RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[la...@comcast.net]

strongly agree! 

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner 
Date: Saturday, June 03, 2023 01:31 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

Fortunately, the app icon on my phone still says, Voice Dream Reader. I hope 
that continues, as it's a much better name.
Best,
Anna

> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Richard, 
> 
> Thanks for those additional details about the new owners of Voice Dream 
> Reader also purchasing the name. I did not drill down further into the 
> developer name that is presented in the App Store. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Richard Turner > <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech 
>> TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I 
>> checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. 
>> name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. 
>> However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader 
>> Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little 
>> further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly >> <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>>  
>>> As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
>>> Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
>>> product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
>>> Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
>>> wanted to make others aware of it.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Anna Dresner]

Fortunately, the app icon on my phone still says, Voice Dream Reader. I hope 
that continues, as it’s a much better name.

Best,
Anna


> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Richard, 
> 
> Thanks for those additional details about the new owners of Voice Dream 
> Reader also purchasing the name. I did not drill down further into the 
> developer name that is presented in the App Store. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech 
>> TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I 
>> checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. 
>> name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. 
>> However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader 
>> Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little 
>> further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>>  
>>> As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader 
>>> Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the 
>>> product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS 
>>> Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and 
>>> wanted to make others aware of it.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Alan Lemly]

Richard, Thanks for those additional details about the new owners of Voice Dream Reader also purchasing the name. I did not drill down further into the developer name that is presented in the App Store. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 3, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.HTH,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi list, As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and wanted to make others aware of it. Alan Lemly



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Re: Voice Dream Reader now going under new name in App Store updates

[Richard Turner]

Yes Voice Dream Reader is now listed with the longer name, Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream, but the company name is not Natural Reader Audio Books. I checked directly with the new owners and they purchased the Voice Dream LLC. name as well and it is still, and likely always will be, Voice Dream LLC. However, the app store, for some unknown reason is showing Natural Reader Audio books, but if you double tap on that button or just read a little further down in the app store listing, you fine it says Voice Dream LLC.HTH,Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 3, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi list, As many of you know, Voice Dream Reader was purchased by Natural Reader Audiobooks from Winston Chen a couple of months ago. Now, the name of the product shown in the Updates section of the App Store is Text to Speech TTS Voice Dream instead of Voice Dream Reader. I found this a bit confusing and wanted to make others aware of it. Alan Lemly



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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Robert Doc Wright]

If you have paid for it already you are grandfathered in. the subscription is 
for new customers.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther Levegnale 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 7:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?


  Hi, everyone,


  I absolutely loved Soundscape.  I believe it was put out by Microsoft, right?


  Esther


  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi  
wrote:


Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two 
favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to 
be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? 
Also, how much will it be?


JODY


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Weihenmayer


  On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


  
  Hi Leo, et al.

  I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples 
list.





  I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the 
Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.



  He has given me permission to share the below information.

  Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription 
model.

  Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired 
Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it 
to them.

  On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him 
that the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you 
need an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer 
knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  
This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app.



  Here is what Winston said:

  " Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group. 



  The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount 
and timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to 
do it myself before the acquisition.



  On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will 
remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new 
company named Opus Noma.



  There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a 
legal issue, I have not been able to announce it.



  More from me about this soon..."



  An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no 
idea.  Be patient.

  And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.



  HTH,



  Richard, USA.

  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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RE: Voice dream Reader for Mac

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Ah… now if only they’d come out with a Windows version. 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 10:20 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Fwd: Voice dream Reader for Mac

 

Hi Richard and all,

 

I got the following response from Voice Dream reader support. It’s cool that 
the same subscription covers both; certainly a good deal for Mac users.

 

Best,

Anna

 





Begin forwarded message:

 

From: "Voice Dream Support" 

Subject: Re: Voice dream Reader for Mac

Date: April 27, 2023 at 8:50:39 PM CDT

To: "Anna Dresner" 

 

Hi Anna,

 

The subscription will work for both the Mac app and the iOS app. It will take 
another week or so to make sure the subscriptions are unified, but if you 
purchase one, it will work for the other. Hope that helps!

 

Voice Dream Support



 

 

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 11:14 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hello, 

I understand that the iOS version of Voice dream reader is going to a 
subscription of $60 a year for new users. Is the Mac version also changing 
owners, and if so, how will the subscription work for that? I use the Mac 
version and have the $50 a year subscription. Will that cost remain the same? 
Will there be a price break for new users who use both versions? 

Thanks, 
Anna

 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, everyone,

I absolutely loved Soundscape.  I believe it was put out by Microsoft, right?

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:
> 
> Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two 
> favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to 
> be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for 
> it? Also, how much will it be?
> 
> JODY
> 
> To Boldly Go   
> 
> 
> thunderwalker...@gmail.com 
> 
> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
> Weihenmayer
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi Leo, et al.
>> I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples 
>> list.
>>  
>>  
>> I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the 
>> Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.
>>  
>> He has given me permission to share the below information.
>> Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.
>> Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired 
>> Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold 
>> it to them.
>> On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that 
>> the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need 
>> an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer 
>> knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  
>> This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app.
>>  
>> Here is what Winston said:
>> " Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
>> Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group.
>>  
>> The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount 
>> and timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
>> subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned 
>> to do it myself before the acquisition.
>>  
>> On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will 
>> remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new 
>> company named Opus Noma.
>>  
>> There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal 
>> issue, I have not been able to announce it.
>>  
>> More from me about this soon..."
>>  
>> An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea. 
>>  Be patient.
>> And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.
>>  
>> HTH,
>>  
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>  
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Kelby Carlson]

FWIW, support hasn't been responsive the last couple of times I've emailed, 
possibly due to this transition.

> On Apr 27, 2023, at 4:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Anna,
> I will see if I can find out.
> Since I don't have a Mac, I didn't think to ask.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:18 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
> Applause Group
>  
> Hi Richard and all,
>  
> I sent a message to the support address a couple of days ago to see how Voice 
> Dream Reader for the Mac was affected by the changes and what the 
> subscription for the two apps would be, but I’ve heard nothing. Do you have 
> any information about Voice Dream Reader for Mac?
>  
> Thanks,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> Greetings all,
>  
> I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
> Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
> subscription fee.  
> New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The 
> current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
> In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous 
> app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
> I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I 
> would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want 
> the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
>  
> Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
> When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
> explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
> An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model 
> is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if 
> it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
> The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
>  
> The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com
>  
> the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
> contact email won’t change.
>  
> For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from 
> Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and 
> VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
> The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
> Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
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RE: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Hi Anna,

I will see if I can find out.

Since I don't have a Mac, I didn't think to ask.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2023 11:18 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
Applause Group

 

Hi Richard and all,

 

I sent a message to the support address a couple of days ago to see how Voice 
Dream Reader for the Mac was affected by the changes and what the subscription 
for the two apps would be, but I’ve heard nothing. Do you have any information 
about Voice Dream Reader for Mac?

 

Thanks,

Anna

 





On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Greetings all,

 

I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.

Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
subscription fee.  

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current 
price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.

In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  
That works out to $5.00 per month.

I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would 
gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app 
to continue to improve, which I believe it will.

 

Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:

When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 

An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is 
that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's 
worth it for them without spending any money. 

The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.

 

The support email will continue to be  <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> 
supp...@voicedream.com

 

the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
contact email won’t change.

 

For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, 
they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and 
will not be subscriptions.

The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.

Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard and all,

I sent a message to the support address a couple of days ago to see how Voice 
Dream Reader for the Mac was affected by the changes and what the subscription 
for the two apps would be, but I’ve heard nothing. Do you have any information 
about Voice Dream Reader for Mac?

Thanks,
Anna


> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings all,
>  
> I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
> Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
> subscription fee.  
> New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The 
> current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
> In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous 
> app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
> I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I 
> would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want 
> the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
>  
> Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
> When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
> explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
> An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model 
> is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if 
> it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
> The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
>  
> The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com 
> 
>  
> the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
> contact email won’t change.
>  
> For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from 
> Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and 
> VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
> The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
> Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Well, you could write to supp...@voicedream.com and ask. Or, sinie since you already own the app, be glad you won't have to pay.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:The only specific improvement they noted on the AppleVis forum was new voices; there's no way that justifies such a drastic increase in price. I would want to know much more about improvements they hope to make that would justify this than I do now to be convinced; "it's not sustainable" is simply not an adequate answer. It's wise of them to grandfather old users in; I'd seriously consider re-purchasing a Victor Reader Stream or going back to my old Apex to read books rather than pay that much.On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come on the first day of a change is ludicris at best. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be supported
 and get updates.
 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group


 
Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel







El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> escribió:





Greetings all,
 
I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee. 

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
 
Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
 
The support email will continue to be 
supp...@voicedream.com 
 
the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change.
 
For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
 
HTH,
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Justify? It’s their app now. They can charge what they see fit at this point. 
If you already bought it, you have nothing to worry about anyway. 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelby 
Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
Applause Group

 

The only specific improvement they noted on the AppleVis forum was new voices; 
there's no way that justifies such a drastic increase in price. I would want to 
know much more about improvements they hope to make that would justify this 
than I do now to be convinced; "it's not sustainable" is simply not an adequate 
answer. It's wise of them to grandfather old users in; I'd seriously consider 
re-purchasing a Victor Reader Stream or going back to my old Apex to read books 
rather than pay that much.





