RE: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[bentleyj1952]

No, I already had that set  to speaker instead of auto.  But, what a good try.

The main reason that I wanted to get away from the sensor was because it wasn't 
working right.  A reboot of the phone fixed that.  Or, at least, some thing 
fixed it.  I would still like to be able to lock the phone in to speaker mode 
but since the sensor is now stable, I could live with it if I needed to.  For 
now, I am guessing that this might be a bug in IOS 13.

Richard, I appreciate all of your time in digging around for different 
suggestions.

Cheers,

James B  

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James, perhaps you are looking for Call Audio routing?
Settings, Accessibility, Touch, Call Audio Routing.Call audio routing 
determines where audio will be heard during a phone call or FaceTime audio.
It defaults to automatic.
Maybe setting it to speaker will do what you want if that is to always have it 
on speaker.


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Re: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[Richard Turner]

James, perhaps you are looking for Call Audio routing?
Settings, Accessibility, Touch, Call Audio Routing.Call audio routing 
determines where audio will be heard during a phone call or FaceTime audio.
It defaults to automatic.
Maybe setting it to speaker will do what you want if that is to always have it 
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Tipping and the Uber Eats App

[Andy Baracco]

I can't figure how to choose an amount to tip in the uber Eats app.
Voiceover says that there is an edit box, but tapping on it does nothing, and 
if you just hit the submit button it defaults to the maximum amount.  I want to 
tip, but not at 25% as there is often a delivery fee and a service fee on top 
of that.  If they really want you to tip, they should reduce or eliminate some 
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Re: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[James Bentley]

locking the screen does work.
But, you lose the use of the number pad.
Regards,
James beb

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello Richard,
> I thought that this setting would do it, but it does not. When one is
> on speaker phone and puts the phone to the ear or touches the hand to
> the top of the phone,  the  ear piece carries the sound and it does
> not go back to speaker phone unless the user hides keypad and selects
> speaker.
> In short, I do not believe that there is a means by which to carry out
> what the user is trying to perform. I think that the only means of
> alleviating this issue is to lock/turn screen off  while the call is
> on speaker phone.
> 
> 
>> On 5/25/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Check under Settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio:
>> 
>> The setting defaults to on and the phrase after it explains its function.
>> Auto-select Speaker in Call on
>> 
>> During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding
>> your iPhone to your ear.
>> So, toggle it off and that should give you what you want.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening,
>> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>> 
>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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>> On May 25, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "bentleyj1...@gmail.com"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m hoping that it is possible to turn off the proximity sensor on the SE
>> 2020.
>> 
>> I made a couple changes that I thought should do it but my hand and face are
>> still turning off the speaker phone.
>> 
>> James B
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RE: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[bentleyj1952]

That is exactly what I thought too.  Automatic is toggled off and the sensor is 
still working.

 

James B  

 

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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 8:05 PM
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Hi, 

Check under Settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio:

 

The setting defaults to on and the phrase after it explains its function.

Auto-select Speaker in Call on

 

During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding your 
iPhone to your ear.

So, toggle it off and that should give you what you want.

 

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com  

 





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 " mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I’m hoping that it is possible to turn off the proximity sensor on the SE 2020.

 

I made a couple changes that I thought should do it but my hand and face are 
still turning off the speaker phone.

 

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Re: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[Shai]

Hello Richard,
I thought that this setting would do it, but it does not. When one is
on speaker phone and puts the phone to the ear or touches the hand to
the top of the phone,  the  ear piece carries the sound and it does
not go back to speaker phone unless the user hides keypad and selects
speaker.
In short, I do not believe that there is a means by which to carry out
what the user is trying to perform. I think that the only means of
alleviating this issue is to lock/turn screen off  while the call is
on speaker phone.


On 5/25/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
> Check under Settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio:
>
> The setting defaults to on and the phrase after it explains its function.
> Auto-select Speaker in Call on
>
> During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding
> your iPhone to your ear.
> So, toggle it off and that should give you what you want.
>
>
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening,
> it just stops you from enjoying the good."
>
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
>
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "bentleyj1...@gmail.com"
>  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi,
>
> I’m hoping that it is possible to turn off the proximity sensor on the SE
> 2020.
>
> I made a couple changes that I thought should do it but my hand and face are
> still turning off the speaker phone.
>
> James B
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Re: The proximity sensor on the new SE

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Check under Settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio:

The setting defaults to on and the phrase after it explains its function.
Auto-select Speaker in Call on

During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding your 
iPhone to your ear.
So, toggle it off and that should give you what you want.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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On May 25, 2020, at 5:39 PM, "bentleyj1...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


Hi,

I’m hoping that it is possible to turn off the proximity sensor on the SE 2020.

I made a couple changes that I thought should do it but my hand and face are 
still turning off the speaker phone.

James B

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The proximity sensor on the new SE

[bentleyj1952]

Hi,

 

I'm hoping that it is possible to turn off the proximity sensor on the SE
2020.

 

I made a couple changes that I thought should do it but my hand and face are
still turning off the speaker phone.

 

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Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[James Bentley]

thanks,It sounds like that's exactly what I need to get me going on this.
Regards,
James be lan

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  they do play well together.
> There is a user list for Voice Dream Products as well.
> I'll send along the info once I find it again.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
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> 
> 
>>> On May 25, 2020, at 2:18 PM, "bentleyj1...@gmail.com" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> So many members have offered suggestions that it is difficult to thank 
>> everyone individually.
>>  
>> I am strongly considering just paying the one time cost for Voice Dream 
>> Reader, Voice Dream Writer, and Voice Dream Scanner.  I am guessing that 
>> they all play well together.
>>  
>> With Voice Dream Writer, is it possible to browse through the names of your 
>> files to open them?
>>  
>> Can I open a file and edit it, over and over again and save my changes?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> James B
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al
>>  
>> James and others,
>> I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
>> the old thread.
>>  
>> To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
>> The one that is built-in is Notes.
>> It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with 
>> all the new features.
>>  
>> My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it 
>> is on sale through May.
>> It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document 
>> reading app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, 
>> they are all available in a bundle.
>>  
>> Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
>> for just simple notes.
>> It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
>> experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
>> It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
>> around, delete whole paragraphs.
>> You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct 
>> word, you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the 
>> fastest animal in Africa and get Cheetah.
>>  
>> The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a 
>> bit of a learning curve, but well worth it.
>> It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy 
>> search box to find a note quickly.
>>  
>> Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.
>>  
>> Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
>> believe it allows for folders.
>>  
>> I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still 
>> doesn’t report accurately where you are in a file.
>>  
>> HTH,
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
>> using Braille to input the text.
>>  
>> I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
>> notes on an iPhone.
>>  
>> I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone 
>> one third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.
>>  
>> , This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
>> already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.
>>  
>> Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> James B   
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
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RE: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

Traci,
You may want to check out the Bluetooth keyboard commands on my web site.
I have the Logitech K480 and command up or down arrows do not bring up any kind 
of a hotkey list.
That may be some special setup with your keyboard.
You may want to see if there is any documentation with that keyboard.
www.turner42.com




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

Wow, thanks for that. I also just figured out that command up or down arrow 
seems to bring up keyboard shortcuts for the app you’re in. It has done it for 
Mail, Home screen, and Safari.

