Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Lynn Schneider]

I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 17.1. 
He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is reading back the 
information, any little noise will stop her from reading. It is like Siri has 
an open mic all the time. This behavior just started recently. He thought that 
an update fixed it, and it worked well for about a day, but then went back to 
this problematic behavior. Any insights on how to solve this problem would be 
much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Accessible app for the solar eclipse

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I was thinking about that app myself and wondered if it was still available. I went back through my iPhone app purchases and found this, which I think is the one you want.Eclipse Soundscapes, A multi-sensory experiencehttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/eclipse-soundscapes/id1262152991I hope this helps.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2023, at 5:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I remember there used to be an app where a blind person could get something out of something like tomorrow’s solar eclipse. Does anyone remember what that app was and if it’s still being supported?
 
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Re: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 15 Series

[Lynn Schneider]

Yesterday, while using the Bing app, I was notified by my iPhone 15 Pro that it 
would need to stop charging until it was able to cool down.  This was the first 
time this happened and it occurred after installing the update to iOS 17 which 
was supposed to address this problem. I do know that, even on my previous 13 
pro, the Bing app would seem to make my phone pretty warm, but never so much 
that it had to pause charging. I have a case which protects the side and back 
of the phone, but I have nothing covering the screen. The case has many 
openings that should let heat dissipate, as it is basically just a thin case 
protecting the back and sides of the phone. while this episode was the first 
and only such occurrence, I am hoping this will not present a significant 
problem in the future, as I am very excited about this phone and have never 
needed any kind of servicing for my previous iPhones. I do wonder if there is 
some kind of association with certain apps, but I really hope this can be 
addressed without Apple having to throttle the software to keep it from 
overheating.
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> On Oct 12, 2023, at 2:11 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
> 
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
> 
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
> 
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
> 
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
> 
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
> 
> I hope you are all doing well.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Mark on Apple News Plus, Not Bad, Not Bad at All

[Lynn Schneider]

Mark, I agree with you that Apple news plus is quite useful, especially when 
you are doing podcasts where you need news articles. I did have a question 
about the Apple one subscription. It looks like there are two tiers of 
subscription pricing and that the Apple News+ is only included in the more 
expensive tier. is this correct or am I misunderstanding? I am not interested 
in the arcade or AppleTV stuff, just the iCloud storage, music and news. I 
think the more expensive tier is 36 bucks a month, which I don’t think is worth 
the price for me since I am not interested in AppleTV or arcade, but if Apple 
News+ is included in the lower tier  subscription,  I would get it in a 
heartbeat. 

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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I don't know if I think the Apple Plus subscription at $9.95 per month is
> worth the cost, however, I can tell you that at part of my Apple One
> subscription, I am truly enjoying the service.
> 
> I am amazed at how Apple seems to know, based on my past reading history,
> what articles I will find interesting.  As astonishing as this may sound,
> they get it right about 98% of the time.
> 
> I don't know if this means that their algorithms are that good or that I am
> that simple and uncomplicated (big smile); perhaps a bit of both.
> 
> Would I trade Apple News Plus for NFB Newsline?  Absolutely not.  However, I
> do think there is something to be said for having Apple News Plus, if one
> can afford it.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Chat GPT, Anyone?

[Lynn Schneider]

ChatGPT can be a lot of fun and can be very useful in the creative process, the 
app is very simple to use and I think it is a great way for beginners to 
experience working with AI chat bots. At this time, chat GPT cannot check the 
web or provide sources for its answers, so if you are doing anything that 
requires up to date information, you will need a chat bot like Bing that can go 
out, search the web and bring back links to the actual sources it used to 
create the output. There was a time briefly when chat GPT could use Bing chat 
to do Web checking, but that feature was taken out because of some legal 
issues. They say they will reinstate it eventually. For anything needing 
up-to-date information or fact checking, I do recommend the Bing app, although 
it is not as Easy to use and there is advertising, but I still like it best 
right now. But if you just want to have some fun or get some help with the 
creative process, the free ChatGPT is a fine choice.

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> Hello All,
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> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
> 
> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product
> from the Open A I project.
> 
> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you finding
> it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the
> Wallstreet Journal?  
> 
> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I did
> not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
> 
> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how Chat
> GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job of it,
> apparently.
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> I look forward to reading your replies,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Calory tracker

[Lynn Schneider]

Some time ago, I very successfully used an app called Lose It, which should do everything you need. The subscription version has more options of things you can do.https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lose-it-calorie-counter/id297368629Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 21, 2023, at 9:43 AM, rhs via VIPhone  wrote:Hi, I’m looking for a recommendation for an accessible calory counting app.  It would be nice if I could enter recipes and have it calculate calories for a serving.  It would also be nice if I could enter miles walked.   I don’t mind paying for this.  I’d like an app with good privacy and security. Thanks.



