Re: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App on Apple TV 4th Generation

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

How interesting. I don’t see the audible.com app in my purchased history, nor 
when I do a search for it in the app store on my apple Tv.
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:56 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello My Friend,
> 
> Yes I did, indeed, attempt to use the same method one would use to delete an 
> app.  It does not work.
> 
> I saw the Audible app in my purchase history of the tvOS App Store on my 
> Apple TV.  I never would have thought of downloading it were it not in my 
> purchased list.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS 
> App on Apple TV 4th Generation
> 
> Hi mark,
> 
> Have you tried the same way you get rid of apps, press and hold the touchpad, 
> then press the Play/Pause button? This is only a guess which leads me to my 
> question. How do get Audible on the Apple TV? I can only assume for some 
> reason it is not available in Canada because when I look in my purchased apps 
> where I see all apps I purchased on my iPhone and which are also available on 
> TVOS it is not there. When I search for "Audible" all I get is the app for 
> AudioBooks.com. Since we use the US version of Audible in Canada I am really 
> surprised it's not available.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 12:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A Question About How To Delete Audio Books from the Audible tvOS App 
> on Apple TV 4th Generation
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this question.
> 
> Does anyone know how to delete an audio book from the Audible app on the 
> latest version of tvOS?
> 
> My situation is as follows:
> 
> Because I have a legacy Audible account, one that has not yet been linked to 
> Amazon, I can only login to my account using a username and password instead 
> of an email address and password.  At present, the tvOS version of the app 
> does not support this.  
> 
> Yesterday, after opening the Audible app in tvOS, I went to the accounts tab. 
>  To my surprise, even when not logged in, one can browse and download free 
> audio books.  I took advantage of this feature and downloaded one title.  
> Everything works perfectly accept that I cannot discover how to remove the 
> book.  
> 
> Any and all replies welcomed.
> 
> Mark
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Re: iPhoneSE

[Ricardo Walker]

There have been reports of leaked photos of the display of this phone, and it 
will not support 3D touch. If that report is accurate or not? Who knows. But I 
would be surprised if it indeed had 3D touch.
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Doesss  AnyOne know or is PrivyTo WhetherOrNot Apple's ForthComing-UpComing 
> 4Inch iPhone will include its NEW 3D Touch Feature, which is Exclusive to 
> iPhone6SS+?
> 
> JustWonderin
> If Apple is goin to incorporate Fragmentation InTo its LineUp 
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Radio app suggestions for the 4th gen Apple TV.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I wasn’t sure which list was best to ask this so I’m posting to both. Sorry for 
the potential inconvenience. I was looking for suggestions for a radio 
streaming app for the apple TV. Currently, I’m using the free version of My 
Tuner radio. The app works just fine for my needs except for one thing. There 
is no way I see to favorite stations. I have like 6 or 7 I would like to 
favorite so I can switch between them quickly.

Any suggestions for apps that do this on the Apple TV 4th gen?

TIA.

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Re: How to check the battery on the watch quickly Re: Alerts, iPhone & Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

On a watch, all the features that don’t tell time like calendars, compass, etc 
are called complications. It actually makes sence to call the things you add to 
your watch face complications.
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> You know, whomever decided to call these complications had to be a dunce.  It 
> is so annoying to think of a program as a complication.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: How to check the battery on the watch quickly Re: Alerts, iPhone 
> & Watch
> 
> I put mine as a complication on my Modular clockface. It's just a few swipes 
> right after activating the watch. Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> TaraPrakash
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How to check the battery on the watch quickly Re: Alerts, iPhone & 
> Watch
> 
> Hi all. 
> 
> I used the glances option to check the battery remaining on my watch. 
> 
> Is there any faster way  to achieve that Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>  Well, if you have alerts going to your watch, by default, the watch will 
>> make the sound. You have to change that on the watch for the sounds to only 
>> come from the Phone. I do this myself, so I know it’s possible.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Traci  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I can figure, I have tweaked all the settings in various ways, 
>>> with the same result. Vibration alert on my watch, no sound on my phone. 
>>> I'm beginning to think this is normal behavior. Is this the way it works 
>>> for others?
>>> 
>>> Since my Apple Watch is brand-new, can I call Apple support?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mini
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
 There is also a setting on the iPhone side of the watch app that says 
 something about the watch mirroring the iPhone. You might want to turn 
 that off.
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
> On Jan 19, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Traci  wrote:
> 
> :-) I have the watch muted already. I double checked it in the settings 
> on the actual watch.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:27 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> Mute the watch in the actual settings on the watch itself. This will 
>> make it so only the vibrations occur on the watch. You should then get 
>> the audio alerts on the phone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Traci  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I looked in the various notification & message settings in the 
>>> Apple Watch app… so far, I am unsuccessful at having vibration alerts 
>>> on my wrist and sound alerts on my phone. Does anyone know if this 
>>> particular thing is possible?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  
 wrote:
 
 Hello Traci,
 
 You can customize your notifications in great detail using the 
 Notifications options in the Watch app on your phone. If you mirror 
 notifications on your watch, you get them on the watch instead of the 
 phone unless you're using the phone at the time they come in. However, 
 you can configure any notification to play 

bluetooth weirdness with my apple watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

I’m experiencing some odd behavior with my watch when I connect it to a 
bluetooth headset. I can hear voiceover just fine but, calls are not routed to 
the bt headset which is kinda the entire point. lol.

I’ve gone into settings/general/accessibility on my iPhone and set call routing 
to bluetooth headset. No dice.

So, I’ve tried 2 bt devices. My sennheiser momentum over ear wireless 
headphones, and a jawbone era.  I get the same behavior with both.

Any suggestions and, are others seeing this behavior?

Thanks.

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Re: Benefits of Apple Watch

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi

No. No touch screen keyboard. You use dictation, emoji’s, and depending on the 
app you can have some pretyped responses.

hth
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Does Apple Watch have a touch screen keyboard. 
> 
> I wish you were able to do something on the watch without the   phone   If 
> nothing  else  to have an FM radio built  in 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I love getting silent notifications via buzz patterns from the watch. And I 
>> know I'm less likely to miss notifications of things like text messages when 
>> I'm in a noisy place, which I appreciate.
>> 
>> I like being able to plug my iPhone into our car stereo and control music 
>> playback from the watch, so that VoiceOver doesn't go through the speakers.
>> 
>> I knit, and I'm doing a pattern where I need to count rows. I just got an 
>> app for the watch called Clicker that is a counter; you double-tap it when 
>> you want to increase the count. It's perfect for working with this knitting 
>> pattern.
>> 
>> I recently played a game called The Martian, where you're trying to help a 
>> guy stranded on Mars make it home. There was an Apple Watch component where 
>> I could see the character's vital signs. This is whimsical, but fun.
>> 
>> And I agree with Robert that having a timer on my wrist that alerts me 
>> silently is really helpful.
>> 
>> I also love being able to see the current temperature on my wrist, and being 
>> able to turn the digital crown a few times to see what the temperature is 
>> forecast to be later in the day.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nancy and list,
>>> 
>>> I love being able to read and reply to tweets, text messages and email on 
>>> my Apple watch. This is particularly great when I am in a situation where 
>>> taking out my phone is undesirable.
>>> 
>>> I use my watch to time activities and the alarm function to keep me on 
>>> track. It is a great time keeper.
>>> 
>>> Just recently, a watch app became available that allows one to get the time 
>>> presented in vibration patterns. This means that one can silently check the 
>>> time without disturbing others with VoiceOver. The app is called Timebuz. 
>>> There is a new app called iReg which allows one to make audio recordings 
>>> using just the watch.
>>> 
>>> Apple Watch is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Good luck with your decision.
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 This afternoon, I am going to have the opportunity to look at Apple 
 watches. I am deciding whether or not to purchase one. What are the 
 benefits? What have you really enjoyed about your Apple Watch? What are 
 the drawbacks? What do you wish you had known before you purchased an 
 Apple Watch? I will need to use voice over so please include excess 
 ability comments.
 Thanks very much!
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
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Re: Apple Watch Question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

you have to use the watch app on your iPhone. Select the feature tab or search 
tab on the bottom.

BTW, to install/ uninstall apps already downloaded, in the my watch tab, is a 
list of all the available apps you have. double tap on those and you have the 
ability to install/uninstall on your watch.

hth
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> First let say that I hope every one had a wonderful Christmas yesterday.
> 
> I too got an Apple Watch.  It was my understanding that you could get apps 
> for the watch.  Can anybody point me in the right direction as to where I 
> might find other apps for my watch?  Lastly, I hope everybody has a great New 
> Year!
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> No, the Reminders app isn't on the watch, but you can ask Siri to set a 
>> reminder, and you will get notifications about reminders on your watch. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 26, 2015, at 1:12 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After setting up my Apple Watch, I have noticed that the Reminders app is 
>>> not on my watch.  Is there any way I can add the Reminders app to my watch?
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris
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Re: Power saving mode

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Low power mode turns off automatically when your phone is charged to 80%.

hth
> On Sep 19, 2015, at 6:32 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone know if, once put Power Saving Mode on, you then have to manually turn 
> it off once you charge the unit, or does that happen automatically?
> 
> Carol P
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 10:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Power saving mode
> 
> 
>> Apple is calling this "Low Power Mode" and hence I assume Apple has meant 
>> for this to be used once you get your 20% low battery warning and you want 
>> to get the most out of your remaining battery life.
>> When the low battery warning appears, the option to turn on low power mode 
>> is on the screen.
>> You can, however, manually enable it very quickly and easily by telling SIRI 
>> "Turn on Power Saving Mode".
>> This will display the "Low Power Mode" explanation screen and you can at 
>> that point tap cancel to not turn it on or tap continue and low power mode 
>> will be turned on.
>> OK, so I now just tried this again and this time it just turned it on 
>> without showing me that screen, but either way, you can turn it on and off 
>> with SIRI. I do agree, though, that this would be not a bad additional 
>> option to have in control centre.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Traci Duncan
>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 12:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Power saving mode
>> 
>> Where is a good place to suggest things to Apple?
>> 
>> I want to know, why in the world did they not put this power saving option 
>> in control center?  That would make it easily accessible to toggle on/off.
>> 
>> Would this be an appropriate thing to do via feedback assistant for public 
>> beta?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: Apple Music goes official, free for 3 months

[Ricardo Walker]

Simple.

With Pandora, you don’t pick the songs you want to hear. You just give it 
parameters, artists, genres, etc, and the app plays what it thinks you want to 
listen to. Apple music, and Spotify for example, allow you to find a specific 
song, and stream it as much as you want, etc.

Thanks
 On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:19 AM, Robert Doc wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
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 Why would anyone currantly with Pandora leave it to pay more  a month to 
 listen to music?
 - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 8:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Music goes official, free for 3 months
 
 
 This sounds a lot like iTunes Radio except for the social network part.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:29 PM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar hary.ru...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Apple Music, available to users of iPhones and iPads on June 30 in 100
 countries, includes a radio station with personalized playlists and a
 choice from
 millions of songs on demand.
 SAN FRANCISCO: Apple unveiled a subscription streaming music service
 Monday that could be a powerful rival to online services such as
 Spotify and Pandora.
 
 
 Apple Music, available to users of iPhones and iPads on June 30 in 100
 countries, includes a radio station with personalized playlists and a
 choice from
 millions of songs on demand.
 
 Chief executive Tim Cook said the new Apple Music service would be
 the next chapter in music and will change the way you experience
 music forever.
 
 The service will be available for $9.99 per month, with a family plan
 for up to six people at $14.99.
 
 
 Apple Music is really going to move the needle for fans and artists,
 said Apple's Jimmy Iovine. Online music has become a complicated mess
 of apps,
 services and websites. Apple Music brings the best features together
 for an experience every music lover will appreciate.
 
 The service includes a live radio station called Beats 1, tools to
 find curated playlists or individual songs and a social music network
 on which users
 can comment on music and share it.
 
 
 
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Re: Changing the owner name on an iPhone

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Hello,

You can do this by going to settings/general/about and double tap on the name 
button.

hth

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 On Nov 29, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am getting an iPhone 6 that should arrive Tomorrow. I will be giving my 
 wife my iPhone 5. How do I change the name on the phone from mine to hers? I 
 did this a couple of years ago, but have forgotten how to do this now.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: alex speech on iPhone 5 S?

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Yup,

That is correct.

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 On Nov 28, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 To get Alex we need to install iOS 8???
 At 06:58 PM 11/28/2014, you wrote:
 I'm not sure if I understand your question or not, but the 5s has the same 
 64-bit A7 chip it's always had, so yes, it will support Alex. The key is 
 that it's a 64-bit processor, which is what Alex requires.
 
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 With the 5 S having the new serious processor, will Alex work on it???
 
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Re: Can I save a Microsoft Word file on my device rather than keeping it in the cloud or in DropBox?

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Hello,

I’ve seen an option to save a file on the device in the free official MS word 
app.

hth.

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 The subject says it all. Thanks for any help, even if the answer is No.
  
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Re: [Blindgeekzone] 5 IOS 8 Flaws You Should Know

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Hi,

Maybe he didn't have the time to clean it up as you said?  He probably figured, 
some people might find this of interest, and in that case, they won't mind 
arrowing down a bit to click on the link.

It took me all of 5 seconds to find the link in the post.

JMO.

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 On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:21 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Seen these elsewhere, wish you'd clean them up or give us a clue what we're 
 looking for in them.   Don't we just hate wading through tons and miles of 
 headers and from andthe bleddy s
 
 RobH, not amused.
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 10:48 AM
 Subject: Fwd: [Blindgeekzone] FW: 5 IOS 8 Flaws You Should Know
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 
  Forwarded Message 
 http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/5-flaws-ios-8-everyone-should-know.html
 
 
 
 Matt
 
  mailto:matt.from.flor...@gmail.com matt.from.flor...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 From: Matt Presnell [mailto:mattpresn...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:27 AM
 To: MatthewPresnell
 Subject: 5 IOS 8 Flaws You Should Know
 
 
 
 https://umano.me/c/2oXVN/5-ios-8-flaws-you-should-know
 
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Re: the 16 or the 64G?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I always tell people to go for as much storage as your wallet will allow.  The 
way you use your phone might change in the future.  Why possibly pigeon hold 
yourself if you don't half to?

Thanks.

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 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 It all depends on your expected usage. That is, if you never store music, 
 movies, audio books, tons of voices, or huge apps on your phone, 16GB is 
 fine. If, however, the extra 48GB is worth the $100 so you *can* fit all the 
 stuff I just listed, that's fine too. Basically, there's no functional 
 difference between the two, and the 64GB is $100 more. Only you know if the 
 price increase and thereby storage increase is worth it. Personally, I have a 
 16GB phone that currently has 4GB free, but no music or movies on it, and I 
 don't use audio books.
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'd say 64gb if you can afford it. I've heard people lament about having not 
 enough storage; I don't think I've ever heard anybody complain about having 
 too much storage. Besides this, quite a few people had to dump stuff off 
 their 16gb devices to download and/or install this time, though this is less 
 of a problemif you use iTunes. But I would say you should go for the 64gb if 
 you can afford it.
 
 -- 
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 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Pam Berman pamelacber...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm convinced that I should upgrade my IPhone 4S to the 6 but should I go 
 with the 16 or 64G? I've always had 16G in the past  haven't had any 
 problems at all, but going forward I'm not sure what is best.
 I look forward to hearing from you.
 Warmly,
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Re: Any thoughts on screen protectors?

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I haven't used a screen protector in 4 years.  I honestly don't see the point.  
As long as you don't throw your phone in pockets with keys and other metal 
objects frequently, chances are, your display won't get scratches.

I think screen protectors can help with screen glare, and fingerprints on your 
screen but, if you don't have usable vision, that stuff won't matter to you 
anyway.

JMO.

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 Hi,
 
  
 
 Curious to learn if folks are choosing to use screen protectors or not.
 
  
 
 Are they pretty generic and interchangeable, or are there certain recommended 
 brands.
 
  
 
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Re: fleksy keyborard and IOS 8

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Hello,

I think I might have  read you mention a VO bug in direct touch that is 
causing the issue.  If this is indeed the case, I am confused.  In the 
Garageband app for IOS, direct touch works perfectly.  So, if it works for 
Garageband, why not fleksy?

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 On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Not yet, the Fleksy people are keen to ensure it's accessible, but there is a 
 bug in the current release of VoiceOver preventing this for now.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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 hello all,
 since the IOS8 can support third party keyboard.
 does fleksy keyboard work well with Voice Over?
 
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IOS 8 now available

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi list,

IOS 8 is now available for download in software update.

Thanks.

