Re: Groups.IO

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Steve, yes they do. But it is in beta form at the moment. However, due to 
other things that of come up, he is not doing any development on the app right 
now. I will let all know whenever it is back up and good to go. But you have to 
be a part of the beta group in order to know about all the goings-on.

> On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Cook, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
>  
> I thought that Groups.IO had an app to manage groups. Does anyone know which 
> one it is in the app store? I looked it up and their were several.
>  
> Thanks,
> Steve
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Re: Unwanted Verbage after Upgrading to IOS14.4 on iPad

[Donna Casteen]

Pam,

Turn the rotor to describe images, while on the Home screen, flick to turnthe 
feature off.

Donna


> 
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I upgraded to the latest IOS version from IOS 13.7 on my iPad mini.  Now, 
> when I swipe to or touch a different area of the screen such as the status 
> bar, the main part of the screen, or the doc, it says the word “cooking” 
> before saying anything else.  Cooking is the name of a folder I have on my 
> iPhone, but it is not on my iPad.
>  
> I had similar behavior several years ago, and then it was magically fixed 
> when I upgraded to IOS 10, if I am remembering correctly.
>  
> I just wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this.  I will be making a 
> call to Apple accessibility.
>  
> Pam  
>  
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

You mean once to authorise the installation and once again when your phone 
restarted and you had to access your phone

Yes that would be correct as the last step in the installation process is to 
restart the phone / tablet and then of course you have to unlock it with your 
passcode 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 2:51 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I had to put in my 4 digit code twice.  Once before I downloaded the update, 
and once after it installed.  I had no issues updating to IOS 14.4.

On 1/27/21, Marie  wrote:
> I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
> Marie
>
>
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
> installing the update,
>
>
>
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup 
> option to create a new and longer pass code,
>
>
>
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd 
> remove the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id 
> settings.
> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
> 
> wrote:
>
>   No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
>   Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Michael Feir
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
>   If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where 
> you can choose different options including a shorter four digit 
> passcode or something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to 
> remember and use it whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch 
> or face id. There are also other circumstances when you'll be 
> occasionally asked for your passcode.
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting 
> my 4 digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf
>
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> >
> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> >
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, of course.  Nothing has changed.
The original poster did not have a passcode to begin with, and was confused 
because they were being asked to create one.


- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 20:03, Johnna Simmons  wrote:

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty > > a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>> installing the update,
>>  
>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>  
>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch > > wrote:
>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>  
>> Cher
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch > > wrote:
>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
>> code just sits there- nothing happens.
>> 
>> Cher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> 
>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>> 
>> ~Ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> >  From ich.
>> > 
>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf 
>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> > 
>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>> > 
>> > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Entering a passcode is no big deal.  I've got an easy 4 digit code,
and even if the only person who uses my phone is me, I would never
under any circumstances not use a passcode.  I think of the passcode
kind of like if I had a password on my computer to put in whenever I
turned it on.  I don't have a password on my computer, but I know some
people do.

On 1/27/21, Johnna Simmons  wrote:
> I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a
> passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter
> a passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?
>
> Johnna Simmons
>
>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or
>> 00
>>
>> Lyne
>>
 Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit
 :

>>> 
>>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before
>>> installing the update,
>>>
>>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup
>>> option to create a new and longer pass code,
>>>
>>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
>>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
>>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
>>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
>>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch
>>>  wrote:
>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>
>>> Cher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
>>> passcode.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch
>>>  wrote:
>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Cher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Ann
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>
>>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>>>
>>> ~Ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>>> >  From ich.
>>> >
>>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> >
>>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>>> >
>>> > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Johnna Simmons]

I have not done the update yet. But, is there still the option not to have a 
passcode. No one else ever gets my phone, and I do not like having to enter a 
passcode. So, do I still have the option to not use a passcode?

Johnna Simmons

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 
> 
> Lyne
> 
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
>>> 
>> 
>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>> installing the update,
>>  
>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>  
>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
>> wrote:
>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>  
>> Cher
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>  
>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>>  
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
>> wrote:
>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
>> code just sits there- nothing happens.
>> 
>> Cher
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> 
>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>> 
>> ~Ann
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> >  From ich.
>> > 
>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> > 
>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>> > 
>> > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I had to put in my 4 digit code twice.  Once before I downloaded the
update, and once after it installed.  I had no issues updating to IOS
14.4.

On 1/27/21, Marie  wrote:
> I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
> Marie
>
>
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before
> installing the update,
>
>
>
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option
> to create a new and longer pass code,
>
>
>
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
>   No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
>   Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
>   If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
> passcode.
>
>
>
>   On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>
> > Of *Cher Bosch
> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> >
> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> >
> > Cher
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Julie Dawson]

I was prompted and my iPhone is passcode protected already. I put in the code I 
already use.
Julie D.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Snyder 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:59 PM
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?


  That is what I suspected all along.
  You are being prompted to enter a passcode because you didn’t have one before 
the update.
  There is no reason why you cannot continue using your device without a 
passcode if that is what you want.


  - Brad -




  On Jan 27, 2021, at 18:54, Marie  wrote:


  No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
  Marie


  From: Alan Lemly
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  Hi Marie,

  So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini 
before you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some 
pattern as to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new 
passcodes screen while the majority of those replying were not. I had to 
provide my existing 4 digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and 
install and I was never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I 
expect there must be something similar between Cher's and your facts that 
resulted in both of you being taken to the new passcodes screen.

  Alan Lemly

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
  Marie


  From: Alan Lemly 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  Cher,

  I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. 
Are you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

  I hope you can get this sorted.

