RE: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

[Michael G McKay]

Hi! David:

 

Thanks much for getting back to me. I will check it out, and let you know.

 

Regards!

Michael G. McKay BA, ’05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

 

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Appleman
Sent: January 20, 2017 2:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

 

Hi Michael,

  It’s a free download.

David

 

Sent from my iMac

 

 

On 20 Jan 2017, at 8:31 am, Michael McKay  > wrote:

 

Hi! Folks: I am wondering if anybody knows if the voice over clock app has a 
price tag on it, or is it free. Please let me know. I was thinking about 
checking out something like that for myself.

Thanks much in advance.

Michael G. McKay BA,' 05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com  
Sent from my iPhone




On Jan 19, 2017, at 15:50, Appleman  > wrote:

Hi Conrad,
I can definitely recommend Voiceover Clock, which is on the app store. I 
personally have mine set to go off every 15 minutes but on the hour will also 
work just fine.
David


Sent from my iPad




On 20 Jan 2017, at 3:25 am, Conrad Bennett  > wrote:

A good clock that will announce the time on the hour for your iPhone?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Richard, I like that one very much! It certainly takes some strain out and I'm 
going to practice, keep practising, and use it! :-)



Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)


On 20 Jan 2017, at 12:26 am, Richard Turner  wrote:


I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger of 
each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly upward, 
and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor clockwise. When you 
run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your starting point and 
repeat.
HTH,
Richard


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, 
> because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, 
> maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the 
> rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HI all,
>> 
>> 
>> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that 
>> I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>> 
>> 
>> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
>> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
>> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
>> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
>> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
>> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>> 
>> 
>> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
>> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>> 
>> 
>> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
>> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
>> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>> 
>> 
>> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P - UK
>> 
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Mary, I can see what you're saying and agree with you. I was only thinking of 
the second rotor to try to separate things but that would only half solve the 
problem because I do find it quite tiring! :-) Okay, I'm going to keep thinking 
about it and do appreciate all the feedback I've had so far.



Carol P - Sent from my iPhone :)


On 20 Jan 2017, at 4:03 am, Mary Otten  wrote:

Sorry, richard. I guess I missed that. I read the message, the first one, but 
missed the fact that two actual rotors were apparently being suggested. That 
would be a problem and wouldn't solve the twist problem that some people have. 
That gesture is the hardest one for people coming to iOS, just like the right 
angles are the hardest for people coming to android.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I know you were not suggestion two rotors Mary.
> A message in the thread before yours had suggested it.  I think the first one.
> 
> SubMenus would be fine.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
> 
> I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor 
> which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. 
> We now have the actions rotor and the language rotor. Those are not actually 
> rotors. They are menus off of the rotor, and you get to the items by flicking 
> up or down. I am suggesting that we could have more of that sort of thing. It 
> isn't always convenient to operate your phone with two hands, which the two 
> finger method you propose requires.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
>> To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
>> opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger 
>> of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly 
>> upward, and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor 
>> clockwise. When you run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your 
>> starting point and repeat.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
>>> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
>>> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
>>> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
>>> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
>>> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
>>> separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, 
>>> in a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think 
>>> fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 HI all,
 
 
 I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
 that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
 
 
 As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
 system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
 offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
 sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
 
 
 I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
 two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
 rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
 
 
 First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
 what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
 
 
 If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
 your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
 voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
 
 
 I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Carol P - UK
 
 
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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

[Appleman]

Hi Michael,
  It’s a free download.
David

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> On 20 Jan 2017, at 8:31 am, Michael McKay  wrote:
> 
> Hi! Folks: I am wondering if anybody knows if the voice over clock app has a 
> price tag on it, or is it free. Please let me know. I was thinking about 
> checking out something like that for myself.
> 
> Thanks much in advance.
> 
> Michael G. McKay BA,' 05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 15:50, Appleman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Conrad,
>> I can definitely recommend Voiceover Clock, which is on the app store. I 
>> personally have mine set to go off every 15 minutes but on the hour will 
>> also work just fine.
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 20 Jan 2017, at 3:25 am, Conrad Bennett  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A good clock that will announce the time on the hour for your iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Taking videos as a blind person

[Eric Oyen]

it doesn't hurt to have a sighted individual who can help out. Otherwise, it 
can get a bit tricky doing this yourself. I should know, I have tried when it 
comes to producing cycling videos and there is no way for me to get me and the 
bike in picture.

-eric

On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Stephanie wrote:

> I've just been offered the chance to produce a short 5 min video on the basic 
> of piano playing. I have an iphone se, an ipod and an ipad. Is there an easy 
> way to shot a good quality video? I do have a zom mic that conects in to my 
> phone. What I need to know is how to do the video side of things? How do I 
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> Any tips or resources on how to do this would be pch appreciated!
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RE: fixing the way siri says someones name

[Alan Lemly]

Provided you're using iOS 10.x, you can add custom pronunciations. Go to 
Settings, General, Accessibility, Speech, Pronunciations and add the words you 
wish. You type in the word being mispronounced in the phrase field and in the 
substitution field either type in the correct phonetic pronunciation or dictate 
it. I'll warn you that dictating has been spotty at best with iOS 10.2.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Jewel
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Subject: Re: fixing the way siri says someones name

 



Moving on from Siri pronouncing names wrongly, can one give voice-over: in my 
case,  Australian Samantha or is it Karen?:  the same instruction on everyday 
words?  

