date:20170915

You can still use you're Lightning cable to charge your phone. I have a 
charging pad for my S7, but I never take it anywhere. If I'm traveling, 
I just use a charging pad if one is provided or I use the micro USB 
cable I bring to charge my non-iPhone devices.



I'm not sure what I paid for my charging pad. It was part of an 
acccessories kit I got with my S7 with a pretty generous discount. I 
can't say if it's worth the money for you or not, but if these charging 
pads start springing up everywhere now that Apple supports them then 
maybe you can take advantage of them in air ports, coffee shops and 
other places.



On 09/15/2017 01:24 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

I guess I'm not as enthusiastic with the wireless charging at least as I 
understand it. I can't argue that placing my device on a charging pad might be 
marginally more convenient than plugging it into a cable but I'm not sure I'm 
willing to pay the price of the charging pad for that convenience. And it seems 
to me that hauling the charging pad around when traveling will be less 
convenient than tossing an extra lightning cable into your bag. I'm also 
curious how well the glass backs of these new iPhones necessitated to support 
wireless charging will hold up compared to the former aluminum metal ones. I 
also expect that case manufacturers will have a challenge designing one that 
protects the back of the iPhone while also supporting wireless charging. But 
I'll freely admit that I'm not as quick to gush about Apple's latest products 
as some on the list seem prone to do.

Alan Lemly

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Alan,

I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, airplanes 
and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I believe the 
Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have fast charging 
technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an hour) I really 
do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an initial 
investment.
Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables. Wireless 
charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging pad is more 
expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for years and years 
to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I can't 
see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin Boost Up 
charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has to be 
plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why this is 
really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your phone to 
charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet.

Alan Lemly

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and at 
home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big 
difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants to 
go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to the 
living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to do is 
put it down on a charging pad this

Re: advanced search not working in outlook for windows

It's still working for me with Outlook 2016, JAWS 18 and Windows 10. You 
might try taking this to a list where it's more on topic and provide 
some more information, such as what versions of Outlook and Windows 
you're using and what screen reader you're running. You should also 
explain more about what happens when you hit control+shift+f.



On 09/15/2017 02:08 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:


Has anyone noticed that the advanced search gotten to by pressing 
ctrl-shift-f isn’t working in outlook for windows?


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T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds

Good. My faith is somewhat restored. Smile.

T-Mobile confirms the new Apple Watch will get LTE speeds
TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog



The Apple Watch Series 3 comes with built-in LTE, but as MacRumors pointed out, 
T-Mobile's add-on $10 wearable plan limits devices to 512kb/s connections. 
Tonight T-Mobile CEO John Legere announced its plan for the Watch will include 
unlimited 4G LTE speeds, saying that "We always listen & act!" That should help 
keep things even among the US carriers for anyone picking up a new iPhone 
and/or wrist-worn accessory.



Original Article: 
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/15/t-mobile-apple-watch-4g-lte-throttle/


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Re: wireless charging

Yes, it's safe.

On 09/15/2017 03:23 PM, TaraPrakash wrote:
Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is
wirelessly charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi Anthony,
You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.
I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter. It plugs
into the lightning port on your phone. The wireless adapter is about
the size of a credit card and sticks to the back of your phone. I
just don’t want you to be disappointed when you get it.
I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built
in to the case.

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.
Take care,
Lois
*From:* Anthony Vece
*Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
*To:* Blind iPhone MailingList
*Subject:* Re: wireless charging
Lois;
Well, what charging pad should I buy?
And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.
Thanks
God Bless
Anthony
Yes, you will need a charging pad. Altogether, both would cost $25
if you get the ones I got.

Take care,
Lois
*From:* Anthony Vece
*Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
*To:* Blind iPhone MailingList
*Subject:* Re: wireless charging
Lois;
Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?
God Bless
Anthony
On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi Sandy,
Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon. It was about $13 US.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
The charging pad was about $11 US. Here is the link to that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60
for a fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.
I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug
and unplug the adapter all the time.

Take care,
Lois
*From:* 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
*Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: wireless charging
Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless
charger adapter?

Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi,
Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research
charging the IPhone wirelessly. I found that you can buy an
adapter that plugs into the lightning port and sticks to the back
of the phone to make your IPhone charge wirelessly.
I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the
adapter into the case. I now have an IPhone that charges
wirelessly. I love it.
By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can
get charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois
*From:*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:*Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:*RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the
benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the
technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does
not exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that
Apple is probably working very hard on getting this to work, but
for now wireless just means that you don’t have to plug in a wire.
As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on
have wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have
your phone charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put
their phone down on a charging pad and then go away and sit down 10
or 20 feet away.
As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you
to do this just as you have always done it which means bring your
Lightning cable and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their
“Airpower” charger as they call it then for people who have an
iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods bringing this instead
makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three devices by
themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this
may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the
Chi wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of
money into it to make it better but accessory makers will also
scramble to bring out a wide variety of devices to compliment it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cris Ali

*Sent:*

Re: wireless charging

If you're talking about a charging pad then yes, you can use a wired
head set while it's sitting on the charging pad.

On 09/15/2017 03:48 PM, Michael Maslo wrote:

Would you be able to use your wired headset if on a a mat?

On Sep 15, 2017 at 15:33, > wrote:

I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on
the pad. If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use
bluetooth headphones.
The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could
wirelessly charge it on a charging pad.

I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.
Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I
know nothing about that. I don’t think it’s happening yet.

Take care,
Lois
*From:* TaraPrakash
*Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: wireless charging
Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is
wirelessly charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi Anthony,
You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.
I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter. It plugs
into the lightning port on your phone. The wireless adapter is
about the size of a credit card and sticks to the back of your
phone. I just don’t want you to be disappointed when you get it.
I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging
built in to the case.

Hi Sandy,
Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon. It was about $13 US.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
The charging pad was about $11 US. Here is the link to that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay
$60 for a fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.
I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug
and unplug the adapter all the time.

Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi,
Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research
charging the IPhone wirelessly. I found that you can buy an
adapter that plugs into the lightning port and sticks to the back
of the phone to make your IPhone charge wirelessly.
I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with
the adapter into the case. I now have an IPhone that charges
wirelessly. I love it.
By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can
get charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois
*From:*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:*Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:*RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the
benefits?

Hi Chris,

Re: wireless charging

I'm not sure about the iPhone, but the S7 supports quick charging on the 
charging pad, and I haven't noticed that it's significantly slower, but 
I assume you're right and that it is slower than a wired connection.



On 09/15/2017 04:21 PM, Chip Orange wrote:


It should not slow it down, but wireless charging is already 
significantly slower than wired charging (according to an article I 
just read).


Chip

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Cris Ali

*Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:37 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: wireless charging

Thanks Louis,

Since you are already using a wireless charger, do you know if using a 
cover case for the phone would slow down or even be an obstacle for 
wireless charging?


Regards,

Cris

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Lois Butterfield

*Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* wireless charging

Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging 
the IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs 
into the lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make 
your IPhone charge wirelessly.


I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  
I love it.


By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.


Take care,

Lois

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the 
technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not 
exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is 
probably working very hard on getting this to work, but for now 
wireless just means that you don’t have to plug in a wire.


As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on 
have wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your 
phone charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their 
phone down on a charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 
feet away.


As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to 
do this just as you have always done it which means bring your 
Lightning cable and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their 
“Airpower” charger as they call it then for people who have an iPhone, 
an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of 
sense since it can charge all three devices by themselves or all three 
at once and of course as time goes by this may even include other 
devices which adopt the standard.


As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into 
it to make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring 
out a wide variety of devices to compliment it.


Best regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cris Ali

*Sent:* Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hello folks,

When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
advantages of wireless charging. My understanding is that one needs to 
place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. 
This is not remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to 
worry about more gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the 
adapter and the wire, we will need to also carry a pad or a stand for 
the wireless charging to work.


I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we 
would not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories. 
However, I am not sure I would like to place my phone on a charging 
pad in a restaurant or café, or in an airport terminal.  Unless the 
wireless charging pad is on my table or on the arm of my chair, I 
would not use it.


Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it 
better to me?


Cheers,

Cris

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Re: wireless charging

Assuming this all works like my S7 does, yes you can use bluetooth with
it. You can also use the speaker option when on a call, so no you don't
have to hold it up to your head. I assume you can do something similar
with Siri, but I can also just call to my phone with OK Google and have
it send a text message, place a call, start playing music and so on, all
from across the room while it's sitting on the charging pad.

On 09/15/2017 04:24 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

Well, you cannot hold it up to your head to talk, but I guess you
could try to use bluetooth (not sure if the signal can make it through
the charging field or not).

Chip

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *TaraPrakash

*Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 4:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: wireless charging

Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is
wirelessly charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield
> wrote:

Hi Anthony,

You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter. It
plugs into the lightning port on your phone. The wireless adapter
is about the size of a credit card and sticks to the back of your
phone. I just don’t want you to be disappointed when you get it.

I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging
built in to the case.

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

Take care,

Lois

*From:*Anthony Vece

*Sent:*Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM

*To:*Blind iPhone MailingList

*Subject:*Re: wireless charging

Lois;

Well, what charging pad should I buy?

And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

Thanks

God Bless

Anthony

Yes, you will need a charging pad. Altogether, both would cost
$25 if you get the ones I got.

Take care,

Lois

*From:*Anthony Vece

*Sent:*Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM

*To:*Blind iPhone MailingList

*Subject:*Re: wireless charging

Lois;

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

God Bless

Anthony

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield
>
wrote:

Hi Sandy,

Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon. It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

The charging pad was about $11 US. Here is the link to that.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to
pay $60 for a fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.

I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to
plug and unplug the adapter all the time.

Take care,

Lois

*From:*'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

*Sent:*Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*Re: wireless charging

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless
charger adapter?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield
>
wrote:

Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to
research charging the IPhone wirelessly. I found that you
can buy an adapter that plugs into the lightning port and
sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge
wirelessly.

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along
with the adapter into the case. I now have an IPhone that
charges wirelessly. I love it.

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and
you can get charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,

Lois

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*RE: How does wireless charging work and what are
the benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently
the technology which charges devices wirelessly from a
distance does not exist.

Re: iPhone 6+

It will require eye contact if you have the attention required option 
set on, which is the default. I think it gets turned off when you enable 
VoiceOver though.



On 09/15/2017 04:35 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

I believe you wrong about not being able to use Face ID ... it doesn't require 
eye contact ... it doesn't look at where your eyes are looking, it makes a 3d 
map of your facial structure (not its visual appearance).

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6+

Well, I am reasonably sure I am one of those people. I say that because when people say 
"look at me", I can certainly face them, but I cannot make iContact in the 
sense that sightedPeople  do. Therefore, I figure I can't do it. And my guess is that 
there are other totally blind people, not to mention those with prosthetic eyes, who also 
can't do it. I think I read that if you have VoiceOver enabled, that look at the phone 
feature is automatically disabled. I might be wrong. God knows memory isn't what it used 
to be. But if that is true, one assumes that Apple figures most voiceover users can't 
look at the phone. We shall see, as you say.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I would really be interested to know ho wmany blind people really are unable as 
in incapable to look at the phone. I guess we'll hear how this works in the 
real world starting in November when these phones are going to be in the hands 
of people like Jonathan Mosen, other Podcasters and of course also some of the 
people on this list.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6+

It's pretty clear that the less secure version of Face ID should work for blind 
people who can't look at the phone. But it seems like a fair amount of the nice 
functionality is gone and the security is Les. How much less? That alone would 
make me not want this phone at this time. Maybe they will solve this problem 
and future. I hope so. I would hate to think we are stuck with a less 
functional less secure means of unlocking The phone, with the only alternative 
being the clunky inefficient passcode method. I wish they had put touch ID into 
the side button of this new phone. Maybe they will do that in the future, 
although I doubt it. Of course a sensor on the side isn't as convenient as a 
sensor on the front. But it beats sacrificing some functionality because you 
can't look at the phone.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I am very sure that next fall all iPhones will get Face Id as Apple really 
seems to think that this is the way forward when it comes to biometric security 
and they obviously spend a great amount of time and money to get this to work. 
Just as with Touch Id and as it was pointed out in one of the articles Face Id 
will surely get perfected, there will probably be a new 3D sensor in a year or 
two which will make it even better.
If your 6 Plus still works well and if you are not on contract any more then 
why not find the cheapest possible plan from one of the MVNO's like Consumer 
Cellular or whatever others have been discussed here and save up to get a new 
phone next year, if you can save up enough to buy a phone outright you can then 
even continue to stay with your low-cost MVNO.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Billy Maynard
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 6+

Hi,

I think this has been talked about before.  I have an iPhone 6+.  how many
verssions of ios will be still supported by the 6+?   Will 11?  like Most
have said about the X I don't see an advantage to a blind person for the X but, 
the 8+ might be a nice upgrade?  I do wonder though will face id become the 
standard of any phones after the x replacing touch id on allthere moddles after 
the x.  Like would it move to the next gen iPad etc and any upcoming phones.  
Thanks for any help.