  Alan Lemly

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

  Cher



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
> 
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Re: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

[Richard Turner]

That is not my experience.


Richard

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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have found if you are in a two person facetime call you cannot add anyone 
> else to the facetime call. But if you have three people on the call you then 
> can add people to the facetime call.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?
> 
> Hi Hary, et al,
> When you are on the first call, flick right to Cart Controller, minimized.  
> Double tap on that.
> Then, about half way down the screen on the right side is an Add Person 
> button.
> If you only have items that say the other persons video or your video, double 
> tap on the other persons video, then the ccart controller button should show 
> up.
> When that is expanded by double tapping it, then you find the other options 
> including Add Person.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:28 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?
> 
> When on a FaceTime call on my iphone SE,  double tapping on the screen will 
> bring up the controls. Richard sent me an article which describes how, if 
> sighted, on the control panel you can go down that menu and add another 
> person to the FaceTime call. But when you first double tap on the screen 
> during your FaceTime call, only the top controls are visible to the eye or to 
> voice-over. If I turn VoiceOver off. It is just possible to push the control 
> panel up to reveal the list of options and then turn VoiceOver on again. 
> Surely there must be a VoiceOver gesture to move the control panel up to 
> reveal these options? Swiping right on the initial four options does not 
> reach those other options nor does a three finger swipe up. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Harry
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Brad Snyder]

That is what I suspected all along.
You are being prompted to enter a passcode because you didn’t have one before 
the update.
There is no reason why you cannot continue using your device without a passcode 
if that is what you want.

- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 18:54, Marie  wrote:

No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
Marie
 
 
From: Alan Lemly <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
Hi Marie,
 
So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.
 
Alan Lemly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
Marie
 
 
From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
Cher,
 
I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.
 
I hope you can get this sorted.
 
Alan Lemly
 
From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com  [ 
<>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
 
Cher
 
 
 
From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com  < 
<>viphone@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
 
If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
 
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch < <>oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net 
> wrote:
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com  < 
> <>viphone@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To:  <>viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
> >  From ich.
> > 
> > 

Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

I was prompted after the update installed, not before.
Marie


From: Simon A Fogarty 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

 

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

 

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

   

  Cher

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

   

  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

   

  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
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Re: Question about IOS update

[Brad Snyder]

These security patches are really nothing new.  Apple has issued this kind of 
update before without the news media giving it so much attention.
I don’t understand why the update is getting so much attention this time.

- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 18:47, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:

I was going to wait to install the update, but after reading the article about 
the security flaws and apples urging people to update right away I will. My 
brother in law even called me after he watched the evening news on ABC I think 
and told me about the major security flaws.

So I guess it is not a good idea to wait.
Sherry Gosling

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 27, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The article could have been in reference to the patching of several 
> “Zero-day Vulnerabilities” that are addressed in the iOS/iPadOS 14.4 updates.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 14:51, Johna Gravitt  > wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> I just got some sort of alert from a news app I subscribe to that says there 
> is some sort of warning for Apple users with the newest update.  Does anyone 
> know what that is all about?  I was unable to click on the news article and 
> read it.
> Johna
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

No, this is a phone which stays home so there was no previous passcode. Could 
be the reason I was prompted to enter one.
Marie


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Hi Marie,

 

So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.

Marie

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

  Cher



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

  ~Ann



  On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
  > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
  >  From ich.
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  > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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  > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: Question about IOS update

[Sherrie Gosling]

I was going to wait to install the update, but after reading the article about 
the security flaws and apples urging people to update right away I will. My 
brother in law even called me after he watched the evening news on ABC I think 
and told me about the major security flaws.

So I guess it is not a good idea to wait.
Sherry Gosling

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



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> The article could have been in reference to the patching of several 
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RE: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
I have found if you are in a two person facetime call you cannot add anyone 
else to the facetime call. But if you have three people on the call you then 
can add people to the facetime call.
Mr. Ed

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

Hi Hary, et al,
When you are on the first call, flick right to Cart Controller, minimized.  
Double tap on that.
Then, about half way down the screen on the right side is an Add Person button.
If you only have items that say the other persons video or your video, double 
tap on the other persons video, then the ccart controller button should show up.
When that is expanded by double tapping it, then you find the other options 
including Add Person.

HTH,


Richard

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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:28 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

When on a FaceTime call on my iphone SE,  double tapping on the screen will 
bring up the controls. Richard sent me an article which describes how, if 
sighted, on the control panel you can go down that menu and add another person 
to the FaceTime call. But when you first double tap on the screen during your 
FaceTime call, only the top controls are visible to the eye or to voice-over. 
If I turn VoiceOver off. It is just possible to push the control panel up to 
reveal the list of options and then turn VoiceOver on again. Surely there must 
be a VoiceOver gesture to move the control panel up to reveal these options? 
Swiping right on the initial four options does not reach those other options 
nor does a three finger swipe up. Any ideas?
Thanks
Harry

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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[l . d . ethier23]

Sorry Richard, 
I probably wasn't clear. Of course, it's too easy!
I just want to tell, if you do the update and before, you wasn't using a pass 
code and after you are invited to enter a code, Apple says that you should use 
123456 or 00. They add this security but when don't know you try many codes 
and you lock your device.


