Re: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

[David Grossoehme]

Do you move around the house vary much?  If not, when there isn't anyone 
moving around it will stay cooler.  However, it is only a degree or 2.  
That seems unusual to me.  Do you have it set up for speech control.  If 
so, when you find out it is that low, ask what it is set to?  It's 
possible it is going back to the default without any kind of program set 
for it.  I generally tell people to set it for 72 to 78 in the cold 
period of the year, and back off a couple of degrees at night.  78 to 81 
degrees in the warmer time of the year.  I hope this gives you an idea 
of where to set it.


Dave


On 3/9/2024 8:02 PM, Jenny Bomareto wrote:
Is it better to keep it on home mode when I’m at home? To conserve 
energy as I do not want to do the eco-temperatures because I don’t 
know what is the proper range for that and of course I know the reason 
it goes to a way mode for when I leave my house is to conserve energy.


Cooling is said to 78° with the current temperature of 74°. Now 
earlier today even though it’s been set on 78 and I have not changed 
the temperature earlier we’re staying with the temperature of 70° 
sometimes 71 sometimes 72 sometimes 73° again I have not changed, the 
temperature since my neighbor took off all those schedules I have no 
clue how that happened but she turned auto schedule off.


Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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RE: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

[Mario Eiland]

HI Jenny,

I don’t know if you use an iPhone or some other type of phone. I use an iPhone 
and I installed the Nest app on there. In the event that you do have access to 
the Nest app on an iPhone. This is how you would turn off the learning mode.

Open the Nest app > Find the Settings button and double tap to get into 
Settings > scroll all the way to the bottom and look for whatever you named the 
location of where the thermostat is located (in my case it’s Dining Room) > 
double tap here to get into the specific settings for your location > look for 
Auto Schedule and turn that off.

 

If you use Alexa, you can also integrate your thermostat with it. Go to your 
Alexa app on your smart phone and download the Nest Skill.

 

Hope that helps some!

 

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Bomareto
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

 

If you think the learning mode is on, how do I turn that off? Or would it be 
better for a visual person to do that with the wheel thing on the thermostat 
that’s connected to the wall?  Also, will I still conserve energy if learning 
mode is turned off? When I leave to go somewhere will it go into a way mode 
since you know how like when you leave your house that’s why it normally does 
that it’s so it’s not using as much energy once you leave your house.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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On Mar 10, 2024, at 12:02 AM, Mario Eiland mailto:eila...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Jenny,

It sounds like you might have your thermostat set on learning mode?

I turned learning mode off and I just go with the conventional way of using a 
schedule. I keep mine always in heat or cool mode depending in which season we 
are and om home mode all the time. There are four of us living in the house and 
seldom is the house empty. So I don’t find it necessary to have it change to 
away.

I scheduled for the night temperature to drop as low as 65 degrees from 10:00 
PM to 5:00 AM. 

>From 5:00 AM to 10:00 PM I have it set to get up to 68 degrees.

Of course, if I need it to change it then I use my Alexa to tell it to set the 
heat or cool to whatever temperature I want. Also, I can use the Nest app to do 
that as well, but I find it’s more convenient to use the Alexa devices.

I don’t know if that helps any, but there you go.  

 

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Jenny Bomareto
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Subject: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

 

Is it better to keep it on home mode when I’m at home? To conserve energy as I 
do not want to do the eco-temperatures because I don’t know what is the proper 
range for that and of course I know the reason it goes to a way mode for when I 
leave my house is to conserve energy.

 

Cooling is said to 78° with the current temperature of 74°. Now earlier today 
even though it’s been set on 78 and I have not changed the temperature earlier 
we’re staying with the temperature of 70° sometimes 71 sometimes 72 sometimes 
73° again I have not changed, the temperature since my neighbor took off all 
those schedules I have no clue how that happened but she turned auto schedule 
off. 

