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Giving you something is not taking something from you, though. I don't see that logic. If I am your neighbor, and I know your favorite chocolate bar, and I buy one at a store, come to your house, and put it where you store your candy, are you going to be upset at what I did? This is what Apple did. If you don't want the free gift, don't take it. But why complain?? It just doesn't make sense. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 3:44 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this. I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. Just my 2 cents. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01
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In my iTunes I found it in the album list. This is ensuring that show iTunes in the cloud purchases is checked in the store section of preferences and show music in the cloud is checked in the view menu. I then right click or press the applications key and choose download. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 08:52, Gmail wrote: How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes
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Sorry to come in here but if you are not happy about what Apple does then why be on this list other than to complain! Just my £0.02 worth. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 03:04, DJ wrote: You just can't please some folks. DJ -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I'm not sure what the beef is. If you want it, it's yours. If you don't, just ignore it. I did hear from an Apple representative being interviewed on a TV newscast, that it would be removed after 30 days after the announcement was made at the end of the keynote. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: RE: Where did it come from? John, This is by no means a certainty. When I asked a customer service rep at iTunes today, he said he could not confirm that the album will be removed. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well
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We all got it as part of Apple's Keynote Tuesday. I'm not sure of the reasons but it was generous of them anyway as it would normally be around £8 otherwise. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 11/09/2014 23:11, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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They did not take anything. They didn't do anything without our permission other than doing a mass upload of free music to everyone's account. In no way is this an invasion of anyone's privacy or anything like that. Your example of someone breaking into your house does not apply in this case. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya
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I must say that I consider it taking a liberty on Apple's part in putting material on our devices! Do we own them or Apple? A suspect issue I think. Sent from my iPhone On 12 Sep 2014, at 14:01, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don’t download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it’s still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
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They didn't put it onto your device. You can download it or not. It's your choice. If you don't download it, the free offer will be removed 30 days after it was made available. No muss, no fuss, no problem, no invasion of privacy. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Malcolm Parfitt To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I must say that I consider it taking a liberty on Apple's part in putting material on our devices! Do we own them or Apple? A suspect issue I think. Sent from my iPhone On 12 Sep 2014, at 14:01, Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don’t download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it’s still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
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I found it on my iPhone 5s under music artists, and then the letter U. There it was the first one. Double tapping on U2, I saw the album title and a list of the songs. I could then download any or all the tracks or if I didn't want it, it would be easy enough to delete it. No big deal. I downloaded the album to see if I would like it or not. I didn't so I deleted it and thank you Apple. They could of just as easily have given me the finger. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:18 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? In my iTunes I found it in the album list. This is ensuring that show iTunes in the cloud purchases is checked in the store section of preferences and show music in the cloud is checked in the view menu. I then right click or press the applications key and choose download. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 08:52, Gmail wrote: How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone
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Alan; I couldn't find a away to delete it. I hope I don't have to download it. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I found it on my iPhone 5s under music artists, and then the letter U. There it was the first one. Double tapping on U2, I saw the album title and a list of the songs. I could then download any or all the tracks or if I didn't want it, it would be easy enough to delete it. No big deal. I downloaded the album to see if I would like it or not. I didn't so I deleted it and thank you Apple. They could of just as easily have given me the finger. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:18 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? In my iTunes I found it in the album list. This is ensuring that show iTunes in the cloud purchases is checked in the store section of preferences and show music in the cloud is checked in the view menu. I then right click or press the applications key and choose download. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 08:52, Gmail wrote: How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would