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Re: A problem with YouTube app

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Yes, this is quite annoying for sure. I have submitted feedback to YouTube on 
this problem, and I hope others will do the same.  There is supposedly a 
workaround where, when you open the app for the first time, you turn, voiceover 
off, and then swipe down with your finger and then re-enable voiceover. This 
works unreliably for me. Also, it is very difficult to edit comments. My only 
other suggestion is that you leave feedback to YouTube letting them know that 
this is a problem for you as a blind person. Good luck.

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> Have you noticed that since  few months, it is impossible to scroll on 
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Re: why I don't like face ID

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Contrary to popular wisdom, on my iPhone 13 Pro with the latest software 
update, my face ID will just not work in the dark. Unfortunately for me, I 
forgot about this when I was sitting in my very dark room this morning trying 
to access my bank account. Having failed to recognize my face after three 
attempts, the app told me that I was locked out of my  Bank  because I forgot 
my bank password, which the app would not let me store in my keychain when I 
first set things up. So now, I am trying to recover my account. Coming up with 
a new strong password and typing it in on my iPhone is difficult, as it will 
not let me have a computer generated password and it has a time limit on typing 
things in. with all the capitals and punctuation and whatever else, with trying 
to type fast, my first password and my confirmation password never match. then, 
I am kicked out of the entire system and have to start the process all over 
again. this is not the first time something like this has happened to me, all 
because it did not recognize my face in the beginning. When I went to check my 
credit card balance, I was a little smarter this time and actually walked 
downstairs and was in good light. it recognized my face in a split second and 
there were no problems. so now, I am spending the afternoon engaged in the 
convoluted and arduous process of reestablishing access to my bank account with 
a password change. yes, I have attention turned off in the Face ID and I reset 
it frequently when it actually stops recognizing my face entirely. I am about 
ready to just ditch face ID all together for logins. according to my cited 
compatriots, my face does not change overnight so as to be unrecognizable. I am 
perplexed that I am having such difficulty considering the fact that most other 
blind users are not. Touch ID always worked flawlessly for me, but I accept the 
fact that we will never go back to that system. it is really disheartening that 
I have this problem and cannot seem to find solutions. I love my iPhone and I 
am thankful for its accessibility to me as a blind person, but I am just hoping 
that I will find a solution to the face ID conundrum.

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> There are a few reasons.  1 for what Mark and Donna brought up.
> 2 If I am laying down I can’t get it to reliably work.  I really wish Apple 
> would give us the choice.
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Re: Double tapping on video short in Youtube app feed using VoiceOver Youtube 17.35.3

[Lynn Schneider]

Some people have used a workaround which works sometimes for me but not always. 
The first time you open the YouTube app, turn voiceover off and swipe down on 
the screen with one finger, then reload voiceover and supposedly, it will be 
back to normal. You have to do this each time you open the YouTube app  for the 
first time. Some people are saying that they are not having any trouble with 
the latest YouTube app, but I certainly am. I did submit feedback on this 
problem which I do hope gets addressed soon, as I am a YouTube premium customer 
and have used the service for many years.

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> On Sep 11, 2022, at 12:34 AM, Shai  wrote:
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> Hello,
> When I first open the Youtube app and I am on my home feed and
> encounter a video short that I'd like to listen to, I am no longer
> able to double tap on the video using VoiceOver with Ios 15.6.1.
> Is anyone else encountering the same difficulty and what workaround is
> there currently to be able to review these videos?  I tried
> reinstalling the app with the same result.
> Please advise.
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Re: has anyone had any problem with latest youtube update?

[Lynn Schneider]

Chris, glad to know someone else was having trouble With this update. I thought 
something had gone crazy with my phone, so I rebooted, deleted and reinstalled 
the app, but goofiness persisted. I can’t even open a video by double tapping 
on it except for hit or miss getting it to work. I will be leaving feedback 
letting them know there is a problem, and no, I will not use the word goofiness 
to describe it. L O L.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Chris Judd  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I updated to the latest youtube, and I can only see a few videos on my home 
> screen of the app at a time.  Those are the videos are the ones that they 
> think you might enjoy looking at.
> I was wondering if anyone is  also experiencing this problem as well?
> Thanks,
> Chris
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Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Lynn Schneider]

Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to do 
back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I have 
tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with the 
fingerprint, that’s for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face ID 
> that makes it more forgiving. 
> 
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>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
>> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
>> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
>> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
>> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
>> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
>> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
>> tempting in the past. 
>> 
>> Ann 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why 
>>> we could not get it done at Wal-Mart. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Arnold Schmidt
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>> 
>>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
>>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  
>>> but I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I 
>>> will go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some 
>>> people seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make 
>>> it work consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do 
>>> as well as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it 
>>> gave their phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know 
>>> voice over said it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. 
>>> This is just speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone with which 
>>> to experiment.  
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt 
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear 
>>> to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have 
>>> to reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate 
>>> face ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people 
>>> say that it should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, 
>>> but in my very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has 
>>> gotten a lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that 
>>> Sieghard has had, despite setting mine up per the instructions given on 
>>> this list about six months ago.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>  Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
>>> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
>>> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
>>> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
>>> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps 
>>> had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for 
>>> me I would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature 
>>> turned off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both 
>>&g

