RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-08 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
Based on the demo I saw on YouTube, there are not default times and temps. Each 
menu has its own defaults. I think the easiest way to go about this would be 
with Aira or beMyEyes to just get the ones for what you actually make. I know 
she said the defaults were fine for rice, but from her description, vegetables 
needed to be less than the default. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi Dan,
I can't seem to find a user manual online.  Is it possible you could send me a 
cheat sheet of what the default times and temps are for the functions or a link 
to a user manual so I'd know what my starting point is?
Thanks,
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi,
We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
However, both time and temperature do not talk.
Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
so.



Dan


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
> should they fix the issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>> recipes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. 
>>> That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the 
>>> total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. 
>>> So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>> Johna
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Johna, 
>>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
>>>> we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
>>>> was that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the 
>>>> default. I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, 
>>>> the one you got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still 
>>>> have to do a cheat sheet. So I’m

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-08 Thread Johna Gravitt
Hi Dan,
I can't seem to find a user manual online.  Is it possible you could send me a 
cheat sheet of what the default times and temps are for the functions or a link 
to a user manual so I'd know what my starting point is?
Thanks,
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi,
We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
However, both time and temperature do not talk.
Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
so.



Dan


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
> should they fix the issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>> recipes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. 
>>> That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the 
>>> total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. 
>>> So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>> Johna
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Johna, 
>>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
>>>> we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
>>>> was that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the 
>>>> default. I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, 
>>>> the one you got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still 
>>>> have to do a cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>>>>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>>>>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>>>>> there's no p

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On Thu, Mar 4, 2021, 6:07 PM Mary Otten  wrote:

> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that
> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since
> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be
> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a
> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-07 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
There is a really great and largely accessible video demo of the coocoo cooker 
on Yourtube if you search for demo cooker multicooker. Gosh, she could have 
done just a little more and it would be totally accessible. She demos the 
talking menus, and you can observe that the time and temp do not talk although 
she doesn't comment on that. At first she doesn't wait long enough for any 
menus to talk,but then she does and it's quite cool. Most of the things she 
made could be at the default time, she thought that the vegetables were a 
little done to her liking and from her description, I agree. But it sounds 
pretty useable.
Apple is having trouble with Bluetooth and some braille products too so you're 
darned if you do and darned if you don't on these upgrades. 
But I think that all in all if my Instant Pot doesn't work after the next 
upgrade, I'm likely to buy this coocoo thing instead rather than give these 
people any more of my money. 
Although you can press buttons and set the instant pot by hand if you know what 
you're doing, it won't tell you when you've come to full pressure etc. I don't 
like not having any info about what it's doing. 
My sister says she doesn't know about accessibility, but the wIfI instant pot 
is wonky in her view. 
So just some observations. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
Reeder
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 10:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I asked about the app that controls the BlueTooth IP in a Facebook group for 
blind people who discuss cooking with small electric kitchen appliances. Two 
people have responded that the WiFi app is “mostly accessible.” One can 
apparently also set pressure level and time with Alexa. I don’t know how 
closely one can monitor cooking while using the app with VoiceOver. I am not 
eager to buy a new Instant Pot, but i don’t want to forego updating my Iphone 
either. Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> The Bluetooth Instant pot app was perfectly accessible. The problem is that 
> it no longer will open. As for the other one, the one with Wi-Fi, I don’t own 
> that, so I have no way of testing it out. But the Bluetooth app is simply 
> gone. It will not open and it is no longer in the App Store not being 
> supported.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
>> possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
>> screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
>> apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both 
>> apps are no longer updated. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
>>> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Mary,
>>>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>>>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>>>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, 
>>>> then they are monumentally stupid.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>>>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank 
>>>> you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
>>>>> good info for users of t