On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come on 
the first day of a change is ludicris at best. 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com> > wrote:



This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will 
come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for 
static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as 
basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making 
use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.

 

I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.





On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used 
to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what 
others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be 
supported and get updates.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
Applause Group

 

Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the 
means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of 
Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel






El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > escribió:



Greetings all,

 

I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.

Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
subscription fee.  

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current 
price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.

In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  
That works out to $5.00 per month.

I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would 
gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app 
to continue to improve, which I believe it will.

 

Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:

When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 

An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is 
that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's 
worth it for them without spending any money. 

The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.

 

The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  

 

the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
contact email won’t change.

 

For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, 
they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and 
will not be subscriptions.

The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.

Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner

RE: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[la...@comcast.net]

amazon prime is more than that., and you sometimes get free books. 

- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner 
Date: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 06:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

If you break the price down, it is about $5.00 a month, or $1.15 per week. I 
think most people could give something up that would cover the cost. 


Richard, USA.
"What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad that I won't have to pay for voice dream reader.  However,
> even if I did have to pay for the app, $59 per year is still a good
> price.  It is one of my most used apps on my iPhone.  I just added a
> ton of audio books to voice dream reader using iTunes.  I love being
> able to use a USBC to lightning cable.  The copy sppeeds that my
> zipped audio books copy over to my iPhone 13 pro max is incredibly
> fast.  It is great.
> 
>> On 4/25/23, William James  wrote:
>> Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your
>> wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream
>>> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app
>>> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this
>>> one is a joke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> "What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do" ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that
>>>> is now free.
>>>> 
>>>> I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free
>>>> alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but
>>>> there's also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has
>>>> also just come out with their own reader which I'm sure will be better
>>>> over time.
>>>> 
>>>> JODY
>>>> 
>>>> To Boldly Go  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication
>>>>> that they might.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for
>>>>> some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is
>>>>> worth paying for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>>> it."  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>>>>> Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Leo Bado
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let's

Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Kelby Carlson]

The only specific improvement they noted on the AppleVis forum was new voices; 
there's no way that justifies such a drastic increase in price. I would want to 
know much more about improvements they hope to make that would justify this 
than I do now to be convinced; "it's not sustainable" is simply not an adequate 
answer. It's wise of them to grandfather old users in; I'd seriously consider 
re-purchasing a Victor Reader Stream or going back to my old Apex to read books 
rather than pay that much.

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come 
> on the first day of a change is ludicris at best. 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will 
>> come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model 
>> for static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to 
>> something as basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced 
>> it was making use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be 
>> outrageous.
>> 
>> I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of 
>> this.
>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It 
>>> used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From 
>>> what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue 
>>> to be supported and get updates.
>>>  
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Gerardo Corripio
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
>>> Applause Group
>>>  
>>> Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the 
>>> means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version 
>>> of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner 
>>>  escribió:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Greetings all,
>>>  
>>> I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
>>> Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
>>> subscription fee. 
>>> New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The 
>>> current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
>>> In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous 
>>> app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
>>> I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I 
>>> would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just 
>>> want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
>>>  
>>> Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
>>> When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
>>> explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
>>> An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model 
>>> is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see 
>>> if it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
>>> The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the 
>>> app.
>>>  
>>> The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com
>>>  
>>> the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
>>> contact email won’t change.
>>>  
>>> For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from 
>>> Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and 
>>> VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
>>> The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
>>> Winston’s n

Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Your crystal ball must be amazing! To assert that no improvements will come on the first day of a change is ludicris at best. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be supported
 and get updates.
 

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group


 
Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel







El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> escribió:





Greetings all,
 
I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee. 

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
 
Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
 
The support email will continue to be 
supp...@voicedream.com 
 
the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change.
 
For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
 
HTH,
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Kelby Carlson]

This is a terrible decision, and it doesn't sound like the subscription will 
come with actual improvements. In general this kind of a subscription model for 
static products is repugnat, but especially so when it comes to something as 
basic as reading books. Imagine if Ambutech suddenly announced it was making 
use of their canes contingent on monthly payments; it would be outrageous.

I hope someone develops a free or single-purchase alternative in light of this.

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It 
> used to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From 
> what others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to 
> be supported and get updates.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
> Applause Group
>  
> Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the 
> means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of 
> Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
> 
> El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> Greetings all,
>  
> I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
> Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
> subscription fee. 
> New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The 
> current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
> In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous 
> app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.
> I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I 
> would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want 
> the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will.
>  
> Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
> When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
> explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 
> An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model 
> is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if 
> it's worth it for them without spending any money. 
> The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.
>  
> The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com
>  
> the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
> contact email won’t change.
>  
> For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from 
> Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and 
> VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.
> The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
> Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.
>  
> HTH,
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

If you break the price down, it is about $5.00 a month, or $1.15 per week. I 
think most people could give something up that would cover the cost. 




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad that I won't have to pay for voice dream reader.  However,
> even if I did have to pay for the app, $59 per year is still a good
> price.  It is one of my most used apps on my iPhone.  I just added a
> ton of audio books to voice dream reader using iTunes.  I love being
> able to use a USBC to lightning cable.  The copy sppeeds that my
> zipped audio books copy over to my iPhone 13 pro max is incredibly
> fast.  It is great.
> 
>> On 4/25/23, William James  wrote:
>> Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your
>> wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream
>>> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app
>>> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this
>>> one is a joke.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that
>>>> is now free.
>>>> 
>>>> I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free
>>>> alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but
>>>> there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has
>>>> also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better
>>>> over time.
>>>> 
>>>> JODY
>>>> 
>>>> To Boldly Go  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication
>>>>> that they might.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for
>>>>> some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is
>>>>> worth paying for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>> 
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>>>>> Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>>> Leo Bado
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause
>>>>> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still
>>>>> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that
>>>>> already paid for the app in the past under the

RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what you're asking, but they couldn't just start charging those 
people who bought Voice Dream Reader for a fixed price with the new 
subscription fee. However, they could definitely discontinue support and 
updates for the fixed price version and only support and update the 
subscription version.

There's also a big difference between what is and isn't legal versus what is 
and isn't allowed in the App Store. Companies get acquired all of the time and 
product lines will come and go.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let's say that Applause wants 
to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally 
viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for 
the app in the past under the one-time payment model.

Best,
Leo Bado

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Yes.  Perfectly legal.




Richard, USA.
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model?

Best,
Leo Bado

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn't have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

Best,
Leo Bado

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Hello,

I would suggest writing to 
supp...@voicedream.com<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> to find out.

Best,
Anna


On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado 
mailto:literophi...@myself.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

Best,
Leo Bado


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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm glad that I won't have to pay for voice dream reader.  However,
even if I did have to pay for the app, $59 per year is still a good
price.  It is one of my most used apps on my iPhone.  I just added a
ton of audio books to voice dream reader using iTunes.  I love being
able to use a USBC to lightning cable.  The copy sppeeds that my
zipped audio books copy over to my iPhone 13 pro max is incredibly
fast.  It is great.

On 4/25/23, William James  wrote:
> Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your
> wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Pro Max
>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream
>> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app
>> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this
>> one is a joke.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that
>>> is now free.
>>>
>>> I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free
>>> alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but
>>> there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has
>>> also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better
>>> over time.
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>> To Boldly Go  
>>>
>>>
>>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>>  Erik Weihenmayer
>>>
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
>>>>
>>>> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication
>>>> that they might.
>>>>
>>>> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for
>>>> some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is
>>>> worth paying for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the
>>>> Universe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Leo Bado
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause
>>>> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still
>>>> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that
>>>> already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Leo Bado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  Perfectly legal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search

RE: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Christopher Chaltain]

As far as I know, there was never a free version of Voice Dream Reader. It used 
to have a fixed price and now it’s going to a subscription model. From what 
others have said on this list, the fixed price version will continue to be 
supported and get updates.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 6:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, 
Applause Group

Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the 
means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of 
Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> escribió:

Greetings all,

I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.
Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
subscription fee.
New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current 
price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.
In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  
That works out to $5.00 per month.
I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would 
gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app 
to continue to improve, which I believe it will.

Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:
When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial.
An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is 
that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's 
worth it for them without spending any money.
The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.

The support email will continue to be 
supp...@voicedream.com<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>

the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
contact email won’t change.

For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, 
they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and 
will not be subscriptions.
The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.
Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.

HTH,
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[William James]

Agreed.  I expected something like what NLS Bard has, your history, your wishlist, ETC.  Nope, nada!Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this one is a joke.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado <literophi...@myself.com> wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googleg

Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[William James]

Fantastical did this a couple years ago and a lot of people were highly pissed about that choice they made.  Of course, they are mainly for the sighted market so they’re fine.  Voice Dream is a mixed market with blind and dyslexics, so it remains to be seen how this will go.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 7:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado <literophi...@myself.com> wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c501d9779e%24ee04a440%24ca0decc0%24%40myself.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you fe

Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Jody ianuzzi]

Oh I agree, I use voice dream reader all the time because it is better. The 
Bookshare app is brand new and they know it has bugs but they are going to be 
improving it over time.



