Re: How to use the Translate app in iOS 14 | AppleInsider

[Mike B]

Sorry folks, meant to send this to myself.  Thanks much Richard.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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Using the Docs APP

[Duane Steele]

A couple of weeks ago, someone graciously suggested I download the Does app for 
opening files sent to me from GoogleDocs. Yesterday, having received another 
such file from someone, I didn't know how to send it to the APP. Any 
suggestions? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
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sinking record label discography to iPod touch on Mac os10 catalina?

[trahern culver]

Hi everyone hope you're all doing well and staying safe. I have a record 
label discography that I would like to sync to my iPod touch buy  record 
label I know that  Apple Music doesn't really support this as such is there 
a way to add the record label discography folder in the Finder directly to 
a playlist? Or is there any way I can use a  smart playlist to add the 
record label discography to my iPod touch? 
Also can I sync the record label discography folder directly from my Finder 
in a play list  format or do I have to use Apple Music to do this? Your 
help with this situation would be most welcome everyone thanks again for 
your help :-)

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RE: Touchscreen laptops

[Simon A Fogarty]

But in the case of the del latitude devices,
It's sounding to me like a 15 inch notebook,
 Which has the full keyboard and number pad on the right side of the keyboard.

I can't say I'm a fan of the windows touch screen machines but that's a 
personal thing 
Mainly due to my knuckles brushing the screen if  typing at the top of the 
keyboard,
If they have touch screen models of dell latitude,
Check with them on non touch screen models as I'd think they would bee or 
should be cheaper,

But the latitude is a good make of machine,

I spent a lot of time early this year working with the 5400 and 5500 series 
models.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Saturday, 7 November 2020 1:44 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touchscreen laptops

Most models come with a non touch version. That could bring down the price. I 
feel the Apple products make for a better touch experience, but that could be 
that I'm just more accustomed to iOS gestures.

Joe


On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> Thank you Joe, this is very useful. I too would  rather keep my hands 
> on a keyboard. The only plus about this Dell latitude– I don’t 
> remember the model number right off is that it had a full-size 
> keyboard that included numb pad.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is 
>> to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is 
>> smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at 
>> times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
>> I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too 
>> far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when 
>> it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something 
>> correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of 
>> the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal 
>> thing, but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the 
>> keyboard itself to be productive.
>>
>> I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or 
>>> popular adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you 
>>> what you know about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know 
>>> is how they work.
>>> Do
>>> they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice 
>>> over or other accessibility feature to speak what it is with some 
>>> equivalent of voice over or other accessibility feature to speak 
>>> what it is you’ve touched let’s say to open a program or app such as 
>>> word? Or does the touchscreen serve as a regular monitor as you 
>>> would have on a PC desktop computer? I don’t need to use a  computer 
>>> with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy cited help by having a 
>>> laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any conflict here? The 
>>> local little computer store where I might buy such a refurbished 
>>> unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard getting 
>>> through to them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate 
>>> question for the list I will just wait till I get through to them. 
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to Return Amazon Items the Right Way: Fast, Easy and Usually Free, cNet

[Holly]

Mark:

I have been offered this pickup option every time I call Amazon disability 
for info on a return.


It is wonderful!  No fuss, no muss.  The driver will take the package and 
apply the label for you and off it goes. 


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Apple music

[Justin Harris]

Has anyone noticed since iOS 14.1 or so that a lot of elements in Apple music 
aren’t labeled or that it just seems a lot more buggy than it used to? For me, 
iOS 14 started out really nice, and I didn’t notice a lot of the bugs others 
talked about in this list, but all of a sudden Apple Music is all kinds of 
messed up.

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How to Return Amazon Items the Right Way: Fast, Easy and Usually Free, cNet

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I am posting the following article because I know that many of us make
purchases from Amazon via our Apple Devices.  

Just two days ago, I returned an item because of some cosmetic damage that
must have occurred during shipping.  

To my delight, I received a replacement product, today.  

Got to hand it to Amazon; when it comes to convenience, they are second to
none.

I hope you find the article as useful as I.

Mark

How to return Amazon items the right way: Fast, easy and usually free
Send back Amazon purchases just as easily and conveniently as you ordered
them -- from the comfort of your own home.
By Angela Lang, cNet.
Posted on Nov. 2, 2020.

Don't spend a single penny returning your unwanted Amazon package if you
don't have to -- not even on gas.

Amazon has earned its reputation by making online shopping fast and easy,
and package delivery free, but the same can't always be said about its
return process. Although Amazon's plethora of return options does mean more
choices when shipping back purchases, Amazon often presents only the default
return method, making you dig for cheaper or more convenient ways to send
your stuff back.

Amazon's preferred return service very well could be the most convenient for
you, if, for example, you live near a Kohl's. All Kohl's store accept Amazon
returns, and have been known to hand out Kohl's coupons while you're there.
But if a trip to Kohl's isn't on your itinerary any time soon, accidentally
clicking that option -- or a different one -- can add an unnecessary errand
to your list.

If you'd rather return items to Amazon the same way you ordered them --
without ever having to trek beyond your own front door -- here's the quick,
easy and (oftentimes) free way to send stuff back.

If you're already a Kohl's shopper, it might be convenient to return Amazon
purchases there.

Give a reason, not an excuse
The first thing Amazon will ask after you start the return process is the
reason for your return. It's important to be as honest and precise here as
possible. Amazon, as well as Amazon's third-party sellers, will want to
resell merchandise in good working order (like Amazon does through Amazon
Warehouse Deals) so your items will be checked against your return reason. 

Not only can misclassifying a return result in negative repercussions to
your Amazon account (the company has been known to ban shoppers who misuse
the return process), you also might end up paying for return shipping when
you didn't need to.

For example, if you select "no longer needed" by default, you may be charged
for the return. If your reason for return is actually more specific, you may
not.

Here are all the various return reasons Amazon gives you to choose from as
well as a description of exactly what they mean:
.   No longer needed: You changed your mind and don't want the item any
more.
.   Bought by mistake: You accidentally hit Buy it Now or forgot to
delete an item from your cart before checking out.
.   Better price available: You find the same thing at, say, Walmart for
less than what you paid for it at Amazon.
.   Inaccurate website description: Example: The photo shows a deep
royal blue, but the item is a light sky blue. Similar to but different from
"Wrong item was sent" (see below).
.   Item defective or doesn't work: Could be that it's broken or simply
doesn't do what it's designed to do (for example, a can opener that spins up
but doesn't cut the lid off).
.   Product damaged, but shipping box OK: The box isn't dented, cut or
scratched, but the item inside has cosmetic or mechanical damage.
.   Item arrived too late: The item was delivered past the guaranteed
delivery and missed, for example, a birthday.
.   Missing or broken parts: Similar to "Item was defective or doesn't
work" but applies not to the item itself but the attachments, etc. that come
with it.
.   Product and shipping box both damaged: Somewhere between being boxed
up and arriving at your door, the package was mishandled, and the product
arrives broken.
.   Wrong item was sent: If you received a completely different item,
not just that the size, shape or color wasn't what you selected (see
"Inaccurate website description").
.   Received extra item I didn't buy: Something extra got packaged with
your order, and you feel obliged to return it.
.   Didn't approve purchase: Someone, either in your family (a child, a
spouse) or a friend (say, one on whose computer you logged into Amazon and
forgot to log out) ordered something and you got charged.


