RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Quite informative and a good explanation of the various old and new 
services/apps.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Here is an article that may clear up some confusion.
For Immediate Release GoodMaps Continues to Provide Enhanced Wayfinding thru 
Partnerships with Intel, Mapping UK Stations and Stores LOUISVILLE, Ky. 
(February 21, 2022) – GoodMaps, born out of American Printing House for the 
Blind (APH), continues to create innovative wayfinding experiences for the 
visually impaired. With a recently announced partnership with Intel, expansion 
of wayfinding through UK train stations and grocery stores, an acquisition of 
Sendero GPS, the beginning of APH GoodMaps Education and the start of the 2022 
Smart Cities project with APH. As part of the Intel RISE Technology Initiative 
(IRTI), GoodMaps is collaborating with Intel to deliver a high-quality indoor 
wayfinding solution for all, with special emphasis on improving indoor 
navigation for people including those who are blind or low vision, mobility 
impaired, and deaf or hard of hearing. With GoodMaps technology people can 
safely, effectively and easily navigate indoor spaces resulting in greater 
independence when traveling. In the United Kingdom, GoodMaps has revolutionized 
the way passengers' access, utilize, and travel throughout railway stations, 
due to the partnership with Transpennine Express. Any passenger traveling 
through TPE stations will now be able to navigate with turn-by-turn directions 
throughout their stations using the GoodMaps Explore app, available on both iOS 
and Android free of charge. GoodMaps Explore can navigate travelers from the 
station entrance, through ticket barriers, and onto their train, with 
confidence and ease. By providing an inclusive navigation solution to the TPE 
transportation community, GoodMaps technology increases the adoption of public 
transport with a new enhanced wayfinding experience. GoodMaps recently acquired 
the Sendero GPS mobile app from Aira and released the subscription apps, Seeing 
Eye GPS, RNIB Navigator and Guide Dogs NSW under the name GoodMaps Outdoors for 
free. These state-of-the-art digital maps are then made available in the 
GoodMaps Explore app, which provides audio instructions to communicate routing 
and critical spatial 1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206 information as 
users move throughout a space, whether indoors or outdoors. The app can be 
downloaded for free in the Apple App Store or Android Marketplace. GoodMaps 
requires no infrastructure or beacons in a building. Others require dozens of 
beacons, which are costly and require maintenance. By utilizing LiDAR and image 
recognition, GoodMaps provide fast and accurate maps of indoor spaces at a 
fraction of the effort and costs. About American Printing House for the Blind’s 
GoodMaps Explore GoodMaps Explore is an accessible navigation application. It 
helps everyone, visually impaired or not, navigate indoors and outdoors safely 
and efficiently. To make that happen, GoodMaps is on a mission to map the great 
indoors by streamlining that process. We can accurately map a building in the 
time it takes to walk through it. All of these maps are available to Explore 
app users. Another revolutionary aspect of GoodMaps Explore is the superior 
positioning accuracy provided by camera-based positioning (CPS). CPS is not 
limited to indoor positioning and has the potential to bring this accuracy 
level outdoors. For more information, please go to 
www.GoodMaps.com<http://www.GoodMaps.com>.

Article at: 
https://www.aph.org/app/uploads/2022/05/Feb.-2022-Release-Only-GoodMaps-Update-FINAL-2-21-22.pdf



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Sorry, forgot to make the "GoodMaps 
Outdoors<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodmaps-outdoors/id945756779>" title 
into a link in my previous message.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Can you provide a link because I think you are mixing up a number of old and 
new apps.
There used to be an app called Nearby Explorer from American Printing House and 
the nof course there was the Seeing Eye GPS app which still seems to be 
lingering in the app store. I did, however, not find anything any more when

RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Richard Turner 
Here is an article that may clear up some confusion.

For Immediate Release GoodMaps Continues to Provide Enhanced Wayfinding thru 
Partnerships with Intel, Mapping UK Stations and Stores LOUISVILLE, Ky. 
(February 21, 2022) – GoodMaps, born out of American Printing House for the 
Blind (APH), continues to create innovative wayfinding experiences for the 
visually impaired. With a recently announced partnership with Intel, expansion 
of wayfinding through UK train stations and grocery stores, an acquisition of 
Sendero GPS, the beginning of APH GoodMaps Education and the start of the 2022 
Smart Cities project with APH. As part of the Intel RISE Technology Initiative 
(IRTI), GoodMaps is collaborating with Intel to deliver a high-quality indoor 
wayfinding solution for all, with special emphasis on improving indoor 
navigation for people including those who are blind or low vision, mobility 
impaired, and deaf or hard of hearing. With GoodMaps technology people can 
safely, effectively and easily navigate indoor spaces resulting in greater 
independence when traveling. In the United Kingdom, GoodMaps has revolutionized 
the way passengers' access, utilize, and travel throughout railway stations, 
due to the partnership with Transpennine Express. Any passenger traveling 
through TPE stations will now be able to navigate with turn-by-turn directions 
throughout their stations using the GoodMaps Explore app, available on both iOS 
and Android free of charge. GoodMaps Explore can navigate travelers from the 
station entrance, through ticket barriers, and onto their train, with 
confidence and ease. By providing an inclusive navigation solution to the TPE 
transportation community, GoodMaps technology increases the adoption of public 
transport with a new enhanced wayfinding experience. GoodMaps recently acquired 
the Sendero GPS mobile app from Aira and released the subscription apps, Seeing 
Eye GPS, RNIB Navigator and Guide Dogs NSW under the name GoodMaps Outdoors for 
free. These state-of-the-art digital maps are then made available in the 
GoodMaps Explore app, which provides audio instructions to communicate routing 
and critical spatial 1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206 information as 
users move throughout a space, whether indoors or outdoors. The app can be 
downloaded for free in the Apple App Store or Android Marketplace. GoodMaps 
requires no infrastructure or beacons in a building. Others require dozens of 
beacons, which are costly and require maintenance. By utilizing LiDAR and image 
recognition, GoodMaps provide fast and accurate maps of indoor spaces at a 
fraction of the effort and costs. About American Printing House for the Blind’s 
GoodMaps Explore GoodMaps Explore is an accessible navigation application. It 
helps everyone, visually impaired or not, navigate indoors and outdoors safely 
and efficiently. To make that happen, GoodMaps is on a mission to map the great 
indoors by streamlining that process. We can accurately map a building in the 
time it takes to walk through it. All of these maps are available to Explore 
app users. Another revolutionary aspect of GoodMaps Explore is the superior 
positioning accuracy provided by camera-based positioning (CPS). CPS is not 
limited to indoor positioning and has the potential to bring this accuracy 
level outdoors. For more information, please go to www.GoodMaps.com 
<http://www.GoodMaps.com> .

 

Article at: 
https://www.aph.org/app/uploads/2022/05/Feb.-2022-Release-Only-GoodMaps-Update-FINAL-2-21-22.pdf

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Sorry, forgot to make the "GoodMaps Outdoors 
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodmaps-outdoors/id945756779> " title into a 
link in my previous message.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Can you provide a link because I think you are mixing up a number of old and 
new apps.

There used to be an app called Nearby Explorer from American Printing House and 
the nof course there was the Seeing Eye GPS app which still seems to be 
lingering in the app store. I did, however, not find anything any more when I 
searched for Nearby Explorer.

 

To my knowledge there are now just the two apps from GoodMaps Inc.,:

 

GoodMaps Outdoors

This is what the Seeing Eye GPS used to be, very similar app lay

RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Sorry, forgot to make the "GoodMaps 
Outdoors<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodmaps-outdoors/id945756779>" title 
into a link in my previous message.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Can you provide a link because I think you are mixing up a number of old and 
new apps.
There used to be an app called Nearby Explorer from American Printing House and 
the nof course there was the Seeing Eye GPS app which still seems to be 
lingering in the app store. I did, however, not find anything any more when I 
searched for Nearby Explorer.

To my knowledge there are now just the two apps from GoodMaps Inc.,:

GoodMaps Outdoors
This is what the Seeing Eye GPS used to be, very similar app layout, the 
description is as follows:
GoodMaps Outdoors is a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS app for iPhone. It has 
all the outdoor navigation features you expect plus unique offerings you cannot 
get anywhere else, including extra verbosity for blind users.
• Four main tabs are easy to access at the bottom of the screen: Routes, 
Location (Default), POIs and Settings.
• A unique GoodMaps Outdoors feature: Record a route using breadcrumbs, called 
Waypoints. No other accessible app has this. You can add these waypoints with 
the add button or you can shake the phone to create a Waypoint. It also 
automatically records a point after you have gone a certain distance. These 
Waypoint routes can be saved for future use.
• The Lookaround Wand in the top right tells you what is around.
• The More Info button gives the altitude and speed.
• Create your own POIs and share your POIs with others or keep them private 
with a shortcut on the Location page or from the POIs page.
• POI categories are announced with search results and make finding your 
destination easier.
• Audio tones and vibrations give feedback throughout the app, letting you know 
about upcoming turns, critical intersection information, and when search is 
loading.
• A robust route menu includes multiple methods of choosing a destination, from 
starting with a POI, an address from your contact list, your route history, and 
many more!
• Settings include many customization options like: vibrations, vision 
contrast, color settings, and distance units.
• There are announcement options like right, left, clockface or both.

GoodMaps Explore<https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/goodmaps-explore/id1524698552>
This seems to be focusing more on indoor navigation in what are referred to as 
"mapped locations", the first part of the description is as follows:
Discover the world with GoodMaps Explore.
Accurate indoor* and outdoor† information and navigation for people who are 
blind or visually impaired.
The "* and †" notations are explained further down as follows:
*† where available

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 2:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

the renewed Seeing eye gps is called explore. I'm going to see how close it 
gets to plotting routes compared to the original.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long<mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi Robert,

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com<mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hellow Everyone,

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to heal

RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Can you provide a link because I think you are mixing up a number of old and 
new apps.
There used to be an app called Nearby Explorer from American Printing House and 
the nof course there was the Seeing Eye GPS app which still seems to be 
lingering in the app store. I did, however, not find anything any more when I 
searched for Nearby Explorer.

To my knowledge there are now just the two apps from GoodMaps Inc.,:

GoodMaps Outdoors
This is what the Seeing Eye GPS used to be, very similar app layout, the 
description is as follows:
GoodMaps Outdoors is a fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS app for iPhone. It has 
all the outdoor navigation features you expect plus unique offerings you cannot 
get anywhere else, including extra verbosity for blind users.
• Four main tabs are easy to access at the bottom of the screen: Routes, 
Location (Default), POIs and Settings.
• A unique GoodMaps Outdoors feature: Record a route using breadcrumbs, called 
Waypoints. No other accessible app has this. You can add these waypoints with 
the add button or you can shake the phone to create a Waypoint. It also 
automatically records a point after you have gone a certain distance. These 
Waypoint routes can be saved for future use.
• The Lookaround Wand in the top right tells you what is around.
• The More Info button gives the altitude and speed.
• Create your own POIs and share your POIs with others or keep them private 
with a shortcut on the Location page or from the POIs page.
• POI categories are announced with search results and make finding your 
destination easier.
• Audio tones and vibrations give feedback throughout the app, letting you know 
about upcoming turns, critical intersection information, and when search is 
loading.
• A robust route menu includes multiple methods of choosing a destination, from 
starting with a POI, an address from your contact list, your route history, and 
many more!
• Settings include many customization options like: vibrations, vision 
contrast, color settings, and distance units.
• There are announcement options like right, left, clockface or both.

