Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-24 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Sieghard,

I'm waiting on my reply to test this out with a friend in person. We got this 
to work for him a few months ago but I want to do this again to make sure we're 
not dreaming! :)

We tried this over the phone yesterday and it did not seem to work but we did 
have this going before so I want to make sure Ih have all my facts straight 
before I write back. That's all. :)

There's always a possibility this did work before and now does not etc. So I'll 
definitely respond again to this thread as soon as we have a few minutes to 
really take the time necessary to test this thoroughly again.

Thanks so much to you all and talk with you soon!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,

I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user can
enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I haven't seen
a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? I know a lot of
sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.

Thanks,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.

Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.

I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
to see it go! :)

A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
personally would go. :)

Great topic all, and have an awesome day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
OK, Cara, sounds good, but I bet you lunch next time I'm in LA that you
won't get it to work. Automatic switching to speakerphone when you take the
phone away from your ear does not exist if Voiceover is not running and if
it worked my guess would be that your friend accidently touched the
speakerphone button as he took the phone away from his ear.
There might be other explanations but they would require wild speculation on
my part regarding what was in your coffee that day *smile*.


Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi Sieghard,

I'm waiting on my reply to test this out with a friend in person. We got
this to work for him a few months ago but I want to do this again to make
sure we're not dreaming! :)

We tried this over the phone yesterday and it did not seem to work but we
did have this going before so I want to make sure Ih have all my facts
straight before I write back. That's all. :)

There's always a possibility this did work before and now does not etc. So
I'll definitely respond again to this thread as soon as we have a few
minutes to really take the time necessary to test this thoroughly again.

Thanks so much to you all and talk with you soon!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Cara,

I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user can
enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I haven't seen
a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? I know a lot of
sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.

Thanks,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.

Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.

I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
to see it go! :)

A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
personally would go. :)

Great topic all, and have an awesome day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-24 Thread Thom Spittle
Sieghard,
Here's a question for you though. If the switch to speakerphone is only for
voice over users, then did they put in the proximity sensor for only the
blind to use? 
I don't know of another app that uses this, with the exception of the lift
to talk with siri.
But iPhone 4 has the proximity sensor as well, and it doesn't have siri.
Hmmm..


Thom

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 OK, Cara, sounds good, but I bet you lunch next time I'm in LA that you
won't
 get it to work. Automatic switching to speakerphone when you take the
 phone away from your ear does not exist if Voiceover is not running and if
it
 worked my guess would be that your friend accidently touched the
 speakerphone button as he took the phone away from his ear.
 There might be other explanations but they would require wild speculation
 on my part regarding what was in your coffee that day *smile*.
 
 
 Take care,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi Sieghard,
 
 I'm waiting on my reply to test this out with a friend in person. We got
this
 to work for him a few months ago but I want to do this again to make sure
 we're not dreaming! :)
 
 We tried this over the phone yesterday and it did not seem to work but we
 did have this going before so I want to make sure Ih have all my facts
 straight before I write back. That's all. :)
 
 There's always a possibility this did work before and now does not etc. So
I'll
 definitely respond again to this thread as soon as we have a few minutes
to
 really take the time necessary to test this thoroughly again.
 
 Thanks so much to you all and talk with you soon!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Cara,
 
 I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user can
 enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I haven't
 seen a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? I know a
lot of
 sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.
 
 Thanks,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
 
 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
 
 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never
 want to see it go! :)
 
 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
 personally would go. :)
 
 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have
to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble
 at all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how
the 5s
 does with this.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds
 of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact, I
received a
 replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't auto
 focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.
 
 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching
to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button
 or would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi, everyone.
 
 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I
 double tap

RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Tom,

The proximity sensor is also important because it turns off the touch screen
if you hold your phone up to your ear. This of course is also the case for
somebody who doesn't run Voiceover since otherwise you would constantly
press stuff on your screen with your ear and cheek.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Sieghard,
Here's a question for you though. If the switch to speakerphone is only for
voice over users, then did they put in the proximity sensor for only the
blind to use? 
I don't know of another app that uses this, with the exception of the lift
to talk with siri.
But iPhone 4 has the proximity sensor as well, and it doesn't have siri.
Hmmm..


