Re: Face ID hit or miss

[SoonerAnnie]

>
> 
>I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the first 
> few days or
> 
>so it would asked for your password more often than Face ID. This 
> is so that
> 
>everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions you 
> receivedmake
> 
>sense. Keep us posted.
> 
> 
> 
>Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
> 
> 
> 
>On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber  <mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>Hello,
> 
> 
> 
>A couple of things to try:
> 
>* Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, straight 
> out in front
> 
>of you.
> 
>* If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
> 
>* If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it 
> again.
> 
>* Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. 
> Sometimes, skin
> 
>oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up to your 
> ear while on
> 
>a call.
> 
>* Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need to 
> enter your pin
> 
>again.
> 
> 
> 
>If none of these things help, I would probably go back to 
> where you bought
> 
>it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
> 
> 
> 
>On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
> mailto:sooneran...@att.net> > wrote:
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>Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
>Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 
> 13 mini and have
> 
>set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that 
> it'll work two
> 
>or three times and then will require me to use my pass 
> code to unlock my
> 
>phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back 
> in my SE 20 lol.
> 
>It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it with my 
> finger than to
> 
>pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock without 
> having to type in
> 
>my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks 
> for reading.
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Face ID hit or miss

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 


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Re: An NFL+ question

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

I thought I had gone through all the messages on this topic but I was mistaken. 
I saw what Christopher did to access the audio so will try that tonight. 
Thanks...and my apologies for unnecessarily cluttering the list. 

Take care and have a good weekend. 

Ann 


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> On Aug 19, 2022, at 3:21 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
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> Hi all, 
> Is anybody using the NFL app to listen to preseason games on iPhone? I know 
> audio broadcasts are supposed to be available when the games are live but I 
> have no idea where to find them! I find the video okay but the audio 
> completely eludes me. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. 
> Me thinks I'm going to have to find another way to listen to games. Oof. 
> 
> Ann 
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An NFL+ question

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 
Is anybody using the NFL app to listen to preseason games on iPhone? I know 
audio broadcasts are supposed to be available when the games are live but I 
have no idea where to find them! I find the video okay but the audio completely 
eludes me. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Me thinks I'm 
going to have to find another way to listen to games. Oof. 

Ann 


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Re: Word pronunciation with VoiceOver

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I am using the default Samantha voice and she mispronounces Holiday Inn also. 
As you said, it is particular phrases, not just the word holiday. For a long 
time, when she would see "Arizona Cardinals" she would  pronounce it "Arizona 
Cardotdinals". It got on my nerves so bad I changed it in the default. 


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> On Jun 27, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
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> It’s weird, she only seems to pronounce it incorrectly with the specific 
> phrase, “Holiday Inn” and not specifically just the word “Holiday.”  Sorry, I 
> should have clarified that, as well as the fact that I’m using Samantha’s 
> enhanced voice as well.
>  
> Sincerely,
> Loreal Lavigna
> General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist
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> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 5:01 PM
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> Subject: Re: Word pronunciation with VoiceOver
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I'm using Samantha enhanced for my voiceover voice. She seems to mispronounce 
> quite a few words. The one I hate the most is "onto" for the word on-to. But 
> to answer your question, yes she mispronounced the word holiday in your 
> email, but proof reading my reply, she pronounces the word holiday correctly.
>  
> Donna
> 
>  
> 
> I’m curious to know, has anyone else experienced the issue with Voiceover 
> incorrectly pronouncing “The Holiday Inn” to “The Holli.day Inn?”  I can 
> reproduce this on both my iPad and iPhone respectively.  I can certainly 
> change it of course, but wanted to know if anyone else is experiencing this 
> same VoiceOver issue.
>  
> Sincerely,
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Re: Anyone purchasing the new iPhone SE2022

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I did order the phone but unfortunately I am unable to report on battery status 
or anything else as it has not yet arrived at my home even though it was out 
for delivery with UPS last Friday, the 18th. They never showed up with it and 
the estimated date of delivery changed to Monday, the 21st. Where it once said 
out for delivery it now says on the way, and where the estimated date of 
delivery it says date will be provided soon. So, needless to say, I’m not a 
particularly happy camper! What happened to it after arriving in my home city? 
I’ve never had a problem like this one. If/when I get it, I’ll report. In the 
meantime, there are probably messages here that I haven’t yet gotten to which 
have the kind of info you are interested in lol. 

Take care everyone, 

Ann 


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> Not sure what the official name is, iPhone SE3 or iPhone SE2022. But I'm 
> wondering if anyone plans to upgrade to it since it comes out today? I'm 
> curious to see what battery life will be like with the A15 chip even though 
> not much is changing from the SE2020. And Will Apple be upgrading the speaker 
> system where it might sound a little better?  I do think that battery life 
> will be better as the A15 does a better job at managing processes on the 
> phone. So please let us know if anyone on list upgrades.
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Re: add me to dice world

[SoonerAnnie]

I love Dice World and SoonerAnnie is my user name. I will add everyone and will 
also check out the info Richard sent about the Dice World list. Thanks Richard. 

Ann 


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> On Nov 20, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Richard Turner  
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> Perhaps before this becomes a Dice World list, folks could check out:
> letsplaydicewo...@groups.io
> This is an announce only list for the Let's Play Dice World club on 
> Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/club/lets-play-dice-world 
> We will post upcoming events, tournament scores, and share Dice World user 
> names and game preferences so people can connect and play each other. We will 
> post any additional material such as any recordings of our events.
> Group Information
> 22 Members
> 24 Topics, Last Post: Nov 15
> Started on Jun 21
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> Richard
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> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
> kinds of good weather.” ~ John Ruskin
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> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 10:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: add me to dice world
> 
> Mine is chocoholic. I don't play yatzi or pig. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 20, 2021, at 12:09 PM, Curtis Delzer  wrote:
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>> If you play dice world, add me please? curtis1014, all except pig, or if 
>> you must . . .
>> 
>> and my wife Karen is karenkitty
>> 
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Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[SoonerAnnie]

Sandra, I think they do have the dotted overlays. 


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> On Sep 4, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Sandra Streeter  
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> 
> 
> One more thing—does AT Guys have a dotted overlay for it?
>  
>  
>  
> Sandra
>  
> Some of life's journeys must be undertaken alone, but no open highway can 
> soothe a battered soul like the open hearts of caring people.
> (Neil Peart, of the band Rush)
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
> Yates
> Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 03:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> I have had mine for over six months and I am very pleased with it. Size makes 
> it very easy to stick into my back pocket. The charging on wireless charger 
> works fine for me with no issues. The battery is, as has already been said, 
> Soso, but not a dealbreaker for me, really like mine.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> 
> It’s possible that your phone is moving from the coil
> I know my wifi charger is on a slight angle and the phone can slide off the 
> charger slightly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 3:45 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> It probably stops because you may bump or move it a bit so it's not aligned 
> correctly with the charging coyles in the pad.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: September 3, 2021 7:52 AM
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>  
>  I have one. I like the size. It 
> doesn’t always charge on my wireless charger which drives me batty.. and if 
> anybody knows how to fix this I’d love it. Some days it charges like a champ, 
> other days it says it’s charging then just quits for no reason I can figure 
> out. Annoying af!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
> Jordan
> Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:49 AM
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>  
> Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone which 
> will probably be in October or so. Wondering, since I’ve read that some of 
> you have had one for a while, what you think of it in general, and what the 
> battery life is like. Thanks for any info. You can write me off list if you 
> like. My email is pau...@roadrunner.com. Take care and stay safe.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: !those who have IPhone 12 mini

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Paula, 
I have had my 12 mini for about seven months, and really like its size. The 
battery life could be better, but overall it’s not too bad. Of course if you 
spend a lot of time on YouTube or Instagram it could drain the battery pretty 
quickly, but it also charges up rather quickly. I don’t use a battery case for 
this particular phone as they make it too bulky for my taste. I do keep a 
charger handy though. :) 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 3, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Still considering the Iphone mini when I finally purchase a new phone which 
> will probably be in October or so. Wondering, since I’ve read that some of 
> you have had one for a while, what you think of it in general, and what the 
> battery life is like. Thanks for any info. You can write me off list if you 
> like. My email is pau...@roadrunner.com. Take care and stay safe.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Braille screen input - was - Re: you mail

[SoonerAnnie]

I love Braille Screen Input! It’s so much faster for me than using the onscreen 
keyboard. It does take some getting used to at first, but when mastered, is 
great IMHO. But, as you said Richard, to each his or her own. :) 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I found using braille screen input rather easy to master.
> 
> But, to each his/her own.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: you mail
> 
> I have never used braille screen input.  I always use the regular on screen 
> keyboard.  I have no idea how to use braille screen input.  It sounds 
> difficult.
> 
>> On 8/10/21, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> No, I turned off my braille display, and also made sure my Orbit 
>> Writer was also off. Right now I'm using braille screen input with 
>> success here in this email. Perhaps a reboot will help. I have the 
>> iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 14.7.1.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ON an off chance, do you have a keyboard connected and the phone 
>>> thinks it is in quick nav?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C996617cff264489b8ac608d95c0ed8b4
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>>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
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>>> g83WufKm8%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: you mail
>>> 
>>> Well, when you open the app, and give it permissions like other apps 
>>> do, then it asks you to input your 10-digit phone number, followed by 
>>> an email and create a password, however, I'm having difficulty with 
>>> regards to inputting my phone number, all I hear is the sound one 
>>> here's when voiceover has reached the end of a screen and nothing is 
>>> in the text field though I've clearly double-tapped to make sure I was in 
>>> edit mode.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:14 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi for those of you who use the you mail app what is the best way to 
>>> set it up and do you have to pay for all of its futures?
>>> Or is the free version good enough?
>>> And then how do you set it up and then disable your voice mail so it 
>>> will use the you mail App?
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Re: Info I've learned about the Nenrent true wireless battery case for SE2020

[SoonerAnnie]

The Apple cases are the most seamless and uncomplicated of any cases ever! you 
need only your lightning cable to charge them. When you leave the phone in the 
case it charges the phone first and then the case. The case battery is used 
first, then the phone battery. Some people prefer to have control over when to 
charge their phones, but I like the fact that I don’t have to worry about 
charging anything till my phone shows a low battery. 

Ann 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2021, at 5:53 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have purchased the case and it does seem to charge the phone ok. I wish it 
> was like the apple case which just works and uses power, I think, from the 
> case first and then the phone but I’m not sure of that. The apple case 
> doesn’t have a switch or button.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 2:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Info I've learned about the Nenrent true wireless battery case 
> for SE2020
>  
> Have you purchased this case?  What do you think of it?  How do you turn the 
> apple case on and off?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
> Lumpkin
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 7:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Info I've learned about the Nenrent true wireless battery case for 
> SE2020
>  
> I’ve been posting questions on Amazon and getting answers and here’s what 
> I’ve learned so far.
>  
> When you place the phone into the case and plug it in with the USB C cable, 
> it charges the phone to capacity first and then the case.
> If you use the phone unplugged and in the case and in charging mode, it will 
> continue to charge the phone until the case is exhausted.
> It seems that the case is to be used as a power bank back-up to the phone and 
> not a smart battery case as the iphone 7 apple case would be used. You use 
> the phone with the case’s charging mode turned off by double-tapping the back 
> case button and single-tapping it when the phone needs to be re-charged. The 
> apple 7 apple smart case fits the SE and will I Believe use the phone’s power 
> first and then the cases.
> When you plug the phone/case combination into a port with the USB C Cable, 
> the phone charges first and then the case. I believe the charging ceases when 
> both have reached capacity.
> One person thought the induction or magnetic charging for the phone was 
> considerably slower than plugging the phone into a lightning cable and 
> charger but this wasn’t universally thought. Some thought the charging 
> process was very quick.
>  
>  
> That’s all I know. I may go back to the apple 7 smart case because its use 
> seems more seamless.
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Re: Inconsistent announcing of incoming calls by VoiceOver

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Dennis, 

Most of the time I am using my Apple airPods, with the same result as when I 
don’t use them. Sometimes calls are announced and sometimes they aren’t. As I 
said earlier, VO acts like it is going to read but then doesn’t. Sometimes when 
I silence the ringer by pressing one of the volume buttons, I can swipe and get 
the information, but most of the time when I swipe nothing happens, so even 
when I attempt to check the screen, VO doesn’t say anything. All was so very 
well before IOS14. 


I have even tried different ringtones lol. Not sure what would happen if I had 
no ringtone set but I’m afraid I wouldn’t hear the phone ring if I didn’t have 
the airPods in. Thanks for the suggestion though. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2021, at 1:23 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Ann are you using headphones?  If not try it for a day or 2 and see if calls 
> are announced.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 10:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Inconsistent announcing of incoming calls by VoiceOver
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Am I the only one on the planet who is having this problem? Since the IOS14 
> update, VoiceOver on  my SE-2020 sporadically announces incoming calls while 
> the screen is locked, but more than not, it says nothing. Sometimes it will 
> start to say incoming call, but will then just say “in” and then nothing. 
> Sometimes I can silence the ringer and then am able to swipe to see who is 
> calling. You have no idea how many hours I have spent attempting to resolve 
> this most annoying and frustrating issue! First...as someone suggested when I 
> posted about this several months ago...I made sure that full screen was 
> checked in notifications, although this apparently specifically referred to 
> when the screen was unlocked. I had set announce calls to never since 
> VoiceOver announced this in the past, but changing it to always didn’t make 
> it announce. 
> 
> Next, I tried adding new language, changing voices, etc., all to no avail! 
> So, I then restored my phone, hoping that would fix it, but that didn’t work 
> either. 
> 
> The only other thing I could think of was that possibly my SIM card might be 
> the problem, although I doubted it. It was five or six years old so I called 
> AT and ordered another one which, of course, did n’t resolve the issue. My 
> iPod, on the other hand, announces incoming calls just fine, so go figure! I 
> am really disappointed as having calls announced is one of the reasons I 
> enjoy a talking phone. 
> 
> If you have read this far, I thank you very much! If anybody has any 
> thoughts/suggestions/ideas, I would greatly appreciate it! With each 14 
> update my hopes rise, only to be crushed once again. I am beginning to wonder 
> if this is a permanent thing for me. 
> 
> Thanks in advance. 
> 
> Blessings, 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> 
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Inconsistent announcing of incoming calls by VoiceOver

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

Am I the only one on the planet who is having this problem? Since the IOS14 
update, VoiceOver on  my SE-2020 sporadically announces incoming calls while 
the screen is locked, but more than not, it says nothing. Sometimes it will 
start to say incoming call, but will then just say “in” and then nothing. 
Sometimes I can silence the ringer and then am able to swipe to see who is 
calling. You have no idea how many hours I have spent attempting to resolve 
this most annoying and frustrating issue! First...as someone suggested when I 
posted about this several months ago...I made sure that full screen was checked 
in notifications, although this apparently specifically referred to when the 
screen was unlocked. I had set announce calls to never since VoiceOver 
announced this in the past, but changing it to always didn’t make it announce. 

Next, I tried adding new language, changing voices, etc., all to no avail! So, 
I then restored my phone, hoping that would fix it, but that didn’t work 
either. 

The only other thing I could think of was that possibly my SIM card might be 
the problem, although I doubted it. It was five or six years old so I called 
AT and ordered another one which, of course, did n’t resolve the issue. My 
iPod, on the other hand, announces incoming calls just fine, so go figure! I am 
really disappointed as having calls announced is one of the reasons I enjoy a 
talking phone. 

If you have read this far, I thank you very much! If anybody has any 
thoughts/suggestions/ideas, I would greatly appreciate it! With each 14 update 
my hopes rise, only to be crushed once again. I am beginning to wonder if this 
is a permanent thing for me. 

Thanks in advance. 

Blessings, 

Ann 


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Re: Hulu again

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Chris and Mary, 

No problems whatsoever on my 10R. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2?
> 
> Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with?
> 
> I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same 
>> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the 
>> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear 
>> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
>>> What phone are you using?
>>> 
>>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
> 
> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with 
> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will 
> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the 
> future updates to the app.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu 
>> will work
>> normally.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but 
>> if I flick
>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag 
>> my finger
>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but 
>> it didn't.
>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that 
>> is the Siri
>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>> through
>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
>> episode
>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
>> itself. So it’s
>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>> mattered,
>> but it might.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
>>> the show titles.
>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
>>> 
>>> This is what seems to happen.
>>> 
>>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
>>> why I say this.
>>> 
>>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
>>> options button.
>>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
>>> the next 

Re: Problem concerning IOS14.2 and VO not announcing incoming calls

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi, 

I tried that a couple of days ago and it seemed to help for a bit, but 
then...back to the same old, same old. Thanks for the suggestion. 


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> On Nov 21, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Go to settings/phone and make sure incoming calls is set to full screen. This 
> should hopefully help your issues.
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 3:58 AM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If this has already been mentioned, I sincerely apologize for bringing it up 
>> yet again. 
>> 
>> I am running IOS14.2 on my SE2020. Occasionally...when a call comes in...VO 
>> will announce it as usual, but...more often than not...it doesn’t say a 
>> word! And when I attempt to see who is calling, the phone just clicks as I 
>> swipe across the screen. If anyone else has experienced this and may have a 
>> suggestion, I’m all ears. I even set announce calls to always to see if that 
>> voice would kick in, but no luck. Any thoughts and/or suggestions would be 
>> greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... 
>> 
>> Ann 
>> 
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Problem concerning IOS14.2 and VO not announcing incoming calls

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all,

If this has already been mentioned, I sincerely apologize for bringing it up 
yet again. 