GoodMaps Explore<https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/goodmaps-explore/id1524698552>
This seems to be focusing more on indoor navigation in what are referred to as 
"mapped locations", the first part of the description is as follows:
Discover the world with GoodMaps Explore.
Accurate indoor* and outdoor† information and navigation for people who are 
blind or visually impaired.
The "* and †" notations are explained further down as follows:
*† where available

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 2:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

the renewed Seeing eye gps is called explore. I'm going to see how close it 
gets to plotting routes compared to the original.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long<mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi Robert,

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com<mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hellow Everyone,

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.

Thank you in advance,

Lynda
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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Andy Baracco 
If all you need is simple outdoor navigation without all the bells and 
whistles, lazarillo will serve you well. It's my GPS app of choice most of the 
time.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Louise Peyton 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 7:26 AM
  Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names


  Hi,:

  How effective is lazarillo for outdoor navigation?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Michael McKay
  Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:55 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

   

  Hi! Folks:

   

  Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope this 
helps!

   

  Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.

  Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already 
pointed out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and 
really don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says 
this:

Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago

Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
"GoodMaps Inc.".

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they 
aren’t the same thing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hi Robert,

 

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when 
you can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for 
free. Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

  On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:

   

  Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its 
name I'm still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but 
there is no auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message 
- 

From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM

Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hellow Everyone, 

 

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested 
in a gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health 
issues, I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my 
phone paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided 
information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs. 

 

Thank you in advance, 

 

Lynda 

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RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Louise Peyton 
Hi,:
How effective is lazarillo for outdoor navigation?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi! Folks:

Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope this 
helps!

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com<mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com>

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
"GoodMaps Inc.".

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi Robert,

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com<mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hellow Everyone,

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.

Thank you in advance,

Lynda
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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Lyne 
If you live in Canada yes. You can use BlindSquare Event full version for free 

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2023 à 02:17, Dennis Long  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Doesn’t blind square have a $40 charge?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hi! Folks:
>  
> Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
> walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope 
> this helps!
>  
> Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
> out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
> don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
> Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
> Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
> "GoodMaps Inc.".
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they 
> aren’t the same thing.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hi Robert,
>  
> I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
> can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
> Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name 
> I'm still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there 
> is no auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
> From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
> Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hellow Everyone,
>  
> I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a 
> gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, 
> I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone 
> paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided 
> information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.
>  
> Thank you in advance,
>  
> Lynda
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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Lyne 
If you stay in Canada you can use BlindSquare Event for free and you will get 
the complete version by CNIB.

Lyne

> Le 25 mars 2023 à 02:19, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
> 
> 
> It is definitely not free, the price for Blindsquare in the US is $39.99 and 
> in Canada it is $54.99..
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hi! Folks:
>  
> Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
> walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope 
> this helps!
>  
> Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
> out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
> don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
> Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
> Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
> "GoodMaps Inc.".
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they 
> aren’t the same thing.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hi Robert,
>  
> I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
> can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
> Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name 
> I'm still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there 
> is no auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
> From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
> Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names
>  
> Hellow Everyone,
>  
> I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a 
> gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, 
> I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone 
> paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided 
> information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.
>  
> Thank you in advance,
>  
> Lynda
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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Robert Doc Wright 
the renewed Seeing eye gps is called explore. I'm going to see how close it 
gets to plotting routes compared to the original. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Long 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:49 PM
  Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names


  Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they 
aren’t the same thing.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

   

  Hi Robert,

   

  I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

 

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name 
I'm still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is 
no auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message - 

  From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM

  Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

   

  Hellow Everyone, 

   

  I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in 
a gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, 
I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs. 

   

  Thank you in advance, 

   

  Lynda 

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RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
It is definitely not free, the price for Blindsquare in the US is $39.99 and in 
Canada it is $54.99..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi! Folks:

Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope this 
helps!

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
"GoodMaps Inc.".

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hi Robert,

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com<mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM
Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hellow Everyone,

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.

Thank you in advance,

Lynda
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RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-25 Thread Dennis Long 
Doesn’t blind square have a $40 charge?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
McKay
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hi! Folks:

 

Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope this 
helps!

 

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.

Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com <mailto:mgmckay1...@gmail.com> 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:

Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago

Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
"GoodMaps Inc.".

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hi Robert,

 

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message - 

From: lynda.ingra...@gmail.com <mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 11:03 AM

Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hellow Everyone, 

 

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs. 

 

Thank you in advance, 

 

Lynda 

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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-24 Thread Michael McKay 
Hi! Folks:

Blind Square is great with names, and street signs, especially if you use 
walking trails. Download Blind Square from the App Store, it is free. Hope this 
helps!

Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2023, at 01:20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
> out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
> don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
> Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
> Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
> "GoodMaps Inc.".
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
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>  
> Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they 
> aren’t the same thing.
>  
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> Hi Robert,
>  
> I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
> can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
> Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name 
> I'm still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there 
> is no auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
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> Hellow Everyone,
>  
> I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a 
> gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, 
> I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone 
> paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided 
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>  
> Thank you in advance,
>  
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RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
The Seeing Eye app was replaced with Good Maps Outdoor as was already pointed 
out. I accidently came across it in the App Store the other day and really 
don't know why it's still there because under "version history" it says this:
Version 3.7.4, 3 years ago
Also, they are made by the same developer, both apps list the developer as 
"GoodMaps Inc.".

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julian
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Hi Robert,

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

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Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
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auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message -
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Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

Hellow Everyone,

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.

Thank you in advance,

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RE: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-24 Thread Dennis Long 
Joseph first seeing eye and Good maps are made by two companies so they aren’t 
the same thing.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
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Hi Robert,

 

I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you 
can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. 
Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.

 

Sent from my iPhone





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still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message - 

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Subject: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

 

Hellow Everyone, 

 

I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS 
app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information 
regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs. 

 

Thank you in advance, 

 

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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-23 Thread Julian 
Hi Robert,I'm not sure why you would continue to pay for using Seeing Eye GPS when you can download and use the new version of it called GoodMaps Outdoors for free. Does the old one offer something that Good Maps does not? Just curious.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 23, 2023, at 6:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have 
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you use it when you wish to.- Original Message - 

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  Street Names
  
  
  Hellow Everyone, 
   
  I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am 
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  health issues, I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have 
  my phone paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app 
  provided information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop 
  signs. 
   
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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-23 Thread Robert Doc Wright 
Lazarillo and Seeing Eye Gps. Though they have supposedly changed its name I'm 
still using it under its original name. It costs $5.99 a month but there is no 
auto-renew. So you use it when you wish to.- Original Message - 
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  Hellow Everyone, 

   

  I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a 
gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I 
have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired 
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regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs. 

   

  Thank you in advance, 

   

  Lynda 


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Re: GPS Apps That Will Announce Street Names

2023-03-22 Thread Richard Turner 
I would try GoodMaps Outdoors. It is free and has very good intersection descriptions. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 22, 2023, at 10:06 AM, lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote:Hellow Everyone,  I am beginning home training Monday with my new guide. I am interested in a gPS app that will just read the street names as I walk. Due to health issues, I have forgotten street names, but still know the route. I have my phone paired with my hearing aids. It would be really great if the app provided information regarding whether an intersection has lights or stop signs.  Thank you in advance,  Lynda 



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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-06-16 Thread Curtis Delzer 
we took this on our cruise to Alaska, and it consistently tole me how 
far from home, and other neat information.


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On 5/8/2020 12:13 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:

I have an old one here called Ariadne GPS  which allows you to set Poi's and 
then it gives you distance and compass bearing - clock
face directions to the chosen poi.
Still seems quite reliable,  don't know why I didn't use it more or lately 
since I walk water courses as much as public highways.
Think it good for on-water as well as off-road.  Sailing/canoeing is popular 
too.

RobH.

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Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron



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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-11 Thread Simon A Fogarty 
I don’t know about walking tracks  in your country

But I wouldn’t rely on gps apps for walking tracks here in n new Zealand,

If you don’t turn in the right place it’s a sudden stop at the bottom of a 1000 
foot drop,
Or the track that was there yesterday,
Is missing  some critical section tomorrow.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

Kelly is right, it would be better for the friend to join the list; but beyond 
that, one of the first things you are presented with when you first use any GPS 
app, is the warning to not rely solely on a GPS device.
Anyone who does so, is asking to get lost or worse.
Perhaps a call to Aira, since they could look at a map of their location and 
get an idea what's around.
The bottom line is GPS accuracy can range from 30 feet to several hundred feet 
depending on the location, weather, and quality of the receiver.
That and the travel skills of the person using it.

Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

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On 5/9/20, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hello, I have a question on GPS Apps.  Using Blind square, or any of the
Apps, I noticed that sometimes the direction will say, 100 feet to your
right or left or whatever it is.  Sometimes the left or right is correct
but, is there a way to know for sure if it is left or right?  If you are
solo, no one is around, it could be a problem to go in the wrong
direction.I know that is obcious but,  just asking for a friend.  Thank
you Andy and Shubert

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Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by turn
directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking in areas
off trail?

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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Eric Caron 
I’m looking for something that would be useful on say a 100 or 200 mile hike in 
the woods, say At trail.  Either something GPS locations can be added to or if 
possible even have it follow us on a map to indicate if we are on the trail. 

I’m new at this so not sure what is the most helpful.

Eric 


> On May 9, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> For non-established trails, are you looking for bread crumb navigation?
> 
> Prominent survival bloggers have evaluated iPhones and $500 Garman
> navigation devices in places without cell signals and found both offer
> the same level of accuracy. Realize though, calling the iPhone’s
> navigation capability GPS is inaccurate.  While it does use the Geo
> positioning System from the United States Government, the iPhone also
> uses the Global Navigation Satellite System or GLONAS from the Russian
> government, cell towers, Wi-Fi locations, and starting with the 2017
> iPhones, Galileo, the European satellite navigation system.
> 
> Kelly
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>> I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established
>> ones.  And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with
>> looking into that.
>> 
>> Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to
>> share.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
>>> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
>>> in areas off trail?
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
 Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
 trail..
 
 
> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
> 
> 
> Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
> 
>‚Best, Gradimir
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
> 
> 
> Hi foks,
> 
> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but
> as
> I’m
> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
> 
> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Kelly Pierce 
For non-established trails, are you looking for bread crumb navigation?

