Re: Phone Not Ringing

[Chela Robles]

Actually, Alan, there is still do not disturb. I just tested it out with Siri and I was able to toggle it on and off so she might want to try that. Then she can have someone test call her or something and see if the phone rings. And if she does have the volume set to 100%, which is very loud in my opinion, she’ll be able to really hear it. I usually have mine set to like half that. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Sandy, I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could be turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down where it
 says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all your calls to go straight to voice
 mail unless you set up exceptions in Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from certain apps.
Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you if any of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this has to be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a particular
 focus on or off..
 


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When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause
 this behavior?  Thank you.
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Re: Phone Not Ringing

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Either call Apple or your cell phone carrier maybe they can troubleshoot it with you. That is if silent mode is not enabled or blocking unknown callers is disabled. did you check if the volume slider is set to zero in the settings under sounds and vibration? If it’s turned up all the way is 100% then I would definitely suggest either try to reboot your phone and have someone do a call with you and if that doesn’t work, then I’d say definitely call your carrier or Apple. At least if Apple can’t fix it hopefully your carrier could.  Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 6:31 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:The two things I think of when this is happening for people is:1. Is Do Not Disturb on?2. Is Silence Unknown Callers on under settings phone? I hope it helps. If not, I'd call Apple.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On May 14, 2024, at 6:15 AM, Sandra Finley  wrote:When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause this behavior?  Thank you.



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Re: The Accessibility of a Particular Metronome iPhone App

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Try Tonal Energy Chromatic Tuner. It has a metronome that is what you want. It's accessible. On the app store it goes by the name, TE Tuner. I use it all the time when I practice.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 12, 2024, at 8:49 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:I am so sorry. I did not look it up on Applevis. I should have, and I didn't even think about it. I think I spent more time playing with it and after frustration, I just went to the list. My apologies.Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!On May 12, 2024, at 8:46 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hello Jim,Have you looked this app up on appleVis? It's fine to ask here, but someone may have written it up in the app directory there.HTH,AnnaOn May 12, 2024, at 10:40 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:Hello there friends and list members,I am needing to get a good metronome app that goes beyond the basics. I’m needing one that is easy to set and that allows for particular sub beats to be set as well.The app my music teacher is using is called ProMetronome, and it does some fantastic stuff. However, I don’t know if it is just operator error, but I haven’t found it to be very accessible or useable. Some of the buttons don’t seem to be labeled, and I can’t tell how to set a particular tempo or beats per minute.Before I write to the app developer, I wanted to know if anyone has used it or if other people find it useable and maybe I am the one missing something. I don’t want to write a developer and give him a whole deal about accessibility to blind people when other blind people are using the app just fine. I hope you don’t mind if I brought this up on the list.If this is not a useable app, does anyone have a good app that can be used with the phone? I’m using Tempo Perfect, but to set it, I have to literally slide my finger up and down through the beats per minute, and if I’m going from 60 to 160, I would like a better way. Any help would be appreciated.Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/009f01daa4e7%243e0693b0%24ba13bb10%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Pinch Gesture On Apple Watch Ultra 2

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Same here and I own the original ultra.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 30, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:I can confirm that I too am unable to get this to work using voiceover.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Apr 30, 2024, at 5:32 PM, Edward Przybylek  wrote:Hi all, I’ve been trying to turn on pinch gestures on my Apple watch Ultra 2.  So far, no luck.  I called Apple accessibility support and, after half an hour, the representative told me she didn’t believe the feature works when using VoiceOver at the same time.  I thought I’d write to the list and see if this is the case.  Has anyone gotten this feature to work?  If so, could you please pass on any tips you have that might get the pinch and other gestures working on my watch.  As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Take care,Ed Przybylek 



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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

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I already solved the issue Alex thanks to the prior solution given by someone 
else. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Alex Stone  
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> Why do you want to clear it? It’s not doing any harm.
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2024, at 14:42, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, 
>> then I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no 
>> way to clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general 
>> shut down.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

Thank you for the fix it worked that was so weird. Never had this issue before. 
Bookmarking This for future reference.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then 
> I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
> clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut 
> down.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then I 
tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut down.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
> reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
> hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
> solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some 
> sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did 
> restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't 
> even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
> Sent from my iPhone

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Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some sort 
like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did restart my 
phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't even summon 
apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
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Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Chela Robles]

Try YouMail. I do not personally utilize it but have read about it on applevis 
long ago.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Verizon is better than some at stopping those calls, I don't get many 
> of them any more. Or, maybe it is that I simply don't answer the call if I 
> don't recognize the number or it says the contact name, unless I am expecting 
> a call whose number I may not recognize.   I figured that the telemarketing 
> systems would catch onto the fact that I never answered their calls and would 
> delete my number after a while. If it is a legitimate call, let them leave a 
> voice mail and I will call back.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt  
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi Larry,
> This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
> never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
> which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
> ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
> voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a 
> call from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call 
> them back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my 
> phone ever. It’s worth it to me.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Chela Robles]

I don’t have it, but I’ve read about something called UMail Perhaps I got the 
spelling of it wrong but try to google either UMail or YouMail. 
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> subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the 
> subscription increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, 
> before I decided to renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on 
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TIME: Blind People Can Hear and Feel 2024's Total Solar Eclipse With New Technology

[Chela Robles]

Hey guys, check this out! Thought this was very interesting to share with you all. Fun note this is my first time sharing an article from Apple news to email so hopefully I did this right. Using my iPhone 14 with voiceover.Blind People Can Hear and Feel 2024's Total Solar Eclipse With New TechnologyWhile eclipse watchers look to the skies, people who are blind or visually impaired will be able to hear and feel the celestial event. Sound and touch devices will be available at public gatherings on April 8, when a total solar eclipse crosses North America, the moon blotting out the sun for a few minutes. “Eclipses are very beautiful things, and everyone should be able to experience it once in their lifetime,” said Yuki Hatch, a high school senior in Austin, Texas. Hatch is a visually impairedRead in TIME: https://apple.news/A4LklMr3DRtGOaTSfBQQ9QgShared from Apple NewsSent from my iPhone



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Re: codes to send text from PC Email program to cell phones.

[Chela Robles]

That list is got to be like 20 years old. I remember Nextel! that’s when I 
turned 19 and had my first phone. Same phone number after 20 years.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2024, at 12:08 AM, 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone 
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> Hi all! How to send to Spectrum, AT, all the major players. where do I 
> find that info?
> 
> I know that the phone number is important, but the codes per provider, that 
> is what I wish.
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> THANKS
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Re: MIT Accessibility Club Blind Survey

[Chela Robles]

Thanks for sharing the Survey. I took it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> Hi Cara.  What's hack-a-phon?
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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> Hi All,
> 
> My apologies for the cross-post. As a note, While I do know folks who are 
> affiliated with this group, I am not, so I have no more info on this project 
> than the below message. I wanted to share this in case anyone is interested.
> 
> Thanks so much and have a terrific weekend!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> —
> 
> The MIT Accessibility Club is looking for feedback from blind and visually 
> impaired users of tech to help them understand some of the problems with 
> accessibility. The club works with disabled individuals to solve problems in 
> a hack-a-thon style using software and hardware. The survey can be found at:
> https://forms.gle/K5BUnM3r6rEnzJv66
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

[Chela Robles]

Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break  space.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
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Dave


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Hi
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I've
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default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
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switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

[Chela Robles]

I have also noticed a minor bug with voiceover and braille display more specifically when it comes to displaying time in general and not sure if this is a new standard but when I see the time in the clock like the current time, and also on the locked screen, I see for example, 12:34•PM displayed on the braille display. I have the e-reader from Humanware and NLS, and the Humanware Brailliant BI-X-40. Anyone notice this? Usually there is supposed to be a space between the time and whether it's AM or PM. Is this a new braille UEB rule I should take into consideration  or am I crazy? I've never seen time written like that. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
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Dave


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Hi
All
I've
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really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar.
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default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
 
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Re: Siri is having issues

[Chela Robles]

I wonder how accessible all three apps are going to be with screen reader users like with NVDA and jaws for example, they’re probably testing it with narrator since it’s built-in with it regarding windows, but I could be very wrong in that regard just was wondering what are the links for all the User manuals for these three apps, TV, music and devices. I did see the one with the devices but what about the other two or is there a main link that could just grab all three manuals from? I’m just really curious I use Windows 11 on a Dell Inspiron, 15, 5510 laptop . I’m also using NVDA latest version and Jaws 2024 latest build. And I do occasionally use narrator, but my primary is jaws, even though I have the other third-party screen reader on their non-visual desktop access.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 10, 2024, at 10:35 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I’m sure it will be temporary, and in fact, as of this minute, it is working fine again.It probably cleared up by the time I sent my message.My main point in sending that was to say, sometimes, Siri servers are acting up and you can try another service like Alexa or Google and know it is the service, not your wi-fi.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James BentleySent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 10:04 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Siri is having issues Here in East Texas, Siri is working fine.  I Hope you are only experienceing a temporary local outage. James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 12:00 PMTo: ViPone list Subject: Siri is having issues I just asked Siri a couple questions, it just made a noise that sounded like someone tapping on a metal drum, then said, something went wrong. I launched the Amazon Alexa app and asked Alexa, and got an answer. I went back to Siri and got the same noise and something went wrong. That tells me it is not my wi-fi,  but the Siri server.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3F66E659-B45B-45CF-8E50-20254FAE174D%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008501da5c4b%248d049000%24a70db000%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: About the Raycon Everyday Earbuds was Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Chela Robles]

I personally would have gone with something other than Apple AirPods, but I got those for Christmas a few years ago or at least when the second generation AirPods Pro came out not sure when that was but anyway all that being said, I probably would’ve gone with something different but I got what I got and I’m not working right now so I can’t afford to get any of these cause They all sound good but I hope whoever benefits greatly from any recommendations will make a good decision that works best for them. Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 10, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Chela mentioned Sam’s Blind Life review of the Raycon Everyday earbuds.  Below is the link to Sam’s review on Youtube.  He says they have 8 hours of play time and 32 total by charging them in their case, the case can be charged wirelessly.  USBC cable included but of course, like everyone else, no charging block.Regular price $79.99 but if you go through his site to buy them and use the code Blind Life, you get a discount.  He says the sound is very good.  Others that have reviewed them were not so high on the sound quality, but sound, as we know, is very subjective.  You have 30 days to return them.  They are the in-ear earbuds with a variety of different sized tips to fit a wide audience.They have a 1 year warranty.  I personally don’t like things in my ears, which is why I have the regular Shokz OpenRun at $90.  They probably give a solid 6 hours, and maybe more, of listening on one charge and have a 2 year warranty.Here is the link to the Blind Life review of the Everyday Earbuds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwjLbI4z20 HTH, Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Chela Robles]

Interesting have you ever heard of Raycon Everyday Earbuds? Sam from The Blind 
Life reviewed them and they seem neat as well. I own the Apple AirPods Pro, not 
sure which version but I know it has very small eartips one can install. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2024, at 3:56 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for this and I am sorely tempted to go ahead and order same.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 3:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
> 
> Someone else said they are two separate ear pieces with a hook over your ear 
> to stay on.
> This is from the web site:
> 7 hours of battery life with a single charge Up to 28 hours total listening 
> time with the charging case A quick 5-minute charge provides 1 hour of 
> listening time
> IP54 Water Resistance
> OpenFit features IP54 water resistance and is designed with a double-layer 
> waterproof steel mesh and gauze for additional protection and enhanced sound 
> performance.
> 
> You can read the entire info at:
> https://shokz.com/products/openfit
> 
> I would compare prices with Amazon.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib 
> Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 6:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
> 
> Does the Open fit come as individual pod or are these tied to each other in 
> order to prevent from falling? How do we recharge them and whats the battery 
> backup for one charge in open fit? I have open com with boom mic and its just 
> fine for calls.
> 
>> On 2/9/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> CJ,
>> I cannot speak to the OpenFit, but the OpenRun has no delay. Since you
>> can return them for a refund fairly easily with Amazon and I suspect
>> Shokz themselves, I'd give them a try. Again, I have the OpenFit ones
>> that cost about $90 that are the bone conduction that loop behind your
>> head and have the hooks like a pair of glasses that go in front of
>> your ear from the back and rest on the bone just in front of your ears.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
>> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through
>> Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:49 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It does sound like the Open Fit would be the answer for me, provided
>>> that I don't have lag when inputting text, which is the problem I
>>> have had with the other devices I've tried.
>>> Alison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 5:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hello Allison,
>>> 
>>> If you are seeking an Air Pods replacement for general indoor and
>>> outdoor use, I would definitely recommend the Open Fit model as, for
>>> all intent and purposes, they work the same as the Air Pods with the
>>> added advantage of having a tiny hook that goes behind the ear,
>>> keeping them firmly in place.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of CJ & AA MAY
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> These sound really interesting and may be just what I need.
>>> A few months ago I purchased the Apple Airpods Generation 3 and,
>>> although they meet my needs, they are really poorly designed as I
>>> struggle to keep them in my ears and would certainly not risk going
>>> outdoors with them. I have tried other airpods but found they lagged when 
>>> inputting text.
>>> So, what I'm asking Is, do you have this issue with either the Open
>>> Run Pro bone conducting Bluetooth headsets or the Open Fit model and
>>> do you have a preference? If so, why?
>>> Alison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> 

Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Chela Robles]

Yeah, I installed it and it seems pretty minor on my end. As far as features go 
I use a 14.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:08 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report?
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Asking Siri to restart this device

[Chela Robles]

It's a soft reset. Also you can tell Siri to shut down this device to turn it 
off but note you have to manually start it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 12:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> I do not find anything that specifies which it is.
> I would assume a soft reset, but you know what happens when you assume.
> I'd suggest calling apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
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> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
> Kramlinger
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Asking Siri to restart this device
> 
> Hi,
> When asking Siri to restart this device, is that a hard reset or a soft reset?
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do?

[Chela Robles]

iOS 17 introduced new sounds that’s the only thing I can come up with. But they still have the older sounds.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2023, at 7:02 AM, Rena  wrote:Do you have any idea why it changed? It happened some days after update to iOS 17. Rena  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 11:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do? Go to the Settings app go to where it says sounds and vibrations and go to where it says ringtone double tap on that and then you’ll see an option for whatever kind of tones you want. You can scroll through them and pick what that sounds good to you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, Suddenly, my iPhone SE iOS 17, has a different sound when I receive a call. The ring is too soft and short. Is there any way to have the same ring that I had before?Why did it change? Rena-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00b901da3810%242e0d80c0%248a288240%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/790F3665-3DD4-47AB-9301-EC3C33D0967D%40gmail.com.



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Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do?

[Chela Robles]

Go to the Settings app go to where it says sounds and vibrations and go to where it says ringtone double tap on that and then you’ll see an option for whatever kind of tones you want. You can scroll through them and pick what that sounds good to you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, Suddenly, my iPhone SE iOS 17, has a different sound when I receive a call. The ring is too soft and short. Is there any way to have the same ring that I had before?Why did it change? Rena



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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Chela Robles]

I second You version Bible app it works very well with a braille display. I 
usually connect my e-reader from NLS and take it obviously to church with me 
and read the Bible that way when I follow along with the congregation when the 
pastor reads certain passages.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I like Dwell.
> It is a paid app, but it offers the Bible in several versions and many kinds 
> of daily devotionals all read in human voices with several voices to choose 
> from.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:44 PM
> Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
> for iOS
> 
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
>> that amount of time so:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
>> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
>> does not have to be free.
>> 
>> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>> 
>> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
>> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
>> display.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Siri

[Chela Robles]

Hello everybody I’m just wondering if you guys have any issues with Siri in iOS 
17.2 where in you launch an app and it says it’s having difficulties. I 
restarted my phone thinking that that would solve the issue and it’s not 
solving the issue so I have to manually start my apps, or at least some of them 
like for instance the watch app. 
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Re: App to see power light?

[Chela Robles]

Hello Kimberly sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences to you. I could be 
wrong, but I thought seeing AI had a light detector in the app where it could 
emit a low tone for no light or a higher tone for recognition of light being on 
I know I can do this with my Envision glasses, but I haven’t found it in the 
app. .
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2023, at 6:20 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My husband recently died so I no longer have sighted help.  Sometimes my 
> internet goes down or I think it has.  I’m looking for an app that will 
> either tell me if the power light is on and/or what color it is.
> 
> 
> As always,
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kim
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Re: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case.

[CHELA Robles]

That is the compartment of the case that where the mute switch is for the iPhone.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 30, 2023, at 2:47 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi this is a oderbox defender case and it is round like a button. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: November 30, 2023 5:34 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case. You didn't say exactly what kind of case. But that is where the mute switch is located. On iPhone 15's that is a button. On all previous models, it is a switch/lever that when pushed jtoward the back, mutes the tones, and when push toward the screen unmutes.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Nov 30, 2023, at 2:28 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi all I just got a I phone 14 and am charging it as I speek. I have a question about one of the buttons on the case. It is round and looks like the old hedphone jackit is small and it is above the buttons for volume up and down. What does that button do? From Mich.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01da23dc%24971eb400%24c55c1c00%24%40eastlink.ca.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/85BFC24D-C674-4336-864A-DA0146CAB1A1%40comcast.net.



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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

[CHELA Robles]

Hello, that ATGuys sells a power bank maybe even a couple of them that have 
beeping and vibration functions. They are the ones by Innergrid.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
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> Hi, All:
> 
> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
> 
> I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I have an 
> Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product, but if there 
> is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader Stream 2 or VRS 3, 
> that would be great.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Margaret
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Re: Be My Eyes Refusing to Open

[CHELA Robles]

According to AppleVis, it's a bug. Hopefully several people have written them 
about it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2023, at 6:04 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> Last night I attempted to use Be My AI to describe a photo, and Be My
> Eyes told me I had "reached my quota" and to check my plan. I checked
> the app store and there was an update, so I assumed that would fix the
> problem. Once the app updated, it started refusing to open at all--I
> would double tap on the app and absolutely nothing would happen. I
> have already uninstalled and reinstalled the app. Is this happening to
> anyone else?
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Re: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

[CHELA Robles]

It’s actually part of Be My Eyes I believe at least that’s how I’ve always been 
able to activate the AI feature where it describes photos.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
> the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
> of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy 
> to miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that 
> before you hear that it's an edit field.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
> Armstrong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
> have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.
> 
> If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
> download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.
> 
> When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address 
> to create an account.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
> Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up 
> like in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured 
> in the AI Category
> 
> By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Michele Paris
> 
> Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, 
> was mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
>   
> thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
> features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and 
> ideas, that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".
> 
> "Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
> in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
> people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
> needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
> Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
> incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for 
> people of all abilities."
> 
> This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
> officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 
> blind people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions 
> daily to the AI-powered tool.
> 
> "The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
> been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole 
> new way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, 
> who has been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now 
> have the ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that 
> were once unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant 
> impact on our lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable 
> support."
> 
> Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
> already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
> is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It 
> is already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in 
> the Be My Eyes app.
> 
> To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
>  , X 
> 
>  , Facebook  , Instagram 
>  , Mastodon 
>   and TikTok 
>  .
> 
> See the full list of 2023 TIME Best 

Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

[CHELA Robles]

I hate it when siri doesn't finish confirmation of messages I send to people, 
it beeps prior and cuts itself off midsentence so I feel I have to manually 
send it either using dictation or braille screen input. It’s been doing that 
ever since I upgraded to iOS 17 and I have iOS 17.1 now. Any Anybody having 
this issue where Siri cuts itself off? Are there any solutions around it? Has 
Has this bug been reported to Apple?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 11:36 AM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hmm, Siri the dumbest and the most expensive, where did I see that? Oh yes, 
> Las Vegas! Viva Las Vegas!
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
> Elbert Hubbard
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Re: iPhone 12 pro + messenger

[CHELA Robles]

I highly doubt that they will, though Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2023, at 9:30 AM, Afik Souffir  wrote:








It’s a bug in Messenger and Meta need to fix it.

 

 

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Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages
 it’s weird thing it’s it’s 





Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages it’s weird thing it’s it’s
 been updated and all that stuff it’s weird in my opinion.

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On Oct 16, 2023, at 7:21 AM, Ann M Medlar <amedl...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi all,
I open messenger and have messages going back over 10 years.  Never saw them before today.
I did send message back 10 years ago but no idea why they are showing up now.
Any gesture to go to bottom of messages in messenger?
I believe I am at bottom.  
VO states 
11 pages 100% adjustable 
TabBar selected chats  
Last message before this is dated October 4 2009
Thanks,
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Re: iPhone 12 pro + messenger

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Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages it’s weird thing it’s it’s been updated and all that stuff it’s weird in my opinion.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2023, at 7:21 AM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:Hi all,I open messenger and have messages going back over 10 years.  Never saw them before today.I did send message back 10 years ago but no idea why they are showing up now.Any gesture to go to bottom of messages in messenger?I believe I am at bottom.  VO states 11 pages 100% adjustable TabBar selected chats  Last message before this is dated October 4 2009Thanks,Ann Any ideas how this happened?  



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Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

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I rebooted my phone. Not sure if you guys were able to get my audio demonstration but here it is.Voiceover Native Mail App Issue IOS17 Iphone 14.m4adropbox.comSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:I use the "Mark as Read" option all the time and have no issues with it reading anything in a strange way.Maybe try and reboot your phone.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encounteredRunning IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it sounds. It doesn’t matter what voice you use by the way I’ve used to them all in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, just thought I’d let you know.Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/79349500-76B4-4FE6-92CC-2665CC9B0748%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56563059197397566A607653C7FAA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

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Running IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in 
a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as 
read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate 
that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds 
like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the 
letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are 
all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just 
for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it 
sounds. It doesn’t matter what voice you use by the way I’ve used to them all 
in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least 
this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, 
just thought I’d let you know.
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Re: Check out this Be My Eyes Blog

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Very interesting indeed, Malcolm.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2023, at 3:52 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> Hey there,
> I just read a cool blog on Be My Eyes and wanted to send it your way! Give it 
> a read.
> 
> ' Story: Image to Text AI and Blurred Faces: What’s Going On?
> https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/image-to-text-ai-and-blurred-faces-whats-going-on?fbclid=IwAR01TmNb8QezfUyTMqJkvDYgXwkVCayTWea7jaRv-gRFgC2sbRziTmIkOsw_aem_AU15WHXN4QPZZ6knxPdIBJDg1bO1IFU9kR-g4dNlEb8S_5kfFDySwih-nqH7HqAg_Mc
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

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Here are my thoughts.
I think it’s fine to look at photos with them, but it would be great to know 
how many people are in the photos now whether it’s a man or a woman, it doesn’t 
really matter to me as long as I can figure out what the faces actually look 
like or at least try to find a particular photo which I actually did find 
before they went ahead and changed everything. I wanted to find a photo of me 
personally looking at all the instruments on top of this wall that has cork 
patterns. It’s really really cool and voiceover just says  Woman, spotlight, 
trumpet, saxophone and that’s about it but what it did say with be, my AI was a 
lot more descriptive. It actually described what I was wearing and the color of 
my hair and that I was actually wearing glasses and was feeling various 
instruments and it started to name some instruments, and then it said  That 
there were cork patterns from wine bottles and this was the one I really wanted 
to know about because I wanted to share it with a particular person and they 
thought it was really cool that I was able to locate it successfully on my own. 
And that was just my camera roll and my camera roll has a lot of photos. 
Obviously I wouldn’t want it to say oh look this is Chela Robles that would be 
a little creepy. It would also be creepy if it found out that I was straight 
and not a lesbian. I mean it wouldn’t technically know, but I’m just saying…
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2023, at 1:54 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
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> My feeling is that a sighted person can take a photo and then see the face, 
> whether or not the person gave their permission. These apps as far as I know 
> won't identify people, merely describe them, so what is wrong with that?
> Alison
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> -Original Message-
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> If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
> Seeing and other similar apps should do facial recognition. I get it that 
> many people don't want to have their face recognized and I don't think blind 
> people's right to have faces recognized trumps the public's rights not to 
> have theirs recognized.
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Fwd: [Tech-VI] OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition

[CHELA Robles]

Title: OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition
Greetings everybody please let me know if you receive this message or at least one person. Please let me know if this message came through. This is very important to read regarding the facial recognition. The issue that we’ve all been having with Be My Eyes or be my AI. I got this from David Goldfield.Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: David Goldfield Date: September 18, 2023 at 2:38:17 AM PDTTo: List Subject: [Tech-VI] OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognitionReply-To: tech...@groups.io







https://the-decoder.com/openai-doesnt-want-gpt-4-to-be-used-for-facial-recognition/






OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition

Matthias
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 19, 2023





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Multimodal models can recognize images and describe their content. This includes images of people, which could prove problematic.
The New York Times reports that OpenAI currently masks faces in images and does not allow

GPT-4 to process them with image recognition.
This particularly affects blind people, who are using GPT-4 with image enhancement in the

"Be My Eyes" experiment to get detailed descriptions of the environment as well as people. The description of the environment is still available, but the description of the people has recently been disabled and the faces on the images are blurred.
GPT-4 with image capabilities can recognize prominent people, such as OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, of whom it has seen many images in AI training. GPT-4 will not recognize people who do not appear in many images available on the Internet.
As a result, its identification and monitoring capabilities are nowhere near as extensive as those of AI systems such as

Clearview AI or PimEyes, which are optimized for this scenario and can identify people in images based on fine details.
Beyond identification, however, OpenAI faces more problems when analyzing faces: Even if the person in an image is unknown, he or she can be described and associated with the wrong gender or emotional state, for example.
With hundreds of millions of users, this could lead to numerous complaints. In addition, the image analysis is said to be strong enough to

bypass common captcha systems.
Misidentifications, where the model correctly identifies a person's role as CEO, for example, but assigns the wrong name to that role, are also possible, says Sandhini Agarwal, OpenAI policy researcher.
"We very much want this to be a two-way conversation with the public. If what we hear is like, ‘We actually don’t want any of it,’ that’s something we’re very on board with," says Agarwal.

Microsoft and Google also block facial recognition
Google's chatbot Bard also offers image analysis. Currently,
 Bard refuses to make statements about images of known and unknown people and deletes an uploaded image of a person without further inquiry. Google's Lens visual search, on the other hand, recognizes an image of Sam Altman and correctly identifies him.
Microsoft
 is also integrating visual image search into Bing Chat. After uploading an image of a person, Bing Chat indicates that the image will be blurred "for privacy reasons." However, the chatbot will offer recommendations on how to find the person through Google
 Images, social media, or TinEyes.





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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

[CHELA Robles]

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Ugg.I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed and re-opened the app and fictures worked. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was open for us to peruse and report issues.  I’ll give you an example. I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better! Get Outlook for iOSFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?  Hello, There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis. The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something to do with Open AI themselves. I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike anything we’ve ever known! Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to shame! Take a look at:   Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game Changing Real-World Use Casesapplevis.com Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I wrote to complain about that. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> wrote: I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last time. Here is the email address again to write into.supp...@bemyeyes.com On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote: I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. Best regards.Jerry Mader On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is light grey.This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it started doing this? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &quo

Re: Be My Eyes and cards

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Hey Richard, I wrote to the developer. Hopefully I will hear back sometime 
regarding this issue. That’s weird because it used to work very well and now 
it’s just crazy. I don’t know why they changed it or maybe somethings wrong 
with the AI server. Not on their end? I’ll keep you posted I promise.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Richard Turner  
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> I just received a card in the mail. My wife read it to me, then I decided to 
> see what Be My Eyes would do with it. It is amazing! It read the text which 
> was in a cursive font. Then I took a picture of the inside of the card where 
> the people had written a message. It read it perfectly! And, the person 
> writing had put a heart before the signature and it even described the heart. 
> Now, if they would unblock pictures of people, it would be a perfect app. 
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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

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I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
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> sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
> rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the 
> last time. Here is the email address again to write into.
> supp...@bemyeyes.com
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader  wrote:
>> 
>> I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
>> and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I 
>> think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be 
>> my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to 
>> think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least 
>> you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much 
>> feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really 
>> hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just 
>> recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like 
>> now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very 
>> very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI 
>> should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. 
>> Best regards.
>> Jerry Mader
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in 
>>> describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying 
>>> that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a 
>>> placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it 
>>> may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is 
>>> light grey.
>>> This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as 
>>> be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it 
>>> started doing this? 
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

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Well, I upgraded from series 5 to the ultra that sleeps bigger than what I had. 
I only wish I had kept my Milanese loop because I like that loop but I know I 
can find other loops or sport watch type of bands on Amazon cheaper than an 
apple. I like the trail loop that I have. It’s the trail loop band. It has 
Velcro it’s nice but I wish I had a second band. Maybe I’ll buy one a metal one 
or something.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:25 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
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> The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to me
> isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is
> different though.
> 
>> On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple
>> Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and
>> battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
>> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting
>> such a large watch?
>> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately
>> isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700
>> miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple
>> Watch here mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these
>> stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of
>> our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be
>> willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15
>> minutes.
>> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000
>> where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I
>> have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the
>> only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me
>> by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow
>> to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to
>> say about especially if you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and
>> upgraded to an Ultra last year.
>> 
>> 
>> Take care,
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

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I have one and I really like it and if this one ever dies on me, I would buy another one but I’d have to save up for that first so the long answer is save up first then buy it unless there are installment plans which I don’t think there are I had to save up for my Apple Watch Ultra locally I still have AppleCare for it and I pay $4.99 a month for AppleCare. Bought it for my birthday this year.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly
 in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received
 an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy
 with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if you may have had a regular
 Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last year.
 
 
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Re: ResMed10 App?

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Does your phone support screen recognition? If so, turn it on and navigate around the app and see what happens when you double tap on the agree button or checkbox. Screen recognition when using voiceover is found in the rotor.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 24, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







Hi, Group.
I got my first ever CPAP machine and it is ResMed10.
I have download its app, myAir from the AppStore but I am having difficulty with agreeing with their terms I can not find the checkbox to check.
May I know how can I access the line/checkbox where I can give my consent with the app?
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Re: How do you take a photo with the iPhone?

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Well, I kind of use a tripod so that way it holds the phone study and then I go to the Camera app and then I go to photo and then voiceover starts babbling on about zero faces. If it sees faces, then I would switch to the back camera in order to focus on the hard drive and then press the  take picture button Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 21, 2023, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:







Hi.
 
I’m attempting to exchange a defective SSD. Sabrent wants pictures of it. I have no idea how to do that. I’d like to know what to do to make them happy.
 
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Re: A Proglem Unique to Blind People

[CHELA Robles]

I am totally blind myself, but I turned off the attention awareness thing, so I didn’t quite understand what that meant and what that did and I read much earlier before this thread when I first got this iPhone 14 when I had questions a long time ago on this list I think Richard or somebody I don’t know who responded directly to me or right away within like five minutes of my sending my message about Face ID in the first place they told me to turn off the attention awareness feature which I did, and I haven’t had any issues since then the only times I’ve had issues is if I’m laying in bed a And I’m not looking directly at the phone or once in a while I’ll have to get it on the second attempt when I’m sitting up or standing when I’m opening my patelco mobile app which has some unlabeled buttons but I’m trying to work with them on that as far as accessibility goes lol but anyway all that being said, I get it usually in the second attempt, but when I set up the Face ID for the first time, I did not know what I was doing so I ended up getting one of those stands that hold the phone in place  Your kind of like a tripod kind of deal that was magnetic friendly and then I just looked straight into the phone that way with my glasses and without my glasses so I could capture my face that way. Only took roughly 3 to 5 minutes to figure that out when I first set it up going from an iPhone 8 plus to an iPhone 14 was definitely a little learning curve but I figured it out , and if I can figure it out, I’m sure you can figure it out. Have a great day. I hope this helps. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2023, at 3:16 PM, Agent086B  wrote:Hi,from what I have read we all do this slightly different. I just pick up the phone off a desk or out of my pocket and hold it about 18 inches or more from my face on a slide angle  so the camera points to my face not my belly.I do have attention aware turned on as it is better security. I should say I am a total.Max.On 1 Aug 2023, at 21:01, Sandra Finley  wrote:I hate to admit this, but if I can’t ask fellow blind folks, then what is the point of a list like this? I have never mastered the use of facial recognition. I was able to follow the directions given to set up face ID fine. The problem I continue to have  is how to hold my phone up to my face  so that my fade is recognized. Several months ato I just stopped trying and have been using my password  instead, but I am  now determined to figure this out.  How did some of you  learn how to do this? Sandy  Finley -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02a901d9c467%2477780450%2466680cf0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: "Handoff" between iOS and MS-Windows

[CHELA Robles]

Weird that’s happening to you Richard from USA because I have a dell Inspiron laptop and it’s not having that issue with mine. Then again I toggled off the Dell mobile app in the first place, and the phone link app works.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 30, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:The issue is that the Dell Mobile Connect blocks  the  phone link app from working.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 30, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I don’t have a Dell, but all I did was bring up the Phone Link application on my PC and followed the prompts, one of which was using code reader in the control panel on my iPhone to read the QR code on the screen. After that, I think I
 just had to allow access to a few things.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Handoff" between iOS and MS-Windows


 
You have to be sure you connected the iPhone over bluetooth to the comfuter.

 


You also should reboot after removing the Dell mobile connect drivers.


For me, it just worked after doing that.


 


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On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:02 AM, Albert Brown  wrote:




Hello Richard,
I am still struggling with the handsoff windows link.
I have the dell laptop, and removed the dell mobile app.
How did you manage to get it working .

ALBERT

JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2023.2306.38

MICROSOFT WINDOWS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (built 22621.1848)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard

Turner
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Handoff" between iOS and MS-Windows

Thanks William,

That is the app I downloaded.

I will try again and see if it works.









Richard, USA.

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
t."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William

James
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Richard, here you are sir!







Link to Windows 

Link your phone and PC 






Sent from my iPhone Pro Max





   On Jul 28, 2023, at 4:48?PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:

   ?

   Well, according to a page from Microsoft, the iOS app is supposed to now be 
called "Microsoft Phone Link.

   However, the only app I can find in the iOS app store is Link to Windows. 
When I tried setting it up, it told me some app was preventing me from making 
calls on my Android device.



   I have nothing Android in my house.



   Do you have a link to the correct app, and or some hints about getting it set 
up?

   My computer shows that I have connected to my phone over Bluetooth.









   Richard, USA.

   "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
t."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



   My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

 > On Behalf Of

Sieghard Weitzel
   Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 8:52 AM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   Subject: RE: "Handoff" between iOS and MS-Windows



   You need the "PhoneLink" app on a Windows 11 PC and the "Link to Windows" app 
on your iPhone.

   PhoneLink should already be on your computer if it's updated to the latest 
Windows 11 version and Link to Windows of course has to be downloaded from the 
App Store on your iPhone, it does not work with an iPad (or at least not yet).