I am running IOS14.2 on my SE2020. Occasionally...when a call comes in...VO 
will announce it as usual, but...more often than not...it doesn’t say a word! 
And when I attempt to see who is calling, the phone just clicks as I swipe 
across the screen. If anyone else has experienced this and may have a 
suggestion, I’m all ears. I even set announce calls to always to see if that 
voice would kick in, but no luck. Any thoughts and/or suggestions would be 
greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... 

Ann 


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Re: Can’t watch videos on facebook friends have posted

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And I suppose they aren’t muted? Sometimes I have that problem. I can’t imagine 
what you would be doing wrong. Keep hoping someone else will chime in with a 
suggestion that works. I assume you have rebooted your phone and closed 
Facebook in the app switcher, then reopened it? Good luck. 


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> Hi,
> Yes they have sound.
> Jen
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>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 4:33 PM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
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>> Hi Jen, 
>> 
>> Are you certain the videos have sound? Sometimes they don’t. Just a 
>> suggestion, of course. :) 
>> 
>> Ann 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 12:20 AM, Jen .  wrote:
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>>> Hi I have an iPhone 8 and running the latest version of ios.
>>> A friend has posted some videos on Facebook which I would like to watch but 
>>> I’m not able to do this.  When I go to the video and double tap nothing 
>>> happens just I get descriptions of the images so I turn off image 
>>> navigation and still I get the same issue so wonder what I am doing wrong 
>>> or is this a known bug and are others having the same problem.
>>> Thanks.
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Re: am I missing something?????

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Yes, my friend, you are missing something. :) 


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Re: Can’t watch videos on facebook friends have posted

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Hi Jen, 

Are you certain the videos have sound? Sometimes they don’t. Just a suggestion, 
of course. :) 

Ann 

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> A friend has posted some videos on Facebook which I would like to watch but 
> I’m not able to do this.  When I go to the video and double tap nothing 
> happens just I get descriptions of the images so I turn off image navigation 
> and still I get the same issue so wonder what I am doing wrong or is this a 
> known bug and are others having the same problem.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?

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Samantha exclusively, including Voice Dream Reader. :) 

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> On Jun 13, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:
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> Alex is my favorite I was so excited when we had him added to the mix into 
> thousand 14. I also like the US Siri mail and the new were female Siri voice. 
> I like the new south African Siri voices as well. However Alex is my all-time 
> favorite.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kerry
> 
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>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>> 
>> I also use Alex. And I also like James quite a lot and I would strongly 
>> consider switching to it if I could.
>> But truth to tell, if I could get Eloquence for my iPad Mini, I'd buy it.
>> Evan
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 4:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
>> 
>> I have been using Alex for a long time. Tom is OK. Truth to tell, if Apple 
>> would ever let me use the James voice I use in voice dream reader, I would 
>> be a happy camper. I’m not going to hold my breath and wait for that to 
>> happen.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
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>>> I like alex and Samantha is also good. From Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mama 
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>>> Sent: June 10, 2019 4:15 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
>>> 
>>> I prefer Alex myself.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Subject: Re: What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over?
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>>> Hi,
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>>> My husband, Marcus, and I prefer to use Tom.
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 On 6/10/2019 3:30 PM, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone wrote:
 What is every ones fave voice they like to use for voice over? I like
 to us e Ava.I find her very natural
 
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Re: Hello, glad to be on this list

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Hi Joshua, 
Welcome to the list! You will love it here! People are knowledgable, and 
friendly and more than happy to help. I am currently using an iPhone 8, and 
love it! You may feel overwhelmed at first, but that won’t last long. Your 
rookie season will be over before you know it. :) 

Ann 

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> to try a smart phone.  At first, I was thinking about an android
> phone, but since so many blind people have Iphones and that training
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Re: A question about AirPods I have a friend who is using AirPods. She says she cannot play her voicemail messages through them. Can anyone tell me why this might be, and what she needs to change in o

[SoonerAnnie]

I, too, have this annoying problem. Hopefully someone has an answer/suggestion 
to resolve this pain in the rear. 

Thanks in advance... 

Ann 

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Re: Passcode issues

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My problem is that since the latest IOS update, my IPhone 8 often doesn't 
recognize my fingerprint and makes me enter my password, which is incredibly 
annoying! It used to be really reliable with the two fingerprints I set up, but 
now, I never know when it's going to work and when it isn't. A couple of days 
ago I deleted my fingerprints and re-entered them, but that hasn't helped much. 
Disappointing for sure. 


Ann 

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> On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:35 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the same 
> problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving me crazy!  
> Did you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they told you? Have you 
> tried going back to the home screen when the face id doesn’t work, and when 
> it continuously asks for your passcode? I now find when it asks me for my 
> pass code, and if I swipe up from the very bottom of the screen just a little 
> until I feel the first vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face 
> id option again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve 
> also noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the phone 
> will not unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, I have a much 
> better chance of unlocking the phone.  Strange I know, but it is what it is!  
> Smile! 
> Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face id 
> myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in my left 
> hand, and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this device, so I 
> thought ok I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and I used my right 
> hand then, and sure enough, the face id feature was accepted.  Who knows, but 
> I must not be holding the phone directly in front of my face when using my 
> left hand.  Go figure.   Smile!  I would like to know how your phone is now 
> working though. 
> Janet
>  
> Janet
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie N.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Passcode issues
>  
> It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
> constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
> longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
> that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the 
> face ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time 
> the screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
> accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode issues
>  
> Hello Marie,
>  
> I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is 
> it maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
> N.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Passcode issues
>  
> In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
> powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
> enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the 
> need to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section 
> about when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why 
> is that the only selection and is there any way to change it?
> Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
> Thanks,
> Marie
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Re: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger

[SoonerAnnie]

Robin, I know what you are saying. If the phone is locked, you get a 
notification that a message has come in, and it is even read by VoiceOver; 
however, if you are in a chat...sending messages back and forth...there is no 
indication that the other person has sent a message unless you swipe and see if 
you can locate one. Kind of a pain, but doable. Perhaps in the near future they 
can get VoiceOver to read as it does in Messages. 

Regards, 

Ann 

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> On Nov 4, 2018, at 12:26 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Yes that’s true but if you lock the phone the sighted people with whom you 
> might happen to be chatting think you’ve disappeared or are no longer 
> available to chat. That’s what they kept saying to me yesterday.
> Thanks for the correction perhaps I was mistaken that this app ever voiced in 
> coming messages. Still seems strange that it wasn’t or couldn’t be designed 
> to do so.  I hadn’t any vibrations on my device. Doe this occur if you 
> haven’t vibrations turned on in settings and sounds?
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Donna
> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger
>  
> The Facebook Messenger app can be set to read messages by voiceover when you 
> receive a message on the lock screen of your device. Just go to Settings, 
> Notifications & swipe down to Messenger.
>  
> Donna
>  
>> You may be thinking of the Messages app, which does read incoming messages. 
>> Facebook never has done this, unfortunately. The only way to know if a new 
>> message has come in is to try to feel the phone vibration which happens when 
>> a new message comes in, and hope it’s from the chat you’re in at the time.
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> Funny you mention this  as just yesterday I was in this app and noted that 
>>> it doesn’t read in coming messages automatically at least not by me.  The 
>>> only way I could get alerted to new messages was to lock the phone but then 
>>> the sighted person with whom I was speaking kept saying I was disappearing 
>>> in terms of their view. I thought the app used to read in coming messages 
>>> as they arrived but perhaps my memory is faulty on this one. Are there any 
>>> work-arounds for this?
>>> Robin
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Davy Cuppens
>>> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 3:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: big regressions in accessibility facebook messenger
>>>  
>>> Hi folks
>>>  
>>> It is no longer possible to delete messages in messenger using the rotor 
>>> tasks. However, you can click on delete message but nothing happens. If you 
>>> hold and release after the 3 progress beeps you can access the menu for 
>>> that person but there seems to be no option to delete the conversation.
>>>  
>>> For the users of itunes 12.6.3 it makes no sense to roll back to a previous 
>>> version of the app because when reinstalling the app on your phone you are 
>>> prompted to update the app otherwise it won’t work anymore.
>>> Please report this bug to facebook accessibility.
>>> Regards
>>> Davy
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Re: Link for GameDay College Football Radio

[SoonerAnnie]

You can also pick up the college basketball games with this app, provided they 
aren't playing football and basketball at the same time. 

Ann 

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> On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:43 AM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> GameDay College Football Radio by Thanh Ho
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-college-football-radio/id1046345589?mt=8
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Re: A responsive app developer

[SoonerAnnie]

Unfortunately, this is the case. And...even after I renamed them...they all 
still say Gameday in the app switcher if you have more than one open. But...if 
that's the only complaint I can come up with, this is a minor annoyance. 

Ann 

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> On Oct 18, 2018, at 2:24 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> The only thing is that after you have downloaded these apps if you keep them 
> in the same folder you might want to rename them because they will all show 
> up as Gameday.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: SoonerAnnie
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: A responsive app developer
> 
> Before writing to the app developer, I decided to go to the app store and see 
> if it would let me share the college football and pro basketball apps, which, 
> for some reason, it didn’t before. And...voila! No problem. Enjoy! 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:32 AM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
>> 
>> I have communicated with this app developer in the past and also got a quick 
>> response. I have the college app and also the pro basketball app, but when I 
>> attempted to share the link from the app store, it didn’t show up. Shall I 
>> write to the developer and see why that might be happening? I love all three 
>> of these apps! 
>> 
>> Ann  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool Richard that a response was so fast in coming.  That doesn’t happen 
>>> often.
>>> Vivian
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:05 PM
>>> To: ViPone list 
>>> Subject: A responsive app developer
>>> I wrote the developer of the Game Day app about the standings page asking 
>>> if it could be made easier to read with VoiceOver, but also letting him 
>>> know how much I appreciate the app.
>>> He responded within a day. Here is his reply which I greatly appreciate:
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> Thank you first and foremost for the download and kind words. I love that 
>>> this app has made such an impact on so many users around the world. As for 
>>> the Standings page that is actually a page that I have linked to from ESPN. 
>>> Unfortunately I have not built a native page for this yet. I do plan on it 
>>> sometime in the future but just have not gotten around to it yet. I'm glad 
>>> you have found great use with the app. I have some many users that have 
>>> stuck with it for 3-4 years now and in the last few years have learned that 
>>> I have a major following in the blind community because of the friendly 
>>> voiceover capabilities.
>>> Thank you!
>>> Donga Labs
>>> Richard
>>> xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. 
>>> Utah Phillips
>>> 礪
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Re: A responsive app developer

[SoonerAnnie]

Before writing to the app developer, I decided to go to the app store and see 
if it would let me share the college football and pro basketball apps, which, 
for some reason, it didn’t before. And...voila! No problem. Enjoy! 

Ann 

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> On Oct 18, 2018, at 11:32 AM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> I have communicated with this app developer in the past and also got a quick 
> response. I have the college app and also the pro basketball app, but when I 
> attempted to share the link from the app store, it didn’t show up. Shall I 
> write to the developer and see why that might be happening? I love all three 
> of these apps! 
> 
> Ann  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
>> 
>> Cool Richard that a response was so fast in coming.  That doesn’t happen 
>> often.
>>  
>> Vivian
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:05 PM
>> To: ViPone list 
>> Subject: A responsive app developer
>>  
>> I wrote the developer of the Game Day app about the standings page asking if 
>> it could be made easier to read with VoiceOver, but also letting him know 
>> how much I appreciate the app.
>> He responded within a day. Here is his reply which I greatly appreciate:
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> Thank you first and foremost for the download and kind words. I love that 
>> this app has made such an impact on so many users around the world. As for 
>> the Standings page that is actually a page that I have linked to from ESPN. 
>> Unfortunately I have not built a native page for this yet. I do plan on it 
>> sometime in the future but just have not gotten around to it yet. I'm glad 
>> you have found great use with the app. I have some many users that have 
>> stuck with it for 3-4 years now and in the last few years have learned that 
>> I have a major following in the blind community because of the friendly 
>> voiceover capabilities.
>>  
>> Thank you!
>>  
>> Donga Labs
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. 
>> Utah Phillips
>>  
>>  
>> 礪
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Link to GameDay Pro Basketball Radio

[SoonerAnnie]

GameDay Pro Basketball Radio - Live Games, Scores, Highlights, News, Stats, and 
Schedules by Thanh Ho
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-pro-basketball-radio-live-games-scores-highlights/id1050829534?mt=8


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Link for GameDay College Football Radio

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GameDay College Football Radio by Thanh Ho
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-college-football-radio/id1046345589?mt=8


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Re: A responsive app developer

[SoonerAnnie]

I have communicated with this app developer in the past and also got a quick 
response. I have the college app and also the pro basketball app, but when I 
attempted to share the link from the app store, it didn’t show up. Shall I 
write to the developer and see why that might be happening? I love all three of 
these apps! 

Ann  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> Cool Richard that a response was so fast in coming.  That doesn’t happen 
> often.
>  
> Vivian
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:05 PM
> To: ViPone list 
> Subject: A responsive app developer
>  
> I wrote the developer of the Game Day app about the standings page asking if 
> it could be made easier to read with VoiceOver, but also letting him know how 
> much I appreciate the app.
> He responded within a day. Here is his reply which I greatly appreciate:
> Hi Richard,
>  
> Thank you first and foremost for the download and kind words. I love that 
> this app has made such an impact on so many users around the world. As for 
> the Standings page that is actually a page that I have linked to from ESPN. 
> Unfortunately I have not built a native page for this yet. I do plan on it 
> sometime in the future but just have not gotten around to it yet. I'm glad 
> you have found great use with the app. I have some many users that have stuck 
> with it for 3-4 years now and in the last few years have learned that I have 
> a major following in the blind community because of the friendly voiceover 
> capabilities.
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Re: iPhone 8 or iPhone 8Plus

[SoonerAnnie]

I have an iPhone 8 and love it! I also have an Apple Smart Battery Case to help 
supplement the battery. Works great for me. 

Ann 

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> On Oct 1, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I generally don’t like big phones. I have a 7+, and the only reason I got the 
> plus was for the battery. It’s big. It’s not a one hand operation. Unless of 
> course you put the phone on something and then you can still do it with one 
> hand. But there is no way in the world I would go walking around trying to 
> operate this thing with one hand like you could with the smaller phone. But 
> since battery was a big thing to me, and I use my phone all whole life, I 
> went with a plus.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 5:00 PM, lenron brown  wrote:
>> 
>> I love the size of the plus. Feels great in the hand. Check them both
>> out, and go from there. My hands are not huge or anything but the 8
>> just feels small.
>> 
>>> On 10/1/18, Dave  wrote:
>>> which ever one suits your purpose best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:41 PM
>>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone 8 or iPhone 8Plus
>>> 
>>> All:
>>> 
>>> 256GB iPhone 8, or 8Plus? Which should I buy?
>>> 
>>> Any buyers remorse from either phone? If so, why?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Sending messages on the iphone with ios12

[SoonerAnnie]

Well, I will admit that it came in handy back in August when I sent my cousin a 
Starbucks gift card for her birthday LOL. But...for the most part, I keep them 
hidden and out of my way. 

Ann 

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> On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  That seemed to do the trick.  Wow, how annoying.  I mean maybe 
> it’s me, but why not keep the messages app simple?  I mean it is for sending 
> messages after all.  I don’t need to launch fancy apps in the process if you 
> know what i mean
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jed,
>> The send button is still above the p on the screen, but you are running into 
>> the issue that was added with iOS 11, the list of messaging apps. If you 
>> flick with one finger to the left from your message text, you should have a 
>> button that says something like "messaging apps, visible" double tap on that 
>> and it should switch to hidden and those annoying apps will vanish.
>> The old method was to double tap and hold and then swipe down on that 
>> button. But the double tap should work now.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the 
>> right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - 
>> Dorothy Nevill
>> 
>> 
>> [Sent from my little hand-held computer]
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:11 AM, Kimber Gardner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's called the app drawer. Totally useless for me so I turn it off.
>>> Unfortunately I can't remember how I did it, but I'm sure someone will
>>> pop up with instructions.
>>> 
 On 9/19/18, Jed Barton  wrote:
 Hey guys.  Ok, hoping that some of you can help.  I just installed the
 latest ios12.  Seems to work pretty well.  However i am seeing something
 that although small seems to be rather annoying.  My send button on my
 screen, it seems to be harder to get to when i send a message.  Where it 
 use
 to be in IOS 11, there is other junk, like other programs it wants to
 launch.  Anyone else experienced this, and where can i find the send button
 Am i the only 1 seeing this?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi - I was going to share the links to the other two apps but apparently it 
won’t let me. I tried searching for them in the app store but they didn’t show 
up. They are all three named GameDay but are designated as Pro Football, 
College Football, and Pro Basketball. The college one worked on my iPhone last 
week but haven’t tried the pro basketball yet this season. Guess they are no 
longer offering the other two, so maybe they won’t keep them updated either. So 
sorry guys! 