Oh, it’s fun after so many years, I’m still abled to get tickled by tech.

Thanks 
Traci


Sent from my iPad

> On May 25, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is easier than that.
> Make sure quick nav is on and just press control+up arrow and you will be at 
> the top left app.
> Control+down arrow will put you on the last item in your dock.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
> 
> On my iPad mini home screen. Moving by containers. Say I’m in the dock, and I 
> want to move up to the first app of the main screen. As far as I understand 
> it, VO+shift+home should do this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It would help to know in which apps you are running into this.
>> Generally speaking if you are talking about going to the beginning or end of 
>> a document, those are VO key commands, not just a single key.
>> Beginning of a document is CommandKey+up arrow.
>> End of the document is CommandKey+down arrow.
>> Beginning of a line is CommandKey+left arrow.
>> End of a line is CommandKey+right arrow.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the 
>> home, end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know 
>> I’m hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says 
>> the correct key names. 
>> 
>> Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get 
>> what you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it 
>> doesn’t always respond the way I want it to.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section Index?

[Richard Turner]

That setting is under settings, contacts.
Do you want it to alphabetize by last name, but show first then last in the 
list?
That used to be the default, but check in your settings to be sure.


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On May 25, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:

How do you change the contacts in the section index so your first name will 
show first and your last name last? I used to know how to change it but forgot. 
Please remind me.

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How Do You Change Your Contacts in the Way They Show in Section Index?

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How do you change the contacts in the section index so your first name will 
show first and your last name last? I used to know how to change it but forgot. 
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Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Richard Turner]

they do play well together.
There is a user list for Voice Dream Products as well.
I'll send along the info once I find it again.


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On May 25, 2020, at 2:18 PM, "bentleyj1...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


Hi all,

So many members have offered suggestions that it is difficult to thank everyone 
individually.

I am strongly considering just paying the one time cost for Voice Dream Reader, 
Voice Dream Writer, and Voice Dream Scanner.  I am guessing that they all play 
well together.

With Voice Dream Writer, is it possible to browse through the names of your 
files to open them?

Can I open a file and edit it, over and over again and save my changes?

Thanks,

James B

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

James and others,
I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
the old thread.

To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
The one that is built-in is Notes.
It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with all 
the new features.

My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it is 
on sale through May.
It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document reading 
app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, they are 
all available in a bundle.

Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
for just simple notes.
It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
around, delete whole paragraphs.
You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct word, 
you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the fastest 
animal in Africa and get Cheetah.

The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a bit 
of a learning curve, but well worth it.
It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy search 
box to find a note quickly.

Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.

Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
believe it allows for folders.

I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still doesn’t 
report accurately where you are in a file.

HTH,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Hi,

I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
using Braille to input the text.

I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
notes on an iPhone.

I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.

, This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.

Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?

Regards,

James B


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RE: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[bentleyj1952]

Hi all,

 

So many members have offered suggestions that it is difficult to thank everyone 
individually.

 

I am strongly considering just paying the one time cost for Voice Dream Reader, 
Voice Dream Writer, and Voice Dream Scanner.  I am guessing that they all play 
well together.

 

With Voice Dream Writer, is it possible to browse through the names of your 
files to open them?

 

Can I open a file and edit it, over and over again and save my changes?

 

Thanks,

 

James B

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

 

James and others,

I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
the old thread.

 

To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.

The one that is built-in is Notes.

It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with all 
the new features.

 

My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it is 
on sale through May.

It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document reading 
app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, they are 
all available in a bundle.

 

Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
for just simple notes.

It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.

It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
around, delete whole paragraphs.

You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct word, 
you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the fastest 
animal in Africa and get Cheetah.

 

The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a bit 
of a learning curve, but well worth it.

It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy search 
box to find a note quickly.

 

Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.

 

Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
believe it allows for folders.

 

I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still doesn’t 
report accurately where you are in a file.

 

HTH,

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com  
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

 

Hi,

 

I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
using Braille to input the text.

 

I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
notes on an iPhone.

 

I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.

 

, This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.

 

Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?

 

Regards,

 

James B   

 

 

Richard

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Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

Wow, thanks for that. I also just figured out that command up or down arrow 
seems to bring up keyboard shortcuts for the app you’re in. It has done it for 
Mail, Home screen, and Safari.

Oh, it’s fun after so many years, I’m still abled to get tickled by tech.

Thanks 
Traci


Sent from my iPad

> On May 25, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It is easier than that.
> Make sure quick nav is on and just press control+up arrow and you will be at 
> the top left app.
> Control+down arrow will put you on the last item in your dock.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
> 
> On my iPad mini home screen. Moving by containers. Say I’m in the dock, and I 
> want to move up to the first app of the main screen. As far as I understand 
> it, VO+shift+home should do this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It would help to know in which apps you are running into this.
>> Generally speaking if you are talking about going to the beginning or end of 
>> a document, those are VO key commands, not just a single key.
>> Beginning of a document is CommandKey+up arrow.
>> End of the document is CommandKey+down arrow.
>> Beginning of a line is CommandKey+left arrow.
>> End of a line is CommandKey+right arrow.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
>> Duncan
>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
>> 
>> Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the 
>> home, end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know 
>> I’m hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says 
>> the correct key names. 
>> 
>> Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get 
>> what you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it 
>> doesn’t always respond the way I want it to.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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RE: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

It is easier than that.
Make sure quick nav is on and just press control+up arrow and you will be at 
the top left app.
Control+down arrow will put you on the last item in your dock.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

On my iPad mini home screen. Moving by containers. Say I’m in the dock, and I 
want to move up to the first app of the main screen. As far as I understand it, 
VO+shift+home should do this.

