RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Samantha is not a Siri voice. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Others may correct me if what I say is wrong. Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri voice. But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC. I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice. That voice is now called Voice 1 for Siri. Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices? Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Same here and I’m still running iOS 15.5 on my iPhone SE 3 and I’ve been noticing lately when I scroll a lot on Facebook, Safari, etc. voiceover says screen curtain on out of the blue. I always keep my screen curtain on but I never really understood why it does that every now and then. > On Jun 6, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Barbara Stahl > wrote: > > This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me > >> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I >> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because >> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no >> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article >> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think >> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear >> the message "screen curtain on". >> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating >> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do >> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on >> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with >> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while >> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. >> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know >> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly >> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug >> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan >> Yates >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen >> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading >> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have >> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and >> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656239A6152944FAF128D85C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. > > -- > The following infor
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
I wasn't asking who spoke all the samples to create the Samantha voice. I asked if anyone still has the list that identifies what the older names were for the Siri voices now called voice 1, voice 2, ETC. All of the Siri voices used to have names like Samantha and Aaron. When trying to choose VoiceOver voices, we cannot be sure the voice we chose is not a Siri voice since the Siri voice is not identified by the same name. Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I believe that the Siri voice is from a person named Susan Bennett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Others may correct me if what I say is wrong. Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri voice. But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC. I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice. That voice is now called Voice 1 for Siri. Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices? Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone li
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
I believe that the Siri voice is from a person named Susan Bennett. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 4:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Others may correct me if what I say is wrong. Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri voice. But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC. I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice. That voice is now called Voice 1 for Siri. Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices? Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > &quo
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
I went ahead and changed the Siri voice to Aaron as well. I guess I'll see if it makes any difference on my end. I will say though, talk about having to get used to it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Rob Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Others may correct me if what I say is wrong. Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri voice. But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC. I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice. That voice is now called Voice 1 for Siri. Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices? Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You rece
Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
OK, I’m using the US English Alex voice exclusively now and so far I have not heard the screen curtain alert Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Donna Casteen wrote: > > Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will > stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & > worked for me. > > DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides > possibly this issue. >> Dan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed >> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on >> >> Have you tried doing a hard reboot? >> Mr. Ed >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Barbara Stahl >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on >> >> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think >> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen >> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and >> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for >> me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no >> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could >> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it >> starts happening too often. >> >>>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >>> >>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Others may correct me if what I say is wrong. Yes, I think Samantha is a Siri voice. But I agree that it's hard to tell because the Siri voices are now labeled Voice 1, Voice 2, ETC. I currently use the Aaron VoiceOver voice. That voice is now called Voice 1 for Siri. Does anyone have a list of the person names for the Siri voices? Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 3:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. > >
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I'm already using the Samantha VoiceOver voice. Unless Samantha is considered a Siri voice? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for thi
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I'll give this a try Thanks, Dan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 2:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & worked for me. DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. > Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > Have you tried doing a hard reboot? > Mr. Ed > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Barbara Stahl > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think > that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen > actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and > the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me > on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no > idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could > always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it > starts happening too often. > >> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my >> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of >> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I >> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, >> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to vip
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I have just updated to iOS 16.5. Even in iOS 15.7, iOS frequently jumps back several screens in both Google Chat and WhatsApp. This happens no matter whether the screen curtain is on or off. It does not jump back the same amount each time. Rob -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear the message "screen curtain on". I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Yates Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? Dan Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656239A6152944FAF128D85C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups
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Sounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides possibly this issue. Dan -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Have you tried doing a hard reboot? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/037301d99897%240773e620%24165bb260%24%40abe.midco.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives f
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Have you tried doing a hard reboot? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/037301d99897%240773e620%24165bb260%24%40abe.midco.net.
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That is definitely an interesting comment and I will try this as I do indeed use a Siri voice. If that fixes the issue I will certainly write to Apple Accessibility since if they allow Siri voices to be used for Voiceover they should make sure something like this is fixed. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Donna Casteen Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Apple says that it is a Siri bug. & suggests that those using a Siri voice for voiceover switch to using a voiceover voice. This should correct the problem, it did for me. Donna > > This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me > >> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I >> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because >> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no >> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article >> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think >> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear >> the message "screen curtain on". >> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating >> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do >> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on >> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with >> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while >> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. >> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know >> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly >> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug >> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan >> Yates >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen >> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading >> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have >> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and >> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
My phone's been doing this since I don't know when. I just figure it was one of those VO quirks that randomly happen. I know it was going on since at least iOS 15.x when all the other extraneous VO chatter really started, but before that, I couldn't say. I'm going to have to pay attention about the being placed at the top of the screen part next time it happens. Off-hand, I don't recall if that's the case on my XR. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Hi Christopher, you should try to work with screen curtain on for an extended period of time and I believe you will find that whenever this happens if you have screen curtain on Voiceover will say "screen curtain on" just as if you were restarting Voiceover. For me clearing the app switcher or restarting the phone does not seem to make a difference or if it dcoes it is short-lived; I have an iPhone 13 Pro. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Once in a great while, I'll have the issue where my focus keeps jumping to the top of the screen. I think it has to do with either an IOS update or changing my TTS voice. Clearing out my App Switcher and restarting the phone always takes care of this for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's
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Apple says that it is a Siri bug. & suggests that those using a Siri voice for voiceover switch to using a voiceover voice. This should correct the problem, it did for me. Donna > > This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me > >> On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I >> think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because >> whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no >> matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article >> or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think >> Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear >> the message "screen curtain on". >> I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating >> with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do >> much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on >> gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with >> screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while >> I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. >> Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know >> if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly >> jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug >> for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan >> Yates >> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on >> >> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen >> curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading >> something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have >> typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and >> to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? >> Dan >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656239A6152944FAF128D85C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that
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This is not just a bug with iOS 16 I have iOS 15.7 and it happens to me > On Jun 6, 2023, at 1:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I > think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because > whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no > matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article > or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think > Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear the > message "screen curtain on". > I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating > with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do > much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on > gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with > screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while I > was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. > Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know > if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly > jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug for > sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan > Yates > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656239A6152944FAF128D85C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2CF8E2EE-9C68-4EA2-B3B0-7AC22259AB74%40gmail.com.