Ann...Big Red Girl 
Boomer Sooner
Be Red See Red 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 9, 2018, at 1:55 AM, SoonerAnnie  wrote:
> 
> You are very welcome! Looking forward to a good report. Happy listening! I’ll 
> sure have mine going. Can’t wait! 
> 
> Ann...Big Red girl 
> Boomer Sooner 
> Be Red See Red 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2018, at 10:18 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, have downloaded the app, looking forward to lots of games tomorrow 
>> and the Lions on Monday. Will let you all know how well it works.
>>  
>> Fred
>> - Original Message -
>> From: SoonerAnnie
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 3:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>> 
>> Andy, I, too, have the GameDay app, and I absolutely love it! They also have 
>> apps for college football and pro basketball, which I also have. There are 
>> ads that you have to swipe past, but it's no big deal to me, especially 
>> since the apps are so inexpensive with no subscriptions. Here is the link to 
>> the NFL Gameday app in the app store: 
>> GameDay Pro Football Radio by Thanh Ho
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-pro-football-radio/id928579927?mt=8
>> 
>> Enjoy! 
>> 
>> Ann...Big Red girl! 
>> 
>> Boomer Sooner 
>> Be Red, See Red 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have an app called Game Day. I can't remember how much it cost, but it 
>>> was cheap, around 3 dollars. You get multiple feeds for all of the teams. I 
>>> think it is a rebranding of the Pro Football Radio app. I do have that one 
>>> as well, and it still works, even though coverage was spotty during the 
>>> preseason because many stations don't stream the preseason games.
>>> Sirius XM is another alternative as well as Tunein Radio Premium.
>>>  
>>> Andy
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alan Paganelli
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 5:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>> 
>>> The problem with the NFL is they aren’t giving anything away for free if 
>>> you want to listen to NFL football you need to buy the entire package it 
>>> isn’t cheap and it isn’t fair  The NFL package was you get to watch the 
>>> games on TV which does me no good being totally like you also get coaches 
>>> watches which is also useless the only part of the package at a useful for 
>>> me is the radio broadcast where you hear the announcers describe the games 
>>> you used to be able to get that one alone for 40 bucks for the entire 
>>> season but now they want you to pay for the whole package which is $99.99  
>>> I am not paying them 100 bucks just to listen to Chicago bears lose again 
>>> or any other team for that matter it isn’t worth 100 bucks for a blind man  
>>> The best thing the end FL can do is to fire Roger get Dale he is the one 
>>> who started this where everything has to cost money
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> perhaps allfootball?
>>>> I remember it working.
>>>> Live  simply,
>>>>   Love generously,
>>>>   Care  deeply,
>>>>   Speak  kindly 
>>>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>>>  Please join me on
>>>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>>>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we 
>>>> can build a site to be proud of. 
>>>>  
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: kellmast...@gmail.com
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>>> 
>>>> A co

Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad

[SoonerAnnie]

You are very welcome! Looking forward to a good report. Happy listening! I’ll 
sure have mine going. Can’t wait! 

Ann...Big Red girl 
Boomer Sooner 
Be Red See Red 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 9, 2018, at 10:18 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, have downloaded the app, looking forward to lots of games tomorrow 
> and the Lions on Monday. Will let you all know how well it works.
>  
> Fred
> - Original Message -
> From: SoonerAnnie
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 3:05 AM
> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
> 
> Andy, I, too, have the GameDay app, and I absolutely love it! They also have 
> apps for college football and pro basketball, which I also have. There are 
> ads that you have to swipe past, but it's no big deal to me, especially since 
> the apps are so inexpensive with no subscriptions. Here is the link to the 
> NFL Gameday app in the app store: 
> GameDay Pro Football Radio by Thanh Ho
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-pro-football-radio/id928579927?mt=8
> 
> Enjoy! 
> 
> Ann...Big Red girl! 
> 
> Boomer Sooner 
> Be Red, See Red 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> I have an app called Game Day. I can't remember how much it cost, but it was 
>> cheap, around 3 dollars. You get multiple feeds for all of the teams. I 
>> think it is a rebranding of the Pro Football Radio app. I do have that one 
>> as well, and it still works, even though coverage was spotty during the 
>> preseason because many stations don't stream the preseason games.
>> Sirius XM is another alternative as well as Tunein Radio Premium.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alan Paganelli
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 5:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>> 
>> The problem with the NFL is they aren’t giving anything away for free if you 
>> want to listen to NFL football you need to buy the entire package it isn’t 
>> cheap and it isn’t fair  The NFL package was you get to watch the games on 
>> TV which does me no good being totally like you also get coaches watches 
>> which is also useless the only part of the package at a useful for me is the 
>> radio broadcast where you hear the announcers describe the games you used to 
>> be able to get that one alone for 40 bucks for the entire season but now 
>> they want you to pay for the whole package which is $99.99  I am not paying 
>> them 100 bucks just to listen to Chicago bears lose again or any other team 
>> for that matter it isn’t worth 100 bucks for a blind man  The best thing the 
>> end FL can do is to fire Roger get Dale he is the one who started this where 
>> everything has to cost money
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5s
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> perhaps allfootball?
>>> I remember it working.
>>> Live  simply,
>>>   Love generously,
>>>   Care  deeply,
>>>   Speak  kindly 
>>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>>  Please join me on
>>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: kellmast...@gmail.com
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>>> 
>>> A couple of years ago I recommended Pro Football Radio & Live Scores 
>>> +Highlights by JJACR Apps, LLC to a client to listen to football games.  It 
>>> worked for him for a long time but he says this is no-longer the case. Is 
>>> there an app that is accessible with VoiceOver on an old iPad that will 
>>> deliver the audio of all the upcoming pro games? It doesn’t have to be 
>>> free, but I don’t think he has XM Radio or anything else like that.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kelly Hill
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Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad

[SoonerAnnie]

Andy, I, too, have the GameDay app, and I absolutely love it! They also have 
apps for college football and pro basketball, which I also have. There are ads 
that you have to swipe past, but it's no big deal to me, especially since the 
apps are so inexpensive with no subscriptions. Here is the link to the NFL 
Gameday app in the app store: 
GameDay Pro Football Radio by Thanh Ho
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gameday-pro-football-radio/id928579927?mt=8

Enjoy! 

Ann...Big Red girl! 

Boomer Sooner 
Be Red, See Red 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> I have an app called Game Day. I can't remember how much it cost, but it was 
> cheap, around 3 dollars. You get multiple feeds for all of the teams. I think 
> it is a rebranding of the Pro Football Radio app. I do have that one as well, 
> and it still works, even though coverage was spotty during the preseason 
> because many stations don't stream the preseason games.
> Sirius XM is another alternative as well as Tunein Radio Premium.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Paganelli
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
> 
> The problem with the NFL is they aren’t giving anything away for free if you 
> want to listen to NFL football you need to buy the entire package it isn’t 
> cheap and it isn’t fair  The NFL package was you get to watch the games on TV 
> which does me no good being totally like you also get coaches watches which 
> is also useless the only part of the package at a useful for me is the radio 
> broadcast where you hear the announcers describe the games you used to be 
> able to get that one alone for 40 bucks for the entire season but now they 
> want you to pay for the whole package which is $99.99  I am not paying them 
> 100 bucks just to listen to Chicago bears lose again or any other team for 
> that matter it isn’t worth 100 bucks for a blind man  The best thing the end 
> FL can do is to fire Roger get Dale he is the one who started this where 
> everything has to cost money
> 
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
>> 
>> perhaps allfootball?
>> I remember it working.
>> Live  simply,
>>   Love generously,
>>   Care  deeply,
>>   Speak  kindly
>>   And  leave the rest to God! 
>>  Please join me on
>> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com 
>> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we can 
>> build a site to be proud of. 
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: kellmast...@gmail.com
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Listening to Pro Football on iPad
>> 
>> A couple of years ago I recommended Pro Football Radio & Live Scores 
>> +Highlights by JJACR Apps, LLC to a client to listen to football games.  It 
>> worked for him for a long time but he says this is no-longer the case. Is 
>> there an app that is accessible with VoiceOver on an old iPad that will 
>> deliver the audio of all the upcoming pro games? It doesn’t have to be free, 
>> but I don’t think he has XM Radio or anything else like that.
>> Thanks!
>> Kelly Hill
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Re: Question regarding apps and being in alphabetical order

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Terri, 

I am also one who prefers apps in alphabetical order. You do have to reset the 
home screen periodically after you have added new apps to your phone...either 
that, or individually move them where they belong. I find that if there are 
several I have installed, resetting my home screen is the most efficient way to 
do this. 

Ann  

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> On Aug 17, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
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> Hello Julian,
> 
> Thank you so very much! That fixed it. Awesome! I guess when I updated the 
> phone a while back, that it changed this. That’s the only thing I can figure 
> anyway.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Terri
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS
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> From: 30441170740n behalf of 
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>  
> Hi Terry,
> 
> There is a place to reset your home screen layout. You can find this by going 
> to settings, general, reset, then choose reset home screen layout. Hope that 
> helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
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>>  Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I while back, I noticed that all of my apps on my phone were in alphabetical 
>> order. When I would go through the pages. I love this!
>>  However, I have recently added a few more apps to my phone. I restarted the 
>> phone, in hopes that they would be in alphabetical order as well. However, 
>> now things don’t seem to be the same.
>> Is there a way to fix this? How can I have my apps back in alphabetical 
>> order? Especially when I add a new app to my phone.
>> 
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Terri 
>> 
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Re: switching to ios only

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I, too, use only my iPhone! It is so much easier for me, and I can take it 
anywhere! I do have a Bluetooth keyboard which I use when I am doing a lot of 
typing, and, since my Windows laptop bit the dust a couple years ago, I haven’t 
been all that interested in getting a new one, especially since I would have to 
learn a new Windows system and figure out if I wanted to keep pouring money 
into Jaws. I am not doing anything that would necessitate using Word, Excel, 
etc., so am very happy with IOS! As others have said, it is a personal choice 
based on your preferences and needs. 

Ann 

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> On May 23, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Check out episode 429 of the Mac Power users podcast where they go on a deep 
> dive with the iWork suite. 
> 
> Sent from my sprint iPhone X!!!
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>> On May 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
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>> I am one person who basically uses ios only.  I have a bluetooth keyboard 
>> for when I have to do a good bit of typing.  i really think it depends on 
>> the individual and what y need to do.  I have a windows computer, but very 
>> seldom turn it on.  Again I say, there is no correct answer.  It just 
>> depends on what you want to do.  
>> My husband is sighted and still uses his computer all of the time.  He likes 
>> it better and he prefers the bigger screen.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 23, 2018, at 3:15 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
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>>> Hi everyone, My mac is getting rather old and I notice that I use it less 
>>> and less. I have been thinking about just sticking with ios and not getting 
>>> a laptop at all anymore but that is a big step. I have had laptops since 
>>> 1998 but Iuse mine so seldomly that would be a bit of a waste of money. 
>>> Still its a big jump, are there people who have done this already and what 
>>> are your experiences?
>>> Can office on ios be used?
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Supplementing my iPhone with an iPod: Good Idea?

[SoonerAnnie]

I kept an iPhone 6S when I upgraded to an iPhone 7, and I use it all the time. 
I have it muted and set on do not disturb because when I’m reading or listening 
to ball games, I don’t want them being interrupted by notifications, texts, 
calls, etc., that frequently come in on my primary phone. I am running beta IOS 
on the backup phone but not on my primary phone, just in case what has been 
downloaded has bugs in it. That way I can check it out but not get stuck if 
it’s something that presents a problem. I keep them both updated, which really 
isn’t that big a deal since I use them both all the time. Of course, since my 
backup phone no longer has a SIM card, I can only use it with WIFI, but that’s 
no problem. If I am listening to a football or basketball game in the car, for 
example, obviously I have to use my primary phone and hope I don’t get a call 
to interrupt it. LOL! So, as everyone else has been saying, it is most 
definitely a matter of preference. 

Ann 

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> On Jan 23, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Victor Gouveia  wrote:
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> Craig, if I'm not mistaken, an iPod Touch has all the same features of an 
> iPhone, but without the phone app which can be easily supplemented by Skype 
> or one of the other internet based services.
> 
> Mind you, you could only use it in a Wi-Fi environment, as I don't believe 
> they have a cellular model of iPod Touch, but I could be wrong.
> 
> Victor
> 
> -Original Message- From: Craig Werner
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> Subject: Supplementing my iPhone with an iPod: Good Idea?
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> Much of what I use my iPhone for can just as well be accomplished with
> an iPod.  I spend a lot of time listening to music and e-books,
> neither of which requires the services of an iPhone.  I'm curious to
> hear from those of you who own both devices.  Do you find your are
> using your iPod often?  Do you regret the purchase?
> 
> Thank you for all help.
> 
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Re: From Moderator Mark: I just Want You All To Know

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Well said, Mark...thanks! The feeling is very, very mutual! Hugs! 

Ann Larson 


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> On Dec 25, 2017, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
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> In an age of political correctness, it's gotten so that I'm almost afraid to
> wish anyone a Merry Christmas so I'll just say that I hope you all had a
> pleasant December 25th and are enjoying your holiday season.
> 
> As for me, I had a very pleasant Christmas, this year.
> 
> I want you all to know that I found myself thinking about you, today.  Many,
> many of your names came to mind as I was enjoying my Christmas dinner;
> wondering how your day was going, hoping you were happy, etc.
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> you how greatful I am that you and I are in this world at the same time.  
> 
> Being visually impaired is never easy even when some days go by more easily
> than others.  
> 
> Be that as it may, I want you to know that it helps me a great deal to know
> that I do not struggle with my visual challenges alone; that somewhere out
> there, you are with me in spirit.  
> 
> As I have said on many occasions, we, you and I are brothers and sisters on
> this path of accessability exploration and expansion and for that, I am
> truly grateful.
> 
> Okay, I'll step down off of my proverbial soapbox and return you to your
> regularly scheduled email posting (smile).
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> Your Brother on the Path,
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Re: iPhone voices

[SoonerAnnie]

Um...am I the only one here who actually prefers Samantha’s compact voice?!? 
LOL. 

Ann 

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> On Aug 16, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I usually use Tom on my iPhone. I would like to use Alex but he has one 
> problem that really bothers me. If a word is in all caps he spells it out 
> rather than reading the word. This makes it difficult to read twitter and 
> sometimes it makes it difficult to read emails.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
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>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 3:21 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi I like and use Alex because he is suitable for my hearing impairment 
>> which is profound in one and modewrately severe in the other. I use him on 
>> all supported devices.
>>> On 15 Aug 2017, at 15:40, Casey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi since we have A number of voices now to select that the iPhone has now.
>>> Like Alex and Ava and the old one that the phone first came with.
>>> What all are you liking for you go to voice?
>>> I know a lot of you like Alex on your phone.
>>> I have used him to but doesn’t he use A bit more battery then others?
>>> Also what voice to you like the best out of all of them for use on A daily 
>>> basis?
>>> And why do you select the voice you do?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: A baffling problem with my iPhone 7

[SoonerAnnie]

That's what I was afraid of LOL. Thanks. 

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> On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I would go directly to an Apple /ore.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 6:28 PM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> The problem I am having with my iPhone 7 is that all of a sudden...when I 
>> was Facetime Audio chatting with my sister...It began having great 
>> interference. At first we thought it was her iPhone 7 as it was making a 
>> crackling sound, but then another friend Facetime audio called me and asked 
>> me if I was out in the wind. She couldn't hear me, although I could hear her 
>> clearly. I made a regular phone call from my home phone to my iPhone and the 
>> noise on the receiving end was really bad! I first rebooted the phone. When 
>> there was no change, I tried a hard reset. Then I reset network settings, 
>> then erased the phone and restored it. Still static and crackling. 
>> Everything else is clear, including VoiceOver and other apps that make 
>> noise. I am currently stumped and out of ideas, and would appreciate it if 
>> someone could shed some light on what the problem might be and what I might 
>> do about it. Thanks for reading all this - just wanted to let you know what 
>> had already been tried. Thanks in advance for any help you may give me! 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Ann  
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A baffling problem with my iPhone 7

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

The problem I am having with my iPhone 7 is that all of a sudden...when I was 
Facetime Audio chatting with my sister...It began having great interference. At 
first we thought it was her iPhone 7 as it was making a crackling sound, but 
then another friend Facetime audio called me and asked me if I was out in the 
wind. She couldn't hear me, although I could hear her clearly. I made a regular 
phone call from my home phone to my iPhone and the noise on the receiving end 
was really bad! I first rebooted the phone. When there was no change, I tried a 
hard reset. Then I reset network settings, then erased the phone and restored 
it. Still static and crackling. Everything else is clear, including VoiceOver 
and other apps that make noise. I am currently stumped and out of ideas, and 
would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what the problem might 
be and what I might do about it. Thanks for reading all this - just wanted to 
let you know what had already been tried. Thanks in advance for any help you 
may give me! 

Best, 

Ann  

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Re: My ATT app

[SoonerAnnie]

I also use the app with no problems. 

Ann  

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> On Aug 3, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> It's perfectly accessible on the iPhone. No problems at all.
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 5:34 PM,  
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>> Hi,  Not sure about the ios app, but on android it works just fine if that 
>> is anything to go by.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terry Nord
>> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My ATT app
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if anyone out there uses the my ATT app on your phone? I 
>> talk to them at AT today and they seem to think it was accessible. What do 
>> you say?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Terry Nord
>> Ask me about healthy chocolate! 
>> Yes, there is such a thing and it's good to! 
>> ternor...@gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>> 
>> I used to have this app  but found it was not accessible with voiceover.  
>> Does anybody know if that has changed?
>> Just curious.
>> Patti
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Re: problem with the amazon app

[SoonerAnnie]

You and me both, Mary! Sigh! 

Ann 

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> On Jul 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Well, I am not having a problem with the Amazon app. I seem to be able to 
> find the checkout button all to easily, sigh.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Does anyone on here use the amazon app.  I ahve been using it for a
>> while.  I have added a bunch of items to my cart.  I am swiping right,
>> and it tells me this item contains a gift checkbox not checked, i see
>> a continue shopping button, but no proceed to checkout button..  Any
>> ideas where to find it?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

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You're welcome! They must have changed that particular command. And it is 
indeed a useful command to have! 

