RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is maybe a bit misleading in the app description although the title itself 
is pretty descriptive, after all, it says "GoodMaps Outdoors", maybe they 
should rename GoodMaps Explorer to "GoodMaps Indoors".


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

That explains thing. GoodMaps Explore is for indoors, though it has some 
outdoors info.  GoodMaps Outdoors is the same zSeeing Eye GPS. GoodMaps 
Outdooors isfree.


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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Mar 27, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:
Goodmaps Explore is only for indoor locations that the company has mapped. The 
one that is the same as Seeing Eye gps is Goodmaps Outdoors.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye gps. I In Explorer which when 
opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the address I wish to go to. when 
I find the address in the search it immediately opens Maps and it takes over 
the route.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting 
different information.
Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are 
important to you.
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RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you want a good turn-by-turn solution for outdoors, I would use GoodMaps 
Outdoors not GoodMaps Explorer.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye gps. I In Explorer which when 
opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the address I wish to go to. when 
I find the address in the search it immediately opens Maps and it takes over 
the route.
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From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting 
different information.
Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are 
important to you.
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Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Robert Doc Wright]

hurray! I just installed it and deleted Seeing eye
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 1:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps


  That explains thing. GoodMaps Explore is for indoors, though it has some 
outdoors info.  GoodMaps Outdoors is the same zSeeing Eye GPS. GoodMaps 
Outdooors isfree. 




  Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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On Mar 27, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:


Goodmaps Explore is only for indoor locations that the company has mapped. 
The one that is the same as Seeing Eye gps is Goodmaps Outdoors. 


Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


  On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:


   
  Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye gps. I In Explorer which 
when opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the address I wish to go to. 
when I find the address in the search it immediately opens Maps and it takes 
over the route.
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps


According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be 
reporting different information.

Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?









Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps



the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far 
more information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses 
are important to you.

*
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first step toward perfection!



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Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Richard Turner]

That explains thing. GoodMaps Explore is for indoors, though it has some outdoors info.  GoodMaps Outdoors is the same zSeeing Eye GPS. GoodMaps Outdooors isfree. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 27, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:Goodmaps Explore is only for indoor locations that the company has mapped. The one that is the same as Seeing Eye gps is Goodmaps Outdoors. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye 
gps. I In Explorer which when opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the 
address I wish to go to. when I find the address in the search it immediately 
opens Maps and it takes over the route.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye 
  gps
  
  
  According to 
  Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting different 
  information.
  Are you sure you 
  have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?
   
   
  
   
   
  Richard, USA.
  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are 
  in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent 
  Life in the Universe
   
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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   On Behalf Of Robert Doc 
  WrightSent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AMTo: 
  viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye 
  gps
   
  
  the biggest 
  difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more information if 
  knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are important to 
  you.
  
  *When we 
  finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step 
  toward perfection!
  
   
  
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Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Tai Tomasi]

Goodmaps Explore is only for indoor locations that the company has mapped. The one that is the same as Seeing Eye gps is Goodmaps Outdoors. Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Mar 27, 2023, at 3:09 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye 
gps. I In Explorer which when opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the 
address I wish to go to. when I find the address in the search it immediately 
opens Maps and it takes over the route.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye 
  gps
  
  
  According to 
  Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting different 
  information.
  Are you sure you 
  have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?
   
   
  
   
   
  Richard, USA.
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  in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent 
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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
   On Behalf Of Robert Doc 
  WrightSent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AMTo: 
  viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye 
  gps
   
  
  the biggest 
  difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more information if 
  knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are important to 
  you.
  
  *When we 
  finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first step 
  toward perfection!
  
   
  
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Re: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Robert Doc Wright]

Explorer works totally different from Seeing eye gps. I In Explorer which when 
opened announces Good Maps. has me typing in the address I wish to go to. when 
I find the address in the search it immediately opens Maps and it takes over 
the route.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 11:32 AM
  Subject: RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps


  According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting 
different information.

  Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?

   

   

   

   

  Richard, USA.

  “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

   

  My web site: https://www.turner42.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2023 4:32 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

   

  the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are 
important to you.

  *
  When we finally give Yeshua/Jesus full control then we have taken that first 
step toward perfection!

   

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RE: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

[Richard Turner]

According to Mike May, they are the same app, so should not be reporting 
different information.

Are you sure you have them both set to report the same categories, etc.?

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

 

the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
information if knowing street crossings and names of various businesses are 
important to you.

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Good maps vs Seeing Eye gps

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the biggest difference I have found is that Seeing eye GPS gives far more 
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Re: Seeing eye after just one year.

[Arlene]

Gera, it is incredible using seeing ai, reading the computer screen.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gerardo Corripio 
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  Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 9:32 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing eye after just one year.


  Seeing AI is so good in fact, that I’ve used it to while Windows10 is 
updating for instance, and you’ve no speech from Narrator or NVDA, I point the 
pone to the screen, via the Short Text channel, and amazingly Seeing AI READS 
OUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE UPDATE, AND THE TEXT THAT APPEARS THAT SAYS DO NOT 
TURN OFF THEdevice. The first time I decided to try this out, it wasincredible! 

   


Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

   

  De: Jenny Bomareto
  Enviado: domingo, 18 de noviembre de 2018 08:54 p. m.
  Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Asunto: Seeing eye after just one year.

   

   

  My friend and I have seeing eye on our iPhones.

   

  That  app does much better then KNFB reader.  In fact, it was almost a  waste 
of money to purchase KNFB reader.

   

  With Seeing eye I  still have to learn better how to point the phone better 
at products.  I  do not have an issue with paper documents when I  want to read 
something.

   

  Sent from Mail for Windows 10

   

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RE: Seeing eye after just one year.

[Gerardo Corripio]

Seeing AI is so good in fact, that I’ve used it to while Windows10 is updating 
for instance, and you’ve no speech from Narrator or NVDA, I point the pone to 
the screen, via the Short Text channel, and amazingly Seeing AI READS OUT THE 
PERCENTAGE OF THE UPDATE, AND THE TEXT THAT APPEARS THAT SAYS DO NOT TURN OFF 
THEdevice. The first time I decided to try this out, it wasincredible! 


  Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

De: Jenny Bomareto
Enviado: domingo, 18 de noviembre de 2018 08:54 p. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Seeing eye after just one year.


My friend and I have seeing eye on our iPhones.

That  app does much better then KNFB reader.  In fact, it was almost a  waste 
of money to purchase KNFB reader.

With Seeing eye I  still have to learn better how to point the phone better at 
products.  I  do not have an issue with paper documents when I  want to read 
something.

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Seeing eye after just one year.

[Jenny Bomareto]

My friend and I have seeing eye on our iPhones.

That  app does much better then KNFB reader.  In fact, it was almost a  waste 
of money to purchase KNFB reader.

With Seeing eye I  still have to learn better how to point the phone better at 
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something.

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RE: recording a route with Seeing eye GPS

[Terrie Terlau]

Robert,

Thank you very much for these detailed directions!

Terrie Terlau

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: recording a route with Seeing eye GPS

 

 

 

We have waypoint routes in Seeing Eye GPS, these are the same as the manual 
routes from Sendero GPS.  Go to routes screen and select Waypoint route.  To 
begin recording a new waypoint route, select the Record New Waypoint Route 
button.  You will be prompted to enter the name of the first waypoint, the 
nearest address is automatically placed in the text field, but you can enter 
your own name.  For example, if you are creating a route from your car to the 
end of a hiking trail, you could name the first waypoint “car” and your last 
waypoint “trail end.”  When the waypoint route is saved, it will automatically 
be named “car to trail end.”   Once the first waypoint is saved, you can travel 
your route while waypoints are automatically placed at regular intervals as you 
walk along your route (every 160 feet at pedestrian speeds and every half mile 
at vehicle speeds). You can also add your own waypoints manually by either 
shaking the phone or selecting the Add Waypoint button at the bottom of the 
screen.  If you add Waypoints by shaking the phone the nearest address or 
intersection, if available, will be added to the name of that Waypoint.  If you 
add Waypoints using the Add Waypoint button, you have the option to either 
accept the auto-populated text or enter your own text and select the Save 
button.  This waypoint will be added sequentially to the list of waypoints in 
your route.  When you exit your route by selecting the Back button, it is 
automatically closed and saved using the name of the 1st and last waypoint. 
Note: Make sure you are done adding waypoints to your route when you select the 
Back button because it is not yet possible to add to a waypoint route once you 
exit. To hear about your location without leaving your route, select the 
Location Announce button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen. 

To load an existing route again, select the Load Existing Waypoint Route 
button. A list of all your previously created waypoint routes will be 
presented, simply select the route you want to load.  When your route loads, it 
will automatically place you at the nearest Waypoint and determine which way to 
load the route.  So, if you are at the last Waypoint in your route, it will 
load the route in reverse order so Waypoint 1 is your destination.  While in 
the route, you will hear automatic direction and distance announcements about 
your next Waypoint.  

  

 

On 9/1/2018 6:13 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

The rout recorder to Seeing eye GPs as it is in Sendero GPS?Has there been any 
talk about adding 

 

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Subject: [gps-talkusers] September POI Totals

 

The latest user collective POIs have been uploaded to the web site. The best 
way to share and easily manage user POIs is through Sendero Maps for the PC 
where the files will be downloaded, unzipped and placed in the correct folder. 
. The latest updated user collective POIs as of the beginning of this month 
have been uploaded and you can also download them from your account at 
http://www.gosendero.com under the heading Points Of Interest. Follow the link 
'User and other POI content'. Don't leave home without this valuable POI data.

 

The files have the last modified date and time. This saves from downloading 
files you already have.

