Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2017-03-03 Thread Peter Logan 
Yes, the app is accessible ... with the exception of the battery gauge ...

There is a large start button with 2 smaller buttons around it.  I don't recall 
which one was necessary to push for the 980 to begin the pairing process.  One 
of the smaller buttons is for spot cleaning..frankly I never use them.  When 
you get it, and if you have any issues setting up ... you can send me a message 
at pdlloga...@gmail.com 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 12:53 PM, pholdstock <ptrholdst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello and thank you for your help so far. I will be receivimg my roomba 980 
> tomorrow. As I am blind, please could you tell me which order the buttons are 
> in on the robot itself so I know which buttons to press during set up. Many 
> thanks
> 
> 
>  Peter
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Dec 2016, at 00:01, pholdstock <ptrholdst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the 
>> reply I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very 
>> positive :-).
>> 
>>  Dear Mr. Holdstock,
>>  
>> Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
>>  
>> We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
>>  
>> The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple 
>> mobile devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make 
>> it easier to use for the visually impaired people.
>>  
>> I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
>> under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
>> soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
>> technology.
>>  
>> I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and 
>> will help to improve the robot's features even further.
>>  
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Sibin
>> iRobot Customer Care 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
>>> MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and 
>>> my friends love it. LOL!
>>>  
>>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas 
>>> were pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I 
>>> can't speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the 
>>> Neato is, really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! 
>>> When I first downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, 
>>> only the battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two 
>>> versions allow for only the most simple of commands, though, the battery 
>>> status is now viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they 
>>> just need to commit to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re 
>>> this, but found, ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version 
>>> of IOS, would not write in the edit field on their support page! This is an 
>>> IOS problem and not a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept 
>>> the accessibility is something that we need to keep reminding the various 
>>> developers about.  However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too! 
>>> The Neato connected is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing 
>>> one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, without the app and it 
>>> will do its job, you just have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have 
>>> the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing 
>>> the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I 
>>> have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more than 
>>> anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps when 
>>> we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
>>> using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for 
>>> me and I don't really like the Cloud
>>>  
>>> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
>>> certainly, use it, but for full functionality, th

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2017-03-03 Thread pholdstock 
Hello and thank you for your help so far. I will be receivimg my roomba 980 
tomorrow. As I am blind, please could you tell me which order the buttons are 
in on the robot itself so I know which buttons to press during set up. Many 
thanks


 Peter


Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Dec 2016, at 00:01, pholdstock <ptrholdst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the 
> reply I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very 
> positive :-).
> 
>  Dear Mr. Holdstock,
>  
> Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
>  
> We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
>  
> The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple 
> mobile devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make 
> it easier to use for the visually impaired people.
>  
> I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
> under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
> soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
> technology.
>  
> I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and 
> will help to improve the robot's features even further.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Sibin
> iRobot Customer Care 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
>> MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and 
>> my friends love it. LOL!
>>  
>> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
>> pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
>> speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
>> really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I 
>> first downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the 
>> battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow 
>> for only the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now 
>> viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to 
>> commit to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, 
>> ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not 
>> write in the edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and 
>> not a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility 
>> is something that we need to keep reminding the various developers about. 
>> However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected 
>> is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two 
>> buttons. It can be used, without the app and it will do its job, you just 
>> have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my 
>> iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing the battery status on my 
>> 6. Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s 
>> more and more, which is running 9x. more than anything, I wish we could, 
>> easily, revert to previous versions of apps when we discover new 
>> accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, using my iPhone, 
>> independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me and I don't 
>> really like the Cloud
>>  
>> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
>> certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
>> with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is 
>> the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to 
>> maintain, empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than 
>> my own! and, almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it 
>> takes a running jump when it encounters a particularly difficult 
>> threash-hold, going into my porch. And when it gets itself into a tight 
>> place, it is wonderful to see it lift its bottom and try to extract itself, 
>> almost virtically!
>>  
>> I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
>> the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be 
>> aware of VO when putting out app updates.
>&g

