date:20201118

RE: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Les Kriegler

Hi Mike,

I just started getting the same message within the past week. It made reference 
to changing router settings, so I will call my provider which happens to be 
Optimum about this. Good luck

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:02 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Weak Security Being Reported

 

Hi All,

 

My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This morning 
both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak security, 
message although both could be connected to either network.

 

They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak security, 
message means?  We've never received such a message at either house and we're 
not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password weakness problem or what. 
 All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

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orbit writer problem

2020-11-18 Thread Dennis Long

Hi, I'm posting on behalf of a friend.  Any help is appreciated.

Hi, I have an Orbit writer. I try to connect it to an iPhone SE 2020 and
iPhone 7 it shows up as a connectable device under braille displays it acts
like

it will connect than instantly disconnects. It connected previously under
iOS 14.01. The Orbit writer is running the latest firmware as far as I know.

Can anyone please help? How do I fix this? What am I not doing right? All
help and suggestions are truly appreciated.

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread kitty hevener

Am totally blind too.  Just don’t like auditory clutter lolol!!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Kitty,

Sorry I’m totally blind and although I hear it, I just ignore it,

I guess if it’s something a VI person can see then I would assume it could get 
annoying 

I guess this is where we all differ in how we treat things.

Cheers,

Simon F

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken 

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain   
 wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--

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Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Viola Bentson

To all, I'm not one to say me too, I don't like such messages, but this is 
pretty annoying. I'm totally blind too, but I don't want to hear this. I have 
to listen to enough stuff.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well.  I am not sure if I heard those things 
before 14.2.  One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that 
will hear a musical alarm.  I did not set any alarm.  It seems to go off 
randomly.  Have u heard that?  I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is 
possessed lolol!!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it.
I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an 
iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm 
listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to 
me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would 
get annoying though.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for 
> the older phones.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to 
> it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else 
> running 14.2
> on an older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have
> experienced these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have 
> the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the 
> image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting 
> to know just what it is.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the 
> recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
>
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so 
> I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think 
> that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I 
> shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said 
> that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning 
> on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but 
> turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is 
> going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to 
> duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
> on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are 
> experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more complaints 
> they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out 
> Settings
> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is 
> attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be 
> its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, 
> sunglasses, and baseball hat.
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, 
> speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 
> 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 
> phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple 
> Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody 
> answered. I will keep trying.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread kitty hevener

Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well.  I am not sure if I heard those things 
before 14.2.  One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that 
will hear a musical alarm.  I did not set any alarm.  It seems to go off 
randomly.  Have u heard that?  I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is 
possessed lolol!!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it.
I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an 
iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm 
listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to 
me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would 
get annoying though.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for 
> the older phones.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to 
> it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else 
> running 14.2
> on an older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have
> experienced these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have 
> the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the 
> image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting 
> to know just what it is.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the 
> recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
>
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so 
> I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think 
> that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I 
> shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said 
> that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning 
> on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but 
> turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is 
> going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to 
> duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
> on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are 
> experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more complaints 
> they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out 
> Settings
> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is 
> attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be 
> its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, 
> sunglasses, and baseball hat.
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, 
> speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 
> 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 
> phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple 
> Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody 
> answered. I will keep trying.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
>
>
>
> Viola
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Reg Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
> To:

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread kitty hevener

Yes, but I get the messages even though weathergods is not active.  Good 
thinking, though.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Do you have the app Weather Gods?

Andy

- Original Message - 

From: kitty hevener   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:00 PM

Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain   
 wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To:

Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Diane Giannetti

Sorry about the mistake I made I said if you have describe image in your 
brother it should have been rotor. LOL. That’s what I get for not checking it 
over first. LOL.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> Brother,

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Hi Kitty,

Sorry I’m totally blind and although I hear it, I just ignore it,

I guess if it’s something a VI person can see then I would assume it could get 
annoying

I guess this is where we all differ in how we treat things.

Cheers,

Simon F



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky


HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin


On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky


Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread kitty hevener

I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken 

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain   
 wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken

But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an 
issue to talk about?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.

RE: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Hi Mike,
What I mean is
Is your router using WPA2 or something earlier WPA / WEP encryption for your 
wifi security,

Also if using wpa2 is it tkip  or ase  because these things can report lesser 
secure systems.