 

City_Center_POIS

1 contributor

6 new POIs

0 updated POIs

0 POIs with media

0 POIs deleted

133852 Total POIs

 

Europe_Extra_POIS

3 contributors

79 new POIs

0 updated POIs

0 POIs with media

1 POI deleted

5093 Total POIs

 

USA_Extra_POIS

1 contributor

2 new POIs

0 updated POIs

0 POIs with media

0 POIs deleted

14310 Total POIs

 

World_Extra_POIS

2 contributors

11 new POIs

0 updated POIs

0 POIs with media

12 POIs deleted

1473 Total POIs

 

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recording a route with Seeing eye GPS

[Robert Wright]

We have waypoint routes in Seeing Eye GPS, these are the same as the manual 
routes from Sendero GPS.  Go to routes screen and select Waypoint route.  To 
begin recording a new waypoint route, select the Record New Waypoint Route 
button.  You will be prompted to enter the name of the first waypoint, the 
nearest address is automatically placed in the text field, but you can enter 
your own name.  For example, if you are creating a route from your car to the 
end of a hiking trail, you could name the first waypoint “car” and your last 
waypoint “trail end.”  When the waypoint route is saved, it will automatically 
be named “car to trail end.”   Once the first waypoint is saved, you can travel 
your route while waypoints are automatically placed at regular intervals as you 
walk along your route (every 160 feet at pedestrian speeds and every half mile 
at vehicle speeds). You can also add your own waypoints manually by either 
shaking the phone or selecting the Add Waypoint button at the bottom of the 
screen.  If you add Waypoints by shaking the phone the nearest address or 
intersection, if available, will be added to the name of that Waypoint.  If you 
add Waypoints using the Add Waypoint button, you have the option to either 
accept the auto-populated text or enter your own text and select the Save 
button.  This waypoint will be added sequentially to the list of waypoints in 
your route.  When you exit your route by selecting the Back button, it is 
automatically closed and saved using the name of the 1st and last waypoint. 
Note: Make sure you are done adding waypoints to your route when you select the 
Back button because it is not yet possible to add to a waypoint route once you 
exit. To hear about your location without leaving your route, select the 
Location Announce button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen. 
To load an existing route again, select the Load Existing Waypoint Route 
button. A list of all your previously created waypoint routes will be 
presented, simply select the route you want to load.  When your route loads, it 
will automatically place you at the nearest Waypoint and determine which way to 
load the route.  So, if you are at the last Waypoint in your route, it will 
load the route in reverse order so Waypoint 1 is your destination.  While in 
the route, you will hear automatic direction and distance announcements about 
your next Waypoint.  
  

On 9/1/2018 6:13 PM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
The rout recorder to Seeing eye GPs as it is in Sendero GPS?Has there been any 
talk about adding 
 
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    
 
From: p...@senderogroup.com
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 4:25 AM
To: gps-talkus...@freelists.org
Subject: [gps-talkusers] September POI Totals
 
The latest user collective POIs have been uploaded to the web site. The best 
way to share and easily manage user POIs is through Sendero Maps for the PC 
where the files will be downloaded, unzipped and placed in the correct folder. 
. The latest updated user collective POIs as of the beginning of this month 
have been uploaded and you can also download them from your account at 
http://www.gosendero.com under the heading Points Of Interest. Follow the link 
'User and other POI content'. Don't leave home without this valuable POI data.
 
The files have the last modified date and time. This saves from downloading 
files you already have.
 
City_Center_POIS
1 contributor
6 new POIs
0 updated POIs
0 POIs with media
0 POIs deleted
133852 Total POIs
 
Europe_Extra_POIS
3 contributors
79 new POIs
0 updated POIs
0 POIs with media
1 POI deleted
5093 Total POIs
 
USA_Extra_POIS
1 contributor
2 new POIs
0 updated POIs
0 POIs with media
0 POIs deleted
14310 Total POIs
 
World_Extra_POIS
2 contributors
11 new POIs
0 updated POIs
0 POIs with media
12 POIs deleted
1473 Total POIs
 
auto-generated by Sendero Group
 

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Seeing Eye GPS and Intersections

[Hooper, Robert M.]

Hello All:

Has anybody encountered problems with the Seeing Eye GPS app for iPhone not 
announcing intersections? I have checked all the relevant settings (i.e. I have 
the announce intersections setting set to "always," and intersections are 
included in look around). POIs are announced seemingly without error, and I 
have tried switching the POI sources (although I'm sure that the POI and 
intersection functions are independent). I should note that I have strolled 
down all the avenues of traditional tech support preliminaries: location 
services are enabled (globally and for the app), both the app and iOS are up to 
date, the phone has been rebooted, etc. I have emailed Sendero, but never 
having been obliged to contact them previously, I do not know how long they 
typically take to respond, so I thought that I would seek input from the list 
as well. Let me know if you have experienced this issue as well as how you were 
able to resolve it (if indeed the problem was resolved).
Regards,
Robert Hooper

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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Ah, come on, Mikayla, you just wish you could do it every day *grin*.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Jeez, it took me a while to figure it out, and I truly apologize big time 
Sieghard!But hey, I’m blind; LOL!

Mikayla? BTW: last Halloween I attended a local spaghetti dinner fundraiser  
for the blind, held on the Saturday of Halloween weekend 2016. I entered the 
haloween costume contest, and took home the grand prize. My award winning 
costume? I got completely dressed up in woman’s clothing, heels, hose and a hot 
skirt suit, with short auburn colored wig and appropriate make up, and went as 
a “Blind Date”!

What a PITA walking around in 3 inch heels the whole night! My hat goes off to 
the ladies out there, that pull this off all the time for us guys!
I appreciate it big time ladies!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this.
HTH!..Mike

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage i

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Mike Ulrich]

Jeez, it took me a while to figure it out, and I truly apologize big time 
Sieghard!But hey, I’m blind; LOL!

 

Mikayla? BTW: last Halloween I attended a local spaghetti dinner fundraiser  
for the blind, held on the Saturday of Halloween weekend 2016. I entered the 
haloween costume contest, and took home the grand prize. My award winning 
costume? I got completely dressed up in woman’s clothing, heels, hose and a hot 
skirt suit, with short auburn colored wig and appropriate make up, and went as 
a “Blind Date”!

 

What a PITA walking around in 3 inch heels the whole night! My hat goes off to 
the ladies out there, that pull this off all the time for us guys!

I appreciate it big time ladies!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this. 

HTH!..Mike

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi,

 

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

 

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

 

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

 

What's New in Version 3.0

 

1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

 

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories. 

 

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

 

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

 

5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

 

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

 

Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand,

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Richard!





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:33 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Well, as I said, the technology is here, just not widely available.

Do a google search for iBeacons, if you add BlindSquare to the search you can 
find lots of stories about how they are being used.

Apparently, the London Underground subway system is installing them, the San 
Francisco Airport, a mall I think in Toronto, Canada, and more.

You might also search for Seeing Eye and iBeacons, but that is so new, I’m not 
sure what you will find.

Once you have more information about them, you might want to talk to your local 
mall manager to see if they would look into installing them as an ADA provision.



HTH,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:16 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi Rich!

I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.

Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.

Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.

Thanks,

Anna







From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:vip

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you, Sieghard!





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:09 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi Richard,



I don’t think Anna was joking, but of course you are correct in saying that 
this is not something that is currently possible with GPS technology alone 
especially if you are indoors where the signal is less precise or may even be 
non-existant as, for example, it would be the case in an underground mall or 
most likely the first floor of a multi-level mall.

I think also it will take a few more years, but I also think that this is 
coming and that it will first happen at airports where often even sighted 
people get confused especially at airports with multiple terminals which are 
often far apart. Many asian airports such as Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo and so on 
require you to take a train from one terminal to another and they might be as 
much as a mile or so apart.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:05 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so n

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Now, Mike, if you make a girl out of me again I’ll call you Mikayla which will 
then cause you to experience a gender identity crisis *smile*

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Ulrich
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this.
HTH!..Mike

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Richard,

I don’t think Anna was joking, but of course you are correct in saying that 
this is not something that is currently possible with GPS technology alone 
especially if you are indoors where the signal is less precise or may even be 
non-existant as, for example, it would be the case in an underground mall or 
most likely the first floor of a multi-level mall.
I think also it will take a few more years, but I also think that this is 
coming and that it will first happen at airports where often even sighted 
people get confused especially at airports with multiple terminals which are 
often far apart. Many asian airports such as Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo and so on 
require you to take a train from one terminal to another and they might be as 
much as a mile or so apart.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

Well, as I said, the technology is here, just not widely available.
Do a google search for iBeacons, if you add BlindSquare to the search you can 
find lots of stories about how they are being used.
Apparently, the London Underground subway system is installing them, the San 
Francisco Airport, a mall I think in Toronto, Canada, and more.
You might also search for Seeing Eye and iBeacons, but that is so new, I’m not 
sure what you will find.
Once you have more information about them, you might want to talk to your local 
mall manager to see if they would look into installing them as an ADA provision.

HTH,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi Rich!
I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.
Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.
Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.
Thanks,
Anna



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Rich!

I’m not kidding but rather looking for any possible solution because I get 
completely lost being in the mall.

Not too long ago GPS would be considered a miracle but it’s widely available 
and even accessible now.

Lets hope the sky rocketing science will come up with something helpful soon 
enough.

Thanks,

Anna







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:05 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,

I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.

That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.

But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.



Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.



Later,

Richard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Giller, Anna

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

A

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I know you are probably kind of kidding, but no, that technology does not exist 
yet.
That would be possible with the beacon system that BlindSquare works with as 
well as the one Seeing Eye has started incorporating into their latest update.
But, I suspect it will take years and years before very many malls, airports, 
etc., install beacon systems that will be usable with particular apps.

Besides, I would probably ask anyway even if a beacon announced the store I 
wanted because I don’t trust electronics to be that precise.

Later,
Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Thank you very much Richard!
You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.
I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.
Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard


(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatib

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thank you very much Richard!

You right – everybody has own needs and preferences, and each GPS does things a 
bit differently than others  although the basic idea is the same.

I’ve been looking for GPS that announces the name of the store I’m entering. 
This is very crucial when walkin in the mall or at a shopping plaza.

Are you aware of any GPS with such capability? g





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.

If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.

But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.

I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.

I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.

I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.

I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.

Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.

Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.

There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.

I hope all this is useful.

Richard







(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard









(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and releas

Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

I should have said that the one time purchase is actually called Seeing Eye GPS 
XT, and is $199, but yes that is a lifetime, one time payment.
If you were planning to use it for four years, it is a better buy.
But whether it is good enough or is guaranteed to be around, I cannot say.
I find that GPS is very much a personal preference item.
I don't travel into new areas much any more, so I am quite content to use 
Google Maps or MapQuest for turn-by-Turn directions.
I also like Blind Square, set to streets only.
I have not spent much time with the new Lazarillo app that is free that does 
some of what Blind Square does.
Nearby Explorer is also very good and includes speaking the names of the 
streets you are crossing for a one time charge of $79.
Plus, Nearby Explorer stores the maps right on your iPhone so it does not need 
an internet connection to work, while all the others I've mentioned do require 
an internet connection because the maps are on a server. That means though, 
that you need to have at least 3 GB of space for the maps on your device.
There are more factors of course, but each person has different needs and 
preferences, so in my opinion, no one can say which app is the best for another 
person.
I hope all this is useful.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Thanks Richard!
$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?
Do you think that GPS is good enough?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features


There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:
Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage i

RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Mike Ulrich]

What I think she is saying is; if you purchase the version where you own it, no 
subscription, it only costs $199.00. Not the original $299.00. I think I’m 
correct with this. 

HTH!..Mike

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Giller, Anna
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

 

Hi,

 

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

 

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

 

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

 

What's New in Version 3.0

 

1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

 

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories. 

 

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

 

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

 

5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

 

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

 

Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Thanks Richard!

$200 is a purchase for life-time, isn’t it?

Do you think that GPS is good enough?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:57 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features





There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.

Richard







(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)



On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.



3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.



4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!



5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.



6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.



Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.



Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Richard Turner]

There is a yearly subscription that you have been paying. There is a three year 
subscription for $130, or a one time payment of $299, which is on sale right 
now for $200 that is not a subscription, but an outright purchase so no worries 
about renewals.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:37 AM, Giller, Anna 
<anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov<mailto:anna.gil...@tech.nj.gov>> wrote:

Hi Cieghard!
I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.
I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.
Are you talking about multi-years?
Thank you

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard
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RE: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Giller, Anna]

Hi Cieghard!

I’m a bit confused with the prices you’re mentioning.

I’ve been paying $70 for yearly subscription.

Are you talking about multi-years?

Thank you



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features



Hi,



For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.

Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.

If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:



Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!



Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.



What's New in Version 3.0



1.  Added Waypoint Routes

Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a

Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.

Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.



2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.

You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.

Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.



3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source

Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.



4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,

as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!



5.  Added Uber to Route type options

The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.



6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity

You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.



Countries and regions available as of 2017:

USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.



Regards,

Sieghard

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Seeing Eye GPS version 3.0 with new features

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

For those who don't get emails from Sendero, below  is an announcement I just 
received regarding an update to the Seeing Eye GPS (app.
Also, the "XT" version which is the one you purchase outright for $299 US is 
currently $100 off and available for $199 US or $279.99 Canadian.
If you can find a 20% off deal on iTunes gift cards this is pretty attractive, 
you would get it for $159.99 US or $223.99 Canadian, just a bit more than what 
you would pay for 2 years of subscription. Here is the What's New info:

Thanks to continued underwriting from Guide Dogs NSW ACT Australia and a 
federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, Independent Living and 
Rehabilitation Research, we have major feature improvements in the Sendero 
version 3.0 iPhone GPS apps, including Waypoint Routes, new POI user interface 
and Uber compatibility!

Warning: Before you install the update, share your user points of interest with 
your email; otherwise, they will be deleted from the app. You can then click on 
the attachment of the email on your phone to import them into the new version.

What's New in Version 3.0

1.  Added Waypoint Routes
Similar to Manual "Breadcrumb" routes that are in our other Sendero GPS 
products.   All you have to do to create a
Waypoint route is walk the route and the app will save points along the way.
Waypoint routes are helpful when there are no street maps, as in a park or 
campus.

2.  Redesigned the Points of Interest user interface to make searching for 
POIs more streamlined.
You can now use the Nearby POI Shortcut Gesture (double tap, hold and release 
on the POIs Menu button) or go to the POI Search Screen to search for a 
specific POI or a POI category.
Unless you select a category, the search will be in All categories.

3.  If a POI search finds no results, in addition to expanding or 
cancelling the search, you can now select switch POI source
Your default POI Source will not change if you switch POI Sources for a POI 
search. You can set your default POI Source in General Settings.

4.  Added indoor navigation support, Beacons button on the POI screen,
as part of our current federal grant from the National Institute of Disability, 
Independent Living and Rehabilitation Research.  Beacon coverage is limited to 
a few locations in the US, UK, Germany and Turkey.  We will be working to 
expand this coverage over the course of the grant, so stay tuned!

5.  Added Uber to Route type options
The app will send your location and destination to Uber so that you can 
schedule an Uber ride.

6.  Added an additional setting for the Shake sensitivity
You can now choose Hard, Medium or Off.

Countries and regions available as of 2017:
USA, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Canada, UK, France, Ireland, New Zealand, 
Australia, Austria, Belgium, Germany, Lithuania, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey and 
Israel.

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: How to Explore Distant Locations Virtually with Seeing Eye GPS?

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks for the reply, Chris. Well, so much for making Seeing Eye GPS my go to 
GPS app because I consider its inability to explore distant locations virtually 
and save them at my convenience to be a real shortcoming.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to Explore Distant Locations Virtually with Seeing Eye GPS?

 

 

The Seeing Eye GPS automatically saves the last 20 or 25 routes that you have 
created in the history.  There is no way to actually choose which routes are 
saved.

And from my knowledge, there is no way of virtually looking at a location like 
you can in Blind Square or Nearby Explorer.

 

Chris

 


On Aug 24, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello List,

 

I appreciate the help I got here on how to explore a distant location virtually 
using APH's Nearby Explorer app. I'm trying to do the same thing with the 
Seeing Eye GPS app which I'm trying for a month and I can't figure out how to 
do it. I see how to get a route to a distant location with it which is sort of 
a pain since you have to input the full address and the app doesn't seem to 
take advantage of anything already in your contacts. But even with the route 
provided to the distant location, I can't figure out how to save it as a POI 
for virtual exploration or just to save it.

 

The POI screen won't let me search further than 30 miles out with Google set as 
the reference source or further than 200 miles with Four Square set as the 
source.

 

If someone who is familiar with the app can direct me how to explore distant 
locations and save them for later, I would very much appreciate the help. I 
guess my brain isn't geared to think like these apps which Is why I'm trying to 
get familiar with the best one and make it my go-to GPS app.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[M. Taylor]

Thanks for letting us know, Ed.

I have forwarded your comments to the Nearby Explorer Beta email list.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS

Hey Mark,

I can confirm that I have the same results in my testing of the apps side by 
side. The NerBy app has a definite issue with telling accurate distances. The 
Seeing Eye GPS is always on target.

Thanks,

Ed
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chip,
> 
> Given the drag on battery when using GPS, how much do you think having maps 
> onboard, as compared to using GoogleMaps or AppleMaps, actually saves?
> 
> Thanks, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as 
> Compared to Seeing Eye GPS
> 
> Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.
> 
> I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take 
> into consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS 
> hardware obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, 
> which then does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any 
> satellites (I have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from 
> the GPS hardware as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in 
> error, and an estimate of how large the error might be, but no distance is 
> involved except that the app can then take the estimated error probability, 
> and report it to the user as an error distance (but this is something known 
> to be rather inaccurate).
> 
> All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
> consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with their 
> own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a map 
> position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the last 
> reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like Nearby 
> GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the battery 
> significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as to the 
> current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for time 
> passed since the last report (along with direction and speed).
> 
> I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
> (long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
> problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.
> 
> Thanks again for the very useful testing,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared 
> to Seeing Eye GPS
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:
> 
> Mark
> 
> Post:
> Hello Rob, et al,
> 
> Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:
> 
> Note 1:
> I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I 
> approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.
> 
> Note 2:
> The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles 
> per hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.
> 
> Note 3:
> I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically 
> announced and
> (2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either 
> case, the results were the same.
> 
> Note 4:
> There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a 
> beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were 
> no structures blocking my view of the sky.
> 
> Note 5:
> While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I 
> simultaneously ran Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time 
> comparison.
> 
> Note 6:
> I ran both apps with the screen turned off.
> 
> Note 7:
> Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby 
> Explorer.
> 
> Note 8:
> Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested 
> for intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, 
> rarely, if ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment

Re: How to Explore Distant Locations Virtually with Seeing Eye GPS?

[Chris Chaffin]

The Seeing Eye GPS automatically saves the last 20 or 25 routes that you have 
created in the history.  There is no way to actually choose which routes are 
saved.
And from my knowledge, there is no way of virtually looking at a location like 
you can in Blind Square or Nearby Explorer.

Chris


> On Aug 24, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> I appreciate the help I got here on how to explore a distant location 
> virtually using APH's Nearby Explorer app. I'm trying to do the same thing 
> with the Seeing Eye GPS app which I'm trying for a month and I can't figure 
> out how to do it. I see how to get a route to a distant location with it 
> which is sort of a pain since you have to input the full address and the app 
> doesn't seem to take advantage of anything already in your contacts. But even 
> with the route provided to the distant location, I can't figure out how to 
> save it as a POI for virtual exploration or just to save it.
>  
> The POI screen won't let me search further than 30 miles out with Google set 
> as the reference source or further than 200 miles with Four Square set as the 
> source.
>  
> If someone who is familiar with the app can direct me how to explore distant 
> locations and save them for later, I would very much appreciate the help. I 
> guess my brain isn't geared to think like these apps which Is why I'm trying 
> to get familiar with the best one and make it my go-to GPS app.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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How to Explore Distant Locations Virtually with Seeing Eye GPS?

[Alan Lemly]

Hello List,

 

I appreciate the help I got here on how to explore a distant location
virtually using APH's Nearby Explorer app. I'm trying to do the same thing
with the Seeing Eye GPS app which I'm trying for a month and I can't figure
out how to do it. I see how to get a route to a distant location with it
which is sort of a pain since you have to input the full address and the app
doesn't seem to take advantage of anything already in your contacts. But
even with the route provided to the distant location, I can't figure out how
to save it as a POI for virtual exploration or just to save it.

 

The POI screen won't let me search further than 30 miles out with Google set
as the reference source or further than 200 miles with Four Square set as
the source.

 

If someone who is familiar with the app can direct me how to explore distant
locations and save them for later, I would very much appreciate the help. I
guess my brain isn't geared to think like these apps which Is why I'm trying
to get familiar with the best one and make it my go-to GPS app.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Andy Baracco]

But the true implication of this depends on where you are. Here in los 
Angeles, the environment is pretty much built over, so the street map does 
not change. I have a working Trekker Maestro, and the maps have not been 
updated in years, but are still accurate. What changes, of course, are the 
POIs.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Chip Orange

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS


Hi Keith,

I believe it  actually makes very little difference.  Either way, you must 
first use GPS to get your latitude and longitude (I believe this is the big 
drain on power), and then with this info, you lookup your street 
address/location in your map data by either querying via the internet, or 
checking your onboard map database.


It does use additional power to make an internet query for your map data, 
and there will be situations where you are out of range of your cell 
connection, so there are benefits to having the map data onboard; but to 
balance the argument, the internet query maps are usually updated 
constantly, while the onboard maps take so long to download that they are 
updated rather seldom (I don't know how APH is handling this), so are more 
likely to be out of date.


Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:05 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS


Hi Chip,

Given the drag on battery when using GPS, how much do you think having maps 
onboard, as compared to using GoogleMaps or AppleMaps, actually saves?


Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chip Orange

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS


Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.

I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take 
into consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS 
hardware obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, 
which then does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any 
satellites (I have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from 
the GPS hardware as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in 
error, and an estimate of how large the error might be, but no distance is 
involved except that the app can then take the estimated error probability, 
and report it to the user as an error distance (but this is something known 
to be rather inaccurate).


All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with 
their own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a 
map position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the 
last reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like 
Nearby GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the 
battery significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as 
to the current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for 
time passed since the last report (along with direction and speed).


I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
(long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.


Thanks again for the very useful testing,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS


Hello All,

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran

RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Chip Orange]

Hi Keith,

I believe it  actually makes very little difference.  Either way, you must 
first use GPS to get your latitude and longitude (I believe this is the big 
drain on power), and then with this info, you lookup your street 
address/location in your map data by either querying via the internet, or 
checking your onboard map database.

