Re: Query about iOS icons

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Lovely to see you here.  I tried the first with him watching but it didn’t go 
so well. II found him a video for beginners with iPhone X so hopefully that’ll 
help for now but yes such a list for various operating systems would help not 
only with assisting people we know but also with dialoging with tech support or 
app developers and the like.  I would certainly appreciate it.
Take good care.
Robin


From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Query about iOS icons

Robin,

Wow, this would be wonderful if this list could be made. After this we could 
even expand it to Windows icons, Mac icons and so on.

Meanwhile, two suggestions:
Whenever you can, perform slowly the necessary steps with VoiceOver and let the 
person look out for what you're doing. This way they will see exactly what they 
should do because even though you're working with VoiceOver, visually it will 
be the same.

Another suggestion, now regarding the list, we could start by adding icons that 
we already know from googling these stuff. For example, usually, the "Gear" 
icon will be the Settings button. Likewise the "Hamburger" or the "Three dots" 
icon will be the "More options" button. And the list goes on :)

Cheers, 
Marcio 
AKA Starboy


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Robin Frost wrote:

  Hi,
  Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a resource 
I and I’m certain others could benefit from.  I was with a sighted friend and 
someone was helping them with their phone and was explaining to them that the 
wi-fi symbol on the status line of the iPhone sort of looked like an umbrella.  
It underscored for me how differently sighted people experience their devices. 
Where we hear things verbally with little to no idea what the accompanying icon 
might look like. Conversely we might say do you see something on the screen 
that says “compose” to write a message when in fact they only have vision of an 
icon whose symbol depicts something like a pencil in a circle thus making it 
harder for us to at times be a help to sighted family or friends. as such I was 
wondering if anyone had ever compiled a list of iOS icons in terms of their 
verbal cues we hear with an accompanying description so that we could better 
communicate not just with loved ones we might be helping but also app 
developers should we be giving feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap 
between the language of the iOS experience as both groups know it to be. If 
such a thing exists I’d love to know of it or if someone would be willing to 
compile such it’d be greatly appreciated by many I’m sure.
  Thanks in advance.
  Take good care.
  Robin


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Re: Query about iOS icons

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Robin,
Wow, this would be wonderful if this list could be made. After this we 
could even expand it to Windows icons, Mac icons and so on.


Meanwhile, two suggestions:
Whenever you can, perform slowly the necessary steps with VoiceOver and 
let the person look out for what you're doing. This way they will see 
exactly what they should do because even though you're working with 
VoiceOver, visually it will be the same.


Another suggestion, now regarding the list, we could start by adding 
icons that we already know from googling these stuff. For example, 
usually, the "Gear" icon will be the Settings button. Likewise the 
"Hamburger" or the "Three dots" icon will be the "More options" button. 
And the list goes on :)


Cheers,
Marcio 
AKA /Starboy/


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Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a 
resource I and I’m certain others could benefit from.  I was with a 
sighted friend and someone was helping them with their phone and was 
explaining to them that the wi-fi symbol on the status line of the 
iPhone sort of looked like an umbrella.  It underscored for me how 
differently sighted people experience their devices. Where we hear 
things verbally with little to no idea what the accompanying icon 
might look like. Conversely we might say do you see something on the 
screen that says “compose” to write a message when in fact they only 
have vision of an icon whose symbol depicts something like a pencil in 
a circle thus making it harder for us to at times be a help to sighted 
family or friends. as such I was wondering if anyone had ever compiled 
a list of iOS icons in terms of their verbal cues we hear with an 
accompanying description so that we could better communicate not just 
with loved ones we might be helping but also app developers should we 
be giving feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap between the 
language of the iOS experience as both groups know it to be. If such a 
thing exists I’d love to know of it or if someone would be willing to 
compile such it’d be greatly appreciated by many I’m sure.

Thanks in advance.
Take good care.
Robin


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Re: seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter

['Marcio' via VIPhone]

Hi,
I was about to suggest precisely the same program :)
Works well. There are a few things to learn but nothing too hard.

Cheers,
Marcio 
AKA /Starboy/


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nancy Lynn wrote:
I don't know what you had before, but I've had pretty good luck with 
Pontes Media Downloader. A friend found it for me, so I can't tell you 
where to find it. As people would say today, just google it.

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com


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Re: A problem with I O S 12

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Kay,

What's happening is that the rotor is switching from Messages to Actions. You 
can turn it back to Messages and then flick down. Also, if you flick down to 
the next message and then flick down with two fingers to have it read, the 
rotor stays on Messages, so you can flick down to the next one without changing 
the rotor. If you flick right while reading a message, the rotor switches to 
Actions.

