RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

>From everything one hears and reads the differences between the regular phones 
>and the Pro phones is only getting larger and there is even talk of an iPhone 
>15 Ultra for next year so who knows.
I would not at all be surprised if next year's regular iPhone 15 will get the 
A16 chip which is now in the 14 Pro and that the newest A17 chip will again 
only be in the Pro phones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since they have 
the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with anything less than the 
14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, probably better, wait for the 15 and 
see if they do the same dumb—s trick of giving the pro models the new chip and 
leaving the previous chip in the non-pro models…




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next year and 
buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year the Lightning 
port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id 
again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture 
and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Good morning, everyone -

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
I’m with AT
Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?
I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.
Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.
Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.
Jim

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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why should you have waited? If  you need or really want a new phone then that 
is when you should get one. You can always wait for the next year's phones if 
you think that way. In your case I think you upgraded from an iPhone 8 to a 13 
Pro Max which is a significant upgrade. What I don't really understand is when 
people upgrade from a 13 Pro to a 14 Pro or even a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro. There 
are two technologies which I think I would like to have and that is LiDAR and 
Mag Safe charging, but neither I find is critical enough for me to even warrant 
an upgrade from my 11 to a 14 Pro. Apart from LiDAR I can't think of a single 
thing off the top of my hat which I could do with an iPhone 14 Pro that I can't 
do with my 11.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max I have is 
working great.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
> chip in the non-pro models…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
>
>
> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next 
> year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next 
> year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its 
> place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face Id is 
> unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly won't 
> upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
>
>
> Good morning, everyone -
>
>
>
> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I 
> have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there 
> are a few issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these 
> days. Since I have the opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do 
> that.
>
> I’m with AT
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those 
> who have either phone, how do you like them?
>
> I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to 
> continue this streak if I do upgrade.
>
> Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple 
> Store and get a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still 
> doing all of the necessary research.
>
> Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or 
> disadvantages of the new iPhone 14.
>
> Jim
>
>
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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Carolyn]

I think they are being forced to abandon lightning, because of some kind of 
regulation recently coming down. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

So Apple is going to ditch their proprietary Lightning connector and switch to 
USBC on the iPhones and therefore across all of their products? That's awesome!

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year or 
two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is unclear if 
that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer speeds will 
be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone with a couple 
hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of microprocessors 
that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am happy to have an 
iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy 
straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>
> Take care.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max 
>> I have is working great.
>>
>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>>
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site: 
>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4651b906d3a346b7df7608daa95e
>>> d6c4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638008522036091575
>>> %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>>> 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=EWvfNviS23emmIWR0s
>>> 38YZkp32FXBqzEPl6SYELakjA%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until 
>>> next year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely 
>>> that next year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put 
>>> in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face 
>>> Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly 
>>> won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>>> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of up

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Carolyn]

I guess it is the connector of the future. 

Still, I have three lightning cables, so want to get that 14 Pro. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

USB C is a plug style that has been used on Mac computers for a while. It is 
becoming more common everywhere. It allows for faster data transfer. It looks 
very much similar to the lightning plug, but is slightly larger and has an 
opening in it, though you have to be paying close attention to detect it by 
touch.
It also has no right way to plug it in; just like lightning plugs so you do not 
have to worry about having it oriented correctly.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:



What is USBC? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of portillo@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Thanks for the information, Kelly.
As I was telling someone off list, I normally wouldn't mind waiting for 
something better. I'm just at a point right now where if I don't upgrade my 
current phone, I'm going to need it looked at, fixed, or replaced. 
My current iPhone 12 has begun getting quite warm at times, even when 
not in use. At one point, it got down-right hot, and I'd never seen that 
before. I even got the message that the battery stopped charging because the 
phone had overheated or something.
I'm trying to see what will be the best for me financially. Ultimately 
I'd love to simply get the USBC deal on the phone.
Decisions.
Jim


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a 
year or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is 
unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer 
speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone 
with a couple hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole 
electronics industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor 
on the iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor 
is that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of 
microprocessors that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am happy 
to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I enjoy the 
new snazzy straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:


Hi, Joshua,





I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a 
great sound.