Thanks,
Traci


> On May 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It would help to know in which apps you are running into this.
> Generally speaking if you are talking about going to the beginning or end of 
> a document, those are VO key commands, not just a single key.
> Beginning of a document is CommandKey+up arrow.
> End of the document is CommandKey+down arrow.
> Beginning of a line is CommandKey+left arrow.
> End of a line is CommandKey+right arrow.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
> 
> Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the 
> home, end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know 
> I’m hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says the 
> correct key names. 
> 
> Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get 
> what you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it 
> doesn’t always respond the way I want it to.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

On my iPad mini home screen. Moving by containers. Say I’m in the dock, and I 
want to move up to the first app of the main screen. As far as I understand it, 
VO+shift+home should do this.

Thanks,
Traci


> On May 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It would help to know in which apps you are running into this.
> Generally speaking if you are talking about going to the beginning or end of 
> a document, those are VO key commands, not just a single key.
> Beginning of a document is CommandKey+up arrow.
> End of the document is CommandKey+down arrow.
> Beginning of a line is CommandKey+left arrow.
> End of a line is CommandKey+right arrow.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard
> 
> Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the 
> home, end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know 
> I’m hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says the 
> correct key names. 
> 
> Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get 
> what you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it 
> doesn’t always respond the way I want it to.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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RE: Sounds and haptics

[bentleyj1952]

Hi Mike and all,

 

I am new to all of this but that isn’t stopping me from adding my two cents 
worth.

 

I suspect that haptics

are important for the death and useless for everyone else.

 

Of course, the haptic feedback for the home button and the ability for the 
phone to vibrate are very important.

 

Everyone stay safe,

 

James B  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

I've done all that, so I'm going for the latter, not going to mess with it any 
more.  LOL 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

Mike,

 

I'd suggest you go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, and Sounds and 
Haptics. Take your phone out of its case. You can turn off sounds on this 
screen and also turn off Haptics or change the haptic intensity. I feel pretty 
sure you can adjust these settings in some combination where you can get a 
sense of the differing haptic feedback. If not, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Mike 
B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> >
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:51:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics 

 

Hi Alan,

 

I have my haptic setting at 100%, but when I swipe around the only thing I feel 
is the reverberation of the speaker through the back of the phone and what I 
hear is the click sounds that the phone makes when swiping.  I reset it to, 0 , 
swiped around then set the haptic setting to, 100% , and didn't notice any 
difference.  Other than the Sound & Haptics in Settings and in Voiceover / 
Audio, is there somewhere else to change settings?  Hell, maybe everything is 
okay and I'm just not getting my head wrapped around this whole haptic thing!  
LOL  LOL  

 

BTW;  after turning my automatic updates to on in the iTunes & App Store, I'm 
now getting notified of updates and how many when touching the App Store icon 
on the Home screen.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:25 PM

Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne

 

Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > a écrit :

 

The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the 

Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Michael Feir]

I completely agree that Ulysses is overkill if you don't intend to use if
for writing documents as well as notes. Drafts is splendid for notes.
Another one you might want to look at is Allegory. The developer has taken
steps to make it accessible. There are loads of choices for notes apps.
Another one known to be accessible is called Noted. It lets you record
audio lectures and timestamp notes. Quite useful for students. Check the
app directory on Applevis for even more on various note apps.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 2:40 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

> Drafts does sound like a pretty powerful app.
>
> But, unless you really need all that extra stuff, you may not want to pay
> $20 per year.
>
> The free basic version looks pretty good.
>
> Worht checking out for sure.
>
> Since I already own Voice Dream Writer, I’m happy with that, but someone
> just getting into this should check out all the options they can.
>
> Thanks for pointing out about drafts.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kolby Garrison
> *Sent:* Monday, May 25, 2020 11:14 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al
>
>
>
> Hello, Everyone,
>
> I, too, use Drafts for note taking and cannot recommend the app highly
> enough. I pay for the annual subscription, which enables you to export to
> Dropbox, OneDrive, Et Cetera.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kolby
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
>
> Just to add to this thread re note taking on the iPhone. I am currently a
> subscriber to Ulysees but will most likely droop the subscription. It just
> isn’t that much better than other note taking apps in my opinion to justify
> the subscription.
>
>
>
> There is another app called Drafts that I like a lot and find myself using
> for quick notes and draft documents. The thing I like most is that it drops
> you right in a blank document as soon as you open the app. It works equally
> well with braille screen input and a bluetooth keyboard. And it doesn’t
> require a subscription.
>
>
>
> Kim
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that
> we go on.—Annie Proulx
>
>
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> James and others,
>
> I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up
> in the old thread.
>
>
>
> To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
>
> The one that is built-in is Notes.
>
> It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with
> all the new features.
>
>
>
> My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe
> it is on sale through May.
>
> It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document
> reading app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner,
> they are all available in a bundle.
>
>
>
> Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be
> used for just simple notes.
>
> It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has
> an experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
>
> It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences
> around, delete whole paragraphs.
>
> You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct
> word, you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the
> fastest animal in Africa and get Cheetah.
>
>
>
> The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a
> bit of a learning curve, but well worth it.
>
> It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy
> search box to find a note quickly.
>
>
>
> Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.
>
>
>
> Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I
> believe it allows for folders.
>
>
>
> I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still
> doesn’t report accurately where you are in a file.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a
> note-taker using Braille to input the text.
>
>
>
> I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for
> taking notes on an iPhone.
>
>
>
> I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone
> one third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.
>
>
>
> , This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app
> already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.
>
>
>
> Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> 

Re: Sounds and haptics

[Mike B.]

I've done all that, so I'm going for the latter, not going to mess with it 
any more.  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics


Mike,


I'd suggest you go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, and Sounds 
and Haptics. Take your phone out of its case. You can turn off sounds on 
this screen and also turn off Haptics or change the haptic intensity. I feel 
pretty sure you can adjust these settings in some combination where you can 
get a sense of the differing haptic feedback. If not, I wouldn't worry about 
it.