The everyday word being comic which Samantha/Karen pronounces as "carmic".

The future of the nation will neither rise nor will it fall by it, but I want 
to reeducate whichever of the worthy ladies is filling the role of voice-over 
supremo as to its correct pronunciation.

If she pronounces comic as carmic, which she does, she should pronounce copy as 
carpy which she does not.

 

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Re: fixing the way siri says someones name

[Jewel]

Moving on from Siri pronouncing names wrongly, can one give voice-over: in my 
case,  Australian Samantha or is it Karen?:  the same instruction on everyday 
words?  
The everyday word being comic which Samantha/Karen pronounces as "carmic".
The future of the nation will neither rise nor will it fall by it, but I want 
to reeducate whichever of the worthy ladies is filling the role of voice-over 
supremo as to its correct pronunciation.
If she pronounces comic as carmic, which she does, she should pronounce copy as 
carpy which she does not.

 Jewel

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Taking videos as a blind person

[Stephanie]

I've just been offered the chance to produce a short 5 min video on the basic 
of piano playing. I have an iphone se, an ipod and an ipad. Is there an easy 
way to shot a good quality video? I do have a zom mic that conects in to my 
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Any tips or resources on how to do this would be pch appreciated!
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Mary Otten]

To each their own. I have had three android devices, make that four, I forgot 
about my first Nexus seven. And none of them worked all the time with the angle 
gestures. They just don't for me. Hit and miss. And that's inefficient. And 
judging from the amount of complaints I've heard, I am surely not alone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I don't find the angle gestures in Talk Back to be impossible to use. I don't 
> recall a time when I struggled with them. I know some complain about them, 
> but some iPhone users complain about the roter as well.
> 
> I personally prefer the Talk Back approach. The things I access the most in 
> the roter are the granularity settings, e.g. character, word, line, and in 
> Talk Back, I can change these with a flick up or down. If I want to get to 
> more options, I can bring up a context menu and then just access them out of 
> a list, as Mary describes.
> 
> IMHO, the roter is overused in VoiceOver. Of course, I just may have too many 
> items in it. The fact that VoiceOver may put me somewhere else in the roter, 
> is nice when VoiceOver guesses right, but it can be a pain when it guesses 
> wrong, and I've got to twist my way back to the settings I want to change.
> 
> I agree that the Talk Back gesture set is too limited. Hopefully the Talk 
> Back and Android developers are listening to us and will open it up some in 
> the near future.
> 
>> On 19/01/17 22:01, Mary Otten wrote:
>> The fly in the ointment with the talkback approach is that they have very 
>> few gestures, and many of those they do have are the right angle gestures 
>> which cause a lot of people a lot of problems. It is true that you can 
>> change the jesters, which is nice. But if you are one of those who has 
>> difficulty either performing or remembering those gestures, and which one 
>> goes with what action, it really doesn't do you much good to have all that 
>> customizability. I don't personally have a problem with the rotor, although 
>> I do wish it were shorter. I am careful about what I leave in there. But 
>> depending on where I am and where I need to go, it's quite a few turns or 
>> twists away.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Marie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android 
>>> is doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context 
>>> menu or the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the 
>>> gesture to invoke either of these menus and once there, you use the normal 
>>> swiping that we are all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer 
>>> version of Talk Back and was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to 
>>> invoke these menus was all but impossible to use.
>>> JMT
>>> Marie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
>>> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
>>> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
>>> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
>>> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
>>> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
>>> separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, 
>>> in a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think 
>>> fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 HI all,
 
 
 I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
 that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
 
 
 As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
 system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
 offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
 sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
 
 
 I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
 two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
 rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
 
 
 First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
 what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
 
 
 If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
 your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
 voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
 
 
 I 

Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[regina alvarado]

Mary, I agree with you that more up and down flicks should be used. In fact I 
would like to see a whole new design of the rotor as those with wrist problems 
or finger weakness cannot use the rotor at all. I have a friend who cannot make 
even the beginning of the movement for the rotor, and it makes it very hard for 
her to do a lot of the things I take for granted such as reading by letter or 
word to add or delete something. I can do the motion with my fingers and wrist 
but sometimes I find even I get very tired if I need to use it a lot. 


Reggie and Lex


On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:



I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via 
the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language 
rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to select your 
language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up web elements and 
document navigation type elements, such as word line and character. Of course, 
it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, because you do often 
want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, maybe by headings. But 
nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and 
down flicks could be used.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI all,
> 
> 
> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that 
> I wanted views upon, so here it is!
> 
> 
> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
> 
> 
> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
> 
> 
> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
> 
> 
> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
> 
> 
> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK
> 
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't find the angle gestures in Talk Back to be impossible to use. I 
don't recall a time when I struggled with them. I know some complain 
about them, but some iPhone users complain about the roter as well.


