RE: disappearing messages in ios

[Don & Cher]

Yes, same experience recently. Thinking of calling Apple accessibility.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
don bishop
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios

No, they're definitely separate messages. I can read them when they come in as 
notifications if I'm right there by the phone. The problem is that often I 
don't catch the entire message, and the problem comes when I open the message 
app to rereead them. Hope this makes sense.  


- Original Message -
From: Colin McDonald  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:42 pm
Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios

>
>
> when you say quick succession, how quick?
> The reason I ask is because you may have message notifications set to 
> notify you multiple times of the same message'''l a repeating 
> notification of the same message.
> Which would make it appear as though you are getting multiple 
> messages, but in fact you only have one unread message sitting there.
> If you are talking about message notifications seconds apart, then 
> this isn't the issue.
> 
> Regards
> Colin
> -Original Message-
> From: Colin McDonald
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> are they audio messages?
> If so, once the conversation has been opened, audio messages will only 
> stick for 30 seconds before disappearing unless you set to keep them.
> However, if they are regular messages, and not all from the same 
> person, then they will appear in different conversations within the messaging 
> app.
> If they are all from the same person, and disappearing, that is 
> unexplainable.
> If you get say 3 messages from more than 1 person all in quick 
> succession, and you double tap one of those messages on the lock 
> screen for instance, you will go directly into that conversNot'''in 
> order to see the messages from other people, you do have to hit the 
> back button to get back into the main messaging app and flick right or 
> left to find the most recent messages sent to y'''these will say 
> "unread" before reading the senders name and the message so you will know 
> they are recent.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Colin
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 2:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> If they weren't from the same person, I believe so.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of don bishop
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> Hi Richard,  Maybe I wasn't clear. Today I got 3 messages in rapid 
> succession. I opened the message app to rad them and only saw the last one.
> YOU'RE saying I have to hit the back button to see the other messages?
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:20 pm
> Subject: RE: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> >
> >
> > I know this seems rather basic, but I don't want to assume.
> > Did you hit the back button in the upper left corner enough to get 
> > to the main screen?
> > I have all my messages showing up unless I am in another 
> > conversation, or I've deleted a conversation.
> > It always defaults to the last conversation I was reading.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Behalf Of don bishop
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: disappearing messeages in ios
> >
> > Hi all,
> > If I get multiple messages on the iphone, it seems that only the 
> > last one stays on the phone. I can't get to the others even though I 
> > haven't deleted them. I have it set to keep messages on the phone forever.
> > Anyone have an idea as to what's going on and what to do about it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Don
> >
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RE: disappearing messages in ios

[Don & Cher]

I just noticed the same problem- when a second message came in from the same 
person, I could never locate the first- even though VO read part of it when it 
arrived. Don't think this issue was present when I first started with a phone 
some years ago.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
don bishop
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios

Actually they were all from the same person, but I'll try it next time it 
happens. 
Don  


- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:28 pm
Subject: RE: disappearing messeages in ios

>
>
> If they weren't from the same person, I believe so.
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> don bishop
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> Hi Richard,  Maybe I wasn't clear. Today I got 3 messages in rapid 
> succession. I opened the message app to rad them and only saw the last one. 
> YOU'RE saying I have to hit the back button to see the other messages? 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:20 pm
> Subject: RE: disappearing messeages in ios
> 
> >
> >
> > I know this seems rather basic, but I don't want to assume.
> > Did you hit the back button in the upper left corner enough to get to the 
> > main screen?
> > I have all my messages showing up unless I am in another conversation, or 
> > I've deleted a conversation.
> > It always defaults to the last conversation I was reading.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of don bishop
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:15 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: disappearing messeages in ios
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > If I get multiple messages on the iphone, it seems that only the last one 
> > stays on the phone. I can't get to the others even though I haven't deleted 
> > them. I have it set to keep messages on the phone forever. 
> > Anyone have an idea as to what's going on and what to do about it?
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Don  
> > 
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RE: iOS 9.2 update info

[Don & Cher]

What does ' Adding support for VoiceOver to wake up the screen' actually mean? 
Thanks - Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:07 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: iOS 9.2 update info

 

This update contains improvements and bug fixes including:

· Apple Music improvements

oYou can now create a new playlist when adding a song to a playlist

oYour most recently changed playlist is now listed at the top when adding 
songs to playlists

oDownload albums or playlists from your iCloud Music Library by tapping the 
iCloud download button

oSee which songs have been downloaded with the new download indicator next 
to each song in My Music and Playlists

oSee works, composers, and performers while browsing Classical music in the 
Apple Music catalog

· A new Top Stories section in News so you can stay up to date with the 
most important news of the day (available in the United States, United Kingdom, 
and Australia)

· Mail Drop in Mail for sending large attachments

· iBooks now supports 3D Touch to peek and pop pages from the table of 
contents, your notes and bookmarks, or from search results inside a book

· iBooks now supports listening to an audiobook while you browse your 
library, read other books, or explore the iBooks Store

· iPhone support for the USB Camera Adapter to import photos and videos

· Improved stability of Safari

· Improved stability of Podcasts

· Fixing an issue that caused mail attachments to be inaccessible for 
some users with POP email accounts

· Resolving an issue for some users that caused attachments to overlap 
text in mail

· Fixing an issue where Live Photos could have turned off after 
restoring from a previous iCloud backup

· Addressing an issue that could cause search in Contacts to display no 
results

· Resolving an issue that could have prevented Calendar from displaying 
all seven days in week view

· Fixing an issue where Camera screen on iPad could be black when 
attempting to capture video

· Addressing an issue that could cause instability in the Activity app 
when viewing the day of Daylight Savings Time transition

· Fixing an issue that could prevent data from appearing in Health

· Fixing an issue that could prevent Wallet updates and Lock screen 
alerts from displaying

· Addressing an issue where updating iOS could prevent an alarm from 
going off

· Fixing an issue where some users were unable to login to Find my 
iPhone

· Fixing an issue that prevented some manual iCloud Backups from 
completing

· Addressing an issue where using the iPad keyboard could 
unintentionally trigger text selection mode

· Improved keyboard responsiveness when using Quick Reply

· Improved punctuation input on the 10-key Chinese (Pinyin & Stroke) 
keyboards with new expanded view of punctuation symbols and better predictions

· Fixing an issue on Cyrillic keyboards where caps lock would be 
enabled when typing in URL or email fields

· Accessibility improvements

oFixing issues with VoiceOver when using Camera face detection 

oAdding support for VoiceOver to wake up the screen

oAdding support for VoiceOver to invoke app switcher with 3D Touch gesture

oFixing an issue with Guided Access when trying to end phone calls

oImproved functionality for Switch Control users when using 3D Touch

oFixing an issue with speech rate of Speak Screen

·  Siri support for Arabic (Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates) 

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RE: Music not playing in correct order

[Don & Cher]

See if it is listing the tracks alphabetically. If so, you will need to go into 
view options and choose track order or manual order (whatever it's called).

Cher


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Agent086b
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:18 PM
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Subject: Music not playing in correct order

Hi all,
on our iPad when playing albums using the music app to play music stored on the 
Mac albums do not play in the order of the tracks.
I wondered if shuffle may be turned on. We have tried to tap the shuffle button 
but this makes no difference . We used to be able to select the first album 
track and the rest would follow. anybody got any ideas?
Thanks for any help as this is really annoying.
Max. 

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RE: Music not playing in correct order

[Don & Cher]

The view options are available in iTunes- just re-read your post and noticed 
that you are having this issue in iPad- not iTunes. Sorry- don't have an iPad.

Cher


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 5:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Music not playing in correct order

You might check to see if shuffle has gotten turned on by mistake.


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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Music not playing in correct order

Hi,
all tracks are listed in track order track 1 track 2 etc. I can not find a view 
option in the Music App. Are you able to tell me where to look for this setting?
Thanks again for the help.
Max.


> On 8 Dec 2015, at 12:21 AM, Don & Cher <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> See if it is listing the tracks alphabetically. If so, you will need to go 
> into view options and choose track order or manual order (whatever it's 
> called).
> 
> Cher
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Agent086b
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 10:18 PM
> To: iPhone List >
> Subject: Music not playing in correct order
> 
> Hi all,
> on our iPad when playing albums using the music app to play music stored on 
> the Mac albums do not play in the order of the tracks.
> I wondered if shuffle may be turned on. We have tried to tap the shuffle 
> button but this makes no difference . We used to be able to select the first 
> album track and the rest would follow. anybody got any ideas?
> Thanks for any help as this is really annoying.
> Max. 
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RE: how do you tell songs that are better copies from your originals in your music after iTunes match

[Don & Cher]

If you imported songs from CDs using Apple Lossless, they will have much higher 
bit rates than songs purchased from Apple. In your list of songs, use the view 
options to turn on bps. However, I agree that at this point your original 
Imported songs have been replaced by iMatch versions.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how do you tell songs that are better copies from your originals 
in your music after itunes match

 

Yes, I didn’t think I’d have two copies but was wondering which ones were 
better kb256 copies.  Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do you tell songs that are better copies from your originals 
in your music after itunes match

 

Hi Larry,
I'm not sure what you mean with her question. You will only have one copy of 
each item after iTunes match is done. Were you thinking you would have two 
copies, when the original and the other one from the server? Or were you 
wondering how to tell which of the songs is from the server and which is still 
your original after the match is done? I'm actually not sure anymore how to do 
that. It seems to me that it used to say next to the song something about cloud 
or local or match or something. I can't remember. But mine doesn't say that 
anymore and hasn't for sometime. Generally speaking, if the things that you are 
matching were all ripped from CDs, and you did it at a high bit rate, the 
server will probably not replace what you had. But if you ripped it at say 120 
8K bps, then those will be replaced, assuming they are in the Apple music 
collection and can therefore be replaced. Otherwise, those will just be 
uploaded to the cloud and will be available to you on all of your i-devices and 
your PC of course.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:

Hi.  ITunes match is matching now.  How do you tell in your music in itunes 
which are better copies from the server?

 

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Changing iTunes 'Songs' view to sort by title

[Don & Cher]

I Googled my question about changing back to sort by title but cannot
interpret this answer using a screenreader and keyboard. Can anyone help?
Thanks.

Cher

 

List view

To view your music by Song, Album, Artist, Composer, or Genre, click the
current view under the Search tool in the upper-right corner. A pop-up menu
of other views will appear. When you select one of the views in the menu,
you'll see additional options for the view you're currently on, like Sort By
Title or Rating.

 

 

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RE: Changing iTunes 'Songs' view to sort by title

[Don & Cher]

I got it, but still have a million questions about how I accidentally changed 
it and especially where you have to be when you press control-J to get the view 
options, what you do next, etc. The sort by field kept showing up as a 'read 
only' which said nothing according to JAWS Maybe if you can see the screen the 
view options make sense, but with a screenreader it's a jungle out there :(

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don & Cher
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing iTunes 'Songs' view to sort by title

 

I Googled my question about changing back to sort by title but cannot interpret 
this answer using a screenreader and keyboard. Can anyone help? Thanks.

Cher

 

List view

To view your music by Song, Album, Artist, Composer, or Genre, click the 
current view under the Search tool in the upper-right corner. A pop-up menu of 
other views will appear. When you select one of the views in the menu, you'll 
see additional options for the view you're currently on, like Sort By Title or 
Rating.

 

 

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iTunes library listing songs by artist- not title- HELP!

[Don & Cher]

Songs are now showing by artist rather than by title- please tell me how to
change it back. I only wanted to get genre and number of plays turned off in
the view and messed up something- a total mystery to me how that happened! I
hate the view options in the iTunes library because I don't understand how
they are laid out and can easily change something without any desire to do
so!

 

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RE: Can't get out of store in iTunes 12.3

[Don & Cher]

Thanks Sieghard and Anna- especially for all the effort you put into great 
answers. I am so used to using the shortcuts I mentioned that when I didn't get 
the expected results yesterday, it never even occurred to me to go the long way 
around and tab. Apparently a bad hair day infected my brain ;) I'm so used to 
having unpleasant surprises in these recent iTunes versions that I hit the 
panic and frustration buttons immediately and just gave up the ghost. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 8:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Can't get out of store in iTunes 12.3

 

Hi Don,

 

The iTunes Store in the latest version of iTunes (actually I think in all 12.x 
versions) is a radio button so getting back to your own library is simply a 
matter of checking one of the other radio buttons like My Music, Playlists or 
the “For You radio button of Apple Music.

When the iTunes Store radio button is checked, F6 takes me to 3 different 
places, the virtual iTunes store web page, the search field and the balance in 
my account. Not sure what this will say if you don’t have a balance, I still 
have $7.17 from my last gift card.

If you start with the search field and then tab, you get Music, Movies, TV 
Shows etc., those are all regular checkboxes and they are the same whether you 
are in the store section or your library section. Only difference is that when 
you have the iTunes Store radio button checked, checking one of these 
checkboxes, for example Music, will take you to the music page in iTunes, check 
apps and you see new apps or suggested apps and you can of course search for 
content.