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Hi Christopher, you should try to work with screen curtain on for an extended period of time and I believe you will find that whenever this happens if you have screen curtain on Voiceover will say "screen curtain on" just as if you were restarting Voiceover. For me clearing the app switcher or restarting the phone does not seem to make a difference or if it dcoes it is short-lived; I have an iPhone 13 Pro. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on Once in a great while, I'll have the issue where my focus keeps jumping to the top of the screen. I think it has to do with either an IOS update or changing my TTS voice. Clearing out my App Switcher and restarting the phone always takes care of this for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To vi
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
This seems to be a bug with iOS 16.5 and also still with iOS 16.6 beta. I think what is happening is that there is some sort of brief crash because whenever this happens for me I am kicked back up the top of the page no matter if I was just swipeing through Facebook posts, reading a news article or whatever. This also happens with screen currtain off, but since I think Voiceover briefly crashes and restarts when screen curtain is on you hear the message "screen curtain on". I have been meaning to send this to Apple Accessibilithy and demonstrating with a screen recording, but I am not sure if a screen recording would do much when screen curtain is on; just as a screenshot with screen curtain on gives you an image of a black screen I assume maybe a screen recording with screen curtain on does the same. I tried a few days ago and of course while I was doing the screen rec ording all went normally and this didn't happen. Anyways, I am glad I am not the only one and it would be interesting to know if others experience this or sometimes are surprised that focus suddenly jumps to the top of the page even when screen curtain is off. It is a bug for sure as far as I am concerned; not a dealvbreaker, but quite annoying. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dan Yates Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: My phone announcing Screen curtain on For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? Dan Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656239A6152944FAF128D85C752A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
Once in a great while, I'll have the issue where my focus keeps jumping to the top of the screen. I think it has to do with either an IOS update or changing my TTS voice. Clearing out my App Switcher and restarting the phone always takes care of this for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH0PR14MB42962CA02B978E24E1F0ECDAC84DA%40PH0PR14MB4296.namprd14.prod.outlook.com.
RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
This is a bug report immediately to Apple Accessibility. You could try if your caption panel is on, if so, put it off for me the bug was solved then. Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Dan Yates Verzonden: maandag 5 juni 2023 20:42 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: My phone announcing Screen curtain on For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? Dan Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/014c01d997ee%2428105570%2478310050%24%40gmail.com.
Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying. I think that the particular app is refreshing itself or something. The screen actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and the focus is usually moved to the top of the page. This often happens for me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too. I have no idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with. You could always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it starts happening too often. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates wrote: > > For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen > curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading > something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have > typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to > add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/98E2EBD4-8C82-4149-A01E-D25048767CE2%40gmail.com.
My phone announcing Screen curtain on
For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? Dan Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1DB53577-9231-4FB4-8DCF-D9F51C4563C3%40gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain reader query
Thank you for your advice and your help Alan, i really appreciated. Regards Anthony From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: 11 May 2023 21:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: screen curtain reader query Anthony, If you want to customize any of the gestures used by VoiceOver users, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and Commands and explore the options available there. I like drilling down under All commands where they are grouped by category with their existing settings indicated. You can undo and redo as desired but be cautious about changing anything that is often quoted by other users or you'll find yourself in a state of constant confusion. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On May 11, 2023, at 11:06 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com <mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002501d9842a%24ff1f1420%24fd5d3c60%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002501d9842a%24ff1f1420%24fd5d3c60%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BAF93BEB-A3D9-4E50-A310-7BE7E4AB8136%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BAF93BEB-A3D9-4E50-A310-7BE7E4AB8136%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000601d9848e%246c7faf30%24457f0d90%24%40gmail.com.
Re: screen curtain reader query
Anthony, If you want to customize any of the gestures used by VoiceOver users, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and Commands and explore the options available there. I like drilling down under All commands where they are grouped by category with their existing settings indicated. You can undo and redo as desired but be cautious about changing anything that is often quoted by other users or you'll find yourself in a state of constant confusion. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 11, 2023, at 11:06 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:Hi I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002501d9842a%24ff1f1420%24fd5d3c60%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BAF93BEB-A3D9-4E50-A310-7BE7E4AB8136%40gmail.com.
Re: screen curtain reader query
Hello Anthony, To toggle the screen curtain do a three finger triple tap JODY To Boldly Go thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik Weihenmayer > On May 11, 2023, at 12:06 PM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi > > I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the > screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks in advance > > Anthony > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002501d9842a%24ff1f1420%24fd5d3c60%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2F9BCFBD-CAD4-4C25-B5E0-0A656E78AB5E%40gmail.com.
screen curtain reader query
Hi I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002501d9842a%24ff1f1420%24fd5d3c60%24%40gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain
I agree -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would prevent them from seeing the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565B1A46A6B7CF1CAE0094C7A79%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "
RE: screen curtain
No, as previously mentioned it's a voice over function. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca Sent: February 19, 2023 4:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would prevent them from seeing the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565B1A46A6B7CF1CAE0094C7A79%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list its
RE: screen curtain
If VoiceOver is not running you cannot have Screen Curtain on. Screen Curtain is only available while VoiceOver is active. If you were able to enable Screen Curtain without VoiceOver you would be unable to use your device as you would have no feedback visual or audio. You can however disable speech when VoiceOver is running, useful if you are a Braille user only. Malcolm Parfitt -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca Sent: 19 February 2023 20:01 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would prevent them from seeing the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565B1A46A6B7CF1CAE0094C7A79%40PH7PR12MB56
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Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would prevent them from seeing the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565B1A46A6B7CF1CAE0094C7A79%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.
RE: screen curtain
Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would prevent them from seeing the screen. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Debby Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: screen curtain Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565B1A46A6B7CF1CAE0094C7A79%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
Re: screen curtain
Hi Janet, Probably more brightness... Settings, brightness, screen locked ... Lyne > Le 19 févr. 2023 à 08:42, Debby a écrit : > > please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen > curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't > know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/61C1ACC2-0C8B-4423-ADBF-690F35187307%40gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain
Hi Janet, I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her. On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor. I hope that helps! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Janet Bell Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0c9001d94467%24f5ecd700%24e1c68500%24%40comcast.net.
screen curtain
please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain on and off. she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that makes a difference. I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it didn't work. one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/971aab04-a485-e410-6297-65597b30fd67%40gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain query
This is only so if zoom is running as well. If zoom isn’t running it’s a three finger tripple tap for screen curtain and a three finger double tap to mute speech. Chris Judge <https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthonyborg...@gmail.com Sent: October 8, 2022 10:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain query Hi To turn off screen curtain it is a 3 fingers quadruple tap, the 3 fingers triple tap it is to turn off or on the screen speech. Best Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004d01d8db18%24c8bbf990%245a33ecb0%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004d01d8db18%24c8bbf990%245a33ecb0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/019e01d8db33%246dbd7ee0%2449387ca0%24%40gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain query
Sorry, Anthony, that is incorrect information. Tapping 4 times with 3 fingers (3-finger quadruple tap) copies whatever Voiceover last said to the clipboard To turn screen curtain on or off you tap 3 times with 3 fingers (3-finger triple tap) To mute or unmute speech you tap 2 times with 3 fingers (3-finger double tap). Keep in mind this simply mutes speech, it does not turn Voiceover off. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthonyborg...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain query Hi To turn off screen curtain it is a 3 fingers quadruple tap, the 3 fingers triple tap it is to turn off or on the screen speech. Best Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004d01d8db18%24c8bbf990%245a33ecb0%24%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004d01d8db18%24c8bbf990%245a33ecb0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62450B54C959C37CF8EF789AC75E9%40DS0PR10MB6245.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.