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Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think for the iPhone 6+ I understand the concern.  but the iPhone 6, the 4.7 
inch display, doesn't sound overly burdensome to me.  obviously, it depends on 
the clothes you normally wear, and how large or small your pockets are but, 
until you actually hold one, and try to put one in your pocket, how do you 
really know how it will effect your use of the device, lets keep in mind, for 
all the talk on how big it is, it's only .7 inches larger then a 5s on the 
diagonal.  So the phone is a little taller, and a little wider.  So unless your 
iPhone 5 or 5s barely fit in your pocket, the extra size probably won't be an 
issue.  An after all, I bet after 1 week of using such a device, it will become 
your new normal.  When you pick up a 5or 5S, you will start to find it 
absolutely tiny.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For me, this iPhone 6, or 6+ are a little bit  huge. I don't think that I
 will upgrade to those phones, are so big, and I am very active, and I don't
 feel so comfortable a mini iPad in my pocket, running every where. I am no
 so please with this last update, for me the iPhone 5s is already big, so an
 iPhone 6+ is too much. Really, it is not so nice for me, but I have no way
 to take a iPhone of that size in my pocket. I don't think that I will update
 my phone. Sadly, iI don't like those huge sizes.\
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked the
 screen on her 5. I would probably only upgrade any of the 4's.
 
 On 9/14/14, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 My sighted wife's got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses 
 her 64GB iPad Air for most things and uses the iPhone as would you 
 believe it? A phone... She does use other bar code scanning apps when 
 she's out and about, but for her needs, the phone is perfectly fine for
 her.
 
 That's another good thing about Apple, their devices hold up Spec wise 
 and value.
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s.  That was the difference 
 between night and day and made sense.  Going from a 5s to a iPhone 6 
 probably won't make as much sense but as was already said, because you 
 want to and you can afford it also works!
 
 
 
 At our house, it's my wife's turn to upgrade her old iPhone 4.  She 
 says she likes her 4 just fine because all she uses it for is a phone.  
 Fancy that. grin  She says she likes her iPad Air much better 
 for all the rest of it.  I was wrong again but that's nothing new! 
 grin
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 
 
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 
 
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
 formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
 listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:39 PM
 
 Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
 Hi Lori,
 
 
 
 First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8 preinstalled 
 as of next Wednesday.
 
 
 
 Will bugs disappear by January? Well, I sure hope so but of course 
 nobody can say for sure. I would say, however, that it is extremely 
 likely that the major bugs will be resolved by then. I really wouldn't 
 loose any sleep over that at this point. You also might want to ask 
 yourself whether upgrading from an iPhone 5 to the 6 or 6 Plus is 
 necessary for you. What problems do you have with your iPhone 5 which 
 require you to upgrade? If you just want to upgrade because you can 
 afford it and want the latest then that is of course a good enough 
 reason, but I think the next generation of the iPhone 6 whether it 
 will be called the 6S and 6S Plus or something else, will be much 
 improved as they will be the second generation of larger devices It 
 would be my guess that the touch screen might be completely made from 
 sapphire crystal and I really don't see how Apple will continue with 
 an 8 MP camera for the fifth year in a row, they will have to put in a 
 much better camera next year or people will get

Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

Who knows, maybe even a 6c?  That would make some sort of sense.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's still the 5s, which Apple is still making and manufacturing, so you 
 still have the choice of the smaller size phone. Maybe next year, when the 
 specs for the 6S or whatever next year's phone will be called, are a larger 
 delta from the 5s, they'll come out with a 6s Minus or something to keep a 
 phone with modern specs in the small screen size.
 
 On 09/15/2014 07:13 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I think for the iPhone 6+ I understand the concern.  but the iPhone 6, the 
 4.7 inch display, doesn't sound overly burdensome to me.  obviously, it 
 depends on the clothes you normally wear, and how large or small your 
 pockets are but, until you actually hold one, and try to put one in your 
 pocket, how do you really know how it will effect your use of the device, 
 lets keep in mind, for all the talk on how big it is, it's only .7 inches 
 larger then a 5s on the diagonal.  So the phone is a little taller, and a 
 little wider.  So unless your iPhone 5 or 5s barely fit in your pocket, the 
 extra size probably won't be an issue.  An after all, I bet after 1 week of 
 using such a device, it will become your new normal.  When you pick up a 5or 
 5S, you will start to find it absolutely tiny.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For me, this iPhone 6, or 6+ are a little bit  huge. I don't think that I
 will upgrade to those phones, are so big, and I am very active, and I don't
 feel so comfortable a mini iPad in my pocket, running every where. I am no
 so please with this last update, for me the iPhone 5s is already big, so an
 iPhone 6+ is too much. Really, it is not so nice for me, but I have no way
 to take a iPhone of that size in my pocket. I don't think that I will update
 my phone. Sadly, iI don't like those huge sizes.\
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked the
 screen on her 5. I would probably only upgrade any of the 4's.
 
 On 9/14/14, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 My sighted wife's got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses
 her 64GB iPad Air for most things and uses the iPhone as would you
 believe it? A phone... She does use other bar code scanning apps when
 she's out and about, but for her needs, the phone is perfectly fine for
 her.
 
 That's another good thing about Apple, their devices hold up Spec wise
 and value.
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
 I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s.  That was the difference
 between night and day and made sense.  Going from a 5s to a iPhone 6
 probably won't make as much sense but as was already said, because you
 want to and you can afford it also works!
 
 
 
 At our house, it's my wife's turn to upgrade her old iPhone 4.  She
 says she likes her 4 just fine because all she uses it for is a phone.
 Fancy that. grin  She says she likes her iPad Air much better
 for all the rest of it.  I was wrong again but that's nothing new!
 grin
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 
 
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 
 
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
 formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
 listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:39 PM
 
 Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
 Hi Lori,
 
 
 
 First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8 preinstalled
 as of next Wednesday.
 
 
 
 Will bugs disappear by January? Well, I sure hope so but of course
 nobody can say for sure. I would say, however, that it is extremely
 likely that the major bugs will be resolved by then. I really wouldn't
 loose any sleep over that at this point. You also might want to ask
 yourself whether upgrading from an iPhone 5 to the 6 or 6 Plus is
 necessary for you. What problems do

Re: Size: Does It Matter Apple iPhone 6/6+

[Ricardo Walker]

I was indeed referring just to the iPhone 6 in comparison to the 5c, 5, and 5S.

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Robin robin-mel...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I was under the presumption that both Apple's iPhones (Apple iPhone 5, Apple 
 iPhone 5C,  Apple iPhone 5S) were approximately 4 (A inches) and earlier 
 Apple iPhones (Apple iPhone 3GS, Apple iPhone 4,  Apple iPhone 4S) were 
 approximately 3.5 (3.5 inches), and the upcoming Apple iPhone 6 will be 
 approximately 4.7 (4.7 inches) and the Apple iPhone 6+ will be approximately 
 5.5 (5.5 inches). Am I right? If I'm right, the iPhone 6+ is More Than .7 
 (.7 inches) than any of the Apple iPhone 5/5C/5S unless you were referring to 
 the Apple iPhone 6 only.
 
 Just Sayin'
 
 I have CHANGED the Subject to reflect the content of this Thread since it 
 has apparently derailed from iOS8 Accessibility
 At 05:13 AM 9/15/2014, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I think for the iPhone 6+ I understand the concern.  but the iPhone 6, the 
 4.7 inch display, doesn't sound overly burdensome to me.  obviously, it 
 depends on the clothes you normally wear, and how large or small your 
 pockets are but, until you actually hold one, and try to put one in your 
 pocket, how do you really know how it will effect your use of the device, 
 lets keep in mind, for all the talk on how big it is, it's only .7 inches 
 larger then a 5s on the diagonal.  So the phone is a little taller, and a 
 little wider.  So unless your iPhone 5 or 5s barely fit in your pocket, the 
 extra size probably won't be an issue.  An after all, I bet after 1 week of 
 using such a device, it will become your new normal.  When you pick up a 5or 
 5S, you will start to find it absolutely tiny.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
  On Sep 15, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  For me, this iPhone 6, or 6+ are a little bit  huge. I don't think that I
  will upgrade to those phones, are so big, and I am very active, and I don't
  feel so comfortable a mini iPad in my pocket, running every where. I am no
  so please with this last update, for me the iPhone 5s is already big, so an
  iPhone 6+ is too much. Really, it is not so nice for me, but I have no way
  to take a iPhone of that size in my pocket. I don't think that I will 
  update
  my phone. Sadly, iI don't like those huge sizes.\
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  Of John Diakogeorgiou
  Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 2:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
  The only reason I am even considering upgrading is that my wife cracked the
  screen on her 5. I would probably only upgrade any of the 4's.
 
  On 9/14/14, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
  My sighted wife's got a 4S and is completely happy with it. She uses
  her 64GB iPad Air for most things and uses the iPhone as would you
  believe it? A phone... She does use other bar code scanning apps when
  she's out and about, but for her needs, the phone is perfectly fine for
  her.
 
  That's another good thing about Apple, their devices hold up Spec wise
  and value.
 
 
 
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:19 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
  I went from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 5s.  That was the difference
  between night and day and made sense.  Going from a 5s to a iPhone 6
  probably won't make as much sense but as was already said, because you
  want to and you can afford it also works!
 
 
 
  At our house, it's my wife's turn to upgrade her old iPhone 4.  She
  says she likes her 4 just fine because all she uses it for is a phone.
  Fancy that. grin  She says she likes her iPad Air much better
  for all the rest of it.  I was wrong again but that's nothing new!
  grin
 
 
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  Alan
 
 
 
  Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 
 
 
  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 
 
  Please click on:
  HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
  played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
  formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
  listening!
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:39 PM
 
  Subject: RE: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8
 
 
 
  Hi Lori,
 
 
 
  First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8 preinstalled

Re: New phone dimentions

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

no.  the iPhone 6 is the thinnest iPhone ever made. it's 69mm thick while the 
6+ is 71.  But both are thinner than the 5S.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If I remember correctly the 6 is thinner than the 5s and the 6+ is
 even thinner than the 6.
 
 On 9/15/14, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 What we fail to mention is the thickness of the phone. From my
 understanding, the 6 and 6+ should be thinner and perhaps litter than
 the 5 or 5s?
 
 On 16/09/2014, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was comparing it to lines of braille. I've posted the dimentions
 already as have a few others.
 
 On 9/11/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 What do you mean by lines?  In inches, what are the dimensions of the
 new
 
 phones compared, let's say, to an iPhone 5?  Thanks.
 
 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished,
 
 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message -
 From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:48 PM
 Subject: Re: New phone dimentions
 
 
 I apologize the 5s is about 6.25, the 6 is about 7 wide and the 6+ is
 about 8 lines wide.
 
 On 9/10/14, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Hey John,
 
 Are you saying that the 6 is longer but the same width as the 5S?
 That's
 what it sounds like
 In that case, I would say that the 6 is about 1 finger longer than the
 5S
 and the same width and the 6+ would be about 2 fingers longer and a
 comfortable 1 finger wider. Of course, it depends on the finger.
 
 
 Ron  Danvers
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New phone dimentions
 
 When I read the specs for the new phone sizes it didn't really mean
 much.
 
 I
 had my wife create pieces of cardboard which correspond to the three
 sizes
 of phones. That is the 5s, 6, and 6+. I thought that I would try to put
 it
 in a way which some may understand better. So what I did was compare
 the
 sizes to lines of braille (strange I know). I know that this won't help
 everyone but for those who work with braille, the  5s is 12.5 lines
 long
 and
 7 wide. The 6 is 14 long and 7 lines wide. The 5s is 16 long and 8
 lines
 wide.
 
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Re: Where did it come from?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice.  Where 
Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the 
consumer.  It's purely psychological in my opinion.  In many ways, being forced 
to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something 
taken away from you.  I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has 
little to know tangible effects.  But in general, I do think its bad form.  I'm 
actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this.

I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it 
on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue.  I figured the 
marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming.

Just my 2 cents. :)

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for  your room,
 but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you
 agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it
 perfectly OK for them to do this.
 Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact
 that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for
 you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases
 unless they are downloaded you will never even see it.
 OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's
 actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as
 pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your
 phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions
 of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Where did it come from?
 
 Hello Sieghard,  
 
 My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one.  
 
 You stated that if someone gave you a  free CD, you would accept it
 graciously. The key word here is accept.   No doubt that you would, as would
 I.  However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like :  You
 come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone
 broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first
 asking permission to enter your house.  It is not the free album that I and
 others object to but the way in which they delivered it.
 
 Mark
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Where did it come from?
 
 I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating
 statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong
 information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have
 iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that
 in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I
 definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my
 iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my
 phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to
 iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not
 take up a single Bite of space on my phone.
 
 I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a
 free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like
 U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If
 somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their
 head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the
 CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month
 this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Dan Beaver
 Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Where did it come from?
 
 I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being
 downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it
 to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes.
 
 I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements.
 
 Dan Beaver
 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Where did it come from?
 
 Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes.
 Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other

Re: iPhone6:

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

your friend is mistaken.  The home button is still there.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Can somebody please clarify this for me? Last night I got an email from a 
 friend asking how we will be doing things without the home button i.e.: will 
 there still be a way to start up voiceover the way we do with tripple click 
 home? But it had not come to my attention that there won't be a home button. 
 Is this true or is my friend mistaken?
 
 Thanks.
 
 -- 
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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
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Re: Question concerning NFL Audio Pass

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Am I correct in assuming that only Verizon customers have access to the 
broadcasts in this app?

Thanks.

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 On Aug 18, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 You have to tap on schedule.  That brings up a list of the games being 
 played.  they will show the game and the home team or the visitor.  you can 
 listen to either side of the ball.  I went back and listened to a bears game 
 but from the other side of the ball.  Very strange.  When the bears scored a 
 touch down their people were sad! LOL!
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! Move 
 out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:24 AM
 Subject: Question concerning NFL Audio Pass
 
 
 Hi listers,
 
 When using NFL Audio Pass on an IOS device, is there an easy way to get to it 
 and the broadcast you are wanting to listen to? Sometimes I find it with no 
 trouble, and then there are other times... ... ...
 
 And do you have to listen to the home team broadcast, or is there a way to 
 choose what you want to listen to? I'm a little tired of it kicking my 
 backside so thought I'd ask for assistance. Smile. TIA...and have a great 
 week!
 
 Ann
 
 
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Re: email opens in message, instead of inbox, using iPad air

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

If you hold the iPad in landscape, you will have a split screen with the 
message on the right side, and the inbox and back button on the left hand side.

But if you just prefer portrait mode, the back to inbox button is in the top 
left corner.

hth

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 On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:32 AM, curmudgeon 580 curmudgeon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 greeting all, iPad users
 hoping you guys can help
 trying to help a student use their iPad, I use iPhone, myself,
 when we go to email, it opens in a message instead of the inbox, and
 getting back to the back button, is confusing at best,
 wondering if there is a seeting I missed for email
 
 any help will be, greatly appreciated
 a curmudgeon, in calabasas
 
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Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Ricardo Walker]

Hmm,

I own an iPad mini and and iPhone, and I don't find using my iPad mini anymore 
difficult.  Just curious, in what way do you find the iPad mini more difficult 
to use?

Thanks.

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 On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 And iPad isn't really beneficial for totally blind person that uses 
 voiceover. Especially if that individual has an iPhone. The larger screen on 
 an iPad just makes things more complicated than using an iPhone or iTouch. 
 Clients always ask me this question. I always tell them an iPhone is the way 
 to go if you are totally blind as the larger screen makes things difficult.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The sad truth is that I hardly use my iPad at all. NB: this won't
 change when the next iPad is announced unless they shrink it down to
 the size of an iPhone which isn't going to happen for reasons that are
 hopefully obvious.
 
 I find browsing the internet to be more pleasurable on an iPad than it
 is on an iPhone as I'm into feeling the layout of pages, but I still
 use a computer for this sort of thing by default. Every now and again
 I'll be out and about for a few days  I'll be without a laptop which
 would be a good oppertunity for my iPad to shine, but I tend to take a
 bluetooth keyboard with me for these trips anyway, so the touch screen
 doesn't get that much use.
 
 I've purchased two iPads so far with the intent of finding a use for
 them, but for me at least, there isn't really a space in my life for a
 device that isn't a phone or a PC.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 7/28/14, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thought I'd help out by posting a relevant link on this iPhone vs iPad
 question; it is information regarding a similar question asked in the
 past--the information's source is from the ViPhone list archives:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/viphone/iPhone$20vs$20iPad
 
 The beauty of reading archived messages is that most of the follow-up
 questions you may have will most likely have previously been asked and
 answered, which means you don't have to ask the same question and wait for
 an answer as the answer is already available. Smile.
 
 Joseph
 
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Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I just came back from a trip to Las Vegas where I left my Macbook pro behind, 
and brought my iPad mini with me.  I have a logitech folio keyboard case for 
it.  I only use the keyboard when typing not so much for navigating.  This 
setup worked extremely well for me.  For starters, the battery life.  It was 
nice going 3 days on a single charge, and thats after hard use.  Video 
streaming, ebook reading, music streaming, web browsing, etc.  During that same 
time, I was recharging my iPhone sometimes twice a day.

As far as the gestures go, since the screen is larger, some might feel their 
gestures need to be larger as well.  This is definitely not the case. moving 
your finger left, right, up or down is more than enough to do the trick for 
navigating on an iPad. 