When you are done, just go back to the search field with F6, then tab past the 
checkboxes for music, movies etc. until you get to the My Music radio button, 
check it and now your shortcuts like Control+1, Control+2 and so on will once 
again take you to the appropriate sections of your own library.

Actually, I just noticed that if you select “Apps” when you have the iTunes 
Store active, it will check the “App Store” checkbox, but here you also have 
radio buttons like “My Apps”, “my iPhone apps”, “My iPad Apps”, “Updates” etc. 
If you select any of these it will also take you back out of the store section 
back to your library section and you can use the shortcut keys to navigate to 
whatever section you want.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can't get out of store in iTunes 12.3

 

In version 12.3, Neither Control-1 nor Control-F is moving me to where I can 
exit the iTunes store on my PC. Even after I closed the program with Control-W 
and then re-opened iTunes, the program opened right back into the store. Only 
Alt-F4 got me out far enough that I was back in iTunes after re-opening. Anyone 
have ideas? Thanks much.

 

Cher

 

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Can't get out of store in iTunes 12.3

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In version 12.3, Neither Control-1 nor Control-F is moving me to where I can
exit the iTunes store on my PC. Even after I closed the program with
Control-W and then re-opened iTunes, the program opened right back into the
store. Only Alt-F4 got me out far enough that I was back in iTunes after
re-opening. Anyone have ideas? Thanks much.

 

Cher

 

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RE: So I have copied my iTunes folder off my thumb drive in to iTunes so am I all good now

[Don & Cher]

Dear Alan-

Recently I was trying to replace songs deleted from iTunes and restored from 
Recycle Bin. Could not figure out the procedure for adding back to library- 
even after reading several rather unspecific web answers. When you told Jen to 
"browse to the top folder", it seems like this would always be the 
iTunes>media>music folder- would it Not? Seems like this would add tons of 
duplicates to the library. Apparently I'm missing a step or two here :(

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: So I have copied my itunes folder off my thumb drive in to itunes 
so am I all good now

 

Jan,

 

If I understand your post, you've copied all your iTunes media content which 
came from a flash drive where it was pasted from an older system to your music 
folder on your laptop.

 

iTunes manages all the media on your computer through the iTunes library which 
is a file with a series of pointers amongst other things to the actual music 
files on your computer. You will need to go into iTunes, and select File, add 
folder to library, and browse to the top folder under which you pasted all your 
media on your laptop in order to get the iTunes library populated. Depending on 
how much content you have, this might take a few minutes for iTunes to complete.

 

Good luck.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jen Colley
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: So I have copied my itunes folder off my thumb drive in to itunes so 
am I all good now

 

Hi,  

I have copied my itunes folder from my thumb drive in to my music folder on my 
lap top.  

should I be able to play all my music now or is there another step I must 
complete before everything is all set.  

Thanks.  

Jen  

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RE: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists

[Don & Cher]

Yes, read below... Are we the only ones using iTunes for playlists?

 

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:23 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists

 

These are the messages I've sent to Apple re this problem. I hope those of you 
who have noticed issues are also writing :)

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:19 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com'
Subject: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes

 

These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were 
created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3:

 

*Selection:

Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer seems 
to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for cut or 
copy result in a "nothing selected" error message. It is impossible to 
re-arrange the order of songs created under these versions of iTunes. The only 
playlists which are still functional are those which were created in prior 
versions of iTunes.

 

*Navigation: 

Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or so lines, the 
selection focus is lost. You cannot read the information or proceed further in 
that direction without first arrowing backward one line- which then allows you 
to move forward one more line- thus advancing only one line at a time 
(backwards then forwards) in a see-saw fashion.  The cursor actually does move 
but the focus seems to be lost and the new song information is not read.

Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or beginning of the 
playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on that line. It is necessary 
to arrow away from that song and back before the information can be read.

Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read the information for the 
song on which the cursor lands.

 

*Nuisance artwork:

With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line of the playlist. Even 
copying the songs from an old playlist without artwork into a new one created 
under these versions produces a playlist with the artwork icons. 

 

*Nuisance iTunes becoming unresponsive:

Accidental use of the standard windows command Control-Home results in iTunes 
freezing. This command is so commonly used for various purposes by keyboard 
users that this is bothersome.

 

This is my previous message to you re these issues:

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com'
Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1

 

Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not accessible to persons 
relying on keyboard accessibility to work with them. I phoned Apple 
Accessibility recently to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He 
verified that with the latest iTunes, you cannot use keyboard shortcuts to 
select, copy or move songs in new playlists with the keyboard (using a PC). He 
verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have JAWS installed, and 
could not perform these functions either. I can still use all these keyboard 
commands within playlists created prior to installing the new iTunes- but even 
if I duplicate an old playlist and rename it (so I can have a editable 
playlist) the newly duplicated playlist is non-editable- apparently because it 
was duplicated under the new iTunes. The only way I can add songs to one of 
these new playlists is by using 'add to playlist' on the context menu- and the 
order of songs is unchangeable by this method- I.E. the order you add the songs 
is unchangeable after the fact. So, basically playlists are not very useful.

 

Cher

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists

 

I was told by one accessability tech to talk to my screen reader developer.  
For an Apple Program?

 

- Original Message - 

From: Don  <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> & Cher 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:22 PM

Subject: Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists

 

These are the messages I've sent to Apple re this problem. I hope those of you 
who have noticed issues are also writing :)

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:19 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com'
Subject: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes

 

These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were 
created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3:

 

*Selection:

Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer seems 
to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for cut or 
copy result in a "nothing selecte

Broken accessibility of iTunes playlists

[Don & Cher]

These are the messages I've sent to Apple re this problem. I hope those of
you who have noticed issues are also writing :)

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:19 PM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com'
Subject: Broken playlist accessibility in iTunes

 

These problems refer to keyboard accessibility issues in playlists and were
created in iTunes 12.2.1 and continue in 12.3:

 

*Selection:

Within playlists created with these iTunes versions, selection no longer
seems to follow the cursor keys- so standard windows keyboard commands for
cut or copy result in a "nothing selected" error message. It is impossible
to re-arrange the order of songs created under these versions of iTunes. The
only playlists which are still functional are those which were created in
prior versions of iTunes.

 

*Navigation: 

Using the arrow keys, after arrowing up or down for 15 or so lines, the
selection focus is lost. You cannot read the information or proceed further
in that direction without first arrowing backward one line- which then
allows you to move forward one more line- thus advancing only one line at a
time (backwards then forwards) in a see-saw fashion.  The cursor actually
does move but the focus seems to be lost and the new song information is not
read.

Using the home or end key moves the cursor to the end or beginning of the
playlist; but JAWS does not read the information on that line. It is
necessary to arrow away from that song and back before the information can
be read.

Similarly, the page up and page down keys will not read the information for
the song on which the cursor lands.

 

*Nuisance artwork:

With these iTunes versions, artwork appears on each line of the playlist.
Even copying the songs from an old playlist without artwork into a new one
created under these versions produces a playlist with the artwork icons. 

 

*Nuisance iTunes becoming unresponsive:

Accidental use of the standard windows command Control-Home results in
iTunes freezing. This command is so commonly used for various purposes by
keyboard users that this is bothersome.

 

This is my previous message to you re these issues:

 

From: Don & Cher [mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:09 AM
To: 'accessibil...@apple.com'
Subject: Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1

 

Since installing iTunes 12.2.1, new playlists are not accessible to persons
relying on keyboard accessibility to work with them. I phoned Apple
Accessibility recently to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He
verified that with the latest iTunes, you cannot use keyboard shortcuts to
select, copy or move songs in new playlists with the keyboard (using a PC).
He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did not have JAWS installed,
and could not perform these functions either. I can still use all these
keyboard commands within playlists created prior to installing the new
iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and rename it (so I can have
a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist is non-editable-
apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes. The only way I
can add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add to playlist' on
the context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by this method-
I.E. the order you add the songs is unchangeable after the fact. So,
basically playlists are not very useful.

 

Cher

 

 

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VO gestures with Safari

[Don & Cher]

OK- never have used Safari on the phone. Looks like my husband may have
several pages open- and I don't know how to close them. Also cannot locate a
list of gestures for Safari. HELP please please :)

 

Cher

 

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

[Don Cher]

Have done this within the last few weeks with no problem... so don't know why 
anyone would have stated this. I don't have a MAC, so hope someone will chime 
in on that side of technology.

Cher


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

I tried adding in iTunes early in this process, but was told that currently 
playlists that you create in iTunes don't sync to the phone, for whatever 
reason. Also, I have gone from the PC to a Mac in the last month.

Wayne

On 8/24/15, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 As a temporary work-around, have you tried adding the songs to a 
 playlist in iTunes on the PC and then just syncing that playlist with your 
 phone?
 Sometimes it seems easier than adding individual songs for me.

 Cher
 and

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:34 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: [Bulk] Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

 All,
 As the subject says I am having trouble adding songs to a playlist in 
 Apple Music. The playlist is for songs on my phone. I have reported 
 this to Apple Accessibility with no resolution. I created two 
 playlists on my phone, 1 which has all of my downloaded music and one 
 which is much smaller and has worship/praise songs. The worship 
 playlist for a long time had 33 songs and I was not able to add any songs to 
 it no matter how many times I tried.
 After iOS 8.4.1 was released, the worship playlist went up to around 
 70 songs but I haven't been able to add any more. I recently deleted a 
 couple of songs from the list and tried to add one but no matter what 
 I do nothing is added. All this time, I am told that the songs were 
 added but then when I back out of the playlist and go back into it, I 
 am still told that I have 70 songs. To add songs to my playlist, I am 
 using both of the following
 methods: searching for the songs in my collection from the larger 
 playlist, using the actions rodar item to find more, then selecting 
 add to playlist and choosing the worship playlist. I am also hitting 
 the edit button within the worship playlist and choosing the songs 
 from there, and then swiping up/down in the actions rodar till I hear 
 add songs to playlist and double tapping that.

 I am totally confused and frustrated as to why this is not working.
 Sometimes I have tried to add between 10 and 15 songs to the worship 
 list, and even though I am told they were added, the total number still says 
 70.
 Anyone have any ideas? For perspective, my larger playlist with all of 
 my music has around 1700 songs, so it can't be the number of songs in 
 the smaller playlist. Using iOS 8.4.1 on an iPhone 6.

 Many thanks in advance,
 Wayne Merritt

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RE: [Bulk] Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

[Don Cher]

As a temporary work-around, have you tried adding the songs to a playlist in 
iTunes on the PC and then just syncing that playlist with your phone? Sometimes 
it seems easier than adding individual songs for me.

Cher
and 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:34 PM
To: viphone
Subject: [Bulk] Trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple Music

All,
As the subject says I am having trouble adding songs to a playlist in Apple 
Music. The playlist is for songs on my phone. I have reported this to Apple 
Accessibility with no resolution. I created two playlists on my phone, 1 which 
has all of my downloaded music and one which is much smaller and has 
worship/praise songs. The worship playlist for a long time had 33 songs and I 
was not able to add any songs to it no matter how many times I tried. After iOS 
8.4.1 was released, the worship playlist went up to around 70 songs but I 
haven't been able to add any more. I recently deleted a couple of songs from 
the list and tried to add one but no matter what I do nothing is added. All 
this time, I am told that the songs were added but then when I back out of the 
playlist and go back into it, I am still told that I have 70 songs. To add 
songs to my playlist, I am using both of the following methods: searching for 
the songs in my collection from the larger playlist, using the actions rodar 
item to find more, then selecting add to playlist and choosing the worship 
playlist. I am also hitting the edit button within the worship playlist and 
choosing the songs from there, and then swiping up/down in the actions rodar 
till I hear add songs to playlist and double tapping that.

I am totally confused and frustrated as to why this is not working.
Sometimes I have tried to add between 10 and 15 songs to the worship list, and 
even though I am told they were added, the total number still says 70. Anyone 
have any ideas? For perspective, my larger playlist with all of my music has 
around 1700 songs, so it can't be the number of songs in the smaller playlist. 
Using iOS 8.4.1 on an iPhone 6.

Many thanks in advance,
Wayne Merritt

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

[Don Cher]

Please let me know if you can re-arrange the order of songs within one of the 
new playlists created under 12.2.2 and if you can, I'll install that latest 
update and see if it helps here. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

It is 12.2.2

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry, I see that although your subject says version 12.2.1, one of your 
messages said that your new version is 12.2.2. I had missed that message until 
now- so is 12.2.2 actually what you are using? That update I did not yet 
download because Apple sent me a link to download an older version in order to 
get my functionality back, but I've just been sitting tight to see if they fix 
it before going back down.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Haven’t tried that but will and let you know.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- But after that, can you go into the new playlist and rearrange the songs 
with cut and paste keystrokes? Or by any other method? This is where the 
problem lies.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

I did create a play list, select tracks from an album and copy them to the new 
play list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

If you create a new playlist, can you select songs and edit the playlist with 
the keyboard shortcuts of control-c and control-x? This is the functionality I 
lost when I installed 12.2.1 and Apple verified that this was removed in this 
version.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

My version says itunes 12.2.2.2 and it seems to be working fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- This is the version that destroyed editing in my playlists. Are you sure 
about your version? I got a notification to download a new version (12.2.2) a 
couple of days ago- but have not done so, fearing to make things worse- if 
possible ;)

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] itunes 12.2.1

 

Hi.  It seems the latest update to ITunes has fixed the ability to add to play 
lists.  Every item in my new playlist begins with the voiced “artwork”, but I 
can live with that.