HTH,
Anna




> On Aug 31, 2019, at 8:49 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> For those of you that know me and have laughed because I refused to update to 
> I O S 12, Well, yesterday was the day.  It rained and thundered and Kay 
> updated her phone.  Actually, all went well.  Fortunately, I read enough from 
> you all that making the necessary changes was not difficult.  Everything 
> seems to have caught up and updated and over all, things are good.  I have 
> one minor problem.  Before in I O S 10, I had my email set up to thread 
> subjects.  When I was reading a thread, I would just double tap on it and the 
> messages would all open together as one.  I am not talking about expanding 
> them, just opening them.  When you finished reading one message you could 
> flick down and it would say something like message four of five and so on.  
> Now when I try to flick down to the next message I get stuff like, mark as 
> read, delete, activate and so forth.  What happened to moving from one 
> message to the next?  Even if you tap on the next message button you don't 
> really go there.  I know, I could expand the thread but if I don't have to, I 
> really don't want to.  Any help with this?  I guess I'll just stop sorting by 
> thread if I have to, but it is nice if you run across a thread you don't want 
> to wade through and you can just delete them all in one evil swoop.  Thanks 
> in advance.
>  
>  
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Re: A problem with I O S 12

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
While focus is on the message body, use the rotor counterclockwise to locate 
messages and then perform a one finger swipe up or down to change to the next 
message.



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On Aug 31, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Kay Malmquist 
mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
For those of you that know me and have laughed because I refused to update to I 
O S 12, Well, yesterday was the day.  It rained and thundered and Kay updated 
her phone.  Actually, all went well.  Fortunately, I read enough from you all 
that making the necessary changes was not difficult.  Everything seems to have 
caught up and updated and over all, things are good.  I have one minor problem. 
 Before in I O S 10, I had my email set up to thread subjects.  When I was 
reading a thread, I would just double tap on it and the messages would all open 
together as one.  I am not talking about expanding them, just opening them.  
When you finished reading one message you could flick down and it would say 
something like message four of five and so on.  Now when I try to flick down to 
the next message I get stuff like, mark as read, delete, activate and so forth. 
 What happened to moving from one message to the next?  Even if you tap on the 
next message button you don't really go there.  I know, I could expand the 
thread but if I don't have to, I really don't want to.  Any help with this?  I 
guess I'll just stop sorting by thread if I have to, but it is nice if you run 
across a thread you don't want to wade through and you can just delete them all 
in one evil swoop.  Thanks in advance.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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A problem with I O S 12

[Kay Malmquist]

Hi all,
For those of you that know me and have laughed because I refused to update 
to I O S 12, Well, yesterday was the day.  It rained and thundered and Kay 
updated her phone.  Actually, all went well.  Fortunately, I read enough 
from you all that making the necessary changes was not difficult. 
Everything seems to have caught up and updated and over all, things are 
good.  I have one minor problem.  Before in I O S 10, I had my email set up 
to thread subjects.  When I was reading a thread, I would just double tap on 
it and the messages would all open together as one.  I am not talking about 
expanding them, just opening them.  When you finished reading one message 
you could flick down and it would say something like message four of five 
and so on.  Now when I try to flick down to the next message I get stuff 
like, mark as read, delete, activate and so forth.  What happened to moving 
from one message to the next?  Even if you tap on the next message button 
you don't really go there.  I know, I could expand the thread but if I don't 
have to, I really don't want to.  Any help with this?  I guess I'll just 
stop sorting by thread if I have to, but it is nice if you run across a 
thread you don't want to wade through and you can just delete them all in 
one evil swoop.  Thanks in advance.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: BSI, what happened?

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi all!
So I have reset my settings and happily using BSI again! When I reset my phone 
voiceover came back on immediately without any issues. Granted it was slower 
than molasses but it still worked! lol
Thank you Maria and anyone else who answered my question!
Jen


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 30, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:

