from:"James"

Thanks for looking all of this stuff up.

I do not want a new desk because I like my current desk.  So, this walking pad 
with no handles isn’t my cup of tea.

Thanks again for the information.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

James, 

 

Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
an idea.  

I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini version 
of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads.  

 

A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is a 
piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises your 
monitor or laptop to eye level. 

Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know

Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be upright. 
but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a traditional standing 
desk this category also includes some desks that were designed to keep you 
active while you work including the treadmill desk and even elliptical desks 
besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you raise your computer and 
monitors to standing height. this type of desk is kind of an easy DIY. project. 
it's not so hard to make there are also dozens of commercially available 
options in the marketplace. today. but in just a minute I'm going to explain 
why this isn't the type I would necessarily recommend. for standing at work. 
next up our risers. risers. are in addition to your existing desk they give you 
the option to quickly go from sitting to standing or vice versa.

 

Evolution of Standing Desks

Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office mainstay 
has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve health and 
productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while working is not 
a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back hundreds of years.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hi James and All, 

Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.  

That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not. 
 

 

Janet   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hi James and All, 

Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.  

That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not. 
 

 

Janet   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recor

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Sure sounds like I would just bust my a**.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

James,

These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the 
desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.





On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of t

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-01 Thread James Bentley

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple TV, 
give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark

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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread James Bentley

I wonder if the screen reader isn't "Voice View?"  My Insignia  and Amazon Fire 
edition tv's both use Voice View.  I think that the menus on both TV's are 
identical.

James B 


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello Mary,

I am certain that the model I purchased is not an Amazon TV for the screen 
reader is definitely not Alexa.

Based on the model's UI, I suspect that the OS is some variant of Android.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hi Mark,
I’m really curious what screen reader is in that TV. That is to say, what 
operating system is it running? I was thinking maybe it’s running Alexa and the 
Amazon system, because I know insignia did or does make some Amazon TV. So 
might it be that?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Mark:
> Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
> would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have? 
>  Is it electric?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
> technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up 
> when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of 
> the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's 
> house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I

Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread William James

The only thing I found in the commands for the regular bluetooth keyboardis shift plus M.  Use the VO modifier in conjunction with that key.  Hold them down and see if that will do what you want.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
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RE: Question about iPhone case

2024-05-04 Thread James Bentley

Do any of these tech 21 cases have a place for a lanyard?

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about iPhone case

 

Amazon is probably the best place as you can find literally dozens and dozens 
of different cases. I personally like the Tech 21 cases as they are thin but 
very tough.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Question about iPhone case

 

Do you have the phone number?

Just in case, where else can I buy a case?

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Question about iPhone case

 

I don’t know if they sell cases, but could it have been ATGuys?

I believe that phone is identical in size and button configuration as the 
iPhone 8.  So a case for the 8, SE and SE 2022 should fit.

 

www.atguys.com <http://www.atguys.com> 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Question about iPhone case

 

Hello,

 

I just bought a new iPhone, SE2022 because my mother poured some sauerkraut on 
hers, so I gave her mine.

I want to have another case like the one I had, but I don’t remember where I 
bought  it. The name of the place was something like t-guide.

 

Rena

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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

2024-05-03 Thread James Bentley

Quite strange.  Maybe another call to Apple with the latest information will 
help.

Hope you get this resolved.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

James, 

 

Ok I just tried to toggle on the caller ID again, and now I got a message 
saying I can’t save caller ID settings, the only option I get then is to 
dismiss the caller ID settings.  

Thank you any way!  

 

Janet   

 

This gets stranger and stranger.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.

 

I’m using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

James, 

 

So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
Id show up as it is turned on? 

 

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.

 

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 

 

On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they 
will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

2024-05-03 Thread James Bentley

Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.

 

I’m using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

James, 

 

So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
Id show up as it is turned on? 

 

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.

 

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 

 

On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they 
will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

2024-05-02 Thread James Bentley

I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.

 

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 





On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they 
will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



   Janet



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RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

2024-04-18 Thread James Bentley

Richard, I’m glad that you got me interested in this.

I found an app called open a I chat gtt  that looks like loads of fun.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

Well James, I stand corrected. After the last update,  it now brings up the two 
subscriptions. I have now deleted the app. I will stick with Perplexity, which 
is still free. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:54 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Well, in the app description of the one I mentioned, it specifies Pro with the 
subscriptions. I've used it more than a week, and got nothing about 
subscribing. So, perhaps I will soon, or there is a difference between the 
generic app and the pro. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:20 PM, James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



No, I did not sign up for the subscription.

You get a 3 day trial followed by two ways to pay.

Weekly for I think it was $7.00, and I think $57.00 per year.

 

I could have loads of fun with this but I want to wait until the price is lower.

 

James B 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

I have not been charged yet. I did not sign up or subscribe. Did you sign up 
for something? If it is a subscription, check under your iPhone settings, 
double tap on your name, and then subscriptions to check. 

I have not used it daily. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 











On Apr 17, 2024, at 6:52 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>  wrote:



That’s pretty cool!

 

Vivian and Sallie from Walla Walla, USA

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
wiljame...@gmail.com <mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

There is a benefit for using ChatGPT.  Here is a dialog with me and it about 
the Augusta National Golf Club.  Keep in mind I have never seen the Augusta 
National, let alone set foot on it, even though I am from there.

 

You

I am visually impaired. I have never been to the Augusta national, so describe 
the layout of the chorus and the holes to me!

 

ChatGPT

The Augusta National Golf Club, home of the Masters Tournament, is renowned for 
its stunning layout. The course features a hilly terrain with lush green 
fairways and beautiful azalea-lined pathways.

The front nine holes wind through the Georgia pines, starting with the 
relatively short par-4 first hole and leading to the iconic par-3 12th hole, 
known as "Golden Bell," which requires a precise tee shot over Rae's Creek to a 
narrow green.

The back nine is known for its challenging closing stretch, including the 
famous par-5 13th hole, named "Azalea," which offers players a risk-reward 
opportunity for eagle or birdie. The par-4 18th hole, "Holly," demands accuracy 
off the tee to avoid the fairway bunkers and sets up a dramatic approach shot 
to the elevated green.

Overall, Augusta National's layout is characterized by its strategic bunkering, 
undulating greens, and picturesque water hazards, providing a challenging yet 
picturesque test for the world's best golfers.

 

You

Tell me about Amen Corner from Augusta National.

 

ChatGPT

Amen Corner is one of the most famous stretches of holes at Augusta National 
Golf Club, specifically holes 11, 12, and 13. This iconic trio of holes begins 
with the par-4 11th, named "White Dogwood," which features a narrow tee shot 
and an approach to a green guarded by a pond on the left. Then comes the 
legendary par-3 12th, known as "Golden Bell," where players must navigate a tee 
shot over Rae's Creek to a small, undulating green protected by bunkers. 
Finally, t

RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

2024-04-17 Thread James Bentley

Perplexity,.  I think I will go check this out.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 10:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

Well James, I stand corrected. After the last update,  it now brings up the two 
subscriptions. I have now deleted the app. I will stick with Perplexity, which 
is still free. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:54 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Well, in the app description of the one I mentioned, it specifies Pro with the 
subscriptions. I've used it more than a week, and got nothing about 
subscribing. So, perhaps I will soon, or there is a difference between the 
generic app and the pro. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:20 PM, James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



No, I did not sign up for the subscription.

You get a 3 day trial followed by two ways to pay.

Weekly for I think it was $7.00, and I think $57.00 per year.

 

I could have loads of fun with this but I want to wait until the price is lower.

 

James B 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

I have not been charged yet. I did not sign up or subscribe. Did you sign up 
for something? If it is a subscription, check under your iPhone settings, 
double tap on your name, and then subscriptions to check. 

I have not used it daily. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 











On Apr 17, 2024, at 6:52 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>  wrote:



That’s pretty cool!

 

Vivian and Sallie from Walla Walla, USA

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
wiljame...@gmail.com <mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

There is a benefit for using ChatGPT.  Here is a dialog with me and it about 
the Augusta National Golf Club.  Keep in mind I have never seen the Augusta 
National, let alone set foot on it, even though I am from there.

 

You

I am visually impaired. I have never been to the Augusta national, so describe 
the layout of the chorus and the holes to me!

 

ChatGPT

The Augusta National Golf Club, home of the Masters Tournament, is renowned for 
its stunning layout. The course features a hilly terrain with lush green 
fairways and beautiful azalea-lined pathways.

The front nine holes wind through the Georgia pines, starting with the 
relatively short par-4 first hole and leading to the iconic par-3 12th hole, 
known as "Golden Bell," which requires a precise tee shot over Rae's Creek to a 
narrow green.

The back nine is known for its challenging closing stretch, including the 
famous par-5 13th hole, named "Azalea," which offers players a risk-reward 
opportunity for eagle or birdie. The par-4 18th hole, "Holly," demands accuracy 
off the tee to avoid the fairway bunkers and sets up a dramatic approach shot 
to the elevated green.

Overall, Augusta National's layout is characterized by its strategic bunkering, 
undulating greens, and picturesque water hazards, providing a challenging yet 
picturesque test for the world's best golfers.

 

You

Tell me about Amen Corner from Augusta National.

 

ChatGPT

Amen Corner is one of the most famous stretches of holes at Augusta National 
Golf Club, specifically holes 11, 12, and 13. This iconic trio of holes begins 
with the par-4 11th, named "White Dogwood," which features a narrow tee shot 
and an approach to a green guarded by a pond on the left. Then comes the 
legendary par-3 12th, known as "Golden Bell," where players must navigate a tee 
shot over Rae's Creek to a small, undulating green protected by bunkers. 
Finally, the stretch concludes with the par-5 13th, named "Azalea," which 
offe

RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

2024-04-17 Thread James Bentley

No, I did not sign up for the subscription.

You get a 3 day trial followed by two ways to pay.

Weekly for I think it was $7.00, and I think $57.00 per year.

 

I could have loads of fun with this but I want to wait until the price is lower.

 

James B 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

I have not been charged yet. I did not sign up or subscribe. Did you sign up 
for something? If it is a subscription, check under your iPhone settings, 
double tap on your name, and then subscriptions to check. 

I have not used it daily. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 17, 2024, at 6:52 PM, blazie.g...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blazie.g...@gmail.com>  wrote:



That’s pretty cool!

 

Vivian and Sallie from Walla Walla, USA

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
wiljame...@gmail.com <mailto:wiljame...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

There is a benefit for using ChatGPT.  Here is a dialog with me and it about 
the Augusta National Golf Club.  Keep in mind I have never seen the Augusta 
National, let alone set foot on it, even though I am from there.

 

You

I am visually impaired. I have never been to the Augusta national, so describe 
the layout of the chorus and the holes to me!

 

ChatGPT

The Augusta National Golf Club, home of the Masters Tournament, is renowned for 
its stunning layout. The course features a hilly terrain with lush green 
fairways and beautiful azalea-lined pathways.

The front nine holes wind through the Georgia pines, starting with the 
relatively short par-4 first hole and leading to the iconic par-3 12th hole, 
known as "Golden Bell," which requires a precise tee shot over Rae's Creek to a 
narrow green.

The back nine is known for its challenging closing stretch, including the 
famous par-5 13th hole, named "Azalea," which offers players a risk-reward 
opportunity for eagle or birdie. The par-4 18th hole, "Holly," demands accuracy 
off the tee to avoid the fairway bunkers and sets up a dramatic approach shot 
to the elevated green.

Overall, Augusta National's layout is characterized by its strategic bunkering, 
undulating greens, and picturesque water hazards, providing a challenging yet 
picturesque test for the world's best golfers.

 

You

Tell me about Amen Corner from Augusta National.

 

ChatGPT

Amen Corner is one of the most famous stretches of holes at Augusta National 
Golf Club, specifically holes 11, 12, and 13. This iconic trio of holes begins 
with the par-4 11th, named "White Dogwood," which features a narrow tee shot 
and an approach to a green guarded by a pond on the left. Then comes the 
legendary par-3 12th, known as "Golden Bell," where players must navigate a tee 
shot over Rae's Creek to a small, undulating green protected by bunkers. 
Finally, the stretch concludes with the par-5 13th, named "Azalea," which 
offers a chance for players to make up ground with a well-placed tee shot 
followed by a strategic approach over Rae's Creek to an elevated green.

