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There is no need to reset anything, you just go to Settings > Face I d and Passcode, enter your passcode to get into the protected settings area and then swipe down until you find "Alternate appearance". Double tap on that and complete the setup. At the same time make sure you have turned all the things where you want Face Id to work, e.g. iPhone Unlock, iTunes and App Store, Wallet and Apple Pay etc. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: January 5, 2022 2:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Below the spot where you first put in your face ID there’s a place to put a secondary Face ID let me go right now and get the proper words for it. On my screen it says reset Face ID and then it says a secondary Face ID has been done and if you wish to add another Face ID you have to reset Face ID so if you didn’t put in an alternate Face ID then that’s where you would find it. Because I did, it’s telling me that it’s already been done. I hope this helps. Any further questions ask away and I’ll try to help. All I can tell you is that that adds that alternate ID ads an extra boost to Face ID and helps the phone to open. Also underneath the alternate ID is attention you want to turn that off. If that’s on you have to directly look at your phone, and for me as a totally blind person I cannot do that. As I said keep asking and keep trying it’s going to happen and you’ll feel pretty proud of yourself when it does. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Thanks much, Reggie. What do you mean by having Face ID @ two places? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the time. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see wh
RE: Face ID Revisited
Hi Fazzel, It's not really two places, But there is an option in the face id setup section of settings, That will allow you to setup an alternate or secondary face id option, For situation like you might share your phone with a wife or partner and they might want a face id on there also. I personally think you're fine with what you have So get use to what's working and with your pin code you should be fine, No need to have the other face id setup . Good luck. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:27 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Thanks much, Reggie. What do you mean by having Face ID @ two places? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the time. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone
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Hey Fazzel, Well done, And great work keeping up with it, And yeah this is a good group. Have a great day. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2022 3:29 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem
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Below the spot where you first put in your face ID there’s a place to put a secondary Face ID let me go right now and get the proper words for it. On my screen it says reset Face ID and then it says a secondary Face ID has been done and if you wish to add another Face ID you have to reset Face ID so if you didn’t put in an alternate Face ID then that’s where you would find it. Because I did, it’s telling me that it’s already been done. I hope this helps. Any further questions ask away and I’ll try to help. All I can tell you is that that adds that alternate ID ads an extra boost to Face ID and helps the phone to open. Also underneath the alternate ID is attention you want to turn that off. If that’s on you have to directly look at your phone, and for me as a totally blind person I cannot do that. As I said keep asking and keep trying it’s going to happen and you’ll feel pretty proud of yourself when it does. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Thanks much, Reggie. What do you mean by having Face ID @ two places? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the time. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone
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Thanks much, Reggie. What do you mean by having Face ID @ two places? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 6:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the time. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID
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When mine did not set up at Wal-Mart, I wasn't sure what was involved, but when I tried it, the phone told me which way to turn my head, kind of like it did about my fingerprint on older phones with buttons. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 1:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
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Fazil, I might suggest to you that you put in the other face ID. There are two places that you can set up Face ID apparently it’s for someone else that might be using your phone. However, I found that it works even better if I set it up with both Face ID places. Hope this helps. Both the face ID and the swipe up from the bottom are hard to get used to and hard to do at first especially if you’re totally blind, but they do work and Apple has greatly improved Face ID. When I had a iPhone X it worked probably 80% of the time or 90% of the time. Now unless I don’t pull it up to my face fast enough it works about 95 to 98% of the time. The biggest thing that I have had to get used to is that Face ID pops up more often on apps such as my banking app suddenly and I don’t have the position correctly. Now I try to keep it in position as much as I can if I know that there’s a chance that Face ID will come up. I had trouble with my SE 2020 and the fingerprint sensor I think it worked probably 60% of the time. This probably was because my fingers tend to be quite dry and at times cracked. However Face ID as I said now works with my iPhone 12 probably 95 to 98% of the time. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 5, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite
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Hi, Sieghard. Thanks much! On the Sunny afternoon on last Sunday, I sat by my living-room-window with the Sun behind me, and reset the Face ID there. Next time I raised the phone to the level of my forehead, kept it a foot or so away from it and pushed the Side-button, wala! The phone was unlocked with face ID! It worked eighty percent of the time now. I have also learned the required gesture. Thank you very much to all of you for being patient with me and for being so much helpful. I love this group. Thanks again! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 10:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone
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If he or she is willing they can at least walk you through it. When Face Id first was introduced, I think it was the iPhone X, I want to an Apple Store and while their demo device didn't allow me to fully set it up, it had a sort of simulation mode and I was able to get at least an idea and I certainly got a good idea about the home screen and app switcher gestures which the Apple rep I dealt with very patiently explained to me and let me practice them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 2, 2022 10:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Fazil, After your wake up your phone do the same as you would do when you want to go back to your home screen. You mentioned you have learned how to do that and how to bring up the app switcher, it's no different when you want to use Face Id. First, press the side button and then touch the screen near the bottom and when you hear the little tone swipe up until you feel a vibration, then look at the phone or hold the phone so it faces you while you do it and it will unlock right away. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 10:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Thanks much, Sieghard. Is swipe up same as flick up that we do when select a month or a day? Or is it like as we move icon to icon? Or, is this like dragging/rubbing my fingertip on the screen-surface starting from the bottom edge of the screen and drag it to the middle of it? I am very sorry for being vague. Thanks again. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 9:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Fazil, after you wake up your phone you first have to swipe up from the bottom of the screen. If I hold my iPhone in front of my face with the screen locked and then press the side button the lock screen comes up but nothing else happens. As soon as I touch near the bottom of the phone and swipe up about half way Face Id is activated and my phone unlocks instantly. As for Chris's concern, I also have my bank apps, credit card apps and so on installed on my phone, but they need separate verification and while you can set most of such apps to also use Face Id, you don't have to. If you were really concerned, why not at least allow the phone to be unlocked with Face Id, but set up your important apps to require you to enter your password? As for a thief holding the phone up to my face, first of all said thief has to get a hold of my phone which if it is a grab and run means he won't have time to unlock it by holding it up to my face. If you had Touch Id before, did you also not use it? After all, a thief could just force you to put your finger on the home button and for that matter, how much paid would you take before you give him your passcode? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting
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Well now, if it couldn't be set up in the store, why did he try? Go figure. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 1:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://gro
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The Genius-bar in the Apple Store tried to setup my Face ID for me but he could not do it either. He said that it can not be set up in the store. Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2022 6:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> .
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Plus, it's easy to stumble across how to disable VoiceOver with a web search. Almost any kind of generic web search on VoiceOver will bring up a bunch of hits on how to turn off VoiceOver. I'm assuming sighted people will accidentally turn it on and go looking on how to disable it. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Yes, that is what my cousin says, but most would not know. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited True, except that if the sighted person knows how to turn voice over off with the side button three clicks, or familiar with the ability of siri to turn voice over on or off, the screen curtain becomes useless. Even with the screen curtain on, the minute you turn voice over off, the screen immediately lights up. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted > person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because > of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > Cris, > > I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience > for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're > exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, > it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app > requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot > be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more > convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his > own. > > Alan Lemly > > > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fqtex0ldata=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1571107e8714803bdbe08d9cdfe696a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637767314851632570%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=EVUZkys27KX%2BNy%2BjL5vIonbHImScrHjbJjmz2ZvO7tA%3Dreserved=0> > for iOS > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris > Ali > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to > setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot > of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a > thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the > camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. > > > Sent from my iPad > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: > > > > > >Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? > > Thanks! > >From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > regina alvarado >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > > >Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back > too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you > have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 > inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I > still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to > practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It > takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It > will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did > with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! > >Reggie Alvarado > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > >Hi Group. > >I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > >I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use.