Alan Lemly


Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mike 
B. 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:51:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

Hi Alan,

I have my haptic setting at 100%, but when I swipe around the only thing I 
feel is the reverberation of the speaker through the back of the phone and 
what I hear is the click sounds that the phone makes when swiping.  I reset 
it to, 0 , swiped around then set the haptic setting to, 100% , and didn't 
notice any difference.  Other than the Sound & Haptics in Settings and in 
Voiceover / Audio, is there somewhere else to change settings?  Hell, maybe 
everything is okay and I'm just not getting my head wrapped around this 
whole haptic thing!  LOL  LOL

BTW;  after turning my automatic updates to on in the iTunes & App Store, 
I'm now getting notified of updates and how many when touching the App Store 
icon on the Home screen.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics


Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.



Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics



I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.



I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.



I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to 
different iPhone models.



Stay safe,



James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne



  Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :

  

  The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 

  From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

  Subject: Sounds and haptics



  Hi all,

  Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

  I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

  What am I missing?

  Cheers,

  James B

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RE: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Richard Turner]

It would help to know in which apps you are running into this.
Generally speaking if you are talking about going to the beginning or end of a 
document, those are VO key commands, not just a single key.
Beginning of a document is CommandKey+up arrow.
End of the document is CommandKey+down arrow.
Beginning of a line is CommandKey+left arrow.
End of a line is CommandKey+right arrow.

HTH,


Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the home, 
end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know I’m 
hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says the 
correct key names. 

Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get what 
you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it doesn’t 
always respond the way I want it to.

Thanks,
Traci

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RE: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Richard Turner]

Drafts does sound like a pretty powerful app.
But, unless you really need all that extra stuff, you may not want to pay $20 
per year.
The free basic version looks pretty good.
Worht checking out for sure.
Since I already own Voice Dream Writer, I’m happy with that, but someone just 
getting into this should check out all the options they can.
Thanks for pointing out about drafts.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kolby 
Garrison
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

Hello, Everyone,
I, too, use Drafts for note taking and cannot recommend the app highly enough. 
I pay for the annual subscription, which enables you to export to Dropbox, 
OneDrive, Et Cetera.
Thank you,
Kolby


On May 25, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Kimberly 
mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Just to add to this thread re note taking on the iPhone. I am currently a 
subscriber to Ulysees but will most likely droop the subscription. It just 
isn’t that much better than other note taking apps in my opinion to justify the 
subscription.

There is another app called Drafts that I like a lot and find myself using for 
quick notes and draft documents. The thing I like most is that it drops you 
right in a blank document as soon as you open the app. It works equally well 
with braille screen input and a bluetooth keyboard. And it doesn’t require a 
subscription.

Kim
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On May 25, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

James and others,
I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
the old thread.

To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
The one that is built-in is Notes.
It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with all 
the new features.

My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it is 
on sale through May.
It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document reading 
app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, they are 
all available in a bundle.

Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
for just simple notes.
It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
around, delete whole paragraphs.
You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct word, 
you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the fastest 
animal in Africa and get Cheetah.

The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a bit 
of a learning curve, but well worth it.
It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy search 
box to find a note quickly.

Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.

Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
believe it allows for folders.

I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still doesn’t 
report accurately where you are in a file.

HTH,

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com



Hi,

I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
using Braille to input the text.

I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
notes on an iPhone.

I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.

, This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.

Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?

Regards,

James B


Richard
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Re: Sounds and haptics

[Alan Lemly]

Mike,

I'd suggest you go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Audio, and Sounds and 
Haptics. Take your phone out of its case. You can turn off sounds on this 
screen and also turn off Haptics or change the haptic intensity. I feel pretty 
sure you can adjust these settings in some combination where you can get a 
sense of the differing haptic feedback. If not, I wouldn't worry about it.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mike B. 

Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:51:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

Hi Alan,

I have my haptic setting at 100%, but when I swipe around the only thing I feel 
is the reverberation of the speaker through the back of the phone and what I 
hear is the click sounds that the phone makes when swiping.  I reset it to, 0 , 
swiped around then set the haptic setting to, 100% , and didn't notice any 
difference.  Other than the Sound & Haptics in Settings and in Voiceover / 
Audio, is there somewhere else to change settings?  Hell, maybe everything is 
okay and I'm just not getting my head wrapped around this whole haptic thing!  
LOL  LOL

BTW;  after turning my automatic updates to on in the iTunes & App Store, I'm 
now getting notified of updates and how many when touching the App Store icon 
on the Home screen.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics


Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.



Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics



I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.



I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.



I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.



Stay safe,



James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.

- Original Message -

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne



Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B. 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> a écrit :



The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.

- Original Message -

From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

Subject: Sounds and haptics



Hi all,

Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

What am I missing?

Cheers,

James B

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Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Kolby Garrison]

Hello, Everyone,
I, too, use Drafts for note taking and cannot recommend the app highly enough. 
I pay for the annual subscription, which enables you to export to Dropbox, 
OneDrive, Et Cetera.
Thank you,
Kolby

> On May 25, 2020, at 2:08 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> Just to add to this thread re note taking on the iPhone. I am currently a 
> subscriber to Ulysees but will most likely droop the subscription. It just 
> isn’t that much better than other note taking apps in my opinion to justify 
> the subscription.
> 
> There is another app called Drafts that I like a lot and find myself using 
> for quick notes and draft documents. The thing I like most is that it drops 
> you right in a blank document as soon as you open the app. It works equally 
> well with braille screen input and a bluetooth keyboard. And it doesn’t 
> require a subscription.
> 
> Kim
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
>>> On May 25, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> James and others,
>> I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
>> the old thread.
>>  
>> To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
>> The one that is built-in is Notes.
>> It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with 
>> all the new features.
>>  
>> My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it 
>> is on sale through May.
>> It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document 
>> reading app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, 
>> they are all available in a bundle.
>>  
>> Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
>> for just simple notes.
>> It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
>> experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
>> It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
>> around, delete whole paragraphs.
>> You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct 
>> word, you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the 
>> fastest animal in Africa and get Cheetah.
>>  
>> The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a 
>> bit of a learning curve, but well worth it.
>> It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy 
>> search box to find a note quickly.
>>  
>> Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.
>>  
>> Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
>> believe it allows for folders.
>>  
>> I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still 
>> doesn’t report accurately where you are in a file.
>>  
>> HTH,
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
>> using Braille to input the text.
>>  
>> I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
>> notes on an iPhone.
>>  
>> I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone 
>> one third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.
>>  
>> , This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
>> already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.
>>  
>> Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> James B   
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
>>  
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Re: Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Kimberly]

Just to add to this thread re note taking on the iPhone. I am currently a 
subscriber to Ulysees but will most likely droop the subscription. It just 
isn’t that much better than other note taking apps in my opinion to justify the 
subscription.