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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 On Jul 28, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi everyone. Long ago i had an IPad first generation and even an IPad 2nd 
 generation but we never became friends. Every time i tried to do a swiping 
 gesture, the ipad thought i wanted to go down a row or something. Now i’m not 
 good at going in totally streight lines so that may likely have caused this 
 issue, so i sold the pads. Now however i’m thinking of getting myself one of 
 these Mini retina thingimajigs, but i’m also thinking why would i want an 
 ipad in the first place, so that’s the question i ask you. What if anything 
 do you iphone and ipad owners use one device for and not the other? What 
 works better on a pad then on a phone or vice versa? Is a Mini really easier 
 to navigate than an Air or the like?
 Thanks for any answer.
 /Krister
 
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Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

using the example of settings, the larger display has 2 benefits in my opinion. 
 First, the display is split into 2 columns. On the left hand side, you have 
the primary categories found in settings.  Wifi, bluetooth, general, privacy, 
iCloud, etc.   This never changes.  Tapping on these categories instead of 
opening a new page like on devices with smaller screens, only the column on the 
right is changed to show the choices in the category you've selected.  So with 
this setup, you spend less time using the back button or gesture.  A small 
thing but, its very efficient and saves time.  Second, more options are 
displayed in a list.  I can run my finger down the left column in settings and 
have immediate access to more categories without swiping 3 fingers up to scroll 
up to display more items on the screen.

Ricardo Walker
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 On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa and other iPad owners,
 
 Since I'm having a problem understanding, will you please give me an example 
 as to how a bigger screen will help with scrolling? To be specific, please 
 give an example of a screen such as the Settings or General screen where a 
 larger screen will make navigation easier.
 
 thank you
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:17 AM
 Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs 
 iphone
 
 
 I'm seriously thinking of getting an iPad. I'm looking forward to utilizing 
 a larger screen that will display more information without having to scroll 
 as much. In my mind, it's similar to having greater screen resolution with a 
 screen-reader. There's more information available on a single screen at any 
 given time. However, I'm going to compromise and get a Mini with retina 
 display, which has the same processor as the iPad Air, but has a more 
 manageable screen size for me and costs $100 less. I don't see paying $100 
 US more just for more screen.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I also want to point out that there apps strictly for the iPad. Yes most 
 apps that one can use on an iPhone/iPod can be used on an iPad. But these 
 apps don't always display properly.
 
 I have found apps that I use on my iPhone to work more efficiently on the 
 iPad. One very good example of this is OCR apps.
 
 Just something to consider.
 
 Donna
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Shameless FanGirl 
 shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I've owned an iPad 2, 4, and now an Air. I'm also an iPhone user, am 
 totally blind, and the pad is my go-to device more often than not for my 
 daily communication/web browsing needs. I appreciate the iPad both for 
 the visually accurate representation of webpages, and for its larger 
 screen, requiring me to scroll less in areas such as settings. Maps is 
 another area wherein the larger screen is helpful for better visualizing 
 my surroundings, planning routes, etc. Granted, the larger screen isn't 
 going to be for everyone, but it is far from an impossibility. :)
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hmm,
 
 I own an iPad mini and and iPhone, and I don't find using my iPad mini 
 anymore difficult.  Just curious, in what way do you find the iPad mini 
 more difficult to use?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 And iPad isn't really beneficial for totally blind person that uses 
 voiceover. Especially if that individual has an iPhone. The larger 
 screen on an iPad just makes things more complicated than using an 
 iPhone or iTouch. Clients always ask me this question. I always tell 
 them an iPhone is the way to go if you are totally blind as the larger 
 screen makes things difficult.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The sad truth is that I hardly use my iPad at all. NB: this won't
 change when the next iPad is announced unless they shrink it down to
 the size of an iPhone which isn't going to happen for reasons that are
 hopefully obvious.
 
 I find browsing the internet to be more pleasurable on an iPad than it
 is on an iPhone as I'm into feeling the layout of pages, but I still
 use a computer for this sort of thing by default. Every now and again
 I'll be out and about for a few days  I'll be without a laptop which
 would be a good oppertunity for my iPad to shine, but I tend to take

Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs iphone

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

to each there own.  It really boils down to individual use cases and just 
personal preference.  In my case, I much rather lug my iPad mini around than my 
Macbook pro more times than not. :)

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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 On Jul 28, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Doesn't seem all that efficient if the experienced user can already do much 
 of this without a problem.
 
 For me, neither of these features trump the hassle of having to carry a much 
 bigger device as I find the iPod and iPhone a very good size to carry in 
 one's pocket leaving hands free for whatever else comes up. Smile. I also 
 really dislike the text entry interface and document reading interfaces of 
 iDevice apps, so I use my device as a small reference device rather than 
 trying to force it to play the role of a laptop or computer replacement. 
 Just my 2.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 8:39 AM
 Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs 
 iphone
 
 
 Hi,
 
 using the example of settings, the larger display has 2 benefits in my 
 opinion.  First, the display is split into 2 columns. On the left hand side, 
 you have the primary categories found in settings.  Wifi, bluetooth, 
 general, privacy, iCloud, etc.   This never changes.  Tapping on these 
 categories instead of opening a new page like on devices with smaller 
 screens, only the column on the right is changed to show the choices in the 
 category you've selected.  So with this setup, you spend less time using the 
 back button or gesture.  A small thing but, its very efficient and saves 
 time.  Second, more options are displayed in a list.  I can run my finger 
 down the left column in settings and have immediate access to more 
 categories without swiping 3 fingers up to scroll up to display more items 
 on the screen.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa and other iPad owners,
 
 Since I'm having a problem understanding, will you please give me an 
 example
 as to how a bigger screen will help with scrolling? To be specific, please
 give an example of a screen such as the Settings or General screen where a
 larger screen will make navigation easier.
 
 thank you
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:17 AM
 Subject: Re: This might seem like a strange question about ipad mini vs
 iphone
 
 
 I'm seriously thinking of getting an iPad. I'm looking forward to 
 utilizing
 a larger screen that will display more information without having to 
 scroll
 as much. In my mind, it's similar to having greater screen resolution with 
 a
 screen-reader. There's more information available on a single screen at 
 any
 given time. However, I'm going to compromise and get a Mini with retina
 display, which has the same processor as the iPad Air, but has a more
 manageable screen size for me and costs $100 less. I don't see paying $100
 US more just for more screen.
 
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I also want to point out that there apps strictly for the iPad. Yes most
 apps that one can use on an iPhone/iPod can be used on an iPad. But these
 apps don't always display properly.
 
 I have found apps that I use on my iPhone to work more efficiently on the
 iPad. One very good example of this is OCR apps.
 
 Just something to consider.
 
 Donna
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Shameless FanGirl
 shamelessfang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I've owned an iPad 2, 4, and now an Air. I'm also an iPhone user, am
 totally blind, and the pad is my go-to device more often than not for my
 daily communication/web browsing needs. I appreciate the iPad both for
 the visually accurate representation of webpages, and for its larger
 screen, requiring me to scroll less in areas such as settings. Maps is
 another area wherein the larger screen is helpful for better visualizing
 my surroundings, planning routes, etc. Granted, the larger screen isn't
 going to be for everyone, but it is far from an impossibility. :)
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hmm,
 
 I own an iPad mini and and iPhone, and I don't find using my iPad mini
 anymore difficult.  Just curious, in what way do you find the iPad mini
 more difficult to use?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jul 28, 2014

Re: Ipad mini question.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

It’s located at the same place as on iPhones.  It’s on the right hand edge when 
holding the iPad in portrait.

hth 

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

 On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It's somewhere at the back. I have the wifi only model.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 23/06/2014 15:48, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
 Hello chris anhd all,
 sorry I forgot to mention that I do have the wi-fi and celular model.
 Maria
 
 On 23. 6. 2014 16:47, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
 There isn't one unless you have the wifi and cellular model. Sorry for
 the obvious but this wasn't clear in your message.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 23/06/2014 15:26, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
 Hello list,
 please does anyone know where is sim card slot located on ipad mini?
 Thanks for help in advance.
 With kind regards
 Maria
 
 
 
 
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Revisiting cleaning apps for IOS

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello everyone,

A few weeks ago I remember coming across a thread talking about an app you can 
use to clean up some of the “other” files off your IOS device, freeing up some 
storage space.  For the life of me, I can’t remember the app being discussed.  
Could someone please refresh my memory or, tell me what they happen to be using 
for this task?

Thanks.

Ricardo Walker
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Re: AGoGo Question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

When listening to a show, pressing the now playing button brings up previous, 
next, and play.  Doing a double tap and hold on previous and next doesn't fast 
forward and rewind though.  You can only skip forward and back to other shows.  
But, there is sort of a work around for this.  From the lock screen, double 
tapping and holding on the previous and next buttons found there will indeed 
fast forward and rewind through shows.  Same thing if using the remote on a 
pair of headphones.

hth 

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On May 21, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 There don't seem to be any controls such as forward/rewind or jumping ahead
 or back by a particular time interval. I also have been looking for them and
 I think it would make the app a lot better if this would be there.
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:06 PM
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 Subject: AGoGo Question
 
 Is there any navigation control while listening to shows on Agogo? 
 
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Re: Renewing Instapaper subscription

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I'm guessing the subscription just auto renews.  This is why there is no option 
to do so, only to cancel.

hth

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On May 7, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello list,
  
 I'm sure this is a simple answer, but I haven't been able to figure it out. I 
 paid for a 3 month subscription to Instapaper to try it out and am now close 
 to the expiration date. I do like the service and want to continue using it, 
 but I can't seem to figure out how to expend my subscription.
 I've gone into the Instapaper app on my iPhone and go into the 
 settings/subscription section, but there doesn't seem to be a way to extend 
 my subscription. I'm only told how many days are left in my subscription 
 cycle. I've also gone to the website and under the subscription section 
 there, it only talks about canceling subscription.
  
 Any help would be appreciated.
  
 Thanks,
 
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Re: mac users list

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think somethings up with your subscription then.  That list generates about a 
hundred messages a day, easy.

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On Apr 25, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Steve Matzura number6...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you call that list active, then I don't know ... I subscribed to it
 a month ago and have not seen one single solitary message come through
 it.
 
 On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:24:26 -0400, you wrote:
 
 Macvisionaries is the go-to one, it seems. Email 
 macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. It is a manually-approved 
 subscription, so you'll have to wait a day or three for a mod to okay your 
 request, but then you'll be on and can email the list anytime.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Juan Hernandez juanhernande...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 What are some of the more current more active mac users lists?
 
 Best,
 
 
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 Access technology Specialist
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 858-452- Ext. 5020
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Re: Linked in question.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes, there is a linked in app.  The accessibility is terrible.  I mean truly 
atrocious.  Linkedin is basically a social network based  on careers and 
employment.  The more your network grows, the more access you have to other 
people.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 24, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hello list,
 please is there anyone using linked in?
 What is this network all about?
 Is there Linked in app available for iphone which is accessible for blind 
 users?
 If there is someone using this network, could you please tell me something 
 more about it?
 I created an account on there, but not sure how to use it.
 Thanks.
 With regards
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Re: A Bit Surprised That This Hasn't Made It To The List Yet

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

I totally agree.  Honestly, I think the majority of the outrage was a knee 
jerk reaction do to blind people usually getting the short end of the stick 
when things like this happen.  In this case, I think the folks at Fleksy made a 
good decision.  I think its something in the short term that benefits all 
involved.  Blind users still have a fully functional version of the app while 
they work the accessibility bugs out of the most current version. 

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On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is no discussion about price, since the app is free. And, I don't
 understand the concern over an app being made specifically for blind users
 if the feature set remains the same with both app options. At the point that
 the general app becomes significantly better than what blind users are being
 given, then I agree it is time to take to the web with all manner of hell,
 and I'll be right there with you adding my own fuel to the fire. Yet, I am
 glad the company chose to provide an alternative rather than leave out blind
 users altogether. There is no rule commanding all apps to work for all
 people as a large percentage of apps in the App Store can testify. Perhaps
 we forget that even with Apple, we are not enjoying 100% of the user
 experience because we need special accommodations to make as much of the
 experience usable.
 
 I don't understand the relevance about products we continue to pay thousands
 of dollars for, except perhaps to remind ourselves that it is nice that
 these aps generally cost a fraction of those products. If anyone has told us
 to sit down and be quiet, it is the same manufacturers of those traditional
 products, and yet, we somehow find it in our hearts to give them a pass
 because we are a smaller market, because their teams are limited, any number
 of reasons. HIMS only recently found it appropriate to admit there is a
 problem with their Braille displays. Never mind the consumers whose products
 have now gone out of warranty. Contrast this to each mainstream app
 developer that has fallen victim to the sharp edge of our complaints. They
 at least have been responsive.
 
 Perhaps the unspoken truth is that many of us do not actually pay for those
 traditionally expensive options. When the money actually comes out of our
 own pockets, like the few dollars for Tap Tap See, we feel justified in
 screaming. Welcome to the rest of the world. Believe it or not, this is what
 it is like to be part of society. At what point did we move from a feeling
 of entitlement to a feeling of spoiled brats. After all, is it not the point
 to push for equal access so we can get the job done? Because by the sounds
 of it, it's more important that we drive the same shiny new car. Let's not
 be so hasty in forgetting that there was a point in the not so distant past
 that we didn't even have a technological vehicle to call our own. We're an
 important segment of the market to be sure. I'd rather work with my peers as
 a classy and respectable member of that market than a petulant whiner who
 didn't get their way, right away.
 
 Having read this, perhaps it will be your feeling that I am just plum stupid
 and playing some Uncle Tom to the sighted public. On the contrary, I think
 our transition to the rest of society is going to be more jarring than some
 of us may expect, because with all of the special accessibility features and
 third party manufacturers stripped away, the accountability, including
 payments, is going to rest solely on us. I don't think some of us are truly
 ready to be treated equally.
 
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 Of denise avant
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 2:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Bit Surprised That This Hasn't Made It To The List Yet
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am not a Fleksy user. However, each time an app changes or a blind person
 questions the price of an app, some in the blindness community take the
 position that blind people don't want to pay for anything or want everything
 our way. I recall that during Black Friday, many customers at the big box
 stores complained that they were not getting a deal. A blind person has just
 as much right to question the validity of a price as a sighted person would.
 He has as much right to wonder if it is really necessary that an app is
 being made especially for the blind community.
 It is true that many of us do not know what it takes to be a developer. We
 are simply end users of a product. This is true for anyone using technology.
 
 Also, we in the blind community have paid thousands of dollars for
 notetakers (PDAs), while our sighted counterparts paid a couple hundred. and
 we did this for years, and probably still do it. So

Re: iOS7.0.6

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think that will be just fine.  If I was a betting man, I would say the 
majority of people don't wait for their device to die before charging it.

hth

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On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 would it be safe to charge the iPad mini mid cycle? The reason is I cannot 
 update at this time as it's below 50%. Thanks!
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 21/02/2014 20:55, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 I'm downloading it now. It looks like it's an SSL security update, so I'd be 
 surprised if there are any changes in VO. Since it's a security update, I'm 
 thinking it's probably important in any case.
 
 teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No but I sure haven't, is there issue?
 
 Joseph Hudson
 I device support
 Phone
 641-715-3900 ex 34315
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Sorry every one the update is iOS 7.0.6. Have you all updated to it.
 
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Re: Using an iPhone without a Case

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think it's pretty difficult to not have any minor scratches on an iPhone 5 , 
especially the black models.  The anodized aluminum just scratches easily.  For 
me, the main reason I put my phone in a case is to maintain its value.  I'm 
ultra careful with my phone but, for most, I don't think just being careful is 
good enough.  At least, not if they want their phone looking like it did when 
they first opened the box.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 4, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I use my iPhone without a case. I've never had a case for this phone and it 
 appears to be just fine with no scratches or visible damage.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:56 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I chose not to place my last smart phone in a case, and I didn't have my 
 iPhone in a case for it's first two years. I've recently put a bumper around 
 it, which is very minimalistic, and I did it as much to give it some 
 grippability as I did to protect it. I also got the bumper as a gift, and 
 I'm not sure if I would have gotten it for myself.
 
 In the twelve or so years I've carried a smart phone, I've only dropped them 
 a few times, and only once did I cause any cosmetic damage to the phone. I'm 
 pretty good at keeping them in pockets or compartments  by themselves or 
 only with objects that aren't going to damage them, like ear buds. I don't 
 keep them in the same pocket with my keys, coins or pocket knife for example.
 
 Smart phones are made to be pretty durable, and obviously, they're meant to 
 be pretty thin and sleek. I just knew I took relatively good care of my 
 phones, and I realized I was placing this very elegant device in a pretty 
 cheap plastic or leather case. I just made the conscious decision that I 
 paid a lot for this phone, and I wanted to enjoy it and not a $20 case.
 
 I'm not criticizing anyone who chooses to use a case for their phone. My 
 wife is a very different person, and she views her phone as a tool, like a 
 pen. She doesn't want to have to worry about it, and she wants to be able to 
 just toss it into her purse or any pocket that's handy. For this reason, she 
 has a Otter Box case for it.
 
 On 02/04/2014 06:13 AM, Craig Werner wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 The reasons for putting an iPhone in a protectivecase are very good
 ones, and I don't want to devalue them.  However, the iPhone without a
 case is certainly a more compact an sleek unit.  I'd be interested to
 hear from anyone who has chosen not to use a case.  What protective
 measures do you take with your phone?  For instance, do you put in a
 pocket or purse compartment that no other item occupies?  Do you try
 to avoid using it in crowded areas where the chances of its being
 dropped are increased?
 