>> Also, you will have to connect back to your wifi since you reset all 
>> settings. 
>> 
>> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
>> will happily add you.
>> maria2...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope you have solved your problem by now, but if not, resetting all 
>> settings will fix it. When my BSI got completely messed up a couple years 
>> ago with symptoms similar to what you describe, that was the only way I 
>> found to fix it. Be forewarned that you may need sighted assistance to turn 
>> VoiceOver back on. Some have written to this list that VoiceOver eventually 
>> came back on after resetting all settings, mine did not. Siri also is 
>> disconected from the net, so it can't turn it back on, and when I hooked my 
>> phone to iTunes, it wanted me to respond on my phone that I trusted this 
>> computer, which I could not do with no VoiceOver. So, have sighted 
>> assistance backup if you need it. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>> 
>> That won't even work! lol 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 29, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Jennie  wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried recalibrating the dots?
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BSI, what happened?
>> 
>> Hi all. I am using the latest IOS version, the one that was just approved 
>> the other day? Before I updated it... my BSI all of a sudden stopped 
>> working. It's like my phone won't go in to screen away mode. I updated it 
>> thinking that would fix it... nope. I tried turning voiceover off then on. 
>> Nope. I tried unlocking orientation nope. I'm not even sure it works in 
>> table top mode. Any sugestions? 
>> Jen like
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Here's an option that might work for you.  With my iPhone 8 and my
Verizon carrier If I have Siri call my own phone number, my voice mail
comes up.  I enter my password for my voice mail and when I begin to
listen to the voice mail I want, I just move my phone away from my ear
as normal and it goes to speaker mode.  Good luck.

On 8/31/19, nancy Lynn  wrote:
> When Siri plays a voicemail message, put the phone to your ear instead of
> using it as a speaker phone. That’s what I do, and it works perfectly.
> Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
> From: Cher Bosch
> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 3:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!
>
> Is there another volume control for playing voice mails? Have tried physical
> volume button and rotor volume without improvement. Thanks for any
> suggestions.
>
>
>
> Cher
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Re: seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter

[l . d . ethier23]

I suggest you 3Dyoutube, it works well!

Lyne

> Le 31 août 2019 à 18:32, nancy Lynn  a écrit :
> 
> I don't know what you had before, but I've had pretty good luck with Pontes 
> Media Downloader. A friend found it for me, so I can't tell you where to find 
> it. As people would say today, just google it.
> Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
> -Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone
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> Subject: seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter
> 
> hi, I am looking for a reliable YouTube to MP3 converter. The one that I had 
> from several years ago no longer works for me. I am wondering if there are 
> any newer ones that people have had success with.
> Thanks in advance, Keith
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Re: Query about iOS icons

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone, 
Thanks for replying I feel a smidge less alone now. It really would be a 
valuable resource to have even if we google the instructions it’d be helpful to 
be able to say tap on the thing that looks like whatever shape it might be 
depicting.  Right now my sighted friend new to iPhone land is having difficulty 
getting himself to the composition or edit field for the body of his text 
message and for the life of me I don’t know how to help guide him there. But I 
did find a video on youtube for iPhone X beginners so perhaps that’ll help. But 
glad it isn’t just me who longs for such a resource even if it’d just give us 
the basic sense of the icons they’re seeing and what they might look like.
That should be Anna’s next book there we go ☺
Take good care.
Robin



From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Query about iOS icons

yes, I had exactly the same problem the other day, trying to explain to my 
sighted wife how to add a caller in the call list in the phone app to 
favourites. In the end I had to do it for her. 


Sent from my iPhone


  On 31 Aug 2019, at 22:34, Holly  wrote:


   
  Robin:

  What a great idea.  The other day I was trying to tell my sighted friend how 
to block a caller on her iPhone.

  Well, as you can guess, with Voice Over on the steps are totally different

  So, I just couldn’t figure out what to tell her until I did a Google search 
on how to do it.  Of course, all of the instructions were written out for a 
sighted user and they had to tap a symbol next to the call to get the menu with 
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Gadget recommendation: foot pedals to flick left and right.

[Matthew Bullis]

Hello, in looking for a gadget which would let me step on pedals to accomplish 
keyboard functions, I found
www.rjcooper.com
and his various adaptive switch controls. I don't get any commission or 
anything, so it's just a recommendation for this unit. I have the ability now 
to step with my lebt foot to flick left, and my right foot to flick right. If I 
hold the pedal down, it will wait a half second then quickly keep flicking in 
that direction. The unit has to be programmed with the keystroke you want that 
switch to perform when you order. The interface unit has several buttons on it, 
but you basically only press the power button. The unit has a screen and no 
beeps or audible feedback. Having this unit press the left and right arrows for 
me allows my fingers not to get so tired when constantly flicking right, and 
occasionally left. The whole package with shipping was $135. Enjoy if you 
decide to have RJ custom make you one, with whatever keystrokes you choose. He 
had not received this request before, so my setup was new to him, though he 
deals with many assistive tech needs, inclueing Voiceover. The arrival was 
about a week from initial phone consultation to having the unit in hand.
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Re: seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter

[nancy Lynn]

I don't know what you had before, but I've had pretty good luck with Pontes 
Media Downloader. A friend found it for me, so I can't tell you where to 
find it. As people would say today, just google it.

Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
-Original Message- 
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone

Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter

hi, I am looking for a reliable YouTube to MP3 converter. The one that I had 
from several years ago no longer works for me. I am wondering if there are 
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seeking recommendation for YouTube to MP3 converter

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi, I am looking for a reliable YouTube to MP3 converter. The one that I had 
from several years ago no longer works for me. I am wondering if there are any 
newer ones that people have had success with.
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Re: Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!

[nancy Lynn]

When Siri plays a voicemail message, put the phone to your ear instead of using 
it as a speaker phone. That’s what I do, and it works perfectly.
Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com
From: Cher Bosch 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 3:26 PM
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Subject: Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!

Is there another volume control for playing voice mails? Have tried physical 
volume button and rotor volume without improvement. Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Cher

 

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Re: I'm having trouble sending email from a POP account.

[Christopher Chaltain]

Who's the provider for this POP email account? Is it the same company 
that's providing your internet connection, such as Time Warner? I assume 
this POP email account is working from your PC. Does it work from your 
phone when you're on the same network as your PC? It used to be the 
case, and it may still be, that in order to prevent their servers from 
being used by evil doers, that you could only send email from systems on 
their networks.



Either way, the best thing to do will be to search the web for waht SMTP 
settings you should use on your phone for whoever's providing the POP 
email account you're trying to use.



On 8/31/19 3:08 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:

Hi.

I'm trying to get a POP account to send email on my iPhone using the native email 
app, but I'm having a problem. When I go to that account, and I attempt to send a 
message, I get an alert that the server doesn't accept relays, or something like 
that. Is there anything that I can do to fix this problem? I want to use this 
specific account to send email with for two reasons: I have a different "not 
that I have configured for this account, and when someone replies to these messages, 
I want them to go to the POP account. Is there any way I can do this on my iPhone? 
would an i map account be better? If so, I would need to get the settings for it. I 
have the POP account information on my PC, so this is why I did things the way I did.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kevin and Jilly


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Re: Query about iOS icons

[Alex Stone]

yes, I had exactly the same problem the other day, trying to explain to my 
sighted wife how to add a caller in the call list in the phone app to 
favourites. In the end I had to do it for her.

Sent from my iPhone

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Robin:

What a great idea.  The other day I was trying to tell my sighted friend how to 
block a caller on her iPhone.

Well, as you can guess, with Voice Over on the steps are totally different

So, I just couldn’t figure out what to tell her until I did a Google search on 
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Re: Query about iOS icons

[Holly]

Robin:

What a great idea.  The other day I was trying to tell my sighted friend how to 
block a caller on her iPhone.

Well, as you can guess, with Voice Over on the steps are totally different

So, I just couldn’t figure out what to tell her until I did a Google search on 
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sighted user and they had to tap a symbol next to the call to get the menu with 
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Query about iOS icons

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a resource I 
and I’m certain others could benefit from.  I was with a sighted friend and 
someone was helping them with their phone and was explaining to them that the 
wi-fi symbol on the status line of the iPhone sort of looked like an umbrella.  
It underscored for me how differently sighted people experience their devices. 
Where we hear things verbally with little to no idea what the accompanying icon 
might look like. Conversely we might say do you see something on the screen 
that says “compose” to write a message when in fact they only have vision of an 
icon whose symbol depicts something like a pencil in a circle thus making it 
harder for us to at times be a help to sighted family or friends. as such I was 
wondering if anyone had ever compiled a list of iOS icons in terms of their 
verbal cues we hear with an accompanying description so that we could better 
communicate not just with loved ones we might be helping but also app 
developers should we be giving feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap 
between the language of the iOS experience as both groups know it to be. If 
such a thing exists I’d love to know of it or if someone would be willing to 
compile such it’d be greatly appreciated by many I’m sure.
Thanks in advance.
Take good care.
Robin

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Re: Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!

[Richard Turner]

I do not think so. I use earphones.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 31, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Cher Bosch  wrote:


Is there another volume control for playing voice mails? Have tried physical 
volume button and rotor volume without improvement. Thanks for any suggestions.

Cher


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Asking Siri to play voice mailbut volume too low!

[Cher Bosch]

Is there another volume control for playing voice mails? Have tried physical
volume button and rotor volume without improvement. Thanks for any
suggestions.