My recommendation would be that the system needs to be using WPA2 ASE or better
Not that better is probably available to you at this point

Good lcuk.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 1:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported

Hi Simon,

Yes we only use secure networks, password is necessary to log-in, and we never 
log into other available networks that are showing.
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Weak Security Being Reported

Hi Mike,

Do you know what security type the router / your phones have been set to 
connect with?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:43 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported

Hi Richard,

Thanks for this and since the modem and router belong to Spectrum I'll call 
them and tell them about this problem.  Hopefully they'll either update the 
firmware or update the equipment.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported

Mike,You may find this article helpful about checking your router settings 
after finding a weak security message.''https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202068




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This morning 
both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak security, 
message although both could be connected to either network.

They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak security, 
message means?  We've never received such a message at either house and we're 
not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password weakness problem or what. 
 All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
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RE: Voicemail

2020-11-18 Thread Doug Sloan

Thanks Judy, how do you know to ask Siri if you don’t get any notification?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Judy Holloway
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:24 PM
To: Doug Sloan 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voicemail

I've always had problems hearing the voicemail. I solved the problem was having 
Siri play the voicemail.

Thanks.

Judy

On Nov 18, 2020 9:40 PM, Doug Sloan mailto:sloan...@bigpond.com> > wrote:

All

Is anyone having problems with voicemail since 14.2? before updating to 14.2 
when I received a voicemail message I got a message that said call 101 you have 
one new voicemail message now I’m not receiving anything any ideas? I’m using 
an iphone 8 with VO

Cheers

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RE: pillow speaker

2020-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

The one I have does not have earbuds, it is a double-layer fleecy headband with 
very low-profile speakers inside by both ears and a small square control pod on 
the forehead with 3 buttons for Play/Pause and volume up/down as well as 
forward and rewind.

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Doc Wright
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I saw one of those but when it mentioned ear buds I kept on going,.
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Subject: RE: pillow speaker

I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.

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Doc Wright
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I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33
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Subject: RE: pillow speaker

The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…

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has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?
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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Diane Giannetti

If you have described images in your 
Brother, whatever app you are in if you don’t want hear the description, just 
swipe up or down to where it says off and that should work.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 9:00 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and 
> tonight, it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested 
> earlier in thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, 
> or god knows what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to 
> pinpoint any patterns yet. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
> Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> HI,
> 
> I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
> encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation 
> or touch.
> 
> Robin
> 
>  
> 
> On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
> It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
> Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
> encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
> makes a difference. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> 
> For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described 
> when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a 
> work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the 
> issue.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
> Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> Hi Deb and all,
> 
> I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
> extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
> best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware 
> of this people can also email them at:
> 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.
> 
> I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned 
> on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on 
> an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it 
> doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone.
> 
> I do hope it gets fixed soon.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
>  
> 
> On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
> probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
> might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the 
> screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was 
> trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave 
> a better description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't 
> turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that 
> he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get 
> back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are 
> experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more complaints 
> they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> 
> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>  
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
> describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
> told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak 
> screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 
> 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried 
> twice today to get in touch with Apple

Re: Voicemail

2020-11-18 Thread Judy Holloway

I've always had problems hearing the voicemail. I solved the problem was having Siri play the voicemail.
Thanks.
Judy

On Nov 18, 2020 9:40 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:All Is anyone having problems with voicemail since 14.2? before updating to 14.2 when I received a voicemail message I got a message that said call 101 you have one new voicemail message now I’m not receiving anything any ideas? I’m using an iphone 8 with VO CheersDoug 19-11-2020 



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Voicemail

2020-11-18 Thread Doug Sloan

All

 

Is anyone having problems with voicemail since 14.2? before updating to 14.2
when I received a voicemail message I got a message that said call 101 you
have one new voicemail message now I'm not receiving anything any ideas? I'm
using an iphone 8 with VO

 

Cheers

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Re: Contact's number instead of name in Messages

2020-11-18 Thread Tali Sarnetzky

Thank you Dave.
It did help with one number, but not witht he other... Quite weird.

On 11/19/20, Dave Clement  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This usually happens when the person sending the message is not already in
> the receiver's contact list or the sender is using a phone number that is
> not listed in the receiver's contact entry for that person.
>
> If this is the case, create a contact entry for the sender with the shown
> phone number or edit the existing one to reflect the new phone number and
> then, the message should show up with the name instead of the number.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> .
>
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Tali Sarnetzky 
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> I have a friend who uses an iPhone SE 2020 and for some reason,
> certain contacts come through as phone numbers rather than names when
> he receives an iMessage from them.
> I tried to think of a solution but can't find any.
> Is it a bug or is there a way to fix it?
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Tali
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Re: pillow speaker

2020-11-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright

I saw one of those but when it mentioned ear buds I kept on going,.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:01 AM
  Subject: RE: pillow speaker

  I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: pillow speaker

  I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33

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From: R Van Lant 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:55 AM

Subject: RE: pillow speaker

The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…

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has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?