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-03 Thread Kevin Chao 
Has anyone tried or know if Roomba or Neato works with voice-control?
e.g. Apple Siri, Google Assistant via IFTTT, and/or Amazon Echo via Alexa
Skills.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 4:35 AM 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> if I can extract it, I shall forward this message to neato, with whom I am
> in communication re  access ability, and see if we can't shame them into a
> proper response.
>
> Sandy
>
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 3 Dec 2016, at 00:04, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from
> Neato Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better
> reviews.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *pholdstock
> *Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>
>
>
> Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the
> reply I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very
> positive :-).
>
>  Dear Mr. Holdstock,
>
>
>
> Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
>
>
>
> We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
>
>
>
> The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple
> mobile devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to
> make it easier to use for the visually impaired people.
>
>
>
> I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App
> is under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform
> you as soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the
> voice-over technology.
>
>
>
> I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and
> will help to improve the robot's features even further.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Sibin
>
> iRobot Customer Care
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape
> an MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family.
> and my friends love it. LOL!
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas
> were pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I
> can't speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the
> Neato is, really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient!
> When I first downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent,
> only the battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two
> versions allow for only the most simple of commands, though, the battery
> status is now viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they
> just need to commit to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re
> this, but found, ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version
> of IOS, would not write in the edit field on their support page! This is an
> IOS problem and not a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept
> the accessibility is something that we need to keep reminding the various
> developers about. However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too!
> The Neato connected is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing
> one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, without the app and it
> will do its job, you just have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have
> the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing
> the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I
> have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more than
> anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps when
> we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer,
> using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for
> me and I don't really like the Cloud
>
>
>
> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we
> can, certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be
> rewritten with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the
> Neato is the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read
> abou

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-03 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
if I can extract it, I shall forward this message to neato, with whom I am in 
communication re  access ability, and see if we can't shame them into a proper 
response.

Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 3 Dec 2016, at 00:04, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from Neato 
> Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better reviews.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> pholdstock
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
> Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the 
> reply I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very 
> positive :-).
> 
>  Dear Mr. Holdstock,
>  
> Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
>  
> We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
>  
> The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple 
> mobile devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make 
> it easier to use for the visually impaired people.
>  
> I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
> under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
> soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
> technology.
>  
> I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and 
> will help to improve the robot's features even further.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Sibin
> iRobot Customer Care 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
> MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and 
> my friends love it. LOL!
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
> pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
> speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
> really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
> downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the 
> battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow 
> for only the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now 
> viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit 
> to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, 
> ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not 
> write in the edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not 
> a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is 
> something that we need to keep reminding the various developers about. 
> However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected 
> is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two 
> buttons. It can be used, without the app and it will do its job, you just 
> have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my 
> iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing the battery status on my 6. 
> Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more 
> and more, which is running 9x. more than anything, I wish we could, easily, 
> revert to previous versions of apps when we discover new accessibility 
> issues. I don't have the use of a computer, using my iPhone, independently, 
> so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me and I don't really like the 
> Cloud
>  
> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
> certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
> with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is 
> the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to 
> maintain, empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than 
> my own! and, almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it 
> takes a running jump when it encounters a particularly difficult 
> threash-hold, going into my porch. And when it gets itself into a tight 
> place, it is wonderful to see it lift its bottom and try to extract itself, 
> almost virtically!
>  
> I would encourage all owne

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-03 Thread Don Breda 

I just set up my friends Roomba 980 yesterday.


I was able to set it up completely without sighted help so that is a big 
plus for roomba.



Some of the buttons on the app could be labeled a bit better but for the 
most part its accessible.



The battery gage is not accessible.


 It also appears as if the status of the roomba may not be accessible 
either but haven't been able to test this completely as yet.