I personally prefer the Talk Back approach. The things I access the most 
in the roter are the granularity settings, e.g. character, word, line, 
and in Talk Back, I can change these with a flick up or down. If I want 
to get to more options, I can bring up a context menu and then just 
access them out of a list, as Mary describes.


IMHO, the roter is overused in VoiceOver. Of course, I just may have too 
many items in it. The fact that VoiceOver may put me somewhere else in 
the roter, is nice when VoiceOver guesses right, but it can be a pain 
when it guesses wrong, and I've got to twist my way back to the settings 
I want to change.


I agree that the Talk Back gesture set is too limited. Hopefully the 
Talk Back and Android developers are listening to us and will open it up 
some in the near future.


On 19/01/17 22:01, Mary Otten wrote:

The fly in the ointment with the talkback approach is that they have very few 
gestures, and many of those they do have are the right angle gestures which 
cause a lot of people a lot of problems. It is true that you can change the 
jesters, which is nice. But if you are one of those who has difficulty either 
performing or remembering those gestures, and which one goes with what action, 
it really doesn't do you much good to have all that customizability. I don't 
personally have a problem with the rotor, although I do wish it were shorter. I 
am careful about what I leave in there. But depending on where I am and where I 
need to go, it's quite a few turns or twists away.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Marie  wrote:

This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is 
doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context menu or 
the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the gesture to invoke 
either of these menus and once there, you use the normal swiping that we are 
all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer version of Talk Back and 
was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus was all but 
impossible to use.
JMT
Marie


-Original Message- From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?



I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via 
the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language 
rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to select your 
language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up web elements and 
document navigation type elements, such as word line and character. Of course, 
it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, because you do often 
want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, maybe by headings. But 
nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and 
down flicks could be used.



On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

HI all,


I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that I 
wanted views upon, so here it is!


As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor system 
has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items offered on 
my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in sometimes needing 
to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.


I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two so 
that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor setting 
(to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.


First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, what 
do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?


If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give your 
ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of voices to 
tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.


I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.


Thanks.


Carol P - UK


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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Mary Otten]

Sorry, richard. I guess I missed that. I read the message, the first one, but 
missed the fact that two actual rotors were apparently being suggested. That 
would be a problem and wouldn't solve the twist problem that some people have. 
That gesture is the hardest one for people coming to iOS, just like the right 
angles are the hardest for people coming to android.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I know you were not suggestion two rotors Mary.
> A message in the thread before yours had suggested it.  I think the first one.
> 
> SubMenus would be fine.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
> 
> I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor 
> which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. 
> We now have the actions rotor and the language rotor. Those are not actually 
> rotors. They are menus off of the rotor, and you get to the items by flicking 
> up or down. I am suggesting that we could have more of that sort of thing. It 
> isn't always convenient to operate your phone with two hands, which the two 
> finger method you propose requires.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
>> To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
>> opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger 
>> of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly 
>> upward, and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor 
>> clockwise. When you run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your 
>> starting point and repeat.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
>>> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
>>> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
>>> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
>>> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
>>> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
>>> separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, 
>>> in a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think 
>>> fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 HI all,
 
 
 I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
 that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
 
 
 As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
 system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
 offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
 sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
 
 
 I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
 two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
 rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
 
 
 First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
 what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
 
 
 If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
 your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
 voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
 
 
 I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Carol P - UK
 
 
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Mary Otten]

The fly in the ointment with the talkback approach is that they have very few 
gestures, and many of those they do have are the right angle gestures which 
cause a lot of people a lot of problems. It is true that you can change the 
jesters, which is nice. But if you are one of those who has difficulty either 
performing or remembering those gestures, and which one goes with what action, 
it really doesn't do you much good to have all that customizability. I don't 
personally have a problem with the rotor, although I do wish it were shorter. I 
am careful about what I leave in there. But depending on where I am and where I 
need to go, it's quite a few turns or twists away. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is 
> doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context menu or 
> the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the gesture to 
> invoke either of these menus and once there, you use the normal swiping that 
> we are all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer version of Talk 
> Back and was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus 
> was all but impossible to use.
> JMT
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
> 
> 
> 
> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, 
> because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, 
> maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the 
> rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HI all,
>> 
>> 
>> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that 
>> I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>> 
>> 
>> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
>> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
>> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
>> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
>> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
>> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>> 
>> 
>> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
>> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>> 
>> 
>> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
>> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
>> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>> 
>> 
>> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P - UK
>> 
>> 
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RE: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Cris Ali]

I do not have a problem with the rotor the way it is.  I personally find it 
easy to switch between words letters headings etc.  This is perhaps because I 
do not have that many items included in the rotor.  The one I use the most is 
headings and characters and volume.
Cheers,
Cris 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is 
doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context menu or 
the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the gesture to invoke 
either of these menus and once there, you use the normal swiping that we are 
all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer version of Talk Back and 
was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus was all but 
impossible to use.
JMT
Marie


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?