Amen Corner gained its name from Herbert Warren Wind, a golf writer, who coined 
the term in a 1958 Sports Illustrated article. The name stuck, and today Amen 
Corner is synonymous with one of the most challenging and picturesque parts of 
Augusta National, where many pivotal moments in the Masters Tournament have 
unfolded over the years.

 

You

Describe the other holes to me.

 

ChatGPT

Certainly! At Augusta National Golf Club, each hole has its own unique 
characteristics and challenges. Here's a brief overview of the remaining holes:

1.

Hole 1 - Tea Olive: A relatively short par-4 with a wide fairway but guarded by 
bunkers on both sides. It's a gentle start to the round.

2.

Hole 2 - Pink Dogwood: A longer par-5 with a dogleg left. Players must navigate 
bunkers and trees to reach the green in regulation.

3.

Hole 3 - Flowering Peach: A medium-length par-4 with a fairway that slopes from 
right to left. The green is protected by bunkers and requires an accurate 
approach.

4.

Hole 4 - Flowering Crab Apple: Another par-3, this hole features a large, 
undulating green guarded by deep bunkers. Accuracy is key off the tee.

5.

Hole 5 - Magnolia: A challenging par-4 with a narrow fairway and trees lining 
both sides. The green is elevated and sloped, making approach shots difficult.

6.

Hole 6 - Juniper: A long par-3 with a dee

RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

2024-04-17 Thread James Bentley

Richard, this chat A I is not free.  It cost one dollar per day unless you pay 
by the year.

So, will deleting this app from my phone prevent me from incurring fees?  Or, 
is there some thing else that I have to do?

 

Thanks,

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2024 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

 

One of the best I have found when using with VoiceOver on an iPhone is Chat AI 
- Ask Everything

 

 

 

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/chat-ai-ask-everything/id6479610341

 

It is free, and relatively easy to use. You could ask   about writing without 
asking it to write anything for you. I suggest giving it a spin and see how it 
goes. I also use another free app, Perplexity, but Perplexity has a much more 
cluttered screen. 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Apr 12, 2024, at 11:56 PM, Terri Stimmel mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hello everyone,


First of all, please know that I am not trying to start anything, with the 
questions that I am about to ask. I honestly want to understand how these 
things can be of help to me. But, not do all of the work for me.


I am curious, does anyone here use Chat GPT? Or, Microsoft Co-Pilot?

Not sure I spelled that last one correctly.


If anyone here does use these Apps, or any others I might not be aware of, how 
accessible are they?

Also, what might you use them for?


I am currently attending a local community college. My goal is to hopefully get 
my Masters degree. I am a long way off from this though, and life could go in a 
totally different direction. I am also an older student. I don't even know if I 
will ever have a career.


Anyway, one thing I would like to use Chat GPT for, is to get help with my 
writing. I never really learned how to write papers in high school. I feel so 
behind in this area. I am told all the time that I need to kind of learn to BS 
my way through stuff.

However, I am not at all good with that sort of thing.


Please understand, I do not want to cheat! Or, plagiarize anything. I really 
just want to use AI to help me with this huge struggle. I want help with 
structure, and all that. But, I want to make the paper my own. And, make 
changes where necessary.


However, I also want to make use of these Apps, in other ways as well, if this 
can be beneficial for me. I just don't know enough, to know what I might be 
missing out on. I know we do have to be careful, when using any sort of AI. 
And, we need to be smart about what we do. I just think though that all of this 
stuff can really benefit us in a lot of ways.


Thank you to anyone who has read this. Any thoughts, or advice will be very 
much appreciated.


Terri

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Re: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss

2024-04-14 Thread William James

It was problematic early on, but as this has matured, so has the hallucinations or lector of.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 14, 2024, at 2:21 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:







I will warn you that Chat-GPT can sometimes hallucinate. What this means is that it will simply make up information it doesn’t know. So while your conversation seems very detailed and helpful, I would not
 trust it entirely, because Chat-GPT is known to just make up stuff sometimes. And it will tell you about it very confidently.
 
Brandon
 



From:
viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of wiljame...@gmail.com 
Date: Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Using Chat GPT, and other Apss


There is a benefit for using ChatGPT.  Here is a dialog with me and it about the Augusta National Golf Club.  Keep in mind I have never seen the Augusta National, let alone set foot on it, even though I am
 from there.
 
You
I am visually impaired. I have never been to the Augusta national, so describe the layout of the chorus and the holes to me!
ChatGPT
The Augusta National Golf Club, home of the Masters Tournament, is renowned for its stunning layout. The course features a hilly terrain with lush green fairways and beautiful azalea-lined pathways.
The front nine holes wind through the Georgia pines, starting with the relatively short par-4 first hole and leading to the iconic par-3 12th hole, known as "Golden Bell," which requires a precise tee shot
 over Rae's Creek to a narrow green.
The back nine is known for its challenging closing stretch, including the famous par-5 13th hole, named "Azalea," which offers players a risk-reward opportunity for eagle or birdie. The par-4 18th hole, "Holly,"
 demands accuracy off the tee to avoid the fairway bunkers and sets up a dramatic approach shot to the elevated green.
Overall, Augusta National's layout is characterized by its strategic bunkering, undulating greens, and picturesque water hazards, providing a challenging yet picturesque test for the world's best golfers.
 
You
Tell me about Amen Corner from Augusta National.
ChatGPT
Amen Corner is one of the most famous stretches of holes at Augusta National Golf Club, specifically holes 11, 12, and 13. This iconic trio of holes begins with the par-4 11th, named "White Dogwood," which
 features a narrow tee shot and an approach to a green guarded by a pond on the left. Then comes the legendary par-3 12th, known as "Golden Bell," where players must navigate a tee shot over Rae's Creek to a small, undulating green protected by bunkers. Finally,
 the stretch concludes with the par-5 13th, named "Azalea," which offers a chance for players to make up ground with a well-placed tee shot followed by a strategic approach over Rae's Creek to an elevated green.
Amen Corner gained its name from Herbert Warren Wind, a golf writer, who coined the term in a 1958 Sports Illustrated article. The name stuck, and today Amen Corner is synonymous with one of the most challenging
 and picturesque parts of Augusta National, where many pivotal moments in the Masters Tournament have unfolded over the years.
 
You
Describe the other holes to me.
ChatGPT
Certainly! At Augusta National Golf Club, each hole has its own unique characteristics and challenges. Here's a brief overview of the remaining holes:
1.
Hole 1 - Tea Olive: A relatively short par-4 with a wide fairway but guarded by bunkers on both sides. It's a gentle start to the round.
2.
Hole 2 - Pink Dogwood: A longer par-5 with a dogleg left. Players must navigate bunkers and trees to reach the green in regulation.
3.
Hole 3 - Flowering Peach: A medium-length par-4 with a fairway that slopes from right to left. The green is protected by bunkers and requires an accurate approach.
4.
Hole 4 - Flowering Crab Apple: Another par-3, this hole features a large, undulating green guarded by deep bunkers. Accuracy is key off the tee.
5.
Hole 5 - Magnolia: A challenging par-4 with a narrow fairway and trees lining both sides. The green is elevated and sloped, making approach shots difficult.
6.
Hole 6 - Juniper: A long par-3 with a deep bunker guarding the front of the green. It requires a precise tee shot to avoid trouble.
7.
Hole 7 - Pampas: A dogleg right par-4 with a fairway that slopes from left to right. Bunkers and trees come into play on both the tee shot and approach.
8.
Hole 8 - Yellow Jasmine: A shorter par-5 with a slight dogleg left. Big hitters have a chance to reach the green in two, but bunkers and a creek guard the approach.
9.
Hole 9 - Carolina Cherry: A challenging uphill par-4 with a narrow fairway and bunkers strategically placed along the landing area. The green is elevated and sloped, making it tough to hold approach shots.
Each of these holes presents its own set of challenges, requiring strategic thinking and precise execution to navigate successfully.
 
You
What about the rest of the nine holes?
ChatGPT
Sure, let's continue with the description of the remaining holes

Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

2024-03-25 Thread William James

In wilthis house, that would be $120 a year. Maybe we can pull it off. Time will tell. I do agree that it is worth $60, no doubt.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 26, 2024, at 12:14 AM, Marco Curralejo wrote:Lots of complaining on this I’ve got to say. Simple solution, if you don’t want to pay, go and find some other app that fits your needs. If you do, continue to enjoy using an app that works mostly flawlessly and certainly is, in my opinion, worth the $60 per year. Cheers, Marco From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua HendricksonSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 9:11 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream I can’t believe all this negative talk about not wanting to pay $60 per year for voice dream reader. For me, it is one of the best apps out there for reading both ebooks and audio content. I’ll tell you all some of the recent changes the new owners have done for us all. They have recently allowed audio files in M4a format to properly. When you want to change a reading voice for a bookshare book, you now have a search option quickly find the voice you want. You also don’t have to pay for these voices either. You did have to pay around $5 per voice before. So please stop complaining and pay the $60 per year if you can. If people pay the money, think of how much better the app will be. I’ve pcht a lot of time into putting audio books and audio dramas on voice dream reader with iTunes to not pay the $60 price. When we found out that voice dream reader might be charging a subscripttion fee this shouldn’t be a surprise !o anyone. So please if you can, pay the $60!!!Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On Mar 25, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks for the clarification. I never get audiobooks from books share, so book player I don’t care. Kind of sucks. I still think I should be able to download stuff as long as I don’t try to upgrade. You can always do that with everything else. If I have an apple device for instance, and it’s not getting updates anymore I can still use it. This kind of stinks from that aspect. They shouldn’t cut us off from being able to download anything from Bookshare because we don’t want to pay. What if we don’t give a good bloody damn about whatever they think they’re going to implement that we’re going to pay for. I’m not happy about that. But it’s the best thing out there so far. God knows the garbage from speech central doesn’t get it done. It’s too bad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 7:53 PM, William James <wiljame...@gmail.com> wrote:BookPlayer is an audio only player. It plays zipped files, MP3, M4A, and M4B. You can get it from the following link. BookPlayerPlays M4B/M4A/MP3 audiobooks Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.Mary Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

2024-03-25 Thread William James

Believe me, I fully understand and don't blame the developers from implementing something we knew was coming.  Guess what?  I gotta eat too!Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 8:24 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Developers have to eat too. They should get paid. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 7:05 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream So I opened up the app again and got the banner at the bottom of the screen. Not sure if I’ll sign onto the $60, but honestly, I more than got my money’s worth and then some for this app if this is the case. I believe BookPlayer also has an in-app payment option for cloud storage and syncing. For some folks, the 60 bucks for VDR might even be worth it as you can use just one app for both eBooks and audiobooks. Everyone knows their own budget though.Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary OttenSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream I tend to agree with you, Richard. What is book player if you know? I had never heard of bookplayer app. There is no way I’m going to speech Central. It’s just too clunky. If he did what he’s been asked to do and implemented an easy way to download bookshare books right through the app, Then I would possibly reconsider. But I don’t give two figures for all that fancy Voice stuff he’s doing. I’m perfectly happy with what I have now.Mary Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have not updated today.But, if anyone wants to go back and look at what Winston Chen had said when he sold Voice Dream LLC., he made it clear that he would have had to begin charging a subscription to be able to maintain development and he had already started the Mac version as a subscription.$59 a year seems perfectly reasonable to me if you want the app to continue.You can always dump it for DAISY Easy Reader or Speech Central and deal with much harder interfaces and keep it free… Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008e01da7f0d%24e3f975d0%24abec6170%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/64CDE085-7D79-41B2-B513-4EE91B1DF9A1%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

2024-03-25 Thread William James

All I saw was a blurb about a price change.  I'll wait and see.  If I don't like it, BookPlayer, here I come!  I'll miss the syncing between my phone and iPad, but I don't get that with ARD now.  I'll adjust.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Mar 25, 2024, at 5:35 PM, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
Well, for me I was a one time payment
person.  No subscription here.

  
dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 5:14 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz
  wrote:


  
  
I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for
  those who received that message, were you one time purchasers
  or already on the subscription based model?  I got the VDR
  update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought
  the app way back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my
  money’s worth. 
There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer which is very
  accessible. 
You can always use Apple’s native book app
  for eBooks and Kindle even supports ePub files now.
 
