Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue

[englishrider91]

Wasn't this sighted as a new feature in iOS 13? I don't know if my UE Boom 
speaker just has too old of a bluetooth version to make this work, but VO still 
comes out of it when I connect it to my iPhone. If this is indeed a new 
feature, I think it should be optional, maybe with a rotor toggle to control 
it. I often want to play music or audio books using my speaker, but don't want 
VO coming out of it. To me, Airplay is an unsatisfactory answer to the problem. 
If I can do things like route music to one destination and my screen reader to 
another, I should be able to do this on my iPhone. Yes, I know Windows and iOS 
are totally different operating systems, but I should think this would be 
possible; it doesn't seem all that complicated a thing to tackle.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:20 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Its an issue with IOS 13.  That is one reason why I'm not updating my
> iPhone 8 as of yet.  I like voice over coming out of my bose revolve
> plus.
> 
>> On 12/29/19, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> Greetings friends.I can’t remember if this issue was resolved. I was given a
>> Bose speaker for Christmas and though I can connect it and it will play
>> music voiceover remains on my phone and not on the speaker. I have also
>> downloaded the Bose Connect app and that did not resolve the issue. Has this
>> issue been resolved or is it something I have to wait for in the next iOS
>> update question mark
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

[Debbie April Yuille]

What voice are you using? Also what device do you have?

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Davy 
Cuppens
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2019 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

Even that won't help me here, it crashes and crashes.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

I've found that it's random. Some times it crashes and some times it doesn't. 
However, it's least likely to crash when you navigate after letting VO finish 
speaking the page loading progress.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2019 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

It must be different because when I first updated to version 251 or whichever 
it was I also experienced this, but in the last few days this has gone 
completely away for me. It almost seems like it was a server issue. I can now 
open Facebook, be on the Newsfeed tab and swipe through the items forward and 
backward and do whatever I want, go to the Notifications tab or Market Place 
and back to News Feed and I'm never kicked out any more.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

It is true on my end. It seems the bug is different on different devices.


I have not had any issues in the most recent section of the tab.

Don’t go making assumptions. I was gibing a fix that works for my device.

Maybe your statement is false.

Ed

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>
> Hi folks hi Ed
>
> I am sorry to report to the group that what Ed is experiencing is not 
> true.
>
> I have tried exactly what he told us and yeah after one minute of a 
> bunch of scrollings I flew back to the home screen. So the problem is 
> everywhere in the newspaper.
>
> Please I very strongly recommend all facebook users to complain and 
> report about this tramendous bug.
> Regards
> Davy
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ed Worrell
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:36 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
> update
>
> Hello All,
>
> I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook 
> menu tab in the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in the 
> “Most Recent” view the app no longer crashes, but if you try and go 
> back to the newsfeed tab in the bottom left corner the app promptly 
> crashes back to the home screen.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Ed
>
>
>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I’ve seen this issue as of today.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing 
>>> wrong with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!
>>>
>>> From: Feliciano Godoy
>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
>>> update
>>>
>>> Sieghard ,
>>> Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off as 
>>> if you do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by the 
>>> way, simply providing some feedback.
>>>
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates:
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>>> those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are 
>>> the ones who do. -Steve Jobs
>>>
 On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 
 Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no 
 reply! 藍
 I haven’t seen this one, either.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Feliciano Godoy
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
 update

 Hi Debbie,
 Are you experiencing this issue with and without Wi-Fi internet 
 connection? Ssometimes, this behavior is caused by a bad Internet 
 connection. Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
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 On Dec 19, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Davy Cuppens 
 wrote:

 
 Hi folks

 Build number: fb 251.0 has been issued for 19 hours now.
 System: iphone xr 64 GB 

Re: Thanks and a question

[Richard Turner]

This is the link to Voice Dream Reader. It may not be on sale now, but still is 
a great app.


https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader/id496177674




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 29, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Anne West  wrote:


Thanks Richard. I found several options in the app store but I think the $6.99 
app could have been the right one. I’ll check again and hope I get the correct 
app.

Anne

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 20:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and a question

Voice Dream Reader is an app for reading books or playing audio files, or 
reading pretty much any text based document.
It may still be on sale for around half price today, along with his OCR app, 
Voice Dream Scanner.
Voice Dream Reader works great with Bookshare books, and if you check on 
Applevis.com you can find lots of detail.
It is normally $14.99 but there was a sale on through today, but I'm not sure 
what time the sale ends.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner



On Dec 28, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Anne West 
mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

No. What’s that?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 20:24
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

Do you have Voice Dream Reader?
You could get the file into Voice Dream Reader and handle the rewind and fast 
forward by 15 seconds, 30, seconds, 1 minute which should do it for you.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

Thanks Kathy. I agree. There is no way to adjust rewind in voice memos. I don’t 
have a digital recorder but I’m thinking of investing in one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 14:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and a question

Welcome, and. The only thing I didn’t find easy about using Voice Memos to 
record minutes was being able to control the rate of rewind when going over a 
specific part; otherwise, I liked it, but went back to using an Olympus 
recorder for minutes.