Lyne

> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 18:48, Richard Turner  a 
> écrit :
> 
>  You would only use those passcodes if you wanted your phone used by anyone 
> on the planet. That is like using the word password for your password. 
> Too easy to guess.
> 
> 
> Richard
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>>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 3:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>  For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 
>> 00 
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
>>> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
>>> installing the update,
>>>  
>>> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
>>> to create a new and longer pass code,
>>>  
>>> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
>>> create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and 
>>> change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove 
>>> the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. 
>>> Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
>>> wrote:
>>> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>>>  
>>> Cher
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Michael Feir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>>  
>>> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
>>> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or 
>>> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it 
>>> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are 
>>> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your 
>>> passcode.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
>>> wrote:
>>> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
>>> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>>> 
>>> Cher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> 
>>> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>>> 
>>> ~Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>>> >  From ich.
>>> > 
>>> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>>> > Of *Cher Bosch
>>> > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>>> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>>> > 
>>> > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Julie Dawson]

I just went up to 14.4 from 13.7. I had to install through iTunes. I couldn't 
upgrade through my SE iPhone. What a mess!
Julie D.
  - Original Message - 
  From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 5:42 PM
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?


  For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 


  Lyne


Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :


 
If you have a pass code that is four characters,

The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,



If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
to create a new and longer pass code,



And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?



Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is 
create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change 
it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option 
to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.



On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹



  Cher







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?



  If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.



  On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
 wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 
digit code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
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> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

You would only use those passcodes if you wanted your phone used by anyone on 
the planet. That is like using the word password for your password.
Too easy to guess.


Richard

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On Jan 27, 2021, at 3:42 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00

Lyne

Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :


If you have a pass code that is four characters,
The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



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> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>  From ich.
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[l . d . ethier23]

For those who don't have a pass code, Apple suggest to try 123456 or 00 

Lyne

> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 17:29, Simon A Fogarty  a écrit :
> 
> 
> If you have a pass code that is four characters,
> The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
> installing the update,
>  
> If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option 
> to create a new and longer pass code,
>  
> And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>  
> Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create 
> a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
> something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
> customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
> brilliant ideas occur to me.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch  
> wrote:
> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>  
> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
> alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
> unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
> circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.
>  
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
> wrote:
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
> >  From ich.
> > 
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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Unwanted Verbage after Upgrading to IOS14.4 on iPad

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi All,

I upgraded to the latest IOS version from IOS 13.7 on my iPad mini.  Now, when 
I swipe to or touch a different area of the screen such as the status bar, the 
main part of the screen, or the doc, it says the word "cooking" before saying 
anything else.  Cooking is the name of a folder I have on my iPhone, but it is 
not on my iPad.

I had similar behavior several years ago, and then it was magically fixed when 
I upgraded to IOS 10, if I am remembering correctly.

I just wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this.  I will be making a call 
to Apple accessibility.

Pam



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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Simon A Fogarty]

If you have a pass code that is four characters,
The phone should not need you to change that to a 6 digit code before 
installing the update,

If anything it would prompt you after you restart as part of a setup option to 
create a new and longer pass code,

And even that I would think is crazy of apple to force at that point.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

Cher



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
>  From ich.
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Re: Question about IOS update

[Brad Snyder]

The article could have been in reference to the patching of several “Zero-day 
Vulnerabilities” that are addressed in the iOS/iPadOS 14.4 updates.

- Brad -


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Hello All,
I just got some sort of alert from a news app I subscribe to that says there is 
some sort of warning for Apple users with the newest update.  Does anyone know 
what that is all about?  I was unable to click on the news article and read it.
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Marie,

 

So I'm curious. Did you set up another 4 digit passcode on your 12 Mini before 
you were able to upgrade to iOS 14.4? I'm trying to establish some pattern as 
to why some folks upgrading their devices were taken to a new passcodes screen 
while the majority of those replying were not. I had to provide my existing 4 
digit passcode before the upgrade would even download and install and I was 
never taken to a new passcodes screen during the process. I expect there must 
be something similar between Cher's and your facts that resulted in both of you 
being taken to the new passcodes screen.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.

Marie

 

 

From: Alan Lemly 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



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> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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Question about IOS update

[Johna Gravitt]

Hello All,
I just got some sort of alert from a news app I subscribe to that says there is 
some sort of warning for Apple users with the newest update.  Does anyone know 
what that is all about?  I was unable to click on the news article and read it.
Johna

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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Marie]

No, she is not wrong about it asking for a new passcode. I updated my 12 Mini 
to 14.4 yesterday and was also asked about face ID and Passcode. However, I did 
see the passcode options button.
Marie


From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

  Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

  Cher



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

  I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

  ~Ann



  On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
  > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
  >  From ich.
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  > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
  > Of *Cher Bosch
  > *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
  > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
  > *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
  > 
  > Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I can confirm that it is true for the APH products and that for several others 
it is not true. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

 

I’ve had no issues at all with my Orbit Reader 20 plus.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

 

Not sure if anyone has seen or verified thinformation. I got it from a 
different list. If it isn’t correct then I send my apologies in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

Here is some extremely important information for anyone who uses any Braille 
display with their iDevice running IOS 14.4. I know this only talks about the 
APH products but it is true for all Braille displays.

 

 

 

From: The AT Center mailto:ataem_i...@ocali.org> > 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:59 AM

To: =?utf-8?Q??= mailto:maria...@denningweb.com> >

Subject: Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 Update from APH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 > View this email in your browser 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 > 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

Dear Requestors,

 

The AT Center would like to share with you this update from APH regarding 
the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have identified connection issues for the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 after 
upgrading to iOS 14.4. We recommend that you turn off automatic updates, and do 
not upgrade to 14.4. This is a regression introduced by Apple in this release. 
We alerted them to this issue during 14.4 beta testing, and we hope they will 
correct it in a possible 14.4.1 release. Stay tuned to your inbox for further 
updates.