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Re: Face ID

2020-11-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright

thanks. I spoke with Apple accessibility and that is what she had me do. She 
did warn me that it may appear again at the next update.
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Face ID

  Hi Robert,

  Somewhere on that screen you should see a button that says not now, or later 
in settings or something to that effect. But double tapping on the button you 
can skip past the requirement.

  Sent from my iPhone

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What I am trying to get rid of is the request to finish setting up iPhone. 
the last thing it wants me to do is set up Face ID and i have no interest in 
using it.
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: Face ID

1.. Go the Settings app on your iPhone. 
2.. Scroll down and tap on “Face ID & Passcode” 
3.. You'll now be asked to enter your password. Do so. 
4.. Now, toggle off the first option that says “iPhone Unlock” 
5.. That's it. Face ID is now disabled.

  No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a 
significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

On 17 Nov 2020, at 2:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
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How do I get my iPhone to stop bugging me about turning it on?

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RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Shirley Baker

I don't know but I get the tone on both my watch and phone. I have sounds on 
both my watch and phone turned on.   

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Yeah you still get the message on the phone or phones but the tone goes to the 
primary message receiving device which becomes the watch 

And if you have more than one phone, the watch is only connected to one of the 
phones and the other will get the tone still 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 8:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Hi,

I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch, then 
I get them on the phone.

IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I prefer 
it that way.

Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.

If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have 
been OK.

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch and 
my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text with, 
no more message sound.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.

Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?

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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Andy Baracco

Do you have the app Weather Gods?

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:00 PM
  Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

  I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and 
tonight, it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested 
earlier in thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or 
god knows what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to 
pinpoint any patterns yet.  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

  HI,

  I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

  Robin

  On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described 
when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

--

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Chaltain at Gmail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have 
been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling 
works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them 
aware of this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned 
on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

  Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the 
recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

  Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

  I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that 
it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the 
screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was 
trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a 
better description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn 
it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

  Arnold Schmidt 

  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

  On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:

  Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out 
Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

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  Chaltain at Gmail

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

  I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting 
to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried

Re: Contact's number instead of name in Messages

2020-11-18 Thread Dave Clement

Hello, 

This usually happens when the person sending the message is not already in the 
receiver's contact list or the sender is using a phone number that is not 
listed in the receiver's contact entry for that person. 

If this is the case, create a contact entry for the sender with the shown phone 
number or edit the existing one to reflect the new phone number and then, the 
message should show up with the name instead of the number. 

Hope this helps,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB
. 

On Nov 18, 2020, at 8:38 PM, Tali Sarnetzky  wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have a friend who uses an iPhone SE 2020 and for some reason,
certain contacts come through as phone numbers rather than names when
he receives an iMessage from them.
I tried to think of a solution but can't find any.
Is it a bug or is there a way to fix it?
I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
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Contact's number instead of name in Messages

2020-11-18 Thread Tali Sarnetzky

Hi everyone.

I have a friend who uses an iPhone SE 2020 and for some reason,
certain contacts come through as phone numbers rather than names when
he receives an iMessage from them.
I tried to think of a solution but can't find any.
Is it a bug or is there a way to fix it?
I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread kitty hevener

I am having the same problem.  Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, 
it said water.  I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in 
thread.  It did not make a difference.  It seems like sky, water, or god knows 
what else will come along, just  pop up.  Have not been able to pinpoint any 
patterns yet.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

HI,

I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I 
encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or 
touch.

Robin

 

On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference.  

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain   
 wrote:

 

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

--

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody

Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Robin Frost


  
Hi,
I'm wondering if this would still be the cause if one has a
  cellular capable watch as I do? I do notice the battery drain as
  well or so it seems one never knows whether it's perception or
  reality. Perhaps I'll power down the watch for a day and see if
  it's any lesser in that case.
Take good care.
Robin


On 11/18/2020 3:13 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Thanks Mary,
I removed the weather complication so we
  shall see.
Later,
 

   
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has this to say on the subject of flying.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:34 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery
  

 

  Hi richard,


  Yes, I have noticed that my phone battery
drops more now. I believe I have fixed it by getting rid of
the weather complication which I had on my watch face. When
that was on my watch face, location tracking on was
constantly on my iPhone. I got rid of the Weather app from
the watch face, and no more location tracking  on and my
battery life is better.


   
  
Sent from my iPhone
  
  

  
  

  On Nov
18, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

  
  

   
  Since I received my Apple watch on
  Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is losing
  charge more quickly.
   
