Getting iPhone battery replaced

[Kathy Blackburn]

I am running an iPhone 6 Plus and the most recent version of IOS. Just before 
the last update, I began to get concerned about my phone's battery. The phone 
began to feel less responsive, and I did have one occurrence of unexpected 
shutdown. Using a ride-hailing app and Apple Maps for a half-hour trip can take 
the battery from 100 percent to 72 percent or less. I close both apps when the 
trip is complete. When I'm at church, I turn the phone off completely, only to 
find when I power up the phone a couple of hours later that the battery has 
lost substantially more charge. I have made an appointment with the Apple store 
to get a replacement battery, but they couldn't give me a date until late March 
or April. 
I hope I can keep the phone working until then. It may mean I don't use SEEING 
AI as much as I would like, and I may have to do my reading with another 
device. I have already turned off push notifications from several apps.  
Are others encountering this long wait time? 

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com

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A promising work in progress: initial thoughts on HomePod

[Maria Reyes]

Here’s an interesting review on HomePod. Don’t know if they wrote for Apple but 
it’s still interesting. Oh yeah and just to clarify something,you can actually 
ask Siri to turn up the volume by a specific percentage according to Brent’s 
audio demo Nimer sent earlier.

A Promising Work in Progress: Initial Thoughts on HomePod

By Ryan Christoffel
Feb 12, 2018 — 13:38 EST

At the start, you should know two things about me: HomePod is the first smart 
speaker I've ever owned, and I'm all-in on the Apple ecosystem.

These facts make me the HomePod's perfect customer, and they will surely color 
my comments. I'm guessing if I had more experience with other smart speakers, 
or I didn't own nearly every modern Apple product, my thoughts on HomePod would 
be different. That said, here are my early impressions.


Out of the box, my first thought was that HomePod is the perfect size – not in 
any way close to being too big, but also not abnormally small. It's deceptively 
heavy though. For now I have both white and space grey models, and they each 
look truly fantastic – simple, modern, unassuming, and attractive. And I know 
it's silly, but that power cord is nice.

Setup of HomePod is a triumph. Apple's new product setup flow for devices like 
iPhone used to be long and cumbersome, and that's started to change of late. 
HomePod nails it from the start. Hold your iOS device next to the HomePod, tap 
through a few simple setup screens, and you're done. The best part comes near 
the end, when Siri on the HomePod instructs you by voice in perfect sync with 
the instructions being displayed on your device. I could trust a HomePod to any 
tech-illiterate iPhone owner I know and feel confident they'd have no problems 
with setup. No, it isn't AirPods level one-tap simple, but it's about as good 
as I could imagine.


The main purpose of HomePod is playing music, and it does that very well. It's 
probably not fair to write a HomePod thought piece with only a single paragraph 
covering its music capabilities, but there are plenty of people better 
qualified than me to review HomePod's sound quality – I'm impressed though. 
Bass is powerful for such a small speaker, and I especially love being able to 
hear each distinct instrument in a song well. On Saturday my wife and I just 
sat together a little while doing nothing but enjoying music – we never do 
that. It wasn't just background noise; the music was our main focus. If you 
want to know how HomePod sounds, the answer is that it sounds great.

Other writers seem to universally agree that HomePod's design, setup, and sound 
quality are all stellar. There's not much more worth saying on those matters, 
so I want to focus in these first thoughts on Siri, third-party apps, and some 
miscellaneous items.

Siri


Where Siri on HomePod is an unequivocal success is in hearing its trigger 
phrase. The HomePod's array of microphones does an excellent job of picking up 
"Hey Siri" from any reasonable distance at normal speaking volume. I can speak 
fairly softly in everyday chatter, so when I heard HomePod reviewers say that 
using your normal speaking voice worked fine, I read that with an asterisk, 
wondering if it would apply to me. Well, it does – I don't have to remember I'm 
speaking to a device, I simply have to speak.

Apple has designed HomePod to detect user commands no matter how much blaring 
music's being pumped out of it. Some of the most delightful HomePod moments 
I've had were when the volume was turned way up on a song or podcast, and I 
casually, without raising my voice at all, gave a command that Siri heard 
perfectly. Siri's success in these times isn't the exception, it's the rule.

After playing with HomePod much of the day Friday, by Saturday morning my brain 
had already re-wired to expect that speaking at normal levels, even while the 
HomePod was blasting music, was perfectly fine. And this didn't just apply to 
HomePod – Saturday I was giving HomePod commands in the midst of playing music 
around 60% volume, and I began having a conversation with my wife who was one 
room over. Funnily enough, I started that conversation speaking at a normal 
volume level, expecting my wife would be able to hear me. Of course, she 
couldn't. Siri has humans beat in that department.

Hearing your request is one thing, but answering it properly is another. In 
that area, Siri performs about the same as it does everywhere else. No, it 
can't do everything that it does on other platforms, but for the things it can 
do, it does them well the vast majority of the time – there are certainly 
hiccups though. For example, on Friday I was listening to music, then asked 
HomePod to play the Accidental Tech Podcast. It responded, "Okay, Accidental 
Tech Podcast coming up." It heard me well, understood exactly what I wanted, 
and responded in kind. Except, my music kept playing afterward. I asked Siri 
again, using the same phrasing, and it gave a similar response then started 

homepod

['Ming' via VIPhone]

hi! all,
anyone have  apple HomePod 
if so,  how good or bad is it?
and does it have a podcast for it?