Prominent survival bloggers have evaluated iPhones and $500 Garman
navigation devices in places without cell signals and found both offer
the same level of accuracy. Realize though, calling the iPhone’s
navigation capability GPS is inaccurate.  While it does use the Geo
positioning System from the United States Government, the iPhone also
uses the Global Navigation Satellite System or GLONAS from the Russian
government, cell towers, Wi-Fi locations, and starting with the 2017
iPhones, Galileo, the European satellite navigation system.

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> I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established
> ones.  And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with
> looking into that.
>
> Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to
> share.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>
>> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
>> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
>> in areas off trail?
>>
>> Kelly
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>> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
>>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>>> trail..
>>>
>>>
 On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:


  Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
 http://www.loadstone-gps.com

 ‚Best, Gradimir



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 Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?


 Hi foks,

 Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Eric Caron 
I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established ones. 
 And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with looking 
into that.

Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to 
share.

Eric 



> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
> in areas off trail?
> 
> Kelly
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>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
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>> trail..
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>> 
>>> ‚Best, Gradimir
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as
>>> I’m
>>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Richard Turner 
Kelly is right, it would be better for the friend to join the list; but beyond 
that, one of the first things you are presented with when you first use any GPS 
app, is the warning to not rely solely on a GPS device.
Anyone who does so, is asking to get lost or worse.
Perhaps a call to Aira, since they could look at a map of their location and 
get an idea what's around.
The bottom line is GPS accuracy can range from 30 feet to several hundred feet 
depending on the location, weather, and quality of the receiver.
That and the travel skills of the person using it.


Richard
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just stops you from enjoying the good."

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On May 9, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

Please ask your friend to join this list.  Then he can interact with
us and present his issue directly. Often, a third party’s question or
concern is either not fully understood or articulated.

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On 5/9/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
Hello, I have a question on GPS Apps.  Using Blind square, or any of the
Apps, I noticed that sometimes the direction will say, 100 feet to your
right or left or whatever it is.  Sometimes the left or right is correct
but, is there a way to know for sure if it is left or right?  If you are
solo, no one is around, it could be a problem to go in the wrong
direction.I know that is obcious but,  just asking for a friend.  Thank
you Andy and Shubert

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Subject: Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by turn
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off trail?

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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Kelly Pierce 
Please ask your friend to join this list.  Then he can interact with
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On 5/9/20, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
> Hello, I have a question on GPS Apps.  Using Blind square, or any of the
> Apps, I noticed that sometimes the direction will say, 100 feet to your
> right or left or whatever it is.  Sometimes the left or right is correct
> but, is there a way to know for sure if it is left or right?  If you are
> solo, no one is around, it could be a problem to go in the wrong
> direction.I know that is obcious but,  just asking for a friend.  Thank
> you Andy and Shubert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps for hiking?
>
> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by turn
> directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking in areas
> off trail?
>
> Kelly
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>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an
>> old
>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>> trail..
>>
>>
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>>
>>>   ‚Best, Gradimir
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi foks,
>>>
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but
>>> as I’m doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>>
>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Eric Caron
>>>
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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe 
Hello, I have a question on GPS Apps.  Using Blind square, or any of the Apps, 
I noticed that sometimes the direction will say, 100 feet to your right or left 
or whatever it is.  Sometimes the left or right is correct but, is there a way 
to know for sure if it is left or right?  If you are solo, no one is around, it 
could be a problem to go in the wrong direction.I know that is obcious but, 
 just asking for a friend.  Thank you Andy and Shubert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by turn 
directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking in areas off 
trail?

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> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an 
> old
> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian 
> trail..
>
>
>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>
>>
>>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>
>>   ‚Best, Gradimir
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>
>>
>> Hi foks,
>>
>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but 
>> as I’m doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>
>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Eric Caron
>>
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Kelly Pierce 
Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
in areas off trail?

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On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
> trail..
>
>
>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>
>>
>>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>
>>   ‚Best, Gradimir
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>
>>
>> Hi foks,
>>
>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as
>> I’m
>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>
>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Eric Caron
>>
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread Eric Caron 
Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old 2010 
book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian trail..


> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
> 
> 
>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
> 
>   ‚Best, Gradimir
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
> 
> 
> Hi foks,
> 
> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
> 
> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Eric Caron
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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread annakb 
I can't figure out how to make it talk.  Loadstone tells me it has found GPS, 
then goes silent.  There must be something I need to set, but I can't find it 
in the manual.


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Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
http://www.loadstone-gps.com

   ‚Best, Gradimir



From: "Eric Caron" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?


Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron

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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread Ibraheem Fakir 
Soundscape is great. 

Mistakes sent from my iPhone

> On May 8, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
> 
> 
>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
> 
>   ‚Best, Gradimir
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
> 
> 
> Hi foks,
> 
> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
> 
> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread Gradimir Kragić 


Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
http://www.loadstone-gps.com

   ‚Best, Gradimir



From: "Eric Caron" 
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Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?


Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron

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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
I have an old one here called Ariadne GPS  which allows you to set Poi's and 
then it gives you distance and compass bearing - clock 
face directions to the chosen poi.
Still seems quite reliable,  don't know why I didn't use it more or lately 
since I walk water courses as much as public highways.
Think it good for on-water as well as off-road.  Sailing/canoeing is popular 
too.

RobH.

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Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread Eric Caron 
Thanks folks, 

Keep the suggestions coming. 

I’ll try the near by explorer.  I had the app but never played with it.  I have 
good coverage so I’ll see if the paid version is worth it if it actually is 
useful when hiking. 

I’ve got a lot to learn to see if it is helpful.

If other apps might be more useful send the tips my way. 

Eric Caron 


> On May 7, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I think you will find the full program is still $79.99 on the App store.
> However, the free version has had some upgrades recently.
> 
> But, you will need GPS coverage and Data coverage since the free version 
> doesn't download the maps.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you,MissKitty Referrin'To  APH's NearByExplorer or APH's 
>> NearByExplorerOnline?
>> I  know APH's NearByExplorerOnline is Free  on Both Apple's iOS as well as 
>> Google'sAndroid
>> But
>> I didn't know that APH's NearByExplorer was Also Free, is that  "what" you 
>> are sayin'?
>> At 05:49 PM 5/7/2020, you wrote:
>>> Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either 
>>> apple or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a 
>>> fair amount of info.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Eric Caron
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 6:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as 
>>> I’m doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>>What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread Richard Turner 
I think you will find the full program is still $79.99 on the App store.
However, the free version has had some upgrades recently.

But, you will need GPS coverage and Data coverage since the free version 
doesn't download the maps.


Richard
Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
just stops you from enjoying the good."

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 7, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Robin  wrote:

Are you,MissKitty Referrin'To  APH's NearByExplorer or APH's 
NearByExplorerOnline?
I  know APH's NearByExplorerOnline is Free  on Both Apple's iOS as well as 
Google'sAndroid
But
I didn't know that APH's NearByExplorer was Also Free, is that  "what" you are 
sayin'?
At 05:49 PM 5/7/2020, you wrote:
Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either apple 
or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a fair amount 
of info.

-Original Message-
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Eric Caron
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?

Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

   What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron

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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread Robin 
Are you,MissKitty Referrin'To  APH's 
NearByExplorer or APH's NearByExplorerOnline?
I  know APH's NearByExplorerOnline is Free  on 
Both Apple's iOS as well as Google'sAndroid

But
I didn't know that APH's NearByExplorer was Also 
Free, is that  "what" you are sayin'?

At 05:49 PM 5/7/2020, you wrote:
Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now 
download it free from either apple or google 
play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a fair amount of info.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Caron

Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?

Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have 
apps for on the road but as I’m doing more off 
road hiking they are not helpful.


What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron

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RE: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread kitty hevener 
Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either apple 
or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a fair amount 
of info.  

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Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?

Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread Marie 

I use Apple maps and have no problems.
Marie


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Subject: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction 
with BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything 
else I should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over 
my budget.

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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Turner 
No, I'm spoiled.  My wife drives me where I need to go beyond my walking.

Richard




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On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:20 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

Have you ever tried using them on a bus or train?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

I have a wrist speaker that unfortunately seems to be no longer available.
The speaker is called Woopower. I had gotten it from Amazon.
aI also use these apps when I'm a passenger in a car.
Richard




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On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:03 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

When you are traveling and using these apps, do you wear headphones or do 
something else so you can be sure you're hearing all of the announcements? 
Using headphones on the road seems somewhat unsafe.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route with 
Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route.

Richard





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On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction with 
BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything else I 
should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over my budget.
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread Andy Baracco 
I use the Aftershokz Trekz Titanium bone conduction headphones. They do not 
obstruct your ears so you can hear both the announcements and your surroundings.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kelby carlson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:03 PM
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare


  When you are traveling and using these apps, do you wear headphones or do 
something else so you can be sure you're hearing all of the announcements? 
Using headphones on the road seems somewhat unsafe.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route 
with Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route. 


Richard







“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:


  What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction 
with BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything 
else I should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over my 
budget.
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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread kelby carlson 
Have you ever tried using them on a bus or train?

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> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a wrist speaker that unfortunately seems to be no longer available.
> The speaker is called Woopower. I had gotten it from Amazon.
> aI also use these apps when I'm a passenger in a car.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:03 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
>> When you are traveling and using these apps, do you wear headphones or do 
>> something else so you can be sure you're hearing all of the announcements? 
>> Using headphones on the road seems somewhat unsafe.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route 
>>> with Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world 
>>> quieter.” 
>>> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
>>> 
 What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction 
 with BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there 
 anything else I should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is 
 way over my budget.
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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Turner 
I have a wrist speaker that unfortunately seems to be no longer available.
The speaker is called Woopower. I had gotten it from Amazon.
aI also use these apps when I'm a passenger in a car.
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 23, 2018, at 2:03 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

When you are traveling and using these apps, do you wear headphones or do 
something else so you can be sure you're hearing all of the announcements? 
Using headphones on the road seems somewhat unsafe.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route with 
Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route.

Richard





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On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction with 
BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything else I 
should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over my budget.
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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread kelby carlson 
When you are traveling and using these apps, do you wear headphones or do 
something else so you can be sure you're hearing all of the announcements? 
Using headphones on the road seems somewhat unsafe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route with 
> Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
> 
> On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson  wrote:
> 
>> What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction 
>> with BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything 
>> else I should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over 
>> my budget.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: GPS Apps with BlindSquare

2018-02-23 Thread Richard Turner 
My personal choice is Google Maps.  It is easy to flick through a route with 
Google Maps to figure out before you go if it is a good route.

Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, kelby carlson 
> wrote:

What is everyone's favorite GPS app they use specifically in conjunction with 
BlindSquare? So far I've just been using Google Maps; is there anything else I 
should consider? I've looked at Nearby Explorer, but it is way over my budget.
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Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-19 Thread Ed Worrell 
I have used both the Seeing Eye GPS and the NearBy explorer applications on 
iOS. I find that the interface of the Seeing Eye is much more intuitive and 
less cluttered. I live in Montana (USA) and the Seeing Eye seems to have much 
more accurate readings for POI’s and gives me much better information whilst on 
route. I do how ever love using the NearBy Explorer on my BrailleNote Touch as 
it works amazing on Android.