  Have others noticed this?
   
  I’m getting 20 to 22 hours out of
  the watch’s battery though, which is very good.
   
   
   
  Richard
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Robin Frost


  
Hi,
I like you Richard prefer notifications on my phone because they
  have more varied sounds which is why I turned off all the
  notifications I could on the watch outside of health related
  things as I'm rarely without my phone nearby and find them much
  easier to identify and manage via the phone. Glad it isn't just me
  who felt this way. But I recognize others may not.  I wish the
  watch could have more differing sounds as the phones can. Can't
  imagine why it couldn't do so.
Take good care.
Robin


On 11/18/2020 2:50 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi,
I just figured out that if I turn off
  message notifications on the watch, then I get them on the
  phone.
IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be
  anywhere without the phone, I prefer it that way.
Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t
  catching my attention.
If the watch played a sound rather than
  just the vibration, that might have been OK.
 
 

   
  Richard
  "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
has this to say on the subject of flying.
  There is an art, it says, or rather, a
knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the
  Apple watch
  

 
Yes, I am not
  getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m
  getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired,
  and which does not have a Sim card, although it is on the same
  Wi-Fi network as the watch and my phone that has a Sim card.
  But my real phone, the one I actually text with, no more
  message sound.

  Sent from my iPhone


  


  
On Nov 18,
  2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner 
  wrote:
  


  
 
Since I got my watch, when I receive
a text message, I get a vibration on the watch, but
absolutely nothing out of my phone.
Email sounds, ringtone, both work on
the phone, anyone else finding that the message alerts
go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any
solution?
 
 
 
Richard
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  has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a
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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Robin Frost


  
HI,
I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my
  phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with
  the method of navigation or touch.
Robin


On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt
  wrote:


  
  It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring
  by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by
  touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch,
  so I don't think it really makes a difference. 
  
  
  Arnold Schmidt 
  

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

  On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain
   wrote:
  


  
  
  
For those of you having the problem, do
  you still hear the image described when exploring by touch
  or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work
  around for the issue and may give Apple support another
  clue to the issue.
 

  --
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  Chaltain at Gmail

 

  
From:
  viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Robin
  Frost
  Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
  

 
Hi Deb and all,
I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple
  Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while
  it's been my experience that calling works best I did also
  want to point out that in the interest of making them
  aware of this people can also email them at:
accessibil...@apple.com
as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a
  feasible option.
I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen
  recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image
  recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an
  iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it
  doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone.
I do hope it gets fixed soon.
Take good care.
Robin
 

  On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis
wrote:


  Yeah that makes sense except that my
phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because
it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 
  Every time I call I’m holding 90
minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just
live with this, but it is truly annoying.
   
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

  
   
  I just talked to somebody at Apple
Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some
kind of problem with image description. When I shared
the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing,
he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image
that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a
better description of the image, but turning it off,  as
it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to
talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to
duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly
get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that
the others who are experiencing this should report it to
them, being that  the more complaints they have about a
given issue might make it seem more important.
  
 
  
  
Arnold Schmidt 
  
  
 

  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E
20


  
On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain

wrote:


  
  Isn’t this the new image
recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings
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Re: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Mike B

Hi Simon,

Yes we only use secure networks, password is necessary to log-in, and we 
never log into other available networks that are showing.
Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Weak Security Being Reported


Hi Mike,



Do you know what security type the router / your phones have been set to 
connect with?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:43 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported



Hi Richard,



Thanks for this and since the modem and router belong to Spectrum I'll call 
them and tell them about this problem.  Hopefully they'll either update the 
firmware or update the equipment.


Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government 
program.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported



Mike,You may find this article helpful about checking your router settings 
after finding a weak security 
message.''https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202068









Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert





  On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Mike B  wrote:

  

  Hi All,



  My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This 
morning both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak 
security, message although both could be connected to either network.



  They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak 
security, message means?  We've never received such a message at either 
house and we're not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password 
weakness problem or what.  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.


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RE: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Hi Mike,

Do you know what security type the router / your phones have been set to 
connect with?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:43 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported

Hi Richard,

Thanks for this and since the modem and router belong to Spectrum I'll call 
them and tell them about this problem.  Hopefully they'll either update the 
firmware or update the equipment.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Main's Law:  For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported

Mike,You may find this article helpful about checking your router settings 
after finding a weak security message.''https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202068

Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Mike B 
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Hi All,

My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This morning 
both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak security, 
message although both could be connected to either network.