 

Once upgraded to iOS 14.4, and as soon as users lock their iPad or iPhone with 
the Mantis or Chameleon connected, the braille display will not automatically 
reconnect once the device wakes back up. You can force it to reconnect by 
leaving the terminal and reconnecting from there, but then you won’t get 
braille. The only way to get braille back is to toggle Bluetooth on the iOS 
device, but the issue will happen again as soon as you lock your device or it 
goes to sleep.

 

To stop an iOS device from auto updating, do the following:

 

* Open the Settings app

* Activate the General option

* Activate the Software Update option

* Activate the Automatic Updates option

* Turn off both, “download iOS updates,” and “Install iOS updates.”

 

If you’ve already updated to iOS 14.4, please refer to this link for 
instructions on how to downgrade your iOS device:  

 =e300db8cfa=aed84c0bf4> 
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-downgrade-ios,review-6519.html 

RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Yes- your understanding is correct. I called Apple and all the same screens 
presented themselves- with the same lack of options. After several attempts to 
find alternatives, he had me do a 3 finger swipe up and flick through the 
screens again- both left and right. Suddenly the options button magically 
appeared and this allowed me to choose a 4 digit code again. Thanks to all who 
replied- it is great to have so many folks in your corner when you’re about to 
pull your hair out!

 

Cher 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *On Behalf 
> Of *Cher Bosch
> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com  
> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
> 
> Cher
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RE: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

[Richard Turner]

I've had no issues at all with my Orbit Reader 20 plus.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

Not sure if anyone has seen or verified thinformation. I got it from a 
different list. If it isn't correct then I send my apologies in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups


Here is some extremely important information for anyone who uses any Braille 
display with their iDevice running IOS 14.4. I know this only talks about the 
APH products but it is true for all Braille displays.







From: The AT Center mailto:ataem_i...@ocali.org>>

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:59 AM

To: =?utf-8?Q??= mailto:maria...@denningweb.com>>

Subject: Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 Update from APH





















>
 View this email in your browser













  
>

















Dear Requestors,



The AT Center would like to share with you this update from APH regarding 
the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20...















"We have identified connection issues for the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 after 
upgrading to iOS 14.4. We recommend that you turn off automatic updates, and do 
not upgrade to 14.4. This is a regression introduced by Apple in this release. 
We alerted them to this issue during 14.4 beta testing, and we hope they will 
correct it in a possible 14.4.1 release. Stay tuned to your inbox for further 
updates.



Once upgraded to iOS 14.4, and as soon as users lock their iPad or iPhone with 
the Mantis or Chameleon connected, the braille display will not automatically 
reconnect once the device wakes back up. You can force it to reconnect by 
leaving the terminal and reconnecting from there, but then you won't get 
braille. The only way to get braille back is to toggle Bluetooth on the iOS 
device, but the issue will happen again as soon as you lock your device or it 
goes to sleep.



To stop an iOS device from auto updating, do the following:



* Open the Settings app

* Activate the General option

* Activate the Software Update option

* Activate the Automatic Updates option

* Turn off both, "download iOS updates," and "Install iOS updates."



If you've already updated to iOS 14.4, please refer to this link for 
instructions on how to downgrade your iOS device:  
>
 
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-downgrade-ios,review-6519.html



If you have any questions or concerns, please contact the APH Customer 
Experience Team at   c...@aph.org or 
800-223-1839. Mantis and Chameleon users can also subscribe to the community 
user email group for more updates at  
 

Re: How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?

[Duane Steele]

Thanks Jennie. Both you and Richard have solved my problem. I truly appreciate 
both of your words of wisdom to resolve this issue, and find myself wondering 
why I didn't think of that. Hope you have a great day.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> What you may have to do is go into your commands and find which one is the 
> toggle for shift key always on. This needs to be toggled off again. I think 
> that is what has happened.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> Sometimes I am sending a text having to write using 8-dot mode on my Braille 
>> display. Somehow, capsLock has been turned on on my phone and I can't get 
>> rid of it. Can anyone using a  display help me correct this? Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?

[Duane Steele]

Good news, Richard. It's the same command for the BrailleEdge 40, and, 
apparently for most Braille displays. Now why didn't I think of that? I 
appreciate the wisdom you and others bring to this list, and I'm glad to be on 
it.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> On the Orbit displays, the Toggle Shift is dot 4, plus dot 8, plus spacebar.
> If you don't have an Orbit, open the VoiceOver Braille settings.
> Find your device and flick up to More Info and double tap.
> Double tap then on Braille commands.  Flick right to keyboard and double tap.
> Then, the Toggle shift is near the end of that list.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:57 AM
> To: IPhone List 
> Subject: How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Sometimes I am sending a text having to write using 8-dot mode on my Braille 
> display. Somehow, capsLock has been turned on on my phone and I can't get rid 
> of it. Can anyone using a  display help me correct this? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
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note on Braille display problem with IOS 14.4

[Paul JOrdan]

Not sure if anyone has seen or verified thinformation. I got it from a
different list. If it isn't correct then I send my apologies in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

Here is some extremely important information for anyone who uses any Braille
display with their iDevice running IOS 14.4. I know this only talks about
the APH products but it is true for all Braille displays.

 

 

From: The AT Center mailto:ataem_i...@ocali.org>
> 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:59 AM

To: =?utf-8?Q??= mailto:maria...@denningweb.com> >

Subject: Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20 Update from APH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 View this email in your browser 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

Dear Requestors,

 

The AT Center would like to share with you this update from APH
regarding the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We have identified connection issues for the Mantis Q40 and Chameleon 20
after upgrading to iOS 14.4. We recommend that you turn off automatic
updates, and do not upgrade to 14.4. This is a regression introduced by
Apple in this release. We alerted them to this issue during 14.4 beta
testing, and we hope they will correct it in a possible 14.4.1 release. Stay
tuned to your inbox for further updates.