It does use additional power to make an internet query for your map data, and 
there will be situations where you are out of range of your cell connection, so 
there are benefits to having the map data onboard; but to balance the argument, 
the internet query maps are usually updated constantly, while the onboard maps 
take so long to download that they are updated rather seldom (I don't know how 
APH is handling this), so are more likely to be out of date.  

Hth,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:05 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS

Hi Chip,

Given the drag on battery when using GPS, how much do you think having maps 
onboard, as compared to using GoogleMaps or AppleMaps, actually saves?

Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS

Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.

I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take into 
consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS hardware 
obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, which then 
does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any satellites (I 
have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from the GPS hardware 
as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in error, and an estimate 
of how large the error might be, but no distance is involved except that the 
app can then take the estimated error probability, and report it to the user as 
an error distance (but this is something known to be rather inaccurate).

All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with their 
own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a map 
position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the last 
reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like Nearby 
GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the battery 
significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as to the 
current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for time passed 
since the last report (along with direction and speed).

I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
(long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.

Thanks again for the very useful testing,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing 
Eye GPS

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch

Re: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Mark,

I can confirm that I have the same results in my testing of the apps side by 
side. The NerBy app has a definite issue with telling accurate distances. The 
Seeing Eye GPS is always on target.

Thanks,

Ed
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chip,
> 
> Given the drag on battery when using GPS, how much do you think having maps 
> onboard, as compared to using GoogleMaps or AppleMaps, actually saves?
> 
> Thanks, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
> Seeing Eye GPS
> 
> Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.
> 
> I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take 
> into consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS 
> hardware obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, 
> which then does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any 
> satellites (I have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from 
> the GPS hardware as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in 
> error, and an estimate of how large the error might be, but no distance is 
> involved except that the app can then take the estimated error probability, 
> and report it to the user as an error distance (but this is something known 
> to be rather inaccurate).
> 
> All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
> consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with their 
> own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a map 
> position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the last 
> reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like Nearby 
> GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the battery 
> significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as to the 
> current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for time 
> passed since the last report (along with direction and speed).
> 
> I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
> (long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
> problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.
> 
> Thanks again for the very useful testing,
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
> Seeing Eye GPS
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:
> 
> Mark
> 
> Post:
> Hello Rob, et al,
> 
> Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:
> 
> Note 1:
> I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
> approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.
> 
> Note 2:
> The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
> hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.
> 
> Note 3:
> I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
> (2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
> the results were the same.
> 
> Note 4:
> There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
> beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
> structures blocking my view of the sky.
> 
> Note 5:
> While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
> Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  
> 
> Note 6:
> I ran both apps with the screen turned off.
> 
> Note 7:
> Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
> Explorer.
> 
> Note 8:
> Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
> intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
> ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
> feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
> to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
> be announced.  
> 
> Note 9:
> Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
> remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
> auto-intersect

RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi Chip,

Given the drag on battery when using GPS, how much do you think having maps 
onboard, as compared to using GoogleMaps or AppleMaps, actually saves?

Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to 
Seeing Eye GPS

Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.

I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take into 
consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS hardware 
obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, which then 
does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any satellites (I 
have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from the GPS hardware 
as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in error, and an estimate 
of how large the error might be, but no distance is involved except that the 
app can then take the estimated error probability, and report it to the user as 
an error distance (but this is something known to be rather inaccurate).

All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with their 
own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a map 
position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the last 
reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like Nearby 
GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the battery 
significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as to the 
current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for time passed 
since the last report (along with direction and speed).

I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
(long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.

Thanks again for the very useful testing,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing 
Eye GPS

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
be announced.  

Note 9:
Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
auto-intersection announcements.

Comments:
Now that I've got all of that out of the way, I can tell you that Nearby
Explorer appears to be off by as little as 50 yards to as much as 200 yards
at virtually every intersection.  This is to say, as we approached the
cross-walk, slowing down in the approach for a red light, Seeing Eye would
perfectly announce the intersection.  Nearby Explorer, however, if it
announced the cross street at all, would consistently report it as being as
little as 50 yards ahead; more often than not, however, it would report the
intersection as being 250 or so yards ahead.  I was really surprised to see
intersections being announced only after we had passed through them by as
little as 100 feet or more.

At speed, Nearby Explorer consistently failed to announce intersections,
altogether.  

It almost seemed as though the app was/is not properly

RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Chip Orange]

Thank you Mark for your analysis and testing results.

I wanted to offer one correction however: GPS apps in no way have to take into 
consideration their distance from the satellites.  The underlying GPS hardware 
obviously does, but it simply reports the lat and lon to the app, which then 
does what it does, but has no interaction with distance from any satellites (I 
have written a GPS app).  It is also offered an opinion from the GPS hardware 
as to the likelyhood of the reported position being in error, and an estimate 
of how large the error might be, but no distance is involved except that the 
app can then take the estimated error probability, and report it to the user as 
an error distance (but this is something known to be rather inaccurate).

All GPS apps designed to be used while in motion need to take into 
consideration the current speed and direction of the motion, along with their 
own estimation of how long it will take them to calculate and report a map 
position (as a car moving at speed can cover quite a distance since the last 
reported position from the GPS hardware), and it sounds very much like Nearby 
GPS is not doing this.  Given that use of GPS hardware can drain the battery 
significantly, most apps also don't constantly query the hardware as to the 
current position, so more than ever the app needs to compensate for time passed 
since the last report (along with direction and speed).

I recall this was also a reported problem for Seeing Eye GPS many years ago 
(long before it was available on smart phones), and so it looks like it's a 
problem they've conquored, and so likely will be one APH can conquor.

Thanks again for the very useful testing,

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing 
Eye GPS

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
be announced.  

Note 9:
Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
auto-intersection announcements.

Comments:
Now that I've got all of that out of the way, I can tell you that Nearby
Explorer appears to be off by as little as 50 yards to as much as 200 yards
at virtually every intersection.  This is to say, as we approached the
cross-walk, slowing down in the approach for a red light, Seeing Eye would
perfectly announce the intersection.  Nearby Explorer, however, if it
announced the cross street at all, would consistently report it as being as
little as 50 yards ahead; more often than not, however, it would report the
intersection as being 250 or so yards ahead.  I was really surprised to see
intersections being announced only after we had passed through them by as
little as 100 feet or more.

At speed, Nearby Explorer consistently failed to announce intersections,
altogether.  

It almost seemed as though the app was/is not properly calibrated for being
used at sea level.  This is the only thing I can fathom as to why its
performance was so poor.  I'm not certain about the algorithm but I do know
that GPS apps must take into account their distance from the satellite in
order to compensate for the time delay, and subsequent calculations. 

It may also be a problem that its radius is simply set too far ahead.
Seeing Eye and, if memory serves, Mobile Geo would allow for distances as
close

RE: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[Rick Alfaro]

Hi Mark. Those are some very interesting observations and so completely 
different from what I heard on Mike's demo. I'd be really interested in knowing 
why the difference is so huge. I haven't purchased the app but if I had and 
experienced such terrible accuracy, I'd be asking for a refund. Hopefully, your 
notes will help them in finding the issues shown in your situation. Thanks for 
sharing the notes.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


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Subject: Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing 
Eye GPS

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
be announced.  

Note 9:
Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
auto-intersection announcements.

Comments:
Now that I've got all of that out of the way, I can tell you that Nearby
Explorer appears to be off by as little as 50 yards to as much as 200 yards
at virtually every intersection.  This is to say, as we approached the
cross-walk, slowing down in the approach for a red light, Seeing Eye would
perfectly announce the intersection.  Nearby Explorer, however, if it
announced the cross street at all, would consistently report it as being as
little as 50 yards ahead; more often than not, however, it would report the
intersection as being 250 or so yards ahead.  I was really surprised to see
intersections being announced only after we had passed through them by as
little as 100 feet or more.

At speed, Nearby Explorer consistently failed to announce intersections,
altogether.  

It almost seemed as though the app was/is not properly calibrated for being
used at sea level.  This is the only thing I can fathom as to why its
performance was so poor.  I'm not certain about the algorithm but I do know
that GPS apps must take into account their distance from the satellite in
order to compensate for the time delay, and subsequent calculations. 

It may also be a problem that its radius is simply set too far ahead.
Seeing Eye and, if memory serves, Mobile Geo would allow for distances as
close as 15 feet and approach auto-announcements as close as 50 feet.  

I really do find that the extreme distances that Nearby Explorer offer are
of virtually no used to me as either a pedestrian or rider.  To say that
something is 300 yards ahead, has no real meaning to me but to say that
something is 20 feet ahead is something I can definitely relate to.

Thank you for considering my comments.

Mark

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Results of Testing Nearby Explorer in a Vehicle, as Compared to Seeing Eye GPS

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I sent the following to A.P.H. in response to a test request:

Mark

Post:
Hello Rob, et al,

Okay, I ran a couple of tests with Nearby Explorer, in a vehicle:

Note 1:
I have enough vision to be able to see the physical intersections as I
approach them, in a vehicle, and as they pass.

Note 2:
The average speed of the car I was riding in did not exceed 50 miles per
hour and averaged between 35 to 45 miles per hour.

Note 3:
I ran test with (1) only the approach set to be automatically announced and
(2) only the street name set to be automatically announced.  In either case,
the results were the same.

Note 4:
There was absolutely no cloud cover in my location today.  It was a
beautifully sunny day.  Also, as I live near the beach, there are/were no
structures blocking my view of the sky.

Note 5:
While I ran Nearby Explorer on my 128GB iPhone 6 Plus, I simultaneously ran
Seeing Eye GPS XT on my 64GB iPhone 5 S, for real-time comparison.  

Note 6:
I ran both apps with the screen turned off.

Note 7:
Seeing Eye consistently reported greater GPS accuracy than did Nearby
Explorer.

Note 8:
Please be aware that I am only concerned with and, therefore tested for
intersection announcements while free walking.  This is to say, rarely, if
ever, do I use any GPS routing so cannot comment as to the accuracy of that
feature.  To me, the most valuable aspect of a GPS solution is the ability
to simply launch the app and have cross-street/intersections automatically
be announced.  

Note 9:
Okay, having said all of this, even on an older device, Seeing Eye GPS was
remarkably more accurate than Nearby Explorer in the area of free-walking,
auto-intersection announcements.

Comments:
Now that I've got all of that out of the way, I can tell you that Nearby
Explorer appears to be off by as little as 50 yards to as much as 200 yards
at virtually every intersection.  This is to say, as we approached the
cross-walk, slowing down in the approach for a red light, Seeing Eye would
perfectly announce the intersection.  Nearby Explorer, however, if it
announced the cross street at all, would consistently report it as being as
little as 50 yards ahead; more often than not, however, it would report the
intersection as being 250 or so yards ahead.  I was really surprised to see
intersections being announced only after we had passed through them by as
little as 100 feet or more.

At speed, Nearby Explorer consistently failed to announce intersections,
altogether.  