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-07 Thread Penny Reeder
I asked about the app that controls the BlueTooth IP in a Facebook group for 
blind people who discuss cooking with small electric kitchen appliances. Two 
people have responded that the WiFi app is “mostly accessible.” One can 
apparently also set pressure level and time with Alexa. I don’t know how 
closely one can monitor cooking while using the app with VoiceOver. I am not 
eager to buy a new Instant Pot, but i don’t want to forego updating my Iphone 
either. Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2021, at 1:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> The Bluetooth Instant pot app was perfectly accessible. The problem is that 
> it no longer will open. As for the other one, the one with Wi-Fi, I don’t own 
> that, so I have no way of testing it out. But the Bluetooth app is simply 
> gone. It will not open and it is no longer in the App Store not being 
> supported.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
>> possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
>> screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
>> apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both 
>> apps are no longer updated. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
>>> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Mary,
>>>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>>>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>>>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, 
>>>> then they are monumentally stupid.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>>>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank 
>>>> you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
>>>>> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
>>>>> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
>>>>> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
>>>>> beta tester but read my license agreement(s). 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes 
>>>>>>> that Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update 
>>>>>>> it. Since they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update 
>>>>>>> won’t be happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now 
>>>>>>> a paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-07 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Donna,
The Bluetooth Instant pot app was perfectly accessible. The problem is that it 
no longer will open. As for the other one, the one with Wi-Fi, I don’t own 
that, so I have no way of testing it out. But the Bluetooth app is simply gone. 
It will not open and it is no longer in the App Store not being supported.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
> possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
> screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
> apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both 
> apps are no longer updated. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
>> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Mary,
>>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, 
>>> then they are monumentally stupid.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is 
>>>> good info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential 
>>>> Information. You might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. 
>>>> Read the terms and conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a 
>>>> beta tester but read my license agreement(s). 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It's exactly what companies want, now even large and small appliances are 
loaded with technology which makes products which people otherwise had for 10 
or 15 years obsolete after a few years or at least many feel they then have to 
upgrade in order to get the latest. Of course at the same time the same 
companies often then talk about how much they do for the environment and 
recycling. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. Yesterday, I 
busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's phone and just 
use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out I've still got 
the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with my IP and made 
sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for now, I'll be able 
to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future since I don't need 
that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm the exception to this 
situation. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Donna Casteen
Hi,

I do not own this kitchen appliance, so I can not test my idea. And it is 
possible that other beta testers have thought of this-Has anyone tried using 
screen recognition with the app while using IOS 14.5 beta?? I have a couple 
apps that only work with IOS 14.5 beta if screen recognition is used. Both apps 
are no longer updated. 

Donna
 
> 
> Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it 
> seems pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Mary,
>> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to 
>> update if it breaks accessibility.
>> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
>> they are monumentally stupid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>>> my license agreement(s). 
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I'd say thanks for the update or alert to this if I was a user of the product,

But if you are a public beta tester,
Then I'd hope you have fed the issue back to apple regarding what is happening.

 But again thanks for letting us know.

It could help people figure out issues when / if 14.5 is released to the world.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, 7 March 2021 6:06 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Thanks for your clarification. I was, but now I know it wasn’t directed at me.
Thanks 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> If you're referring to my email, it wasn't directed at you. I was directing 
> it at the person who said only a few misguided blind people honor the NDA 
> they agreed to when they joined the beta program. You said the exact 
> opposite. In other words, I'm directing this at the person who said you are 
> misguided.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
> MacDonald
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
> Subject: Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]
> 
> I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA 
> , and abide by them whole heartedly. 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
>> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
>> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
>> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics 
>> that violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, 
>> but I suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners 
>> and moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. 
>> You're probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
>> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the 
>> Apple beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's 
>> beta programs. 
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
>> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> 
>>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>>> my license agreement(s). 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you're referring to my email, it wasn't directed at you. I was directing it 
at the person who said only a few misguided blind people honor the NDA they 
agreed to when they joined the beta program. You said the exact opposite. In 
other words, I'm directing this at the person who said you are misguided.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Daniel 
MacDonald
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Daniel Macdonald 
Subject: Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA   
, and abide by them whole heartedly. 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
> violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
> suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
> moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
> probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple 
> beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta 
> programs. 
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Johna Gravitt
Just adding my two cents for what it’s worth, when I spoke to Insta pot 
customer service, and actually ask them about accessibility issues they told me 
to use the Bluetooth model but then told me that they were no longer supporting 
it. I told them that I had purchased a smart Wi-Fi model and that app was not 
accessible at that time and they said they had no plans on updating it for the 
first seeable future, then they told me to purchase a Bluetooth one. I said to 
them why would I purchase the Bluetooth if it’s no longer being supported and 
they said because it was the only one blind people should use. I really don’t 
like them, or their customer service, or their business model. Just my two 
cents worth. My daughter will now be happy with me because she is getting my 
Insta pot

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
> complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
> WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit 
> of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what 
> guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting 
> edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their 
> estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or 
> even want Alexa?
> Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
> outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
> surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. Yesterday, I 
> busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's phone and just 
> use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out I've still 
> got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with my IP and 
> made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for now, I'll 
> be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future since I 
> don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm the 
> exception to this situation. 
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
> Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
> Shawnese (LEO)
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
> newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
> previous smart cooker app. 
> 
> It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
> members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 
> 
> Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
> app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
> blind or visually impaired. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
> ab...@michigan.gov
> 
> 
> 
> Johna,
> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that 
> I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I 
> could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got 
> sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat 
> sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>> 
>> Johna
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behal