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There is an edit button in the music app. Also, the actions rotor item becomes active when you go to song titles, so you can delete them individually. There might be a way to delete the entire album in one action, but I haven't found it yet. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote: Alan; I couldn't find a away to delete it. I hope I don't have to download it. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: I found it on my iPhone 5s under music artists, and then the letter U. There it was the first one. Double tapping on U2, I saw the album title and a list of the songs. I could then download any or all the tracks or if I didn't want it, it would be easy enough to delete it. No big deal. I downloaded the album to see if I would like it or not. I didn't so I deleted it and thank you Apple. They could of just as easily have given me the finger. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:18 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? In my iTunes I found it in the album list. This is ensuring that show iTunes in the cloud purchases is checked in the store section of preferences and show music in the cloud is checked in the view menu. I then right click or press the applications key and choose download. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 13/09/2014 08:52, Gmail wrote: How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until
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How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from
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Go to itune store on your phone; select music; feature albums; u2; and choose the album. Select download all. It will land on your phone's music app On 13/09/2014, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote: How would I go about downloading this album? I don't use iCloud. At least I haven't done so for quite a while. Thanks, Ari On Sep 12, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory
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Hi, I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this. I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. Just my 2 cents. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other
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I think this was very typical Apple and actually if Steve Jobbs was still around, he would have totally done this as well. He (Steve Jobbs) always said people don't know what they want or need and he basically has to tell them. This is one reason why Apple has never bothered with panels, user groups and so on, they don't ask the consumer what they think their products or services should be like, they create a product or service and tell the consumer that it's exactly what they need. Regards, Sieghardor Apple -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this. I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. Just my 2 cents. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Actually, I like the way my husband put it. It's more like giving someone a key to your house, giving them the permission to use it when they deem fit, and having them leave you a gift. Have you ever seen the iCloud user agreement? It covers this situation. I don't think Apple is your best bet for privacy, unless you don't use iTunes or other Apple services at all. I always figure that the more convenient and interactive a technology is, the more it will affect privacy. Windows does the same sort of thing by giving you all kinds of software you don't necessarily specifically order. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:10 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked
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This is all a tempest in a tea pot. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I think this was very typical Apple and actually if Steve Jobbs was still around, he would have totally done this as well. He (Steve Jobbs) always said people don't know what they want or need and he basically has to tell them. This is one reason why Apple has never bothered with panels, user groups and so on, they don't ask the consumer what they think their products or services should be like, they create a product or service and tell the consumer that it's exactly what they need. Regards, Sieghardor Apple -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this. I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. Just my 2 cents. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite
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Talking about privacy and what to download and install. I recently help a friend to download and install Google Chrome on a pc laptop. Next thing i know, we end up with Google Chrome all right, but we also have Google Sheets, Google Docs, Google Slides, Google Pictures, and Google Drive. Not to say that very annoying Google Toolbar too. So, we ask for 1 but have extra 6 programs/clients for free. I think, everyone need to acknowledge that, as long as you are on the net, there is no 100% privacy. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and basicly you name it, they will collect some sort of user information from you somehow. Doesn't matter you like it or not. That is just the reality of it. Of course, one could argue that you have more control with the Androy platform. But, is that really the case? For me, i don't think so. And that comes from my experience using Androy 4.22, 4.3, and 4.44 platform. On 14/09/2014, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote: This is all a tempest in a tea pot. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:55 AM Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I think this was very typical Apple and actually if Steve Jobbs was still around, he would have totally done this as well. He (Steve Jobbs) always said people don't know what they want or need and he basically has to tell them. This is one reason why Apple has never bothered with panels, user groups and so on, they don't ask the consumer what they think their products or services should be like, they create a product or service and tell the consumer that it's exactly what they need. Regards, Sieghardor Apple -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, I think this all boils down to choice, and the perception of choice. Where Apple took a misstep was n taking away some perceived control from the consumer. It's purely psychological in my opinion. In many ways, being forced to take something you don't want is emotionally similar to having something taken away from you. I agree, realistically, this isn't a big deal, and has little to know tangible effects. But in general, I do think its bad form. I'm actually a bit surprised to see Apple make a mistake with users such as this. I mean, if they just had it as a free download in the iTunes store, and had it on their feature page, none of this would even be an issue. I figured the marketing people at Apple should have seen this coming. Just my 2 cents. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table