Ming

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 chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
 skype:
 chungchiming9950
 
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Poll about your volume settings

[Gordon]

So I spoke with a buddy of mine named Allen who got the iPhone 8 this 
past Friday. We got into talking about volume settings and he told me 
that his VO volume in the rotor is set to 80 and his ring sound volume 
is set to 33. And he has the box unchecked to select ringer volume with 
buttons. He says that with these volume settings that he can hear his 
notifications really well with the volume buttons on the side turned 
down where the speech is low enough for him to hear but not those around 
him. If I did this same adjustment with my iPhone 7 and you could 
faintly hear notifications sounds when they came in since notifications 
are tied to the media volume while Voice over is turned on. So I'm 
wondering if  those of you with the 8 can hear your notification sounds 
with this volume setup that he has? I have my VO volume set at 5 and 
ringer volume set at 23 which has nothing to do with notification 
sounds. However mine are still really low when they come in since I keep 
my media volume down lower to keep VO from being heard by those around 
me. I don't keep the media volume down so low that I have to strain to 
hear it, but at a comfortable level where I can hear it when I'm using 
the phone. So I'm trying to find out if the 8 works differently than the 
7 and how Allen is able to keep VO volume at 80 and keep the entire 
neighborhood from hearing his speech?


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RE: New list, now with correct address

[M. Taylor]

Christopher,

While Cara and I do not mind that you announced your new list in this forum, 
although it would have been nice to have been consulted first, all subsequent 
correspondence regarding your new community, must be taken off this list, 
immediately.

Thank you, and good luck with your new community.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:24 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: New list, now with correct address

Good morning to the list.
I am ashamed at this, but I have given you all the incorrect address to 
subscribe to my new list dedicated to the Homepod. No wonder we've not have 
many members. Lol! Sorry about that. Now here is the correct address, and I 
have double checked with this the group's home page, reading character by 
character with VoiceOver on my iPhone 6s. It is
homepodding+subscr...@groups.io
Thank you very much, I look forward to seeing you there.
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RE: message for chris

[M. Taylor]

Christopher,

While Cara and I do not mind that you announced your new list in this forum, 
although it would have been nice to have been consulted first, all subsequent 
correspondence regarding your new community, must be taken off this list, 
immediately.

Thank you, and good luck with your new community.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: message for chris

Ok, no worries, do you want me to send you an invite or add you directly using 
your email address? Thanks for contacting me off list by the way, as requested. 
Greatly appreciated. Anyway, thanks in advance for any responses.

On 12 Feb 2018, at 09:42, Janet Bell  wrote:
Hi Chris, I have tried to subscribe to your list homepod but it is failing to 
go.  Haven’t got pone just interested to learn about them.  Janet
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Re: Walmart Grocery App

[Sandra E. Finley]

Well, believe it or not, last night I found an update to the Walmart Grocery 
app and, bingo!! Now I can read what I could not just hours earlier.


Terry, if your iOS is updated, once signed in to the app, go to the bottom of 
the screen, where there are five tabs. The left most one is “Home.” Double tap 
that.  In the next screen, the top line says, “Find items by scanning product 
bar codes.”
Across from that is “home”
And on the right, “Shopping cart.”
I double tapped there and then I could read my order. 


HTH

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:15 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just curious what version of iOS you are using, I don't have any problem 
> reading what is in my cart in the grocery app at all. I just did an order a 
> few days ago and it worked really well. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Terry Nord  wrote:
>> 
>> The Sam’s Club app does the same thing. It will give you the item number but 
>> no description. If you want descriptions in your card you have to do it 
>> online at Sam’s Club.com. And that presents all kinds of problems too. You 
>> can work around it but it’s a mess.
>> 
>> Terry Nord
>> Ask me about healthy chocolate! 
>> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to! 
>> ternor...@gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
>> 
>> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
>> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
>> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to 
>> my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. 
>> I see a table with headings like,
>> Item Description, 
>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
>> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
>> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>> 
>> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 
>> 
>> Sandy
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
>> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
>> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to 
>> my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. 
>> I see a table with headings like,
>> Item Description, 
>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
>> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
>> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>> 
>> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 
>> 
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Hanging With Friends Will Be Shutting Down

[MamaPeach]

Not sure how many of you play the IOS/Android/Facebook game Hanging With 
Friends, but Zynga has announced that as of March 26, 2018, the game will be 
discontinued. I found this out by going to my profile in the Hanging With 
Friends app on my IOS device, and then double tapping on Help, it is listed 
under the Announcements heading. I have played this game for many many years 
and am very unhappy that it will no longer be available. I guess it is like 
everything else though, things come and things go.