Ed
> On May 16, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Nimer,
> I too have not had the difficulty you have with getting good information.
> Have you written directly to Sendero’s support to report the issues you are 
> having when carrying the phone in your pocket?
> Their direct support Email is iph...@senderogroup.com 
> <mailto:iph...@senderogroup.com>
>  
> I know they value feedback and they may have a suggestion or they may ask you 
> to send in the log files when you have this issue so they can figure out what 
> the problem is.
>  
> I hope you find the solution you need.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
>  
> When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
> Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me 
> intersection announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that 
> this is very spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get 
> excellent GPS reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing
>  
> Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
> which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that 
> menu... and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
> it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other 
> large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be 
> unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have 
> currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk 
> quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about 
> intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me 
> every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street 
> I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my 
> current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address 
> range with street name.
> Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
> like to take a look as I don’t recall one.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>   <>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>]On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
> does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
> concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
> with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing 
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some 
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s 
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I 
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where 
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate 
> instructions.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>   <>
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viph

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-17 Thread Feliciano Godoy 
BlindSquare has actions you can choose from on the fly when you press the play/ 
answer button on a headset. This is convenient when the iPhone is inside your 
pocket while BlindSquare is in use.

Regards,
Feliciano
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On May 16, 2017, at 7:19 PM, Nimer Jaber 
<nimerjab...@gmail.com<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
  *   The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm,

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
“Whenever anyone asks for a feature” is a pretty generic statement. I’m sure 
they receive requests for improvements and new features all the time and I’m 
sure at least some of these have been implemented, the app is updated on a 
regular bases and I know for sure when it first came out just about everybody 
was asking for custom POI’s and that has been a feature now for a while.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Well then i wonder why whenever anyone asks them to incorporate a new feature, 
they say they need more money.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: GPS Apps

Thanks, Richard, if that isn’t wealthy I don’t know what is. I knew that they 
have received and probabl still are receiving from time to time substantial 
bequests, numbers in the hundreds of millions of dollars I would have actually 
not expected and without going into too much of an analysis, their assets and 
liabilities seem rather well balanced and controlled.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: GPS Apps

You can go to the Seeing Eye web site and download their annual report.
The most recent available is from September 30, 2015.
You can decide how to describe their financial codition.
Statements of Financial Position
ASSETS  
September 30, 2015   September 30, 2014
Cash and cash equivalents   
$ 1,817,000  $ 1,732,000
Prepaids and other assets   
398,000 291,000
Unconditional promises to give, net 
851,000  1,300,000
Investments 
  228,937,000 238,934,000
Beneficial interests in perpetual trusts held by others22,109,000   
 21,323,000
Beneficial interests in other charitable trusts 
929,000 966,000
Cash - NJEDA bond funds held by trustee 
-  1,921,000
Land, buildings and equipment, net
47,595,00049,414,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000
LIABILITIES
Accounts payable and accrued expenses  $ 
3,171,000   $ 3,330,000
Accrued pension and postretirement benefits 19,160,000  
  18,239,000
Interest payable
378,000 625,000
Capital lease obligation
2,458,000  2,476,000
Bonds payable   
  37,096,00037,919,000

   62,263,00062,589,000
NET ASSETS
Unrestricted
   209,537,000 222,663,000
Temporarily restricted  
   2,768,000  3,377,000
Permanently restricted  
28,068,00027,252,000
   Total net assets 
 240,373,000 253,292,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000

Reproduced from the September 30, 2015, financial statements audited by 
EisnerAmper LLP.
For a complete copy of our September 30, 2015, audited financial statements, 
please visit www.seeingeye.org/supportus<http://www.seeingeye.org/supportus>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@g

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Andy Baracco 
Well then i wonder why whenever anyone asks them to incorporate a new feature, 
they say they need more money.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:46 PM
  Subject: RE: GPS Apps


  Thanks, Richard, if that isn’t wealthy I don’t know what is. I knew that they 
have received and probabl still are receiving from time to time substantial 
bequests, numbers in the hundreds of millions of dollars I would have actually 
not expected and without going into too much of an analysis, their assets and 
liabilities seem rather well balanced and controlled.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:16 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: GPS Apps

   

  You can go to the Seeing Eye web site and download their annual report.

  The most recent available is from September 30, 2015.

  You can decide how to describe their financial codition.

  Statements of Financial Position
  ASSETS
  September 30, 2015   September 30, 2014

  Cash and cash equivalents 
  $ 1,817,000  $ 1,732,000

  Prepaids and other assets 
  398,000 291,000

  Unconditional promises to give, net   
  851,000  1,300,000

  Investments   
228,937,000 238,934,000

  Beneficial interests in perpetual trusts held by others22,109,000 
   21,323,000

  Beneficial interests in other charitable trusts   
  929,000 966,000

  Cash - NJEDA bond funds held by trustee   
  -  1,921,000

  Land, buildings and equipment, net
47,595,00049,414,000


$ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000

  LIABILITIES

  Accounts payable and accrued expenses  $ 
3,171,000   $ 3,330,000

  Accrued pension and postretirement benefits 
19,160,00018,239,000

  Interest payable  
  378,000 625,000

  Capital lease obligation  
  2,458,000  2,476,000

  Bonds payable 
37,096,00037,919,000


 62,263,00062,589,000

  NET ASSETS

  Unrestricted  
 209,537,000 222,663,000

  Temporarily restricted
 2,768,000  3,377,000

  Permanently restricted
  28,068,00027,252,000

 Total net assets   
   240,373,000 253,292,000


$ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000

   

  Reproduced from the September 30, 2015, financial statements audited by 
EisnerAmper LLP.

  For a complete copy of our September 30, 2015, audited financial statements, 
please visit www.seeingeye.org/supportus

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps

   

  Hello,

  How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

  Thanks.

  On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Turner 
Nimer,
I too have not had the difficulty you have with getting good information.
Have you written directly to Sendero’s support to report the issues you are 
having when carrying the phone in your pocket?
Their direct support Email is 
iph...@senderogroup.com<mailto:iph...@senderogroup.com>

I know they value feedback and they may have a suggestion or they may ask you 
to send in the log files when you have this issue so they can figure out what 
the problem is.

I hope you find the solution you need.

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Thanks, Richard, if that isn’t wealthy I don’t know what is. I knew that they 
have received and probabl still are receiving from time to time substantial 
bequests, numbers in the hundreds of millions of dollars I would have actually 
not expected and without going into too much of an analysis, their assets and 
liabilities seem rather well balanced and controlled.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps

You can go to the Seeing Eye web site and download their annual report.
The most recent available is from September 30, 2015.
You can decide how to describe their financial codition.
Statements of Financial Position
ASSETS  
September 30, 2015   September 30, 2014
Cash and cash equivalents   
$ 1,817,000  $ 1,732,000
Prepaids and other assets   
398,000 291,000
Unconditional promises to give, net 
851,000  1,300,000
Investments 
  228,937,000 238,934,000
Beneficial interests in perpetual trusts held by others22,109,000   
 21,323,000
Beneficial interests in other charitable trusts 
929,000 966,000
Cash - NJEDA bond funds held by trustee 
-  1,921,000
Land, buildings and equipment, net
47,595,00049,414,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000
LIABILITIES
Accounts payable and accrued expenses  $ 
3,171,000   $ 3,330,000
Accrued pension and postretirement benefits 19,160,000  
  18,239,000
Interest payable
378,000 625,000
Capital lease obligation
2,458,000  2,476,000
Bonds payable   
  37,096,00037,919,000

   62,263,00062,589,000
NET ASSETS
Unrestricted
   209,537,000 222,663,000
Temporarily restricted  
   2,768,000  3,377,000
Permanently restricted  
28,068,00027,252,000
   Total net assets 
 240,373,000 253,292,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000

Reproduced from the September 30, 2015, financial statements audited by 
EisnerAmper LLP.
For a complete copy of our September 30, 2015, audited financial statements, 
please visit www.seeingeye.org/supportus<http://www.seeingeye.org/supportus>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
We all have different requirements as well as expectations, I basically always 
use a headset of some sort, typically the Apple Earpods, when I am out and 
about so I don’t have to touch my phone to ask SIRI a quick question, just have 
to push and hold for a moment the centre button of the remote on the headset.
I just had a look and I don’t recall that sub menu button being there before 
the last update, but here I agree that they could label this as “More Info” or 
something like that. As for the map, I am blind so it never occurred to me to 
even want to use it, if I want a map to explore by touch Apple Maps is not bad 
for that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the Seeing Eye app is the greatest 
there is, any app can always be better, but it does work as advertised for me 
and seems to give consistent information which I find is usually accurate. I 
have used it on busses in Vancouver and it usually announced cross streets when 
the bus was just before it got to the intersection which to me is when it makes 
sense, I don’t want to hear it too early and I don’t want to hear it when the 
bus is already half way across.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: GPS Apps

I may have missed part of this thread.
What country are you in?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky fun

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber 
I am in the u.s. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I may have missed part of this thread.
> What country are you in?
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
>  
> When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
> Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me 
> intersection announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that 
> this is very spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get 
> excellent GPS reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing
>  
> Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
> which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that 
> menu... and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.
>  
> Thanks.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
> it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other 
> large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be 
> unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have 
> currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk 
> quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about 
> intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me 
> every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street 
> I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my 
> current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address 
> range with street name.
> Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
> like to take a look as I don’t recall one.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
> does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
> concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
> with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing 
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some 
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s 
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I 
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where 
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate 
> instructions.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. 
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they 
> would need to secure more funding.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Nimer Jaber
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me 
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
> work-arounds, please let me know:
> 
> Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I want 
> announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is busy 
> and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
> The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
> says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
> device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
> times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
> intersection d

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Turner 
I may have missed part of this thread.
What country are you in?