Re: Face ID hit or miss

[Lynn Schneider]

I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear to 
me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to reset 
it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face ID so 
that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that it 
should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my very 
dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a lot 
better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has had, 
despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about six 
months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for physical 
> labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in a day in 
> my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 days until 
> either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts and scraps had 
> heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it works for me I 
> would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention feature turned 
> off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but both my eyes 
> are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have no issue with 
> Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not work if it 
> doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute darkness 
> with that feature disabled..
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>  
> on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I don't think 
> there is such a thing now with the newer phones that don't have a home 
> button. I just use a pass code. Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
> ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
> ID.
> 
> On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first few days or
> so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This is so that
> everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you receivedmake
> sense. Keep us posted.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>  
> On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  wrote:
>  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> A couple of things to try:
> * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight out in front
> of you.
> * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
> * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it again.
> * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. Sometimes, skin
> oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your ear while on
> a call.
> * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to enter your pin
> again.
>  
> If none of these things help, I would probably go back to where you bought
> it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>  
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have
> set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two
> or three times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my
> phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol.
> It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to
> pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in
> my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading.
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?

[Lynn Schneider]

I am resending this message from Richard because it saved my bacon while I was 
trying to learn the gestures without the home button  on my new iPhone 13 Pro. 
Since many of us may have gotten new phones without the old faithful home 
button over the holidays, thought I would re-post. Thanks Richard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> This is taken from my version of the VoiceOver Gestures which is on my web 
> site.
> But here is the sections relating to phones with no home buttons.
> 
> For devices without a home button:
> Side button replacing Home button commands
> *Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter your 
> passcode
> *Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
> *Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button and 
> Volume Up button.  Caution: if you hold the volume up and side power button 
> too long, you will activate the Emergency SOS and end up calling 911.
>  *Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
> *Reboot the iPhone: Press and release the volume up button, then the 
> volume down button, then hold in the side/power button for about 10 seconds 
> or until the Apple comes back and gradually fills in the image.
> *Power off the iPhone by holding in the power button until the power off 
> icon appears, release the side button and double tap on the Power Off button. 
>  Or, go to Settings, General, Shut down and double tap on shut down.
> *Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 
> 
> New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
> Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
> three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
> when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
> function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
> *Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
> finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
> finger up until the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Activate Reachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
> the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
> down.
> 
> Notification and Control Center
> 
> Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
> *Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
> down until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> *Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
> finger down until the  third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> 
> Other settings 
> Raise to Wake, under Settings, Display and Brightness, defaults to on.
> If you find that your phone is constantly trying to "wake" up or unlock, and 
> perhaps the battery is not giving you the time you thought it should, try 
> turning that feature off.  If you use VoiceOver, and it is constantly saying 
> the time whenever you move the iPhone, you probably have raise to wake on and 
> each time the phone moves, it is trying to wake up.  
> People who carry their phone in a bag or a purse may find it is constantly 
> waking up from the movement of the bag/purse.
> 
> There is also a feature called Tap to Wake, under Settings, Accessibility, 
> Touch, that allows you to wake up the phone by tapping in the middle of the 
> screen with one finger.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> - Jane Wagner
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can anyone send me a list of idiot-proof instructions for the 
> gestures I need to know for an IPhone with no physical home button please?
> 
> Hi all 
> 
> Apologies for this, as I'm sure many of you will probably think I'm seriously 
> behind the times. Basically, I'm getting a new IPhone as part of a job I do 
> with/for my local council. Problem is that this new IPhone doesn't have a 
> physical home button. 
> 
> I've never encountered this before, as I've always gone out of my way to make 
> sure that my phone has the physical button. However, this phone isn't my 
> choice, and I'm actually very nervous about getting it. 
> 
> So was just wondering if anyone could e-mail me a really idiot-proof list of 
> instructions so that I can stand half a chance of managing to operate this 
> buttonless phone?? Any help really really would be very much appreciated. For 
> example, when setting up the phone in the very first place how on earth do I 
> get VO to come on?? (Normally I'd just tripple tap the home button, and it's 
> sorted ... but with this I've no idea). How 

Re: Face ID Revisited

[Lynn Schneider]

Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I 
have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face 
ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no 
problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my 
face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone 
through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, 
which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons 
I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 
days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are 
doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite 
frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the 
face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without 
sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is 
very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to 
learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app 
switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know 
that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this 
bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t 
want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to 
authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us 
both patience and good luck. LOL.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Group.
> I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12.
> I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped 
> Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too.
> I am unable to unlock phone with face id.
> Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated.
> Thanks!
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Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app