 Thank you.
 
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Re: I LOST MY NATIVE WEATHER!!!

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Hi,

you can ask siri to open the weather app as well.  But like previously 
suggested, using spotlight search is the best way to go here.

hth

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On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone;
 
 As the subject line says I lost my native weather app.
 
 I searched my folders and, it's nowhere to be found.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance
 Anthony 
 
 
 Sent from my T-Mobile iPhone 5s!
 
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Question about sending an e-mail to a group in IOS

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Hello list,

I have a few groups set up in my contacts.  When I try to send an e-mail using 
a group in IOS, I'm not able to do so.  I figured it would just be as easy as 
putting the cursor in the TO field, start typing the name of my group, 
selecting it from the auto complete options, and send my message.  But, the 
group never comes up in auto complete suggestions.

Help with this would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: does itunes card work for payment for subscriptions as well?

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Hi,

This isn’t necessarily true.  In app purchases are also charged to your method 
of payment associated with your Apple ID.  So for example, if the app you have 
requires a subscription, and one of the options to purchase a subscription is 
via an in app purchase like MLB at bat for example, your card will be charged 
thats associated with your iTunes account.

hth 

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On Jan 8, 2014, at 11:41 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 The iTunes card is only for purchasing apps music tv shows and movies.
 On Jan 8, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tarapprakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Raul and all. Can you use this card to pay for services like hulu? Or 
 is the itunes card only for purchasing apps?
 AÅÅ
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 
 Hi, first off let me say that I have only been using the Seeing Eye GPS app 
 from Sendero for several days. The first thing I noticed was how easy it is 
 to use. Virtually nothing needs to be set up and configured with it. It 
 speaks the necessary information about street crossings as you walk. If you 
 are riding in a vehicle and are going relatively fast, then the 
 intersections are suppressed. If you are in a route, it clearly gives turn 
 by turn information and it's very easy to figure out what it means.
 
 I'm still not sure if I will continue using it as my primary gps source 
 however, but this isn't through any fault of the app. Prior to trying out 
 this app, I usually use a combination of BlindSquare or Ariadne to know 
 where I am at a given point and Google Maps or MapQuest or Apple Maps for 
 turn by turn directions. Along with those apps, Hop Stop for bus 
 information and Metro Trip for my local bus information. Yes, this is a 
 combination of multiple apps. However quite often I don't need to use more 
 than one at a time. If I'm walking somewhere to get from point A to point B 
 usually Ariadne or BlindSquare is used. I'm not in situations where I need 
 walking directions to get somewhere because usually when I go somewhere 
 I've already got the directions down and I just use non-technical 
 orientation and mobility skills to find what I'm looking for. In a case 
 where a building might need to be found, then Ariadne or BlindSquare is 
 good about telling me what address range I'm in to make sure I'm in the 
 right area. For times when I'm riding in a vehicle, Google Maps is the 
 preferred choice app because its directions are spot on, and because the 
 app gives the necessary information in such a way that both me and my 
 sighted driver can use the information. If I were to rely only on Seeing 
 Eye GPS for driving directions, then I couldn't easily share it with my 
 driver because in most cases I would have to turn down the speech rate  of 
 Voice Over and on top of that, it's text only and most sighted people like 
 the visual map elements.
 
 Don't get me wrong, I think this app is great and I still feel that for 
 many people it will be better than the alternative apps mentioned above. As 
 a technology trainer myself I will be more than happy to recommend this to 
 some of my clients who might benefit from it. However for me personally I 
 don't think it will be my primary gps app of choice. The one thing which I 
 really like, and like a lot, is its feature of telling you when a street is 
 coming up and if it's a street which spans left and right, or only left or 
 only right.
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 1/5/2014 2:28 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 Raul, I think you are one of those who knows how to cobble together the
 several apps to get the same information as the Seeing Eye app gives you in
 one app.  I have never used it, the following statement is just what I
 gather from reading.I gather that its main plus is that the information one
 must glean from several apps can be gained using only one app, its
 simplicity to use, and its battery conservation, as compared to running
 several apps at once.For those not so good at using an iPhone as are you,
 this simplicity would be worth the subscription.  Now that you have
 actually used it some, I am curious to know how
 you like it?
 
 Thanks for your opinion.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 
 - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos
 r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 12:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS adds monthly subscription
 
 
 Hi, it's true that paying per month gets very expensive, but it has the
 huge advantage that it only costs you $10 to find out if the program will
 really work for you and if it doesn't, then you are only out that one
 amount. Also, if you don't travel much and only need it occasionally, you
 could pay for those times you will need it, assuming of course that you
 will need it less than 6 or 7

Re: Any ideas of the timeframe for new iPod Touch?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

if the trend holds true, we probably won’t see a new iPad touch until the 
announcement of the new iPhone.  So figure some time in late summer, early fall.

hth

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On Jan 8, 2014, at 11:16 AM, Robin Christopherson 
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 Dear listers
  
 It’s my daughter’s birthday coming up at the beginning of Feb and I was 
 wondering if anyone had any idea when new iPod Touches were due. I’d hate to 
 get it and the next day a new gen pops up., Reports of any rumblings at all 
 would be gratefully received.
  
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Re: Question on lock screen

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Hi,

yes.  A 3 finger flick right will unlock.

hth

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On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:

 When I push the home button then the lock screen is there and you have to 
 double tap on the unlock button.  Is there a way to use a gesture to unlock 
 the lock screen?
  
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Re: why an ipad mini?

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Hi,

I love my iPad mini.  For me, it more has replaced my Macbook pro than my 
iPhone.  Especially for media consumption, and when on the go.  Its just easier 
to throw my iPad into my bag then my 4 pound Macbook.  I have a keyboard case 
so, I don’t feel like I’m loosing much functionality.  I also have a cellular 
model.  In comparison to my iPhone, I find myself reaching for my iPad to 
listen to audiobooks movies, and youtube more than I do my iPhone do to the 
better speakers.  Same goes for listening to music, although I pair my JBL flip 
bluetooth speaker for that generally.  And the battery life is a big factor 
too.  I can go 3 days easy even when using my iPad mini retina hard.  If I’m 
careful, I’ve gotten as much as 7 days on a single charge.

The iPad is one of those things when you get one, you all of a sudden find uses 
for it that never entered your mind prior. lol.  As far as apps, I do find some 
apps much easier to use on an iPad like Mail and messages for example.

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On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I'm going to get an iPad air.  I'm looking forward to exploring it's ins and 
 outs.
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Alan
  
 All the best of wishes to you and yours in 2014!
  
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
  
 Please click on: 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 - Original Message -
 From: Crystal French
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 1:05 PM
 Subject: why an ipad mini?
 
 Hi,
 I’ve been reading the comments on the ipad mini.
  
 I have an iPhone 5s now.
  
 I’ve thought about getting an ipad, but wonder if those of you who use an 
 ipad find it more useful in some ways than the iphone?
  
 Do you, say, find it better for reading books?
  
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Re: getting a book off my phone onto the computer

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Hi,

In the iTunes sources table, arrow down to your iPhone.  Then VO right arrow 
over to the books button, and interact with the scroll area.  In there, make 
sure you have sync books/audiobooks checked.

hth

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On Dec 30, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Andrew Head ath...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi all,
 My sister sent me an audio book as a gift for christmas via itunes. I 
 downloaded the book to my phone and want it on my computer. when I synced my 
 phone with my computer, the book didn’t come across. I just plugged my phone 
 in, opened itunes and pressed the sync button. I’m using an iphone 5 and a 
 macbook air. the iphone is running the latest software, while the mac is not, 
 will update tonight but if anyone can offer any suggestions, to get the book 
 from my phone and onto the computer, that would be great. 
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Re: accessible fitness tracker or iOS app for a stationary bike

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Hello,

I was just wondering, would it be possible to use an app like Prizmo for 
example to read the display of the bike?

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On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Brett brettst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I am not aware of a specific app for a stationary bike, but something 
 probably does exist. 
 
 Since iTreadmill doesn't track distance correctly, I have switched to Pacer. 
 I just put the phone in my pocket while riding. I use Ultratrainer so I can 
 follow the same 2 or 3 programs when on the bike. At the end of the program, 
 I can look at pacer to get an idea of the distance I have done. The distance 
 may not be correct with that on the bike, since Pacer assumes I am walking, 
 but at least I have a distance measurement that I can compare with previous 
 rides. 
 
 Hope this helps, 
 Brett.
 
 
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 On 31 Dec 2013, at 1:34 pm, Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello list,
  
 So I’ve got a recumbent exercise bike and while a lot of the features aren’t 
 accessible to me, I use it fine through the manual quickstart setting and 
 adjust tention as I go. My sighted wife when she’s around will give me the 
 rundown on distance, heart rate and whatnot, but if she’s not around, then 
 I’m clueless as to what my progress is. The best I can do is use the stop 
 watch on my iPhone to measure my time.
  
 In any event, I was wondering if anyone knew of a fitness tracking device 
 that will indeed work with stationary bikes or at least an app such as 
 i-treadmill for walking with the iPhone? I’ve poked around online, and from 
 what I’ve found, the FitBit forums aren’t very encouraging as to the 
 feasibility of trying out one of those devices with a stationary bike. Some 
 folks talk about clipping it on to their shoe and getting so-so results that 
 way, but I’m not convinced. That and the whole accessibility issue with the 
 device or its associated iPhone app.
 I can’t recall fitness trackers being discussed too much on this list either.
 Anyway, I just thought I’d ask if anyone is using any sort of app on their 
 phone that can track stationary bike usage or of there is in fact an 
 accessible fitness tracker out there that could accomplish this.
  
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Re: Itunes and which encoder

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Hi,

I think ripping music with iTunes is fairly painless.  I usually use AAC at 128 
or 256kbps.  Smaller file size for same kbps when compared to using mp3 I’ve 
found.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Dec 28, 2013, at 4:09 AM, Brian Albriton autoharp...@gmail.com wrote:

 What are all your thoughts on ripping music with itunes and what file
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Re: Itunes and which encoder

[Ricardo Walker]

I couldn’t disagree more.  Maybe that would have held wait 4 years ago when 
music bought from iTunes was DMA protected, or further back before iTunes was 
the number 1 seller for music in the world but now?  No way.

What major digital music player, or software doesn’t play AAC?  I mean, Android 
plays AAC, Windows phone plays AAC, blackberry plays AAC, windows media player, 
and on and on.  So, how exactly does using AAC lock you into using 1 company’s 
products to play music?


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On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Harry Bell ubupanora...@icloud.com wrote:

 I use mp3 rather than Apple aac because aac locks us forever into using Apple 
 products to play the music. I know it is heresy to even think of going with 
 any other company...
 
 
 
 On 28 Dec 2013, at 11:59, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I think ripping music with iTunes is fairly painless.  I usually use AAC at 
 128 or 256kbps.  Smaller file size for same kbps when compared to using mp3 
 I’ve found.  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
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 On Dec 28, 2013, at 4:09 AM, Brian Albriton autoharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What are all your thoughts on ripping music with itunes and what file
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Re: bluetooth questions

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Hi,

You need to either erase the profile for your BT keyboard from your iPhone, or 
turn bluetooth off on your iPhone in order to connect the keyboard to your iPad.

I’m not sure what you mean by your second question.  What is preventing you 
from pairing your bt headphones to your iPhone and the keyboard to your iPad 
simultaneously?  I mean, there to different bluetooth devices, connecting to 2 
different pieces of hardware.

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On Dec 26, 2013, at 7:47 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have a couple of bluetooth related questions.
 first, I have a bluetooth keyboard and an iphone and ipad. Often, my phone 
 will be in a locked position, but the bluetooth keyboard will connect to the 
 phone rather than the ipad, which is what I want. it does not matter how far 
 away the phone is, it just seems that the keyboard automatically connects to 
 it, rather than the ipad. the bluetooth on the ipad is on.
 also, i would like to connect my ear piece to my iphone and the keyboard to 
 the ipad simultaneously. Is there any real way to do this? thanks.
 
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Re: iPhone 5c opinion

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Hello. Lol,

I agree with the first half, but not with the 2nd so much.  People buy what 
they can afford.  Depending on where you live, and your personal economic 
conditions, what you or I might consider to be a measly difference in price, 
might be a couple months pay to someone.  Since this is very much an 
international list, I think we should keep that in mind when we call hundreds 
of dollars measly.  And some people honestly don’t need nor want the latest and 
greatest.  From 2010 to 2012 I’ve gotten the latest iPhone.  The 4, 4S, and the 
5.  This year I have decided to hold off.  Yes, the touch ID is really 
convenient, and the phone has a certain level of future proof with its new 64 
bit processor, but using the iPhone 5 and 5s side by side, I honestly didn’t 
think there was a world of difference.  I mean, on average apps might have 
launched half a second faster.  If a person is looking to upgrade, I believe in 
getting the best you can afford when it comes to mobile tech.  Especially if 
your using a screen reader.  But for the average user, your not going to see a 
really big difference between a 5C and a 5s from a real world usage point of 
view when touch ID is taken out of the equation.

JMO.

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On Dec 25, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is last year's technology being sold today.  It is inconceivable
 why folks would pass up the 5S that prepares them for the needs of
 tomorrow for a measly price break on the 5C.  Save up a few pennies
 and get the latest tech.
 
 Kelly
 
 On 12/24/13, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Well I can tell that the five or should I say that iPhone five is better
 performance wise then the 4s  and the 5C is similar to the five if not the
 same hardware.
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Aruni Sharma aruni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi listers what is your opinion about 5c?
 
 Thanks and regards
 Aruni SharmaAsst. prof. JNPG College
 
 Lucknow
 Sent from my iPod
 Connect with me:
 skype: aruni_sharma
 facebook; arunisharma
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Re: Minimac emergency questions, OT

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

the group site for macvisionaries is 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.  Just a quick FYI, its called a 
Mac Mini. :).  No, windows and applications do not need to be closed before 
shutting down a Mac.  Actually, there is a setting were you can have your Mac 
reopen opened windows and apps after a restart.  But to close a window, press 
command W.  To Close an app, press command Q.  As far as accessing content on 
the web, you need to navigate to the html content area, and interact.  
Interacting is done with control option, shift, and the down arrow pressed at 
the same time.  One thing, Mac minis work best with Voiceover when attached to 
a monitor or television.  I’m not sure if you were aware of this or not.  You 
can find a lot of getting started podcasts from vision Australia at 
http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-independently/using-technology-and-computers/help-yourself!-technology-podcasts-and-resources/computer-access.

hth

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On Dec 25, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know this is totally off topic. I wrote to Raul privately thinking I had a 
 few weeks to answer my questions and help with group site. However, my 
 brother and sister-in-law bought me a Minimac. What is the address to 
 MacVissionaries,, and where are there some very, very basic 
 tutorials/podcasts? Just so I know. Does anyone know if the Mac need to have 
 all windows closed before shutting down, and if so, how do I close windows 
 and apps? I have been through the on-screen tutorial, which is awesome, but I 
 think I misunderstood something or I am doing the wrong command. I also 
 cannot get from the toolbar in Safari to the webpage with the links or I 
 could access applevis. I was on the site but could not interact with it. 
 Anyone with emergency help? Thanks in advance ever so much. I never saw this 
 coming! Total and oh so sweet surprise!! 
 
 
 
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Re: how to delete all emails at once instead of selecting 1 at a time

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Nope.  There is no way.  This is a feature that I’ve wanted Apple to add to IOS 
for years now.  Since IOS 3 to be exact. hahaha.  It seems like such a basic 
feature in a Mail application, I wonder why Apple chooses to leave it out.

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On Dec 24, 2013, at 6:08 PM, doug oliver oliver.do...@icloud.com wrote:

 Question for everyone. Is there a way to tell the iphone to select all the 
 emails and do a mass delete? Thanks for any help that can be provided with 
 this,
 Doug
 
 
 Email: doli...@emissives.com
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Re: Location tracking and Google now

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Mary,

you can go into settings/privacy/location services and disable the use of 
locations with the google now app.

hth

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On Dec 21, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I finally got around to activating Google now on my iPhone. Much to my 
 surprise, even with the app removed from the app switcher, location tracking 
 is still on. This remains true even after a reboot. Why is this, and how can 
 I stop it? Not amused.
 Mary
 
 
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Re: about apple tv

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Wow!  Honestly, what purpose does such a post serve?  It sounds like something 
a teenager would say.  SMH. Antagonize much?

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On Dec 17, 2013, at 7:25 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pablo I would highly recommend you stay away from it. Remember it's an
 Apple Voice Over product and you know how much you hate the way they
 function.
 
 On 12/15/13, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 If you want complete accessibility, unfortunately the only two ways to
 go are Apple TV or a dedicated media center PC connected directly to
 the TV. The Apple TV works best for people who subscribe to the Apple
 ecosystem as you have noticed and the dedicated computer approach is
 over kill for most people.
 