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RE: Webber Grill app again

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

Yes, I think you have the right one?  It must have gotten updated about a week 
or so ago.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kay Malmquist
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Webber Grill app again

 

Are you talking about the old iGrill app that is now owned by Webber?  When was 
your last update?  We are going to check ours out.  Just out of curiosity, what 
is the name of your app?  The last time we used it, it was almost impossible to 
use.  We could get to the probe temperatures, but that was all.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com  

 

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"No matter what your temperament is now, gratitude will give you more patience, 
understanding, compassion, and kindness."

 

— Rhonda Byrne
 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Sweeney   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:30 PM

Subject: Webber Grill app again

 

Hi All,

Just tried the Webber app again and it works.  Looks like they fixed the issues 
we were having getting it to work.  I was able to choose everything and keep 
track of the probe temp again.

-Steve

 

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RE: Webber Grill app again

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

I have.  It works fine in an oven or pot.

-Steve

 

 

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Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Webber Grill app again

 

Now that the app is apparently working, I am curious about the mini. What I 
actually want to use it for is not a grilling thing at all. I would like to be 
able to keep track of the temperature of meat cooking in the slow cooker or in 
a slow oven. Not necessarily a lot of room in there in my slow cooker for a 
chicken and a pro, but I haven’t seen the probe. Has anybody used this device 
in that context with something in a slow cooker?
Mary

 

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On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Steve Sweeney  > wrote:

Hi,

I also use the Mini.  I think it is the igrill 9000 or something like that.

The only problem is the little sleeve they put on the probe to hold it I’m 
guessing gets really hot.  I’m looking for a heat resistant tape or something 
to replace it with.

-Steve

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Webber Grill app again

 

I’m not Steve, but it depends on how many things you want to keep track of at 
the same time.

 

I only need to track one item, so I bought the iGrill Mini for about $40.00.

 

They make them with multiple probes if you want to track more items.

 

Amazon seems like a good place to check.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Ulrich
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Webber Grill app again

 

Hey Steve, which Weber smart grill temperature probe do you suggest? Looking 
forward to your response. Thanks! Mike

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!

 


On Feb 11, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Steve Sweeney  > wrote:

Hi All,

Just tried the Webber app again and it works.  Looks like they fixed the issues 
we were having getting it to work.  I was able to choose everything and keep 
track of the probe temp again.

-Steve

 

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Re: HomePod

[hannah day]

Hi yes this is true as i've recieved one today and love it so far 



> On 10 Feb 2018, at 18:46, Peter Logan  wrote:
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> limited touchscreen accessible… Kudos to Apple!
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RE: iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think, CNET

[joedinero68]

Interesting article and I agree with a lot of things in it. I started with a 4s 
and every 2 years have done an upgrade andthis year I gave it a pass because 
the bells and whistles were a little light in volume and I didn’t hear them 
LOL…the iPhone X was just not happening $1000 for  phone…don’t think so almost 
got tempted at Black Friday but stayed strong this year I will probably make an 
upgrade  but right now nothing is exciting in new developments. Obviously this 
is my personal opinion .

 

Joe

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Panarese
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think, CNET

 

   I know, off the top of my head, seven people using the iPhone X, including 
my sister, brother in-law and cousin, and they all have told me they love it. A 
couple had to get used to the lack of a home button and complained about it the 
first few weeks, but it doesn't bother them any more.

 


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On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:23 AM, David Moore  > wrote:

 

I am very happy with my iPhone seven, and do not plan to change quickly. I 
installed iOS 11, and love it!

I know that with the X, you can press the bar on the right side, but I feel 
that the home button is the Stand out feature of the iPhone!

David Moore

Sent from   Mail for Windows 10

 

From:   M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:32 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think, CNET

 

iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think

Commentary: Some experts believe iPhone hasn't captured people's

imagination. So I went to the Gulf Coast of Florida to find out.

By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 1:00 PM PST

 

Not the smartphone of everyone's future?

What are people supposed to think?

On Apple's recent earnings call, CEO Tim Cook reported slightly reduced

iPhone sales numbers, but he insisted the iPhone X was outselling all other

iPhones.

He omitted, though, to offer any actual number for X sales. Some experts

fear the phone simply doesn't inspire.

 

I thought it wise, then, to go and talk to real people.

When the iPhone X was first announced, I wandered through Northern and

Southern California and pestered restaurant servers, bartenders, store

clerks, well, anyone in retail who was prepared to make eye contact. I asked

what they thought of the upcoming smartphone of the future.

 

They seemed a touch underwhelmed at the time.

This time, I went to the Gulf Coast of Florida, around Fort Myers, and spent

three days performing the very same acts of pestering the very same sorts of

people.

Now that the iPhone X is a living, breathing animal in the community, do

people covet it? Is there something stopping them from buying it?

 

It's a nice phone -- just that -- a nice phone

My first illumination came from a server in a really quite fancy restaurant.

He had a first generation Pixel and adored it with a passion that appeared

almost unnatural.

 

Soon, though, I understood why.

 

"I build my own computers," he said. "I've done it since I was a kid. My

latest is water-cooled."

Ah, cool. So what about iPhone X?

"I had the first iPhone, but then I went Android," he said.