There is another app called Drafts that I like a lot and find myself using for 
quick notes and draft documents. The thing I like most is that it drops you 
right in a blank document as soon as you open the app. It works equally well 
with braille screen input and a bluetooth keyboard. And it doesn’t require a 
subscription.

Kim

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

> On May 25, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> James and others,
> I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn’t end up in 
> the old thread.
>  
> To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
> The one that is built-in is Notes.
> It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with 
> all the new features.
>  
> My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it 
> is on sale through May.
> It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document reading 
> app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, they are 
> all available in a bundle.
>  
> Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
> for just simple notes.
> It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
> experimental Word export that hasn’t worked for me of late.
> It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
> around, delete whole paragraphs.
> You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct word, 
> you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the fastest 
> animal in Africa and get Cheetah.
>  
> The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a 
> bit of a learning curve, but well worth it.
> It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy search 
> box to find a note quickly.
>  
> Another popular one is Ulises.  I’ve never used it, it seems pricy to me.
>  
> Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I’ve not used it in years.  I 
> believe it allows for folders.
>  
> I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still 
> doesn’t report accurately where you are in a file.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
> using Braille to input the text.
>  
> I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
> notes on an iPhone.
>  
> I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
> third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.
>  
> , This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
> already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.
>  
> Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> James B   
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
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Home and end keys on bluetooth keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, I have a cheep bluetooth keyboard folio here and I cannot get the home, 
end, page up and down keys to respond with VoiceOver commands. I know I’m 
hitting the correct buttons, because when I activate VO help, it says the 
correct key names. 

Is this a limitation of bluetooth keyboards or possibly a case of you get what 
you pay for. Lol! It’s a great little Nulaxy keyboard, aside from it doesn’t 
always respond the way I want it to.

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Sounds and haptics

[Mike B.]

Hi Alan,

I have my haptic setting at 100%, but when I swipe around the only thing I 
feel is the reverberation of the speaker through the back of the phone and 
what I hear is the click sounds that the phone makes when swiping.  I reset 
it to, 0 , swiped around then set the haptic setting to, 100% , and didn't 
notice any difference.  Other than the Sound & Haptics in Settings and in 
Voiceover / Audio, is there somewhere else to change settings?  Hell, maybe 
everything is okay and I'm just not getting my head wrapped around this 
whole haptic thing!  LOL  LOL

BTW;  after turning my automatic updates to on in the iTunes & App Store, 
I'm now getting notified of updates and how many when touching the App Store 
icon on the Home screen.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics


Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.



Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics



I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.



I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.



I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to 
different iPhone models.



Stay safe,



James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics



It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne



  Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :

  

  The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
   *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet.

  - Original Message - 

  From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

  Subject: Sounds and haptics



  Hi all,

  Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

  I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

  What am I missing?

  Cheers,

  James B

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RE: Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

[Richard Turner]

Outlook is going to do that no matter what you do as far as I can tell.
At least the native mail app doesn’t announce the number of suggested contacts 
as you enter an address.  You have to go look for them in the native mail app.
One of the reasons I stick with it, rather than the Outlook app.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

I guess it is my inability to write clearly, but I DON’T WANT Outlook to keep 
suggesting contacts! I want to tap the compose button and simply type in the 
email address in the “to” field!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

Like Matthew, my Outlook for iOS is displaying my available contacts when I 
execute the Compose button in the upper right corner of the screen to begin a 
new message and start typing characters in the To field. You should read the 
below which I copied from the Outlook for iOS FAQs section to make sure your 
contacts are available to the app.

How do I save my Outlook contacts to my iOS contacts app?
To save Outlook contacts to your native address book:

First go to Device Settings > Contacts and confirm that the “Default Account” 
is set to “iCloud”. If you do not see this setting that is OK, the setting 
should only be available if you have more than one account added to your 
device. If there is no account connected to the device, then your Outlook 
contacts will be saved locally but will not be synced to other devices.

Second, open Outlook for iOS and in the left nav view open the Settings gear > 
Select your account > Toggle ON the “Save Contacts” toggle.

Saved contacts will be added under the contacts in your iCloud account. These 
contacts will sync to all devices which are signed in with the same iCloud 
account. Note: You can only export contacts from one device at a time.

If a user has contact-export turned on both their iPad and iPhone one will need 
to be disabled so that we are able to manage conflicts. Duplicates can take up 
24 hours to be reconciliated.

Alan Lemly

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook Frustration

Hi,

Just tested this on my iphone 8+ and I am not having this problem.  I hear the 
number of contacts found as I type, but not a repeat message you speak of.  I 
am running ios 13.5 with the latest versi9on of outlook as of a few days ago.

Matthew



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Outlook Frustration

Hi,
I am trying to compose a message in the Outlook for iOS App. As I attempt to 
fill in the “to” field, I hear over and over and over again, “one suggested 
contact” I can not seem to type in the sender’s email address without hearing 
this message over and over again! I can’t even tell if I have typed the 
sender’s address correctly. WTF!
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RE: Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

[richring]

I guess it is my inability to write clearly, but I DON’T WANT Outlook to keep 
suggesting contacts! I want to tap the compose button and simply type in the 
email address in the “to” field!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

 

Like Matthew, my Outlook for iOS is displaying my available contacts when I 
execute the Compose button in the upper right corner of the screen to begin a 
new message and start typing characters in the To field. You should read the 
below which I copied from the Outlook for iOS FAQs section to make sure your 
contacts are available to the app.

 

How do I save my Outlook contacts to my iOS contacts app?

To save Outlook contacts to your native address book:

 

First go to Device Settings > Contacts and confirm that the “Default Account” 
is set to “iCloud”. If you do not see this setting that is OK, the setting 
should only be available if you have more than one account added to your 
device. If there is no account connected to the device, then your Outlook 
contacts will be saved locally but will not be synced to other devices.

 

Second, open Outlook for iOS and in the left nav view open the Settings gear > 
Select your account > Toggle ON the “Save Contacts” toggle.

 

Saved contacts will be added under the contacts in your iCloud account. These 
contacts will sync to all devices which are signed in with the same iCloud 
account. Note: You can only export contacts from one device at a time.