 

  Cristóbal

 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  

 
I updated and when the notice came up in the app I
clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the screen
and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.
 
Not impressed.
 
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


   
  

  Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

  
  

  


  On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
  

  Where did you receive this message?
 I updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying
something about a price change, but didn't get to read
in more detail because It got closed before I could do
something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us
enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com

On Behalf Of regina alvarado
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons
for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long.
It was a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with
MBraille I was one of the first to buy it for I think 5
dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more
important places to put my money. On Social Security
with a guide dog and so guess it goes away. Still want
to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has read to
me.  

Reggie Alvarado 

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Re: Question about Gmail?

2024-03-21 Thread William James

You know what they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!



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> On Mar 21, 2024, at 8:56 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody I am running latest version of iOS 16 in the SE 202 second 
> edition. I was just wondering is the native mail app the best way to manage 
> and use Gmail. I’m using the native mail app right now and everything seems 
> to be OK. Just wondering if I might be better off if I got the actual Gmail 
> app? it seems like everything seems to work out OK at this point. Just 
> wondering what y’all might think.
> 
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Changing region settings in the Amazon app on iOS?

2024-03-19 Thread James

Hey folks!

I'm trying to change the Amazon app so that I can use my account on 
amazon.ca and not amazon.com, but I'm having a heck of a time doing that. 
Is there an accessible way to do it? I've got the latest version of the 
app, and iOS 17.3. What am I missing? Thanks!

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Re: What Navigation App Are You Using These Days?

2024-03-09 Thread William James

Voice vista is another good one.  It is similar to SoundScape Community.

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:16 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I too like Google Maps and use it the most when navigating for a driver.
> What I really like about it over Apple Maps is that you can do a route 
> walk-through quite easily.
> But, it is only a turn-by-turn program, it doesn't tell you about the streets 
> you are crossing, etc.  That is where something like GoodMaps Outdoors, or 
> some of the other GPS apps with blindness in mind are helpful.
> BlindSquare does a nice job of this, but it is $39.99.  And the BlindSquare 
> database for points of interest may not be updated as often, though I think 
> that will change in time.  
> 
> Remember, GoodMaps Outdoors is the same as the Sendero GPS only free instead 
> of a few hundred dollars that it had cost when it first came out and later a 
> couple hundred when AIRA bought it.  Then, they basically gave it to the APH 
> connected GoodMaps group where Mike May is now working.  Mike had been the 
> founder of Sendero and prime mover behind Sendero GPS and what came before.  
> He is the true pioneer in navigation systems for the blind.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."
> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155)
> JAWS version 2024.2403.3
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
> Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What Navigation App Are You Using These Days?
> 
> Nearby Explorer was definitely the best GPS app for getting location 
> information. It’s a shame that development of that app was discontinued. I 
> would say the two best apps for that now are Blindsquare and Good Maps 
> Outdoors. For navigation I think Google Maps is one of the best choices.
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2024, at 1:29 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> What navigation/GPS apps are you using these days?
>> 
>> I tried Lazarillo and didn’t find it as good as I’d remembered when it
>> first came out. That’s purely subjective. I felt the directions and
>> general awareness weren’t consistent, but again, just a me thing.
>> 
>> I tried VoiceVista and did not find it quite as good as I’d remembered
>> SoundScape.
>> 
>> I’m going to keep working with both apps, because I’m convinced it’s
>> just me quickly opening apps when I need them in the moment and not
>> necessarily exploring them when I have a little more time to
>> familiarize myself with the interface.
>> 
>> I like Google Maps and the native Maps app, the former slightly more
>> for its ability to tell me if the destination is on the left or right,
>> but I feel as though I have to supplement these with a third party app
>> to get a more complete experience. In my opinion, nothing compares to
>> Nearby Explorer, but I’m working with blind students who would ideally
>> get the right navigation app at little or no cost.
>> 
>> Thank you kindly in advance for your recommendations and explanation
>> for what makes your navigation app the best one in your opinion.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
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Voiceover choppy

2024-03-04 Thread James Lockwood

I have two iPhone 15 pro maxs. Also have the most up to date iOS. Voice over 
voice seems choppy at times. I use Samantha enhanced. I have tried fixing it 
with deleting the enhanced downloaded voice and redownloading it. But it still 
is choppy at times randomly. Anyone else experience this as well? 

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Apple Pencil question

2024-02-12 Thread James Lockwood

I am completely blind. I have a new iPad mini6. I have been thinking about 
getting the apple pencil but am not sure if there is any point to doing so 
since I am blind. The idea would be for me to be able to quickly take down a 
note such as jotting down a phone number, assuming that the iPad can turn 
handwriting into printed text. So, does anyone have any answers as to whether I 
should get one? Does the apple pencil work with voice over? Will the iPad 
reliably convert handwriting into printed text as advertised? Thanks in advance.

 

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RE: Siri is having issues

2024-02-10 Thread James Bentley

Here in East Texas, Siri is working fine.  I Hope you are only experienceing a 
temporary local outage.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 12:00 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Siri is having issues

 

I just asked Siri a couple questions, it just made a noise that sounded like 
someone tapping on a metal drum, then said, something went wrong. I launched 
the Amazon Alexa app and asked Alexa, and got an answer. I went back to Siri 
and got the same noise and something went wrong. That tells me it is not my 
wi-fi,  but the Siri server. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-05 Thread William James

It’s all good Sieghard!  No problem! LOL!  Best I can do since I can’t get emojis on this bluetooth keyboard.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Feb 5, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







And I should have put a 
藍 or  emoji after it because I meant my comment not in a negative way, was just bugging you.
 


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Subject: RE: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list


 
But by saying “The knothead who ran the list” you do in fact say quite a lot.
 


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The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!

 


 


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max


 

On Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard <richard.pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:





Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if there’s a page or other information about the list.
 


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Hello all,
please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.
    I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.
Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where general questions about technology can be posted?
I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.
If you have more info, please write me at:
maria.orovcik...@gmail.com
Just to avoid off-topic discussion here.
Thanks.
Maria
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Re: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list

2024-02-03 Thread William James

The knothead who ran the list all of a sudden shut down the list and deleted over 20 years of archives.  I could say more, but my mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Feb 3, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Richard  wrote:Don’t know if the list is still operated. Try googleing the name and see if there’s a page or other information about the list. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária OrovcíkováSent: Friday, February 2, 2024 5:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Of-topic question - Blindtech mailing list Hello all,please, sory for off-topic question, but I don't know where to ask and many people who are on this list are on other lists, so I might find info here.    I used to be a member of "Blindtech" list and it was pretty active, but all of a sudden I stopped getting mails from the list and when I tried to post a question, it says the group is not available any more.Please, does anyone know what happened and if there is any other list where general questions about technology can be posted?I liked Blindtech, it has helped me with many things.If you have more info, please write me at:maria.orovcik...@gmail.comJust to avoid off-topic discussion here.Thanks.Maria-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/c516620d-a99a-4516-8a42-4ace5d346e11%40gmail.com.



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Re: Uber Eats issue

2024-01-29 Thread William James

Not a problem!  When in doubt, Google is your friend!


Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Jan 30, 2024, at 12:09 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, William.
> 
> This is great info.  I did not know they had a customer service number.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William James
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Uber Eats issue
> 
> In adition to the help button, store this number in your contact.  Denise and 
> I have had to call Uber Eats and were very satisfied with the results.
> 
> Ubereats Customer Service Phone Number (800) 253-9377
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air 5
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2024, at 11:36 PM, Matt White <mailto:mbwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you get into your order status, there is a help button for each order. If 
> you click on that, it’ll walk you through a form where you can select issues 
> like the order never arrived. They will most likely just issue you a refund.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2024, at 22:29, mailto:billoutman...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello, list.  
> I had a mishap occur earlier this evening I have never experienced, and 
> wonder what additional steps I need to take.  
> I put in a McDonald’s order but the driver never showed, and despite repeated 
> attempts I could not connect with her.  So I rated her thumbs down and 
> selected a couple options for problems, but they didn’t really fit.  
> I put in a second order, the same one I had intended, a bit later, and it 
> came.  I discussed with the fellow what had happened, and he didn’t have any 
> further advice other than what I had done and to contact Uber.  
> I am concerned about having a double charge when I only got the one order.  I 
> need to know the correct procedure to follow at this point.  
> 
> I have in the last wee already had to eat, quite literally, a pizza order 
> situation wherein I ended up with a double order because a call center messed 
> up and two orders got run when I was left on hold for taking my check card 
> number, and a second agent reran the order since we didn’t know the first one 
> had been sent.  At least then I had an overabundance that I could enjoy over 
> a couple days.  
> 
> Bill Outman
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Re: Uber Eats issue

2024-01-29 Thread William James

In adition to the help button, store this number in your contact.  Denise and I have had to call Uber Eats and were very satisfied with the results. Ubereats Customer Service Phone Number (800) 253-9377Sent from my iPad Air 5On Jan 29, 2024, at 11:36 PM, Matt White  wrote:If you get into your order status, there is a help button for each order. If you click on that, it’ll walk you through a form where you can select issues like the order never arrived. They will most likely just issue you a refund.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 29, 2024, at 22:29, billoutman...@gmail.com wrote:Hello, list.  I had a mishap occur earlier this evening I have never experienced, and wonder what additional steps I need to take.  I put in a McDonald’s order but the driver never showed, and despite repeated attempts I could not connect with her.  So I rated her thumbs down and selected a couple options for problems, but they didn’t really fit.  I put in a second order, the same one I had intended, a bit later, and it came.  I discussed with the fellow what had happened, and he didn’t have any further advice other than what I had done and to contact Uber.  I am concerned about having a double charge when I only got the one order.  I need to know the correct procedure to follow at this point.   I have in the last wee already had to eat, quite literally, a pizza order situation wherein I ended up with a double order because a call center messed up and two orders got run when I was left on hold for taking my check card number, and a second agent reran the order since we didn’t know the first one had been sent.  At least then I had an overabundance that I could enjoy over a couple days.   Bill Outman  



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Re: Webex calling app on iPhone

2024-01-16 Thread William James

I use Digits from T-Mobile.  You can get an alternate number and forward your office line to Digits or any other number.  That is what I do for work.  I have a different ringtone for this line so I can answer appropriately.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jan 16, 2024, at 10:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







That is correct, but all you see is the recent calls and if you tap on a recent call entry in the Phone app which came from Whatsapp then the return call goes through Whatsapp. However, you cannot
 initiate a new Whatsapp call from the phone app unless you go through Contacts and I would certainly also want WebEx itself to be accessible if I had to use it. I use a VoIP service here in Canada which is from Telus, one of our large providers. They have
 their own app although they use Ringcentral for the underlying infrastructure and there are still plenty of reasons why I have to use the Telus BizConnect app which is the app they have, fortunately it is pretty accessible.
 


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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 4:58 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Webex calling app on iPhone


 
First I found Cisco WEBEx to be annoying on Macintosh computers, but that was not the question.

Most VOIP solutions  (FaceTime, Google Voice, Microsoft Teams, WhatsApp) integrate with the iPhone’s phone app. I can see all my WhatsApp and Teams calls in my phone app recent calls history and I can answer them with a two finger double
 tap or a press of my headphones button. So I would expect that WebEx should have this level of integration too.


Good Luck Jonathan Cohn 


 



On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:50 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:

 


At work, we use Webex softphones on our laptops.  They have rolled out ability for us to request using a Webex app on our phones so we can make an receive work calls on our mobile phones as if we were at our laptops.   I’m wondering if
 anyone has used this app to know how accessible it is with Voiceover.    I can select another option to have calls just forward to my cell phone and not use the Webex app, but my manager has this and says there is no way to know if the call is a personal one
 or work related and there is no caller ID, so she ends up answering all calls.  Using the Webex app would provide better separation between work and personal and allow me to just log out when I don’t want to get work calls, but it may be cumbersome to get
 to calls quickly with voiceover.    
 