"Why would you do that?"

"Because it syncs with Windows."

I'm not sure I've ever heard any human being utter those words. It made me

instinctively reach for my very pleasant Lebanese red wine and take an

unseemly gulp.

"Yes, but what about iPhone X?" I asked

"Don't get me wrong, it's a nice-looking phone. But there's nothing amazing

about it. Most of my friends have iPhones. They're for simple people."

 

At another restaurant, an 18-year-old bartender told me she had an iPhone 7.

"Would you want an X?"

"My stepsister has one," she said.

"Your stepsister? How old's she?"

"Thirteen."

"A thirteen-year-old has an iPhone X?"

"Yeah, her mom bought it."

"And is it great?"

"It's OK. I think Androids are better, but I'm sucked into my Apple laptop

and my iTunes and everything works together."

"But would you buy an iPhone X?" I persisted.

"I'm not spending $1,000 on a phone," she said.

It could be, indeed, that the price really does have a psychological effect

RE: The Olympics

[llumpkin]

Strange. I find the roku audio guide completely accessible for what I do. Also, 
all of the Olympics are not audio described, just the prime-time segment here 
from 7 to 10 ppm central time here.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brent Harding
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Olympics

 

I am getting description on my Sharp Roku TV using Spectrum's channel for it, 
but I would be able to also get it on the iOS app also. I just wish Spectrum 
would use Apple TV instead of Roku for their accessibility solution, as Roku 
and audio guide has its querks at times.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Baracco   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 9:17 PM

Subject: Re: The Olympics

 

I have a friend in southwest FL who has Xfinity, and she said that she is 
getting the AD through her TV but not her phone.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:28 PM

Subject: The Olympics

 

For those who might be interested, the Olympics are being audio described on 
NBC. We have XFinity cable and it comes through both on the TV, and through 
their Stream app.
Richard

 

 

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Re: iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think, CNET

[John Panarese]

   I know, off the top of my head, seven people using the iPhone X, including 
my sister, brother in-law and cousin, and they all have told me they love it. A 
couple had to get used to the lack of a home button and complained about it the 
first few weeks, but it doesn't bother them any more.


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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:23 AM, David Moore  wrote:
> 
> I am very happy with my iPhone seven, and do not plan to change quickly. I 
> installed iOS 11, and love it!
> I know that with the X, you can press the bar on the right side, but I feel 
> that the home button is the Stand out feature of the iPhone!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10
>  
> From: M. Taylor 
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think, CNET
>  
> iPhone X a disappointment? Here's what real people think
> Commentary: Some experts believe iPhone hasn't captured people's
> imagination. So I went to the Gulf Coast of Florida to find out.
> By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 1:00 PM PST
>  
> Not the smartphone of everyone's future?
> What are people supposed to think?
> On Apple's recent earnings call, CEO Tim Cook reported slightly reduced
> iPhone sales numbers, but he insisted the iPhone X was outselling all other
> iPhones.
> He omitted, though, to offer any actual number for X sales. Some experts
> fear the phone simply doesn't inspire.
>  
> I thought it wise, then, to go and talk to real people.
> When the iPhone X was first announced, I wandered through Northern and
> Southern California and pestered restaurant servers, bartenders, store
> clerks, well, anyone in retail who was prepared to make eye contact. I asked
> what they thought of the upcoming smartphone of the future.
>  
> They seemed a touch underwhelmed at the time.
> This time, I went to the Gulf Coast of Florida, around Fort Myers, and spent
> three days performing the very same acts of pestering the very same sorts of
> people.
> Now that the iPhone X is a living, breathing animal in the community, do
> people covet it? Is there something stopping them from buying it?
>  
> It's a nice phone -- just that -- a nice phone
> My first illumination came from a server in a really quite fancy restaurant.
> He had a first generation Pixel and adored it with a passion that appeared
> almost unnatural.
>  
> Soon, though, I understood why.
>  
> "I build my own computers," he said. "I've done it since I was a kid. My
> latest is water-cooled."
> Ah, cool. So what about iPhone X?
> "I had the first iPhone, but then I went Android," he said.
> "Why would you do that?"
> "Because it syncs with Windows."
> I'm not sure I've ever heard any human being utter those words. It made me
> instinctively reach for my very pleasant Lebanese red wine and take an
> unseemly gulp.
> "Yes, but what about iPhone X?" I asked
> "Don't get me wrong, it's a nice-looking phone. But there's nothing amazing
> about it. Most of my friends have iPhones. They're for simple people."
>  
> At another restaurant, an 18-year-old bartender told me she had an iPhone 7.
> "Would you want an X?"
> "My stepsister has one," she said.
> "Your stepsister? How old's she?"
> "Thirteen."
> "A thirteen-year-old has an iPhone X?"
> "Yeah, her mom bought it."
> "And is it great?"
> "It's OK. I think Androids are better, but I'm sucked into my Apple laptop
> and my iTunes and everything works together."
> "But would you buy an iPhone X?" I persisted.
> "I'm not spending $1,000 on a phone," she said.
> It could be, indeed, that the price really does have a psychological effect
> on people. I asked her how much she'd paid for her iPhone 7.
> "800 bucks."
> iPhone X? It's no big deal
>  
> I inveigle more people in the bar to reveal their phone religions. (I do it
> gently, I promise.)
> It was evenly split between iPhone and Android. But not one person said the
> words that I'd imagine Apple would most like to hear: "The X is a dream
> phone. I wish I could have one."
>  
> The more people I talked to, the more I realized that, regardless of which
> phone they had, they liked it. Really liked it.
>  
> A woman sat down next to me and furiously swiped and prodded her Galaxy S7.
> "I'm a juggler," she explained.
> "Oh, that must be an amusing job."
> "No, I juggle between Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat."
> She turned out to be a bartender at a local strip club -- "a nice one" --
> and explained that she constantly communicates with friends on several
> social platforms. Her S7, she said, was perfect for that.
> And 