   Here is one article, you find many if you Google it:



   Phone Link for iOS is now rolling out to all Windows 11 customers 




   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

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Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

[CHELA Robles]

Wow! It really does work I just tested it out! It didn’t take long to set it up either.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 28, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Thanks William,That is the app I downloaded.I will try again and see if it works…Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows Richard, here you are sir! Link to WindowsLink your phone and PC  Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 28, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, according to a page from Microsoft, the iOS app is supposed to now be called "Microsoft Phone Link.However, the only app I can find in the iOS app store is Link to Windows.  When I tried setting it up, it told me some app was preventing me from making calls on my Android device… I have nothing Android in my house. Do you have a link to the correct app, and or some hints about getting it set up?My computer shows that I have connected to my phone over Bluetooth…Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 8:52 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows You need the "PhoneLink" app on a Windows 11 PC and the "Link to Windows" app on your iPhone.PhoneLink should already be on your computer if it's updated to the latest Windows 11 version and Link to Windows of course has to be downloaded from the App Store on your iPhone, it does not work with an iPad (or at least not yet).Here is one article, you find many if you Google it: Phone Link for iOS is now rolling out to all Windows 11 customers From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill GallikSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:39 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows OK, I suppose I could look for this on the web, but seems there’s a couple of folks out here who know all about this PhoneLink.  So is this software that Goetz andSo is this software that gets installed on the iPhone or the Windows computer? Or, is there a version on both systems to allow for a handshake? I may as well ask, where can I read up on this?  - Sent from Bill's iPhone 8 (iOS 16.6) via Google Mail-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B97B7C4D-1110-4EB8-8981-234290E57952%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656212BD8AAAF6DEB761647C706A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 

Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[CHELA Robles]

Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or miss but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s a blue color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT I have the eSIM instead of a physical Sim.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO 
PHONE SETTINGS. An option to choose where the audio from voicemail 
goes.  OPTION WHERE 

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  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 
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  Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
  Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m 
  talking about is for iOs. :)
  
  Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:A VoiceOver 
  gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the 
  composed message. Instead of locating the send button.A VoiceOver 
  gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want 
  something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, 
  flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by 
  letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.Those are two little 
  things off the top of my head. :)Take care,Traci
  
  
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

I agree with Ed. Also, David coupons messages when reading with voiceover sounds like it’s in another language even though it’s technically an English it’s reading in a different text to speech voice and it sounds really weird. Even though, I have my language automatically set to English and I have an English voice. Perhaps he used a non-English keyboard to write in English I don’t know, but anyway, hopefully they’ll fix it. At least the Apple will hopefully fix the braille issue they usually do. If people nicely report this to Apple accessibility.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:Hello,While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your rant.Thanks for listening,EdOn May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM,   wrote:And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the dictation inconveniences!Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5 You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.com   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi, I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing? I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6. Best,Anna On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: Yep, that’s it.Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blogOn May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote: Hello.I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing someproblems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issuesand I'm not aware?ScottOn 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:FolksFor brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Appleaccessibility NOW, do it NOW!The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not workas they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!Davy--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or ifyou feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners ormoderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005c01d98cbc%24ef261150%24cd7233f0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark 

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I already have 16.5.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next page.JennJenn and KumiOn May 22, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.comHttps://devinprater.micro.blog

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:Hello.I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing someproblems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issuesand I'm not aware?ScottOn 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:FolksFor brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Appleaccessibility NOW, do it NOW!The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not workas they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!Davy--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or ifyou feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners ormoderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005c01d98cbc%24ef261150%24cd7233f0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPSSVsQoSv55cKTt9CYT5VovUZ1FEMqQEJmnr8fXS-CtgALeOA%40mail.gmail.com.

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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

The app Sero has audio described content as well and you can pay $5.99 a month 
to access them. But I do like the Spectrum Access app. I just have to remember 
to use wired headphones instead of Bluetooth headphones because when I use 
Bluetooth headphones, I’ve noticed it doesn’t really sync up very well.

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I haven't tried it yet myself, but a friend recommended a website with all 
> available a.d. films called something like audiovault.com
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for 
> iOS, Please Help
> 
> Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
> you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
> headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results 
> with the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to 
> syncing when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any 
> dictation errors. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
>>> acquired it. Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if 
>>> activated in range of a actively playing movie, on an external media 
>>> device such as a television, would play the audio description for 
>>> that movie on the iOS device.
>>> 
>>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a 
>>> few years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Sounds similar to blind mice mega Mall movie vault.

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I haven't tried it yet myself, but a friend recommended a website with all 
> available a.d. films called something like audiovault.com
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for 
> iOS, Please Help
> 
> Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
> you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
> headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results 
> with the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to 
> syncing when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any 
> dictation errors. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
>>> acquired it. Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if 
>>> activated in range of a actively playing movie, on an external media 
>>> device such as a television, would play the audio description for 
>>> that movie on the iOS device.
>>> 
>>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a 
>>> few years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results with 
the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to syncing 
when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any dictation 
errors. 

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
> acquired it. Hope this helps.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone, 
>> 
>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if activated in 
>> range of a actively playing movie, on an external media device such as a 
>> television, would play the audio description for that movie on the iOS 
>> device.  
>> 
>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a few 
>> years back and am now wondering if the app still exists. 
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Spectrum access

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 5:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if activated in
> range of a actively playing movie, on an external media device such as a
> television, would play the audio description for that movie on the iOS
> device.  
> 
> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a few
> years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of 
>>> the time on 20 April 2021.
>>> 
>>> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately 
>>> makes the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 
>>> years ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a 
>>> stop to the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used 
>>> throughout the 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use 
>>> less accurate. On the GPS website it says " The United States has no 
>>> intent to ever use Selective Availability again.".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi 
>>> band"
>>> and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches 
>>> already have this.
>>> 
>>> Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS?
>>> 
>>> Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands 
>>> and allow for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when 
>>> using the device in challenging environments.
>>> 
>>> This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each 
>>> satellite on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by 
>>> environmental interference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models?
>>> 
>>> • More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the 
>>> device in challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in 
>>> urban canyons as well as tree cover)
>>> 
>>> • Can achieve accuracy within about +/- 2 meters or 6 feet under 
>>> ideal conditions versus the +/- 3 meters or 10 feet accuracy of other 
>>> models
>>> 
>>> • Detect (and reject) reflected satellite signals better than a 
>>> single frequency receiver which improves accuracy
>>> 
>>> • Better equipped to account for and correct errors that can be 
>>> introduced by atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors)
>>> 
>>> NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, 
>>> QZSS, BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not 
>>> available in all areas of the globe.
>>> 
>>> For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, 
>>> but it seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more 
>>> from the regular models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 
>>> Ultra although I also read that this may possibly what Apple will 
>>> call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and they will give it even more features 
>>> or make it tougher than the regular iPhone
>>> 15 Pro.
>>> 
>>> I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any 
>>> iPhone in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy 
>>> especially not in the places where most people live like cities with 
>>> tall buildings and many sources of potential interference. For now 
>>> the next big reveal will be iOS
>>> 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start.
>>> Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, 
>>> September 12 or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although 
>>> most rumours will have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a 
>>> spectacular upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 
>>> 10 to 20 times the transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. 
>>> It will be the first smart phone with a three nanometer processor, 
>>> delivering blazing fast speeds. It may also have dual channel 
>>> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch 
>>> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was in all iPhones 
>>> before the 14

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple Watch fifth 
generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I saved up enough money, 
thinking about getting the ultra because of a bigger screen, and the fact that 
it has two speakers and tactile buttons. If I type it right if I get it or 
rather if I purchase it on April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is 
April 6. This is definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end 
up with, I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and 
greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you. I 
hope it works out for you. Good luck.

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> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
> least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
> totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
> feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. 
> I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
> like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
>> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
>> instead.
>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro 
>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip 
>> in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same 
>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR 
>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time 
>> goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to 
>> have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro 
>> phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 
>> 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and 
>> the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR 
>> sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind 
>> person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. 
>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in 
>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
>> in this family. 
>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
>> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. I 
never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
> instead.
> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max 
> did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip in a 
> new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same processor as 
> the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR sensor 
> which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time goes 
> by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to have a 
> phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro phone, the 
> first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro 
> phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same 
> applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and 
> the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person you 
> are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. Also you 
> probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in Canada 
> they are becoming a bit harder to find.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
> 
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
> in this family. 
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
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Re: Oops. Audioeye?

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I don’t work for them anymore. They hated the fact that I wasn’t too 
technical enough for them. I did base my feedback on my thoughts on how 
websites should be accessible but anyway that’s a different kind of worms to 
open or rather balls to

SentWell, I don’t work for them anymore. They hated the fact that I wasn’t too 
technical enough for them. I did base my feedback on my thoughts on how 
websites should be accessible but anyway that’s a different can of worms to 
open or rather balls to dodge.
 Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you provide a link to a website which is using AudioEye?
> My website uses another such services called "Accessiby" and typically there 
> is not really anything you need to learn, you just press a keyboard shortcut 
> which should be announced or there could be a button or buttons like "Enable 
> Accessibility for Visually Impaired" and which makes the website more 
> accessible.
> Here is an example:
> 
> https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/
> 
> If you look near the top of the site, you find the following:
> 
> Enable accessibility for visually impaired   Button   
> Open the accessibility menu   Button   
> Open the Accessible Navigation Menu   Button   
> Accessibility Menu   Button   
> Close the accessibility menu   Button   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Oops. Audioeye?
> 
> Thanks Chela,
> 
> Can you tell me how to use Audioeye?I’d like to ignore it but it seems to get 
> in my way.  
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 5:58 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> It means that the website has the AudioEye accessible overlay. The owners 
>> of the website is under contract with that particular company to make the 
>> website follow accessible guidelines. How I know this is because I used to 
>> work for AudioEye testing for screenreader useability. I don’t anymore, 
>> though I am solely focused on trying to get certified as a literary braille, 
>> transcriber and proofreader through the national library service for the 
>> print disabled and the national Federation of the Blind. Workin Working for 
>> that company testing websites was only for a season for me eight months. At 
>> least I made enough to get myself a new Apple Watch for my birthday this 
>> year.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 3:42 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
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>>> Oops.  I just arrowed through the spelling and it’s not A I but rather 
>>> Audioeye.  At any rate, what is this and what do I do with it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kim
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Re: Oops. Audioeye?

[CHELA Robles]

It means that the website has the AudioEye accessible overlay. The owners of 
the website is under contract with that particular company to make the website 
follow accessible guidelines. How I know this is because I used to work for 
AudioEye testing for screenreader useability. I don’t anymore, though I am 
solely focused on trying to get certified as a literary braille, transcriber 
and proofreader through the national library service for the print disabled and 
the national Federation of the Blind. Workin Working for that company testing 
websites was only for a season for me eight months. At least I made enough to 
get myself a new Apple Watch for my birthday this year.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2023, at 3:42 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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> Oops.  I just arrowed through the spelling and it’s not A I but rather 
> Audioeye.  At any rate, what is this and what do I do with it?
> 
> Thanks,
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> Kim
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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[CHELA Robles]

Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took a 
chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a little 
spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps usable. 
When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, whether I 
use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps to 
make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of right now 
I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible accordion 
type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re looking for and 
even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings option, nothing 
happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows side of things, 
creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback there, so I will if 
by permission keep you guys updated if something were to come out of this if 
not well at least I could at least give my feedback in general, but it would be 
a shame for them not to have any screen reader users on board in my opinion, 
but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. Just thought I’d let you 
all know what’s going on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
> 
> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
> 
> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
> 
> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
> that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since 
> I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
> Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
> 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
> also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
> computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
> accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
> 
> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
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Re: A very short bit of humor

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I just did the same sort of test with it with other Siri voices, and it does the same thing lol! it’s so cute to hear Siri actually sigh. I will be hearing this in the back of my brain whenever I encounter any issues siri sighing! :-) Who knew Apple really does have a sense of humor!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 19, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Richard Turner  wrote: If you haven’t run into it, here is a very short audio file of VoiceOver reading part of an email preview using Siri voice 4.I cut out any identifying information from the email. http://www.turner42.com/SiriSighing.mp3 Enjoy,Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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Re: accessible bluetooth elliptical equipment