Billy Maynard,
P.S. I think I heard ios 11 might be supported by 6+ but, I can not recall if 
they said this is the last ios verssion that will be supported.

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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

2017-09-15 Thread Robin Frost

Hi Anna,
Have you worked with how one deals with custom ringtones under the new iTunes? 
I’m curious how one either gets them on or off one’s phone if anyone knows.  I 
haven’t tried yet but do have some tones that I did not get from Apple’s store 
that I use from time to time so was just curious.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Woody Anna Dresner 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:22 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Hi, 

File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.

Best,
Anna

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there seems 
to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, then I 
turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same interface 
it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and album and 
then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in any of the 3 
columns only the songs which apply.
  There are now only 5 media types as follows:
   
   
  Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
  Movies, Control+2 also as before
  TV Shows, Control+3 as before
  Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
  Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
announcement in the future.
  You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
these are now gone.
  I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more accessible 
as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column with genres so 
to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then the second column 
is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what the names here are, 
but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs where all my movies 
appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title and a brief summary of 
the movie.
  When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and then 
again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with episode 
number and title.
  I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it asked 
me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the information 
there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am subscribed to 
using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow up and down 
through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, settings and more, 
it all seems to be fine.
  Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and seem 
accessible.
  I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far as 
the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than before 
especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books sections.
   
  Regards,
  Sieghard
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
   
  For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
  At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for 
me.
   
  Richard
   
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
  To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
   
  From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?
   
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
   
  Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.
   
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
  To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
   
  Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?
   
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
   
  The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a

Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Robin Frost


Hi,
I'm no expert but it would seem to me that if they have fast charging ports 
Apple's USB C to lightning cable would do the trick in that instance.  If 
I'm wrong I'm sure someone else will enlighten both of us (smiles).

Robin

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Subject: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
the new Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge
for fast charging them. All of the ports themselves look like standard
USB ports.

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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Deb Lewis

No, I don't need wireless charging. I just wan tto do the plugged in
quick charge which still requires cables. Apple wants to sell a cable
and an adaptor for this but my question is can I use what I have
rather than buying Apple's. This is different from the charging ad.

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>
> I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
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> quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
> the new Iphones, can I buy an adaptor of some sort to use this charge
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> USB ports.
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Re: Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Maria Reyes

When they come out you'll have to buy a wireless charging pad. But it doesn't 
come out until next year. What you have to do is set your device on the mat and 
it just starts charging

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Deb 
Lewis 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
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Still puzzled about Fast Charging

2017-09-15 Thread Deb Lewis

I have a multi port charger made by Choetech that supposedly has two
fast charging ports. I'm not sure which of the six ports they are or
quite how to tell, they just charge my other things normally. But with
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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

2017-09-15 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi,

File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.

Best,
Anna

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there seems 
> to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, then I 
> turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same 
> interface it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and 
> album and then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in any 
> of the 3 columns only the songs which apply.
> There are now only 5 media types as follows:
>  
>  
> Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
> Movies, Control+2 also as before
> TV Shows, Control+3 as before
> Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
> Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
> think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
> announcement in the future.
> You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
> these are now gone.
> I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more accessible 
> as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column with genres 
> so to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then the second 
> column is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what the names 
> here are, but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs where all 
> my movies appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title and a brief 
> summary of the movie.
> When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
> Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
> together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and then 
> again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with episode 
> number and title.
> I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it asked 
> me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the information 
> there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am subscribed to 
> using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow up and down 
> through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, settings and 
> more, it all seems to be fine.
> Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and seem 
> accessible.
> I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
> I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far as 
> the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than before 
> especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books sections.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>   <>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
> At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for 
> me.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroupscom 
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
> itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
> sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroupscom 
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
> part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a 
> pretty big outcry if Apple did not

How to Save Messages on Your iPhone

2017-09-15 Thread Geoff Stephens

Wired - Friday, September 15, 2017 at 4:08 PM

How to Save Messages on Your iPhone

If you're like most iPhone users, when you upgraded to the newest version of 
iOS, Apple automatically migrated your settings, apps, and text messages. While 
there are benefits to wiping your phone and starting over – c'mon, you don't 
really need all those apps – there's also the possibility that you might lose 
valuable info hidden within your text messages. All those short missives you've 
written are mostly ephemeral, but some of them can be important, especially if 
you need them as proof in a dispute. Even if you just want to save your 
priceless nuggets of wit, you should be able to. Apple – frustratingly – offers 
no easy way to export your texts and iMessages, and it should. Here are the 
best workarounds currently available.

The File Is in the Computer

Apple saves your text messages in its iPhone backups, whether they're saved 
locally on your PC or whether they're part of an iCloud backup – which you 
should have. That's good! Unfortunately, they're not separated out. However, 
you can access them through the filesystem. If you back up locally on an Apple 
machine, you can find the file under Library > Application Support > MobileSync 
> Backup. There should be multiple folders there, each with a different backup 
image of your phone. Each of the folders should have a file named:

3d0d7e5fb2ce288813306e4d4636395e047a3d28.mddata.

Those are your texts, in SQLite database form.

On a Windows machine, you can find that file in 
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming.

Unfortunately, you can't open up that file in a text editor – you'll either 
need a SQLite editor or a special third-party tool. But at the very least, if 
you copy that file and keep it somewhere safe, you've got an archive of your 
text messages. Here's an online service where you can upload that file and 
download the content and metadata in either PDF or CSV form. Of course, it's 
totally up to you whether you want to give some old website access to your 
private messages.

There's an App for That

Many different programs can not only decipher the SQLite file Apple uses to 
store SMS messages, but can also simplify finding and archiving them. PhoneView 
is commonly recommended for Mac and CopyTrans seems to be the application of 
choice among Windows users. There's a variety of similar utilities. Most of 
them cost between $15 and $30, and there doesn't seem to be a free, open source 
option that's "good enough" to have popular appeal.

I personally favor iExplorer, which we've covered in the past. It costs money, 
but the demo version will allow you to read through the .mddata file and 
copy/paste the text. If you want to export the messages into a PDF or text 
file, you'll have to pay.

Quick n' Dirty

If you're using the texts to actually settle a dispute, you'll probably want to 
just take screenshots. (That's holding down the sleep/wake and home buttons at 
the same time.) Scroll down to the most recent messages in the conversation in 
question. Screenshot. Scroll up. Repeat about a thousand times. Sure, it will 
take time, but it's the only solution you can do completely on your iPhone 
without a computer, and it's most likely what a lawyer will want to see. Don't 
forget – if you want timestamps for each message, swipe from the right side of 
the screen to expose the delivery times. You can also select multiple messages 
by tapping and holding a message bubbles to select more than one, and 
forwarding those to your email address. However, you'll lose all the metadata, 
and as the NSA's shown us, sometimes the metadata is more important than the 
content of the messages itself.

I, Message

To this point, we've been treating SMS and iMessage as the same protocol, 
because the aforementioned methods cover both. But if you sync iMessage on your 
Mac and your iPhone, your computer should get the same iMessages your phone 
does, and save them in the Messages chat logs. You can print a complete 
conversation in the Messages app, or find the chat logs in Library > Messages > 
Archive. Of course, this requires that the person you're corresponding with 
also uses Apple products.

Score One for Android

This is one of the many circumstances where the openness of the Android 
ecosystem results in increased functionality on the device. Because Android 
allows a wide selection of non-system apps to send and receive SMS messages, 
there are a variety of easy archival apps that run on your phone itself. SMS 
Backup & Restore is simple, well-reviewed, and most importantly, free. Start 
there.

This post was updated on September 15, 2017. It was originally published on 
November 5, 2013 by Kif Leswing.

https://www.wired.com/2013/11/backup-sms-iphone



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Re: question about Voice Dream Reader

2017-09-15 Thread Donna

Hi

Sorry, I don't use iTunes. Im a new computer & JAWS user since losing my 
vision. I would assume that everything within an app would get backed up when 
using iTunes. I use iCloud & am unsure if iCloud Drive is the same as iCloud. 

Sorry I wasn't much help. Hopefully someone else will chime in who has the 
answers to your questions. 

Donna
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do you know.
> 
> Does this add the VoiceDream Library files to the iTunes backup when backing 
> up as an encrypted backup, and or an ICloud backup, and the files are 
> restored when the backup is restored,
> 
> Or,
> 
> Does this backup the files to one's iCloud drive, for access to any file at 
> any time?
> 
> Thanks in advance, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donna
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: question about Voice Dream Reader
> 
> Hi
> 
> On your current device, open voicedream, tap on settings. The settings tab is 
> next to last from the right. Select to sync to the cloud. When you install 
> all your apps on to your new device your books & other documents in 
> voicedream will be transferred also. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> I will be getting a new iPhone soon, and just got the iOS without the Eye 
>> book from Mosen Consulting and have some other files loaded into Voice Dream 
>> Reader. I am just realizing though that those books or files won’t show up 
>> on Voice Dream Reader once I get the new device. So for Mosen Consulting 
>> purchases specifically, does anyone know how to get files back into Voice 
>> Dream on a new device? Thanks.
>> 
>> Juliette
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Apple Watch Series 3 Limited to 3G-Like Speeds on T-Mobile

Rip off.

Apple Watch Series 3 Limited to 3G-Like Speeds on T-Mobile
MacRumors: Mac News and Rumors  /  Juli Clover

Apple's new Apple Watch Series 3 models support LTE and UMTS connectivity, but 
on T-Mobile, LTE connection speeds won't be available. The carrier is limiting 
the Apple Watch to a maximum speed of 512kb/s, which is more like a 3G 
connection than an LTE connection. 

The speed limitation is noted in T-Mobile's fine print, which says the maximum 
wearables speed is 512kb/s. It's also noted on the pre-order page when adding 
an Apple Watch Series 3 to your cart. 

 
At issue is T-Mobile's ONE plan, which limits both tethering and all wearable 
devices to 512kb/s. While most users are unlikely to be streaming video or 
doing other tasks that require high connectivity speeds on the Apple Watch, the 
Apple Watch is also unlikely to be a data hog, so it's unclear why T-Mobile has 
this limitation in place. 

A T-Mobile representative told MacRumors reader Tony that its "High Speed Data 
with paired DIGITS" plan would provide 4G LTE data. DIGITS is priced at $25 per 
month without autopay, and $20 per month with Autopay. 

No other major carrier in the United States, including Sprint, Verizon, or AT 
appears to be throttling Apple Watch speeds with their standard unlimited 
plans. 

All four of the carriers are charging the same $10 per month fee to add an 
Apple Watch to an existing iPhone plan, and each one is offering a limited time 
promotion that waives monthly fees for the first three months. 

The LTE Apple Watch Series 3 models became available for pre-order early this 
morning, with new devices slated to arrive on Friday, September 22, the 
official launch date for the device.

Related Roundups: Apple Watch, watchOS 3, watchOS 4 
Tag: T-Mobile 
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RE: question about Voice Dream Reader

2017-09-15 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Hi,

Do you know.

Does this add the VoiceDream Library files to the iTunes backup when backing up 
as an encrypted backup, and or an ICloud backup, and the files are restored 
when the backup is restored,

Or,

Does this backup the files to one's iCloud drive, for access to any file at any 
time?

Thanks in advance, Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question about Voice Dream Reader

Hi

On your current device, open voicedream, tap on settings. The settings tab is 
next to last from the right. Select to sync to the cloud. When you install all 
your apps on to your new device your books & other documents in voicedream will 
be transferred also. 

Donna
> 
> I will be getting a new iPhone soon, and just got the iOS without the Eye 
> book from Mosen Consulting and have some other files loaded into Voice Dream 
> Reader. I am just realizing though that those books or files won’t show up on 
> Voice Dream Reader once I get the new device. So for Mosen Consulting 
> purchases specifically, does anyone know how to get files back into Voice 
> Dream on a new device? Thanks.
> 
> Juliette
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Re: Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?

2017-09-15 Thread jaan ali

Yes it'll fit on the iPhone eight but I am not too sure will it  be wirelessly 
charge or not and I think if you use the smart battery case with the iPhone 
eight you will get more battery than iPhone 8+ or iPhone X

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sadam 
Ahmed 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:23:34 PM
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Subject: Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?

Hi all,

Will my current smart battery case fit the standard iPhone 8 ?

Thanks,

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Re: wireless charging

Yes, basically, that’s it.

Take care,
Lois

From: TaraPrakash 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

It's hilarious that's what I thought

So wirelessly means the way Apple Watch is charged. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

  I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on the 
pad.  If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use bluetooth 
headphones. 

  The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could 
wirelessly charge it on a charging pad.

  I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.

  Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I know 
nothing about that.  I don’t think it’s happening yet.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: TaraPrakash 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

  The whole idea seems intriguing to me

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi Anthony,

You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into 
the lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
the case.

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois;

Well, what charging pad should I buy?
And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

Thanks
God Bless
Anthony
Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
get the ones I got.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois; 

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

God Bless
Anthony

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

  Hi Sandy,

  Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

  The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

  I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
unplug the adapter all the time.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois,
  You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
adapter?
  Thanks, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging 
the IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love 
it.