Robin on iPhone SE 2020 running latest IOS
 
 
 


 

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Re: Sirius app update improvements and observations

2023-12-22 Thread William James

I do like how they have all channels in the search tab.  If I want to browse the channels to see what’s on, I use All Channels.On Christmas Eve, Denise and I will be smoking some ribs and probably put Rock Bar on.  Love that channel!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Dec 22, 2023, at 5:42 PM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
  

  
  
Hi Wayne,

I downloaded the update today and I am still confused. I am having a
great difficulty getting to the NFL play by play area. I keep
getting the last station played player open without playing and I
cannot get rid of it, even if I close the app and restart it.
On 12/22/2023 5:22 PM, Wayne Merritt
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Greetings.
  For the Sirius/XM app users on list, there was an update today
  which has some accessibility enhancements. After installing the
  update, I found headings showed up in different places within the
  app, such as on the Discover tab when navigating among sections of
  the screen. I also found headings on screens for channels I would
  like to listen to. Granted, I haven’t explored all parts of the
  app, and it will take some experimenting but this was a welcome
  surprise. Especially when so many people, including me, were upset
  with the recent major update which changed a lot of things and
  brought many unlabeled buttons. Sirius is my main source for NFL
  games, and I like their weekly countdown shows on the 80’s and
  90’s channels. I wish they gave us more of a traditional means of
  organizing favorites with the edit/done buttons and being able to
  reorder favorites with rodor actions. Oh well. Hopefully the app
  will continue to improve. There are a lot of things I really like
  about the main Sirius/XM app which one does not get from the more
  simplified StarPlayerX app.
  
  
  Happy Holidays,
  Wayne 

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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

2023-12-16 Thread James Bentley

This information is extremely helpful because it is accurate and explained with 
clear examples.

 

James B  

 

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to 
show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an 
email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my 
computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent 
folder or wherever I move it to.

Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don’t want it 
because it’s spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said 
email to be deleted on all my devices?

As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your 
mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local 
copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read 
an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email 
and it shows as replied to  on the other, you sent an email on one device and 
the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You 
add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is 
also there on your computer and vice versa. 

It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work 
when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never 
designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can 
specify to “leave mail on server” on one device, but then this does not do 
anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on 
your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on 
your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent 
messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the 
past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it’s definitely 
not.

The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything 
is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, 
you don’t even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then 
restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new 
device when you set up the account and everything magically appears.

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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Re: Watch and stand hours

2023-12-07 Thread William James

It’s on page 4 but the data is not making any sense to me.  For example, I hear 
0 to 1 1800.  What the hell does that mean anyway?

Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Dec 7, 2023, at 4:25 PM, tai.toma...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I agree and have the same question.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Watch and stand hours
> 
> Ugh, since the latest update, I do not like the fitness information. I use to 
> be able to tap my hours and it would open up to my day’s summery. I could 
> easily see if I still needed my stand for the current hour.
> 
> Is there an alternative way to find this information? Now, there are 6 pages 
> to flick through, and I still don’t find the current hours stand data.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

2023-12-06 Thread James Bentley

I have a friend who will let me use her TracFone card for over seas calls 
before her minutes run out..

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

I would ask if the person you are calling uses WhatsApp, it’s much more widely 
used in Europe and many parts of Asia and if so thenyou can make that call for 
free and with much better quality as a regular phone call.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

Good to know.  I need to place a call to India in a few days.

 

James B  

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

And my apologies, I gave you wrong information. I am originally from Germany 
and it is 00 you dial when you call from there, if you are calling from North 
America (Canada or the US) you have to dial 011 and then the country code. For 
example, 011-49 would be for Germany, 011-44 for the United Kingdom.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

Well, this makes it a lot easyer.

 

Thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

If you are dialing from the dialpad and don’t want to add the number to your 
contacts it is much easier to dial 00 in front of the country code, e.g. if you 
want to call the United Kingdom which has a country code of 44, you would dial 
0044 and then the number.

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

First, the shift is not available unless you are adding a number in contacts. 
When you are adding a number in contacts,tThe shift button is in the lower 
left. Depending on your VO settings, either touch and release it, or double 
tap, then the plus sign will be where the 0 was to the right of the shift 
button. 

HTH, 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Dec 6, 2023, at 8:55 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

Kim,

Try holding down the shift key, then swiping right.  You should find the plus 
symbol there.

Pam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

Hello,

I need to make an international call requiring that I place a plus sign before 
the number.  VO tells me to press and hold the zero for the plus sign but 
that’s not working.  How do I access the plus sign when dialing a phone number?


Thanks,


Kim

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RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

2023-12-06 Thread James Bentley

Good to know.  I need to place a call to India in a few days.

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

And my apologies, I gave you wrong information. I am originally from Germany 
and it is 00 you dial when you call from there, if you are calling from North 
America (Canada or the US) you have to dial 011 and then the country code. For 
example, 011-49 would be for Germany, 011-44 for the United Kingdom.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

Well, this makes it a lot easyer.

 

Thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

If you are dialing from the dialpad and don’t want to add the number to your 
contacts it is much easier to dial 00 in front of the country code, e.g. if you 
want to call the United Kingdom which has a country code of 44, you would dial 
0044 and then the number.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

First, the shift is not available unless you are adding a number in contacts. 
When you are adding a number in contacts,tThe shift button is in the lower 
left. Depending on your VO settings, either touch and release it, or double 
tap, then the plus sign will be where the 0 was to the right of the shift 
button. 

HTH, 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Dec 6, 2023, at 8:55 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com <mailto:paekstr...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

Kim,

Try holding down the shift key, then swiping right.  You should find the plus 
symbol there.

Pam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

Hello,

I need to make an international call requiring that I place a plus sign before 
the number.  VO tells me to press and hold the zero for the plus sign but 
that’s not working.  How do I access the plus sign when dialing a phone number?


Thanks,


Kim

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RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

2023-12-06 Thread James Bentley

Well, this makes it a lot easyer.

 

Thank you very much.

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

If you are dialing from the dialpad and don’t want to add the number to your 
contacts it is much easier to dial 00 in front of the country code, e.g. if you 
want to call the United Kingdom which has a country code of 44, you would dial 
0044 and then the number.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

 

First, the shift is not available unless you are adding a number in contacts. 
When you are adding a number in contacts,tThe shift button is in the lower 
left. Depending on your VO settings, either touch and release it, or double 
tap, then the plus sign will be where the 0 was to the right of the shift 
button. 

HTH, 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

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wrote:

Kim,

Try holding down the shift key, then swiping right.  You should find the plus 
symbol there.

Pam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 11:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Plus sign when dialing a phone number?

Hello,

I need to make an international call requiring that I place a plus sign before 
the number.  VO tells me to press and hold the zero for the plus sign but 
that’s not working.  How do I access the plus sign when dialing a phone number?


Thanks,


Kim

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RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

2023-11-30 Thread James Bentley

If possible, purchase 2 power banks and charge both fully.

 

Then, when the first goes dead, plug it in to charge and you still have a fully 
charged power bank ready to go.  Then, just keep alternating the power banks 
and you will always have plenty of reserve power.

 

James B  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

 

Not directly. Since it can be left plugged in, it should be fully charged when 
needed. However, it would be possible to use an app like Be My Eyes to ask a 
sighted person to look through your phone's camera at the power bank and find 
out that way.



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On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:25 PM Traci Duncan mailto:our4p...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello, I’m a little delayed in this thread, but I have a question.

With the Anker GAN Prime, is there a way to tell how much battery is left in 
the power bank?

Thanks,
Traci


> On Nov 25, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
> 
> You must live in a part of the world which may experience serious 
> storms/hurricanes where power outages can last many days.
> Anker has such a solution as well, 2400 Watts (2048 WH or Watt Hours) with a 
> second battery to double that capacity and an optional 200 Watt capacity 
> solar charging panel:
> Anker SOLIX F2000 (PowerHouse 767) - 2048Wh | 2400W - Anker Canada
> And there is another company called Bluetty which does similar stuff.
> Of course most people don't want to require a backpack to lug around their 
> battery and at least for me I don't need a separate hotspot because I have a 
> lot of data for my iPhone and if I want to use my laptop somewhere I don't 
> have Wi-Fi I can simply use my iPhone as a hotspot.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Minor
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: RE: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I'll throw another power bank to consider. It's a lot more expensive, but for 
> what it does, it's great. Check out
> 
> http://goalzero.com
> 
> They make a battery that works quite well. I have two of these, the Yeti 200X 
> and the Yeti 1000X. The numbers refer to the wattage these give. The 200X has 
> an AC plug on it, two USB A, 2 USB c, and a 12 volt plug, which is a lighter 
> adaptor. It has a display on it, and weighs six pounds. I put it in a back 
> pack to power my 5G hot spot. The 1000X has the same plugs on it, with the 
> addition of a second AC outlet. As I said, these ain't cheap, the 200X 
> costing about $300, and the 1000X costing about $1,400. The 1000X is pretty 
> large, but I got it for a long lasting backup to power my internet, computer, 
> and smart speakers. If you want portability, what I'm mentioning isn't the 
> best solution, but it works for me.
> 
> Just throwing something out there. Oh yeah, the 1000X can have another 
> battery added to it to give even longer lasting backup. I might do that at a 
> later time, but I think this adds $400 to the cost. These batteries also can 
> have solar cells added to them to charge them.
> 
> Kevin and Jilly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Mike Arrigo
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms
> 
> Anker makes great power banks, so does Mophie, Ugreen and Otterbox.
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Margaret Thomas > <mailto:avidrea...@fastmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, All:
>> 
>> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
>> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
>> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
>> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
>> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
>> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
>> 
>> I've heard a

Re: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

2023-11-15 Thread William James

I would too, but you know as well as I do that having speech in the BIOS will never happen in our lifetimes.  AI is the way to go!Sent from my iPad Air 5On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






I'd rather have software to help in the bios.I'll 
admit that knowing what is on the screen is a benefit. I want to actually work 
as I normally do anywhere else.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  William 
  James 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 1:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Microsoft’s Disability 
  Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual 
  Assistant from Be My Eyes
  
  
  I think this is very awesome to have!  I would love to see 
  if it would help me with a BIOS.  Now that would be ground-breaking for 
  sure!
  
  
  Get Outlook for 
  iOS
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on 
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  Wednesday, November 15, 2023 12:45:16 PMTo: VIPhone Email List 
  Subject: Fwd: Microsoft’s 
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  Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes 
   
  
  I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at 
  least the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might 
  be interested in the below announcement. 
  
  Alan Lemly 
  Sent from my iPhone
  Begin forwarded message:
  
From: Mike from Be My Eyes 
Date: November 15, 2023 at 
10:59:11 AM CSTTo: Alan Lemly 
Subject: Microsoft’s Disability 
Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual 
Assistant from Be My EyesReply-To: 
no-re...@bemyeyes.com
  
 











Read it online


Hi Alan, We are excited to announce a 
new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: Microsoft's Disability Answer 
Desk is now powered by Be My AI. The introduction of Be My AI to 
Microsoft’s offering on Be My Eyes opens the door to a revolutionary new way 
to get immediate assistance through Specialized Help. To visit Microsoft’s 
profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to Specialized Help. Here you 
can select “Technical” and click on Microsoft to open their profile on Be My 
Eyes. You can now tap on the new “Chat with Be My AI” button on Microsoft’s 
profile and ask any question through a text message! Blind users of Be My 
Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human conversations with 
a Microsoft agent. Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft 
account, reboot your laptop, or install and update software, Microsoft’s 
AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk can assist you with a number of tasks. 
This new service from Microsoft on Be My Eyes is available to all iOS users 
and is coming soon for Android devices. You can reach out to Microsoft’s 
AI-Powered Disability Answer 24/7 from over 150 countries worldwide. The 
service is currently available in English. You can learn more about 
Microsoft’s AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on our new blog post Introducing 
Microsoft's AI-Powered Disability Answer Desk on Be My Eyes PS: 
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Re: xm radio app

2023-11-15 Thread William James

If you like rock from the 60' through today, give Rock Bar a shot.  Channel 713 
is where it' at.
 Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Nov 15, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Rhonda Hornbacher  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I am becoming more familiar with the regular app. I will purchase the paid 
> app also for ease of use.
> 
> Thanks for all assistance,
> R
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2023, at 8:29 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The only place I've found a search is on the recently played items tab.
>> It doesn't seem limited to stuff you have already played.
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
 On Nov 14, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Amy rule  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I can use the app without any problem, except that I am unable to find any 
>>> way to search. Anybody know where that edit field is, if it exists? Thanks.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 14, 2023, at 1:15 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
 
 I use the Sirius XM app on a daily basis with no issues.
 