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Hi To turn off screen curtain it is a 3 fingers quadruple tap, the 3 fingers triple tap it is to turn off or on the screen speech. Best Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/004d01d8db18%24c8bbf990%245a33ecb0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: screen curtain query
You use 3 fingers to triple tap to turn screen curtain on and off. On 10/7/22, Afik Souffir wrote: > 3 fingers triple tap. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > anthonyborg...@gmail.com > Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 7:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: screen curtain query > > Hi > > Can somebody explain to me which it is the simple way to turn off the screen > curtain because i tried many times to do it by four fingers four taps and i > didn't managed to do it. > I also asked siri to do it for me but it can't do it either. > I'm using se, first gen. > Thanks in advance > > Anthony > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc6d29f5a2661440639fc08daa877ef93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638007530318493953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=n885rmBH8xDouPYE5pF7BC2Fn0V3kOYFsU0MkqjBkPE%3D=0> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/015b01d8da69%245bdd7150%24139853f0%24%40gmail.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F015b01d8da69%25245bdd7150%2524139853f0%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=05%7C01%7C%7Cc6d29f5a2661440639fc08daa877ef93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638007530318493953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=W4P3RAUkmrUbGNpvK95AgovCrrOi9hCDFfe2xv87qGY%3D=0>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR11MB67854435BF3F3A6D66CD4055855F9%40MW4PR11MB6785.namprd11.prod.outlook.com. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAOUKxk0pAwEzsiz2QDUrXmbdxqTyTfMi5AA9Sg%3D5eYBzjZDUEg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: screen curtain query
3 fingers triple tap. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of anthonyborg...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 7:25 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: screen curtain query Hi Can somebody explain to me which it is the simple way to turn off the screen curtain because i tried many times to do it by four fingers four taps and i didn't managed to do it. I also asked siri to do it for me but it can't do it either. I'm using se, first gen. Thanks in advance Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc6d29f5a2661440639fc08daa877ef93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638007530318493953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=n885rmBH8xDouPYE5pF7BC2Fn0V3kOYFsU0MkqjBkPE%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/015b01d8da69%245bdd7150%24139853f0%24%40gmail.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F015b01d8da69%25245bdd7150%2524139853f0%2524%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=05%7C01%7C%7Cc6d29f5a2661440639fc08daa877ef93%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638007530318493953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=W4P3RAUkmrUbGNpvK95AgovCrrOi9hCDFfe2xv87qGY%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR11MB67854435BF3F3A6D66CD4055855F9%40MW4PR11MB6785.namprd11.prod.outlook.com.
screen curtain query
Hi Can somebody explain to me which it is the simple way to turn off the screen curtain because i tried many times to do it by four fingers four taps and i didn't managed to do it. I also asked siri to do it for me but it can't do it either. I'm using se, first gen. Thanks in advance Anthony -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/015b01d8da69%245bdd7150%24139853f0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Richard, thanks for this. You learn something new all the time. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the > VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple > tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings. > > I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad... > > > Richard > > > My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les > Kriegler > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off > > Hi Richard, > > Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and > off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of > these. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner >> wrote: >> >> Do they also use Zoom? >> If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a >> triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. >> Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe >> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster >> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget >> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's >> too late." >> >> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to >> Paul) >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >>>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >>> >>> Hi Fanus, >>> >>> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You >>> could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover >>> practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect >>> the gesture. >>> >>> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >>> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >>> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >>> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >>> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >>> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >>> area is pretty far down the screen. >>> >>> I hope that helps! >>> >>> Take care and stay safe! >>> >>> Debby >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Fanus Buys >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >>> >>> Hello list >>> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three >>> finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I >>> can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not >>> help. Is there an alternative? >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6255
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Except when,, as he wrote, Zoom is on. On 12/04/2022 19:50, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Do they also use Zoom? If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. Richard "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late." Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to Paul) My web site: https://www.turner42.com On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: Hi Fanus, I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is pretty far down the screen. I hope that helps! Take care and stay safe! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hello list A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this disc
RE: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings. I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad... Richard My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Do they also use Zoom? > If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a > triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. > Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. > > > > Richard > "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe > nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and > faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a > precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too > late." > > Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to > Paul) > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >> >> Hi Fanus, >> >> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could >> go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. >> Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. >> >> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >> area is pretty far down the screen. >> >> I hope that helps! >> >> Take care and stay safe! >> >> Debby >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus >> Buys >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >> >> Hello list >> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger >> tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not >> find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is >> there an alternative? >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for th
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Hi Richard, Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of these. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Do they also use Zoom? > If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a > triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. > Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. > > > > Richard > "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe > nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and > faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a > precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too > late." > > Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to > Paul) > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: >> >> Hi Fanus, >> >> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could >> go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. >> Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. >> >> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by >> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once >> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. >> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose >> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use >> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap >> area is pretty far down the screen. >> >> I hope that helps! >> >> Take care and stay safe! >> >> Debby >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus >> Buys >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off >> >> Hello list >> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger >> tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not >> find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is >> there an alternative? >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. > > -- > The following info
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Do they also use Zoom? If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off. Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. Richard "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late." Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to Paul) My web site: https://www.turner42.com > On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby wrote: > > Hi Fanus, > > I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could > go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. > Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. > > If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by > going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once > on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. > Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the > one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will > be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is > pretty far down the screen. > > I hope that helps! > > Take care and stay safe! > > Debby > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus > Buys > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off > > Hello list > A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger > tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not > find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is > there an alternative? > Regards > Fanus > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8E0BC591-C3DF-4CF5-90B1-342F84644EA4%40comcast.net.
RE: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Hi Fanus, I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap area is pretty far down the screen. I hope that helps! Take care and stay safe! Debby -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fanus Buys Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off Hello list A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d84e6d%241c97ecb0%2455c7c610%24%40comcast.net.
Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Use a Bluetooth keyboard and press control-option-shift-f11. > On Apr 12, 2022, at 8:40 AM, Fanus Buys wrote: > > Hello list > A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger > tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not > find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is > there an alternative? > Regards > Fanus > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DED84DF0-803E-435E-A751-A90346809D40%40gmail.com.
Alternative for turning screen curtain off
Hello list A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is there an alternative? Regards Fanus -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/625564f8.1c69fb81.66709.ea35%40mx.google.com.
Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
Hello Richard I live in Ashford Kent UK. You may find the following Apple Support page of interest re Screen Curtain with VoiceOver for your Mac etc <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201443>. I went to the Apple store at Bluewater and tried an Apple Watch Series 6. 1st Apple Watch that I have tried. Very impressed with it and hope to get one very soon. I am also interested in the NaviLens technology. Michael Hamilton Hunter On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 04:56, Richard Turner wrote: > Simon, I only wanted to know the answer to what I asked, and I got that > answer. > Thanks, > > > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - > Edward Herbert > > On Oct 9, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > > > What is it you’re actually wanting to know? > > > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Richard Turner > *Sent:* Saturday, 10 October 2020 5:15 am > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain? > > > > I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about > accessibility, I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. > > Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. > > Thanks, > > > > > > Richard > > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - > Edward Herbert > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846165074%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=8uviXYW3TK77FaOC3OWJwG5sBAacpc9aG3VKXMDqczw%3D=0> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%2540MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846165074%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=P5Vvy9ZgrqPkJLBxpmtM%2BBmFJS2CzImILWzDv1NEJYw%3D=0> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846175069%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Gasnfpqc1WHufF7%2FDIPNZZOtYJHr5dTqgRf3iQLHqqY%3D=0> > --- > You received t
Re: To Richard Regarding Screen Curtain on Apple Watch
I am so glad I had mine turned off when I tried to update my watch to 7 because it would not talk and apple accessibility wouldn't have been able to help had the screen curtain been on. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Shirley Baker wrote: > > Richard and anyone else who cares, you can find screen curtain by going to > the watch app on your phone, go to settings, double tap on accessibility, > voice over and swipe right and it is one swipe to the right after it says > raise to wake. > > Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/481CE23E-0D1D-4542-800F-2EE0F0C3BBDD%40comcast.net.
Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
Simon, I only wanted to know the answer to what I asked, and I got that answer. Thanks, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Oct 9, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: What is it you’re actually wanting to know? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, 10 October 2020 5:15 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain? I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about accessibility, I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. Thanks, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846165074%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=8uviXYW3TK77FaOC3OWJwG5sBAacpc9aG3VKXMDqczw%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%2540MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846165074%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=P5Vvy9ZgrqPkJLBxpmtM%2BBmFJS2CzImILWzDv1NEJYw%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846175069%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Gasnfpqc1WHufF7%2FDIPNZZOtYJHr5dTqgRf3iQLHqqY%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40482A5DDACB9FACFF4381D98A090%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FSYCPR01MB40482A5DDACB9FACFF4381D98A090%2540SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=04%7C01%7C%7C6acfdf807d25425c85be08d86cc4d0a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378939846175069%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC
RE: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
What is it you’re actually wanting to know? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, 10 October 2020 5:15 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain? I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about accessibility, I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. Thanks, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40482A5DDACB9FACFF4381D98A090%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
Richard, I have the screen curtain on with my series five and like on the phone, voiceover sees and reads everything with no problem. It just keeps others from seeing your screen. Marie From: Shirley Baker Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 10:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain? Yes, it does Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote: I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about accessibility, I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. Thanks, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9209B36D-8E03-4D8A-A351-9AC340D3A317%40comcast.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/D7396EB796764CC1AC322D88A8FE9A04%40LAPTOPUCP1S06N.
RE: To Richard Regarding Screen Curtain on Apple Watch
Thanks Shirley. I amy end up not using it so my wife can quickly look at my watch when she wants, but good to know it is there. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Shirley Baker Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: To Richard Regarding Screen Curtain on Apple Watch Richard and anyone else who cares, you can find screen curtain by going to the watch app on your phone, go to settings, double tap on accessibility, voice over and swipe right and it is one swipe to the right after it says raise to wake. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0e023f642c624394bc7908d86c8732e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378675209619578sdata=uX0NDXZG124z9j2ejRtFkoFEyjlS1sAA5MnCxEOtNR0%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FB8A617BD-F196-4889-9915-79E8B8D845A1%2540comcast.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0e023f642c624394bc7908d86c8732e7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378675209629575sdata=iyBkgdiF2QhEV1aVKJwhh0nuqCImWauDeLNttvNjNNM%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB19812EBF90EA25484297C50BB7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
To Richard Regarding Screen Curtain on Apple Watch
Richard and anyone else who cares, you can find screen curtain by going to the watch app on your phone, go to settings, double tap on accessibility, voice over and swipe right and it is one swipe to the right after it says raise to wake. Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B8A617BD-F196-4889-9915-79E8B8D845A1%40comcast.net.
Re: Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
Yes, it does Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > I’m reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn’t about accessibility, > I thought I’d ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. > Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. > Thanks, > > > Richard > "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass > himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient > hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not > granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward > Herbert > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9209B36D-8E03-4D8A-A351-9AC340D3A317%40comcast.net.
Does Apple Watch use Screen Curtain?
I'm reading Apple Watch for Dummies, and since it isn't about accessibility, I thought I'd ask here about Screen Curtain on the watch. Probably defeats the point of having a clockface, but mostly just curious. Thanks, Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981FCC44FE113715E440839B7080%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Turning screen curtain off?
Yes but only as I got to them, However I’m not talking about siri I’m meaning the voice controls or commands that is a newer feature in the ios platform. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2020 11:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Simon, did you read the conversation since the begining... Lyne Le 3 mai 2020 à 05:23, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> a écrit : Actually what about a voice command, Would it be possible to set a voice command that she could say and have it turn the curtain off. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also on Applevis. Best of luck to you. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote: Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
JustWonderin': Mr.Richard, Have you (personally) Tested TheClaim, that Apple's iOS Feature, VoiceControl actually works on The6S LineUp as Well as the (original) SE? At 08:35 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Yes, but it works better on the newer devices with the faster processors. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Robin wrote:  Hey Mr.Richard, Does the VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS Devices, which are capable of running Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? Blessin'sAgain At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FVoiceControlCommandsList.docx=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625459539=WfeDjyPiRjxzXF%2FDnxy%2BaqS4MV8%2F2Gz90Q%2BFf0I4Ns0%3D=0>http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit :  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit :  Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote:  Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: <mailto:li...@damorris.com>Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime <mailto:a...@damorris.com>a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625469522=YwOLmUXy9Ui3V8lZ09FPdmNDz5%2Fe26Uc%2BSDWQsSVdls%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625474518=9Q3%2BCTM33JXj5xv27bt%2BOTDRA8VXx2LZ%2FueLnWNOLV0%3D=0>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that
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Not to Derail ThisThread, but Can't Apple'sSiri Turn ON & OFF WiFi? & If Apple'sSiri can Do That, Then it should Be Able to Turn ON & OFF a Feature Built InTo iOS, Like VoiceOver's ScreenCurtain. JustSayin Thanks ForEnlightenin' Those of "us" on ThisThread, it's MuchAppreciated! At 08:04 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Hi Robin and everyone ,Robin, SIRI can't acctivate the Screen Curton off and on. Siri can acctivate VoiceOver or diacctivate Voice Over only. × ×©×œ×— מה-iPhone שלי ‫ב-3 ×‘×ž× ×™ 2020, בשעה 5:51, ††Robin †כתב/×”:‬  Hey Mr.Richard, Does the VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS Devices, which are capable of running Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? Blessin'sAgain At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' <http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx>http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit :  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit :  Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote:  Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: <mailto:li...@damorris.com>Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime <mailto:a...@damorris.com>a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209515803=Oa3YZcll9xvbJyLUpEwCYdV3mLs9DpBHqPz9LpXkqq0%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209525800=Fd6ca%2Fk00xKKwxwmeEXmkZfCxln00eS4k02lEeg1q6M%3D=0>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator
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They are all in the Voice Control area in Accessibility settings. I have not run across another list in one place. During the beta last year, I just went through each section, took a screen shot, ran them through Voice Dream Scanner and edited it all into that document. I put other lists with the VoiceOver gestures, braille commands, etc on my web site. No guarantees that I got everything, but they are at www.turner42.com I'm glad you found find that helpful. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 3, 2020, at 4:27 AM, "ann...@sbcglobal.net" wrote: Richard, This is an awesome list. Where do you find something like it? Thx, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FVoiceControlCommandsList.docx=02%7C01%7C%7C2057aa11fc1e417bba4d08d7ef54e9e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637241020282532812=qbRtX7tIJLVt62wQEe931qNH3AYQKXiVwoSUf2ofKAE%3D=0> Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2057aa11fc1e417bba4d08d7ef54e9e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637241020282542808=JBAsevhcffezarQafCeM773T6JVQbQJ1unGXSWI2ags%3D=0> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>" mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> a écrit : If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2057aa11fc1e417bba4d08d7ef54e9e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637241020282542808=JBAsevhcffezarQafCeM773T6JVQbQJ1unGXSWI2ags%3D=0> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com<mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>" mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C2057aa11fc1e417bba4d08d7ef54e9e6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637241020282542808=DzxJbcFLcQHhxuYi6atMAa7JKxF7m98R7HeTx%2BS4H%2BY%3D=0> --- You received this messa
Finding information about iPhone commands was Turning screen curtain off?