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the 
technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. 
Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably 
working very hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that 
you don’t have to plug in a wire.
As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and

Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread TaraPrakash

It's hilarious that's what I thought

So wirelessly means the way Apple Watch is charged. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on the 
> pad.  If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use bluetooth 
> headphones.
>  
> The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could 
> wirelessly charge it on a charging pad.
>  
> I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.
>  
> Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I know 
> nothing about that.  I don’t think it’s happening yet.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: TaraPrakash
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
> charging?
>  
> The whole idea seems intriguing to me
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anthony,
>>  
>> You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.
>>  
>> I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into 
>> the lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of 
>> a credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you 
>> to be disappointed when you get it.
>>  
>> I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
>> the case.
>>  
>> If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
>> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
>> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>>  
>> Lois;
>>  
>> Well, what charging pad should I buy?
>> And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.
>>  
>> Thanks
>> God Bless
>> Anthony
>> Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
>> get the ones I got.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
>> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
>> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>>  
>> Lois;
>>  
>> Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?
>>  
>> God Bless
>> Anthony
>>  
>>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>  
>>> Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.
>>>  
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>>  
>>> The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>>  It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
>>> fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway. 
>>>  
>>> I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
>>> unplug the adapter all the time.
>>>  
>>> Take care,
>>> Lois
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>>>  
>>> Lois,
>>> You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
>>> adapter?
>>> Thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
 IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into 
 the lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
 charge wirelessly.
  
 I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
 adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I 
 love it.
  
 By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
 charging pads for just over $10.
  
 Take care,
 Lois
  
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
  
 Hi Chris,
  
 I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
 which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
 exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working 
 very hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that 
 you don’t have to plug in a wire.
 As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
 wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
 charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on 
 a charging

RE: some audio book questions

You're right Sieghard, you cannot stream Audible books (thought you could, but 
I just tried and it just starts a download of the book).

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

How do you stream an Audible book, I have never seen this option yet in the 
Augible app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: some audio book questions

No Jed, if you want to use your phone you must purchase the books using the web 
site, and then you can listen using the Audible app (which will download them 
to your phone or stream them as you like).  I download them so they will work 
even if I am out of cell range.

Chip


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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: some audio book questions

Have you found the audio books to be accessible through amazon?  So how does it 
work, you download them and they just come to your phone?
I take it you do it through the amazon app?

On 9/13/17, Jeff Bishop  wrote:
> Audible was purchased by Amazon so buying audio books through them is 
> really buying from Amazon/Audible. You will need the iOS Audible app 
> or the Android version of that. The Audible Desktop player still works as 
> well on Windows.
>
> Another site for MP3 audio books is:
>
> https://www.downpour.com/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: some audio book questions
>
> Hey guys,
>
> OK, so i'm looking to get some audio books.  My question is where is 
> the best place to get them?  Are things like amazon audio books 
> accessible?  If so what's the best app to play them on?  If i were to 
> buy an audio book, is amazon a good place, and what would you recommend for 
> apps?
>
> Cheers,
> Jed
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RE: thermostat

Hi Mary,

I had power for several days before the internet was restored ... my point was 
that anytime your internet is out for any reason, these apps which control 
devices for us may not work for us.

Chip



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thermostat

So when your Internet was out, wasn't your power also out? And if so, how was 
the thermostat working and what would it be controlling, since presumably the 
appliances it was controlling, your furnace or AC, need power. I agree the 
thermostat should be accessible, but if the power is out, there's nothing to 
control.
Mary


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> On Sep 13, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> So do I, but when my internet was out for several days during the recent 
> hurricane, the Nest app doesn't work to control the thermostat, and the 
> thermostat isn't accessible (especially so when it's constantly displaying 
> error messages about not being able to contact the main Nest servers).
> 
> Nest should really put a little work into making the thermostat accessible 
> directly; those of us who care should write to them and explain that the app 
> isn't a sufficient work-around.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Tom Rash
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: thermostat
> 
> I use the Nest thermostat that works with the iPhone.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> david gross
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thermostat
> 
> 
> my taljing thermostat died.
> is there a thermostat that can be used with a Iphone app?
> 
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RE: iPhone 6+

I believe you wrong about not being able to use Face ID ... it doesn't require 
eye contact ... it doesn't look at where your eyes are looking, it makes a 3d 
map of your facial structure (not its visual appearance).

Hth,

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 6+

Well, I am reasonably sure I am one of those people. I say that because when 
people say "look at me", I can certainly face them, but I cannot make iContact 
in the sense that sightedPeople  do. Therefore, I figure I can't do it. And 
my guess is that there are other totally blind people, not to mention those 
with prosthetic eyes, who also can't do it. I think I read that if you have 
VoiceOver enabled, that look at the phone feature is automatically disabled. I 
might be wrong. God knows memory isn't what it used to be. But if that is true, 
one assumes that Apple figures most voiceover users can't look at the phone. We 
shall see, as you say.

Mary


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> On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I would really be interested to know ho wmany blind people really are unable 
> as in incapable to look at the phone. I guess we'll hear how this works in 
> the real world starting in November when these phones are going to be in the 
> hands of people like Jonathan Mosen, other Podcasters and of course also some 
> of the people on this list.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 6+
> 
> It's pretty clear that the less secure version of Face ID should work for 
> blind people who can't look at the phone. But it seems like a fair amount of 
> the nice functionality is gone and the security is Les. How much less? That 
> alone would make me not want this phone at this time. Maybe they will solve 
> this problem and future. I hope so. I would hate to think we are stuck with a 
> less functional less secure means of unlocking The phone, with the only 
> alternative being the clunky inefficient passcode method. I wish they had put 
> touch ID into the side button of this new phone. Maybe they will do that in 
> the future, although I doubt it. Of course a sensor on the side isn't as 
> convenient as a sensor on the front. But it beats sacrificing some 
> functionality because you can't look at the phone.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I am very sure that next fall all iPhones will get Face Id as Apple really 
>> seems to think that this is the way forward when it comes to biometric 
>> security and they obviously spend a great amount of time and money to get 
>> this to work. Just as with Touch Id and as it was pointed out in one of the 
>> articles Face Id will surely get perfected, there will probably be a new 3D 
>> sensor in a year or two which will make it even better.
>> If your 6 Plus still works well and if you are not on contract any more then 
>> why not find the cheapest possible plan from one of the MVNO's like Consumer 
>> Cellular or whatever others have been discussed here and save up to get a 
>> new phone next year, if you can save up enough to buy a phone outright you 
>> can then even continue to stay with your low-cost MVNO.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Billy Maynard
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 6+
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I think this has been talked about before.  I have an iPhone 6+.  how many 
>> verssions of ios will be still supported by the 6+?   Will 11?  like Most 
>> have said about the X I don't see an advantage to a blind person for the X 
>> but, the 8+ might be a nice upgrade?  I do wonder though will face id become 
>> the standard of any phones after the x replacing touch id on allthere 
>> moddles after the x.  Like would it move to the next gen iPad etc and any 
>> upcoming phones.  Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Billy Maynard,
>> P.S. I think I heard ios 11 might be supported by 6+ but, I can not recall 
>> if they said this is the last ios verssion that will be supported. 
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Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

2017-09-15 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi Russ,

On the Mac, accessing the parts that are still there is about as easy as it was 
before; it's just that some parts of the app are missing.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? My 
> question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
> touch using iTunes 12.7
> 
> Hi Russ,
> 
> Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list of 
> content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file sharing 
>> to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I stillbe be 
>> able to do this with itunes 12.7?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: M. Taylor
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch 
>> using iTunes 12.7
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
>> following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.
>> 
>> The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
>> manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes
>> 
>> You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS device.
>> 
>> With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
>> manually syncing specific items to your device.
>> 
>> If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage music,
>> but you can still manage videos using the steps below.
>> 
>> Manually add items from iTunes
>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>> 3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
>> library.
>> 4.Look in the left sidebar for your device, then drag the content to your
>> iPhone, iPad, or iPod.
>> 
>> If you're using an iPhone, you can add music or videos only from a single
>> iTunes Library.
>> 
>> If you're using an iPad or iPod, you can add music from multiple iTunes
>> Libraries, but videos from only one iTunes Library.
>> 
>> If you can't manually add or remove content from your device
>> 
>> Check to make sure that the "Manually manage music and videos" option is
>> turned on:
>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>> 3.Locate and click on your device.
>> 
>> 4.In the left sidebar, click Summary.
>> 5.Scroll to the Options section.
>> 6.Click the box next to "Manually manage music and videos."
>> 7.Click Apply.
>> 
>> You might see a message that your device is synced with another library.
>> This means that you've used a different computer to sync your device in the
>> past, and iTunes can't sync without first erasing and replacing all iTunes
>> content on your device.
>> 
>> Manually add items from your computer
>> 
>> If you have media on your computer that you can't redownload from the App
>> Store or iTunes Store directly on your iOS device, such as custom ringtones
>> or iOS apps, you can drag and drop the media from your computer to your iOS
>> device using iTunes.
>> 1.Connect your device to your computer.
>> 2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
>> 3.On your computer, find the item you want to add to your device. If you're
>> looking for Apps, Tones, or Books (for Windows) that previously appeared in
>> your iTunes library, you can find them in your iTunes media folder.
>> 4.Drag the item from your computer to your iOS device in the left sidebar of
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> Published Date: Sep 12, 2017
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201593
>> 
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Re: wireless charging

I can say that bluetooth works just fine while charging for the same distance.

Take care,
Lois

From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: wireless charging

Well, you cannot hold it up to your head to talk, but I guess you could try to 
use bluetooth (not sure if the signal can make it through the charging field or 
not).

Chip

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

  Hi Anthony,

  You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

  I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into the 
lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

  I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
the case.

  If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

  Take care,

  Lois

  From: Anthony Vece 

  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM

  To: Blind iPhone MailingList 

  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois;

  Well, what charging pad should I buy?

  And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

  Thanks

  God Bless

  Anthony

  Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
get the ones I got.

  Take care,

  Lois

  From: Anthony Vece 

  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM

  To: Blind iPhone MailingList 

  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois; 

  Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

  God Bless

  Anthony

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi Sandy,

Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
unplug the adapter all the time.

Take care,

Lois

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
adapter?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

  Hi,

  Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging 
the IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

  I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love 
it.

  By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

  Take care,

  Lois

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

  Hi Chris,

  I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
have to plug in a wire.

  As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.

  As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and 
plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call 
it then for people who have an

RE: wireless charging

Well, you cannot hold it up to your head to talk, but I guess you could try to 
use bluetooth (not sure if the signal can make it through the charging field or 
not).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wireless charging

 

Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

 

The whole idea seems intriguing to me



Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Hi Anthony,

 

You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

 

I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into the 
lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

 

I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to the 
case.

 

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: Anthony Vece   

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM

To: Blind iPhone MailingList   

Subject: Re: wireless charging

 

Lois;

 

Well, what charging pad should I buy?

And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

 

Thanks

God Bless

Anthony

Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you get 
the ones I got.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: Anthony Vece   

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM

To: Blind iPhone MailingList   

Subject: Re: wireless charging

 

Lois; 

 

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

 

God Bless

Anthony

 

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

 

Hi Sandy,

 

Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8
 

 =1

 

The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8
 

 
=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8
 

 =1 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 
for a fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

 

I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
the adapter all the time.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone   

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: wireless charging

 

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
Thanks, Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Hi,

 

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

 

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.

 

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get charging 
pads for just over $10.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

 

Hi Chris,

 

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology which 
charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it exists in 
labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very hard on 
getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t have to 
plug in a wire.

As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.

As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do this 
just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and plug 
it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call it 
then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods bringing 
this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all

Smart battery case will it fit on the new iPhone 8 ?

2017-09-15 Thread Sadam Ahmed


Hi all,


Will my current smart battery case fit the standard iPhone 8 ?


Thanks,


Sadam Ahmed


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RE: wireless charging

It should not slow it down, but wireless charging is already significantly 
slower than wired charging (according to an article I just read).

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: wireless charging

 

Thanks Louis,

Since you are already using a wireless charger, do you know if using a cover 
case for the phone would slow down or even be an obstacle for wireless charging?

Regards,

Cris

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lois Butterfield
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wireless charging

 

Hi,

 

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

 

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.

 

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get charging 
pads for just over $10.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

 

Hi Chris,

 

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology which 
charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it exists in 
labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very hard on 
getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t have to 
plug in a wire.

As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.

As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do this 
just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and plug 
it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call it 
then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods bringing 
this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three devices by 
themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this may even 
include other devices which adopt the standard.

As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi wireless 
charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to make it 
better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide variety of 
devices to compliment it.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

 

Hello folks,

When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the advantages 
of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to place the phone on 
a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This is not remotely 
wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about more gadgets to 
carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the wire, we will need to 
also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging to work.  

I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would not 
have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am not sure 
I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or café, or in 
an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my table or on the 
arm of my chair, I would not use it.

Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it better 
to me?

Cheers,

Cris

 

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Re: wireless charging

That would depend on which phone you have.  If you have a headphone jack, 
IPhone 6, then you could still use it.  If you have just the lightning port, 
then no with this adapter.

Take care,
Lois

From: Michael Maslo 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:48 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Would you be able to use your wired headset if on a  a mat?

  On Sep 15, 2017 at 15:33,  wrote:

  I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on the 
pad.  If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use bluetooth 
headphones. 

  The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could 
wirelessly charge it on a charging pad.

  I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.

  Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I know 
nothing about that.  I don’t think it’s happening yet.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: TaraPrakash 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

  The whole idea seems intriguing to me

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi Anthony,

You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into 
the lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
the case.

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois;

Well, what charging pad should I buy?
And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

Thanks
God Bless
Anthony
Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
get the ones I got.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois; 

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

God Bless
Anthony

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

  Hi Sandy,

  Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

  The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

  I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
unplug the adapter all the time.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois,
  You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
adapter?
  Thanks, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging 
the IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love 
it.

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the 
technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. 
Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably 
working very hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that 
you don’t have to plug in a wire.
As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone

Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread Michael Maslo

  
  

 Would you be able to use your wired headset if on aa mat?
  

  
  

  
  
>   
> On Sep 15, 2017 at 15:33,   (mailto:lbutterfield...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   
> I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on the 
> pad.If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use bluetooth 
> headphones.
>   
>   
>   
> The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could 
> wirelessly charge it on a charging pad.
>   
>   
>   
> I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.
>   
>   
>   
> Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I know 
> nothing about that.I don’t think it’s happening yet.
>   
>   
>   
> Take care,
>   
> Lois
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
> From:   TaraPrakash (mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com)
>   
> Sent:  Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
>   
> To:   viphone@googlegroups.com (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
>   
> Subject:  Re: wireless charging
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
> Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
> charging?
>   
>   
>   
> The whole idea seems intriguing to me
>   
>
>   
>  Sent from my iPhone   
>
>  On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield   (mailto:lbutterfield...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
>   
>   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Hi Anthony,
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.It plugs into 
> > the lightning port on your phone.The wireless adapter is about the size 
> > of a credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.I just don’t want 
> > you to be disappointed when you get it.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
> > the case.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Take care,
> >   
> > Lois
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > From:   Anthony Vece (mailto:ajv...@gmail.com)
> >   
> > Sent:  Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
> >   
> > To:   Blind iPhone MailingList (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
> >   
> > Subject:  Re: wireless charging
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Lois;
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Well, what charging pad should I buy?
> >   
> > And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Thanks
> >   
> > God Bless
> >   
> > Anthony
> >   
> > Yes, you will need a charging pad.Altogether, both would cost $25 if 
> > you get the ones I got.
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > Take care,
> >   
> > Lois
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > From:   Anthony Vece (mailto:ajv...@gmail.com)
> >   
> > Sent:  Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
> >   
> > To:   Blind iPhone MailingList (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
> >   
> > Subject:  Re: wireless charging
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >  Lois;  
> >   
> >   
> > Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > God Bless
> >   
> > Anthony
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   
> > >   
> > > On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield   > > (mailto:lbutterfield...@gmail.com)>  wrote:
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > Hi Sandy,
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.It was about $13 US.
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >  
> > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > The charging pad was about $11 US.Here is the link to that.
> > >   
> > >  
> > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> > >   It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 
> > > for a fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
> > > unplug the adapter all the time.
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > Take care,
> > >   
> > > Lois
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > From:   'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
> > >   
> > > Sent:  Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
> > >   
> > > To:   viphone@googlegroups.com (mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com)
> > >   
> > > Subject:  Re: wireless charging
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > > Lois,
> > >  You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
> > > adapter?
> > >  Thanks, Sandy   
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >  sent from the dark side of the moon   
> > >
> > >  On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield   > >

Re: wireless charging

I guess you could if you wanted to put your head down to the phone on the pad.  
If you want to talk while it’s charging, you would use bluetooth headphones. 

The case I was talking about just made your phone so that you could wirelessly 
charge it on a charging pad.

I’m afraid I haven’t explained it well and have confused you a bit.

Now some people are talking about wireless charging in the air, and I know 
nothing about that.  I don’t think it’s happening yet.

Take care,
Lois

From: TaraPrakash 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  wrote:


  Hi Anthony,

  You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

  I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into the 
lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

  I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
the case.

  If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: Anthony Vece 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
  To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois;

  Well, what charging pad should I buy?
  And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

  Thanks
  God Bless
  Anthony
  Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
get the ones I got.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: Anthony Vece 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
  To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois; 

  Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

  God Bless
  Anthony

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

Hi Sandy,

Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
unplug the adapter all the time.

Take care,
Lois

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
adapter?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:


  Hi,

  Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging 
the IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

  I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the 
adapter into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love 
it.

  By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

  Hi Chris,


  I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
have to plug in a wire.
  As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
  As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and 
plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call 
it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods 
bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three 
devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this 
may even

Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread TaraPrakash

Is it safe to keep using the phone like talking when the phone is wirelessly 
charging?

The whole idea seems intriguing to me


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Lois Butterfield  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony,
>  
> You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.
>  
> I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into the 
> lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
> credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to 
> be disappointed when you get it.
>  
> I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to 
> the case.
>  
> If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Lois;
>  
> Well, what charging pad should I buy?
> And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.
>  
> Thanks
> God Bless
> Anthony
> Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you 
> get the ones I got.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: Blind iPhone MailingList
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Lois;
>  
> Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?
>  
> God Bless
> Anthony
>  
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Sandy,
>>  
>> Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.
>>  
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>  
>> The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that.
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>  It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
>> fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway. 
>>  
>> I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and 
>> unplug the adapter all the time.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>>  
>> Lois,
>> You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger 
>> adapter?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
>>> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
>>> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
>>> charge wirelessly.
>>>  
>>> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
>>> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>>>  
>>> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
>>> charging pads for just over $10.
>>>  
>>> Take care,
>>> Lois
>>>  
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>>  
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>  
>>> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
>>> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
>>> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working 
>>> very hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you 
>>> don’t have to plug in a wire.
>>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
>>> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
>>> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on 
>>> a charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
>>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
>>> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
>>> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as 
>>> they call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe 
>>> Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all 
>>> three devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes 
>>> by this may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
>>> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
>>> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it 
>>> to make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a 
>>> wide variety of devices to compliment it.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On

Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎

Hi Anthony,

You can only have one phone on the pad at a time.

I also want to make sure you understand about the adapter.  It plugs into the 
lightning port on your phone.  The wireless adapter is about the size of a 
credit card and sticks to the back of your phone.  I just don’t want you to be 
disappointed when you get it.

I understand you can also buy a case that has wireless charging built in to the 
case.

If you do order the stuff, I hope you are pleased.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:44 PM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois;

Well, what charging pad should I buy?
And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

Thanks
God Bless
Anthony
Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you get 
the ones I got.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois; 

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

God Bless
Anthony

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

  Hi Sandy,

  Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

  The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 
  
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

  I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
the adapter all the time.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois,
  You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
  Thanks, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:


Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Chris,


I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
have to plug in a wire.
As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and 
plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call 
it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods 
bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three 
devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this 
may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
variety of devices to compliment it.




Best regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?


Hello folks,
When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to place 
the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This is not 
remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about more 
gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the

question about Voice Dream Reader

2017-09-15 Thread jmswiler

I will be getting a new iPhone soon, and just got the iOS without the Eye book 
from Mosen Consulting and have some other files loaded into Voice Dream Reader. 
I am just realizing though that those books or files won’t show up on Voice 
Dream Reader once I get the new device. So for Mosen Consulting purchases 
specifically, does anyone know how to get files back into Voice Dream on a new 
device? Thanks.

Juliette

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Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread Anthony Vece

Lois;

Well, what charging pad should I buy?
And, how many devices can you.put on the pad at any one time.

Thanks
God Bless
Anthony
Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you get 
the ones I got.
 
Take care,
Lois
 
From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging
 
Lois;
 
Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?
 
God Bless
Anthony
 
> On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  > wrote:
>  
> Hi Sandy,
>  
> Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  
> 
>  
> The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>  
> 
>  It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
> fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway. 
>  
> I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
> the adapter all the time.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: wireless charging
>  
> Lois,
> You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
>> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
>> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone 
>> charge wirelessly.
>>  
>> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
>> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>>  
>> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
>> charging pads for just over $10.
>>  
>> Take care,
>> Lois
>>  
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hi Chris,
>>  
>> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
>> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
>> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
>> hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
>> have to plug in a wire.
>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
>> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
>> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a 
>> charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
>> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
>> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as 
>> they call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe 
>> Airpods bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all 
>> three devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes 
>> by this may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
>> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
>> wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
>> make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
>> variety of devices to compliment it.
>>  
>>  
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Cris Ali
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>  
>> Hello folks,
>> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
>> advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to 
>> place the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This 
>> is not remotely wireless

Re: Problems with Latest Version of iTunes

2017-09-15 Thread Judy Holloway

Hi. I finally got the internet radio working, but I had to use NVDA. 

Thanks.

Judy



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:19 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi Judy,

The radio tuner is still called Internet Radio, but it's now in your list of 
playlists, near the top. I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 1:10 AM, '鍾 智明' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> My problem is, I cannot play my music 
> 
> Ming
> Skype: chungchiming9950
> 
> 
>> Judy Holloway  於 2017年9月15日 下午12:56 寫道：
>> 
>> I upgraded to the latest version of iTunes, and I am totally lost. Could 
>> someone please help me find where the radio tuner is? I am totally baffled 
>> by this version of iTunes. 
>> 
>> I would appreciate any help with this, with step-by-step instructions.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> 
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advanced search not working in outlook for windows

2017-09-15 Thread Larry Lumpkin

Has anyone noticed that the advanced search gotten to by pressing
ctrl-shift-f isn't working in outlook for windows?

 

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RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

2017-09-15 Thread Alan Lemly

I guess I'm not as enthusiastic with the wireless charging at least as I 
understand it. I can't argue that placing my device on a charging pad might be 
marginally more convenient than plugging it into a cable but I'm not sure I'm 
willing to pay the price of the charging pad for that convenience. And it seems 
to me that hauling the charging pad around when traveling will be less 
convenient than tossing an extra lightning cable into your bag. I'm also 
curious how well the glass backs of these new iPhones necessitated to support 
wireless charging will hold up compared to the former aluminum metal ones. I 
also expect that case manufacturers will have a challenge designing one that 
protects the back of the iPhone while also supporting wireless charging. But 
I'll freely admit that I'm not as quick to gush about Apple's latest products 
as some on the list seem prone to do.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Alan,

I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, airplanes 
and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I believe the 
Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have fast charging 
technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an hour) I really 
do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an initial 
investment.
Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables. Wireless 
charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging pad is more 
expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for years and years 
to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I can't 
see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin Boost Up 
charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has to be 
plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why this is 
really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your phone to 
charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and at 
home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big 
difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants to 
go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to the 
living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to do is 
put it down on a charging pad this is a totally different story. I for one have 
preferred places where I put down my phone in these places so if I had a 
charging pad there my phone would always be charged and I rarely would have to 
worry about running out.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
lenron brown
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

When I can charge wirelessly from a distance that's when it will really matter 
to me, still a cool thing to have though so I am not knocking it.