I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in 
a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer 
twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> HI all,
>
>
> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
> that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>
>
> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, 
> etc.
>
>
> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
> two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
> rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>
>
> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>
>
> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>
>
> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Carol P - UK
>
>
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Marie]

This is one of the few places where I think that Talk Back on the Android is 
doing a better job. Instead of the rotor there is the Global context menu or 
the Local context menu. Talk Back will now let you change the gesture to 
invoke either of these menus and once there, you use the normal swiping that 
we are all accustomed to. I got to try this out with a newer version of Talk 
Back and was quite impressed. In the past the gesture to invoke these menus 
was all but impossible to use.

JMT
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?



I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in 
a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer 
twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.



On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


HI all,


I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
that I wanted views upon, so here it is!



As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, 
etc.



I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.



First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?



If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.



I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.


Thanks.


Carol P - UK


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RE: Need Help with Spelling Out Words When Using VoiceDream Reader

[Alan Lemly]

Pam,

I think the best way to accomplish your goal is to pause the TTS voice speaking 
in Voice Dream right when you hear the term you need spelled. Place your finger 
in the middle of the screen which should put you in text selection mode. Do the 
rotor twist gesture until you hear words and single finger swipe down until you 
hear VoiceOver speak the word you want spelled. Do a single finger swipe up to 
move just before that word and engage the rotor until you hear characters and 
then single finger swipe down until the word is spelled.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:42 PM
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Subject: Need Help with Spelling Out Words When Using VoiceDream Reader

All,

I am using VoiceDream Reader to read a technical manual from BookShare, and 
there are times when I need to hear the spelling of a word character by 
character.

I am somewhat of a new user to VoiceDream, and I cannot seem to figure out the 
easiest way to accomplish this.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Pam

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Re: blocking phone calls

[Christopher Chaltain]

You don't need to add a number to your contact list before blocking 
them. Give the following a try:

1) Find the number you want to block in your recents list.
2) Double tap on the more options button.
3) If you swipe down through the list of options on this page, you won't 
find the block this caller button. Instead, do the following:
4) Touch the tabs on the bottom of the screen or swipe right until you 
get to them.
5) Now start swiping left, and just after you leave the row of tabs 
across the bottom, you find the text "block this caller."

6) Double tap on that text.
7) Double tap on the block this caller button on the next dialog and 
you're done.


On 19/01/17 15:23, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Hi Vicki, as I stated before you need to add them to your contacts 1st
in order to find the block button. If you have Artie done this, and you
still can't find it please let me know off list with the way that I can
reach you so that we can work with this together. I would like to help
you get this done.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Vicki > wrote:

I find the calss in my recent list, but never find a block button
under more info. I will check again.



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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: blocking phone calls

Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts,
and then simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there
is a call that is recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you
will have to simply use D method of adding them to your contacts, and
then going to settings/phone, and then finding the contact that you
have added to your phone and then blocking them that way.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki > wrote:

I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from
numbers not in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this,
and if I go into phone settings and try to add new to the block
list, it simply brings up my contact list.

All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam
numbers which I never used to get until the last three weeks or so.

Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my
contact list?

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: Need Help with Spelling Out Words When Using VoiceDream Reader

[Richard Turner]

Unfortunately, navigating by characters is not an option within Voice Dream 
Reader, but if you pause the reading in time or even navigate back a sentence, 
you can slide your finger down the screen and find the line where the word 
occurs and use the standard VoiceOver gestures to get to the word and spell it 
out.

I hope that helps,
Richard


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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 2:42 PM
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Subject: Need Help with Spelling Out Words When Using VoiceDream Reader

All,

I am using VoiceDream Reader to read a technical manual from BookShare, and 
there are times when I need to hear the spelling of a word character by 
character.

I am somewhat of a new user to VoiceDream, and I cannot seem to figure out the 
easiest way to accomplish this.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Pam

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RE: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Richard Turner]

I know you were not suggestion two rotors Mary.
A message in the thread before yours had suggested it.  I think the first one.

SubMenus would be fine.

Richard


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Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor 
which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. 
We now have the actions rotor and the language rotor. Those are not actually 
rotors. They are menus off of the rotor, and you get to the items by flicking 
up or down. I am suggesting that we could have more of that sort of thing. It 
isn't always convenient to operate your phone with two hands, which the two 
finger method you propose requires.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
> To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
> opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger 
> of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly 
> upward, and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor 
> clockwise. When you run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your 
> starting point and repeat.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
>> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
>> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
>> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
>> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
>> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
>> separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in 
>> a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer 
>> twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
>>> that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
>>> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
>>> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
>>> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
>>> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
>>> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
>>> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
>>> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
>>> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P - UK
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Michael Feir]

Remember that you can remove and re-order options on the rotor. I have the
majority of options added to my rotor. However, I've customised the order
of options so that I don't have to turn the rotor a great deal to get to
what I need in most circumstances. I've also removed options which I simply
wasn't using. Personally, I wouldn't mind having some sort of multi-rotor
selection but I think some people would find it harder remembering which
options were on which rotor. The way things are now, you'll eventually get
to what you need if you keep turning the rotor.