JODY

To Boldly Go   


thunderwalker...@gmail.com 

"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
Weihenmayer

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream 
> Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app 
> from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this one 
> is a joke.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is 
>> now free.
>> 
>> I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free 
>> alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but 
>> there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also 
>> just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. 
>> 
>> JODY
>> 
>> To Boldly Go   
>> 
>> 
>> thunderwalker...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
>> Weihenmayer
>> 
>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
>>> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>>>  
>>> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that 
>>> they might. 
>>> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some 
>>> people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth 
>>> paying for.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>  
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
>>> Bado
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>  
>>> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause 
>>> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still 
>>> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that 
>>> already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model.
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Leo Bado
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>  
>>> Yes.  Perfectly legal.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>  
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
>>> Bado
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>  
>>> I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for 
>>> an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time 
>>> payment model into the subscription model?
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Leo Bado
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
>>> Bado
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>>>  
>>> OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t 
>>> have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded

RE: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Leo Bado]

Once more, thanks!

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause 
Group

 

Greetings all,

 

I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.

Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the 
subscription fee.  

New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current 
price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.

In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  
That works out to $5.00 per month.

I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would 
gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app 
to continue to improve, which I believe it will.

 

Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:

When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that 
explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. 

An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is 
that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's 
worth it for them without spending any money. 

The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app.

 

The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com 
  

 

the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the 
contact email won’t change.

 

For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, 
they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and 
will not be subscriptions.

The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so.

Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma.

 

HTH,

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

In my opinion, all those alternatives pale in comparison to VoiceDream Reader. Especially the new Bookshare Reader. I expected a much better app from them since they had a previous app that worked quite well. But this one is a joke.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is now free.I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem. At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that they might.  I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying for. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Yes.  Perfectly legal.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription model?  Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Leo BadoSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions. Best,Leo Bado From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna DresnerSent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AMTo: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription? Hello, I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out. Best,Anna  On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado <literophi...@myself.com> wrote: Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor? Best,Leo Bado  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c501d9779e%24ee04a440%24ca0decc0%24%40myself.com. -- The following information is importa

Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Richard Turner]

Z₣ar zI know, there is no free version. A 7 day free trial is it. Write directly to supp...@voicedream.com to get a direct answer.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:02 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner  escribió:Greetings all, I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee.  New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will. Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app. The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com  the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change. For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so. Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma. HTH,Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Jody ianuzzi]

Oh many apps of change models. There was one that was very expensive that is 
now free.

I think one thing the new owner should realize is that there are free 
alternatives to voice dream reader. It is my favorite reading app but there’s 
also the dolphin the reader and Capt. and others. Bookshare has also just come 
out with their own reader which I’m sure will be better over time. 

JODY

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Weihenmayer

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.
> However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.
>  
> At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that 
> they might. 
> I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some 
> people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth 
> paying for.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>  
> Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause 
> wants to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still 
> legally viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that 
> already paid for the app in the past under the one-time payment model.
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>  
> Yes.  Perfectly legal.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>  
> I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for 
> an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time 
> payment model into the subscription model?
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo 
> Bado
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>  
> OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t 
> have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app 
> offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  
> subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries 
> or regions.
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com to find out.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> 
> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
>  
> Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a 
> yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?
>  
> Best,
> Leo Bado
>  
>  
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Re: Voice Dream Reader subscription details from the new owners, Applause Group

[Gerardo Corripio]

Especailly here in Latinamerica especially, if the person doesn’t have the means to pay for the subscription, opting to remain with the free version of Voice Dream REader, what limitations could be encountered?GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 abr 2023, a la(s) 4:05 p.m., Richard Turner  escribió:Greetings all, I’ve been in contact with the new owners of Voice Dream Reader.Current users will be “GrandFathered in” so will not have to pay the subscription fee.  New users, as of today, April 25th, 2023, will have to subscribe.  The current price is $59.99 per year.  That may go down in time.In my humble opinion, that is a very reasonable price for such a fabulous app.  That works out to $5.00 per month.I have used Voice Dream Reader since its first year in the app store.  I would gladly pay $59.99 per year because it is such a great app!  I just want the app to continue to improve, which I believe it will. Here is a statement from the new owner/developer of Voice Dream Reader:When a new user downloads the app, they will see a subscription screen that explains the app a bit more, the price and a button to start a free trial. An important difference between the paid upfront and the subscription model is that we'll be offering a free trial, so anyone can try the app and see if it's worth it for them without spending any money. The free trial will be 7 days as of the date a new user starts using the app. The support email will continue to be supp...@voicedream.com  the Applause Group purchased the app and the brand from Winston Chen so the contact email won’t change. For those who also use, or will use, the Scanner and Writer apps from Winston, they will remain his property and will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite and will not be subscriptions.The new names will probably show up in the app store in a week or so. Winston’s new company will be named Opus Noma. HTH,Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com 



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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

I am not a lawyer, but I suspect it is up to the owner what they do.

However, I suspect that could be a huge PR problem.

 

At this point, they do not plan to do that and they give no indication that 
they might.  

I personally would have no issues if I had to subscribe.  I know for some 
people, that could be a difficult price to pay, but I think it is worth paying 
for.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants 
to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally 
viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for 
the app in the past under the one-time payment model.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Yes.  Perfectly legal.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado mailto:literophi...@myself.com> > wrote:

 

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[William James]

I saw it on AppleVis.  It came straight from Voice Dream Support.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Apr 25, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Penny, and anyone else who have stated that current owners will not have to pay for the subscription, could you say what your source is? I've seen no official information yet. I have reached out to the company that bought the app, but have not heard yet. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 25, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:If you already own the Voice Dream Reader app, you won’t have to pay for an annual subscription. Penny Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? Also, how much will it be?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Hi Leo, et al.I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.  I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired. He has given me permission to share the below information.Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app. Here is what Winston said:" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group.  The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to do it myself before the acquisition. On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company named Opus Noma. There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal issue, I have not been able to announce it. More from me about this soon..." An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  Be patient.And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases. HTH, Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com



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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Leo Bado]

Ok Richard, thanks again, now let me go further. Let’s say that Applause wants 
to put all customers under the subscription model, is this still legally 
viable? By all customers I mean  also all those customers that already paid for 
the app in the past under the one-time payment model.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Yes.  Perfectly legal.

 

 

 

 

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I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Bado
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OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado mailto:literophi...@myself.com> > wrote:

 

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

 

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[Dennis Long]

Absolutely it is legal. Sent from my iPhone SE 3On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:16 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I’m not sure how it wouldn’t be legal. I’d think the more relevant question is whether it’s allowed in the App Store rules or not, but apparently it is since this has already gotten past the App Store police.
 

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Yes.  Perfectly legal.
 
 

 
 
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I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment model into the subscription
 model? 
 

Best,
Leo Bado

 


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OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app
 offers 1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.
 

Best,
Leo Bado

 


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Hello,

 


I would suggest writing to 
supp...@voicedream.com to find out.


 


Best,


Anna


 


 


On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado <literophi...@myself.com> wrote:

 


Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?


 


Best,


Leo Bado


 


 

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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure how it wouldn't be legal. I'd think the more relevant question is 
whether it's allowed in the App Store rules or not, but apparently it is since 
this has already gotten past the App Store police.

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Yes.  Perfectly legal.




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model?

Best,
Leo Bado

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Leo 
Bado
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Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn't have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

Best,
Leo Bado

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

Hello,

I would suggest writing to 
supp...@voicedream.com<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> to find out.

Best,
Anna


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mailto:literophi...@myself.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

Best,
Leo Bado


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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

Yes.  Perfectly legal.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

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Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

 

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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Leo Bado]

I got a question. Is it legally  allowed to change the business model   for an 
app in the Appstore? In other words, transitioning from the one-time payment 
model into the subscription model? 

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 3:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:56 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

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Leo Bado

 

 

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OK, this source has been completely verified.  A friend of mine who didn’t have 
the app went to the Appstore and downloaded Voice Dream Reader. The app offers 
1 week trial after which  the user must pay a 59 dollar yearly  subscription, 
of course, the price probably is not the same for all countries or regions.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Hello,

 

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>  to find out.

 

Best,

Anna

 





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Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Anna Dresner]

Hello,

I would suggest writing to supp...@voicedream.com 
 to find out.

Best,
Anna


> On Apr 25, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Leo Bado]

First and foremost, Richard, I want to thank you  for providing such a reliable 
information. Secondly, I would also like  to know what is the source  from 
which some people are passing on what seems to be specific information on the 
subscription model. I asked about Voice Dream reader in this list because I saw 
bunches of WhatsApp  messages  giving, apparently, specific and detailed 
information that made me suspicious.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

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Penny, and anyone else who have stated that current owners will not have to pay 
for the subscription, could you say what your source is? I've seen no official 
information yet. I have reached out to the company that bought the app, but 
have not heard yet. 