 I upgraded the hard drive in an old netbook and repurposed it as an
 iTunes server; it sits in our atic serving content to the Apple TV and
 also runs a DLNA server for some other devices. I'm not a fan of the
 approach that Apple have taken with the Apple TV but I have to admit
 my setup generally works pretty well.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 12/15/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmmm, it is not that I want. Is another device that allows me to connect
 to
 
 my computer via wifi and that allows me to play  the content that I have
 in
 
 my hard drive?
 - Original Message -
 From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: about apple tv
 
 
 Hi,
 
 That's correct; unfortunately the format has to be one that iTunes can
 work with.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 12/15/13, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, if I have my computer sharing on iTunes. But it means that the
 movie
 format should be supported by apple?
 Like mov, mp4, but it doesn't work for avi, or mpg?
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tom Rash
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:01 PM
  Subject: RE: about apple tv
 
 
  The accessibility is great.  With voice over you can read the items
 on
 
 the
 screen, search and play in youtube, Etc.  If you subscribe to
 Netflicks,
 
 you
 can read about movies, rate them or put them in your favorites to view
 later, Etc.
  As far as watching movies from your computer, if you have computer
 sharing
 on in iTunes, you should be able to watch those videos.
 
 
 
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 Behalf
 Of Pablo Morales
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:37 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: about apple tv
 
 
  Hi all.
  Yesterday I  was talking to some one about the apple tv. I understood
 that
 it is a device that allow my tv to be connected to the wifi network in
 my
 home. But I have some questions about it.
  1. If I have movies or videos stored in my computer, for example old
 movies. With this device I am able to play the videos stored in my
 computer
 on my TV?
  2. Is possible to play internet videos, like youtube, or just movies
 from
 internet on my tv?
  3. this device has voice over? how is the accessibility?
  Thanks in advance.
  Pablo
 
 
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Re: Selecting a different From address when sending an email

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

It’s still working for me but, the behavior has changed a little bit.  So after 
you double tap the From section, the picker is actually displayed after the 
message body field.  You need to manually place focus to it by touching near 
the bottom of the screen or, flick right to after the message body field.

hth

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On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello List,
  
 I have 3 email accounts set up on my iPhone and my business email is set as 
 my default. I used to be able to double tap on the ”From” field in the 
 message header when I was composing an email and then if I swiped past the 
 Subject field I found a picker control where I could swipe up or down to 
 select one of my other accounts to send from.
  
 I don’t think this is working any more and was wondering if others who have 
 more than one account have noticed this or can confirm this. I will ask one 
 of my employees who has an iPhone to test this without Voiceover and tell me 
 how he does it, but I thought I put this out here. If it indeed works without 
 Voiceover and not with Voiceover I hope some others will join me in writing 
 to accessibil...@apple.com to make them aware of this and hopefully it will 
 be fixed down the road.
 For now I just have to make sure I am in the account I want to send from 
 before I tap Compose, but where this doesn’t work is if you initiate an email 
 from elsewhere maybe through a Share option because then it will always use 
 your default account to send from.
  
  
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Re: App that will notify you when you get close to a point of interest while running in the background?

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Hi,

Or Ariadne.

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On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds like Blindsquare is your app. You can set up trigger distances for 
 POIs, so you'll be alerted when you get within your set distance. I am not a 
 user of the app personally, just so you are aware.
 On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’m looking for an app that will run in the background and alert me when I 
 am getting close to a point of interest I have plotted such as a bus stop. 
 I’ve seen suggestions for geo alert but this app hasn’t been updated in 
 three years so would like something that is actively maintained.
 
 
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Re: Sirie is not finding a contact

[Ricardo Walker]

Yup,

I’m seeing this as well. contacts that Siri would be able to find to call and 
text with no problem, it’s now unable to find.

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On Dec 1, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

 I too am having issues with seri finding one contact, its weird he will text 
 her but won't call her. he says its not in my address book, and also I have 
 only had this issue with this latest update.
 
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Re: timer on BARD

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Hi,

I guess this really depends.  For example, if I want to reset the timer, I just 
use Siri.  So lets say I originally set my timer for 30 minutes.  I’m fading 
fast and want to change the timer to 10 minutes.  I bring up Siri and say, 
“change timer to 10 minutes.”  That’s it, I’m done.

hth

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On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not a new user but would prefer that the BARD app have its own timer,.
 Easier to reset if the original time turns out to be too short.  Easier to
 manipulate from within the app.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: timer on BARD
 
 Hi, for what it's worth, using the timer from the iPhone's own clock is a
 pretty nifty idea. However for the beginner user I can see where this might
 present a problem. Apps like Audible for example have their own sleep timer
 feature and I hope that the BARD Mobile app will as well in the near future.
 Maybe they can even make the sleep timer button visually resemble a moon
 just like the physical player. smile.
 
 --
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 I was going to tell a sodium and hydrogen pun, but NaH. - Sheldon Cooper
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 11/22/2013 1:55 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 Double tap the When timer ends control. On the next page, go to the 
 bottom and double tap Stop playing. You'll hear a beep and VoiceOver 
 will repeat Stop playing. Now double tap the Set button at the top 
 of the screen, and you'll see that where it says When timer ends, it 
 now says Stop playing next to it.
 
 To set the timer in the Timer tab, you'll see two controls at the top 
 of the screen. The first will say something like 0 hours, picker 
 item, adjustable after a pause, you'll then hear swipe up or down to 
 adjust. The second control will say something like 18 minutes, 
 picker item, adjustable. To set the timer, flick left or right to get 
 to one of those controls. Once you're on one of those controls, flick 
 up or down to change the setting. Once you have the hours and minutes 
 set to what you want, swipe right a few times and double tap on the start
 button.
 
 
 
 On 11/22/2013 01:36 PM, Pinky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I go to the timer tab and then I go to the bottom where VO says 
 stop playing  and I double tap on that it doesn't say anything.  How 
 do I know I have stop playing selected?  When I tried selecting it 
 and set the timer the alarm just went off until I hit ok. So what am 
 I doing wrong here to get the Bard book to stop playing?
 
 Also how do I set the timer.  I know I can set it with Siri.  I would 
 like to know how to set it when I am on the timer tab.  It says 
 something about sliding my finger to set it but that isn't working 
 for me.  What am I doing wrong?
 
 Ed
 
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Christopher Chaltain
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:54 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: timer on BARD
 
 Have you taken a look at the Timer tab in the Clock app yet?
 
 The timer goes off when the time is up, so you can start the timer 
 before or after you start reading the book.
 
 In the Timer tab, you use a few picker items to set how much time you 
 want to tick off, like 15 or 30 minutes. You then double tap on the 
 what you want to happen button and select stop playing from the 
 bottom of the list. It's below all of the alarm tones you can choose. 
 Once you've done that, you just double tap the start button and the 
 timer starts counting down.
 
 If it were me, I'd start the timer and then start the book reading, 
 so you don't have to deal with the VO and the timer settings while 
 the book is being read.
 
 On 11/21/2013 06:28 PM, Pinky wrote:
 
So do you start the book reading then go to the When timer ends.
Then click stop playing . Then does it give you times to choose
from to stop it from  playing?
 
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Chaltain
*Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:51 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: timer on BARD
 
Use the Timer tab in the clock app. The Clock app should be on your
home pages, and it's also in the Control Center. Double tap on When
timer ends and choose Stop playing at the bottom of the list.
 
On 11/21/2013 01:24 PM, Pinky wrote:
 
Hi,
 
I know there is no timer on the BARD app.  Can someone tell me
how to use or set the timer using IOS.  I know from reading
other post on this list that it was told that you had to use the
timer on the IOS device as the sleep

Re: timer on BARD

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Say “ set a timer for 60 minutes”.

hth

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On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 How would you use Siri to set a timer for example, 1 hour?  What would I say?
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! Move 
 out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:05 AM
 Subject: Re: timer on BARD
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I guess this really depends.  For example, if I want to reset the timer, I 
 just use Siri.  So lets say I originally set my timer for 30 minutes.  I’m 
 fading fast and want to change the timer to 10 minutes.  I bring up Siri and 
 say, “change timer to 10 minutes.”  That’s it, I’m done.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am not a new user but would prefer that the BARD app have its own timer,.
 Easier to reset if the original time turns out to be too short.  Easier to
 manipulate from within the app.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: timer on BARD
 
 Hi, for what it's worth, using the timer from the iPhone's own clock is a
 pretty nifty idea. However for the beginner user I can see where this might
 present a problem. Apps like Audible for example have their own sleep timer
 feature and I hope that the BARD Mobile app will as well in the near future.
 Maybe they can even make the sleep timer button visually resemble a moon
 just like the physical player. smile.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 I was going to tell a sodium and hydrogen pun, but NaH. - Sheldon Cooper
 Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
 
 On 11/22/2013 1:55 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 Double tap the When timer ends control. On the next page, go to the
 bottom and double tap Stop playing. You'll hear a beep and VoiceOver
 will repeat Stop playing. Now double tap the Set button at the top
 of the screen, and you'll see that where it says When timer ends, it
 now says Stop playing next to it.
 
 To set the timer in the Timer tab, you'll see two controls at the top
 of the screen. The first will say something like 0 hours, picker
 item, adjustable after a pause, you'll then hear swipe up or down to
 adjust. The second control will say something like 18 minutes,
 picker item, adjustable. To set the timer, flick left or right to get
 to one of those controls. Once you're on one of those controls, flick
 up or down to change the setting. Once you have the hours and minutes
 set to what you want, swipe right a few times and double tap on the start
 button.
 
 
 
 On 11/22/2013 01:36 PM, Pinky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I go to the timer tab and then I go to the bottom where VO says
 stop playing  and I double tap on that it doesn't say anything.  How
 do I know I have stop playing selected?  When I tried selecting it
 and set the timer the alarm just went off until I hit ok. So what am
 I doing wrong here to get the Bard book to stop playing?
 
 Also how do I set the timer.  I know I can set it with Siri.  I would
 like to know how to set it when I am on the timer tab.  It says
 something about sliding my finger to set it but that isn't working
 for me.  What am I doing wrong?
 
 Ed
 
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Christopher Chaltain
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:54 PM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: timer on BARD
 
 Have you taken a look at the Timer tab in the Clock app yet?
 
 The timer goes off when the time is up, so you can start the timer
 before or after you start reading the book.
 
 In the Timer tab, you use a few picker items to set how much time you
 want to tick off, like 15 or 30 minutes. You then double tap on the
 what you want to happen button and select stop playing from the
 bottom of the list. It's below all of the alarm tones you can choose.
 Once you've done that, you just double tap the start button and the
 timer starts counting down.
 
 If it were me, I'd start the timer and then start the book reading,
 so you don't have to deal with the VO and the timer settings while
 the book is being read.
 
 On 11/21/2013 06:28 PM, Pinky wrote:
 
   So do you start the book

Re: Airplay tips

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Iyou have an airport extreme or another airport express, it can be used alone.  
Just plug it in where you want it, and use the airport utility to connect your 
new airport to an existing wireless connection.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for all the guidance so far.
 
 A question on the airport express…   Does it need to be physically connected 
 to my apple extreme, or is it a stand alone product?  Our apple bay station 
 is upstairs, can the airport express be downstairs?
 
 Also, how about airplay apps that may come along with speakers?  I’ve read 
 about apps for Logitech, Sonos, Bose, etc.
 
 Traci
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Caitlyn furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just have to add to this that setting up one of these airport devices is 
 dead easy with the airport utility.  don’t let the set up process scare you!
 
 We have an airport express attached to our stereo and then I have the remote 
 app on both i phone and i pad.  It’s great to be able to stream movies and 
 stuff from my mac to our stereo.  I am so keen on having this now that I get 
 miffed if something goes amiss with the set up!  thankfully, that hasn’t 
 happened a lot since we got a new, unused express!
 hth,
 Cait
 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tracy,
 If you don't have an existing stereo or surroundsound system, then you 
 don't need an airport express. You can just buy the airplay speaker and get 
 it connected to your Wi-Fi network, and you should be good to go. 
 If, on the other hand, you have a stereo system that you like, you could 
 buy an airport express and connected to the input of your stereo system. 
 Then you would connect the airport express to your existing wi-fi network.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 15, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Could you pass along your air play tips for a complete newbie?  What 
 products do you recommend?  What do I need to get started?  
 
 Can I just purchase air play speakers, or do I need air play receiver?  
 Such as Apple TV or Airport Express?
 
 I have an airport extreme.
 
 I just read about a Boston acoustics speaker on Amazon for $199; it got 
 pretty good reviews.
 http://www.amazon.com/Boston-Acoustics-MC200Air-Wireless-Black/dp/B008KEPX1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronicsie=UTF8qid=1384549379sr=1-1keywords=air+play+speakers
 
 We don’t need base thumping sound in this household, but we definitely 
 want solid quality sound.
 
 Thank you for sharing your experience and/or pointing me to some good 
 resources.
 
 Traci
 
 Oh, one other thing…  How about airplay apps that come bundled with 
 speakers?  Are they necessary?  Are they accessible?
 
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Re: How do I get the normal itunes view where it shows music, movies etc?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I’m not sure what the command is on windows but, you will probably find it in 
the view menu.  It will say something like show/hide sources table.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, 
 How would I do this on a windows pc. 
 Jen 
  
 From: patrickneazer
 Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 6:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do I get the normal itunes view where it shows music, movies 
 etc?
  
 Hello Jen and all:
  
 The keystroke that may assist you is option command s. that toggle will make 
 that list appear and disappear.
  
 As for the challenge with your iphone syncing but not really, look in the 
 device portion of the table you made reappear with the previously mentioned 
 keystroke. if you find a listing for your iphone that is not really there, 
 perform a command E to eject the device. then try closing itunes.
  
 If there is no listing of a phone in the device area, simply try closing 
 itunes. it should not cause any problem.
  
 Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
  
 Take good care and I wish you enough.
  
 Patrick
 On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 I just went in to itunes and the view that shows music movies etc isn’t 
 showing up and I don’t remember the keystroke to get it back. 
 Also, when I went to close itunes it’s telling that my iPhone is being 
 synced and if I quit it won’t continue.  The thing is, my phone isn’t even 
 being connected so how do I make this problem go away. 
 Jen 
  
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Re: Streaming music not on my Iphone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Cara,

In my experience this is definitely not the case.  For example,  Go to 
settings/general/usage, and make sure you have no music on your device.  If 
there is, hit the edit button in the music section of usage, and delete all 
music.Now, play 3 songs via iTunes match.  Finally, go to 
settings/general/about, and you will see that there are now 3 songs on your 
device.  I think it just streams while songs you play are being downloaded.  

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Christopher,
 
 The docs may say that but in practice that's not what seems to happen. :)
 
 When you play a track from iCloud that track is still there and you still 
 have the option to download it to your device. The track is not actually on 
 your device.
 
 So it does stream to your device.
 
 If you wish to download the track there is a button to the right of the track 
 which allows you to do this. When you do this, the button goes away and you 
 need to delete the track from your device in order to bring it back.
 
 Hope this helps and thanks for posting that!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I didn't ask the original question, but I noticed that it said the following 
 on the iTunes Match FAQ at http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?
   On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
 played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
 download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
 download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if you 
 don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.
 
 On 11/20/2013 04:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 iTunes Match is what you want.
 
 You do not need to have an item downloaded to your phone in order to play it.
 
 NOt sure where that info came from but rest assured that iTunes Match is 
 meant specifically for this sort of thing.
 
 Best of luck and have a great day / evening!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, r...@q.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My music library exceeds the storage space on my IPhone.  I have currently
 handled this by selecting particular songs to sync between ITunes and my
 phone.  What I'd like to do is play my music on my IPhone without having to
 load it on the phone.
 
 I thought ITunes Match might work but from what I read there is not an
 option to play a song without loading it onto my IPhone.  Is there another
 app or service that will do this?
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

[Ricardo Walker]

Really?

It sure does effect the alerts on my iPhone 5 and my iPad mini retina.  Turn 
down the volume there, and the ringtone and alert volume is lowered.

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Yes sir. But, This adjustment does not affect the alert sounds whatsoever but 
 thanks for the tip.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s
 
 
 Hi,
 
 have you gone into settings/sounds and made sure ringer and alerts volume is 
 set to 100%?
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi all. Am observing that the alert sounds on the iPhone 5s seem to be a lot 
 quieter than on other devices like the 5 or the iPod. When I refer to alert 
 sounds I refer to sounds like when you initiate a dictation in an email or 
 text box by clicking the dictate button or by using a 2 finger double tap. 
 Does anyone else notice this or can confirm this? Also, I can't see that 
 there is a way to adjust this volume on these alerts.
 
 Brent
 
 
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Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Keep in mind, you can still use the old alert sounds and ringtones if thats 
what you prefer.

hth

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I just don't understand the thinking or reasoning behind them doing this. 
 Just doesn't make sense. 
 
 
 
 Blessings,
  Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 12:24 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 You are absolutely correct on this, Brent.  And, by the way, I hate the new
 sound levels.  I guess my hearing is not as good as those who work at Apple.
 
 
 It took me weeks to get used to the new sound levels and it's still a
 struggle.  
 
 Mark
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brent Harbolt
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s
 
 Hi all. Am observing that the alert sounds on the iPhone 5s seem to be a lot
 quieter than on other devices like the 5 or the iPod. When I refer to alert
 sounds I refer to sounds like when you initiate a dictation in an email or
 text box by clicking the dictate button or by using a 2 finger double tap.
 Does anyone else notice this or can confirm this? Also, I can't see that
 there is a way to adjust this volume on these alerts.
 