Don
On 02-Dec-16 7:25 PM, pdllogan77 - GMail wrote:

Yes ... the app is very accessible ... and works well ...
*From:* pholdstock <mailto:ptrholdst...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 02, 2016 7:01 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below 
the reply I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. 
Seems very positive :-).


Dear Mr. Holdstock,
Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the 
Apple mobile devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App 
and to make it easier to use for the visually impaired people.
I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home 
App is under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will 
inform you as soon as possible if there is new update particularly of 
the voice-over technology.
I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important 
and will help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,
Sibin
iRobot Customer Care

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net 
<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:


I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will 
tape an MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of 
my family. and my friends love it. LOL!

*From:* 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
Hi,
Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The 
Roombas were pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with 
an app. So, I can't speak to that side of things. I always loved my 
Roombas, but the Neato is, really, a new generation and incredibly 
effective and efficient! When I first downloaded the app, it was 
accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery status was not 
viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only the 
most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. 
This means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit 
to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, 
ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, 
would not write in the edit field on their support page! This is an 
IOS problem and not a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to 
accept the accessibility is something that we need to keep reminding 
the various developers about. However, and I imagine that this 
applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can 
be used, without the app and it will do its job, you just have less 
control over modes etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 
4s, so can do everything, including seeing the battery status on my 
6. Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I have been using my 
4s more and more, which is running 9x. more than anything, I wish we 
could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps when we discover 
new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, using 
my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for 
me and I don't really like the Cloud
In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, 
we can, certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs 
to be rewritten with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to 
say that the Neato is the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I 
have seen or read about, to maintain, empty and find. It has an 
excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, almost, seems 
to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running jump 
when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into 
my porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful 
to see it lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!
I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being 
capable, the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and 
need them to be aware of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:


Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins o

RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-02 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
I agree. I have sent to Rumba customer support response on to the Neato Support 
Team, asking they forward the message to Tier 3. This just might get their 
attention. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from Neato 
Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better reviews.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pholdstock
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care


Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an MP3 
player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kram

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-02 Thread pdllogan77 - GMail 
Yes ... the app is very accessible ... and works well ... 


From: pholdstock 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care 


Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:


  I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

  From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

  Hi,

  Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

  In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

  I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

  Happy hoovering! Sandy. 

  sent from the dark side of the moon

  On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:


Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

 

The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but 
I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

 

I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a response 
direct message from them several hours later thanking me for bringing this to 
their attention, and that they h

RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Certainly a much more encouraging message than the one I received from Neato 
Robotics even though the Neato is less expensive and gets better reviews.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pholdstock
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,

Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.

We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.

The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.

I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.

I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.

Kind regards,

Sibin
iRobot Customer Care


Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie 
<scribbl...@comcast.net<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an MP3 
player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy.

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu<mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>> wrote:
Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but I’m 
still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

I direct message NeatoRob

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-12-02 Thread pholdstock 
Hi. I have just placed an order for a Roomba 980 and please see below the reply 
I received from Irobot regarding accessibility of the app. Seems very positive 
:-).

 Dear Mr. Holdstock,
 
Thank you for contacting the iRobot Customer Care.
 
We are happy to hear that you are interested in our products.
 
The iRobot is aware about the voice-over which is available on the Apple mobile 
devices and we are working to improve the iRobot Home App and to make it easier 
to use for the visually impaired people.
 
I have forwarded your e-mail to our development department. The Home App is 
under constant development and it is updated regularly. I will inform you as 
soon as possible if there is new update particularly of the voice-over 
technology.
 
I would also like to thank you for your feedback, it is very important and will 
help to improve the robot's features even further.
 