 

 

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On Apr 25, 2023, at 1:11 PM, Penny Reeder mailto:penny.ree...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you already own the Voice Dream Reader app, you won’t have to pay for an 
annual subscription. Penny Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Jody ianuzzi mailto:thunderwalker...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two 
favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to 
be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? 
Also, how much will it be?

JODY





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On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Hi Leo, et al.

I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.

 

 

I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice 
Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.

 

He has given me permission to share the below information.

Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.

Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice 
Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.

On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the 
one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app 
to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the 
code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you 
end up with a team maintaining the app.

 

Here is what Winston said:

" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group. 

 

The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and 
timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to 
do it myself before the acquisition.

 

On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain 
my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company 
named Opus Noma.

 

There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal 
issue, I have not been able to announce it.

 

More from me about this soon..."

 

An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  
Be patient.

And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.

 

HTH,

 

Richard, USA.

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Re: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Jody ianuzzi]

Oh this is terrible! Voice dream reader and soundscape are probably my two 
favorite apps Soundscape is going away and now voice dream reader is going to 
be a subscription! I have used it for years well I have to start paying for it? 
Also, how much will it be?

JODY

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Leo, et al.
> I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.
>  
>  
> I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the 
> Voice Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.
>  
> He has given me permission to share the below information.
> Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.
> Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired 
> Voice Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it 
> to them.
> On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that 
> the one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need 
> an app to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer 
> knows the code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  
> This way, you end up with a team maintaining the app.
>  
> Here is what Winston said:
> " Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
> Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group.
>  
> The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and 
> timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
> subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to 
> do it myself before the acquisition.
>  
> On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will 
> remain my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new 
> company named Opus Noma.
>  
> There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal 
> issue, I have not been able to announce it.
>  
> More from me about this soon..."
>  
> An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  
> Be patient.
> And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

[Richard Turner]

Hi Leo, et al.

I just heard about this and here is the answer I sent to the BlindApples list.

 

 

I have a pretty good relationship with Winston Chen, the developer of the Voice 
Dream apps, so I wrote him directly and inquired.

 

He has given me permission to share the below information.

Note that no one yet knows the timing of the iOS/iPadOS subscription model.

Also, he is quite confident that the group he mentions below who acquired Voice 
Dream Reader will take good care of the app or he wouldn't have sold it to them.

On yet another note before I share what Winston said, I agree with him that the 
one-time charge model of app development is not sustainable if you need an app 
to grow and change with current technology.  If only one programmer knows the 
code, and something happens to that developer, the app will die.  This way, you 
end up with a team maintaining the app.

 

Here is what Winston said:

" Voice Dream Reader (both iOS and macOS versions), and the brand “Voice 
Dream”, were acquired by Applause Group. 

 

The pricing decision was made by Applause - I was not aware of the amount and 
timing. But I totally support transitioning Voice Dream Reader to a 
subscription model. The one-time-price model is not sustainable. I planned to 
do it myself before the acquisition.

 

On a separate note, Scanner and Writer were not acquired, and they will remain 
my apps. they will be renamed to VDScan and VDWrite, and under a new company 
named Opus Noma.

 

There should’ve been communication about the acquisition but due to a legal 
issue, I have not been able to announce it.

 

More from me about this soon..."

 

An official statement will be coming soon.  What soon means, I have no idea.  
Be patient.

And, at this time, VDScan and VDWrite will remain one-time purchases.

 

HTH,

 

Richard, USA.

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RE: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly subscription?

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

It is, but for new accounts only. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Leo Bado
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 10:54 AM
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Subject: Voice Dream Reader for IOS, yearly suscription?

 

Hi everyone, is it true that Voice Dream Reader for IOS is changing to a yearly 
subscription model? Or is this just a rumor?

 

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Re: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

[Richard Turner]

The way I access OneDrive in Voice Dream Reader is to double tap add.
Then, file browser.
Then, if OneDrive is not where you left it, hit the back button until you get 
to Locations.
Then, open Locations and flick right to OneDrive.
Make sure you are on the browse tab at the bottom, unless you know the 
file/files you want are in recents.
Then, flick through to the file you want and double tap. Then double tap on OK 
when it says your file was loaded.
Then find the done button in the upper right and double tap.
Then enjoy your content.




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> On Dec 20, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Almost any online data source can be added for VDR. I added OneDrive.
> However, the Web Browser VDR uses is completely unresponsive on the
> OneDrive link to sign into the service. VDR just goes to the OneDrive
> website. I just sent a support e-mail about the problem.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/17/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> That is not available right now.
>> 
>> Please write wins...@voicedream.com   and
>> request it.
>> 
>> I don’t know what kind of fee he may have to pay to make that happen, but it
>> would make it much easier that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> 
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mauricio Molina
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 10:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a way to add OneDrive as an option within Voice Dream Reader? I
>> notice that when the “Add” button is activated, followed by the “More”
>> button to see a list of services, while Drop Box and Google Drive, among
>> others,  are available, OneDrive is not in this list. In order to access my
>> One Drive folder, I must activate the “File Browser” button and locate
>> OneDrive which is considerably more cumbersome. I had hoped that once I
>> accessed files on OneDrive, OneDrive would be placed in the “Add” list along
>> with Drop Box and Google Drive. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mauricio
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Re: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

[Kelly Pierce]

Almost any online data source can be added for VDR. I added OneDrive.
However, the Web Browser VDR uses is completely unresponsive on the
OneDrive link to sign into the service. VDR just goes to the OneDrive
website. I just sent a support e-mail about the problem.

Kelly



On 12/17/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> That is not available right now.
>
> Please write wins...@voicedream.com   and
> request it.
>
> I don’t know what kind of fee he may have to pay to make that happen, but it
> would make it much easier that way.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
>
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mauricio Molina
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>
>
> Is there a way to add OneDrive as an option within Voice Dream Reader? I
> notice that when the “Add” button is activated, followed by the “More”
> button to see a list of services, while Drop Box and Google Drive, among
> others,  are available, OneDrive is not in this list. In order to access my
> One Drive folder, I must activate the “File Browser” button and locate
> OneDrive which is considerably more cumbersome. I had hoped that once I
> accessed files on OneDrive, OneDrive would be placed in the “Add” list along
> with Drop Box and Google Drive. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
>
>
> Mauricio
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RE: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

[Mauricio Molina]

Thanks Richard… I am sending this request/feedback right away. 

 

Mauricio

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

 

That is not available right now.

Please write wins...@voicedream.com <mailto:wins...@voicedream.com>  and 
request it.

I don’t know what kind of fee he may have to pay to make that happen, but it 
would make it much easier that way.

 

 

 

 

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My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Mauricio Molina
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

 

Hello All, 

 

Is there a way to add OneDrive as an option within Voice Dream Reader? I notice 
that when the “Add” button is activated, followed by the “More” button to see a 
list of services, while Drop Box and Google Drive, among others,  are 
available, OneDrive is not in this list. In order to access my One Drive 
folder, I must activate the “File Browser” button and locate OneDrive which is 
considerably more cumbersome. I had hoped that once I accessed files on 
OneDrive, OneDrive would be placed in the “Add” list along with Drop Box and 
Google Drive. Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

 

Mauricio

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RE: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

[Richard Turner]

That is not available right now.

Please write wins...@voicedream.com   and 
request it.

I don’t know what kind of fee he may have to pay to make that happen, but it 
would make it much easier that way.

 

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mauricio 
Molina
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Reader and OneDrive

 

Hello All, 

 

Is there a way to add OneDrive as an option within Voice Dream Reader? I notice 
that when the “Add” button is activated, followed by the “More” button to see a 
list of services, while Drop Box and Google Drive, among others,  are 
available, OneDrive is not in this list. In order to access my One Drive 
folder, I must activate the “File Browser” button and locate OneDrive which is 
considerably more cumbersome. I had hoped that once I accessed files on 
OneDrive, OneDrive would be placed in the “Add” list along with Drop Box and 
Google Drive. Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

 

Mauricio

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Re: Voice Dream Reader Disappeared From ShareSheet!

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hi,Have you tried the option "more" on your share sheet? that takes you to a longer list of options and you probably will find vdr there.Hope this helps, Sandy and ZSent from The dark side of the moonOn 15 Dec 2022, at 04:59, Fazil M.  wrote:
Hi, Group.I have iPhone12 with iOS16.2I tried to share an *.mp3 file with Voice Dream Reader from Files App but I did not find Voice Dream Reader in share-sheet or list of apps. How can I bring Voice Dream Reader to this list of apps, please?Thanks!



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Re: Voice, dream reader, anomaly

[regina alvarado]

Is it possible you accidentally got speech recognition on in the rotor? Just a thought.On Sep 25, 2022, at 9:05 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I just checked and it works fine for me; I end up in an email addressed to supportBefore deleting the app, close all apps from the app switcher and reboot your phone.Then try again.HTH,Richard“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Sep 25, 2022, at 5:31 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:Hello,I just went to settings in Voice Dream reader and selected the contact us choice. I then selected email support and now I have a blank screen and I am unable to navigate within the app. Has anyone else had this problem? I can delete the app and re-download it, I’m sure, but, I would rather not if I don’t have to.Amy.Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F590AAA-B726-48B4-BE24-45EC9D92A658%40comcast.net.