Tell Amazon where to send your refund
Next you'll have to choose how you want your money back. The quickest way is
to receive a credit to your Amazon account, which Amazon will issue as soon
as UPS scans your return into its system. But then you're stuck spending the
money at Amazon.

You can also have the funds put back on your debit or credit card. But even
though Amazon will issue the refund as soon as UPS 

RE: App to track movies you have seen

[Christopher Chaltain]

I keep track of the books I've read in a file as well, but I suppose for books 
someone could check out the Good Reads app. I haven't taken a look at it myself 
though. I have sent in some feedback to the BARD team so that you could use 
BARD Express or the web page to keep track of the books you've read and not 
just the books you've downloaded, but although they've been receptive to my 
suggestions, I'm not sure they're getting enough feedback to make it worth 
their while.

For movies, I've got nothing except for the same idea of using a file or spread 
sheet. It's not as important to me to keep track of the movies I've watched 
since the big reason I keep track of the books I've read is to keep track of 
where I am in a series of books.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Marty Hutchings
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: App to track movies you have seen
> 
> Good to know that I  am not the only one to keep track of books that I have
> read.  I use Excel for that.  I suppose that it could also work for movies 
> that I
> have seen.
> 
> 
> 
> Love in Christ
> Marty
> If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William
> Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
> fury,
> signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -Original
> Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: App to track movies you have seen
> 
> I track books I've read by putting them in a file.
> I don't know of an app designed as a database that is user friendly.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds
> among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace 
> to
> others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Alexandra
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: App to track movies you have seen
> 
> Hello,
> 
> does anyone know an iOS app to track movies you have seen? I checked out
> IMDB but didn't like it at all.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Alexandra
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Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Mike B]

Richard,

I forwarded this message to my iPhone and opened the link from the mail app, 
and it opens on the Google Translate app in the App Store.  It says it's 4 
years old and it was developed by Apple.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


Here is the link to the Apple Translate again.

See if it says to Open the app if you activate it on your phone.







https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate/id1514844618

I may have downloaded it earlier and just thought it appeared after iOS 14, 
I’d believe just about anything right now.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



You're not going to believe this, but here goes.  I went into the App 
Library and activated the drag option on the Translate app and dragged the 
Translate app to my Home Screen.  Well, I went to the Home Screen and loe 
and behold it was Google Translate!  LOL  Go figure!  That explains why 
Translate wasn't installed into the Settings app, Google Translate is 
already there.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 11:43 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



You got me there.

I’d call Apple Accessibility at this point.

I would think dragging it out of the app library would put it on the home 
screen, not just a shortcut, but, like I said, I have not dealt with the app 
library.

Best of luck,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL

In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



This is very interesting and confusing.

Did you move the app out of the Library?

I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.



One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Richard,



I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I 
believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the 
actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is 
correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press 
gesture?  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an 

Re: App to track movies you have seen

[Marty Hutchings]

Good to know that I  am not the only one to keep track of books that I have 
read.  I use Excel for that.  I suppose that it could also work for movies 
that I  have seen.




Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William 
Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and 
fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: App to track movies you have seen

I track books I've read by putting them in a file.
I don't know of an app designed as a database that is user friendly.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


Live long and prosper 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Alexandra

Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App to track movies you have seen

Hello,

does anyone know an iOS app to track movies you have seen? I checked out 
IMDB but didn't like it at all.


Thanks in advance.

Alexandra

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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

Here is the link to the Apple Translate again.
See if it says to Open the app if you activate it on your phone.



https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate/id1514844618
I may have downloaded it earlier and just thought it appeared after iOS 14, I’d 
believe just about anything right now.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

You're not going to believe this, but here goes.  I went into the App Library 
and activated the drag option on the Translate app and dragged the Translate 
app to my Home Screen.  Well, I went to the Home Screen and loe and behold it 
was Google Translate!  LOL  Go figure!  That explains why Translate wasn't 
installed into the Settings app, Google Translate is already there.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

You got me there.
I’d call Apple Accessibility at this point.
I would think dragging it out of the app library would put it on the home 
screen, not just a shortcut, but, like I said, I have not dealt with the app 
library.
Best of luck,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL
In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

This is very interesting and confusing.
Did you move the app out of the Library?
I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.

One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

disappearing numpad while on call.

[Dave]

My numpad seems to be disappearing very quickly since the update to 14.1 the 
other day. is there some way I can make it stay up longer for entering numbers 
etc. while on a call to banks etc.? 
any help is great needed. 
dave 

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Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Mike B]

You're not going to believe this, but here goes.  I went into the App 
Library and activated the drag option on the Translate app and dragged the 
Translate app to my Home Screen.  Well, I went to the Home Screen and loe 
and behold it was Google Translate!  LOL  Go figure!  That explains why 
Translate wasn't installed into the Settings app, Google Translate is 
already there.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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program.

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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


You got me there.

I’d call Apple Accessibility at this point.

I would think dragging it out of the app library would put it on the home 
screen, not just a shortcut, but, like I said, I have not dealt with the app 
library.

Best of luck,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL

In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



This is very interesting and confusing.

Did you move the app out of the Library?

I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.



One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Richard,



I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I 
believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the 
actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is 
correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press 
gesture?  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

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From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I just tried it by typing in a phrase.

I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.

It showed the text translation.

I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.

This is on my SE 1st generation.

It works the same on my 

RE: App to track movies you have seen

[Richard Turner]

I track books I've read by putting them in a file.
I don't know of an app designed as a database that is user friendly.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alexandra
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App to track movies you have seen

Hello,

does anyone know an iOS app to track movies you have seen? I checked out IMDB 
but didn't like it at all.

Thanks in advance.

Alexandra

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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

You got me there.
I’d call Apple Accessibility at this point.
I would think dragging it out of the app library would put it on the home 
screen, not just a shortcut, but, like I said, I have not dealt with the app 
library.
Best of luck,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL
In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

This is very interesting and confusing.
Did you move the app out of the Library?
I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.

One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Richard,

I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I believe 
you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the actions but, 
apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is correct way to 
access the actions or the correct way to do a long press gesture?  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any 

RE: 14.2 update question

[davycuppens]

That took over 45 minutes here in Belgium on an iphone xr with plenty of space, 
30 GB free space.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Karen Poulakos
Verzonden: vrijdag 6 november 2020 14:42
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: 14.2 update question

I'm trying to update my Iphone, older SE,  It's been stuck on "Preparing update 
for a pretty long time.  Probably almost a half hour.  How long should that 
take?

