date:20190603

 There's a program  that we use that will back up your iphone and music and it 
works well.

Arlene

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Kwork

I agree. Let's not predict doom and gloom for Windows users. The truth
is that Apple hasn't said yet, and that will be the end of story for
now, accept it or not.

If iTunes will be in self destruct mode for Windows users, we'll have
plenty of time to come to terms with that, probably months.

If it happens, there will probably be multiple programs and apps to take
its place. Apple will let us know if/when, and not before then.

Travis

On 6/3/2019 6:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

I think it’s ridiculous to speculate when we don’t know what they’re doing.
They’re supposedly is an update for iTunes for windows, although I haven’t got
it yet. Anyway, I’m sure Apple does not want to kiss off a bunch of customers.
That wouldn’t seem to make much sense.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

If that’s true, that could backfire on Apple. Mac computers are expensive.
Why would people who use Windows switch to a Mac when they can switch to an
Android phone and use it with their Windows computer? Some Apple fanboys will,
but the average person just wants computers and phones to use for work and
entertainment at an affordable price.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. Sure,
they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some point, I
figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more sales of the
Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have iPhones and have
bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for phones that will work
with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend Sieghard and I disagreed on this
point a while ago, and so far he's been right, but I'm still thinking time will
prove me right eventually!

On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
it makes no monehy for Apple.

On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco wrote:
From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes. They have gradually been
replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
podcasts, etc. iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
just aren't using it. I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.

Andy

- Original Message -
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
Subject: apple killing ITunes?

My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
program. Anyone heard anything?

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Aleeha Dudley

All, 
This article proves it’s useless to speculate and much more helpful to wait on 
answers. It appears that iTunes for Windows will be staying around. It baffles 
me how much the blind community as a whole panics when any kind of change is 
proposed. Anyway, here’s the article.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/06/answers-to-some-of-your-itunes-questions-old-libraries-windows-and-more/

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:03 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> I enjoy being able to make my own ringtones, and I hope I am still
> able to. It wouldn't surprise me if apple broke this on windows. After
> all mac is where they want people but we will see. I have a macbook
> but I do most things in windows.
> 
> On 6/3/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> Oh come on. Stop.
>> This is just wild and I mean "wild" speculation.
>> I mean, Smart TVs are starting to get Apple TV apps built into them, but
>> sure... Apple's going to at the same time cut off an entire market of
>> Windows users just cuzz...
>> There's already an iTunes app for the Windows store. They'll probably
>> announce something later in the summer for Windows. Be it Continued Windows
>> desktop support, new Windows store apps, but I seriously, seriously doubt
>> they're going to just say ... bye Felicia to Windows period.
>> Either way, it's all just speculation. Let's just wait and see on what they
>> actually do.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?
>> 
>> My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows.
>> Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some
>> point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more
>> sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have
>> iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for
>> phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend
>> Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so far he's been
>> right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right eventually!
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>> 
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
 been replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as
 music, podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to
 hate, and ever since Apple has offered the ability to download
 content via WIFI folks just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC
 but for years the only thing i have used it for was to make backups
 of my phone, and I will miss having that ability, even though I guess you
 can use iCloud for that purpose.
 
 Andy
 
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
   Subject: apple killing ITunes?
 
 
   My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple
 planned to kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone
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If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so
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Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the
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RE: Questions regarding Ebooks

Yup. I too have the old version of Kindle for PC, but at this point, I rarely 
find myself having to use it with Codex. Either Bookshare or audio, but mainly 
if I want an eBook, I can usually score it from the library via Overdrive. At 
first I was downloading in Kindle format via the Amazon partnership with 
libraries until I realized that more often than not, you can download the same 
title in ePub format as well cutting out that entire process.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Ebooks

 

 

Sorry for confusing you. 

He has not updated Codex; so I have a link to an older version of Kindle for PC.

I only use Kindle to convert books so I can read them in Voice Dream Reader, so 
I really don't care if the Kindle for PC is any good so long as I can download 
the books and convert them.

Granted, I do that very seldom because I usually find what I want on Bookshare; 
or in an audio version.

Richard

 

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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

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any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:21 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi richard,
Do you mean that you have a link to a newer version of Kodex that works with 
the accessible Kindle? Or do you mean that you have a link to an accessible 
version of Kindle that should work? I know that Amazon for a long time said 
they had an accessible version of Kindle, but it was horrible. Then they came 
out with the new accessible version of Kindle, which is much better. I would 
hate to give that up, and I know at the time it was stated that the codex 
wouldn’t work with that. So I’m kind of confused.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


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Mary, 

On my web site, under the Useful Apps link, I have a link to the accessible 
version of Kindle that should work.

I probably need to uninstall and reinstall to make sure.

Richard

 

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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


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Richard,
It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not work 
with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? If so, 
I would really like details.

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Here is a slightly long answer. 

You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.

If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.

If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the 
books are available through Bookshare.org 

 .

Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.

HTH,

Richard

 

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The most common way people give

Re: apple killing ITunes?

Mary, that message is from Wayne, I meant to put his name at the end of the 
message. I hope that you and others that have your music collections will have 
time to copy your music.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

  Somebody on another list claims that nothing is going to change on the window 
side. But I don’t necessarily know where they got that. As for the encrypted 
backup, I quit using it when they added all the stuff to iCloud that used to be 
only in the encrypted backup. That plus the fact that you couldn’t back up all 
apps anymore was enough to make iTunes more less useless for any sort of phone 
back up for me. What I want to know is what happens with iTunes match? I have a 
lot of music in the cloud that I ripped for my own CDs and was matched in 
iTunes match. Some of that music is not on the Apple Music store or music 
service I should say. And they’re telling me my match subscription is up for 
renewal this month. Are they going to take my 25 bucks and then kill it? I 
wonder how I find that out, and what happens to all that music that I owned and 
ripped and now lives on an old Mac and in my music library in the cloud through 
match.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 3, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
handled outside of using it on the Mac.
I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items 
if doing it from windows.

I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud 
now, taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as 
being only able to update your device over wi-fi.
My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just a 
thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Chris

On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:

  Hi, 

  Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about 
Apple whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news 
letter, so I Googled this.  

  Janet 

  Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say

  By 

  Chris Ciaccia

  | Fox News

  Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3

  Just a few months after it became an adult, 

  Apple

  is killing off one of its most controversial creations.

  Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and 
movie media player, iTunes, according to 

  Bloomberg.

  The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had 
been widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple 
Music

  and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.

  The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it 
easy to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song

  or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had 
outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly 
endless

  string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

  APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING

  To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, 
TV and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, 
which

  already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.

  Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. 
Both the 

  Instagram

  and the 

  Facebook

  page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.

  As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it 
has turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more 
than

  50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
songs for $9.99 a month.

  In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new 
updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health 
features

  are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a 
revamped Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to 
music or

  movies on their device or headphones.

  Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the 
strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.

  Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when 
its keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.

  Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry

Re: apple killing ITunes?

I don't know, but unfortunately you were relying on icloud and apple to take 
care of all of that. As a professional and owner of alldigital audio
www.alldigitalaudio.com
we'd never would relie on out of house solutions because any of them could 
change at any time. The recomendation is to keep your own backups in  a safe 
place, at least 2 copies of everything, besides having your collection stored 
on something like icloud. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 5:53 PM
  Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

  Somebody on another list claims that nothing is going to change on the window 
side. But I don’t necessarily know where they got that. As for the encrypted 
backup, I quit using it when they added all the stuff to iCloud that used to be 
only in the encrypted backup. That plus the fact that you couldn’t back up all 
apps anymore was enough to make iTunes more less useless for any sort of phone 
back up for me. What I want to know is what happens with iTunes match? I have a 
lot of music in the cloud that I ripped for my own CDs and was matched in 
iTunes match. Some of that music is not on the Apple Music store or music 
service I should say. And they’re telling me my match subscription is up for 
renewal this month. Are they going to take my 25 bucks and then kill it? I 
wonder how I find that out, and what happens to all that music that I owned and 
ripped and now lives on an old Mac and in my music library in the cloud through 
match.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 3, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
handled outside of using it on the Mac.
I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items 
if doing it from windows.

I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud 
now, taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as 
being only able to update your device over wi-fi.
My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just a 
thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Chris

On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:

  Hi, 

  Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about 
Apple whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news 
letter, so I Googled this.  

  Janet 

  Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say

  By 

  Chris Ciaccia

  | Fox News

  Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3

  Just a few months after it became an adult, 

  Apple

  is killing off one of its most controversial creations.

  Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and 
movie media player, iTunes, according to 

  Bloomberg.

  The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had 
been widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple 
Music

  and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.

  The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it 
easy to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song

  or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had 
outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly 
endless

  string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

  APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING

  To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, 
TV and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, 
which

  already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.

  Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. 
Both the 

  Instagram

  and the 

  Facebook

  page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.

  As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it 
has turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more 
than

  50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
songs for $9.99 a month.

  In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new 
updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health 
features

  are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a 
revamped Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to 
music or

  movies on their device or headphones.

  Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the 
strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.

  Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will

Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

2019-06-03 Thread Gerardo Corripio

I’d go with at least a 7 or 8. If you got an SE, it’d only update the iOS until 
July/August of next year. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 3 jun 2019, a la(s) 8:25 p. m., Jewel  escribió:

> Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you advise 
> as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please:  
> pretty please!
>  
>Jewel
> 
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13
> 
> These are the devices that will support iOS 13:
> 
> iPhone XS
> iPhone XS Max
> iPhone XR
> iPhone X
> iPhone 8
> iPhone 8 Plus
> iPhone 7
> iPhone 7 Plus
> iPhone 6s
> iPhone 6s Plus
> iPhone SE
> iPod touch (7th generation)
> In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
> the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
> contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
> iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.
> 
> Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
> supported:
> 
> 12.9-inch iPad Pro
> 11-inch iPad Pro
> 10.5-inch iPad Pro
> 9.7-inch iPad Pro
> iPad (6th generation)
> iPad (5th generation)
> iPad mini (5th generation)
> iPad mini 4
> iPad Air (3rd generation)
> iPad Air 2
> This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
> 3, as well as the original iPad Air. 
> 
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Re: Wi-Fi.