I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a 
Home 


button, but I adapted to it very quickly.





Take care.





Esther





Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
 wrote:





I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but 
the 13 pro max 


I have is working great.





On 10/8/22, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the 
regular 14 models since 


they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 
series, don’t bother with 


anything less than the 14 pro, or get a 
discounted 

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Richard Turner]

It would appear Apple is going to use USBC.  Their MagSafe chargers use it, 
their AirPods Max cable requires a USBC charger, though the headphones 
themselves have the Lightning port, their Macs have had USBC ports for a while 
now.
I'm not sure Apple will have a choice if they want to survive in Europe.

But, this is straying off topic so I will stop now.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Jim,

For this reason, I obtain iPhone insurance for 2.5 years from when I purchase 
the device. After then, buying a used iPhone makes more sense than paying the 
insurance.  So far, I never have had to use it. Some credit cards, like the 
chase Premier card, offers cell phone insurance that covers theft and out of 
warrantee repairs.  Your dilemma reminds me of the position I was in with my 
windows desktop 10 years ago. My XP was falling apart and I really disliked the 
long boot up process that was still present in Windows 7. The upcoming Windows 
8 promised a near instant on experience. I decided to go to a computer reseller 
who was offering Intel Pentium machines running Windows XP to hold me over 
until Windows 8. When the new version of Windows was released, 8 was a disaster 
and I waited an additional year for Windows 8.1 when I bought a super speedy 
Windows computer.  Personally, I would not want to be running around with 512 
or a terabyte of memory on my iPhone in five years with the transfer speed of 
USB 2, which is the current standard.
The transfer rate is 480 MBPS. USB 4 with USBC will have either a 40 or 80 gig 
per second transfer rate, depending on the specification Apple chooses to 
implement.

Christopher, the European Union is forcing the issue by requiring all 
electronic devices to use USBC. Tony Fadell, who invented the iPod, said the EU 
action was necessary at this point because Apple is now a monopoly and someone 
needs to force the issue because competition cannot.  The question will be 
which technology standard Apple will adopt.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> So Apple is going to ditch their proprietary Lightning connector and 
> switch to USBC on the iPhones and therefore across all of their 
> products? That's awesome!
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
> Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait 
> a year or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have 
> USBC. It is unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole 
> lineup.  Transfer speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB 
> in storage on my iPhone with a couple hundred gigs for music.
> Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole 
> electronics industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The 
> processor on the iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in 
> the 13 Pro. The rumor is that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the 
> new generation of microprocessors that will be much faster and more 
> energy efficient.  I am happy to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait 
> for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy straight side design that 
> started with the iPhone 12.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
>> Hi, Joshua,
>>
>> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great 
>> sound.
>> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
>> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro 
>>> max I have is working great.
>>>
>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models 
>>>> since they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother 
>>>> with anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>>> trick of giving the pro models

Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[B. J. Maynard]

hi,
heh, as I have stated a few times on list.  I went from a 6+ to a 14 pro. 
ifthis roomer turns out to be true I hope they keep USBC to lightning cables 
around a while till I upgrade again.  I think part of this roomer is rooted 
in the EU trying to force apple to  change lightning to USBC.  I saw a 
headline about it in apple news. I am not sure how  successful they will be 
but,  my 14 pro came with a USBC brick to lightning so it probly would not 
be a large leap if apple to use USBC insted of lightning.  I do not know if 
it would make a difference other than USBC being more universal than 
lightning. Both ends would be usbc if this turns out to be what apple does.


Does the lightning end slow down charging or something if the brick is USBC? 
Just wondering what a difference it would make other htan  making apple to 
be like other phone makers using USBC charging ports inthe phone and I 
assume other divices like tablets.