Thanks,

Karen P

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Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[deidre muccio]

Thanks for the description. These are all definite pluses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you use the app, you theoretically could have a conversation with someone 
> who speaks another language and have the iPhone be your translator.
> It also says that if you have the phone landscaped, it will show each 
> language on its own half of the screen.
> Plus, if you are trying to understand how words are written in that other 
> language, it shows you the text and you can store phrases as favorites.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones
> 
> I don’t understand what’s new about this other than it appears to be an app 
> now available on the phone. I use Siri and I simply ask something like how do 
> you say such and such in Spanish and I get an immediate answer and I can also 
> go up a liner down a line and remind myself what I’ve asked and what the 
> wording is and then I can arrow down and see the spelling and spell it out 
> however I please. So what is this big new feature?   it sounds a bit more 
> cumbersome to use. It probably would be useful if you wanted to save all the 
> stuff that you had searched for which you can’t do when you use Siri because 
> as soon as you ask the next query it will only save just so much. Such as 
> messages you might get a string of messages that you’ve asked Siri to send 
> but that’s only going to go so far. And as soon as you leave the homepage and 
> that screen there’s nothing left to go back to to check. Or double check in 
> this case.
> 
> 
> Deirdre
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
>> 
>> It's called translate, and it's found between the apps news and maps.
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> 
 On 11/5/2020 9:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
>>> Where is this feature found please?
>>> 
>>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
>>> government program.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried it with speaking.
>>> 
>>> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>>> 
>>> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home 
>>> button, if you have a home button.
>>> 
>>> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then 
>>> flick twice to the right passed the close button to finished 
>>> listening and double tap.
>>> 
>>> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
>>> English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not 
>>> sure I could get it.
>>> 
>>> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish 
>>> at a more reasonable speed.
>>> 
>>> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>>> 
>>> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
>>> button to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other 
>>> language.
>>> 
>>> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be 
>>> used to teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd018db567014462965e008d8824ff97
>>> d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637402627277399603%7CU
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>>> NA3bnvvj%2B1fJMCNI%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of CJ & AA MAY
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
>>> To: 

Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[deidre muccio]

Oh yes, I remember this being under discussion sometime within the last year. 
Yeah that’s a definite plus. I agree wholeheartedly! I’d forgotten about that 
aspect.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> If you use the app, you theoretically could have a conversation with someone 
> who speaks another language and have the iPhone be your translator.
> It also says that if you have the phone landscaped, it will show each 
> language on its own half of the screen.
> Plus, if you are trying to understand how words are written in that other 
> language, it shows you the text and you can store phrases as favorites.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones
> 
> I don’t understand what’s new about this other than it appears to be an app 
> now available on the phone. I use Siri and I simply ask something like how do 
> you say such and such in Spanish and I get an immediate answer and I can also 
> go up a liner down a line and remind myself what I’ve asked and what the 
> wording is and then I can arrow down and see the spelling and spell it out 
> however I please. So what is this big new feature?   it sounds a bit more 
> cumbersome to use. It probably would be useful if you wanted to save all the 
> stuff that you had searched for which you can’t do when you use Siri because 
> as soon as you ask the next query it will only save just so much. Such as 
> messages you might get a string of messages that you’ve asked Siri to send 
> but that’s only going to go so far. And as soon as you leave the homepage and 
> that screen there’s nothing left to go back to to check. Or double check in 
> this case.
> 
> 
> Deirdre
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
>> 
>> It's called translate, and it's found between the apps news and maps.
>> 
>> 
>> Maria Campbell
>> lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> 
>> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
>> --Edmund Burke
>> 
 On 11/5/2020 9:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
>>> Where is this feature found please?
>>> 
>>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
>>> government program.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just tried it with speaking.
>>> 
>>> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>>> 
>>> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home 
>>> button, if you have a home button.
>>> 
>>> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then 
>>> flick twice to the right passed the close button to finished 
>>> listening and double tap.
>>> 
>>> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
>>> English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not 
>>> sure I could get it.
>>> 
>>> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish 
>>> at a more reasonable speed.
>>> 
>>> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>>> 
>>> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
>>> button to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other 
>>> language.
>>> 
>>> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be 
>>> used to teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd018db567014462965e008d8824ff97
>>> d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637402627277399603%7CU
>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mHhYFA%2FjcjPYqFVqu3X%2BA%2BA5RY6
>>> NA3bnvvj%2B1fJMCNI%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: 

Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Mike B]

No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it!  LOL
In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to 
Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option.  If I drag the app to my 
Home Screen will this put the app in Settings?  From what I understand that 
dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the 
desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


This is very interesting and confusing.

Did you move the app out of the Library?

I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.



One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Richard,



I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I 
believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the 
actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is 
correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press 
gesture?  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I just tried it by typing in a phrase.

I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.

It showed the text translation.

I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.

This is on my SE 1st generation.

It works the same on my SE 2020.

Something to be aware of.

On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.

If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.

I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you 
flick right twice to finish and double tap?

You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. 

App to track movies you have seen

[Alexandra]

Hello,

does anyone know an iOS app to track movies you have seen? I checked out
IMDB but didn't like it at all.

Thanks in advance.

Alexandra

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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

This is very interesting and confusing.
Did you move the app out of the Library?
I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library.

One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap…




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Richard,

I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I believe 
you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the actions but, 
apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is correct way to 
access the actions or the correct way to do a long press gesture?  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I just tried it by typing in a phrase.
I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.
It showed the text translation.
I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.
This is on my SE 1st generation.
It works the same on my SE 2020.
Something to be aware of.
On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.
If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.
I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 

Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Mike B]

Richard,

I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library.  I 
believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the 
actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly.  What is 
correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press 
gesture?  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I just tried it by typing in a phrase.

I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.

It showed the text translation.

I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.

This is on my SE 1st generation.

It works the same on my SE 2020.

Something to be aware of.

On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.

If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.

I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.

Alison





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones



After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you 
flick right twice to finish and double tap?

You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



  On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G  wrote:

  Hi,

  I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio 
translation. It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well 
as put it in text. Is that right?

  Thank you,

  Beth

  Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:



Did you update to 14.2?





Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com



All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
nothing.

--Edmund Burke



  On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:

  Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.



  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

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government

  program.



  - Original Message -

  From: Mike B

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM

  Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones





  Where is this feature found please?



  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

  Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
government

  program.



  - Original Message -

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM

  Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones





 

Re: Air Pods Pro

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Can you connect the AirPods Pro to the over the ear adapter? Or are they 
different headphones?
Interesting if that is the case. How does that work?
Are you talking about over the ear headphones as well?
Thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 12:34 PM, jo Hart  wrote:
> 
> 
> I too had the same issue.  After checking it out I found that Apple has the 
> over the ear price that you can connect to them and they work perfect.
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a pair and I love them except one thing. They tend to fall out of my 
>> ears more than the original air pods did. I have messed with the ear tips 
>> that came with them, but they still just fall out. Anyway, that is my two 
>> cents worth. Other than that, I love them. The noise canceling is awesome!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>>> 
>>> David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He 
>>> liked them a lot.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:23 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I’d love to hear 
 either pros or cons!
 
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RE: Air Pods Pro

[Christopher Chaltain]

I got a pair of Airpod Pro’s last summer. I was debating between the standard 
Airpods and the Pro’s, and it was due to feedback on this list that I went with 
the Pro’s. I have no regrets. The only downsides I see is the price and the 
fact that transparency mode isn’t quite the same thing as just not having any 
passive or active noise cancellation at all. The flip side to the noise 
cancellation though is that you do get better sound quality.

 

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Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Air Pods Pro

 

Hi,

 

I have a pair and I love them except one thing. They tend to fall out of my 
ears more than the original air pods did. I have messed with the ear tips that 
came with them, but they still just fall out. Anyway, that is my two cents 
worth. Other than that, I love them. The noise canceling is awesome!

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi





On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi Rich,

 

David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He liked 
them a lot.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:23 AM, richr...@gmail.com   
wrote:

 

Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I’d love to hear 
either pros or cons!

 

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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I just tried it by typing in a phrase.
I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.
It showed the text translation.
I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.
This is on my SE 1st generation.
It works the same on my SE 2020.
Something to be aware of.
On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.
If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.
I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you flick 
right twice to finish and double tap?
You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G 
mailto:bethm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio translation. 
It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well as put it in 
text. Is that right?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell 
mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did you update to 14.2?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:
Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
program.