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Re: Voice, dream reader, anomaly

[Richard Turner]

I just checked and it works fine for me; I end up in an email addressed to 
support
Before deleting the app, close all apps from the app switcher and reboot your 
phone.
Then try again.
HTH,





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> On Sep 25, 2022, at 5:31 PM, Amy Ruell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I just went to settings in Voice Dream reader and selected the contact us 
> choice. I then selected email support and now I have a blank screen and I am 
> unable to navigate within the app. Has anyone else had this problem? I can 
> delete the app and re-download it, I’m sure, but, I would rather not if I 
> don’t have to.
> Amy.
> 
> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader [was "RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver"]

[Lana]

No. I meant straight from K to V. Once converted, it's easier to read on 
Stream, uless, of course, you want more voice choices.


On 5/3/2022 6:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
You can read your Kindle books on VDR if you use Codex to convert them 
to ePub.






Richard
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little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin

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On May 3, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Lana  wrote:

If only we could read our kindle books on VDR.

On 5/3/2022 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
I'd just like to echo Richard's praise for Voice Cream Reader. I 
bought the suite when it was on sale, mostly to get my hands on 
Voice Dream Writer. I hadn't started using Voice Dream Reader until 
I downloaded the ePub version of the Personal Power book on the 
iPhone. I'm really loving this app, and I'm sure I'm going to use it 
more and more.


--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely 
with VoiceOver


Most all the book apps, Nook, Kindle, Apple Books, will all read 
ePub books.


Voice dream Reader is by far the most accessible way to do this.


Richard


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with VoiceOver


If it is an epub file, the Nook app will read it.

Thom

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Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:46 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
VoiceOver


Hi everyone,

I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver 
does not support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds 
are that it's pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I 
know there used to be software that could convert Kindle eBooks into 
accessible formats. If I end up with an image-based file, such as an 
images-only PDF, I can run it through Voice Dream Reader to 
recognize the text, so I'm fine if the software creates an image 
file. Does anyone know of software that can do this? I have access 
to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is fine.


Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's 
bar mitzvah in a couple of weeks.


Best,
Anna



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RE: Voice Dream Reader [was "RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, but I don't hate the Kindle app, although I mostly use it for reference 
books.

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-Original Message-
From: Lana  
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Christopher Chaltain 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader [was "RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses 
to play nicely with VoiceOver"]

If only we could read our kindle books on VDR.

On 5/3/2022 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I'd just like to echo Richard's praise for Voice Cream Reader. I bought the 
> suite when it was on sale, mostly to get my hands on Voice Dream Writer. I 
> hadn't started using Voice Dream Reader until I downloaded the ePub version 
> of the Personal Power book on the iPhone. I'm really loving this app, and I'm 
> sure I'm going to use it more and more.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
> VoiceOver
>
> Most all the book apps, Nook, Kindle, Apple Books, will all read ePub books.
>
> Voice dream Reader is by far the most accessible way to do this.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> My web site; 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C66e5b2a18c6248e9e57b08da2d608c8c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637872189942326819%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=jH%2BvXLylbe53yJFwm5SJUCaZnYDAipp2Ul938OdIttM%3Dreserved=0
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
> VoiceOver
>
> If it is an epub file, the Nook app will read it.
>
> Thom
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:46 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not 
> support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's 
> pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be 
> software that could convert Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end 
> up with an image-based file, such as an images-only PDF, I can run it through 
> Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm fine if the software creates 
> an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do this? I have access 
> to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is fine.
>
> Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar 
> mitzvah in a couple of weeks.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>

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Re: Voice Dream Reader [was "RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver"]

[Richard Turner]

You can read your Kindle books on VDR if you use Codex to convert them to ePub.





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My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On May 3, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Lana  wrote:
> 
> If only we could read our kindle books on VDR.
> 
>> On 5/3/2022 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I'd just like to echo Richard's praise for Voice Cream Reader. I bought the 
>> suite when it was on sale, mostly to get my hands on Voice Dream Writer. I 
>> hadn't started using Voice Dream Reader until I downloaded the ePub version 
>> of the Personal Power book on the iPhone. I'm really loving this app, and 
>> I'm sure I'm going to use it more and more.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
>> VoiceOver
>> 
>> Most all the book apps, Nook, Kindle, Apple Books, will all read ePub books.
>> 
>> Voice dream Reader is by far the most accessible way to do this.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> My web site; 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7Ce3173ede5eeb4980784908da2d3d7d33%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637872039393553146%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=5eRqoQspGJAF2Bge8yG%2FsXlgtvQsNzsPMC8akYlaPuo%3Dreserved=0
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> thom3...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 12:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
>> VoiceOver
>> 
>> If it is an epub file, the Nook app will read it.
>> 
>> Thom
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:46 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not 
>> support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's 
>> pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be 
>> software that could convert Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end 
>> up with an image-based file, such as an images-only PDF, I can run it 
>> through Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm fine if the 
>> software creates an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do 
>> this? I have access to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is 
>> fine.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar 
>> mitzvah in a couple of weeks.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader [was "RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver"]

[Lana]

If only we could read our kindle books on VDR.

On 5/3/2022 5:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I'd just like to echo Richard's praise for Voice Cream Reader. I bought the 
suite when it was on sale, mostly to get my hands on Voice Dream Writer. I 
hadn't started using Voice Dream Reader until I downloaded the ePub version of 
the Personal Power book on the iPhone. I'm really loving this app, and I'm sure 
I'm going to use it more and more.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

Most all the book apps, Nook, Kindle, Apple Books, will all read ePub books.

Voice dream Reader is by far the most accessible way to do this.


Richard


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Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

If it is an epub file, the Nook app will read it.

Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:46 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

Hi everyone,

I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not support 
this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's pictures of the 
pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be software that could convert 
Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end up with an image-based file, such as an 
images-only PDF, I can run it through Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm 
fine if the software creates an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do 
this? I have access to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is fine.

Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar mitzvah 
in a couple of weeks.

Best,
Anna



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Re: Voice Dream Reader with a braille display

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard,

I agree that Dream Reader works well with braille. You can control how much of 
the screen is taken up by text. Having only a couple of lines makes it less 
likely that you will lose your place, which can happen if you have a lot of 
lines onscreen and accidentally touch text that is many lines from where you 
were reading. Panning works smoothly and doesn't result in lost or duplicated 
text.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I really don’t have too much problems with Voice Dream Reader with my Braille 
> display. I do have to pan through a lot of settings before i can get to the 
> book, but i can do it. It reads pretty well after that. Hope this helps,
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Asking on behalf of a deaf-blind user. This is for people who use their 
>> braille display extensively with their iPhone.
>> Do you use Voice Dream Reader?
>> If so, how well does it work keeping in mind the person cannot listen to 
>> find out where they are.
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> website:  www.turner42.com
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Re: Voice Dream Reader with a braille display

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Richard,

I really don’t have too much problems with Voice Dream Reader with my Braille 
display. I do have to pan through a lot of settings before i can get to the 
book, but i can do it. It reads pretty well after that. Hope this helps,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Dec 27, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Asking on behalf of a deaf-blind user. This is for people who use their 
> braille display extensively with their iPhone.
> Do you use Voice Dream Reader?
> If so, how well does it work keeping in mind the person cannot listen to find 
> out where they are.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

[Richard Turner]

Keith,
I have not done much with unzipping in the files app.  Sorry.



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On Aug 19, 2021, at 1:00 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

thanks for the suggestion, Richard. Unfortunately, that didn’t work.

you are correct, though,. This document is a downloaded zip file, but I tried 
to uncompress from within the files app. I ran into a problem but was able to 
eventually open it with the audio files automatically going to voice dream 
reader. Is there a solution to uncompressing and opening audio files from 
within a zip file in the files app? I haven’t figured that out either.

Thanks, Keith

On Aug 19, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.

HTH,



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Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

hi,

I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
unprotected MP3 audio files.

I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.

Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?

I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

thanks for the suggestion, Richard. Unfortunately, that didn’t work.

you are correct, though,. This document is a downloaded zip file, but I tried 
to uncompress from within the files app. I ran into a problem but was able to 
eventually open it with the audio files automatically going to voice dream 
reader. Is there a solution to uncompressing and opening audio files from 
within a zip file in the files app? I haven’t figured that out either.

Thanks, Keith

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
> individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
> flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks
> 
> hi,
> 
> I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
> unprotected MP3 audio files.
> 
> I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.
> 
> Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?
> 
> I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
> out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.
> 
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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RE: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

[Richard Turner]

Well, since those files are in a zip file, I'm not sure you could copy out 
individual files within Voice dream, but try touching the track you want and 
flicking up or down with one finger and see if move is an option.

HTH,



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-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice dream reader and copying/moving individual tracks

hi,

I have a document within voice dream reader which is essentially an album of 
unprotected MP3 audio files.

I would like to select several for copy and/or move to a new folder.

Is this possible? If so, could someone please explain a step by step?