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> On May 18, 2017, at 1:51 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
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> 
> Thank you. I will check that out.
> The copy of the commands I have used the quote, which made no sense.
> That will be a really good keyboard command to have.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Noun: trumpery
> 1. (informal) statements or beliefs that are untrue or make no sense
> 2. Ornamental objects of no great value
> This definition is from WordWeb
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6?
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>> On May 17, 2017, at 9:20 PM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, it is control-option-hyphen...the key to the right of the 0. 
>> 
>> Ann 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> In the list of keyboard commands for VoiceOver, it says that to do a two 
>>> finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
>>> However, that does nothing with the Amazon KT1081.
>>> I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
>>> Richard
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Re: iPhone bluetooth keyboard command question

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Richard, it is control-option-hyphen...the key to the right of the 0. 

Ann 

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> finger double tap it is Control-Options-quote.
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> I'm running iOS 10.3.2.
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Re: Does anyone know how I can link my Twitter and Facebook accounts so I can simultaneously post to both?

[SoonerAnnie]

So would yours truly! Thanks in advance! 

Ann 

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> On May 14, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
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> I would like to know the same info.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 14, 2017, at 3:33 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all 
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all this useful information. How do I go about linking 
>> them through twitter.com?? I've tried going into settings and apps, but 
>> nowhere is voiceover saying anything about connecting to Facebook. So if 
>> someone could send me some totally idiot-proof instructions on how to do 
>> this with voiceover I'd be so grateful. I've managed to do it the other way 
>> round (Facebook to Twitter), and that was very very easy. However, Twitter 
>> to Facebook doesn't appear to be as straightforward. 
>> 
>> Any help much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> Eleanor 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 14 May 2017, at 16:18, Robert Doc Wright  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sign in  at twitter.com and you can link them there.
>>> - Original Message - From: "'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac Visionaries E-mail List" ; 
>>> "VIphone" ; "BCAB Discussion List" 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 3:42 PM
>>> Subject: Does anyone know how I can link my Twitter and Facebook accounts 
>>> so I can simultaneously post to both?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Apologies for cross-posting, but I'm hoping someone might know the answer 
>>> to this/be able to help me. I have a Twitter and a Facebook account, and 
>>> I'd like to be able to link the 2 so that I can simultaneously post to 
>>> both. I'm using IOS. A friend told me that it was possible, and gave me the 
>>> name of an app, TweetCaster, but when I downloaded it I found it terribly 
>>> inaccessible with VoiceOver. I then tried to look up how to do it online, 
>>> and managed to totally confuse myself with all the different methods that 
>>> came up. So I was wondering if anyone knew/could tell me of the best 
>>> way/how I can go about linking my 2 accounts? Do I need to do it through 
>>> websites?, or is there a more accessible app that will allow me to do so?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help anyone can give.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> 
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Re: Siri issues.

[SoonerAnnie]

A friend of mine had the same problem earlier in the week. She ended up having 
to restore her phone before the problem was resolved. She had tried absolutely 
everything! 

Ann 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> Two things.
> Have you closed all your apps out of the app switcher?  I know some have 
> reported lately that it doesn't matter, but I can say I've had multiple times 
> when things are not working right and when I clear the app switcher, they 
> work again.
> Also, have you tried powering off your phone and waiting about 30 seconds and 
> powering back up?
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 9:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri issues.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Lately I have noticed that Siri will say I can't help you or I don't 
> understand as soon as I press the home button.
> 
> 
> Wondering if others are having this issue and what the problem may be?
> 
> 
> It is quite annoying.
> 
> 
> Have checked my Internet connection both 4G and Wi-fi and they seem to 
> be working.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> FaceTime, iMessage & email
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> sa...@sadamahmed.com
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Re: 10 ways the iPhone changed everything

[SoonerAnnie]

I absolutely love my iPhone and don't know what I would do without it! I have 
also convinced a few other totally blind friends...and also my twin sister...to 
get one...and they don't know what they would do without them either! I do 
everything on mine! It's like having a little computer in my pocket or purse! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2017, at 9:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I can't love a phone either. My computer, on the other hand, is really
>what I can put faith in.
> -- 
> 
> Devin Prater
> Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs.
> Email: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> 
> "Jewel"  writes:
> 
>> I, also, have an iPhone 5S, and I loathe the horrid thing, and that is * not 
>> because I have made up my mind to do so. I would love to love it as all the 
>> blind people that I know
>> who have one are rapturous in its praises and tell me: hand on heart: that 
>> life has never been so good, but believe that statement, I cannot!
>> Jewel
>> 
>> From: Richard Turner 
>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 1:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: 10 ways the iPhone changed everything
>> 
>> I used to be the braille and adaptive device instructor at a State 
>> Commission for the Blind. When I heard about the first accessible iPhone, I 
>> started paying attention to see if
>> they decided to make the iPod Touch accessible as at that time I had no 
>> interest in a cell phone.
>> 
>> On November 20, 2009, I decided to go to the Apple store to check out the 
>> new iPod Touch 3rd generation with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I convinced the store to let me buy one with the understanding that if I 
>> decided it wasn't right for our clients, or myself, that I could return it 
>> with no "restocking fees."
>> 
>> Needless to say, I did not return it.
>> 
>> I convinced my manager that we should start teaching clients how to use it 
>> since it already did more than many other blindness specific products and 
>> was considerably
>> cheaper. I even bought an external GPS receiver/battery pack from Dual 
>> Electronics and began using the Touch as an accessible GPS device.
>> 
>> Our office now supplies all the staff who have to travel with an iPhone in 
>> place of the old Blackberries they used to use because of the built-in 
>> accessibility.
>> 
>> I bought the iPhone 5s for myself when it came out as I finally decided 
>> having a cell phone was a very good idea plus it meant I had a GPS system 
>> without a bulky external
>> device.
>> 
>> I now do most things on my iPhone and my iPod Touch 6th generation.
>> 
>> Thank you Steve Jobs.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 6:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone changed everything
>> 
>> Hi, Everyone!
>> 
>> The iPhone has certainly made a huge difference in my life. My Apple 
>> experience started back on February 6, 2012, when I walked into the Apple 
>> Store at the West Farms
>> Mall in West Hartford, CT, and bought an iPod Touch. Because I had a very 
>> bad experience with a touch-screen device before then that was meant for 
>> blind people, I decided
>> to buy an iPod first in order for me to reacquaint myself with a touch 
>> screen. Well, let me tell you. It didn't take me long to get used to the 
>> iPod Touch. I was emailing the day
>> after I bought the device, and then the following November I took the plunge 
>> and bought the iPhone 5. The rest is history.
>> 
>> I do almost everything on my phone and I absolutely love it. 
>> 
>> It felt wonderful to walk into that Apple Store and buy the same thing that 
>> everyone else buys rather than spending money to buy only adaptive products 
>> for the blind.
>> Believe me, I'm not knocking these blindness-related devices and, in fact, 
>> they are wonderful too, but it was so wonderful when I heard VoiceOver speak 
>> for the first time in
>> the store when the salesperson activated it for me.
>> 
>> Anyway, that's my story about my Apple experience. I also switched from a 
>> Dell computer over to an Apple MacBook Air.
>> 
>> Take care everyone!
>> 
>> Esther Levegnale
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>> On May 4, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> 
>> In 2007 I purchased a Trekker/Maestro for $2,000 among other assistive 
>> technology devices (i.e., Note Reader II, etc.). At that time I composed an 
>> e-mail to one of the
>> various blindness-oriented e-mail lists suggesting how nice it would be if a 
>> single device could support all the various aspects of assistive technology. 
>> Little did I know
>> that such a device was being initially released by Apple - the iPhone. I 
>> wished I had that $2000 and waited for what coming; it is truly amazing and 
>> definitely life
>> changing!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill
>> 
>> - 

Re: prayers and reason for unsubscribing soon

[SoonerAnnie]

Oh sweetie! My heart is breaking for you! I can't even begin to imagine what 
you are going through! Thank you for letting us know what is going on so we 
know how to pray for you and yours! Please know that you are being thought of 
and lifted up! Hope to hear from you soon with good news! Hugs! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 2:35 PM, zoe fiogkos  wrote:
> 
> Hi my fellow elf's and Mrs. Clause. Hope you are all doing ok. Unfortunately
> I have no choice, I have to unsubscribe from all the email groups I belong
> to. I haven't been able to check email and be online for a long time and it
> seems I will be out of things for much longer. When I turned on my laptop
> this morning I had over fifteen thousand emails waiting for me. Given my
> situation I just can't keep up anymore. I pray that one day I recover and
> are able to join my favourite groups again.  My family is against me telling
> people what's wrong but I feel in writing this email I'm also helping myself
> to come to grips with my illness. I will remain subscribed a few more days
> so that I may read your thoughts in hopes that your words might help me to
> continue to fight this awful illness.
> Again I'm sorry for the off topic post and I hope the moderators can find it
> in their hearts to forgive me, and if one day I recover I hope they will
> remember me and let me back in to my favourite mailing groups.
> Before I tell you all my story, I would like to thank each and every one of
> you for either your help on various topics, or your individual private help
> through the phone or private email, or your messages of getting to know me,
> or your words of encouragement when it came to the mac, jaws, NVDA, windows
> 10, household tips, cooking instructions, prayers, and harmless chit chat.
> If I offended anyone in anyway, or gave anyone a hard time please forgive
> me.
> Here's my unbelievable story.
> Last August I was doing a lot of gardening mostly weeding to be honest. I
> was on my hands and knees from morning to night pulling weeds and keeping my
> property clean. I am grateful to the good Lord for blessing me to have such
> a lovely property but it's old and no one ever took care of the garden. The
> result is weeds on top of my weeds. Chemicals are forbidden here in Canada,
> and I haven't been able to find an affordable solution, so I'm left with
> fighting weeds on a daily bases. I am a sun lover and adore summer, last
> summer was the first time in my life that I couldn't wait for summer to be
> over. I was exhausted and I have nothing to remember for my 2016 summer
> except pulling weeds all most every day for the whole entire spring, summer,
> and fall.
> In August I noticed 2 mosquito bites on my elbow and 2 on my inner left
> thigh. The bites were very itchy just like normal mosquito bites, so I
> didn't think anything of it. I also noticed my nails were black underneath.
> I thought it was dirt from the garden, to spite that I was showering every
> single day and cleaning my nails, the next morning they would be filthy
> again. Again I thought it strange but I justified it in my head as to much
> gardening. In August my husband and I visited a few local restaurants and
> spent two nights in a motel in north Ontario for a weekend away.
> I wanted to try my hand at building a small business doing something I love
> so I decided to start making my own bracelets and selling them online. I
> have always loved costume jewellery and to spite my vision problems, I have
> been taught that there is nothing I can't do. My mother always said "try and
> if you fail, oh well, life goes on. Try different things until you find
> something you are good at and you love doing." So I talked to my mom and
> husband and they both backed me as they always do. My mother who adores me
> spent over six thousand dollars to buy my supplies, and encouraged me on a
> daily bases. My husband turned half of my computer room into a work space
> with special lighting, magnifying contraptions, shelving, etc. My husband
> and mom bought me bins with dividers and I spent months sorting beads and
> other supplies by color, size, and type. I got help from someone on one of
> these mailing lists and he helped me to create labels to label all these
> bins. Everything was going great, or so I thought.
> I spent hours teaching myself how to make these beautiful bracelets, I
> finally got the hang of it after much trial and error and I was ready to go.
> I registered on etsy.com and opened up a Facebook small business page. I
> bought more supplies to host a launching party with food, drinks, and gifts
> for my guests to introduce them to my creations and my new business. While
> all this was happening, I noticed in October that the mosquito bites were
> not going away. They had become scabby and even more itchier.
> I showed my mom and she justified it just like I had done in my mind. Due to
> my type two diabetes they were 

Re: Special request

[SoonerAnnie]

My user name is...you guessed it...SoonerAnnie! LOL. I play everything except 
ballad and I don't play it because I'm not familiar with it. I can go either 
way with the bonus points. Sometimes they are nice but other times a pain. So 
whoever I'm playing, it's up to them. :) 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Rebecca Ilniski <rilni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't care for bonus games either. I play all the games except pig. My two 
> favorites are Balut and Yatzzy. My username is applegirl1994
> 
> Rebecca and Zeb
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> 
> On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:44 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> My user name is MamaPeach 67. I play everything, except Pig. I don’t really 
> like to play bonus games, I find it more challenging by not using bonus 
> rolls. My two favorite games are Farkle and Balut, but I will accept 
> challenges for 5 out of the 6 games on Dice World.
>  
> From: Joney
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Special request
>  
> I play you! And you beat me… Often. :-) I'm Joney 595, for those who wish to 
> play. I play anything. I lose most, but I have fun.
> 
> Joney
> talk2o...@gmail.com
> "If God can bring you to it,
> He will lead you through it." 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Louise Johnson <herclou...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi can you repost her user name as I enjoy three’s also and will play pig 
>> sometimes.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am herclouise for anyone to ask to play games also and I also enjoy 1, 4 
>> 24 and farcol
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Louise and princess Kiara
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Joney
>> Sent: March 25, 2017 1:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Special request
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> She has been so pleased that someone is playing her. You guys have made her 
>> day. She was getting tired of beating Grammy. :-)
>> 
>> Joney
>> 
>> talk2o...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "If God can bring you to it,
>> 
>> He will lead you through it." 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:56 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh I feel for her. I know I go crazy when I don’t have internet. Looking 
>> forward to her return. She is beating the socks off me right now in 3’s.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Joney
>> 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 3:54 PM
>> 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Special request
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Yes. She is all right. She is at her other grandmothers house. She doesn't 
>> have Internet there, so she can't play. She severely pouting. You should 
>> hear from her tomorrow evening. :-) Spring break will be over then
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joney
>> 
>> talk2o...@gmail.com
>> 
>> "If God can bring you to it,
>> 
>> He will lead you through it." 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2017, at 3:24 PM, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joney,
>> Just wondering if your granddaughter is okay. You asked us to play with her, 
>> but she isn't taking her turn. Just wanting to make sure she was okay.
>> 
>> On 20/03/17 10:09 PM, Joney wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I have a special request for those who play Dice World. Could some of
>> 
>> you, who enjoy playing pig, and threes, I have my granddaughter to your
>> 
>> list? We're trying to get her some players, and haven't found anybody
>> 
>> but me that she plays with. I would thank you very much for your
>> 
>> assistance here. She's a smart seven-year-old who's wanting to play and
>> 
>> enjoys it.Dicer1989376 :-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joney
>> 
>> talk2o...@gmail.com <mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> "If God can bring you to it,
>> 
>> He will lead you through it."
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: About to go nuts! Problem with the native email app!

[SoonerAnnie]

I've only had that account since April of 1998. LOL! I was going to wait till 
tomorrow to post this but it seems that the problem resolved itself, making me 
wonder if perhaps I wasn't the only one having issues and it was on Yahoo's 
end. It lasted about 48 hours, so go figure! 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Tom Lange <lang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yahoo sucks! Get rid of it. 
> I wouldn't  be caught dead with a Yahoo account.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Definitely sounds like an issue with Yahoo and not your iPhone or the native 
>> mail app. Having installed the Outlook app should not have made a 
>> difference, I also had it for a while and I had 2 accounts set up in the 
>> native mail app and one in the Outlook app (basically I had my personal 
>> Outlook.com email set up both in the native mail app and Outlook to evaluate 
>> which I liked better) and it workd just fine in both apps. I also went back 
>> to the native mail app since I did not like how Outlook showed the Contacts 
>> (you can’t add/delete or edit them) and I just like the way the native mail 
>> app handles threads in iOS 10.
>> I know switching mail accounts can be a big deal, but I would advise you to 
>> get away from Yahoo, they seem to be consistently be the the ones who have 
>> the most hacks, their web interface for blind users is a mess and I think 
>> Outlook.com or gmail are much better services.
>> I don’t know anything about the accessibility of the Yahoo Mail app, but it 
>> is is accessible you could always try to use that app for use with your 
>> Yahoo account and just use the native mail app for your other two accounts.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of SoonerAnnie
>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: About to go nuts! Problem with the native email app!
>>  
>> Thanks for the suggestion but nothing worked. I even installed the account 
>> on my husband's phone with the same results. I wonder why...after so many 
>> years...it suddenly decided not to work? This account is doing great, so go 
>> figure! The native app is so darn easy to use! In my opinion, there's no 
>> comparison! The yahoo app stinks because of the columns and rows being 
>> announced constantly, so I guess Outlook will have to do. 
>>  
>> Whiny Annie...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, how are  you?  Ok relax now. so the firs thing you need to do is to do a 
>> hard reset by pressing  the power button and the home button, hold them or 
>> press them for 10 seconds, then your phone wil turn off and turn back on. 
>> then delete your yahoo account that you are having issues with, and add it 
>> back in. Yes, you delete  your account before  but add  it again after you 
>> you did a  hard reset. and  if you have  an iphone 7, don't press   the 
>> power button and the  home button; instead,  press thepower button and 
>> volume down button. Hope this ehlps! I look forward in hearing form youson. 
>> Thanks and God bless!
>> 
>>   Helga Schreiber 
>> Group Moderator  
>>  
>>   for the IPad help for the Blind 
>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
>>  
>> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, 
>> feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where 
>> people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text 
>> only! 
>> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
>> https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D
>>  
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
>> Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
>> 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
>> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Soon

Re: About to go nuts! Problem with the native email app!

[SoonerAnnie]

Thanks for the suggestion but nothing worked. I even installed the account on 
my husband's phone with the same results. I wonder why...after so many 
years...it suddenly decided not to work? This account is doing great, so go 
figure! The native app is so darn easy to use! In my opinion, there's no 
comparison! The yahoo app stinks because of the columns and rows being 
announced constantly, so I guess Outlook will have to do. 