Re: New list, now with correct address

[Anthony Vece]

Everybody makes mistakes.

Don’t worry about it.



> On Feb 12, 2018, at 5:23 AM, christopher hallsworth  
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> Good morning to the list.
> I am ashamed at this, but I have given you all the incorrect address to 
> subscribe to my new list dedicated to the Homepod. No wonder we've not have 
> many members. Lol! Sorry about that. Now here is the correct address, and I 
> have double checked with this the group's home page, reading character by 
> character with VoiceOver on my iPhone 6s. It is
> homepodding+subscr...@groups.io 
> Thank you very much, I look forward to seeing you there.
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Moving by Tabs in Safari

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 Is it possible to move from one tab to another in Safari without opening the 
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Re: message for chris

[Janet Bell]

Hi Chris I have just seen your new link so have hopefully subscribed.  Janet

From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: message for chris

Ok, no worries, do you want me to send you an invite or add you directly using 
your email address? Thanks for contacting me off list by the way, as requested. 
Greatly appreciated. Anyway, thanks in advance for any responses.

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Re: message for chris

[Janet Bell]

Hi Chris If I managed to contact you off list then it was a fluke.  The email 
address that this mesage comes from is my main email address.  If you can join 
me up so to speak I would be very grateful.  Janet

From: christopher hallsworth 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: message for chris

Ok, no worries, do you want me to send you an invite or add you directly using 
your email address? Thanks for contacting me off list by the way, as requested. 
Greatly appreciated. Anyway, thanks in advance for any responses.

On 12 Feb 2018, at 09:42, Janet Bell  wrote:


  Hi Chris, I have tried to subscribe to your list homepod but it is failing to 
go.  Haven’t got pone just interested to learn about them.  Janet
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Re: Walmart Grocery App

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

You are correct that there is much more online, however it surprises me that 
you can't read what is in your cart in the grocery app. I can read exactly what 
is in my cart, as well as the price.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:51 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> I am not Terry, but he is using IOS 11.  He just made an order and when he 
> went in to the cart, all that was there was item numbers.  When he went on 
> line it was much better .  Besides, in the app there was not as many items 
> and for example, when he was in the app, he went to the cheese section and 
> it said no items available.  That is crazy.  On line, there was a bunch of 
> items in that section, as there should have been.
> 
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Roger Frischenmeyer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Walmart Grocery App
> 
> 
> Just curious what version of iOS you are using, I don't have any problem 
> reading what is in my cart in the grocery app at all. I just did an order a 
> few days ago and it worked really well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Terry Nord  wrote:
>> 
>> The Sam's Club app does the same thing. It will give you the item number 
>> but no description. If you want descriptions in your card you have to do 
>> it online at Sam's Club.com. And that presents all kinds of problems too. 
>> You can work around it but it's a mess.
>> 
>> Terry Nord
>> Ask me about healthy chocolate!
>> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to!
>> ternor...@gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Sandra E. Finley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
>> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
>> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them 
>> to my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the 
>> cart. I see a table with headings like,
>> Item Description,
>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
>> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
>> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>> 
>> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS.
>> 
>> Sandy
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
>> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
>> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them 
>> to my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the 
>> cart. I see a table with headings like,
>> Item Description,
>> Subtotal,
>> Unit Price.
>> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
>> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>> 
>> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS.
>> 
>> Sandy
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Re: Walmart Grocery App

[Kay Malmquist]

I am not Terry, but he is using IOS 11.  He just made an order and when he 
went in to the cart, all that was there was item numbers.  When he went on 
line it was much better .  Besides, in the app there was not as many items 
and for example, when he was in the app, he went to the cheese section and 
it said no items available.  That is crazy.  On line, there was a bunch of 
items in that section, as there should have been.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Frischenmeyer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: Walmart Grocery App


Just curious what version of iOS you are using, I don't have any problem 
reading what is in my cart in the grocery app at all. I just did an order a 
few days ago and it worked really well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Terry Nord  wrote:
>
> The Sam's Club app does the same thing. It will give you the item number 
> but no description. If you want descriptions in your card you have to do 
> it online at Sam's Club.com. And that presents all kinds of problems too. 
> You can work around it but it's a mess.
>
> Terry Nord
> Ask me about healthy chocolate!
> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to!
> ternor...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Sandra E. Finley  
> wrote:
>
> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them 
> to my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the 
> cart. I see a table with headings like,
> Item Description,
> Subtotal,
> Unit Price.
> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>
> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS.
>
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them 
> to my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the 
> cart. I see a table with headings like,
> Item Description,
> Subtotal,
> Unit Price.
> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
>
> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS.
>
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
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New list, now with correct address