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The reason I did that was because the Wal-Mart guy, where I bought my phone, tried, and face ID never engaged. After I had my phone a few days, I decided to see what I could do, and the mission was a success. I don't know why he couldn't. It probably has something to do with me being totally blind, but, exactly why, I have no idea. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is
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That's what my cousin says. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I wouldn't count on that, any respecting iPhone thief would be very easily find out how to disable Voiceover and once Voiceover is turned off, screen curtain disappears into thin air. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Cris, I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphon
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Oh yes, right, Sieghard about swiping up for Home Screen. That just seemed so necessary, that I didn't think to mention it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, January 2, 2022 12:31 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Fazil, after you wake up your phone you first have to swipe up from the bottom of the screen. If I hold my iPhone in front of my face with the screen locked and then press the side button the lock screen comes up but nothing else happens. As soon as I touch near the bottom of the phone and swipe up about half way Face Id is activated and my phone unlocks instantly. As for Chris's concern, I also have my bank apps, credit card apps and so on installed on my phone, but they need separate verification and while you can set most of such apps to also use Face Id, you don't have to. If you were really concerned, why not at least allow the phone to be unlocked with Face Id, but set up your important apps to require you to enter your password? As for a thief holding the phone up to my face, first of all said thief has to get a hold of my phone which if it is a grab and run means he won't have time to unlock it by holding it up to my face. If you had Touch Id before, did you also not use it? After all, a thief could just force you to put your finger on the home button and for that matter, how much paid would you take before you give him your passcode? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
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Then, the best thing is to try holding your phone out about one foot from your face, and try to align the phone to sort of match the level of your face. It should work. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 10:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Yes, I have successfully completed the two-step-process of face ID training and Voiceover confirmed the successful completion of the training process. Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 6:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi Fassle, Just wondering if you have voiceover on when you are trying to setup face id? My phone the 13 pro max and the earlier 11 pro max let me know with voiceover when my face was out of alignment with the camera So if you listen to the voiceover prompts aas you setup face id It should let you kno what you have to do as you go through the process. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2022 7:42 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegr
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Oh yes, it will direct you to get facial ID in place. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi Fassle, Just wondering if you have voiceover on when you are trying to setup face id? My phone the 13 pro max and the earlier 11 pro max let me know with voiceover when my face was out of alignment with the camera So if you listen to the voiceover prompts aas you setup face id It should let you kno what you have to do as you go through the process. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2022 7:42 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
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Yes, that is what my cousin says, but most would not know. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited True, except that if the sighted person knows how to turn voice over off with the side button three clicks, or familiar with the ability of siri to turn voice over on or off, the screen curtain becomes useless. Even with the screen curtain on, the minute you turn voice over off, the screen immediately lights up. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted > person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because > of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > Cris, > > I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience > for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're > exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, > it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app > requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot > be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more > convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his > own. > > Alan Lemly > > > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris > Ali > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to > setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot > of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a > thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the > camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. > > > Sent from my iPad > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: > > > > > >Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? > > Thanks! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > regina alvarado >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > > >Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back > too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you > have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 > inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I > still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to > practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It > takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It > will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did > with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! > >Reggie Alvarado > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > >Hi Group. > >I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > >I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. > >I am unable to unlock phone with face id. > >Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. > >Thanks! > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > >The archives for this list can be se
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Thanks much, Sieghard. Is swipe up same as flick up that we do when select a month or a day? Or is it like as we move icon to icon? Or, is this like dragging/rubbing my fingertip on the screen-surface starting from the bottom edge of the screen and drag it to the middle of it? I am very sorry for being vague. Thanks again. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 9:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Fazil, after you wake up your phone you first have to swipe up from the bottom of the screen. If I hold my iPhone in front of my face with the screen locked and then press the side button the lock screen comes up but nothing else happens. As soon as I touch near the bottom of the phone and swipe up about half way Face Id is activated and my phone unlocks instantly. As for Chris's concern, I also have my bank apps, credit card apps and so on installed on my phone, but they need separate verification and while you can set most of such apps to also use Face Id, you don't have to. If you were really concerned, why not at least allow the phone to be unlocked with Face Id, but set up your important apps to require you to enter your password? As for a thief holding the phone up to my face, first of all said thief has to get a hold of my phone which if it is a grab and run means he won't have time to unlock it by holding it up to my face. If you had Touch Id before, did you also not use it? After all, a thief could just force you to put your finger on the home button and for that matter, how much paid would you take before you give him your passcode? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can