Kind regards,
 
Sibin
iRobot Customer Care 


Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 16:53, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an 
> MP3 player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and 
> my friends love it. LOL!
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
> pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
> speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
> really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
> downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the 
> battery status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow 
> for only the most simple of commands, though, the  battery status is now 
> viewable. This means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit 
> to accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, 
> ironically, that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not 
> write in the edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not 
> a Neato one. I suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is 
> something that we need to keep reminding the various developers about. 
> However, and I imagine that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected 
> is usable, at its most basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two 
> buttons. It can be used, without the app and it will do its job, you just 
> have less control over modes etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my 
> iPhone 4s, so can do everything, including seeing the battery status on my 6. 
> Just as an aside, I have found, since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more 
> and more, which is running 9x. more than anything, I wish we could, easily, 
> revert to previous versions of apps when we discover new accessibility 
> issues. I don't have the use of a computer, using my iPhone, independently, 
> so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me and I don't really like the 
> Cloud
>  
> In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
> certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
> with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is 
> the easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to 
> maintain, empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than 
> my own! and, almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it 
> takes a running jump when it encounters a particularly difficult 
> threash-hold, going into my porch. And when it gets itself into a tight 
> place, it is wonderful to see it lift its bottom and try to extract itself, 
> almost virtically!
>  
> I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
> the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be 
> aware of VO when putting out app updates.
>  
> Happy hoovering! Sandy. 
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
>> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
>> products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but 
>> I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could 
>> with better accessibility.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
>>

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-28 Thread Marie 
I have no pets so I named my Neato Willard and keep thinking I will tape an MP3 
player onto the top with dog sounds. He is now a part of my family. and my 
friends love it. LOL!

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 2:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:


  Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

   

  The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but I’m 
still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

   

  I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a response 
direct message from them several hours later thanking me for bringing this to 
their attention, and that they had forwarded the request on to engineering. Of 
course, there’s no guarantee that anything will be done. I’ve made the same 
suggestion through their customer support twice previously without evidence of 
change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out to me, 
companies seem to have different and possibly more impactful representatives on 
their social media streams. I encourage others interested in this to either 
direct message NeatoRobotics, or another avenue of their choice. It’s clearly 
in their interest to address these changes.

   

  Thanks, Keith

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

   

  Hi Don,

   

  Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit 
cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been discussed here 
quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some issues, but it sounds 
from what Shaf said that this is also the case for the Roomba.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf O

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-28 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Hi,

Yes, I have had both Roombas and now a Neato Connected. The Roombas were 
pre the most recent incarnation, thus, not running with an app. So, I can't 
speak to that side of things. I always loved my Roombas, but the Neato is, 
really, a new generation and incredibly effective and efficient! When I first 
downloaded the app, it was accessible up to about 90 percent, only the battery 
status was not viewable. Unfortunately, the last two versions allow for only 
the most simple of commands, though, the battery status is now viewable. This 
means that they can do it, obviously, they just need to commit to 
accessibility. I tried to write them a report re this, but found, ironically, 
that my iPhone 6, running the latest version of IOS, would not write in the 
edit field on their support page! This is an IOS problem and not a Neato one. I 
suppose we just have to learn to accept the accessibility is something that we 
need to keep reminding the various developers about. However, and I imagine 
that this applies to Roomba too! The Neato connected is usable, at its most 
basic level, just by pressing one or other of the two buttons. It can be used, 
without the app and it will do its job, you just have less control over modes 
etc. Luckily, I have the original app on my iPhone 4s, so can do everything, 
including seeing the battery status on my 6. Just as an aside, I have found, 
since IOS 10, I have been using my 4s more and more, which is running 9x. more 
than anything, I wish we could, easily, revert to previous versions of apps 
when we discover new accessibility issues. I don't have the use of a computer, 
using my iPhone, independently, so iTunes backups are not a possibility for me 
and I don't really like the Cloud

In short, speaking for the Neato, not having the latest Roomba, we can, 
certainly, use it, but for full functionality, the app needs to be rewritten 
with accessibility in mind. However, I would like to say that the Neato is the 
easiest of all the Robot Vacuums, that I have seen or read about, to maintain, 
empty and find. It has an excellent navigation system, better than my own! and, 
almost, seems to have its own character!! I love the way it takes a running 
jump when it encounters a particularly difficult threash-hold, going into my 
porch. And when it gets itself into a tight place, it is wonderful to see it 
lift its bottom and try to extract itself, almost virtically!