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Kay Malmquist
Well, that sucks.  Pretty much what I thought, but it was worth trying.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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- Original Message - 
From: "Deb Cook Lewis" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


No, it doesn't work. Once it's gone from the App store it's not available to 
download at all.
Family Sharing just shows apple that you're entitled, it doesn't actually 
make anything available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and 
put the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope 
this makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
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- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though.
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default.
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a
cheat s

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Deb Cook Lewis
No, it doesn't work. Once it's gone from the App store it's not available to 
download at all.
Family Sharing just shows apple that you're entitled, it doesn't actually make 
anything available.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and put 
the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope this 
makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out 
I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with 
my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for 
now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future 
since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm 
the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major dif

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
I don't think that works, but it would be worth a try.
Just don't delete it from the phone it is on or you won't get it back.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and put 
the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope this 
makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message -
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer mo

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Kay Malmquist
Does anyone know if an app is not listed in the app store and you have it on 
your iphone, as a family sharing thing can I go back to an older phone and 
put the app on there using the download option from family sharing?  I hope 
this makes sense.  In other words, even though it's not listed, is it still 
downloadable?

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2021 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer 
WIFI model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the 
habit of replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, 
what guaranty is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and 
cutting edge today will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in 
their estimation? Once bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't 
have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not 
terribly surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. 
Yesterday, I busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's 
phone and just use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns 
out I've still got the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection 
with my IP and made sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least 
for now, I'll be able to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable 
future since I don't need that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm 
sure I'm the exception to this situation.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the 
Instant Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app.

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something.

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the 
new app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are 
blind or visually impaired.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn't mean to devalue your message. It's just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn't actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
cheat sheet. So I'm kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
> wrote:
>
> ?The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I'm just wondering how 
> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don't have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but 
>> it doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming acr

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz
Yeah, it sucks. You can already imagine their answer if we reach out to 
complain about this development to them. well, can we recommend the newer WIFI 
model that has Alexa support built in? As if everyone else has the habit of 
replacing their pressure cooker every 5 or so years and besides, what guaranty 
is there that in another 4 or 5 years, what's current and cutting edge today 
will be yesterday's news and not worth supporting in their estimation? Once 
bitten, twice shy etc. That and what if you don't have or even want Alexa?
Back when this Bluetooth model came out, I figured that the actual IP would 
outlast the app by a long shot, so I guess in that respect, it's not terribly 
surprising, but it's still frustrating. I am fortunate though. Yesterday, I 
busted out my old SE that I stopped using as my second line's phone and just 
use it for music streaming and other stuff like that. Turns out I've still got 
the IP Bluetooth app on their. I reenabled the connection with my IP and made 
sure that automatic iOS updates are disabled so at least for now, I'll be able 
to use my IP with an iOS device for the foreseeable future since I don't need 
that device to be current on iOS anyway, but I'm sure I'm the exception to this 
situation. 

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>>

Re: NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
I never intended to come across this way. I appolagise. I never float any NDA   
, and abide by them whole heartedly. 

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
> agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose 
> to honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make 
> the same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
> violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
> suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
> moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
> probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're 
> encouraging people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple 
> beta doesn't come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta 
> programs. 
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
IN fact, there are a lot of YouTube videos put out talking far more extensively 
about beta content that I think truly go overboard, but Apple does nothing to 
lock those down, so a few blind people talking about accessibility issues on a 
list that Apple probably completely ignores isn't going to put anyone at Apple 
nose's out of joint.

Normally, I would be saying not to disclose this information, but it is 
critical information that could impact the use of a product that people paid 
good money for, so it warrants being exposed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it seems 
pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
> if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it seems 
pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
> if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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NDA's [was "RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5"]

2021-03-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
So you're saying that people who actually honor a legally binding NDA they 
agreed to are misguided? I think you have that backwards. You may not choose to 
honor something you agreed to but that doesn't mean others who don't make the 
same decision you do are misguided. I'm also pretty sure that topics that 
violate the NDA with Apple are not supposed to be posted to this list, but I 
suppose you flaunt list guidelines and the wishes of the list owners and 
moderators just as you do the legally binding documents you agree to. You're 
probably right in that nothing will come of this, but I hope you're encouraging 
people to disregard the terms of their participation in the Apple beta doesn't 
come back to haunt this list or the future of Apple's beta programs. 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Richard Turner
Thank you Mary,
I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
if it breaks accessibility.
And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
they are monumentally stupid.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Mary Otten
Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided blind 
people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary,
> 
> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
> license agreement(s). 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Johna Gravitt
You are absolutely correct!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Daniel MacDonald
Hello Mary,

This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read my 
license agreement(s). 