Richard, This is an awesome list. Where do you find something like it? Thx, From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com <mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> " mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > a écrit : If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com <mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> " mailto:l.d.ethie...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris <mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com <mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209515803=Oa3YZcll9xvbJyLUpEwCYdV3mLs9DpBHqPz9LpXkqq0%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com <https://eur04.safelinksprotection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209525800=Fd6ca%2Fk00xKKwxwmeEXmkZfCxln00eS4k02lEeg1q6M%3D=0> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for thi
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Simon, did you read the conversation since the begining... Lyne > Le 3 mai 2020 à 05:23, Simon A Fogarty a écrit : > > > Actually what about a voice command, > > Would it be possible to set a voice command that she could say and have it > turn the curtain off. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Michael Feir > Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? > > Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, > there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri > isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains > connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into > the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to > some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be > easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last > Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also > on Applevis. Best of luck to you. > On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris wrote: > Hi all, > Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen > curtain on. > Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? > TIA. > > > > -- > > Adam Morris > Email, iMessage & FaceTime > a...@damorris.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. > -- > Michael Feir > Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition > http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 > Twitter: mfeir > Skype: michael-feir > Check out my blog at: > http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40484931199E8AAD424100308AA90%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com. -- The
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Did you not read the original email Age and dexterity are an issue. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 11:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off? Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work just as well. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com<https://groups.google.c
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Actually what about a voice command, Would it be possible to set a voice command that she could say and have it turn the curtain off. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also on Applevis. Best of luck to you. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris mailto:li...@damorris.com>> wrote: Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB40484931199E8AAD424100308AA90%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
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Hi Adam, Is there anything within the mobility settings under accessibility on the device Such as the assistive touch that might help the person out? Or can siri switch screen curtain off / on? It didn’t like it when I tried but then I may have used the wrong term. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2020 10:20 PM To: viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB404825EBD3E6A4013D4C74818AA90%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
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You can, of course, use Siri to turn voice control on - and, when you’re finished, give the voice control command Turn off voice control, then give the command Tap Execute and you are back to normal! Harry > On 3 May 2020, at 03:47, Robin wrote: > > Interesting Thread: > I'll StayTuned > > To Answer YourQuestion, I (Think) ThatPerson meant VoiceControl, which was > Released in Apple's iOS13, But am unsure if the VoiceControl is "available" > to All the iOSDevices that is Capable of running Apple's iOS13. > & > I'm interested to "know" if Apple's Siri can Activate or Toggle VoiceOver's > ScreenCurtain ON & OFF, Like Samsung's Bixby can Do with VoiceAssistant's > DarkScreen on Galaxy MobilePhones, which operates on Samsung's 1UI & > Google'sAndroid > > Blessin's to All on ThisThread > > At 06:36 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: >> Hello, >> Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? >> If yes, in french it doesn't work. >> If not, give me more explanation please. >> >> Lyne >> >>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a >>> écrit : >>> >>>  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and >>> the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. >>> If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, >>> it just stops you from enjoying the good." >>> >>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 >>> www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>>> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>  Hello, >>>> Can you give more informations how to do it? >>>> >>>> Lyne >>>> >>>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >>>>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>  >>>>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once >>>>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, >>>>> you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>>>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Adam Morris >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM >>>>>> To: viPhone >>>>>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >>>>>> screen curtain on. >>>>>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >>>>>> TIA. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam Morris >>>>>> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >>>>>> a...@damorris.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
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Yes, but it works better on the newer devices with the faster processors. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Robin wrote: Hey Mr.Richard, Does the VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS Devices, which are capable of running Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? Blessin'sAgain At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FVoiceControlCommandsList.docx=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625459539=WfeDjyPiRjxzXF%2FDnxy%2BaqS4MV8%2F2Gz90Q%2BFf0I4Ns0%3D=0> Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625464532=zZLXV286rvb9rdg55hK%2BnJlUB5cNcDiF9C5OBeJK3Lw%3D=0> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit :  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625464532=zZLXV286rvb9rdg55hK%2BnJlUB5cNcDiF9C5OBeJK3Lw%3D=0> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit :  Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote:  Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625469522=YwOLmUXy9Ui3V8lZ09FPdmNDz5%2Fe26Uc%2BSDWQsSVdls%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Cfe54025fdd3c42245f8d08d7ef0cd0f6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240710625
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hi Robin and everyone ,Robin, SIRI can't acctivate the Screen Curton off and on. Siri can acctivate VoiceOver or diacctivate Voice Over only. נשלח מה-iPhone שלי > ב-3 במאי 2020, בשעה 5:51, Robin כתב/ה: > > Hey Mr.Richard, > > Does the VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS > Devices, which are capable of running Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & > iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? > > Blessin'sAgain > At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: >> Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice >> Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. >> It was introduced in iOS 13. >> ' >> http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx >> >> >> Richard >> >> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, >> it just stops you from enjoying the good." >> >> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 >> www.turner42.com >> >> >>> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>> wrote: >>> >>>  Hello, >>> Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? >>> If yes, in french it doesn't work. >>> If not, give me more explanation please. >>> >>> Lyne >>> >>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" >>>> and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. >>>> If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, >>>> it just stops you from enjoying the good." >>>> >>>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 >>>> www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>  Hello, >>>>> Can you give more informations how to do it? >>>>> >>>>> Lyne >>>>> >>>>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>>>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once >>>>>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, >>>>>> you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. >>>>>> Harry >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>  >>>>>>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Adam Morris >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM >>>>>>> To: viPhone >>>>>>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >>>>>>> screen curtain on. >>>>>>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >>>>>>> TIA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam Morris >>>>>>> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >>>>>>> a...@damorris.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>>>