B. J. Maynard
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2022 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?


So Apple is going to ditch their proprietary Lightning connector and switch 
to USBC on the iPhones and therefore across all of their products? That's 
awesome!


--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce

Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year 
or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is 
unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer 
speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone 
with a couple hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of 
microprocessors that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am 
happy to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I 
enjoy the new snazzy straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.


Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:

Hi, Joshua,

I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home
button, but I adapted to it very quickly.

Take care.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max
I have is working great.


On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since
they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with
anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or,
probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s
trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous
chip in the non-pro models…









Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it.”
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



My web site:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4651b906d3a346b7df7608daa95e
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?



Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until
next year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely
that next year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put
in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face
Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly
won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On
Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?



Good morning, everyone -



I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I
have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However,
there are a few issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the

Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Kelly Pierce]

Jim,

For this reason, I obtain iPhone insurance for 2.5 years from when I
purchase the device. After then, buying a used iPhone makes more sense
than paying the insurance.  So far, I never have had to use it. Some
credit cards, like the chase Premier card, offers cell phone insurance
that covers theft and out of warrantee repairs.  Your dilemma reminds
me of the position I was in with my windows desktop 10 years ago. My
XP was falling apart and I really disliked the long boot up process
that was still present in Windows 7. The upcoming Windows 8 promised a
near instant on experience. I decided to go to a computer reseller who
was offering Intel Pentium machines running Windows XP to hold me over
until Windows 8. When the new version of Windows was released, 8 was a
disaster and I waited an additional year for Windows 8.1 when I bought
a super speedy Windows computer.  Personally, I would not want to be
running around with 512 or a terabyte of memory on my iPhone in five
years with the transfer speed of USB 2, which is the current standard.
The transfer rate is 480 MBPS. USB 4 with USBC will have either a 40
or 80 gig per second transfer rate, depending on the specification
Apple chooses to implement.

Christopher, the European Union is forcing the issue by requiring all
electronic devices to use USBC. Tony Fadell, who invented the iPod,
said the EU action was necessary at this point because Apple is now a
monopoly and someone needs to force the issue because competition
cannot.  The question will be which technology standard Apple will
adopt.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> So Apple is going to ditch their proprietary Lightning connector and switch
> to USBC on the iPhones and therefore across all of their products? That's
> awesome!
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
> Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year
> or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is
> unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer
> speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone
> with a couple hundred gigs for music.
> Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics
> industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the
> iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is
> that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of
> microprocessors that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am
> happy to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I
> enjoy the new snazzy straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
>> Hi, Joshua,
>>
>> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great
>> sound.
>> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home
>> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max
>>> I have is working great.
>>>
>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since
>>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with
>>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or,
>>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s
>>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous
>>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My web site:
>>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4651b906d3a346b7df7608daa95e
>>>> d6c4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638008522036091575
>>>> 

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Christopher Chaltain]

So Apple is going to ditch their proprietary Lightning connector and switch to 
USBC on the iPhones and therefore across all of their products? That's awesome!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year or 
two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is unclear if 
that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer speeds will 
be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone with a couple 
hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of microprocessors 
that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am happy to have an 
iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy 
straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>
> Take care.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max 
>> I have is working great.
>>
>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>>
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site: 
>>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4651b906d3a346b7df7608daa95e
>>> d6c4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638008522036091575
>>> %7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>>> 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=EWvfNviS23emmIWR0s
>>> 38YZkp32FXBqzEPl6SYELakjA%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until 
>>> next year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely 
>>> that next year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put 
>>> in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face 
>>> Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly 
>>> won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>>> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I 
>>> have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, 
>>> there are a few issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the 
>>> phone these days. Since I have the opportunity to at least look at 
>>> upgrading, I might do that.
>>>
>>> I’m with AT
>>>
>>> Does an

Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Richard Turner]

USB C is a plug style that has been used on Mac computers for a while. It is 
becoming more common everywhere. It allows for faster data transfer. It looks 
very much similar to the lightning plug, but is slightly larger and has an 
opening in it, though you have to be paying close attention to detect it by 
touch.
It also has no right way to plug it in; just like lightning plugs so you do not 
have to worry about having it oriented correctly.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> What is USBC? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> portillo@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 3:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
> 
> Thanks for the information, Kelly.
> As I was telling someone off list, I normally wouldn't mind waiting for 
> something better. I'm just at a point right now where if I don't upgrade my 
> current phone, I'm going to need it looked at, fixed, or replaced. 
> My current iPhone 12 has begun getting quite warm at times, even when not in 
> use. At one point, it got down-right hot, and I'd never seen that before. I 
> even got the message that the battery stopped charging because the phone had 
> overheated or something.
> I'm trying to see what will be the best for me financially. Ultimately I'd 
> love to simply get the USBC deal on the phone.
> Decisions.
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
> 
> Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year 
> or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is 
> unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer 
> speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone 
> with a couple hundred gigs for music.
> Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
> industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
> iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
> that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of 
> microprocessors that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am 
> happy to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I 
> enjoy the new snazzy straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
>> Hi, Joshua,
>> 
>> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
>> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
>> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>> 
>>>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max 
>>> I have is working great.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
>>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
>>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
>>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> 
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Carolyn]

What is USBC? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
portillo@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Thanks for the information, Kelly.
As I was telling someone off list, I normally wouldn't mind waiting for 
something better. I'm just at a point right now where if I don't upgrade my 
current phone, I'm going to need it looked at, fixed, or replaced. 
My current iPhone 12 has begun getting quite warm at times, even when not in 
use. At one point, it got down-right hot, and I'd never seen that before. I 
even got the message that the battery stopped charging because the phone had 
overheated or something.
I'm trying to see what will be the best for me financially. Ultimately I'd love 
to simply get the USBC deal on the phone.
Decisions.
Jim


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year or 
two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is unclear if 
that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer speeds will 
be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone with a couple 
hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of microprocessors 
that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am happy to have an 
iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy 
straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>
> Take care.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max 
>> I have is working great.
>>
>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>>
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until 
>>> next year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely 
>>> that next year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put 
>>> in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face 
>>> Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly 
>>> won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>>> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I 
>>> have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. Howeve

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[portillo.jim]

Thanks for the information, Kelly.
As I was telling someone off list, I normally wouldn't mind waiting for 
something better. I'm just at a point right now where if I don't upgrade my 
current phone, I'm going to need it looked at, fixed, or replaced. 
My current iPhone 12 has begun getting quite warm at times, even when not in 
use. At one point, it got down-right hot, and I'd never seen that before. I 
even got the message that the battery stopped charging because the phone had 
overheated or something.
I'm trying to see what will be the best for me financially. Ultimately I'd love 
to simply get the USBC deal on the phone.
Decisions.
Jim


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait a year or 
two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have USBC. It is unclear if 
that will only be for the Pros or for the whole lineup.  Transfer speeds will 
be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB in storage on my iPhone with a couple 
hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole electronics 
industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The processor on the 
iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in the 13 Pro. The rumor is 
that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the new generation of microprocessors 
that will be much faster and more energy efficient.  I am happy to have an 
iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy 
straight side design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home 
> button, but I adapted to it very quickly.
>
> Take care.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max 
>> I have is working great.
>>
>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since 
>>> they have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with 
>>> anything less than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, 
>>> probably better, wait for the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s 
>>> trick of giving the pro models the new chip and leaving the previous 
>>> chip in the non-pro models…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>>
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until 
>>> next year and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely 
>>> that next year the Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put 
>>> in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id again in addition to Face 
>>> Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture and I certainly 
>>> won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
>>> Behalf Of Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I 
>>> have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, 
>>> there are a few issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the 
>>> phone these days. Since I have the opportunity to at least look at 
>>> upgrading, I might do that.
>>>
>>> I’m with AT
>>>
>>

RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Carolyn]

I know that I intend to upgrade from my 11 to a 14 Pro. I am planning a move, 
so will do that afterward, probably in three or four months. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Good morning, everyone -

 

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.