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

[Don Cher]

If you create a new playlist, can you select songs and edit the playlist with 
the keyboard shortcuts of control-c and control-x? This is the functionality I 
lost when I installed 12.2.1 and Apple verified that this was removed in this 
version.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

My version says itunes 12.2.2.2 and it seems to be working fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- This is the version that destroyed editing in my playlists. Are you sure 
about your version? I got a notification to download a new version (12.2.2) a 
couple of days ago- but have not done so, fearing to make things worse- if 
possible ;)

 

Cher

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] itunes 12.2.1

 

Hi.  It seems the latest update to ITunes has fixed the ability to add to play 
lists.  Every item in my new playlist begins with the voiced “artwork”, but I 
can live with that.

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

[Don Cher]

Larry, I see that although your subject says version 12.2.1, one of your 
messages said that your new version is 12.2.2. I had missed that message until 
now- so is 12.2.2 actually what you are using? That update I did not yet 
download because Apple sent me a link to download an older version in order to 
get my functionality back, but I've just been sitting tight to see if they fix 
it before going back down.

 

Cher

 

 

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Haven’t tried that but will and let you know.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- But after that, can you go into the new playlist and rearrange the songs 
with cut and paste keystrokes? Or by any other method? This is where the 
problem lies.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

I did create a play list, select tracks from an album and copy them to the new 
play list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

If you create a new playlist, can you select songs and edit the playlist with 
the keyboard shortcuts of control-c and control-x? This is the functionality I 
lost when I installed 12.2.1 and Apple verified that this was removed in this 
version.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

My version says itunes 12.2.2.2 and it seems to be working fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- This is the version that destroyed editing in my playlists. Are you sure 
about your version? I got a notification to download a new version (12.2.2) a 
couple of days ago- but have not done so, fearing to make things worse- if 
possible ;)

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] itunes 12.2.1

 

Hi.  It seems the latest update to ITunes has fixed the ability to add to play 
lists.  Every item in my new playlist begins with the voiced “artwork”, but I 
can live with that.

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

[Don Cher]

Larry- But after that, can you go into the new playlist and rearrange the songs 
with cut and paste keystrokes? Or by any other method? This is where the 
problem lies.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

I did create a play list, select tracks from an album and copy them to the new 
play list.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

If you create a new playlist, can you select songs and edit the playlist with 
the keyboard shortcuts of control-c and control-x? This is the functionality I 
lost when I installed 12.2.1 and Apple verified that this was removed in this 
version.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

My version says itunes 12.2.2.2 and it seems to be working fine.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

 

Larry- This is the version that destroyed editing in my playlists. Are you sure 
about your version? I got a notification to download a new version (12.2.2) a 
couple of days ago- but have not done so, fearing to make things worse- if 
possible ;)

 

Cher

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] itunes 12.2.1

 

Hi.  It seems the latest update to ITunes has fixed the ability to add to play 
lists.  Every item in my new playlist begins with the voiced “artwork”, but I 
can live with that.

 

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RE: [Bulk] iTunes 12.2.1

[Don Cher]

Larry- This is the version that destroyed editing in my playlists. Are you sure 
about your version? I got a notification to download a new version (12.2.2) a 
couple of days ago- but have not done so, fearing to make things worse- if 
possible ;)

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] itunes 12.2.1

 

Hi.  It seems the latest update to ITunes has fixed the ability to add to play 
lists.  Every item in my new playlist begins with the voiced “artwork”, but I 
can live with that.

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] unable to populate a new playlist in the newest iTunes

[Don Cher]

I've spoken with 3 different folks at Apple Accessibility re this- and none 
were aware till I pointed it out. They urged everyone who uses iTunes playlists 
to contact accessibil...@apple.com and express their problems. The tech who 
verified that this functionality has been removed, said that many changes were 
made in version 12.2.1- using drag and drop to work with the new playlists. 

 

Cher

. a lot of 

 

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Gmail
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] unable to populate a new playlist in the newest 
iTunes

 

So, to be clear, they removed the ability to do all these things to a new 
playlist in iTunes 12.2 point whatever with a keyboard, not broke it? If they 
accidentally broke it, that's one thing; but if they took it out on purpose, 
that's completely another thing. If they took it out on purpose, I'm definitely 
complaining.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 10, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

As I wrote the list a few weeks ago, the only thing I could do with playlists 
created with iTunes 12.2.1 was use the context menu to add songs in the exact 
order I wanted. Apple Accessibility verified that the functionality to select, 
copy, cut and re-arrange items in a playlist was removed in this latest update. 
The tech could only do these things with a mouse- no keyboard accessibility. 
Please report to Apple- I seem to be the only one complaining.

BTW, my old playlists still function normally- with full edit capability.

 

Cher

 

 

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Subject: [Bulk] unable to populate a new playlist in the newest itunes

 

I can create the new playlist but can’t get entries into it no matter what I do.

 

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RE: [Bulk] unable to populate a new playlist in the newest iTunes

[Don Cher]

As I wrote the list a few weeks ago, the only thing I could do with playlists 
created with iTunes 12.2.1 was use the context menu to add songs in the exact 
order I wanted. Apple Accessibility verified that the functionality to select, 
copy, cut and re-arrange items in a playlist was removed in this latest update. 
The tech could only do these things with a mouse- no keyboard accessibility. 
Please report to Apple- I seem to be the only one complaining.

BTW, my old playlists still function normally- with full edit capability.

 

Cher

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] unable to populate a new playlist in the newest itunes

 

I can create the new playlist but can’t get entries into it no matter what I do.

 

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Keyboard accessibility to playlists broken in iTunes 12.2.1 (was New playlists a nightmare with latest iTunes)

[Don Cher]

Since I received no response from any list members to my query about broken
playlists in the newest iTunes, I phoned Apple Accessibility this afternoon
to see if the tech could replicate my problem. He verified that with the
latest iTunes, you cannot select, copy or cut songs in new playlists with
the keyboard (using a PC). He verified that it is not a JAWS issue as he did
not have JAWS installed, and could not perform these functions either. I can
still use all these keyboard commands within playlists created prior to
installing the new iTunes- but even if I duplicate an old playlist and
rename it (so I can have a editable playlist) the newly duplicated playlist
is non-editable- apparently because it was duplicated under the new iTunes.
The only way I can add songs to one of these new playlists is by using 'add
to playlist' on the context menu- and the order of songs is unchangeable by
this method- I.E. the order you add the songs is unchangeable after the
fact. If you use playlists, I hope you will contact Apple Accessibility re
this. 

 

Cher

 

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New playlists a nightmare with latest iTunes using latest JFW16

[Don Cher]

In iTunes on the PC, attempting to create a new playlist in latest iTunes: 

.shows previously hidden artwork

.I cannot select songs- so cannot copy, or rearrange order- so must add
songs in the exact order desired

.the 'edit playlist' buttons deselect the playlist and reverts to entire
music library (you are instructed to use this button to add songs to a
playlist)

 

My old playlists are unaffected- I can select, copy, delete and rearrange as
before. Anyone else seeing this?

 

Cher

 

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Restoring albums deleted from iTunes- but saved on a backup

[Don Cher]

I deleted all the songs on 2 albums that were 256 bits so I could import the
CDs again using Apple lossless. I only then found that the CD cases were
empty. I had saved the 'My Music' folder on a backup drive earlier that day,
but need to know exactly what all needs to be copied back into the hard
drive's iTunes folder in order to restore all iTunes functionality. (This is
not a windows backup file, just a straight copy of the entire My Music
folder, so that part should be straightforward.) Thanks much.

Cher

 

 

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Best iTunes settings for importing songs from CD (was iTunes Match Bit Rate is less than 256kbps)

[Don Cher]

/importing-into-itunes.html

 

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Subject: iTunes Match  Bit Rate is less than 256kbps

 

I turned on the bit rate in the view menu to see which tracks will be upgraded 
if I subscribe to Match- and guess what? All the music I've imported from CDs 
is showing up with bit rates much higher than 256 already. Thought that 
imported CDs were supposed to have a much lower bit rate- so am thoroughly 
confused. Does this make sense? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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Solved- RE: Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

[Don Cher]

Problem solved- Installing the latest iTunes had turned on menus in the View 
menu for some reason- causing them to appear in the tab order of the F6 key. 
This has never happened before, so did not think to check for that.

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:59 PM
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Subject: Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

 

Not happy with the application menu (file, edit, view, controls, etc.) 
appearing in the tab order of the new iTunes. After Control-F to go to the 
search box, these menus jump in before the series of radio buttons. Anyone 
figured out a way to make them go bye-bye?

 

Cher

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iTunes Match Bit Rate is less than 256kbps

[Don Cher]

I turned on the bit rate in the view menu to see which tracks will be
upgraded if I subscribe to Match- and guess what? All the music I've
imported from CDs is showing up with bit rates much higher than 256 already.
Thought that imported CDs were supposed to have a much lower bit rate- so am
thoroughly confused. Does this make sense? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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RE: Downloaded 8.04- not yet installed due to concerns...

[Don Cher]

There was an article posted here citing numerous problems with GPS after the 
update.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloaded 8.04- not yet installed due to concerns...

No VoiceOver issues here, can't comment on GPS as don't use it, but haven't 
seen any concerns on here.

On 06/07/2015 23:12, Don  Cher wrote:
 Am especially concerned about reported Voiceover and GPS problems 
 after update. Wondering if these issues are isolated or wide-spread. 
 Would appreciate your experiences.

 Cher


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RE: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

[Don Cher]

What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would have 
saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.

- Original Message -
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Music review


Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably
the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few
weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes
mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access
to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.

On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup? 
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review



 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged
 and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and disassembled and
 disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I have tens of thousands 
 of
 songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my external harddrive, and all my
 folders were messed up, songs missing, artwork, missing, things renamed,
 things deleted, replaced, and all manner of havoc.  I spent years building
 and organizing my library only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t 
 even
 begin to think of what I’ve lost.







 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gmail
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review



 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn on
 iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have said 
 that
 albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork was messed up, 
 and
 other not nice things. Someone even said that iTunes had deleted their
 songs, and replace them with ones that had DRM. On hearing all these not
 great comments about iCloud Music Library, I plan to avoid it for a while
 until Apple gets their crap together. They seem to have problems with 
 cloud
 stuff. I heard that iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what 
 they
 are/were, but when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice
 Dream Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.





 Thanks,

 Ari


 On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com
 mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com  wrote:

 Hi. I didn't read the whole article, but I don't need to read it to know
 that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like him need 
 to
 remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the times. If they stuck
 with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they wouldn't be where they're at
 today. Also, that guy is wrong about people who don't want to pay for the
 subscription to Apple Music because didn't Apple say that you can use some
 of the services if you opt out of the subscription?



 Shawn

 Sent from my White MacBook







 On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca  wrote:



 Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy

 https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.html

 Chris




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Getting Rid of Application Menu in Latest iTunes

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figured out a way to make them go bye-bye?

 

Cher

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Side Bar in latest iTunes

[Don Cher]

Isn't the keystroke to show/hide the side bar control-shift-S? If it does
anything in the latest iTunes, I can't tell the difference. Can anyone
figure it out?

 

Cher

 

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Downloaded 8.04- not yet installed due to concerns...

[Don Cher]

Am especially concerned about reported Voiceover and GPS problems after
update. Wondering if these issues are isolated or wide-spread. Would
appreciate your experiences.

Cher

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

[Don Cher]

So it's a pretty big deal if something goes wrong during the transition... 
Wonder if this is a good reason to delay 8.04 till the next update...
Cher


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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review

The iCloud Music Library is where all your purchased and matched content now 
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 On 6 Jul 2015, at 20:56, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 What is the iCloud music library being referenced in these posts? Thanks.
 Cher
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 7:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: Apple Music review
 
I would have thought that the external drive was the back up.  I would 
 have saving songs on that that were also contained on an internal drive.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 10:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 Sieghard as much as I agree with you about the backup, it's probably 
 the last thing he wanted to hear right now. I lost a 2tb drive a few 
 weeks ago that I didn't have completely backed up. I've had ITunes 
 mess up my library in the past. For this reason, I only give it access 
 to what I want on my phone. And yes I have more than one copy.
 