[Lynn Schneider]

It does not work for me When it comes to reading messages. I’m not sure if you 
all are talking about reading or composing. Definitely, turning it off helps 
with composing, but reading is another issue altogether. I spend so much time 
just looking for the body of a message that it is ridiculous. And in the past, 
I was able to swipe up to the delete button and just double tap it to delete a 
message. Now, I cannot do that anymore and sometimes the delete button is 
nearly impossible to find,  Even at the bottom of the screen. For me at least, 
reading mail is dreadful right now and I really hope it gets fixed soon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy. I would appreciate it. If you could let us know, if it worked for 
> you.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 2:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.2 Cursor jumping all over the place in the email app
> 
> penny,
> I have just done this and hope it will work! Thanks for the tip!
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 8 Oct 2019, at 14:30, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to settings.then general, then keyboards. Turn off Slide to type.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:21 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  Running an iPhone 8 with the latest ios version 13.1.2 and am having sever 
>>> problems with the cursor moving, usually to the top of my email inbox list. 
>>> I am having to use my iPhone 6, luckily, still running 12.4 or whatever it 
>>> is Is anyone else getting this behaviour? If I open an email to read 
>>> it, then exit, I am placed back at the top of the inbox, as my inbox has 
>>> many, many, messages in it, and I have to trawl through hundreds on a daly 
>>> basis, my 8 has become unusable for mail. I have tried a reset settings, 
>>> but it made no difference.
>>> 
>>> Help please! Sandy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Lynn Schneider]

While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet,
> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing 
> AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
> opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
> scanner.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Larry and all.
>> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
>> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
>> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this 
>> voice dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about 
>> the voice dream scanner. 
>> Janet  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
>> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> The product option never works for me either.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
>> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
>> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
>> gross
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
>> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
>> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
>> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
>> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
>> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
>> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
>> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
>> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
>> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
>> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
>> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
>> app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
>> question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
>> app set up correctly? 
>> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
>> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
>> the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
>> to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
>> sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
>> some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
>> I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
>> to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
>> app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
>> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
>> reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
>> appreciated!  
>> Thank you all.  
>> Janet 
>> 
>> Peace Be With You. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: YouTube half speed setting. Does anyone know how to activate this?

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi Keith.  In the YouTube app, when you bring up a vidio, there is a button 
called “More Actions” which on my iPhone 8 is in sort of the top right of the 
screen, one swipe right after the “Share” button.  One of the options in that 
More Actions button is Playback Speed.  HTH.

Lynn

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> Hi,
>  
> I understand there is a toggle within YouTube to play video at half speed. 
> This can be useful when trying to learn a tune by ear. I can’t seem to find 
> the way to activate this, either via Safari or the YouTube app.
>  
> Does anyone know how this can be toggled on and off?
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Doing US taxes independently, is it possible?

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi everyone.  Tax time is upon us in the US and I was wondering if there were 
ways to deal with this independently using my iPhone.  I typically got help 
with this in the past, but was hoping to try doing it myself this time around 
since my economic situation has not changed much this year, so I anticipate 
that things should be pretty simple.

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Upgrade phone now or wait?

[Lynn Schneider]

Okay, so here’s my quandry.  I’m itching like a dog with a bad case of fleas to 
upgrade my SE to something else.  Verizon is dangling some pretty sweet carrots 
my way to go with the 8.  The thing is, I really like the form factor of the SE 
and how it fits in my hand and pocket, so I’d really like to stick with the 
smaller device if possible.  So, should I go for the 8 now or hang in there for 
a possible refresh of the SE.  I have one more payment on this current unit.  
What do you all think?  Thanks in advance for any insights and have a great day.

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Dictation and the mail app

[Lynn Schneider]

This message is for a friend of mine who uses an iPhone ate with the latest 
updates. He says that, for about the past month, when he dictates an email 
message, it is not being read back to him. When he is dictating a message in 
the message app, this does not happen. As he is dictating the email message, he 
can swipe to the text area and what he dictates is there, but it is not being 
bred back to him as he is dictating. As I am not having this particular problem 
myself, I am hoping you all will have some insights I could share with him on 
how to solve this problem. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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Questions on Apple Watch keyboard entry

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I have the 2nd gen Apple Watch with the most recent updatedWatch  OS version 
and I have two questions about entering text.
1.  Is it possible to touch type with VO?  Having to double tap each character 
is quite annoying and time consuming.
2.  My doctor's office called the other day with one of those automated 
appointment confirmation systems.  When I took the call on the watch, I could 
not for the life of me remember how to get a number pad up so I could press 1 
to confirm the appointment.  