Whiny Annie...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, how are  you?  Ok relax now. so the firs thing you need to do is to do a 
> hard reset by pressing  the power button and the home button, hold them or 
> press them for 10 seconds, then your phone wil turn off and turn back on. 
> then delete your yahoo account that you are having issues with, and add it 
> back in. Yes, you delete  your account before  but add  it again after you 
> you did a  hard reset. and  if you have  an iphone 7, don't press   the power 
> button and the  home button; instead,  press thepower button and volume down 
> button. Hope this ehlps! I look forward in hearing form youson. Thanks and 
> God bless!
> 
>   Helga Schreiber 
> Group Moderator  
>  
>   for the IPad help for the Blind 
> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io 
>  
> Admin of World Wide Friends Text: If you want to chat and make new friends, 
> feel free to join a WhatsApp group called World Wide Friends Text, where 
> people with hearing lost and who are blind can freely communicate by text 
> only! 
> ‎Open this link to join my WhatsApp Group: 
> https://chat.whatsapp.com/5yDqxdAPgEJKAhFWlRh13D
> 
>   
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
> Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1.1
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 5:10 PM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, 
>> 
>> I have three accounts on my iPhone using the native mail app, all of which 
>> are Yahoo accounts. This one is an att.net account, one is an sbcglobal.net 
>> account, and the other is simply a yahoo.com account. I have been using the 
>> native mail app for many years with these three accounts with absolutely no 
>> problem...until last night! This account is working fine, as is the 
>> sbcglobal.net one, but the yahoo.com?!? It's a nightmare! The trouble began 
>> when I downloaded and installed the Outlook mail app, which worked fine but 
>> seemed to interfere with the native app as far as being able to download 
>> mail in a timely manner and also failing to download the entire message from 
>> the server. I first got rid of the Outlook app and even the Yahoo mail app 
>> as I preferred the native app, but it didn't seem to make any difference. I 
>> deleted the Yahoo.com account and added it back, but it made no difference. 
>> I have quite a bit of mail in it and it took forever for it to download, 
>> which isn't the norm, no matter how much mail there is. As a matter of fact, 
>> it took it a bit to even load the info to save the account. So, I deleted 
>> the whole shooting match, and even removed the app from my phone! When I 
>> again retrieved it and added all the accounts back, the other two cooperated 
>> nicely but the Yahoo.com one was the same old same old. Often when I attempt 
>> to open a message in that in box, I get this: 
>> 
>> This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the 
>> sender to send it again using a different format or email program. 
>> multipart/alternative
>> 
>> Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on here? I'm about to pull 
>> my hair out! The account works fine with the other email programs, BTW, but 
>> I'm wanting to use the native app and am at a loss as how to proceed. Thanks 
>> for any help you guys may be able to give me! 
>> 
>> Ann (who is about to either throw her iPhone or hit herself over the head 
>> with it) 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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About to go nuts! Problem with the native email app!

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi everyone, 

I have three accounts on my iPhone using the native mail app, all of which are 
Yahoo accounts. This one is an att.net account, one is an sbcglobal.net 
account, and the other is simply a yahoo.com account. I have been using the 
native mail app for many years with these three accounts with absolutely no 
problem...until last night! This account is working fine, as is the 
sbcglobal.net one, but the yahoo.com?!? It's a nightmare! The trouble began 
when I downloaded and installed the Outlook mail app, which worked fine but 
seemed to interfere with the native app as far as being able to download mail 
in a timely manner and also failing to download the entire message from the 
server. I first got rid of the Outlook app and even the Yahoo mail app as I 
preferred the native app, but it didn't seem to make any difference. I deleted 
the Yahoo.com account and added it back, but it made no difference. I have 
quite a bit of mail in it and it took forever for it to download, which isn't 
the norm, no matter how much mail there is. As a matter of fact, it took it a 
bit to even load the info to save the account. So, I deleted the whole shooting 
match, and even removed the app from my phone! When I again retrieved it and 
added all the accounts back, the other two cooperated nicely but the Yahoo.com 
one was the same old same old. Often when I attempt to open a message in that 
in box, I get this: 

This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the 
sender to send it again using a different format or email program. 
multipart/alternative

Can anyone shed any light on what might be going on here? I'm about to pull my 
hair out! The account works fine with the other email programs, BTW, but I'm 
wanting to use the native app and am at a loss as how to proceed. Thanks for 
any help you guys may be able to give me! 

Ann (who is about to either throw her iPhone or hit herself over the head with 
it) 
Sent from my iPhone

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Strange happening with the native mail app and my primary email

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi everyone, 

Tuesday evening was the last time I was able to download mail on my iPhone 
using the native app, but for only one account...my primary email...which is a 
Yahoo account. Repeatedly...and without fail...I get the message "Cannot get 
mail. The connection to the server has failed." My husband has a Yahoo mail 
account and is having no trouble with it whatsoever. Neither do I have trouble 
with his account when checking it on my iPhone. When attempting to check my 
account on his iPhone, I get the same message...connection to the server has 
failed. I even deleted it from my phone and added it back to no avail. That was 
before I added it to my husband's phone. Smile. When I downloaded the Yahoo 
mail app and signed in, I was able to access my mail with no problem. I have 
been using the native mail app with my Yahoo mail account for several years, 
and this is the first time I have encountered this obstacle. As I previously 
stated, I don't have any trouble whatsoever in accessing any other accounts on 
my phone, including my Husband's Yahoo mail. If anyone has any 
ideas/suggestions, I would appreciate it very much! 

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Re: Columns and rows...

[SoonerAnnie]

You mean we don't all have this problem?!? I hate those who don't! LOL! Thanks 
for the feedback. As you said, we need to keep reporting it. 

And 

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> On Sep 30, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi Wendy,
> I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to mass delete messages. For 
> instance, if you double tap the edit button then select whatever messages you 
> want to delete, that trash button becomes available. On the other hand, if 
> you know you want to delete everything in the folder, you can double tap the 
> edit button, then do select all, then double tap trash. Presto!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 30, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Wendy Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> This annoys me also.  Hope apple can fix this soon.  Another mail problem is
>> that you can't mass delete messages from your folders when you go into edit.
>> The move and trash options are now grayed out.  I absolutely hate deleting
>> messages one at a time.
>> Wendy
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Columns and rows...

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

Ever since the upgrade to IOS 10, there are certain email messages in the 
native app, and also some places in Safari where columns and rows are announced 
constantly. I and a few others I know find this to be very annoying! Is there 
any way to turn this off to where VoiceOver just reads text without verbalizing 
every column and every row? Sure do hope so! LOL. Thanks in advance for any 
assistance you can give. 

Ann 


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Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in IOS 10

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Samantha. No matter what, I always go back to her. I'm so used to her now, I 
really don't like anything else as well. I do give them a try though. LOL. 

Ann 

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:35 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I use Alex now, as I have ever since he was available.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
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>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Connie Mohney  wrote:
>> Samantha is all I’ve ever used for serie and voice over
>> 
>> Connie
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what voices do you all use now as your default go to voice in 
>> IOS 10
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I still use Samantha and, Alex to read articles.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Casey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi now since IS 10 is out.
>> What are you all liking as your main go to voice for everyday use with your 
>> phone?
>> I was using Alex and am using him again now.
>> But just Wonder also if you find any of the newer voice faster and more 
>> responsive.
>> So that is why all of the questions.
>> 
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Re: poorquality of voices

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I try other voices briefly but always go back to compact Samantha! She's like 
an old friend now! Smile. 

Ann 
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> On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, given the fact that there are apparently plenty of people on these 
> lists who don't think the voices  are problem, maybe Apple isn't hearing a 
> lot from people who do think they are problem. And maybe they don't know. 
> After all, the number of people who use these voices, compared to the number 
> of overall customers, is exceedingly small. So raise your voice. I know I 
> have requested that they open up their system to the point where we can use 
> other voices that they don't provide. And that hasn't gotten me anywhere.
> 
> Mary
> 
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>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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>> Sorry, I was just assuming Apple was paying some royalties to Nuance to use 
>> their voices, so just like any other customer, they'd have the right to 
>> raise the issue with their supplier. I also assume Nuance gets quite a bit 
>> of mileage out of having their voices on such a popular device, so again, 
>> I'd think that would give Apple some influence with Nuance. Apple could also 
>> go to another company if they didn't think Nuance was providing the quality 
>> they expect from their suppliers and want to include in their devices. If 
>> Apple includes substandard parts in their devices then yes I think they have 
>> some responsibility for that decision.
>> 
>> You're right though, I can't prove anything, and I don't know the details of 
>> Apple's deal with Nuance, so I was wrong for bringing it up.
>> 
>>> On 15/09/16 21:22, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Unless you know that Apple has input into this whole deal, or you can prove 
>>> that the exact same voices are used elsewhere and don't have this problem, 
>>> I don't think you can blame Apple for the crappy voices. Where Apple could 
>>> improve would be either to insist that nuance up their game, which would be 
>>> nice. And they could, spoken from a non-programming point of you of course, 
>>> open it up, so that we can use voice is obtained through other sources, 
>>> such as voice dream reader.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
 wrote:
 
 You're right, but Apple chooses to use and upgrade these voices, and I'm 
 sure they also have some influence with Nuance, so I think it's fair to 
 let Apple share some of the responsibility.
 
 
> On 15/09/16 14:22, Devin Prater wrote:
> Apple gets these voices from Neuance. When an update comes out, Apple
> updates the voices, so it isn't really Apple's fault. I do know what you
> mean about Samantha. I use Alex, or Fred.
> 
> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Chantal Oakes  > wrote:
> 
>  Hello Dan, I echo what you are saying. The quality of voices are
>  very poor with this new update.  One often wonders why they touch
>  what isn't broken. The voices were not bad before they should just
>  have left it alone. Just my opinion.
> 
>  Chantal Oakes
> 
>  On Sep 15, 2016, at 7:29 AM, Dan   > wrote:
> 
>>  Hi,
>> 
>> 
>>  I am wondering if this is really the case or if it is just my phone.
>> 
>> 
>>  I am using a Iphone 6.  I am running the new IOS 10.
>> 
>> 
>>  Even back in IOS 9 on an Iphone 5 I noticed that even high quality
>>  voices had a sort of hissy or fuzzy quality to them.   I found
>>  that the lower quality Siri voice actually sounded better than the
>>  high quality voice.
>> 
>> 
>>  With IOS 10 the problem is still there and may actually be worse.
>>  I have downloaded several of the new voices trying to find one
>>  that sounded clearer but there doesn't seem to be one.
>> 
>> 
>>  Am I alone in this?
>> 
>> 
>>  Dan Beaver
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Re: how need help with entering A dash on the iPhone

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It says hyphen, and it is under more numbers. 

Ann 

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> hi can you tell me what it says it is just so I know what to listen for.
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Re: Anxiety up please help, thanks.

[SoonerAnnie]

Reggie - which version of iPhone do you have? My SE updated just fine, thank 
The Lord, but a friend of mine who is running a 6S, is having the same problem 
you are. Consequently, I am holding off on updating my 6S, although that 
probably doesn't have any impact on which ones lock up and which ones don't. I 
heard a report on the news that you should try doing a hard reset, which 
involves holding the home and power buttons for about ten seconds, then follow 
the prompts on the screen to restore your phone. Of course, if we are unable to 
see the screen, we have to wait for sighted assistance. Hopefully, someone else 
on the list may have some other ideas for us. Good luck, and I'm sorry this 
happened to you! Hugs! 

Ann 

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Regina Alvarado  
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> My phone did not come up. I am beginning to be very very anxious. Should I 
> try to go into my mini and upgrade iTunes? Then how do I fix my phone with 
> the upgraded iTunes? What is bricked? If I leave phone alone will it fix 
> itself?
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

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Yea!!! Thanks for the heads up! Something to look forward to. 

Ann 

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> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will echo 
> typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have been wanting 
> especially since BSI supports UEB.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On 8/25/2016 4:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
>> OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use the 
>> original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do that rather 
>> than not having mBraille at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 
>>> 3rd party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I 
>>> try typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other 
>>> words, it consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my 
>>> phone or if my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it 
>>> would work on one phone, it would work on another, but obviously not.
>>> 
>>> I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to 
>>> where it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about 
>>> another keyboard again! Smile!
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third 
>>>> Party keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, 
>>>> were better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see 
>>>> what never crashes and avoid those that do!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>>>>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>>>>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear 
>>>>> Harri's thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and 
>>>>> everything, so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have 
>>>>> the regular MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen 
>>>>> input. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>>>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
>>>>>> and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to 
>>>>>> use the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select 
>>>>>> another keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is 
>>>>>> that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very 
>>>>>> briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes 
>>>>>> it does have to kick in!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>>>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
>>>>>> writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
>>>>>> phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>>>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>>>>> Third Party option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
>>>>>> problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Richard, I did respond to Harri's message and it went through as I did see 
it on the list. I am using the away mode and orientation is locked. My SE is 
the only device I have had trouble with the 3rd party keyboard. Thanks. 

Ann 

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> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ann,
> I saw Harri's message a couple days ago.
> I did not see a response from yu on that list.
> What mode are you using?
> Away, Table Top?
> If away, do you have orientation locked?
> 
> I use mBraille on an iPod Touch 6, an iPhone 5s and an iPhone 6 with no 
> issues at all.
> 
> There must be a setting that is different with your 5SE or it has some other 
> issue.
> 
> I hope it gets sorted.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
> party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
> typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
> consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
> my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on 
> one phone, it would work on another, but obviously not. 
> 
> I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where 
> it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
> keyboard again! Smile! 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
>> keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were 
>> better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what 
>> never crashes and avoid those that do!
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>>> 
>>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
>>> thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, 
>>> so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular 
>>> MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
>>>> and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use 
>>>> the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select another 
>>>> keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as 
>>>> soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't 
>>>> actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick 
>>>> in!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
>>>> writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
>>>> phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>>> Third Party option.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
>>>> problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things 
>>>> to consider.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may 
>>>> be that your mes

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on one 
phone, it would work on another, but obviously not. 

I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where it 
spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
keyboard again! Smile! 

Ann 

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> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
> keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were 
> better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what 
> never crashes and avoid those that do!
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>> 
>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
>> thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, 
>> so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular 
>> MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)
>> 
>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or 
>>> I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the 
>>> onboard one at that time for example but the option to select another 
>>> keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as 
>>> soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't 
>>> actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing 
>>> too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you 
>>> may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>> Third Party option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
>>> with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
>>> that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, 
>>> he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all 
>>> messages these days, I don't think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking 
>>> as long as it can ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>>>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results 
>>>> are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd 
>>>> party keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>>>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>>>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>>>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>>> 
>>>&

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

He just wrote and asked me which layout I'm using and also which version of IOS 
I was running. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to agree. I recently wrote the author of Mbraille a very detailed 
> email message in regards to his app not working well with edit fields in a 
> very popular taxi app, and his reply? The following four words: "Thanks for 
> the feedback." 
> 
> He offered no solution nor any idea as to whether he too can replicate the 
> problem. This would have been very poor customer service for an app which 
> cost just a couple of dollars, but Mbraille is about $50 when you purchase 
> all the add-ons, so the software developer's reply is actually very 
> insulting. 
> 
> JR
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> You wont either, at least not from the author. He is happy to take your money 
> but never gets back when you experience an issue.
> 
> 
> Ever since spell checking became available in the third party keyboard 
> it has never worked for me across two different phones. List members 
> were quite helpful but I got nothing from the author and haven't 
> received a refund since its not working as advertised.
> 
> 
> All I can tell you apart from spell checking, it does work on my SE. In 
> my opinion this app is getting more and more buggy each update, I can't 
> wait to see what disasters iOS10 brings. Lol.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brett.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/22/2016 8:26 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
>> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
>> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
>> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
>> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may 
>> be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the 
>> MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
thankful that there are so many workarounds. 

I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, so 
trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular MBraille 
keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :) 

Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or I 
> can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the onboard 
> one at that time for example but the option to select another keyboard is not 
> given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as soon as I go into 
> an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't actually want to 
> write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!
> 
> 
> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing 
> too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you may 
> consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as strategically 
> placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the Third Party option.
> 
> 
> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
> with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.
> 
> 
> Hope it might help a little.
> 
> 
> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
> that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, he'd 
> almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all messages 
> these days, I don't think.
> 
> 
> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking as 
> long as it can ...
> 
> 
> Cheers now.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>> 
>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are 
>> the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
>> keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>> 
>>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
>>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
>>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
>>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
>>> answer for you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 
>>>> it numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version 
>>>> of the MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the 
>>>> MBraille list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd 
>>>> check to see if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in adva

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Believe it or not, I did that a couple of days ago. I had a feeling it wouldn't 
help, but tried it anyway...and hoped! Actually, I've only had the SE for about 
a month, but like its smaller size, although I still like my 6S very much! 