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Fascinating. I will give this site a good peruse  once I have my own place. I’m sure by then they’ll have much more that I can choose from.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 8:20 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:While not an elliptical, Concept2: https://www.concept2.com/ makes a SkiERG. I have the rowERG and am probably going to get the BikeERG when our current recumbent bike gives up the ghost which will be most likely sooner than later. They all make use of their little PM5 device which is used to measure your progress through their app which is completely iOS accessible. The app went a major overhaul and redesign around the middle of last year with the input of the ACB. Not that using the rower and accessing my workouts before the app redesign was impossible, but it took a lot more work with memorization of button pressing sequences on the actual PM5 whereas now, I can do more or less I want everything from within the app as well as review my workout results after every row etc. The same idea should apply for the exercise machines as well. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:55 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: accessible bluetooth eliptical equipment I do not know of one, but I do know that my mom got one due to being a real estate agent someone was giving it away but then they changed their mind and how to pay half of what it cost and it is the Sole E55 it is an older model and I had to have an overlay that was tactile made by halos tactile overlays and I paid nearly $100 for that to happen in order to make it accessible enough. I’m not aware of any Bluetooth on it it’s just simple it does have a fan as well. We only paid $600 for it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 2:43 PM, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  wrote:I would be extremely interested infinding this information out as well. I use the elliptical in the gym where I live, but it’s a touchscreen, and I have a difficult time with the settings. I especially would like to change the resistance to make the workout more of a challenge, but I am not able to do this with the elliptical’s they have here.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Dan  wrote: Hi all, I normally walk our road for exercise.  However, far too many homes have been built over the past few years and people are driving much too fast on our road for it to be safe any longer.  I have started using an old elliptical we have had for several years.  It has no bluetooth interface and is starting to have some other issues mechanically. Do any of you know of any elliptical equipment that has accessible bluetooth apps?  My wife would like us to get something like this so I can keep track of my accomplishments independently. Thanks for any info.   -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9f4c3841-d6a0-af67-ad2e-9bb163f1b3c3%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B92FDF1A-C294-4BEB-8B66-F046D99CF3B7%40icloud.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is 

Re: accessible bluetooth eliptical equipment

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I do not know of one, but I do know that my mom got one due to being a real estate agent someone was giving it away but then they changed their mind and how to pay half of what it cost and it is the Sole E55 it is an older model and I had to have an overlay that was tactile made by halos tactile overlays and I paid nearly $100 for that to happen in order to make it accessible enough. I’m not aware of any Bluetooth on it it’s just simple it does have a fan as well. We only paid $600 for it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 2:43 PM, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  wrote:I would be extremely interested infinding this information out as well. I use the elliptical in the gym where I live, but it’s a touchscreen, and I have a difficult time with the settings. I especially would like to change the resistance to make the workout more of a challenge, but I am not able to do this with the elliptical’s they have here.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Dan  wrote:
  


  
  
Hi all,


I normally walk our road for exercise. 
However, far too many homes have been built over the past few
years and people are driving much too fast on our road for it to
be safe any longer.  I have started using an old elliptical we
have had for several years.  It has no bluetooth interface and
is starting to have some other issues mechanically.

  
Do any of you know of any elliptical
equipment that has accessible bluetooth apps?  My wife would
like us to get something like this so I can keep track of my
accomplishments independently.

  
Thanks for any info.

  
  

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Re: Listen up ladies (and maybe some guys)

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You just answered your own question. Also, I don’t like having my ears pierced. I tried it once decided to let the holes close up. also, my hair kept getting caught in the earrings. it tightened them up.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 15, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







What do you mean by your ears turn colors? If you mean your ears get discoloured then I can see how this could happen with silver or various other metals, but pure gold simply will not react that
 way.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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I cannot wear earrings due to the fact that my ears turn colors, so I think I would pass on that.

Sent from my iPhone






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Well here is your next fashion statement although it sounds like the weight might be such that if you wear these all the time your ears may start to look more and more like those of Spock or Mr. Tuvok!
 
These are real earrings and also real earbuds - Nova’s audio earrings are made with real pearls, and have built-in speakers that transmit
 audio up and into your ear
 
I am still waiting for ocular prosthetics which have speakers facing my brain and cameras facing out, where are Elon Musk's ideas when we need them. Maybe when he's done ruining Twitter he'll listen.
 
 
Best regards,
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Re: Listen up ladies (and maybe some guys)

[CHELA Robles]

I cannot wear earrings due to the fact that my ears turn colors, so I think I would pass on that.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 15, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Well here is your next fashion statement although it sounds like the weight might be such that if you wear these all the time your ears may start to look more and more like those of Spock or Mr. Tuvok!
 
These are real earrings and also real earbuds - Nova’s audio earrings are made with real pearls, and have built-in speakers that transmit
 audio up and into your ear
 
I am still waiting for ocular prosthetics which have speakers facing my brain and cameras facing out, where are Elon Musk's ideas when we need them. Maybe when he's done ruining Twitter he'll listen.
 
 
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Re: iPhone Battery Capacities Compared: all iPhones Battery Life in mAH and WH, Macworld

[CHELA Robles]

Now I'm definitely curious about Apple Watch batteries. I wonder if they will 
come out with an article comparing watch batteries from the first series to the 
Ultra. Thanks for sharing this article about phone batteries. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:50 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Interestingly, the article did not mention the battery on the iPhone SE 
> second and third generation. I recently upgraded from the iPhone 10R to the 
> Iphone SE third generation. It has the same processor as the Iphone 13, I 
> definitely think this phone fits better in the pocket, it looks exactly like 
> the Iphone 8, one common thing that is mentioned in reviews of this phone is 
> the shorter battery life and I agree with that, the battery definitely goes 
> faster than it did in my 10R. Fortunately there is a great solution for that, 
> Mophie still makes a juice pack battery case for this phone and it doubles 
> the battery life so I have the best of both worlds, a nice pocket form factor 
> and great battery life, for anyone looking to upgrade their Iphone, I would 
> give the Iphone SE some consideration, I love mine.
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2023, at 9:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Macworld
>> Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:45 PM
>> 
>> iPhone battery capacities compared: all iPhones battery life in mAh and Wh
>> 
>> Here we list and explain the battery capacities of every iPhone from 2007’s
>> original iPhone to the very latest iPhone 14 series.
>> Measuring iPhone battery life in straight hours of real-world usage (as
>> Apple likes to do) is not an accurate metric for comparison purposes as so
>> many use and environmental factors play a part.
>> We can, however, rely on straight technical specifications to tell us the
>> battery capacities of each iPhone.
>> 
>> Apple is notoriously secretive about these battery specifications, mainly
>> because smartphones from rivals such as Samsung boast much larger battery
>> capacities.
>> These are measured in either Milliamp Hours (mAh) or Watt Hours (Wh).
>> Milliamp hours are a measure of electrical charge, while a watt-hour is
>> equal to one watt of energy consumed for one hour of time. And it is energy
>> consumed that matters when we’re measuring actual battery life.
>> 
>> Wh is a more accurate and consistent way to compare the total amount of
>> energy that similar types of batteries can store.
>> And it’s all about the battery voltage, which mAh ignores, which determines
>> the wattage (power) of a battery.
>> 
>> If the mAh is the same, the higher the voltage, the greater the actual
>> stored power.
>> Volts (V) are a measure of electric pressure. Amps (A) are a measure of
>> current. Multiply V x A and you get Watts (W) that are a measure of power.
>> So V × A = W.
>> You can convert watt hours (Wh) to milliamp hours (mAh) using this formula:
>> (Wh x 1,000) divided by V = mAh.
>> 
>> The lithium batteries that power most portable electronics have a voltage of
>> about 3.6V, but some external battery packs (such as Apple’s 7.62V MagSafe
>> Battery Pack) boast a higher voltage, which means they actually carry more
>> power than their mAh implies.
>> 
>> Here we list the battery capacity of every iPhone ever released in both mAh
>> and Wh.
>> iPhone battery capacities
>> iPhone:   1400mAh5.18Wh
>> iPhone 3G: 1150mAh4.25Wh
>> iPhone 3GS:   1200mAh4.44Wh
>> iPhone 4:1420mAh5.3Wh
>> iPhone 4s1432mAh5.3Wh
>> iPhone 5:1440mAh5.45Wh
>> iPhone 5c   1510mAh5.73Wh
>> iPhone 5s:   1560mAh5.92Wh
>> iPhone 6:1810mAh   6.9Wh
>> iPhone 6s:   1715mAh   6.91Wh
>> iPhone 6s Plus:  2750mAh10.45Wh
>> iPhone SE:  1624mAh   6.21Wh
>> iPhone 7:1960mAh   7.45Wh
>> iPhone 7 Plus:2900mAh11.1Wh
>> iPhone 8:1821mAh6.96Wh
>> iPhone 8 Plus:2961mAh10.28Wh
>> iPhone X:   2716mAh10.35Wh
>> iPhone XR:2942mAh11.16Wh
>> iPhone XS: 2658mAh10.13Wh
>> iPhone XS Max:3174mAh12.08Wh 
>> iPhone 11:   3110mAh11.91Wh
>> iPhone 11 Pro:   3046mAh11.67Wh
>> iPhone 11 Pro Max: 

Re: Apple Watch screen size

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I know my wrist size is more for a 40 mm watch which is what I had. I had 
a series 5 Apple Watch but it died just before Christmas so I’m saving up for 
the ultra because of the bigger screen myself. I also like the fact that the 
speaker is a lot louder than the average watch speaker for voiceover on the 
ultra according to some reviews that I’ve seen and just asking around but the 
Apple Watch 8 also is a good alternative if you can’t save up for the ultra 
there’s also the SE.

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> Hello,
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> I’m trying to decide which screen size for the Apple Watch would work best 
> for me. I’m wondering if the 41 mm is just too small to use voice over 
> gestures.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kim
> Line PS my hands are small to average for a woman.
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Re: iOS and iPadOS 16.2 released

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Also, version 9.2 of watchOS has been released today as well for those of you who owns the Apple Watch.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:The AppleVis report on fixed accessibility bugs and₦ew bugs are detailed at:https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-162-ipados-162-bringing-bug-fixes-voiceover-braille-usersRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Re: stopping dictation

[CHELA Robles]

Anyway, I think Apple thinks I’m stupid maybe because they obviously cannot 
replicate on their end in regards to Siri and dictation which I think they 
should be able to but I think it’s hit or miss with Apple accessibility. you 
know, priorities. but I guess if we all just keep doing what we do in regards 
to reporting these issues, maybe they’ll get to it like someone else said in 
the thread. Much faster hopefully. I know dictation has been really messy for a 
very long time, but so has Siri. At least since version 16 I have version 
16.1.1. I went from version 15 the last iteration of version 15 to 16.1.1 and 
that’s when I discovered issues.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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Re: stopping dictation

[CHELA Robles]

You would figure that since Siri can actually sound like a natural voice that 
it would pick up on natural speech and yes, I have reported this numerous times 
since 16 came out to Apple accessibility and I get no response, nor anything to 
do with how to troubleshoot it and except one time where they said they 
couldn’t replicate the issue. Even my mom and dad are not sight impaired, and 
they have a hard time using it even the dictation wrapping this around back to 
the dictation subject.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2022, at 8:18 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Siri is not good at recognizing :natural" speech; it often has a particular 
> syntax it wants. I think Siri recognizes "dial" such and such a person. Even 
> so, I've had to change names in my contacts before because even if I only 
> have one Michael, Siri sometimes comes up with a short list of other names 
> completely unrelated. I find that most annoying too.  
> 
>Deidre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thomas 
> Frank
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 10:18 AM
> To: VIPhone via 
> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
> 
> Yes. When I ask Siri to call someone she asks”What do you want to know about 
> ’someone’?”  I resist the urge to say, “I want to know why you don’t 
> understand me, you …” I just say “CALL someone and she does. Annoying but an 
> easy work around.
> Thomas Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2022, at 10:01 AM, deidreandlou...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah Siri gets quite a blot of that stuff screwed up since 16. I haven't 
>> done any updates since 16 because though there might have been some minor 
>> bug fixes with voice over and dictation, I do not want to be further 
>> disappointed. I often send messages on my back up old phone that has no 
>> phone service because I can still add to Siri dictated messages outside the 
>> message app and it will add to them without losing the first part of the 
>> already dictated message, which is what Siri now does. Losing those 
>> functions kind of defeat using Siri in such a context, that is, more 
>> spontaneously without having to go into the message app. Maybe it has to do 
>> with the function capacity of the SE 2nd generation phone. 
>> 
>> Deidre
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
>> Rash
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Re: stopping dictation
>> 
>> Also, I notice that when I say, “call Tom Smith,”  Siriwill reply, “What do 
>> you want to know about Tom Smith.”
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Re: stopping dictation

[CHELA Robles]