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Re: Youtube version 12.23 and apparent absence of collapse video button VoiceOver iOS 10.3.2

[Lynn Schneider]

In my experience, this video collapse button issue is sort of random. Sometimes 
I can find it easily exactly where I expect it to be, and at other times, I 
cannot find it easily, but with some fiddling, eventually find it. I do notice 
that the app overall seems to crash more than usual. Sometimes, just triple 
clicking the home button to turn voiceover on and then off again will bring 
focus where I need it to be. I can mostly do what I want to do with the app, 
but I do hope I can get my old happy YouTube read experience back again soon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone  
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> When I played videos I had done an initial search for on Safari, the 
>> collapse video button was underneath "go back to Safari". Otherwise, when I 
>> go just straight to YouTube, there is no collapse video button except for 
>> when I do what someone here said about pressing the home button and going 
>> back into YouTube.
>> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Hope Paulos  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the latest version of YouTube, and have the ability to collapse the 
>> video. It looks like it is to the right of the video player.
>> 
>> Hope Paulos
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Even though we can't close videos currently playing, we can still
>>> access the list of recommendations after the autoplay button to play
>>> the next video, at least when swiping through the screen. Not a great
>>> solution, but it will do for now.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
 On 6/21/17, Cristóbal  wrote:
 Same here. The app was crashing when in the liked and favorites list for me
 as well.
 Only way to get out of a video for me is to completely close out the app 
 and
 open it again. Have to do this for every single videio I click on. I 
 already
 wrote with feedback voicing my displeasure with these last two updates.
 Even tried downloading YouPlayer as an alternative and while it still works
 fine, I can't seem to log into my Google account anymore.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Shai
 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Youtube version 12.23 and apparent absence of collapse video 
 button
 VoiceOver iOS 10.3.2
 
 Hello all,
 Yesterday, I saw that there was an update to the YouTube app which I 
 applied
 thinking that it might fix the issue I am having with the app crashing when
 I open a playlist with VoiceOver. It still has not fixed this issue and it
 seems that the collapse video button is also not present. This button
 enabled a person to exit out of an existing video and watch other videos on
 their recommended tab or to search for a different video altogether via the
 app's search button. With the collapse video button eliminated, one can 
 only
 pause and resume a video, or watch videos related to the current one.
 Does anyone have a workaround for collapsing a video? For now, I have been
 closing the app in the switcher after the conclusion of a video and
 re-opening it.
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Re: Searching in the App Store broken?

[Lynn Schneider]

Mary, I had the same problem on Saturday night when I did a search in the 
store. I am not running the beta, so I think it might be on their end. It seems 
to be somewhat of an intermittent problem as I was able to do a search 
yesterday morning successfully. Not sure what to make of it, but hope it gets 
straightened out somehow.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 8:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>  OK, so if this is a beta problem, I obviously shouldn't have reported it 
> here. But I thought the App Store has updated separately from the beta 
> process. So I thought maybe it was an App Store problem, just like when the 
> Apple Store updates separately as an app. Strange.
> Mary
> 
> 
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>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Mary, 
>> 
>> Running the beta I'm also experiencing the same problem. 
>> 
>> Have reported this through the feedback app. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>>> On 12/09/2016 9:36 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>> Mary,
>>> I just tried the same search on my iPod 6 running the iOS 10 beta.
>>> It said,  results.
>>> As I flicked right, the 12th flick brought me to Microsoft Outlook, email 
>>> and calendar etc.
>>> This was after one that said Advertisement, which was about Microsoft 
>>> Outlook. So, apparently we will be getting ads in the app store searches. 
>>> But, it worked for me.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
 I have not had occasion to do a search in the App Store recently. But just 
 now, I decided I wanted to search for Microsoft outlook. So I typed 
 Microsoft outlook into the search field. And I started in a little 
 circular dance where I would see something on the main screen that said 
 "search results". There were no results below that. Double tapping on 
 search results resulted in no change. Up in the search box it said 137 
 results along with my search term. Double tapping on that closed 
 everything out and still gave me no results. And around it went. I tried 
 searching for just outlook. Then there were things that were related, each 
 of which had a button next to it, like related searches would be. But 
 never did I ever see one listing for a app. I don't get it. Is the store 
 broken? There isn't a beta of the App Store, so far as I am aware. So even 
 though I have the beta of iOS 10 here, I would think the store performance 
 would be the same, wouldn't it?
 In other words, I hope I'm not reporting something here or asking about 
 something that the moderators would not find amusing.
 Mary
 
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Re: playing a video on youtube with the youtube app

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Hi Rebecca. If the student has played a video in the official YouTube app and 
wants to play it again, Just do a two finger double tap and it will start 
playing again from the beginning. I know this because I tend to fall asleep 
with YouTube relaxation videos and want to replay them from the beginning when 
I wake up.you don't have to mess with the position slider if you are at the 
very end of the video. Just do a two finger double tap and it will start 
playing again from the beginning. Hope this helps.  