I believe I have done this in the past, but I have not been able to figure it 
out in recent days. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks, richard! I seem to have solved the issue by importing the VDR .txt 
files into textedit on the Mac and setting preferences to open and save as 
plain text. I don’t really understand the complexities, but at least it is 
working to read the files on the Focus Blue!
Harry

> On 18 Apr 2021, at 11:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> 
> There is no documentation that I've found to say if they are UTF-8 or not.
> So, you will find out the quickest by trying one and see.
> Or write Winston directly. 
> I suppose you could bring up the properties on a computer and see if you can 
> find the encoding info that way...
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>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:06 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I 
>> can put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus 
>> Blue 14 5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and 
>> select all text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text 
>> which the Focus guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for 
>> Scratchpad?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
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Re: Voice Dream Reader exporting text?

[Richard Turner]

There is no documentation that I've found to say if they are UTF-8 or not.
So, you will find out the quickest by trying one and see.
Or write Winston directly.
I suppose you could bring up the properties on a computer and see if you can 
find the encoding info that way...



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On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:06 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I want to get files from Voice Dream Reader in plain text format so that I can 
put them on the micro SD card which I can then insert into my new Focus Blue 14 
5th generation. If I open a VDR file, double tap on Document and select all 
text, will the exported .txt file be UTF-8 formatted plain text which the Focus 
guide insists is the only acceptable plain text format for Scratchpad?
Thanks
Harry

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RE: voice dream reader and siri voices

[Richard Turner]

The short answer is no.
Apple won't let third party apps use Siri voices yet.
When you use it with Kindle, you are using VoiceOver to read, not the Kindle 
app so far as the voice is concerned.
So, like many, many, of us, please write 
accessibil...@apple.com and request that they 
allow app developers to use Siri voices, especially book reading apps like 
voice Dream Reader.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
juanhernande...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voice dream reader and siri voices

Hi All,

I have been using the siri mail voice to read my kindle books.  I just got 
voice dream reader and I am not able to use the siri voices at all.  Are there 
any ways to get this to work?

Best,

  jJuan
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

Well, my first choice would be to connect something like a Victor Reader to the 
earphone jack and record it that way. 
Or, you probably could use the screen recording feature, but realize that is 
likely to be a very large file depending on how long of a recording you are 
making. 


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> On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:19 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> What would be the ideal way for doing that? Can you record on iPhone 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No.
>> You cannot convert text files to audio with Voice Dream Reader.
>> The only way would be to record the entire file as Voice Dream reads it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
>> Chan
>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Voice Dream Reader
>> 
>> Hi gangs,
>> When a text file added to VDR, can I share it as an audio file to someone or 
>> to the cloud?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

[TaraPrakash]

What would be the ideal way for doing that? Can you record on iPhone 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> No.
> You cannot convert text files to audio with Voice Dream Reader.
> The only way would be to record the entire file as Voice Dream reads it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
> Chan
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Reader
> 
> Hi gangs,
> When a text file added to VDR, can I share it as an audio file to someone or 
> to the cloud?
> 
> Thx,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

[Marco Chan]

Oh I see! Thanks Richard!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Jan 2021, at 12:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> No.
> You cannot convert text files to audio with Voice Dream Reader.
> The only way would be to record the entire file as Voice Dream reads it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
> Chan
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voice Dream Reader
> 
> Hi gangs,
> When a text file added to VDR, can I share it as an audio file to someone or 
> to the cloud?
> 
> Thx,
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Voice Dream Reader

[Richard Turner]

No.
You cannot convert text files to audio with Voice Dream Reader.
The only way would be to record the entire file as Voice Dream reads it.



Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Chan
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voice Dream Reader

Hi gangs,
When a text file added to VDR, can I share it as an audio file to someone or to 
the cloud?

Thx,

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[dani pagador]

I know money is precious, especially these days. But IMHO, I don't
mind having gotten the apps separately. Winston's costs are
reasonable, and he's made sure over the years to make sure the apps
have kept up with IOS development, and we're not charged for updates
at all. Not a steal. More like a really really great deal.
I'll go look at this new added feature now.
Thanks,
Dani

On 1/11/21, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> Yes. I've the two apps. Weird! because I just checked and the Scan button is
> no longer there! I too need to go into Add as you mentioned, with the first
> Button being Scan.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>> El 11 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:00 a.m., Richard Turner
>>  escribió:
>>
>> Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
>> Do you also have the separate scanner app?
>> I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do
>> the add button, then scanner.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
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>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
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>>
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes
>> scanning
>>
>> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's
>> a Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as
>> you'd be if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I
>> seem to have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the
>> separate VDR Scanner app?
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>
>>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner
>>>  escribió:
>>>
>>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel
>>> like I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app
>>> all this time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted
>>> severl times in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be
>>> beneficial for quick scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point
>>> it at a document, piece of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a
>>> result.
>>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then
>>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan
>>> done.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to
>>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream
>>>> apps as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better
>>>> off had we waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to
>>>> the stand alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you
>>>>> select add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the
>>>>> camera. It has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does
>>>>> not import those settings so if the default is not what you want, you
>>>>> can change them right there.
>>>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which
>>>>> is completely accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in
>>>>> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>>>> asphyxiation in dee

Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

Yes. I've the two apps. Weird! because I just checked and the Scan button is no 
longer there! I too need to go into Add as you mentioned, with the first Button 
being Scan.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 11 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:00 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
> Do you also have the separate scanner app?
> I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do 
> the add button, then scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning
> 
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
> if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to 
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
> Scanner app?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like 
>> I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
>> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
>> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
>> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
>> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then 
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan 
>> done. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to 
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps 
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It 
>>>> has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>>> there. 
>>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>>> completely accessible. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>>> when I was young."
>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>> 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

Very interesting.  I do not find that scan button.
Do you also have the separate scanner app?
I have both and the only way I can scan within Voice Dream Reader is to do the 
add button, then scanner.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[lenron brown]

As much as I don't scan things. I am not going to be upset about
waiting a few extra seconds. So I will take this added feature in
voice dream. It's the only app by the devs over there I have.

On 1/11/21, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a
> Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd
> be if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to
> have vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate
> VDR Scanner app?
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>
>> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner
>>  escribió:
>>
>> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel
>> like I got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app
>> all this time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted
>> severl times in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be
>> beneficial for quick scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point
>> it at a document, piece of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a
>> result.
>> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then
>> select scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan
>> done.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>
>>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to
>>> give permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps
>>> as seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had
>>> we waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the
>>> stand alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner
>  wrote:

 As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select
 add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It
 has the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import
 those settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change
 them right there.
 It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is
 completely accessible.


 Richard

 "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
 Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
 asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
 mother told me when I was young."
 "Why, what did she tell you?"
 "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Gerardo Corripio]

On mine, I don't need to go into Add; right before the Add button, there's a 
Scan button. You double-tap, and you're in the the same interface as you'd be 
if you open the Scanner app. Wasn't the Scan item there before? I seem to have 
vaguely seen it! Or is it only there for those who have the separate VDR 
Scanner app?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 10:21 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Mary Otten]

I totally agree, richard. In fact, since I have the scanning app and the 
reader, I don’t think the addition of the scanner to the reader is going to do 
anything for us who have the reader. Is there a difference between the reader 
that had the scanning functionality in it already, as in with a PDF when you 
load it in and it’s an image. I guess there is, because this let you scan 
documents that you haven’t loaded in yet? Anyway, I was fine with it the way it 
was.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
> got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this 
> time for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times 
> in various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick 
> scans. With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece 
> of mail, whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
> With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
> scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
>> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
>> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
>> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand 
>> alone VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>>> there. 
>>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>>> completely accessible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Richard Turner]

I strongly disagree. Having bought the apps separately, I do not feel like I 
got a bad deal at all. I've been able to use the stand-alone app all this time 
for quick and accurate scans, and as the tweet I've quoted severl times in 
various messages, the stand-alone app will still be beneficial for quick scans. 
With the stand-alone app, you open it, point it at a document, piece of mail, 
whatever, and in seconds you have a result. 
With the Reader application, you have to open it, select add, and then select 
scanner. By the time I do that, I could have already had the scan done. 


Richard

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> On Jan 10, 2021, at 7:04 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
> permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as 
> seprate apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we 
> waited, unless the developer plans to add premium features to the stand alone 
> VoiceDream scanner. We shall wait and see!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select 
>> add, then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has 
>> the same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those 
>> settings so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right 
>> there. 
>> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
>> completely accessible. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
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>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update is out, version 4.12 includes scanning

[Cris Ali]

I also updated. As Richard said, when you select add, you are asked to give 
permission to the camera. Those of us who bought the VoiceDream apps as seprate 
apps had gotten a bad deal. We would have been better off had we waited, unless 
the developer plans to add premium features to the stand alone VoiceDream 
scanner. We shall wait and see!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> As mentioned by Alan, the update is out. I updated, and when you select add, 
> then scanner, you have to give it permission to use the camera. It has the 
> same settings as Voice Dream Scanner, but it does not import those settings 
> so if the default is not what you want, you can change them right there. 
> It scans to whatever folder you have open, and defaults to PDF, which is 
> completely accessible. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
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> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
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RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Simon A Fogarty]

I wouldn’t think it will change things for us,

But may be down the line they remove both and install one,

I would think you can purchase one app if you wish to
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lana
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 2:48 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Robert Doc Wright 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase


Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the reader 
part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?
On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
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Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase

Hi List,

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

Mike, and others,
If you don’t have Reader, and you like to read, get reader and at least in the 
United States, join bookshare.
For $50 per year, you get all the books you can read and then some.
They often have books available the day they land in the bookstores.