[christopher hallsworth]

Good morning to the list.
I am ashamed at this, but I have given you all the incorrect address to 
subscribe to my new list dedicated to the Homepod. No wonder we've not have 
many members. Lol! Sorry about that. Now here is the correct address, and I 
have double checked with this the group's home page, reading character by 
character with VoiceOver on my iPhone 6s. It is
homepodding+subscr...@groups.io
Thank you very much, I look forward to seeing you there.

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Re: New list was Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

[christopher hallsworth]

Ok, I will look into this, since I've had quite a few comments on this. Thanks 
for being patient with me.

> On 12 Feb 2018, at 08:54, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Every email account I tried to send from subscribe to this new list received 
> a delivery failure notification. Puzzling. Harry
> 
>> On 12 Feb 2018, at 07:34, christopher hallsworth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Following on this thread, I have changed the subject to reflect what I'm 
>> about to post.
>> For those who are interested in the Homepod, are due to receive one or 
>> received one already, I invite you to join my new list with dedication to 
>> the Homepod. I did this to try and prevent the bashing between that and 
>> rivals like Amazon Echo and Google Home to name but a few. So, if 
>> interested, please send an email to
>> homepoding+subscr...@groups.io
>> Alternatively you can request an off list invite or an off list request to 
>> add you directly using your email address.
>> Thanks in advance for joining, I look forward to seeing you on there.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2018, at 07:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why on earth they wouldn't make it a standard plug-in cable like on the 
>>> Apple TV which happens to be the same as any Sonos player is beyond me.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET
>>> 
>>> I saw online that the repair for the HomePod cable is $29. 
>>> Aleeha 
>>> 
 On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning
 Commentary: When you buy Apple's new musically smart speaker, you're 
 told to be very careful with it or it'll really cost you.
 By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 9:30 AM PST
 
 It really is quite pretty.
 Andrew Hoyle/CNET
 It was such a sunny day in Northern California on Friday.
 Little did I know that it would be clouded by portents of doom. 
 After all, I was wandering along to my local Apple store in Marin 
 County to pick up an Apple HomePod on launch day.
 I'd never bought a first-generation Apple product before, preferring 
 the company to iron out kinks before I give it my louchely earned lucre.
 For utterly irrational reasons, I felt good about the HomePod. 
 Yes, it's expensive. But I couldn't bear the idea of a Google Home or 
 Amazon Echo -- aka the salt cellar and the garbage can -- in the 
 house. Aesthetics, you understand. (I can feel you pitying me.) I 
 presented the QR code kindly texted me by Apple that morning and the 
 store employee, a rather positive sort, insisted I'd be so very, very 
 excited about getting my new toy.
 "We've been playing with it here all morning and the sound fills the 
 whole store. It's incredible," he said.
 "Incredible sounds good," I thought to myself. "But is that better 
 than, say, magical and revolutionary?" It's hard to tell with Apple's 
 constant embrace of superlatives.
 We chatted pleasantly for a little while, as we waited for the HomePod 
 to emerge from the back.
 But when it did arrive, the atmosphere changed.
 "Now I have to warn you," the store employee began. Oh. 
 "The cable is permanently attached to the HomePod. If you rip it, 
 it'll cost you almost as much as the HomePod itself to repair," he 
 said. (Naturally, someone has already tried to rip it off.) I didn't 
 have time to react, as he continued: "A pet or a vacuum cleaner 
 catches it, and it'll be really expensive."
 I insisted I had neither of these things.
 He barely listened and added: "Unless you've got AppleCare."
 Aha. 
 The math is painful. The HomePod costs $350. Repairing it costs $279, 
 as revealed by Apple support -- and my Apple store salesman -- on Friday.
 As for AppleCare+ for HomePod, which extends your coverage to two 
 years, that's $39.
 The Apple store employee admitted that he was duty-bound to lay out 
 his fears for my gadget-caring inadequacies.
 It is, though, rare for a product to cost almost as much to repair as 
 to buy. Repair costs for Apple products are going up, though. The cost 
 of repairing an iPhone X screen? Why, $279.
 In the case of the HomePod, unless you have AppleCare+, why wouldn't 
 you just buy a new one, rather than wait an unspecified period for 
 your own to be repaired?
 Apple didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. It's 
 likely, however, that the high cost of repair is linked to the fact 
 that the product is one whole piece, with seemingly no place of entry to 
 outsiders at all.
 The mesh of 