 Andy
 
 - Original Message - From: "Rhonda Hornbacher" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 5:47 AM
 Subject: xm radio app
 
 
> .
> 
> Is there a more user friendly app I can use to access xm radio content? 
> If so, what is the name of this app.
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> Thanks so much,
> Hi friends,
> 
> I find the xm radio app on my phone to be nonintuitive
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Re: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

2023-11-15 Thread William James

I think this is very awesome to have!  I would love to see if it would help me 
with a BIOS.  Now that would be ground-breaking for sure!

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Alan 
Lemly 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 12:45:16 PM
To: VIPhone Email List 
Subject: Fwd: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, 
the Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes

I'm not sure I want AI handling my Microsoft accessibility issues but at least 
the below states a live person can be requested. Thought the list might be 
interested in the below announcement.

Alan Lemly
Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: Mike from Be My Eyes 
Date: November 15, 2023 at 10:59:11 AM CST
To: Alan Lemly 
Subject: Microsoft’s Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI, the 
Artificial Intelligence Visual Assistant from Be My Eyes
Reply-To: no-re...@bemyeyes.com

Read it online

Hi Alan,

We are excited to announce a new feature for Be My Eyes Specialized Help: 
Microsoft's Disability Answer Desk is now powered by Be My AI.

The introduction of Be My AI to Microsoft’s offering on Be My Eyes opens the 
door to a revolutionary new way to get immediate assistance through Specialized 
Help. To visit Microsoft’s profile, open the Be My Eyes app, and navigate to 
Specialized Help. Here you can select “Technical” and click on Microsoft to 
open their profile on Be My Eyes. You can now tap on the new “Chat with Be My 
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Blind users of Be My Eyes will always have the option to use traditional human 
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Whether you need to set up your new Microsoft account, reboot your laptop, or 
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Re: Apple news, crossword puzzles

2023-11-09 Thread William James

Hi Kelly and all,

I just got finished submitting a bug report on Feedback.  I was hoping 
VoiceOver support would be better in iOS 17.2 Beta 2, but it’s the same as Beta 
1.  Feel free to add to my report.  Vital info below.

FB13355076 (Lack of the ability to edit clues in Crosswords in News App)

Spread far and wide!  I do not know of another app or service that gave us the 
access we had in iOS 17.0 and iOS 17.1.

Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Nov 8, 2023, at 11:49 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> I have had a bit of success and also spoke to Apple support.
> 
> So far the best I can determine, you will have the best success by switching 
> this game into list-view and then swiping through the clues double tapping on 
> the one you want to enter text for. You will not get any indication that you 
> are editing that clue. Also, if you delete letters, they are not announced.
> 
> Kelly
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When I updated my iPhone, it came with a three month subscription to Apple 
>> news. Tonight I noticed they added crossword puzzles, but I’m wondering if 
>> anyone has figured out how to play these with voiceover?
>> 
>> When you play a game, if you tap on a button called list view, you can step 
>> through the different clues and hear how many blanks there are  but for 
>> example, I found no way to properly enter letters.
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Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-11-01 Thread William James

You get two new puzzles every day.  One is a mini puzzle that usually has five or six clues across and same for down.  The number of squares range from three to five.  You also have a regular puzzle like you would find elsewhere online.  The puzzles stay, so you can come back and solve them at your leisure.  You can also switch from your phone to your iPad and pick up your puzzle where you left off.  You need to tell your device you want to sync your progress.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Nov 1, 2023, at 10:45 AM, paekstr...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks.  Does it come with a preset number of puzzles, or are new ones supplied weekly or something?   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games That is correct.  Apple News Plus is where you can find the accessible crossword puzzles.  I believe you can get a trial for a month.  I recently got this iPad Air 5 so I got three months free.  If you are with Verizon, I think they may have some offerings for Apple’s subscription services.  Check with them.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the UniverseMy web site: https://www.turner42.com-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of paekstr...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle GamesDo you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to find it.Thanks,Pam-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle GamesHi Mark,I can answer your second question.VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so hopefully it will get fixed.I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and replace it with the letter you meant to type in.You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.Hope this helps.Sent from my iPad Air 5On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote: Hello Everyone, So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1: 1.Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song is played? 2.Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved? This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the plunge but for now ... Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs. All replies greatly appreciated. Mark  --The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003c01da0ac0%2460796ce0%24216c46a0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of

Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-31 Thread William James

That is correct.  Apple News Plus is where you can find the accessible 
crossword puzzles.  I believe you can get a trial for a month.  I recently got 
this iPad Air 5 so I got three months free.  If you are with Verizon, I think 
they may have some offerings for Apple’s subscription services.  Check with 
them.

Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 10:28 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> He mentioned News Plus, which is the Apple News S\paid subscription.
> I don't subscribe so am just basing that on the use of the name "News Plus."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> paekstr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding 
> Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games
> 
> Do you have a link for the accessible crossword puzzles?  I can't seem to 
> find it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Pam
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William James
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 12:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding 
> Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> I can answer your second question.
> 
> VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, 
> they worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
> hopefully it will get fixed.
> 
> I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier 
> than you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to 
> another by swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has 
> four letters, you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first 
> one lets you solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a 
> letter, You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it 
> and replace it with the letter you meant to type in.
> 
> You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
> than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> Sent from my iPad Air 5
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song
>> is played?
>> 
>> 2.
>> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were
>> you able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
>> 
>> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the
>> latest iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues
>> that have been reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the
>> plunge but for now ...
>> 
>> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

How are you getting along with 17?

Thanks for your remarks.

James B  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

James, 

For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS. 

Alan Lemly 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:
> 
> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
> accidently triggered Ciri.
> 
> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed. 
>  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she 
> thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
> 
> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
> of IOS 17.
> 
> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>> Pretty pointless.
>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
>> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
>> even if it works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
>> Schneider
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>> 
>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading 
>> back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is 
>> like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. 
>> He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but 
>> then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve 
>> this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

That's good to hear.

James B  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I find it interesting that so much misinformation accompanies each iOS release. 
Apple has not removed Hey Siri, you have the choice of using either, unless you 
go into the Siri settings and set it to just Hey Siri or turn it off 
completely. 
The statement at the end of the Siri setting says: iPhone will listen for 
“Siri” or “Hey Siri” at the beginning of requests. With certain headphones 
connected, “Hey Siri” is required.


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 12:02 PM, James Bentley  wrote:
> 
> Well.  I sure hope that just saying Ciri works way to heck better than just 
> saying Alexa to my Echo devices.
> 
> And, of course, you are right about eventually being forced to update for 
> several different reasons.
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> If I had a Dollar for every time I heard that whatever new version of iOS 
> apple released is the worst version ever I could go on a nice holiday.
> Yes, you can now say just "Siri, what time is it" and it works fine. But 
> since I have been using iOS 17 which has been since the first public beta in 
> early July, Siri has never been triggered accidently.
> And as far as never updating to iOS 17, that is a completely irrelavent 
> statement because even if you never update to iOS 17, eventually you need a 
> new phone so unless you buy an Android phone, whenevber you get a new phone 
> you get whatever iOS version is then the current one, maybe iOS 18 or 19 or 
> if your current phone still hangs in there for 3 years maybe it will be iOS 
> 20 and I doubt Apple will necessarily see a reason to restrict Siri to "Hey 
> Siri" again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
> Bentley
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
> accidently triggered Ciri.
> 
> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed. 
>  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she 
> thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
> 
> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
> of IOS 17.
> 
> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>> Pretty pointless.
>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
>> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
>> even if it works.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
>> Schneider
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Siri a

RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Well.  I sure hope that just saying Ciri works way to heck better than just 
saying Alexa to my Echo devices.

And, of course, you are right about eventually being forced to update for 
several different reasons.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

If I had a Dollar for every time I heard that whatever new version of iOS apple 
released is the worst version ever I could go on a nice holiday.
Yes, you can now say just "Siri, what time is it" and it works fine. But since 
I have been using iOS 17 which has been since the first public beta in early 
July, Siri has never been triggered accidently.
And as far as never updating to iOS 17, that is a completely irrelavent 
statement because even if you never update to iOS 17, eventually you need a new 
phone so unless you buy an Android phone, whenevber you get a new phone you get 
whatever iOS version is then the current one, maybe iOS 18 or 19 or if your 
current phone still hangs in there for 3 years maybe it will be iOS 20 and I 
doubt Apple will necessarily see a reason to restrict Siri to "Hey Siri" again.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
> Pretty pointless.
> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
> even if it works.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
> Schneider
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading 
> back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like 
> Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He 
> thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then 
> went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this 
> problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
accidently triggered Ciri.

All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I always 
have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never noticed.  Alexa 
sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because she thought she 
heard the wake word followed by a request.

If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any version 
of IOS 17.

Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.

Regards,

James B  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
> Pretty pointless.
> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, then 
> maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around at best 
> even if it works.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynn 
> Schneider
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
> 
> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading 
> back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like 
> Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He 
> thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then 
> went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this 
> problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: A Question for those who have updated to iOS 17.1: Regarding Apple Music Song Lyrics and the new News Plus Crossword Puzzle Games

2023-10-30 Thread William James

Hi Mark,

I can answer your second question.

VoiceOver works really well with the crossword puzzles.  At least in 17.1, they 
worked really good.  I have filed a bug report with iOS 17.2 already so 
hopefully it will get fixed.

I recommend choosing list view.  This way you can get at the clues easier than 
you can in grid view.  VoiceOver will let you go from one space to another by 
swiping to the right.  For example, if you have a clue that has four letters, 
you will actually see five spaces instead of four.  The first one lets you 
solve the word by typing it in.  If you need to correct a letter, 
You can swipe to that letter you want to correct and double tap on it and 
replace it with the letter you meant to type in.

You have crossword mini and a full crossword.  The New York Times is cheaper 
than Apple News Plus, but last I checked, it was not accessible.

Hope this helps.
Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:33 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> So, to those of you who have updated to 17.1:
> 
> 1.
> Does VoiceOver now automatically read the lyrics to a song as the song is
> played?
> 
> 2.
> Has anyone played the new News Plus crossword puzzle and, if so, were you
> able to make any sense of how the puzzle is solved?
> 
> This is the first time, in many years, that I want to update to the latest
> iOS but am holding off do so because of the continuing issues that have been
> reported.  At some point, I will just have to take the plunge but for now
> ...
> 
> Perhaps 17.2 will fix some VO bugs.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?

2023-10-19 Thread William James

I have an iPhone from T-Mobile.  Yes, it is locked but what I’ve done is use a 
service called Digits.  It is from T-Mobile and costs ten bucks a month.  I use 
this for my mobile number for my job.  I also use it to give out to those who I 
don’t want having my private number.

Sent from my iPad Air 5

> On Oct 19, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My phone was locked with AT, because of a deal that they offered on my 
> iPhone 14 Pro.
> 
> So, when I moved to a more rural area, and AT did not provide adequate 
> coverage, I had to change to Verizon, which involved:
> 
> 1. Paying off my 14 Pro.
> 2. Getting AT to unlock my phone.
> 3. Getting AT to give my phone number clearance for porting to Verizon.
> 
> It took about 24 to 48 hours for each step to be cleared, but I now have 
> Verizon with adequate coverage and good quality phone calls, which I did not 
> have here with AT
> 
> I will say that AT was very cooperative.
> 
> I got a text from Visa, wanting to make sure it was a valid withdrawal to pay 
> off the phone, and they asked three security questions:
> 
> Give my birth date in two digits.
> 
> Give the middle two digits of my Social Security Number
> 
> I forget the third security question, but I texted them all back 
> satisfactorily.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?
> 
> Hello Kathy,
> 
> If you have a phone which is locked to AT then you will not be able to have 
> a second SIM in the phone from a different provider.
> I am in Canada, but do carriers in the United States even still lock phones 
> these days?
> Here in Canada that has been illegal for some years now and it's really a 
> mute point since a locked phone does nothing to force you to stay with one 
> carrier; contracts do that. If you buy an iPhone for example from AT and 
> you have a contract in place where you pay a certain amount each months to 
> pay off the phone, then you can't really leave that obligation whether the 
> phone is locked or not unless you paid out whatever balance is remaining.
> I also understood that even if you are in a contract of some sort in the past 
> and you had your phone for a certain amount of time, like 3 or 6 months, you 
> could then request for the phone to be unlocked. Locking phones is the most 
> ridiculous thing a carrier can do if they in fact still do it given how many 
> people want to travel these days and potentially use a SIM from a provider in 
> a different country for a few weeks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Brandt
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: M. Taylor 
> Subject: Re: Question: Is Anyone Using two eSIM Cards in an iPhone?
> 
> I had asked yesterday: does the phone have to be unlocked in order for you to 
> use two cards like that?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am currently using 2 ESims on my iPhone 14.
>> 
>> You can have them both active at once. They are from 2 different providers. 
>> You can program them both to ring differently and play different message 
>> alert tones. I can see both connections at the top.
>> 
>> It is working very well.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Cory Jackson
>> 
>> 
 On 10/18/2023 1:21 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone currently using two eSIM cards on an iPhone?  You know,
>>> using one telephone number as a primary and a second number as a secondary 
>>> number?
>>> 
>>> If so, how is that working for you?
>>> 
>>> Also, If you do have 2 eSIM cards currently installed, are they from
>>> different wireless providers?
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: noticed when I was recording something, phone call ringer didn't come through speaker.