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Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

[Ricardo Walker]

Ah!

I see what you mean.  Sorry about that.  I thought you were referring to 
customizable alerts.

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 See my other message I just sent that the alerts and sounds I'm referring to 
 are not affected by this volume. Yes the ring tones in the text tones are but 
 the other ones I'm talking about are not.
 
 
 
 Blessings,
  Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5S
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Really?
 
 It sure does effect the alerts on my iPhone 5 and my iPad mini retina.  Turn 
 down the volume there, and the ringtone and alert volume is lowered.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
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 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Yes sir. But, This adjustment does not affect the alert sounds whatsoever 
 but thanks for the tip.
 - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s
 
 
 Hi,
 
 have you gone into settings/sounds and made sure ringer and alerts volume 
 is set to 100%?
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Hi all. Am observing that the alert sounds on the iPhone 5s seem to be a 
 lot quieter than on other devices like the 5 or the iPod. When I refer to 
 alert sounds I refer to sounds like when you initiate a dictation in an 
 email or text box by clicking the dictate button or by using a 2 finger 
 double tap. Does anyone else notice this or can confirm this? Also, I 
 can't see that there is a way to adjust this volume on these alerts.
 
 Brent
 
 
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Re: music format question

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Hi,

if the music was DRM, you would need to delete it from your computer, and 
download a DRM free copy from iTunes.

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 10:36 PM, don bishop w6...@donbishop.org wrote:

 Hi all,
 I’ve subscribed to itune match and placed all my music on the cloud.
 Most of my music is from sources other than the itunes, so I do understand 
 that the upload to the cloud converted the music.  I uploaded from a windows 
 pc.  
 Now, all the music shows up on my mac and also my iphone, however, the music 
 i uploaded from the non-itunes sources is now showing up as drm.  It was my 
 understanding that the music was converted to mp3 when downloaded to the 
 phone, but this doesn’t seem to be happening.  
 The reason this is an issue for me is that I like to use muxica on the phone, 
 but can’t for most of the music because muxica won’t play drm files.
 
 Am I missing something in the download process or did I just misunderstand in 
 the first place.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: iWorks sweet for free on i-devices

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Hi,

no special steps needed.  Just go to the app store and download them.  They 
should show up as free for you.  

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all!
 I thought I heard something about this awhile ago but I didn't listen to it 
 closely because I didn't think I was getting an iPad then, but I thought I 
 heard something about pages and numbers and all that for free. Is there a way 
 to get that for my iPad when it comes? Can someone email me and tell me the 
 steps how to get it if it's possible?
 Thanks! Have a good day!
 
 God Bless!!!
   Helena
 
 May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
 you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
 (Numbers 6;24)
 
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Re: Iphone 4s or 5C?

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Hi,

one other thing to consider is future proofing.  the iPhone 4S Is already 2 
years old, and by this time next year, I would imagine IOS 8 users will be 
experiencing some definite lag and performance issue like the IPhone 4 users 
now.

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 In terms of accessibility, the main advantage will be the updated camera for 
 OCR, bill identification, bar code scanning, and the like. Overall, of 
 course, the 5C will run faster and simply perform better. That is not an 
 accessibility feature per se, but it is worth considering as it will impact 
 all aspects of your use. The 5C also has a slightly larger screen, letting 
 you fit an extra row of icons on the home screens and more items in lists, if 
 that is something you are interested in. Finally, the 5C uses the Lightning 
 connector whereas the 4S uses the older 30-pin connector. Again, not an 
 accessibility issue, but if you have old iOS device cables, they will work 
 with a 4S but not a 5C.
 On Nov 16, 2013, at 1:32 PM, fran.it...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I'm new. I'd like to get an Iphone but am undecided between the 
 cheaper 4s or more expensive but obviously updated 5C. Do you think there 
 would be a big difference for a blind user in terms of accessible apps 
 between the 2 models? I'd go for the 4S but I wouldn't want to regret 
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Re: Iphone 4s or 5C?

[Ricardo Walker]

Just to add, I would honestly go with the best I could afford.  You can never 
go wrong with having the most up to date hardware you can buy.  Especially when 
using a resource intensive app like a screen reader.

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Probably not. I have a 4s here and it's brilliant. Yes there's a delay in 
 opening apps but nothing substantial to make me regret the phone. It was an 
 upgrade from the 4 which I sure now regret thanks to it being slow throughout 
 under iOS 7.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
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 On 16/11/2013 18:32, fran.it...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, I'm new. I'd like to get an Iphone but am undecided between the
 cheaper 4s or more expensive but obviously updated 5C. Do you think there
 would be a big difference for a blind user in terms of accessible apps
 between the 2 models? I'd go for the 4S but I wouldn't want to regret
 it...Thank you!
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Re: Phone KeyPad IOs7.

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Hi,

The delete button is directly above the number 3 on the keypad.  I honestly 
don’t have any problems finding it.

hth

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 But, you get to the delete button sliding your finger until you find
 it, but can you get to the delete button sliding left to right or
 right to left on the screen?
 I found the button also, but get there is not easy some times. if we
 are in a place like a bus, is difficult when you have people moving
 around. or when we are standing up waiting for something. It should
 work different. Ok, maybe it is anew good thing of IOs7?
 or I should considerate it like a fault in the accessibility on the phone app 
 ?
 what is the label that after add to contacts is?
 
 
 On 11/21/13, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I have the iPhone 4s with version 7.0.4 and the delete key works perfectly
 fine when using touch typing. I did a test by typing 411 and then dragging
 my finger to the delete button which is on the top right-ish corner  of the
 phone and I simply let go on the delete button and it deletes the one then
 deletes the one then delete the  for Hope that helps
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:21 AM, Aser Tolentino agtolent...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Actually, I have to correct my previous reply. The method Chris described
 in the other thread works for me; move your finger over the delete key to
 the right of the number field, hold and delete. This assumes you have
 typing mode set to touch typing.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:28 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 I am noticing now, that the delete key on the phone keypad, is not
 working in an iPhone 4, and my iPhone 5s either. I read here in the list,
 that I just need to make a double tab,  on the delete button, but only
 thing that says delete on my phone keypad is below Add to contacts, and
 above the numbers. It doesn't say delete button, just says delete. If I
 press double tab, it doesn't delete any number, how it was doing in the
 older versions of IOs. The only way that I have to delete something here,
 is been on the delete label, make a double tab, and hold my finger on the
 screen by 3 seconds, but this action delete the whole numbers that I
 typed. What I have to do to make the keypad works well, I mean, for
 delete numbers or add numbers between other numbers, like in the Older
 versions of IOs?
 Or just let me delete the last number that I typed.
 Thanks
 Pablo
 
 
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Re: Streaming music not on my Iphone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes. I am running IOS 7.0.4 on my iPad mini, iPhone 5, and an iPad mini retina. 
 All 3 show the behavior I described.

hth

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 What Ricardo describes is how Music Match always behaved before iOS 7. 
 According to Apple, the behaviour is supposed to now be what Cara describes. 
 Unless Recardo has not yet updated the particular iPhone, I would wonder why 
 he is getting the earlier actions from his iDevice.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 10:08, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interesting,
 
 For me the song does not get downloaded unless I tap the download button 
 next to it.
 
 Just tried it before I posted last night to make sure. :)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cara,
 
 In my experience this is definitely not the case.  For example,  Go to 
 settings/general/usage, and make sure you have no music on your device.  If 
 there is, hit the edit button in the music section of usage, and delete all 
 music.Now, play 3 songs via iTunes match.  Finally, go to 
 settings/general/about, and you will see that there are now 3 songs on your 
 device.  I think it just streams while songs you play are being downloaded.  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Christopher,
 
 The docs may say that but in practice that's not what seems to happen. :)
 
 When you play a track from iCloud that track is still there and you still 
 have the option to download it to your device. The track is not actually on 
 your device.
 
 So it does stream to your device.
 
 If you wish to download the track there is a button to the right of the 
 track which allows you to do this. When you do this, the button goes away 
 and you need to delete the track from your device in order to bring it back.
 
 Hope this helps and thanks for posting that!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I didn't ask the original question, but I noticed that it said the 
 following on the iTunes Match FAQ at 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?
 On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
 played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
 download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
 download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if 
 you don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.
 
 On 11/20/2013 04:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 iTunes Match is what you want.
 
 You do not need to have an item downloaded to your phone in order to play 
 it.
 
 NOt sure where that info came from but rest assured that iTunes Match is 
 meant specifically for this sort of thing.
 
 Best of luck and have a great day / evening!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, r...@q.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My music library exceeds the storage space on my IPhone.  I have currently
 handled this by selecting particular songs to sync between ITunes and my
 phone.  What I'd like to do is play my music on my IPhone without having to
 load it on the phone.
 
 I thought ITunes Match might work but from what I read there is not an
 option to play a song without loading it onto my IPhone.  Is there another
 app or service that will do this?
 
 Thanks
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Streaming music not on my Iphone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just to add to this, let me copy exactly what Apple says about streaming and 
downloading in regards to iTunes match.  I would also like to point out, Apple 
is really good about updating their knowledge bases so, I’m surprised if this 
has changed like David and Cara says, that it hasn’t been reflected in Apples 
documentation 2 months after IOS 7 has been released.  But here’s the info.

Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?”

On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if you 
don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.”

hth

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On Nov 21, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Yes. I am running IOS 7.0.4 on my iPad mini, iPhone 5, and an iPad mini 
 retina.  All 3 show the behavior I described.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What Ricardo describes is how Music Match always behaved before iOS 7. 
 According to Apple, the behavior is supposed to now be what Cara describes. 
 Unless Recardo has not yet updated the particular iPhone, I would wonder why 
 he is getting the earlier actions from his iDevice.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Nov 2013, at 10:08, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Interesting,
 
 For me the song does not get downloaded unless I tap the download button 
 next to it.
 
 Just tried it before I posted last night to make sure. :)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cara,
 
 In my experience this is definitely not the case.  For example,  Go to 
 settings/general/usage, and make sure you have no music on your device.  If 
 there is, hit the edit button in the music section of usage, and delete all 
 music.Now, play 3 songs via iTunes match.  Finally, go to 
 settings/general/about, and you will see that there are now 3 songs on your 
 device.  I think it just streams while songs you play are being downloaded. 
  
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Christopher,
 
 The docs may say that but in practice that's not what seems to happen. :)
 
 When you play a track from iCloud that track is still there and you still 
 have the option to download it to your device. The track is not actually 
 on your device.
 
 So it does stream to your device.
 
 If you wish to download the track there is a button to the right of the 
 track which allows you to do this. When you do this, the button goes away 
 and you need to delete the track from your device in order to bring it 
 back.
 
 Hope this helps and thanks for posting that!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I didn't ask the original question, but I noticed that it said the 
 following on the iTunes Match FAQ at 
 http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
 
 Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?
 On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
 played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
 download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
 download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if 
 you don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.
 
 On 11/20/2013 04:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 iTunes Match is what you want.
 
 You do not need to have an item downloaded to your phone in order to play 
 it.
 
 NOt sure where that info came from but rest assured that iTunes Match is 
 meant specifically for this sort of thing.
 
 Best of luck and have a great day / evening!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, r...@q.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My music library exceeds the storage space on my IPhone.  I have currently
 handled this by selecting particular songs to sync between ITunes and my
 phone.  What I'd like to do is play my music on my IPhone without having 
 to
 load it on the phone.
 
 I thought ITunes Match might work but from what I read there is not an
 option to play a song without loading it onto my IPhone.  Is there another
 app or service that will do this?
 
 Thanks
 
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 chaltain at Gmail
 
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Re: Observation about alert sounds on iPhone 5s

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

have you gone into settings/sounds and made sure ringer and alerts volume is 
set to 100%?

hth

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi all. Am observing that the alert sounds on the iPhone 5s seem to be a lot 
 quieter than on other devices like the 5 or the iPod. When I refer to alert 
 sounds I refer to sounds like when you initiate a dictation in an email or 
 text box by clicking the dictate button or by using a 2 finger double tap. 
 Does anyone else notice this or can confirm this? Also, I can't see that 
 there is a way to adjust this volume on these alerts.
  
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Re: Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

no.  The bug occurs when controlling Voiceover volume independently  with the 
volume adjuster in the rotor.

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

 Question, does this bug still happen if you use the volume up and down 
 buttons instead of the rotor?  the reason I ask, if I use headphones to 
 listen to music and use the volume up and down buttons, will this create a 
 problem?
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:21 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina
 
 Hello list,
 
 I just wanted to inform you all that the same Voiceover volume bug that 
 prevents you from turning up the volume once you've lowered it with the rotor 
 for iPhone 5S users, is also happening on the new iPad mini retina.  I got my 
 new iPad today, and I was a little shocked to discover this bug on here too.
 
 hth
 
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Re: Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yup,

But using the buttons is quite different too.  For example, when I’m using my 
JBL flip Bluetooth speaker, Voiceover is extremely loud in comparison to the 
media I’m listening to.  I would usually use the rotor to turn down Voiceover 
volume independently of all other system audio.  This isn’t possible when using 
the buttons.

hth

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it also affects the air  as well. Also, if you use the buttons on the 
 device to turn up the volume, you won't rexperience the bug.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Question, does this bug still happen if you use the volume up and down 
 buttons instead of the rotor?  the reason I ask, if I use headphones to 
 listen to music and use the volume up and down buttons, will this create a 
 problem?
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:21 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina
 
 Hello list,
 
 I just wanted to inform you all that the same Voiceover volume bug that 
 prevents you from turning up the volume once you've lowered it with the 
 rotor for iPhone 5S users, is also happening on the new iPad mini retina.  I 
 got my new iPad today, and I was a little shocked to discover this bug on 
 here too.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
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Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello list,

I just wanted to inform you all that the same Voiceover volume bug that 
prevents you from turning up the volume once you've lowered it with the rotor 
for iPhone 5S users, is also happening on the new iPad mini retina.  I got my 
new iPad today, and I was a little shocked to discover this bug on here too.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I hope you are being sarcastic.  I don’t recall anyone on the list saying there 
were no bugs.  If you can find me the post of a person on list saying that, I 
would appreciate it.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 7.0.3  has 
 no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last update, and reading 
 this last email. I am understanding that I wasn't wrong, when I said that IOs 
 7, has several bugs.
 I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, has 
 several bugs, as the article says.
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Fred Olver
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM
 Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
 
 Feed: OS X Daily
 Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
 Author: Paul Horowitz
 Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
 Links]
 
  
 
 
 
 iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
 touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes 
 and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused 
 video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some circumstances. 
 Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically 
 mentioned or discovered yet.
 
 The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their iOS 
 devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update on 
 their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 
 iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad Mini, 
 Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5 is 
 available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime issues 
 for that device.
 
 Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
 
 For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use 
 the over-the-air update mechanism:
 
 · Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software Update”
 
 · Choose “Download  Install” and agree to the terms and conditions 
 to begin the update
 
 Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through 
 OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on “Preparing 
 Update…” for a while before completing, this seems to be routine for just 
 about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should complete eventually.
 
 Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download 
 the complete update through there.
 
 Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files can also choose to 
 download IPSW files directly from Apple’s servers using the links below, then 
 apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered more 
 advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with updating 
 through IPSW.
 
 iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
 
 For best results, right-click the respective link and choose “Save As”. Be 
 sure the file has a “.ipsw” extension when saved.
 
 · iPhone 5 (GSM)
 
 · iPhone 5 (CDMA)
 
 · iPhone 5S (GSM)
 
 · iPhone 5S (CDMA)
 
 · iPhone 5C(GSM)
 
 · iPhone 5C (CDMA)
 
 · iPhone 4S
 
 · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)
 
 · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)
 
 · iPhone 4 (CDMA)
 
 · iPad Air (LTE)
 
 · iPad Air (Wi-Fi)
 
 · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (LTE)
 
 · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (Wi-Fi)
 
 · iPad 4 (GSM)
 
 · iPad 4 (CDMA)
 
 · iPad 4 (Wi-Fi)
 
 · iPad Mini (Wi-Fi)
 
 · iPad Mini (GSM)
 
 · iPad Mini (CDMA)
 
 · iPad 3 (Wi-Fi)
 
 · iPad 3 (GSM)
 
 · iPad 3 (CDMA)
 
 · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,4)
 
 · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,1)
 
 · iPad 2 (GSM)
 
 · iPad 2 (CDMA)
 
 · iPod touch (5th gen)
 
 · iPod touch (4th gen – iOS 6.1.5)
 
 The majority of individuals should use the OTA update method, it is by far 
 the simplest.
 