 

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I'm having trouble sending email from a POP account.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I'm trying to get a POP account to send email on my iPhone using the native 
email app, but I'm having a problem. When I go to that account, and I attempt 
to send a message, I get an alert that the server doesn't accept relays, or 
something like that. Is there anything that I can do to fix this problem? I 
want to use this specific account to send email with for two reasons: I have a 
different "not that I have configured for this account, and when someone 
replies to these messages, I want them to go to the POP account. Is there any 
way I can do this on my iPhone? would an i map account be better? If so, I 
would need to get the settings for it. I have the POP account information on my 
PC, so this is why I did things the way I did.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Another AirPod Issue

[Duane Steele]

Anna, thanks for your suggestion.  That was also the only way I could get them 
to work again.  Seems we're both on the same page with this issue.


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 31, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hello Duane,
> 
> One of my AirPods stopped working the other day, and restarting the phone 
> didn't help. I had my phone forget the AirPods and connected them again, and 
> that fixed the problem. It sounds like you've already tried that, but I don't 
> know of anything else to suggest.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an AirPod question.  I'm hearing-impaired, yet still wear both 
>> airPods so that the sound goes to the center of my head.  However, sometimes 
>> the left pod which is in the defective ear turns on, and the right pod 
>> doesn't, and, try as I might, unless I forget and re-pair the AirPods, I 
>> can't rectify the situation.  Any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

[Bonnie Blose]

This rings a vague bell. My phone is about three and a half, so now I know I 
would not be eligible. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary Jo 
Partyka
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

 

Hi, Bonnie,

 

I found out by accident that I had lost my Apple Care after having it for two 
years.  The people at Apple Care explained that people can apply after 
purchasing a phone and can request another year at the same time.  However, 
after that, it disappears.  I am on it now because I purchased a new phone.  It 
should be something that people should be able to have all the time but it 
isn’t.

 

 

Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com  





On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Bonnie Blose mailto:bookmav...@frontier.com> > wrote:

 

I am not sure if I have Apple Care. I will have to check. Maybe I will work on 
this after  the Labor Day weekend. Thanks. Batteries have a life that ends like 
everything does. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

From: viphone@googlegroup  s.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Jo Partyka
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 5:51 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

 

Hi, Bonnie,

 

I was having trouble with my battery last year and it would normally go down to 
20% before the day was over each day.  I had the battery replaced last December 
but it didn’t work much better.  Since I wanted to have a reliable phone when I 
was going to the NFB convention, I bought a new one.  Do you still have Apple 
Care?  If you do, the cost of the battery should be minimal.  

 

 

Mary Jo Partyka
  choir...@gmail.com






On Aug 30, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Arnold Schmidt <  
als5...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bonnie, 

 

Unfortunately, the symptoms you describe may mean that your battery is 
beginning to fail. I have known them to be 30 or 40 percent charged, the phone 
just quits, and when plugged in, say some low digit percent. When I replaced 
the battery in this IPhone 6 in the spring, it went from about 40 percent at 
lunch to about 2 percent at 4 o'clock, having been used maybe half an hour's 
worth in the interveening time. I got the battery replaced at Batteries Plus 
for about 50 dollars. Being that your phone will update probably twice more, it 
would be worth replacing the battery since you like your phone.  If it does 
this sudden quitting again, that definitely is not a good sign. If I were you, 
I would take that other battery and cable along if I were going to be away from 
home for very long, in case it quits somewhere very inconvenient for it to do 
so. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

  als5...@gmail.com

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Bonnie Blose <  
bookmav...@frontier.com> wrote:

I would like to thank Deb Lewis for the steps she gave me in resurrecting what 
I thought for sure was a dead iPhone. I tried plugging it in to electric to 
recharge. First, when it finally came back on, it was at only 4 percent. Even 
the electric didn't seem to work, so I thought I would plug the phone in to a 
rechargeable battery I have that has a plug to recharge the iPhone 
specifically. It came back on, so I suspect that when I thought I was charging 
it that it was dead. 

Speech and voice over are back, so all is well. Thank you, Deb, so very much. I 
guess I like this phone more than I realize. It's terrific for email which I 
have just started using. 

 

Thank you as well for your willingness to help if I called today. That means a 
lot to me. 

Bonnie Blose

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 1:08 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trouble With IPhone

 

Well there are a few things to try for sure. 

The first thing I’d do is see whether it really turned itself off or just 
stopped talking. 

First, make sure it’s plugged in even if you think the battery is fine. 
Plugging it in will actually start it if it’s powered off in most cases. While 
you’re at it, and if it is plugged in, unplug it and replug it in. Note whether 
the little power noise happens.

This doesn’t guarantee anything I found with my last major problem, but try 
muting and unmuting it. If the phone has power, and if you can make it mute and 
unmute, you’ll get that little haptic on muting, this is another good indicator 
that you have power to it.