On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Anne West 
mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Okay. I can find the record button in voice memos but have a difficult time 
stopping the recording. I also silence my phone during meetings so voice over 
doesn’t speak notifications that come in. Like I said, nothing is simple stupid 
anymore.

Anne

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

Anne,
As Sieghard said, what issues are you having with Voice Memos?

Another free app to try that gives excellent recording quality is Dolby ON.
You can save to DropBox in M4a format, I don’t think MP3 is an option.
After you record a track, you can rename it, then double tap on share, then on 
More audio apps, then save to Dropbox is one of the choices.
A little tedious to get to the save, but the sound quality is excellent.
Here is the app store link:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dolby-on-record-audio-video/id1443964192


Richard

 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard 

Re: Recommendation for An Apple-Layout Bluetooth Keyboard?

[Holly]

Apple Magic wireless keyboard.

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Re: Recommendation for An Apple-Layout Bluetooth Keyboard?

[Daniel MacDonald]

Try the Apple.  Wireless keyboard. It’s built solid and is dribble.
Daniel


> On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> May I have Recommendation for An Apple-Layout Bluetooth Keyboard, please?
> Thanks!
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Recommendation for An Apple-Layout Bluetooth Keyboard?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

May I have Recommendation for An Apple-Layout Bluetooth Keyboard, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Anne West]

Agree! It’s a new bug and Apple should fix it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 15:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

 

That is not really an acceptable or practical work-around unless you only use 
SIRI once or twice a day. The way I use SIRI this would be pretty much 
impossible since often and especially when I am out and about my phone is in my 
belt holster and, now that it’s winter in Northern British Columbia, under a 
jacket and often mid-layer. I use the remote on the Earpods probably at least 
half the time or more. When I am at home or in my office and the phone is on 
the desk in front of me I often use “Hey SIRI “ to bring up SIRI and to first 
wake up the phone to turn off speech with a 2-finger double tap would be 
entirely too much and it’s not like Apple couldn’t fix this issue.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

 

Turn off speech before invoking Siri.

 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:

Yes. I have noticed some VoiceOver conflict with Siri when first asking Siri a 
question or to perform a command. 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

Hello.
Even after updating to 13.3, when I press the side button on the X S Max, 
Voiceover will start chattering away, making it impossible to speak a request 
to Siri.
After a bit, things seem to settle down, but I am just wondering if anyone is 
pexperiencing this annoying behavior.
Thanks.

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RE: Thanks and a question

[Anne West]

Thanks Richard. I found several options in the app store but I think the $6.99 
app could have been the right one. I’ll check again and hope I get the correct 
app.

 

Anne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 20:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and a question

 

Voice Dream Reader is an app for reading books or playing audio files, or 
reading pretty much any text based document. 

It may still be on sale for around half price today, along with his OCR app, 
Voice Dream Scanner.

Voice Dream Reader works great with Bookshare books, and if you check on 
Applevis.com you can find lots of detail.

It is normally $14.99 but there was a sale on through today, but I'm not sure 
what time the sale ends.

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Dec 28, 2019, at 5:32 PM, Anne West mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

No. What’s that?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 20:24
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

 

Do you have Voice Dream Reader?

You could get the file into Voice Dream Reader and handle the rewind and fast 
forward by 15 seconds, 30, seconds, 1 minute which should do it for you.

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anne 
West
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 5:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

 

Thanks Kathy. I agree. There is no way to adjust rewind in voice memos. I don’t 
have a digital recorder but I’m thinking of investing in one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Brandt
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 14:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Thanks and a question

 

Welcome, and. The only thing I didn’t find easy about using Voice Memos to 
record minutes was being able to control the rate of rewind when going over a 
specific part; otherwise, I liked it, but went back to using an Olympus 
recorder for minutes.


On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:29 PM, Anne West mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Okay. I can find the record button in voice memos but have a difficult time 
stopping the recording. I also silence my phone during meetings so voice over 
doesn’t speak notifications that come in. Like I said, nothing is simple stupid 
anymore.

 

Anne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

 

Anne,

As Sieghard said, what issues are you having with Voice Memos?

 

Another free app to try that gives excellent recording quality is Dolby ON.