 On 7/2/15, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 While this is definitely not a good thing, did you not have a backup? 
 After
 all, what happens if your external drive had failed?
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of BrianMiller
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 I had this very thing happen to me… Somehow iCloud music library got 
 engaged and my entire library of ripped music got hijacked and 
 disassembled and disaggregated and otherwise entirely messed up… I 
 have tens of thousands of songs I ripped from CDs and stored on my 
 external harddrive, and all my folders were messed up, songs missing, 
 artwork, missing, things renamed, things deleted, replaced, and all 
 manner of havoc.  I spent years building and organizing my library 
 only to have it totally screwed up.  I can’t even begin to think of 
 what I’ve lost.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 7:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Apple Music review
 
 
 
 One thing I have heard that is quite dismaying is that when you turn 
 on iCloud Music Library, your library can get messed up. People have 
 said that albums were split into two separate albums, that artwork 
 was messed up, and other not nice things. Someone even said that 
 iTunes had deleted their songs, and replace them with ones that had 
 DRM. On hearing all these not great comments about iCloud Music 
 Library, I plan to avoid it for a while until Apple gets their crap 
 together. They seem to have problems with cloud stuff. I heard that 
 iCloud Drive had issues as well. I don't know what they are/were, but 
 when I heard that, especially from the developer of Voice Dream 
 Reader, I planned to avoid that, as well.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
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 know that the guy was basically bashing Apple Music. What people like 
 him need to remember is that Apple is trying to keep up with the 
 times. If they stuck with Steve Jobs' philosophy entirely, they 
 wouldn't be where they're at today. Also, that guy is wrong about 
 people who don't want to pay for the subscription to Apple Music 
 because didn't Apple say that you can use some of the services if you 
 opt out of the subscription?
 
 
 
 Shawn
 
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 On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca 
 mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca  wrote:
 
 
 
 Apple Music Is Hot — and Messy
 
 https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-music-is-hot-and-messy-122870003119.
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RE: [Bulk] Re: New Apple user agreement iTunes Match

[Don Cher]

OK, thanks, Anna. The wording scared me as I'm about to dive into iTunes Match 
for the first time, but do not intend to keep subscribing as any new music is 
basically always being purchased from the iTunes store anyway. So this will 
work for me the way you have clarified the new agreement.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: New Apple user agreement  iTunes Match

 

Hi,

 

Any music on your computer stays on your computer after your iTunes Match 
subscription ends, including tracks you've downloaded to replace lower-quality 
versions in your library. What goes away is your ability to download tracks you 
haven't purchased from iTunes to your devices from iCloud. You'll have to sync 
those tracks from your computer instead.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

 

I think that always was. If your subscription expires, that stuff disappears 
from your library. I would assume that Itunes Match probably is DRM protected 
if you end up replacing your iTunes library with it instead of what you 
originally uploaded for the higher quality, but I could be wrong on that.

 

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From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:34 PM

Subject: New Apple user agreement  iTunes Match

 

The new agreement states, You will no longer be able to access your iTunes 
Match Content from

iTunes Match after the end of your subscription period.  Is anyone clear on 
what exactly this means?

 

Cher

 

 

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New Apple user agreement iTunes Match

[Don Cher]

The new agreement states, You will no longer be able to access your iTunes
Match Content from

iTunes Match after the end of your subscription period.  Is anyone clear on
what exactly this means?

 

Cher

 

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iTunes Match- detecting which songs were replaced

[Don Cher]

If you subscribe to iTunes Match, how do you easily tell which songs were
replaced and which were not? Do you have to go into 'Get Info' on each one
to see if the additional tags have been added or what? Thanks.

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: iTunes Match- detecting which songs were replaced

[Don Cher]

Hi Anna- Not sure why I would want to keep the lower quality originals if I can 
keep the higher quality matches forever- even if I later unsubscribe- as 
Jonathan mentioned last week. Could you elaborate just a bit re this? 

Thanks so much for the very helpful response.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: iTunes Match- detecting which songs were replaced

 

Hi,

 

iTunes doesn't change any tracks in the library on your computer. It just makes 
those tracks available for download by all your devices. So if you have an 
album that you know was ripped at a low bitrate, and you know that the album 
was matched with tracks in the iTunes store, you can delete the original 
tracks, while keeping copies in iCloud, and then download the higher-quality 
matched versions. One way to find out whether a track was matched with one in 
the iTunes store or uploaded is to use Get Info on that file and check on the 
File tab. It's also possible to have this information displayed in a column, 
along with the track name, artist, and other info. I'm not sure how you set 
this up anymore though; it used to be done through the View Options dialog that 
you get when you type control-J on a PC or Command-J on a Mac. I just tried 
this, though, and couldn't find the option to show iCloud status. But at least 
you now know it can be done.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On May 11, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

If you subscribe to iTunes Match, how do you easily tell which songs were 
replaced and which were not? Do you have to go into 'Get Info' on each one to 
see if the additional tags have been added or what? Thanks.

Cher

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: iTunes Match- detecting which songs were replaced

[Don Cher]

So, can you download to your PC so that playlists you burn will have the higher 
quality sound? This would be my motivation for subscribing- to burn better 
quality disks, not particularly to improve playback on my phone. 

 

Great informative responses Anna and Jonathan :) Will file away for use after 
subscription.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: iTunes Match- detecting which songs were replaced

 

Hi Sher, as Anna says, it's not so much that the tracks get replaced on your 
local computer, but they do get replaced in the cloud if iTunes finds a match, 
which is I think what you're asking about.

You can build a smart playlist to do this. When I first did iTunes Match, I was 
able to build a smart playlist that gave me every song that had been matched, 
so I could download them all in one hit. It was a pretty painless process. 
Smart playlists are incredibly powerful little critters.

Here is the article that helped me do this. It's a few years old now but the 
concepts should still apply.

http://www.macworld.com/article/1163620/how_to_upgrade_tracks_to_itunes_match_fast.html

Jonathan Mosen

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On 12/05/2015, at 3:13 am, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

If you subscribe to iTunes Match, how do you easily tell which songs were 
replaced and which were not? Do you have to go into 'Get Info' on each one to 
see if the additional tags have been added or what? Thanks.

Cher

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] A question about iTunes match.

[Don Cher]

Jonathan- If you import from commercial CDs though, and iTunes seems to 
recognize the CD, then no tagging is necessary, right?

 

I have a few playlists burned by someone else also, is there a tutorial on how 
to tag the songs as necessary for iTunes Match? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

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Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] A question about iTunes match.

 

Hi Tom, I used Winamp.

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On 29/04/2015, at 1:01 am, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Jonathan, what did you use to tag your vynal?

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bulk] A question about iTunes match.

Hi Alan, the only content you have access to as an iTunes Match subscriber is 
content you already own, either through purchasing it from iTunes itself, or by 
going through the quite lengthy process of uploading your own music to it. It's 
called iTunes match because a series of algorithms try to match what you upload 
with content iTunes has in the store. When it finds a match, it replaces the 
copy you uploaded with its copy. 

Tagging is key here. For example, a few years ago, I digitised my vinyl 
collection. I tagged it correctly, that is to say I created tags for every file 
with the artist, the title of the song, and the album it came from. When I 
uploaded 25,000 songs to iTunes Match, which sadly is the maximum content 
you're allowed to upload that wasn't purchased from Apple, i was thrilled to 
note that a lot of the vinyl I uploaded was replaced by high bit-rate, crackle 
free copies from Apple's library. Absolutely fantastic. So I deleted my vinyl 
rips and downloaded the Apple versions. I get to keep them, even if at some 
time in the future I choose not to renew my iTunes Match subscription.

It's quite the bargain.

Jonathan Mosen

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On 28/04/2015, at 8:39 am, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Okay thanks. That makes sense. You're entitled to get an iTunes Match version 
of any music you're deemed to own but you're not entitled to download a track 
you were eligible to listen to as a Match subscriber but never purchased or 
already had in your personal library. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone




On Apr 27, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:

Hi alan,

iTunes Match is not like a typical streaming service. It basically lets you 
treat the music you get from places other than iTunes as though it was iTunes 
music. It goes through your music collection, and when it encounters songs 
available in the iTunes store, it makes copies of those songs available to you. 
When it encounters songs not available in the iTunes store, it copies those 
songs to iCloud. If the copies of the songs in the iTunes store that you have 
are of lower quality than those in the store, you can delete your versions and 
replace them with the ones from the iTunes store. You can stream or download 
any of the music to your iPhone. And if you stop using the service, you still 
have all the music, including any tracks that you downloaded from the iTunes 
store.

HTH,
Anna






On Apr 27, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:

Anna, 

Maybe you can help me understand iTunes Match by answering this. I think of 
Match as being a type of streaming music service. My understanding is that 
music streaming services will let you play their content located in the cloud 
as long as you're paying their subscription fee. I didn't think these streaming 
services let you download anything to your device as you do when you purchase 
digital songs. 

Is my understanding correct? 

Thanks in advance. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone




On Apr 27, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:

Hi,

The music you bought from iTunes will still be available in iCloud. Once iTunes 
Match expires, you'll need to sync with iTunes to get other music onto your 
phone.

HTH,
Anna






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Hi Anna!  Thank you very much for your help.  Now once I turned off the
automatic renew for iTunes match it said that after my expiration date my
music will no longer be in the cloud.  Do I need to download everything on
to my phone now before match expires?

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RE: [Bulk] Re: App tells me to Swipe Up Or Down?

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Try a short swipe- a bit more like what I'd call a flick rather than a swipe. 
HTH

Cher


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Subject: [Bulk] Re: App tells me to Swipe Up Or Down?

hmm ok will give it another try. Thanks.

At 11:58 AM 4/23/2015, you wrote:
Hi Chris,

I think this may be where the phone is a little smarter than I am. 
When this happens, try the swipe. If it doesn't work, set your rotor to 
actions if available. I have seen this too and swiping worked.
Not sure how either but it just worked.

Jenn and Kumi




On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:54 AM -0700, Chris Smart 
mailto:csma...@cogeco.cacsma...@cogeco.ca wrote:


Hi folks.


In an app, I hear swipe up or down to change environment when I

touch a certain spot on the screen.  However, since Voiceover uses

swipe up/down for other things, how do I perform this gesture? What's

the VO alternative for swipe up/down?


thanks for any suggestions,


Chris


P.S. the app works with Muse, the first electroencephalography

headband for home use, for biofeedback, brain training etc. I'll be

writing up a thorough review for AppleVis soon.  The folks at

http://www.choosemuse.com/

after I contacted them, went from a completely 100% inaccessible app

to almost 100% accessible, in under three months! They even extended

the 30-day return policy out to six months for me, so I would have a

chance to try the new and improved app.  Amazing company!


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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: Any problems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

[Don Cher]

Thanks, I was wondering the same things...

And, when I took that apple link Neal provided
 https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1784?locale=en_US 
the famous 'alert message' was a .jpg file that I had to print and get someone 
else to read.  And, the alert spoke only about problems with playing video. So, 
your reassurance helps a bunch.

Cher



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: Any problems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

You will get the prompt to update whether you need this update or not. 
Note the message below deals with downloading the installer directly and not 
the update to iTunes itself. If you get the popup to update iTunes then go for 
it. I did it, and it wasn't an issue. I do have a 64-bit system, but I have no 
idea if Apple considers my graphics adapter to be old or low end.

On 04/20/2015 01:49 PM, Don  Cher wrote:
 So, if the update notification comes up automatically as it usually 
 does, does that mean you do need the update? I do not see the 'alert 
 message' that is supposed to be quoted somewhere in this message and 
 an thus confused.

 Cher

 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 12, 2015 2:04 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [Bulk] RE: Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 Thanks, Richard. I googled this after you wrote and found this.

 This iTunes installer is only for Windows 64 bit systems that are 
 unable to support iTunes video playback requirements on older and low 
 end video cards. Only use this installer if you were directed to this 
 page by the below alert message from iTunes 12.1 or later.  Using this 
 installer on an incorrect system may prevent your system from getting 
 the correct iTunes installer in the future.

 If you were directed to this page by an alert from iTunes, follow 
 these
 steps:

 1.Download the iTunes installer to your Windows desktop

 2.Locate the iTunes64Setup.exe and double click to run the installer

 3.Install as you normally would. Your iTunes library will not be affected.

 Source.

 https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1784?locale=en_US

 Neal

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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
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 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 I Didn’t.

 It says that it is for 64 bit systems with old video cards.

 I have a 64 bit system, but I don’t think it is an older video card, 
 but I went ahead and updated anyway.

 No difference to me so far.

 Richard

 The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, 
 but what they become by it.

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 *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 12, 2015 10:32 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 The subject says it all. If you have updated to the new iTunes 12.1.2, 
 did you experience any problems with the new version?

 Neal

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RE: [Bulk] RE: Any problems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

[Don Cher]

So, if the update notification comes up automatically as it usually does, does 
that mean you do need the update? I do not see the 'alert message' that is 
supposed to be quoted somewhere in this message and an thus confused.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 

Thanks, Richard. I googled this after you wrote and found this.