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Ok, never had music on my device before, but found this album. I clicked Play, nothing happened. I went down the track list, every button had a Download Blahblahblah, so do I have to download them all before I can play? I know it sounds a stupid question to those that do this all the time, but I thought if an Album was downloaded, it would include the tracks already? Please clarify, been robbed on ring tones already. Thanks, RobH. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Oh, good good, now I understand it better, thanks, will go do that. Though it didn't stop iTunes charging me again for the same ring tone when I changed phone, same identity, just newer phone. £2.99 for a few seconds of sound, which I seldom even use. Rh. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:42 AM Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
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Ok, I have itin my music listing, with previous proviso about downloading the tracks. I went to the about section in settings and it shows No music tracks, which would be right until I download these. So most of my memory remains. Until I do download the tracks, I don't know if I'd then be stuck with them,... so the comment below seems a moot one at the moment unless others that have done all this have further explanations or confirmations and such. Rh. - Original Message - From: Dan Beaver dbeaver...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:20 AM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
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I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
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I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr
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nloaded it. It shows it's there but you have to download the songs. Hey free is good. LOL! I listened to it and although U2 isn't on my favorites list, I've heard far worse so thank you Apple. Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Where did it come from?
Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about
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They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin
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John, This is by no means a certainty. When I asked a customer service rep at iTunes today, he said he could not confirm that the album will be removed. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone
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during the keynote they said it would only be available for a month or so. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: John, This is by no means a certainty. When I asked a customer service rep at iTunes today, he said he could not confirm that the album will be removed. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though
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I interpreted the month's availability to mean that those who already have an iCloud account would receive it, and also anyone who signs up in the next month. If anyone subscribes after that, they won't get the album. I could be mistaken, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 12, 2014, at 1:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote: during the keynote they said it would only be available for a month or so. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: John, This is by no means a certainty. When I asked a customer service rep at iTunes today, he said he could not confirm that the album will be removed. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you
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You just can't please some folks. DJ _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
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I heard that myself. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 4:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? during the keynote they said it would only be available for a month or so. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: John, This is by no means a certainty. When I asked a customer service rep at iTunes today, he said he could not confirm that the album will be removed. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? They really didn't force you into anything. It will go away in a month if you don't download it. On 9/12/14, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called
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Mark, all they did was make it available to people. If they don't want it they don't have to download it and soon it will just go away. I see no problem here accept all of the folks griping about it. DJ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have
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Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We
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Actually, it is more like, you have a mailbox that opens on to the shelf on your wall. Apple placed the album on that shelf. You can take the album from the shelf into your house, or you can leave it. If you leave it, the mail man will remove it in just over a month. No invasion whatsoever. In this case, people are looking for a reason to complain about Apple. Their justifications are extremely thin. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 13 Sep 2014, at 17:08, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mark, but it's their house and not yours. You may have a key for your room, but there probably is something in their terms aand conditions to which you agreed when you downloaded iTunes or created your account which makes it perfectly OK for them to do this. Anyhow, I do find it interesting, I never even wasted a thought on the fact that maybe this could be annoying. They give you the album, it's there for you to download or not. If you set iTunes not to show your cloud purchases unless they are downloaded you will never even see it. OK, that's the last I have to say about it. I did download it and it's actually not a bad album. Apart from that the entire issue is about as pointless as the discussion about Apple downloading new iOS updates to your phone or the one about Apple not allowing you to downgrade to older versions of iOS. Sometimes life just is so unfair and aweful, isn't it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Hello Sieghard, My friend, I agree with you in most aspects of your reply accept one. You stated that if someone gave you a free CD, you would accept it graciously. The key word here is accept. No doubt that you would, as would I. However, that is not what Apple did, What they did is more like : You come home, one evening, open up your locked house, and find that someone broke into your house and placed a CD on your kitchen table without first asking permission to enter your house. It is not the free album that I and others object to but the way in which they delivered it. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? I don't know who Kim is and I guess this is one example where repeating statements from others without checking results in spreading wrong information. When I opened iTunes I did not see the album because I have iTunes set not to show purchases in the cloud. I had to first uncheck that in Settings before I saw the album at which point the album showed up, but I definitely had to download it first. On my phone I also am not showing my iCloud music and the album still is not showing. I manage the music on my phone via iTunes and I sync selected music so until I connect my phone to iTunes and check U2 this will not sync to my phone which means it will not take up a single Bite of space on my phone. I am really surprised how many people are upset with Apple for giving them a free album especially one from a popular band. Yes, not everybody may like U2, but what ever happened to you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If somebody gave me that CD physically as a present I would not bite off their head, but I would thankthem and if I didn't like it I would either give the CD away or throw it in the garbage later. It appears that in about a month this will disappear from people's accounts if you don't download it. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I thought it worked that way too but Kim is reporting that this one is being downloaded automatically and to get it off your device you have to move it to the cloud or somewhere but you can't get it out of ITunes. I am just saying what she is reporting not authenicating her statements. Dan Beaver From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:42 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Where did it come from? Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did
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Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
RE: Where did it come from?
Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don't download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it's still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran mailto:batsfly...@me.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Where did it come from?
I've deleted music before but I can't seem to get rid of it. What should I do? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On 12 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don’t download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it’s still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information
RE: Where did it come from?
Hello Haya, If I understand your question correctly, like me, you want to delete the U2 album from your iCloud storage. Well, the short answer is that you cannot delete it from iCloud unless you are a iTunes Match subscriber. I know this sounds hard to believe but, according to the folks at Apple, it is true. The best we non-iTunes Match subscribers can do is to hide it from our local devices. If you perform a quick Google search you will find that many, many people, like me, took great offense at Apple placing uninvited music in our accounts just so they could manipulate release statistics. The worst part is that we, as non-Match subscribers can’t get rid of it. As I read on the web, someone wrote, “I’ll be damned if I’m going to pay $28 just to delete one album.” Haya, you might try contacting iTunes directly and perhaps they’ll remove it for you. A friend of mine told me that, on October 14th, if you have not downloaded the album, it should be automatically removed from your iCloud account. When it’s all said and done, I think Apple really messed up on this; all they had to do was to simply ask for permission before pushing the album to us. Of course, if they had done that, my guess is that most people would have said no and then they couldn’t call the release the largest release in history. Just keep this in mind the next time you hear Apple boast about how much it values its customer’s right to privacy. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I've deleted music before but I can't seem to get rid of it. What should I do? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On 12 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Music you buy is like apps you buy and it has nothing to do with iTunes. Anyhow, if you don’t download it to your iPhone or other iDevice it takes up no space just like an app you once bought and deleted takes up no space, but it’s still there in your purchase history for you to download if you want it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? Hi, According to Kim Komando Apple did this but once it is in your ITunes you can't get rid of it. And, it is taking up most of the memory on small memory IPhones. Wow am I glad I almost never use ITunes. Dan Beaver From: Teresa Cochran Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where did it come from? I found it amusing to see the schtick Tim Cook pulled with that. It was fun, and while I'm not fanatical about U2, I'll give it a listen. I thought the song that was performed was pretty nice. But hey, if you don't like them, you can remove them. It doesn't count against your iCloud space, though. Teresa We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Don't worry, nothing was hacked. That was a stunt Apple pulled on Tuesday, basically crediting every Apple ID tied to an iOS device with the album. Instead of a code to download it, though, it essentially told iTunes that everyone bought the album. It was free to everyone, and now everyone has it in their purchase history. Surprise! On Sep 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was going through my music and I discovered U2's latest album. I didn't buy it and I have no credit in the iTunes Store. Have I been hacked somehow? Has this happened to Anton else? Where did it come from? Could this have to do with the extra iCloud space I just got? Help! Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important