Richard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
  *   The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I 
often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds 
can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
information.
  *   Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
  *   Inaccessible m

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Hello,

When I am traveling, I do not wish to pull my phone out of my pocket to ask 
Siri about my location when, at minimum, the app ought to give me intersection 
announcements and POI's as advertised, and I have found that this is very 
spotty. I should say that the places where this was tested get excellent GPS 
reception, and the device used is an iPhone 7ing

Also, the unlabeled item is in the location tab... It states "submenu button" 
which, in my mind, needs a description about what is contained in that menu... 
and the map is completely useless for a voiceover user.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2017, at 9:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
> it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other 
> large cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be 
> unreliable. I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have 
> currently a 3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk 
> quite fast and so far the app seems to give me information about 
> intersections in time. Apart from that I don’t care too much if it tells me 
> every 5 seconds that I’m on so and so street since I usually know what street 
> I’m on and if I want on demand information I just ask SIRI “What is my 
> current location” and it tells me the address with street name or an address 
> range with street name.
> Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
> like to take a look as I don’t recall one.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nimer Jaber
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
> does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
> concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
> with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.
> 
> Thanks.
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing 
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some 
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s 
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I 
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where 
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate 
> instructions.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. 
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they 
> would need to secure more funding.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Nimer Jaber
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>  
> Hello,
> 
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me 
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
> work-arounds, please let me know:
> 
> Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I want 
> announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is busy 
> and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
> The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
> says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
> device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
> times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
> intersection descriptions though...
> The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I often 
> did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds can 
> be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
> information.
> Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
> Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name on it. 
> It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see fit to 
> make the maps accessible, or a

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Turner 
You can go to the Seeing Eye web site and download their annual report.
The most recent available is from September 30, 2015.
You can decide how to describe their financial codition.
Statements of Financial Position
ASSETS  
September 30, 2015   September 30, 2014
Cash and cash equivalents   
$ 1,817,000  $ 1,732,000
Prepaids and other assets   
398,000 291,000
Unconditional promises to give, net 
851,000  1,300,000
Investments 
  228,937,000 238,934,000
Beneficial interests in perpetual trusts held by others22,109,000   
 21,323,000
Beneficial interests in other charitable trusts 
929,000 966,000
Cash - NJEDA bond funds held by trustee 
-  1,921,000
Land, buildings and equipment, net
47,595,00049,414,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000
LIABILITIES
Accounts payable and accrued expenses  $ 
3,171,000   $ 3,330,000
Accrued pension and postretirement benefits 19,160,000  
  18,239,000
Interest payable
378,000 625,000
Capital lease obligation
2,458,000  2,476,000
Bonds payable   
  37,096,00037,919,000

   62,263,00062,589,000
NET ASSETS
Unrestricted
   209,537,000 222,663,000
Temporarily restricted  
   2,768,000  3,377,000
Permanently restricted  
28,068,00027,252,000
   Total net assets 
 240,373,000 253,292,000

  $ 302,636,000  $ 315,881,000

Reproduced from the September 30, 2015, financial statements audited by 
EisnerAmper LLP.
For a complete copy of our September 30, 2015, audited financial statements, 
please visit www.seeingeye.org/supportus<http://www.seeingeye.org/supportus>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. wh

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I admit I use GPS seldom as I live in a small town where I don’t usually need 
it. However, when I travel and spend time in Vancouver, Calgary or other large 
cities I do use it and I have never found the Seeing Eye app to be unreliable. 
I just turned 50, but I’m very physically fit and active, I have currently a 
3-year old dog who is eager to go places and I do usually walk quite fast and 
so far the app seems to give me information about intersections in time. Apart 
from that I don’t care too much if it tells me every 5 seconds that I’m on so 
and so street since I usually know what street I’m on and if I want on demand 
information I just ask SIRI “What is my current location” and it tells me the 
address with street name or an address range with street name.
Also, you mentioned an unlabelled button, can you explain where it is as I’d 
like to take a look as I don’t recall one.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nimer Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How well 
does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a vehicle? My 
concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I would disagree 
with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
  *   The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I 
often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds 
can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
information.
  *   Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
  *   Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name on 
it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see fit 
to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an alternative to 
the inaccessible maps.
  *   Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I can 
explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this app for? 
Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button descriptions and 
labels?
  *   Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can tell, 
is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I am not 
sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged for exactly? 
If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that, in all the time 
this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the devs can do.



I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or tell 
me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial, otherwise I would 
be requesting a refund. I can

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Hello,

How are you able to get it to reliably announce, say, intersections? How
well does it do at providing timely directions when walking or in a
vehicle? My concern is mostly usability, not as much who funds it, also I
would disagree with the statement the Seeing Eye is "wealthy?.

Thanks.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:38 PM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

> It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive
> funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I
> think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing
> Eye app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some
> degree on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s
> interface is cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I
> experienced a situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where
> Blindsquare had no map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate
> instructions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Andy Baracco
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation.
> when folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they
> would need to secure more funding.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Nimer Jaber <nimerjab...@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
> work-arounds, please let me know:
>
>- Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what
>I want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the
>interface is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
>- The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as
>the app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even
>when the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or
>more at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did
>like intersection descriptions though...
>- The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm,
>and I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but
>15 seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
>receive accurate information.
>- Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
>- Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's
>name on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did
>not see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
>alternative to the inaccessible maps.
>- Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
>can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this
>app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
>descriptions and labels?
>- Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
>tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I
>am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged
>for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that,
>in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
>devs can do.
>
>
>
> I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
> tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
> otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
> serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
> descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
> useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
> $299.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>
> wrote:
>
> I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> explorer did not meet my

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
It is my understanding that Sendero has received and continues to receive 
funding from the Seeing Eye school which in itself is rather wealthy and I 
think can afford to fund Sendero’s development efforts. I think the Seeing Eye 
app works rather well, what one finds cluttered or not depends to some degree 
on one’s personal preferences.I also heard that Nearby Explorer’s interface is 
cluttered and not very intuitive. As for how well it works I experienced a 
situation once in Calgary quite far in the southeast where Blindsquare had no 
map data at all, but the Seeing Eye app gave me accurate instructions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Nimer Jaber<mailto:nimerjab...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

Hello,
I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me not 
want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:

  *   Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  *   The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the app 
says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
  *   The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I 
often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds 
can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
information.
  *   Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
  *   Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name on 
it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see fit 
to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an alternative to 
the inaccessible maps.
  *   Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I can 
explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this app for? 
Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button descriptions and 
labels?
  *   Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can tell, 
is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I am not 
sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged for exactly? 
If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that, in all the time 
this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the devs can do.



I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or tell 
me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial, otherwise I would 
be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody serious about independent 
navigation use this app. Intersection descriptions are about the best thing 
this app does right. While that is useful, I am not sure that that is worth 
paying a recurring subscription or $299.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby 
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer 
was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't care 
much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that.  
BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest.

Regards,

Feliciano
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On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over 
Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as 
because Blindsquare uses Open Street

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Andy Baracco 
One of my concerns about this app is the possible shaky funding situation. when 
folks would ask about adding features, they were often told that they would 
need to secure more funding. 

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Nimer Jaber 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:29 AM
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps


  Hello,


  I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me 
not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are 
work-arounds, please let me know:


a.. Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I 
want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface is 
busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
b.. The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the 
app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when the 
device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more at 
times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like 
intersection descriptions though...
c.. The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and I 
often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15 seconds 
can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you receive accurate 
information.
d.. Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
e.. Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name 
on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not see 
fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an alternative 
to the inaccessible maps.
f.. Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I can 
explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this app for? 
Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button descriptions and 
labels?
g.. Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can tell, 
is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I am not 
sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged for exactly? 
If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that, in all the time 
this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the devs can do.



  I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or 
tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial, otherwise I 
would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody serious about 
independent navigation use this app. Intersection descriptions are about the 
best thing this app does right. While that is useful, I am not sure that that 
is worth paying a recurring subscription or $299.




  On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov> wrote:

I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM


To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps



On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby 
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer 
was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't care 
much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that.  
BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest. 

Regards, 



Feliciano 

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Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

  I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app 
over Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well 
as because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances 
found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing 
Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: GPS Apps





  Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just 
buy the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.

  Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as 
Nearby Explorer.

  I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps 
since I do not use it.

  I hope you find a good combination.

  Richard




  On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or 
Google maps does everything I need because Blind Square continues to

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Andy Baracco 
I like BS and NE because i do not like a subscription model as a matter of 
principle.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Giller, Anna 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:54 AM
  Subject: RE: GPS Apps


  I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: GPS Apps

   

  On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby 
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer 
was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't care 
much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that.  
BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest. 

  Regards, 

   

  Feliciano 

  For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v

  Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


  On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over 
Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as 
because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances 
found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing 
Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

 

 

Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy 
the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.

Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as 
Nearby Explorer.

I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since 
I do not use it.

I hope you find a good combination.

Richard

 


On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

  I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google 
maps does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.

  Marie

   

   

  From: Nimer Jaber 

  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: GPS Apps

   

  Hello,

   

  On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they 
would offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, 
however was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite 
good as I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose 
whether to use onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. 
I am considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

   

  So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will 
BlindSquare meet my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps 
that I should have on my list?

   

  Thanks all.

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Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Oh cool, thanks!! You are. great!! Not sure how I didn't think to check
there... Truly appreciate it!!

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:47 PM Lisa Belville <missktlab1...@frontier.com>
wrote:

> Hi.  The stock compass app can give you long/lat readings, though not
> automatically.  I'm not aware of an accessible GPS that does this.  If you
> don't need a continuous reading of this information, the compass should
> work
> just fine.
>
> It's usually in the utilities folder by default.
>
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and
> procrastinate all at once.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjab...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
> not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
> work-arounds, please let me know:
>
>
>- Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I
>want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the
> interface
>is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
>- The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the
>app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even
> when
>the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or
> more
>at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did
> like
>intersection descriptions though...
>- The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and
>I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15
>seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
>receive accurate information.
>- Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
>- Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name
>on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did
> not
>see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
>alternative to the inaccessible maps.
>- Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
>can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is
> this
>app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
>descriptions and labels?
>- Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
>tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the
> user,
> I
>am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being
> charged
>for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled
> that,
>in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
>devs can do.
>
>
> I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
> tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
> otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
> serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
> descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
> useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
> $299.
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> > Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
> >
> >
> >
> > On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> > explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
> > explorer was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was
> > superior.
> > I don't care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory
> > senses
> > for that.  BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points
> > of interest.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Feliciano
> >
> > For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
> >
> > Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
> >
> >
> > On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app
> > over Blindsqu

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Lisa Belville 
Hi.  The stock compass app can give you long/lat readings, though not 
automatically.  I'm not aware of an accessible GPS that does this.  If you 
don't need a continuous reading of this information, the compass should work 
just fine.


It's usually in the utilities folder by default.


Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and 
procrastinate all at once.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjab...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: GPS Apps


Hello,

I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
work-arounds, please let me know:


  - Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I
  want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the 
interface

  is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
  - The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the
  app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when
  the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or 
more
  at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did 
like

  intersection descriptions though...
  - The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and
  I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15
  seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
  receive accurate information.
  - Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
  - Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name
  on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not
  see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
  alternative to the inaccessible maps.
  - Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
  can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this
  app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
  descriptions and labels?
  - Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
  tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, 
I

  am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged
  for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled 
that,

  in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
  devs can do.


I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
$299.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>
wrote:


I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.





*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
*Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM


*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: GPS Apps



On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
explorer was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was 
superior.
I don't care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory 
senses

for that.  BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points
of interest.

Regards,



Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v

Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app
over Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as
well as because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several
instances found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is
what the Seeing Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.



Regards,

Sieghard



*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: GPS Apps





Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just
buy the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less
expensive.

Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as
Nearby Explorer.

I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps
since I do not use it.

I hope you find a good combination.