2019-06-03 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi Carolyn,

Have you tried resetting network settings? If that doesn't help, you might want 
to call Apple.

Best,
Anna




> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Got my phone on, Anna.
> 
> It still said oops, we've hit a bump. Try again in a few
> minutes. 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> If you pray, don't worry, if you worry, don't pray,
> 
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Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

2019-06-03 Thread lenron brown

The plus size phones are nicer to me anyways. That's the only reason I
started using IOS in 2015.

On 6/3/19, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> Richard, I'm curious, why would you go for an 8 plus over an 8.  I've
> seen a plus phone of some kind and I thought it was huge.
>
> On 6/3/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>
>> Jewel,
>> If you find this Fall that you really want to upgrade to have iOS 13,
>> then
>> I'd consider the 8 plus.
>> It still has the home button; and while larger, has great battery life,
>> and
>> should last through a few more iOS versions.
>> It does not have the 3.5 MM earphone jack; but nothing after the SE does'
>> so
>> you have to go with the lightning earphones or bluetooth anyway.
>> Besides, there will probably be another new phone this fall.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Check out my web site at:
>> www.turner42.com
>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The
>> knack
>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>
>>
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Cristobal Muñoz
>> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Not necessarily. It’s not like a 5S will just stop working or at least
>> stop
>> working with apps right away. Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will
>> probably drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll
>> likely be a while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the
>> impact.
>> If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to
>> upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that
>> the simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things
>> like
>> performance.
>> Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should
>> give
>> consideration to upgrading your phone period.
>> Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the
>> 6S
>> 6S+ and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year
>> older
>> got the axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14
>> next
>> year. If you follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years
>> of
>> OS life cycles with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are
>> beyond
>> your budget.
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Jewel
>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users
>> mailto:nz_vi_iphone_us...@yahoogroups.com>>
>> Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13
>>
>> Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you
>> advise as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible,
>> please:  pretty please!
>>
>>Jewel
>>
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM
>> To: ViPone list
>> Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13
>>
>>
>> These are the devices that will support iOS 13:
>>
>>
>>
>> iPhone XS
>>
>> iPhone XS Max
>>
>> iPhone XR
>>
>> iPhone X
>>
>> iPhone 8
>>
>> iPhone 8 Plus
>>
>> iPhone 7
>>
>> iPhone 7 Plus
>>
>> iPhone 6s
>>
>> iPhone 6s Plus
>>
>> iPhone SE
>>
>> iPod touch (7th generation)
>>
>> In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support
>> for
>> the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the
>> contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release.
>> The iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.
>>
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads
>> are
>> supported:
>>
>>
>>
>> 12.9-inch iPad Pro
>>
>> 11-inch iPad Pro
>>
>> 10.5-inch iPad Pro
>>
>> 9.7-inch iPad Pro
>>
>> iPad (6th generation)
>>
>> iPad (5th generation)
>>
>> iPad mini (5th generation)
>>
>> iPad mini 4
>>
>> iPad Air (3rd generation)
>>
>> iPad Air 2
>>
>> This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad
>> mini 3, as well as the original iPad Air.
>>
>>
>>
>> from:
>>
>> https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/
>>
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread lenron brown

I enjoy being able to make my own ringtones, and I hope I am still
able to. It wouldn't surprise me if apple broke this on windows. After
all mac is where they want people but we will see. I have a macbook
but I do most things in windows.

On 6/3/19, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> Oh come on. Stop.
> This is just wild and I mean "wild" speculation.
> I mean, Smart TVs are starting to get Apple TV apps built into them, but
> sure... Apple's going to at the same time cut off an entire market of
> Windows users just cuzz...
> There's already an iTunes app for the Windows store. They'll probably
> announce something later in the summer for Windows. Be it Continued Windows
> desktop support, new Windows store apps, but I seriously, seriously doubt
> they're going to just say ... bye Felicia to Windows period.
> Either way, it's all just speculation. Let's just wait and see on what they
> actually do.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?
>
> My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows.
> Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some
> point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more
> sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have
> iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for
> phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend
> Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so far he's been
> right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right eventually!
>
>
> On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>
>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>  From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
>>> been replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as
>>> music, podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to
>>> hate, and ever since Apple has offered the ability to download
>>> content via WIFI folks just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC
>>> but for years the only thing i have used it for was to make backups
>>> of my phone, and I will miss having that ability, even though I guess you
>>> can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: Larry Lumpkin
>>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>>Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>>
>>>
>>>My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple
>>> planned to kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone
>>> app or windows program. Anyone heard anything?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

2019-06-03 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

Richard, I'm curious, why would you go for an 8 plus over an 8.  I've
seen a plus phone of some kind and I thought it was huge.

On 6/3/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> Jewel,
> If you find this Fall that you really want to upgrade to have iOS 13, then
> I'd consider the 8 plus.
> It still has the home button; and while larger, has great battery life, and
> should last through a few more iOS versions.
> It does not have the 3.5 MM earphone jack; but nothing after the SE does' so
> you have to go with the lightning earphones or bluetooth anyway.
> Besides, there will probably be another new phone this fall.
> Richard
>
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Cristobal Muñoz
> mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Not necessarily. It’s not like a 5S will just stop working or at least stop
> working with apps right away. Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will
> probably drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll
> likely be a while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the
> impact.
> If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to
> upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that
> the simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things like
> performance.
> Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should give
> consideration to upgrading your phone period.
> Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the 6S
> 6S+ and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year older
> got the axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14 next
> year. If you follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years of
> OS life cycles with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are beyond
> your budget.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Jewel
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users
> mailto:nz_vi_iphone_us...@yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13
>
> Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you
> advise as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible,
> please:  pretty please!
>
>Jewel
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM
> To: ViPone list
> Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13
>
>
> These are the devices that will support iOS 13:
>
>
>
> iPhone XS
>
> iPhone XS Max
>
> iPhone XR
>
> iPhone X
>
> iPhone 8
>
> iPhone 8 Plus
>
> iPhone 7
>
> iPhone 7 Plus
>
> iPhone 6s
>
> iPhone 6s Plus
>
> iPhone SE
>
> iPod touch (7th generation)
>
> In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for
> the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the
> contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release.
> The iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are
> supported:
>
>
>
> 12.9-inch iPad Pro
>
> 11-inch iPad Pro
>
> 10.5-inch iPad Pro
>
> 9.7-inch iPad Pro
>
> iPad (6th generation)
>
> iPad (5th generation)
>
> iPad mini (5th generation)
>
> iPad mini 4
>
> iPad Air (3rd generation)
>
> iPad Air 2
>
> This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad
> mini 3, as well as the original iPad Air.
>
>
>
> from:
>
> https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/
>
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread Donna

If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so 
ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader. 

Donna
> 
> Hi,
> the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
> subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
> Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io
> Max.
>> On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
>> running?
>> 
>> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with 
>> your contact information and I will happily add you. 
>> maria.reye...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
>>> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
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Re: Questions regarding Ebooks


Sorry for confusing you.
He has not updated Codex; so I have a link to an older version of Kindle for PC.
I only use Kindle to convert books so I can read them in Voice Dream Reader, so 
I really don't care if the Kindle for PC is any good so long as I can download 
the books and convert them.
Granted, I do that very seldom because I usually find what I want on Bookshare; 
or in an audio version.
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:21 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi richard,
Do you mean that you have a link to a newer version of Kodex that works with 
the accessible Kindle? Or do you mean that you have a link to an accessible 
version of Kindle that should work? I know that Amazon for a long time said 
they had an accessible version of Kindle, but it was horrible. Then they came 
out with the new accessible version of Kindle, which is much better. I would 
hate to give that up, and I know at the time it was stated that the codex 
wouldn’t work with that. So I’m kind of confused.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Mary,
On my web site, under the Useful Apps link, I have a link to the accessible 
version of Kindle that should work.
I probably need to uninstall and reinstall to make sure.
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Richard,
It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not work 
with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? If so, 
I would really like details.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Here is a slightly long answer.
You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.
If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the 
books are available through 
Bookshare.org.
Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.
HTH,
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello everyone,


I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this,
and know nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because
there are some books that I want to read, that are not available in an
audio format.


Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?


Any information or help is very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13


Jewel,
If you find this Fall that you really want to upgrade to have iOS 13, then I'd 
consider the 8 plus.
It still has the home button; and while larger, has great battery life, and 
should last through a few more iOS versions.
It does not have the 3.5 MM earphone jack; but nothing after the SE does' so 
you have to go with the lightning earphones or bluetooth anyway.
Besides, there will probably be another new phone this fall.
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Cristobal Muñoz 
mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not necessarily. It’s not like a 5S will just stop working or at least stop 
working with apps right away. Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will probably 
drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll likely be a 
while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the impact.
If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to 
upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that the 
simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things like 
performance.
Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should give 
consideration to upgrading your phone period.
Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the 6S 6S+ 
and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year older got the 
axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14 next year. If you 
follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years of OS life cycles 
with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are beyond your budget.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users 
mailto:nz_vi_iphone_us...@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you advise 
as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please:  
pretty please!

   Jewel

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13


These are the devices that will support iOS 13:



iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE

iPod touch (7th generation)

In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.



Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
supported:



12.9-inch iPad Pro

11-inch iPad Pro

10.5-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro

iPad (6th generation)

iPad (5th generation)

iPad mini (5th generation)

iPad mini 4

iPad Air (3rd generation)

iPad Air 2

This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
3, as well as the original iPad Air.



from:

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/


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Re: Questions regarding Ebooks

Hi richard,
Do you mean that you have a link to a newer version of Kodex that works with 
the accessible Kindle? Or do you mean that you have a link to an accessible 
version of Kindle that should work? I know that Amazon for a long time said 
they had an accessible version of Kindle, but it was horrible. Then they came 
out with the new accessible version of Kindle, which is much better. I would 
hate to give that up, and I know at the time it was stated that the codex 
wouldn’t work with that. So I’m kind of confused.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mary,
> On my web site, under the Useful Apps link, I have a link to the accessible 
> version of Kindle that should work.
> I probably need to uninstall and reinstall to make sure.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Richard,
>> It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not 
>> work with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? 
>> If so, I would really like details.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Here is a slightly long answer.
>>> You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.
>>> If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
>>> application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.
>>> If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if 
>>> the books are available through Bookshare.org.
>>> Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
>>> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
>>> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>> 
>>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,

 I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this, 
 and know nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because 
 there are some books that I want to read, that are not available in an 
 audio format.

 Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

 Or would I need a different App than this?

 If so, what might some options be?

 And how accessible might the Apps be?

 Any information or help is very much appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Terri

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Re: Questions regarding Ebooks

Mary,
On my web site, under the Useful Apps link, I have a link to the accessible
version of Kindle that should work.
I probably need to uninstall and reinstall to make sure.
Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have
any." -- Alice Walker

On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Mary Otten
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Richard,
It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not work
with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? If so,
I would really like details.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Here is a slightly long answer.
You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.
If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an
application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the
books are available through
Bookshare.org.
Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.
HTH,
Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have
any." -- Alice Walker

On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Terri Stimmel
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?

Any information or help is very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

Not necessarily. It’s not like a 5S will just stop working or at least stop 
working with apps right away. Like with prior iOS upgrades, apps will probably 
drop support for older OS’s as time goes by and even then, it’ll likely be a 
while before you begin to notice it to where you’ll feel the impact. 

If iOS 12.3.1 is working ok for you, then it’s not like not being able to 
upgrade to V 13will be a huge loss. Honestly, at this point, I’d bet that the 
simple fact that you’re running a 5S is more the issue for things like 
performance.

Regardless of being able to upgrade or not to the new iOS, you should give 
consideration to upgrading your phone period.

Off hand, I’d say try to aim for at the very least a 7 or 7+. I know the 6S 6S+ 
and SE made the cut this time, but since the phones just one year older got the 
axe, I wouldn’t bet on these phones making the cut for iOS 14 next year. If you 
follow the trend, that would maybe give you two more years of OS life cycles 
with the 7 series to count on if the newer phones are beyond your budget.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: nz_vi_iphone_users 
Subject: Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

 

Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you advise 
as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please:  
pretty please!

 

   Jewel

 

From: Richard Turner   

Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM

To: ViPone list   

Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

 

These are the devices that will support iOS 13:

 

iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE

iPod touch (7th generation)

In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.

 

Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
supported:

 

12.9-inch iPad Pro

11-inch iPad Pro

10.5-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro

iPad (6th generation)

iPad (5th generation)

iPad mini (5th generation)

iPad mini 4

iPad Air (3rd generation)

iPad Air 2

This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
3, as well as the original iPad Air. 

 

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RE: apple killing ITunes?

Oh come on. Stop.
This is just wild and I mean "wild" speculation. 
I mean, Smart TVs are starting to get Apple TV apps built into them, but 
sure... Apple's going to at the same time cut off an entire market of Windows 
users just cuzz...
There's already an iTunes app for the Windows store. They'll probably announce 
something later in the summer for Windows. Be it Continued Windows desktop 
support, new Windows store apps, but I seriously, seriously doubt they're going 
to just say ... bye Felicia to Windows period.
Either way, it's all just speculation. Let's just wait and see on what they 
actually do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. 
Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some point, I 
figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more sales of the 
Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have iPhones and have 
bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for phones that will work 
with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend Sieghard and I disagreed on this 
point a while ago, and so far he's been right, but I'm still thinking time will 
prove me right eventually!


On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had 
> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also 
> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store 
> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will 
> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but 
> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>
> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>  From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually 
>> been replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as 
>> music, podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to 
>> hate, and ever since Apple has offered the ability to download 
>> content via WIFI folks just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC 
>> but for years the only thing i have used it for was to make backups 
>> of my phone, and I will miss having that ability, even though I guess you 
>> can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Larry Lumpkin
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>
>>
>>My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple 
>> planned to kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone 
>> app or windows program. Anyone heard anything?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

I think it’s ridiculous to speculate when we don’t know what they’re doing. 
They’re supposedly is an update for iTunes for windows, although I haven’t got 
it yet. Anyway, I’m sure Apple does not want to kiss off a bunch of customers. 
That wouldn’t seem to make much sense.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> If that’s true, that could backfire on Apple.  Mac computers are expensive.  
> Why would people who use Windows switch to a Mac when they can switch to an 
> Android phone and use it with their Windows computer?  Some Apple fanboys 
> will, but the average person just wants computers and phones to use for work 
> and entertainment at an affordable price.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. 
>> Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some 
>> point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more 
>> sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have 
>> iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for 
>> phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend 
>> Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so far he's been 
>> right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right eventually!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>> 
 On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
 replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
 podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
 ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
 just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing 
 i
 have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
 that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
 
 Andy
 
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  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
  Subject: apple killing ITunes?
 
 
  My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
 kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
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Re: Questions regarding Ebooks

Richard,
It was my understanding that the codex app that you referred to does not work 
with the current version of accessible Kindle for PC. Has that changed? If so, 
I would really like details.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> Here is a slightly long answer.
> You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.
> If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
> application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.
> If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the 
> books are available through Bookshare.org.
> Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.
> HTH,
> Richard
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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this, 
>> and know nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because 
>> there are some books that I want to read, that are not available in an 
>> audio format.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?
>> 
>> Or would I need a different App than this?
>> 
>> If so, what might some options be?
>> 
>> And how accessible might the Apps be?
>> 
>> 
>> Any information or help is very much appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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RE: Questions regarding Ebooks

2019-06-03 Thread Andrew

Hi Judy,
I have the free kindle app on my XR. Is there a setting or settings to change 
to read a Kindle.Best regards  andrew

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Holloway
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Questions regarding Ebooks

The free Kindle app for the iPhone works very well. You can read the books with 
VoiceOver or with a Braille display. You cannot read Kindle books in VoiceDream 
reader, however.

Thanks.

Judy

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Stimmel
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Ebooks

Hello everyone,

I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this, and know 
nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because there are some books 
that I want to read, that are not available in an audio format.

Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?

Any information or help is very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Aleeha Dudley

Folks, 
Apple is not going to kill of a program without providing an equal replacement. 
Here is what we know has been done: Apple has split what was iTunes for Mac, 
and only Mac right now, into Music, Podcasts, and TV. From what I understand, 
iTunes for Windows received an update today for its users to support the new 
betas, and it can still be downloaded from 
https://support.apple.com/downloads/itunes 

Even on the Mac, radio is not at all gone. It is still in the music app. 
Aleeha 

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Tim Leet  wrote:
> 
> Yes, my wife heard the same thing I really hope that’s not the case because 
> we use it on the computer to back up or iPhone and especially voice dream 
> reader. We have a big library and that’s the best way to back it up. Not sure 
> what we will do if it goes away.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Judy Holloway  > wrote:
> 
>> I think it's on the computer. I hope not, though, because I use the internet 
>> radio tuner portion of iTunes to listen to the radio on the computer all the 
>> time.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Judy
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > > On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>  
>> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
>> off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
>> Anyone heard anything?
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Re: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

2019-06-03 Thread Jewel

Does this mean that I will have to ditch my 5S?  If so, what would you advise 
as a replacement, with as small a new learning curve as possible, please:  
pretty please!

   Jewel

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2019 12:47 PM
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Subject: These are the devices that will support iOS 13

These are the devices that will support iOS 13:

iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE

iPod touch (7th generation)

In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.

Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
supported:

12.9-inch iPad Pro

11-inch iPad Pro

10.5-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro

iPad (6th generation)

iPad (5th generation)

iPad mini (5th generation)

iPad mini 4

iPad Air (3rd generation)

iPad Air 2

This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
3, as well as the original iPad Air. 

from:

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/

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RE: Questions regarding Ebooks

2019-06-03 Thread Judy Holloway

The free Kindle app for the iPhone works very well. You can read the books with 
VoiceOver or with a Braille display. You cannot read Kindle books in VoiceDream 
reader, however.

Thanks.

Judy


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Ebooks

Hello everyone,


I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this, and know 
nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because there are some books 
that I want to read, that are not available in an audio format.


Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?


Any information or help is very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Tim Leet

Yes, my wife heard the same thing I really hope that’s not the case because we 
use it on the computer to back up or iPhone and especially voice dream reader. 
We have a big library and that’s the best way to back it up. Not sure what we 
will do if it goes away.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Judy Holloway  wrote:
> 
> I think it's on the computer. I hope not, though, because I use the internet 
> radio tuner portion of iTunes to listen to the radio on the computer all the 
> time.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Judy
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>  
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> off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
> Anyone heard anything?
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Ryan Mann

If that’s true, that could backfire on Apple.  Mac computers are expensive.  
Why would people who use Windows switch to a Mac when they can switch to an 
Android phone and use it with their Windows computer?  Some Apple fanboys will, 
but the average person just wants computers and phones to use for work and 
entertainment at an affordable price.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. Sure, 
> they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some point, I 
> figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in more sales of 
> the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because they have iPhones and 
> have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of looking for phones that will 
> work with their Windows PC's. I know my good friend Sieghard and I disagreed 
> on this point a while ago, and so far he's been right, but I'm still thinking 
> time will prove me right eventually!
> 
> 
>> On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>> 
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
>>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
>>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
>>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Larry Lumpkin
>>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>   Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>>   Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Questions regarding Ebooks


Here is a slightly long answer.
You can use the Kindle app, which is free, to read the books.
If you have a Windows computer, you could also convert them using an 
application call Codex so they could be read in Voice Dream Reader.
If you don't have a Bookshare account, you might consider that and see if the 
books are available through Bookshare.org.
Bookshare is $50 per year for all the books you want.
HTH,
Richard


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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


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any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Terri Stimmel 
mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello everyone,


I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this,
and know nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because
there are some books that I want to read, that are not available in an
audio format.


Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?


Any information or help is very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Calorie counting app

2019-06-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain

If you're into the FitBit ecosystem, I remember that the FitBit app did 
some good accessible calorie calculating.



On 6/3/19 1:47 PM, r...@startmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I did a very brief search on the web site but didn’t see anything very 
recent on what calorie counting apps are accessible.  I’m especially 
interested in hearing any recent experiences with My Fitness Pal.


Thanks.

Ralph

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RE: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Judy Holloway

I think it's on the computer. I hope not, though, because I use the internet 
radio tuner portion of iTunes to listen to the radio on the computer all the 
time.

 

Thanks.

 

Judy

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple killing ITunes?

 

My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
Anyone heard anything?

 

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Questions regarding Ebooks

2019-06-03 Thread Terri Stimmel

Hello everyone,


I am considering purchasing some Kendal Ebooks. I've never done this, 
and know nothing as to how it works. But I want to do this, because 
there are some books that I want to read, that are not available in an 
audio format.


Anyway, I have Voice Dream Reader. will this work for Ebooks?

Or would I need a different App than this?

If so, what might some options be?

And how accessible might the Apps be?


Any information or help is very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: apple killing ITunes?

Hello All, 
Personally I don't think Apple gives a fly about Windows, and let's face it, we 
can't blame them for that.  As far as losing sales from Apple music subscribers 
or iPhones, I doubt that very much.  I am an Apple music subscriber, as well as 
a iPhone user.  I won't give up the Apple music just because of Apple killing 
iTunes.  Although, I won't think of purchasing a Mac though.  I've been 
seriously considering purchasing a Mini iPad, but I figure I can use my iPhone 
as long as I have a Bluetooth keyboard, so I really don't need an iPad, but 
then again, I think it really all depends what one might be using the iPhone or 
iPad for.  I will more than likely stick with Windows, and purchase a Windows 
laptop.  I don't know what Sieghard said about this though, but I think time 
will prove you wrong!  Smile!   

Janet 
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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:31 PM
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Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. 
Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some 
point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in 
more sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because 
they have iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of 
looking for phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my 
good friend Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so 
far he's been right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right 
eventually!


On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>
> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>  From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Larry Lumpkin
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>
>>
>>My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>>
>>
>>
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These are the devices that will support iOS 13

These are the devices that will support iOS 13:


iPhone XS

iPhone XS Max

iPhone XR

iPhone X

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

iPhone 7

iPhone 7 Plus

iPhone 6s

iPhone 6s Plus

iPhone SE

iPod touch (7th generation)

In comparison to the iOS 12 release last year, Apple has dropped support for 
the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, and iPhone 6 Plus. Despite earlier rumors to the 
contrary, the iPhone SE is still supported by this year’s iOS 13 release. The 
iPod touch 6th generation has been dropped, however.


Meanwhile, as for the new iPadOS 13release, Apple says that these iPads are 
supported:


12.9-inch iPad Pro

11-inch iPad Pro

10.5-inch iPad Pro

9.7-inch iPad Pro

iPad (6th generation)

iPad (5th generation)

iPad mini (5th generation)

iPad mini 4

iPad Air (3rd generation)

iPad Air 2

This means that Apple has dropped supported for the iPad mini 2 and iPad mini 
3, as well as the original iPad Air.


from:

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/03/iphone-ipad-ios-13-compatibility/

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain

My theory has been for a while that Apple will stop supporting Windows. 
Sure, they may lose some sales of Apple Music and iPhones, but at some 
point, I figure they'll start thinking they'll make up those losses in 
more sales of the Mac. I think people will start buying Macs because 
they have iPhones and have bought into the Apple ecosystem instead of 
looking for phones that will work with their Windows PC's. I know my 
good friend Sieghard and I disagreed on this point a while ago, and so 
far he's been right, but I'm still thinking time will prove me right 
eventually!



On 6/3/19 3:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
it makes no monehy for Apple.

On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:

 From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.

Andy

   - Original Message -
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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   Subject: apple killing ITunes?


   My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
program. Anyone heard anything?




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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

The statement from APH only said they were going to stop selling it because 
they want to be able to provide an affordable braille option and that the 
supply stream was not dependable.
Well, according to Orbit research when APH released their statement, Orbit had 
2000 units in stock.
So you can speculate all you want; but the reality is that APH chose to stop 
selling it.
If you want to know more about the whys, you may want to contact APH directly.
HTH,
Richard


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On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

We don’t know. Orbit Research seems to have broken their agreements with many 
of the Braille Transforming Group members.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

樂 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of terri 
elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

Terri
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
You can slow it down or speed it up.
I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.
Richard

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in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you.
maria.reye...@icloud.com



On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

We don’t know. Orbit Research seems to have broken their agreements with many 
of the Braille Transforming Group members.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

樂 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci

 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
terri elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

 

Terri

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think. 

The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.

You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.

You can slow it down or speed it up.

I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.

I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.

And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.

Richard

 

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flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
maria.reye...@icloud.com  





On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan mailto:our4p...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

 

Thank you,

Traci

 

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread Traci Duncan

樂 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
> Orbit Research for $600 or so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of terri 
> elliott
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?
>  
> Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
> available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.
>  
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
> The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
> You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
> You can slow it down or speed it up.
> I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
> I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
> And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
> Brannon started a new list.
> Richard
>  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
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> 
> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
> running?
> 
> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
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> maria.reye...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>  
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: InstaPot with iOS

2019-06-03 Thread Lois Butterfield

This isn’t the Bluetooth model, but it does say it has an Alexa skill. I’m not 
sure how that would work, but it might work nicely. This also is a 3 quart 
size, which is pretty small I think. I have a 6 quart. Be interesting to know 
if someone has use the Alexa skill successfully with it.

Take care, Lois

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> This is not it.
> The one you're looking for is: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-Smart-Electric-Pressure/dp/B0777XQ4S8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Instant+Pot+wifi=1559584256=home-garden=1-3
> To be clear, the Bluetooth model was a first generation one. I have this one. 
> Regarding the wifi model, mileage will vary. Some folks say it's accessible 
> or at least accessible enough with the iOS app. Whereas others will say 
> otherwise.
> I have nothing but good things to say about my Bluetooth model. I use it 
> easily 4 to 5 times a week. Not that the appliance is anything special, but 
> simply that the app accessibility is solid.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 10:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is my understanding correct that only certain models of the InstaPot work 
> with iOS, and if so, which models are these? There's a deal today on Amazon. 
> I'll paste the link below, but I can't tell whether or not this is Bluetooth 
> capable. Thanks for any help.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CYMYK6?ref=dotd_h_t_=pe_837390_412812140
> 
> If anyone has helpful alternatives to this product series, I'm open to 
> suggestions.
> 
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

The big news: iTunes is no more. Instead, Apple is splitting iTunes into three 
separate apps: Apple Music, Apple Podcasts and Apple TV. Users no longer need 
iTunes to sync their phones to a computer.

from an article in the Apple News app:
https://apple.news/AsWvnPiqETYykBYd2RhzD9Q



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On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:53 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Somebody on another list claims that nothing is going to change on the window 
side. But I don’t necessarily know where they got that. As for the encrypted 
backup, I quit using it when they added all the stuff to iCloud that used to be 
only in the encrypted backup. That plus the fact that you couldn’t back up all 
apps anymore was enough to make iTunes more less useless for any sort of phone 
back up for me. What I want to know is what happens with iTunes match? I have a 
lot of music in the cloud that I ripped for my own CDs and was matched in 
iTunes match. Some of that music is not on the Apple Music store or music 
service I should say. And they’re telling me my match subscription is up for 
renewal this month. Are they going to take my 25 bucks and then kill it? I 
wonder how I find that out, and what happens to all that music that I owned and 
ripped and now lives on an old Mac and in my music library in the cloud through 
match.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chris Chaffin 
mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
handled outside of using it on the Mac.
I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items if 
doing it from windows.

I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud now, 
taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as being 
only able to update your device over wi-fi.
My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just a 
thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Chris


On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi,
Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, so 
I Googled this.
Janet

Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
By
Chris Ciaccia
| Fox News
Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
Just a few months after it became an adult,
Apple
is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
media player, iTunes, according to
Bloomberg.
The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it easy to 
access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song
or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had outlived 
its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly endless
string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV and 
Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, which
already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both the
Instagram
and the
Facebook
page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more than
50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million songs 
for $9.99 a month.
In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new updates 
to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health features
are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
Health app that will let users know how loud

Re: apple killing ITunes?

Somebody on another list claims that nothing is going to change on the window 
side. But I don’t necessarily know where they got that. As for the encrypted 
backup, I quit using it when they added all the stuff to iCloud that used to be 
only in the encrypted backup. That plus the fact that you couldn’t back up all 
apps anymore was enough to make iTunes more less useless for any sort of phone 
back up for me. What I want to know is what happens with iTunes match? I have a 
lot of music in the cloud that I ripped for my own CDs and was matched in 
iTunes match. Some of that music is not on the Apple Music store or music 
service I should say. And they’re telling me my match subscription is up for 
renewal this month. Are they going to take my 25 bucks and then kill it? I 
wonder how I find that out, and what happens to all that music that I owned and 
ripped and now lives on an old Mac and in my music library in the cloud through 
match.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
> handled outside of using it on the Mac.
> I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items 
> if doing it from windows.
> 
> I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud now, 
> taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as being 
> only able to update your device over wi-fi.
> My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
> icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just 
> a thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
> there is a lot of unanswered questions.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
>> whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, 
>> so I Googled this. 
>> Janet
>>  
>> Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
>> By
>> Chris Ciaccia
>> | Fox News
>> Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
>> Just a few months after it became an adult,
>> Apple
>> is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
>> Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
>> media player, iTunes, according to
>> Bloomberg.
>> The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
>> widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
>> and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
>> The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it easy 
>> to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song
>> or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had 
>> outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly 
>> endless
>> string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
>> computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.
>>  
>> APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
>> To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV 
>> and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, 
>> which
>> already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
>> Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both 
>> the
>> Instagram
>> and the
>> Facebook
>> page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
>> As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
>> turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more than
>> 50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
>> songs for $9.99 a month.
>> In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new 
>> updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New 
>> health features
>> are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
>> Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
>> movies on their device or headphones.
>> Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the 
>> strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
>> Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when 
>> its keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
>> Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>  
>> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
>> off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
>> Anyone heard anything?
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RE: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread David Moore

Hi!
I download podcasts that are on iTunes with a pod catcher.
Will I be able to still do that.
I do this on a Windows 10 computer, and also, my Android phone!
I was wondering if the pod catchers will be able to search on iTunes for those 
pod casts like always!
I need to know for Windows and Android!
David Moore

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From: James English
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

This sounds like a money-making measure to me. Will it now be
impossible to transfer songs from a windows computer to an iPhone?