Once upgraded to iOS 14.4, and as soon as users lock their iPad or iPhone
with the Mantis or Chameleon connected, the braille display will not
automatically reconnect once the device wakes back up. You can force it to
reconnect by leaving the terminal and reconnecting from there, but then you
won't get braille. The only way to get braille back is to toggle Bluetooth
on the iOS device, but the issue will happen again as soon as you lock your
device or it goes to sleep.

To stop an iOS device from auto updating, do the following:

 

* Open the Settings app

* Activate the General option

* Activate the Software Update option

* Activate the Automatic Updates option

* Turn off both, "download iOS updates," and "Install iOS
updates."

 

If you've already updated to iOS 14.4, please refer to this link for
instructions on how to downgrade your iOS device:
 =e300db8cfa=aed84c0bf4>
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-downgrade-ios,review-6519.html

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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Alan Lemly]

Cher,

 

I'm a bit confused because I thought I'd read all the posts in this thread. Are 
you saying that you upgraded your device which previously had a 4 digit 
passcode to iOS 14.4. and during that process you were presented with a screen 
requesting a new 6 digit passcode? If that is the case, your experience seems 
to differ with what everyone else who has posted experienced including myself. 
That leads me to believe that either my understanding of what has happened is 
incorrect or you need to provide some additional details in order for us to 
help. Based on my experience, it sounds as if you are on a new device setup 
screen where the default is to prompt the user to set up a 6 digit passcode but 
also provides an option to opt for a 4 digit passcode as others have posted. I 
was not presented with any such screen when updating to iOS 14.4 so either your 
facts disagree with my understanding or your facts need a different subject 
line. I would agree with Richard that you might call Apple Accessibility but I 
suspect they will ask for the additional details I requested above.

 

I hope you can get this sorted.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cher Bosch
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch  
wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: Mentions in Texts

[Chris Szostak]

Hi All!

  The actual subject line is "Mentions in Texts". It's refering to the 
"mentions" that have been added to texts. I'm really sorry for the confusing 
subjectline I made:(!! Please forgive me for any confusion this has caused.

 

"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)

 

I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and when they 
prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and then 
declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for all of 
eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly urge 
you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through prayer 
into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the most 
amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, then I 
dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises that could 
change your life.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

I’ve noticed that too on some messages.

It is like the subject field is hidden.

But, it isn’t true with all messages.

No clue what is going on.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

For some reason, the messages I’m getting on this list subjected “Mentions in 
text” aren’t showing the subject. Any ideas?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information. 

 

Arnold 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

mentions can be turned off in 

settings/messages

 

- Original Message - 

From: Chris Szostak   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM

Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

Yep but sadly it's still there:).

 

"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)

 

I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and when they 
prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and then 
declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for all of 
eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly urge 
you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through prayer 
into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the most 
amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, then I 
dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises that could 
change your life.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

Hi Jasmine,

 

Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an option to 
add to or remove from the rotor.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Jasmine Kotsay   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

Hi,

Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for some 
reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in the 
rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!

 

On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL  


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Larry Lumpkin   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM

Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of 

RE: How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?

[Richard Turner]

On the Orbit displays, the Toggle Shift is dot 4, plus dot 8, plus spacebar.
If you don't have an Orbit, open the VoiceOver Braille settings.
Find your device and flick up to More Info and double tap.
Double tap then on Braille commands.  Flick right to keyboard and double tap.
Then, the Toggle shift is near the end of that list.

HTH,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
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Hello Listers,

Sometimes I am sending a text having to write using 8-dot mode on my Braille 
display. Somehow, capsLock has been turned on on my phone and I can't get rid 
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Re: How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?

[Jennie Facer]

What you may have to do is go into your commands and find which one is the 
toggle for shift key always on. This needs to be toggled off again. I think 
that is what has happened.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> display. Somehow, capsLock has been turned on on my phone and I can't get rid 
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How do I turn off capslock when writing in eight-dot mode?

[Duane Steele]

Hello Listers,

Sometimes I am sending a text having to write using 8-dot mode on my Braille 
display. Somehow, capsLock has been turned on on my phone and I can't get rid 
of it. Can anyone using a  display help me correct this? Thanks.
 

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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Larry Lumpkin]

I updated my iphone 7 to 14.4 and the option never appeared. I entered my 
4-digit passcode just fine.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is create a 
six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and change it to 
something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove the option to 
customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings. Unfortunately, no 
brilliant ideas occur to me.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Michael Feir]

Wow! I wonder if there was an earlier option. Only thing to do here is
create a six digit passcode and then after setup, go into settings and
change it to something more suitable later. I can't imagine they'd remove
the option to customize your passcode from the passcode and id settings.
Unfortunately, no brilliant ideas occur to me.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:05 AM Cher Bosch 
wrote:

> No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹
>
>
>
> Cher
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Feir
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
>
>
> If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
> choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
> something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
> whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
> also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
> passcode.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
> wrote:
>
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
> >
> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Pass codes should not be affected. I still use Touch ID, with the same 4-digit 
code on my SE 2020. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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RE: Mentions in Texts

[Richard Turner]

I’ve noticed that too on some messages.
It is like the subject field is hidden.
But, it isn’t true with all messages.
No clue what is going on.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

For some reason, the messages I’m getting on this list subjected “Mentions in 
text” aren’t showing the subject. Any ideas?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information.