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There is no need for sunshine, just do it in normal indoor lighting and it's fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit htt
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Hi Fazil, You may want to go back and see your Hindi-speaking Apple employee and ask her to teach you the gestures to go to the home screen and bring up the app switcher. Once you learn them they will be second nature and you won't even think about it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 1:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Thanks much, Lynn. It, indeed, is a big consolation and great commiseration to know that you are not alone suffering this…….*smile). I find the keypad with relative ease. How do you go to homepage once the phone is unlocked? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this di
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Fazil, the camera sees a lot, just don't hold it too close to your face. I just did a few tests, if I held it really close like just the length of a finger away from my face, it didn't work,. I then moved it a bit further and it unlocked, it seems 6 or 8 inches is even enough, but then I also tried it holding it as far away as I could which means basically at arms length and it also worked so there definitely is quite a lot of wiggle room. Usually if you hold it about 30 cm away as Caroline suggested it should be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Thanks much Carolyn. Does face include the portion from the chin to the forehead including lips, nose, cheeks and earlobes,, right? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 12:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited You punch in your numbers you set for the passcode. I have a six number code; my husband just has four on his tablet. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, se
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And let's not forget that many iPhones may be stolen for parts, the fact is that if an iPhone has a passcode nobody will get into it, after all, even the government has a lot of problems to gert into a locked phone, but that doesn't mean they can't sell the screen and battery etc. to a repair shop or ship them off to Asia or some place where they are used to fix somebody's phone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Cris, I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20M
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I wouldn't count on that, any respecting iPhone thief would be very easily find out how to disable Voiceover and once Voiceover is turned off, screen curtain disappears into thin air. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: January 1, 2022 12:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Cris, I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> .
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Fazil, after you wake up your phone you first have to swipe up from the bottom of the screen. If I hold my iPhone in front of my face with the screen locked and then press the side button the lock screen comes up but nothing else happens. As soon as I touch near the bottom of the phone and swipe up about half way Face Id is activated and my phone unlocks instantly. As for Chris's concern, I also have my bank apps, credit card apps and so on installed on my phone, but they need separate verification and while you can set most of such apps to also use Face Id, you don't have to. If you were really concerned, why not at least allow the phone to be unlocked with Face Id, but set up your important apps to require you to enter your password? As for a thief holding the phone up to my face, first of all said thief has to get a hold of my phone which if it is a grab and run means he won't have time to unlock it by holding it up to my face. If you had Touch Id before, did you also not use it? After all, a thief could just force you to put your finger on the home button and for that matter, how much paid would you take before you give him your passcode? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: January 1, 2022 12:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MW
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Yes, I have successfully completed the two-step-process of face ID training and Voiceover confirmed the successful completion of the training process. Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 6:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi Fassle, Just wondering if you have voiceover on when you are trying to setup face id? My phone the 13 pro max and the earlier 11 pro max let me know with voiceover when my face was out of alignment with the camera So if you listen to the voiceover prompts aas you setup face id It should let you kno what you have to do as you go through the process. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2022 7:42 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all m
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Hi Fassle, Just wondering if you have voiceover on when you are trying to setup face id? My phone the 13 pro max and the earlier 11 pro max let me know with voiceover when my face was out of alignment with the camera So if you listen to the voiceover prompts aas you setup face id It should let you kno what you have to do as you go through the process. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Sunday, 2 January 2022 7:42 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http:/
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Yeah, that’s exactly what I thought! Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Jan 2022, at 22:10, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Right; it needs to see your face. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alex Stone > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:44 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > Carolyn, I read on a list the other day someone saying that it worked for > them with the phone facing at their chest, but I’ve always done it the way > you do. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 1 Jan 2022, at 20:40, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> >> The ear piece should be about to the level to the top or a little above the >> nose. The phone should be held out about a foot opposite your face at a >> level, where you entire face is in focus of the phone. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Fazil M. >> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:42 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited >> >> Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? >> >> Thanks! >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> regina alvarado >> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited >> >> >> >> Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back >> too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If >> you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 >> inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I >> still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to >> practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. >> It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. >> It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you >> did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to >> everyone! >> >> Reggie Alvarado >> >> >> On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. > <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Group. >> >> I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. >> >> I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped >> Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. >> >> I am unable to unlock phone with face id. >> >> Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu &l