You can save to DropBox in M4a format, I don’t think MP3 is an option.

After you record a track, you can rename it, then double tap on share, then on 
More audio apps, then save to Dropbox is one of the choices.

A little tedious to get to the save, but the sound quality is excellent.

Here is the app store link:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dolby-on-record-audio-video/id1443964192 

 

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Thanks and a question

 

Could you explain what you find difficult about the Voice Memos app and what 
features you 

RE: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also find it interesting how something which has been the status quo at least 
ever since I bought my first iPod Touch Third Gen in 2009 now suddenly should 
no longer be so.
Bluetooth always has routed all audio including Voiceover and system sounds to 
any Bluetooth device and it's only in iOS 13 and with some speakers where this 
is no longer happening.
In the case of the person who has several Bose products and where Voiceover and 
system sounds no longer comes to the speaker this is a disaster and she wished 
it were back to what it was before.
To a few others it's a welcome change even though it's by far not a new feature 
since it seems on most Bluetooth speakers it is still as it always has been, 
i.e. Voiceover, system sounds and any audio stream which is playing come 
through the speaker.
If Apple could make it an easy feature which one could turn on or off then 
fine, I have no problem with that, but as it is it seems to be a bug which 
affects some devices.
As for sighted people not wanting to hear Voiceover blasting out over the 
speaker, if a Voiceover user is using their device and is with several others 
who may not like this he or she can always mute Voiceover or turn it off 
altogether once whatever audio is playing.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; alia robinson 
Subject: Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

IMHO, all audio, including voiceOver should go through a bluetooth speaker or 
head phones by default. If you don't want VoiceOver to go through an external 
speaker then use Air Play or Chrome Cast. Of course, if Apple could add a 
feature where you could send media to one bluetooth device while sending 
VoiceOver somewhere else then that would be a nice feature.


On 12/29/19 2:59 PM, alia robinson wrote:
> true, and what sighted user is going to want to hear vo blasting through a 
> speaker if you’re playing media? to me this is not a bug, but a welcome 
> change.
>
> On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM,   wrote:
>
> This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users 
> of VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play 
> through a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a 
> user to adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, 
> from their phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the most 
> sense to me.
>
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Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

[l . d . ethier23]

Strange, for me it's an issu too for one of my iPhone but for the one that I 
use for work, nothing, it works!

Lyne

> Le 29 déc. 2019 à 14:58, Davy Cuppens  a écrit :
> 
> Even that won't help me here, it crashes and crashes.
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Debbie April Yuille
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> I've found that it's random. Some times it crashes and some times it doesn't. 
> However, it's least likely to crash when you navigate after letting VO finish 
> speaking the page loading progress.
> 
> Debbie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2019 5:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> It must be different because when I first updated to version 251 or whichever 
> it was I also experienced this, but in the last few days this has gone 
> completely away for me. It almost seems like it was a server issue. I can now 
> open Facebook, be on the Newsfeed tab and swipe through the items forward and 
> backward and do whatever I want, go to the Notifications tab or Market Place 
> and back to News Feed and I'm never kicked out any more.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
> Worrell
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 2:23 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> It is true on my end. It seems the bug is different on different devices.
> 
> 
> I have not had any issues in the most recent section of the tab.
> 
> Don’t go making assumptions. I was gibing a fix that works for my device.
> 
> Maybe your statement is false.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks hi Ed
>> 
>> I am sorry to report to the group that what Ed is experiencing is not true.
>> 
>> I have tried exactly what he told us and yeah after one minute of a bunch of 
>> scrollings I flew back to the home screen. So the problem is everywhere in 
>> the newspaper.
>> 
>> Please I very strongly recommend all facebook users to complain and report 
>> about this tramendous bug.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:36 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
>> update
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook menu tab 
>> in the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in the “Most Recent” 
>> view the app no longer crashes, but if you try and go back to the newsfeed 
>> tab in the bottom left corner the app promptly crashes back to the home 
>> screen.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve seen this issue as of today.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 
 
 O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing wrong 
 with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!
 
 From: Feliciano Godoy
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
 update
 
 Sieghard ,
 Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off as if 
 you do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by the way, 
 simply providing some feedback.
 
 Feliciano
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> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no
> reply! 藍
> I haven’t seen this one, either.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
> update
> 
> Hi Debbie,
> Are you experiencing this issue with and without Wi-Fi internet
> connection? Ssometimes, this behavior is caused by a bad Internet 
> connection. Feliciano For tech tips and updates:
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> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> Build 

What Does Show Media Controls Routes Available Mean?

[Shirley Baker]

I was in the control center and I found show media controls.Routes available. 
What does this mean please?Thank you.