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi all. One of my students would like to know how to replay a youtube video 
> especially if it's a full episode of something? Thanks.
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Re: Can no longer like or dislike videos with official YouTube app

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi Kevin. Yes, it is the fourth GEN AppleTV. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

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> On Jan 13, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is this on 4th gen Apple TV?
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM Lynn Schneider <canepri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am wondering if anyone else is having trouble liking and disliking videos 
>> with the latest official YouTube app. Actually, I am having trouble with 
>> this both on the iPhone app as well as the AppleTV. I did leave feedback on 
>> the app in the Feedback section, but have had no response yet and the latest 
>> update did not fix the problem with the iPhone app. I'm hoping someone can 
>> give me a workaround, as I really do like giving recognition where it is do. 
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.
>> 
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Can no longer like or dislike videos with official YouTube app

[Lynn Schneider]

I am wondering if anyone else is having trouble liking and disliking videos 
with the latest official YouTube app. Actually, I am having trouble with this 
both on the iPhone app as well as the AppleTV. I did leave feedback on the app 
in the Feedback section, but have had no response yet and the latest update did 
not fix the problem with the iPhone app. I'm hoping someone can give me a 
workaround, as I really do like giving recognition where it is do. Thanks in 
advance for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: is there any accessible youtube downloader for Iphone?

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Just tried Downie and it is indeed accessible. 
Unfortunately, however, it returns an error message saying it can no longer 
download YouTube content.  I don’t know if this is because the developer has 
not updated the app to the new API or if it is indeed not possible for these 
types of apps to work with Google anymore.  I did hear that Google was planning 
a subscription service for YouTube in the near future, so maybe they are 
getting ready for that by restricting what the third party apps are able to do, 
but not sure of that.  


 On May 9, 2015, at 3:14 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Not tried this myself, but Downie is a Youtube downloader which can 
 optionally extract the audio portion. I heard it's accessible. Again, not 
 tried this myself so would appreciate any feedback from those who have. The 
 Mac version is definitely accessible because I have it here so should know 
 *smile*.
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 hello. I would like to know if there is an accessible youtube downloader. 
 thanks
 
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Re: Relaxation App For Help Getting To Sleep?

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi Destene.  If traditional relaxation methods prove inadequate or if you want 
a unique type of relaxation experience, I would recommend trying ASMR.  I 
really like an app called ASMR 5 - Listen, Relax and Sleep by Sandratra 
Razafindralambo
https://appsto.re/us/V1BFH.i
This was not a free app at the time I downloaded it and there are a few 
unlabeled buttons which I will let the developer know about, but it works very 
well with VO in its current state.  Here is the App Store description:
Are you the kind of person who has trouble getting to sleep? Have you already 
experienced that relaxing sensation at the hair salon when someone is washing 
or brushing your hair? Or maybe when watching Bob Ross paint clouds and trees 
on PBS? There are certain things that trigger a relaxing sensation when we 
hear them; it's like a slight natural high. This experience is called ASMR.

ASMR 5 will help you achieve the best ASMR experience on your iOS device. It 
provides everything you may need to relax from High quality audio samples to HD 
videos, including Advanced trigger search, Playlists and Artists browsing, 
Personal video collections, Real-time video feed and so much more. 

This app also supports background audio and background streaming so if you’re 
listening to a sample or watching a video and want to switch to another app (or 
just lock your device), you can. And it's great not just on the iPhone, but on 
the iPad as well where ASMR 5 takes great advantage of the expanded iPad canvas.

OVERVIEW 
• Simple and intuitive interface 
• 25 High quality audio samples available at start
• Personal collections to help you organize your videos
• Interactive browsing to discover new ASMR artists
• Powerful search engine with filters (duration, sort, and video quality)
• Subscriptions to quickly access your favorite ASMR artists profiles
• Featured Artists to help ASMR artists get more exposure, views and subscribers
• Real-time update for video feeds with new releases every day
• Automatic binaural (3D) audio support when available
• Automatic bookmarking and resume of your videos
• Share everything via SMS, Email, Twitter, Facebook and AirDrop 
• Multitasking and background audio support (control center and lockscreen)
• Universal app that runs great on all Apple devices: iPhone, iPad and iPod 
Touch.

If you have any questions about ASMR in general or this app in particular, 
please don't hesitate to ask and I will try to assist.
HTH.   Lynn



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 On Mar 20, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Destene Noller destene.nol...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi All!
 
 Do any of you use a relaxation App to help you get to sleep at night? If so, 
 I'd love to know what you're using? Thanks so much!
 