Thom

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 OK, Cara, sounds good, but I bet you lunch next time I'm in LA that 
 you
won't
 get it to work. Automatic switching to speakerphone when you take the 
 phone away from your ear does not exist if Voiceover is not running 
 and if
it
 worked my guess would be that your friend accidently touched the 
 speakerphone button as he took the phone away from his ear.
 There might be other explanations but they would require wild 
 speculation on my part regarding what was in your coffee that day *smile*.
 
 
 Take care,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi Sieghard,
 
 I'm waiting on my reply to test this out with a friend in person. We 
 got
this
 to work for him a few months ago but I want to do this again to make 
 sure we're not dreaming! :)
 
 We tried this over the phone yesterday and it did not seem to work but 
 we did have this going before so I want to make sure Ih have all my 
 facts straight before I write back. That's all. :)
 
 There's always a possibility this did work before and now does not 
 etc. So
I'll
 definitely respond again to this thread as soon as we have a few 
 minutes
to
 really take the time necessary to test this thoroughly again.
 
 Thanks so much to you all and talk with you soon!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Cara,
 
 I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user 
 can enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I 
 haven't seen a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? 
 I know a
lot of
 sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.
 
 Thanks,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
 
 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
 
 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never 
 never want to see it go! :)
 
 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I 
 personally would go. :)
 
 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't 
 have
to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much 
 trouble at all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, 
 let's see how
the 5s
 does with this.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds
 of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact, I
received a
 replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't auto 
 focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone 
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S 
 if anybody has that issue.
 
 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic 
 switching
to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone 
 button just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone 
 and this would completely get rid of this issue which has been an 
 issue

RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Rick Alfaro
Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Cara Quinn
I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.

Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.

I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want to 
see it go! :)

A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I personally 
would go. :)

Great topic all, and have an awesome day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Mike Arrigo
For me at least, I would prefer that this not be done automatically. 
IfI want touse the speaker phone, I can select it. This is one of those 
cases where I don't like the computer trying to make decisions for me.

Original message:

I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.



Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.


I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never 
want to see it go! :)


A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I 
personally would go. :)



Great topic all, and have an awesome day!



Smiles,



Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.





Best regards,



Rick Alfaro




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover



Hello Brice,



Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.



I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?




Regards,
Sieghard




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover



Hi, everyone.



Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.



I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?



Thanks,
Brice



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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Brice Smith
How can non-VO users use this feature?

If you turn voiceover off and take the phone away from your ear, it
doesn't automatically switch to speaker phone. Likewise, if the
speaker phone is activated and you triple click VO off and move the
phone toward your ear, the ear piece does not automatically activate.
Please clarify.

Thanks,
Brice

On 9/23/13, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.

 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.

 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
 to see it go! :)

 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
 personally would go. :)

 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!

 Smiles,

 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have
 to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
 all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
 5s does with this.



 Best regards,

 Rick Alfaro


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hello Brice,

 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
 I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
 auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.

 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
 would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi, everyone.

 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
 tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
 happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
 immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
 phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to
 speaker
 phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

 Thanks,
 Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Les Kriegler
This feature was put in for voiceover users.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 23, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How can non-VO users use this feature?
 
 If you turn voiceover off and take the phone away from your ear, it
 doesn't automatically switch to speaker phone. Likewise, if the
 speaker phone is activated and you triple click VO off and move the
 phone toward your ear, the ear piece does not automatically activate.
 Please clarify.
 
 Thanks,
 Brice
 
 On 9/23/13, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
 
 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
 
 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
 to see it go! :)
 
 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
 personally would go. :)
 
 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have
 to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
 all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
 5s does with this.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
 I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
 auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.
 
 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
 would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi, everyone.
 
 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
 tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
 happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
 immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
 phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to
 speaker
 phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.
 
 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
 
 Thanks,
 Brice
 
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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Laura ann Grymes
I like that it goes to speaker as you move it away and goes to earphone as near 
to your face.

I have not had any issues with it and if did would just put away from face and 
move back up to make sure it senses your face and goes to phone mode.
Laura Ann

On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 For me at least, I would prefer that this not be done automatically. IfI want 
 touse the speaker phone, I can select it. This is one of those cases where I 
 don't like the computer trying to make decisions for me.
 Original message:
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
 
 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
 
 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want 
 to see it go! :)
 
 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I 
 personally would go. :)
 
 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
 all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
 5s does with this.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
 I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
 auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.
 
 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
 would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi, everyone.
 
 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
 tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
 happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
 immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
 phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
 phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.
 