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True, except that if the sighted person knows how to turn voice over off with the side button three clicks, or familiar with the ability of siri to turn voice over on or off, the screen curtain becomes useless. Even with the screen curtain on, the minute you turn voice over off, the screen immediately lights up. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2022, at 3:42 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted > person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because > of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alan Lemly > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > Cris, > > I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience > for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're > exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, > it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app > requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot > be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more > convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his > own. > > Alan Lemly > > > Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris > Ali > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to > setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot > of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a > thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the > camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. > > > Sent from my iPad > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: > > > > > >Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? > > Thanks! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > regina alvarado >Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > > >Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back > too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you > have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 > inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I > still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to > practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It > takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It > will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did > with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! > >Reggie Alvarado > > >On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > >Hi Group. > >I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > >I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. > >I am unable to unlock phone with face id. > >Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. > >Thanks! > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners > or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > >The archives for this list can be searched at: >http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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When phone is unlicked, swipe up from the bottom until you hear the first pop sound. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Thanks much, Lynn. It, indeed, is a big consolation and great commiseration to know that you are not alone suffering this…….*smile). I find the keypad with relative ease. How do you go to homepage once the phone is unlocked? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e
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I set mine up in bright, afternoon sunshine on the west side of the building one afternoon. Now, it doesn't matter if I am in light or dark, dark glasses or not, it works. It does have to align with the face though. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CCD3BFC1-7F33-4E1D-8F9F-0B1327169573%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CCD3BFC1-7F33-4E1D-8F9F-0B1327169573%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is im
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Right; it needs to see your face. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Carolyn, I read on a list the other day someone saying that it worked for them with the phone facing at their chest, but I’ve always done it the way you do. Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Jan 2022, at 20:40, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > The ear piece should be about to the level to the top or a little above the > nose. The phone should be held out about a foot opposite your face at a > level, where you entire face is in focus of the phone. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Fazil M. > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited > > Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? > > Thanks! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina > alvarado > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > > > Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too > far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you > have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 > inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I > still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to > practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It > takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It > will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did > with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! > > Reggie Alvarado > > > On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Group. > > I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > > I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. > > I am unable to unlock phone with face id. > > Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > T
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Thanks much, Lynn. It, indeed, is a big consolation and great commiseration to know that you are not alone suffering this…….*smile). I find the keypad with relative ease. How do you go to homepage once the phone is unlocked? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lynn Schneider Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 1:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CCD3BFC1-7F33-4E1D-8F9F-0B1327169573%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CCD3BFC1-7F33-4E1D-8F9F-0B1327169573%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have
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Fazil, if it is any consolation, I am having the same struggle with face ID. I have mastered the gestures to get to things without the home button, but face ID continues to bedevil me. Interestingly, sometimes it will work with no problem and I have no idea why, but mostly, I cannot unlock my phone using my face. I have attention turned off and like you, I have successfully gone through the training exercise multiple times, with and without sighted help, which ends with a message that face ID was successfully set up, but for reasons I can’t understand, mostly it does not work. I have only had the phone for 3 days and I know that other blind people out there with prosthetic eyes are doing face ID successfully, so I refuse to give up, but I admit it is quite frustrating since I love everything else about my 13 Pro. I have even reset the face ID several times in different light and dark situations, with and without sighted help, and even set up an alternate face, but still no joy. Also, it is very hard to get the keypad to come up to enter the passcode. You will have to learn the new gestures for getting to the home screen, control center, app switcher, etc., but I did not find that very difficult after practice. I know that I have to embrace change and except new things, and again, I like this bigger phone and I love the battery life compared to my iPhone 8, so I don’t want to go back to that phone again, but I hate using a passcode to authenticate, so I am really hoping that I can get this worked out. I wish us both patience and good luck. LOL. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: > > > Hi Group. > I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. > I am unable to unlock phone with face id. > Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. > Thanks! > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CCD3BFC1-7F33-4E1D-8F9F-0B1327169573%40gmail.com.