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hey Mr.Richard, Does the VoiceControl from Apple's iOS13 Extend to All of Apple's iOS Devices, which are capable of running Apple's iOS13 From Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ & iPhoneSE to the 11 Series of Apple's iPhone? Blessin'sAgain At 06:52 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' <http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx>http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit :  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit :  Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote:  Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: <mailto:li...@damorris.com>Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime <mailto:a...@damorris.com>a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209515803=Oa3YZcll9xvbJyLUpEwCYdV3mLs9DpBHqPz9LpXkqq0%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209525800=Fd6ca%2Fk00xKKwxwmeEXmkZfCxln00eS4k02lEeg1q6M%3D=0>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209535796=dr50%2FLzduEzCwhOx7oTaKo43kQMHg%2FDdcJfWtIY0D3M%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Interesting Thread: I'll StayTuned To Answer YourQuestion, I (Think) ThatPerson meant VoiceControl, which was Released in Apple's iOS13, But am unsure if the VoiceControl is "available" to All the iOSDevices that is Capable of running Apple's iOS13. & I'm interested to "know" if Apple's Siri can Activate or Toggle VoiceOver's ScreenCurtain ON & OFF, Like Samsung's Bixby can Do with VoiceAssistant's DarkScreen on Galaxy MobilePhones, which operates on Samsung's 1UI & Google'sAndroid Blessin's to All on ThisThread At 06:36 PM 5/2/2020, you wrote: Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit :  If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote:  Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit :  Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote:  Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: <mailto:li...@damorris.com>Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime <mailto:a...@damorris.com>a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415273764=YJ%2FbjVEK7yOTZZqO2eyddbFfcZ%2F%2Fv6Tm61Fdt2jjsqA%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415273764=ghjvnFOlxECYWzZg2YLqs0qb4gU5P5uqvFmE8fm5GhY%3D=0>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415283765=R7zpsdzr8bOqwh2ArsFeUVXD5Bnekm%2BnmitFJ90va%2Bo%3D=0>http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit <htt
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Great! I'll take a look! Lyne > Le 2 mai 2020 à 21:52, Richard Turner a écrit : > > > Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice > Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. > It was introduced in iOS 13. > ' > http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > >>> On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>> wrote: >>> >> Hello, >> Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? >> If yes, in french it doesn't work. >> If not, give me more explanation please. >> >> Lyne >> >>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit >>> : >>> >>> If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and >>> the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. >>> If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, >>> it just stops you from enjoying the good." >>> >>> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 >>> www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>>> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Can you give more informations how to do it? >>>> >>>> Lyne >>>> >>>>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >>>>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once >>>>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, >>>>> you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Adam Morris >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM >>>>>> To: viPhone >>>>>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >>>>>> screen curtain on. >>>>>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >>>>>> TIA. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam Morris >>>>>> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >>>>>> a...@damorris.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>>> >>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>>>> list. >>>>>> >
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Here is a link to a document I put together to try and show all the Voice Control commands. Voice Control has nothing to do with Siri. It was introduced in iOS 13. ' http://www.turner42.com/VoiceControlCommandsList.docx Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 6:37 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote: Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit : If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote: Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209515803=Oa3YZcll9xvbJyLUpEwCYdV3mLs9DpBHqPz9LpXkqq0%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209525800=Fd6ca%2Fk00xKKwxwmeEXmkZfCxln00eS4k02lEeg1q6M%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6cc43490a7174d78f7b008d7ef027980%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240666209535796=dr50%2FLzduEzCwhOx7oTaKo43kQMHg%2FDdcJfWtIY0D3M%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.co
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hello, Do you mean Siri when you said voice control? If yes, in french it doesn't work. If not, give me more explanation please. Lyne > Le 2 mai 2020 à 18:04, Richard Turner a écrit : > > If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the > screen curtain will toggle between on and off. > If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. > > > Richard > Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it > just stops you from enjoying the good." > > Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 > www.turner42.com > > >>> On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" >>> wrote: >>> >> Hello, >> Can you give more informations how to do it? >> >> Lyne >> >>> Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone >>> a écrit : >>> >>> >>> Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once >>> voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you >>> can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. >>> Harry >>> >>>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. >>>> >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Adam Morris >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM >>>> To: viPhone >>>> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >>>> screen curtain on. >>>> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >>>> TIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Adam Morris >>>> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >>>> a...@damorris.com >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
This thread began because her friend has mobility issues and can not perform the three finger triple tap! Marie -Original Message- From: Carolyn Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off? Just triple-tap with three fingers for on or off - a toggle. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris <mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com <mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
RE: Turning screen curtain off?
Just triple-tap with three fingers for on or off - a toggle. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris <mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com <mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searche
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
If you have Voice Control turned on, Say "voiceOver Screen Curtain" and the screen curtain will toggle between on and off. If its on, it will turn off; if off, then on. Richard Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good." Sent with the iPhone SE 2020 www.turner42.com On May 2, 2020, at 2:40 PM, "l.d.ethie...@gmail.com" wrote: Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a écrit : Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415273764=YJ%2FbjVEK7yOTZZqO2eyddbFfcZ%2F%2Fv6Tm61Fdt2jjsqA%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415273764=ghjvnFOlxECYWzZg2YLqs0qb4gU5P5uqvFmE8fm5GhY%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415283765=R7zpsdzr8bOqwh2ArsFeUVXD5Bnekm%2BnmitFJ90va%2Bo%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%2540DaveTOSH%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C8e94e75820a44f1e64ab08d7eee17607%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240524415283765=mpA5TsE3hSYitA880Gx7quYkQmlYx8nc5he%2BdOfVdlU%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Yo
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hello, Can you give more informations how to do it? Lyne > Le 2 mai 2020 à 07:38, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone a > écrit : > > > Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice > control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give > a command to turn screen curtain on or off. > Harry > >>> On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: >>> >> >> Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. >> >> Dave. >> >> >> From: Adam Morris >> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM >> To: viPhone >> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? >> >> Hi all, >> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >> screen curtain on. >> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >> TIA. >> >> >> -- >> >> Adam Morris >> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >> a...@damorris.com >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/48036443-FA8D-4602-BE41-2FDB1EB80CF6%40gmail.com.
RE: Turning screen curtain off?