 Desi
 
 
 
 
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Problem with official YouTube app

[Lynn Schneider]

I know it has been claimed on this list by others that the accessibility of the 
official YouTube app has improved over time, but I seem to have a vexing 
problem I'm hoping you can help me with.  When I first open the YouTube app and 
try to swipe right through my list of new videos, I eventually encounter a More 
button whereupon VO suddenly loses focus and I have to do a 3-finger swipe to 
scroll the screen.  It seems like focus is lost as soon as I encounter the More 
button.  I find this really frustrating, as I do not like the way my list of 
suggested videos is laid out now on the screen.  I am using an iPhone 5S with 
the latest IOS.  Any assistance with this problem would be most sincerely 
appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any insights.

Lynn

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Re: where's history in youtube app?

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi Ioana. To find the history, go into your YouTube app, double tap the menu 
button and you will find history under that. Hope this helps.

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 On Nov 29, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Could anyone help me find the history function in the youtube app? 
 I am signed in but cannot find it anywhere.
 Thanks,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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Re: Bard Mobile search problem in IOS 8

[Lynn Schneider]

Hi David. I duplicated searching in Bard and experienced the same issue. 
However, I did find a workaround that seems to work.it seems that when you 
swipe right on the Bard search page, it is not scrolling the cursor. Therefore, 
what you have to do is do a three finger swipe up to go to page 2 and then find 
the text box with your finger not by swiping but by moving your finger around 
until you find that text box, then do a double tap and it should bring up the 
keyboard. I'm not sure if I'm making sense here, but I think what is happening 
is that even though voiceover is saying text box when you swipe right, it is 
not scrolling the screen, so the cursor is actually not on the text box. So you 
have to move your finger around and maybe even three finger swipe up to the 
next screen to actually be on the text box.hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

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 I am having trouble doing a book search in bard Mobile since upgrading to IOS 
 8.  I tap on Get Books and then Browse BARD.  When I double tap in the text 
 field for the book search there is no keyboard activated.  Has anyone else 
 noticed this?  I am considering deleting the app and reinstalling it.  Will I 
 lose any settings doing this?
  
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Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

[Lynn Schneider]

Wow, what a shame. I was so excited about iOS eight and even getting a new 
phone, but with what you are saying, it seems I shouldn't do either, at least 
for a while. Thanks so much for the heads up. At least now I won't be in such a 
hurry to update or get the new phone.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'm assuming that my new phone will come with iOS8 installed. If so, I will 
 hold my other phone and maybe my iPad back until I have worked with it on the 
 new phone and I will advise a couple of people I help not to update 
 immediately so that either things will improve or I will know how tohelp them 
 first. But if I can use the new iOS on my new phone, then I will update my 
 other devices even if there are some bugs.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Rose Combs roseco...@q.com wrote:
 
 I think since I still have a 4S for now and won't get out in the rush for
 the new next week that I may for the first time hold off on the upgrade.
 Usually I grab it he first day last year it was four days due to
 circumstances beyond my control but sounds like I need to upgrade my phone
 first and that probably won't happen for a few more weeks, I am eligible
 through Verizon, have been for over a month now but... 
 
 Then again, who knows, I may go for it anyway but at this moment I am of the
 opinion that I need the newer phone first.  Which one, I don't know, screen
 size is of no matter to me but camera stability is, since I have to use the
 phone to identify a lot now.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 Are you willing to comment as to whether version 8 is not very usable
 with these bugs or not? I'm one of these who wants to install new
 things asap regardless of the consequences. However, if it is so buggy
 that it's hard to use then I won't. The problems which people
 complained about last year didn't bother me to much if that says
 anything.
 
 On 9/13/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 A very positive article, what it unfortunately does not mention is that
 iOS
 8 at this time (the Goldmaster or release version) has the most Voiceover
 issues of any release and some of these are not just little things like
 Voiceover saying Screen Locked twice which it did for a long time after
 iOS 7 was released.
 
 
 
 I have been running the iOS 8 Beta since June and as far as I can tell
 Apple
 has listened to hardly any of the feedback and bug reports provided by
 blind
 beta testers. There have been 5 Beta versions and now the Goldmaster and
 almost all of the most serious and annoying bugs are still there. I hope
 that they react faster once the public release happens next Wednesday and
 hopefully blind people start flooding Apple Accessibility with emails and
 phone calls about these issues.
 
 
 
 I will post a list of the 5 or so bugs which bug me the most and which I
 know other beta testers have reported as soon as the iOS 8 update comes
 out.
 Anybody who wants to read about them just look for a post on Wednesday,
 September 17 with subject The top 5 most annoying bugs in iOS 8 with
 Voiceover.
 
 What bothers me is that a few of these issues are not specifically
 accessibility related and they don't happen if Voiceover is not running
 but
 as soon as Voiceover is on you suddenly are plagued by this and that.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:28 AM
 To: ViPone list
 Subject: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
 Here is a link to an article by Steven Aquino about the accessibility
 features in iOS 8:
 
 http://www.macstories.net/stories/an-overview-of-ios-8s-new-accessibility-fe
 atures/
 Richard
 
 
 
 Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor
 Hugo
 
 
 
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Re: Any problems with the fingerprint scanner?