On 6/3/19, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>
> Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to
> create and sync your own ring tones.
> Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>
>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
>>> been
>>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI
>>> folks
>>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only
>>> thing i
>>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: Larry Lumpkin
>>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>>  Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>>
>>>
>>>  My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>>>
>>>
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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of terri 
elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think. 

The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.

You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.

You can slow it down or speed it up.

I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.

I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.

And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.

Richard

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Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
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Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,

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Re: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Chaffin



I am assuming that all of the iTunes changes will not go into effect until the 
new Mac OS, Catalina, is released, which should be sometime in the Fall.
So hopefully we will at least have the summer with iTunes.

Chris


> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> Well, low in behold, I just got a message on my Windows computer, saying I 
> have an iTunes update!  I went into iTunes, and sure enough, I also got the 
> same update message.  Check your computer and see if you have an update.   
> I'm not sure what this means now.  
> Janet 
> Peace Be With You. 
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread terri elliott

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
> The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
> You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
> You can slow it down or speed it up.
> I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
> I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
> And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
> Brannon started a new list.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
>> running?
>> 
>> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with 
>> your contact information and I will happily add you. 
>> maria.reye...@icloud.com
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
>>> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread Agent086b

Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io 
Max.
> On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
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> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
> running?
> 
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>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
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>> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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RE: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

Well Larry, 
For your sake, I hope they don't kill it either, but as far as I am concerned, 
they can kill it!  iTunes has always been flaky for me, so if Apple does kill 
it, trust me, I won't shed any tears!  That is just my personal opinion though. 
 I know some people do like it, and I won't say anymore bad about iTunes!
Janet 
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Larry Lumpkin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

I have hundreds of cds ripped into iTunes. I hope they do not kill the
windows version. As clunky as it is, I depend on it and use it for listening
to music on my computer.


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gross
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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

Hi Everyone, 
Well, low in behold, I just got a message on my Windows computer, saying I
have an iTunes update!  I went into iTunes, and sure enough, I also got the
same update message.  Check your computer and see if you have an update.
I'm not sure what this means now.  
Janet 
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Re: Personal hot spot

2019-06-03 Thread 'Marcio' via VIPhone


Bud Kennedy,
The article is below. Enjoy it :)

Ever been stuck in a situation where you need to get a computer or 
tablet online with no Wi-Fi nearby? If you've got an iPhone with a 3G or 
4G data connection, that problem can be easily solved thanks to Personal 
Hotspot.



 Personal Hotspot Explained

Personal Hotspot is a feature of iOS that lets iPhones running iOS 4.3 
and higher share their cellular data connection with other nearby 
devices via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or USB. This feature is generically known 
as tethering. When using Personal Hotspot, your iPhone acts like a 
wireless router for the other devices, transmitting and receiving data 
for them. If you have the available data on your cellular plan, it's an 
excellent alternative to using public WiFi hotspots.

Personal Hotspot Requirements
In order to use Personal Hotspot on an iPhone, you need:

1. An iPhone 4 or newer
2. iOS 4.3 or higher
3. A data plan that supports tethering/Personal Hotspot
4. A USB cable, if you want to connect devices that way.


 Adding Personal Hotspot to Your Data Plan

These days, most major phone companies include Personal Hotspot by 
default as part of their data plans for iPhone. AT and Verizon include 
it on all of their plans, while T-Mobile offers it as part of its 
unlimited data plan. Sprint charges for it, with prices depending on how 
much data you want to use. And all of that can change on a dime.
Most regional carriers and prepaid carriers support it as part of their 
data plans, as well. If you're not sure whether you have Personal 
Hotspot on your data plan, check with your phone company.
Note: For important information about Personal Hotspot data use, see 
Data Use with Personal Hotspot, below.
Another way to know if you have it is to check your iPhone. Tap the 
Settings app and look for the Personal Hotspot menu beneath Cellular. If 
it's there, you likely have the feature.



 How to Turn on Personal Hotspot

Once Personal Hotspot is enabled on your data plan, turning it on is 
really simple. Just follow these steps:


1. Tap Settings.
2. Tap Personal Hotspot.
3. Move the Personal Hotspot slider to on/green.

On iOS 6 and earlier, the steps are Settings > Network > Personal 
Hotspot > move the slider to On.
If you don't have Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or both enabled when you turn on 
Personal Hotspot, a pop-up window asks if you want to turn them on or 
only use USB.



 Enabling Instant Hotspot Using Continuity

With Instant Hotspot, the Personal Hotspot on your iPhone (or cellular 
iPad) can give Internet access to any other Mac, iPhone, iPad, or iPod 
touch without having to enter the password.
First up, you'll need to make sure that the iOS device you want to use 
as the Hotspot is signed into iCloud with the same Apple ID as the Mac 
or iOS device you want to provide internet access to. Each device will 
also need to have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi turned on.

Here's how it works:

1. On your Mac, use the Wi-Fi status menu  in the menu bar to choose
   the name of the iPhone or iPad providing your Personal Hotspot.
2. On your iPad, iPod touch, or another iPhone, go to Settings > Wi-Fi,
   then tap the name of the iPhone or iPad providing your Personal Hotspot.

1. Connect your Mac to the Hotspot device via the Wi-Fi status menu in
   the menu bar.
2. On a different iPad, iPod touch, or iPhone, go to Settings > Wi-Fi,
   then tap the name of the iPhone or iPad providing your Personal Hotspot.
3. Your third device will now connect to your hotspot without having to
   enter the password.


 Personal Hotspot Connection Established

Connecting other devices to your Personal Hotspot via Wi-Fi is easy. 
Tell the people who want to connect to turn on Wi-Fi on their devices 
and look for the name of your phone (as shown on the Personal Hotspot 
screen). They should select that network and enter the password shown on 
the Personal Hotspot screen on the iPhone.



 How to Know When Devices Are Connected to Your Personal Hotspot

When other devices are connected to your iPhone's hotspot, you'll see a 
blue bar at the top of your screen and on your lock screen. In iOS 7 and 
up, the blue bar shows a number next to a lock or interlocking loops 
icon that lets you know how many devices are connected to your phone.



 Data Use with Personal Hotspot

One important thing to remember: unlike traditional Wi-Fi, your Personal 
Hotspot uses data from your iPhone data plan, which offers a limited 
amount of data. Your monthly data allowance can be used up quickly if 
you're streaming video or doing other bandwidth-intensive tasks.
All data used by devices connected to your iPhone counts against your 
data plan, so be careful if your data plan is small. It might also be a 
good idea to learn how to check your data usage so you don't 
accidentally go over your limit and have to pay extra.

Source: Lifewire 

Cheers,
Marcio 
AKA /Starboy/


Sent from a

Re: missed keynote

2019-06-03 Thread Wayne Merritt

You can probably find it on YouTube, or subscribe to it as a podcast
in your podcast app of choice. I like listneing to the TWIT feed, and
subscribing to the TWIT Special podcast. They make commentary and
snarky remarks during the feed, so be aware that you won't just get
the audio from Apple. They do have good observations though, IMO.

Wayne

On 6/3/19, Arlene  wrote:
> Could we download the keynote on the apple site? Unfortunately we missed it.
> Thanks
>
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
You can slow it down or speed it up.
I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy
Brannon started a new list.
Richard

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Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and
running?

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On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan
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Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has
auto scrolling. Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: missed keynote

2019-06-03 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

I think so, and you can listen to it on Youtube, or podcasts if you listen to 
those 

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> Could we download the keynote on the apple site?  Unfortunately we missed it. 
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

Hi. As yall know, iTunes is being split up into 3 apps. But I heard that when 
you need to do something with your phone, you plug it in and there's something 
on the finder. 

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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I agree completely!!!
> Let’s be positive.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Keith Bierman  wrote:
>> 
>> From apple.com
>> iTunes forever changed the way people experienced music, movies, TV shows, 
>> and podcasts. It all changes again with three all-new, dedicated apps — 
>> Music, Apple TV, and Apple Podcasts — each designed from the ground up to be 
>> the best way to enjoy entertainment on your Mac. And rest assured; 
>> everything you had in your iTunes library is still accessible in each app. 
>> iCloud seamlessly syncs everything across your devices — or you can back up, 
>> restore, and sync by connecting the device directly to your Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> Admittedly this is silent on Windows, but it seems most likely that the one 
>> itunes app will be replaced with 3 separate ones ... perhaps a 4th for 
>> backup. Time will tell, but I'd certainly not panic ;>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Chris Chaffin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
>>> handled outside of using it on the Mac.
>>> I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items 
>>> if doing it from windows.
>>> 
>>> I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud 
>>> now, taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as 
>>> being only able to update your device over wi-fi.
>>> My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
>>> icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is 
>>> just a thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is 
>>> for sure, there is a lot of unanswered questions.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about 
 Apple whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news 
 letter, so I Googled this. 

 Janet

 Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say

 By

 Chris Ciaccia

 | Fox News

 Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3

 Just a few months after it became an adult,

 Apple

 is killing off one of its most controversial creations.

 Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
 media player, iTunes, according to

 Bloomberg.

 The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had 
 been widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including 
 Apple Music

 and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.