I’m with AT

Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?

I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.

Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.

Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.

Jim

 

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Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Kelly Pierce]

Unless folks have a really old phone, I am recommending everyone wait
a year or two for future upgrades. Yes, the 2023 iPhones will have
USBC. It is unclear if that will only be for the Pros or for the whole
lineup.  Transfer speeds will be dramatically faster. I have a 512 GB
in storage on my iPhone with a couple hundred gigs for music.
Transferring these files will take a lot less time.  The whole
electronics industry is adopting USBC so it is worth waiting for. The
processor on the iPhone 14 Pro is just eight percent faster than in
the 13 Pro. The rumor is that the iPhone in 2023 or 2024 will have the
new generation of microprocessors that will be much faster and more
energy efficient.  I am happy to have an iPhone 13 Mini so I can wait
for these innovations while I enjoy the new snazzy straight side
design that started with the iPhone 12.

Kelly



On 10/8/22, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> Hi, Joshua,
>
> I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.
> I thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home button,
> but I adapted to it very quickly.
>
> Take care.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>
>> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>
>> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max I
>> have is working great.
>>
>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since
>>> they
>>> have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with anything
>>> less
>>> than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, probably better, wait
>>> for
>>> the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s trick of giving the pro models
>>> the
>>> new chip and leaving the previous chip in the non-pro models…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>>
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next
>>> year
>>> and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year
>>> the
>>> Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether
>>> we'll
>>> see Touch Id again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely
>>> out
>>> of the picture and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works
>>> great
>>> until next year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Jim Portillo
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning, everyone -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have
>>> the
>>> iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few
>>> issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since
>>> I
>>> have the opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
>>>
>>> I’m with AT
>>>
>>> Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those
>>> who
>>> have either phone, how do you like them?
>>>
>>> I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to
>>> continue
>>> this streak if I do upgrade.
>>>
>>> Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store
>>> and
>>> get a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all
>>> of
>>> the necessary research.
>>>
>>> Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or
>>> disadvantages
>>> of the new iPhone 14.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>&

Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Joshua,

I also love my 13 Pro Max.  When I play music on it, it has a great sound.  I 
thought it would take me a long time to use a phone without a Home button, but 
I adapted to it very quickly.

Take care.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Oct 8, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max I
> have is working great.
> 
>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since they
>> have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with anything less
>> than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, probably better, wait for
>> the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s trick of giving the pro models the
>> new chip and leaving the previous chip in the non-pro models…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next year
>> and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year the
>> Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether we'll
>> see Touch Id again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely out
>> of the picture and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great
>> until next year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Jim Portillo
>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good morning, everyone -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the
>> iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few
>> issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I
>> have the opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
>> 
>> I’m with AT
>> 
>> Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who
>> have either phone, how do you like them?
>> 
>> I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue
>> this streak if I do upgrade.
>> 
>> Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and
>> get a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of
>> the necessary research.
>> 
>> Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages
>> of the new iPhone 14.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
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Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I probably should have waited for the 14 pro max, but the 13 pro max I
have is working great.