Arnold
Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

mentions can be turned off in
settings/messages

- Original Message -
From: Chris Szostak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

Yep but sadly it's still there:).

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I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

Hi Jasmine,

Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an option to 
add to or remove from the rotor.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Jasmine Kotsay
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

Hi,
Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for some 
reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in the 
rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!


On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of a strange subject to me so I didn’t 
understand since I don’t do texting.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Larry,
The subject is ther:

Mentions in Texts

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts
A subject would be helpful.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Jasmine,
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 2020 
iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on I don't 
get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn iMessages off in 
order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group messenging... + the other 
settings to show.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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From: Jasmine Kotsay
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi,
I was wondering, 

RE: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

[Richard Turner]

Hi Hary, et al,
When you are on the first call, flick right to Cart Controller, minimized.  
Double tap on that.
Then, about half way down the screen on the right side is an Add Person button.
If you only have items that say the other persons video or your video, double 
tap on the other persons video, then the ccart controller button should show up.
When that is expanded by double tapping it, then you find the other options 
including Add Person.

HTH,


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:28 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

When on a FaceTime call on my iphone SE,  double tapping on the screen will 
bring up the controls. Richard sent me an article which describes how, if 
sighted, on the control panel you can go down that menu and add another person 
to the FaceTime call. But when you first double tap on the screen during your 
FaceTime call, only the top controls are visible to the eye or to voice-over. 
If I turn VoiceOver off. It is just possible to push the control panel up to 
reveal the list of options and then turn VoiceOver on again. Surely there must 
be a VoiceOver gesture to move the control panel up to reveal these options? 
Swiping right on the initial four options does not reach those other options 
nor does a three finger swipe up. Any ideas?
Thanks
Harry

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Fwd: zoom

['Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone]

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Linda Gaitskell 
> Date: 27 January 2021 at 16:10:12 GMT
> To: Linda Gaitskell 
> Subject: zoom
> 
> Until recently I have been partisipating in a zoom session using my iphone S 
> E with an external speaker plugged into the phone but for some reason now 
> when I have the speaker plugged in I can hear all the phones own speach but 
> once the host lets me into the meeting I now can't hear her so wondered if 
> somehow I have changed a setting.  Any suggestions please.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

No options at all- just the 10 keys and a delete button ☹

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can 
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or something 
alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it whenever you 
unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are also other 
circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your passcode.

 

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
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I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: VoiceOver sound and computer Zoom iOS 14.3

[Brad Snyder]

I am a little confused on what you are trying to do.
If you are in a Zoom meeting on your iPhone, and want your VoiceOver to be 
heard while doing a Screen Share, then I recommend turning on Original Sound.  
You may first need to enable this option via setting on the Zoom.us 
 website, then turning on Original Sound in the iOS app on 
your iPhone, during a Zoom call, before beginning Screen Share.

I hope this helps you do whatever it is you are trying to do.

- Brad -


On Jan 27, 2021, at 09:30, Shai  wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to share VoiceOver sound through my computer with iOS 14.3.
I installed the Zoom plug in and selected share iPhone/iPad on the
share sheet. I then selected screen mirroring and selected Zoom ad-on
from control center on my iPhone. All audio such as music does come
through while sharing; however, VoiceOver speech does not.
I looked for audio destination in the rotor to attempt to change
VoiceOver sound to the Zoom ad-on but that was not an option even
though I have audio destination selected.
Has anyone gotten this to work?
I am using a Windows10  computer.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Michael Feir]

If you flick right, you should get to a point in the screen where you can
choose different options including a shorter four digit passcode or
something alphanumeric. Just remember you'll have to remember and use it
whenever you unlock your phone and don't use touch or face id. There are
also other circumstances when you'll be occasionally asked for your
passcode.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 10:57 AM Cher Bosch 
wrote:

> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4
> digit code just sits there- nothing happens.
>
> Cher
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> > Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.
> >  From ich.
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> > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

There should be a passcode options button. If not, call Apple Accessibility.


Richard

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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Cher Bosch  wrote:
> 
> Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
> code just sits there- nothing happens.
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>> From ich.
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>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
>> Of *Cher Bosch
>> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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>> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
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>> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
>> 
>> Cher
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Re: VoiceOver sound and computer Zoom iOS 14.3

[Richard Turner]

I'm a little confused about sharing VoiceOver audio on a Windows computer ... 
but from the iPhone VoiceOver stays with the phone when doing airplay/screen 
mirroring as far as I know.
Perhaps a call to Apple Accessibility?
877-204-3930


Richard

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:30 AM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am trying to share VoiceOver sound through my computer with iOS 14.3.
> I installed the Zoom plug in and selected share iPhone/iPad on the
> share sheet. I then selected screen mirroring and selected Zoom ad-on
> from control center on my iPhone. All audio such as music does come
> through while sharing; however, VoiceOver speech does not.
> I looked for audio destination in the rotor to attempt to change
> VoiceOver sound to the Zoom ad-on but that was not an option even
> though I have audio destination selected.
> Has anyone gotten this to work?
> I am using a Windows10  computer.
> Thank you in advance for any responses.
> 
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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Screen says 'create passcode' and '0 of 6 values entered. Putting my 4 digit 
code just sits there- nothing happens.

Cher

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:48 AM
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I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
>  From ich.
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> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
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> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
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> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Richard Turner]

there should be an option, though Apple recommends 6 for better security, but 
you should be able to choose a 4 digit passcode, and if that is what you had, 
you should be able to just use it. 


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
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"Why, what did she tell you?"
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-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:47 AM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.
> 
> ~Ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16.  From 
>> ich.
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Cher Bosch
>> *Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?
>> Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!
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Re: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Ann]

I just updated and also was able to enter my usual four-digit code.