 The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it 
 easy to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a 
 song

 or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had 
 outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a 
 seemingly endless

 string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
 computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

 APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING

 To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV 
 and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, 
 which

 already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.

 Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both 
 the

 Instagram

 and the

 Facebook

 page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.

 As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it 
 has turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has 
 more than

 50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
 songs for $9.99 a month.

 In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new 
 updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New 
 health features

 are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
 Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or

 movies on their device or headphones.

 Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the 
 strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.

RE: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

I have hundreds of cds ripped into itunes. I hope they do not kill the
windows version. As clunky as it is, I depend on it and use it for listening
to music on my computer.

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gross
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To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

Hi Everyone, 
Well, low in behold, I just got a message on my Windows computer, saying I
have an iTunes update!  I went into iTunes, and sure enough, I also got the
same update message.  Check your computer and see if you have an update.
I'm not sure what this means now.  
Janet 
Peace Be With You. 

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missed keynote

Could we download the keynote on the apple site? Unfortunately we missed it. 
Thanks

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

2019-06-03 Thread Traci Duncan

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Anthony Vece

I agree completely!!!
Let’s be positive.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Keith Bierman  wrote:
> 
> From apple.com
> iTunes forever changed the way people experienced music, movies, TV shows, 
> and podcasts. It all changes again with three all-new, dedicated apps — 
> Music, Apple TV, and Apple Podcasts — each designed from the ground up to be 
> the best way to enjoy entertainment on your Mac. And rest assured; everything 
> you had in your iTunes library is still accessible in each app. iCloud 
> seamlessly syncs everything across your devices — or you can back up, 
> restore, and sync by connecting the device directly to your Mac.
> 
> 
> Admittedly this is silent on Windows, but it seems most likely that the one 
> itunes app will be replaced with 3 separate ones ... perhaps a 4th for 
> backup. Time will tell, but I'd certainly not panic ;>
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
>> handled outside of using it on the Mac.
>> I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items 
>> if doing it from windows.
>> 
>> I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud now, 
>> taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as being 
>> only able to update your device over wi-fi.
>> My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
>> icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just 
>> a thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for 
>> sure, there is a lot of unanswered questions.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
>>> whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, 
>>> so I Googled this. 
>>> 
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
>>> 
>>> By
>>> 
>>> Chris Ciaccia
>>> 
>>> | Fox News
>>> 
>>> Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
>>> 
>>> Just a few months after it became an adult,
>>> 
>>> Apple
>>> 
>>> is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
>>> 
>>> Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
>>> media player, iTunes, according to
>>> 
>>> Bloomberg.
>>> 
>>> The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
>>> widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
>>> 
>>> and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
>>> 
>>> The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it 
>>> easy to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a 
>>> song
>>> 
>>> or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had 
>>> outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a 
>>> seemingly endless
>>> 
>>> string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
>>> computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
>>> 
>>> To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV 
>>> and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, 
>>> which
>>> 
>>> already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
>>> 
>>> Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both 
>>> the
>>> 
>>> Instagram
>>> 
>>> and the
>>> 
>>> Facebook
>>> 
>>> page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
>>> 
>>> As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
>>> turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more 
>>> than
>>> 
>>> 50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
>>> songs for $9.99 a month.
>>> 
>>> In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new 
>>> updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New 
>>> health features
>>> 
>>> are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
>>> Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
>>> 
>>> movies on their device or headphones.
>>> 
>>> Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the 
>>> strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
>>> 
>>> Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when 
>>> its keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
>>> 
>>> Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to 
>>> kill off itunes. She

Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Anthony Vece

I don’t believe that we will lose any features if anything we will gain 
features and also better accessibility.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to 
> create and sync your own ring tones.
> Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>> 
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
>>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
>>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
>>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Larry Lumpkin
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Anthony Vece

Not at all.
Let’s be positive.
The new program may give us better excess ability and more features.
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:39 PM, James English  wrote:
> 
> This sounds like a money-making measure to me. Will it now be
> impossible to transfer songs from a windows computer to an iPhone?
> 
>> On 6/3/19, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to
>> create and sync your own ring tones.
>> Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>> 
 On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
 been
 replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
 podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
 ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI
 folks
 just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only
 thing i
 have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
 that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
 
 Andy
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
 Subject: apple killing ITunes?
 
 
 My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
 kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
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Just Got An iTunes Update Pc!

Hi Everyone, 
Well, low in behold, I just got a message on my Windows computer, saying I have 
an iTunes update!  I went into iTunes, and sure enough, I also got the same 
update message.  Check your computer and see if you have an update.   I'm not 
sure what this means now.  
Janet 
Peace Be With You. 


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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread James English

This sounds like a money-making measure to me. Will it now be
impossible to transfer songs from a windows computer to an iPhone?

On 6/3/19, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>
> Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to
> create and sync your own ring tones.
> Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>
>> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
>> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
>> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
>> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
>> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
>> it makes no monehy for Apple.
>>
>>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually
>>> been
>>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI
>>> folks
>>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only
>>> thing i
>>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: Larry Lumpkin
>>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>>  Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>>>
>>>
>>>  My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Chaffin



Not only will I miss the backup feature, but I will also miss the ability to 
create and sync your own ring tones.
Maybe they will make a way to do this through windows.

Chris.


> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
> already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
> occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
> or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
> probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
> it makes no monehy for Apple.
> 
>> On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
>> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
>> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
>> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
>> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
>> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
>> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Larry Lumpkin
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>>  Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>> 
>> 
>>  My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
>> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
>> program. Anyone heard anything?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Andy,
Oh ok, I didn’t know that.
Thank you.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

The ID mate scanners only read bar codes.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Arlene,
I just wonder is this the same id scanner you and I talked about some months 
ago? Do you know if this scanner also reads cards such as a state id, credit 
card?
Thank you.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

I probably spelled it wrong, it's the id summit scanner.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Arlene,
I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who knows.  
May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use?
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we use 
our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

HI Arlene!
I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It has 
become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering purchasing 
the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable than the 
Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, you’re lucky.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow process, 
especially compared to the summit scanner.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Richard,
I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and others 
can’t.
That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app with no 
problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a fact 
though.
Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI issues

Hello,
Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.
For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the previous 
phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.
The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with Apple 
Accessibility.
I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.
I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using it 
successfully.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Richard

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Re: Seeing AI issues

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Baracco

The ID mate scanners only read bar codes.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:40 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

  Arlene, 

  I just wonder is this the same id scanner you and I talked about some months 
ago? Do you know if this scanner also reads cards such as a state id, credit 
card? 

  Thank you. 

  Janet

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:33 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

  I probably spelled it wrong, it's the id summit scanner.

  Arlene

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:40 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Arlene, 

I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who 
knows.  May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use? 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we 
use our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM

  Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

  HI Arlene! 

  I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It 
has become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering 
purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable 
than the Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, 
you’re lucky.  

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

  Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow 
process, especially compared to the summit scanner.

  Arlene

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Richard, 

I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and 
others can’t. 

That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app 
with no problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a 
fact though.  

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI issues

Hello, 

Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.

For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the 
previous phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.

The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with 
Apple Accessibility.

I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.

I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using 
it successfully.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Richard

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

Since they were specific about the Mac, and stated that this had
already pretty much been done in iOS, I'm sure the change will also
occur in windows. You'll probably buy ring tons through the App Store
or through the Music app, but probably the app store. What will
probably be gone is the ability to rip CD's which Itunes does now but
it makes no monehy for Apple.

On 6/3/19, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been
> replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music,
> podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and
> ever since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks
> just aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i
> have used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having
> that ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.
>
> Andy
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Larry Lumpkin
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:00 PM
>   Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>
>
>   My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
> program. Anyone heard anything?
>
>
>
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Re: Seeing AI issues

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Baracco

The new model is called the Galaxy.

Andy

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  From: Arlene 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

  I probably spelled it wrong, it's the id summit scanner.

  Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: janet gross 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Arlene, 

I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who 
knows.  May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use? 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we 
use our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM

  Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

  HI Arlene! 

  I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It 
has become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering 
purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable 
than the Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, 
you’re lucky.  

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

  Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow 
process, especially compared to the summit scanner.

  Arlene

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Richard, 

I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and 
others can’t. 

That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app 
with no problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a 
fact though.  

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI issues

Hello, 

Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.

For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the 
previous phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.

The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with 
Apple Accessibility.

I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.

I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using 
it successfully.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Richard

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Keith Bierman

>From apple.com 
iTunes forever changed the way people experienced music, movies, TV shows,
and podcasts. It all changes again with three all-new, dedicated apps —
Music, Apple TV, and Apple Podcasts — each designed from the ground up to
be the best way to enjoy entertainment on your Mac. And rest assured;
everything you had in your iTunes library is still accessible in each app.
iCloud seamlessly syncs everything across your devices — or you can back
up, restore, and sync by connecting the device directly to your Mac.


Admittedly this is silent on Windows, but it seems most likely that the one
itunes app will be replaced with 3 separate ones ... perhaps a 4th for
backup. Time will tell, but I'd certainly not panic ;>


On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Chris Chaffin 
wrote:

>
> I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be
> handled outside of using it on the Mac.
> I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other
> items if doing it from windows.
>
> I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud
> now, taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as
> being only able to update your device over wi-fi.
> My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the
> icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is
> just a thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is
> for sure, there is a lot of unanswered questions.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about
> Apple whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news
> letter, so I Googled this.
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
>
> By
>
> Chris Ciaccia
>
> | Fox News
>
> Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
>
> Just a few months after it became an adult,
>
> Apple
>
> is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
>
> Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie
> media player, iTunes, according to
>
> Bloomberg.
>
> The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had
> been widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple
> Music
>
> and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
>
> The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it
> easy to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a
> song
>
> or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had
> outlived its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a
> seemingly endless
>
> string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of
> computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.
>
>
>
> APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
>
> To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV
> and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices,
> which
>
> already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
>
> Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both
> the
>
> Instagram
>
> and the
>
> Facebook
>
> page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
>
> As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it
> has turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has
> more than
>
> 50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million
> songs for $9.99 a month.
>
> In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new
> updates to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New
> health features
>
> are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped
> Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
>
> movies on their device or headphones.
>
> Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the
> strain on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
>
> Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when
> its keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
>
> Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
> *Sent:* Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* apple killing ITunes?
>
>
>
> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to
> kill off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows
> program. Anyone heard anything?
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RE: Wi-Fi.