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that is 
> not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that Bluetooth 
> thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since they don’t 
> make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. I wish I 
> knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to the 
> developers and to iOS.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Unfortunately it is my experience that Instant Brands, the name of the Instant 
Pot company, does not really care too much about accessibility. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO)
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happeni

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-05 Thread Johna Gravitt
Any way I could talk you into sending me your cheat sheet or what the factory 
default settings are for my records?
Thanks,
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

hi,

The screen shows everything in Fahrenheit.

I created a sheet sheet, and whenever I need to I reset everything back to 
factory defaults so that I know what the different settings are.




Dan


> On Mar 5, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I do have one question for you.  I have found out that one of the reasons it 
> does not talk with time and temperature is due to something about the 
> software not being able to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit.  My question is, if 
> a sighted person is looking at it, do they see temperature in Celsius?  Have 
> you come up with a work around for setting time and temperature on your own 
> or do you need sighted assistance?
> Thanks,
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
> Keys
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Hi,
> We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
> However, both time and temperature do not talk.
> Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
> so.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
>> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
>> should they fix the issue.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, 
>>>> and the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>>> recipes.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with 
>>>> it. That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, 
>>>> not the total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at 
>>>> pressure. So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to 
>>>> whatever pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a 
>>>> special recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really 
>>>> curious how in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>>> Johna
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>&

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-05 Thread Danny Keys
hi,

The screen shows everything in Fahrenheit.

I created a sheet sheet, and whenever I need to I reset everything back to 
factory defaults so that I know what the different settings are.




Dan


> On Mar 5, 2021, at 4:49 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I do have one question for you.  I have found out that one of the reasons it 
> does not talk with time and temperature is due to something about the 
> software not being able to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit.  My question is, if 
> a sighted person is looking at it, do they see temperature in Celsius?  Have 
> you come up with a work around for setting time and temperature on your own 
> or do you need sighted assistance?
> Thanks,
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
> Keys
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Hi,
> We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
> However, both time and temperature do not talk.
> Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
> so.
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
>> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
>> should they fix the issue.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, 
>>>> and the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>>> recipes.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with 
>>>> it. That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, 
>>>> not the total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at 
>>>> pressure. So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to 
>>>> whatever pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a 
>>>> special recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really 
>>>> curious how in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>>> Johna
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>>> 
>>>>> Johna, 
>>>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
>>>>> we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
>>>>>

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-05 Thread Johna Gravitt
Dan,
I do have one question for you.  I have found out that one of the reasons it 
does not talk with time and temperature is due to something about the software 
not being able to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit.  My question is, if a sighted 
person is looking at it, do they see temperature in Celsius?  Have you come up 
with a work around for setting time and temperature on your own or do you need 
sighted assistance?
Thanks,
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Danny 
Keys
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Hi,
We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
However, both time and temperature do not talk.
Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
so.



Dan


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
> should they fix the issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>> recipes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. 
>>> That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the 
>>> total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. 
>>> So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>> Johna
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Johna, 
>>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
>>>> we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
>>>> was that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the 
>>>> default. I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, 
>>>> the one you got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still 
>>>> have to do a cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>>>>> them, it walks you th

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Danny Keys
Hi,
We have the Cuckoo and I love it.
However, both time and temperature do not talk.
Also, it is possible to reset back to factory defaults if you ever need to do 
so.



Dan


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from 
> the company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware 
> should they fix the issue.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
>> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>>> recipes.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this 
>>> thing a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. 
>>> That’s what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the 
>>> total time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. 
>>> So that is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>>> Johna
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Johna, 
>>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what 
>>>> we just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot 
>>>> was that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the 
>>>> default. I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, 
>>>> the one you got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still 
>>>> have to do a cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>>>>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>>>>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>>>>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>>>>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Johna
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Mary Otten
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does n