 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Re: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

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If you think the learning mode is on, how do I turn that off? Or would it be better for a visual person to do that with the wheel thing on the thermostat that’s connected to the wall?  Also, will I still conserve energy if learning mode is turned off? When I leave to go somewhere will it go into a way mode since you know how like when you leave your house that’s why it normally does that it’s so it’s not using as much energy once you leave your house.Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone 15On Mar 10, 2024, at 12:02 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:Hi Jenny,It sounds like you might have your thermostat set on learning mode?I turned learning mode off and I just go with the conventional way of using a schedule. I keep mine always in heat or cool mode depending in which season we are and om home mode all the time. There are four of us living in the house and seldom is the house empty. So I don’t find it necessary to have it change to away.I scheduled for the night temperature to drop as low as 65 degrees from 10:00 PM to 5:00 AM. From 5:00 AM to 10:00 PM I have it set to get up to 68 degrees.Of course, if I need it to change it then I use my Alexa to tell it to set the heat or cool to whatever temperature I want. Also, I can use the Nest app to do that as well, but I find it’s more convenient to use the Alexa devices.I don’t know if that helps any, but there you go.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny BomaretoSent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 5:02 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats. Is it better to keep it on home mode when I’m at home? To conserve energy as I do not want to do the eco-temperatures because I don’t know what is the proper range for that and of course I know the reason it goes to a way mode for when I leave my house is to conserve energy. Cooling is said to 78° with the current temperature of 74°. Now earlier today even though it’s been set on 78 and I have not changed the temperature earlier we’re staying with the temperature of 70° sometimes 71 sometimes 72 sometimes 73° again I have not changed, the temperature since my neighbor took off all those schedules I have no clue how that happened but she turned auto schedule off.  Thanks for reading regarding this matter.Jenny BomaretoSent from my iPhone 15-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/EE4399E2-4679-4B89-92D4-DA2B1FABC572%40gmail.com.



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RE: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

[Mario Eiland]

Hi Jenny,

It sounds like you might have your thermostat set on learning mode?

I turned learning mode off and I just go with the conventional way of using a 
schedule. I keep mine always in heat or cool mode depending in which season we 
are and om home mode all the time. There are four of us living in the house and 
seldom is the house empty. So I don’t find it necessary to have it change to 
away.

I scheduled for the night temperature to drop as low as 65 degrees from 10:00 
PM to 5:00 AM. 

>From 5:00 AM to 10:00 PM I have it set to get up to 68 degrees.

Of course, if I need it to change it then I use my Alexa to tell it to set the 
heat or cool to whatever temperature I want. Also, I can use the Nest app to do 
that as well, but I find it’s more convenient to use the Alexa devices.

I don’t know if that helps any, but there you go.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

 

Is it better to keep it on home mode when I’m at home? To conserve energy as I 
do not want to do the eco-temperatures because I don’t know what is the proper 
range for that and of course I know the reason it goes to a way mode for when I 
leave my house is to conserve energy.

 

Cooling is said to 78° with the current temperature of 74°. Now earlier today 
even though it’s been set on 78 and I have not changed the temperature earlier 
we’re staying with the temperature of 70° sometimes 71 sometimes 72 sometimes 
73° again I have not changed, the temperature since my neighbor took off all 
those schedules I have no clue how that happened but she turned auto schedule 
off. 

 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Those of you that have Nest Thermostats.

[Jenny Bomareto]

Is it better to keep it on home mode when I’m at home? To conserve energy as I 
do not want to do the eco-temperatures because I don’t know what is the proper 
range for that and of course I know the reason it goes to a way mode for when I 
leave my house is to conserve energy.

Cooling is said to 78° with the current temperature of 74°. Now earlier today 
even though it’s been set on 78 and I have not changed the temperature earlier 
we’re staying with the temperature of 70° sometimes 71 sometimes 72 sometimes 
73° again I have not changed, the temperature since my neighbor took off all 
those schedules I have no clue how that happened but she turned auto schedule 
off. 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

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Re: Reading digital displays on ovens and thermostats

[Arnold Schmidt]

I have forgotten the technical details of it now, but a service with a human 
reading the information may be the best bet, for now. There is something about 
the light emited by digital displays that a human can read with little or no 
problem, but technology can not read very well, if at all. I hope it will get 
better in the future. The best solution is to have someody with whom you can 
face time to read it, services like Be My Eyes and Aira being a good solution, 
too. 