I restarted, which did not work, but now I am in the process of resetting. At 
least I'm learning more here. How long does it take to reset? Right now, I 
can't get a word out of it. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Wi-Fi.

Hi Carolyn,

try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, try resetting network 
settings. This is an option in Settings/General/Reset.

Best,
Anna




> On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> Every time I set my phone for Wi-Fi, I get a message oops, try again 
> in a few minutes. This has happened at least ten times. Got any ideas? 
> Thanks.
> 
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RE: apple killing ITunes?

Hi Chris,
>From what little I read about it, I think Apple might have separate apps for 
>music and podcasts.  I didn’t hear anything about Windows though.  I guess we 
>will hear more soon.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple killing ITunes?

I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
handled outside of using it on the Mac.
I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items if 
doing it from windows.

I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud now, 
taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as being 
only able to update your device over wi-fi.
My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just a 
thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Chris

On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, so 
I Googled this.
Janet

Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
By
Chris Ciaccia
| Fox News
Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
Just a few months after it became an adult,
Apple
is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
media player, iTunes, according to
Bloomberg.
The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it easy to 
access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song
or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had outlived 
its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly endless
string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV and 
Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, which
already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both the
Instagram
and the
Facebook
page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more than
50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million songs 
for $9.99 a month.
In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new updates 
to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health features
are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
movies on their device or headphones.
Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the strain 
on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when its 
keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple killing ITunes?

My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
Anyone heard anything?

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Andy Baracco

>From my understanding, Apple is killing iTunes.  They have gradually been 
>replacing it with apps for downloading specific content such as music, 
>podcasts, etc.  iTunes has been the program that folks love to hate, and ever 
>since Apple has offered the ability to download content via WIFI folks just 
>aren't using it.  I have iTunes on my PC but for years the only thing i have 
>used it for was to make backups of my phone, and I will miss having that 
>ability, even though I guess you can use iCloud for that purpose.

Andy

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  My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
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Wi-Fi.

Got my phone on, Anna.

It still said oops, we've hit a bump. Try again in a few
minutes. 

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn
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Re: apple killing ITunes?

2019-06-03 Thread Chris Chaffin


I also listened to the keynote and did not hear how iTunes task would be 
handled outside of using it on the Mac.
I now wonder how you will be able to add music, ring tones, and other items if 
doing it from windows.

I also wonder if you will only be able to back up your device to icloud now, 
taking away the encrypted backup option to your computer.  As well as being 
only able to update your device over wi-fi.
My only thought is that they might incorporate the backup option into the 
icloud program that you can install on a windows computer.  Now this is just a 
thought, I have not heard anything confirming this.  One thing is for sure, 
there is a lot of unanswered questions.

Chris


> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
> whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, 
> so I Googled this. 
> Janet
>  
> Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
> By
> Chris Ciaccia
> | Fox News
> Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
> Just a few months after it became an adult,
> Apple
> is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
> Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
> media player, iTunes, according to
> Bloomberg.
> The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
> widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
> and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
> The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it easy 
> to access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song
> or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had outlived 
> its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly endless
> string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
> computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.
>  
> APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
> To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV 
> and Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, which
> already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
> Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both the
> Instagram
> and the
> Facebook
> page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
> As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
> turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more than
> 50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million 
> songs for $9.99 a month.
> In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new updates 
> to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health 
> features
> are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
> Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
> movies on their device or headphones.
> Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the strain 
> on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
> Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when its 
> keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
> Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: apple killing ITunes?
>  
> My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
> off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
> Anyone heard anything?
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Personal hot spot

2019-06-03 Thread 'Bud Kennedy' via VIPhone

Marcio,

Would you please resend your message on setting up a personal hot spot.  I am 
sorry, I moved the message around a couple of times and now it says “this 
message has no content.”  Thanks.  

Bud Kennedy 
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RE: Wi-Fi.

Anna, now that I have the phone off, what do I do to get it on? I pushed power 
on my SE for about 10-12 seconds. Nothing happened. I still double-tapped, just 
in case something was that that I didn't know. Thanks for help. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Hi Carolyn,

try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, try resetting network 
settings. This is an option in Settings/General/Reset.

Best,
Anna




> On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Every time I set my phone for Wi-Fi, I get a message oops, try again 
> in a few minutes. This has happened at least ten times. Got any ideas? 
> Thanks.
> 
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> 
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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Nothing wrong with putting a little light on things, Janet, hahahahaha. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 

Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is 
> blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his father!  
> I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being 
> blind!  Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never 
> thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how 
> about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of 
> that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert 
> it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  
> Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I live 
> alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would 
> come around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have 
> this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, 
> and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really 
> need a lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I 
> was sighted!  Well, I'm happy

RE: Seeing AI issues

Arlene,
I just wonder is this the same id scanner you and I talked about some months 
ago? Do you know if this scanner also reads cards such as a state id, credit 
card?
Thank you.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

I probably spelled it wrong, it's the id summit scanner.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Arlene,
I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who knows.  
May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use?
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we use 
our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

HI Arlene!
I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It has 
become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering purchasing 
the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable than the 
Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, you’re lucky.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow process, 
especially compared to the summit scanner.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Richard,
I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and others 
can’t.
That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app with no 
problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a fact 
though.
Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI issues

Hello,
Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.
For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the previous 
phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.
The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with Apple 
Accessibility.
I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.
I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using it 
successfully.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Richard

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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Paula, 
So these apps will actually make a sound if the lights are on? Wow, now, that's 
pretty cool, and I will definitely search the app store for one of these.  
Thank you so much for letting me know, as I just really don't ever think of the 
lights.  Shame on me!  Smile!  

Janet 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet, There are two good light detector apps which are completely free and 
voice-over accessible.  One is light detector, the other is boop.  Both emit a 
sound or tone when the lights are on.  I use light detector all the time and it 
works very well.  I have a couple of switches where the light can be controlled 
from two different ends of the hall, so knowing whether the switch is down and 
the light is off doesn't work for those lights. In all my other lights the 
light is off when the switch is down. Of course, those are the lights that 
people forget to turn off.  SMILEY. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 

Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 

-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is 
> blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his

Re: Seeing AI issues

I probably spelled it wrong, it's the id summit scanner.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:40 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

  Hi Arlene, 

  I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who knows. 
 May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use? 

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
  Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

  Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we 
use our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

  Arlene

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

HI Arlene! 

I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It 
has become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering 
purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable 
than the Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, 
you’re lucky.  

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow 
process, especially compared to the summit scanner.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM

  Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

  Hi Richard, 

  I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and 
others can’t. 

  That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app with 
no problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a fact 
though.  

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
  To: ViPone list
  Subject: Seeing AI issues

  Hello, 

  Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.

  For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the 
previous phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.

  The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with 
Apple Accessibility.

  I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.

  I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using it 
successfully.

  Just my 2 cents worth.

  Richard

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RE: apple killing ITunes?

Hi,
Here is some information that might be helpful.  I either heard about Apple 
whiping out iTunes on the radio, or maybe I got it in an Apple news letter, so 
I Googled this.
Janet

Apple is killing off iTunes, reports say
By
Chris Ciaccia
| Fox News
Fox News Flash top headlines for June 3
Just a few months after it became an adult,
Apple
is killing off one of its most controversial creations.
Launched January 9, 2001, the tech giant is set to end its music and movie 
media player, iTunes, according to
Bloomberg.
The move, which will be announced at Apple's developer conference, had been 
widely expected, given the rise of streaming services, including Apple Music
and its soon-to-be-launched Apple TV+.
The brainchild of Steve Jobs, iTunes ushered in an era where it made it easy to 
access music legally. Users could pay as little as 99 cents for a song
or a similar amount for an episode of a TV show or movie, but it had outlived 
its usefulness. Over the past several years, there were a seemingly endless
string of complaints from users about its cluttered nature, the amount of 
computing power it took to run the program and other concerns.

APPLE WWDC PREVIEW: HERE'S THE NEW STUFF THAT'S COMING
To replace iTunes, Apple will launch three new apps for the Mac, Music, TV and 
Podcasts, bringing it in line with Apple's strategy for iOS devices, which
already have dedicated Music, TV and Podcast apps.
Apple has already wiped the iTunes' social networking accounts clean. Both the
Instagram
and the
Facebook
page still exist, but all the posts have been deleted.
As Apple looks to smooth out its revenue and focus more on services, it has 
turned the focus towards initiatives such as Apple Music, which has more than
50 million paying subscribers and lets users access more than 45 million songs 
for $9.99 a month.
In addition to getting rid of iTunes, Apple will announce several new updates 
to its operating systems, including iOS, macOS and watchOS. New health features
are expected to be incorporated into iOS and watchOS, including a revamped 
Health app that will let users know how loud they are listening to music or
movies on their device or headphones.
Apple’s mobile operating system is tipped to add dark mode, easing the strain 
on users' eyes and increasing battery life.
Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple will make these announcements and more when its 
keynote address starts at 1 p.m. EST.
Fox News' Brooke Crothers contributed to this report. t

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Subject: apple killing ITunes?

My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill 
off itunes. She didn’t know whether it was the phone app or windows program. 
Anyone heard anything?

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Re: apple killing ITunes?