On 9/14/17,

Re: Braille Display command trouble

Hi! Yes, for public beta testers it's the final version, the beta testers and 
developer beta get it earlier from everyone. I have the public beta and i think 
that it's very buggy. I have menny problems and delay with siri voices and 
VoiceOver generally.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-15 בספט׳ 2017, בשעה 18:17, ‏‏Diane ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> I'm not sure what those letters mean.  All I know is that my friend sent me 
> the link for the bata of IOS 11 so that I could get all the little updates 
> between the full update of 10 and 11.  Since next Tuesday is the full update 
> of 11, this is the final bata in my phone.  I don't know any other technical 
> thing about it.
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> 
> To: "Viphone" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble
> 
> 
> You say "final update beta". Does this mean the GM? Just curious as that's 
> what I'm running now on all my devices.
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2017, at 12:12, Diane  wrote:
>> 
>> I am on the final bata update right now.  Expecting to download from Apple 
>> IOS 11 next week.
>>> - Original Message - From: Melissa Tucker
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble
>>> 
>>> I think i have an answer, but what version of ios are you using?
>>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Diane  wrote:
>>> 
>>>I think this is the group I should ask 
>>> this question of, so here goes.
>>> 
>>> I have a folder of song lyrics in dropbox in access note.  Each song is an 
>>> individual file.  My church naturally has an overhead which everyone else 
>>> can read.  I got the lyrics for the song so that I could follow along and 
>>> sing with them.  By the way, this happens even if the folder is just in the 
>>> dropbox.  I tried it within access note and regular dropbox. I find my song 
>>> folder and enter on it, which is the the dot 8 key.  I have the focus blue 
>>> 40 display.  I go in a song and I can start reading the words.  I was told 
>>> to hit chord b to go back.  What I want to do is to go back out of the song 
>>> back to the song list.  That way I could go through my song list and find 
>>> the next song that is put up.  I hit chord b and it goes completely out of 
>>> the folder to the beginning of dropbox things.  As I swaid before, I tried 
>>> it in access note and regular dropbox and it did the same thing.  I flicked 
>>> throught the list of folders to the right one.  It will go inside the song 
>>> folder but not further.  It will not go in the individual song to read the 
>>> words.  I have to close the app and try again.  My question is this.  Is 
>>> there a voice-over command for the Braille display to go back out of the 
>>> song words to my list of songs? I know that dot 8 enters on things.  I 
>>> wanted to explain it very clearly to get the right answer.  I hope someone 
>>> can help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks much.  God bless.
>>> 
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iOS 11 without the eye has just been released

Jonathan Moes and has just released his new book iOS 11 without the eye. It 
might be of particular interest to folks who have not participated in the beta 
program, but even those folks might learn a thing or two. I have used these 
books in the past, and found them to be quite helpful, as I like written 
documentation better than podcast. I'm not going to make any money off of this 
post of course. Just passing along the info. The book is $19.95 and is 
instantly available now, prior to the release of iOS 11 next Tuesday. You can 
go to Moes and consulting.org to pick up that book if you are interested.
Mary


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Re: wireless charging

Yes, you will need a charging pad.  Altogether, both would cost $25 if you get 
the ones I got.

Take care,
Lois

From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois; 

Do you also need to buy the wireless charging pad?

God Bless
Anthony

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:21 AM, Lois Butterfield  
wrote:

  Hi Sandy,

  Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

  The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

  I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
the adapter all the time.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: wireless charging

  Lois,
  You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
  Thanks, Sandy

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:

Hi,

Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.

By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

Take care,
Lois

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Chris,

I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
have to plug in a wire.
As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and 
plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call 
it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods 
bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three 
devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this 
may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi 
wireless charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to 
make it better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide 
variety of devices to compliment it.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hello folks,
When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to place 
the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This is not 
remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about more 
gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the wire, we 
will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging to work.  
I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am not 
sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or café, 
or in an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my table or 
on the arm of my chair, I would not use it.
Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it 
better to me?
Cheers,
Cris

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Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

2017-09-15 Thread lenron brown

Well apple needs to sell the fast charger with the IPhone, it's nuts
that they don't.

On 9/15/17, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> I wonder if some unscrupulous person will figure out a way of getting
> information out of your phone through this clever method of charging?
>
> Just a thought.
>
>
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a
>> wall outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply
>> put your phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room
>> and it's charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you
>> put your phone down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk
>> away, then you first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a
>> nuisance. As I said before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a
>> great deal of the time when it's lying on the table means you most of the
>> time walk away with a full or almost full battery and of course most
>> batteries nowadays don't care about getting charge just a bit all the
>> time. Then of course there is the fact that as this technology gets to be
>> purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, airplanes and so on you have lots
>> of opportunities to charge your phone. I believe the Belkin mat delivers
>> 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have fast charging technology (they
>> charge from completely empty to 50% in half an hour) I really do see how
>> this can be a very nice feature even if there is an initial investment.
>> Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special
>> Podcast about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a
>> fairly regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of
>> them, but I have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables.
>> Wireless charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the
>> charging pad is more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this
>> thing for years and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for
>> itself.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>
>> Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I
>> can't see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The
>> Belkin Boost Up charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing
>> something has to be plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time
>> understanding why this is really all that more convenient than just
>> plugging a cable into your phone to charge it but I admit I've not fully
>> researched the technology yet.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>
>> I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office
>> and at home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a
>> big difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who
>> wants to go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you
>> maybe go to the living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If
>> all you have to do is put it down on a charging pad this is a totally
>> different story. I for one have preferred places where I put down my phone
>> in these places so if I had a charging pad there my phone would always be
>> charged and I rarely would have to worry about running out.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of lenron brown
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:11 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>>
>> When I can charge wirelessly from a distance that's when it will really
>> matter to me, still a cool thing to have though so I am not knocking it.
>>
>> On 9/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> I don t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the
>>> technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not
>>> exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is
>>> probably working very hard on getting this to work, but for now
>>> wireless just means that you don t have to plug in a wire.
>>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on
>>> have wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your
>>> phone charging right next to you, obviously

Re: Apple Watch Series 3 and AirPods

Thanks for the clarification about the Bluetooth connection and the watch. My 
experience with Bluetooth recently and a braille display, which I have 
connected to two devices, although not at the same time of course, was that 
switching didn't always happen. I guess that ear phones are different. Or maybe 
it's because one of my devices is a Kindle tablet. As for the iOS thing, with 
the series 3, your phone has to be running iOS 11. That's with the Apple Watch 
specs say. So if you have an iPhone and you don't want to upgrade immediately, 
if you do get a Watch, you're going to have a problem. In other words, be 
prepared to upgrade to iOS 11 if you're ordering a series 3.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Yes, there is a bluetooth connection from the iPhone to the watch and I don't 
> think that changes for the series 3 watch.
> I heard on a Podcast that you are not able to make unlimited calls on your 
> watch, I believe it is limited to one hour a day for calls.
> There are more restrictions, I guess $10 a month is not getting you unlimited 
> use and if you did want to use your watch to make many calls or have long 
> talks you would then still need it to go through your phone. 
> I don't quite understand what you are asking or saying about needing iOS 11 
> for the watch. Maybe you do for the series 3, but as iOS 11 comes out next 
> Tuesday and even if you get the watch on day 1 it won't be until next Friday 
> so there shouldn't be a problem.
> Also, as far as using bluetooth headsets or earpieces is concerned, the 
> bluetooth connection between the iPhone and the Watch does not mean you can't 
> use a bluetooth headset. I have my Plantronics Voyager Edge paired with both 
> my phone and my series 2 watch and it works flawlessly, if I use the phone I 
> hear the phone, as soon as I do something on the watch and the Edge is turned 
> on it switches over and I hear what I am doing on the watch. Once I'm done 
> and the watch goes to sleep it goes back to the iPhone without me ever doing 
> anything special. I would hope this works equally well and seamlessly with 
> the Airpods and in fact it really should work even better and faster  since 
> they are supposed to be optimised for Apple devices.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:19 AM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Watch Series 3 and AirPods
> 
> I have the idea that with watches prior to the series 3, there was a 
> Bluetooth connection between the phone and the watch. With the advent of the 
> LTE, I wonder if this would free up that connection, so that you could use it 
> with AirPods for other Bluetooth headset when you're out and you don't have 
> your phone. Also, maybe this was already known to everyone, but I learned by 
> looking at the Apple Watch specs that you have to have your phone running iOS 
> 11. So for folks who wanted to wait a little while before upgrading, you 
> can't do that if you also want the series 3. Kind of a bummer.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

2017-09-15 Thread Anthony Vece

I wonder if some unscrupulous person will figure out a way of getting 
information out of your phone through this clever method of charging?

Just a thought.


> On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
> outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
> phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
> charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
> down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
> first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
> before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
> when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
> or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
> getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
> as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, 
> airplanes and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I 
> believe the Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have 
> fast charging technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an 
> hour) I really do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an 
> initial investment.
> Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
> about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
> regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
> have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables. Wireless 
> charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging pad is 
> more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for years 
> and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I 
> can't see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin 
> Boost Up charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has 
> to be plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why 
> this is really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your 
> phone to charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and 
> at home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big 
> difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants 
> to go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to 
> the living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to 
> do is put it down on a charging pad this is a totally different story. I for 
> one have preferred places where I put down my phone in these places so if I 
> had a charging pad there my phone would always be charged and I rarely would 
> have to worry about running out.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> lenron brown
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> When I can charge wirelessly from a distance that's when it will really 
> matter to me, still a cool thing to have though so I am not knocking it.
> 
> On 9/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I don t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the 
>> technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not 
>> exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is 
>> probably working very hard on getting this to work, but for now 
>> wireless just means that you don t have to plug in a wire.
>> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on 
>> have wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your 
>> phone charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their 
>> phone down on a charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet 
>> away.
>> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to

RE: Apple Watch Series 3 and AirPods

Hi Mary,

Yes, there is a bluetooth connection from the iPhone to the watch and I don't 
think that changes for the series 3 watch.
I heard on a Podcast that you are not able to make unlimited calls on your 
watch, I believe it is limited to one hour a day for calls.
There are more restrictions, I guess $10 a month is not getting you unlimited 
use and if you did want to use your watch to make many calls or have long talks 
you would then still need it to go through your phone. 
I don't quite understand what you are asking or saying about needing iOS 11 for 
the watch. Maybe you do for the series 3, but as iOS 11 comes out next Tuesday 
and even if you get the watch on day 1 it won't be until next Friday so there 
shouldn't be a problem.
Also, as far as using bluetooth headsets or earpieces is concerned, the 
bluetooth connection between the iPhone and the Watch does not mean you can't 
use a bluetooth headset. I have my Plantronics Voyager Edge paired with both my 
phone and my series 2 watch and it works flawlessly, if I use the phone I hear 
the phone, as soon as I do something on the watch and the Edge is turned on it 
switches over and I hear what I am doing on the watch. Once I'm done and the 
watch goes to sleep it goes back to the iPhone without me ever doing anything 
special. I would hope this works equally well and seamlessly with the Airpods 
and in fact it really should work even better and faster  since they are 
supposed to be optimised for Apple devices.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:19 AM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch Series 3 and AirPods

I have the idea that with watches prior to the series 3, there was a Bluetooth 
connection between the phone and the watch. With the advent of the LTE, I 
wonder if this would free up that connection, so that you could use it with 
AirPods for other Bluetooth headset when you're out and you don't have your 
phone. Also, maybe this was already known to everyone, but I learned by looking 
at the Apple Watch specs that you have to have your phone running iOS 11. So 
for folks who wanted to wait a little while before upgrading, you can't do that 
if you also want the series 3. Kind of a bummer.
Mary


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Re: Braille Display command trouble

2017-09-15 Thread Diane

I'm not sure what those letters mean.  All I know is that my friend sent me 
the link for the bata of IOS 11 so that I could get all the little updates 
between the full update of 10 and 11.  Since next Tuesday is the full update 
of 11, this is the final bata in my phone.  I don't know any other technical 
thing about it.
- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble

You say "final update beta". Does this mean the GM? Just curious as that's 
what I'm running now on all my devices.

On 13 Sep 2017, at 12:12, Diane  wrote:

I am on the final bata update right now.  Expecting to download from Apple 
IOS 11 next week.
- Original Message - 
From: Melissa Tucker

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: Braille Display command trouble

I think i have an answer, but what version of ios are you using?

On Sep 10, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Diane  
wrote:

I think this is the group I should 
ask this question of, so here goes.

I have a folder of song lyrics in dropbox in access note.  Each song is 
an individual file.  My church naturally has an overhead which everyone 
else can read.  I got the lyrics for the song so that I could follow 
along and sing with them.  By the way, this happens even if the folder is 
just in the dropbox.  I tried it within access note and regular dropbox. 
I find my song folder and enter on it, which is the the dot 8 key.  I 
have the focus blue 40 display.  I go in a song and I can start reading 
the words.  I was told to hit chord b to go back.  What I want to do is 
to go back out of the song back to the song list.  That way I could go 
through my song list and find the next song that is put up.  I hit chord 
b and it goes completely out of the folder to the beginning of dropbox 
things.  As I swaid before, I tried it in access note and regular dropbox 
and it did the same thing.  I flicked throught the list of folders to the 
right one.  It will go inside the song folder but not further.  It will 
not go in the individual song to read the words.  I have to close the app 
and try again.  My question is this.  Is there a voice-over command for 
the Braille display to go back out of the song words to my list of songs? 
I know that dot 8 enters on things.  I wanted to explain it very clearly 
to get the right answer.  I hope someone can help.

Thanks much.  God bless.

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Re: iPhone 8+ ordered.

2017-09-15 Thread Kay Malmquist

I'm not sure what that is about but if I sent the wrong post to the wrong 
list, sorry about that.
Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message - 
From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:08 AM
Subject: iPhone 8+ ordered.

Have pre-ordered the 8+.

Look forward to wireless charging.

The larger battery will also be good as my standard 7 can barely get
through a working day.

Next on my list is the Watch 3 and AirPods.

Who else will be upgrading to the 8 or X?

Sadam Ahmed

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Re: iPhone 8+ ordered.

2017-09-15 Thread Kay Malmquist

Kay Malmquist
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From: "Sadam Ahmed" 
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Subject: iPhone 8+ ordered.

Have pre-ordered the 8+.

Look forward to wireless charging.

The larger battery will also be good as my standard 7 can barely get
through a working day.

Next on my list is the Watch 3 and AirPods.