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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Duane Steele]

Well, since I started this present discussion, I'll summarize what I've 
learned.  First, let me clarify one point.  The Bose speaker was a gift, and 
I'm aware of, and I have other speakers that allow VO to play through them.  
Second, I am hearing that I cannot listen to anything but media in the Bose 
speaker even when using the Bose Connect APP.  Finally, I still believe there 
should be a toggle option so that when you are playing media, you can turn off 
VO from the speaker as it stands now.  Thanks for all the input on this subject.

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> IMHO, all audio, including voiceOver should go through a bluetooth speaker 
> or head phones by default. If you don't want VoiceOver to go through an 
> external speaker then use Air Play or Chrome Cast. Of course, if Apple could 
> add a feature where you could send media to one bluetooth device while 
> sending VoiceOver somewhere else then that would be a nice feature.
> 
> 
>>> On 12/29/19 2:59 PM, alia robinson wrote:
>> true, and what sighted user is going to want to hear vo blasting through a 
>> speaker if you’re playing media? to me this is not a bug, but a welcome 
>> change.
>>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM,   
>>> wrote:
>> This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users 
>> of VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play 
>> through a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a 
>> user to adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, 
>> from their phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the 
>> most sense to me.
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Re: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Holly]

sieghard:

Done!

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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Christopher Chaltain]

IMHO, all audio, including voiceOver should go through a bluetooth 
speaker or head phones by default. If you don't want VoiceOver to go 
through an external speaker then use Air Play or Chrome Cast. Of course, 
if Apple could add a feature where you could send media to one bluetooth 
device while sending VoiceOver somewhere else then that would be a nice 
feature.



On 12/29/19 2:59 PM, alia robinson wrote:

true, and what sighted user is going to want to hear vo blasting through a 
speaker if you’re playing media? to me this is not a bug, but a welcome change.

On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM,   wrote:

This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users of 
VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play through 
a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a user to 
adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, from their 
phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the most sense to me.


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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Mary Otten]

I think it should be a toggle. Generally, I think this is a great change. I do 
not ever want to hear voiceover through a Bluetooth speaker. But I understand 
there are use cases for it. So I think the best solution would be a toggle. I 
don’t see that this is at all the same as plugging in a headset. Often, people 
use Bluetooth speakers somore than one person can listen. There is a training 
scenario where voiceover would be useful in such cases, but there is also an 
equally valid scenario where absolutely no one wants to hear voiceover over the 
speaker interrupting the entertainment. it seems ridiculous to expect someone 
to purchase an airplay speaker, if they have a nice Bluetooth speaker which 
meets the entertainment need.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 1:00 PM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> true, and what sighted user is going to want to hear vo blasting through a 
> speaker if you’re playing media? to me this is not a bug, but a welcome 
> change.
> 
> On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM,   wrote:
> 
> This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users 
> of VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play 
> through a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a 
> user to adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, 
> from their phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the most 
> sense to me.
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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[alia robinson]

true, and what sighted user is going to want to hear vo blasting through a 
speaker if you’re playing media? to me this is not a bug, but a welcome change.

On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM,   wrote:

This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users of 
VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play through 
a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a user to 
adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, from their 
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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Duane Steele]

Perhaps this should be an optional situation.  Sometimes VO is okay left on the 
phone.  But then, when important notifications come in, they are missed because 
they don't get heard on the bluetooth speaker.  Sometimes, you would like to 
hear important texts through the speaker.  I'll say this however.  Updating the 
phone will still allow you to hear your music through your speaker.  VO should 
definitely be a preference.

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 3:30 PM, terri...@gmail.com wrote:
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RE: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Holly,

And I do hope you have sent an email to 
accessibil...@apple.com to report it? Only if 
many do this will it be prioritized. If Apple doesn’t get a few dozen emails 
from people complaining about it they may not do anything.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Sieghard:

I totally agree with you.  This is a very annoying bug, and Apple should fix it.
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RE: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you want that you can get an Airplay capable speaker which does exactly what 
you say. I personally completely agree that with a Bluetooth speaker Voiceover 
and all sounds should come over the speaker, after all, if you plug in a 
headset or wired speaker you don't expect just the music to come over the 
speaker and Voiceover to stay on the device. Many Bluetooth speakers have 
microphones and you can have your phone charging somewhere while listening to 
music or an audio book elsewhere, but in that case I prefer to also hear 
notifications on the speaker, hear Voiceover announcing an incoming call etc.
This is obviously a bug which affects Bose and a few other devices, I 
personally don't have any devices which do this. Both my Wonderboom 2 and my 
Outdoor Tech Turtle speakers play all audio via the speaker and so do my 
headphones, a Logitech H800, an Aftershokz Air and a Plantronics Edge.
A good friend of mine has a Bose speaker (not sure which one), but I'll maybe 
ask him to bring it tonight since he is coming here for dinner and I'll connect 
to it and see what happens.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
terri...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users of 
VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play through 
a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a user to 
adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, from their 
phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the most sense to me.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