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On Apr 12, 2023, at 5:59 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. Have you tried the Be my eyes service? It's completely free and you can 
speak to a person in real time, point your phones camera on the item you wish 
read. I use be my eyes all the time to set my instapot.

Chris Judge


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hi,
Can any of the available text reading apps successfully read digital 
temperatures on oven and thermostat devices? If so, I have yet to find one that 
I can operate. It may be operator error, though. Appreciate any insights.
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RE: Reading digital displays on ovens and thermostats

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. Have you tried the Be my eyes service? It's completely free and you can 
speak to a person in real time, point your phones camera on the item you wish 
read. I use be my eyes all the time to set my instapot.

Chris Judge


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hi,
Can any of the available text reading apps successfully read digital 
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RE: Reading digital displays on ovens and thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I should mention one exception where I find I get pretty good results 
with an app. I have a thermostat controlling the in-floor heating in the 
kitchen and here interestingly enough I get the best results using Tap Tap See, 
if I aim the camera well I usually get something like "White Digital Thermostat 
showing 26 degrees or whatever the temperature is set as. Interestingly enough 
other apps like Seeing AI don't give me anything.

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hi,
Can any of the available text reading apps successfully read digital 
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I can operate. It may be operator error, though. Appreciate any insights.
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Reading digital displays on ovens and thermostats

[Keith Kramlinger]

hi,
Can any of the available text reading apps successfully read digital 
temperatures on oven and thermostat devices? If so, I have yet to find one that 
I can operate. It may be operator error, though. Appreciate any insights.
Best, Keith

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RE: Accessible thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think you should look at the Honeywell T9 or T10 or maybe they have an even 
newer one, these work with what used to be called the Honeywell Home app and 
this is now called Resideo which is I believe a company they bought.
The app is the same, it was just a name change a few weeks ago, but it's quite 
accessible and whenever I see advertising for Honeywell thermostats it is 
always about them and this app and not the Total Comfort Control which I think 
is older. But you can maybe just Google "Honeywell Total Comfort Control vs 
Resideo" and see what you find.

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accessibility. Do I just need to make sure I get a smart wifi thermostat that 
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Re: Accessible thermostats

[joseph hudson]

Yes that's all you need to do. As far as the Honeywell thermostats. And I know 
that the nest ones are accessible through using a Google hub. But I haven't 
ever looked at their app.

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> their accessibility. Do I just need to make sure I get a smart wifi 
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Accessible thermostats

[Christopher Chaltain]

I have a low voltage guy coming out tomorrow, and while they're here, I'd like 
to ask them about upgrading my thermostat to something accessible. I currently 
have a Honeywell thermostat, and I remember hearing good news about their 
accessibility. Do I just need to make sure I get a smart wifi thermostat that 
supports Honeywell's Total Comfort Control app? Anything else I need to be 
aware of? What about any other options, like Nest? Thanks for the info and tips.

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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Mike Arrigo]

I also use a thermostat that uses the total connect comfort app, works great. 
It's my first thermostat that can be controlled through the internet and I 
would never go back to a thermostat without this feature. The current model 
nest thermostat is controlled in the google home app and this app is also 
accessible. None of the thermostats themselves are accessible so you will need 
sighted help to connect the wires and configure the thermostat for the type of 
system you have.