 

If a user has contact-export turned on both their iPad and iPhone one will need 
to be disabled so that we are able to manage conflicts. Duplicates can take up 
24 hours to be reconciliated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Outlook Frustration

 

Hi,

 

Just tested this on my iphone 8+ and I am not having this problem.  I hear the 
number of contacts found as I type, but not a repeat message you speak of.  I 
am running ios 13.5 with the latest versi9on of outlook as of a few days ago.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

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richr...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Outlook Frustration

 

Hi,

I am trying to compose a message in the Outlook for iOS App. As I attempt to 
fill in the “to” field, I hear over and over and over again, “one suggested 
contact” I can not seem to type in the sender’s email address without hearing 
this message over and over again! I can’t even tell if I have typed the 
sender’s address correctly. WTF!

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Managing Contacts in Outlook for iOS was RE: Outlook Frustration

[Alan Lemly]

Like Matthew, my Outlook for iOS is displaying my available contacts when I 
execute the Compose button in the upper right corner of the screen to begin a 
new message and start typing characters in the To field. You should read the 
below which I copied from the Outlook for iOS FAQs section to make sure your 
contacts are available to the app.

 

How do I save my Outlook contacts to my iOS contacts app?

To save Outlook contacts to your native address book:

 

First go to Device Settings > Contacts and confirm that the “Default Account” 
is set to “iCloud”. If you do not see this setting that is OK, the setting 
should only be available if you have more than one account added to your 
device. If there is no account connected to the device, then your Outlook 
contacts will be saved locally but will not be synced to other devices.

 

Second, open Outlook for iOS and in the left nav view open the Settings gear > 
Select your account > Toggle ON the “Save Contacts” toggle.

 

Saved contacts will be added under the contacts in your iCloud account. These 
contacts will sync to all devices which are signed in with the same iCloud 
account. Note: You can only export contacts from one device at a time.

 

If a user has contact-export turned on both their iPad and iPhone one will need 
to be disabled so that we are able to manage conflicts. Duplicates can take up 
24 hours to be reconciliated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Outlook Frustration

 

Hi,

 

Just tested this on my iphone 8+ and I am not having this problem.  I hear the 
number of contacts found as I type, but not a repeat message you speak of.  I 
am running ios 13.5 with the latest versi9on of outlook as of a few days ago.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

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richr...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Outlook Frustration

 

Hi,

I am trying to compose a message in the Outlook for iOS App. As I attempt to 
fill in the “to” field, I hear over and over and over again, “one suggested 
contact” I can not seem to type in the sender’s email address without hearing 
this message over and over again! I can’t even tell if I have typed the 
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Re: Having Trouble Getting Text Tone to Work

[regina alvarado]

I also sometimes don't get the tone. I have determined for me this happens most 
often if I am doing something else in another app or on internet. Wish it could 
be changed, but perhaps this was done on purpose by Apple to not bother someone 
on another task? I don't really think this is the reason, but it is the only 
one that makes sense to me. Maybe someone else knows?

Reggie Alvarado 

On May 25, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

I had that problem, finally switched to something, maybe in Classic, tweet, 
maybe. Anyway, it sounds kind of like a wolf whistle - pretty cool, and I seem 
to be hearing most of mine. It is reassuring to know someone else has the same 
issue. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having Trouble Getting Text Tone to Work

I'm having trouble at times getting my text tone to work upon receiving text 
messages. I went to sounds and selected the one I wanted. Went to notifications 
and messages and made sure everything was selected that I wanted. I'm not sure 
exactly what to do now. In the past, it has worked but isn't now. My phone is 
not muted. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm using the latest version 
and I have a 6S plus phone.
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RE: Sounds and haptics

[Carolyn]

It good be that my pretty solid case makes mine not so harsh at 100%. 

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Dave
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 4:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

Hi, i have the SE 2020. and my sounds and haptics work fine.
 
In-fact, i had to lower the intensity of my haptic feed-back, as it was way to 
harsh.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics
 

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne





Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > a écrit :

 

The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic 
vibration / sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel 
through the Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / 
vibration when using the Home button and don't know where else it does its 
thing.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

Subject: Sounds and haptics

 

Hi all,

Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see 
the difference.

What am I missing?

Cheers,

James B  

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RE: Sounds and haptics

[Carolyn]

Mine is at 100%, and it does feel weird sometimes in my pocket, when the phone 
rings, but I like it at that setting. 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
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Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

Oh man, what a major difference this made when I changed from 100% to 50%.

 

Now, I don’t feel all of that thumping through the case of the phone. That’s 
not so cool when my phone is on my chest while I’m in bed. And, I am still 
getting the same good haptic feedback through the home button which I like.

 

This is great.

 

I love this phone.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne

 

Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B. mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > a écrit :

 

The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic 
vibration / sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel 
through the Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / 
vibration when using the Home button and don't know where else it does its 
thing.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I 
pee it cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

Subject: Sounds and haptics

 

Hi all,

Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see 
the difference.

What am I missing?

Cheers,

James B  

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RE: Having Trouble Getting Text Tone to Work

[Carolyn]

I had that problem, finally switched to something, maybe in Classic, tweet, 
maybe. Anyway, it sounds kind of like a wolf whistle - pretty cool, and I seem 
to be hearing most of mine. It is reassuring to know someone else has the same 
issue. 

-Original Message-
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Shirley Baker
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having Trouble Getting Text Tone to Work

I'm having trouble at times getting my text tone to work upon receiving text 
messages. I went to sounds and selected the one I wanted. Went to notifications 
and messages and made sure everything was selected that I wanted. I'm not sure 
exactly what to do now. In the past, it has worked but isn't now. My phone is 
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Sent from my iPhone

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RE: David Woodbridge's SE 2020 Audio Tutorial

[Carolyn]

I thought that too, Richard. 

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Richard Turner
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I'm sure the VO voice is Australian Karen. 
I suspect the Siri is the Australian Siri female.
The haptic touch he explains for the home button is in the general settings, 
but the other haptic feedback is under sounds and haptics.
HTH,


Richard

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just stops you from enjoying the good."



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On May 24, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Mike B.  wrote:



 
Hi All,
 
I really liked the voices David used for both Siri & Voiceover.  Both 
voices enunciated very well, and with my hearing range I could understand them 
very clearly.  Can anyone tell me what voices he's using?
 