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Hi Chuck. I have the fingerprint scanner on the 5S and I love it. When you 
first set up the fingerprint scanner, you will be asked to move your finger 
around a little bit on the scanner so it can get all angles of your finger. I 
think you get up to five finger print settings. I did two fingers on each hand. 
This is a good idea for convenience and in case you have an unfortunate 
encounter with a meat slicer or something else terrible. Of course, nothing in 
computing is 100% secure, but if you are concerned about your fingerprints 
being stored in the cloud, no worries. They are stored on the chip in your 
phone and not in the cloud. Also, I'm fairly certain that if you start using 
the fingerprint scanner and don't like it, you can disable it. You can even 
label each finger print with the name of the finger. This way, you can delete 
any fingers you don't want, and you can even put in a finger from another 
person and label it in case they need to get into your phone, they can, just as 
long as you trust them. As I said, you don't even have to use it if you don't 
want to, but I think you'll find that it is really wonderful and you'll never 
want to go back. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hello all, 
 For those who have an iPhone 5, do you have any problems with the fingerprint 
 scanner? 
 I am not sure why, but I seen to have a phobia with this technology. 
 I plan to buy an iPhone 6, and need a little reassurance. 
 
 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: Facebook app question

[Lynn Schneider]

I have the same problem with the Facebook app. What I sometimes do is take it 
out of the app switcher and reload it and that sometimes helps.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2013, at 22:43, Nicki Keck jesusgir...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried that, but still, it's like it's not refreshing or something because 
 then it just sohws a few and goes back to when I last checked it.
 
 
 
 have a blessed day,
 
 Nicki
 
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 Subject: RE: Facebook app question
 
 What I do is to tap the button top; left, flick down to the button just
 after newsfeed, tap most recent and it enters the most current statuses.
 You can then just keep flicking down to read as far back as you want. Hope
 that helps.
 
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Hidden text in E-mail messages

[Lynn Schneider]

I am on a cooking list for the blind and occasionally, someone posts messages 
where VO will say hidden text.  I just double tap on it and the recipe text 
comes up, but I'm curious to know what hidden text is and why it is hidden in 
the first place.  

Thanks in advance for any insights.

Lynn

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Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality

[Lynn Schneider]

Gosh Mark, your message makes me curious to know if the improved volume and 
sound quality would apply to recordings made with the iphone 5 as well as the 
call quality.  I wonder about this because I tend to be a bit softspoken and on 
my 4S, I could never get my recordings to be loud enough, no matter which 
recording app I tried.  I too am on the fence about whether or not to upgrade, 
but if I could make better recordings with the 5 than I can currently with the 
4S, that might be at least one more selling point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 18:24, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Les,
 
 I can only speak from the perspective of being on the listening end of an
 iPhone 5 connection as I do not own one.  
 
 I have experienced superior call quality when the iPhone 5 caller is or is
 not using the iPhone 5 speaker phone.  
 
 By the way, I noticed a vast improvement when iPhone 5 caller uses the new
 Ear Pods, as well.  This weekend, I went to the Apple store and purchased a
 pair for my iPhone 4 S.  
 
 Those with whom I have spoken, via my new Ear Pods report a definite
 increase in both call volume and quality as a result.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Amazing iPhone 5 Call Quality
 
 Mark, I'm curious. How do you find the quality of the call when you are on
 speaker. I have a for ass and I've had many difficulties using the
 speakerphone. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:02 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 To date, I have had no fewer than 10 conversations with 7 people via 
 their new iPhone 5s.
 
 I am amazed at the outstanding voice call quality of the iPhone 5 as 
 heard from my end.  Simply stated, I was unable to tell that they were 
 not on a land-line.
 
 Regardless of the hardware difference, iOS bugs, etc, the iPHone 5 is, 
 in my opinion, a superior product in terms of wireless call quality.
 
 Bravo to Apple on this feature.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Seri and dictation.

[Lynn Schneider]

I would also add that, in my experience at least, Siri gets more and more 
accurate as you use it, so don't give up if things don't work well right away.  
Of course, there are always those server and internet issues.  There was a 
2-day period of time recently where I could not use Siri at all despite 
rebooting the phone, etc. and it just miraculously came back at some point, but 
in general, Siri and I have worked well together.


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On Jul 22, 2012, at 14:16, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 I am dictating this message. And I find that I am getting better and better 
 at doing so. Like most of you I do downloaded Fleksy  and installed it. 
 However having done that I find that voice dictation is vetter any day! I 
 really love it. I've had no problems whatsoever. If you notice that one or 
 two mistakes in my email. I have purposely  not corrected it to demonstrate 
 that they're only a few Eddas in such a long email! Please don't give up on 
 voice dictation! It's excellent. It's made me lazy though! :-) :-)
 Best wishes and many blessings! 
 
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