It almost seemed as though the app was/is not properly calibrated for being
used at sea level.  This is the only thing I can fathom as to why its
performance was so poor.  I'm not certain about the algorithm but I do know
that GPS apps must take into account their distance from the satellite in
order to compensate for the time delay, and subsequent calculations. 

It may also be a problem that its radius is simply set too far ahead.
Seeing Eye and, if memory serves, Mobile Geo would allow for distances as
close as 15 feet and approach auto-announcements as close as 50 feet.  

I really do find that the extreme distances that Nearby Explorer offer are
of virtually no used to me as either a pedestrian or rider.  To say that
something is 300 yards ahead, has no real meaning to me but to say that
something is 20 feet ahead is something I can definitely relate to.

Thank you for considering my comments.

Mark

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Seeing Eye GPS - distance between points

[Jeremy]

Hi all, 

For those using the Seeing Eye GPS, is there a way of determining the
distance between two points? For example, if I want to know the distance
between my doctor's office and a restaurant? 

I will appreciate absolutely all help. :) 

JR 


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Is anyone else having problems renewing a one-month subscription to Seeing Eye GPS?

[englishrider91]

I had to call Apple in order to get you for other attempts I made reversed, but 
a sensually what's happening is that I tap the renew for one month button, or 
whatever it's called, and go through the process of purchasing it, and then 
nothing happens. I still get the message that the subscription has expired at 
the top of the screen. Spooning if that message are the two renewal options, 
then a piece of text that says "in progress." I've tried closing the app from 
the app switcher, restarting the phone, and even deleting and reinstalling the 
app, and none of those things have made a difference. I'm afraid to try the 
purchase again, for fear it won't work, and I'll just end up with another $10 
charge. I don't know what else to do at this point.


Thanks,
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Re: Seeing Eye app

[Richard Turner]

Try writing iph...@senderogroup.com


HTH, 
Richard

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> On May 19, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
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Seeing Eye app

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I keep trying to renue my app subscription. It says I’ve bought it, but will 
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The Sendero Seeing Eye GPS update today...

[Ed Worrell]

Hello listers,

There is an update for the Seeing Eye GPS application today that fixes the 
issue of voice feed back not working whilst the screen is locked. 

Just wanted everyone to know they are listening…

Thanks,

Ed Worrell

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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Pinky]

Do these headset work with people that are severe hard of hearing and wear 
hearing aids?
Ed

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Ron Pelletier
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Subject: RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

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>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>
>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Wayne Merritt]

I like having BlindSquare in one earbud since part of my daily trip
home has me riding on the bus and I don't want to disturb other
passengers. Plus, I can listen to tunes while I'm getting information
from BlindSquare. The problem I have with bone conduction headphones
is most of the ones I have looked at, don't fit my large head. And
they are not adjustable like headphones. I do also take the earbud out
before crossing streets.

As stated earlier though, different strokes for different folks.

Wayne

On 4/8/16, Jim Ruby <j...@blindsea.com> wrote:
> I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange
> environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and
> only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along
> with google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough
> options. I will say that having it distinguish what side of the street you
> and or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in
> the future?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dianne B. Phelps
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
>
>
>
> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high
> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that
> I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near
> enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is
> telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with
> my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going
> on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>
>
>
> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Jim Ruby]

I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange 
environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and 
only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along with 
google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough 
options. I will say that having it distinguish what side of the street you and 
or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in the 
future?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

 

I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high for 
this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that I 
can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near enough to 
my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is telling me. I am 
afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide 
because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This 
has been my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to hold 
the de ice where I can hear it. 

 

They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.

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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

I didn't like the comfort of those headphones. Great idea though.Regards,
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
> 
> Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
> purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
> bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.
> 
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>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
>> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
>> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
>>> remove the ear bud when crossing streets.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
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>>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dianne,
>>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>>> >
>>> > Wayne
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone >>> 
>>> >>> too high
>>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> >>> >>> is
>>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the >>> 
>>> >>> phone
>>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> >>> >>> it
>>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which >>> 
>>> >>> comes
>>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and >>> 
>>> >>> what is
>>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these >>> 
>>> >>> navigational
>>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> >>> >>> no
>>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Sendero Seeing Eye GPS V Blind Square.

[Dianne B. Phelps]

Wayne,

 

Thank you for your wonderful suggestion. Unfortunately, my left ear is so
much weaker than my right that splitting the work between two won't work
well for me. I am almost tempted to obtain Those new JAW BONES type
earphones which works on the bone conduction of the sound. I wish I had a
store nearby where I could see those to see if splitting things that way
might work.

 

My left ear took a concussive blow in my accident and I have very little in
my high frequencies, making speech going into that left ear a kind of
garble.

 

Again, I do appreciate the suggestion very much.

 

Dianne B. Phelps

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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Andy Baracco]

This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Feliciano Godoy

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.


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On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.

At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
remove the ear bud when crossing streets.


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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone 
>>> too high
>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the 
>>> phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which 
>>> comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and 
>>> what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>>> navigational
>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> no

>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>>
>>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't purchased 
one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too bad it 
doesn't work with the iPhone.  

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i remove 
>> the ear bud when crossing streets.
>> 
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>> Feliciano
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>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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>> > Dianne,
>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> >>> high
>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>> >>> navigational
>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>> >>>
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Ann Byrne]

You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your 
collar or somewhere near your ear.  This leaves 
your ears free and the GPS info available.

At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. 
For safety reasons, i remove the ear bud when crossing streets.


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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price 
for their product has gone too high

>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue 
with most of these navigational

>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>>
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i remove 
the ear bud when crossing streets. 

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> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
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> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Wayne Merritt]

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
this setup has worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high
>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
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RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Larry,

As Ed said, we all have different needs and expectations, from what you 
describe Blindsquare does a better job in these open areas, but for “normal” 
navigation along streets and in situations where you may want turn-by-turn 
directions the SeeingEye app does a very good job. Can you get good results 
with Blindsquare and another app like Apple Maps or Google Maps? Yes, probably, 
but that is where choice is a nice thing.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

Hi Ed.  I turned on my route and started walking with the screen locked and got 
no info.  The use I make of a gps app is to navigate in open areas off the 
street map.  Our apartment complex is huge with lots of things I need like the 
dumpster, entrances and mailboxes in open areas in big parking lots.  After 
setting up breadcrumbs in blindsquare and setting my alert distance properly, 
blindsquare talks me to any point I want to arrive at, and does especially well 
when I tell it to track to it.  I can query the app from the controller of my 
aftershokz headset clipped to my shirt pocket.  If I can’t get seeing eye to do 
this, it is of no use to me.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

Hello Larry,

I assume that your sounds are not muted. I believe if the sounds on the phone 
are muted. I.e. the switch on the side of the phone is switched to the mute 
option the internal voice will not work on the Seeing Eye app. If all of the 
settings are on for background app usage it should be working…

I am not sure what could be going wrong.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
<llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

Ed, background refresh was on in both the app and in the phone settings and 
still no go.  I initiated a route I had made to my dumpster and started it and 
then locked my phone.  I got no information at all when walking it.
The same thing happened when driving down the street.  With the phone unlocked 
seeing eye did give me passing streets and intersections but nothing when the 
phone was locked.  Am I missing something.  Blindsquare reports items 
beautifully with the screen locked.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

Hello,

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

I hope that this helps.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore 
<bmo...@screenreview.org<mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org>> wrote:

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

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On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, 
englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell 
<blindworr...@gmail.com<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Guys,

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the lo

RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Brian,

The Seeing Eye app works just fine in Canada, maps are accessed via data, at 
this point there is no way to download maps. I also like the app quite a lot, 
but of course I also don’t have too use it all that much, mostly just when I am 
in Vancouver. One thing I like about Apple Maps is that I can use SIRI to tell 
the app that I want a route to a certain address or point of interest and most 
of the time that works very well. The one thing where the Seeing Eye app still 
has all other apps beat is with intersection detail. I just like it that the 
app tells me that I am at an intersection even if it is a T intersection with 
the cross street coming out across from where I might be walking. Without the 
information that it is a 3-way intersection I might wonder where on earth that 
cross street is.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian Moore
Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.


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On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, 
englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell 
<blindworr...@gmail.com<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Guys,

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards,
Feliciano
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On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, 
englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright 
<yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I too found BlindSquare better for look aroun

Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high 
> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that 
> I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near enough 
> to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is telling me. I 
> am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide 
> because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This 
> has been my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to hold 
> the de ice where I can hear it. 
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Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Dianne B. Phelps]

I am sorry to say that Sendero's price for their product has gone too high
for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that
I can't found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near
enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is
telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with
my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going
on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it. 

 

They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.

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RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi Ed.  I turned on my route and started walking with the screen locked and got 
no info.  The use I make of a gps app is to navigate in open areas off the 
street map.  Our apartment complex is huge with lots of things I need like the 
dumpster, entrances and mailboxes in open areas in big parking lots.  After 
setting up breadcrumbs in blindsquare and setting my alert distance properly, 
blindsquare talks me to any point I want to arrive at, and does especially well 
when I tell it to track to it.  I can query the app from the controller of my 
aftershokz headset clipped to my shirt pocket.  If I can’t get seeing eye to do 
this, it is of no use to me.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hello Larry,

 

I assume that your sounds are not muted. I believe if the sounds on the phone 
are muted. I.e. the switch on the side of the phone is switched to the mute 
option the internal voice will not work on the Seeing Eye app. If all of the 
settings are on for background app usage it should be working…

 

I am not sure what could be going wrong.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Ed, background refresh was on in both the app and in the phone settings and 
still no go.  I initiated a route I had made to my dumpster and started it and 
then locked my phone.  I got no information at all when walking it.

The same thing happened when driving down the street.  With the phone unlocked 
seeing eye did give me passing streets and intersections but nothing when the 
phone was locked.  Am I missing something.  Blindsquare reports items 
beautifully with the screen locked.

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hello,

 

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

 

I hope that this helps.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore < <mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org> 
bmo...@screenreview.org> wrote:

 

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.




Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM,  <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell < <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> 
blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Guys, 

 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

 

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy < 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi,

You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards, 

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE .. <htt

RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

I do not have mute on.  I did hear a voice in the background once but it was 
very faint.  Know how I can raise its volume?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hello Larry,

 

I assume that your sounds are not muted. I believe if the sounds on the phone 
are muted. I.e. the switch on the side of the phone is switched to the mute 
option the internal voice will not work on the Seeing Eye app. If all of the 
settings are on for background app usage it should be working…

 

I am not sure what could be going wrong.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

 

Ed, background refresh was on in both the app and in the phone settings and 
still no go.  I initiated a route I had made to my dumpster and started it and 
then locked my phone.  I got no information at all when walking it.

The same thing happened when driving down the street.  With the phone unlocked 
seeing eye did give me passing streets and intersections but nothing when the 
phone was locked.  Am I missing something.  Blindsquare reports items 
beautifully with the screen locked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hello,

 

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

 

I hope that this helps.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore < <mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org> 
bmo...@screenreview.org> wrote:

 

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.




Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM,  <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell < <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> 
blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Guys, 

 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

 

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy < 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi,

You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards, 

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE .. <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v> facebook.com/theblindman12v

Follow  <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM,  <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaro

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Mike Arrigo]

Seeing eye does not store maps off line. Blindsquare is much more 
automatic, seeing eye will announce the streets when you get to them, 
but blindsquare provides more information automatically and I think 
it's better than seeing eye at this point.

Original message:
well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps. not sure if it even has maps 
for Canada but easy enough to find out. does it store maps off line? 
would prefer not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be 
handy. With blind square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I 
mostly use it when going somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I 
am. Typically, for route planning, I use google maps to get turn by 
turn or work out transit things in cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get 
maps properly.



Brian.





Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123>


On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:



I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like 
it. One of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the 
app's fault, was that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. 
Google Maps and Lyft used to do this as well, but both of those apps 
are now running great on my iPhone 6S, so hopefully the same will be 
true for Seeing Eye GPS.




Thanks,
Ari
On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell < 
<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>blindworr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:





Hey Guys,


I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app 
much more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the 
app with the newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app 
screen are now all on one level, and for low vision users they have 
added some new text and interface color options. Just a note I am not 
low vision but my business partner loves the improvements to the low 
vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look around features of 
The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again different 
strokes for different folks.



Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.



Ed



On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:



Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long 
inside the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my 
location to get updates. Hope that helps.Regards,

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates,
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
Follow 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>englishride...@gmail.com 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:




I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I 
think BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something 
that will tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used 
to do before it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do 
what I want, but does it do it automatically, or can I do something to 
make it happen? I'd rather have the feature be a manual control, like 
in Sendero Lookaround.




Thanks,
Ari
On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright < 
<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:




I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero 
GPS on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the 
turn by turns. Price wise, I switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it 
ever since. I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told 
that I can virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. 
As soon as I figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice 
practice. This was a feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.



Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:




I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be 
great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get 
theinformation i need.



Regards,
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates,
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
Follow 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com&g

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Larry,

I assume that your sounds are not muted. I believe if the sounds on the phone 
are muted. I.e. the switch on the side of the phone is switched to the mute 
option the internal voice will not work on the Seeing Eye app. If all of the 
settings are on for background app usage it should be working…

I am not sure what could be going wrong.

Ed
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Ed, background refresh was on in both the app and in the phone settings and 
> still no go.  I initiated a route I had made to my dumpster and started it 
> and then locked my phone.  I got no information at all when walking it.
> The same thing happened when driving down the street.  With the phone 
> unlocked seeing eye did give me passing streets and intersections but nothing 
> when the phone was locked.  Am I missing something.  Blindsquare reports 
> items beautifully with the screen locked.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps
>  
> Hello,
>  
> It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
> maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open 
> Street Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the 
> settings.
>  
> I hope that this helps.
>  
> Ed
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore <bmo...@screenreview.org 
>> <mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org>> wrote:
>>  
>> well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
>> Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would 
>> prefer not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With 
>> blind square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it 
>> when going somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for 
>> route planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit 
>> things in cities where I have never been.
>> I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
>> properly.
>> 
>> Brian.
>> 
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123>
>> On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. 
>>> One of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's 
>>> fault, was that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and 
>>> Lyft used to do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great 
>>> on my iPhone 6S, so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey Guys, 
>>>>  
>>>> I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much 
>>>> more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with 
>>>> the newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now 
>>>> all on one level, and for low vision users they have added some new text 
>>>> and interface color options. Just a note I am not low vision but my 
>>>> business partner loves the improvements to the low vision aspect of the 
>>>> app now. I have found the look around features of The Seeing Eye app to 
>>>> more than adequate. But once again different strokes for different folks.
>>>>  
>>>> Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.
>>>>  
>>>> Ed
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long 
>>>>> inside the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location 
>>>>> to get updates. Hope that helps.Regards, 
>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>>> <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/thebl

RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[M. Taylor]

I just wanted to say that I concur with Ed in that I am a huge fan of Seeing 
Eye GPS.  

While I am so grateful to the developer of Blind Square, for such a marvelously 
comprehensive app, I find that, for day-to-day navigation on busses and in 
taxis, etc, I use Seeing Eye more often.

Mark 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

Hello,

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

I hope that this helps.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore <bmo...@screenreview.org> wrote:

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Guys, 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards, 
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, 
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.

Regards, 
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, 
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up

RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

Ed, background refresh was on in both the app and in the phone settings and 
still no go.  I initiated a route I had made to my dumpster and started it and 
then locked my phone.  I got no information at all when walking it.

The same thing happened when driving down the street.  With the phone unlocked 
seeing eye did give me passing streets and intersections but nothing when the 
phone was locked.  Am I missing something.  Blindsquare reports items 
beautifully with the screen locked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hello,

 

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

 

I hope that this helps.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore <bmo...@screenreview.org 
<mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org> > wrote:

 

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would prefer 
not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With blind 
square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it when going 
somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for route 
planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit things in 
cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
properly.

Brian.



Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey Guys, 

 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

 

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards, 

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v> 

Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> 


On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>  wrote:

I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Richard Turner]

And, for the person who wondered about wether any GPS tells you the side of the 
street, Seeing Eye GPS does. For example, in Portland Oregon, where I am, we 
have lots of streets that eithemake t intersections or jog a ways from where 
they cross the intersecting street. So Seeing Eye might say, 33rd pl on the 
left, and then a little while later, 33rd pl on the right, etc.
Richard


Sent from my iPod 6

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much 
> more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the 
> newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on 
> one level, and for low vision users they have added some new text and 
> interface color options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business 
> partner loves the improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I 
> have found the look around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than 
> adequate. But once again different strokes for different folks.
> 
> Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.
> 
> Ed
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside 
>> the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get 
>> updates. Hope that helps.Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
>>> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
>>> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
>>> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before 
>>> it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but 
>>> does it do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd 
>>> rather have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero 
>>>> GPS on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the 
>>>> turn by turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it 
>>>> ever since. I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that 
>>>> I can virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon 
>>>> as I figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This 
>>>> was a feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
>>>>> turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be 
>>>>> great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get 
>>>>> theinformation i need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>>>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought 
>>>>>> up sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed 
>>>>>> to it.  I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and 
>>>>>> got not a peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the 
>>>>>> screen and got a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported 
>>>>>> using blindsquare.  I will gladly trade the lack of intersection 
>>>>>> analysis in blindsquare for its much more supportive stance with the 
>>>>>

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

I found that the 4Sq option for POIs is much more accurate in finding things 
near you. The Google maps option isn’t always the closest option. Before you do 
a search. In the search screen there is an option to switch the POI source if 
you select the 4Sq option it seems to pull in closer options.

Thanks,

Ed
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> When I ask for a category/restaurants for instance, in the Seeing Eye app how 
> do I get it to tell me restaurants within perhaps a mile or 1.5 miles or even 
> shorter? They seem to give me the names on the other side of town. Thanks.
> 
> reggie & Lex
> 
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
> <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
> 
> Blindsquare tells me my nearest intersection automaticly.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 5:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps
>  
> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it 
> broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it 
> do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have 
> the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS 
> on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by 
> turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I 
> use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually 
> walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how 
> to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
> frequently on my Sendero GPS.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
> directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
> blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, 
> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
> 
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
> <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
> sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  I 
> invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a peep 
> out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got a 
> little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  I 
> will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its 
> much more supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could include 
> intersection analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.
>  
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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

It uses the Google maps. It might have the Canada maps as it does not store 
maps off line. It just gets it’s maps info from google or even the Open Street 
Maps Project. It all depends on which one you have selected in the settings.

I hope that this helps.

Ed
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:36 PM, Brian Moore <bmo...@screenreview.org> wrote:
> 
> well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps for 
> Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? would 
> prefer not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be handy.  With 
> blind square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I mostly use it 
> when going somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I am.  Typically, for 
> route planning, I use google maps to get turn by turn or work out transit 
> things in cities where I have never been.
> I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get maps 
> properly.
> 
> Brian.
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123>
> On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. 
>> One of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, 
>> was that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft 
>> used to do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my 
>> iPhone 6S, so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell < 
>> <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>blindworr...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Guys,
>>> 
>>> I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much 
>>> more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with 
>>> the newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now 
>>> all on one level, and for low vision users they have added some new text 
>>> and interface color options. Just a note I am not low vision but my 
>>> business partner loves the improvements to the low vision aspect of the app 
>>> now. I have found the look around features of The Seeing Eye app to more 
>>> than adequate. But once again different strokes for different folks.
>>> 
>>> Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside 
>>>> the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get 
>>>> updates. Hope that helps.Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> Follow  
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM,  
>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>englishride...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
>>>>> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I 
>>>>> think BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something 
>>>>> that will tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used 
>>>>> to do before it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what 
>>>>> I want, but does it do it automatically, or can I do something to make it 
>>>>> happen? I'd rather have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero 
>>>>> Lookaround.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright < 
>>>>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero 
>>>>>> GPS o

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Larry,

You have to make sure that the background refresh option is turned on in 
settings on your phone, and in the settings tab of the Seeing Eye App. It works 
very well on my phone.
I hope that this helps.

Ed
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Blindsquare functions with the screen locked and I can’t seem to get that to 
> happen in seeing eye.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ed Worrell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps
>  
> Hey Guys,
>  
> I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much 
> more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the 
> newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on 
> one level, and for low vision users they have added some new text and 
> interface color options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business 
> partner loves the improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I 
> have found the look around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than 
> adequate. But once again different strokes for different folks.
>  
> Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.
>  
> Ed
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside 
>> the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get 
>> updates. Hope that helps.Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
>>> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
>>> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
>>> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before 
>>> it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but 
>>> does it do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd 
>>> rather have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero 
>>>> GPS on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the 
>>>> turn by turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it 
>>>> ever since. I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that 
>>>> I can virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon 
>>>> as I figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This 
>>>> was a feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
>>>>> turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be 
>>>>> great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get 
>>>>> theinformation i need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>>> <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
>>>>> <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>>>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead

RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

Blindsquare functions with the screen locked and I can’t seem to get that to 
happen in seeing eye.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ed Worrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

Hey Guys,

 

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

 

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

 

Ed

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards,

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE .. <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v> facebook.com/theblindman12v

Follow  <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM,  <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> 
englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright < <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy < 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.

Regards,

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE .. <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v> facebook.com/theblindman12v

Follow  <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> www.twitter.com/theblindman12v


On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin < <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  I 
invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a peep 
out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got a little 
info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  I will 
gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its much more 
supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could include intersection 
analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.