One thing I definitely support is making certain that any critical options
aren't exclusively acesivle via the rotor. I'm glad you can now change
typing mode inside the settings app rather than strictly through the rotor.
The typing mode deeply effects user experience and I used to run into cases
where beginners who couldn't master the rotor found it very difficult to do
much with their devices once they acidentally trapped themselves in a
typing mode which was hard for them.
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 7:26 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

>
>
> I think having two rotors would be worse for most.
>
> To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them
> in opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one
> finger of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one
> slowly upward, and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor
> clockwise. When you run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your
> starting point and repeat.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is
> accessed via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job
> with the language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and
> down to select your language. Maybe they could do something like that
> splitting up web elements and document navigation type elements, such as
> word line and character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an
> artificial separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on
> the web or, in a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I
> do think fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be
> used.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <
> viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> HI all,
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around
> that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor
> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items
> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in
> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having
> two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the
> rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and,
> secondly, what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could
> give your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number
> of voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Thanks.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Carol P - UK
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Mary Otten]

I wasn't suggesting two rotors. I was suggesting submenus off of the rotor 
which would lessen the number of rotor twists you have to do to get the item. 
We now have the actions rotor and the language rotor. Those are not actually 
rotors. They are menus off of the rotor, and you get to the items by flicking 
up or down. I am suggesting that we could have more of that sort of thing. It 
isn't always convenient to operate your phone with two hands, which the two 
finger method you propose requires.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
> To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
> opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger 
> of each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly 
> upward, and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor 
> clockwise. When you run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your 
> starting point and repeat.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
>> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
>> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
>> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
>> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
>> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial 
>> separation, because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in 
>> a document, maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer 
>> twists of the rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
>>> that I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
>>> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
>>> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
>>> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
>>> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
>>> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
>>> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
>>> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
>>> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P - UK
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Richard Turner]

I think having two rotors would be worse for most. 
To save on wrist strain, try using one finger on each hand and slide them in 
opposite directions, but parallel with each other. So, start with one finger of 
each hand in about the middle of the screen, move the left one slowly upward, 
and the right one slowly downward, that will turn the rotor clockwise. When you 
run out of room, just put the two fingers back at your starting point and 
repeat.
HTH,
Richard


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed 
> via the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the 
> language rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to 
> select your language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up 
> web elements and document navigation type elements, such as word line and 
> character. Of course, it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, 
> because you do often want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, 
> maybe by headings. But nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the 
> rotor and Moore up and down flicks could be used.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HI all,
>> 
>> 
>> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that 
>> I wanted views upon, so here it is!
>> 
>> 
>> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
>> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
>> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
>> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
>> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
>> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
>> 
>> 
>> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
>> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
>> 
>> 
>> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
>> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
>> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
>> 
>> 
>> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P - UK
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Re: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Mary Otten]

 I do think it would be a good idea if the top level menu which is accessed via 
the rotor could be made shorter. I think they did a good job with the language 
rotor, pick the language setting and then flick up and down to select your 
language. Maybe they could do something like that splitting up web elements and 
document navigation type elements, such as word line and character. Of course, 
it can be argued that that is an artificial separation, because you do often 
want to navigate by words on the web or, in a document, maybe by headings. But 
nothing is perfect, and I do think fewer twists of the rotor and Moore up and 
down flicks could be used.


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:00 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI all,
> 
> 
> I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that 
> I wanted views upon, so here it is!
> 
> 
> As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
> system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the items 
> offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist strain in 
> sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on web pages, etc.
> 
> 
> I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having two 
> so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the rotor 
> setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.
> 
> 
> First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, secondly, 
> what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?
> 
> 
> If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could give 
> your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a number of 
> voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.
> 
> 
> I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Carol P - UK
> 
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RE: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Hello you are definitely not alone. I notice that there are times when I'm 
trying to activate the roter and nothing happens. Then there are other times 
when the slightest hand gesture causes me to quickly zip by the options 
available on the roter. I'm not sure what the fix would be.
Thanks 

-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 6:00 PM
To: VI Phone Users 
Subject: WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

HI all,


I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around that I 
wanted views upon, so here it is!


As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the 
items offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist 
strain in sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on 
web pages, etc.


I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.


First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, 
secondly, what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?


If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could 
give your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a 
number of voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.


I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.


Thanks.


Carol P - UK


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WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

HI all,


I've not written for a good while but have had something nagging around 
that I wanted views upon, so here it is!



As our i devices have grown in features, so I have found that the rotor 
system has become rather more of an irksome task. I have most of the 
items offered on my rotor and have noticed a certain amount of wrist 
strain in sometimes needing to turn it several times in succession on 
web pages, etc.



I am wondering if this rotor needs to be re-constructed, perhaps having 
two so that you can divide the rotor into better sections and change the 
rotor setting (to 1 or 2) via a designated keystroke.



First, am I the only one who finds this a little cumbersome and, 
secondly, what do you think to the kind of idea I'd like to suggest?



If indeed people think they'd like to see a change, perhaps you could 
give your ideas a whirl here also and then we can all speak with a 
number of voices to tell Apple what we think we'd like/need.



I look forward to receiving some feedback on this issue.


Thanks.


Carol P - UK


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Re: Fwd: Starting up a new email list, need help!