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
It’s temperature that doesn’t talk. However, I’m waiting on a callback from the 
company to see if they have any plans on how to update the firmware should they 
fix the issue.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
> things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
>> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
>> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
>> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
>> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
>> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
>> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
>> recipes.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this thing 
>> a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. That’s 
>> what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the total 
>> time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. So that 
>> is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
>> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
>> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
>> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on 
>>> updates to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>>> Johna
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Johna, 
>>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
>>> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
>>> that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
>>> I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
>>> got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
>>> cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>>>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>>>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>>>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>>>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> Johna
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>>>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>>>>> says you can control your WiFi model via your

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks. I wonder why that sighted guy could not figure that out. but it’s 
things like time adjustment that don’t talk, right?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and 
> the screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into 
> account the time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to 
> release steam, but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
> For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
> pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into 
> account build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook 
> recipes.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this thing 
> a dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. That’s 
> what this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the total 
> time. All the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. So that 
> is a showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever 
> pre-programmed recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special 
> recipe book which is probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how 
> in the heck you use this thing with real regular recipes?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I 
>> had such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
>> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on updates 
>> to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
>> Johna
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Johna, 
>> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
>> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
>> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was 
>> that I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. 
>> I could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you 
>> got sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a 
>> cheat sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>>> 
>>> Johna
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>>>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but 
>>>> it doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across 
>>>> chatter on this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't 
>>>> pay much attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine 
>>>> for me.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart c

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
When you use the pressure function you set it to the time in pressure, and the 
screen will show more time than what you set because it takes into account the 
time it takes to build up to pressure and the time it takes to release steam, 
but time in pressure will be what you set it for.  
For example: if you set it for 20 minutes that's how long it will be under 
pressure cook, but the screen may show 30 minutes because it takes into account 
build up and steam release so you could use regular pressure cook recipes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this thing a 
dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. That’s what 
this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the total time. All 
the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. So that is a 
showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever pre-programmed 
recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special recipe book which is 
probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how in the heck you use this 
thing with real regular recipes?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I had 
> such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on updates 
> to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Johna, 
> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that 
> I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I 
> could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got 
> sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat 
> sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>> 
>> Johna
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to 
>>> see how that could possibly work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it 
>>>> to the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app 
>>>> always worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. 
&

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
I looked on Amazon, and I found a review which for me, would make this thing a 
dealbreaker. You can’t use regular pressure cooker recipes with it. That’s what 
this guy said. The time should be the time at pressure, not the total time. All 
the pressure cooker recipes are based on time at pressure. So that is a 
showstopper, unless you want to limit yourself to whatever pre-programmed 
recipes are in their thing, or they might have a special recipe book which is 
probably not accessible. So now I’m really curious how in the heck you use this 
thing with real regular recipes?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I had 
> such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each 
> function I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on updates 
> to work, I feel this one will better meet my needs.
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Johna, 
> I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
> device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
> just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that 
> I could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I 
> could tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got 
> sounds OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat 
> sheet. So I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press 
>> them, it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device 
>> itself talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that 
>> there's no pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
>> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>> 
>> Johna
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to 
>>> see how that could possibly work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it 
>>>> to the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app 
>>>> always worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. 
>>>> Maybe those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app 
>>>> can chime in.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Shannon Dyer
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I 
>>>> also have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>> 
>>>> Shannon
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, 

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
Here's a link to the one I bought but I got it on QVC not amazon.
https://smile.amazon.com/Cuckoo-CMC-QSN501S-SUPERIOR-Pressure-Stainless/dp/B0786XV8Q6/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1=Cuckoo+5-qt+8-in-1+Multi-Pressure+Cooker=1614889557=8-1-spons=1=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFFSzhJWkQ4R0pCQUsmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAxNTgzNDkxT0lYNlRHNTA4TzJHJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0MjI4MjYxMU5WOEtGQUcyQ1BUJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Caitlyn 
Furness
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Sorry, which cooker is this again?  It sounds very nice.  I am wanting to know 
for when my insta pot dies.

Thanks,
Cait


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
> 
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
I had the blue tooth model and yes it was absolutely awesome. I now have the 
newer model and I like the device but the app that runs it is not like the 
previous smart cooker app. 

It is very difficult to operate. Most of the time I have my sighted family 
members to set it to avoid overcooking something. 

Maybe we need to reach out to the company and voice our concerns with the new 
app and ask that they make it more user friendly for those of us who are blind 
or visually impaired. 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

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Johna,
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
>
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>
>>> Shannon
>>>
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>> list.
>>>>
>>&g

RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
I understand. I realize it's a loss in some respects, but for me since I had 
such bad luck with my instant pot and this one at least tells me each function 
I'm using and without relying on a smart app that relies on updates to work, I 
feel this one will better meet my needs.
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Johna, 
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
> 
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Sorry, which cooker is this again?  It sounds very nice.  I am wanting to know 
for when my insta pot dies.