 

This iTunes installer is only for Windows 64 bit systems that are unable to 
support iTunes video playback requirements on older and low end video cards. 
Only use this installer if you were directed to this page by the below alert 
message from iTunes 12.1 or later.  Using this installer on an incorrect system 
may prevent your system from getting the correct iTunes installer in the future.

If you were directed to this page by an alert from iTunes, follow these steps:

1.Download the iTunes installer to your Windows desktop

2.Locate the iTunes64Setup.exe and double click to run the installer

3.Install as you normally would. Your iTunes library will not be affected. 

 

Source.

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1784?locale=en_US 

Neal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 

I Didn’t.

It says that it is for 64 bit systems with old video cards.

I have a 64 bit system, but I don’t think it is an older video card, but I went 
ahead and updated anyway.

No difference to me so far.

 

Richard

 

 

The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it.

- John Ruskin

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyproblems when updating to iTunes 12.1.2?

 

The subject says it all. If you have updated to the new iTunes 12.1.2, did you 
experience any problems with the new version?

 

Neal

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RE: [Bulk] RE: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS

[Don Cher]

Can you say walking directions to xxx or does Apple Maps assume driving 
directions?

Cher


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Subject: [Bulk] RE: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS

Hello Carol,

I was going to sit this one out but after reading all the replies I decided to 
chime in.  

Many of my friends and I have iPhones.  

When we go out, almost on a daily basis, we often use both Google Maps on one 
device and Apple Maps on the other.

I can tel you that I would choose Apple Maps over Google Maps every time with 
regard to ease of use, accuracy, and VoiceOver accessibility.  I concede that, 
in my experience anyway, many VoiceOver users do not know how to harness the 
full power of Apple Maps and that's a shame as I believe it is the best kept 
secret weapon in the iOS arsenal.  

In 1 for 1 comparison, both apps will get the job done but Apple Maps, once 
understood, far surpasses Google Maps in it's design and elegance.  

In terms of actual power-route functionality, however, I would say that A T  T 
Navigator, a paid subscription service wins hands down but it is not as VO 
friendly as many would like it to be; however it is still very usable to an 
experienced Navigator veteran.  As far as the two free solutions discussed in 
this reply, I would say that they are about the same in that regard.  

So, in short, if you want a free solutions that will offer the most 
feature-pack VoiceOver access, then I definitely vote for Apple Maps.  

Again, this is just my opinion.

Mark

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Subject: APPLE MAPS OR GOOGLE MAPS

Hi all,
 
If anyone has tried both of these, can you tell me whether Apple Maps works as 
well as Google Maps and give me some kind of comparison of them both, please?
 
Carol P
 
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RE: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

[Don Cher]

That has been happening to me during the last few updates. Disconnecting and 
re-connecting phone to PC has resolved- but once rebooting PC resolved and 
update suddenly showed up as installed, with no other action.

 

Cher

 

 

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Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

 

Hi, I had one little hiccup when updating. When my phone rebooted I was told 
that iTunes could not connect to this phone. I disconnected and re-connected 
the phone a few times, opened and closed iTunes with no success. I rebooted my 
computer and all worked well. This is evidently an anomaly, in that I have not 
heard of this happening to others. And, it now works. So, just a minor thing.

 

 

 

 

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brian albriton
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

 

I have found concerning braille screen input, the same issues that I previously 
found in Safari. Braille sgreen input works on the address field in Safari, but 
not in other form fields One example would be on the national Library service 
website in the search the catalog page The website is WWW dot LOC.GOV/MLS


On Mar 9, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

I cannot get the Braille screen input to function with Outlook. Has anyone else 
had this problem? I just downloaded the new update.


Jenn and Kumi

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:28 PM -0700, John Diakogeorgiou 
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Mine took a  bit of time but I did it around 3 eastern just a little
while after it became available to me. I think it's pretty big only
because it took longer than usual to install. I haven't played enough
with it to give any concrete feedback. However, so far it is working
well for me.
 
On 3/9/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
 How long did it take to download and install? Is it a big upgrade? Thanks,
 Keith
 
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 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOs 8.2
 
 For what its worth, VoiceOver seems to be a bit more snappy on my iPhone 6
 running v8.2. This is particularly true when going to a home screen from
 within an app. There used to be a delay from between a few to up to 10 or 15
 seconds before I got speech in 8.1.3 and lower. When doing the update
 earlier, I hit the learn more button and read the full list of changes.
 Though this is not VO related, I was very pleased to see that some calendar
 bugs have been fixed, such as the GMT bug which has been present since iOS
 8.0 initial release. I'm sure you can do a search on the web to read more
 about that annoying bug. I recall seeing a few other bug fixes and
 enhancements that peeked my interest, but don't remember at the moment what
 they were. Anyway, worth the update if only for the VO stability
 improvements. AppleVis also has a post which hints at more accessibility
 fixes perhaps to come in version 8.3. But of course we won't know more about
 that until it comes out, whenever that is.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 3/9/15, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
 Yeah, VoiceOver is more reliable, nothing specific about that, I'm
 sure Applevis will address these in the next few days.
 On 9 Mar 2015, at 19:05, Pete Nalda  wrote:
 
 I'd imagine iOS 8.2 is rolled out to accommodate the apple watch.
 Don't know if there'll by any accessibility updates on this iOS or not.
 
 On Mar 9, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Trea Abma  wrote:
 
 Installing iOs 8.2 right now.
 
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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

[Don Cher]

Hey Anna-

 

There is no header that says 'Track # which is what we looked for first, but 
then decided to try and click left of the single checkmark- which added a 
second checkmark and put everything back in reverse order- 21 at the top going 
down the list to 1. Then I asked my husband to click on that new left checkmark 
and voila- the tracks suddenly appear in order from 1 to 21- amazing!!! 
Apparently the order can only be fixed with the mouse if it gets out of whack. 
I worked with apple accessibility on this today, and we could not resolve- so 
will be thrilled to tell the tech about the lack of accessibility with the 
keyboard and how to fix it with a sighted helper and mouse when she calls back 
tomorrow. This has been broken for months-- thank you, thank you :)

 

Cher

 

 

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

 

Hi Cher,

 

I’m terribly sorry about the bad advice. I thought about it some more and 
realized that the column you need to click is the track number. Have your 
husband click that, and I think everything will be sorted properly.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

Hi Anna- That header with name, etc. is not accessible to JAWS- had looked 
previously and checked again today. I had my husband click on 'Name' with the 
mouse and instead of reversing the order, it scrambled the tracks. I had him 
hit it again to undo, but it just scrambled more. I had read your advice on the 
internet but have never found anything on a keyboard accessible way to change 
track order. Unfortunately, now it's a real mess and am afraid that I won't 
even be able to burn CDs until this is fixed. 

 

Cher

 

 

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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

 

Hi,

 

Find the list of tracks, and locate the track titles. Just above that should be 
a Name button you can click to reverse the order. I don't know whether you'll 
have access to that button, but see if you can find it with your screen 
reader's mouse pointer, or find the first track title with the mouse cursor and 
up arrow once.

 

Good luck,

Anna

 

 

 

On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

Does anyone know where to fix this? Any CD starts playing with the last song 
and quits - doesn't even play the rest of the CD. Have looked at the View 
options, but not found the right one. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

[Don Cher]

Don't have WIFI here, don't think there is a way to update without iTunes on 
the PC- unless I've been missing something?

 

Cher

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan J Paganelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

 

The way I’ve always done my updating of the software on my iPhone or iPad 
hasbeen through my iPhone or my iPad.  It’s easier and totally accessible.

 

Settings, General, Software Update.  If your battery power is to low, you’ll be 
given a notification that you should charge your iPhone or iPad or connect to 
AC power or words to that effect.  There is no need to go through iTunes.

 


Regards,
Alan
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get
a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
available upon request. Thanks for listening!

 

From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:10 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

 

That has been happening to me during the last few updates. Disconnecting and 
re-connecting phone to PC has resolved- but once rebooting PC resolved and 
update suddenly showed up as installed, with no other action.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOs 8.2

 

Hi, I had one little hiccup when updating. When my phone rebooted I was told 
that iTunes could not connect to this phone. I disconnected and re-connected 
the phone a few times, opened and closed iTunes with no success. I rebooted my 
computer and all worked well. This is evidently an anomaly, in that I have not 
heard of this happening to others. And, it now works. So, just a minor thing.

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
brian albriton
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 8.2

 

I have found concerning braille screen input, the same issues that I previously 
found in Safari. Braille sgreen input works on the address field in Safari, but 
not in other form fields One example would be on the national Library service 
website in the search the catalog page The website is WWW dot LOC.GOV/MLS


On Mar 9, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

I cannot get the Braille screen input to function with Outlook. Has anyone else 
had this problem? I just downloaded the new update.


Jenn and Kumi

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:28 PM -0700, John Diakogeorgiou 
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Mine took a  bit of time but I did it around 3 eastern just a little
while after it became available to me. I think it's pretty big only
because it took longer than usual to install. I haven't played enough
with it to give any concrete feedback. However, so far it is working
well for me.
 
On 3/9/15, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.  wrote:
 How long did it take to download and install? Is it a big upgrade? Thanks,
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOs 8.2
 
 For what its worth, VoiceOver seems to be a bit more snappy on my iPhone 6
 running v8.2. This is particularly true when going to a home screen from
 within an app. There used to be a delay from between a few to up to 10 or 15
 seconds before I got speech in 8.1.3 and lower. When doing the update
 earlier, I hit the learn more button and read the full list of changes.
 Though this is not VO related, I was very pleased to see that some calendar
 bugs have been fixed, such as the GMT bug which has been present since iOS
 8.0 initial release. I'm sure you can do a search on the web to read more
 about that annoying bug. I recall seeing a few other bug fixes and
 enhancements that peeked my interest, but don't remember at the moment what
 they were. Anyway, worth the update if only for the VO stability
 improvements. AppleVis also has a post which hints at more accessibility
 fixes perhaps to come in version 8.3. But of course we won't know more about
 that until it comes out, whenever that is.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 3/9/15, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
 Yeah, VoiceOver is more reliable, nothing specific about that, I'm
 sure Applevis will address these in the next few days.
 On 9 Mar 2015, at 19:05, Pete Nalda  wrote:
 
 I'd imagine iOS 8.2 is rolled out to accommodate the apple watch.
 Don't know if there'll by any 

RE: [Bulk] Re: iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

[Don Cher]

Hi Anna- That header with name, etc. is not accessible to JAWS- had looked 
previously and checked again today. I had my husband click on 'Name' with the 
mouse and instead of reversing the order, it scrambled the tracks. I had him 
hit it again to undo, but it just scrambled more. I had read your advice on the 
internet but have never found anything on a keyboard accessible way to change 
track order. Unfortunately, now it's a real mess and am afraid that I won't 
even be able to burn CDs until this is fixed. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

 

Hi,

 

Find the list of tracks, and locate the track titles. Just above that should be 
a Name button you can click to reverse the order. I don't know whether you'll 
have access to that button, but see if you can find it with your screen 
reader's mouse pointer, or find the first track title with the mouse cursor and 
up arrow once.

 

Good luck,

Anna

 

 

 

On Mar 9, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

Does anyone know where to fix this? Any CD starts playing with the last song 
and quits - doesn't even play the rest of the CD. Have looked at the View 
options, but not found the right one. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

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iTunes shows CDs with songs in reverse order

[Don Cher]

Does anyone know where to fix this? Any CD starts playing with the last song
and quits - doesn't even play the rest of the CD. Have looked at the View
options, but not found the right one. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

[Don Cher]

Is the patch you mentioned available from Apple? If so, what do you look for?

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

 

No, I didn't think that would work when I saw the message the first time.  
Since it is a 64-bit rendering issue, you need that 64-bit patch that they 
released.

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner mailto:rich...@turner42.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:59 PM

Subject: RE: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

 

That didn't work for me running Windows 8.1.1 with itunes 12.1.
Shift + Enter still got me the new window which is useless.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

For those of us who have been frustrated by no longer being able to edit the
items under 'get info', here is a fix from the Jaws-users list. 
Cher

-Original Message-

In the initial release of iTunes 12, Apple has designed a whole new Get Info
Window which is for their Yosemite operating system for macs.  It is
supposed to have a fancy new look.  Unfortunately, this new re-designed
window is very inconvenient to use and was unusable until John wrote some
code as a kind of work-around.

Luckily, Apple has decided not to get rid of the old classic Get Info Window
altogether, and we can still use it with this hidden little secret. To load
the old window instead of the new one, do the following:  If you are on a
track whose info you wish to edit, hit the Applications Key, arrow down to
Get Info.  If you now press Enter as you did before, you will load the new
window, but if you hold down the Shift Key while you press Enter, you will
load the classic window we all know and love.  Problem solved!!



Best,

Al

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RE: [Bulk] RE: Fw: iTunes 12.1 fix

[Don Cher]

I thought if iTunes 12.1 had not been installed, that there was no problem. So 
why install a fix? Confused!