2023-10-18 Thread James Bentley

I wonder if the phone can be set to vibrate for incoming calls while in record 
mode. 

Also, I would be very interested in being able to record phone calls.  That 
would come in handy if I could record phone numbers and addresses, directions  
etc during a call.

James B   

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Judd
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: noticed when I was recording something, phone call ringer didn't come 
through speaker.

Hi all,

Tonight, I was recording something, and I received a phone call, but I 
didn't hear the ring tone come through the speaker.
I tried just press record, and I also tried audio memos, but got the 
same result.
I would like to record things, and if I get a call, have the ring tone 
come through.  I noticed that in a previous update, just press record 
talked about phone calls not intrupting recordings.
Any help would be apppreciated.  If anyone still knows of a recording 
app that works, let me know.
Chris

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Re: Question re turning off voice over key clicks

2023-10-16 Thread William James

You will need to go to settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Sounds and 
Haptics.  You will want to turn off sounds from there and you should be good to 
go.



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Hi everyone:



This evening I reset all settings on my IPhone, I haven’t done  that in many 
years as I usually backed up my device and restored it to the new one. SO now I 
can’t  seem to figure out how to turn off the voiceover keyboard clicks and 
other voiceover clicks like when moving around the screen. ?? I can’t seem to 
find where to make these changes.



Thanks for your help



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Re: Please tell me how I put pictures in the main body of the email.

2023-09-28 Thread William James

Sorry i’m late to the party on this one.You simply tripple tap in the body of the e-mail to insert pictures, attachments, and other stuff in an e-mail message.  Think of it as right-clicking an e-mail to add stuff.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Sep 21, 2023, at 12:10 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






that was possible in Outlook express. I don't know 
if Outlook allows the insert iof pictures 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jenny Bomareto 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 8:21 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Please tell me how I put 
  pictures in the main body of the email.
  Yes sir that’s what I’ve done. However, when I sent them the 
  way, you explained, the person that I sent them to said that the pictures I 
  sent could not be opened in the attachments, that’s why they were wanting it 
  in the main body of the email. Referring to like say I was writing a new email 
  when you go past subject than the picture would be. in that field.
  
  Thanks for reading regarding this 
  matter.Jenny Bomareto
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Sep 21, 2023, at 10:05 AM, John Panarese 
 wrote:
  
    I’m not sure what you are asking here. If the 
photos are in a text message, double tap on each image. There will be a 
Share option on the next screen. Choose, Mail, from there to attach the 
photo to an email message. This is, if I am understanding you correctly.


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  FYI, see below. This is regarding known how I put pictures in the 
  main body of an email.
  
  Thanks for reading regarding this 
  matter.Jenny Bomareto
  Sent from my 
  iPhone
  Begin forwarded message:
  
From: Jenny Bomareto 
Date: September 
20, 2023 at 9:22:55 AM EDTTo: 
viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Please tell me how I put 
pictures in the main body of the email.
  
The two pictures I want to send to someone there in the 
same text message, two different  pictures.

Thanks for reading regarding this 
matter.Jenny Bomareto
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RE: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

2023-09-23 Thread James Bentley

Since you are now down to acts of desperation.  Can the I Phone’s native camera 
app be deleted and then installed again.  I’m  wondering if this has any chance 
of getting you going with VD?

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

 

Oh, yes, you're right.  I was looking at the VDScan settings last night 
thinking it had to be something to do with the camera and I didn't see camera 
listed any where.  

 

I even tried opening the camera first and then opening VDScan but no luck.

 

 

 

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com> 

On 9/23/2023 11:48 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Thanks Lisa,

One of the strange symptoms is that in the settings/VDScan, the camera is not 
mentioned.  Every other app that uses the camera has a allow X app to use the 
camera button.  It used to.

But for some of us, that is gone.

I even tested the scanner in Voice Dream Reader and it works fine.  It just 
cannot do all that VDScan can do.

I've only heard from one other person with this issue.  So, that makes three of 
us so far.

 

Time will tell.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: VDScan and iOS 17 issues

 

Hi, Richard.

 

Sadly, yes.  I wrote to Winston on Thursday morning and he got back to me this 
morning.  Neither his update nor the 17.0.1 update has corrected the issue.  VO 
tells me the app is opening, but it doesn't.  However, the app is in the app 
switcher.

 

I've tried several hard resets and I've completely removed and re-downloaded 
the app.

 

It's like the app isn't completely opening or something.

 

Winston asked me if I had any odd settings tweaked on my phone and I do not, 
but I'm not sure what I should be looking for..

 

I hope that enough of us with this issue can help him find a solution.  I'm 
also happy to see he's being so responsive.

 

Lisa Belville
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On 9/23/2023 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Greetings,

Has anyone had problems using VDScan after updating to iOS 17 or 17.0.1?

On my 13 pro, it won't open.

Winston Chen cannot duplicate this on two different devices.

So, checking to see if others are having issues.

For me, I try launching the app, I end up back on the main screen, but VDScan 
shows up in the app switcher.

Checking the settings, it says nothing about camera access.

I have deleted and reinstalled the app several times, and reset network 
settings.

I'm not ready to reset all settings as that is a royal pain in the ….

 

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Re: Deleting email in Outlook app

2023-09-23 Thread William James

On both my iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPad Air 5, I get the same behavior you do 
from Outlook.  I have already made a suggestion that we have an option to turn 
off this notification.  Hints are also off.  Outlook is the same version on 
both devices.  The os is the same.  Hopefully Microsoft will give us the 
opportunity to turn off that feature or it’s gonna drive me to drink!


Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Kelly 
Ford 
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 12:32:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Deleting email in Outlook app

Hi,

So this is interesting. Using Microsoft outlook email app on my iPhone X, when 
I delete a message, I hear immediately message deleted a short pause, and then 
the next message to get focus in the message list starts to read.


On the iPhone 15 I have the same experience but shortly after the new message 
to gain focused starts to read, I am interrupted by another message, saying 
something about message deleted, shake to undo. It consistently interrupts the 
reading of the new message with focus.

Both phones are running the latest release of iOS 17.

As far as I know, all voice settings are the same on both phones.

Kelly



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Re: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

2023-09-23 Thread William James

If you have the iPad with no home button, you turn it off by pressing the power 
button and volume up button at the same time and hold them down until you hear 
the iPad say Power Off.  Let go and choose power off on the screen.  To turn it 
back on, hold down the power button for five seconds.

Hope this helps.


Get Outlook for iOS

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: bug to shut-down ipad with physical keys

Hi folks

Ios17.01 volume-up+down followed by the power or side key does nolonger
work; it simply locks the screen or in case of long press bring up siri.
Davy

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RE: Be my eyes new service

2023-09-21 Thread James Bentley

IMO, judgements like soulful should not be comeing out of a machine.

Where is this going any way.

Kind of scarry.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be my eyes new service

I don't see the problem either. If someone doesn't like the descriptions 
they're getting out of a service then they just don't need to use it. They can 
find another service that provides descriptions more to they're liking.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: realman02 via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be my eyes new service

The problem is that a non-human thing, Open AI, is making subjective judgments 
about people and objects in pictures and there's no way to query the AI why it 
came up with that judgement. Plus I want to make my won judgements and don't 
want to be influenced by a machine. All I'm saying is that we need to think 
carefully whether we really want Be My Eyes to be giving us these judgments or 
having them reserved for human interactions.
I realize this is veering off topic so won't be replying anymore.
Happy listing!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 9:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be my eyes new service

I don't see the problem.

On 9/21/23, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:
> to you, she is, appropriately, loveable. But to Open AI?
>
> Really think about whether you want Be My Eyes to be giving value
> judgments and subjective judgments to its descriptions.
>
>
>
> John
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kellie
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be my eyes new service
>
>
>
> I guess to each their own. I find nothing wrong with the descriptions.
> I have the intellect to know that it is simply artificial intelligence
> and I can make up my own mind if it really means they’re happy or sad,
> etc. I am very happy with the fact that I’m getting detailed
> descriptions, and it makes me feel like I can see again. But I
> understand that everybody approaches us differently.
>
> Kellie and my lovable Lady J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 PM, realman02 via VIPhone
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me
> something is “adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description.
>
> Also. “Soulful, curious, etc” are extremely troubling. This is how I
> want my AI to handle descriptions of people, animals and things:
>
>
>
>
>
> The picture shows two dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has dark gray
> tiles and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting. On the
> left, there is a black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has brown eyes
> and is wearing a collar with a tag. On the right, there is a German
> Shepherd puppy. It has a black coat with tan markings on its legs and
> face. The puppy has bright eyes and floppy ears. It is also wearing a
> collar with a tag. They are sitting next to each other and seem to be
> in a kitchen, as there is a glimpse of a cabinet and an oven in the
> background
>
> Thanks  John Riehl
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroupscom  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alison May
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 6:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Be my eyes new service
>
>
>
> I asked if this app could also describe photos on my iPhone and
> followed the directions given. I am absolutely amazed. Below is a description 
> of the day.
> My current guide dog met his puppy raiser and her new pup. The details
> really bring the picture alive.
>
>
>
> The picture shows two adorable dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has
> dark gray tiles and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting.
> On the left, there is a black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has
> soulful brown eyes and is wearing a collar with a tag. On the right,
> there is a German Shepherd puppy. It has a black coat with tan
> markings on its legs and face. The puppy has bright, curious eyes and
> floppy ears. It is also wearing a collar with a tag. They are sitting
> next to each other and seem to be in a kitchen, as there is a glimpse
> of a cabinet and an oven in the background
>
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
>
> 0777 315 8181
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21 Sep 2023, at 10:17 pm, Feliciano Godoy
> mailto:t

RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

I am getting in to the middle of this but try doing a 2 finger swipe up and 
very quickly start tapping your volume up buttton to see if you can turn up the 
voice over volume.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Pinder
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE

 

Hi All

 

Thanks for your replies. I've tried everything suggested and still no joy even 
after trying a reset.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

 

On Wed, 20 Sept 2023, 21:18 Feliciano Godoy, mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Is someone able to help you manually turn off voiceover and re-enable it? I 
would try that, if that doesn't work, I would reset your iPhone settings,. so 
if you go to settings, general Transfer or Reset iPhone then choose reset. 

*** do not reset all content and  settings as this will wipe your entire phone.

Feliciano 

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Hi All 

 

I've updated my iPhone to IOS17 and I can no longer get it to speak. It plays 
the Voiceover sounds but no voice. Im using my husband's Android Samsung S10 
phone and I cant get it to read everything properly like I could on the Iphone? 
Does anyone have any suggestions? 

Thanks a lot.

 

Best wishes

 

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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

I'm on quite a few list that deal with I Phones

My in box is over flowing with people who are having problems with IOS 17.  It 
looks like Apple has just decided to deal with accessibility problems as an 
after thought.

Spend enough R and D to Take care of the main stream consumers and let the 
visually impaired discover and report the problems related to blind users.  
This method saves R and D money.

As we report problems, Apple will gradually fix most of the issues.  But, by 
the time that happens, IOS 18 will be out and we get to start all over again.

James B  

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Since I wrote that last message, I discovered yet another problem:

I hear absolutely nothing when I hold in the Side button. Not a very 
quiet tone, nothing at all. I turned the phone up and held it up to my 
ear when I held in the Side button and it doesn't play anything. I still 
hear the traditional tone when I let go of the Side button, but nothing 
when I press and hold it.