~Ann



On 1/27/2021 10:27 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. 
 From ich.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
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*Sent:* January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!

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VoiceOver sound and computer Zoom iOS 14.3

[Shai]

Hello,
I am trying to share VoiceOver sound through my computer with iOS 14.3.
I installed the Zoom plug in and selected share iPhone/iPad on the
share sheet. I then selected screen mirroring and selected Zoom ad-on
from control center on my iPhone. All audio such as music does come
through while sharing; however, VoiceOver speech does not.
I looked for audio destination in the rotor to attempt to change
VoiceOver sound to the Zoom ad-on but that was not an option even
though I have audio destination selected.
Has anyone gotten this to work?
I am using a Windows10  computer.
Thank you in advance for any responses.


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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. From ich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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Subject: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

 

Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!

 

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VoiceOver gesture in FaceTime?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

When on a FaceTime call on my iphone SE,  double tapping on the screen will 
bring up the controls. Richard sent me an article which describes how, if 
sighted, on the control panel you can go down that menu and add another person 
to the FaceTime call. But when you first double tap on the screen during your 
FaceTime call, only the top controls are visible to the eye or to voice-over. 
If I turn VoiceOver off. It is just possible to push the control panel up to 
reveal the list of options and then turn VoiceOver on again. Surely there must 
be a VoiceOver gesture to move the control panel up to reveal these options? 
Swiping right on the initial four options does not reach those other options 
nor does a three finger swipe up. Any ideas?
Thanks
Harry

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14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Cher Bosch]

Just updated. tell me it ain't so! Please!

 

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RE: Mentions in Texts

[Larry Lumpkin]

For some reason, the messages I’m getting on this list subjected “Mentions in 
text” aren’t showing the subject. Any ideas?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information. 

 

Arnold 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20


On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

mentions can be turned off in 

settings/messages

 

- Original Message - 

From: Chris Szostak   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM

Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

Yep but sadly it's still there:).

 

"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)

 

I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and when they 
prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and then 
declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for all of 
eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly urge 
you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through prayer 
into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the most 
amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, then I 
dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises that could 
change your life.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

Hi Jasmine,

 

Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an option to 
add to or remove from the rotor.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Jasmine Kotsay   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

 

Hi,

Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for some 
reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in the 
rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!






On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL  


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Larry Lumpkin   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM

Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

 

Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of a strange subject to me so I didn’t 
understand since I don’t do texting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

Hi Larry,

The subject is ther:  

Mentions in Texts


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Larry Lumpkin   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:03 PM

Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

A subject would be helpful.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

Hi Jasmine,

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 2020 
iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on I don't 
get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn iMessages off in 
order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group messenging... + the other 
settings to show.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Jasmine Kotsay   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

Hi,

I was wondering, even though I have iMessage on, I still have the mentions 
heading in my text messages. I don’t really know what it is for, so therefore I 
don’t like it much. I’m going to try the steps you mentioned so that I can see 
if I can get it to turn off.

On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Mike B mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Chris,

Go to, Settings / Messages, and open.  Note:  If you have iMessages turned on 
you won't have 

Re: NP3 tag editor?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Robert,

There is a version in beta. It's a little trickier to use than the Windows 
version, but it definitely shows promise. To sign up for the beta and learn 
more, go to
https://mp3tag.app 

Best,
Anna


> On Jan 26, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a Mac version of mp3 tag?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:38 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> MP3 tag is great. Very flexible and accessible. You can also select multiple 
>> files and edit the data they have in common, such as the album name.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is mp3 tag for Windows.
>>> 
>>> https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqgamUpNJtVM9ATWvAEjOAVqmbPW?e=celSZ3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:17 AM
>>> Subject: RE: NP3 tag editor?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Richard, you know what a nightmare tags are.  I'll take a look.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: 26 January 2021 15:41
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: NP3 tag editor?
>>> 
>>> Malcom,
>>> I personally use Goldwave for this even when I do not need to do any 
>>> editing.
>>> Some people like MP3 Direct Cut.
>>> 
>>> Later,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 6:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: NP3 tag editor?
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know for a speech friendly MP3 tag editing program?
>>> 
>>> I have a couple of files I want to edit so that they are organised more 
>>> accurately by the Music app on my iPhone.
>>> 
>>> I would prefer to edit them manually as there are not that many that need 
>>> alterations made to them.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Mentions in Texts

[Richard Turner]

Right before it says that you will be notified when your name is mentioned even 
if conversations are muted, there is a button that says notify me. If it is on, 
then you will be notified when your name is mentioned in any conversation. If 
that button is off, then you won't be notified when your name is mentioned in a 
conversation.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 27, 2021, at 5:54 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


well, under settings/messages/mentions It says that you will be notified 
whenever your name is mentioned even if conversations are muted.
I still don't no what this means...
- Original Message -
From: Arnold Schmidt
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information.

Arnold

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


mentions can be turned off in
settings/messages

- Original Message -
From: Chris Szostak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

Yep but sadly it's still there:).
"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)
I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and when they 
prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and then 
declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for all of 
eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly urge 
you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through prayer 
into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the most 
amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, then I 
dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises that could 
change your life.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Jasmine,
Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an option to 
add to or remove from the rotor.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Jasmine Kotsay
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi,
Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for some 
reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in the 
rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!