Re: Walmart Grocery App

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

Just curious what version of iOS you are using, I don't have any problem 
reading what is in my cart in the grocery app at all. I just did an order a few 
days ago and it worked really well. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 9:20 PM, Terry Nord  wrote:
> 
> The Sam’s Club app does the same thing. It will give you the item number but 
> no description. If you want descriptions in your card you have to do it 
> online at Sam’s Club.com. And that presents all kinds of problems too. You 
> can work around it but it’s a mess.
> 
> Terry Nord
> Ask me about healthy chocolate! 
> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to! 
> ternor...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Sandra E. Finley  wrote:
> 
> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to 
> my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. I 
> see a table with headings like,
> Item Description, 
> Subtotal,
> Unit Price.
> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
> 
> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 
> 
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Our local Walmart will put an order of groceries together if ordered in 
> advance; I can pick up with a friend or the local transit shuttle if my 
> husband  is out of town. I am able to find the items I want and add them to 
> my cart. The problem comes when I  try to read what I have Put in the cart. I 
> see a table with headings like,
> Item Description, 
> Subtotal,
> Unit Price.
> I cannot read the text of the items in the table. My husband verifies that 
> text is, indeed, there. Why can I read table headings but not table text?
> 
> IPhone 7 with fully updated iOS. 
> 
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: message for chris

[christopher hallsworth]

Ok, no worries, do you want me to send you an invite or add you directly using 
your email address? Thanks for contacting me off list by the way, as requested. 
Greatly appreciated. Anyway, thanks in advance for any responses.

> On 12 Feb 2018, at 09:42, Janet Bell  wrote:
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> Hi Chris, I have tried to subscribe to your list homepod but it is failing to 
> go.  Haven’t got pone just interested to learn about them.  Janet
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message for chris

[Janet Bell]

Hi Chris, I have tried to subscribe to your list homepod but it is failing to 
go.  Haven’t got pone just interested to learn about them.  Janet

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RE: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

[David Moore]

Wow, That is expensive.
I must know that the Homepod is much better than the rivals for the price to be 
that much LOL!
I will not move from my iPhone seven for a long time LOL!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

Why on earth they wouldn't make it a standard plug-in cable like on the Apple 
TV which happens to be the same as any Sonos player is beyond me.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Aleeha 
Dudley
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

I saw online that the repair for the HomePod cable is $29. 
Aleeha 

> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning
> Commentary: When you buy Apple's new musically smart speaker, you're 
> told to be very careful with it or it'll really cost you.
> By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 9:30 AM PST
> 
> It really is quite pretty.
> Andrew Hoyle/CNET
> It was such a sunny day in Northern California on Friday.
> Little did I know that it would be clouded by portents of doom. 
> After all, I was wandering along to my local Apple store in Marin 
> County to pick up an Apple HomePod on launch day.
> I'd never bought a first-generation Apple product before, preferring 
> the company to iron out kinks before I give it my louchely earned lucre.
> For utterly irrational reasons, I felt good about the HomePod. 
> Yes, it's expensive. But I couldn't bear the idea of a Google Home or 
> Amazon Echo -- aka the salt cellar and the garbage can -- in the 
> house. Aesthetics, you understand. (I can feel you pitying me.) I 
> presented the QR code kindly texted me by Apple that morning and the 
> store employee, a rather positive sort, insisted I'd be so very, very 
> excited about getting my new toy.
> "We've been playing with it here all morning and the sound fills the 
> whole store. It's incredible," he said.
> "Incredible sounds good," I thought to myself. "But is that better 
> than, say, magical and revolutionary?" It's hard to tell with Apple's 
> constant embrace of superlatives.
> We chatted pleasantly for a little while, as we waited for the HomePod 
> to emerge from the back.
> But when it did arrive, the atmosphere changed.
> "Now I have to warn you," the store employee began. Oh. 
> "The cable is permanently attached to the HomePod. If you rip it, 
> it'll cost you almost as much as the HomePod itself to repair," he 
> said. (Naturally, someone has already tried to rip it off.) I didn't 
> have time to react, as he continued: "A pet or a vacuum cleaner 
> catches it, and it'll be really expensive."
> I insisted I had neither of these things.
> He barely listened and added: "Unless you've got AppleCare."
> Aha. 
> The math is painful. The HomePod costs $350. Repairing it costs $279, 
> as revealed by Apple support -- and my Apple store salesman -- on Friday.
> As for AppleCare+ for HomePod, which extends your coverage to two 
> years, that's $39.
> The Apple store employee admitted that he was duty-bound to lay out 
> his fears for my gadget-caring inadequacies.
> It is, though, rare for a product to cost almost as much to repair as 
> to buy. Repair costs for Apple products are going up, though. The cost 
> of repairing an iPhone X screen? Why, $279.
> In the case of the HomePod, unless you have AppleCare+, why wouldn't 
> you just buy a new one, rather than wait an unspecified period for 
> your own to be repaired?
> Apple didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. It's 
> likely, however, that the high cost of repair is linked to the fact 
> that the product is one whole piece, with seemingly no place of entry to 
> outsiders at all.
> The mesh of the device, though, will surely attract some 
> scratching-obsessed cats. Which, in my experience, is most cats. It'll 
> be fascinating to see whether there will be a sudden surge of cat-related 
> snafus.
> I walked out with my head hanging a little lower, worried about a 
> neighbor's cat wandering into our house. A few hours later, it 
> actually happened, as a lithe ginger cat sauntered in to look around. 
> (The front door's open when it's warm.) I want to end on an uplift, 
> however. Let's talk about the HomePod's cable.
> It's thick and study-looking. It doesn't look as if it will fray like, 
> well, every other Apple cable I've owned. It doesn't look easy to yank 
> off, even if you're an aggressive vacuum cleaner or a rabid cat.
> Why doesn't the person who designed this cable design all of Apple's others?
> I brought my HomePod home. It took but a minute to set up. It's 
> actually quite pretty and the sound is clear and strong. Although Siri 
> has already begun to protest that 