 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
 
 Thanks,
 Brice
 
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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Laura ann Grymes
It does work if VO is already off.
But if I guess you triple click and turn it off maybe it doesn't.
not sure.

Laura Ann


On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

 How can non-VO users use this feature?
 
 If you turn voiceover off and take the phone away from your ear, it
 doesn't automatically switch to speaker phone. Likewise, if the
 speaker phone is activated and you triple click VO off and move the
 phone toward your ear, the ear piece does not automatically activate.
 Please clarify.
 
 Thanks,
 Brice
 
 On 9/23/13, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.
 
 Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.
 
 I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
 to see it go! :)
 
 A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
 personally would go. :)
 
 Great topic all, and have an awesome day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have
 to
 worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
 all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
 5s does with this.
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Rick Alfaro
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
 I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
 auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.
 
 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
 would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi, everyone.
 
 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
 tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
 happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
 immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
 phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to
 speaker
 phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.
 
 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?
 
 Thanks,
 Brice
 
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RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Cara,

I know at least one or two other people asked how a non Voiceover user can
enable auto switching between earpiece and speakerphone, but I haven't seen
a reply yet. If you have a minute, could you let us know? I know a lot of
sighted iPhone users and nobody has ever mentioned this.

Thanks,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

I'm not sure where this is coming from that this is only a VO feature.

Non-VO users can have auto-switching as well.

I personally have always liked this feature and would never never never want
to see it go! :)

A setting would certainly be welcome but that would be as far as I
personally would go. :)

Great topic all, and have an awesome day!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Rick Alfaro rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Sieghard. Personally, I really like the auto switching so I don't have to
worry about finding the speaker phone button. I haven't had much trouble at
all with this feature malfunctioning.  This is on my 4s, let's see how the
5s does with this.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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2013-09-22 Thread Brice Smith
Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I
double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only
started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could
always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start
talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will
occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my
head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread alia robinson
Yes, I am having this problem too, very badly. 

Alia
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brice Smith brsmith2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, everyone.
 
 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I
 double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only
 started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could
 always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start
 talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will
 occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my

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RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Brice Smith
Hi,

I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to
ship until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to
have to do something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I
really can't put up with this much longer.

I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is
something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone
is on speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the
phone will automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I
can't believe there's still not a way to disable this.

Brice

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Brice,

 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
 I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
 auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
 do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
 anybody has that issue.

 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
 speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
 just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
 would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
 degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
 think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
 would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi, everyone.

 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
 tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
 happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
 immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
 phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to
 speaker
 phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

 Thanks,
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RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Brice,

Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this automatic
switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully you will take a
few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and express this, I have
done so once before some time back and plan to do so again and hopefully a
lot of other people will join us.

I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to get the
Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one again since
it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait 6 or 7 weeks.
Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me on
the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of October
which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of course it could
also ship the first week of October and 10 business days for my Space Grey
one means it could also ship as late as October 4, but hopefully it will be
sooner.

I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple Stores
around the world was miserable and some stores had none or maybe only 1 or 2
Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had an
800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi,

I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to ship
until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to have to do
something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I really can't put up
with this much longer.

I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is
something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone is on
speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the phone will
automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I can't believe there's
still not a way to disable this.

Brice

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Brice,

 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so 
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in 
 fact, I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my 
 camera wasn't auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better 
 with that. Which phone do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S 
 if anybody has that issue.

 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic 
 switching to speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the 
 Speakerphone button just like any sighted person if I want my call on 
 Speakerphone and this would completely get rid of this issue which has 
 been an issue to some degree for certain people for the last 4 years. 
 What does everybody else think, would you prefer to have to double tap 
 on the Speakerphone button or would you prefer to keep the automatic
switching as is?


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi, everyone.

 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I 
 double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only 
 started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could 
 always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start 
 talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will 
 occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my 
 head when I've just started a call.

 I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
 Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

 Thanks,
 Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Brice Smith
Thanks, Sieghard. I'll write to Apple. I don't know what good it will
do, but something is better than nothing. In the mean time, I wonder
if I should just start triple clicking the home button when my phone
rings so it won't automatically switch to speaker phone, but then I
won't be able to use the two finger double tap gesture to actually
answer the call if VO is turned off.

I'm in North Carolina in the United States. Yep, the online orders for
the gold phone slipped to October at 3:25 a.m. Eastern, 25 minutes
after it went on sale. Guess who ordered his phone online exactly at
3:25 a.m.?