Who else will be upgrading to the 8 or X?

Sadam Ahmed

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RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there seems 
to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the sidebar, then I 
turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have the same interface 
it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, artist and album and 
then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected anything in any of the 3 
columns only the songs which apply.
There are now only 5 media types as follows:


Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
Movies, Control+2 also as before
TV Shows, Control+3 as before
Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I think 
was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this announcement 
in the future.
You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know these 
are now gone.
I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more accessible 
as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column with genres so 
to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., then the second column 
is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out what the names here are, 
but after that I have a nice listview just as with songs where all my movies 
appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the title and a brief summary of 
the movie.
When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek Voyager 
Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them together, but 
the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and then again 1 to 26 
for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with episode number and title.
I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it asked 
me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the information 
there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am subscribed to 
using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can arrow up and down 
through the episodes and have buttons for default settings, settings and more, 
it all seems to be fine.
Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and seem 
accessible.
I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but I’ll 
do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far as the 
library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than before 
especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books sections.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for me.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a 
pretty big outcry if Apple did not at all allow users to add their own 
ringtones.
As for the app store in iTunes, well, I haven’t used that to manage apps in a 
long time so as far as I am concerned I won’t miss it. Yes, I know that some 
Voiceover users like to make sure they have backup copies of apps in case a new 
update breaks accessibility and this just means set app updates to manual on 
the iPhone and let somebody else take the plunge first if you are really 
concerned.
What the author said about developing countries and bandwwidth and all that to 
me doesn’t make much sense since certainly people in developing countries often 
don’t even have

iPhone 8+ ordered.

2017-09-15 Thread Sadam Ahmed


Have pre-ordered the 8+.

Look forward to wireless charging.

The larger battery will also be good as my standard 7 can barely get 
through a working day.


Next on my list is the Watch 3 and AirPods.

Who else will be upgrading to the 8 or X?

Sadam Ahmed

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RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Wireless charging has been a bit slow in coming, but it obviously is where 
things are going and now that Apple has adopted it and, surprise surprise, they 
actually adopted an open standard instead of developing their own proprietary 
one wireless charging will take off big time. The two clowns from Windows 
Weekly may not always have good things to say about Apple, but Paul T did say 
in their last Podcast that while Apple may not always be the first to the party 
that when they do adopt something they usually do it right and once they adopt 
it everybody else takes note just because Apple is so big and influencial. This 
is mainly true although in a very important way he is also wrong because Apple 
was the one who really started the smartphone party and they were the ones who 
absolutely pioneered multi-touch, having apps and all that.
They also have the cash to invest into OLED technology and to help other 
companies to produce these things in the quantities they need without being 
entirely dependent on Samsung and let's face it, they did also put Touch Id on 
the mainstream map because while of course fingerprint sensors have existed for 
many years, Apple made them ubiquitous and from what I read nowhere does it 
work as fast and reliably as on the iPhone. Now they are doing the same with 
Face Id, so far it's been a toy available on a few phones and let's not forget 
Windows Hello which nobody uses, you can be certain that in a few years 
everybody will try to catch up with Apple on this.
I would not be at all surprised if Apple are the first ones to figure out how 
to wireless charge from a distance,either.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

They may be making up for the lack of a headphone jack.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> But why would you want to plug into a computer for every-day charging and 
> wait 2 or 3 times as long for the phone to charge?
> 
> According to a quick Google search (I just wanted to make sure) the USB 
> specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire to power connected USB 
> devices.
> A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A 
> device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 
> 2.0; 6 (900
> mA) in USB 3.0.
> As power is equal to current times voltage, all you have to do is multiply 5V 
> with the current the device is drawing from the port.
> 
> OK, so therefore if your USB 3 port does provide 900 MA at 5 Volts, you get 
> 4.5 Watts of power, if you are using a USB 2.0 port you get at best 2.5 Watts.
> The iPhone charger we all have from when we buy our iPhones delivers 5 Volts 
> at 1 Amp hence it delivers 5 Watts and if you use an iPad charger you get 5.1 
> Volts at 2.1 Amps which gives you 12 Watts (rounded down).
> If you really care about charging quickly and you plan to buy an iPhone 8, 8 
> Plus or iPhone X which all support fast charging then you can spend a bit 
> more money and get Apple's fast charger which I belive is a USB C to 
> Lightning cable and which will charge your phone from empty to 50% in 30 
> minutes. Plug an empty phone into a computer and it takes almost 5 minutes 
> before it even turns on again and after half an hour you may have 20 or 25%.
> I only plug my phone into the computer if I want to sync it or copy some 
> photos off it although since setting up iCloud on my computer that's not 
> really necessary any more since all the photos I take magically appear on my 
> computer anyways and I do also use it from time to time if I am travelling 
> and I have my laptop with me where maybe I'm sitting at an airport for a 
> couple of hours and plugging it into the laptop is better than not plugging 
> it in at all.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Eh. As long as Apple gives me some benefit to plugging the phone in, 
> particularly to my computer, I'm probably not going to switch to wireless 
> charging. Okay, so perhaps you won't be able to use your computer to download 
> apps going forward. I assume you can still use it to download iOS, and back 
> up your phone. Because we all know how often Apple's updates are the opposite 
> of flawless, that will be good enough reason for me not to adopt wireless 
> charging. If Apple eventually kills those benefits, such as only letting you 
> update the OS from your phone, it may be time for me to consider a switch to 
> Android.
> 
> -Original Message-
>

RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

2017-09-15 Thread Richard Turner

For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for me.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a 
pretty big outcry if Apple did not at all allow users to add their own 
ringtones.
As for the app store in iTunes, well, I haven’t used that to manage apps in a 
long time so as far as I am concerned I won’t miss it. Yes, I know that some 
Voiceover users like to make sure they have backup copies of apps in case a new 
update breaks accessibility and this just means set app updates to manual on 
the iPhone and let somebody else take the plunge first if you are really 
concerned.
What the author said about developing countries and bandwwidth and all that to 
me doesn’t make much sense since certainly people in developing countries often 
don’t even have a computer let along a home WiFi. My wife is from the 
Philippines which isn’t even among the poorest countries and even there people 
who have an iPhone are usually in the top few percent of the population in 
terms of wealth, the large mass of people there can’t afford an iPhone and they 
certainly don’t have a computer or a home WiFi network.
As for iTunes U it does make sense for that to be in something like the 
Podcasts app but why Apple won’t let you manage your books on the computer is a 
mystery to me, too. I think there is a big trend towards getting away from 
iTunes and having your phone tethered to a computer for all sorts of things, 
but having some of these options surely can’t hurt, either.
One feature I am sure many of us will like is the new Files app in iTunes. I 
just downloaded a Dropbox update and in the Whats New section it mentioned that 
Dropbox in this updated added compatibility with the Files app so you will see 
all your Dropbox content in the Files app. I assume OneDrive will follow suit 
and this new app should really make it much easier to add and manage files of 
all types on your device.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Note to self: hold on to current version of iTunes until it becomes impractical.

Also: what does this mean for those of us who prefer to make our own ringtones? 
Are we boned as of latest version?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: September-13-17 10:59 AM
To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
Macworld  /  Glenn Fleishman

iTunes 12.7 appeared 
Tuesday
 following Apple’s slate of product 
announcements,
 and its version number hides how much that’s disappeared and changed in this 
release. The iOS App Store is wiped out, as are ringtones. iTunes U and 
Internet Radio have moved locations. And iTunes for Windows lost its ability to 
manage books in iOS.
[itunes 12 7 yeah right]IDG

The first time you launch iTunes

RE: Cases for wireless charging

Any case that is not made from metal or has metal in it will work.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cases for wireless charging

I'm wondering what the cases will be like for the new iPhones so that they can 
use wireless charging. Right now I have one of those rubber cases that snap on 
the phone that I bought from T-mobile. I prefer these kinds of cases myself. 
Does anyone know if they will have these that will allow for wireless charging?

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RE: Apple Watch with voiceover, use cases and explanatory material

Not that I know of.


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch with voiceover, use cases and explanatory material

hi,
I am wondering if straps with built-in add-on batteries exist yet?
Sandy  who doesn't have an Apple Watch)

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 14 Sep 2017, at 18:57, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the responses. I wonder about the battery. Does the 42 mm size 
> have a bigger battery? You might suppose it would. Of course, having never 
> actually had hands on, I have no clue what 42 mm actually looks like. I have 
> used braille watches ever since I was a kid. I suppose I could get somebody 
> to measure the diameter of my brill watch to get some idea.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and all,
>> 
>> My favorite thing about the watch is notifications going to my wrist. For 
>> instance, we were at a noisy event a year ago and were trying to meet up 
>> with friends. I was able to know when their text message came through 
>> because of the tap on my wrist; I would never have heard the chime from my 
>> phone or felt it vibrate. So the watch made the difference between finding 
>> and not finding them.
>> 
>> The fitness features are nice as well. Also, there are some useful apps. The 
>> built-in timer and alarm clock are great because with the watch muted, you 
>> can know they are going off without anyone else being disturbed. There's 
>> also a very simple app called clickr that I use for counting rows in 
>> knitting patterns; you double-tap it, and the count goes up by one.
>> 
>> I'm working on an Apple Watch book that will be published by National 
>> Braille Press in a few months. I don't know exactly when, but I would think 
>> it would come out near the beginning of next year.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m put off the cellular model because, even if my current carrier soon 
>>> offers such an add on contract, I understand that carriers are likely to 
>>> charge an extra $10 a month just for the Watch LTE on top of our current 
>>> carrier’s monthly charge for the iPhone SIM contract. As I bought my phone 
>>> outright and now pay £7.50 a month for iPhone SIM only contract in U.K. 
>>> with Giffgaff, the Watch LTE add on would more than double my monthly bill! 
>>> So I’ll get a Watch for health and fitness reasons mostly but without 
>>> cellular and simply schlep my iPhone with me wherever I go!
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2017, at 16:11, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I thought I sent out a message on this topic yesterday, but I'm not seeing 
 it in my sent mail folder, so I don't know where it went. Anyway, I am 
 considering the new Apple Watch when it comes out next week I guess. The 
 LTE is intriguing. I know there are people on this list who have watches, 
 and I'm curious about your use cases. What made the watch compelling? Up 
 until now, I haven't seen much of any reason to have one. Also, I am 
 interested in documentation about how you use the watch with voice over. I 
 suppose there might be a podcast or two on Apple vis. But I am more a fan 
 of written documentation then I am of podcasts. So, does anybody know of 
 anything?
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Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

2017-09-15 Thread Devin Prater

They may be making up for the lack of a headphone jack.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> But why would you want to plug into a computer for every-day charging and 
> wait 2 or 3 times as long for the phone to charge?
> 
> According to a quick Google search (I just wanted to make sure) the USB 
> specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire to power connected USB 
> devices.
> A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device 
> may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900
> mA) in USB 3.0.
> As power is equal to current times voltage, all you have to do is multiply 5V 
> with the current the device is drawing from the port.
> 
> OK, so therefore if your USB 3 port does provide 900 MA at 5 Volts, you get 
> 4.5 Watts of power, if you are using a USB 2.0 port you get at best 2.5 Watts.
> The iPhone charger we all have from when we buy our iPhones delivers 5 Volts 
> at 1 Amp hence it delivers 5 Watts and if you use an iPad charger you get 5.1 
> Volts at 2.1 Amps which gives you 12 Watts (rounded down).
> If you really care about charging quickly and you plan to buy an iPhone 8, 8 
> Plus or iPhone X which all support fast charging then you can spend a bit 
> more money and get Apple's fast charger which I belive is a USB C to 
> Lightning cable and which will charge your phone from empty to 50% in 30 
> minutes. Plug an empty phone into a computer and it takes almost 5 minutes 
> before it even turns on again and after half an hour you may have 20 or 25%.
> I only plug my phone into the computer if I want to sync it or copy some 
> photos off it although since setting up iCloud on my computer that's not 
> really necessary any more since all the photos I take magically appear on my 
> computer anyways and I do also use it from time to time if I am travelling 
> and I have my laptop with me where maybe I'm sitting at an airport for a 
> couple of hours and plugging it into the laptop is better than not plugging 
> it in at all.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> James Homuth
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Eh. As long as Apple gives me some benefit to plugging the phone in, 
> particularly to my computer, I'm probably not going to switch to wireless 
> charging. Okay, so perhaps you won't be able to use your computer to download 
> apps going forward. I assume you can still use it to download iOS, and back 
> up your phone. Because we all know how often Apple's updates are the opposite 
> of flawless, that will be good enough reason for me not to adopt wireless 
> charging. If Apple eventually kills those benefits, such as only letting you 
> update the OS from your phone, it may be time for me to consider a switch to 
> Android.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September-15-17 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
> outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
> phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
> charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
> down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
> first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
> before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
> when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
> or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
> getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
> as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, 
> airplanes and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I 
> believe the Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have 
> fast charging technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an 
> hour) I really do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an 
> initial investment.
> Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
> about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
> regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
> have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables.
> Wireless charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging 
> pad is more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for 
> years

RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

But why would you want to plug into a computer for every-day charging and wait 
2 or 3 times as long for the phone to charge?