It is my primary book reading tool, though also BARD from the National Library 
Service for the Blind when I want human read audio and they are getting 
commercial audio books much faster into their collection, which means buying 
fewer audio books from Libro.fm or Audible.

But for any electronic documents in most all formats, Voice Dream Reader is the 
best!



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Yes, I did purchase it after doing a search and finding it isn't part of Voice 
OCR or Voice Scanner.  I looked in the App Library and since it wasn't in there 
I figured, what the hell, and gotter done!  LOL

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Voice Dream Reader is primarily a electronic document reader that is fantastic! 
 It works great with Bookshare or any non-DRM ePub books, word documents, html, 
plain text, pdf, etc.
If it is still $9.99, get it.
If it is already $1999, and you use Bookshare, or other documents, get it 
anyway.



Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Richard,

I currently have Voice OCR and Voice Dream Scanner.  Is Voice Dream Reader part 
of these or, do I need to get the Reader to have the complete package?

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

The scanner will still be available.
Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:
Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.




Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! I 
wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to give 
people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? Will the 
Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a scanner, and 
not the reader;

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly 

RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[kitty hevener]

Just got reader for low price

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 11:24 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; idevi...@groups.io
Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase

 

Hi List,

 

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Mike B]

Yes, I did purchase it after doing a search and finding it isn't part of 
Voice OCR or Voice Scanner.  I looked in the App Library and since it wasn't 
in there I figured, what the hell, and gotter done!  LOL

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase


Voice Dream Reader is primarily a electronic document reader that is 
fantastic!  It works great with Bookshare or any non-DRM ePub books, word 
documents, html, plain text, pdf, etc.

If it is still $9.99, get it.

If it is already $1999, and you use Bookshare, or other documents, get it 
anyway.







Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase



Richard,



I currently have Voice OCR and Voice Dream Scanner.  Is Voice Dream Reader 
part of these or, do I need to get the Reader to have the complete package?


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:12 AM

Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase



The scanner will still be available.

Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:

Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.









Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase



About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! 
I wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to 
give people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? 
Will the Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a 
scanner, and not the reader;



Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



  El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly  
escribió:

  

  I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have 
it with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any 
additional charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an 
additional charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an 
additional payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name 
to distinguish it from the original one has to be purchased.



  I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is 
added.



  Alan Lemly



  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS


--

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Richard Turner 
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice 
Dream Scanner with a price increase



  You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.

  We should find out later today.

  Richard



  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana  wrote:



Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the 
reader part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?

On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

  what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly

To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; idevi...@groups.io

Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM

Subject: Voice Dream

RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

Also Mike,
Voice OCR is made by a young man in Canada who released it to the app store 
when he was about 15 or 16.  Left it lie there until he finished college, did a 
rewrite, and seems to have again left it alone.
It is good for some things, but the Voice dream products, Reader and Scanner 
and for me Writer, are great products that everyone should have.
Writer is for just that, writing.  It does TXT files and you can use markup 
language to then export the txt file to RTF or HTML for a formatted document.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Voice Dream Reader is primarily a electronic document reader that is fantastic! 
 It works great with Bookshare or any non-DRM ePub books, word documents, html, 
plain text, pdf, etc.
If it is still $9.99, get it.
If it is already $1999, and you use Bookshare, or other documents, get it 
anyway.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cd5cb33c7441543f4b6b008d8b5a08444%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459048306870662%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=dTNRWDoQuCmVRwWsGd9ewKMlippxrSLvqRr%2FJUo%2FX%2Fs%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Richard,

I currently have Voice OCR and Voice Dream Scanner.  Is Voice Dream Reader part 
of these or, do I need to get the Reader to have the complete package?

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

The scanner will still be available.
Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:
Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cd5cb33c7441543f4b6b008d8b5a08444%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459048306870662%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=dTNRWDoQuCmVRwWsGd9ewKMlippxrSLvqRr%2FJUo%2FX%2Fs%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! I 
wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to give 
people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? Will the 
Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a scanner, and 
not the reader;

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> escribió:

I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have it 
with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any additional 
charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an additional 
charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an additional 
payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name to distinguish 
it from the original one has to be purchased.

I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is added.

Alan Lemly

Sen

RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

Voice Dream Reader is primarily a electronic document reader that is fantastic! 
 It works great with Bookshare or any non-DRM ePub books, word documents, html, 
plain text, pdf, etc.
If it is still $9.99, get it.
If it is already $1999, and you use Bookshare, or other documents, get it 
anyway.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

Richard,

I currently have Voice OCR and Voice Dream Scanner.  Is Voice Dream Reader part 
of these or, do I need to get the Reader to have the complete package?

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

The scanner will still be available.
Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:
Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cd3185fb0ffd24053564d08d8b5964e05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459004443868289%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=wbLdqVDO%2BK7arQ4g1T0FCXX9dalVg6pCdoRLtVTLxQc%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! I 
wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to give 
people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? Will the 
Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a scanner, and 
not the reader;

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> escribió:

I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have it 
with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any additional 
charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an additional 
charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an additional 
payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name to distinguish 
it from the original one has to be purchased.

I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is added.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with 
Outlook<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fqtex0l=04%7C01%7C%7Cd3185fb0ffd24053564d08d8b5964e05%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637459004443878283%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Rxct0MRQO4y31Y1xx5I8IJ8TItFMkmz0%2BEB9zCG6M9g%3D=0>
 for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.
We should find out later today.
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide 

Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Mike B]

Richard,

I currently have Voice OCR and Voice Dream Scanner.  Is Voice Dream Reader 
part of these or, do I need to get the Reader to have the complete package?

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase


The scanner will still be available.

Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:

Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.









Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase



About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! 
I wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to 
give people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? 
Will the Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a 
scanner, and not the reader;



Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





  El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly  
escribió:

  

  I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have 
it with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any 
additional charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an 
additional charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an 
additional payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name 
to distinguish it from the original one has to be purchased.



  I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is 
added.



  Alan Lemly



  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS


--

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
Richard Turner 
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice 
Dream Scanner with a price increase



  You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.

  We should find out later today.

  Richard



  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
when I was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana  wrote:



Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the 
reader part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?

On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

  what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly

To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; idevi...@groups.io

Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM

Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice 
Dream Scanner with a price increase



Hi List,



I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the 
Voice Dream Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include 
the Voice Dream Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from 
$14.99 to $19.99 USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those 
who don't have it is a great price especially considering that scanning will 
be included in it after the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price 
expires but I just checked the App Store and that price was still available. 
If you're interested in getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.



Alan Lemly

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RE: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

The scanner will still be available.
Here again is Winston’s follow-up tweet:
Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! I 
wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to give 
people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? Will the 
Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a scanner, and 
not the reader;

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> escribió:

I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have it 
with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any additional 
charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an additional 
charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an additional 
payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name to distinguish 
it from the original one has to be purchased.

I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is added.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with 
Outlook<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fqtex0l=04%7C01%7C%7Cb22bf5b4e8534730553d08d8b581de84%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637458916669832820%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=SUitvmmjcpkGakxvVYYLHcTbPinaKW%2FiWiXK81qm0SY%3D=0>
 for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.
We should find out later today.
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana mailto:la...@comcast.net>> 
wrote:


Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the reader 
part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?
On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
To: 'VIPhone Email List'<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
idevi...@groups.io<mailto:idevi...@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase


Hi List,



I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.



Alan Lemly
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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Gerardo Corripio]

About time! Especially here in Mexico and throughout Latin America, where 
sometimes blind folks don't have the means to have both, Reader and scanner! I 
wonder though if will the update have a light version of the scanner, to give 
people a taste, to go and buy the stand-alone Voice Dream Scanner app? Will the 
Voice Dream Scaner be still be available for those who only want a scanner, and 
not the reader;


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 10 ene 2021, a la(s) 9:54 a.m., Alan Lemly  escribió:
> 
> 
> I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have it 
> with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any 
> additional charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an 
> additional charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an 
> additional payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name 
> to distinguish it from the original one has to be purchased.
> 
> I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
> getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is added.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Richard Turner 
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
> Scanner with a price increase
>  
> You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
> tweat from Voice Dream. 
> We should find out later today. 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the 
>> reader part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?
>> 
>>> On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>>> what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Alan Lemly
>>> To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; idevi...@groups.io
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
>>> Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
>>> Scanner with a price increase
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>>  
>>> I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice 
>>> Dream Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the 
>>> Voice Dream Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from 
>>> $14.99 to $19.99 USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those 
>>> who don't have it is a great price especially considering that scanning 
>>> will be included in it after the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale 
>>> price expires but I just checked the App Store and that price was still 
>>> available. If you're interested in getting this app, I'd recommend you do 
>>> it now.
>>>  
>>> Alan Lemly
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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Alan Lemly]

I agree with Richard. Those who already have Voice Dream Reader will have it 
with scanning capabilities after they install the update without any additional 
charge. I've never had any app where an update resulted in an additional 
charge. Those apps that have made extensive changes requiring an additional 
payment have all made it clear that the new app which has a name to distinguish 
it from the original one has to be purchased.