- Original Message -
From: Mike B
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones


Where is this feature found please?

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
program.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: 

RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[CJ & AA MAY]

Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

I just tried it by typing in a phrase.

I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.

It showed the text translation.

I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.

This is on my SE 1st generation.

It works the same on my SE 2020.

Something to be aware of.

On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.

If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.

I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

Live long and prosper  

 

Check out my web site at:  

 www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you flick 
right twice to finish and double tap?

You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G mailto:bethm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio translation. 
It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well as put it in 
text. Is that right?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Did you update to 14.2?

 

 

Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com  

 

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke

 

On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:

Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government

program.

 

- Original Message -

From: Mike B

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM

Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

 

Where is this feature found please?

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government

program.

 

- Original Message -

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

 

I just tried it with speaking.

 

It defaults to from English to Spanish.

 

There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button,

if you have a home button.

 

Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick

twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double

tap.

 

Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in English,

but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could get

it.

 

But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a

more reasonable speed.

 

There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.

 

I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the button

to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.

 

It 

Re: Air Pods Pro

[jo Hart]

I too had the same issue.  After checking it out I found that Apple has the
over the ear price that you can connect to them and they work perfect.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jennie Facer  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a pair and I love them except one thing. They tend to fall out of
> my ears more than the original air pods did. I have messed with the ear
> tips that came with them, but they still just fall out. Anyway, that is my
> two cents worth. Other than that, I love them. The noise canceling is
> awesome!
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
> On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>
> Hi Rich,
>
>
> David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He
> liked them a lot.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:23 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I’d love to hear
> either pros or cons!
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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[CJ & AA MAY]

I obviously need to play with a bit more as at present it isn't doing any of 
what you say!
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 16:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

If you use the app, you theoretically could have a conversation with someone 
who speaks another language and have the iPhone be your translator.
It also says that if you have the phone landscaped, it will show each language 
on its own half of the screen.
Plus, if you are trying to understand how words are written in that other 
language, it shows you the text and you can store phrases as favorites.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I don’t understand what’s new about this other than it appears to be an app now 
available on the phone. I use Siri and I simply ask something like how do you 
say such and such in Spanish and I get an immediate answer and I can also go up 
a liner down a line and remind myself what I’ve asked and what the wording is 
and then I can arrow down and see the spelling and spell it out however I 
please. So what is this big new feature?   it sounds a bit more cumbersome to 
use. It probably would be useful if you wanted to save all the stuff that you 
had searched for which you can’t do when you use Siri because as soon as you 
ask the next query it will only save just so much. Such as messages you might 
get a string of messages that you’ve asked Siri to send but that’s only going 
to go so far. And as soon as you leave the homepage and that screen there’s 
nothing left to go back to to check. Or double check in this case.


Deirdre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> It's called translate, and it's found between the apps news and maps.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 11/5/2020 9:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
>> Where is this feature found please?
>> 
>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
>> government program.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried it with speaking.
>> 
>> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>> 
>> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home 
>> button, if you have a home button.
>> 
>> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then 
>> flick twice to the right passed the close button to finished 
>> listening and double tap.
>> 
>> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
>> English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not 
>> sure I could get it.
>> 
>> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish 
>> at a more reasonable speed.
>> 
>> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>> 
>> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
>> button to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.
>> 
>> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be 
>> used to teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Live long and prosper 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd018db567014462965e008d8824ff97
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CJ & AA MAY
>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: 

Natural amplifier/stand

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, does anyone use a stand that naturally amplifies their phone and/or 
iPad? I remember years ago, I set my iPod touch in a bowl and it naturally 
amplified the music a bit. It was a silly, perfect solution on my dresser.

I’d love some sort of stand for my iPad mini. I often hold it cupped in my hand 
at the bottom. This naturally amplifies the speech when I’m reading a article 
or something.

Any suggestions, or do you own something that has worked for you?

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: How Do I Select, Copy, and Paste in IOS 14.2

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Thanks, Richard.  I didn't have text selection in the rotor.
On Nov 6, 2020 8:53 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> If you are talking about something like the way Jaws does that in Windows, no.
> If you adth text selection to the rotor, you can select by chunks from characters to words, lines, page, or select all.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>
>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:20 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to set a starting point and end point for a selection
>> block anywhere in iOS?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On 11/5/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has not changed.
>>>
>>> I prefer using the text selection on the rotor, but nothing with copy,
>>>
>>> paste, or select has changed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>>
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>>
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>>
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>>>
>>> Herbert
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, All,
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see how to select, copy, and paste text in IOS 14.2.  Do I have to
>>>
>>> use the shortcuts app?
>>>
>>>
>>> Dulce
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Re: Trying to make a contribution

[Duane Steele]

Thanks Richard for that helpful information. I went to the next page and was 
able to make my contribution successfully. So, all's well that ends well, and 
my granddaughter's a step closer toward a goal, and that makes my day complete. 


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Sadly, there are some pages that just do not work correctly with VoiceOver.
> Do you have a computer to try it on?
> 
> Rarely, if I do the three finger swipe up to scroll below the troublesome 
> field and then do left single finger flicks to get back to it it becomes 
> useable.
> The other thing to check, is if it is a picker item and you double tap on it, 
> check lower on the screen.  Sometimes, the picker list is near the bottom.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 8:12 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: Trying to make a contribution
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I'm trying to make a contribution to help my granddaughter on a project. When 
> I go to the first page, I'm told there's a picker item from which I must 
> choose the amount I wish to give. But all I'm getting is a blank page, and no 
> such item. I've tried changing the format options to show the reader view to 
> see if this would correct the problem. But it doesn't. Any suggestions for 
> completing this transaction and supporting my granddaughter? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

If you use the app, you theoretically could have a conversation with someone 
who speaks another language and have the iPhone be your translator.
It also says that if you have the phone landscaped, it will show each language 
on its own half of the screen.
Plus, if you are trying to understand how words are written in that other 
language, it shows you the text and you can store phrases as favorites.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I don’t understand what’s new about this other than it appears to be an app now 
available on the phone. I use Siri and I simply ask something like how do you 
say such and such in Spanish and I get an immediate answer and I can also go up 
a liner down a line and remind myself what I’ve asked and what the wording is 
and then I can arrow down and see the spelling and spell it out however I 
please. So what is this big new feature?   it sounds a bit more cumbersome to 
use. It probably would be useful if you wanted to save all the stuff that you 
had searched for which you can’t do when you use Siri because as soon as you 
ask the next query it will only save just so much. Such as messages you might 
get a string of messages that you’ve asked Siri to send but that’s only going 
to go so far. And as soon as you leave the homepage and that screen there’s 
nothing left to go back to to check. Or double check in this case.