Richard




On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie <scribbl...@com

Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Nimer Jaber 
Hello,

I tried out Seeing Eye GPS today, and experienced some issues that make me
not want to purchase this app. Here is what I noticed, and if there are
work-arounds, please let me know:


   - Lack of Customization: This app seems to not allow me to choose what I
   want announced when... it allows me to view information, but the interface
   is busy and unnecessarily clunky in my opinion.
   - The announcements don't happen when the device is in my pocket as the
   app says they should... I do have background setting turned on. Even when
   the device is unlocked, on a bus the app missed every other street or more
   at times. And when walking around, results were not much better. I did like
   intersection descriptions though...
   - The frequency of updates was every 15 seconds. My phone got warm, and
   I often did not hear information... this is similar to the above, but 15
   seconds can be a long time to walk if you are a fast walker before you
   receive accurate information.
   - Lack of information: I don't see where I can get lat/long.
   - Inaccessible map: This app is for the blind, and has Seeing Eye's name
   on it. It is a complete and utter shame that the devs of this app did not
   see fit to make the maps accessible, or at the very least to provide an
   alternative to the inaccessible maps.
   - Terrible button descriptions: One of them just says menu... While I
   can explore and press things until I figure out what they do, who is this
   app for? Was it designed for the techy that doesn't care about button
   descriptions and labels?
   - Finally, the price... The map data this app uses, so far as I can
   tell, is free. There may be an up-front cost to provide this to the user, I
   am not sure... but I believe there is not. What is the user being charged
   for exactly? If it is for app improvements, then I am really appalled that,
   in all the time this app has been on the appstore, this is the best the
   devs can do.


I am critical of this app, but I am hoping someone can set me straight or
tell me what I am missing here. I am glad they offer a free trial,
otherwise I would be requesting a refund. I cannot recommend anybody
serious about independent navigation use this app. Intersection
descriptions are about the best thing this app does right. While that is
useful, I am not sure that that is worth paying a recurring subscription or
$299.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:54 AM Giller, Anna <anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>
wrote:

> I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Feliciano Godoy
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
> On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby
> explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby
> explorer was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior.
> I don't care much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses
> for that.  BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points
> of interest.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Feliciano
>
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v
>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app
> over Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as
> well as because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several
> instances found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is
> what the Seeing Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: GPS Apps
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just
> buy the iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less
> expensive.
>
> Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as
> Nearby Explorer.
>
> I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps
> since I do not use it.
>
> I hope you find a good combination.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google
> maps does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give
> you points of interest and intersections while the other app

RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-16 Thread Giller, Anna 
I like Seeing Eye GPS although its subscription is $70 a year.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps

On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby 
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer 
was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't care 
much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that.  
BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest.

Regards,

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, LIKE 
www.facebook.com/theblindman12v<http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>

On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over 
Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as 
because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances 
found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing 
Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps


Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy the 
iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.
Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as Nearby 
Explorer.
I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since I 
do not use it.
I hope you find a good combination.
Richard


On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google maps 
does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.
Marie


From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: GPS Apps

Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would 
offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however 
was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good as 
I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether to use 
onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am 
considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare meet 
my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I should 
have on my list?

Thanks all.
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Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Feliciano Godoy 
On iOS, I recommend blindsquare simultaneously with Google maps. Nearby 
explorer did not meet my standards. Although blindsquare and nearby explorer 
was said to use foursquare for its maps, blindsquare was superior. I don't care 
much for the intersection analysis as i use my auditory senses for that.  
BlindSquare provided more accurate information and more points of interest.

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On May 15, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over 
Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as 
because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances 
found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing 
Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Apps


Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy the 
iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.
Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as Nearby 
Explorer.
I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since I 
do not use it.
I hope you find a good combination.
Richard


On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google maps 
does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.
Marie


From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: GPS Apps

Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would 
offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however 
was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good as 
I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether to use 
onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am 
considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare meet 
my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I should 
have on my list?

Thanks all.
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RE: GPS Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I don’t have Nearby Explorer, but definitely prefer the Seeing Eye app over 
Blindsquare because of the detailed intersection information I get as well as 
because Blindsquare uses Open Street Maps which I have in several instances 
found to be less reliable than Google Maps which I believe is what the Seeing 
Eye app uses and I think also Nearby Explorer.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps


Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy the 
iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.
Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as Nearby 
Explorer.
I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since I 
do not use it.
I hope you find a good combination.
Richard


On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google maps 
does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.
Marie


From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: GPS Apps

Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would 
offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however 
was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good as 
I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether to use 
onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am 
considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare meet 
my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I should 
have on my list?

Thanks all.
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Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Richard Turner 

Well, if you would consider buying Seeing Eye GPS, you may as well just buy the 
iOS version of Nearby Explorer since it is significantly less expensive.
Or, a combination of Blind Square with Google Maps is almost as good as Nearby 
Explorer.
I don't know about the latitude/longitude option with any of the apps since I 
do not use it.
I hope you find a good combination.
Richard


On May 15, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Marie 
> wrote:

I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google maps 
does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.
Marie


From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: GPS Apps

Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would 
offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however 
was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good as 
I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether to use 
onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am 
considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare meet 
my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I should 
have on my list?

Thanks all.
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Re: GPS Apps

2017-05-15 Thread Marie 
I find that a combination of Blind Square and either Apple maps or Google maps 
does everything I need because Blind Square continues to run and give you 
points of interest and intersections while the other app gives you turn by turn.
Marie


From: Nimer Jaber 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: GPS Apps

Hello,

On Android, I used Nearby Explorer. I contacted the dev to see if they would 
offer some sort of a discount as I already purchased their app once, however 
was told I would need to pay for the app. On Android, I found it quite good as 
I could choose what I wanted to be announced, and I could choose whether to use 
onboard or online maps. It had features that no other app used. I am 
considering purchasing the app on iOS, however I am interested in others' 
experiences with navigation apps. I am looking for an app which will announce 
intersections accurately as I approach them, as well as points of interest. It 
would be good if it offered turn-by-turn navigation, although I would mostly 
use Google Maps for that. Getting heading is good. Rarely, lat/long is good as 
well, as I do enjoy getting out to geocache from time to time.

So, any thoughts? It's fine if it is more than one app... Will BlindSquare meet 
my needs? Should I consider the Seeing Eye GPS? Any other apps that I should 
have on my list?

Thanks all.

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Re: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?

2014-02-18 Thread Richard Turner 
Navigon is probably your best bet.
You can either buy just the region you are in, or the entire US or all of North 
America which includes Canada.
You can then choose which state maps you actually download.
JMO,
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I'm getting a Bad Elf Bluetooth GPS receiver to work with my iPod 5th Gen 
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Re: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?

2014-02-18 Thread Julia 

Hi Richard.
Sounds like a good option to me.
Thanks.
Julia

On 18/02/2014 3:09 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Navigon is probably your best bet.
You can either buy just the region you are in, or the entire US or all 
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You can then choose which state maps you actually download.
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RE: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Ruby 
Would this be a good option for the Iphone 5s too? I am interested in any kind 
of navigation app that I may be able to use that I don't have to pay a 
subscription fee for monthly or yearly. On my android I have the near by 
explorer and like it and was hoping there was one for the Iphone as well, but 
all I have saw so far is blindsquare and one other that charges so much per 
month or year.

Thanks for any info.



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Subject: Re: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?

Navigon is probably your best bet.
You can either buy just the region you are in, or the entire US or all of North 
America which includes Canada.
You can then choose which state maps you actually download.
JMO,
Richard


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   I'm getting a Bad Elf Bluetooth GPS receiver to work with my iPod 
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I'd prefer one which uses offline maps.
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Re: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?

2014-02-18 Thread Richard Turner 
Hi,
If you have the 5s, then Google maps is quite good and free.
Granted, the maps are on their server, but it doesn't really use a ton of data.
Mapquest is also free and quite accessible, where Navigon costs anywhere from 
$30 to  $60 depending on which package you go with, then you have the issue of 
updating maps.
Navigon is the best option for iPod Touch users in my opinion, but with the 5s 
you don't really need to have the maps onboard your device. Plus, having the 
maps on a server, means you always have the most recent maps.
Also, of course, the Apple Maps app is also accessible and free.
I don't use it that much myself because I prefer the interface of Blind Square 
plus Google maps.
But that is a matter of personal preference.
Blind Square, for what it does, is well worth the one time price tag, again in 
my opinion.
HTH,
Richard


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 On Feb 18, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Jim Ruby j...@blindsea.com wrote:
 
 Would this be a good option for the Iphone 5s too? I am interested in any 
 kind of navigation app that I may be able to use that I don't have to pay a 
 subscription fee for monthly or yearly. On my android I have the near by 
 explorer and like it and was hoping there was one for the Iphone as well, but 
 all I have saw so far is blindsquare and one other that charges so much per 
 month or year.
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Richard Turner
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Gps apps and the iPod Touch 5th Gen?
 
 Navigon is probably your best bet.
 You can either buy just the region you are in, or the entire US or all of 
 North America which includes Canada.
 You can then choose which state maps you actually download.
 JMO,
 Richard
 
 
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 On Feb 17, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Julia julia.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
Hi everyone.
   I'm getting a Bad Elf Bluetooth GPS receiver to work with my iPod 5th 
 Gen and am wondering which is the best GPS app which will work with them? I'd 
 prefer one which uses offline maps.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-21 Thread Anne Günther 

Hi
For stuff on amazon it's usually written down somewhere on the site. I 
guess that goes for other online shops as well.
I guess in genral it would be enough to state clearly in the article 
where you live, and that you only know that deals, products usw. are 
available where you live. So people might know what to expect.

Guenni

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-21 Thread Kelly Pierce 
Les,

I applied at a Citibank branch. Citibank doesn't require people to
show a college ID.  they say it is for college students because there
are better overall cards for earning points for general purchases.
However, nothing else gives quintuple points on Amazon.  Don't let
them discourage you.  Insist upon the card. Get the card and set up
automatic payment from your bank account.  Getting aps and i phones
ffor free couldn't be more painless.


Anne,

The article will be for North American readers, that is those in the
United States and Canada.

Kelly

On 10/21/13, Anne Günther ag82...@leseguenni.de wrote:
 Hi
 For stuff on amazon it's usually written down somewhere on the site. I
 guess that goes for other online shops as well.
 I guess in genral it would be enough to state clearly in the article
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain 

This is easy enough to check in the App Store, but google Maps is 12.8M.

On 10/20/2013 12:14 AM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

Do you happen to know what the size is?
Thanks.

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I would try google maps, it is free and will provide walking directions.
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Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give
me rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn
directions when I am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS
would be, I know that  some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just
listen to the podcast on the seeing eye app and I know that the
subscription fee is $69 per year, I really liked it but I don't want
to spend money on something that isn't going to do me any good. Any
tips would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
Lelia

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Anne Günther 

Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are 
available for everyone of just for folks that live in certain countries. 
Since it can be somewhat frustrating to read some great app, deal or 
product just to realize that it's only available in the us, Canada etc.