Just FYI - I tried typing this on my MBraille keyboard but only typed a couple 
of letters before it went bye bye. So now I'm using the good old reliable 
Braille input keyboard! :) 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:31 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Nobody really knows exactly why ... but often there are irregularities with 
> two phones running the same version of software or the software itself runs 
> well on one and not on the other.
> 
> 
> It's a bit drastic, but if that's your main phone, so it obviously gets more 
> use, you may consider restoring the phone form scratch. This sometimes can 
> work.
> 
> 
> Carol PP
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 22:25, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
>> 3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and 
>> I can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
>> using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my 
>> primary phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have 
>> to worry about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
>>> made sure it had full access, right?
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.
>>> 
>>> If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk 
>>> directly with Apple Accessibility support.
>>> 
>>> I can only imagine how frustrating this is.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of SoonerAnnie
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results 
>>> are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd 
>>> party keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>>> 
>>>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
>>>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
>>>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
>>>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
>>>> answer for you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>>>> iPhone SE. It 

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and I 
can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my primary 
phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have to worry 
about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for suggestions. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
> made sure it had full access, right?
> 
> I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.
> 
> If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk 
> directly with Apple Accessibility support.
> 
> I can only imagine how frustrating this is.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> 
> Hi Richard and Carol, 
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the 
> full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
> doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
> same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
> keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly 
> without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no 
> idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE! 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>> 
>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
>> answer for you.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 
>>> it numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of 
>>> the MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the 
>>> MBraille list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd 
>>> check to see if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any 
>>> help you may be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, 
>>> and the MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Richard and Carol, 

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
> answer for you.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
>> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
>> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
>> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
>> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may 
>> be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the 
>> MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi all, 

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm. 

Ann 

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and my phone

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Hi Louise, 

The button to pair this particular keyboard is the second one from the right on 
the top row of keys. You won't even need to enter a pairing code on the 
keyboard! Smile! 

Ann 

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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Louise Johnson  wrote:
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> Hi everyone okay I have the SE Phone and a Bluetooth keyboard that won’t 
> connect. I have the Logitec keys to go. I cannot get them to work together 
> and want to know if others have if you have the two of them. Thanks for any 
> help. This keyboard was on another phone that was the 5 so any help isneeded 
> to help me connect them. I will share this I have an appointment at the Apple 
> store in a week but hoping others can share light to this Louise and princess 
> Kiara
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Re: amazon app, major bug

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Same here, Andrew! Guess we're the lucky ones... 

Ann 

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> On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Andrew McKay  wrote:
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> I am a prime customer and order 2-3 times a week with vo through the amazon 
> app.  For me, it works fine, and lets me choose an address if I need to 
> change it.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: amazon app, major bug
> 
> well i'm glad it's not just me.  I think it's safe to say, it's a major bug 
> now.  not good
> 
>> On 8/5/2016 6:58 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote:
>> I am experiencing the same issue of not being able to place orders through 
>> the Amazon app.
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

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I keep doing it and it keeps resetting. Perhaps after this latest update... ... 
... 

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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 4:20 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,that tends to happen after an upgrade. Put brightness to 0 again, and 
> see what happens.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
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>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the screen 
>> brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it stays there 
>> for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent or something 
>> like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea what's making 
>> it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything to do with it. 
>> LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have. 
>> 
>> Ann 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

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That would be nice! 

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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 4:01 AM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> That bug, seems to be fixed, with the new update.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Arnold Schmidt
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Now, whenever you reboot your phone, the brightness is reset somewhere in the 
> 40's percent. It has been the case ever since one of the IOS 9 updates, I 
> don't remember which. Think of it as a new feature.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:20 AM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
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> I have no idea what I can be doing to make it happen, and can't imagine what, 
> and I don't check it that often unless it seems that my battery is going down 
> faster than usual.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen this as well on my iPhone 4S. It seems sporadic, but there must be 
>> something I'm doing to kick the brightness up from time to time, but I don't 
>> check it frequently and by the time I notice it, who knows what might have 
>> triggered it.
>> 
>>> On 20/07/16 23:02, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the 
>>> screen brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it 
>>> stays there for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent 
>>> or something like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea 
>>> what's making it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything 
>>> to do with it. LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

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Interesting. Thanks. 

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> Now, whenever you reboot your phone, the brightness is reset somewhere in the 
> 40's percent. It has been the case ever since one of the IOS 9 updates, I 
> don't remember which. Think of it as a new feature. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:20 AM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
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> I have no idea what I can be doing to make it happen, and can't imagine what, 
> and I don't check it that often unless it seems that my battery is going down 
> faster than usual. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen this as well on my iPhone 4S. It seems sporadic, but there must be 
>> something I'm doing to kick the brightness up from time to time, but I don't 
>> check it frequently and by the time I notice it, who knows what might have 
>> triggered it.
>> 
>>> On 20/07/16 23:02, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the 
>>> screen brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it 
>>> stays there for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent 
>>> or something like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea 
>>> what's making it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything 
>>> to do with it. LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

[SoonerAnnie]

Yes I have it on all the time. I figured that would keep the brightness level 
to 0 but it doesn't. Hmmm. 


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> On Jul 21, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Afik Sofir <afik.so...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Did you try screen curtain?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Adjusting screen brightness
> 
> I have no idea what I can be doing to make it happen, and can't imagine what, 
> and I don't check it that often unless it seems that my battery is going down 
> faster than usual. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen this as well on my iPhone 4S. It seems sporadic, but there must be 
>> something I'm doing to kick the brightness up from time to time, but I don't 
>> check it frequently and by the time I notice it, who knows what might have 
>> triggered it.
>> 
>>> On 20/07/16 23:02, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the 
>>> screen brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it 
>>> stays there for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent 
>>> or something like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea 
>>> what's making it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything 
>>> to do with it. LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

[SoonerAnnie]

No I'm not. Thought about it but that's as far as it's gone. Haha. 

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> Are you on the beta program? I am, and for no good reason at all, I wonder if 
> installing a new beta resets the brightness for some reason.
> 
>> On 21/07/16 00:20, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> I have no idea what I can be doing to make it happen, and can't imagine 
>> what, and I don't check it that often unless it seems that my battery is 
>> going down faster than usual.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen this as well on my iPhone 4S. It seems sporadic, but there must 
>>> be something I'm doing to kick the brightness up from time to time, but I 
>>> don't check it frequently and by the time I notice it, who knows what might 
>>> have triggered it.
>>> 
>>>> On 20/07/16 23:02, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the 
>>>> screen brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it 
>>>> stays there for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent 
>>>> or something like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea 
>>>> what's making it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has 
>>>> anything to do with it. LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may 
>>>> have.
>>>> 
>>>> Ann
>>>> 
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Re: Adjusting screen brightness

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I have no idea what I can be doing to make it happen, and can't imagine what, 
and I don't check it that often unless it seems that my battery is going down 
faster than usual. 

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> I've seen this as well on my iPhone 4S. It seems sporadic, but there must be 
> something I'm doing to kick the brightness up from time to time, but I don't 
> check it frequently and by the time I notice it, who knows what might have 
> triggered it.
> 
>> On 20/07/16 23:02, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the screen 
>> brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it stays there 
>> for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent or something 
>> like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea what's making 
>> it do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything to do with it. 
>> LOL. Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
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Adjusting screen brightness

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Hi all, 

Since I rely totally on VoiceOver to read my iPhone screen, I set the screen 
brightness to 0 to help preserve battery use. When I do that, it stays there 
for a while, but then I'll check it and it'll be at 40 percent or something 
like that. I have auto brightness turned off so have no idea what's making it 
do that. My iPhone is a 6S, but not sure that has anything to do with it. LOL. 
Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have. 

Ann 

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Re: can't paste text in to a note

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Not sure why you are having this problem. I just tried it and had no trouble 
finding edit when going either direction. Have you used edit before? Is it 
enabled in the rotor? I figure it probably is, but am unable to think of any 
other reason why it wouldn't show up. Hope someone else is able to assist you. 

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> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:13 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
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> it won't, i have never been able to turn left successfully, it goes all over 
> the place, i just can't get the gesture right, but right is no problem.  why 
> wouldn't it find it when rotering it right?
> 
>> On 7/10/2016 12:56 AM, Eleanor burke wrote:
>> then try and turn left.
>> 
>>> On 10 Jul 2016, at 05:54, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> OK, i have some text i wanna place in to a note.  I go to create a new 
>>> note, and it says text field is editing.  I am rotering right, and see 
>>> nothing for edit.  Any ideas of how to paste this text i have?
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Re: A weird issue with Facebook

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Hi Terri, 

Unfortunately, I am also having the same problem! Only difference is, I've been 
having it for quite a while. Ugh! The only thing I can do is to put my finger 
on the screen beneath where it says notifications and it will get me in the 
right place. I can then continue using the keyboard if I want to, but haven't 
found a way to not have to pick up the phone and touch the screen when I need 
to access notifications. It's a royal pain in the you know where, but at least 
I can make it work. Hope this helps, and hope the problem itself goes away real 
soon for both of us! 

Ann 

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> On Jul 1, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Terri Stimmel  
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> Hello everybody,
> 
> I have had a weird problem with Facebook, all day! I don't know what to do 
> about it. I uninstalled the app, then reinstalled it. I was thinking this 
> would fix the issue. But it did not.
> For some reason, I am told I have notifications. But when I go to the 
> notifications area, all I see is the heading for notifications, but nothing 
> else is there. It just shows me message friends newsfeed, and such things as 
> that.
> Is anyone else having the same issue?
> Is this a Facebook app issue?
> Or is it something with my phone?
> 
> I don't know what to think.
> Does anyone know how I can fix this issue? It is very annoying!
> I think I am one of the rare people, who prefer to use Facebook on the 
> iPhone, instead of a computer. Give me, for the most part, it is much easier. 
> Except when you are writing an email with your keyboard, and you hit enter, 
> sending the message before you were actually done. 
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Re: closing keyboard without exiting message

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Hi Gordon, 

You should be able to swipe to the left to get to the last message that was 
sent to the group. If it was the message you just posted, swipe again to the 
left and it should be there. Hope this helps. 

Ann 

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> Is there a way to close the keyboard without exiting a message. For example 
> if you're in a text conversation and the person sends you a message while 
> you're typing and you want to read it since the keyboard takes up most of the 
> bottom part of the screen. right now I just hit the back button and go back 
> into the conversation and relaunch the keyboard when I want to type again.
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Re: Problems charging iPhone

[SoonerAnnie]

I have always rebooted with my phone in the case, although I haven't had to do 
it lately. Glad it works either way. :) 

Ann 

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> On May 12, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I try to reboot at least once a week, usually with the case on. I'm
> not sure what difference it makes if the phone is in or out of the
> case when I reboot, but now I've done it both ways.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 5/12/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>> Glad to hear it. Had you tried to reboot your phone with the case on? Just
>> curious. Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Problems charging iPhone
>> 
>> Thanks all for your responses. SoonerAnnie, I tried your suggestions and
>> took my phone out of the smart case, rebooted it, and put it back in. I
>> haven't had any issues charging it since then. I have gotten little paranoid
>> each morning though and have gone into the today screen to see the battery
>> statuses after taking the phone off the charger. All appears to be back to
>> normal.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 5/10/16, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> Does phone charge without case?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May 2016, at 2:52 pm, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> I am having some issues charging my iPhone 6S with the Apple Smart
>>>> Battery case. Up until about 10 days ago I wasn't having any problems
>>>> at all. I started noticing that my phone was not charged over night.
>>>> I always plug it in by my bed so it can charge over night. I had been
>>>> plugging it into a power strip with a 6 foot chord. I started
>>>> noticing that when plugging my phone into the lightning cable,
>>>> several of the outlets did not register that the phone was plugged
>>>> in, meaning I did not get the audible tone or vibration when plugging
>>>> the phone in. I tried a few different outlets and finally
>>>> disconnected the power strip, replaced it with another shorter strip
>>>> but attached an extension chord to the new shorter strip, and plugged
>>>> my iPhone square plug and lightning cable into that. I did the switch
>>>> a couple of days ago. Sunday night the phone charged without any
>>>> trouble. Last night when I plugged the phone in, there was a delay of
>>>> several minutes before the phone made the audio tone and displayed
>>>> the charging message. However, that didn't last long since within 30
>>>> seconds, the phone had gone back to being on battery status even
>>>> though it was securely attached to the lightning cable. When this
>>>> issue first came up, I switched lightning cables and that worked for
>>>> awhile, but I'm wondering if I need to swap lightning cables again.
>>>> Short of going to an Apple Store, I can't figure out what might be
>>>> going on. Granted, I've got the smart battery case on my iPhone 6S,
>>>> which means the battery should last all day and into the night and
>>>> shouldn't be an issue. But my battery does not last nearly as long if
>>>> it starts at 50 percent or 80 percent when I unplug it from the
>>>> charger, after a night of not charging. Anyone have any ideas? Since
>>>> this appears to be a random issue, how would I explain it to Apple,
>>>> since if they plug it in, the phone is likely to register that it is
>>>> connected to a charger.
>>>> I don't want for it to seem like nothing is wrong, and then come home
>>>> and have the same issue come up.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
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Re: Problems charging iPhone

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Hi Wayne, 

I have had this same case on my iPhone 6S for about a month, and sometimes it 
does nothing when I plug the lightning cable in. So when that happens, I unplug 
it from the case, reboot the phone, then plug it back in and all is well. Kind 
of a pain, but not much of one. Smile! Hope this works for you! 

Ann 

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> On May 10, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> All,
> I am having some issues charging my iPhone 6S with the Apple Smart
> Battery case. Up until about 10 days ago I wasn't having any problems
> at all. I started noticing that my phone was not charged over night. I
> always plug it in by my bed so it can charge over night. I had been
> plugging it into a power strip with a 6 foot chord. I started noticing
> that when plugging my phone into the lightning cable, several of the
> outlets did not register that the phone was plugged in, meaning I did
> not get the audible tone or vibration when plugging the phone in. I
> tried a few different outlets and finally disconnected the power
> strip, replaced it with another shorter strip but attached an
> extension chord to the new shorter strip, and plugged my iPhone square
> plug and lightning cable into that. I did the switch a couple of days
> ago. Sunday night the phone charged without any trouble. Last night
> when I plugged the phone in, there was a delay of several minutes
> before the phone made the audio tone and displayed the charging
> message. However, that didn't last long since within 30 seconds, the
> phone had gone back to being on battery status even though it was
> securely attached to the lightning cable. When this issue first came
> up, I switched lightning cables and that worked for awhile, but I'm
> wondering if I need to swap lightning cables again. Short of going to
> an Apple Store, I can't figure out what might be going on. Granted,
> I've got the smart battery case on my iPhone 6S, which means the
> battery should last all day and into the night and shouldn't be an
> issue. But my battery does not last nearly as long if it starts at 50
> percent or 80 percent when I unplug it from the charger, after a night
> of not charging. Anyone have any ideas? Since this appears to be a
> random issue, how would I explain it to Apple, since if they plug it
> in, the phone is likely to register that it is connected to a charger.
> I don't want for it to seem like nothing is wrong, and then come home
> and have the same issue come up.
> 
> Thanks,
> Wayne Merritt
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Re: Football game

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That would be awesome! :) 

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> On Mar 4, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
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> Hi List, I was wondering if there was an accessible football game for the 
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Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.

[SoonerAnnie]

It's bad enough that we can't hear game broadcasts while they are being played, 
but I want so very much to hear the beginning of the Eagles' last game! I 
missed the first quarter and a little of the second because we went to church, 
then out for lunch. I didn't worry about it at the time because I knew I would 
be able to listen via NFL Game Pass. Oh wait...guess not...even after coughing 
up all that $$$.   

Ann 
  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have no problem with the 49ers!  But I understand your frustration.  I 
> figure for a hundred bucks we should get better service.  
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Imagine what it is like for me, being a 49ers fan.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> From: Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
>> I forgot about that game last night.  My son in law is a Packers fan so I 
>> tease him every chance I get like when the Bears win which didn't happen 
>> very much in 2015.  Hopefully the 2016 season will be better.  Oh great! now 
>> I'm sounding like the Chicago Cubs.  Wait til next year! LOL!
>> 
>> 
>> Alan
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:59 PM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ditto!!! I wonder what happened all of a sudden when I couldn't get any 
>>> games yesterday! Fortunately, I was able to listen to the Eagles' last game 
>>> via their app, and was also able to get the Rams on the Pro Football app, 
>>> but really wanted to listen to the national broadcast of Vikings-Packers 
>>> game last night. Fortunately, we were able to get it on a local radio 
>>> station, but hopefully they can fix this mess before the playoffs begin! 
>>> Ugh!
>>>  
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am grateful for your post.  I wanted to listen to my team's final game 
>>>> of the season and could not get anything in the games tab to play the 
>>>> audio of any game.  Now the play offs will be starting and I'm afraid they 
>>>> won't get it either.  For a hundred bucks, I damn well expect to listen to 
>>>> my games and not have to sit here wondering WTF is going on.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>>  
>>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kevin Minor <kmino...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve tried all I can think of, and I can’t get the audio feeds in the 
>>>>> Game Day Audio part of the NFL Mobile app to work.  I finally tried 
>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling the app, and it didn’t work.  I then 
>>>>> thought that maybe the site was having issues with their audio feeds, so 
>>>>> I went to it on my PC, and I was able to stream a feed.  I then decided 
>>>>> to contact nfl.com and ask about their mobile app, but I can’t fill out 
>>>>> the form.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have two basic questions.  First, is the app working for others?  
>>>>> Second, if so, how can I contact nfl.com to resolve my issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thankfully the games I wanted to hear are on local radio, but I’d prefer 
>>>>> to hear them on the app.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
>>>>> 
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Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.