 The update appears to enable Bluetooth, so if you don’t use the feature be 
 sure to turn that off when your device reboots. Disabling unneeded features 
 can help battery life last longer on just about every iOS device.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I’m not sure about this.  In IOS 7, it is certainly harder to hang up a call 
with a 2 finger double tap on the first try.  It seems to have gotten better in 
the minor releases but, enough people who have been using IOS for years have 
experienced the same behavior to not just write it off as 100% user error.  And 
overall, the 2 finger double tap has at times produced some unexpected results. 
 For example, I do a 2 finger double tap to start dictation and my audible book 
starts playing.  Or music.  Now there is no way this can be user error.  lol.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:41 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, the initial complaints from the venting message in this thread were 
 quite obviously user error, not errors in the OS. Two-finger double tap, with 
 the fingers slightly spread always answers and ends phone calls. If it does 
 not end the phone call, this is always and exclusively because the gesture 
 was performed incorrectly. It is solely and completely the user's 
 responsibility to become fully proficient at performing the gestures 
 properly. Apple has a specific practice area set up exclusively to help each 
 of us learn, and perfect, our gestures.
 
 It is not Apple's fault or responsibility when we do not perform the gesture 
 properly. The fault / blame / responsibility falls squarely and entirely on 
 the shoulders of the person who has not properly learned the gestures.
 
 Consider it this way. I cannot get Windows to copy a file. No matter how many 
 times I press control d, the file will not copy. Is it Microsoft's fault that 
 I am pressing control d rather than control c? Properly performing gestures 
 is exactly and precisely the same thing!
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 12 Nov 2013, at 11:06, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sure, if there is accessibility bug we, as any of a responsible consumer, 
 regardless either we are blind or not blind, should report. However, when it 
 is clearly the user fault, which, frankly speaking, you have 75%  of the 
 chance with the case, and each of these user errors and faults got to report 
 to the provider, i bet, soon or later, Apple can choose to do their own 
 thing, or provide the lease accessibility tthat they can for the future 
 software and hardware.
 I think, for new user, they need to realize that they deal with the new 
 platform, and they also should have the expectation that things will not be 
 the same compare to your old Nokia phone.
 The sooner they realize this, the better experience they will get instead of 
 keep having the batel against themselves as to how Talks do this and that, 
 and how Voiceover do this and that.
 You know, back in the old days, i can remember 90% of my family and friends 
 phone numbers, i used to be call as a walking phone book. But now, since i 
 use iPhone, i can't recall my phone number half of the time. Maybe i should 
 write to Apple for that, and asking them to stop the capability of saving 
 phone numbers and contact details. 
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
 Send from my iPad
 
 On 12 Nov 2013, at 5:23, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think this is what you're saying, but I think we need to be careful 
 here. Accessibility isn't something that were given as a charity and 
 something we should feel grateful for when someone provides it. 
 Accessibility is a right that we should be demanding. Of course, we should 
 be positive and cooperative when someone is working towards accessibility, 
 but we shouldn't just accept whatever comes our way. For example, We 
 shouldn't settle for Mobile Accessibility on Windows Phone 8 and stop 
 pressing Microsoft for greater access to Windows Phone 8 just because they 
 were kind enough to toss us this accessible scrap.
 
 It's also a fact that there are accessibility related bugs in IOS 7. People 
 should be bringing these up on list and reporting them to Apple. There may 
 be cases when one person's bug is another person's feature and one person's 
 reporting of an issue is whining to someone else. I don't think accusations 
 of whining and complaining should keep people from mentioning perceived 
 bugs and issues they're having with IOS. I too get frustrated with what I 
 see as people's whining, but I'm hesitant to say where that line should be 
 drawn, and I think we should be careful when we chastise someone for being 
 spoiled and whining. Like I said, we want people talking about the issues 
 they're having with their iPhones because as good as the Iphone is, it 
 could still be better and it could definitely get worse if Apple feels it 
 has to redirect resources away from accessibility and towards other 
 critical projects.
 
 On 11/11/2013 02

Re: looking for an app

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

how about the music app on your device?  It plays audiobooks just fine for me, 
and keep my place.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 12, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com wrote:

 I’m looking for an app which will allow me to play m4b audiobooks on my 
 iphonex without losing my place every time I stop listening, rebooting the 
 phone etc. Any help would be extremely helpful.
 Cheers
 Alex
 
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Re: Opening Safari on homepage every time

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

in replace of not being able to set a homepage, you could save your homepage of 
chosice to your homescreen.  So instead of opening the Safari app, you can just 
launch the site directly.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, Safari on IOS doesn’t have a home page feature.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
 On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:36 AM, DJ grou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you tap the button at the bottom right corner of the screen you can close
 all other tabs and leave the tab you want open.
 
 DJ
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Andrew Lamanche
 Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:40 AM
 To: VIPhone
 Subject: Opening Safari on homepage every time
 
 Listers,
 
 Is there a way of forcing Safari to open every time I choose this
 application on my iPhone 5C to open on my homepage as it does in Safari on
 the Mac? 
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: wireless charging of your iPhone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi David,

Thanks for this.  That’s interesting to know.  On the surface, this doesn’t 
sound like a terribly complex problem.  They could add a cooling system to the 
charging pad to help dissipate some of the heat I would think. But, I am far 
from a thermal engineer. hahaha.  Like Sieghard suggested, I think it might be 
the slower charging times, and adding the charging coil into the body of such a 
slim compact device as an iPhone that is probably holding the technology back 
from being added at this time.  Plus, it’s only a minor convenience at this 
point.  Probably not worth all the effort of making it happen.

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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Change for the sake of it?  With respect, it sounds like common sense to me.  
Voiceover always read the first item on the screen below the status bar.  When 
on the lock screen, this is usually the time.  This is why we hear the time 
read when we wake our devices.  Now, in IOS 7, when listening to audio, the 
transport controls are automatically shown as the first items on the screen.  
So naturally, Voiceover reads that first when waking your device.  Voiceover is 
doing what it has always done since IOS 3.0.  The difference is what is 
displayed on the screen.  I don’t see what engineers have to do with it.  Since 
the time is shown in the status bar, why would any sighted person be so 
redundant as to show the time again underneath when your listening to audio.  
Like David said, I’m sure people wrote Apple saying when I’m listening to 
audio, can you have the transport and now playing information automatically 
displayed instead of me needing to press the home button twice to bring it up?  
Apple then looked at this request and said yes. This does indeed make sense.  
Since since it is an improvement for 99.9% of our user base, and only a 00.1% 
mild inconvenience for Voiceover users, who just need to touch the status bar 
when listening to audio, this looks like a decent enough trade off.

I honestly don’t think it’s that big of a deal.  I mean, how many toggles and 
settings can you cram into an OS or app?  After a while, you just have to put 
your foot down and say enough is enough.  This setting adds an extra layer of 
convenience to the majority of users, and doesn’t break accessibility.  It’s 
not like the clock completely disappears from the screen after all.

JMO.

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On Nov 11, 2013, at 4:28 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Agreed,  pity this couldn't be turned off and something else turned on.
 Makes you wonder what the development engineers are thinking of when they 
 change these things, apparently for the sake of it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:14 AM
 Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
 
 
 Well, apple accessibility has a different opinion than you. They recognize
 that it should read the time. The people normally look the time more often
 than when they want to know the track position. Sorry again man. But apple
 responded to me, that they are going to fix it, and they are apologized
 about it.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:58 PM
 Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
 
 
 Pablo,
 
 VO announcing the track position rather than the time is a new feature, not
 a bug. When an audio track is playing, the lock screen now displays the
 audio player screen rather than the normal unlock screen. If you would
 rather the normal unlock screen was displayed, send an email to Apple about
 it. However, this is not a bug! In fact, I am willing to bet that many
 people sent Apple complaints because the audio player did not automatically
 come up when they first opened the lock screen. If that is the case, I
 seriously doubt your message will cause Apple to change back to the previous
 system. After all, how often do the majority of users activate the lock
 screen to manipulate their audio playback compared with how many do so to
 check the time.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11 Nov 2013, at 12:41, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Sieghard, what are you talking about?
 So for you is not fir that I  complain when I feel that somebody is
 abusing when they decrees the quality of a product?
 For example, in IOs 5, the typing emails or typing text messages, wasn't a
 problem, in IOs 6  either, but now in IOs 7  is very difficult. If not
 every body is getting the same problem, it doesn't mean that is not enough
 people getting the problem. I have seen this kind of complain in the list,
 several times. It was happening in the previous versions of IOs?
 No, it didn't.
 Now VO says after the screen is locked, Screen lockedand seconds or
 minutes later, VO repeats the message.
 It happened before?
 No, it didn't.
 When we receive a call, is easy to find the end button? is easy to finish
 the phone call?
 No, it is not, is not one people getting this problem, is a lot of people
 saying the same thing. It happened before?
 No, it didn't.
 Field a text box in a web site, is difficult, or some times impossible. If
 you don't do it, it doesn't means that it is not a bug. It means that you
 don't field text fields on web sites, it is all. It happened before?
 No, it didn't.
 Now when we are reading the list of emails, or what ever list of content,
 voice over jumps

Re: different observation concerning When will Apple take this seriously

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

Whoa!! Hold on a second.  lol.  The law suit you speak of was filed in 2006.  
By this time, Apple had already put out Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger which contained the 
Voiceover screen reader.  The courts Ruled in favor of the NFB lead suit in 
September 2007.  By this time, the iPhone had only been out 3 months.  The 
actual settlement wrapped up in September 2008.  By June 2009, Voiceover was on 
the new iPhone 3Gs.  So where exactly in that timeline did the NFB have the 
time to turn their sites on Apples lack of accessibility?  I think you might be 
overstating the NFB’s influence quite a bit here.  I mean, since you said 
“fresh off” that would leave the NFB with only 8 months to turn their sights on 
Apple before Voiceover was introduced on the iPhone.  So obviously, Voiceover 
and iOS 3.0 wasn’t developed in 8 months.  The way Apple tells it, they had 
every intention of adding a screen reader to IOS.  It took them over 2 years to 
actually come up with a multi touch gesture based screen reader.

But with that aside, I think the word “partner” when speaking about Apple and 
developers of IOS Apps should be used loosely.  I mean, there are literally 
tens of thousands of developers creating and supporting hundreds of thousands 
of apps.  Apple has made the platform accessible, and has made literature 
easily available for developers to insure accessibility in their apps.  In my 
opinion, Apple has done their job.  It’s now up to us to interact with the 
developers like we’ve been doing to make sure accessibility is up to par.  In 
my opinion, this model works.  It’s the best model out there so far actually.

JMO.



Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 11, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Michael Hingson i...@michaelhingson.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I agree with the comments made here concerning Apple as opposed to the other
 phones on the market.  Apple has done quite a lot to make its phone work for
 blind people and today leads the accessibility race by a wide margin.  In
 part, iPhones are accessible because blind people made it happen.  Not
 everyone knows, for example, that the National Federation, fresh off
 defeating Target in an accessibility law suit, turned its sights to Apple as
 that company was not doing anything to make accessibility happen.  Apple
 came through without litigation and today we see the results.
 
 However, what I do believe we have a right to demand is some movement on
 Apple's part to make accessibility more of a fact and mindset within the
 minds of its partners.  Apple should create minimum accessibility standards
 for ALL apps in the App Store.  True, many apps are sight oriented and will
 not and cannot be expected to produce results we as blind people can see.
 However, Apple can at least require that the controls on all apps be
 accessible to Voiceover.  Apple should complete its accessible commitment by
 changing the mindset of its partners to provide the maximum usability
 possible for blind people.
 
 All too often apps go in and out of being accessible to us.  There is no
 reason for this.  Apple could fix this problem easily.  By doing so it would
 show to us and the world its true commitment to accessibility at all levels.
 
 To put it another way, it really isn't enough to make its own device work
 for us, but it also should insure that we can keep up by having the most
 possible access to the apps that run on its devices.  Having guidelines and
 suggestions has proven not to be enough.  Apple should work with blind
 people to create better standards for app access.  Apple is the gate keeper
 for apps through the App Store.  It has, I believe, the obligation to insure
 the maximum possible access for those apps. 
 
 
 Best,
 
 
 Michael Hingson
 
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Re: Is there an accessible Hotmail app?

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Hi,

Just to add to this, you can now set up outlook accounts as IMAP on IOS and in 
Mail on the Mac.  This way your mail, calendar, and notes can be synced quite 
easily.

hth

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On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Dean,
 
 As Christopher pointed out, Hotmail works great with the native mail app.
 Just remember that Hotmail is now called Outlook.com and if you are running
 iOS 7 this change is reflected in the types of accounts you can pick from.
 Just make sure when you add your account that you pick Outlook.com as your
 account type, then enter your user name and password and that's it. After
 the connection is made you have the choice to turn on Mail, Contacts,
 Calendars and Reminders, I usually turn on the first 3 but I use iCloud for
 Reminders.
 On my PC I have Windows 7 and Office 2010 and if you are running Office
 2003, 2007 or 2010 you can install the Outlook connector application from
 Microsoft and also set up your Outlook.com account in Outlook and mail,
 contacts and calendars will be synced between your computer and iPhone.
 If you have Office 2013 Outlook.com integration is built in and all you have
 to do is set up your account with your user name and password, the restis
 automatic.
 I personally find that Outlook.com works much better than gmail when it
 comes to keeping the account in sync between devices even though in iOS 7
 gmail support now includes Contacts so at least you don't have to set up a
 separate CardDAV account to sync Google Contacts.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Of Dean Wilcox
 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Is there an accessible Hotmail app?
 
 Hi all,
 As the subject asks, is there an app for Live Mail, Hotmail etc that is
 accessible?  I could just try a few but thought asking the question first
 wouldn't hurt.
 
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Re: State of iOS 7

[Ricardo Walker]

Honestly?  I never thought there was any strong reasons not to upgrade.  Bugs?  
Sure.  But nothing I, or the majority of people would call a game changer.

JMO.

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On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
  
 Where are we on iOS 7 in terms of recommendations to upgrade, not upgrade, 
 etc.? My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 6, and I have no real reason to upgrade. 
 Still, I’d like to know my options in case one evening I get the motivation 
 to check out some of the features, including the handwriting capability. 
 Thanks for any current reports.
  
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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

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Hi,

With respect, let me go through some of the things below.  In regards to 
hanging up a call.  Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 finger double tap doesn’t 
always hang up a call on the first try.  Generally, the second try will do the 
trick.  About phone numbers in a text, turn the rotor to links, flick down to 
the number, and double tap and hold.  A dialog appears asking you if you want 
to call, text, or save the number to contacts.  This is not a bug.  If you 
don’t like the way its now done that’s one thing.  But it isn’t broken.

Web forms?  Yes.  This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no excuse for 
that.  But I will continue to say, I think some people on the list have very 
short memories.  Remember all the bugs that were found in IOS 6 when it first 
launched?  I’m sorry, bugs in software is just a fact of life at launch.  There 
have been a couple minor updates.  But we are still on a .0 release.  Can we at 
least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can see what’s what?  And about the 
persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, it was running a dead OS, a non 
existent app store in which I bet the accessible apps were slim pickings 
indeed.  I say this just to point out, if you want to take 3 or 4 bugs, and 
compare it to an operating system that no longer being supported, that’s fine.  
But, anyone can do that.

JMO

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6  came. Looks like every time 
 apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility problems 
 every time are worse. They are not learning of the previous IOs experiences, 
 they are not paying attention to it, or they want to become the accessibility 
 in something that another company will care. With IOs 7, I am getting the 
 same problems than you, and bunches of others. But the response that I found 
 is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a very poor excuse, because with IOs 7, 
 is when I have been taking more problems to access information with my apple 
 devices.
 Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying that not more 
 support for older versions of the IOs, but at the same time, we have to be 
 suffering during the year, the bugs that every IOs brings, we come to the end 
 of the year, and start again with another IOs. It is not fir.
 
 - Original Message - From: sen...@gmail.com
 To: ViPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM
 Subject: When will Apple take this seriously?
 
 
 This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many 
 shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared in ver 7 
 that were not in IOS6.
 It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are 
 compromised.
 1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the call but 
 it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a drain on 
 my wallet due to large long distance call charges.
 2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to call or 
 message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6 year old 
 Nokia better.
 3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my previous 
 phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a iphone 
 and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating.
 This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS versions 
 will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick with us. 
 Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for the visually 
 challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a phone that works. With 
 IOS7 AND IPHONE all one can do is pull ones hair out, welcome to a bald world 
 populated with buggy iphones!
 
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Re: VoiceOver Over Stating

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

try turning your rotor to punctuations and flicking up or down to some or none.

hth

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

 Recently, VoiceOver on my iPhone 5 (iOS 7.0.3) has begun pronouncing 
 punctuation where that isn't desirable; for instance, when reading the time. 
 I now am hearing eight colon thirty literally overstating the colon.  I'm 
 certain this issue is due to some setting, but I have no idea which that may 
 be.  Can anybody on the list offer any suggestions?
 
 Holland's Boy, Bill
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 - Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought movement, 
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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

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Hi,

But you don’t have to buy it.  That’s the thing.  Just because you pay a high 
price for something doesn’t mean it will be perfect.  For example, go buy a 
Samsung Galaxy 4, and turn on Talkback.  This phone costs about the same as an 
iPhone 5S.  I assure you this phone has bugs too.  If it has been established 
that no public OS is bug free, why hold Apple to a standard that no one else 
has ever achieved?  I’m not saying don’t be upset by bugs.  I’m saying they are 
to be expected to a certain extent.  For all the bugs, how many people actually 
return iPhones?  Not many I’ll tell you that.  I believe they have a return 
rate under 2%.