Guenni

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Lelia Struve 
I looked for podcasts on applevis about GPS apps and the only ones I 
found were the blind square one and seeing eye. I also found one on 
ARiadne and Mike's podcast about those five GPS apps were great.  I 
couldn't find any on Navigon though. Any tips as to where I can find 
one? Thanks


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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I agree if I know this already, but if I see something in the App Store, 
or see a news feed about an app worth trying, how will I know what 
countries it's available in?


On 10/20/2013 01:36 PM, Anne Günther wrote:

Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are
available for everyone of just for folks that live in certain countries.
Since it can be somewhat frustrating to read some great app, deal or
product just to realize that it's only available in the us, Canada etc.
Guenni



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RE: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Lelia,

Raul did a Podcast about how to efficiently enter addresses into Navigon for
planning a route. It may not cover everything, but it's a big part of using
Navigon and the Podcast is on Applevis, see link below:

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/entering-addresses-using-navigon-vo
iceover


Regards,
Sieghard

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I looked for podcasts on applevis about GPS apps and the only ones I 
found were the blind square one and seeing eye. I also found one on 
ARiadne and Mike's podcast about those five GPS apps were great.  I 
couldn't find any on Navigon though. Any tips as to where I can find 
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
Google Maps is free and provides audible turn by turn directions. Since 
it's free, there's no reason not to check it out. The native Maps app 
from Apple is also accessible, free and provides spoken turn by turn 
directions, so that's another app you can check out. These apps may not 
have some features that a blind user would find beneficial in a GPS app, 
but they're free, so you can check out to see if they meet your needs or 
not.


On 10/19/2013 11:27 AM, Lelia wrote:

Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me rides, 
so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when I am 
walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know that  some 
GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on the seeing eye 
app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I really liked it but 
I don't want to spend money on something that isn't going to do me any good. 
Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
Lelia

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Kelly Pierce 
One way to afford the pricy Seeing Eye GPS app  is to obtain the
Forward credit card from Citibank.  When you use the card at
restaurants and bookstores, you earn quintuple points.  This means
that for every dollar you spend at these places, you get credited for
five dollars in spending.  Citibank classifies Amazon as a bookstore.
Shift as many purchases as you can to Amazon, including food,
household supplies and even paper towels and toilet paper.  Amazon has
deals on everything with free shipping and no sales tax.  Soon, you
will be racking up loads of Citi Thank You points.  These can be
redeemed for an iTunes gift card.  The gift card can be used in the
app store for purchases such as the Seeing Eye app.

I will be explaining this and other money saving ideas in my upcoming
article on iPhone on the cheap. There are creative ways to afford all
the features and functionality of this device.

Kelly



On 10/19/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Google Maps is free and provides audible turn by turn directions. Since
 it's free, there's no reason not to check it out. The native Maps app
 from Apple is also accessible, free and provides spoken turn by turn
 directions, so that's another app you can check out. These apps may not
 have some features that a blind user would find beneficial in a GPS app,
 but they're free, so you can check out to see if they meet your needs or
 not.

 On 10/19/2013 11:27 AM, Lelia wrote:
 Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me
 rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when
 I am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know
 that  some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on
 the seeing eye app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I
 really liked it but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't
 going to do me any good. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank
 you.
 Lelia

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Les Kriegler 
Kelly, I was very interested in the information you provided. I placed a call 
to Citibank and was informed that a forward card was only available at least by 
phone to college students. So I'm not certain if that was the same product, or 
if one has to apply online for this particular card that you referenced.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 19, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One way to afford the pricy Seeing Eye GPS app  is to obtain the
 Forward credit card from Citibank.  When you use the card at
 restaurants and bookstores, you earn quintuple points.  This means
 that for every dollar you spend at these places, you get credited for
 five dollars in spending.  Citibank classifies Amazon as a bookstore.
 Shift as many purchases as you can to Amazon, including food,
 household supplies and even paper towels and toilet paper.  Amazon has
 deals on everything with free shipping and no sales tax.  Soon, you
 will be racking up loads of Citi Thank You points.  These can be
 redeemed for an iTunes gift card.  The gift card can be used in the
 app store for purchases such as the Seeing Eye app.
 
 I will be explaining this and other money saving ideas in my upcoming
 article on iPhone on the cheap. There are creative ways to afford all
 the features and functionality of this device.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 10/19/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Google Maps is free and provides audible turn by turn directions. Since
 it's free, there's no reason not to check it out. The native Maps app
 from Apple is also accessible, free and provides spoken turn by turn
 directions, so that's another app you can check out. These apps may not
 have some features that a blind user would find beneficial in a GPS app,
 but they're free, so you can check out to see if they meet your needs or
 not.
 
 On 10/19/2013 11:27 AM, Lelia wrote:
 Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me
 rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when
 I am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know
 that  some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on
 the seeing eye app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I
 really liked it but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't
 going to do me any good. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank
 you.
 Lelia
 
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Mike Arrigo 
I would try google maps, it is free and will provide walking directions.
On Oct 19, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

 Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me 
 rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when I 
 am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know that  
 some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on the seeing 
 eye app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I really liked 
 it but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't going to do me any 
 good. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
 Lelia
 
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RE: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan 
Hi, Lelia.  Have you taken a look at blind square.  It's significantly
cheaper than the Sendero GPS and seems to be pretty good.  I've just started
working with it, and so far am impressed.  There are some excellent podcasts
about it.  The cost is around $24.  HTH.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Subject: GPS apps.

Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me
rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when I
am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know that
some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on the
seeing eye app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I
really liked it but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't
going to do me any good. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank
you.
Lelia

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-19 Thread Gary Petraccaro 

Do you happen to know what the size is?
Thanks.

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I would try google maps, it is free and will provide walking directions.
On Oct 19, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give me 
rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn directions when 
I am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS would be, I know 
that  some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just listen to the podcast on 
the seeing eye app and I know that the subscription fee is $69 per year, I 
really liked it but I don't want to spend money on something that isn't 
going to do me any good. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thank 
you.

Lelia

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Re: GPS apps that cover public transportation

2013-09-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I've noticed that Google Maps has a transit mode. I've used Google Maps, 
and I find it accessible with VoiceOver, but I haven't used the transit 
mode yet.

On 09/05/2013 09:29 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:

Can anyone recommend a GPS app that covers public transportation?

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Re: GPS apps that cover public transportation

2013-09-05 Thread Andy Baracco 

Not sure what you mean?

Andy


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Can anyone recommend a GPS app that covers public transportation?

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Re: GPS apps

2013-08-21 Thread Chris G 
Hi,
Just create an account at foursquare.com and login to blindsquare with
your foursquare account.

You don't need foursquare if all you want is nearby POIs and
intersections with Blindsquare.



On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:34:20 -0600
Sherry Gomes sherri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've never used foursquare but I did also download it today.
 
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Fred Olver
 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: GPS apps
 
 Good Idea, Chris, using 4square in conjunction will give you lots more 
 information though.
 
 Fred Olver
 
 
 
 Author of Dealing with Vision Loss
 
 
 
 have a look it just makes sense.
 
 http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: GPS apps
 
 
  I'm thinking of getting Blind Square myself. While I don't travel on my 
  own due to health problems in addition to visual and hearing impairments, 
  it could come in useful in car journeys if the app can be of any help to 
  that. Also I can find out what's in a particular location without actually
 
  going to it. Thoughts?
 
  On 19/08/2013 14:55, Sherry Gomes wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
  haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to 
  need
  them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm 
  buying a
  condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks 
  away.
  So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
  the following:
 
  1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
  2. Points of interest around me
  3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
  address or have saved as a point of interest.
 
  4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
  well in a vehicle is fine too.
 
  Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can 
  point
  me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on 
  what
  the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would 
  be
  any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille 
  display
  and practice on my phone at the same time.
 
 
  Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
  Navigon
  Ariadne
  Where the hell am I
  BlindSquare
 
  And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
  now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
  different than what I have.
 
  Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
  sherri...@gmail.com
 
  As always, thanks so much for all the help.
 
  Sherry
 
 
 
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Re: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Fred Olver 
Sherry, although my forret in to GPS apps is very slight, I have been 
extremely impressed with blind square. It can be used in conjunction with 
4square on your phone and a couple different maps apps, I believe google 
maps and the apple Maps application. It can get you within approximately 16 
feet of the location which you have plugged in to it, either by address or 
by placing it in the my search function of the application. I doubt if any 
other apps can get you any closer than that, and if you already have it, you 
can use it for all of the items you have suggested in your post.


Also, there are a couple different podcasts on this application and it's 
uses on the http://www.applevis.com website.


Fred Olver

Author of Dealing with Vision Loss

have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:55 AM
Subject: GPS apps



Hi all,

I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to 
need
them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm buying 
a
condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks 
away.

So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
the following:

1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
2. Points of interest around me
3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
address or have saved as a point of interest.

4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
well in a vehicle is fine too.

Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can 
point
me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on 
what

the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would be
any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille display
and practice on my phone at the same time.


Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
Navigon
Ariadne
Where the hell am I
BlindSquare

And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
different than what I have.

Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
sherri...@gmail.com

As always, thanks so much for all the help.

Sherry



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Re: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Chris H 
I'm thinking of getting Blind Square myself. While I don't travel on my 
own due to health problems in addition to visual and hearing 
impairments, it could come in useful in car journeys if the app can be 
of any help to that. Also I can find out what's in a particular location 
without actually going to it. Thoughts?


On 19/08/2013 14:55, Sherry Gomes wrote:

Hi all,

I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to need
them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm buying a
condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks away.
So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
the following:

1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
2. Points of interest around me
3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
address or have saved as a point of interest.

4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
well in a vehicle is fine too.

Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can point
me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on what
the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would be
any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille display
and practice on my phone at the same time.


Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
Navigon
Ariadne
Where the hell am I
BlindSquare

And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
different than what I have.

Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
sherri...@gmail.com

As always, thanks so much for all the help.

Sherry



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Re: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Fred Olver 
Good Idea, Chris, using 4square in conjunction will give you lots more 
information though.


Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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Subject: Re: GPS apps


I'm thinking of getting Blind Square myself. While I don't travel on my 
own due to health problems in addition to visual and hearing impairments, 
it could come in useful in car journeys if the app can be of any help to 
that. Also I can find out what's in a particular location without actually 
going to it. Thoughts?


On 19/08/2013 14:55, Sherry Gomes wrote:

Hi all,

I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to 
need
them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm 
buying a
condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks 
away.

So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
the following:

1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
2. Points of interest around me
3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
address or have saved as a point of interest.

4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
well in a vehicle is fine too.

Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can 
point
me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on 
what
the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would 
be
any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille 
display

and practice on my phone at the same time.


Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
Navigon
Ariadne
Where the hell am I
BlindSquare

And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
different than what I have.

Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
sherri...@gmail.com

As always, thanks so much for all the help.

Sherry



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RE: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Sherry Gomes 
I've never used foursquare but I did also download it today.