I guess the color doesn't really matter but still, I want gold for
something different. I'm hoping October changes soon and I don't
have to wait several weeks. I'm also planning on checking my local
store now and then to see if they have any models. IMO, Apple really
messed up this launch with the gold phone. Since I purchase device
only, I could always go in store and then cancel the online order with
no repercussions if that option becomes available.

Brice

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this
 automatic
 switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully you will take a
 few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and express this, I have
 done so once before some time back and plan to do so again and hopefully a
 lot of other people will join us.

 I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to get the
 Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one again since
 it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait 6 or 7 weeks.
 Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me on
 the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of October
 which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of course it could
 also ship the first week of October and 10 business days for my Space Grey
 one means it could also ship as late as October 4, but hopefully it will be
 sooner.

 I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple Stores
 around the world was miserable and some stores had none or maybe only 1 or
 2
 Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had an
 800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi,

 I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to ship
 until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to have to do
 something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I really can't put up
 with this much longer.

 I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is
 something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone is on
 speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the phone will
 automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I can't believe
 there's
 still not a way to disable this.

 Brice

 On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Brice,

 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in
 fact, I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my
 camera wasn't auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better
 with that. Which phone do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
 I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S
 if anybody has that issue.

 I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic
 switching to speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the
 Speakerphone button just like any sighted person if I want my call on
 Speakerphone and this would completely get rid of this issue which has
 been an issue to some degree for certain people for the last 4 years.
 What does everybody else think, would you prefer to have to double tap
 on the Speakerphone button or would you prefer to keep the automatic
 switching as is?


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi, everyone.

 Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I
 double tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only
 started happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could
 always double tap, immediately lift the phone to my ear and start
 talking with the speaker phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will
 occasionally switch to speaker phone even when the phone is next to my
 head when I've just started a call.

 I use my phone for work so

RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Brice,

I usually have either my Jabra Bluetooth or Apple Earpods handy. I know it's
warmer where you are, but here it is getting to e sweater and jacket time so
quite often I have my iPhone in my belt clip and I have the earpods plugged
in and the cable under my sweater with the ends hanging around my neck under
the color. This is very unobtrusive and if the phone rings I just pick up
the right earpiece, stick it in my ear and answer the phone with the remote.
This of course avoids the problem entirely. 

If I do answer without headset I found it's sometimes best to do the
2-finger double tap and not bring it up to the ear right away. I often just
ask the caller to hold just a second, then if I bring it up to my ear it's
often better and the switching if it happens mostly happens right at the
beginning.

I might have even decided to stand in line to get a Gold iPhone, but the
problem for me is that the nearest Apple Store for me is in Vancouver which
is a 1 hour and 40 minute flight in a Dash 8 4-engine turbo prop plane or a
1,500 mile round trip by road. Oh well, a couple weeks of looking forward to
it doesn't hurt in today's instant gratification society!

Good luck,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Thanks, Sieghard. I'll write to Apple. I don't know what good it will do,
but something is better than nothing. In the mean time, I wonder if I should
just start triple clicking the home button when my phone rings so it won't
automatically switch to speaker phone, but then I won't be able to use the
two finger double tap gesture to actually answer the call if VO is turned
off.

I'm in North Carolina in the United States. Yep, the online orders for the
gold phone slipped to October at 3:25 a.m. Eastern, 25 minutes after it went
on sale. Guess who ordered his phone online exactly at
3:25 a.m.?

I guess the color doesn't really matter but still, I want gold for something
different. I'm hoping October changes soon and I don't have to wait
several weeks. I'm also planning on checking my local store now and then to
see if they have any models. IMO, Apple really messed up this launch with
the gold phone. Since I purchase device only, I could always go in store and
then cancel the online order with no repercussions if that option becomes
available.

Brice

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this 
 automatic switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully 
 you will take a few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and 
 express this, I have done so once before some time back and plan to do 
 so again and hopefully a lot of other people will join us.

 I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to 
 get the Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one 
 again since it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait
6 or 7 weeks.
 Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me 
 on the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of 
 October which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of 
 course it could also ship the first week of October and 10 business 
 days for my Space Grey one means it could also ship as late as October 
 4, but hopefully it will be sooner.