  

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I don't agree it.
 Apple sales their toys at a very high price. As I said before, and iPhone 
 today is more money that the money that the most part of the people on the 
 world makes in one year. What does that mean for me?
 If they are charging a very high price for their toys, they should offer good 
 toys, and do not be hide behind the excuse that every IOs or every operated 
 system, has bugs, it is a really poor excuse. Why it is a very poor excuse?
 Every year apple start saying that they have a new IOs, it is the better IOs, 
 it is the more advance operated system  in the galaxy, no body on the world, 
 and around the world has a better operated system, and at the same time, they 
 say that they will not provide more support to devices who doesn't have 
 install IOs 7. So is mandatory has IOs 7 installed.
 Now, every year, apple create a new IOs, and every creation brings bugs, 
 problems, and bunches of things that are real problems for sighted and blind 
 people. We have more than one month talking about it in the list. Apple 
 doesn't learn of the previous experiences?
 Apple is not paying attention to the mistakes that they did before?
 Apple is giving job to new developers every year and giving lay off to the 
 older developers, because every year, customers, sighted and blind, we have 
 to be suffering the bugs of new operated systems, and when we come to the end 
 of the year, we do not have every bug fixed, no, it never is cover, but we 
 have to update to a new operated system, and start again.
 In my opinion, the fault here is in our side. Apple is doing what the people 
 wants. Apple is hearing people saying that, oh, no, every operated system has 
 bugs, oh, no, it worse with the last IOs, instead heard people saying, hey 
 apple, we do not accept it, and we are not going to update our devices until 
 you do a better job. Every year, the bugs are worse and worse. Do you 
 remember IOs 5?
 It has bugs, of course, but do you remember when came IOs6?
 It has more bugs than IOs 5, and now Ios 7  has more than Ios 6.
 So every year we are worse.
 But we have people saying that, oh, no, every Operated system has bugs.
 So apple is doing what the customers wants.
 
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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

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Hi,

It’s not about having the right or not having the right.  You can do and say 
whatever you want.  But it doesn’t change the facts.  Software can be easily 
fixed.  What sets Apple apart in many respects is their premium hardware.  
That’s why people pay high prices as well as the IOS ecosystem.  Hundreds of 
thousands of apps, and thousands of accessories.  That is what people are 
really paying for.  I honestly think you should pick up a cheap Android phone 
an compare.  I think then you will look at your iPhone, even with the faults of 
IOS a little more favorably. 

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you say. 
 But apple is not the cheaper or the standard  price for their products. Of 
 course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in disagreement when I pay 
 a thousand dollars for a phone, and I have to be fighting with the 
 accessibility, when it was working better in previous versions of IOs.
 Yes, I feel that I have right to be saying that I don't like it.
 
 - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM
 Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
 
 
 In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO? 
 There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS  release for sighted people as well, 
 some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does 
 not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take it 
 seriously, because if you extend that logic, then bugs anywhere must mean 
 they don't care about any of their software. Voiceover is no different from 
 any other aspect of Apple's products: it is mostly great, it has bugs, they 
 fix the bugs, they update, more bugs come along, and the cycle continues. 
 That's true of all software anywhere.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 With respect, let me go through some of the things below.  In regards to 
 hanging up a call.  Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 finger double tap 
 doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try.  Generally, the second try 
 will do the trick.  About phone numbers in a text, turn the rotor to links, 
 flick down to the number, and double tap and hold.  A dialog appears asking 
 you if you want to call, text, or save the number to contacts.  This is not 
 a bug.  If you don’t like the way its now done that’s one thing.  But it 
 isn’t broken.
 
 Web forms?  Yes.  This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no excuse for 
 that.  But I will continue to say, I think some people on the list have very 
 short memories.  Remember all the bugs that were found in IOS 6 when it 
 first launched?  I’m sorry, bugs in software is just a fact of life at 
 launch.  There have been a couple minor updates.  But we are still on a .0 
 release.  Can we at least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can see what’s 
 what?  And about the persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, it was 
 running a dead OS, a non existent app store in which I bet the accessible 
 apps were slim pickings indeed.  I say this just to point out, if you want 
 to take 3 or 4 bugs, and compare it to an operating system that no longer 
 being supported, that’s fine.  But, anyone can do that.
 
 JMO
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6  came. Looks like every time 
 apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility problems 
 every time are worse. They are not learning of the previous IOs 
 experiences, they are not paying attention to it, or they want to become 
 the accessibility in something that another company will care. With IOs 7, 
 I am getting the same problems than you, and bunches of others. But the 
 response that I found is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a very poor 
 excuse, because with IOs 7, is when I have been taking more problems to 
 access information with my apple devices.
 Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying that not 
 more support for older versions of the IOs, but at the same time, we have 
 to be suffering during the year, the bugs that every IOs brings, we come to 
 the end of the year, and start again with another IOs. It is not fir.
 
 - Original Message - From: sen...@gmail.com
 To: ViPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM
 Subject: When will Apple take this seriously?
 
 
 This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many 
 shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have

wireless charging of your iPhone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello list,

I wanted to share this because I think it sounds pretty cool.  A lot of high 
end phones have the ability  to be charged wirelessly.  Unfortunately, IOS 
devices are not one of them.  A group has started a crowd fund raising campaign 
for a wireless charging receiver that attaches to the lightning port of your 
IOS device.  Here goes the link for more information.  I definitely will be 
picking one of these up.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/iqi-mobile-wireless-charging-for-iphone 

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Re: wireless charging of your iPhone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Yeah but, you would just leave this plugged in all the time.  I mean for me, I 
would have no reason to unplug it since I don’t sync with my iTunes at all.  I 
think just putting your phone down on your desk to charge your device is pretty 
cool.

Ricardo Walker
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On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:21 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Sorry, don't see the point;  if you plug in that gismo, you might as well 
 plug in the charger, surely?
 
 rh.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:49 PM
 Subject: wireless charging of your iPhone.
 
 
 Hello list,
 
 I wanted to share this because I think it sounds pretty cool.  A lot of high 
 end phones have the ability  to be charged wirelessly.  Unfortunately, IOS 
 devices are not one of them.  A group has started a crowd fund raising 
 campaign for a wireless charging receiver that attaches to the lightning 
 port of your IOS device.  Here goes the link for more information.  I 
 definitely will be picking one of these up.
 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/iqi-mobile-wireless-charging-for-iphone
 
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Re: wireless charging of your iPhone.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I believe Qi chargers can be had for about $35.  This is around the same price 
as an Apple Charger.  Yes.  It is slower than using an AC outlet.  The 
developer says charging time is a bit faster than that if charging via a USB 
2.0 port.  On average, this takes about 4 hours for me if charging a dead 
iPhone via USB.  So for arguments sake Lets say this charger can do that in 3 
and a quarter hours.  I think that is a time in which the majority of people 
can live with.  So in your example, that 30 minutes would probably charge your 
phone to around 40%. 

I honestly don’t thing the attachment sticks out very for at all.  it is 
attached via a ribbon cable.  The receiver is smaller than a credit card and 
goes on the back of your phone, in between the phone and your case.  Sure, 
Apple has chosen not to add this functionality to their products yet but, what 
does that really mean?  For example, They’ve also never offered a computer with 
a blue ray player which is pretty common fair, and cellular data on their 
notebooks which is pretty common on high end  laptops.  They also waited to add 
LTE to the iPhone.  .

hth.

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On Nov 10, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Ricardo,
 
 I agree that it is cool, but I also believe that if wireless charging of a
 battery with the capacity of that of the iPhone was so advanced that Apple
 would have implemented it. This is exactly the kind of stuff Apple likes and
 while wireless charging has been around a long time (I had a Panasonic razor
 almost 15 years ago which you just stood in a cradle to charge it with no
 connection between the charging cradle and the razor) it is not widely
 adopted. As far as I know wireless charging is very slow and while this
 might be OK over night, I think it's not an option if your phone is a 21%
 and you need to run out in half an hour. If I plug my iPhone into an AC
 adapter for half an hour it probably charges from 21% to etween 50 and 60%
 and I doubt the wireless charger could do that.
 I would never buy an accessory which required me to have some gadget plugged
 into the lightning connector, chances are it's not something you would leave
 plugged in if you go out as even if it was small it still would stick out. I
 rather spend a few bucks and get 2 or 3 cables or for $10 I can get an
 actual AC adapter with Lightning connector from Monoprice.com.
 I bought two 10 foot Lightning cables and one of these adapters from
 Monoprice for a total investment of about $32 + I have the original 3 foot
 cable which I use on my computer or if I want to have a cable to use with my
 external battery. 
 I bet these wireless charging cradles, mats or cushions cost a lot more and
 I would still want at least 3, one at my office, one in my bedroom and 1 in
 my living room. At this point I find this clearly is in the gadget category.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:07 PM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: wireless charging of your iPhone.
 
 Yeah but, you would just leave this plugged in all the time.  I mean for me,
 I would have no reason to unplug it since I don't sync with my iTunes at
 all.  I think just putting your phone down on your desk to charge your
 device is pretty cool.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:21 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, don't see the point;  if you plug in that gismo, you might as 
 well plug in the charger, surely?
 
 rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:49 PM
 Subject: wireless charging of your iPhone.
 
 
 Hello list,
 
 I wanted to share this because I think it sounds pretty cool.  A lot 
 of high end phones have the ability  to be charged wirelessly.  
 Unfortunately, IOS devices are not one of them.  A group has started a 
 crowd fund raising campaign for a wireless charging receiver that 
 attaches to the lightning port of your IOS device.  Here goes the link 
 for more information.  I definitely will be picking one of these up.
 http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/iqi-mobile-wireless-charging-for-iph
 one
 
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Re: having problems finding the delete key

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Hello,

the delete key has been moved to above the 3 key.

hth

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On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Laura Bratton laurarbrat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I just updated my Iphone 5 to the latest IOS. Since I have updated, I am 
 having problems finding the delete key in the keypad. If I am typing in a 
 number to call, I cannot find the delete key. What am I doing wrong?
 Thanks for any help,
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Re: I want to manually manage music but my phone doesn't bring up a list of music

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Hi,

go to settings/general/usage and double tap on the music app.  Double tap edit, 
and double tap delete.

hth

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On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:34 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi,
 How do I clear my entire music library from the phone first before readding 
 stuff?
 Jen
 
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 Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: I want to manually manage music but my phone doesn't bring up a 
 list of music
 
 HI:
 Go to your phone in ITunes, check music, uncheck sink entire music
 library, check selected play lists artists and gendras, and you will
 be able to check any artists, albums or songs. HTH.
 
 On 10/24/13, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi,
 I got my phone backed up ok.
 Now I have to much music for it all to sync so I want to manage it manually.
 
 First of all when I go to about on my iPhone 4s it says there is 0 music but
 when I go in to the music app there are a whole bunch of songs.
 What do I need to do in itunes to make it so there is no music on my phone
 and then I can go through all my music and add what I want.
 I’ve tried unchecking music but I don’t even see anything that says manually
 manage music.
 I have the latest version of itunes, jaws 12, and an iPhone 4s running ios
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Re: iOs 7.03 is out

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Hi,

yes.  But you can update via iTunes right now.

hth

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On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Trea Abma trea.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 My phone can’t find it yet, but there is an update. Voiceover is mentioned 
 too, something is done about the sensivity of the screen.
 
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Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

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Hi,

I’m not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to an 
audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned down?  
Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard behavior.

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On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
 definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
 levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
 an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
 Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
 fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
 Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
 progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
 speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
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 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume
 and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
 phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
 loud. 
 
 Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
 setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.
 
 your help is very much appreciate
 
 Thanks in advance
 
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Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

So your saying, if for example, on your 4S, if you are listening to music and 
lower the volume, Voiceover volume isn’t lowered at the same time?  So then, 
you would eventually reach a state where your music volume was lowered all the 
way but, Voiceover volume is still the same?  I honestly can’t remember this 
behavior.  At least, not in IOS 6 or IOS 5.
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Ricardo,
 
 Normally it is not standard behavior that Voiceover volume is connected to
 the volume of music or an audio book that is playing. On my 4S I don't think
 I had this issue so I think it's less of an iOS 7 issue than a 5S issue.
 Anyways, consider this:
 
 I am playing an Audible book and I have my phone locked and before I locked
 it Voiceover was set to a comfortable volume.
 Now when the phone is locked I turn down the book way low.
 Now I press the home key to unlock the phone and suddenly Voiceover is so
 quiet that I can barely hear it.
 
 Also consider this:
 
 I raise volume on the volume rotor all the way to 35% which, as Ron pointed
 out, is as high as it will go.
 Now I do a 2-finger swipe up on the home screen to get Voiceover to start
 reading continuously and I now use the volume down button to lower Voiceover
 volume so I can just hear it.
 Now I check the volume rotor by flicking up and it is still at 35%.
 In the same way I can turn volume on the rotor down to 1% which is as low as
 it will go, then I get Voiceover to start speaking and I can use the volume
 up key to make it so loud that it distorts, but the rotor volume is still at
 1%.
 
 There is something very wrong, it's not a total dealbreaker and you just
 have to use the volume keys a lot to set your Voiceover volume where you
 want it since  you aren't able to set it independently or use the volume on
 the rotor to do so. The only place where it's annoying is during a phone
 call, but that part was never right on my 4S after iOS 5 so it's nothing new
 except that I hoped on the 5S it was once again possible to balance the
 volume of a call on speakerphone and Voiceover volume independently using
 the volume keys to turn call volume down and volume on the rotor to turn
 Voiceover volume up. I don't know if you have a 5S, but it definitely seems
 that this is the same for all 5S users and not one of these things which
 affects only a small percentage of users. Anyhow, I am fairly confident
 Apple will fix this, they may say they have no estimated time when this will
 be fixed, but I'm sure they prefer to say that even if they might have it
 fixed in the next update which I suspect will be out in a few weeks.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:09 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to
 an audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned
 down?  Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard
 behavior.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to
 increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
 definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
 levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
 an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is
 not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
 Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
 fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
 Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
 progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service
 and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
 speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls
 volume
 and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
 phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
 loud

Re: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I believe he is looking for an app for IOS not the Mac.

hth

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On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Tom, 
 
 How are you doing? This is what I have found out with many inquiries about 
 this. Office 2010  2013 is not accessible with VO. The solution that has 
 been suggested several times is for me to install VM on the back side of my 
 Air. since I still have my Dell functioning, I am accessing Office from there 
 to complete various tasks for work. The app that I have used on a 30 day free 
 trial to access Excel and is accessible with VO is called Tables. I am in the 
 process of ordering a single license for the Air. The interface is different 
 then Excel and it just takes a little bit to get use to. The price for a user 
 license is $43.54. I'll have to get the website for you, but I just Googled 
 Tables software for Mac. HTH. 
 
 Eileen   
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets. I 
 played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than it 
 was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.
 
 Tom
 
 - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver
 
 
 I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. 
 Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to 
 edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
 Thanks.
 Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.
 
 
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

[Ricardo Walker]

Uh,

lol. What are you talking about?

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On Oct 19, 2013, at 4:30 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Settings/iCloud/backup and storage/manage storage/backups:  you will find a 
 backup with a name,  the name of the device.
 
 Hunmnmnm,...now that's odd, I can't find a restore button now 
 either,  and this is still 6.1.3. what a pointless facility if you can't get 
 it back! It's pranks like this that will finally disillusion even the most 
 dedicated userbase.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Restoring From THE Cloud
 
 
 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking for. 
 I did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage backup, 
 no restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? Sorry, 
 just plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that I 
 posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore a 
 new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that the 
 current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that some 
 apps become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted others to 
 know this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always 
 get the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen reported 
 this a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that 
 if one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, 
 if one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should restore 
 from iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I will be 
 purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello,

right.  the ability to restore from an iCloud backup is only available during 
the setup of a device.  So, you either have to have got the phone brand new or, 
you or someone else have first gone to erase all content and settings and wiped 
the phone clean.   You will get a prompt asking if you want to set up as a new 
device or, use a backup.

hth

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On Oct 19, 2013, at 4:32 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 So one of the resets would offer it you,...   eventually?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Restoring From THE Cloud
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Restore from iCloud backup is an option found during the initial setup of an 
 IOS device.  Its not something you can do from settings.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
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 On Oct 18, 2013, at 4:17 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking 
 for. I did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, manage 
 backup, no restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but another word? 
 Sorry, just plain stuck which is where I've been since I got the iPad. 
 Thanks.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that 
 I posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore 
 a new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that 
 the current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that 
 some apps become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted 
 others to know this before using the cloud.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think you have this right.  If you restore from the cloud, you always 
 get the most recent version of an app.  I remember Jonathan Mosen 
 reported this a while back.
 
 Les
 On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I am posting a new thread for clarification. It is my understanding that 
 if one chooses to restore from the cloud that the apps placed on the new 
 device will be the current version of an app. First, Is this true? And, 
 if one wants certain apps to be an older versions that one should 
 restore from iTunes. Further explanation of this would be terrific, as I 
 will be purchasing a new phone in the near future.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 
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