I’ve also noticed that Siri is getting dumber than prior years as well. for 
example, I will tell it to open Paramount plus and it will tell me I’m sorry it 
looks like you don't have Paramount plus and then it tells me to search for it 
on the store when in fact, I have to trick it by saying launch Paramount+, 
which it usually works and I say usually because sometimes it doesn’t.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 29, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I find that sometimes the focus on the phone changes between when I double 
> tap to start dictation and double tap to stop it.  Turning on music indicates 
> that you are no longer on an edit field.  When it happens to me, I have to 
> locate the message text and double tap on it.
> 
> 
> At 10:13 PM 11/29/2022, you wrote:
> 
>> Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
>> music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually 
>> requires multiple attempts…poossibly because Siri can’t hear me over the 
>> music.  I have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Katrina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: stopping dictation
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 
>> upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate 
>> button to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double 
>> tap to stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, 
>> but it seems to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years. 
>>  As of late, doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music 
>> player on my phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  
>> music, I’m still in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap 
>> switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, 
>> does anyone else use a two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice 
>> this as a change?  Either that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into 
>> some weird memory void.For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the 
>> one finger double tap.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: stopping dictation

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You know, what I’ve noticed, is that when I start dictation it works very well, but when I try to add dictation it’s still locked me up in dictation mode until I have to keep doing the two finger double tap. It’s weird I’ve never had that issue with music except for once when I had the music app open and I was dictating a message. I figured that was my error.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 29, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Katrina Anderson  wrote:Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed. Katrina From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van LantSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: stopping dictation Hi,I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.    For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap. Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.   -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR14MB47162A034046391F52037CB1AF129%40MW4PR14MB4716.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: brain training

[CHELA Robles]

Duolingo Math is out on the appstore and I tested it for accessibility. Also if 
you want to learn some languages, Duolingo is also good as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:04 AM, multi 85  wrote:
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> Hi friends
> Apart from word games, are there any accessible braintraining apps or
> web sites available? By brain training, I am meaning things like logic
> puzzles, memory, brain teasers, maths.
> Thanks
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Re: Talking blood pressure monitor recommendations please:

[CHELA Robles]

I got mine from guide lights and gadgets. His name is Barry sure and I’m sure 
spelling his last name wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> For stand alone, I recently got one from Center Well Pharmacy through my 
> Humana; it was $75, and it is fine. 
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Donald Breda
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2022 11:04 AM
> To: VIPhone google group 
> Subject: Talking blood pressure monitor recommendations please:
> 
> I know this subject has been discussed on this list previously but much time 
> has past.
> 
> 
> Any recommendations for an upper arm accurate blood pressure monitor 
> that is easy to use read and keep track of readings with?
> 
> 
> I am looking for one that works with the iPhone and the health app.
> 
> 
> I would also appreciate any recommendations for talking monitors that 
> are standalone as well but I ask for off list email in that case.
> 
> 
> don.br...@gmail.com is the address to send those to.
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> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
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Re: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen

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I have found that, resetting your home layout screen or your home screen, layout in settings, under general, and reset being the last option I think, or second to last option, one of the options after that is after you double tap on that, is reset, home screen layout, and I found that actually does the trick in getting the widget stack back to the way. It was pretty simple.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 21, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Vicky Collins  wrote:This is a little long, but I hope it makes at least some sense and that someone will correct any errors I may have made. Oh, and I am in the United States and currently using an iPhone 12 Mini and an iPhone 13 Mini with iOS 16.0.3, if that makes a difference. Unless I’ve missed it, I’m kind of surprised that no one has mentioned this widget thing before you started mentioning it a month or so ago. Since I like to keep all my apps in alphabetical order, when I had gotten some of them out of order a few months ago and then reset my home screen, I was surprised to find those stacked widgets as the first things at the top of my home screen. But since resetting the home screen again only brought them back, I just decided to live with them. When I read your question earlier today, I started looking around again, as since I had decided to live with the widgets, I also wanted the weather to show up first and then the calendar to show up when I did the one finger flick to the right. Thus, it kind of looks like if I double tap and then hold on the weather icon at the top of the screen, then wait to hear the sound to indicate that a context menu has shown up, then flick left and right with one finger till I hear edit stack, then double tap on that edit stack button, then put my finger down towards the bottom of the screen and find the smart rotate button, then double tap on it to turn it off, then find the done button in the upper right corner of the screen, and then double tap on that done button to save the change, weather and calendar should stay constant there and not change to maps or photos or  whatever Apple thinks I want to see at the time. The only way I can figure to get the weather icon back on the first page is to delete the widget stack, which it kind of sounds like you already did, and then move the icon back to the first page, so I’ll try the steps from the beginning with the widgets intact and see what happens. I once again put my finger on the weather icon on the first page, then I double tap and hold on that icon till I hear the sound, then I flick left and right till I find the remove stack button, then I double tap on that remove stack button, then I flick to the right to the remove button when prompted to confirm, and then I double tap on that remove button. Now to get the weather icon back on the first page, keeping in mind that that will then reorder the placement of the rest of the apps. From the first page on the home screen, I do a three finger swipe to the left to bring up the second page, then I put my finger on the weather icon on the top left of that second page, then I flick down with one finger and hear edit mode, then I double tap and hear started editing, then I put my finger on the weather icon again, then I flick up with one finger until I hear drag weather, then I double tap on the drag weather, then I hear find my as that is the next app on the page, but I flick right with three fingers to get back to the first home screen, then I find facetime in the upper left of the home screen, then I flick down with one finger until I hear drop weather before facetime, then I double tap on that drop weather before facetime, then I hear drop complete once I have done that and weather is once again in the top left of the first page. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Margaret ThomasSent: Friday, October 21, 2022 11:14 AMTo: V iPhone listSubject: Re: Getting Weather Widget Back On iPhone Home Screen I did some more web searches and one from Hadley that the "transcript" was just a sample, but it gave me a hint that I tried with "VoiceOver Quiz and Answers: Rita's iDevice Advice for  December 27, 2021" that I mentioned.  I have partial success.  I once again have a weather widget, but, unfortunately, it's on page 2 of the home screen and not on page 1 where it's more convenient.  I was wondering if I can manage to get it on page 1 if I can remove the one on page2 or should I remove the one on page 2 and try again to get it on page 1? Many thanks, Margaret  On 10/21/2022 12:38 AM, Margaret Thomas wrote:> Good Evening, All:> > I thought maybe I had reached enough of need to know on the learning > curve for my SE 2 that I could try a little want to know or curious > about things with the phone and had heard weather widget  stack so many > times on my status bar that I decided to try to investigate widgets.> > When I got the phone home from the Verizon store, it said   Cupertino > and the weather there and not my town and weather in the status bar that > was very 

Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[CHELA Robles]

Well, my mom is not a fan of audio description at all. It’s too distracting for 
her seeing as she can see. my dad doesn’t mind it, but I think he just does it 
for the benefit of me or you know what benefits me sometimes. But I do know 
subsided, people that enjoy it. One of my friends is an audio describer 
technically being a reader that reads the audio description script that was 
written for him I think he even does the Picard series. His name is Roy 
Samuelson. He enjoys listening to audio description as well. He is fully sided.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2022, at 7:16 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Lana,
> Mark was saying the videos do not include the Audio Description track, but he 
> failed to use the word "description" in his statement.
> Yes, they have the full audio and sound effects, minus the description track 
> for the blind.
> Apparently, if you want to buy the video, with full audio including audio 
> description, you need to buy it through Prime.
> I personally am fine with just the free MP3 with no video but all the sounds 
> plus audio description.  My wife who is sighted, isn't a big fan of Sci-Fi.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lana
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; M. Taylor 
> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
> 
> Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, 
> or sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted 
> viewer.
> 
>> On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
>> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
>> Video.
>> 
>> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
>> be too surprised, at that.
>> 
>> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
>> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
>> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
>> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>> 
>> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>> 
>> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
>> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
>> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
>> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an 
>> audio description track.
>> 
>> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
>> have access to that audio track.
>> 
>> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, 
>> Picard, also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is 
>> released in February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the 
>> iTunes store, as well.
>> 
>> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from 
>> the iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>> 
>> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer 
>> for myself?
>> 
>> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy 
>> the first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, 
>> the series is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, 
>> unlike the product description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly 
>> labels the series as having an audio track included with purchase.
>> 
>> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video 
>> Store, given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the 
>> iTunes Store, if possible.
>> 
>> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from 
>> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the 
>> purchase.
>> 
>> All replies appreciated,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[CHELA Robles]

Lana, Richard was saying that audiovault has only the audio with audio 
description, not the video. It's a resource he gets audio descriptive content 
from similar to Blind Mice Mega Mall's Movie Vault. Similar to Sero app for 
iPhone.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2022, at 5:56 AM, Lana  wrote:
> 
> Are you saying that the episodes come with video only? No dialogue or music, 
> or sound effects? or anything? That doesn't make sense, even for a sighted 
> viewer.
> 
>> On 10/18/2022 11:03 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, a list member who is also a Star Trek fan, just purchased Picard, 
>> Season 1, from the iTunes store.  He plans to buy season 2, also, from 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> He informed me that the audio track is not included in the purchase.
>> 
>> Wow!
>> 
>> I am so surprised given that the audio track is included on Amazon Prime 
>> Video.
>> 
>> Given that the show was produced at the Amazon Studios, I guess I should not 
>> be too surprised, at that.
>> 
>> Like all of my other television series purchases from iTunes, I probably 
>> wouldn't let the lack of an audio track stop me from purchasing the show but 
>> if I can get the same episodes, at the same price, with audio description 
>> from Amazon Prime Video, then so be it.
>> 
>> Well, off to the Amazon Prime Video Store, I go.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans
>> 
>> I have not purchased that series. I did listen to season one from 
>> audiovault.net which of course is just the audio file, no Pictures.
>> I have a few movies from iTunes that have audio description.
>> Perhaps this is one where you need to ask Apple directly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an audio
>> description track.
>> 
>> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
>> have access to that audio track.
>> 
>> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, Picard,
>> also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is released in
>> February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the iTunes store, as
>> well.
>> 
>> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from the
>> iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
>> 
>> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer for
>> myself?
>> 
>> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy the
>> first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, the series
>> is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, unlike the product
>> description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly labels the series as
>> having an audio track included with purchase.
>> 
>> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video Store,
>> given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the iTunes Store,
>> if possible.
>> 
>> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from
>> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the
>> purchase.
>> 
>> All replies appreciated,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: A Question for Star Trek, Picard Fans

[CHELA Robles]

I have not purchased any video Contant with audio description from Apple 
iTunes, and you did mention Paramount plus subscribers getting access to the 
audio description. Well I tried to get that audio description for a show which 
normally does have audio description, but couldn’t get it to go on because in 
the app, there’s no way for me to tell. if I’m actually in the player or if I’m 
in the settings because I don’t know what they did in the update, but I cannot 
find audio language, subtitles, etc. this is on an iPhone 8 plus running 
16.0.3. I have the latest software update for Paramount+ app as well. Anybody 
having issues getting the audio description to work on that app any workarounds 
would be great. Sorry that this doesn’t actually answer your question but trial 
and error seems to be the best bet I could try to buy season one and let you 
know if it works but you would think under the description that it would say 
that audio description is available. I know it does for a star is born 2018.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:02 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> The television series Star Trek, Picard has been produced with an audio
> description track.
> 
> Now I know that those who subscribe to Paramount Plus, CBS All Access, etc.
> have access to that audio track.
> 
> To my surprise, the iTunes Store sells both seasons of Star Trek, Picard,
> also.  I am assuming that when the third and final season is released in
> February, 2023, it will be available  for purchase in the iTunes store, as
> well.
> 
> My question:  Has anyone purchased a season of Star Trek, Picard from the
> iTunes Store? And if so, was the audio description track included?
> 
> Why am I asking when I can simply buy a season and discover the answer for
> myself?
> 
> Since I plan on buying Star Trek, Picard, normally, I would simply buy the
> first season and hope for the best.  However, in this instance, the series
> is also being sold in the Amazon Prime Video store. And, unlike the product
> description in iTunes, Amazon Prime Video clearly labels the series as
> having an audio track included with purchase.
> 
> While I have purchased several items from the Amazon Prime Video Store,
> given a choice, I prefer to purchase my video content from the iTunes Store,
> if possible.
> 
> So, in short, I was just curious if anyone had purchased the show from
> iTunes and if the audio description track had been included with the
> purchase.
> 
> All replies appreciated,
> 
> Mark
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Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[CHELA Robles]