Thanks,
Cait


> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
> 
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Kay Malmquist
Instant pot:  800-828-7280

I don't have an email address, but this might help.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
Author Unknown.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Otten" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2021 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5


I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it's not on the 
damned beta. I don't see anything in here that would let you write to the 
company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair this 
phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I don't 
want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because they 
say if you're going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It was 
working great until the app didn't work anymore. It won't even open.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>
> ?Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There's a way to 
> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
>
> With Alexa, but i really don't want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
> iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> ?For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don't make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won't be 
>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Johna, 
I didn’t mean to devalue your message. It’s just that it sounds like this 
device that you got doesn’t actually offer as much Accessibility as what we 
just lost. The thing I like the most about the Bluetooth instant pot was that I 
could actually control it. I could change the time from the default. I could 
tell what was going on. How much time was left etc. So, the one you got sounds 
OK, except it smaller than the IP. And you still have to do a cheat sheet. So 
I’m kind of bummed by the whole thing.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, 
> it walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself 
> talks, no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no 
> pressure valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
> Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
> 
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread rick.alfaro
So sorry to hear that. Very annoying as my Instant Pot Bluetooth cooker has 
been working just fine.





Warmest regards

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Well, bummer. I guess that means they’ve discarded it and we won’t see more 
updates. How annoying! Now I wish I had made a back up using a computer before 
I put the beta profile on my device. But I actually don’t know how to do that 
on windows, so I didn’t bother. Oh well.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried to find the app in the app store and it was not there.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on 
>> the damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to 
>> the company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair 
>> this phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I 
>> don’t want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because 
>> they say if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It 
>> was working great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
>>> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
>>> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
>>> 
>>> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
>>> iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten



Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> I’m sorry to mislead. The app that i used when i first got my IP included a 
> way to contact the company. When my IP stopped working, i did just that, and 
> they replaced the pot. Now, i don’t see any way to contact the company. Do we 
> know for sure that there’s no accessible app for using the WIFI model? I am 
> bummed! I depend on my InstantPot for all kinds of things, especially dry 
> beans and risotto. Penny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I mean... I just downloaded it from the app store. Probably back when the 
>> WIFI model came out and it was uncertain whether the Bluetooth model was 
>> going to continue to be supported etc. I just did a search in the app store 
>> and it comes up as the second or third result with like a 2 star rating. Not 
>> exactly encouraging as a simple user experience. 
>> Again though, as the smart cooker app kept going strong, I didn't bother 
>> playing with it as at that time, the app was really bad with VO from what 
>> everyone was saying. Again, I could simply be misremembering, but I could 
>> swear folks talking about how the Bluetooth model could also connect to this 
>> app somehow. 
>> This unfortunately will probably be the experience for all devices that 
>> depend on some sort of connectivity or app. The pressure cooker itself will 
>> probably last for many years to come, but how does that help us if the 
>> accessibility feature we specifically bought it for breaks because it's 
>> deemed no longer worth maintaining. 
>> Maybe someone can poke around on the IP site to get a definitive answer on 
>> this or play with their Bluetooth model, but I'm unfortunately in the middle 
>> of my work day and have already farted around enough online and don't really 
>> have time to do it myself.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how 
>> you manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to 
>>> see how that could possibly work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it 
>>>> to the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app 
>>>> always worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. 
>>>> Maybe those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app 
>>>> can chime in.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Shannon Dyer
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>>> 
>>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I 
>>>> also have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>>> 
>>>> Shannon
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do n

Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Penny Reeder
I’m sorry to mislead. The app that i used when i first got my IP included a way 
to contact the company. When my IP stopped working, i did just that, and they 
replaced the pot. Now, i don’t see any way to contact the company. Do we know 
for sure that there’s no accessible app for using the WIFI model? I am bummed! 
I depend on my InstantPot for all kinds of things, especially dry beans and 
risotto. Penny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I mean... I just downloaded it from the app store. Probably back when the 
> WIFI model came out and it was uncertain whether the Bluetooth model was 
> going to continue to be supported etc. I just did a search in the app store 
> and it comes up as the second or third result with like a 2 star rating. Not 
> exactly encouraging as a simple user experience. 
> Again though, as the smart cooker app kept going strong, I didn't bother 
> playing with it as at that time, the app was really bad with VO from what 
> everyone was saying. Again, I could simply be misremembering, but I could 
> swear folks talking about how the Bluetooth model could also connect to this 
> app somehow. 
> This unfortunately will probably be the experience for all devices that 
> depend on some sort of connectivity or app. The pressure cooker itself will 
> probably last for many years to come, but how does that help us if the 
> accessibility feature we specifically bought it for breaks because it's 
> deemed no longer worth maintaining. 
> Maybe someone can poke around on the IP site to get a definitive answer on 
> this or play with their Bluetooth model, but I'm unfortunately in the middle 
> of my work day and have already farted around enough online and don't really 
> have time to do it myself.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
> manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
>> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
>> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
>> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
>> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
>> how that could possibly work.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe 
>>> those who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can 
>>> chime in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>>> 
>>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
>>>> that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I mean... I just downloaded it from the app store. Probably back when the WIFI 
model came out and it was uncertain whether the Bluetooth model was going to 
continue to be supported etc. I just did a search in the app store and it comes 
up as the second or third result with like a 2 star rating. Not exactly 
encouraging as a simple user experience. 
Again though, as the smart cooker app kept going strong, I didn't bother 
playing with it as at that time, the app was really bad with VO from what 
everyone was saying. Again, I could simply be misremembering, but I could swear 
folks talking about how the Bluetooth model could also connect to this app 
somehow. 
This unfortunately will probably be the experience for all devices that depend 
on some sort of connectivity or app. The pressure cooker itself will probably 
last for many years to come, but how does that help us if the accessibility 
feature we specifically bought it for breaks because it's deemed no longer 
worth maintaining. 
Maybe someone can poke around on the IP site to get a definitive answer on this 
or play with their Bluetooth model, but I'm unfortunately in the middle of my 
work day and have already farted around enough online and don't really have 
time to do it myself.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
> how that could possibly work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
>> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
When I called instant pot for advice on their models they specifically told me 
they weren't supporting the blue tooth model anymore but that's the only model 
they suggested I use since I'm blind.  I told them I had the smart wi fi one 
and they said that they had no plans on updating that app and the manual for 
instant pots actually says a person with a visual impairment shouldn’t use 
them.  
That upset me so I'm donating my instant pot to my daughter and using my new 
coocoo multy cooker.  I realize that there are still some accessibility issues 
with this one but in my opinion it's much improved over the instant pot and 
they don't have any issues with blind people using their products.
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
> how that could possibly work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
>> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
The difference is all the menu options and buttons talk when you press them, it 
walks you through step by step what buttons to push, the device itself talks, 
no smart apps required.  The other major difference is that there's no pressure 
valve to worry about, it's all automatic.
Sorry, just trying to be helpful.

Johna
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
> how that could possibly work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
>> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I have never heard of that company or that device. And I’m really not 
interested in making a cheat sheet. I could make a cheat sheet for this device, 
the only thing is the time and temperature settings don’t talk here either. So 
what’s the difference?
I never had any problem with this IP. It was totally usable independently with 
the iPhone.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> May I strongly suggest you look into the talking 8 in 1 multy cooker 5 QT 
> from the company called Coocoo?  This is like an instapot, but it actually 
> talks  and walks you through steps of what you need to do to use it 
> successfully and independently.  I just purchased one because I got so tired 
> of my instapot and always needed some sort of assistance to use it.
> I got mine on QVC but it's available on amazon as well.
> There is one draw back though, the time and temp functions don't talk but the 
> way around that is that you could have a cheat sheet of what the presets are 
> for the functions and then you'd know how to adjust accordingly.  
> This is also a lot better in my opinion than the instant pot because there's 
> no pressure release valve that you need to adjust , this is all automatic and 
> there's no need to double check that your pressure vent is open or closed.
> If anyone's interested in more information I'll gladly share more.
> Johna
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on the 
> damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to the 
> company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair this 
> phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I don’t 
> want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because they 
> say if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It was 
> working great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
>> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
>> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
>> 
>> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
>> iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Do you have the newer model that works with Wi-Fi? I’m just wondering how you 
manage to get the Wi-Fi app if you don’t have that one.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it 
> says you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it 
> doesn't mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on 
> this and other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much 
> attention to it since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
> how that could possibly work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
>> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
>> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
>> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
>> 
>> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
>> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
>> 
>> Shannon
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I just opened up the "newer" IP app Remote Control for Smart WiFI and it says 
you can control your WiFi model via your smartphone "or" Alexa, but it doesn't 
mention the Bluetooth model. I just recall coming across chatter on this and 
other lists about this topic, but admittedly, I didn't pay much attention to it 
since the smart cooker app worked perfectly fine for me.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
how that could possibly work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
> 
> Shannon
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Johna Gravitt
May I strongly suggest you look into the talking 8 in 1 multy cooker 5 QT from 
the company called Coocoo?  This is like an instapot, but it actually talks  
and walks you through steps of what you need to do to use it successfully and 
independently.  I just purchased one because I got so tired of my instapot and 
always needed some sort of assistance to use it.
I got mine on QVC but it's available on amazon as well.
There is one draw back though, the time and temp functions don't talk but the 
way around that is that you could have a cheat sheet of what the presets are 
for the functions and then you'd know how to adjust accordingly.  
This is also a lot better in my opinion than the instant pot because there's no 
pressure release valve that you need to adjust , this is all automatic and 
there's no need to double check that your pressure vent is open or closed.
If anyone's interested in more information I'll gladly share more.
Johna