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Sandy,


I've been convinced by many that Groups IO is the way to go and I'll try 
to join your list. I'm dead keen to hear about your Thermo whatever ot is!



Carol P


Hope you get it set up soon.


On 17/01/2017 13:36, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:


sent from the dark side of the moon

Begin forwarded message:


From: Sandratomkins 
Date: 17 January 2017 at 13:32:13 GMT
To: irelandvipn...@lists.ie
Subject: Starting up a new email list, need help!

Hallo Lovely People!

A friend, from Australia, a fellow dogless guide dog owner, and myself wish 
to start off an email list, like this one, but for VIPs in the Kitchen. We are 
thinking to focus on techniques/devices/technology/apps and general shared 
experience. Encouraging podcast type contributions as well. hoefully, it would 
be international, but with English as the shared language, just for ease of 
communication.

Now, I see, from Google, that it looks easy enough to set up a new group, 
is Google the easiest one? Can people, who don't have gmail accounts access 
such a group? Or, should I be looking at free lists?

In short (she always says that!) All advice very welcome, as, indeed, are 
all or any of you who might want to join such a group As there are only two 
of us right now!! I am foing marvelous things with my Thermomix machine, others 
have slow cookers, one pot cookers and others perform perfectly well manually, 
so, what is your thing? You might be a King/Queen on the kitchen, or flustered 
by Marmite on toast! No matter, all will be most welcome!!

Sandy

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Need Help with Spelling Out Words When Using VoiceDream Reader

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

All,

I am using VoiceDream Reader to read a technical manual from BookShare, and 
there are times when I need to hear the spelling of a word character by 
character.

I am somewhat of a new user to VoiceDream, and I cannot seem to figure out the 
easiest way to accomplish this.

Can anyone help?

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Re: blocking phone calls

[Joseph Hudson]

Okay, sounds good. If you run into any trouble. Reach out to me directly via 
phone at the following phone number. 254-300-7667

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Vicki  wrote:
> 
> I will give it a try and let you know if it doesn't work. Thank you.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Joseph Hudson 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: blocking phone calls
>> 
>> Hi Vicki, as I stated before you need to add them to your contacts 1st in 
>> order to find the block button. If you have Artie done this, and you still 
>> can't find it please let me know off list with the way that I can reach you 
>> so that we can work with this together. I would like to help you get this 
>> done.
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Vicki >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find the calss in my recent list, but never find a block button under 
>>> more info. I will check again.
>>>  
>>>  
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 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:17 PM
 Subject: Re: blocking phone calls
 
 Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts, and 
 then simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there is a call 
 that is recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you will have to 
 simply use D method of adding them to your contacts, and then going to 
 settings/phone, and then finding the contact that you have added to your 
 phone and then blocking them that way.
 
> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki  > wrote:
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> not in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go 
> into phone settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply 
> brings up my contact list.
>  
> All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers 
> which I never used to get until the last three weeks or so.
>  
> Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact 
> list?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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Re: blocking phone calls

[Vicki]

I will give it a try and let you know if it doesn't work. Thank you.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:23 PM
  Subject: Re: blocking phone calls


  Hi Vicki, as I stated before you need to add them to your contacts 1st in 
order to find the block button. If you have Artie done this, and you still 
can't find it please let me know off list with the way that I can reach you so 
that we can work with this together. I would like to help you get this done.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Vicki  wrote:


I find the calss in my recent list, but never find a block button under 
more info. I will check again.


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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: blocking phone calls


  Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts, and 
then simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there is a call that 
is recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you will have to simply use D 
method of adding them to your contacts, and then going to settings/phone, and 
then finding the contact that you have added to your phone and then blocking 
them that way.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki  wrote:


I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from 
numbers not in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go 
into phone settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply brings up 
my contact list.

All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers 
which I never used to get until the last three weeks or so.

Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact 
list?

Thanks.

Vicki



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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

[Michael McKay]

Hi! Folks: I am wondering if anybody knows if the voice over clock app has a 
price tag on it, or is it free. Please let me know. I was thinking about 
checking out something like that for myself.

Thanks much in advance.

Michael G. McKay BA,' 05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 15:50, Appleman  wrote:
> 
> Hi Conrad,
> I can definitely recommend Voiceover Clock, which is on the app store. I 
> personally have mine set to go off every 15 minutes but on the hour will also 
> work just fine.
> David
> 
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> Sent from my iPad
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Re: blocking phone calls

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Vicki, as I stated before you need to add them to your contacts 1st in order 
to find the block button. If you have Artie done this, and you still can't find 
it please let me know off list with the way that I can reach you so that we can 
work with this together. I would like to help you get this done.