According to a quick Google search (I just wanted to make sure) the USB 
specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire to power connected USB 
devices.
A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device 
may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900
mA) in USB 3.0.
As power is equal to current times voltage, all you have to do is multiply 5V 
with the current the device is drawing from the port.

OK, so therefore if your USB 3 port does provide 900 MA at 5 Volts, you get 4.5 
Watts of power, if you are using a USB 2.0 port you get at best 2.5 Watts.
The iPhone charger we all have from when we buy our iPhones delivers 5 Volts at 
1 Amp hence it delivers 5 Watts and if you use an iPad charger you get 5.1 
Volts at 2.1 Amps which gives you 12 Watts (rounded down).
If you really care about charging quickly and you plan to buy an iPhone 8, 8 
Plus or iPhone X which all support fast charging then you can spend a bit more 
money and get Apple's fast charger which I belive is a USB C to Lightning cable 
and which will charge your phone from empty to 50% in 30 minutes. Plug an empty 
phone into a computer and it takes almost 5 minutes before it even turns on 
again and after half an hour you may have 20 or 25%.
I only plug my phone into the computer if I want to sync it or copy some photos 
off it although since setting up iCloud on my computer that's not really 
necessary any more since all the photos I take magically appear on my computer 
anyways and I do also use it from time to time if I am travelling and I have my 
laptop with me where maybe I'm sitting at an airport for a couple of hours and 
plugging it into the laptop is better than not plugging it in at all.

Regards,
Sieghard
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Eh. As long as Apple gives me some benefit to plugging the phone in, 
particularly to my computer, I'm probably not going to switch to wireless 
charging. Okay, so perhaps you won't be able to use your computer to download 
apps going forward. I assume you can still use it to download iOS, and back up 
your phone. Because we all know how often Apple's updates are the opposite of 
flawless, that will be good enough reason for me not to adopt wireless 
charging. If Apple eventually kills those benefits, such as only letting you 
update the OS from your phone, it may be time for me to consider a switch to 
Android.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September-15-17 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Alan,

I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall 
outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your 
phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's 
charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your phone 
down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then you 
first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I said 
before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of the time 
when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away with a full 
or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays don't care about 
getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course there is the fact that 
as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee shops, restaurants, airplanes 
and so on you have lots of opportunities to charge your phone. I believe the 
Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the new iPhones all have fast charging 
technology (they charge from completely empty to 50% in half an hour) I really 
do see how this can be a very nice feature even if there is an initial 
investment.
Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special Podcast 
about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a fairly 
regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of them, but I 
have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables.
Wireless charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging pad 
is more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for years 
and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work

Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes 12.7

2017-09-15 Thread Russ Kiehne

Perhaps someone can do a podcast or written instructions on how to use it? 
My question is, is it still accessible with a screen reader?

-Original Message- 
From: Woody Anna Dresner

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:15 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hi Russ,

Yes, iTunes file sharing is still there. It has its own entry in the list of 
content types, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.

Best,
Anna

On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:04 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Nothing is said about using itunes file sharing?  I use itunes file 
sharing to transfer very large zip files into voice dream reader.  Will I 
stillbe be able to do this with itunes 12.7?

-Original Message- From: M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch using iTunes 12.7

Hello Everyone,

As there are many, like me, who use both Mac and Windows, I'm posting the
following article to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list.

The point of this support page, from Apple, is that one can continue to
manage custom media content in iTunes 12.7:

Mark

Manually manage content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes

You can manually add specific content from your computer to your iOS 
device.

With iTunes, you can manage the content on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod by
manually syncing specific items to your device.

If you have iCloud Music Library turned on, you can't manually manage 
music,

but you can still manage videos using the steps below.

Manually add items from iTunes
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.Choose the content that you want to add to your device from your iTunes
library.
4.Look in the left sidebar for your device, then drag the content to your
iPhone, iPad, or iPod.

If you're using an iPhone, you can add music or videos only from a single
iTunes Library.

If you're using an iPad or iPod, you can add music from multiple iTunes
Libraries, but videos from only one iTunes Library.

If you can't manually add or remove content from your device

Check to make sure that the "Manually manage music and videos" option is
turned on:
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.Locate and click on your device.

4.In the left sidebar, click Summary.
5.Scroll to the Options section.
6.Click the box next to "Manually manage music and videos."
7.Click Apply.

You might see a message that your device is synced with another library.
This means that you've used a different computer to sync your device in 
the

past, and iTunes can't sync without first erasing and replacing all iTunes
content on your device.

Manually add items from your computer

If you have media on your computer that you can't redownload from the App
Store or iTunes Store directly on your iOS device, such as custom 
ringtones
or iOS apps, you can drag and drop the media from your computer to your 
iOS

device using iTunes.
1.Connect your device to your computer.
2.Open iTunes. Make sure that you have the latest version.
3.On your computer, find the item you want to add to your device. If 
you're
looking for Apps, Tones, or Books (for Windows) that previously appeared 
in

your iTunes library, you can find them in your iTunes media folder.
4.Drag the item from your computer to your iOS device in the left sidebar 
of

iTunes.

Published Date: Sep 12, 2017

Original Article at:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201593

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Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

2017-09-15 Thread Russ Kiehne

From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer use 
itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes file 
sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so that 
part won’t be changed would be my interpretation. I think there would be a 
pretty big outcry if Apple did not at all allow users to add their own 
ringtones.

As for the app store in iTunes, well, I haven’t used that to manage apps in a 
long time so as far as I am concerned I won’t miss it. Yes, I know that some 
Voiceover users like to make sure they have backup copies of apps in case a new 
update breaks accessibility and this just means set app updates to manual on 
the iPhone and let somebody else take the plunge first if you are really 
concerned.

What the author said about developing countries and bandwwidth and all that to 
me doesn’t make much sense since certainly people in developing countries often 
don’t even have a computer let along a home WiFi. My wife is from the 
Philippines which isn’t even among the poorest countries and even there people 
who have an iPhone are usually in the top few percent of the population in 
terms of wealth, the large mass of people there can’t afford an iPhone and they 
certainly don’t have a computer or a home WiFi network.

As for iTunes U it does make sense for that to be in something like the 
Podcasts app but why Apple won’t let you manage your books on the computer is a 
mystery to me, too. I think there is a big trend towards getting away from 
iTunes and having your phone tethered to a computer for all sorts of things, 
but having some of these options surely can’t hurt, either.

One feature I am sure many of us will like is the new Files app in iTunes. I 
just downloaded a Dropbox update and in the Whats New section it mentioned that 
Dropbox in this updated added compatibility with the Files app so you will see 
all your Dropbox content in the Files app. I assume OneDrive will follow suit 
and this new app should really make it much easier to add and manage files of 
all types on your device.

Regards,

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Note to self: hold on to current version of iTunes until it becomes impractical.

Also: what does this mean for those of us who prefer to make our own ringtones? 
Are we boned as of latest version?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: September-13-17 10:59 AM
To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; 
viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes

Macworld  /  Glenn Fleishman

iTunes 12.7 appeared Tuesday following Apple’s slate of product announcements, 
and its version number hides how much that’s disappeared and changed in this 
release. The iOS App Store is wiped out, as are ringtones. iTunes U and 
Internet Radio have moved locations. And iTunes for Windows lost its ability to 
manage books in iOS.

IDG 

The first time you launch iTunes 12.7, it gives you this hilarious bit of fluff 
about the changes made.

While many people have argued iTunes’ feature creep over the years had made it 
an increasingly odd sack of unrelated items, this shift doesn’t come with 
commensurate improvements or additions elsewhere in macOS, and may cause some 
difficulties for people with modest Internet throughput or low bandwidth caps, 
which can affect people across both the developed world (more the U.S. than 
elsewhere) and the developing one.

The biggest hit is to the iOS App Store in iTunes, which was always a strange 
fit. iOS apps were in iTunes, because iTunes was once the only way to manage 
content. But you’ll have to adjust your behavior and find new places to carry 
out activities you might have before. Let’s go through the changes.

What to do about no iOS apps in iTunes 12.7
The App Store in iTunes is kaput and there’s nothing you

Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Kelby Carlson


BlindSquare kind of does this, but with intersections.


On 9/15/2017 7:23 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe wrote:
*Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on 
upcoming street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  
I know that you need to contact your local City Engineer to give the 
specs throughout the area so to include it in the app data. Living 
here in Salem, MA., we are expecting thousands of individuals from all 
over the world in October.  I could contact our Engineer to provide 
the data but, I need to tell him where to send the information.  Does 
anyone remember this app??  Last year there was a limited area that 
had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who to contact then I 
can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert*

*Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185*
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Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Hi, I will contact our city engineer but, I need to know what to ask him... 
Andy and Shubert

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

Be sure to read the list of cities in the description, but City Lights does 
this. The developer is also quite willing to add cities if you can get someone 
from the traffic department to send him the data.

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

  Will this app include Salem, MA as is?  Andy and Shubert

  From: Pete Nalda 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:07 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

  Lazerillo GPS does this. 

  Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates 
  Louie P (Pete) Nalda
  MySpace.com/musikonalda
  Facebook.com/lpnalda
  Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
  Twitter: @lpnalda

  On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
wrote:

Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on upcoming 
street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  I know that you 
need to contact your local City Engineer to give the specs throughout the area 
so to include it in the app data.  Living here in Salem, MA., we are expecting 
thousands of individuals from all over the world in October.  I could contact 
our Engineer to provide the data but, I need to tell him where to send the 
information.  Does anyone remember this app??  Last year there was a limited 
area that had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who to contact then 
I can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Richard Turner

Be sure to read the list of cities in the description, but City Lights does 
this. The developer is also quite willing to add cities if you can get someone 
from the traffic department to send him the data.

On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:13 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:

Will this app include Salem, MA as is?  Andy and Shubert

From: Pete Nalda
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

Lazerillo GPS does this.

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On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
> wrote:

Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on upcoming 
street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  I know that you 
need to contact your local City Engineer to give the specs throughout the area 
so to include it in the app data.  Living here in Salem, MA., we are expecting 
thousands of individuals from all over the world in October.  I could contact 
our Engineer to provide the data but, I need to tell him where to send the 
information.  Does anyone remember this app??  Last year there was a limited 
area that had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who to contact then 
I can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Will this app include Salem, MA as is?  Andy and Shubert

From: Pete Nalda 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

Lazerillo GPS does this. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates 
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

  Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on upcoming 
street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  I know that you 
need to contact your local City Engineer to give the specs throughout the area 
so to include it in the app data.  Living here in Salem, MA., we are expecting 
thousands of individuals from all over the world in October.  I could contact 
our Engineer to provide the data but, I need to tell him where to send the 
information.  Does anyone remember this app??  Last year there was a limited 
area that had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who to contact then 
I can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
  Andrew J. LaPointe
  Co-Chairman
  Salem Commission on Disabilities
  President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
  34 Raymond Ave.
  Salem, MA. 01970
  Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185
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Re: Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Pete Nalda

Lazerillo GPS does this. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
MySpace.com/musikonalda
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> On Sep 15, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on upcoming 
> street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  I know that you 
> need to contact your local City Engineer to give the specs throughout the 
> area so to include it in the app data.  Living here in Salem, MA., we are 
> expecting thousands of individuals from all over the world in October.  I 
> could contact our Engineer to provide the data but, I need to tell him where 
> to send the information.  Does anyone remember this app??  Last year there 
> was a limited area that had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who 
> to contact then I can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
> Salem Commission on Disabilities
> President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
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Alert for upcoming street crossings

2017-09-15 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe

Hello, going back a bit, there was an app that would alert us on upcoming 
street crossings and Lights.  I can’t seem to find the app.  I know that you 
need to contact your local City Engineer to give the specs throughout the area 
so to include it in the app data.  Living here in Salem, MA., we are expecting 
thousands of individuals from all over the world in October.  I could contact 
our Engineer to provide the data but, I need to tell him where to send the 
information.  Does anyone remember this app??  Last year there was a limited 
area that had the benefits of the app.  If you can tell me who to contact then 
I can work on the rest.  Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe
Co-Chairman
Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Cases for wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread Gordon

I'm wondering what the cases will be like for the new iPhones so that 
they can use wireless charging. Right now I have one of those rubber 
cases that snap on the phone that I bought from T-mobile. I prefer these 
kinds of cases myself. Does anyone know if they will have these that 
will allow for wireless charging?