Also, David mentioned a vibrate mode when he did certain tasks, like 
when he was assigning a new fingerprint or muting / unmuting via the side 
switch above the side volume buttons.  How do I turn on the vibrate mode he was 
using?  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Note taking on an iPhone, for James, et al

[Richard Turner]

James and others,
I started a completely new thread to make sure this message didn't end up in 
the old thread.

To answer James question, there are a lot of note taking apps.
The one that is built-in is Notes.
It is a good, basic, note taking app but has a pretty busy screen now with all 
the new features.

My personal favorite is Voice Dream Writer, normally $9.99 but I believe it is 
on sale through May.
It is made by the same person who makes my favorite book and document reading 
app, Voice Dream Reader, and the best OCR app, Voice Dream Scanner, they are 
all available in a bundle.

Writer is designed specifically for advanced note taking, though can be used 
for just simple notes.
It only edits txt, but it can export into RTF or HTML as well; and he has an 
experimental Word export that hasn't worked for me of late.
It has a great spell checker, you can easily move paragraphs or sentences 
around, delete whole paragraphs.
You can get definitions of words, or if you are not sure of the correct word, 
you can write a general meaning and get word  suggestions.  Like, the fastest 
animal in Africa and get Cheetah.

The manual is very good, though because it has complex abilities, it has a bit 
of a learning curve, but well worth it.
It does not allow for folders to group your notes , but it has an easy search 
box to find a note quickly.

Another popular one is Ulises.  I've never used it, it seems pricy to me.

Meteor Notes used to be a good one too, but I've not used it in years.  I 
believe it allows for folders.

I do not think Pages or Word are worth your while since VoiceOver still doesn't 
report accurately where you are in a file.

HTH,

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com


Hi,

I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
using Braille to input the text.

I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
notes on an iPhone.

I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.

, This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.

Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?

Regards,

James B


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RE: how to get voice over to say if the screen is locked?

[Jennie Facer]

As someone already stated, the only way to hear the words screen locked is to 
turn all sounds off in VoiceOver settings.

 

Jenn

 

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Lemly
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Subject: RE: how to get voice over to say if the screen is locked?

 

Dennis,

 

I don't know whether it's possible to get Voiceover to announce when your 
screen automatically locks but I suspect not. I have a procedural solution that 
I use. I don't like my iPhone to automatically lock since it seemed to do it at 
the most inconvenient times when I had it turned on. So, I went to Settings, 
Display and brightness, and set Auto-lock to never. Now, I simply press the 
power button on my SE 2020, hear a click, and know it is locked. I much prefer 
to control when the phone locks so hopefully you can find the setting that 
works for you too.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Subject: how to get voice over to say if the screen is locked?

 

Is this possible?  When the screen locks?

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Notes on the iPhone was RE: I'm not sure that all of my emails are getting through and. Thank you Anna.

[Jennie Facer]

Hi James,

 

I changed the subject line to reflect what you are asking. I ended up selling 
my Braille Sense. I have totally changed to the iPhone for my note taking 
needs. I use the native Notes app quite a bit. If you want something a little 
more robust, Voice Dream Writer is a very good app for that. You can also put 
Braille Screen Input on your rotor so you can type in Braille. You will find 
this in Settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor. Here, select Braille screen 
input. Now, when you are in an edit field, turn your rotor to Braille Screen 
Input and boom instant Braille. You will probably have to calibrate the dots so 
the phone can get used to your fingers. You do this by pressing your right 
three fingers on the screen, lifting them, then pressing the left three fingers 
on the screen and lifting them. It is a quick gesture. There are two ways in 
which to hold the phone so you can use Braille Screen Input. One is called away 
mode. In this setting, you put the phone on its side and hold it in both palms 
of your hands with the screen facing away from you. Make it to where three 
fingers of each hand can rest on the screen. The other way to hold it is 
tabletop mode. Lay the phone on a flat surface and place three fingers from 
each hand on the screen. Someone else may do a better job in explaining 
tabletop mode as I find it a little confusing. By the way, when you put the 
phone in Braille screen input mode, it is all done in landscape. One way you 
can also tell where your fingers are on the screen, is to put the phone in 
exploring mode. While Braille Screen Input is on, put one finger on the screen 
and hold it. Keep adding fingers on the screen and it will tell you kind of 
where your fingers are. It will say something like, “Dot 4” that should be on 
your right hand if you are holding it correctly. When you add fingers to the 
exploring mode, you will get a feel for where the dots are on the screen. 
Remember to keep one finger on the screen to remain in exploring mode.

 

This has been a load of information I know. Keep it for reference and don’t 
hesitate to ask for mor clarification on anything you don’t understand.

 

Thanks,

 

Jenn

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
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Subject: RE: I'm not sure that all of my emails are getting through and. Thank 
you Anna.

 

Hi,

 

I am considering the possibility of using my iPhone SE 2020 as a note-taker 
using Braille to input the text.

 

I am a Braille user and I am wondering what apps people recommend for taking 
notes on an iPhone.

 

I have around 150 files on my current notetaker.  If I can use the iPhone one 
third as efficient as the Himms Braille Sense, then I want to try.

 

, This is my first iPhone so I do not know if there might be a native app 
already on the phone or should I consider something from the app store.

 

Are other iPhone users switching from note-takers to the iPhone?

 

Regards,

 

James B   

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:40 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: I'm not sure that all of my emails are getting through and. Thank 
you Anna.

 

Hi James,

 

You're welcome. It sounds complicated, but if you know braille, you'll catch on 
quickly. It can be a very efficient way of typing text on an iPhone, especially 
if you type in contracted braille.

 

Best of luck,

Anna

 

 

On May 24, 2020, at 4:38 PM, mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I spent a bit of time trying to figure out how to get Braille input to work on 
my iPhone.  And I just want to make sure that Anna knows that I appreciate her 
post concerning how to get that going.

 

It looks complicated to learn but it just might be worth the time.

 

Yes.  You gave me enough to get started.

 

Thank you very very much,

 

James B  

 

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From Apple Insider: How to fix the iOS Family Sharing bug without losing your app data

[Richard Turner]

How to fix the iOS Family Sharing bug without losing your app data By Malcolm 
Owen |

A recent bug stemming from the Family Sharing feature of iOS and iPadOS is 
preventing users from being able to run apps they already own on their devices.

Here's how to fix it while Apple prepares to patch the issue.