Evan

On 9/20/2023 12:58 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with 
> several quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
> Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not
> just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice
> changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the
> functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of
> the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.
>
> I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until
> things are ironed out more.
>
> Evan
>
>
> On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
>> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
>> come out?
>>
>> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for 
>> now.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
>> Belville
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
>> To: V I Phone 
>> Cc: iDevices 
>> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>>
>> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
>> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
>> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
>> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
>> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
>> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>>
>>
>> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
>> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>>
>>
>> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
>> and reinstall the BARD app.
>>
>>
>> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>
>>
>>

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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Did you or any one try deleting the Bard app and then installing it again?

Good luck,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Well, normally, I don't upgrade so soon, but I read over the list of 
bugs and none of them seem to be ones that would impact me. The tone 
adjustment issue isn't a deal breaker, but I just so happened to start 
an older book that was digitized from a worn out analog copy and really 
needed to clarify the narration as much as possible.  Apparently no one 
needed to do this during the beta process, or there just aren't that 
many VO users testing iOS software.  I know I won't do it because I only 
have one iPhone and no other Apple products.

Looks like an upgrade to the BARD app is in order.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

On 9/20/2023 11:48 AM, James Bentley wrote:
> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
> come out?
>
> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.
>
> Good luck,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Cc: iDevices 
> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>
>
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>
>
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
> and reinstall the BARD app.
>
>
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>
>
>

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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

There seem to be many problems with IOS 17.  I bet Apple comes out with several 
quick updates pretty soon to start ironing out the bugs.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

James, I know what you mean. I now think I should have waited. It's not 
just the bug in the BARD app. I cannot get any of those per voice 
changes to work in my iPhone 12 either. At least I still have all the 
functionality of the Eloquence I had in ioS 16, but I don't get any of 
the new functionality I'm supposed to get with iOS 17.

I will not be so quick to update next time. I will wait for a bit until 
things are ironed out more.

Evan

On 9/20/2023 12:48 PM, James Bentley wrote:
> Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
> come out?
>
> Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.
>
> Good luck,
>
> James B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
> Belville
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
> To: V I Phone 
> Cc: iDevices 
> Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade
>
> Hi, all.
>
>
> I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS
> 17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.
> Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu
> and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on
> three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed
> button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.
>
>
> Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings
> tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.
>
>
> I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete
> and reinstall the BARD app.
>
>
> Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?
>
>
>

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RE: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Why not let others be the guinea pig when updates to a new operating system 
come out?

Deleting the app and installing it again sounds like your only option for now.

Good luck,

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lisa 
Belville
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 11:02 AM
To: V I Phone 
Cc: iDevices 
Subject: Possible Bug in BARD app since iOS 17 Upgrade

Hi, all.


I'm using iPhone 14 Pro and BARD Mobile 2.2.1.  Since upgrading to iOS 
17 I cannot adjust the tone of a book from within the book itself.  
Normally, double tapping on the speed button will bring up the tone menu 
and allow the tone to be adjusted.  However, I've tried doing this on 
three separate books and nothing happens when I double tap on the speed 
button, though I'm able to adjust the speed in the usual way.


Right now, the only way I can adjust the tone is to go to the settings 
tab, then audio settings and adjust the tone from there.


I've tried rebooting my phone, but no joy.  My next step is to delete 
and reinstall the BARD app.


Am I missing something?  Has anyone else had this issue?



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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

2023-09-17 Thread William James

It was professional in its response.  Yeah, true, I was nasty with it but it’s 
AI so it has no feelings.  Hahaha!  I’m normally a nice guy but sometimes I’m 
not and it shows as I age.


Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of CHELA 
Robles 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 7:11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what 
its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:



Ugg.

I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed 
and re-opened the app and fictures worked.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William 
James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?



There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.





I’ll give you an example.



I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!



Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?



Hello,



There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.



The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.



I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!



Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!



Take a look at:







Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use 
Cases<https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/introducing-be-my-eyes-virtual-volunteer-demonstration-some-game-changing-real-world-use>

applevis.com<https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/introducing-be-my-eyes-virtual-volunteer-demonstration-some-game-changing-real-world-use>

<https://www.applevis.com/podcasts/introducing-be-my-eyes-virtual-volunteer-demonstration-some-game-changing-real-world-use>





Malcolm Parfitt



On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)



On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles 
mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:



I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.



Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.

supp...@bemyeyes.com<mailto:supp...@bemyeyes.com>



On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader 
mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:



I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think 
a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my 
eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think 
maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're 
letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as 
you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by 
doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away 
and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have 
removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all 
be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people 
it's very disrespectful and discriminatory.

Best regards.

Jerry Mader



On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr 
mailto:claudas...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi everyo

Re: Be my AI and pictures?

2023-09-16 Thread William James

There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.


I’ll give you an example.

I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Malcolm 
Parfitt 
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

Hello,

There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.

The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.

I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!

Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!

Take a look at:




Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use 
Cases
applevis.com
[logo64x64.ico]

Malcolm Parfitt

On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner  wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that.


Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.
supp...@bemyeyes.com

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader  wrote:

I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think 
a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my 
eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think 
maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're 
letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as 
you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by 
doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away 
and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have 
removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all 
be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people 
it's very disrespectful and discriminatory.
Best regards.
Jerry Mader

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:

Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing 
pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying that the 
picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a placeholder 
image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it may contain faces 
or people." The text is centered and the background is light grey.
This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as be 
my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it started 
doing this?
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RE: siri sucks.

2023-08-29 Thread James Bentley

Ciri understands the command, "new line"

James B  

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 6:46 AM
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Subject: Re: siri sucks.

I use dictation within apps sometimes.  But that involves getting into 
the app and it's way easier sometimes just to invoke siri and go.

Marda

On 8/29/2023 4:34 AM, dudleym via VIPhone wrote:
>
> Why use siri?
> When I'm dictateing or replying to messages I focus into the text box 
> and two finger double tap to start dictation, and two finger double 
> tap to stop dictation. Works a treat for me. and you can say commands 
> that I don't think siri understands such as n'new line' 'space' etc 
> the last time i tried these with siri then siri put the commands into 
> the text as words
>
> Martin
> Jenny Bomareto recently said:-
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use 
>> siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in 
>> their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either. This is 
>> getting very irritating.
>>
>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>
>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>> Jenny Bomareto
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: The second time around on Amazon can be more expensive.

2023-08-11 Thread James Bentley

Since your point is made, can you please stop?

 

James B  

 

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Subject: Re: The second time around on Amazon can be more expensive.

 

I’m not accusing him. it’s a fact, so see how it breeds disagreements? my point 
is made.





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You say you want to keep political opinions off of this list out of one side  
of your mouth but, out of the other side of your mouth, you are accusing our 
last President of being the worst President in American history.

 

You can’t have it both ways.

 

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RE: The second time around on Amazon can be more expensive.

2023-08-11 Thread James Bentley

You say you want to keep political opinions off of this list out of one side  
of your mouth but, out of the other side of your mouth, you are accusing our 
last President of being the worst President in American history.

 

You can’t have it both ways.

 

James B  

 

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 4:52 AM
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Subject: Re: The second time around on Amazon can be more expensive.

 

everyone thinks america is the center of the universe, and blame everything on 
the fact a party they don’t like is in the white house. you want to talk no 
good presidents, I wouldn’t go there after the worst president in american 
history incited an inserection on the white house, so let’s keep politics off 
this list.





On Aug 11, 2023, at 2:38 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

If it is because of the American President then why is the same inflation 
happening in Canada, the UK, Germany, France and… Oh wait, I should just stop 
listing countries as it's happening all over the world. And it has happened 
before even under Republican presidents and it will happen again. 

 

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Jenny Bomareto
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Subject: The second time around on Amazon can be more expensive.

 

That’s how grams used to buy when she was buying just like you explained 
Richard.

 

Now, of course, as we know about inflation. It’s because of our no good 
president.

 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: The Second Time Around can be More Expensive on Amazon

2023-08-10 Thread James Bentley

Two years ago, the model st55 was on sale for $50.00.  Its $110.00 now and 
Amazon probably beats every one else by at least 20 bucks.

If you buy, be sure to get the model st55 because it has buttons that a blind 
person can use in case the internet is down.  The more expensive model is a 
flat touch screen that no blind person can ever use.

Here's an Amazon  link for the model st55 with buttons.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NB1OB0I/?_encoding=UTF8_rd_plhdr=t=16b53869f5473df1c2e96eaa091b5ae3_cr_id=1865675060401=1691688253=1-1-9e67e56a-6f64-441f-a281-df67fc737124_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0_bkgd_rd_w=W7j9b=amzn1.sym.cd95889f-432f-43a7-8ec8-833616493f4a%3Aamzn1.sym.cd95889f-432f-43a7-8ec8-833616493f4a_rd_p=cd95889f-432f-43a7-8ec8-833616493f4a_rd_r=3MKXEH4B5BSR0AR39WZG_rd_wg=UYNIc_rd_r=fa99f242-d855-4302-905d-b5c4cfe9d361=1
 

James B  

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Subject: FYI: The Second Time Around can be More Expensive on Amazon

Hello Everyone,

After recently recommending the Emerson Sensi thermostat that I use for my
home via Home Kit, not knowing if Emerson is still making the model and
knowing how often products with hardware buttons can be discontinued, I
decided to purchase a second (backup) unit, just in case.

Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the price of the model had
increased by $25 since January of this year.

Just to confirm, I had a friend put the same model in her Amazon cart, on 2
different devices and the price was the same, $25 more than I originally
paid.

My point, if you like a product from Amazon and you think you may want to
purchase a second unit, do so sooner, rather than later, because the second
time around can be more expensive on Amazon.

Mark


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RE: Can I merge my I phone contacts

2023-08-07 Thread James Bentley

Thank you Bill and Robert.

 

Your help is awesome.  Now, even my voice memos show up on both of my I phones 
as well as a whole lot of other stuff.

 

I bet I never learn every thing my smart devices will do but this one is a 
major convenience.

 

James B

 

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Gallik
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 4:16 AM
To: viPhone  
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Hey James,

 

Check out the “Airplay & Handoff” dialog in Settings/General, if you have the 
same Apple ID for both phones and ensure that “Handoff” is enabled on both 
phones the contacts (and other app data) will be synced such that making 
changes on one phone will register identically on the other iPhone.

 

NOTE: I have “Handoff” enabled on both my iPhones as well as my Mac mini, 
making edits or additions in Contacts, Notes, e-mail and other apps on any one 
of these devices magically appear on the other 2 iDevices.


-Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin ☺️

 

 





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Hi everyone,

 

I have 2 I Phones.  I would like very much to know if I can merge the contacts 
so that both phones have exactly the same contact list.

 

I appreciate any suggestions.

 

James B  

 

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Can I merge my I phone contacts

2023-08-07 Thread James Bentley

Hi everyone,

 

I have 2 I Phones.  I would like very much to know if I can merge the
contacts so that both phones have exactly the same contact list.

 

I appreciate any suggestions.

 

James B  

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RE: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

2023-07-28 Thread James Bentley

What can you do with this?

 

Does it work with windows 10?

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

 

Wow! It really does work I just tested it out! It didn’t take long to set it up 
either.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 28, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Thanks William,

That is the app I downloaded.

I will try again and see if it works…

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

 

Richard, here you are sir!

 






 <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/link-to-windows/id6443686328> 

 <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/link-to-windows/id6443686328> 

 

 <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/link-to-windows/id6443686328> Link to Windows

 <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/link-to-windows/id6443686328> Link your phone 
and PC

 

 

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max






On Jul 28, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Well, according to a page from Microsoft, the iOS app is supposed to now be 
called "Microsoft Phone Link.

However, the only app I can find in the iOS app store is Link to Windows.  When 
I tried setting it up, it told me some app was preventing me from making calls 
on my Android device…

 

I have nothing Android in my house.

 

Do you have a link to the correct app, and or some hints about getting it set 
up?

My computer shows that I have connected to my phone over Bluetooth…

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

 

You need the "PhoneLink" app on a Windows 11 PC and the "Link to Windows" app 
on your iPhone.

PhoneLink should already be on your computer if it's updated to the latest 
Windows 11 version and Link to Windows of course has to be downloaded from the 
App Store on your iPhone, it does not work with an iPad (or at least not yet).