Deirdre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> It's called translate, and it's found between the apps news and maps.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 11/5/2020 9:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
>> Where is this feature found please?
>> 
>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite 
>> government program.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried it with speaking.
>> 
>> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>> 
>> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home 
>> button, if you have a home button.
>> 
>> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then 
>> flick twice to the right passed the close button to finished 
>> listening and double tap.
>> 
>> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
>> English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not 
>> sure I could get it.
>> 
>> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish 
>> at a more reasonable speed.
>> 
>> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>> 
>> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
>> button to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.
>> 
>> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be 
>> used to teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must 
>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of 
>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have 
>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Live long and prosper 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: 
>> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd018db567014462965e008d8824ff97
>> d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637402627277399603%7CU
>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1h
>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=mHhYFA%2FjcjPYqFVqu3X%2BA%2BA5RY6
>> NA3bnvvj%2B1fJMCNI%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CJ & AA MAY
>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure 
>> out how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the 
>> editfield and then it would either speak or show the translation, but 
>> nothing happened.
>> Has 

RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Richard Turner]

I just tried it by typing in a phrase.
I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on 
the onscreen keyboard.
It showed the text translation.
I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it.
This is on my SE 1st generation.
It works the same on my SE 2020.
Something to be aware of.
On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between 
News and Maps.
If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to 
download the languages, but never does.
I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you flick 
right twice to finish and double tap?
You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G 
mailto:bethm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio translation. 
It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well as put it in 
text. Is that right?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell 
mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did you update to 14.2?


Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:
Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
program.

- Original Message -
From: Mike B
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones


Where is this feature found please?

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
program.

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


I just tried it with speaking.

It defaults to from English to Spanish.

There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button,
if you have a home button.

Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick
twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double
tap.

Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in English,
but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could get
it.

But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a
more reasonable speed.

There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.

I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the button
to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.

It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used to
teach oneself some useful phrases I think.







Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert



Live long and prosper 



Check out my web site at: 

RE: Trying to make a contribution

[Richard Turner]

Sadly, there are some pages that just do not work correctly with VoiceOver.
Do you have a computer to try it on?

Rarely, if I do the three finger swipe up to scroll below the troublesome field 
and then do left single finger flicks to get back to it it becomes useable.
The other thing to check, is if it is a picker item and you double tap on it, 
check lower on the screen.  Sometimes, the picker list is near the bottom.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 8:12 AM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: Trying to make a contribution

Hello Listers,

I'm trying to make a contribution to help my granddaughter on a project. When I 
go to the first page, I'm told there's a picker item from which I must choose 
the amount I wish to give. But all I'm getting is a blank page, and no such 
item. I've tried changing the format options to show the reader view to see if 
this would correct the problem. But it doesn't. Any suggestions for completing 
this transaction and supporting my granddaughter? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Trying to make a contribution

[Jennie Facer]

Unfortunately, I wouldn’t know without seeing the site for myself. Maybe 
someone else might have some more ideas.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> I'm trying to make a contribution to help my granddaughter on a project. When 
> I go to the first page, I'm told there's a picker item from which I must 
> choose the amount I wish to give. But all I'm getting is a blank page, and no 
> such item. I've tried changing the format options to show the reader view to 
> see if this would correct the problem. But it doesn't. Any suggestions for 
> completing this transaction and supporting my granddaughter? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Air Pods Pro

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I have a pair and I love them except one thing. They tend to fall out of my 
ears more than the original air pods did. I have messed with the ear tips that 
came with them, but they still just fall out. Anyway, that is my two cents 
worth. Other than that, I love them. The noise canceling is awesome!

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rich,
> 
> David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He liked 
> them a lot.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:23 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I’d love to hear 
>> either pros or cons!
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Trying to make a contribution

[Duane Steele]

Hello Listers,

I'm trying to make a contribution to help my granddaughter on a project. When I 
go to the first page, I'm told there's a picker item from which I must choose 
the amount I wish to give. But all I'm getting is a blank page, and no such 
item. I've tried changing the format options to show the reader view to see if 
this would correct the problem. But it doesn't. Any suggestions for completing 
this transaction and supporting my granddaughter? Thanks.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Air Pods Pro

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Rich,

David Woodbridge did a detailed review of them on his isee podcast. He liked 
them a lot.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 6, 2020, at 9:23 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
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> either pros or cons!
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Air Pods Pro

[richring]

Have any of you had any experience with the Air Pods Pro? I'd love to hear
either pros or cons!

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RE: Touchscreen laptops

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are lots of 15 inch laptops out there which have a numeric pad. I don't 
think you need to spend the extra money to get something with a touch screen 
display, I did about 4 years ago and bought a fairly high-end Asus Zenbook with 
a 4K resolution touch screen display and while I love the laptop I virtually 
never ever use the touch s creen display. It's like Joe said, sometimes when 
Jaws doesn't behave I might try, but it's literally 2 or 3 times a year and if 
I didn't have it I would get by another way.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of deidre 
muccio
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touchscreen laptops

Thank you Joe, this is very useful. I too would  rather keep my hands on a 
keyboard. The only plus about this Dell latitude– I don’t remember the model 
number right off is that it had a full-size keyboard that included numb pad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
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> If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is 
> to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is 
> smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at 
> times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
> I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too 
> far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when 
> it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something 
> correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of 
> the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal thing, 
> but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the keyboard 
> itself to be productive.
> 
> I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or 
>> popular adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you 
>> what you know about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know 
>> is how they work. Do they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some 
>> equivalent of voice over or other accessibility feature to speak what 
>> it is with some equivalent of voice over or other accessibility 
>> feature to speak what it is you’ve touched let’s say to open a 
>> program or app such as word? Or does the touchscreen serve as a 
>> regular monitor as you would have on a PC desktop computer? I don’t 
>> need to use a  computer with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy 
>> cited help by having a laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any 
>> conflict here? The local little computer store where I might buy such 
>> a refurbished unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard 
>> getting through to them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate 
>> question for the list I will just wait till I get through to them. Thanks.
>> 
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Re: HomePod intercom not working

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I spent a long time on the telephone with Apple Accessibility who went away and 
consulted the engineers and then rang me back. And when we added my wife by 
invitation to the HomePod suddenly a new toggle appeared with my name on which 
was off! That toggle had not been there before but suddenly was there and when 
I talk of it on suddenly everything started working. So, mysterious but a happy 
ending!

> On 6 Nov 2020, at 15:12, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Might be time for a call to Apple Accessibility.
> The way I understand this allows you to send a one-way message to another 
> Home Pod, is that correct? I don't think it gives you an open, full two-way 
> connection like the Drop-In feature on Amazon Echo speakers?
> If so I don't think it's a feature I would find very useful just as I always 
> thought the WalkieTalkie feature on the Apple Watch was more of a gimmick.
> I think given today's technology and fast networks you should be able to open 
> an Intercom connection which allows both people on each end to freely speak 
> just as on a speakerphone call except the quality of the connection should be 
> better than a regular call, more like a Facetime Audio call.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:51 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: HomePod intercom not working
> 
> I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
> having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, 
> Siri tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely 
> reset my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple 
> Watch as well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found 
> a fix?
> Harry
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RE: HomePod intercom not working

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Might be time for a call to Apple Accessibility.
The way I understand this allows you to send a one-way message to another Home 
Pod, is that correct? I don't think it gives you an open, full two-way 
connection like the Drop-In feature on Amazon Echo speakers?
If so I don't think it's a feature I would find very useful just as I always 
thought the WalkieTalkie feature on the Apple Watch was more of a gimmick.
I think given today's technology and fast networks you should be able to open 
an Intercom connection which allows both people on each end to freely speak 
just as on a speakerphone call except the quality of the connection should be 
better than a regular call, more like a Facetime Audio call.