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Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:17 PM
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Subject: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue

Greetings friends.I can’t remember if this issue was resolved. I was given a 
Bose speaker for Christmas and though I can connect it and it will play music 
voiceover remains on my phone and not on the speaker. I have also downloaded 
the Bose Connect app and that did not resolve the issue. Has this issue been 
resolved or is it something I have to wait for in the next iOS update question 
mark

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Holly]

Sieghard:

I totally agree with you.  This is a very annoying bug, and Apple should fix it.

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RE: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue with external speaker

[territek]

This is truly funny. I believe it was a year or so ago that many blind users of 
VO demanded that VO stay with the iPhone and music and other media play through 
a Bluetooth speaker. This made a lot of sense because it allowed a user to 
adjust volume and other settings, select a play list or source, etc, from their 
phone without blasting VO through the speaker. This makes the most sense to me.
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
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Steele
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:17 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue

Greetings friends.I can’t remember if this issue was resolved. I was given a 
Bose speaker for Christmas and though I can connect it and it will play music 
voiceover remains on my phone and not on the speaker. I have also downloaded 
the Bose Connect app and that did not resolve the issue. Has this issue been 
resolved or is it something I have to wait for in the next iOS update question 
mark

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Sorry about the problem with my post.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And one easy way to eliminate the router/modem is to pull the plug, wait 30 
seconds and plug it back in. Wait at least 3 minutes (many routers take that 
long to boot up and reconnect) and then see if that helps.
Back in September a friend from Germany was visiting and he said his partner 
suddenly could only do certain things online. I think she could call him using 
WhatsApp, receive email but not send email or browse the web. I told him to 
tell her to reboot the router and at first he scoffed at that suggestion saying 
that how can it be the router if she can do some things but not others. The 
next day he told me that he asked her to do it anyways and bingo, after she 
plugged it back in all was back to normal. Routers are also devices with an 
operating system where things get messed up and while they are usually able to 
run for long periods without any intervention, an occasional reboot never hurts 
and if there is any sort of connectivity issue that is the very first thing I 
do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sorry about the problem with my post.

I  considered sending this message earlier but didn't, I wish I had. It sounded 
to me as if it were a problem on their end, not yours. If it had been working 
fine, then suddenly didn't, it usually is some kind of situation on their end. 
I would have suggested waiting a little while and see if it straightened itself 
out, or calling them to see if there is some kind of network problem. And, it 
got straightened out, it wasn't anything you did wrong  at all. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Dec 29, 2019, at 1:20 PM, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
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Sent from my iPhone Hi. Sorry about the putting my message body in the subject 
line. I know car probably caused a lot of problems with folks trying to read 
it. This time I know better. Anyway, all of a sudden I am getting Wi-Fi 
connection. I don’t know what happened but I’m glad it’s fixed. Thanks for all 
the help!





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Re: Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Its an issue with IOS 13.  That is one reason why I'm not updating my
iPhone 8 as of yet.  I like voice over coming out of my bose revolve
plus.

On 12/29/19, Duane Steele  wrote:
> Greetings friends.I can’t remember if this issue was resolved. I was given a
> Bose speaker for Christmas and though I can connect it and it will play
> music voiceover remains on my phone and not on the speaker. I have also
> downloaded the Bose Connect app and that did not resolve the issue. Has this
> issue been resolved or is it something I have to wait for in the next iOS
> update question mark
>
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Resolving a Bluetooth and voiceover issue

[Duane Steele]

Greetings friends.I can’t remember if this issue was resolved. I was given a 
Bose speaker for Christmas and though I can connect it and it will play music 
voiceover remains on my phone and not on the speaker. I have also downloaded 
the Bose Connect app and that did not resolve the issue. Has this issue been 
resolved or is it something I have to wait for in the next iOS update question 
mark

Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is not really an acceptable or practical work-around unless you only use 
SIRI once or twice a day. The way I use SIRI this would be pretty much 
impossible since often and especially when I am out and about my phone is in my 
belt holster and, now that it’s winter in Northern British Columbia, under a 
jacket and often mid-layer. I use the remote on the Earpods probably at least 
half the time or more. When I am at home or in my office and the phone is on 
the desk in front of me I often use “Hey SIRI “ to bring up SIRI and to first 
wake up the phone to turn off speech with a 2-finger double tap would be 
entirely too much and it’s not like Apple couldn’t fix this issue.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

Turn off speech before invoking Siri.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM Carolyn 
<4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Yes. I have noticed some VoiceOver conflict with Siri when first asking Siri a 
question or to perform a command.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Fettgather
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

Hello.
Even after updating to 13.3, when I press the side button on the X S Max, 
Voiceover will start chattering away, making it impossible to speak a request 
to Siri.
After a bit, things seem to settle down, but I am just wondering if anyone is 
pexperiencing this annoying behavior.
Thanks.