 

 

 

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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Brian Moore]

well, perhaps I should try seeing eye gps.  not sure if it even has maps 
for Canada but easy enough to find out.  does it store maps off line? 
would prefer not as I have a rather large data bucket but it might be 
handy.  With blind square, the announcement stuff is pretty automatic. I 
mostly use it when going somewhere new to keep me clued in on where I 
am.  Typically, for route planning, I use google maps to get turn by 
turn or work out transit things in cities where I have never been.
I have navigon but last time I tried, I couldn't work out how to get 
maps properly.


Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 04/06/2016 2:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like 
it. One of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the 
app's fault, was that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. 
Google Maps and Lyft used to do this as well, but both of those apps 
are now running great on my iPhone 6S, so hopefully the same will be 
true for Seeing Eye GPS.



Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com 
<mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hey Guys,

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app 
much more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the 
app with the newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app 
screen are now all on one level, and for low vision users they have 
added some new text and interface color options. Just a note I am not 
low vision but my business partner loves the improvements to the low 
vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look around features 
of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again different 
strokes for different folks.


Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

Ed
On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long 
inside the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my 
location to get updates. Hope that helps.Regards,

Feliciano
For tech tips and updates,
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v 
<http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
Follo.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>


On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM,englishride...@gmail.com 
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com>wrote:


I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like 
the turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection 
analisous, I think BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly 
need something that will tell me my nearest intersection, like 
Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. So, my question is, 
I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather 
have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.



Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright 
<yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my 
Sendero GPS on my voice note. I did like it because it was so 
similar with the turn by turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and 
have been enjoying it ever since. I use it with Navagon and it has 
been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk through an area 
to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do it 
I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy 
<theblindman...@hotmail.com <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> 
wrote:


I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the 
turn by turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on 
blindsquare, it'd be great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with 
google maps and i get theinformation i need.


Regards,
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates,
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v 
<http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
Follo.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
<http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>


On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:


Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare 
and blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  
I brought up sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered 
and then routed to it.  I invoked the route and began walking 
with the screen locked and got not a peep out of the app during 
the entire route. I unlocked the screen and got a little info 
but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  I 
will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in 
blindsquare for its much more supportive stance with the use

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[englishrider91]

I may just try the free 30 day trial option again, and see how I like it. One 
of the reasons I didn't like it, and this wasn't really the app's fault, was 
that it ran super, super slowly on my iPhone 4S. Google Maps and Lyft used to 
do this as well, but both of those apps are now running great on my iPhone 6S, 
so hopefully the same will be true for Seeing Eye GPS.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much 
> more intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the 
> newest update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on 
> one level, and for low vision users they have added some new text and 
> interface color options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business 
> partner loves the improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I 
> have found the look around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than 
> adequate. But once again different strokes for different folks.
> 
> Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.
> 
> Ed
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside 
>> the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get 
>> updates. Hope that helps.Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
>>> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
>>> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
>>> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before 
>>> it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but 
>>> does it do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd 
>>> rather have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero 
>>>> GPS on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the 
>>>> turn by turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it 
>>>> ever since. I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that 
>>>> I can virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon 
>>>> as I figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This 
>>>> was a feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
>>>>> turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be 
>>>>> great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get 
>>>>> theinformation i need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>>>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought 
>>>>>> up sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed 
>>>>>> to it.  I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and 
>>>>>> got not a peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the 
>>>>>> screen and got a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported 
>>>>>> using blindsquare.  I will gladly trade the lack of intersection 
>>>>>> analysis in blindsquare for its much more supportive stance with the 
>>>>>> user.  If blindsqu

Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Regina Alvarado]

When I ask for a category/restaurants for instance, in the Seeing Eye app how 
do I get it to tell me restaurants within perhaps a mile or 1.5 miles or even 
shorter? They seem to give me the names on the other side of town. Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Apr 6, 2016, at 9:35 AM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Blindsquare tells me my nearest intersection automaticly.
 
 
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I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
 
 
Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.

Regards,
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, 
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  I 
invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a peep 
out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got a little 
info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  I will 
gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its much more 
supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could include intersection 
analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.
 
 
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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Ed Worrell]

Hey Guys,

I am on the opposite side of the coin. I find the Seeing Eye GPS app much more 
intuitive for my use. I really love the improvements to the app with the newest 
update. The tabs down at the bottom of the app screen are now all on one level, 
and for low vision users they have added some new text and interface color 
options. Just a note I am not low vision but my business partner loves the 
improvements to the low vision aspect of the app now. I have found the look 
around features of The Seeing Eye app to more than adequate. But once again 
different strokes for different folks.

Just thought I would throw my two sense into the conversation.

Ed
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside 
> the app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get 
> updates. Hope that helps.Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, 
> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
> 
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
>> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
>> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
>> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before 
>> it broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but 
>> does it do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd 
>> rather have the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS 
>>> on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by 
>>> turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. 
>>> I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can 
>>> virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I 
>>> figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a 
>>> feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
>>>> turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be 
>>>> great. I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get 
>>>> theinformation i need.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
>>>> <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
>>>>> sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to 
>>>>> it.  I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got 
>>>>> not a peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen 
>>>>> and got a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using 
>>>>> blindsquare.  I will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in 
>>>>> blindsquare for its much more supportive stance with the user.  If 
>>>>> blindsquare could include intersection analysis, I would consider it a 
>>>>> truly great app.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
You can change the intersection distance from short, medium or long inside the 
app setting. I periodicaly shake my phone to check my location to get updates. 
Hope that helps.Regards,
Feliciano
For tech tips and updates, 
LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:03 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
> turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
> BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will 
> tell me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it 
> broke. So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it 
> do it automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have 
> the feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS 
>> on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by 
>> turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. 
>> I use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can 
>> virtually walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I 
>> figure out how to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a 
>> feature I used frequently on my Sendero GPS.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by 
>>> turn directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. 
>>> I use blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i 
>>> need.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates, 
>>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
>>>> sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it. 
>>>>  I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not 
>>>> a peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and 
>>>> got a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using 
>>>> blindsquare.  I will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in 
>>>> blindsquare for its much more supportive stance with the user.  If 
>>>> blindsquare could include intersection analysis, I would consider it a 
>>>> truly great app.
>>>>  
>>>>  
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RE: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

Blindsquare tells me my nearest intersection automaticly.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 5:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

 

I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.

Regards,

Feliciano

For tech tips and updates, 

LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v <http://facebook.com/theblindman12v> 

Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> 


On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com 
<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  I 
invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a peep 
out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got a little 
info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  I will 
gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its much more 
supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could include intersection 
analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.

 

 

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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[englishrider91]

I tried Seeing Eye GPS a while back, and while I really did like the 
turn-by-turn directions, and especially the intersection analisous, I think 
BlindSquare may be a better fit for me. I mostly need something that will tell 
me my nearest intersection, like Sendero Lookaround used to do before it broke. 
So, my question is, I know BlindSquare can do what I want, but does it do it 
automatically, or can I do something to make it happen? I'd rather have the 
feature be a manual control, like in Sendero Lookaround.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Apr 6, 2016, at 12:56 AM, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS 
> on my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by 
> turns. Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I 
> use it with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually 
> walk through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how 
> to do it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
> frequently on my Sendero GPS.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
>> directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
>> blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, 
>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
>>> sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  
>>> I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a 
>>> peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got 
>>> a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  
>>> I will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for 
>>> its much more supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could 
>>> include intersection analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.
>>>  
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Re: head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Robert Wright]

I tried Seeing eye because it was from the company that made my Sendero GPS on 
my voice note. I did like it because it was so similar with the turn by turns. 
Price wise, I  switched to BSQ and have been enjoying it ever since. I use it 
with Navagon and it has been a treat. I was told that I can virtually walk 
through an area to see what is around there. As soon as I figure out how to do 
it I'm going to practice practice practice. This was a feature I used 
frequently on my Sendero GPS.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I too found BlindSquare better for look around features. If the turn by turn 
> directions of seeing eye gps can be had on blindsquare, it'd be great. I use 
> blindsquare simotaniously with google maps and i get theinformation i need.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, 
> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
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> 
>> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin <llump...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and 
>> blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up 
>> sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.  
>> I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a 
>> peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got 
>> a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.  
>> I will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its 
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head to head blindsquare and sendero seeing eye gps

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hello.  I just made a comparison between sendero and blindsquare and
blindsquare came out head and shoulders ahead for my needs.  I brought up
sendero and got a breadcrumb to my dumpster entered and then routed to it.
I invoked the route and began walking with the screen locked and got not a
peep out of the app during the entire route.  I unlocked the screen and got
a little info but not much.  I felt much more supported using blindsquare.
I will gladly trade the lack of intersection analysis in blindsquare for its
much more supportive stance with the user.  If blindsquare could include
intersection analysis, I would consider it a truly great app.

 

 

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False alarm Re: Do not install seeing eye GPS 2.11

[Richard Turner]

I heard back from Sendero very quickly. Apparently, I just had a bad download, 
which I should have thought of, but deleting the app and reinstalling it fixed 
the issue. So if you have it, install it. If you don't and want to try it out, 
apparently there is now a 30 day free trial.
Here is what it says in the what's new; note no mention of the free trial.
 
Integrated iOS 9 optimization, now the app loads in half the time.

· Updated the Google Map SDK.

· Added indoor beacons to the POI sources for indoor orientation 
through Boni’s LoudSteps SDK.

· Added Magic tap gesture to repeat the last spoken route instruction 
when a route is loaded.

· Added a Repeat button to the route loaded, location and visual map 
screen when a route is loaded.

· Route instructions are numbered.

· Current route instruction is highlighted in the route details.

· Completely redesigned the visual user interface for low vision users, 
adding various text and background color themes.

· Replaced the menu buttons with menu tabs.

· Increased text font size.

· Removed the flashing yellow text for app announcements.

· Increased size of Next Turn symbol on route navigation screen.

· Added the ability to select orientation announcement preferences 
between clock-face & right/left, clock-face, or right/left.

. Updated Boni Loud Steps SDK.
Richard



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> On Mar 24, 2016, at 6:29 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you have Seeing Eye GPS, do not install the 2.11 update that just showed 
> up in the app store.
> I tried it on my work iPhone 6, and it kicks me out of the app after about 30 
> seconds or less. They are trying to do a 30 day free trial.
> As I recall, KNFB Reader tried that and it also failed miserably.
> I have written SenderoGroup.
> Richard
> 
> 
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Do not install seeing eye GPS 2.11

[Richard Turner]

If you have Seeing Eye GPS, do not install the 2.11 update that just showed up 
in the app store.
I tried it on my work iPhone 6, and it kicks me out of the app after about 30 
seconds or less. They are trying to do a 30 day free trial.
As I recall, KNFB Reader tried that and it also failed miserably.
 I have written SenderoGroup.
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

 While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is happening with 
bBluetooth beacons and this app?

thanks, Sandy


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> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
> 
> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
> other features.
> 
> 
>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to a
>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just not
>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it, but
>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Wayne Merritt]

I have no problems in using BlindSquare with Google Maps, though
dealing with two different voices giving you information is
interesting at times. I prefer Google Maps over other map apps.
BlindSquare is a lot cheaper than Seeing Eye and according to a
coworker who also has it, BlindSquare puts out updates more frequently
than the other as well. I can't vouch for this since I only have used
BlindSquare.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 2/12/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>  While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is happening
> with bBluetooth beacons and this app?
>
> thanks, Sandy
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
>> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
>> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
>> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
>>
>> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
>> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
>> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
>> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
>> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
>> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
>> other features.
>>
>>
>>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
>>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
>>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to
>>> a
>>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
>>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just
>>> not
>>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it,
>>> but
>>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Feliciano Godoy]

In my opinion, blindsquare is much superior for look around features when 
comparing to seeing eye GPS. Google maps plus blindsquare simultaneously is a 
great combo.