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Good Idea, Chris, using 4square in conjunction will give you lots more 
information though.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: GPS apps


 I'm thinking of getting Blind Square myself. While I don't travel on my 
 own due to health problems in addition to visual and hearing impairments, 
 it could come in useful in car journeys if the app can be of any help to 
 that. Also I can find out what's in a particular location without actually

 going to it. Thoughts?

 On 19/08/2013 14:55, Sherry Gomes wrote:
 Hi all,

 I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
 haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to 
 need
 them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm 
 buying a
 condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks 
 away.
 So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
 the following:

 1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
 2. Points of interest around me
 3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
 address or have saved as a point of interest.

 4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
 well in a vehicle is fine too.

 Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can 
 point
 me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on 
 what
 the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would 
 be
 any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille 
 display
 and practice on my phone at the same time.


 Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
 Navigon
 Ariadne
 Where the hell am I
 BlindSquare

 And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
 now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
 different than what I have.

 Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
 sherri...@gmail.com

 As always, thanks so much for all the help.

 Sherry



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RE: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Kevin Minor 
Hi Sherry.

A GPS app that does all you asked for is the Seeing Eye GPS app from
Sendero.  It's not the cheapest app out there, but it does all you asked for
in one app.  I've used it successfully to get from home to some stores in
walking distance.  This is fine for me to get there, I could have done this
without the app.  Where I have the problem is getting home.  I have to cross
a parking lot and find the street to cross to head home.  It's a cul de sac,
ending at the street where I cross to get to it, and it's hard for me to
find it.  With the Seeing Eye app,  I found it with no problem.

To find the app, go into the app store on your iPhone, or use iTunes on your
computer and search for Seeing Eye.

Hope this is useful.  Oh yeah, the app is supposed to have an update coming
out soon.  I heard about this a couple of weeks ago, so it may already be
out.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
GO REDS and GO BENGALS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: GPS apps

2013-08-19 Thread Andy Baracco 

Blind Square works well for me. There are podcasts at:

www.applevis.com

And there is a lot of helpful info at www.blindsquare.com

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sherry Gomes

Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:55 AM
To: viphone
Subject: GPS apps

Hi all,

I know this is a subject that comes up all the time, but in the past, I
haven't paid a lot of attention, because I just wasn't in a position to need
them. I have a ton of them on my phone but never used them. Now I'm buying a
condo and moving to an area with a nice shopping area a couple blocks away.
So, I'm interested in finding the best app or apps to use for things like
the following:

1. telling me of streets and intersections/crossing
2. Points of interest around me
3. Notifying me when I am nearing a destination I have either entered by
address or have saved as a point of interest.

4. I'd like an app that works best for someone walking but one that works
well in a vehicle is fine too.

Here's the thing, I never feel I get a lot out of podcasts. If you can point
me to a podcast that has detailed step by step instructions not just on what
the app can do but how to do it, that would be great. even better would be
any tutorial, something I can read on my computer with one braille display
and practice on my phone at the same time.


Hmmm, some of the GPS apps I have are:
Navigon
Ariadne
Where the hell am I
BlindSquare

And I know there are a couple more I just can't remember the names right
now. But I'm happy to get a different one if someone recommends something
different than what I have.

Please feel free to write me off list if you choose. My email is
sherri...@gmail.com

As always, thanks so much for all the help.

Sherry



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RE: GPS apps, please help.

2013-04-13 Thread Eddie Salcido 
Blind Square is excellent for this.  I like Ariadne because it tells you how
fast you are going and the direction when the monitoring feature is toggled
on.  The thing to note here is that different GPS apps do different things
well.

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 Hello list,
please does anyone know any GPS app which would announce the street names
and house numbers when I am passing them?
I know Ariadne GPS does that, but it does not work in some areas for unknown
reason.
Your help will be highly apreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Maria

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RE: GPS apps, please help.

2013-04-12 Thread Thom 
Blind square should do this too, just not as well as ariadne in this area.
The upcoming Breadcrumb app from LookTel is suppose to do this also.

HTH,
Thom

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 Hello list,
please does anyone know any GPS app which would announce the street 
names and house numbers when I am passing them?
I know Ariadne GPS does that, but it does not work in some areas for 
unknown reason.
Your help will be highly apreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Maria

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Re: GPS apps, please help.

2013-04-12 Thread RobH! 
Blind square?  those are the only ones I've tried so far.
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 Hello list,
please does anyone know any GPS app which would announce the street
names and house numbers when I am passing them?
I know Ariadne GPS does that, but it does not work in some areas for
unknown reason.
Your help will be highly apreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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Re: GPS apps, please help.

2013-04-12 Thread David Chittenden 
Try Apple Maps. Find the tracking button ANd double tap it until it becomes 
tracking on with headings. 

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 please does anyone know any GPS app which would announce the street names and 
 house numbers when I am passing them?
 I know Ariadne GPS does that, but it does not work in some areas for unknown 
 reason.
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Re: gps apps

2013-02-19 Thread Scott Rumery 
I would wait until next Thursday to hear what the folks at Sendero have to say 
about their turn by turn gps app that they are going to announce at CSUN.
Scott Rumery

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Re: gps apps

2013-02-18 Thread David Chittenden 
Yes, in iOS 6+, this can be done using Apple Maps. It is already on the iPhone. 

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Re: GPS Apps Stand-A-Lone GPS Units

2012-08-10 Thread Pete Nalda 
Ok, this is coming from a partial, but car routes are so fun. I use 
mapquest4mobile in car mode to impress my iphone owning sighted friends, and 
know where I am with all the signs I can't read.  I think it also be useful to 
totals, as if needed for helping their sighted drivers, as said here.

On Aug 9, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 I'm not sure car routes aren't important to us. My sighted wife does all
 of the driving, and she used to, and probably still does, use a GPS
 device. Since I started using MapQuest though, she prefers to let me do
 the navigating while she's doing the driving. I think there's a lot less
 tension in the car now since we started doing this!
 
 Also, if I'm asking someone for a ride, I don't expect them to always
 know where i need to go. Unless they're going there as well, I think
 it's my responsibility to know where I need to go, the address of where
 I'm going and the directions on how to get there.
 
 On 09/08/12 22:05, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
 Certainly it is a tool, to be used in conjunction with cane, or dog, and
 your mobility training.  No, it won't get you exactly there, but it sure
 comes in handy for keeping track of what streets you're walking on, and
 where you are.  Car routes don't matter as much to us, because *hopefully*
 you're not driving, and have a sighted person doing that part, and they can
 read the signs. LOL!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: GPS Apps  Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
 
 Eileen,
 
 I am so glad you brought that up.  Ever since my very first Trekker about 5
 years ago, I have been saying that a GPS is a good mobility tool and nothing
 else.  As well as helping you, it can also get you killed if you pay more
 attention to it than to your orientation and mobility.  You must never pay
 so much attention to the device that you forget to pay attention to what you
 are doing.  If I am about to cross a street and the GPS talks while I am
 reading my traffic, I ignore it and make my crossing as I have been trained
 to do and just stop and press the repeat button on the other side.  It also
 seems to me like too many people think that the GPS will go and place your
 hand on the door knob.  I am lucky to get within 10 metres of a target and
 use my dog's and my ability to do the rest.  
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: GPS Apps  Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
 
 Hi, 
 
 I have been following this thread and I am concern that individuals are
 relying too much on GPS apps or stand-a-lone GPS units. We must remember
 that GPS is only a tool and it doesn't replace our orientation and mobility
 skills. It's to give us information and the information is only as good as
 the databases that the GPS apps or separate units have access to. This past
 weekend I was up in San Francisco and all three GPS products were having
 issues in giving precise information. At one point, all of them stated to
 turn left where there was a No Left Turn sign (car route mode). I
 understand that the choices we make regarding which GPS apps one will use is
 a personal matter, and individual GPS apps should not be knocked. This can
 give a misconception to those who haven't purchased a GPS app for their
 phone. As one of the other posts stated, it will all change when the iPhone5
 will be available regarding the purchasing of GPS apps. I just hope that
 Apple gets it right the first time. Now!! I will probably be cut down for
 this, but it is the Sendero GPS on my Apex that I eventually turn on to get
 more precise information and options that are not  available on my GPS apps
 on the phone. At least I have lots of options to get the info that I need
 when I am out-and-about. However, these options do not replace my ability to
 travel with the white cane. 
 
 Thanks for listening. 
 
 Eileen 
 
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RE: GPS Apps Stand-A-Lone GPS Units

2012-08-10 Thread Mary Ellen Sanchez 
How much is the breeze??

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GPS Apps  Stand-A-Lone GPS Units

The Trekker Breeze from Humanware or the BrailleSense from Hymms or one of
the Humanware Notetakers.  The Breeze is the least expensive of those
options.

Les
On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Mary Ellen Sanchez
sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi if i may ask are there any other devices i could get and how much 
 areb they?? i am looking for a stand alone dev ice something separate 
 than the i phone or note taker like a hand held device.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ron Pelletier
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: GPS Apps  Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
 
 Eileen,
 
 I am so glad you brought that up.  Ever since my very first Trekker 
 about 5 years ago, I have been saying that a GPS is a good mobility 
 tool and nothing else.  As well as helping you, it can also get you 
 killed if you pay more attention to it than to your orientation and 
 mobility.  You must never pay so much attention to the device that you 
 forget to pay attention to what you are doing.  If I am about to cross 
 a street and the GPS talks while I am reading my traffic, I ignore it 
 and make my crossing as I have been trained to do and just stop and 
 press the repeat button on the other side.  It also seems to me like 
 too many people think that the GPS will go and place your hand on the 
 door knob.  I am lucky to get within 10 metres of a target and use my
dog's and my ability to do the rest.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: GPS Apps  Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
 
 Hi,
 
 I have been following this thread and I am concern that individuals 
 are relying too much on GPS apps or stand-a-lone GPS units. We must 
 remember that GPS is only a tool and it doesn't replace our 
 orientation and mobility skills. It's to give us information and the 
 information is only as good as the databases that the GPS apps or 
 separate units have access to. This past weekend I was up in San 
 Francisco and all three GPS products were having issues in giving 
 precise information. At one point, all of them stated to turn left 
 where there was a No Left Turn sign (car route mode). I understand 
 that the choices we make regarding which GPS apps one will use is a 
 personal matter, and individual GPS apps should not be knocked. This 
 can give a misconception to those who haven't purchased a GPS app for 
 their phone. As one of the other posts stated, it will all change when 
 the iPhone5 will be available regarding the purchasing of GPS apps. I 
 just hope that Apple gets it right the first time. Now!! I will 
 probably be cut down for this, but it is the Sendero GPS on my Apex 
 that I eventually turn on to get more precise information and options 
 that are not  available on my GPS apps on the phone. At least I have 
 lots of options to get the info that I need when I am out-and-about.
However, these options do not replace my ability to travel with the white
cane.
 
 Thanks for listening. 
 
 Eileen
 
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