If you don’t have power to it, leave it plugged in for about 20 minutes and try 
all this again. 

So we’ve got power and 

Re: Another AirPod Issue

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Duane,

One of my AirPods stopped working the other day, and restarting the phone 
didn't help. I had my phone forget the AirPods and connected them again, and 
that fixed the problem. It sounds like you've already tried that, but I don't 
know of anything else to suggest.

Best,
Anna




> On Aug 31, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> I have an AirPod question.  I'm hearing-impaired, yet still wear both airPods 
> so that the sound goes to the center of my head.  However, sometimes the left 
> pod which is in the defective ear turns on, and the right pod doesn't, and, 
> try as I might, unless I forget and re-pair the AirPods, I can't rectify the 
> situation.  Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

[Mary Jo Partyka]

Hi, Bonnie,

I found out by accident that I had lost my Apple Care after having it for two 
years.  The people at Apple Care explained that people can apply after 
purchasing a phone and can request another year at the same time.  However, 
after that, it disappears.  I am on it now because I purchased a new phone.  It 
should be something that people should be able to have all the time but it 
isn’t.


Mary Jo Partyka
choir...@gmail.com


> On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Bonnie Blose  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure if I have Apple Care. I will have to check. Maybe I will work 
> on this after  the Labor Day weekend. Thanks. Batteries have a life that ends 
> like everything does. 
>  
> Bonnie Blose
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Mary Jo Partyka
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 5:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought
>  
> Hi, Bonnie,
>  
> I was having trouble with my battery last year and it would normally go down 
> to 20% before the day was over each day.  I had the battery replaced last 
> December but it didn’t work much better.  Since I wanted to have a reliable 
> phone when I was going to the NFB convention, I bought a new one.  Do you 
> still have Apple Care?  If you do, the cost of the battery should be minimal. 
>  
>  
>  
> Mary Jo Partyka
> choir...@gmail.com 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Arnold Schmidt > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Bonnie, 
>>  
>> Unfortunately, the symptoms you describe may mean that your battery is 
>> beginning to fail. I have known them to be 30 or 40 percent charged, the 
>> phone just quits, and when plugged in, say some low digit percent. When I 
>> replaced the battery in this IPhone 6 in the spring, it went from about 40 
>> percent at lunch to about 2 percent at 4 o'clock, having been used maybe 
>> half an hour's worth in the interveening time. I got the battery replaced at 
>> Batteries Plus for about 50 dollars. Being that your phone will update 
>> probably twice more, it would be worth replacing the battery since you like 
>> your phone.  If it does this sudden quitting again, that definitely is not a 
>> good sign. If I were you, I would take that other battery and cable along if 
>> I were going to be away from home for very long, in case it quits somewhere 
>> very inconvenient for it to do so. 
>>  
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> als5...@gmail.com 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Bonnie Blose > > wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to thank Deb Lewis for the steps she gave me in resurrecting 
>> what I thought for sure was a dead iPhone. I tried plugging it in to 
>> electric to recharge. First, when it finally came back on, it was at only 4 
>> percent. Even the electric didn't seem to work, so I thought I would plug 
>> the phone in to a rechargeable battery I have that has a plug to recharge 
>> the iPhone specifically. It came back on, so I suspect that when I thought I 
>> was charging it that it was dead. 
>> Speech and voice over are back, so all is well. Thank you, Deb, so very 
>> much. I guess I like this phone more than I realize. It's terrific for email 
>> which I have just started using. 
>>  
>> Thank you as well for your willingness to help if I called today. That means 
>> a lot to me. 
>> Bonnie Blose
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Deb Cook Lewis
>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 1:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Trouble With IPhone
>>  
>> Well there are a few things to try for sure. 
>> The first thing I’d do is see whether it really turned itself off or just 
>> stopped talking. 
>> First, make sure it’s plugged in even if you think the battery is fine. 
>> Plugging it in will actually start it if it’s powered off in most cases. 
>> While you’re at it, and if it is plugged in, unplug it and replug it in. 
>> Note whether the little power noise happens.
>> This doesn’t guarantee anything I found with my last major problem, but try 
>> muting and unmuting it. If the phone has power, and if you can make it mute 
>> and unmute, you’ll get that little haptic on muting, this is another good 
>> indicator that you have power to it.
>> If you don’t have power to it, leave it plugged in for about 20 minutes and 
>> try all this again. 
>> So we’ve got power and it mutes and unmutes, but still not talking. Plug in 
>> some headphones. Or if you have it paired to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, 
>> activate that. If that gets sound, but the speaker does not, we can go from 
>> there. 
>> If you know you have power, you can try turninging voiceover on and off if 
>> 