Here is one article, you find many if you Google it:

 

Phone Link for iOS is now rolling out to all Windows 11 customers 
<https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2023/04/26/phone-link-for-ios-is-now-rolling-out-to-all-windows-11-customers/>
 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

 

OK, I suppose I could look for this on the web, but seems there’s a couple of 
folks out here who know all about this PhoneLink.

 

 

So is this software that Goetz andSo is this software that gets installed on 
the iPhone or the Windows computer? Or, is there a version on both systems to 
allow for a handshake?

 

I may as well ask, where can I read up on this?  

- Sent from Bill's iPhone 8 (iOS 16.6) via Google Mail

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Re: NLS E-reader

2023-07-25 Thread William James

I just put that I am in NC and we are still waiting on ours.  You could tell a white lie if you want, who’s gonna know?Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 23, 2023, at 7:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:




I'm trying to join the group and I ran into 
this:
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do you wanwhy 
do you want to 
join the 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Donna 
  Casteen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2023 10:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: NLS E-reader
  
  
  Robert, I have the email address to 2 people who work with NLS. 
  I'll ask them & see if I can get you an answer. Are you on Facebook? There 
  is a group on Facebook for the NLS braille E-Reader. The link to the group is 
  below, just in case.
  
  
  
  
  


  

  
  

  
  NLS braille E reader users
  facebook.com

  
  Donna
  
  
  
 



does anyone know of a email list for the 
E-reader? I tried going to NLS' site and joining theirs but I have yet to 
receive a response after two weeks.
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Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-11 Thread William James

Hi Penny,You swipe with one finger up or down to the channel you want.  Once you have landed on the one you want, make VoiceOver’s focus be on something else like help, menu, ETC.  When you double tap the screen, your channel won’t change.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 11, 2023, at 8:37 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:I like Seeing AI when i can get it to work, but, often when i choose a channel with a double tap on a button whose label is exactly what i want, it switches immediately to a different channel. What m i doing wrong? If i tap on Short Text, how can i keep it from switching immediately to People? Thanks for your advice! Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 11, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I love it as well! It's a wonderful app! EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jul 11, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I finally did get it, and boy do I like it! -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc WrightSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Seeing AI.they are probably having the same problem I had. though the light detector was checked in settings it wasn't showing in the list. I had to DT it again and it appeared.- Original Message -From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 11:53 PMSubject: RE: Seeing AI.What are all the channels  you do have?-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn ArnoldSent: Monday, July 10, 2023 6:01 PMTo: viPhone Subject: Seeing AI.Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks for any help.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/09d501d9b393%2422ede240%2468c9a6c0%24%40gmail.com.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656CC3A04DFC0B24AE93FD1C731A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011b01d9b3f7%2471d79c70%247001a8c0%40HPDesktop.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list

Re: Seeing AI.

2023-07-10 Thread William James

On my phone, Seeing AI has Light between handwriting and World Preview.  You 
use one finger to swipe up through the various channels of Seeing AI.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jul 10, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Tonight, I tried finding Light Detector, and could not find
> it. I haven't used it, and now that I think about it, I
> think I'll try to see if there still is a video, where I can
> read about it. But, do any of you know just how I find
> stuff? I tried swiping up in Channel and kind of had an
> uncertain time of it and did not find Light Detector. Thanks
> for any help.
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Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

2023-06-10 Thread William James

It depends on how you have typing set up.  I have mine set to touch typing.  
This means when I find a letter or number, I lift my finger and the symbol is 
entered.  If you have typing set to standard, you have to double-tap the symbol.

I would make sure the phone is set to full screen.  This should eleviate your 
issue.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You have to double tap on the numbers you hit for the extension you need.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Are you saying that just hitting the number once is not enough?
> 
> I don't think I've double tapped.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
> Moisio
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Hello
> 
> Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?
> 
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>> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
>> From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
>> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
>> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not 
>> showing. If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, 
>> still nothing happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Soundscape back soon

2023-05-29 Thread William James

Testflight link or a recording please!



Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On May 29, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I am the source! I already downloaded the bettaapp from the developers. 
> Sounds good?
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 29 mai 2023 à 12:07, Richard Turner  a écrit 
>> :
>> 
>> I some how missed the first message in this thread from Lyne stating 
>> SoundScape could be back in July.  My question is, and this is always my 
>> question with statements like this, what is the source for saying it will be 
>> back?
>> 
>> Without a reliable source, this is just a useless rumor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
>> Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2023 8:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Soundscape back soon
>> 
>> Best of luck, but I'll believe it when I see it:
>> 
>> - Not all of the project has been opensourced, so the maintainer will either 
>> have to release an incomplete offering or handle all the fun politics around 
>> integrating a new data provider to patch up the gaps.
>> - As supplied, the infrastructure can't be spun up without modification.
>> - If the maintainer sticks with Azure or some other cloud provider I reckon 
>> you're easily looking at mid 4 figures a year, just on hosting the backend.
>> 
>> I think part of the problem here is that (in the UK at least) there really 
>> aren't that many blindness organizations big enough to take on the 
>> commitment of maintaining something like this, let alone that have the 
>> knowledge to do it properly. Obviously one solution to this is to just buy 
>> the skills in, but just to spin up a small iOS dev team you'd be looking at 
>> £300-350K in salary a year, not including all the additional costs of 
>> employing them. Such a shame.
>> 
 On 5/29/23, Lyne  wrote:
>>> Hello group,
>>> 
>>> If things go well, Soundscape should be back in AppStore around July.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lyne
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Re: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS VoiceOver Accessible?

2023-05-03 Thread William James

Give the Xtra channels a go.  Classic Rock Barbecue is a favorite of mine, 
especially when smoking ribs for more than six hours.



Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On May 3, 2023, at 10:19 PM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:
> 
> Totally accessible. No dramas my end.
> 
> Marco
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2023 9:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is The Sirius XM App for iOS VoiceOver Accessible?
> 
> Yes, totally accessible…
> 
> Sent from my IPhone.
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:14 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Is the Sirius XM app for iOS currently VoiceOver accessible?  
>> 
>> I was thinking about subscribing to the service but then remembered 
>> that there may be problems so wanted to do a  quick gravity check, 
>> here before taking the plunge.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this one is a joke.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado  wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Fantastical did this a couple years ago and a lot of people were highly pissed about that choice they made.  Of course, they are mainly for the sighted market so they’re fine.  Voice Dream is a mixed market with blind and dyslexics, so it remains to be seen how this will go.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado  wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c501d9779e%24ee04a440%24ca0decc0%24%40myself.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the

Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

I saw it on AppleVis.  It came straight from Voice Dream Support.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Penny, and anyone else who have stated that current owners will not have to pay for the subscription, could you say what your source is? I've seen no official information yet. I have reached out to the company that bought the app, but have not heard yet. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:If you already own the Voice Dream Reader app, you won’t have to pay for an annual subscription. Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? Also, how much will it be?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Hi Leo, et al.I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.  I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired. He has given me permission to share the below information.Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app. Here is what Winston said:" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group.  The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to do it myself before the acquisition. On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company named Opus Noma. There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal issue, I have not been able to announce it. More from me about this soon..." An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  Be patient.And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases. HTH, Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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Re: Pit boss grilling app

I’m the guy who did the burgers sizzling on the grill back in 06 on Cool Blind Tech when Larry Schutchin Had it.  (Spelling may be fubarred).  I might do some podcasts talking about grilling and my techniques.  Stay tuned!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 5:56 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:Beer and tunes are an essential part of smoking and grilling.  Chris Judge From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Pit boss grilling app I use the Weber Smart Connect Hub.  You get an ambient probe for measuring your grill’s temperature and a meat probe.  I have a spare one from an iGrill I got a few years ago.  I also use a Weber Kettle 22 inch.  I’ve smoked plenty of ribs, chicken, pork butts, and other meats on there.  Oh yeah, and plenty of beer and tunes! Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 12:21 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Chris, I found the messaging question that you had brought up. I didn't find a come pleat thread. But here I believe is the message that you are speaking of. And I believe that these archives are public. So you don't have to be a member to read them. Re: Smokergroups.io  On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:14 PM,   wrote: I recall about a year ago we had a discussion about smokers on the blind handyman list. I can’t remember the exact issue but I seem to remember a user having issues with the app, and when they called pit boss customer support the support was so atrocious that they ended up returning the pit boss grill and getting a Treger. I yeard the treger app was ok but I haven’t used it personally. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Sunday, April 23, 2023 5:08 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Pit boss grilling app Hello Kayla, I was going to tell you that Pit Boss uses the same app as Louisiana Grills and that app is called "Smoke It". You may or may not know that both Pit Boss and Louisiana Grill are brands owned by the same company, Danson LLC.I sell Louisiana Grill at my retail store and personally own a Founders Series 1200 and the app can be used, but it's not great and I had to have sighted help at first because sometimes Voiceover reads stuff in the app which visually is not there so you sort of have to know what you can tap and how to use it.I was told by my Canadian distributor of Louisiana Grill that apparently the company is working on a new app, but that was last year and I haven't heard anything further. I live in Northwestern British Columbia and our winter is a full 5 months from November through March and while a few people use their wood pellet grills throughout the year, the main season for this sort of stuff up here is definitely from mid or late April (around now basically) to the middle or end of October. There is a lot of salmon fishing here so September and October are big month for people smoking their fish. Now, I just opened my Smoke It app for the first time this year and immediately received a pop-up message that Pit Boss now has their own app and typing "Pit boss" into the search field of the App Store did find it easily enough. What is not at all clear is whether this new Pit Boss app is supposed to work also with the Louisiana Grill products or not and calling their customer service line today wasn't much use as they are not open on Sundays. I will, however, call them tomorrow to find out because both Smoke It as well as the newer Pit Boss app get pretty bad ratings and they really should get their act together.  Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56563E03CC0A638C9B8DF995C7669%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:

Re: Pit boss grilling app

I use the Weber Smart Connect Hub.  You get an ambient probe for measuring your grill’s temperature and a meat probe.  I have a spare one from an iGrill I got a few years ago.  I also use a Weber Kettle 22 inch.  I’ve smoked plenty of ribs, chicken, pork butts, and other meats on there.  Oh yeah, and plenty of beer and tunes!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 12:21 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Chris, I found the messaging question that you had brought up. I didn't find a come pleat thread. But here I believe is the message that you are speaking of. And I believe that these archives are public. So you don't have to be a member to read them.Re: Smokergroups.io
On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:14 PM,   wrote:I recall about a year ago we had a discussion about smokers on the blind handyman list. I can’t remember the exact issue but I seem to remember a user having issues with the app, and when they called pit boss customer support the support was so atrocious that they ended up returning the pit boss grill and getting a Treger. I yeard the treger app was ok but I haven’t used it personally. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Sunday, April 23, 2023 5:08 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Pit boss grilling app Hello Kayla, I was going to tell you that Pit Boss uses the same app as Louisiana Grills and that app is called "Smoke It". You may or may not know that both Pit Boss and Louisiana Grill are brands owned by the same company, Danson LLC.I sell Louisiana Grill at my retail store and personally own a Founders Series 1200 and the app can be used, but it's not great and I had to have sighted help at first because sometimes Voiceover reads stuff in the app which visually is not there so you sort of have to know what you can tap and how to use it.I was told by my Canadian distributor of Louisiana Grill that apparently the company is working on a new app, but that was last year and I haven't heard anything further. I live in Northwestern British Columbia and our winter is a full 5 months from November through March and while a few people use their wood pellet grills throughout the year, the main season for this sort of stuff up here is definitely from mid or late April (around now basically) to the middle or end of October. There is a lot of salmon fishing here so September and October are big month for people smoking their fish. Now, I just opened my Smoke It app for the first time this year and immediately received a pop-up message that Pit Boss now has their own app and typing "Pit boss" into the search field of the App Store did find it easily enough. What is not at all clear is whether this new Pit Boss app is supposed to work also with the Louisiana Grill products or not and calling their customer service line today wasn't much use as they are not open on Sundays. I will, however, call them tomorrow to find out because both Smoke It as well as the newer Pit Boss app get pretty bad ratings and they really should get their act together.  Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56563E03CC0A638C9B8DF995C7669%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/014e01d976f1%24ccfdc7c0%2466f95740%24%40gmail.com.



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