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Vicki  wrote:
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> I find the calss in my recent list, but never find a block button under more 
> info. I will check again.
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Joseph Hudson 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: blocking phone calls
>> 
>> Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts, and 
>> then simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there is a call 
>> that is recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you will have to 
>> simply use D method of adding them to your contacts, and then going to 
>> settings/phone, and then finding the contact that you have added to your 
>> phone and then blocking them that way.
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from numbers 
>>> not in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go into 
>>> phone settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply brings up my 
>>> contact list.
>>>  
>>> All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers which 
>>> I never used to get until the last three weeks or so.
>>>  
>>> Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact 
>>> list?
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
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Re: blocking phone calls

[Vicki]

I find the calss in my recent list, but never find a block button under more 
info. I will check again.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Joseph Hudson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: blocking phone calls


  Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts, and then 
simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there is a call that is 
recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you will have to simply use D 
method of adding them to your contacts, and then going to settings/phone, and 
then finding the contact that you have added to your phone and then blocking 
them that way.


On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki  wrote:


I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from numbers 
not in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go into 
phone settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply brings up my 
contact list.

All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers which 
I never used to get until the last three weeks or so.

Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact 
list?

Thanks.

Vicki



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Re: blocking phone calls

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Vicki, unfortunately not. You will have an them to your contacts, and then 
simply go to more info, Andy hit the block button if there is a call that is 
recent from them in your history. If not, Dane you will have to simply use D 
method of adding them to your contacts, and then going to settings/phone, and 
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them that way.

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Vicki  wrote:
> 
> I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from numbers not 
> in my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go into phone 
> settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply brings up my contact 
> list.
>  
> All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers which I 
> never used to get until the last three weeks or so.
>  
> Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact list?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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blocking phone calls

[Vicki]

I have a 5C IPhone and I am wanting to block incoming calls from numbers not in 
my contact list. I can't find an option to do this, and if I go into phone 
settings and try to add new to the block list, it simply brings up my contact 
list.

All of these numbers are from surveys and other types of spam numbers which I 
never used to get until the last three weeks or so.

Is there a way to block these numbers without adding them to my contact list?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: convert youtube to music files

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandy,

It converted my 1 hour and 43 minute movie in seconds and as Alan said, there 
was a message that it was done, but I could not find the Download button until 
I looked with the Jaws cursor. I was using Internet Explorer and with the Jaws 
cursor I was able to click on it, the standard "Open" or "Save" thing popped up 
and I clicked save, then the 51 Mb file took maybe 6 or 8 seconds to download 
and it then was in my Downloads folder. When I pressed enter on it iTunes 
opened up and it started playing.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: convert youtube to music files

Sandy,

After you've pasted in the url of the YouTube video from which you want to 
extract the audio, you execute a convert to mp3 button and wait a few seconds. 
You should receive a message that converting your YouTube video to mp3 worked 
and there will be a download button near the top of the screen that you execute 
to start the download. It is right above a convert another video button.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2017, at 11:58 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
Hi,

I have used this for TV programmes, such as Blackaddar! And it worked well! 
But, for longer programmes, such as Montalbano, at least an hour long, it gets 
stuck at 79 percent and thats it! Blackadder is only 30 minutes.

They say it is good for listening to off line, however, I can't find how to 
save or store the files, does anyone know?

Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 19 Jan 2017, at 16:32, Alan Lemly 
> wrote:
Gianni,

I'm curious which website you tried for extracting mp3 from youtube. I've 
posted about the Ytmp3.com  site for doing this but admit it 
seems geared for extracting music. I'm not sure whether it has a limitation in 
terms of youtube video size but it is very easy to use. Here's the website:

https://ytmp3.com/

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gianni
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: convert youtube to music files

Hi,
What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube videos 
from 20 minutes.


Gianni

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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

[Appleman]

Hi Conrad,
I can definitely recommend Voiceover Clock, which is on the app store. I 
personally have mine set to go off every 15 minutes but on the hour will also 
work just fine.
David


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Re: convert youtube to music files

[Alan Lemly]

Sandy, 

After you've pasted in the url of the YouTube video from which you want to 
extract the audio, you execute a convert to mp3 button and wait a few seconds. 
You should receive a message that converting your YouTube video to mp3 worked 
and there will be a download button near the top of the screen that you execute 
to start the download. It is right above a convert another video button. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2017, at 11:58 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have used this for TV programmes, such as Blackaddar! And it worked 
> well! But, for longer programmes, such as Montalbano, at least an hour long, 
> it gets stuck at 79 percent and thats it! Blackadder is only 30 minutes.
> 
> They say it is good for listening to off line, however, I can't find how 
> to save or store the files, does anyone know?
> 
> Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 19 Jan 2017, at 16:32, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Gianni,
>>  
>> I'm curious which website you tried for extracting mp3 from youtube. I've 
>> posted about the Ytmp3.com  site for doing this but admit it seems geared 
>> for extracting music. I'm not sure whether it has a limitation in terms of 
>> youtube video size but it is very easy to use. Here's the website:
>>  
>> https://ytmp3.com/
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gianni
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 4:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: convert youtube to music files
>>  
>> Hi,
>> What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
>> iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube 
>> videos from 20 minutes.
>> 
>> 
>> Gianni
>>  
>> Skype: giannijuve
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

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VOClock or VoiceOver Clock might just suit your needs.
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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

[Jennie Facer]

There is also an app called chime which does the same thing. It just announces 
the time on the hour, or you can have it announce it on the quarter hour and 
half hour also.