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
> which is completely accessible.
> The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
> but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
> So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this 
>> list countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that 
>> both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. 
>> However, each company makes several models which makes it hard to determine 
>> which model is the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is 
>> changing rapidly, and because of this, some models are no longer available 
>> while newer models are being pushed into the markets.
>> My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your 
>> opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or 
>> nest, and which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be 
>> done by any handyman?
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>> 
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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks for your clarification Sieghard,

My system is both a heating furnace and an air conditioner together. The 
system runs on electricity. I suppose this should make it easier. I do 
not know how many wiires extended from the furnace to the thermostat I 
have, but I believe it should be four, two for the heat and two for the 
Air conditioner. I do not like the idea of having my thermostat 
connected to an outlet. In any case, I do not have any outlets close to 
the thermostat area of my wall. I am leaning more and more to the nest 
third generation because it does not need the C wire. I hope the nest 
application is accessible enough on iOS.


Cheers,


On 11/4/21 2:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


And of course you also have to consider whether you have only a 
furnace and heat or if you also have air conditioning. When I 
renovated my new retail store last year I had an entirely new heating 
system installed which consists of 2 roof top units which are heat 
pumps with a natural gas furnace as backup when it's too cold for the 
heat pump to efficiently draw heat from the air. They are from 
American Standard and the company was told by American Standard that 
they have to use their smart thermostat because the other ones 
wouldn't work correctly with these units. Fortunately their app is 
also accessible except for the scheduling part and it si also 
compatible with Alexa and Google Assistant.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *bentleyj1...@gmail.com

*Sent:* November 4, 2021 10:46 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

The Sensi also does not need the C wire.

James B

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Cris Ali

*Sent:* Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:35 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 


*Subject:* Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that 
I do not even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the 
Common wire, usually referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart 
thermostat I found which does not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also 
known as nest learning thermostat. However, I do not know how 
accessible the nest app is. Do you have any experience with this app? 
How accessible is it?


Cheers,

On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

HI,

Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I
think the installer had to get.

Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u

Richard

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 <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *On
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accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with
an app on the phone.

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:



My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

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accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect
Comfort (tcc) app which is completely accessible.

The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal
with on my own, but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.

HTH,

Richard

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mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>>
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Hi folks,
    I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been
discussed on this list countless number of

Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Joseph Hudson]

No mine was doing that too. Just another bug report that we need to push to the 
Honeywell home people. I may see about finding their phone number again. And 
giving them a call. However, it may take me an entire day. As there was one day 
where I had to sit on hold for almost 5 hours

> On Nov 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I wanted to mention that I thought they'd made it possible to use older 
> models with the newer Honeywell Home app too that app is quite accessible by 
> and large I'd say and yes you can mark the unit for the most necessary icons 
> you'd need to interact with  in an emergency. I have the Lyric t6Pro here.
> 
> Some of their newer thermostats are also home kit compatible.
> 
> Just last night for some reason no matter what I did in the Honeywell app I'd 
> change temperature it'd recognize the change and then put it back to what 
> it'd been and this is with no scheduling in use.  Whether the temperature 
> really wasn't changing or VoiceOver was just having some sort of fit I don't 
> yet know as I didn't have any sighted folk handy at the time. However, I 
> could just pop into the Home app and change my temperature and it took hold 
> and I was glad to have an alternative.
> 
> Take good care.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/3/2021 6:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I'm sure my model is not available. It was put in by the guy who installed 
>> our AC unit.
>> I'm not home so I cannot give you the model number, but yes the app controls 
>> all the features.
>> Very nice.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> website:  www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Richard,
>>> Which Honey well do tyou have? There are quite few of them. Does the app 
>>> control all the features of the thermostat?
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) 
>>>> app which is completely accessible.
>>>> The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my 
>>>> own, but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
>>>> So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it." -- Jane Wagner 
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> website:  www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>> I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on 
>>>>> this list countless number of times. From the past discussions I 
>>>>> understood that both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible 
>>>>> thermostats. However, each company makes several models which makes it 
>>>>> hard to determine which model is the most accessible. Needless to say 
>>>>> that technology is changing rapidly, and because of this, some models are 
>>>>> no longer available while newer models are being pushed into the markets.
>>>>> My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your 
>>>>> opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell 
>>>>> or nest, and which model? Does the installation need a technician or it 
>>>>> can be done by any handyman?
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I wanted to mention that I thought they'd made it possible to use older 
models with the newer Honeywell Home app too that app is quite 
accessible by and large I'd say and yes you can mark the unit for the 
most necessary icons you'd need to interact with  in an emergency. I 
have the Lyric t6Pro here.