RE: new member

[Carolyn Arnold]

Good to have you, Nancy. I've had my SE for over a year and have learned so 
much from this list and also from the Hadley videos. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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nancy Lynn
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:42 AM
To: VIphone List 
Subject: new member

I just joined this list, and I’ll now introduce myself. I’m Nancy Lynn from St. 
Louis Missouri. I have an iPhone 7. I do pretty well with it, but there’s a lot 
I could learn. I’m glad to be on this list.
Nancy Lynn seabreeze@gmail.com

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RE: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

[Bonnie Blose]

I've been here for a long time but hadn't reached the level of fear and 
frustration I encountered yesterday. Thanks. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
elevegn...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

 

hi, Bonnie, it’s great to have you on this list. Take care and good luck. 
There’s a lot of information sources here. Esther

Sent From Esther’s Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Bonnie Blose mailto:bookmav...@frontier.com> > wrote:

I would like to thank Deb Lewis for the steps she gave me in resurrecting what 
I thought for sure was a dead iPhone. I tried plugging it in to electric to 
recharge. First, when it finally came back on, it was at only 4 percent. Even 
the electric didn't seem to work, so I thought I would plug the phone in to a 
rechargeable battery I have that has a plug to recharge the iPhone 
specifically. It came back on, so I suspect that when I thought I was charging 
it that it was dead. 

Speech and voice over are back, so all is well. Thank you, Deb, so very much. I 
guess I like this phone more than I realize. It's terrific for email which I 
have just started using. 

 

Thank you as well for your willingness to help if I called today. That means a 
lot to me. 

Bonnie Blose

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Deb 
Cook Lewis
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Trouble With IPhone

 

Well there are a few things to try for sure. 

The first thing I’d do is see whether it really turned itself off or just 
stopped talking. 

First, make sure it’s plugged in even if you think the battery is fine. 
Plugging it in will actually start it if it’s powered off in most cases. While 
you’re at it, and if it is plugged in, unplug it and replug it in. Note whether 
the little power noise happens.

This doesn’t guarantee anything I found with my last major problem, but try 
muting and unmuting it. If the phone has power, and if you can make it mute and 
unmute, you’ll get that little haptic on muting, this is another good indicator 
that you have power to it.

If you don’t have power to it, leave it plugged in for about 20 minutes and try 
all this again. 

So we’ve got power and it mutes and unmutes, but still not talking. Plug in 
some headphones. Or if you have it paired to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, 
activate that. If that gets sound, but the speaker does not, we can go from 
there. 

If you know you have power, you can try turninging voiceover on and off if 
you’ve set that up on triple click home.

If you still can’t get its attention, we’ll probably have to talk in prep for 
you to call Apple.

I’ve always been able ultimately to recover my phone, there are a few things 
that typically happen. But the very most recent time it was a total system fail 
and Apple had to replace it. Even that was a challenge, I had to use Rick’s 
phone to get into mine to turn off Find My Iphone for them. If we get to that 
miserable place, I can do that for you as well because it’s something they will 
not do. But we’re not to that yet. 

Let me know if none of this gets it, I’m home all day if you need to call.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bonnie Blose
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Trouble With IPhone

 

I was just listening to notifications when my phhone either locked or turned 
itself off. Is there anything I can do that might bring it back? I have an 
IPhone 7. Thanks. 

 

Bonnie Blose

 

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Re: new member

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Nancy, glad to have you on the list.  You will learn a lot.  This list
is great if you have a question.  I know I've learned a lot from
different people on this list.

On 8/31/19, elevegn...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:
> hi, Nancy Lynn, it’s great to have you on this list. You will learn a lot.
> It’s fabulous. Good luck. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther’s Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
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>> from St. Louis Missouri. I have an iPhone 7. I do pretty well with it, but
>> there’s a lot I could learn. I’m glad to be on this list.
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Re: Problem Solved, Guess I like This Phone More Than I Thought

[elevegnale]

hi, Bonnie, it’s great to have you on this list. Take care and good luck. 
There’s a lot of information sources here. Esther