I would encourage all owners of these divices to contact, IOS being capable, 
the developers to tell them that you are a VIP owner and need them to be aware 
of VO when putting out app updates.

Happy hoovering! Sandy. 

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 27 Nov 2016, at 17:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
> products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
>  
> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but I’m 
> still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
> better accessibility.
>  
> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
> their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a 
> response direct message from them several hours later thanking me for 
> bringing this to their attention, and that they had forwarded the request on 
> to engineering. Of course, there’s no guarantee that anything will be done. 
> I’ve made the same suggestion through their customer support twice previously 
> without evidence of change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark 
> Taylor pointed out to me, companies seem to have different and possibly more 
> impactful representatives on their social media streams. I encourage others 
> interested in this to either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another avenue 
> of their choice. It’s clearly in their interest to address these changes.
>  
> Thanks, Keith
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
> Hi Don,
>  
> Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit 
> cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been discussed 
> here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some issues, but it 
> sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case for the Roomba.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>  
>

Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Shaf Patel 
iRobot have a 30 day returns policy, so if it's not right for you just
return it for a full refund. I think you'll really like it though,
although you can no longer hack the newer models easily via command line.

On 11/27/2016 5:49 PM, Don Breda wrote:
> Thanks for all the answers.
> 
> 
> I wanted to get the neto but with the wifi issues etc. my friend is
> hardly technical so I felt the roomba might be easier for her to operate.
> 
> 
> I am glad the app is mostly accessible.
> 
> 
> Guess we can try it and return it if we don't like it.
> 
> 
> I used a Neato many years ago and was much more impressed with its
> cleaning ability although I thought the Roomba had a bit more inteligence.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately the Neato was quite hard to use and we just couldn't do it
> successfully most of the time so had to return it.
> 
> 
> There was the ability to access the linux shell in the neato through a
> computer but it was kind of a pain and a lot of trouble to go through
> just to try and vacuum successfully grint!
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> On 27-Nov-16 12:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and
>> Neato products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver,
>> but I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as
>> I could with better accessibility.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to
>> make their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I
>> received a response direct message from them several hours later
>> thanking me for bringing this to their attention, and that they had
>> forwarded the request on to engineering. Of course, there’s no
>> guarantee that anything will be done. I’ve made the same suggestion
>> through their customer support twice previously without evidence of
>> change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out
>> to me, companies seem to have different and possibly more impactful
>> representatives on their social media streams. I encourage others
>> interested in this to either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another
>> avenue of their choice. It’s clearly in their interest to address
>> these changes.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks, Keith
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Don,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a
>> bit cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been
>> discussed here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some
>> issues, but it sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case
>> for the Roomba.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
>> *To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> *Subject:* Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Well the subject says it all.
>>
>>  
>>
>> A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum
>> and the app were a good combination.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Don
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Don Breda 

Thanks for all the answers.


I wanted to get the neto but with the wifi issues etc. my friend is 
hardly technical so I felt the roomba might be easier for her to operate.



I am glad the app is mostly accessible.


Guess we can try it and return it if we don't like it.


I used a Neato many years ago and was much more impressed with its 
cleaning ability although I thought the Roomba had a bit more inteligence.



Unfortunately the Neato was quite hard to use and we just couldn't do it 
successfully most of the time so had to return it.



There was the ability to access the linux shell in the neato through a 
computer but it was kind of a pain and a lot of trouble to go through 
just to try and vacuum successfully grint!



Don



On 27-Nov-16 12:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:


Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and 
Neato products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.


The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, 
but I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as 
I could with better accessibility.