Regards,
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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have no problems in using BlindSquare with Google Maps, though
> dealing with two different voices giving you information is
> interesting at times. I prefer Google Maps over other map apps.
> BlindSquare is a lot cheaper than Seeing Eye and according to a
> coworker who also has it, BlindSquare puts out updates more frequently
> than the other as well. I can't vouch for this since I only have used
> BlindSquare.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 2/12/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is happening
>> with bBluetooth beacons and this app?
>> 
>> thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
>>> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
>>> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
>>> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
>>> 
>>> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
>>> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
>>> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
>>> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
>>> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
>>> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
>>> other features.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
>>>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
>>>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to
>>>> a
>>>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
>>>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just
>>>> not
>>>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it,
>>>> but
>>>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ari
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Wayne Merritt]

Yes, when you have a place or favorite pulled up, if you choose the
Plan a Route button, in that menu you can choose whether you want
Apple Maps or Google Maps, or another GPS app you have on your phone.

Wayne

On 2/12/16, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> Is there a way to preferentially get BlindSquare to open Google Maps instead
> of Apple Maps? Thanks, Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?
>
> In my opinion, blindsquare is much superior for look around features when
> comparing to seeing eye GPS. Google maps plus blindsquare simultaneously is
> a great combo.
>
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates,
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>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have no problems in using BlindSquare with Google Maps, though
>> dealing with two different voices giving you information is
>> interesting at times. I prefer Google Maps over other map apps.
>> BlindSquare is a lot cheaper than Seeing Eye and according to a
>> coworker who also has it, BlindSquare puts out updates more frequently
>> than the other as well. I can't vouch for this since I only have used
>> BlindSquare.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Wayne
>>
>>> On 2/12/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is
>>> happening
>>> with bBluetooth beacons and this app?
>>>
>>> thanks, Sandy
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
>>>> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
>>>> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
>>>> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
>>>>
>>>> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
>>>> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
>>>> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
>>>> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
>>>> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
>>>> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
>>>> other features.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've
>>>>> heard
>>>>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find
>>>>> it
>>>>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero
>>>>> Lookaround
>>>>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm
>>>>> just
>>>>> not
>>>>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it,
>>>>> but
>>>>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
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RE: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Is there a way to preferentially get BlindSquare to open Google Maps instead of 
Apple Maps? Thanks, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

In my opinion, blindsquare is much superior for look around features when 
comparing to seeing eye GPS. Google maps plus blindsquare simultaneously is a 
great combo.

Regards,
Feliciano
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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have no problems in using BlindSquare with Google Maps, though
> dealing with two different voices giving you information is
> interesting at times. I prefer Google Maps over other map apps.
> BlindSquare is a lot cheaper than Seeing Eye and according to a
> coworker who also has it, BlindSquare puts out updates more frequently
> than the other as well. I can't vouch for this since I only have used
> BlindSquare.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 2/12/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is happening
>> with bBluetooth beacons and this app?
>> 
>> thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
>>> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
>>> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
>>> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
>>> 
>>> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
>>> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
>>> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
>>> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
>>> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
>>> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
>>> other features.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
>>>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
>>>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to
>>>> a
>>>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
>>>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just
>>>> not
>>>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it,
>>>> but
>>>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ari
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Yes, simply choose Apple Maps rather them Google maps.

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> On Feb 12, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to preferentially get BlindSquare to open Google Maps instead 
> of Apple Maps? Thanks, Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Feliciano Godoy
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?
> 
> In my opinion, blindsquare is much superior for look around features when 
> comparing to seeing eye GPS. Google maps plus blindsquare simultaneously is a 
> great combo.
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>> On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no problems in using BlindSquare with Google Maps, though
>> dealing with two different voices giving you information is
>> interesting at times. I prefer Google Maps over other map apps.
>> BlindSquare is a lot cheaper than Seeing Eye and according to a
>> coworker who also has it, BlindSquare puts out updates more frequently
>> than the other as well. I can't vouch for this since I only have used
>> BlindSquare.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 2/12/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> While we are speaking of blind Square, does anyone know what is happening
>>> with bBluetooth beacons and this app?
>>> 
>>> thanks, Sandy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
>>>> includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
>>>> from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
>>>> Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.
>>>> 
>>>> You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
>>>> you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
>>>> navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
>>>> rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
>>>> support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
>>>> simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
>>>> other features.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
>>>>> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
>>>>> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to
>>>>> a
>>>>> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
>>>>> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just
>>>>> not
>>>>> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it,
>>>>> but
>>>>> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
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Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[englishrider91]

Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard good 
things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it difficult to 
follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to a specific cross 
street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround isn't cutting it 
anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just not sure which solution 
to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it, but maybe GM+BS would suit me 
better. What do you all think?


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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Brice Smith]

The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.

You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
other features.


On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to a
> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just not
> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it, but
> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: Google Maps+Blindsquare or Seeing Eye GPS?

[Terje Strømberg]

and it depends of where you are living or wisiting. Apple Maps + Blind Square 
sendt me contrary direction. About 500 meters.  Both apps was absolutely sure i 
was at destination. It may be best to test both Seeing Eye and Blind Square. I 
am havning issues with the personal POI’s at some places in Blind Square 
lately. Its strange. I suspect something, but kno nothing. 
Take care

11. feb. 2016 kl. 20:04 skrev Brice Smith <brsmith2...@gmail.com>:

The Seeing Eye app gives detailed information about intersections,
includes turn-by-turn directions and can also optionally pull POIs
from Google Places instead of just four Square. Otherwise, Google (or
Apple) maps plus BlindSquare is a fantastic combination.

You won’t get detailed intersection information with BlindSquare. But
you get an arguably smoother UI; the ability to plan a route with the
navigation application of your choice (and thus live traffic
rerouting, which Seeing Eye's turn-by-turn navigation does not
support), less battery drain than the Seeing Eye App, the ability to
simulate your destination and explore the new area, plus plenty of
other features.


On 2/11/16, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sendero Lookaround GPS hasn't been working for me lately, and I've heard
> good things about Blindsquare. I use Google Maps, but sometimes find it
> difficult to follow its walking directions. Knowing when I've gotten to a
> specific cross street is kind of important, and since Sendero Lookaround
> isn't cutting it anymore, I need something that'll do the job. I'm just not
> sure which solution to go with here. I've tried SE GPS, and liked it, but
> maybe GM+BS would suit me better. What do you all think?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
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Re: Seeing eye GPS

[Nancy Badger]

I believe I have fixed it by reinstalling the app. Just for others info.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
> Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
> It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having 
> trouble? Any solutions yet?
> Thanks
> Nancy
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Re: Seeing eye GPS

[Tom Lange]

Hi. I haven't had any isskes with crashes, but I've noticed that it takes a 
while to get up and running. I've also noticed some really screwy results with 
the app.  The other day I was using it on my way home from work and I had it 
calculate a vehicle route, which worked fine. But the ETA information was 
wildly inaccurate. It gave me an ETA of five hours, thirty-five minutes, when 
Google Maps gave me a more realistic forty or forty-five minutes.  I don't knoj 
why that is but I'll definitely have to write to Sendero about that.  

Tom

 

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> Hello,
> Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
> It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having 
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> Thanks
> Nancy
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RE: Seeing eye GPS

[Amy Ruel]

Hi,
I used it with my iPhone 6s without difficulty on Thursday. I did have crashes 
about 2 weeks ago but deleting and installing the app fixed it.


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Brett
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Subject: Re: Seeing eye GPS

Hi, 

I used it yesterday on my iPhone 6 without any issues. I mention the iPhone 
version in case it makes a difference. 

Cheers, Brett. 


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> Nancy
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Re: Seeing eye GPS

[Brett]

Hi, 

I used it yesterday on my iPhone 6 without any issues. I mention the iPhone 
version in case it makes a difference. 

Cheers, Brett. 


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> Thanks
> Nancy
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Seeing eye GPS

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having trouble? 
Any solutions yet?
Thanks
Nancy

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UT Chattanooga
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Fw: [gps-talkusers] New User POI recording coming soon to the Seeing Eye GPS and others

[Robert Doc wright]

I thought I'd give you all a heads up that we are making good progress on user 
POI recording on all 4 versions of the Seeing Eye GPS for the iPhone. We have 
also expanded the destination history list from 2 items to 25 items.

 

The User POI interface will be similar to other Sendero products where you 
record the name, the Category and a tag like Door Main or Driveway. You will be 
able to share your user POI file with others via Email or AirDrop. You can also 
use Email to back up your points.

 

I will certainly have something to show folks at the conventions and I would 
hope it would be released soon thereafter.

 

I will be helping at the Uber Technology booth July 4-5 in Dallas, July 6 and 7 
in Orlando and July 8 and 9 in Montreal at the International Mobility 
Conference. Hope to see you there.

 

Mike


 

 

Michael May, CEO

Sendero Group, Davis California

Developers of accessible GPS

Sendero Phone: 888-757-6810, extension 101

Home Office: 530-757-6900

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Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com

General GPS web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com

Mike May Personal: http://www.CrashingThrough.com

 

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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

In Blind Square you can adjust how early you want to hear an intersection.  You 
can set it to short medium or long.  The default is medium.

Ron  Danvers
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having to 
touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only when you 
arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching streets from a 
distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your current address and 
how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the 
seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should 
do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:
 Hello,

 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any 
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
 ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
 looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of 
 purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps 
 for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to 
 take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing 
 Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, 
 but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the 
 current products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 Joe

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Andy Baracco]

I wonder if immediate conditions determine when you get these announcements. 
Yesterday these announcements either came when we were at the intersection, 
or shortly after.


Andy


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Hi,

In Blind Square you can adjust how early you want to hear an intersection. 
You can set it to short medium or long.  The default is medium.


Ron  Danvers


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Of Mike Arrigo

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Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having 
to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only 
when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching 
streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your 
current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn 
directions the way the seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for 
that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year
ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself
looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of
purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps
for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to
take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing
Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare,
but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the
current products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Joe



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