They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak security, 
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not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password weakness problem or what. 
 All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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Re: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Mike B

Hi Richard,

Thanks for this and since the modem and router belong to Spectrum I'll call 
them and tell them about this problem.  Hopefully they'll either update the 
firmware or update the equipment.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: Weak Security Being Reported


Mike,You may find this article helpful about checking your router settings 
after finding a weak security 
message.''https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202068









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Herbert


  On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Mike B  wrote:


  
  Hi All,

  My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This 
morning both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak 
security, message although both could be connected to either network.

  They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak 
security, message means?  We've never received such a message at either 
house and we're not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password 
weakness problem or what.  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

  Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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program.


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RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yeah you still get the message on the phone or phones but the tone goes to the 
primary message receiving device which becomes the watch

And if you have more than one phone, the watch is only connected to one of the 
phones and the other will get the tone still

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 8:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Hi,
I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch, then 
I get them on the phone.
IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I prefer 
it that way.
Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.
If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have 
been OK.

Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch and 
my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text with, 
no more message sound.
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?

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Re: Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Richard Turner

Mike,You may find this article helpful about checking your router settings 
after finding a weak security message.''https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT202068





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:02 PM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi All,

My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This morning 
both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak security, 
message although both could be connected to either network.

They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak security, 
message means?  We've never received such a message at either house and we're 
not sure if this is a Wifi security issue, a password weakness problem or what. 
 All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

Take care and stay safe.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yes this is the way it works
messages

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 8:27 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?

Richard
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RE: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

I can get 2 days and a few hours more

But I don’t see it affecting my phone battery.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 8:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

Since I received my Apple watch on Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is 
losing charge more quickly.

Have others noticed this?

I’m getting 20 to 22 hours out of the watch’s battery though, which is very 
good.

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RE: pillow speaker

2020-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Just wondering

These pillow speakers,

Is the audio that comes from it known as “Pillow Talk”?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pillow speaker

Hi interested in one of these.  Which one do you like?

On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:39 PM
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Subject: Re: pillow speaker

I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33
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Subject: RE: pillow speaker

The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
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Subject: pillow speaker

has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?
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Weak Security Being Reported

2020-11-18 Thread Mike B

Hi All,

My wife and I both run the new SE 2020 iPhones with iOS 14.2.  This morning 
both our WiFi networks, 2 & 5G, on both phones were getting a, weak 
security, message although both could be connected to either network.

They both were showing 3 bars so, can someone tell us what a, weak security, 
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or what.  All input is greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.

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Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten

I’m talking about transferring a podcast or music from the phone to the homePod 
or the other way around. Bluetooth Hass to be on. The phone also Hass to remain 
on. It’s not like Chromecast where, once you send it over to the other device, 
you can do whatever you want with your phone, including shutting it off. You 
can lock the screen, which helps, and you can do other activities. But you 
can’t turn the phone completely off. Maybe that depends on what service you 
hand it off, I don’t know. But that has been my experience.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Although I don't yet have a Homepod, is this the feature where you hold the 
> phone about an inch or so away from the Homepod, or are you actually talking 
> about finishing a task on one device from another, such as an email? The 
> music transfer feature should work already, and Voiceover should stay on the 
> phone. That's what I'm hoping for when I get my Homepod, probably later this 
> year.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Subject says it all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
>> she keeps the firmware up to date.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Wayne Merritt

I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it.
I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I
have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since
it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does
not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever
I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the
> older phones.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If
> you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2
> on an older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have
> experienced these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have the
> image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image
> feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just
> what it is.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition
> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
>
> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll
> probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it
> might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the
> screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was
> trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition
> gave a better description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were,
> didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it,
> being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will
> allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others
> who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that  the more
> complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings
> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to
> describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has
> told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak
> screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running
> 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried
> twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods
> both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying.
>
>
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
>
>
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson   > wrote:
>
> 
>
> I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
>
>
>
> Viola
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Reg Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
>
> “night sky”
>
>
>
> Anyone out there know what it represents?
>
>
>
> Regards…..Reg
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>
>
>
> Hello Listers,
>
>

Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Matthew Bullis

Although I don't yet have a Homepod, is this the feature where you hold the 
phone about an inch or so away from the Homepod, or are you actually talking 
about finishing a task on one device from another, such as an email? The music 
transfer feature should work already, and Voiceover should stay on the phone. 
That's what I'm hoping for when I get my Homepod, probably later this year.
Matthew

On Nov 18, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Subject says it all.
> 
> 
> 
> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
> she keeps the firmware up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
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Re: Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten

Does your friend have Bluetooth on her phone turned on? It should work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Subject says it all.
> 
> 
> 
> My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even though 
> she keeps the firmware up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> Is this not possible with the original homepod?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
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Re: Removing SIM Cards