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on the 
damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to the 
company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair this 
phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I don’t 
want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because they say 
if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It was working 
great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
> 
> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
> iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Since the Bluetooth model has no way of connecting to Wi-Fi, I failed to see 
how that could possibly work.


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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to 
> the wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always 
> worked, but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those 
> who have a Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
> have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.
> 
> Shannon
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
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RE: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
I too have the Bluetooth model, but I thought you could also connect it to the 
wifi app. I never bothered doing so since the smart cooker app always worked, 
but I guess now I'll have to eventually make the plunge. Maybe those who have a 
Bluetooth IP and have played with the newer IP app can chime in.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shannon 
Dyer
Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.

Shannon

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
> the developers and to iOS.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Well, bummer. I guess that means they’ve discarded it and we won’t see more 
updates. How annoying! Now I wish I had made a back up using a computer before 
I put the beta profile on my device. But I actually don’t know how to do that 
on windows, so I didn’t bother. Oh well.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried to find the app in the app store and it was not there.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
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> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on 
>> the damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to 
>> the company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair 
>> this phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I 
>> don’t want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because 
>> they say if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It 
>> was working great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
>>> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
>>> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
>>> 
>>> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
>>> iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS 
 that is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
 Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
 they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
 happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
 paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
 
 
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Richard Turner
I tried to find the app in the app store and it was not there.



Richard

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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on the 
> damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to the 
> company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair this 
> phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I don’t 
> want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because they 
> say if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It was 
> working great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
>> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
>> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
>> 
>> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
>> iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
I just looked in the app, which opens on this phone, because it’s not on the 
damned beta. I don’t see anything in here that would let you write to the 
company or the developer. Unfortunately, I have not been able to pair this 
phone with my IP. Not sure why. But this is also my real phone, and I don’t 
want it stuck on 14.4 forever. I put the beta on my old phone, because they say 
if you’re going to do beta, you should do it on an older device. It was working 
great until the app didn’t work anymore. It won’t even open.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
> 
> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
> iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks, Penny. I will look inside the app and see what I find. Maybe I’m just 
not looking right on the App Store. But when I searched for “smart cooker“, I 
did not find that app. Maybe they just said that nobody is using it anymore, 
since now they have the new fancy one that’s not as accessible. Very annoying. 
Getting cited help to do some thing I’ve been doing ever since I bought my IP 
is very frustrating. Every day, it feels like they’re taking some more 
independence away someway or another.
I didn’t know the new device worked with Alexa. But I’m not all that excited 
about having to have something depend on Alexa. I don’t find Alexa all that 
reliable. All the questions I asked that she does not know answers to, and now 
she’s taking two and three times just to tell me how much I have left on a 
timer. It’s ridiculous.


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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
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> Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
> contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
> thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works
> 
> With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
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>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
>> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
>> the developers and to iOS.
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Shannon Dyer
If you do figure out how to contact the company, please let me know. I also 
have this pot and love it! I will not be updating.

Shannon

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
> the developers and to iOS.
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Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Penny Reeder
Oh no! I love my IP, and i use it at least once a week. There’s a way to 
contact the company the company from within the app i think. I had been 
thinking of replacing the IP, now that the new WI FI model  works

 With Alexa, but i really don’t want to do it right now. Penny Sent from my 
iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:07 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. 
> I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to 
> the developers and to iOS.
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Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

2021-03-04 Thread Mary Otten
For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that is 
not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that Bluetooth 
thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since they don’t make 
this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be happening. I wish I knew 
where to write. My instant pot is now a paperweight thanks to the developers 
and to iOS.


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