[SoonerAnnie]

Yes they will! Just did a live chat with someone who assured me that it was an 
IOS issue, that the NFL was aware of it, and that it would be fixed ASAP. I'm 
with you, Daniel...figured that was the case since they do seem to care ...but 
it is reassuring to know for certain. :) 

Ann 
 

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> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m sure the NFL is working on the problem. They update their app constantly, 
> almost to constantly haha, but it’s a simple issue that needs resolving.
> Is it annoying? Yes. Will they fix it before wildcard weekend starts? Most 
> likely. Be patient, and try not to get in a twist, especially about the 
> price, when that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
> For those that may have missed it, they changed the way audio needs to be 
> played. Once you tap on a feed, there’s a play button that shows up, but 
> unfortunately doesn’t show up with VoiceOver, not even visually.
> Give them time, and they’ll fix it.
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, at least for this season, the 49ers were not worth $100. Perhaps that 
>> is why the NFL didn’t block some of their streams.
>>  
>> Andy
>>  
>> From: Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
>> I have no problem with the 49ers!  But I understand your frustration.  I 
>> figure for a hundred bucks we should get better service.  
>> 
>> Alan
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Imagine what it is like for me, being a 49ers fan.
>>>  
>>> Andy
>>>  
>>> From: Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:31 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
>>> I forgot about that game last night.  My son in law is a Packers fan so I 
>>> tease him every chance I get like when the Bears win which didn't happen 
>>> very much in 2015.  Hopefully the 2016 season will be better.  Oh great! 
>>> now I'm sounding like the Chicago Cubs.  Wait til next year! LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:59 PM, SoonerAnnie <sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ditto!!! I wonder what happened all of a sudden when I couldn't get any 
>>>> games yesterday! Fortunately, I was able to listen to the Eagles' last 
>>>> game via their app, and was also able to get the Rams on the Pro Football 
>>>> app, but really wanted to listen to the national broadcast of 
>>>> Vikings-Packers game last night. Fortunately, we were able to get it on a 
>>>> local radio station, but hopefully they can fix this mess before the 
>>>> playoffs begin! Ugh! 
>>>>  
>>>> Ann 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli 
>>>>> <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am grateful for your post.  I wanted to listen to my team's final game 
>>>>> of the season and could not get anything in the games tab to play the 
>>>>> audio of any game.  Now the play offs will be starting and I'm afraid 
>>>>> they won't get it either.  For a hundred bucks, I damn well expect to 
>>>>> listen to my games and not have to sit here wondering WTF is going on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>  
>>>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kevin Minor <kmino...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I’ve tried all I can think of, and I can’t get the audio feeds in the 
>>>>>> Game Day Audio part of the NFL Mobile app to work.  I finally tried 
>>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling the app, and it didn’t work.  I then 
>>>>>> thought that maybe the site was having issues with their audio feeds, so 
>>>>>> I went to it on my PC, and I was able to stream a feed.  I then decided 
>>>>>> to contact nfl.com and ask about their mobile app, but I can’

Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.

[SoonerAnnie]

It has been worth it to me to be able to listen to games...not only as they are 
happening...but the archived games that might have been played at the same time 
as my team but that I would still enjoy listening to. And...till this latest 
issue that I'm sure will be short-lived...it was very easy to locate the 
broadcasts! 

Ann 


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> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Chris Smart <csma...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
> Yes. I mean, how much does it cost to attend a game? Probably close to what 
> it costs to hear every game of the season, wherever you want to listen.
> 
> At 05:39 PM 1/6/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m sure the NFL is working on the problem. They update their app 
>> constantly, almost to constantly haha, but it’s a simple issue that needs 
>> resolving.
>> Is it annoying? Yes. Will they fix it before wildcard weekend starts? Most 
>> likely. Be patient, and try not to get in a twist, especially about the 
>> price, when that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
>> For those that may have missed it, they changed the way audio needs to be 
>> played. Once you tap on a feed, there’s a play button that shows up, but 
>> unfortunately doesn’t show up with VoiceOver, not even visually.
>> Give them time, and they’ll fix it.
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Andy Baracco 
>>> <<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, at least for this season, the 49ers were not worth $100. Perhaps that 
>>> is why the NFL didn’t block some of their streams.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> From: <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>Alan Paganelli
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 1:35 PM
>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
>>> I have no problem with the 49ers!  But I understand your frustration.  I 
>>> figure for a hundred bucks we should get better service.
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Andy Baracco 
>>>> <<mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Imagine what it is like for me, being a 49ers fan.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> From: <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>Alan Paganelli
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 8:31 AM
>>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.
>>>> I forgot about that game last night.  My son in law is a Packers fan so I 
>>>> tease him every chance I get like when the Bears win which didn't happen 
>>>> very much in 2015.  Hopefully the 2016 season will be better.  Oh great! 
>>>> now I'm sounding like the Chicago Cubs.  Wait til next year! LOL!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:59 PM, SoonerAnnie 
>>>>> <<mailto:sooneran...@att.net>sooneran...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ditto!!! I wonder what happened all of a sudden when I couldn't get any 
>>>>> games yesterday! Fortunately, I was able to listen to the Eagles' last 
>>>>> game via their app, and was also able to get the Rams on the Pro Football 
>>>>> app, but really wanted to listen to the national broadcast of 
>>>>> Vikings-Packers game last night. Fortunately, we were able to get it on a 
>>>>> local radio station, but hopefully they can fix this mess before the 
>>>>> playoffs begin! Ugh!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli 
>>>>>> <<mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am grateful for your post.  I wanted to listen to my team's final game 
>>>>>> of the season and could not get anything in the games tab to play the 
>>>>>> audio of any game.  Now the play offs will be starting and I'm afraid 
>>>>>> they won't get it either.  For a hundred bucks, I damn well expect to 
>>>>>> listen to my games and not have to sit here wonderin

Re: I'm stumped with listening to audio on the NFL Mobile app.

[SoonerAnnie]

Ditto!!! I wonder what happened all of a sudden when I couldn't get any games 
yesterday! Fortunately, I was able to listen to the Eagles' last game via their 
app, and was also able to get the Rams on the Pro Football app, but really 
wanted to listen to the national broadcast of Vikings-Packers game last night. 
Fortunately, we were able to get it on a local radio station, but hopefully 
they can fix this mess before the playoffs begin! Ugh! 

Ann 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> I am grateful for your post.  I wanted to listen to my team's final game of 
> the season and could not get anything in the games tab to play the audio of 
> any game.  Now the play offs will be starting and I'm afraid they won't get 
> it either.  For a hundred bucks, I damn well expect to listen to my games and 
> not have to sit here wondering WTF is going on.
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again.
>>  
>> I’ve tried all I can think of, and I can’t get the audio feeds in the Game 
>> Day Audio part of the NFL Mobile app to work.  I finally tried uninstalling 
>> and reinstalling the app, and it didn’t work.  I then thought that maybe the 
>> site was having issues with their audio feeds, so I went to it on my PC, and 
>> I was able to stream a feed.  I then decided to contact nfl.com and ask 
>> about their mobile app, but I can’t fill out the form.
>>  
>> I have two basic questions.  First, is the app working for others?  Second, 
>> if so, how can I contact nfl.com to resolve my issue?
>>  
>> Thankfully the games I wanted to hear are on local radio, but I’d prefer to 
>> hear them on the app.
>>  
>> Thanks for any info.
>>  
>> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: Want to be certain erase phone

[SoonerAnnie]

I have removed three new, never used iPhones from their original boxes but I 
have never, ever, ever found the SIM card tool in an iPhone box! Where do 
they hide it? Smile! Thank God for paper clips...

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: Want to be certain erase phone


Tracey, as this 9 to 5 Mac article I've pasted below illustrates, wiping 
your iDevice of data is more complex now than before.




If you’re thinking of selling or trading in your current iPhone ahead of the 
iPhone 6S’s release, you probably know that you’ll need to wipe your device 
before a buyer can use it free and clear. Prepping an iPhone for resale used 
to be almost as easy as hitting a “reset” button in the iPhone’s settings 
menu. But over the past few years, the process has become more complex 
thanks to new security, wallet, and cloud-dependent features such as 
Activation Lock, Apple Pay and iTunes in the Cloud. Completely removing all 
of your personal items from your iPhone — and your iPhone from Apple’s 
servers — requires extra work.
Today, I’m going to walk you through the process of thoroughly scrubbing 
your iPhone prior to resale. There are 9 steps to take to make sure your 
device is cleaned up and ready to sell to its next owner. Here they are…
[1] Erase All Content And Settings. The first, easiest, and best-known step 
in wiping your iPhone is found within the Settings app at the bottom of the 
General menu: click on Reset, then “Erase All Content And Settings.” (I’d 
suggest taking this step only after using iTunes to do two complete, 
encrypted backups of your iPhone to your computer. If you’re planning to 
move from iPhone to a non-Apple smartphone, follow Apple’s guide to 
deactivating iMessage before erasing your phone, as well.)
You will be prompted to enter your iPhone’s passcode, then told that “this 
will delete all media and data, and erase all settings.” If you press the 
Erase iPhone button, iOS will ask you for your iCloud account password to 
“erase this iPhone and remove it from your [iCloud] account.”
You’ll be surprised at how quickly the iPhone is wiped — as soon as you’ve 
entered your password and hit erase, you’ll get a notification email on your 
account’s other devices that Find My iPhone was disabled, and it should take 
only a couple of minutes for the wiped iPhone to display “Hello” and “Slide 
to Set Up” text. Is the erasure secure? Well, all of the iPhone’s memory is 
protected using AES-256 encryption, and hitting the Erase iPhone button 
destroys the encryption key. Several security companies have tried to offer 
‘secure erase’ tools that more aggressively scrub the iPhone’s memory, but 
Apple has shut those tools down as ‘misleading,’ noting that the encryption 
is effectively unbreakable. Hitting the Reset button leaves the former 
contents of your device all but completely impossible to recover by a 
subsequent owner. But you’ll be able to get everything back from your 
computer’s encrypted iTunes backup, should you need it.
[2] What About Activation Lock + Disabling Find My iPhone? As shown above, 
you can manually disable Find My iPhone by going into the Settings app’s 
iCloud menu, pressing the Find My iPhone “On” button, flipping the Find My 
iPhone switch to off, and entering your iCloud password. But if you use the 
Erase All Content And Settings feature above, this step is automatically 
handled for you when you enter your iCloud password at the end of the 
process. Either method will disable your iPhone’s “Activation Lock,” the 
security system that allows you to locate, remotely wipe, and send signals 
to an iPhone no longer in your possession. Any purchaser of a used iPhone 
will expect you to have taken this step (or more wisely, the step above) 
before selling your device.
[3] Apple Pay/Credit Card and Touch ID Fingerprint Wiping. If you’re using 
an iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, or newer iPhone, erasing your iPhone will 
automatically purge whatever credit cards and fingerprints you’ve stored in 
your iPhone. (Even attempting to disable fingerprint protection for your 
device will prevent it from storing cards for Apple Pay.) You will probably 
receive a collection of emails from your banks noting each “Virtual card” 
that has been “deleted from Apple Pay,” and you may also receive notices of 
the card’s deletion from your Apple Watch. If you want to manually remove 
individual cards or fingerprints, the Settings app’s Touch ID & Passcode 
menu handles prints, and the Passbook & Apple Pay (iOS 8) or Wallet & Apple 
Pay (iOS 9) menu handles cards. But even if you delete cards for Apple Pay, 
your iPhone can still store card numbers for Safari web transactions; they 
can be deleted under Settings > Safari > AutoFill > Credit Cards.
[4] Carrier Lock + Clearing The ESN/IMEI/MEID. Buyers of used iPhones want 
to avoid purchasing devices that are either stolen, or still under contract 

Re: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.

[SoonerAnnie]

Unfortunately, I don't think you are! Crying face!

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:51 PM
Subject: Bad news concerning gamepass and the NFL mobile app.


Hi all,

Unfortunately, I have some bad news concerning the NFL mobile app and game 
pass. You cannot listen to live radio broadcasts on the app, only through 
the mac or PC.
I really hope I’m really hoping I’m missing something, but it doesn’t look 
like I am.

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Re: Possibly good news about NFL Game Pass for those who want to spend $99

[SoonerAnnie]

I had the seven day trial but since I was unable to access the audio in any 
way, shape or form, I canceled it before I had to pay for it. But if I can 
get games and archived games...even on the computer...that will be a whole 
lot better than nothing! And I, too, will request that they add it to the 
app. Thanks guys!

Ann

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Possibly good news about NFL Game Pass for those who want to 
spend $99


I did too. I urge anyone who has gamepads to do the same thing

  On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:




  Thanks for letting me know.
  I wrote them back requesting that they make it available on the app.
  Richard





  On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:


Hi, that’s the radio audio, that can only be listed to on the mac or PC, 
unfortunately.


  On Sep 10, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


  For anyone who has Game Pass, please let the rest of the folks know if 
this is adding the radio audio, or just the TV audio without the pictures?

  From: customer.serv...@nflhelp.com 
[mailto:customer.serv...@nflhelp.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:03 AM

  Thank you for reaching out to NFL Digital Care.
  We're writing to inform you that we launched the audio section of Game 
Pass today, and we added links to listen to games in live and archive mode 
that we expect screen readers to be able to read. Please let us know any 
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Re: How to Block Facebook Game Requests

[SoonerAnnie]

Guess I'll have to try it on my computer because when I try on my iPhone and 
hit the cancel button, it just takes me back to where I was in Facebook, not 
to the game page.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Lelia leliastr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: How to Block Facebook Game Requests


I have tried but I can't do it still.


lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dacia Cole
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to Block Facebook Game Requests

This is very helpful.  Has anyone blind tried this and knows an easier for a 
blind person to do it?  I definitely want to block the games.

Dacia

On 6/23/15, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 The following comes to us courtesy of SimpleHelp, as many of us are
 Facebook subscribers, I thought I would post it on list.

 Please keep in mind that the steps listed below were written for
 sighted users.

 Mark

 How to Block Facebook Game Requests

 You either love them or you. don't. If you don't, this quick overview
 will explain how to Block requests for Facebook Games (and/or Apps).

 Facebook Games and Apps often entice users into inviting all of their
 friends to participate as well, frequently by offering rewards
 within the game/app itself. So even your most well-meaning friends may
 give into temptation and send you a game request. This brief guide
 will take you step by step through the ways to block those requests.

 1.
 There are two ways to block Facebook Game or App requests - wait until
 you get one, or pro-actively add some of the most popular ones. We'll
 show you how to do both.
 When do you receive a request to play a game, click it (which seems
 like the last thing you'd want to do, but trust us on this one).

 2.
 You'll be presented with a confirmation screen, which will vary in
 look based on the game. Regardless, as soon as that screen appears,
 click the Cancel button.

 3.
 After clicking Cancel, Facebook will redirect you to that games
 Page. On this Page, click the 3 dot button ( . . . ) located on
 the far right side of the Cover photo (see screenshot below).

 4.
 A 'drop-down' menu will appear. From that menu, click Block App

 5.
 Another confirmation window will appear. Review it and click Confirm

 6.
 That's it! No one will be able to send you requests to play that
 specific Game or App ever again.

 The other way to block Facebook game requests is to manually add them.
 Click
 here (opens in a new window/tab) to visit your Facebook Blocking Settings.
 Scroll down the Blocking page until you locate the section titled
 Block apps


 7.
 In the space provided, you can type in Game (and App) names that you
 want to block. As you start typing, a list of Games/Apps will begin to
 appear.
 Select the game you want to block from that list.

 8.
 As of May 2015, the following list contains the 10 most-played games
 on Facebook (source). If you manually type in each game (or copy and
 paste) you'll have a good start on pre-emptively blocking the most popular 
 games.
 Candy Crush Saga
 Candy Crush Soda Saga
 Clash of Clans
 Farm Heroes Saga
 8 Ball Pool
 Hay Day
 Criminal Case
 Trivia Crack
 Pet Rescue Saga
 Bubble Witch 2 Saga

 9.
 If you're reading this guide well after May 2015, you may want to run
 a Google Search for the phrase most popular Facebook games and find a
 more recent list of current popular games.


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Re: Just a Curiosity

[SoonerAnnie]

Oh my! Stained works okay for me but not defeat! Also...and this has been 
going on for a while...if you capitalize the first letter in the word 
tornado it pronounces it torado.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: TaraPrakash taraprak...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Just a Curiosity


Have you encountered the word defeat. It is read like defeature.  Which is 
worse

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 28, 2015, at 10:22 AM, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not sure if this is new or how new it might be. And, it is a small
 thing.

 I have noticed while reading Voiceover will say stainer instead of
 stained. This is when read in a sentence. When read word by word, it 
 reads
 correctly.

 Just my trivial for the day.

 Eric


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Re: MBraille iOS app update

[SoonerAnnie]

Yep...and it's under shopping.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Pelletier
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: MBraille iOS app update


Hi,



You are limited if you weren’t charged. I thought I got away with it also 
but, at some point, you will be told that you have to buy the third party 
keyboard if you want to do this or that.  For instance, you can’t word 
delete if you don’t buy it. You have to go to the app itself and buy it the 
same way you buy any other add-on.



Ron  Danvers





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carla Savage
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update



Hi All,

The way I got round the MBraille problem was to de-install and re-instal it 
again. I like others on this list had purchased MBraille before and I also 
had the problem where my updates weren't recognised. I contacted the 
developer and did the re-install and all is well. Incidentally, i have added 
the keyboard as a 3rd party and have not seemed to be charged. It's working 
well so far and I'm using it to type this email.

Hope this helps,

Carla.



Sent from my iPhone


On 24 Apr 2015, at 4:48 pm, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:

  I don't mind purchasing the add on but have no idea how to make this 
happen. When I got the update there was nothing that said I needed to 
purchase anything if I wanted this keyboard as a third party keyboard, so 
don't have a clue. I purchased the 39-dollar version a month or two ago but 
figure I need that extra little bit to be able to use the keyboard 
correctly. It is hit or miss for me. It types...sometimes...but won't let me 
delete a word. It says I either have to pay for it...which I don't see a way 
to do...or give it permission to access everything, which I have already 
done. If anyone has any thoughts/ideas/knowledge concerning this problem, 
please let me know. Thanks in advance.