Re: New list was Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET

[Harry Bell]

Every email account I tried to send from subscribe to this new list received a 
delivery failure notification. Puzzling. Harry

> On 12 Feb 2018, at 07:34, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> Following on this thread, I have changed the subject to reflect what I'm 
> about to post.
> For those who are interested in the Homepod, are due to receive one or 
> received one already, I invite you to join my new list with dedication to the 
> Homepod. I did this to try and prevent the bashing between that and rivals 
> like Amazon Echo and Google Home to name but a few. So, if interested, please 
> send an email to
> homepoding+subscr...@groups.io
> Alternatively you can request an off list invite or an off list request to 
> add you directly using your email address.
> Thanks in advance for joining, I look forward to seeing you on there.
> 
> 
>> On 12 Feb 2018, at 07:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Why on earth they wouldn't make it a standard plug-in cable like on the 
>> Apple TV which happens to be the same as any Sonos player is beyond me.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Aleeha Dudley
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning, CNET
>> 
>> I saw online that the repair for the HomePod cable is $29. 
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:28 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went to pick up my Apple HomePod and got a dire warning
>>> Commentary: When you buy Apple's new musically smart speaker, you're 
>>> told to be very careful with it or it'll really cost you.
>>> By Chris Matyszczyk, February 11, 2018 9:30 AM PST
>>> 
>>> It really is quite pretty.
>>> Andrew Hoyle/CNET
>>> It was such a sunny day in Northern California on Friday.
>>> Little did I know that it would be clouded by portents of doom. 
>>> After all, I was wandering along to my local Apple store in Marin 
>>> County to pick up an Apple HomePod on launch day.
>>> I'd never bought a first-generation Apple product before, preferring 
>>> the company to iron out kinks before I give it my louchely earned lucre.
>>> For utterly irrational reasons, I felt good about the HomePod. 
>>> Yes, it's expensive. But I couldn't bear the idea of a Google Home or 
>>> Amazon Echo -- aka the salt cellar and the garbage can -- in the 
>>> house. Aesthetics, you understand. (I can feel you pitying me.) I 
>>> presented the QR code kindly texted me by Apple that morning and the 
>>> store employee, a rather positive sort, insisted I'd be so very, very 
>>> excited about getting my new toy.
>>> "We've been playing with it here all morning and the sound fills the 
>>> whole store. It's incredible," he said.
>>> "Incredible sounds good," I thought to myself. "But is that better 
>>> than, say, magical and revolutionary?" It's hard to tell with Apple's 
>>> constant embrace of superlatives.
>>> We chatted pleasantly for a little while, as we waited for the HomePod 
>>> to emerge from the back.
>>> But when it did arrive, the atmosphere changed.
>>> "Now I have to warn you," the store employee began. Oh. 
>>> "The cable is permanently attached to the HomePod. If you rip it, 
>>> it'll cost you almost as much as the HomePod itself to repair," he 
>>> said. (Naturally, someone has already tried to rip it off.) I didn't 
>>> have time to react, as he continued: "A pet or a vacuum cleaner 
>>> catches it, and it'll be really expensive."
>>> I insisted I had neither of these things.
>>> He barely listened and added: "Unless you've got AppleCare."
>>> Aha. 
>>> The math is painful. The HomePod costs $350. Repairing it costs $279, 
>>> as revealed by Apple support -- and my Apple store salesman -- on Friday.
>>> As for AppleCare+ for HomePod, which extends your coverage to two 
>>> years, that's $39.
>>> The Apple store employee admitted that he was duty-bound to lay out 
>>> his fears for my gadget-caring inadequacies.
>>> It is, though, rare for a product to cost almost as much to repair as 
>>> to buy. Repair costs for Apple products are going up, though. The cost 
>>> of repairing an iPhone X screen? Why, $279.
>>> In the case of the HomePod, unless you have AppleCare+, why wouldn't 
>>> you just buy a new one, rather than wait an unspecified period for 
>>> your own to be repaired?
>>> Apple didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. It's 
>>> likely, however, that the high cost of repair is linked to the fact 
>>> that the product is one whole piece, with seemingly no place of entry to 
>>> outsiders at all.
>>> The mesh of the device, though, will surely attract some 
>>> scratching-obsessed cats. Which, in my experience, is most cats. It'll 
>>> be fascinating to see whether there will be a sudden surge of cat-related 
>>> snafus.
>>> I walked out with my head hanging a little lower, worried