Have a great day!

Jenn

Sent from Jennie Facer's iPad Pro!

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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

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Thanks so much that will greatly help a friend of mine who is learning how to 
use his iPhone.

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On Jan 19, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Devin Prater 
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Timely works fine for me.

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Re: Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

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Timely works fine for me.

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Re: convert youtube to music files

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I have used this for TV programmes, such as Blackaddar! And it worked well! 
But, for longer programmes, such as Montalbano, at least an hour long, it gets 
stuck at 79 percent and thats it! Blackadder is only 30 minutes.

They say it is good for listening to off line, however, I can't find how to 
save or store the files, does anyone know?

Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 19 Jan 2017, at 16:32, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Gianni,
>  
> I'm curious which website you tried for extracting mp3 from youtube. I've 
> posted about the Ytmp3.com  site for doing this but admit it seems geared for 
> extracting music. I'm not sure whether it has a limitation in terms of 
> youtube video size but it is very easy to use. Here's the website:
>  
> https://ytmp3.com/
>  
> Alan Lemly
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> Hi,
> What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
> iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube videos 
> from 20 minutes.
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RE: convert youtube to music files

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

This YTMP3.com website does seem to work well, I tried it with an old german 
movie I found on Youtube, it is 1 hour and 43 minutes and it got converted in 
seconds. When I clicked the Download button which I seem to find only with the 
Jaws cursor it downloaded, the file was about 51 Mb and it plays in iTunes and 
does show the length correctly as 1 hour and 43 minutes.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Gianni,

I'm curious which website you tried for extracting mp3 from youtube. I've 
posted about the Ytmp3.com  site for doing this but admit it seems geared for 
extracting music. I'm not sure whether it has a limitation in terms of youtube 
video size but it is very easy to use. Here's the website:

https://ytmp3.com/

Alan Lemly

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Hi,
What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube videos 
from 20 minutes.
Gianni

Skype: giannijuve
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labeling with voice over

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Hi all,

I would like to know if voice over is there a way to export/import labels
for controls on apps where they are no label in the correct way?

I  have a pixel, using android 7.1.1, and yes in android is possible to
import/export labels for those apps with the wrong labeling. Is there a way
to do it with an iPhone using the last release of IOs?

I am using an iPhone 7.

Thanks for all,

 

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RE: convert youtube to music files

[Alan Lemly]

Gianni,

 

I'm curious which website you tried for extracting mp3 from youtube. I've 
posted about the Ytmp3.com  site for doing this but admit it seems geared for 
extracting music. I'm not sure whether it has a limitation in terms of youtube 
video size but it is very easy to use. Here's the website:

 

https://ytmp3.com/

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Gianni
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: convert youtube to music files

 

Hi,

What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube videos 
from 20 minutes.



Gianni

 

Skype: giannijuve

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Talking clock for on the hour announcement.

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A good clock that will announce the time on the hour for your iPhone?

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to Sieghard, thanks

[regina alvarado]

I realize I shouldn't send thank-you messages. However, thank you Sieghard for 
letting me know about what might be stopping my fingerprint from working. I 
have some split fingertips. Working on taking care of it: I tried a finger that 
was not split, and it if continuing to work. I knew cold and wet could affect 
it. However, didn't think about healing fingertips. Makes sense to me, though.



Reggie and Lex

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RE: Bluetooth Headphone Recommendation

[Rizzino, Bonnie]

My husband has had a great deal of success when working with clients who have 
hearing aids with the Aftershokz bone conduction  headphones.

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Hi Eric,

I have hearing aids that rest on top of my ears, between the ear and skull. 
Would these headphones work with them in, do you think? Also, do they let you 
rewind and fast forward the iPhone?

Thanks,
Anna



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> These have been around four years or so, and I wasn't sure they were being 
> sold by anyone any longer. However, I just got notice from Amazon that they 
> are selling the Plantronics backbeat 903 stereo bluetooth headphones for $29. 
> They are actually selling through a third-party, but it does not state they 
> are used or refurbished, etc.
>
> These are not quite earbuds. They have a cable that goes behind your head, 
> and the earpiece lays between your ear and your skll with and arm holding the 
> bud going around the front of your ear and in. They do not go into the ear 
> canal, enabling you to hear outside sound. The buds themselves extend and 
> swivel so that you get the best fit. The sound is actually quite good, and 
> the microphone isn't bad, either. When they came out, these were priced at 
> the high end, but then there weren't too many $300 earbuds. I think they are 
> about as good as it gets for "running – around "earbuds. They hang around 
> your neck and easily can be slipped into one or both ears. If just for that 
> purpose or for use with navigation apps, these are very good.
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Why aren't all of my notifications showing up in notifications in settings

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all.
I'm trying to turn on dice world notifications. When I go into settings 
notifications, it's not showing up? 
I go into dice world in the settings app and all that's there is "cellular 
data" on.
Any suggesttions?
Thanks.
Jen



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convert youtube to music files

[Gianni]

Hi,
What is the best app to convert youtube to a music file (best quality) on 
iPhone or Mac? I tried using a website but there is a limit of youtube videos 
from 20 minutes.


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