  Ann



  - Original Message - 

  From: Cheryl Lenartiene

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 AM

  Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update



  Thanks, all, for the feedback. I did not mean to spark a debate on this 
issue. I was just asking a question. The developer has done a fantastic job, 
and I will gladly purchase the keyboard add-on.

  Cheryl





  Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;

  for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

  1 Thessalonians 5:16-18



  Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@icloud.com wrote:

i too think this is an awesome app and don't have a problem in aiding in 
donation for theEspecially when the developer is responsible and is 
alwayswilling to make improvements. It could have easily been a flop like 
Braille Touch. Justcharge 20 dollars once and don't ever update and 
juabandon the app. Not cool in my opinion.

Rebecca and Zeb

personal email: rilni...@gmail.com

facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5

twitter: zebs_mom

Sent from my IPhone


On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

You know I think this is a very good app.  However, the sales are 
limited because it’s only an app that will benefit blind people.  I can 
understand the developer needing to charge small amounts for improvements to 
the app.  After all this feature is optional.  If you don’t think it’s worth 
while, then simply don’t buy it.  If the app developers received no further 
funding, and therefore couldn’t support the next big iPhone update or fix 
bugs, then that would be a real shame. Also I am on the mBraille list and 
the developer is very responsive regarding feedback improvements etc. why 
not support a good developer and something that benefits people.





Maria and , Joe

bubbygirl1...@gmail.com











On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:56 pm, Dave d.becke...@ntlworld.com wrote:





  you could just leave your keyboard set to mBraille.

  and i don't call 7 pounds, being ripped off!

  The developers, have to make a relatively small charge, so they can 
keep improving thee app.

  It always makes me laugh, when i hear people complaining!!

  but the same people, are happy to spend a fortune, on getting the 
latest and greatest iDevice!

  Some blind people, want everything for nothing!!

  Dave.

  -Original Message- From: Brett
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update

  Given that most people will have to flick past the emogy keyboard 
before getting to mbraille, it seems quicker to just flick the rotor once 
and use iOS braille and skip being fleased.

  Cheers, Brett.

  Sent from Brett's iPhone




On 24 Apr 2015, at 5:19 pm, christopher hallsworth 
challswor

Re: MBraille iOS app update

[SoonerAnnie]

That is indeed interesting, Carla. I didn't mind paying for that keyboard 
one bit! I like IOS's inline Braille a lot, but the thing I don't especially 
like is that when  you're using contracted Braille, it doesn't say anything 
till you have finished typing the word. Most of the time it's okay but now 
and then it isn't. MBraille is really nice the way it lets you use Grade 2 
and still speaks characters.

Take care...and thanks for your input.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Carla Savage
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


Hi Ann,
That's very interesting as the shopping option hasn't yet come up on my 
phone but I'm still able to use MBraille just fine. it's taken a while to 
see exactly how things work. I use the emogy keyboard quite a lot and I 
couldn't fathom out how to switch keyboards quickly but I thin' I've got the 
hang of it now. Swiping right with 3 fingers does the trick.  So, I'll see 
what happens about the shopping option. I've got no problem about paying for 
this as I really like the responsiveness of MBraille as opposed to the IOS 
braille input method.
Take care,
Carla.

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Apr 2015, at 6:38 pm, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:


  Well, I finally found where to buy the keyboard! When you first launch the 
app, it lists things such as Braille keyboard, mail, Facebook, Twitter, etc. 
The last thing in that list is shopping. That hadn't been there earlier, so 
that's why I couldn't find it. And now it's working well. I am typing this 
email with it.


  Ann


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 24, 2015, at 12:17 PM, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:


Can you delete words? I, too, uninstalled and reinstalled the app and am 
still having that problem. It hasn't charged me for using the keyboard as a 
third party keyboard but, as I have previously mentioned, it isn't working 
quite right for me yet. I even powered my phone off, waited a few minutes, 
then powered it back on. Glad yours is working well. *smile*

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Carla Savage
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


Hi All,
The way I got round the MBraille problem was to de-install and re-instal 
it again. I like others on this list had purchased MBraille before and I 
also had the problem where my updates weren't recognised. I contacted the 
developer and did the re-install and all is well. Incidentally, i have added 
the keyboard as a 3rd party and have not seemed to be charged. It's working 
well so far and I'm using it to type this email.
Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Apr 2015, at 4:48 pm, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:


  I don't mind purchasing the add on but have no idea how to make this 
happen. When I got the update there was nothing that said I needed to 
purchase anything if I wanted this keyboard as a third party keyboard, so 
don't have a clue. I purchased the 39-dollar version a month or two ago but 
figure I need that extra little bit to be able to use the keyboard 
correctly. It is hit or miss for me. It types...sometimes...but won't let me 
delete a word. It says I either have to pay for it...which I don't see a way 
to do...or give it permission to access everything, which I have already 
done. If anyone has any thoughts/ideas/knowledge concerning this problem, 
please let me know. Thanks in advance.

  Ann

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Lenartiene
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 AM
  Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


  Thanks, all, for the feedback. I did not mean to spark a debate on 
this issue. I was just asking a question. The developer has done a fantastic 
job, and I will gladly purchase the keyboard add-on.

  Cheryl


  Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
  for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
  1 Thessalonians 5:16-18


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@icloud.com 
wrote:


i too think this is an awesome app and don't have a problem in 
aiding in donation for theEspecially when the developer is responsible and 
is alwayswilling to make improvements. It could have easily been a flop like 
Braille Touch. Justcharge 20 dollars once and don't ever update and 
juabandon the app. Not cool in my opinion.

Rebecca and Zeb
personal email: rilni...@gmail.com
facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
twitter: zebs_mom
Sent from my IPhone

On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:


You know I think this is a very good app.  However, the sales are 
limited because it’s only an app that will benefit blind people.  I can 
understand

Re: MBraille iOS app update

[SoonerAnnie]

I don't mind purchasing the add on but have no idea how to make this happen. 
When I got the update there was nothing that said I needed to purchase 
anything if I wanted this keyboard as a third party keyboard, so don't have 
a clue. I purchased the 39-dollar version a month or two ago but figure I 
need that extra little bit to be able to use the keyboard correctly. It is 
hit or miss for me. It types...sometimes...but won't let me delete a word. 
It says I either have to pay for it...which I don't see a way to do...or 
give it permission to access everything, which I have already done. If 
anyone has any thoughts/ideas/knowledge concerning this problem, please let 
me know. Thanks in advance.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Lenartiene
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


Thanks, all, for the feedback. I did not mean to spark a debate on this 
issue. I was just asking a question. The developer has done a fantastic job, 
and I will gladly purchase the keyboard add-on.

Cheryl


Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@icloud.com wrote:


  i too think this is an awesome app and don't have a problem in aiding in 
donation for theEspecially when the developer is responsible and is 
alwayswilling to make improvements. It could have easily been a flop like 
Braille Touch. Justcharge 20 dollars once and don't ever update and 
juabandon the app. Not cool in my opinion.

  Rebecca and Zeb
  personal email: rilni...@gmail.com
  facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
  twitter: zebs_mom
  Sent from my IPhone

  On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:


  You know I think this is a very good app.  However, the sales are limited 
because it’s only an app that will benefit blind people.  I can understand 
the developer needing to charge small amounts for improvements to the app. 
After all this feature is optional.  If you don’t think it’s worth while, 
then simply don’t buy it.  If the app developers received no further 
funding, and therefore couldn’t support the next big iPhone update or fix 
bugs, then that would be a real shame. Also I am on the mBraille list and 
the developer is very responsive regarding feedback improvements etc. why 
not support a good developer and something that benefits people.



  Maria and , Joe
  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com











  On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:56 pm, Dave d.becke...@ntlworld.com wrote:


you could just leave your keyboard set to mBraille.

and i don't call 7 pounds, being ripped off!

The developers, have to make a relatively small charge, so they can keep 
improving thee app.

It always makes me laugh, when i hear people complaining!!

but the same people, are happy to spend a fortune, on getting the latest 
and greatest iDevice!

Some blind people, want everything for nothing!!

Dave.

-Original Message- From: Brett
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update

Given that most people will have to flick past the emogy keyboard before 
getting to mbraille, it seems quicker to just flick the rotor once and use 
iOS braille and skip being fleased.

Cheers, Brett.

Sent from Brett's iPhone


  On 24 Apr 2015, at 5:19 pm, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

  I have not seen any information on the below sent to any other lists 
apart from my own, so excuse the cross posting, but enjoy!

  Hello everyone

  I hope you like the subject.

  Well, ladies and gentleman, I can't believe I can bring such exciting 
news to you iOS users who can write Braille. Yes, iOS 8 includes Braille 
Screen Input. But, we're not talking about that, we're talking about 
MBraille. Why? Well, let me introduce you to this exciting update.

  As of today, you will be able to download and install MBraille, as 
usual, to your iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch. Now, suspense over, you can use 
this very app as a third party keyboard for your device! Yes, that's 
correct! MBraille can now be used as a third party keyboard, providing you 
are willing to make an in-app purchase to activate this function. I can also 
reveal that I have been testing this exciting update privately thanks to 
Apple's Test Flight Program which I was kindly invited to by its developer. 
The testing went extremely well. During the test cycle they announced that 
there would be an introductory offer of $9.99 to activate MBraille KB, the 
function to use MBraille as a third party keyboard. But don't worry if you 
can't afford even that much; you can still use MBraille proper, or the 
MBraille you used to know and love. That isn't going away any time soon, I 
can assure you of 

Re: MBraille iOS app update

[SoonerAnnie]

Can you delete words? I, too, uninstalled and reinstalled the app and am 
still having that problem. It hasn't charged me for using the keyboard as a 
third party keyboard but, as I have previously mentioned, it isn't working 
quite right for me yet. I even powered my phone off, waited a few minutes, 
then powered it back on. Glad yours is working well. *smile*

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Carla Savage
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


Hi All,
The way I got round the MBraille problem was to de-install and re-instal it 
again. I like others on this list had purchased MBraille before and I also 
had the problem where my updates weren't recognised. I contacted the 
developer and did the re-install and all is well. Incidentally, i have added 
the keyboard as a 3rd party and have not seemed to be charged. It's working 
well so far and I'm using it to type this email.
Hope this helps,
Carla.


Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Apr 2015, at 4:48 pm, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:


  I don't mind purchasing the add on but have no idea how to make this 
happen. When I got the update there was nothing that said I needed to 
purchase anything if I wanted this keyboard as a third party keyboard, so 
don't have a clue. I purchased the 39-dollar version a month or two ago but 
figure I need that extra little bit to be able to use the keyboard 
correctly. It is hit or miss for me. It types...sometimes...but won't let me 
delete a word. It says I either have to pay for it...which I don't see a way 
to do...or give it permission to access everything, which I have already 
done. If anyone has any thoughts/ideas/knowledge concerning this problem, 
please let me know. Thanks in advance.

  Ann

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Lenartiene
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 AM
  Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update


  Thanks, all, for the feedback. I did not mean to spark a debate on this 
issue. I was just asking a question. The developer has done a fantastic job, 
and I will gladly purchase the keyboard add-on.

  Cheryl


  Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
  for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
  1 Thessalonians 5:16-18


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@icloud.com wrote:


i too think this is an awesome app and don't have a problem in aiding in 
donation for theEspecially when the developer is responsible and is 
alwayswilling to make improvements. It could have easily been a flop like 
Braille Touch. Justcharge 20 dollars once and don't ever update and 
juabandon the app. Not cool in my opinion.

Rebecca and Zeb
personal email: rilni...@gmail.com
facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
twitter: zebs_mom
Sent from my IPhone

On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:


You know I think this is a very good app.  However, the sales are 
limited because it’s only an app that will benefit blind people.  I can 
understand the developer needing to charge small amounts for improvements to 
the app.  After all this feature is optional.  If you don’t think it’s worth 
while, then simply don’t buy it.  If the app developers received no further 
funding, and therefore couldn’t support the next big iPhone update or fix 
bugs, then that would be a real shame. Also I am on the mBraille list and 
the developer is very responsive regarding feedback improvements etc. why 
not support a good developer and something that benefits people.



Maria and , Joe
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com











On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:56 pm, Dave d.becke...@ntlworld.com wrote:


  you could just leave your keyboard set to mBraille.

  and i don't call 7 pounds, being ripped off!

  The developers, have to make a relatively small charge, so they can 
keep improving thee app.

  It always makes me laugh, when i hear people complaining!!

  but the same people, are happy to spend a fortune, on getting the 
latest and greatest iDevice!

  Some blind people, want everything for nothing!!

  Dave.

  -Original Message- From: Brett
  Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update

  Given that most people will have to flick past the emogy keyboard 
before getting to mbraille, it seems quicker to just flick the rotor once 
and use iOS braille and skip being fleased.

  Cheers, Brett.

  Sent from Brett's iPhone


On 24 Apr 2015, at 5:19 pm, christopher hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:

I have not seen any information on the below sent to any other lists 
apart from my own, so excuse the cross posting, but enjoy!

Hello everyone

I hope you like the subject.

Well, ladies and gentleman, I can't

Re: MBraille iOS app update

[SoonerAnnie]

Well, I finally found where to buy the keyboard! When you first launch the app, 
it lists things such as Braille keyboard, mail, Facebook, Twitter, etc. The 
last thing in that list is shopping. That hadn't been there earlier, so that's 
why I couldn't find it. And now it's working well. I am typing this email with 
it. 

Ann 


Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 24, 2015, at 12:17 PM, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:
 
 Can you delete words? I, too, uninstalled and reinstalled the app and am 
 still having that problem. It hasn't charged me for using the keyboard as a 
 third party keyboard but, as I have previously mentioned, it isn't working 
 quite right for me yet. I even powered my phone off, waited a few minutes, 
 then powered it back on. Glad yours is working well. *smile*
  
 Ann
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Carla Savage
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
 Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update
 
 Hi All,
 The way I got round the MBraille problem was to de-install and re-instal it 
 again. I like others on this list had purchased MBraille before and I also 
 had the problem where my updates weren't recognised. I contacted the 
 developer and did the re-install and all is well. Incidentally, i have added 
 the keyboard as a 3rd party and have not seemed to be charged. It's working 
 well so far and I'm using it to type this email. 
 Hope this helps, 
 Carla. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 24 Apr 2015, at 4:48 pm, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:
 
 I don't mind purchasing the add on but have no idea how to make this happen. 
 When I got the update there was nothing that said I needed to purchase 
 anything if I wanted this keyboard as a third party keyboard, so don't have 
 a clue. I purchased the 39-dollar version a month or two ago but figure I 
 need that extra little bit to be able to use the keyboard correctly. It is 
 hit or miss for me. It types...sometimes...but won't let me delete a word. 
 It says I either have to pay for it...which I don't see a way to do...or 
 give it permission to access everything, which I have already done. If 
 anyone has any thoughts/ideas/knowledge concerning this problem, please let 
 me know. Thanks in advance.
  
 Ann
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Lenartiene
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:34 AM
 Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update
 
 Thanks, all, for the feedback. I did not mean to spark a debate on this 
 issue. I was just asking a question. The developer has done a fantastic job, 
 and I will gladly purchase the keyboard add-on.
 
 Cheryl
 
 Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
 for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 i too think this is an awesome app and don't have a problem in aiding in 
 donation for theEspecially when the developer is responsible and is 
 alwayswilling to make improvements. It could have easily been a flop like 
 Braille Touch. Justcharge 20 dollars once and don't ever update and 
 juabandon the app. Not cool in my opinion. 
 
 Rebecca and Zeb
 personal email: rilni...@gmail.com
 facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
 twitter: zebs_mom
 Sent from my IPhone 
 
 On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You know I think this is a very good app.  However, the sales are limited 
 because it’s only an app that will benefit blind people.  I can understand 
 the developer needing to charge small amounts for improvements to the app.  
 After all this feature is optional.  If you don’t think it’s worth while, 
 then simply don’t buy it.  If the app developers received no further 
 funding, and therefore couldn’t support the next big iPhone update or fix 
 bugs, then that would be a real shame. Also I am on the mBraille list and 
 the developer is very responsive regarding feedback improvements etc. why 
 not support a good developer and something that benefits people.
  
 
 Maria and , Joe 
 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:56 pm, Dave d.becke...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 you could just leave your keyboard set to mBraille.
 
 and i don't call 7 pounds, being ripped off!
 
 The developers, have to make a relatively small charge, so they can keep 
 improving thee app.
 
 It always makes me laugh, when i hear people complaining!!
 
 but the same people, are happy to spend a fortune, on getting the latest 
 and greatest iDevice!
 
 Some blind people, want everything for nothing!!
 
 Dave.
 
 -Original Message- From: Brett
 Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 12:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MBraille iOS app update
 
 Given that most people will have to flick past the emogy keyboard before 
 getting to mbraille, it seems quicker to just flick the rotor once and use 
 iOS braille and skip being fleased

Re: Electronic Version of Amazon Basics Bluetooth Quick-start Guide?

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi David - sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you! The key 
combination to lock and unlock the screen on the Logitech K810 is function 
key plus escape.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: David Justice dljustice...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Electronic Version of Amazon Basics Bluetooth Quick-start 
Guide?



So what is the key combo for locking the screen with the Logitech K810?  TIA


  David Justice :)


 On Mar 9, 2015, at 7:33 PM, SoonerAnnie sooneran...@att.net wrote:

 Most of the keyboards I have do have the ability to lock the screen,
 including the Logitech K810 but, as Teresa says, not the biggest deal in 
 the
 world. Smile!

 Ann


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