 I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple 
 Stores around the world was miserable and some stores had none or 
 maybe only 1 or
 2
 Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had 
 an
 800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi,

 I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to 
 ship until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to 
 have to do something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I 
 really can't put up with this much longer.

 I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is 
 something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone 
 is on speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the 
 phone will automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I 
 can't believe there's still not a way to disable this.

 Brice

 On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Brice,

 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so 
 seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in 
 fact, I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my 
 camera wasn't auto focusing any more

Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Hi:
I've never had this problem on a 4 or 5. I'll find out about the 5s
soon as mine is supposed to ship within 1/3 business days. I ordered
the Silver because I was told that the Gold one looked like it was
Pink. I also dropped into a Verizon store on Friday and they didn't
even get any 64gb phones let alone a Gold one. Oh well!

On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 I usually have either my Jabra Bluetooth or Apple Earpods handy. I know
 it's
 warmer where you are, but here it is getting to e sweater and jacket time
 so
 quite often I have my iPhone in my belt clip and I have the earpods plugged
 in and the cable under my sweater with the ends hanging around my neck
 under
 the color. This is very unobtrusive and if the phone rings I just pick up
 the right earpiece, stick it in my ear and answer the phone with the
 remote.
 This of course avoids the problem entirely.

 If I do answer without headset I found it's sometimes best to do the
 2-finger double tap and not bring it up to the ear right away. I often just
 ask the caller to hold just a second, then if I bring it up to my ear it's
 often better and the switching if it happens mostly happens right at the
 beginning.

 I might have even decided to stand in line to get a Gold iPhone, but the
 problem for me is that the nearest Apple Store for me is in Vancouver which
 is a 1 hour and 40 minute flight in a Dash 8 4-engine turbo prop plane or a
 1,500 mile round trip by road. Oh well, a couple weeks of looking forward
 to
 it doesn't hurt in today's instant gratification society!

 Good luck,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Thanks, Sieghard. I'll write to Apple. I don't know what good it will do,
 but something is better than nothing. In the mean time, I wonder if I
 should
 just start triple clicking the home button when my phone rings so it won't
 automatically switch to speaker phone, but then I won't be able to use the
 two finger double tap gesture to actually answer the call if VO is turned
 off.

 I'm in North Carolina in the United States. Yep, the online orders for the
 gold phone slipped to October at 3:25 a.m. Eastern, 25 minutes after it
 went
 on sale. Guess who ordered his phone online exactly at
 3:25 a.m.?

 I guess the color doesn't really matter but still, I want gold for
 something
 different. I'm hoping October changes soon and I don't have to wait
 several weeks. I'm also planning on checking my local store now and then to
 see if they have any models. IMO, Apple really messed up this launch with
 the gold phone. Since I purchase device only, I could always go in store
 and
 then cancel the online order with no repercussions if that option becomes
 available.

 Brice

 On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,

 Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this
 automatic switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully
 you will take a few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and
 express this, I have done so once before some time back and plan to do
 so again and hopefully a lot of other people will join us.

 I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to
 get the Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one
 again since it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait
 6 or 7 weeks.
 Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me
 on the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of
 October which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of
 course it could also ship the first week of October and 10 business
 days for my Space Grey one means it could also ship as late as October
 4, but hopefully it will be sooner.

 I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple
 Stores around the world was miserable and some stores had none or
 maybe only 1 or
 2
 Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had
 an
 800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

 Hi,

 I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to
 ship until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to
 have to do something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I
 really can't put up with this much longer.

 I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is
 something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone
 is on speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the
 phone will automatically switch back

RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread DJ
I would like to see the option in settings.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hello Brice,

Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10 or so
seconds of a call. However, I had this problem with iOS 6 as well, in fact,
I received a replacement 4S 64 Gb back in March because my camera wasn't
auto focusing any more and my old 4S was much better with that. Which phone
do you have, a 4, 4S, 5 or a brandnew 5C or 5S?
I would be interested  to hear from people who already have their 5S if
anybody has that issue.

I actually think Apple should completely remove this automatic switching to
speakerphone. I don't understand why I can't tap the Speakerphone button
just like any sighted person if I want my call on Speakerphone and this
would completely get rid of this issue which has been an issue to some
degree for certain people for the last 4 years. What does everybody else
think, would you prefer to have to double tap on the Speakerphone button or
would you prefer to keep the automatic switching as is?


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

Hi, everyone.