On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts
Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of a strange subject to me so I didn’t 
understand since I don’t do texting.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Larry,
The subject is ther:

Mentions in Texts

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts
A subject would be helpful.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Jasmine,
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 2020 
iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on I don't 
get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn iMessages off in 
order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group messenging... + the other 
settings to show.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -

Re: Mentions in Texts

[Robert Doc Wright]

well, under settings/messages/mentions It says that you will be notified 
whenever your name is mentioned even if conversations are muted.
I still don't no what this means...
- Original Message - 
  From: Arnold Schmidt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts


  So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information. 


  Arnold 


  Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

  On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


   
  mentions can be turned off in 
  settings/messages

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Szostak 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts


Yep but sadly it's still there:).



"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)



I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the 
following promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and 
when they prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and 
then declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for 
all of eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly 
urge you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through 
prayer into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the 
most amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, 
then I dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises 
that could change your life.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts



Hi Jasmine,



Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an 
option to add to or remove from the rotor.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Jasmine Kotsay 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM

Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts



Hi,

Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for 
some reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in 
the rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!





  On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B  wrote:

   

  I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL  


  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Larry Lumpkin 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM

  Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts



  Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of a strange subject to me so I 
didn’t understand since I don’t do texting.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:21 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

  Hi Larry,

  The subject is ther:  

  Mentions in Texts


  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Larry Lumpkin 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:03 PM

  Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

  A subject would be helpful.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

  Hi Jasmine,

  I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 
2020 iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on I 
don't get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn iMessages 
off in order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group messenging... + 
the other settings to show.

  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Jasmine Kotsay 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:44 AM

  Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts

  Hi,

  I was wondering, even though I have iMessage on, I still have the 
mentions heading in my text messages. I don’t really know what it is for, so 
therefore I don’t like it much. I’m going to try the steps you mentioned so 
that I can see if I can get it to turn off.

On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Mike B  wrote:

 

Hi Chris,

Go to, Settings / Messages, and open.  Note:  If you have iMessages 
turned on you won't have the, Mentions, heading so, turn iMessages off to get 
it.
Swipe several times to the, Mentions heading,  now swipe right 1 time 
to, Notify Me, and turn this feature off.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Chris Szostak 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Re: can you convert wav files into mp3s

[Bill Gallik]

Just a point I thought I’d make in this thread; it is not feasible to convert 
the other direction.  That is, converting from MP3 to WAV format will render 
less than desirable results.  This s because the MP3 format excludes some 
sounds that cannot easily be presumed by any conversion tool.  This is why an 
MP3 version of a sound stream is typically much smaller than a WAV format of 
the same stream.



* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "Judge each day not by the harvest you reap but by the seeds you plant."
- Robert Louis Stevenson


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Re: Mentions in Texts

[Arnold Schmidt]

So, what are mentions? Thanks for any information. 

Arnold 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 20

On Jan 26, 2021, at 5:22 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


mentions can be turned off in
settings/messages
 
- Original Message -
From: Chris Szostak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts

Yep but sadly it's still there:).
 
"Your value is only what God says. He thinks YOU are worth dying for!" (Our 
Daily Bread Ministries)
 
I dare you to give this a try! Believe in and start to live by the following 
promises: Psalm 46 10a, Philippians 4:6-7, and Exodus 14:14. Oh, and when they 
prove to be true in your life remember to follow Philippians 4:4 and then 
declare 1 Chronicles 29:13! If you want  to live with these promises for all of 
eternity and avoid what you'll find in Revelation 20:15, then I strongly urge 
you to follow and accept Romans 10:9-10 and then ask Christ, through prayer 
into your life before it's too late! What are you waiting for! It's the most 
amazing and life-changing decision you could ever make! Want even more, then I 
dare you to check out the whole Bible for even more amazing promises that could 
change your life.
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
 
Hi Jasmine,
 
Unless I missed it big time, on my SE 2020 phone, Mentions, is not an option to 
add to or remove from the rotor.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Jasmine Kotsay
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
 
Hi,
Somehow, I was able to turn mentions off in my messages settings, but for some 
reason it won’t go out of the rotor. I would prefer  it not to even be in the 
rotor, but I am unsure of how to fix it. Thank you so much!


On Jan 25, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Mike B  wrote:


I know what you mean!  I took a double take on it as well.  LOL 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts
 
Oh, sorry. I just saw it. It was a bit of a strange subject to me so I didn’t 
understand since I don’t do texting.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Larry,
The subject is ther: 
Mentions in Texts


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lumpkin
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Mentions in Texts
A subject would be helpful.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi Jasmine,
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.  I'm running iOS 14.3 on an SE 2020 
iPhone.  When I open, Settings / Messages, if I have iMessage turned on I don't 
get the Mentions heading to turn Mentions off.  I need to turn iMessages off in 
order for the SMS / MMS Heading, MMS messaging, Group messenging... + the other 
settings to show.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Jasmine Kotsay
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: Mentions in Texts
Hi,
I was wondering, even though I have iMessage on, I still have the mentions 
heading in my text messages. I don’t really know what it is for, so therefore I 
don’t like it much. I’m going to try the steps you mentioned so that I can see 
if I can get it to turn off.
On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi Chris,
Go to, Settings / Messages, and open.  Note:  If you have iMessages turned on 
you won't have the, Mentions, heading so, turn iMessages off to get it.
Swipe several times to the, Mentions heading,  now swipe right 1 time to, 
Notify Me, and turn this feature off.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Szostak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:46 AM
Subject: Mentions in Texts
Hi All!
  Does anyone know how to make VoiceOver stop indicating mentions. I have them 
turned off in settings, but VoiceOver keeps reading them and it's actually 
really distracting as they are pointless to hear. Any help would be wonderfully 
appreciated. If it helps, I'm using the iPhone 8 with iOS 14.3.
Have a blessed day all!
Chris
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