Cher


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Fw: iTunes 12.1 fix

Hi

If iTunes 12.1 had never been installed, is it still necessary to uninstall the 
earlier version of iTunes before installing the fix?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 08:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fw: iTunes 12.1 fix

I am using the 64bit version of Windows. I followed the procedures in this post 
and it works. I did not have ITunes 12.1 installed before this so can't compare 
though.

On 2/9/15, Robert Doc Wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Here is a fix for the 64Bit iTunes that works.  You will have to 
 uninstall iTunes first. There is an order in which iTunes should be 
 properly uninstalled.  I will place that information below and place 
 the link for the fix afterwards.


 Uninstalling  iTunes

 Steps

 1.Remove iTunes and related components from the Control Panel.

 Use the Control Panel to uninstall iTunes and related software 
 components in the following order. Then restart your computer.
 1.iTunes
 2.Apple Software Update
 3.Apple Mobile Device Support
 4.Bonjour
 5.Apple Application Support (iTunes 9 or later)

 Don't uninstall these components in a different order, or only 
 uninstall some of them. Doing so might have unintended affects.

 iTunes 64 bit fix
 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1784

 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
 learning start?

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RE: [Bulk] RE: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

[Don Cher]

Maybe so, sorry if so. The messages did not mention BlindTunes- but was 
wondering who they were talking about. I have Win 7 and 64 bit, so will try it 
on mine in a bit.

Cher



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

OK, so I just re-read this message and I have a feeling that this shift+enter 
on Get Info may only bring up the old window when you run the BlindTunes 
scripts. John is mentioned and something about him writing some code so I 
assume this refers to John Martin, developer of the BlindTunes scripts.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A Get info work around in ITunes 12

For those of us who have been frustrated by no longer being able to edit the 
items under 'get info', here is a fix from the Jaws-users list. 
Cher

-Original Message-

In the initial release of iTunes 12, Apple has designed a whole new Get Info 
Window which is for their Yosemite operating system for macs.  It is supposed 
to have a fancy new look.  Unfortunately, this new re-designed window is very 
inconvenient to use and was unusable until John wrote some code as a kind of 
work-around.

Luckily, Apple has decided not to get rid of the old classic Get Info Window 
altogether, and we can still use it with this hidden little secret. To load the 
old window instead of the new one, do the following:  If you are on a track 
whose info you wish to edit, hit the Applications Key, arrow down to Get Info.  
If you now press Enter as you did before, you will load the new window, but if 
you hold down the Shift Key while you press Enter, you will load the classic 
window we all know and love.  Problem solved!!



Best,

Al

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A Get info work around in ITunes 12

[Don Cher]

For those of us who have been frustrated by no longer being able to edit the
items under 'get info', here is a fix from the Jaws-users list. 
Cher

-Original Message-

In the initial release of iTunes 12, Apple has designed a whole new Get Info
Window which is for their Yosemite operating system for macs.  It is
supposed to have a fancy new look.  Unfortunately, this new re-designed
window is very inconvenient to use and was unusable until John wrote some
code as a kind of work-around.

Luckily, Apple has decided not to get rid of the old classic Get Info Window
altogether, and we can still use it with this hidden little secret. To load
the old window instead of the new one, do the following:  If you are on a
track whose info you wish to edit, hit the Applications Key, arrow down to
Get Info.  If you now press Enter as you did before, you will load the new
window, but if you hold down the Shift Key while you press Enter, you will
load the classic window we all know and love.  Problem solved!!



Best,

Al

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RE: [Bulk] copying songs to a playlist in the latest version of iTunes

[Don Cher]

While the song is selected, hit applications key, A, and expand submenu to 
reveal playlists, then use first letter navigation to get to the one you want :)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise avant
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] copying songs to a playlist in the latest version of iTunes

Hello all,
I am wondering how to copy songs to a playlist in itunes? I have not done this 
for a bit. But I use to interact with the song, then do command shift-m which 
brought up the menu. Now when I do that, I see some choices, but not moving or 
copying songs to a playlist. any help would be appreciated.

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RE: [Bulk] RE: iTunes 12.1.0.71 - initial findings

[Don Cher]

Won't we all be in trouble though when there is an IOS update which requires an 
iTunes update?

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: iTunes 12.1.0.71 - initial findings

 

Too late now I know, but I ran a restore and, when Itunes was unhappy, I went 
to itunes in add/remove programs and application keyed on it and ran a repair 
and all was well.

 

 

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Steve
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes 12.1.0.71 - initial findings

 

Sieghard,

 

Unfortunately, I tried a restore and iTunes wasn't happy.

 

I then had to uninstall iTunes, along with the other associated Apple programs 
like Apple Software, Bonjour, and a couple others.  Apple has a prescribed 
order to uninstall that stuff.

After that, I could re-install iTunes earlier version.

 

Yes, this is an unfortunate instance; and I usually don't update stuff right 
away.  Regretfully, live and learn.

 

Steve

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From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 9:25 PM

Subject: iTunes 12.1.0.71 - initial findings

 

Hello,

 

OK, I just played around a bit with this latest iTunes release. I am using 
Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit and the latest Jaws 16 update.

As I said before, I can still use Control+F to go to the search library field, 
tabbing from there I get the same announcement of the radio buttons like Music, 
Movies etc. and this section still ends with “More”. 

 

After “More” I get the usual 3 radio buttons, “My Music”, “Playlists” and 
“iTunes Store”. Then I get to a button which still is correctly identified as 
“Songs” and that is where it needs to be in order for the column browser to 
work. I can activate the button and tab into the list of items, however, all of 
them (Songs, Albums, Artists, Composers and Genres) are only read by Jaws as 
“button”.

If I put it on Songs, the first button in that list, I can tab and I get 4 
items which are only announced as “Button” as well. I realized that the first 3 
are my columns (Genre, Artist and Album) and the fourth is the song list view. 
I can arrow down in these as before and items are filtered, but of course Jaws 
reads only “Button” anywhere you are and it’s very bag.

 

All I can suggest at this point is to once again flood accessibil...@apple.com 
with emails letting them know how useless iTunes currently is. It may also be 
of use to inform the maker of whichever screenreader you use as this may be a 
fix required on their side. I do, however, find it unfortunate that something 
like this isn’t tested by Apple so it could be caught before a public release 
and either it could be fixed or an appropriate warning could be displayed 
advising screenreader users that there are problems in the new update and to 
stick with the previous one for the time being.

 

I haven’t decided yet whether I want to downgrade, a Windows Restore would of 
course be the simplest solution, but I also installed a new printer since the 
update and while reinstalling it wouldn’t be such a big deal, I might just wait 
to see if Apple will release an update to fix this or if Freedom Scientific can 
come up with a solution so Jaws once again reads all it should read. I 
fortunately don’t really use iTunes on a daily bases so waiting for another 
update might be OK for me.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Selecting which playlists to sync with phone

[Don Cher]

Did this once, but can't repeat today. I want to delete some playlists on
the phone and sync others. Phone with IOS8.1.3 is connected to PC. I have
Music radio button checked, iPhone button checked, playlists radio button
checked, songs button, then the treeview- which sometimes has music listed
once and sometimes twice. If I select either of the music listings in the
treeview, music plays but the checkboxes for the playlists do not appear.
What and where am I going wrong? 

 

Cher in Frustration City

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RE: [Bulk] Re: 4S Users- did IOS8 degrade your phone?

[Don Cher]

Christopher- My husband doesn't use Safari or email, so that's not a concern, 
but I did read some techie talk that the 4s might struggle with IOS8 regardless 
of what Apple says. What specific behavior is called a  VoiceOver restart? 
Thanks for your reply.

Cher


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I'm running IOS 8 on my 4S. I have the same bugs that still afflict all IOS 8 
VoiceOver users regardless of the handset they're using. In addition, I suspect 
I still get VoiceOver restarts a bit more frequently than might be seen on 
other handsets. It isn't frequent though. 
Performance is good in general, but I do get some slowness on some complex web 
pages and email messages. LinkedIn is a good example. If you are looking for a 
particular feature in IOS 8 then I'd go for it. I'd probably go for it now in 
any case since I'm sure there are apps that aren't getting updated as long as 
you're running IOS 7.


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RE: [Bulk] Re: 4S Users- did IOS8 degrade your phone?

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He is a minimal user- few apps, and actually uses mostly the phone as a phone 
and as a camera. I don't want to degrade anything- and there has been a lot of 
discussion here and elsewhere whether 4s users should upgrade. He does have 
Google Maps which has frequent updates, but not sure if any require ios8 or not.

Cher


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I would think that only having 8 gig available would be a major problem, but 
that's because I have a lot of apps.  Whether or not to upgrade would depend on 
what you plan to use the phone for.

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Subject: Re: 4S Users- did IOS8 degrade your phone?


I'm running IOS 8 on my 4S. I have the same bugs that still afflict all IOS 8 
VoiceOver users regardless of the handset they're using. In addition, I suspect 
I still get VoiceOver restarts a bit more frequently than might be seen on 
other handsets. It isn't frequent though.
Performance is good in general, but I do get some slowness on some complex web 
pages and email messages. LinkedIn is a good example. If you are looking for a 
particular feature in IOS 8 then I'd go for it. I'd probably go for it now in 
any case since I'm sure there are apps that aren't getting updated as long as 
you're running IOS 7.


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RE: [Bulk] RE: Getting stuck in album art on iPhone

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Yes, that's exactly what I mean- no controls- a blank screen from a VO 
perspective! 

 

Cher

 

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When you say you get stuck in album art, do you mean your play controls 
disappear? If so, just touch the screen in the middle (where the album art is) 
and double tap, that should unhide your playback controls.

 

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Don  Cher
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Subject: Getting stuck in album art on iPhone

 

I keep accidentally getting into this, and can't get out without closing out 
music in the app switcher and starting over. Not sure how I get into the art, 
but CANNOT get out. HELP!

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Getting stuck in album art on iPhone

[Don Cher]

There are no buttons when this occurs- don't know what triggers it- that's why 
I have tried several times to remove the album art from the phone, but that is 
not working either.

 

Cher

 

 

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Have you tried to sue the back button or use the two finger scrub gesture?

On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

I keep accidentally getting into this, and can't get out without closing out 
music in the app switcher and starting over. Not sure how I get into the art, 
but CANNOT get out. HELP!

 

Cher

 

 

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Siri dictation guide

[Don Cher]

From this week's Tidbits is a link- Siri dictation guide, listing nearly 60
commands you can use:
http://www.siriuserguide.com/siri-dictation-guide/
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001VJaPEBEVBS5BdVQaMmQS8cosdyHykQTMCArYEVb9H9oK
tiJB5QoiGA-0F5pTO8QpXs4i4XOhog8tW1Nk-mAvD2Asatva4cMvi_Zbhax18PrWQhondlglnvqP
Fc1U0jbTfthaWYeocb-ehynLGTH_a9pbh9wDSx_7UG7SWtd-C9qWdEl9UQV7w8mPLWwVoCqqHEcr
Iy5PR_Ui_0fHi63cMA==c=SNp3yhxxTOg6kAEtjDhkLCTUj9bOQcJquSwQf6boX6vBi2hvqmfVD
w==ch=baLmVJ8OijQIsyhfcg1Z9XnRbi4psufgf2RN735U4L_ztmJVtT8yeg== 

 

Cher

 

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Getting stuck in album art on iPhone

[Don Cher]

I keep accidentally getting into this, and can't get out without closing out
music in the app switcher and starting over. Not sure how I get into the
art, but CANNOT get out. HELP!

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] navigating from my iTunes library to the store and back in iTunes

[Don Cher]

I was having the same issue with iTunes12. When you want to leave the store, 
tab to the radio buttons where you choose music, apps, movies, etc. and check 
the one you want, then tab on to the second set of radio buttons after the 
More  button. Check what you want here (the store button will be currently 
selected). You should then see the additional options for whatever item you 
chose. There may be another way, but this is all I've figured out. If you can't 
find the radio buttons, press the menu option like Control-1 for music. I 
haven't figured out if that's necessary- sometimes it seems to help, but still 
stumbling around in this version.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:58 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] navigating from my itunes library to the store and back in 
itunes

 

Hello.  While in Itunes, I wish to go to the store to make a purchase.  I do so 
by pressing shift-control-h and this places me in the store.  I find and make 
my purchase and then can’t get back to my library in any other way but to close 
and then reopen itunes.  Can someone suggest what I’m doing wrong?  Thanks.]