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 12:51 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: HomePod intercom not working

I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, Siri 
tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely reset 
my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple Watch as 
well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found a fix?
Harry

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RE: Make video with iPhone6

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the file is too large iOS will automatically suggest that  you sent just a 
link and the recipient can still view the video by clicking on said link.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Make video with iPhone6

Remember that to Email a video it will have to be reasonably short.
For most people, email attachments cannot be more than 5 or 10 MB.
The size will vary based on length and quality.  The higher the quality, the 
larger the file.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper 

Check out my web site at: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann M 
Medlar
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Make video with iPhone6

Thank you Ryan.  I’ll try tomorrow.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Ryan Mann mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Make video with iPhone6

You can use the Camera app to create a video.  At the bottom of the screen is a 
picker where you can select the camera mode.  When you get to that picker, you 
can use the up and down arrow keys on a Bluetooth keyboard or flick up or down 
with one finger until you get to the video mode.  You will e told whether you 
are focused on a person or not.  After that, you can VO left/right arrow until 
you find the record video button.  Then press VO Space on a Bluetooth keyboard 
or double-tap.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Ann M Medlar 
mailto:amedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
I am totally blind.  I have iPhone6 or iPad4+.
Can anyone provide keyboard commands so I can make a Birthday video on either 
device?
How do I know if I am in good focus?
Then I want to email video.
Thanks,
Ann

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Re: 14.2 update question

[Arnold Schmidt]

I have always wondered what it is doing when it takes much longer to prepare 
the update than it took to download it, sometimes longer than it takes to 
install it. This is only my speculation, but I will bet that what it initially 
downloads is an installer, which then goes out to get the actual files to 
install. All that preparing is its gathering together the files to install. 
Again, this is my speculation, I don't really know. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 6, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

It finally finished.

Karen P

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 14.2 update question

I'm trying to update my Iphone, older SE,  It's been stuck on "Preparing
update for a pretty long time.  Probably almost a half hour.  How long
should that take?

Thanks,

Karen P

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RE: 14.2 update question

[Karen Poulakos]

It finally finished.

Karen P

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Subject: 14.2 update question

I'm trying to update my Iphone, older SE,  It's been stuck on "Preparing
update for a pretty long time.  Probably almost a half hour.  How long
should that take?

Thanks,

Karen P

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Re: 14.2 update question

[Richard Turner]

There is no set time, it takes what it takes. It seems to vary widely based on 
internet speeds, and how busy the server is at the time you update.
Mine older SE did not take a half hour, but I've had updates in the past take 
close to an hour and this is a big update.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 6, 2020, at 5:42 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I'm trying to update my Iphone, older SE,  It's been stuck on "Preparing
update for a pretty long time.  Probably almost a half hour.  How long
should that take?

Thanks,

Karen P

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Re: How Do I Select, Copy, and Paste in IOS 14.2

[Richard Turner]

If you are talking about something like the way Jaws does that in Windows, no.
If you adth text selection to the rotor, you can select by chunks from 
characters to words, lines, page, or select all.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:20 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Is there a way to set a starting point and end point for a selection
block anywhere in iOS?

Joe

On 11/5/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
It has not changed.
I prefer using the text selection on the rotor, but nothing with copy,
paste, or select has changed.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
wrote:

Hi, All,

I don't see how to select, copy, and paste text in IOS 14.2.  Do I have to
use the shortcuts app?

Dulce

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Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[Mike B]

Good morning Richard,

Okay, I did find it in the App Library.  Thank you all very much for all 
your help.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones


Hi Mike, it showed up as an App on my phone. Here is the link to it in the 
app store.




https://apps.apple.com/us/app/translate/id1514844618









Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert


  On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Mike B  wrote:


  
  Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.

  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
  Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike B
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM
  Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones


  Where is this feature found please?

  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
  Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
  Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones


  I just tried it with speaking.

  It defaults to from English to Spanish.

  There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button, 
if you have a home button.

  Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick 
twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double 
tap.

  Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in 
English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I 
could get it.

  But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a 
more reasonable speed.

  There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.

  I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the 
button to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other 
language.

  It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used to 
teach oneself some useful phrases I think.







  Richard

  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



  Live long and prosper 



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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ 
& AA MAY
  Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones



  I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure out 
how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the editfield and 
then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing happened. 
Has anyone else tried it out yet?

  Alison





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14.2 update question

[Karen Poulakos]

I'm trying to update my Iphone, older SE,  It's been stuck on "Preparing
update for a pretty long time.  Probably almost a half hour.  How long
should that take?

Thanks,

Karen P

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RE: Touchscreen laptops

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have an HP Envy with a touch screen. My Dell at the office also has a touch 
screen. I got the touch screen on the HP Envy mostly because it was a good 
deal, but also because I wanted the flexibility of being able to use a touch 
screen. I end up using it so little though, that for my next laptop I would not 
be spending extra for a touch screen. That's assuming touch screen technology 
doesn't change a lot over the next few years.

The touch screen on your laptop will work similarly to your iPhone, although if 
you're using a PC with JAWS, NVDA or Narrator, then the gestures will be 
different. Basically you explore by touch, swipe and double tap, just like you 
would on your iPhone. The idea with the clam shell form factor is that you can 
use it as a standard laptop, but you can also swing the screen around and use 
it like a tablet.

Like I said, I don't use my touch screen much, and I mostly forget that I even 
have a touch screen. Like Joe said, I'll use it occasionally when I don't think 
JAWS is telling me everything on the screen. My wife also has a touch screen on 
her Asus laptop, and she doesn't use it much either, but she does find it 
convenient, and she'll occasionally use it to do something on the screen rather 
then reach for the mouse. I've also seen people at the office do this as well.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joe Orozco
> Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 6:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Touchscreen laptops
> 
> Most models come with a non touch version. That could bring down the price. I
> feel the Apple products make for a better touch experience, but that could be
> that I'm just more accustomed to iOS gestures.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> > Thank you Joe, this is very useful. I too would  rather keep my hands
> > on a keyboard. The only plus about this Dell latitude– I don’t
> > remember the model number right off is that it had a full-size
> > keyboard that included numb pad.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> >>
> >> If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is
> >> to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is
> >> smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at
> >> times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
> >> I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too
> >> far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when
> >> it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something
> >> correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of
> >> the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal
> >> thing, but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the
> >> keyboard itself to be productive.
> >>
> >> I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or
> >>> popular adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you
> >>> what you know about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know
> >>> is how they work.
> >>> Do
> >>> they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice
> >>> over or other accessibility feature to speak what it is with some
> >>> equivalent of voice over or other accessibility feature to speak
> >>> what it is you’ve touched let’s say to open a program or app such as
> >>> word? Or does the touchscreen serve as a regular monitor as you
> >>> would have on a PC desktop computer? I don’t need to use a  computer
> >>> with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy cited help by having a
> >>> laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any conflict here? The
> >>> local little computer store where I might buy such a refurbished
> >>> unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard getting
> >>> through to them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate
> >>> question for the list I will just wait till I get through to them.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Touchscreen laptops

[Joe Orozco]

Most models come with a non touch version. That could bring down the
price. I feel the Apple products make for a better touch experience,
but that could be that I'm just more accustomed to iOS gestures.