On 10/8/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since they
> have the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with anything less
> than the 14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, probably better, wait for
> the 15 and see if they do the same dumb—s trick of giving the pro models the
> new chip and leaving the previous chip in the non-pro models…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
>
>
> Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next year
> and buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year the
> Lightning port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether we'll
> see Touch Id again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely out
> of the picture and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great
> until next year.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Jim Portillo
> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?
>
>
>
> Good morning, everyone -
>
>
>
> I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the
> iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few
> issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I
> have the opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
>
> I’m with AT
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who
> have either phone, how do you like them?
>
> I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue
> this streak if I do upgrade.
>
> Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and
> get a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of
> the necessary research.
>
> Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages
> of the new iPhone 14.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Richard Turner]

Also, Sieghard makes a great point about the regular 14 models since they have 
the same chip as the iPhone 13 series, don’t bother with anything less than the 
14 pro, or get a discounted 13 pro, or, probably better, wait for the 15 and 
see if they do the same dumb—s trick of giving the pro models the new chip and 
leaving the previous chip in the non-pro models…

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

 

Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next year and 
buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year the Lightning 
port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id 
again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture 
and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

 

Good morning, everyone -

 

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.

I’m with AT

Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?

I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.

Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.

Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.

Jim

 

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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Having said what I said in my previous message I would wait until next year and 
buy an iPhone 15 or 15 Pro. It is extremely likely that next year the Lightning 
port goes away and a USB-C port is put in its place; whether we'll see Touch Id 
again in addition to Face Id is unlikely but not entirely out of the picture 
and I certainly won't upgrade my iPhone 11 which works great until next year.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Good morning, everyone -

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
I’m with AT
Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?
I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.
Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.
Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.
Jim

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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You'll get the most if you were to sell your iPhone 12 privately.
If you do buy a 14 series phone I would only consider the iPhone 14 Pro, 
otherwise you may as well buy an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro which you probably can 
find good deals for since the regular iPhone 14 has the same chip as the iPhone 
13/13 Pro. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max got the new A16 chip and, as 
Richard said, have the liDAR hardware.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

Good morning, everyone -

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.
I’m with AT
Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?
I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.
Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.
Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.
Jim

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Re: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Tai Tomasi]

I got the iPhone 14 Pro and I really like it. The battery life is a huge improvement over my 13 mini. I traded in through Apple and with a carrier deal got $800 off. I found the process of going through Apple using a carrier discount to be very easy.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Oct 8, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I have no thoughts on the 14 specifically, but the pro models have the LIDAR which is necessary if you want to take advantage of the door detection feature. I would check what Apple would give you in a trade-in and compare that with what you would get through your carrier. Note, the carriers often build the price of the phone into the plan, so check pricing carefully. I have the 13 pro and have no interest in the 14s.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim PortilloSent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro? Good morning, everyone - I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.I’m with ATDoes anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have either phone, how do you like them?I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this streak if I do upgrade.Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the necessary research.Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of the new iPhone 14.Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004801d8db2c%242eba87d0%248c2f9770%24%40gmail.com.



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RE: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

[Richard Turner]

I have no thoughts on the 14 specifically, but the pro models have the LIDAR 
which is necessary if you want to take advantage of the door detection feature.

 

I would check what Apple would give you in a trade-in and compare that with 
what you would get through your carrier.

 

Note, the carriers often build the price of the phone into the plan, so check 
pricing carefully.

 

I have the 13 pro and have no interest in the 14s.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Portillo
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any thoughts on the iPhone 14 or 14 Pro?

 

Good morning, everyone -

 

I’m seriously considering taking advantage of upgrading my phone. I have the 
iPhone 12, which is paid for, free and clear. However, there are a few issues 
I’m finding a bit disconcerting with the phone these days. Since I have the 
opportunity to at least look at upgrading, I might do that.

I’m with AT

Does anyone have thoughts on either the iPhone 14 or 14 pro? For those who have 
either phone, how do you like them?

I’ve never really had issues with any of my phones, and I hope to continue this 
streak if I do upgrade.

Also, I’m wondering what is better. Should I go through the Apple Store and get 
a trade-in, or should I go through my carrier? I’m still doing all of the 
necessary research.

Anyway, thanks for any info you could give me on advantages or disadvantages of 
the new iPhone 14.

Jim

 

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