Sent From Esther’s Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Bonnie Blose  wrote:
> 
> I would like to thank Deb Lewis for the steps she gave me in resurrecting 
> what I thought for sure was a dead iPhone. I tried plugging it in to electric 
> to recharge. First, when it finally came back on, it was at only 4 percent. 
> Even the electric didn't seem to work, so I thought I would plug the phone in 
> to a rechargeable battery I have that has a plug to recharge the iPhone 
> specifically. It came back on, so I suspect that when I thought I was 
> charging it that it was dead.
> Speech and voice over are back, so all is well. Thank you, Deb, so very much. 
> I guess I like this phone more than I realize. It's terrific for email which 
> I have just started using.
>  
> Thank you as well for your willingness to help if I called today. That means 
> a lot to me.
> Bonnie Blose
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb 
> Cook Lewis
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 1:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Trouble With IPhone
>  
> Well there are a few things to try for sure.
> The first thing I’d do is see whether it really turned itself off or just 
> stopped talking.
> First, make sure it’s plugged in even if you think the battery is fine. 
> Plugging it in will actually start it if it’s powered off in most cases. 
> While you’re at it, and if it is plugged in, unplug it and replug it in. Note 
> whether the little power noise happens.
> This doesn’t guarantee anything I found with my last major problem, but try 
> muting and unmuting it. If the phone has power, and if you can make it mute 
> and unmute, you’ll get that little haptic on muting, this is another good 
> indicator that you have power to it.
> If you don’t have power to it, leave it plugged in for about 20 minutes and 
> try all this again.
> So we’ve got power and it mutes and unmutes, but still not talking. Plug in 
> some headphones. Or if you have it paired to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, 
> activate that. If that gets sound, but the speaker does not, we can go from 
> there.
> If you know you have power, you can try turninging voiceover on and off if 
> you’ve set that up on triple click home.
> If you still can’t get its attention, we’ll probably have to talk in prep for 
> you to call Apple.
> I’ve always been able ultimately to recover my phone, there are a few things 
> that typically happen. But the very most recent time it was a total system 
> fail and Apple had to replace it. Even that was a challenge, I had to use 
> Rick’s phone to get into mine to turn off Find My Iphone for them. If we get 
> to that miserable place, I can do that for you as well because it’s something 
> they will not do. But we’re not to that yet.
> Let me know if none of this gets it, I’m home all day if you need to call.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bonnie Blose
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 9:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Trouble With IPhone
>  
> I was just listening to notifications when my phhone either locked or turned 
> itself off. Is there anything I can do that might bring it back? I have an 
> IPhone 7. Thanks.
>  
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Re: new member

[elevegnale]

hi, Nancy Lynn, it’s great to have you on this list. You will learn a lot. It’s 
fabulous. Good luck. Esther

Sent From Esther’s Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Aug 31, 2019, at 2:42 AM, nancy Lynn  wrote:
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> St. Louis Missouri. I have an iPhone 7. I do pretty well with it, but there’s 
> a lot I could learn. I’m glad to be on this list.
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Re: Need a beginner Mac list

[Marie]

Thanks, got signed up.
Marie


From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 12:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Need a beginner Mac list

Hello Marie, 
The longest running Mac discussion list is Mac Visionaries, and is run by the 
same people as this list. You should get all the help you need there.
Send an email to the Mac Visionaries list moderator, Mark Taylor.  You can 
reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu

Cheers,

Anne




  On 30 Aug 2019, at 05:39, Marie  wrote:

  Could anyone please give me the name of a Mac list for newbies?
  Thanks, Marie

  The real definition of "never mind" is "you should've understood me the first 
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Re: new member

[Keao Wright]

welcome to the list nancy!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2019, at 4:15 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> Nancy. Welcome to the list! I’ve been with iOS since mid 2012, thus if 
> there‘s anything we can help out with, ask away!  There’s so much you can do 
> with these phones!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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> El 31 ago 2019, a la(s) 1:42 a. m., nancy Lynn  
> escribió:
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>> St. Louis Missouri. I have an iPhone 7. I do pretty well with it, but 
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Re: new member

[Gerardo Corripio]

Nancy. Welcome to the list! I’ve been with iOS since mid 2012, thus if there‘s 
anything we can help out with, ask away!  There’s so much you can do with these 
phones!

Gera
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Another AirPod Issue

[Duane Steele]

I have an AirPod question.  I'm hearing-impaired, yet still wear both airPods 
so that the sound goes to the center of my head.  However, sometimes the left 
pod which is in the defective ear turns on, and the right pod doesn't, and, try 
as I might, unless I forget and re-pair the AirPods, I can't rectify the 
situation.  Any suggestions?


Peace & Blessings,
Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: new member

[Georgi]

welcome Nancy.

Georgi

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new member

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I just joined this list, and I’ll now introduce myself. I’m Nancy Lynn from St. 
Louis Missouri. I have an iPhone 7. I do pretty well with it, but there’s a lot 
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