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] navigating from my iTunes library to the store and back in iTunes

[Don Cher]

Dear Sieghard,

 

I'm glad you were able to clarify this point- I've still been stumbling around 
in version 12 and found that you said in your previous post, that pressing 
Control-1 did not immediately appear to do much of anything. Now that I know 
that something really does change, I'll use the shortcuts at the beginning and 
smile and be happy more of the time :)

 

Cher

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] navigating from my iTunes library to the store and 
back in iTunes

 

Hi Cher,

 

You say to tab to the radio buttons for music, apps, movies etc. and to select 
the one you want, then tab to the next set of radio buttons after the “More” 
button. This is exactly where the shortcuts come in handy since I just use 
Control+1 in the store to select the music category. I wait until the page 
loads, then I use F6 twice and Shift Tab 2 or 3 times and that takes me 
straight to the “My Music” radio button. If you select your category with the 
shortcut keys you don’t have to select it by tabbing a bunch of times first and 
checking a radio button.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] navigating from my iTunes library to the store and back in 
iTunes

 

I was having the same issue with iTunes12. When you want to leave the store, 
tab to the radio buttons where you choose music, apps, movies, etc. and check 
the one you want, then tab on to the second set of radio buttons after the 
More  button. Check what you want here (the store button will be currently 
selected). You should then see the additional options for whatever item you 
chose. There may be another way, but this is all I've figured out. If you can't 
find the radio buttons, press the menu option like Control-1 for music. I 
haven't figured out if that's necessary- sometimes it seems to help, but still 
stumbling around in this version.

 

Cher

 

 

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] navigating from my itunes library to the store and back in 
itunes

 

Hello.  While in Itunes, I wish to go to the store to make a purchase.  I do so 
by pressing shift-control-h and this places me in the store.  I find and make 
my purchase and then can’t get back to my library in any other way but to close 
and then reopen itunes.  Can someone suggest what I’m doing wrong?  Thanks.]

 

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Burned playlists showing in reverse order in iTunes

[Don Cher]

My burned playlists suddenly show up upside down in iTunes- but if I play
the disk in WMP the order is really OK. Can anyone assist to straighten out
the view in iTunes? Thanks.

Cher

 

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Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

[Don Cher]

While trying to straighten out the problem I mentioned with burned
playlists, I managed to get a sort album showing up in the playlist view.
I changed something under the Control-J view setting. Under 'Sort Order' and
the Sort Album dropdown, Sort Album is checked, but pressing Enter does not
uncheck it. No longer sure what the default was... Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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RE: Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

[Don Cher]

Have no idea- so many pulldown menus are way too confusing- but got rid of the 
annoying album sort order showing up in the playlist and changing the sort 
order out of whack. Thanks anyway for always being there to help!

 

Cher

 

 

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Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

 

While trying to straighten out the problem I mentioned with burned playlists, I 
managed to get a sort album showing up in the playlist view. I changed 
something under the Control-J view setting. Under 'Sort Order' and the Sort 
Album dropdown, Sort Album is checked, but pressing Enter does not uncheck it. 
No longer sure what the default was... Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

[Don Cher]

I did not see that option anywhere- does it keep up with any changes that way? 
If you find this on the PC in iTunes, can you point to where? Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

 

I have mine set to sort by trackin the combo box if that helps.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Playlists showing sort album- how to change this?

 

While trying to straighten out the problem I mentioned with burned playlists, I 
managed to get a sort album showing up in the playlist view. I changed 
something under the Control-J view setting. Under 'Sort Order' and the Sort 
Album dropdown, Sort Album is checked, but pressing Enter does not uncheck it. 
No longer sure what the default was... Thanks.

 

Cher

 

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Getting rid of album art on phone's music app

[Don Cher]

I keep getting lost in album art while looking through songs on the phone,
and once in, have never found a way out without closing music and starting
over. Web search said to uncheck album art in iTunes and I did that- problem
persists. Do I have to delete and re-create the playlists now that album art
is off or what?

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] is JamBox still a favorite, or is there better or more affordable

[Don Cher]

I listened to a JBL Charge II yesterday and was pretty impressed with the sound 
for piano, strings, and other orchestra. Best Buy carries them and you might 
find it worth a listen.

Cher


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Subject: [Bulk] is JamBox still a favorite, or is there better or more 
affordable

I had, and lost, a small Jambox, and have a Bose Mini Soundlink mostly for my 
wife.  I want to be able to play spoken word and music out loud for myself, and 
also sometimes play music to a group of perhaps as many as twenty people.  I am 
no audiophile, but the Bose for this latter purpose does not project the highs 
as much as I would like for people to hear the lyrics.  I did like the Jambox.  

So what would you recommend I buy from among the dizzying array of choices? 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Bluetooth speaker with iPhone 6 using VO earphone?

[Don Cher]

But can I use the earphone so that I can selectively choose which of the 
phone's audio is broadcast? Thanks.

Cher


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Subject: [Bulk] Re: Bluetooth speaker with iPhone 6 using VO  earphone?

The Jawbone Jambox range make a marketing feature of this very thing.  heavy 
duty conference calls.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Bluetooth speaker with iPhone 6 using VO  earphone?


If you are using the provided earphones (so that others nearby are not 
distracted by VO on the phone) will a portable Bluetooth speaker be able to 
pick up the signal from your phone and amplify for the room? Hope this is not a 
really dumb question- but Best Buy could not answer.



Cher

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Bluetooth speaker with iPhone 6 using VO earphone?

[Don Cher]

If you are using the provided earphones (so that others nearby are not
distracted by VO on the phone) will a portable Bluetooth speaker be able to
pick up the signal from your phone and amplify for the room? Hope this is
not a really dumb question- but Best Buy could not answer. 

 

Cher

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RE: [Bulk] refresher on iCloud backups

[Don Cher]

Backing up contacts in iCloud changes how they are shown in Outlook. I think 
that merging these has caused the outlook address book not to update when I 
update the iCloud contacts... something I'm still trying to resolve.

 

Cher

 

 

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Paul Ferrara
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] refresher on icloud backups

 

All, I am helping a friend with his iPhone; he has never backed up to icloud. 
It showed iCloud backup off. So when I select on, with contacts it says 
contacts will be merged with iCloud; that is another way of just saying they 
will be backed up, isn’t it?

 

Also he never upgraded past IOS 6 I think; how did you used to close apps in 
the old app switcher?

 

Thanks.

 

Paul

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

[Don Cher]

No, I just renamed a few songs (not albums) in iTunes 12 the other day using 
the F2 key. There was no rename on the context menu- so looked around quite a 
bit- with no luck. I'll have to check it again to see exactly where I was- the 
navigation and all the treeviews are quite a pin IMHO.

 

Cher

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I did try that as well and it also does nothing for me.

Are you saying this worked in iTunes 12 or are you talking about renaming an 
album in Windows?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I tried that first, but it didn’t work for me.

Perhaps, the next time I’ll try it again after a couple other steps.

Overall, I like iTunes 12, but there are a few fetures I wish acted the same as 
in 11.

 

Richard

 

 

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Don  Cher
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

If you have the album selected, try the F2 key- worked for changing song titles 
for me.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:33 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

OK.  I admit I am stumped.

I have an album that imported from a CD with the wrong title.

I have not figured out how to edit that.

I get into the album and bring up the context menu and select get info.  I say 
yes to editing multiple items.

I’ve tried clicking on details, but the title of the album is a static box that 
doesn’t allow editing.

Anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,


Richard

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

[Don Cher]

Sieghard- OK just checked, can rename songs and playlists with F2 but not 
albums- using ios8.1.  Have not yet done the latest 8.1.1 update.  Had not had 
any reason to rename albums and did not realize that it was a different animal- 
sorry for the mislead.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I did try that as well and it also does nothing for me.

Are you saying this worked in iTunes 12 or are you talking about renaming an 
album in Windows?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I tried that first, but it didn’t work for me.

Perhaps, the next time I’ll try it again after a couple other steps.

Overall, I like iTunes 12, but there are a few fetures I wish acted the same as 
in 11.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

If you have the album selected, try the F2 key- worked for changing song titles 
for me.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:33 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

OK.  I admit I am stumped.

I have an album that imported from a CD with the wrong title.

I have not figured out how to edit that.

I get into the album and bring up the context menu and select get info.  I say 
yes to editing multiple items.

I’ve tried clicking on details, but the title of the album is a static box that 
doesn’t allow editing.

Anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,


Richard

 

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RE: [Bulk] Renaming songs, was: Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

[Don Cher]

Yes, I found that even just changing it in a playlist changed it elsewhere as 
well- I had thought I'd have to go to the song list and anywhere else it had 
been copied to, but apparently it went directly to the original source and 
changed it everywhere it had been copied. 

Cher 

 

 

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Renaming songs, was: Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on 
Windows 8.1.1

 

Hi Don,

 

Well, you made a good discovery there. I just went into my song list and tried 
this and it works fine. I changed a song title a bit and then went into Get 
Info and after activating the Details button I went to the song title and 
checked it to make sure the actual meta data for song title had changed and it 
did. So yes, if you want to rename a song then you can do it this way, easy and 
quick.

 

I did try this for artist and album and it doesn’t seem to work for that.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 
8.1.1

 

No, I just renamed a few songs (not albums) in iTunes 12 the other day using 
the F2 key. There was no rename on the context menu- so looked around quite a 
bit- with no luck. I'll have to check it again to see exactly where I was- the 
navigation and all the treeviews are quite a pin IMHO.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I did try that as well and it also does nothing for me.

Are you saying this worked in iTunes 12 or are you talking about renaming an 
album in Windows?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

I tried that first, but it didn’t work for me.

Perhaps, the next time I’ll try it again after a couple other steps.

Overall, I like iTunes 12, but there are a few fetures I wish acted the same as 
in 11.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don  Cher
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

If you have the album selected, try the F2 key- worked for changing song titles 
for me.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:33 PM
To: ViPone list
Subject: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

OK.  I admit I am stumped.

I have an album that imported from a CD with the wrong title.

I have not figured out how to edit that.

I get into the album and bring up the context menu and select get info.  I say 
yes to editing multiple items.

I’ve tried clicking on details, but the title of the album is a static box that 
doesn’t allow editing.

Anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,


Richard

 

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RE: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

[Don Cher]

If you have the album selected, try the F2 key- worked for changing song titles 
for me.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:33 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] Editing album titles in iTunes 12 on Windows 8.1.1

 

OK.  I admit I am stumped.

I have an album that imported from a CD with the wrong title.

I have not figured out how to edit that.

I get into the album and bring up the context menu and select get info.  I say 
yes to editing multiple items.

I’ve tried clicking on details, but the title of the album is a static box that 
doesn’t allow editing.

Anyone know how to do this?

 

Thanks,


Richard

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: What about eye note?

[Don Cher]

What all permissions need to be set for the app to work? I get nothing at all.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: What about eye note?

 

After deleting it, downloading it again, making sure the permissions were set 
correctly, trying the app and getting nothing, then closing it out of the app 
switcher, running it again, it now works.

Why it took those redundant steps is beyond me, but it is working now.

If you only are dealing with US currency, EyeNote works as well as money reader.

Plus, it tells you if it is the front or back of the bill.

Richard

 

 

The only limits are those of vision.

 



 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Dean Martineau dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:

TyeNote works on my 5S running 8.1.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What about eye note?

 

EyeNote is not working on my 5S, but it is working on my iPhone 5 for work.

Go figure.

Richard

 

 

The only limits are those of vision.

 



 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Nov 13, 2014, at 7:41 AM, Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all. Has any one tried Eye Note? Does it work the same as looktel money 
reader... meaning you just open it and read the money? If so, that's not 
working for me either. I did give permission for it to use my camera. I just 
downloaded it today because looktel doesn't work. I've emailed looktel btw as 
well. ′smile′ 

Jenifer Barr
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RE: [Bulk] ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

[Don Cher]

I used to add single songs also, but have found it more difficult/impossible in 
versions 11 and 12. Creating and  Syncing a playlist just for your phone is 
still quite easy however- have you attempted that?

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: To Jonathan--iTunes 12

[Don Cher]

I find the treeviews after you select a radio button both confusing and 
somewhat difficult to figure out what goes where because of all the tabbing you 
have to do to get from the treeview you select to the items that relate to that 
selected treeview. I was also having difficulty doing anything with the music 
on my phone; before V12, I could just paste a song into music and it was done. 
Now I'm having problems just finding the music on my phone, and I could only 
see one of my playlists.

 

Cher

 

 

 

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Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: To Jonathan--itunes 12

 

Hi Larry, thanks a lot for the kind words, really appreciate that.

I'm going to make brief reference to iTunes 12 in the next FSCast and outline 
some of the shortcut keys that have already been well covered on this list.

If there's demand for even more than this, we may come back to it and do a 
demo. But not too much has changed really if you've been working with iTunes 
without the sidebar.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/11/2014, at 3:32 am, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

 

Hi.  I was wondering if Jonathan would consider doing a podcast on itunes 12?  
His earlier itunes podcasts were so good that I could sure use an update.  
Thanks.




 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

[Don Cher]

No, mine is a 5c using 8.1.

 

Cher

 

 

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Tom Rash
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

 

I've never had that issue.  Is this only on the 6 and 6 plus.  I'm on a 5 S 
with 8.1.

 

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Subject: Re: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

It may be there to teach us patience... no other reason... it is slowly 
working with me... other than that I recently read that adding ph#'s to your 
favorites in your contact list will stop this function... so far it is 
working w/ me... good luck... 