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Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

[Davy Cuppens]

Even that won't help me here, it crashes and crashes.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Debbie April Yuille

Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 3:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

I've found that it's random. Some times it crashes and some times it 
doesn't. However, it's least likely to crash when you navigate after letting 
VO finish speaking the page loading progress.


Debbie

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Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2019 5:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

It must be different because when I first updated to version 251 or 
whichever it was I also experienced this, but in the last few days this has 
gone completely away for me. It almost seems like it was a server issue. I 
can now open Facebook, be on the Newsfeed tab and swipe through the items 
forward and backward and do whatever I want, go to the Notifications tab or 
Market Place and back to News Feed and I'm never kicked out any more.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell

Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 2:23 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

It is true on my end. It seems the bug is different on different devices.


I have not had any issues in the most recent section of the tab.

Don’t go making assumptions. I was gibing a fix that works for my device.

Maybe your statement is false.

Ed


On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:

Hi folks hi Ed

I am sorry to report to the group that what Ed is experiencing is not 
true.


I have tried exactly what he told us and yeah after one minute of a bunch 
of scrollings I flew back to the home screen. So the problem is everywhere 
in the newspaper.


Please I very strongly recommend all facebook users to complain and report 
about this tramendous bug.

Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ed Worrell
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:36 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
update

Hello All,

I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook menu 
tab in the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in the “Most 
Recent” view the app no longer crashes, but if you try and go back to the 
newsfeed tab in the bottom left corner the app promptly crashes back to 
the home screen.


I hope this helps.

Ed


On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


I’ve seen this issue as of today.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:


O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing wrong 
with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!


From: Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
update

Sieghard ,
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off as if 
you do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by the way, 
simply providing some feedback.


Feliciano
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On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no
reply! 藍
I haven’t seen this one, either.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb
update

Hi Debbie,
Are you experiencing this issue with and without Wi-Fi internet
connection? Ssometimes, this behavior is caused by a bad Internet 
connection. Feliciano For tech tips and updates:

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On Dec 19, 2019, at 12:07 PM, Davy Cuppens  
wrote:



Hi folks

Build number: fb 251.0 has been issued for 19 hours now.
System: iphone xr 64 GB ios12.4.1
After working with the program with voiceover on an iphone xr, after 30 
seconds or so, the program closes itselves and you are brought back to 
the home screen.
Please do test this. I’ve already restarted my phone but not yet 
deleted and reinstall the app I’ll wait for that after testings.

Regards
Davy
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Re: Sorry about the problem with my post.

[Arnold Schmidt]

I  considered sending this message earlier but didn't, I wish I had. It sounded 
to me as if it were a problem on their end, not yours. If it had been working 
fine, then suddenly didn't, it usually is some kind of situation on their end. 
I would have suggested waiting a little while and see if it straightened itself 
out, or calling them to see if there is some kind of network problem. And, it 
got straightened out, it wasn't anything you did wrong  at all. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone Six

On Dec 29, 2019, at 1:20 PM, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
 wrote:



Sent from my iPhone Hi. Sorry about the putting my message body in the subject 
line. I know car probably caused a lot of problems with folks trying to read 
it. This time I know better. Anyway, all of a sudden I am getting Wi-Fi 
connection. I don’t know what happened but I’m glad it’s fixed. Thanks for all 
the help!





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Re: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting

[DJ]

Turn off speech before invoking Siri.

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Yes. I have noticed some VoiceOver conflict with Siri when first asking
> Siri a question or to perform a command.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 7:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and Voiceover Conflicting
>
> Hello.
> Even after updating to 13.3, when I press the side button on the X S Max,
> Voiceover will start chattering away, making it impossible to speak a
> request to Siri.
> After a bit, things seem to settle down, but I am just wondering if anyone
> is pexperiencing this annoying behavior.
> Thanks.
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Accessible family tree app

[Tom's Gmail]

Tom frank
Dictated on my iPhone
The message  is mine, the errors I blame on Siri. I’m looking for inaccessible 
family tree app for my phone and my Macintosh. Any ideas?