Joe


On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> Thank you Joe, this is very useful. I too would  rather keep my hands on a
> keyboard. The only plus about this Dell latitude– I don’t remember the model
> number right off is that it had a full-size keyboard that included numb
> pad.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>>
>> If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is
>> to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is
>> smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at
>> times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
>> I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too
>> far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when
>> it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something
>> correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of
>> the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal thing,
>> but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the keyboard
>> itself to be productive.
>>
>> I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or
>>> popular
>>> adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you what you know
>>> about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know is how they work.
>>> Do
>>> they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice over
>>> or
>>> other accessibility feature to speak what it is with some equivalent of
>>> voice over or other accessibility feature to speak what it is you’ve
>>> touched
>>> let’s say to open a program or app such as word? Or does the touchscreen
>>> serve as a regular monitor as you would have on a PC desktop computer? I
>>> don’t need to use a  computer with a touchscreen, and I want to have
>>> easy
>>> cited help by having a laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any
>>> conflict
>>> here? The local little computer store where I might buy such a
>>> refurbished
>>> unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard getting through
>>> to
>>> them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate question for the
>>> list
>>> I will just wait till I get through to them. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: HP air laser jet printer

[Joe Orozco]

If you look around Amazon, people have found hacks to trick the
printer into bypassing the message you are out of toner. Look under
the user reviews for some of the HP models. It's a common problem. The
workarounds might require a little sighted assistance if you can't
make out the lights on the printer. It's horrible that manufacturers
find creative ways to squeeze people out of money.

Joe


On 11/5/20, br...@hostany.net  wrote:
> I think I found that is probably true, the hard way. The HP all in one I
> have likes to, when hooked to the computer, complain about ink expiring,
> etc, when I'd use Kurzweil to scan once in a while. If scanning is all I
> want to do, it shouldn't care how old the ink is.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.
> Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 12:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: HP air laser jet printer
>
> Hello Kitty,
>
> I cannot be absolutely certain but I am relatively confident that the
> printer in question is not a duplex model.
>
> Funny thing, I have a duplex laser printer in my office and, aside from
> testing the feature, I don't think I've ever elected to use it.
>
> Also, the printer in question is just that, a printer.  I am not a fan of
> models that combine a printer with other tech such as a scanner.
>
> In my office I have printers, Scanners, and faxes, and all of them are stand
> alone units.  I prefer individually functioning units because they are less
> likely to require the use of a touch pad or an LCD display.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of kitty hevener
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 5:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: HP air laser jet printer
>
> Does it print on both sides of the paper?  Can u make copies of documents?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: HP air laser jet printer
>
> Hi, would you mind resending the model number?--Joe
>
> On 11/4/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I wanted to say that  the email that Richard forwarded about a laser
>> printer originally recommended by Mark lead to my purchasing one. It
>> has the smallest footprint of any LaserJet printer out there I do
>> believe and that was something I was looking for. And it only prints
>> in black which was also all I was looking for. The first one got
>> returned because the rollers would not grab the paper, And  according
>> to the HB tech that was somewhere overseas over a bad connection
>> determined after fussing with it for about an hour that the sensor
>> must’ve been broken. That printer got returned. Setting up the second
>> one that was sent as a replacement work just fine. The HP website however
>> is a pain as Is gettingis getting through to a live person.
>> You have to have a case, and some of the questions don’t address
>> what’s actually going on with the printer. They may mention all kinds
>> of different colored lights except the one on your printer that just
>> so happens to be flashing. I had cited help with this. At any rate
>> also after I was getting messages saying they said it was complete on
>> both the iPhone and my PC it then said it could not locate printer and
>> all these sorts of things. So double messaging. The latter being
>> totally in accurate. When attempting to print anyway it printed just
>> fine. So now I have a nice little $108 printer here that works and it’s
>> really all I needed.
>> Thank you Richard and Mark for the recommendations.
>>
>> Deirdre
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Re: Touchscreen laptops

[deidre muccio]

Thank you Joe, this is very useful. I too would  rather keep my hands on a 
keyboard. The only plus about this Dell latitude– I don’t remember the model 
number right off is that it had a full-size keyboard that included numb pad.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:32 AM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is
> to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is
> smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at
> times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
> I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too
> far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when
> it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something
> correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of
> the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal thing,
> but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the keyboard
> itself to be productive.
> 
> I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
>> On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or popular
>> adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you what you know
>> about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know is how they work. Do
>> they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice over or
>> other accessibility feature to speak what it is with some equivalent of
>> voice over or other accessibility feature to speak what it is you’ve touched
>> let’s say to open a program or app such as word? Or does the touchscreen
>> serve as a regular monitor as you would have on a PC desktop computer? I
>> don’t need to use a  computer with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy
>> cited help by having a laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any conflict
>> here? The local little computer store where I might buy such a refurbished
>> unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard getting through to
>> them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate question for the list
>> I will just wait till I get through to them. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Touchscreen laptops

[Joe Orozco]

If you use something like an iPad in a laptop configuration, that is
to say in a clamshell keyboard case, I feel the experience is
smoother. Yes, there's the whole business with the split screen at
times, but it's a familiar layout if you are already using an iPhone.
I have a touch screen on one of my PC laptops, and without going too
far astray into Windows land, I have only really found it useful when
it comes to figuring out where JAWS is not reading something
correctly. Swiping around makes it a little easier to get a sense of
the screen layout. Otherwise, and this could just be a personal thing,
but I find myself wanting to keep my hands centered on the keyboard
itself to be productive.

I hope that's the start to more helpful feedback from others.

Joe


On 11/6/20, deidre muccio  wrote:
> Hello all,
> I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or popular
> adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you what you know
> about touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know is how they work. Do
> they work like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice over or
> other accessibility feature to speak what it is with some equivalent of
> voice over or other accessibility feature to speak what it is you’ve touched
> let’s say to open a program or app such as word? Or does the touchscreen
> serve as a regular monitor as you would have on a PC desktop computer? I
> don’t need to use a  computer with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy
> cited help by having a laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any conflict
> here? The local little computer store where I might buy such a refurbished
> unit is not open to full capacity so it’s a little hard getting through to
> them sometimes. If you think this is an inappropriate question for the list
> I will just wait till I get through to them. Thanks.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[deidre muccio]

I don’t understand what’s new about this other than it appears to be an app now 
available on the phone. I use Siri and I simply ask something like how do you 
say such and such in Spanish and I get an immediate answer and I can also go up 
a liner down a line and remind myself what I’ve asked and what the wording is 
and then I can arrow down and see the spelling and spell it out however I 
please. So what is this big new feature?   it sounds a bit more cumbersome to 
use. It probably would be useful if you wanted to save all the stuff that you 
had searched for which you can’t do when you use Siri because as soon as you 
ask the next query it will only save just so much. Such as messages you might 
get a string of messages that you’ve asked Siri to send but that’s only going 
to go so far. And as soon as you leave the homepage and that screen there’s 
nothing left to go back to to check. Or double check in this case.


Deirdre


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> 
> It's called translate, and it's found between the apps news and maps.
> 
> 
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1i...@gmail.com
> 
> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
> --Edmund Burke
> 
>> On 11/5/2020 9:48 PM, Mike B wrote:
>> Where is this feature found please?
>> 
>> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
>> program.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> I just tried it with speaking.
>> 
>> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>> 
>> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button,
>> if you have a home button.
>> 
>> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick
>> twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double
>> tap.
>> 
>> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in English,
>> but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could get
>> it.
>> 
>> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a
>> more reasonable speed.
>> 
>> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>> 
>> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the button
>> to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.
>> 
>> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used to
>> teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Live long and prosper 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ &
>> AA MAY
>> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure out
>> how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the editfield and
>> then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing happened.
>> Has anyone else tried it out yet?
>> 
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Touchscreen laptops

[deidre muccio]

Hello all,
I don’t have access to a lot of exposure to the latest and best  or popular 
adaptive technology equipment, so here I am asking of you what you know about 
touchscreen laptops? I guess all I need to know is how they work. Do they work 
like the face of an iPhoneWith some equivalent of voice over or other 
accessibility feature to speak what it is with some equivalent of voice over or 
other accessibility feature to speak what it is you’ve touched let’s say to 
open a program or app such as word? Or does the touchscreen serve as a regular 
monitor as you would have on a PC desktop computer? I don’t need to use a  
computer with a touchscreen, and I want to have easy cited help by having a 
laptop that includes a monitor. Is there any conflict here? The local little 
computer store where I might buy such a refurbished unit is not open to full 
capacity so it’s a little hard getting through to them sometimes. If you think 
this is an inappropriate question for the list I will just wait till I get 
through to them. Thanks.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: How Do I Select, Copy, and Paste in IOS 14.2

[Joe Orozco]

Is there a way to set a starting point and end point for a selection
block anywhere in iOS?