Sometimes, my phone switches to speaker phone automatically when I double
tap to answer a call and bring the phone to my ear. This only started
happening after I updated to IOS 7. Before that, I could always double tap,
immediately lift the phone to my ear and start talking with the speaker
phone reliably turned off. Now, my phone will occasionally switch to speaker
phone even when the phone is next to my head when I've just started a call.

I use my phone for work so this inconsistency is really frustrating.
Is anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Thanks,
Brice

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Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover

2013-09-22 Thread Wes Smith
Sieghartd, where are you from?  Just Curious.
On Sep 22, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Brice,
 
 I usually have either my Jabra Bluetooth or Apple Earpods handy. I know it's
 warmer where you are, but here it is getting to e sweater and jacket time so
 quite often I have my iPhone in my belt clip and I have the earpods plugged
 in and the cable under my sweater with the ends hanging around my neck under
 the color. This is very unobtrusive and if the phone rings I just pick up
 the right earpiece, stick it in my ear and answer the phone with the remote.
 This of course avoids the problem entirely. 
 
 If I do answer without headset I found it's sometimes best to do the
 2-finger double tap and not bring it up to the ear right away. I often just
 ask the caller to hold just a second, then if I bring it up to my ear it's
 often better and the switching if it happens mostly happens right at the
 beginning.
 
 I might have even decided to stand in line to get a Gold iPhone, but the
 problem for me is that the nearest Apple Store for me is in Vancouver which
 is a 1 hour and 40 minute flight in a Dash 8 4-engine turbo prop plane or a
 1,500 mile round trip by road. Oh well, a couple weeks of looking forward to
 it doesn't hurt in today's instant gratification society!
 
 Good luck,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Thanks, Sieghard. I'll write to Apple. I don't know what good it will do,
 but something is better than nothing. In the mean time, I wonder if I should
 just start triple clicking the home button when my phone rings so it won't
 automatically switch to speaker phone, but then I won't be able to use the
 two finger double tap gesture to actually answer the call if VO is turned
 off.
 
 I'm in North Carolina in the United States. Yep, the online orders for the
 gold phone slipped to October at 3:25 a.m. Eastern, 25 minutes after it went
 on sale. Guess who ordered his phone online exactly at
 3:25 a.m.?
 
 I guess the color doesn't really matter but still, I want gold for something
 different. I'm hoping October changes soon and I don't have to wait
 several weeks. I'm also planning on checking my local store now and then to
 see if they have any models. IMO, Apple really messed up this launch with
 the gold phone. Since I purchase device only, I could always go in store and
 then cancel the online order with no repercussions if that option becomes
 available.
 
 Brice
 
 On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Brice,
 
 Yes, I agree, at least Apple could maybe allow people to turn this 
 automatic switching on and off in Accessibility Settings. Hopefully 
 you will take a few minutes to write to accessibil...@apple.com and 
 express this, I have done so once before some time back and plan to do 
 so again and hopefully a lot of other people will join us.
 
 I also ordered an unlocked 5S on Friday, but while I had planned to 
 get the Gold one as well I decided to go with the Black/Space Grey one 
 again since it only showed a 7-10 day lead time and I didn't want to wait
 6 or 7 weeks.
 Are you in Canada, the States or elsewhere in the world? Apple told me 
 on the phone that October means it might not ship until the end of 
 October which means I would get it at the beginning of November. Of 
 course it could also ship the first week of October and 10 business 
 days for my Space Grey one means it could also ship as late as October 
 4, but hopefully it will be sooner.
 
 I read on the Today in iOS website that 5S availability at Apple 
 Stores around the world was miserable and some stores had none or 
 maybe only 1 or
 2
 Gold 64 Gig phones. Apparently the Apple Store in Sidney Australia had 
 an
 800 meter line up, ann entire half mile.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Brice Smith
 Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Speaker Phone with Voiceover
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a 4S, but I just ordered an unlocked gold 5s. It's not going to 
 ship until October, so if this continues or gets worse I'm going to 
 have to do something about it. I'm fairly happy with IOS 7 but I 
 really can't put up with this much longer.
 
 I would rather tap on the speaker phone button when I need it. This is 
 something I really can't stand about the design. Even if you're phone 
 is on speaker phone and you move your hand near the mouth piece, the 
 phone will automatically switch back which is also frustrating. I 
 can't believe there's still not a way to disable this.
 
 Brice
 
 On 9/22/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Brice,
 
 Yes, on my 4S this happens a lot especially during the first 10