2020-11-18 Thread Shai

Hello Joe,
Yes as others have said switching out a sim to a different phone can be
accomplished by a person who is blind. I would recommend personally that
you do it at a table and that you have a tray or bowl the first time doing
it in case the card is dropped. This way it will be able to be located
pretty easily. I recall a situation where I actually dropped the sim card
and had difficulty locating it even with an augmented reality app such as
Be My Eyes or AIRA.  I needed to have someone who had been sighted to
assist me.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Joe Orozco  wrote:

> Hi, is removing a SIM card something a blind person can easily
> accomplish independently? I'm trying to switch out a card from a 6S to
> an SE 2020. The steps appear easy enough when I looked it up, but I
> also don't want to accidentally mangle my device slot. Any thoughts?
>
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Does hand offf work with the original HomePod?

2020-11-18 Thread Don Breda


Subject says it all.


My friend can not seem to use hand off with her original HomePod even 
though she keeps the firmware up to date.



Is this not possible with the original homepod?


Thanks in advance.


Don



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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older 
phones.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you 
haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an 
older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced 
these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have the image description 
stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is 
not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Shirley Baker

I take back what I said about having your phone in range to receive a text tone 
on your watch. I had my phone here with me when I got a text tone on my watch a 
few minutes ago so your phone does not have to be locked or out of range to get 
this tone. Sounds like a ding to me on the watch. Hadn't really paid much 
attention until someone mentioned it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Mary,
> I removed the weather complication so we shall see.
> Later,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> *I’m not the card shark
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery
>  
> Hi richard,
> Yes, I have noticed that my phone battery drops more now. I believe I have 
> fixed it by getting rid of the weather complication which I had on my watch 
> face. When that was on my watch face, location tracking on was constantly on 
> my iPhone. I got rid of the Weather app from the watch face, and no more 
> location tracking  on and my battery life is better.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since I received my Apple watch on Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is 
> losing charge more quickly.
>  
> Have others noticed this?
>  
> I’m getting 20 to 22 hours out of the watch’s battery though, which is very 
> good.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> flying.
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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Arnold Schmidt

Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you 
haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an 
older phone,   to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced 
these  extra descriptions  on a phone that does not have the image description 
stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is 
not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:


Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
 
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

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On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:


I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
 
Viola
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”
 
Anyone out there know what it represents?
 
Regards…..Reg
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
Hello Listers,
 
What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
 
Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?
 
Noe
 
 
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RE: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Richard Turner

Thanks Mary,
I removed the weather complication so we shall see.
Later,


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

Hi richard,
Yes, I have noticed that my phone battery drops more now. I believe I have 
fixed it by getting rid of the weather complication which I had on my watch 
face. When that was on my watch face, location tracking on was constantly on my 
iPhone. I got rid of the Weather app from the watch face, and no more location 
tracking  on and my battery life is better.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since I received my Apple watch on Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is 
losing charge more quickly.

Have others noticed this?

I’m getting 20 to 22 hours out of the watch’s battery though, which is very 
good.



Richard
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Shirley Baker

I get a message tone when I am away from my phone on my watch but I do not if 
the watch is in range of my phone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard, the watch does make a ding sound when it gets a text message. if 
> yours is not, then check the souns and haptic settings in the watch app. Make 
> sure the alert volume is not turned down.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch, 
>> then I get them on the phone.
>> IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I 
>> prefer it that way.
>> Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.
>> If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have 
>> been OK.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>>  
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>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch
>>  
>> Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
>> getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
>> not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch 
>> and my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text 
>> with, no more message sound.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on 
>> the watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
>> Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
>> message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Chris Chaffin

Richard, the watch does make a ding sound when it gets a text message. if yours 
is not, then check the souns and haptic settings in the watch app. Make sure 
the alert volume is not turned down.

Chris


> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch, 
> then I get them on the phone.
> IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I prefer 
> it that way.
> Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.
> If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have 
> been OK.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>  
> *I’m not the card shark
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch
>  
> Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
> getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
> not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch 
> and my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text 
> with, no more message sound.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
> watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
> Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
> message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Joe Orozco

Assuming the silent mode is not activated, your watch will emit an
audible ding. Also, you can make the vibration stronger by flipping on
the prominence feature. Both of these features are in the
settings.--Joe

On 11/18/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Hi,
> I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch,
> then I get them on the phone.
> IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I
> prefer it that way.
> Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.
> If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have
> been OK.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
> Check out my web site at:
> www.turner42.com
>
> *I’m not the card shark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch
>
> Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m
> getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does
> not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch
> and my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text
> with, no more message sound.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on
> the watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
> Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the
> message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?
>
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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RE: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Richard Turner