On Friday, a bug surfaced that affected a large number of Apple users, 
primarily those who updated their iPhone or iPad to the just-released iOS 13.5 
and iPadOS 13.5. The bug displays a prompt on screen claiming the app is "no 
longer shared" with the user, and suggesting they buy it from the App Store to 
continue using it.

Due to the mention of sharing within the message, the bug seems to be related 
to Family Sharing, a function of Apple's account system that allows apps and 
other content to be shared between a small number of people. This in theory can 
save a family money, as apps do not have to be purchased multiple times.

Despite being primarily used for paid apps, the Family Sharing bug seems to 
also impact other apps stored on a device that were acquired at no charge. 
Popular apps including YouTube, Facebook, and Discord are also able to be 
blocked by the bug.

Given the high number of complaints about the bug, it is probable that Apple is 
working on some form of patch that fixes it in a future operating system 
update, though that may take time. Apple has also seemingly attempted a 
temporary fix in the form of reissued app updates , though this will not 
necessarily work for every app affected by the problem, nor for all users.

Fixes for the problem fundamentally involve removing the app from the device, 
then reinstalling it. While users could simply delete the app manually and 
reacquire it from the App Store, this can lead to lost app data, or at the very 
least needing to reauthenticate with the app itself.

There is a way of accomplishing the same thing while preserving the app data, 
which involves offloading apps . Offloading apps will delete apps from the 
device, but preserve any user-specific data, including files created by the 
app, so the app will be ready to go from the state of when it was last used 
once it is back on the device.

App offloading can be set to run automatically, making it a great way to 
preserve the storage capacity of an iPhone or iPad, but the solution here 
requires going down the manual route.

Manual Offloading Once you know of an app that is affected by the bug, head to 
the Settings app, then enter General , then iPhone Storage or iPad Storage . 
Scroll down the page to find the app in question, and select it.

On the new screen, which shows the app's size and documents and data size, 
select Offload App . A confirmation dialog will appear, requiring you to select 
Offload App once again.

Once selected the app will delete.

Offloading and reinstalling takes a few taps, but keeps your data intact unlike 
normal deletion. Stay on the same page, and select the new Reinstall App option 
where Offload App was previously located. This will re-download the app to the 
device.

Further Notes Given the potentially high number of apps that may be affected, 
it is advised to conduct this process while on Wi-Fi, rather than using 
cellular data connections.




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Re: Sounds and haptics

[James Bentley]

I played with the haptic and sound settings until I got everything 100% perfect.
I appreciate all of the post that everybody made.
I sure do love this new SE.
James be

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 25, 2020, at 3:18 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, i have the SE 2020. and my sounds and haptics work fine.
>  
> In-fact, i had to lower the intensity of my haptic feed-back, as it was way 
> to harsh.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics
>  
> I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.
>  
> I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.
>  
> I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
> iPhone models.
>  
> Stay safe,
>  
> James B 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics
>  
> This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
> cleans the toilet.
> - Original Message -
> From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics
>  
> It could depend witch iPhone you have...
> 
> Lyne
> 
> 
> Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :
> 
> 
> The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
> sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
> Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
> using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
> cleans the toilet.
> - Original Message -
> From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM
> Subject: Sounds and haptics
>  
> Hi all,
> Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.
> I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
> difference.
> What am I missing?
> Cheers,
> James B 
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Re: Sounds and haptics

[Dave]

I agree. That is my experience too.

Dave.


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Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

Oh man, what a major difference this made when I changed from 100% to 50%.

 

Now, I don’t feel all of that thumping through the case of the phone. That’s 
not so cool when my phone is on my chest while I’m in bed. And, I am still 
getting the same good haptic feedback through the home button which I like.

 

This is great.

 

I love this phone.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne

 

  Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :

   

  The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

  Subject: Sounds and haptics

   

  Hi all,

  Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

  I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

  What am I missing?

  Cheers,

  James B  

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Re: Sounds and haptics

[Dave]

I agree. If you lower it to zero, and then increase it, you should feel the 
difference.

Dave.


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

Did you change the haptic intensity found under Settings, Accessibility, 
Voiceover, Audio, Haptic intensity? I suggest you try swiping through a few 
different controls with that set to 0% and compare it to the 100% setting.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

 

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne

 

  Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :

   

  The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

  Subject: Sounds and haptics

   

  Hi all,

  Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

  I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

  What am I missing?

  Cheers,

  James B  

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Re: Sounds and haptics

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I have lowered my haptic feed-back, to about 40 percent, as i found the default 
setting, was to strong. It felt like my phone was being kicked out of my hand.

Dave.


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 5:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

Mike,

 

I've gotten used to it by now so it's not quite as noticeable as when I first 
converted to iOS 13.x but I notice the haptic feedback around the body of my SE 
2020 as I swipe through the home screen icons or between any other screen 
controls. I've got my haptic intensity set to 80% and I don't use a heavy case 
on my iPhone but I definitely get haptic feedback around the body of the phone, 
not just its home button.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

Subject: Sounds and haptics

 

Hi all,

 

Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

 

I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

 

What am I missing?

 

Cheers,

 

James B  

 

 

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[Dave]

Hi, i have the SE 2020. and my sounds and haptics work fine.

In-fact, i had to lower the intensity of my haptic feed-back, as it was way to 
harsh.

Dave.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sounds and haptics

I experimented with both settings turned on and then turned off.

 

I am getting the same results as best as I can tell on this SE 2020.

 

I am guessing that there may be a few settings that are specific to different 
iPhone models.

 

Stay safe,

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

This is for the new SE 2020 iPhone.  James, if not I'm way off base!


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

 

It could depend witch iPhone you have...

Lyne





  Le 24 mai 2020 à 22:02, Mike B.  a écrit :

   

  The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
using the Home button and don't know where else it does its thing.


  Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

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  From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM

  Subject: Sounds and haptics

   

  Hi all,

  Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

  I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

  What am I missing?

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It also does it through the screen.

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From: Mike B. 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sounds and haptics

The sounds are what you hear through the speakers.  The haptic vibration / 
sound is the so called haptic feature simulating a certain feel through the 
Home button.  I should say that I only get this haptic feel / vibration when 
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Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
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From: bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:24 PM
Subject: Sounds and haptics

Hi all,

 

Under sounds and haptics, I find keyboard clicks and system haptics.

 

I experimented with each turned off and then turned on.  I do not see the 
difference.

 

What am I missing?

 

Cheers,

 

James B  

 

 

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