 


On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:29:50 PM UTC-7, Sieghard wrote: 

No way to change that, SIRI doesn’t ask me every time, but it does quite often 
and I also find it a bit bothersome especially since it does get cut off 
sometimes and it won’t finish and then ask to confirm in which case I have to 
pull out my iPhone and double tap on the Call button which is on the screen. 
Sometimes when it doesn’t ask automatically you can also push the home button 
again or use the remote on the headset and just say “Yes” and it will then 
place the call.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Subject: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

 

Just updated to 8.1 and Siri is demanding confirmation of every request to call 
someone. Anyone else? Any fixes?

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: Looking for High-quality Audio System to Use with iPhone 5

[Don Cher]

Sieghard,  I am just starting to look for something very portable to amplify 
music on the phone enough for a small group of people to sing along- sort of a 
portable band :)  Would your suggestion do what I need? Thanks.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Looking for High-quality Audio System to Use with iPhone 5

Hi Craig,

Look for my rather lengthy reply to your other message with subject Using the 
iPhone with the Bose SoundTouch App.
I know I am singing the Sonos praises, but what can I say, I'm a Sonos fan and 
love their stuff just as much as I love my iPhone.
If you want to talk more about it or have specific questions feel free to ask 
either on or off list depending on whether you feel it's of interest to 
everybody or not.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Looking for High-quality Audio System to Use with iPhone 5

Hello, everyone.

I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses his or her iPhone to
play music through a high-quality audio system.  Which audio
components do you use?  Do you need an app from the audio system's
company, or do you simply use your iPhone apps, such as TuneIn, to
generate the music?

Thank you for your help.

Craig

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RE: [Bulk] EyeNote doesn't work either

[Don Cher]

I could not get anything to work with that one either with IOS7.2, have not 
attempted with 8.1.

Cher

 

 

 

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Subject: [Bulk] EyeNote doesn't work either

 

HI All,

 

After the updated Money Reader wouldn’t work for me with IOS 8.1 on my 5S even 
though it did before I updated it, I even installed EyeNote and that doesn’t 
work either.

 

 

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U2 album solved: was Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

Thank you, thank you, Sieghard! That setting change solved 2 problems. U2 songs 
no longer show with a download button; and also it stopped an annoying stop 
download button beside songs recently purchased and already synced with the 
phone. These irrelevant buttons are really annoying when you have to flick 
twice to get through one song. 

 

Very gratefully, Cher

 

 

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

Don,

 

Go to Settings, iTunes and App Store and under the Show All heading turn off 
music. This should fix your problem.

 

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Don  Cher
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

Had you ever actually downloaded any of the album to your device? I did, and 
today read an article on the Apple site that says if you did, you have to 
remove it manually, but that isn't working either. I did go through the steps 
to remove the album from my account on the PC today, but that has made no 
change. I'm frustrated and lost.

 

Cher

 

 

 

 

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MamaPeach
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

It removes it from the phone, no need to even connect it to the computer.

 

From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

Does this remove it from the phone or just from iTunes on the PC? It's only on 
the phone, not the PC. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isaac Hebert
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

First go to https://itunes.com/soi-remove  

Next choose remove album. 

Next sign in with the apple ID and password that you use to sign in to the 
iTunes and app store with. 

 

Next you should see a confirmation message that the album has been removed. 

Here is a link to wheir I found this information. 

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6439

Isaac Hebert

hebertisaa...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes 
with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it this 
way on the phone, 

 

 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to 
delete and double tap. 

 

But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more 
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

I've been working on this and using the soi-remove link did not remove it from 
the phone. I also have tried to select the album or the songs on the phone and 
manually flick to the delete action and double tap- but they are still there. 
They all have a 'download button' listed with them, but they are in fact on the 
phone. Wondering if this is something to do with iCloud or a specific setting 
which needs to be changed. Anyone have ideas?

Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

it will remove it from the phone.

dave.
- Original Message - 
From: Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!


Does this remove it from the phone or just from iTunes on the PC? It's only 
on the phone, not the PC. Thanks.



Cher





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Isaac Hebert
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!



First go to https://itunes.com/soi-remove

Next choose remove album.

Next sign in with the apple ID and password that you use to sign in to the 
iTunes and app store with.



Next you should see a confirmation message that the album has been removed.

Here is a link to wheir I found this information.

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6439

Isaac Hebert

hebertisaa...@gmail.com







On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:



I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes 
with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it 
this way on the phone,



 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to 
delete and double tap.



But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more 
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1)



Cher







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RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

Had you ever actually downloaded any of the album to your device? I did, and 
today read an article on the Apple site that says if you did, you have to 
remove it manually, but that isn't working either. I did go through the steps 
to remove the album from my account on the PC today, but that has made no 
change. I'm frustrated and lost.

 

Cher

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

It removes it from the phone, no need to even connect it to the computer.

 

From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

Does this remove it from the phone or just from iTunes on the PC? It's only on 
the phone, not the PC. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isaac Hebert
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 

First go to https://itunes.com/soi-remove  

Next choose remove album. 

Next sign in with the apple ID and password that you use to sign in to the 
iTunes and app store with. 

 

Next you should see a confirmation message that the album has been removed. 

Here is a link to wheir I found this information. 

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6439

Isaac Hebert

hebertisaa...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes 
with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it this 
way on the phone, 

 

 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to 
delete and double tap. 

 

But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more 
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

I did download it to see if I wanted to keep any of it, but it still shows up 
with a download button by each track. I have tried every method suggested on 
this list to get it out of the list and not clutter up the navigation through 
the songs I want, but nothing has worked to date. 

Cher

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Subject: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

I don't think Apple actually put it on devices. It's listed in my Music app on 
my iPhone, but I've never downloaded it. I still see a download button next to 
each track. I guess people just don't want to see it in their list of artists, 
albums and the like.

On 11/07/2014 07:08 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:
 It sounds like a lot of trouble to remove it, I never use safari.  
 They should have never assumed and put it on the devices but I know, 
 we have been down that road before.
 Patti
 On 11/7/2014 3:20 AM, RobH! wrote:
 What!?!...   if they try bill me for it at this late stage, I'm likely to
 get inventive with my invective.

 RobH, does, sometimes.

 - Original Message -
 From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!


 No, I think it just stopped being free.

 From: Patti Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 I thought Apple was supposed to remove the album from the Idevices 
 after a while.
 Patti
 On 11/6/2014 4:14 PM, MamaPeach wrote:

On your phone using Safari, go to the below link, this should 
 allow you to remove the album, it worked for me
http://itunes.com/soi-remove
From: Don  Cher
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it 
 in iTunes with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone 
 saying to remove it this way on the phone,



 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to 
 get to delete and double tap.



But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. 
 What more specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1)



Cher





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RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

I removed it with the tool on the PC side, but it never showed up there. The 
instructions I found said the tool is supposed to remove it from your account. 
I was not able to get the address into Safari on the phone- as I never use that 
app- and found it triggering before I got the address in.
 
Cher

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MamaPeach
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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You can use any browser that you have installed on the device, it does not have 
to be safari. I just said Safari because that is the native browser on the 
device. It is not hard at all to remove it, takes very little time or effort.

-Original Message-
From: Patti Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

It sounds like a lot of trouble to remove it, I never use safari.  They should 
have never assumed and put it on the devices but I know, we have been down that 
road before.
Patti
On 11/7/2014 3:20 AM, RobH! wrote:
 What!?!...   if they try bill me for it at this late stage, I'm likely to
 get inventive with my invective.

 RobH, does, sometimes.

 - Original Message -
 From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:57 PM
 Subject: Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!


 No, I think it just stopped being free.

 From: Patti Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 5:43 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

 I thought Apple was supposed to remove the album from the Idevices 
 after a while.
 Patti
 On 11/6/2014 4:14 PM, MamaPeach wrote:

On your phone using Safari, go to the below link, this should allow 
 you to remove the album, it worked for me
http://itunes.com/soi-remove
From: Don  Cher
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it 
 in iTunes with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying 
 to remove it this way on the phone,



 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to 
 get to delete and double tap.



But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What 
 more
 specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1)



Cher





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RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album- any old way?

[Don Cher]

I finally figured that out today and reached the delete action item, then 
double tapped, but all the U2 songs are still there. I tried doing it with 
artists selected and deleting the whole album and also by selecting songs and 
deleting each one- no luck. Although there is a download button by each song, 
they are really downloaded because they play immediately.

 

Cher

 

 

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Bill Gallik
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You need to be certain the rotor is set to Actions.


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From: Don  mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net  Cher 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 3:19 PM

Subject: Get rid of U2 album- any old way?

 

The U2 album is on my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes with the phone 
connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it this way on the 
phone, 

 

just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to delete 
and double tap. 

 

But swiping up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more 
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

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Removing music from phone in iTunes

[Don Cher]

Can't seem to locate where to do that- want to remove the U2 album
downloaded from iCloud. 

 

Thanks for any help- Cher

 

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RE: Removing music from phone in iTunes

[Don Cher]

Follow-up: After selecting the iPhone radio button, music appears twice in the 
list for iTunes12. After selecting the first music in the treeview, I can't see 
any individual songs. After selecting the second music listing in the treeview, 
the individual songs are listed, but both cut and delete are grayed out in the 
menus and the delete key won't work either.

 

Cher

 

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Don  Cher
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Can't seem to locate where to do that- want to remove the U2 album downloaded 
from iCloud. 

 

Thanks for any help- Cher

 

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Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes
with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it
this way on the phone, 

 

 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to
delete and double tap. 

 

But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

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Get rid of U2 album- any old way?

[Don Cher]

The U2 album is on my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes with the phone
connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it this way on the
phone, 

 

just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to
delete and double tap. 

 

But swiping up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Get rid of U2 album - any old way!

[Don Cher]

Does this remove it from the phone or just from iTunes on the PC? It's only on 
the phone, not the PC. Thanks.

 

Cher

 

 

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Isaac Hebert
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 4:12 PM
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First go to https://itunes.com/soi-remove  

Next choose remove album. 

Next sign in with the apple ID and password that you use to sign in to the 
iTunes and app store with. 

 

Next you should see a confirmation message that the album has been removed. 

Here is a link to wheir I found this information. 

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT6439

Isaac Hebert

hebertisaa...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Don  Cher oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

I want to remove the U2 album from my phone but I cannot delete it in iTunes 
with the phone connected. The archives quoted someone saying to remove it this 
way on the phone, 

 

 Just go to music, artists and u2. Then flick up with 1 finger to get to 
delete and double tap. 

 

But flicking up with one finger only moves me between artists. What more 
specifically needs to happen? (Using ios8.1) 

 

Cher

 

 

 

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SIRI asking to confirm call commands

[Don Cher]

Just updated to 8.1 and Siri is demanding confirmation of every request to
call someone. Anyone else? Any fixes?

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] RE: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

[Don Cher]

Never saw this in ios7x- is this a bug or a feature?  ;) 

 

Cher

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 3:30 PM
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Subject: [Bulk] RE: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

 

No way to change that, SIRI doesn’t ask me every time, but it does quite often 
and I also find it a bit bothersome especially since it does get cut off 
sometimes and it won’t finish and then ask to confirm in which case I have to 
pull out my iPhone and double tap on the Call button which is on the screen. 
Sometimes when it doesn’t ask automatically you can also push the home button 
again or use the remote on the headset and just say “Yes” and it will then 
place the call.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Don  Cher
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SIRI asking to confirm call commands

 

Just updated to 8.1 and Siri is demanding confirmation of every request to call 
someone. Anyone else? Any fixes?

 

Cher

 

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RE: [Bulk] Another iTunes 12 discovery

[Don Cher]

I'm so glad you mentioned that you have to shift-tab to correlate the
correct button with the item name or I would have been very frustrated. What
is the difference between 'my music' and 'music'? Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Another iTunes 12 discovery

 

Hekllo again,

 

So, one other thing I discovered. You have these radio buttons for Music,
Movies, tV Shows, More etc. If you go to more where you find a lot of the
other stuff like Apps, Books, Tones and so on there is an Edit button. If
you tab to it and activate it and then tab again, you will find checkboxes
and the other items. If you check some of the checkboxes which are not
checked (each checkbox for an item is before the item is announced) then the
item will be listed as a radio button in that main view. For example, if you
want Apps to be a radio button in the main icon list where you have Music,
Movies and More, just activate the Edit button, then tab until you hear
Apps. Now Shift+Tab once to the checkbox before Apps and check it. Now Apps
will be in your main list.

Similarly you can of course uncheck items you don't want and hide them. If
you don't have TV Shows and it's in that series of radio buttons, then just
go to More, tab to the Edit button and activate it. Now tab until you hear
TV Shows, Shift+Tab once, uncheck the box and it will be gone.

 

Also, as Christopher pointed out, the column browser shortcut key apparently
still works, but I believe just as in iTunes 11 you have to select Songs
otherwise the column browser won't work.

 

OK, I now officially like iTunes 12.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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