Joe

On 11/5/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> It has not changed.
> I prefer using the text selection on the rotor, but nothing with copy,
> paste, or select has changed.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
>
> I don't see how to select, copy, and paste text in IOS 14.2.  Do I have to
> use the shortcuts app?
>
> Dulce
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RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

[CJ & AA MAY]

I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is 
neither written nor spoken.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you flick 
right twice to finish and double tap?

You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G mailto:bethm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio translation. 
It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well as put it in 
text. Is that right?

Thank you,

Beth

Sent from my iPhone




On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell mailto:lucky1i...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Did you update to 14.2?

 

 

Maria Campbell

lucky1i...@gmail.com  

 

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

--Edmund Burke

 

On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:

Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government

program.

 

- Original Message -

From: Mike B

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM

Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

 

Where is this feature found please?

 

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!

Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government

program.

 

- Original Message -

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

 

I just tried it with speaking.

 

It defaults to from English to Spanish.

 

There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button,

if you have a home button.

 

Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick

twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double

tap.

 

Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in English,

but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could get

it.

 

But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a

more reasonable speed.

 

There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.

 

I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the button

to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.

 

It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used to

teach oneself some useful phrases I think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass

himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient

hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not

granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward

Herbert

 

 

 

Live long and prosper 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ &

AA MAY

Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones

 

 

 

I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure out

how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the editfield and

then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing happened.

Has anyone else tried it out yet?

 

Alison

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Thanks, this helped. I thought I’d tapped on that unlabeled search field at the 
top of the screen before, but I don’t think I realized the keyboard had popped 
up. With your tip, I was able to persist and sort it out. Now I need to figure 
out how to report this to Amazon.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

 

I just looked and I have the same tabs as you do. I did find how to search, but 
it is not obvious.

 

1, Go to Find tab.

2, Go to the very top of the screen. You should hear, actions available, 
Possible Text, Q Actor, title, or genre. This is your search field.

3, double tap to activate the search field. You should hear, search field is 
editing.

4, Type what you are looking for and double tap the search button on the right 
side of the space bar of the keyboard.

5, To exit the search field, if you swipe one time to the right from the edit 
field, you will find a back button. Double tap the button to cancel the search.

 

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

Chris

 





On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
type something into a search field.

 

--

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert






On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Maria

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Re: whatsapp failing to open after installing

[derick murila]

Did that already

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 1:37 PM PRAMIT BHARGAVA 
wrote:

> Hi Derek,
>
> You can always try to remove the one that you have just installed and then
> reinstall it. Or you can even try turning off the internet and then
> reconnect to it.
> Hope this resolves the issue.
>
> Regards,
> Pramit
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:04 AM derick murila 
> wrote:
>
>> After installing whatsapp it open and tells me i need strong internet
>> connection  yet i have
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2020 8:23 AM, "Beth G"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio
>> translation. It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well
>> as put it in text. Is that right?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Beth
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Did you update to 14.2?
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Maria Campbell
>> > lucky1i...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
>> nothing.
>> > --Edmund Burke
>> >
>> >> On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:
>> >> Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.
>> >>
>> >> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> >> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
>> >> program.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: Mike B
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Where is this feature found please?
>> >>
>> >> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
>> >> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
>> >> program.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: Richard Turner
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
>> >> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I just tried it with speaking.
>> >>
>> >> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
>> >>
>> >> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home
>> button,
>> >> if you have a home button.
>> >>
>> >> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick
>> >> twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and
>> double
>> >> tap.
>> >>
>> >> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in
>> English,
>> >> but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I
>> could get
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish
>> at a
>> >> more reasonable speed.
>> >>
>> >> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
>> >>
>> >> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the
>> button
>> >> to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.
>> >>
>> >> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used
>> to
>> >> teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Richard
>> >>
>> >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>> pass
>> >> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> >> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> >> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward
>> >> Herbert
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Live long and prosper 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of CJ &
>> >> AA MAY
>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure
>> out
>> >> how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the
>> editfield and
>> >> then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing
>> happened.
>> >> Has anyone else tried it out yet?
>> >>
>> >> Alison
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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Re: whatsapp failing to open after installing

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Derek,

You can always try to remove the one that you have just installed and then
reinstall it. Or you can even try turning off the internet and then
reconnect to it.
Hope this resolves the issue.

Regards,
Pramit

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:04 AM derick murila 
wrote:

> After installing whatsapp it open and tells me i need strong internet
> connection  yet i have
>
> On Nov 6, 2020 8:23 AM, "Beth G"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio
> translation. It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well
> as put it in text. Is that right?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Beth
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:
> >
> > Did you update to 14.2?
>
> >
> >
> > Maria Campbell
> > lucky1i...@gmail.com
> >
> > All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do
> nothing.
> > --Edmund Burke
> >
> >> On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote:
> >> Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari.
> >>
> >> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
> >> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
> >> program.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Mike B
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM
> >> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones
> >>
> >>
> >> Where is this feature found please?
> >>
> >> Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
> >> Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government
> >> program.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Richard Turner
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM
> >> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
> >>
> >>
> >> I just tried it with speaking.
> >>
> >> It defaults to from English to Spanish.
> >>
> >> There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home
> button,
> >> if you have a home button.
> >>
> >> Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick
> >> twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and
> double
> >> tap.
> >>
> >> Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in
> English,
> >> but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could
> get
> >> it.
> >>
> >> But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish
> at a
> >> more reasonable speed.
> >>
> >> There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all.
> >>
> >> I have not tried typing, but I suspect if you type, there is also the
> button
> >> to translate, then you may hear or be able to read the other language.
> >>
> >> It does also show the text of the Spanish, so it could kind of be used
> to
> >> teach oneself some useful phrases I think.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> >> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> >> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> >> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
> Edward
> >> Herbert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Live long and prosper 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CJ &
> >> AA MAY
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 10:40 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I Took a quick look at this new feature yesterday but couldn’t figure
> out
> >> how to use it. I assume I would type the word or phrase in the
> editfield and
> >> then it would either speak or show the translation, but nothing
> happened.
> >> Has anyone else tried it out yet?
> >>
> >> Alison
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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HomePod intercom not working

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I’ve just updated my iPhone SE 2020 and my HomePod to iOS 14.2 and despite 
having enabled the intercom feature every time I ask Siri to activate it, Siri 
tells me I have to turn on the feature on my HomePod. I have completely reset 
my HomePod but the problem is still the same. I have updated my Apple Watch as 
well and tried it from there and it does not work. Has anybody found a fix?
Harry

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