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Re: Cross-Posted: Duolingo Accessibility

2017-09-15 Thread '鍾智明' via VIPhone

Good work

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Christine Grassman  於 2017年9月15日 下午5:13 寫道：
> 
> Dear ViPhone and Mac Visionaries Listers:
> I have submitted a report about Duolingo’s accessibility shortcomings, made 
> worse by its most recent update, to an attorney who specializes in 
> encouraging companies to make inclusion of people with disabilities in the 
> provision of goods and services a priority. As one of the most frequently 
> downloaded educational apps the purpose of which is to teach language, there 
> is no reason why this app should not be completely accessible, particularly 
> with Apple’s developer tools.
> As a person who greatly enjoys learning about and learning languages, I put 
> up with the glitches and found workarounds to get myself to a 45-day learning 
> streak. I reached out to the company, but received no reply other than a 
> “thanks for the information” response. 
> The most recent update makes it virtually impossible for someone using 
> VoiceOver to use the app, particularly with respect to the audio: it simply 
> is not working most of the time.
> If anyone who has recently tried, or currently wishes, to use this app would 
> like to submit their own complaint to the attorney, please write me off-list.
> If there is interest in making more noise about this, perhaps through an 
> applevis or similar campaign, that would also be great.
> Have a great day and weekend. For those of you ordering new products today, I 
> hope your purchasing experience goes through as quickly and smoothly as mine. 
> :)
> Christine
> Email:
> cfgrass...@icloud.com
> Or
> cgrassman1...@gmail.com
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Re: wireless charging

Hi Sandy,

Here is the link to the adapter on Amazon.  It was about $13 US.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EKAC292/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1

The charging pad was about $11 US.  Here is the link to that. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 It isn’t the fast charging one, but I don’t feel the need to pay $60 for a 
fast charge if I’m just sitting here anyway.  

I do use bluetooth headphones because I don’t want to have to plug and unplug 
the adapter all the time.

Take care,
Lois

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: wireless charging

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:


  Hi,

  Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
wirelessly.

  I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.

  By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
charging pads for just over $10.

  Take care,
  Lois

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

  Hi Chris,



  I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
have to plug in a wire.

  As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone charging 
right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a charging 
pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.

  As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable and 
plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they call 
it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods 
bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three 
devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this 
may even include other devices which adopt the standard.

  As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi wireless 
charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to make it 
better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide variety of 
devices to compliment it.





  Best regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?



  Hello folks,

  When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to place 
the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This is not 
remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about more 
gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the wire, we 
will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging to work.  

  I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am not 
sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or café, 
or in an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my table or 
on the arm of my chair, I would not use it.

  Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it better 
to me?

  Cheers,

  Cris



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Cross-Posted: Duolingo Accessibility

2017-09-15 Thread Christine Grassman

Dear ViPhone and Mac Visionaries Listers:
I have submitted a report about Duolingo’s accessibility shortcomings, made 
worse by its most recent update, to an attorney who specializes in encouraging 
companies to make inclusion of people with disabilities in the provision of 
goods and services a priority. As one of the most frequently downloaded 
educational apps the purpose of which is to teach language, there is no reason 
why this app should not be completely accessible, particularly with Apple’s 
developer tools.
As a person who greatly enjoys learning about and learning languages, I put up 
with the glitches and found workarounds to get myself to a 45-day learning 
streak. I reached out to the company, but received no reply other than a 
“thanks for the information” response. 
The most recent update makes it virtually impossible for someone using 
VoiceOver to use the app, particularly with respect to the audio: it simply is 
not working most of the time.
If anyone who has recently tried, or currently wishes, to use this app would 
like to submit their own complaint to the attorney, please write me off-list.
If there is interest in making more noise about this, perhaps through an 
applevis or similar campaign, that would also be great.
Have a great day and weekend. For those of you ordering new products today, I 
hope your purchasing experience goes through as quickly and smoothly as mine. :)
Christine
Email:
cfgrass...@icloud.com 
Or
cgrassman1...@gmail.com 

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Re: wireless charging

2017-09-15 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

Lois,
You clever person! What is the name and make of your wireless charger adapter?
Thanks, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 14 Sep 2017, at 22:23, Lois Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Because our new car has a charging pad, I started to research charging the 
> IPhone wirelessly.  I found that you can buy an adapter that plugs into the 
> lightning port and sticks to the back of the phone to make your IPhone charge 
> wirelessly.
>  
> I use a Lifeproof Free case, and I can fit the phone along with the adapter 
> into the case.  I now have an IPhone that charges wirelessly.  I love it.
>  
> By the way, the wireless adapter costs way under $20, and you can get 
> charging pads for just over $10.
>  
> Take care,
> Lois
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?
>  
> Hi Chris,
>  
> I don’t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the technology 
> which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not exist. Maybe it 
> exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is probably working very 
> hard on getting this to work, but for now wireless just means that you don’t 
> have to plug in a wire.
> As for public spaces, I believe companies like Starbucks and so on have 
> wireless charging pads built into tables so you could have your phone 
> charging right next to you, obviously nobody would put their phone down on a 
> charging pad and then go away and sit down 10 or 20 feet away.
> As for charging when you travel there is nothing which prevents you to do 
> this just as you have always done it which means bring your Lightning cable 
> and plug it in. However, when Apple releases their “Airpower” charger as they 
> call it then for people who have an iPhone, an Apple Watch and maybe Airpods 
> bringing this instead makes a lot of sense since it can charge all three 
> devices by themselves or all three at once and of course as time goes by this 
> may even include other devices which adopt the standard.
> As with everything once Apple adopts something, in this case the Chi wireless 
> charging standard, they not only can pour a ton of money into it to make it 
> better but accessory makers will also scramble to bring out a wide variety of 
> devices to compliment it.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cris Ali
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How does wireless charging work and  what are the benefits?
>  
> Hello folks,
> When I listened to the apple keynote, I did not quite understand the 
> advantages of wireless charging.  My understanding is that one needs to place 
> the phone on a wireless charging pad or stand for it to charge. This is not 
> remotely wireless charging.  That means that we have to worry about more 
> gadgets to carry when we travel.  In addition to the adapter and the wire, we 
> will need to also carry a pad or a stand for the wireless charging to work. 
> I understood that if many public places provide wireless charging we would 
> not have to worry about carrying our charging accessories.  However, I am not 
> sure I would like to place my phone on a charging pad in a restaurant or 
> café, or in an airport terminal.  Unless the wireless charging pad is on my 
> table or on the arm of my chair, I would not use it.
> Can someone who is more familiar with this idea and process explain it better 
> to me?
> Cheers,
> Cris
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Re: Apple Watch with voiceover, use cases and explanatory material

2017-09-15 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone

hi,
I am wondering if straps with built-in add-on batteries exist yet?
Sandy  who doesn't have an Apple Watch)

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 14 Sep 2017, at 18:57, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the responses. I wonder about the battery. Does the 42 mm size 
> have a bigger battery? You might suppose it would. Of course, having never 
> actually had hands on, I have no clue what 42 mm actually looks like. I have 
> used braille watches ever since I was a kid. I suppose I could get somebody 
> to measure the diameter of my brill watch to get some idea.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and all,
>> 
>> My favorite thing about the watch is notifications going to my wrist. For 
>> instance, we were at a noisy event a year ago and were trying to meet up 
>> with friends. I was able to know when their text message came through 
>> because of the tap on my wrist; I would never have heard the chime from my 
>> phone or felt it vibrate. So the watch made the difference between finding 
>> and not finding them.
>> 
>> The fitness features are nice as well. Also, there are some useful apps. The 
>> built-in timer and alarm clock are great because with the watch muted, you 
>> can know they are going off without anyone else being disturbed. There's 
>> also a very simple app called clickr that I use for counting rows in 
>> knitting patterns; you double-tap it, and the count goes up by one.
>> 
>> I'm working on an Apple Watch book that will be published by National 
>> Braille Press in a few months. I don't know exactly when, but I would think 
>> it would come out near the beginning of next year.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m put off the cellular model because, even if my current carrier soon 
>>> offers such an add on contract, I understand that carriers are likely to 
>>> charge an extra $10 a month just for the Watch LTE on top of our current 
>>> carrier’s monthly charge for the iPhone SIM contract. As I bought my phone 
>>> outright and now pay £7.50 a month for iPhone SIM only contract in U.K. 
>>> with Giffgaff, the Watch LTE add on would more than double my monthly bill! 
>>> So I’ll get a Watch for health and fitness reasons mostly but without 
>>> cellular and simply schlep my iPhone with me wherever I go!
>>> Harry
>>> 
 On 14 Sep 2017, at 16:11, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I thought I sent out a message on this topic yesterday, but I'm not seeing 
 it in my sent mail folder, so I don't know where it went. Anyway, I am 
 considering the new Apple Watch when it comes out next week I guess. The 
 LTE is intriguing. I know there are people on this list who have watches, 
 and I'm curious about your use cases. What made the watch compelling? Up 
 until now, I haven't seen much of any reason to have one. Also, I am 
 interested in documentation about how you use the watch with voice over. I 
 suppose there might be a podcast or two on Apple vis. But I am more a fan 
 of written documentation then I am of podcasts. So, does anybody know of 
 anything?
 Mary
 
 
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Re: Problems with Latest Version of iTunes

2017-09-15 Thread Woody Anna Dresner

Hi Judy,

The radio tuner is still called Internet Radio, but it's now in your list of 
playlists, near the top. I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


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> On Sep 15, 2017, at 1:10 AM, '鍾 智明' via VIPhone  
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> 
> My problem is, I cannot play my music 
> 
> Ming
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> 
>> Judy Holloway  於 2017年9月15日 下午12:56 寫道：
>> 
>> I upgraded to the latest version of iTunes, and I am totally lost. Could 
>> someone please help me find where the radio tuner is? I am totally baffled 
>> by this version of iTunes. 
>> 
>> I would appreciate any help with this, with step-by-step instructions.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

2017-09-15 Thread James Homuth

Eh. As long as Apple gives me some benefit to plugging the phone in,
particularly to my computer, I'm probably not going to switch to wireless
charging. Okay, so perhaps you won't be able to use your computer to
download apps going forward. I assume you can still use it to download iOS,
and back up your phone. Because we all know how often Apple's updates are
the opposite of flawless, that will be good enough reason for me not to
adopt wireless charging. If Apple eventually kills those benefits, such as
only letting you update the OS from your phone, it may be time for me to
consider a switch to Android.

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September-15-17 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Hi Alan,

I assume the wireless charging pads will always have to plugged into a wall
outlet, but for me I see the advantage in how easy it is to simply put your
phone down on the pad on your side table or in the living room and it's
charging. You don't plug in your lightning cable each time you put your
phone down and maybe 10 minutes later you want to get up and walk away, then
you first have to unplug the cable and all in all it's just a nuisance. As I
said before, I think the fact the phone would be charging a great deal of
the time when it's lying on the table means you most of the time walk away
with a full or almost full battery and of course most batteries nowadays
don't care about getting charge just a bit all the time. Then of course
there is the fact that as this technology gets to be purvasive in coffee
shops, restaurants, airplanes and so on you have lots of opportunities to
charge your phone. I believe the Belkin mat delivers 7.5 Watts and as the
new iPhones all have fast charging technology (they charge from completely
empty to 50% in half an hour) I really do see how this can be a very nice
feature even if there is an initial investment.
Also, this is something Tom from Applevis brought up in their special
Podcast about the Apple event, many of us go through Lightning cables on a
fairly regular bases. I personally seem to get quite a long life out of
them, but I have broken some and certainly have bought my share of cables.
Wireless charging would mostly illiminate this issue and while the charging
pad is more expensive to begin with, you would probably have this thing for
years and years to come so vover time it may end up paying for itself.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

Well, until wireless charging is more prevalent with more competition, I
can't see much advantages from the one product I just read about. The Belkin
Boost Up charging pad sells for $59.99 and unless I'm missing something has
to be plugged into a wall outlet. I'm having a hard time understanding why
this is really all that more convenient than just plugging a cable into your
phone to charge it but I admit I've not fully researched the technology yet.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

I think even the fact I could get 3 or 4 of these chargers for my office and
at home to have in the kitchen, bedroom and living room would make a big
difference. Yes, you could have cables in all these locations, but who wants
to go to the kitchen, plug in the phone, then unplug it when you maybe go to
the living room, plug it in again and so on and so forth. If all you have to
do is put it down on a charging pad this is a totally different story. I for
one have preferred places where I put down my phone in these places so if I
had a charging pad there my phone would always be charged and I rarely would
have to worry about running out.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of lenron brown
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?

When I can charge wirelessly from a distance that's when it will really
matter to me, still a cool thing to have though so I am not knocking it.

On 9/14/17, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I don t claim to understand this fully, but yes, currently the 
> technology which charges devices wirelessly from a distance does not 
> exist. Maybe it exists in labs and I can almost guaranty that Apple is 
> probably working very hard on getting this to work, but for now 
>

Re: Problems with Latest Version of iTunes

2017-09-15 Thread '鍾智明' via VIPhone

My problem is, I cannot play my music 

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Judy Holloway  於 2017年9月15日 下午12:56 寫道：
> 
> I upgraded to the latest version of iTunes, and I am totally lost. Could 
> someone please help me find where the radio tuner is? I am totally baffled by 
> this version of iTunes. 
> 
> I would appreciate any help with this, with step-by-step instructions.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: How does wireless charging work and what are the benefits?