To my knowledge, I don’t think there’s a way to get a physical Sim because if I 
remember correctly, they stated that it was gonna be electronic so I could be 
very wrong though. I could be very wrong, but I don’t think the model you’re 
looking at has a physical Sim tray, but I could be very wrong in this as well. 
That’s just what I’ve gathered from the Keynote that I heard or the Apple 
event. Whatever you wanna call it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2022, at 6:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone, 
> 
> And so it begins.
> 
> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone 14
> Pro Max.  
> 
> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
> 
> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to
> learn that, according to him, the store has been inundated  by customers who
> only want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray.  He told me that they
> are working on crafting an in-store response to the enquiries designed to
> discouraged customers from seeking a physical SIM tray.  He followed that up
> by saying, "I know you, Mark, and no response is going to keep you from
> getting that SIM tray model, if that is what you want."  (smile)  He is a
> very smart man (smile).
> 
> So, the search begins.
> 
> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a physical SIM
> tray, from within the United States?
> 
> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple online store,
> without designating a wireless provider, that Apple will ship you a model
> with a physical SIM tray.  However, I cannot locate anyone to confirm this.
> 
> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to pick up a
> model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.
> 
> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, of course,
> I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but that makes me
> somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think I'd rather go to Canada,
> in person, to grab a model.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Mark  
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Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

The old phone function on low power mode at 30% for an hour, but half an hour, when low power mode was off my replacement still is a 95% batterySent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 7:04 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:U, What I was trying to ask is this. I wonder how long that phone will function with a battery that is at 30% of its original 100% power level. 1 hour?  Or, maybe a bit more? James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery health Well, seeing as is Apple supports released devices for 6 years before they call it quits, here is what I found make of it what you will: https://www.alphr.com/iphone-8-support-end-date/Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 3:31 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.James B  -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CarolynSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: battery healthWow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery healthI remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years.  -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: battery health It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone shutting down and others.  GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  escribió:   Hi Paula,   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number.    Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:    Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. Thanks in advance.   God bless!   Paula and the pups --   The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at:  http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/  ---   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.  To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com  .  To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/019a01d8df12%242aa37370%247fea5a50%24%40roadrunner.com  .  --   The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.   If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.   Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com   The archives for this list can be searched at:  http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/  

Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

Well, seeing as is Apple supports released devices for 6 years before they call 
it quits, here is what I found make of it what you will: 
https://www.alphr.com/iphone-8-support-end-date/

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 3:31 PM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yeah.  I wonder how long that phone works before it goes dead.
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: battery health
> 
> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery health
> 
> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
> other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
> was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it 
> was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery health
>> 
>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
>> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
>> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
>> shutting down and others.
>> 
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> 
>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   Hi Paula,
>> 
>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
>> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
>> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level 
>> before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is 
>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific 
>> number. 
>> 
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
>> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
>> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I 
>> can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my 
>> memory. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>>   God bless!
>> 
>>   Paula and the pups
>> 
>> 
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Re: battery health

[Chela Robles]

Well, I didn't have a choice since I am part of my father's family
plan with AT I didn't have a say-so. He wanted to do the cheapest
thing he could afford.

On 10/13/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I wouldn't have gotten the same phone as before.  The iPhone 8 phones
> are very much out of date compared to the new phones.  I don't know
> how much longer they will be supported.  I know the iPhone 8 won't be
> updated beyond 16.
>
> On 10/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> Yes, well Carolyn, you gotta understand that I had the iPhone 8 Plus for
>> 2
>> 1/2 maybe three years before it started having issues like no one could
>> hear
>> my audio and then no one could see my video and then VoiceOver started
>> wigging out on me. A lot of other things happened but luckily my dad was
>> smart enough to actually get warranty for my phone so I was able to get a
>> Phone for only $350 and it’s the same model I had before and I got it
>> last
>> year. and also since I was traveling a lot during 2017, 1819 and 20, I
>> did
>> have to use my phone a lot because I had four modes of transportation to
>> connect with and that was going to and from work five days a week for
>> approximately 10 1/2 months. A year. also, when I was stuck in traffic
>> during rides to and from work, I would use my phone to pass the time by
>> listening to music or watch some TV or catch up on some podcasts or
>> Messages
>> mail, etc. Maybe even read a good book from the national library service
>> for
>> the print disabled. perhaps even a game or two.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: battery health
>>>
>>> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that
>>> my other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health
>>> goes
>>> and it was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but
>>> I
>>> know it was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: battery health
>>>>
>>>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years
>>>> and months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and
>>>> it’s at 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of
>>>> the
>>>> phone shutting down and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler
>>>> 
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>   Hi Paula,
>>>>
>>>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the
>>>> number
>>>> was 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her
>>>> iPhone
>>>> for three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same
>>>> level before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number
>>>> is
>>>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific
>>>> number.
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>   Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace
>>>> an
>>>> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in
>>>> the battery health setting you should c

Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

Yes, well Carolyn, you gotta understand that I had the iPhone 8 Plus for 2 1/2 
maybe three years before it started having issues like no one could hear my 
audio and then no one could see my video and then VoiceOver started wigging out 
on me. A lot of other things happened but luckily my dad was smart enough to 
actually get warranty for my phone so I was able to get a Phone for only $350 
and it’s the same model I had before and I got it last year. and also since I 
was traveling a lot during 2017, 1819 and 20, I did have to use my phone a lot 
because I had four modes of transportation to connect with and that was going 
to and from work five days a week for approximately 10 1/2 months. A year. 
also, when I was stuck in traffic during rides to and from work, I would use my 
phone to pass the time by listening to music or watch some TV or catch up on 
some podcasts or Messages mail, etc. Maybe even read a good book from the 
national library service for the print disabled. perhaps even a game or two.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Wow, I can't imagine maximum battery capacity in the 30 percents. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery health
> 
> I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
> other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
> was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it 
> was lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: battery health
>> 
>> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
>> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
>> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
>> shutting down and others.
>> 
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>> 
>> 
>>   El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>   Hi Paula,
>> 
>>   I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
>> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
>> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level 
>> before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is 
>> incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific 
>> number. 
>> 
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>   On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>   Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
>> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
>> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I 
>> can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my 
>> memory. Thanks in advance.
>> 
>>   God bless!
>> 
>>   Paula and the pups
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: battery health

[CHELA Robles]

I remember when I had to get my replacement iPhone 8 Plus last year that my 
other one was significantly degraded as far as the battery health goes and it 
was at 30% or at least around there I can’t exactly remember but I know it was 
lower than 50%. sorry for any dictation errors.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Good grief. Mine on my 11 is at 90% after almost three years. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 12:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: battery health
> 
> It’s at 80% because mine at 79% after having this SE2020 for two years and 
> months (JUne of 2020), and mine says the battery is degraded, and it’s at 
> 79%. Even though it’s degraded, Ihaven’t had any problems of the phone 
> shutting down and others.
> 
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
> 
>El 13 oct 2022, a la(s) 10:08 a.m., Les Kriegler  
> escribió:
>
>
> 
>
>Hi Paula,
> 
>I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 
> 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for 
> three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before 
> I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m 
> certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number. 
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an 
> iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the 
> battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t 
> remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>God bless!
> 
>Paula and the pups
> 
>
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Re: IOS 16.0.3 is now available

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And for those of you who have Apple watches there’s an update for that too. It is 9.0.2. It was a very smooth install for me on my Apple Watch five.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 10, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:But still the notification Voiceover bug persists  I was so hoping it’d been resolved in this update!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 10 oct 2022, a la(s) 1:46 p.m., literophi...@myself.com escribió:Subject line is self-explanatory, take care! Best,Leo Bado 



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Re: working at amazon

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I have also heard that they hire a blind people to work in their warehouses. I’m not sure what they do there, but that’s where the aid of Aira comes into play. sorry for any dictation errors.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Marda  wrote:
  

  
  
Amazon in America does have at least one blind person that I read
  an article about.  Don't know about other countries.  Also it may
  depend on what position you are applying for.  The person I read
  about works in a position where he is making their products more
  accessible to people with all kinds of disabilities.  So they are
  willing to employ a blind person in that type of job but I don't
  know how they feel about their other positions.  Sometimes I have
  seen companies who are willing to employ blind people in something
  like an accessibility related job but it doesn't always extend to
  their other jobs and sometimes the discrimination is really subtle
  and difficult to prove.  But I know I have gone through much
  rejection by employers and did eventually get jobs but sometimes
  you have to experience a lot of rejection before you land a job. 
  It can be very difficult and discouraging.  I know someone that
  lost a job and went for seven years without getting another and
  with going through tons of sending out resumes and applying for
  jobs and this person was very educated and capable and had worked
  successfully as a blind person and after seven years he did find a
  job where he is happy and happens to also be making quite a bit of
  money.  Obviously it doesn't work to that degree for everyone.  I
  don't make the kind of money he does and I'm only working very
  part-time.  So every case will be different.  I hope though that
  you will keep trying to find a job and if you want to work at
  amazon I'd say go for it and see what happens.  You might get more
  rejection but you'll never know if you don't try and even if they
  have rejected people in the past there might be a new person
  working there now that does things ddifferently.  It's very
  tempting to give up.  I have had times when I did.  But I hope you
  will be able to have the strength to keep trying.
Marda

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Hi,
 
Does Amazon employ blind people? 
I saw a job in Israel, and applied, but I
  had a negative past with so many companies, according to my
  blindness, so, I don’t know… 
 
Many companies just rejected me because of
  my disability. 
 
 
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Re: working at amazon

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Maybe you guys didn’t see it but I did respond with a link to join a list of discussion about jobs. It’s through the NFB. and yes, he did subscribe to that list but no one has responded to his question yet when he asked it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 8, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







It is not, but there is little point in asking about employment at Amazon in Israel if most people on the list are in the United States and other countries. Same goes for let's use Apple
 Cash as an example. It is not available in many countries so at least if I live in Canada and were curious about it I should say where I live so people give me relevant information. Lastly, this type of question is still entirely off-topic so as I said, maybe
 asking people to send you private email if they  know of a list which deals with employment questions is OK, but to start a discussion with dozens of messages half of which are from people who say that this is off-topic is of no use to the original poster
 nor to anybody else.
 


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Subject: Re: working at amazon


 
Hello,

 


Is it a list for a particular country?

Lyne






Le 8 oct. 2022 à 08:55, CHELA Robles  a écrit :




Here you go a jobs-discussion list: https://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/job-discussions_nfbnet.org

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 8, 2022, at 5:30 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




Sorry, I meant for a iPhone discussion list, but I think Afik asked this also on one of the Jaws lists.

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Is this really on topic for a Jaws discussion list? I am sure there are lists for discussing employment, maybe somebody can suggest one so this discussion takes place where it is on topic.
There is little use to talk about Amazon jobs in the US if the person is asking about jobs in Israel.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 2:17 AM
To: m...@jfw.groups.io
Cc: 'via VIPhone' 
Subject: Re: working at amazon

Yes they do -- at least here in the U.S.  I think they even let you use Aira as an accomodation.

What kind of job are you looking for?

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Hi,


 


 


 


Does Amazon employ blind people? 


 


I saw a job in Israel, and applied, but I had a negative past with so



many companies, according to my blindness, so, I don't know.


 


 


 


Many companies just rejected me because of my disability. 



 


 


 


 


 


Thanks much,


 


 


 


Afik


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


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Here you go a jobs-discussion list: 
https://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/job-discussions_nfbnet.org

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: working at amazon

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I am of the understanding the job. John is referring to is actually warehouse 
work. I could be wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi John, 
> I'm looking for customer service or job about accessibility. 
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> They will let me use JAWS, and Braille display? 
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> as an accomodation.
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: An Issue With Siri

[CHELA Robles]

Just say no start over speaking clearly and slowly but not too slow. I got it to work that way yesterday. i’m open to other suggestions too. What what I did say, yesterday was no, change it, and then siri was able to change it for me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 1, 2022, at 8:00 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:Hello list, In previous versions of iOS, when dictating a text message to Siri, it would give you the option to edit the message before sending.  Now, it just sends the message as is, so if Siri misheard something you said, it will send the message complete with errors. Does anyone know of a workaround for this?  