Hi,
I just figured out that if I turn off message notifications on the watch, then 
I get them on the phone.
IN my case, since I won’t likely ever be anywhere without the phone, I prefer 
it that way.
Sometimes, the subtle vibration isn’t catching my attention.
If the watch played a sound rather than just the vibration, that might have 
been OK.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch and 
my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text with, 
no more message sound.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Check out my web site at: 
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Chris Chaffin

Richard,

This is how its always been. You will not get a sound on both your watch and 
phone.
If your phone is unlocked, then you will get the notification and sound on your 
phone and not on your watch. Otherwise, unless you turn your watch off for 
those notifications, the sound and notification will go to your watch.

Chris


> On Nov 18, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
> watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
> Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
> message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?
>  
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Re: Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten

Yes, I am not getting my text message tone on my phone anymore. Weirdly, I’m 
getting it on my old phone, to which the watch is not paired, and which does 
not have a Sim card, although it is on the same Wi-Fi network as the watch and 
my phone that has a Sim card. But my real phone, the one I actually text with, 
no more message sound.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
> watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
> Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
> message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Mary Otten

Hi richard,
Yes, I have noticed that my phone battery drops more now. I believe I have 
fixed it by getting rid of the weather complication which I had on my watch 
face. When that was on my watch face, location tracking on was constantly on my 
iPhone. I got rid of the Weather app from the watch face, and no more location 
tracking  on and my battery life is better.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> 
> Since I received my Apple watch on Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is 
> losing charge more quickly.
>  
> Have others noticed this?
>  
> I’m getting 20 to 22 hours out of the watch’s battery though, which is very 
> good.
>  
>  
>  
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Text message alerts after getting the Apple watch

2020-11-18 Thread Richard Turner

Since I got my watch, when I receive a text message, I get a vibration on the 
watch, but absolutely nothing out of my phone.
Email sounds, ringtone, both work on the phone, anyone else finding that the 
message alerts go silent on the phone because of the watch?  Any solution?



Richard
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Apple Watch and iPhone battery

2020-11-18 Thread Richard Turner

Since I received my Apple watch on Friday, it seems like my iPhone battery is 
losing charge more quickly.

Have others noticed this?

I'm getting 20 to 22 hours out of the watch's battery though, which is very 
good.



Richard
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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

I hear it without doing anything. When I use my scale app, it reads the weight 
and then starts talking about the sky unsolicited. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

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  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

Viola

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Sullivan
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I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

Anyone out there know what it represents?

Regards…..Reg

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Re: pillow speaker

2020-11-18 Thread Jen .

Hi interested in one of these.  Which one do you like?

On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pillow speaker

I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33
- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: pillow speaker

The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
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has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?
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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Angie Nutt

I’m seeing this on a 10r. I’ve had: night sky, moon view and document.

All the best
Angie

> On 17 Nov 2020, at 22:57, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
> describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
> told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  
> I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak 
> screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 
> 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried 
> twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods 
> both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20
> 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
>  
> Viola
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
> Sullivan
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
> “night sky”
>  
> Anyone out there know what it represents?
>  
> Regards…..Reg
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Noe Villeda
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
>  
> Hello Listers,
>  
> What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
>  
> Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
> with flashlight and battery usage?
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RE: pillow speaker

2020-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I once bought a pillow speaker and did not find it comfortable. I use one of 
these sleep phones headbands and really like it, it's about as good as it gets 
for wearing something in bed for listening.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: pillow speaker

I found one on Amazon. It is by Pyle. They claim that it is a surround sound 
bluetooth speaker for $33
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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: pillow speaker

The closest I have seen was a soft headband you wear that has the earbuds 
tucked into them.  I’m trying to recall where I saw them – some blindness 
related podcast or article…

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Doc Wright
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Subject: pillow speaker

has anyone run across a bluetooth pilow speaker?
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Re: Face ID

2020-11-18 Thread Julian

Hi Robert,

Somewhere on that screen you should see a button that says not now, or later in 
settings or something to that effect. But double tapping on the button you can 
skip past the requirement.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
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> 
> What I am trying to get rid of is the request to finish setting up iPhone. 
> the last thing it wants me to do is set up Face ID and i have no interest in 
> using it.
> - Original Message -
> From: CoolHappenings
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Face ID
> 
> Go the Settings app on your iPhone.
> Scroll down and tap on “Face ID & Passcode”
> You'll now be asked to enter your password. Do so.
> Now, toggle off the first option that says “iPhone Unlock”
> That's it. Face ID is now disabled.
> 
> 
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> significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
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Re: Face ID

2020-11-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright

What I am trying to get rid of is the request to finish setting up iPhone. the 
last thing it wants me to do is set up Face ID and i have no interest in using 
it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: CoolHappenings 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: Face ID

1.. Go the Settings app on your iPhone.
2.. Scroll down and tap on “Face ID & Passcode”
3.. You'll now be asked to enter your password. Do so.
4.. Now, toggle off the first option that says “iPhone Unlock”
5.. That's it. Face ID is now disabled.