I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to 
make their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I 
received a response direct message from them several hours later 
thanking me for bringing this to their attention, and that they had 
forwarded the request on to engineering. Of course, there’s no 
guarantee that anything will be done. I’ve made the same suggestion 
through their customer support twice previously without evidence of 
change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out 
to me, companies seem to have different and possibly more impactful 
representatives on their social media streams. I encourage others 
interested in this to either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another 
avenue of their choice. It’s clearly in their interest to address 
these changes.


Thanks, Keith

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi Don,

Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a 
bit cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been 
discussed here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some 
issues, but it sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case 
for the Roomba.


Regards,

Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

*Subject:* Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Well the subject says it all.

A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum 
and the app were a good combination.


Thanks in advance.

Don

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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Shaf Patel 
I did the same with iRobot (the company that sells Roomba), they said
they'll fix the accessibility issues but haven't bothered for two months.

On 11/27/2016 5:17 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
> Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and
> Neato products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.
> 
>  
> 
> The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver,
> but I’m still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I
> could with better accessibility.
> 
>  
> 
> I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to
> make their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I
> received a response direct message from them several hours later
> thanking me for bringing this to their attention, and that they had
> forwarded the request on to engineering. Of course, there’s no guarantee
> that anything will be done. I’ve made the same suggestion through their
> customer support twice previously without evidence of change in their 2
> recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out to me, companies
> seem to have different and possibly more impactful representatives on
> their social media streams. I encourage others interested in this to
> either direct message NeatoRobotics, or another avenue of their choice.
> It’s clearly in their interest to address these changes.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Keith
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
>  
> 
> Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit
> cheaper and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been
> discussed here quite a bit. I believe the app is accessible with some
> issues, but it sounds from what Shaf said that this is also the case for
> the Roomba.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
> *To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> *Subject:* Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?
> 
>  
> 
> Well the subject says it all.
> 
>  
> 
> A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum
> and the app were a good combination.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
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RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
Yes, and I believe Sandy Tompkins on this list has had both Rumba and Neato 
products, and she seemed to much prefer the Neato.

The neato currently has some app accessibility issues with VoiceOver, but I’m 
still using mine successfully, although not as efficiently as I could with 
better accessibility.

I direct message NeatoRobotics via Twitter on Wednesday asking them to make 
their iPhone app fully VoiceOver enabled for blind users. I received a response 
direct message from them several hours later thanking me for bringing this to 
their attention, and that they had forwarded the request on to engineering. Of 
course, there’s no guarantee that anything will be done. I’ve made the same 
suggestion through their customer support twice previously without evidence of 
change in their 2 recent app upgrades. But, as Mark Taylor pointed out to me, 
companies seem to have different and possibly more impactful representatives on 
their social media streams. I encourage others interested in this to either 
direct message NeatoRobotics, or another avenue of their choice. It’s clearly 
in their interest to address these changes.

Thanks, Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

Hi Don,

Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit cheaper 
and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been discussed here quite a 
bit. I believe the app is accessible with some issues, but it sounds from what 
Shaf said that this is also the case for the Roomba.

Regards,
Sieghard

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To: VIPhone google group 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?


Well the subject says it all.



A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum and the 
app were a good combination.



Thanks in advance.



Don


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RE: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Don,

Make sure you also check the Neato Connected robotic vacuum, it’s a bit cheaper 
and gets much better reviews across the board. It’s been discussed here quite a 
bit. I believe the app is accessible with some issues, but it sounds from what 
Shaf said that this is also the case for the Roomba.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:42 AM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?


Well the subject says it all.



A friend is considering getting one and I wanted to be sure the vacuum and the 
app were a good combination.



Thanks in advance.



Don


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Re: Roomba 980 is the iRobot app accessible?

2016-11-27 Thread Shaf Patel 
Yeah, the app is mostly accessible (scheduling, settings etc).
Inaccessibility: battery and possibly checking the Roomba errors,
although Roomba talks to you so it's no big deal.
On 11/27/2016 12:42 PM, Don Breda wrote:
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