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Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

The only workaround I see in regards to the phone, not having speech when 
rebooting, it is to actually plug it in to the charger and have the charger 
miraculously restart the phone and then possibly tell Siri to turn on voiceover 
if voiceover is off and if it’s on already and it’s not speaking, then tell 
Siri to turn it off and then turn it on see what happens. just a possibility. 
something to try out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Mine happened with Evan Enhanced. I would have switched back to Samantha, 
> but someone on this or another list said it happened to their phone with 
> Samantha. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
> experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
> Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does 
> happen again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and 
> then it’ll vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when 
> you charge the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t 
> know. At any rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus 
> and haven't got that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is 
> for my own curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a 
> combination of both?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
>> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them 
>> again. That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted 
>>> or blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they 
>>> had this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not 
>>> speaking when I reboot the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Poulakos
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 
>>> 20 Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't 
>>> turned my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing 
>>> from so many who have had this problem.  
>>> 
>>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>>> 
>>> Karen P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does 
>>> not work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does 
&g

Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

On the subject of oddities, with voiceover, why won't the voice I choose for my 
Apple watch switch from siri say to Fred for example or Alex? I have watchOS 9. 
I wonder if the subject of not getting any speech on the phone happens with 
Alex as well sorry for flip-flopping back and forth.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:28 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Mine happened with Evan Enhanced. I would have switched back to Samantha, 
> but someone on this or another list said it happened to their phone with 
> Samantha. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
> 
> You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
> experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
> Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does 
> happen again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and 
> then it’ll vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when 
> you charge the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t 
> know. At any rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus 
> and haven't got that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is 
> for my own curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a 
> combination of both?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
>> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them 
>> again. That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted 
>>> or blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they 
>>> had this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not 
>>> speaking when I reboot the phone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Karen Poulakos
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 
>>> 20 Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't 
>>> turned my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing 
>>> from so many who have had this problem.  
>>> 
>>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>>> 
>>> Karen P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Carolyn
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does 
>>> not work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>>> 
>>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>>> feedback.
>>> 
>>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does 
>>> bring up handwriting on the lock screen it defaults to lower case and I 
>>> have to swipe down tw

Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

[CHELA Robles]

You know what’s really weird is I have not experienced what you guys have 
experienced and I’m running iOS 16 it may be the voice I’m using I’m using 
Fred, which is not a new voice, but I figured perhaps maybe if this does happen 
again, maybe plug the phone in and it will automatically start and then it’ll 
vibrate or make that noise start up sound or whatever it does when you charge 
the phone and then maybe VoiceOver might come on, but I don’t know. At any 
rate, I’m glad you solved the issue. I just on an iPhone 8 plus and haven't got 
that issue yet, what voices does this happen with? This is for my own 
curiosity. older voices or newer voices? Or maybe even a combination of both?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine using iPhone 8 had the same problem after updating to iOS 
> 16. We solved the problem by deleting the voices and reinstalling them again. 
> That took care of the voice over problem not talking.
> Cheers
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't really think it's that many compared to how many people (sighted or 
>> blind) are using the iPhone. I don't recall exactly how many say they had 
>> this issue, but I bet it wasn't more than 4 or 5.
>> I have an iPhone 11 and had no issues whatsoever with Voiceover not speaking 
>> when I reboot the phone.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
>> Poulakos
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> Has anyone tried using an external braille display, like the Orbit Reader 20 
>> Plus,  to get the phone up and running without Voiceover?  I haven't turned 
>> my phone off since updating, but am almost afraid to after hearing from so 
>> many who have had this problem.  
>> 
>> My phone is an SE 2022.  I tried several voices, and went back to Samantha.
>> 
>> Karen P
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> I could not use Rotor or keypad without Voiceover. So, if Voiceover does not 
>> work, my phone is as good as a piece of garbage to me. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> Just FYI, if  you have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to your phone you can 
>> enter your PIN on it and using the numbers row on a keyboard or a NumPad if 
>> you have something like a Logitech K780 should be a lot easier and 
>> successful than trying to tap the right numbers on the touchscreen without 
>> feedback.
>> 
>> Alternatively if you have handwriting added to your rotor and know how to 
>> enter handwriting you can enter your PIN this way, but again it's probably 
>> hit and miss without feedback. I just tried it for the first time in a long 
>> time and for some reason when I turn the rotor to the right which does bring 
>> up handwriting on the lock screen it defaults to lower case and I have to 
>> swipe down twice with 3 fingers to get to numbers, then I can write my PIN 
>> numbers on the screen and the phone unlocks.
>> 
>> I will write to Apple Accessibility because I think by default if you have a 
>> number field only like with the PIN entry field it would be nice if once you 
>> turned the rotor to handwriting it would automatically default to numbers 
>> entry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I had this same thing happen with both my 12 Mini and 13 Mini Friday night, 
>> but I haven�t had the problem with either phone since. I�m using the default 
>> Samantha voice, and I had no problems when upgrading to iOS 16.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the 13 Mini, I had turned the phone off to get rid of that one unread 
>> message badge I often get now when I receive a text message on one of my 
>> phones and delete it right after reading. Since I have text message 
>> forwarding set up on both of my phones, the phone on which I don�t read the 
>> text shows that badge until I either recover the message I have deleted on 
>> the other phone or until I reboot that phone on which I haven�t read the 
>> message.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, after turning that iPhone 13 Mini back on, VoiceOver did not speak 
>> or make any sounds, and nothing I did from trying to talk to Siri, using 
>> headphones, turning up the volume button, doing the 

Re: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?

[CHELA Robles]

I can only compare it to jaws and it sounds like it’s at 15% for me even at 50% rate which is weird on an iPhone 8 Plus. and this is for eloquence. Haven’t tried it with Alex yet.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:







Hi.
 
I was using Alex as my voice, but switched to Eloquence. In both cases, 50% sounded the same rate wise.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Which voice are you using?
 
If anything, it seems like my usual 60 percent with Tom Enhanced and now with Jamie premium or enhanced, whatever it is, is a tiny bit faster.
I slowed them down to 55% and that seems closer to what I had before.  Interesting.
 
iPhone 13 pro.
 
 

 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone else have Voiceover speak slower since iOS 16?


 
Hi.
 
I’m not one of those that has Voiceover speak very fast. I was happy with 50% speaking rate. When I upgraded to iOS 16, however, the speech is noticeably slower. I checked the rate, and it’s still at 50%. I increased it on the home screen
 to 55%, and it significantly got faster than what I’m used to on my phone. I think it will work, so I’m not that worried about it. I guess I could make a finer adjustment in Voiceover settings, so I might do that in the end.
 
This is just information, and not really a complaint.
 
Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
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Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16

[CHELA Robles]

Not to be extremely nitpicky, but the one bug I’ve seen since iOS 14 at least maybe a little longer but anyway I see every time I’m in an email message, when there is no more text on the line, voiceover reads it as if it were her actions menu, and it says, swipe up or down to select a customer shin and double tap to activate it. I kinda wish that would go away. anyway, I’m using an iPhone 8 plus.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:38 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:That is a neat thing you can do to end a call!shirley From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: 13 September 2022 17:37To: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 It works fine for me.It is by default enabled.Just in case, check: Open the Settings app on your iPhone or iPad.From the options, double tap Accessibility.Scroll down and under “PHYSICAL AND MOTOR”, double tap on Touch.Look for  Prevent lock to end call, which defaults to off.  If you don't want the side/lock button to end calls, double tap to turn that on. Remember, it both ends the call and locks the phone.You can also say Hey Siri, hang up call if you use Hey Siri, or hold the side button in and say hang up call. Richard“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard My web site: https://www.turner42.com礪 -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rafal MarzecSent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Ending a call with side button VoiceOver iOS16 I’m also interested how to do it I’ve got iPhone 13 Pro Max do you know how to set up it Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Sep 2022, at 6:48 am, Shai  wrote:> > Hello all,> I tried to end a call using the sleep/wake button on my iPhone10r> iOS16 with VoiceOver; however, I noticed that it did not end a call > when pressed. I tried both against my ear and while on speaker phone.> Has anyone gotten this feature to work and if so, how did you do it? I > made sure that prevent lock button from ending call is turned to off > under accessibility/touch.> > > --> Shai Wolman> Wolman Assistive> (619)894-6587> An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults!> To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at > wolmanassistive.com> > --> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  > mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> ---> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAL%2BOAfbp5nF1M1OU-no3u5W1x8KppiqjFb4BRs-M3_65NwccvQ%40mail.gmail.com. --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1FD05FA2-EF80-48F1-8759-35B5AD2CB922%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 

Re: Novelty voices

[CHELA Robles]

If you go to the Applevis site you'll see some podcasts with the new voice 
samples.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:34 AM, James English  wrote:
> 
> I'm kinda curious now, but my phone doesn't support ios 16. What are
> the new options I'm missing out on?
> 
>> On 9/13/22, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find them. Are they only
>>> available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: manyofus1...@gmail.com
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 AM
>>>> Subject: Novelty voices
>>>> 
>>>> I just updated to IOS 16.
>>>> 
>>>> Why on earth did they include novelty voices?
>>>> 
>>>> They are awful! And so weird!
>>>> 
>>>> Who’ll even use them?
>>>> 
>>>> I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.
>>>> 
>>>> Shirley
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Re: Novelty voices

[CHELA Robles]

I don't recall Applevis saying anything about Welsh voices.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Julie Dawson  wrote:






Someone talked about Welsh voices but I can't find 
them. Are they only available on the apple watch not on the iPhone?
 

  - Original Message - 
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  manyofus1...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: Novelty voices
  
  
  I just updated to IOS 
  16.
  Why on earth did they include novelty 
  voices?
  They are awful! And so 
  weird!
  Who’ll even use 
them?
  I am using the UK voice, stephanie right 
  now.
  Shirley
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Re: App switcher issue in IOS 16

[CHELA Robles]

I am getting an interesting thing where when I swipe up with three fingers to 
close the app, the context menu to add a widget so I pretty much just press the 
home button to get out of that on my iPhone 8 Plus. I hope they do get this 
fixed in an upcoming version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm not having much trouble closing apps either.  If you listen for
> the word active after the app you want to close, this usually works
> for me.
> 
>> On 9/13/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> I have no trouble finding the apps in the app switcher.  Check kind of in
>> the center of the screen.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site:   https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 礪
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 5:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: App switcher issue in IOS 16
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the apps in the app switcher seem to be in a smaller area.
>> 
>> I haven’t taken the time to isolate that yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 礪
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> joediner...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: App switcher issue in IOS 16
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I thought I read about a bug in IOS 16 with the app switcher, and after
>> upgrading to the OS last night, I am experiencing an issue where I cant see
>> the apps in the app switcher. Do I recall correctly that this is a known
>> issue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: Novelty voices

[CHELA Robles]

Apparently, there are weird people out there that like those weird novelties it brings some sort of nos nostalgia or something. right now I’m using eloquence, but I have a habit of changing to other natural voices from time to time. I did try good news and it freaked me out a bit too. But I understood since it was all in English it was just singing to me. Anyway, how do you like Stephanie?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2022, at 9:24 AM, manyofus1...@gmail.com wrote:I just updated to IOS 16.Why on earth did they include novelty voices?They are awful! And so weird!Who’ll even use them?I am using the UK voice, stephanie right now.Shirley



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Re: New Siri sound

[CHELA Robles]

I really like the new sounds for dictation microphone and Siri.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
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> I can't really hear it, but just have tried it to see how it worked, and I 
> got questions answered. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Julie Dawson
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 7:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Siri sound
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> The new sound is very different. I just set up my new Iphone SE3.
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 1:47 PM
> Subject: New Siri sound
> 
> 
>> I don't care for the new sound to invoke Siri, as I have a hearing loss, 
>> and the sound is too low to hear well, unless the volume is high.
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