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Thanks much Carolyn. Does face include the portion from the chin to the forehead including lips, nose, cheeks and earlobes,, right? Thanks! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 12:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited You punch in your numbers you set for the passcode. I have a six number code; my husband just has four on his tablet. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact th
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Carolyn, I read on a list the other day someone saying that it worked for them with the phone facing at their chest, but I’ve always done it the way you do. Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Jan 2022, at 20:40, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > The ear piece should be about to the level to the top or a little above the > nose. The phone should be held out about a foot opposite your face at a > level, where you entire face is in focus of the phone. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Fazil M. > Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:42 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited > > Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? > > Thanks! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina > alvarado > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited > > > > Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too > far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you > have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 > inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I > still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to > practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It > takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It > will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did > with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! > > Reggie Alvarado > > > On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Group. > > I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. > > I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped > Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. > > I am unable to unlock phone with face id. > > Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=ema
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You punch in your numbers you set for the passcode. I have a six number code; my husband just has four on his tablet. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
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My husband, who is pretty good with tech stuff, says that if a sighted person tried to steel my phone, it would be pitched into the garbage, because of VoiceOver and, when I have it engaged, Screen Curtain. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 3:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Cris, I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list
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The ear piece should be about to the level to the top or a little above the nose. The phone should be held out about a foot opposite your face at a level, where you entire face is in focus of the phone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil M. Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Face ID Revisited Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
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Hi, Cris. How do you unlock the phone with the passcode? I, for instance, ask Siri to launch Messages for me and she wants me unlock the phone first with the number pad on the screen. I type the passcode and Messages app opens. But I can not go to homepage from there. Again I have to ask Siri to open certain apps for me but, since the phone is unlocked now, she does not ask for the passcode. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 11:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> .
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Cris, I guess I see your point but you seem to be sacrificing a lot of convenience for the supposed risk. Only you can assess the reel risk to which you're exposed but unless your thief also gets your passcode or takes your face too, it seems unlikely they'll gain access to all your stuff. Each financial app requires face ID to access it and without your passcode, the face ID cannot be reset. And I would think face ID with attention turned on would be more convenient than entering a four or six digit PIN every time. But to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Cris Ali Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:54:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11
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I used face id for less than one month, then I decided to switch back to setting a code because I believe it is much safer. I use my phone for a lot of financial transactions, including banking, shopping, stocks etc… If a thief got hold of my iPhone, all of what he needs to do is to direct the camera at my face, after that he will have full access to my life. Sent from my iPad On Jan 1, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@go
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Should the earpiece in front of my upper lip or my nose or somewhere else? Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2022 10:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Face ID Revisited Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216CDA1FB92164A5D6741FEC9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com.
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Fázil, just keep trying my friend. I think you either have it tipped back too far or you’re not putting it at the right distance from your face. If you have attention turned off it’s just a matter of putting it just about 10 inches from your face. I had a terrible time at the beginning. Sometimes I still have trouble, but it really does work. It’s just that you have to practice it. It’s just like those little blimps on the bottom and the top. It takes time to get used to doing it. It takes practice to do it properly. It will come, and then you’ll feel just as comfortable with Face ID as you did with the home button. Hang in there. happy new year to you and to everyone! Reggie Alvarado On Jan 1, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Fazil M. wrote: Hi Group. I am having problem with using Face ID to unlock my iPhone12. I successfully complete two steps of setting up face ID and double tapped Done Button and iPhone says face ID is ready to use. Attention is off too. I am unable to unlock phone with face id. Any more tips to unlock phone with face id is much appreciated. Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR20MB1216251986B9C8485A0B9301C9479%40MWHPR20MB1216.namprd20.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/ED9BB85C-7B65-48B2-A11F-6605843C2013%40gmail.com.