At this morning’s keynote, they said they were splitting it into three apps, 
music, Podcasts, and the TV app. This was in the context of iTunes for Mac. If 
they said something about windows, I didn’t see it or hear it. Also not sure 
what happens to iTunes match, for people like me who have music up in the cloud 
that is not part of Apple Music, but was written into iTunes along time ago.
Mary


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> Anyone heard anything?
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My wife saw/heard a news item this morning saying that apple planned to kill
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RE: Receive Apple Support Help Right in the Messages App

Hi Marcio,
Thank you for this, as I am going to check this out.
Janet

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Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Receive Apple Support Help Right in the Messages App

Janet,
Is one supposed to download this Apple Support App? I don't see it in the 
message app.
I think so. As far as I can see, you can download it from this link:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-support/id1130498044?mt=8

Cheers,
Marcio
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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan

Hi Janet, There are two good light detector apps which are completely free and 
voice-over accessible.  One is light detector, the other is boop.  Both emit a 
sound or tone when the lights are on.  I use light detector all the time and it 
works very well.  I have a couple of switches where the light can be controlled 
from two different ends of the hall, so knowing whether the switch is down and 
the light is off doesn't work for those lights. In all my other lights the 
light is off when the switch is down. Of course, those are the lights that 
people forget to turn off.  SMILEY. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 

Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 

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From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is 
> blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his father!  
> I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being 
> blind!  Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never 
> thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how 
> about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of 
> that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert 
> it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  
> Smile!  For

Calorie counting app

2019-06-03 Thread rhs

Hi,

 

I did a very brief search on the web site but didn't see anything very
recent on what calorie counting apps are accessible.  I'm especially
interested in hearing any recent experiences with My Fitness Pal.

 

Thanks.

Ralph

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RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Arlene,
I gave up on the Seeing AI app.  Maybe someday MS might improve it who knows.  
May I ask you what is the sumiit scanner that you use?
Janet

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Janet, the bar code reader in seeing ai isn't easy to work so that's why we use 
our sumiit scanner for reading bar codes.

Arlene
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:15 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

HI Arlene!
I can’t get the Seeing AI bar code, product, document to work at all.  It has 
become impossible to even work with it.  I am seriously considering purchasing 
the Voice Stream Scanner though.  I need something more reliable than the 
Seeing AI or the TapTap See.  If you can get the bar code to work, you’re lucky.
Janet

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI issues

Janet, the seeing ai can read bar codes which we've done. It's a slow process, 
especially compared to the summit scanner.

Arlene
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From: janet gross
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI issues

Hi Richard,
I often wonder why some people use the Seeing AI app successfully, and others 
can’t.
That is a mystery!  I have talked to people using the Seeing AI app with no 
problem, and I just can’t imagine how that can be, but I know it is a fact 
though.
Janet
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Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:41 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: Seeing AI issues

Hello,
Seeing AI was updated 2 months ago.
For those having issues on a new phone when it worked fine on the previous 
phone, it is highly unlikely it is the app.
The only way to sort out what the issue is will involve working with Apple 
Accessibility.
I have an iPhone SE, and all channels work fine.
I have clients with iPhone 8 pluses, XR's and XS phones that are using it 
successfully.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Richard

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RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Hi Marie, 
As I already said, I did just what you said, when you said I am missing the 
whole point.  I will say it again, when I deleted the old backups, and did a 
fresh new back up, it still takes up the exact amount of storage!  Well, if I 
backed up last night, now, if I do another back up today, chances I am still 
backing up the exact same right? 
Thank you for your thoughts though.  
Janet 


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Marie N.
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Janet,
maybe you are missing the point. You can delete the old backups and keep 
only the latest one in the free ICloud space that Apple provides. Then you 
do not need to purchase additional space, so where do you get the idea that 
they are forcing you to do that?


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From: janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Hi Sieghard,
I'm sorry to say I think you are missing the whole point here, and I stated 
what the issue was in my previous message.  You think there is nothing wrong 
with Apple forcing people to purchase more iCloud storage, but I do.  I just 
wonder how long will it be before others have to start purchasing more 
iCloud storage just in order to back up their phone, in case, one loses 
their phone, or if it breaks, and someone might not have the backup, that 
Apple advises people to do.  Let's face it, Apple even advises people before 
downloading an update, be for sure to back up your phone.
Thank you though for your thoughts.
Janet


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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

Hi Janet,

I am not sure why you feel this is such a big issue or unfair on the part of 
Apple. It is entirely up to you if you want to backup to iCloud or not. If 
you want to back up to a computer via iTunes or not back up at all then that 
is your choice, simply turn off iCloud Backup and it's done.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Turn Off iCloud on iPhone

HI Sieghard,
Sieghard says: I assume Janet's problem is not because of backups but 
because other stuff is getting backed up to iCloud.  Janet says: yes, it is 
coming from the backups.  Why should I have to pay Apple even if it is only 
$0.99 cents a month just because of their backups, or because of the large 
updates Apple sends out? I should have the choice if I want to purchase more 
iCloud storage or not, not because I am being forced in to it.  I do not 
have any photos, videos  on my phone or on iCloud.  I've went through iCloud 
storage and checked all the apps I want backed up, and there are only a few 
of them.  I can see just how much storage the backups are taking up in 
iCloud.  When I check iCloud, the message says: 4.1 gbs  of 5gb used backups 
83 percent dim, so this tells me most of my iCloud storage is being used by 
the backups, and this has been confirmed by Apple as well.  One thing I can 
do is to turn off the audo back up each time I charge my phone though. 
Although, Apple recommends to back up each time the phone is plugged in.  Go 
figure!
I'm not happy about this at all, and I consider this to be very unfair by 
Apple!  I'm sure Apple also knows this, when people back up, eventually, we 
all will have to start paying them for more iCloud storage!  Can you imagine 
if all Apple users start paying even if it is $0.99 each month, how much 
more money that will be for Apple! $0.99 is not a big deal, it is the 
principal!
Sieghard, thank you for your opinions though, as it is greatly appreciated.
Janet

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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I would absolutely positively not turn off iCloud altogether on an iPhone 
and I would also not even turn off iCloud backups.
I assume Janet's problem is not because of backups but because other stuff 
is getting backed up to iCloud. You get 5 Gb of free iCloud storage and 
after that you have to purchase more, 50 Gb cost only 99 Cents a month in 
the US, in Canada it's $1.35 CAD.
Photos quickly can eat up your 5 Gb and videos do so even faster so you can 
always turn off iCloud Photo Library if that is not important to me.If you 
have more storage on Dropbox or OneDrive you can also enable Camera Roll on 
either one of these services and your pictures will get backed up there.
It's a simple thing to go to Settings > Your Account (at the very top) and 
then

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 

Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 

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From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come 
over and they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them 
off.  My husband would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the lights
> for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and didn't realize it
> was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I didn't often have sighted
> visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the nonworking light thinking I was
> being such a good, attentive guide dog owner.  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their
> iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see
> anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the
> exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My
> Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew
> out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but
> luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes
> through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me
> or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess
> that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light
> switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple
> rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I
> never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb,
> and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole
> kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I
> live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come
> around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one
> friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is
> always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I
> just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I
> didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that
> problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it,
> because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an
> iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
>
>
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RE: InstaPot with iOS

This is not it.
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To be clear, the Bluetooth model was a first generation one. I have this one. 
Regarding the wifi model, mileage will vary. Some folks say it's accessible or 
at least accessible enough with the iOS app. Whereas others will say otherwise.
I have nothing but good things to say about my Bluetooth model. I use it easily 
4 to 5 times a week. Not that the appliance is anything special, but simply 
that the app accessibility is solid.

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Orozco
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: InstaPot with iOS

Hi,

Is my understanding correct that only certain models of the InstaPot work with 
iOS, and if so, which models are these? There's a deal today on Amazon. I'll 
paste the link below, but I can't tell whether or not this is Bluetooth 
capable. Thanks for any help.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CYMYK6?ref=dotd_h_t_=pe_837390_412812140

If anyone has helpful alternatives to this product series, I'm open to 
suggestions.

Joe

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InstaPot with iOS

2019-06-03 Thread Joe Orozco

Hi,

Is my understanding correct that only certain models of the InstaPot
work with iOS, and if so, which models are these? There's a deal today
on Amazon. I'll paste the link below, but I can't tell whether or not
this is Bluetooth capable. Thanks for any help.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075CYMYK6?ref=dotd_h_t_=pe_837390_412812140

If anyone has helpful alternatives to this product series, I'm open to
suggestions.

Joe

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Re: Wi-Fi.

2019-06-03 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi Carolyn,

try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, try resetting network 
settings. This is an option in Settings/General/Reset.

Best,
Anna




> On Jun 3, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Every time I set my phone for Wi-Fi, I get a message oops,
> try again in a few minutes. This has happened at least ten
> times. Got any ideas? Thanks. 
> 
> If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,
> 
> Carolyn
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RE: Wi-Fi.

Thanks, eventually, might try that, please, but not today. My husband is sick. 
Thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi.

Carolyn, maybe we could get on the phone to see more of what is going on. 
Just call us any time, and we'll go through it with you.

Arlene- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi.


>I have done it for about ten times over the weekend, and when through, it 
>will say, oops, ht a bump, try again in a few minutes.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: Wi-Fi.
>
> the done is above the p, in other words it's on the right side of the 
> keyboard, and this is coming from doing it on a consumer cellular phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:16 PM
> Subject: Wi-Fi.
>
>
>> First, my carrier works with Wi-Fi for the phone.
>>
>> So, I got through all the fields including my state. Then, I was
>> stuck. I couldn't find Done or Next or anything. Now, I need to know
>> what I need to do to close the deal, thanks.
>>
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Re: Wi-Fi.

Carolyn, maybe we could get on the phone to see more of what is going on. 
Just call us any time, and we'll go through it with you.

Arlene- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Wi-Fi.

I have done it for about ten times over the weekend, and when through, it 
will say, oops, ht a bump, try again in a few minutes.

Best regards,

Carolyn

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Of Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wi-Fi.

the done is above the p, in other words it's on the right side of the 
keyboard, and this is coming from doing it on a consumer cellular phone.

- Original Message -
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 7:16 PM
Subject: Wi-Fi.

First, my carrier works with Wi-Fi for the phone.

So, I got through all the fields including my state. Then, I was
stuck. I couldn't find Done or Next or anything. Now, I need to know
what I need to do to close the deal, thanks.

If you pray, don't worry; if you worry, don't pray,

Carolyn

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