Reggie, Have you tried putting the onscreen keyboard into caps lock since you set up that gesture? Now in iOS 13, you need a one finger quadruple tap to activate caps lock. I’m curious if your gesture overrides that one. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina alvarado Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? You can also set up another gesture that is not being used by one of the iPhone gestures to do the three finger triple tap for the screen curtain. I used one finger quadruple tap. Reggie Alvarado On May 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Mitch, A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain. The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off? Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work just as well. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C3e56ef22894b4a24428c08d7eea94cbc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240283205801893=zxS%2BGJOvJ0JedIpD%2B98JqcSwnjnqWe1XjKuKpUdEauI%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7C3e56ef22894b4a24428c08d7eea94cbc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240283205811896=6rv18dRWxzFQXyQyygycVH8oB0tzY4wFvU5l5LuTibo%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.e
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
You can also set up another gesture that is not being used by one of the iPhone gestures to do the three finger triple tap for the screen curtain. I used one finger quadruple tap. Reggie Alvarado On May 2, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Mitch, A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain. The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off? Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work just as well. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone wrote: Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com. -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- Th
RE: Turning screen curtain off?
Mitch, A two or four finger double tap have nothing to do with the screen curtain. The original question was to help someone who cannot do the three finger gesture, so it comes down to Voice Control, which is there to make it possible for someone without use of their hands, or at least not effective use of their hands to access everything on an iOS device with or without VoiceOver. Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Turning screen curtain off? Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work just as well. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris<mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com<mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa4e34fa1635442edfe408d7ee8ecec5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240169423393681=EXjpbpethh1iCGzmPJS53OC3dRrdIyjef%2FKUeEKSzfw%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%2540damorris.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa4e34fa1635442edfe408d7ee8ecec5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240169423393681=PP26UU%2FZjctR20HvLz5DMuidwQ0So%2BGYc3b8wwp36KA%3D=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa4e34fa1635442edfe408d7ee8ecec5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637240169423398672=8PUcuRPPwO7XkEwzrzsTgmu8BNzlvCrvi0gfYf51G6A%3D=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982
RE: Turning screen curtain off?
Yes that is good but wouldn’t a 2 finger dubble tap or 3 or 4 finger one work just as well. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: May 2, 2020 7:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Turning screen curtain off? Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris <mailto:li...@damorris.com> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com <mailto:a...@damorris.com> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Oh yes! Nice one Hary. That should work. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 7:38 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone < viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once > voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you > can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. > Harry > > On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: > > > > Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. > > Dave. > > > *From:* Adam Morris > *Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM > *To:* viPhone > *Subject:* Turning screen curtain off? > > Hi all, > Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their > screen curtain on. > Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? > TIA. > > > -- > > Adam Morris > Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Using the voice control feature is perhaps the simplest solution. Once voice control is on and the necessary files have had time to download, you can give a command to turn screen curtain on or off. Harry > On 2 May 2020, at 12:24, Dave wrote: > > > Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. > > Dave. > > > From: Adam Morris > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM > To: viPhone > Subject: Turning screen curtain off? > > Hi all, > Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen > curtain on. > Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? > TIA. > > > -- > > Adam Morris > Email, iMessage & FaceTime > a...@damorris.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A3DA17F6-CA6A-4A91-AD85-80A1964527A4%40icloud.com.
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hi Adam. He could try asking Siri, to turn off screen curtain. Dave. From: Adam Morris Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM To: viPhone Subject: Turning screen curtain off? Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/982BB9A0164B483EB4ECD393A8D5D38E%40DaveTOSH.
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Yes!?True, I forgot this option. Lyne > Le 2 mai 2020 à 06:43, Michael Feir a écrit : > > > Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, > there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri > isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains > connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into > the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to > some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be > easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last > Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also > on Applevis. Best of luck to you. >> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris wrote: >> Hi all, >> Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their >> screen curtain on. >> Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? >> TIA. >> >> >> -- >> >> Adam Morris >> Email, iMessage & FaceTime >> a...@damorris.com >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. > -- > Michael Feir > Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition > http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 > Twitter: mfeir > Skype: michael-feir > Check out my blog at: > http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3C6FF382-B33B-4B12-81CB-6CE167331045%40gmail.com.
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hello, Don't think... Siri cannot do it. You can practice this gesture on a table. Quick triple tape with Three fingers with a little space between each and important, use the soft part of the finger, The secret, taking your time. Lyne > Le 2 mai 2020 à 06:20, Adam Morris a écrit : > > Hi all, > Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen > curtain on. > Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? > TIA. > > > -- > > Adam Morris > Email, iMessage & FaceTime > a...@damorris.com > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/526111A0-9907-42A5-889C-2FEC5E1A2FF5%40gmail.com.
Re: Turning screen curtain off?
Hello Adam. I just had a brief poke around for a solution. Unfortunately, there's no toggle in VoiceOver settings for the screen curtain. Using Siri isn't an option since it seems to think you want to control curtains connected via the home kit. The only thought which occurs to me is going into the VoiceOver commands settings and changing the screen curtain gesture to some other gesture which isn't already used for something else and might be easier for her. I cover this sort of thing in the guide I just released last Monday. You'll find a link to my blog where you can find the guide. It's also on Applevis. Best of luck to you. On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:20 AM Adam Morris wrote: > Hi all, > Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their > screen curtain on. > Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? > TIA. > > > -- > > Adam Morris > Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzr3WSyxWpJiQYzMh4SXMD56Whxmf7FX%2B7W7Z4WvDBy6RQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Turning screen curtain off?
Hi all, Someone I know who is elderly and has trouble with gesturing has their screen curtain on. Is there any way to turn it off without using the 3 finger triple tap? TIA. -- Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2e7fc88e-9663-3828-2ec9-61b4ee94b5b3%40damorris.com.
RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)
I'll put it this way, none of the sighted people who know and love me would bother with it, too hard. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Low vision users may, but give e 1 single reason why a sighted person would turn on Voiceover and then turn on the screen curtain, at that point they are putting themselves on the same level as a blind person with respect to using their phone, they can’t see the screen and would have to rely entirely on Voiceover to double tap on things, they couldn’t swipe to answer a call and if they wanted to type something they couldn’t just tap away at lightning speed as many especially younger sighted people who grew up with touchscreens can do. This would almost be like a sighted person putting on a blindfold and walking around with a white cane, there simply is no reason for it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Oh, come on! The world isn’t so black and white! Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda <http://MySpace.com/musikonalda> Facebook.com/lpnalda <http://Facebook.com/lpnalda> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda <http://Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda> Twitter: @lpnalda On Jun 20, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Mr. Ed mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net> > wrote: Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing.
RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)
Low vision users may, but give e 1 single reason why a sighted person would turn on Voiceover and then turn on the screen curtain, at that point they are putting themselves on the same level as a blind person with respect to using their phone, they can’t see the screen and would have to rely entirely on Voiceover to double tap on things, they couldn’t swipe to answer a call and if they wanted to type something they couldn’t just tap away at lightning speed as many especially younger sighted people who grew up with touchscreens can do. This would almost be like a sighted person putting on a blindfold and walking around with a white cane, there simply is no reason for it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:44 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Oh, come on! The world isn’t so black and white! Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda<http://MySpace.com/musikonalda> Facebook.com/lpnalda<http://Facebook.com/lpnalda> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda<http://Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda> Twitter: @lpnalda On Jun 20, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Mr. Ed mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote: Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted
Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)
Oh, come on! The world isn’t so black and white! Low vision people might use voiceover and even invoke screen curtain. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Jun 20, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > > Hi Sieghard and Janet, > I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all > those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO > on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have > not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using > screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. > Mr. Ed > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub > from this list) > > I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our > experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to > using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. > I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you > can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature > which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a > stand-alone accessibility feature. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet > gross > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub > from this list) > > Sieghard and all, > Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. > I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends > using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school > teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this > quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, > and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this > screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on > or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is > the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t > matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. > Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when > either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri > to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want > the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using > an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! > So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about > accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We > all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. > Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. > > Janet > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub > from this list) > > I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted > people know about the screen curtain? > I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town > where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly > folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and > that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales > rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to > show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a > picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to > double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture > button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on > the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, > your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. > I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted > people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain > on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time > which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course > get luck
RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)
I’m not sure they could even access the screen curtain without first turning on Voiceover. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is completely a foreign concept for them. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE
RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list)
Indeed. It more sounds like if sighted people are telling you that they’re using screen curtain, they’re most likely messing with you. There’s no real conceivable reason why a sighted person would use this specific accessibility related feature for the blind as opposed to say another general accessibility one that may lend itself to a more mainstream application. Regularly encountering its usage by sighted folks in the wild also sounds charitably speaking … implausible. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 2:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of
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Hi Sieghard and Janet, I am not bashing anyone on this subject. I just find it hard to believe all those sighted people are using screen curtain as they would have to have VO on to use it. I am like Sieghard, how would they use it with VO on as I have not ran into any sighted person who could use VO. Are you sure they are using screen curtain and not just locking their iPhone to have the screen black. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is completely a foreign concept for them. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Hi Marcio, How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you and others are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own! LOL! Janet From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone
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Same with my husband. In fact, I turn off Screen Curtain and VoiceOver. He taught electronics in community college and was a printer, so is a computer whiz, but not so with blind stuff on phones. We're like people talking politics. We think what we think and some think what they think, so we can just think what we think and let the world rock on. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel Subject: Re: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain Obviously there are some sighted people who know all about accessibility and some sighted people who don't know anything about it at all. I'd be surprised if a sighted person was using voiceOver though, since it changes the gesture set. A sighted person who isn't running VoiceOver can just touch an object on the screen, if they're running voiceOver they have to touch the object on the screen and then double tap the screen. I find it hard to believe a lot of sighted people would put up with this just to use the screen curtain. Furthermore, I think most sighted people would want to see the screen while they're using it, and if they're not going to use it, then the screen is going to just lock anyway, so I'm not sure why a sighted person would even bother with the screen curtain. My wife is sighted, so she knows something about accessibility and VoiceOver, but she doesn't use screen curtain, and every time I hand her my phone I have to talk her through disabling the screen curtain and how she has to touch something and then double tap the screen. Obviously, I'll turn off VoiceOver before I hand her my phone, if I can. On 6/19/19 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often
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Obviously there are some sighted people who know all about accessibility and some sighted people who don't know anything about it at all. I'd be surprised if a sighted person was using voiceOver though, since it changes the gesture set. A sighted person who isn't running VoiceOver can just touch an object on the screen, if they're running voiceOver they have to touch the object on the screen and then double tap the screen. I find it hard to believe a lot of sighted people would put up with this just to use the screen curtain. Furthermore, I think most sighted people would want to see the screen while they're using it, and if they're not going to use it, then the screen is going to just lock anyway, so I'm not sure why a sighted person would even bother with the screen curtain. My wife is sighted, so she knows something about accessibility and VoiceOver, but she doesn't use screen curtain, and every time I hand her my phone I have to talk her through disabling the screen curtain and how she has to touch something and then double tap the screen. Obviously, I'll turn off VoiceOver before I hand her my phone, if I can. On 6/19/19 11:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of *janet gross *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them about the scr
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I share your experience, I have noticed that too. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is completely a foreign concept for them. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Hi Marcio, How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you and others are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own! LOL! Janet From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
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I don’t think it was bashing, others including myself were simply stating our experience with how helpless almost all sighted people are when it comes to using a phone where Voiceover is turned on. I have yet to come across a single sighted person who uses Voiceover and you can’t use screen curtain unless Voiceover is running since that is a feature which exists only if Voiceover is on, you can’t turn on screen curtain as a stand-alone accessibility feature. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Sieghard and all, Ok once again, I will only reply to this Screen curtain issue one more time. I’ve seen many sighted people including my family, as well as my friends using the screen curtain, matter of fact, I even seen my Niece’s school teacher using it. please don’t ask me why, but the fact remains, I see this quite often. I’ve even been on a public bus, and seen a bus driver using it, and the reason I know this is because they either tell me they like this screen curtain if they know me, or I hear Voiceover saying screen curtain on or off. Maybe some sighted people use that feature for privacy as that is the reason I use the screen curtain feature. Who knows, but it doesn’t matter to me if a sighted person wants to use an accessibility feature. Although, I have noticed most of them who use the screen curtain, is when either they turn their phone off, or like this school teacher, she uses Siri to set the timer, and she turns on the screen curtain, maybe she doesn’t want the kids to see her phone screen. They might not even realize they are using an accessibility feature, so if they want to, so be it! So some blind people say sighted people don’t know anything about accessibility, and I say I do know some sighted people do know about it. We all are certainly entitled to our own opinions. Please let’s not turn this in to bashing. Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 11:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) I could ask the opposite, what makes you think all, most or even some sighted people know about the screen curtain? I am completely blind but as part of operating a retail store in a small town where the only other few visually impaired or blind people are some elderly folks who have lost their sight I deal exclusively with sighted people and that includes going to buying shows where I often pass my phone to a sales rep to show him a picture or ask him/her to take a picture of a product to show to my employees. I rarely have come across anybody who can even take a picture when Voiceover is on because sighted people don’t know you have to double tap a button when Voiceover is active, they tap the Take Picture button a few times until I tell them that doesn’t work. I don’t often turn on the screen curtain, but when I do and forget I usually get the comment “Hmm, your phone is off” or “your screen doesn’t work”. I guaranty that if you went to a mall and did a random survey of 500 sighted people where you handed them an iPhone with Voiceover and the screen curtain on and asked them the simple question whether they can tell you the time which is displayed on the phone that none of them could. You might of course get lucky and somebody may have a blind friend or family member who may have told them about the screen curtain feature which does not exist for sighted people and is completely a foreign concept for them. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet gross Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 10:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Hi Marcio, How do you know sighted people don’t know about Screen Curtain?? I think you and others are sadly mistaken when you think sighted people don’t know anything about the Screen Curtain?, but each to their own! LOL! Janet From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 12:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Sighted people and Voiceover Screen Curtain (was: how do I unsub from this list) Carolyn, How could they turn off Screen Curtain? They haven't a clue, and there is nothing to see. Wondering the very same thing. Given that a sighted person will use the screen to do what we do using the screen reader, how could they do it without anything to see? Cheers, Marcio<https://tin