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Sorry about the problem with my post.

['EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone]

Sent from my iPhone Hi. Sorry about the putting my message body in the subject 
line. I know car probably caused a lot of problems with folks trying to read 
it. This time I know better. Anyway, all of a sudden I am getting Wi-Fi 
connection. I don’t know what happened but I’m glad it’s fixed. Thanks for all 
the help!





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RE: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[territek]

Check to see if your connection is running in "Low Data mode." If so, change it.

-Original Message-
From: 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my 
Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download 
anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or anything like 
that. I can send messages o

Hi Jen. Yes I forgot to mention that I did try resetting the network settings 
and nothing happened. So I’m kind of at a loss. No my computer does not work 
either so it’s got to be something with the router I would think! Thank you for 
your help


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
> to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
> have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
> 
> Jenn' 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
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RE: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[Alan Lemly]

Eva,

I'm curious what the status bar tells you about your wifi connection and the 
number of bars you're getting. Also, if I want to quickly prod my wifi, I open 
the control center by placing focus on the status bar, doing a 3-finger swipe 
up, swiping to airplane mode and turning it on then off again. A scrub gesture 
will close the control center and return you to your previous location.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my 
Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download 
anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or anything like 
that. I can send message...

oops, I didn�t realize that my message was in the subject line.   I did check 
the network and the other things that use my Wi-Fi are running fine. So I don�t 
quite understand what�s going on. It�s like only the phone is having problems. 
And I have like I said check the network settings and reset them twice and done 
other things too. I might have to call frontier I guess. Thank you for your 
help!  
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> ?Eva,
> I would check your WiFi network first if you have anything else using WiFi.
> It may be as simple as unplugging the router, waiting about 30 seconds, 
> plugging it back in.
> Otherwise, Jen's suggestion to reset network settings may be necessary.
> 
> Also, your entire message was in the subject line.
> You may want to make sure you are in the message body after you've written 
> your subject.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> ?? Live long and prosper
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use 
> my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot 
> download anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or 
> anything like that. I can send message...
> 
> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
> to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
> have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
> 
> Jenn' 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
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>> ?
>> 
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RE: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[Richard Turner]

Alex,
There was no content in your message.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my 
Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download 
anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or anything like 
that. I can send message...



Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:50, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> oops, I didn’t realize that my message was in the subject line.   I did check 
> the network and the other things that use my Wi-Fi are running fine. So I 
> don’t quite understand what’s going on. It’s like only the phone is having 
> problems. And I have like I said check the network settings and reset them 
> twice and done other things too. I might have to call frontier I guess. Thank 
> you for your help!  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Eva,
>> I would check your WiFi network first if you have anything else using WiFi.
>> It may be as simple as unplugging the router, waiting about 30 seconds, 
>> plugging it back in.
>> Otherwise, Jen's suggestion to reset network settings may be necessary.
>> 
>> Also, your entire message was in the subject line.
>> You may want to make sure you are in the message body after you've written 
>> your subject.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  Live long and prosper
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use 
>> my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot 
>> download anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or 
>> anything like that. I can send message...
>> 
>> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
>> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now 
>> go to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you 
>> will have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
>> 
>> Jenn' 
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
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Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[Alex Stone]

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Dec 2019, at 15:50, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> oops, I didn’t realize that my message was in the subject line.   I did check 
> the network and the other things that use my Wi-Fi are running fine. So I 
> don’t quite understand what’s going on. It’s like only the phone is having 
> problems. And I have like I said check the network settings and reset them 
> twice and done other things too. I might have to call frontier I guess. Thank 
> you for your help!  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Eva,
>> I would check your WiFi network first if you have anything else using WiFi.
>> It may be as simple as unplugging the router, waiting about 30 seconds, 
>> plugging it back in.
>> Otherwise, Jen's suggestion to reset network settings may be necessary.
>> 
>> Also, your entire message was in the subject line.
>> You may want to make sure you are in the message body after you've written 
>> your subject.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  Live long and prosper
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use 
>> my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot 
>> download anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or 
>> anything like that. I can send message...
>> 
>> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
>> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now 
>> go to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you 
>> will have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
>> 
>> Jenn' 
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:04 AM, 'EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
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Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

['EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone]

oops, I didn’t realize that my message was in the subject line.   I did check 
the network and the other things that use my Wi-Fi are running fine. So I don’t 
quite understand what’s going on. It’s like only the phone is having problems. 
And I have like I said check the network settings and reset them twice and done 
other things too. I might have to call frontier I guess. Thank you for your 
help!  
 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Eva,
> I would check your WiFi network first if you have anything else using WiFi.
> It may be as simple as unplugging the router, waiting about 30 seconds, 
> plugging it back in.
> Otherwise, Jen's suggestion to reset network settings may be necessary.
> 
> Also, your entire message was in the subject line.
> You may want to make sure you are in the message body after you've written 
> your subject.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
>  Live long and prosper
> 
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> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use 
> my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot 
> download anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or 
> anything like that. I can send message...
> 
> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
> to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
> have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
> 
> Jenn' 
> 
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Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

['EVA PIMENTEL' via VIPhone]

Hi Jen. Yes I forgot to mention that I did try resetting the network settings 
and nothing happened. So I’m kind of at a loss. No my computer does not work 
either so it’s got to be something with the router I would think! Thank you for 
your help


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
> Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
> to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
> have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.
> 
> Jenn' 
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RE: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[Richard Turner]

Eva,
I would check your WiFi network first if you have anything else using WiFi.
It may be as simple as unplugging the router, waiting about 30 seconds, 
plugging it back in.
Otherwise, Jen's suggestion to reset network settings may be necessary.

Also, your entire message was in the subject line.
You may want to make sure you are in the message body after you've written your 
subject.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
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Facer
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my 
Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download 
anything whether it be email or Books from the Bard website or anything like 
that. I can send message...

The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.

Jenn' 

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RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

[kellmaster1]

I have seen  People on Facebook complaining about this for days now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251

It’s happening with me regularly  it’s possible that voiceover users who use 
Samantha as their main tts voice are in countering this problem. There  doesn’t 
seem to be a general outcry so probably the problem is not that widespread 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if it's country/server specific.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> I've ever been kicked out all time, also the last minutes now (grin) 
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> It must be different because when I first updated to version 251 or whichever 
> it was I also experienced this, but in the last few days this has gone 
> completely away for me. It almost seems like it was a server issue. I can now 
> open Facebook, be on the Newsfeed tab and swipe through the items forward and 
> backward and do whatever I want, go to the Notifications tab or Market Place 
> and back to News Feed and I'm never kicked out any more.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 2:23 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Re: don't update to the latest facebook ios app v251
> 
> It is true on my end. It seems the bug is different on different devices.
> 
> 
> I have not had any issues in the most recent section of the tab.
> 
> Don’t go making assumptions. I was gibing a fix that works for my device.
> 
> Maybe your statement is false.
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks hi Ed
>> 
>> I am sorry to report to the group that what Ed is experiencing is not 
>> true.
>> 
>> I have tried exactly what he told us and yeah after one minute of a 
>> bunch of scrollings I flew back to the home screen. So the problem is 
>> everywhere in the newspaper.
>> 
>> Please I very strongly recommend all facebook users to complain and 
>> report about this tramendous bug.
>> Regards
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Ed Worrell
>> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 5:36 PM
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
>> update
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I too am seeing this issue. I have found if you go to the Facebook 
>> menu tab in the bottom right hand corner and read your newsfeed in 
>> the “Most Recent” view the app no longer crashes, but if you try and 
>> go back to the newsfeed tab in the bottom left corner the app 
>> promptly crashes back to the home screen.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2019, at 3:27 PM, 'doug oliver' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve seen this issue as of today.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 20, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
 
 
 O Yeah some people here sometimes spread humor and there’s nothing 
 wrong with sometimes a bit humor like Sieghard does!
 
 From: Feliciano Godoy
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2019 5:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
 update
 
 Sieghard ,
 Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Your response comes off 
 as if you do not make mistakes. I was not expecting a response by 
 the way, simply providing some feedback.
 
 Feliciano
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> On Dec 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hmm, now Davy becomes Debbie, maybe that why there has been no 
> reply! 藍
> I haven’t seen this one, either.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 12:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I am not panicking but take care with the latest fb 
> update
> 
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Re: Problem with Wi-Fi and my iPhone 7 I have an iPhone 7 and I use my Wi-Fi for most of the time around the house. All of a sudden, I cannot download anything whether it be email or Books from the Ba

[Jennie Facer]

The only thing I can think of doing is reset network settings on your phone. 
Does your computer work? Go to settings then to general then to reset. Now go 
to reset network settings. This will not erase all of your data but you will 
have to enter your wifi password again. Hope this helps.helps.

Jenn' 

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IMDB TV

[Tom Rash]

Is anyone using IMDB TV?  I'm unable to watch any of the movies or TV shows
if I try to air play it on my TV.  Is that something that IMDB doesn't
allow, or do you think it is just a technical glitch?  Thanks

 

a IMDB thing OR DO YOUTHINK IT IS AN iPHone thing?  

thanks. 

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