I'll go on to say that anyone getting Voice Dream Reader for $9.99 USD is 
getting an excellent deal especially after the update with scanning is added.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase

You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.
We should find out later today.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana  wrote:



Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the reader 
part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?

On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
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idevi...@groups.io<mailto:idevi...@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase


Hi List,



I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.



Alan Lemly

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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

You will get the update without an additional charge is the way I read the 
tweat from Voice Dream.
We should find out later today.

Richard

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On Jan 10, 2021, at 5:47 AM, Lana  wrote:



Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the reader 
part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?

On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
- Original Message -
From: Alan Lemly
To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; 
idevi...@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner 
with a price increase

Hi List,

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
the App Store and that price was still available. If you're interested in 
getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Lana]

Does anyone know how this will affect those of us who already have the 
reader part? I expect there will be an option to pay the difference?


On 1/10/2021 12:48 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?

- Original Message -
*From:* Alan Lemly 
*To:* 'VIPhone Email List'  ;
idevi...@groups.io 
*Sent:* Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
*Subject:* Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include
Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

Hi List,

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating
the Voice Dream Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that
will include the Voice Dream Scanner capabilities in Reader. The
price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 USD. Reader is currently
on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is a great
price especially considering that scanning will be included in it
after the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires
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available. If you're interested in getting this app, I'd recommend
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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Robert Doc Wright]

what about those of us who already have voice dream reader?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: 'VIPhone Email List' ; idevi...@groups.io 
  Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 9:24 PM
  Subject: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream 
Scanner with a price increase


  Hi List,

   

  I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice 
Dream Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice 
Dream Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to 
$19.99 USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't 
have it is a great price especially considering that scanning will be included 
in it after the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I 
just checked the App Store and that price was still available. If you're 
interested in getting this app, I'd recommend you do it now.

   

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Re: Voice Dream Reader being updated Sunday to include Voice Dream Scanner with a price increase

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Alan, I should check twitter more often. There was a follow-up tweat 
that said:

Scanner is still a useful standalone app, for scanning something quickly and 
discard. And for creating accessible PDFs from paper documents or images for 
distribution. Scanning in Voice Dream Reader is meant to create documents 
primarily for use in the Reader app.


Richard

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On Jan 9, 2021, at 8:24 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I received a tweet tonight which was sent earlier today stating the Voice Dream 
Reader has a new update coming out tomorrow that will include the Voice Dream 
Scanner capabilities in Reader. The price will increase from $14.99 to $19.99 
USD. Reader is currently on sale for $9.99 which for those who don't have it is 
a great price especially considering that scanning will be included in it after 
the update. I don't know when the $9.99 sale price expires but I just checked 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader and IOS 14.1

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Rebooting did the trick.
On Nov 4, 2020 3:54 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> It works fine for me with iOS 14.1. 
> Have you rebooted the phone? 
>
>
>
> Richard 
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> Ever since downloading 14.1, Voice Dream Reader is not acting correctly.  I 
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RE: Voice Dream Reader and IOS 14.1

[Richard Turner]

It works fine for me with iOS 14.1.
Have you rebooted the phone?



Richard
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Muccio Weisenborn
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Subject: Voice Dream Reader and IOS 14.1

Ever since downloading 14.1, Voice Dream Reader is not acting correctly.  I 
can't download books, just able to read my current book.  

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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Voice dream reader is totally awesome.

On 10/7/20, 'Danny Keys' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks, That’s good to know. I love VDR.
>
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>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Winston just posted an update to Voice Dream Reader that fixes the search
>> results issue. It is back to normal.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
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Re: Voice Dream Reader update

['Danny Keys' via VIPhone]

Hi,
Thanks, That’s good to know. I love VDR.


> On Oct 7, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Winston just posted an update to Voice Dream Reader that fixes the search 
> results issue. It is back to normal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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RE: voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

You may have to go to the shop tab and then restore purchases.
Also make sure you have selected all voices so the Neospeech voices show up.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Judy 
Holloway
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:33 AM
To: Robert Doc Wright 
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice dream reader


Hi. I use voice dream reader all the time. I purchased the James voice years 
ago, but lately that voice is not listed in my choices. I thought he was gone 
for good. How can I get the James voice back? I certainly would like to be able 
to use this voice again.

Thanks.

Judy
On Aug 26, 2020 10:38 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The onnes listed as iOS voices do not have that feature. I need it because I 
record from voice stream  documents I use for classes I teach on team talk

**
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From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: voice dream reader


There isn’t one particular voice that allows this.

I use Amy from Ivona as my primary voice.

I just sampled an iOS and an Acapella voice and they both honored the extra 
sentence pause.

Perhaps you should write Winston directly and ask which voices do not allow for 
the extra sentence pause.

wins...@voicedream.com<mailto:wins...@voicedream.com>



HTH,





Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: voice dream reader



Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a sentence?

**
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?



Family times where there is fun for every ear!
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Re: voice dream reader

[Judy Holloway]

Hi. I use voice dream reader all the time. I purchased the James voice years ago, but lately that voice is not listed in my choices. I thought he was gone for good. How can I get the James voice back? I certainly would like to be able to use this voice again.
Thanks.
Judy

On Aug 26, 2020 10:38 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

The onnes listed as iOS voices do not have that 
feature. I need it because I record from voice stream  documents I use for 
classes I teach on team talk
 
**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where 
does the learning start?
 
Family times where there is fun for every ear!http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
 
Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneInYou can also find us 
on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for Family times
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: voice dream reader


There isn’t one particular voice that allows 
this.
I use Amy from Ivona as my primary voice.
I just sampled an iOS and an Acapella voice and they both 
honored the extra sentence pause.
Perhaps you should write Winston directly and ask which 
voices do not allow for the extra sentence pause.
winston@voicedream.com
 
HTH,
 

 
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others 
breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only 
grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that 
while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted 
extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Robert Doc 
WrightSent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:37 AMTo: 
viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: voice dream 
reader
 

Which voice do I need 
to get to be able to set the pause level after a 
sentence?

**If we can't 
look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

 

Family times where 
there is fun for every ear!http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 

Or ask your A device to 
play Family times on tuneInYou can also find us on your mobile device 
install OoTunes and search for Family times
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RE: voice dream reader

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I use either James or Tom for my voices of choice.

 

 

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Re: voice dream reader

[Robert Doc Wright]

Thanks for introducing me to James I do like him. I wish I could make him my 
main voice for my iDevices 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: voice dream reader




We use James and I know you can put a pause after sentences using James he’s 
our favorite


If you are an avid reader I have a wonderful book lovers group
 If you love fragrances, I have a wonderful WhatsApp group for fragrance 
lovers. If you love to read Christian fiction, I have a wonderful WhatsApp 
group for Christian fiction lovers and we read books together every two weeks. 
If you are a Christian woman and want to find other Christian women to 
fellowship and pray with you I have an awesome WhatsApp group for that purpose 
as well. Please email me if you’re interested in any of these awesome ways to 
connect and get to know awesome people.


  On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


   
  Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a 
sentence?
  **
  If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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Re: voice dream reader

[Robert Doc Wright]

tell me about your christian fiction group off list.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: voice dream reader




We use James and I know you can put a pause after sentences using James he’s 
our favorite


If you are an avid reader I have a wonderful book lovers group
 If you love fragrances, I have a wonderful WhatsApp group for fragrance 
lovers. If you love to read Christian fiction, I have a wonderful WhatsApp 
group for Christian fiction lovers and we read books together every two weeks. 
If you are a Christian woman and want to find other Christian women to 
fellowship and pray with you I have an awesome WhatsApp group for that purpose 
as well. Please email me if you’re interested in any of these awesome ways to 
connect and get to know awesome people.


  On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


   
  Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a 
sentence?
  **
  If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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Re: voice dream reader

[Robert Doc Wright]

The onnes listed as iOS voices do not have that feature. I need it because I 
record from voice stream  documents I use for classes I teach on team talk

**
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
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Family times where there is fun for every ear!
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: voice dream reader


There isn’t one particular voice that allows this.

I use Amy from Ivona as my primary voice.

I just sampled an iOS and an Acapella voice and they both honored the extra 
sentence pause.

Perhaps you should write Winston directly and ask which voices do not allow for 
the extra sentence pause.

wins...@voicedream.com

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

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Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voice dream reader

 

Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a sentence?

**
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Re: voice dream reader

[Dana Leet]

We use James and I know you can put a pause after sentences using James he’s 
our favorite

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> On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:36 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a 
> sentence?
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> start?
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RE: voice dream reader

[Richard Turner]

There isn’t one particular voice that allows this.
I use Amy from Ivona as my primary voice.
I just sampled an iOS and an Acapella voice and they both honored the extra 
sentence pause.
Perhaps you should write Winston directly and ask which voices do not allow for 
the extra sentence pause.
wins...@voicedream.com

HTH,


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 7:37 AM
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Subject: voice dream reader

Which voice do I need to get to be able to set the pause level after a sentence?
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start?

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
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