  No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a 
significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

On 17 Nov 2020, at 2:36 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
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How do I get my iPhone to stop bugging me about turning it on?

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Re: Face ID

2020-11-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright

I am going to try this. though I never enabled it. I just reset my phone to 
factory standards and it is not happy that I turned down the offer to set up 
Face ID.
  - Original Message - 
  From: CoolHappenings 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: Face ID

1.. Go the Settings app on your iPhone.
2.. Scroll down and tap on “Face ID & Passcode”
3.. You'll now be asked to enter your password. Do so.
4.. Now, toggle off the first option that says “iPhone Unlock”
5.. That's it. Face ID is now disabled.

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Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Arnold Schmidt

It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. 
Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I 
encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really 
makes a difference. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.
 
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Chaltain at Gmail
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2.
Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
 
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Chaltain at Gmail
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson  wrote:


I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.
 
Viola
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?
“night sky”
 
Anyone out there know what it represents?
 
Regards…..Reg
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
 
Hello Listers,
 
What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?
 
Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?
 
Noe
 
 
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RE: query

2020-11-18 Thread anthonyborg001

Many thanks for your excellent explanation and help Richard. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 17 November 2020 21:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: query

To save an attachment on the iPhone, do the following:

After opening the email, touch on the bottom left corner and flick left and you 
should hear the file name of the attachment, or something that says attachment. 
 You may have to flick left more than once.

Once you are on the attachment, you may hear, tap to download, or just the file 
name.

Double tap it.

If it said “tap to download” wait a few seconds and you should just have the 
file name, double tap again to open it.

IN the top right corner will be a share button.

Double tap that and flick right through the options to what you want to do with 
the file.

If the app you want to save it to doesn’t show up, double tap the more button.

HTH,

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
anthonyborg...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: query

Hi listers 

Can anyone explain to me how to open and safe an attachment I the iphone email 
please? 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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Re: binoral mic kit for iPhone?

2020-11-18 Thread Dionesque

I recommend the Sennheiser Ambeo Smart Headset for 3D sound on iOS devices. I‘m 
running these binaural mics with my iPhone as they plug in directly via 
lightning connector and the sound of the recording is just great and of high 
quality! I‘m sure you will get amazing results while riding and your hands stay 
free to use as the mics are being attached to your ears. 
Greetings, 

Barbara ⭐️ Dionesque 

> Am 16.11.2020 um 18:47 schrieb Matthew Bullis :
> 
> Try the Rode SC6l interview kit. I don't know how well they work for 
> long-range distance, but the sound is great up close if you clip one to 
> either side of your shirt collar. I got this set from 
> www.SweetWater.com
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 8:03 AM, goshawk on horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> hello all,
> does anyone know if there are any really high quality sets of binaural mics, 
> that can be used with an iPhone?
> I am looking to wildlife record whilst out riding, so they need to have a 
> good response, and be able to pick up sound from a distance. I can't really 
> use anything handheld, as my hands are taken up with the reins.
>  
> Simon
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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Go to Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition, as I 
mentioned below.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

How do you turn image description off?

 

I have night mode turned off on my phone.



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

2020-11-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain

For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when 
exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work 
around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hi Deb and all,

I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been 
extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works 
best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of 
this people can also email them at:

accessibil...@apple.com  

as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option.

I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on 
as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an 
iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max  so at least by me it doesn't 
seem to be specific to one generation of phone.

I do hope it gets fixed soon.

Take good care.

Robin

 

On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition 
mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. 

Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll 
probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it 
might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen 
and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to 
describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better 
description of the image, but turning it off,  as it were, didn't turn it 
completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was 
able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me 
on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this 
should report it to them, being that  the more complaints they have about a 
given issue might make it seem more important.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> 
Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to 
describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has 
told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat.  I 
have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, 
etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I 
wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to 
get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before 
disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off.

 

Viola

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means?

“night sky”

 

Anyone out there know what it represents?

 

Regards…..Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky

 

Hello Listers,

 

What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked?

 

Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along 
with flashlight and battery usage?

 

Noe

 

 

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