Some of their newer thermostats are also home kit compatible.

Just last night for some reason no matter what I did in the Honeywell 
app I'd change temperature it'd recognize the change and then put it 
back to what it'd been and this is with no scheduling in use.  Whether 
the temperature really wasn't changing or VoiceOver was just having some 
sort of fit I don't yet know as I didn't have any sighted folk handy at 
the time. However, I could just pop into the Home app and change my 
temperature and it took hold and I was glad to have an alternative.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/3/2021 6:57 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I'm sure my model is not available. It was put in by the guy who 
installed our AC unit.
I'm not home so I cannot give you the model number, but yes the app 
controls all the features.

Very nice.



Richard
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with it." -- Jane Wagner





website: www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Thanks Richard,
Which Honey well do tyou have? There are quite few of them. Does the 
app control all the features of the thermostat?

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort 
(tcc) app which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on 
my own, but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,



Richard
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with it." -- Jane Wagner





website: www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)


On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed 
on this list countless number of times. From the past discussions I 
understood that both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably 
accessible thermostats. However, each company makes several models 
which makes it hard to determine which model is the most 
accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, 
and because of this, some models are no longer available while 
newer models are being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get 
your opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, 
honeywell or nest, and which model? Does the installation need a 
technician or it can be done by any handyman?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi Richard, I have the Honeywell app, and yes it is accessible. You just might 
need a little bit of assistance pairing the thermostat to the app.

> On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:22 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
> which is completely accessible.
> The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
> but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
> So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
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> 
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>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this 
>> list countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that 
>> both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. 
>> However, each company makes several models which makes it hard to determine 
>> which model is the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is 
>> changing rapidly, and because of this, some models are no longer available 
>> while newer models are being pushed into the markets.
>> My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your 
>> opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or 
>> nest, and which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be 
>> done by any handyman?
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>> 
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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And of course you also have to consider whether you have only a furnace and 
heat or if you also have air conditioning. When I renovated my new retail store 
last year I had an entirely new heating system installed which consists of 2 
roof top units which are heat pumps with a natural gas furnace as backup when 
it's too cold for the heat pump to efficiently draw heat from the air. They are 
from American Standard and the company was told by American Standard that they 
have to use their smart thermostat because the other ones wouldn't work 
correctly with these units. Fortunately their app is also accessible except for 
the scheduling part and it si also compatible with Alexa and Google Assistant.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: November 4, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

The Sensi also does not need the C wire.

James B

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?


Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that I do not 
even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the Common wire, usually 
referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart thermostat I found which does 
not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also known as nest learning thermostat. 
However, I do not know how accessible the nest app is. Do you have any 
experience with this app? How accessible is it?

Cheers,


On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
HI,
Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.
Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead 
mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am pretty sure the 4th wire is not required on other thermostats, but it is 
what delivers power to the thermostat. I know our Honeywell T5 can also be 
plugged into a nearby wall outlet with an adapter to receive power instead. In 
our case the thermostat is downstairs on a wall where the furnace is basically 
just on the other side of the wall so it was quite easy to pull a new wire 
through which makes of course for a cleaner installation. I would leave this 
for the installer to decide.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: November 4, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

The Sensi also does not need the C wire.

James B

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?


Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that I do not 
even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the Common wire, usually 
referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart thermostat I found which does 
not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also known as nest learning thermostat. 
However, I do not know how accessible the nest app is. Do you have any 
experience with this app? How accessible is it?

Cheers,


On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
HI,
Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.
Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead 
mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Keep in mind that any Honeywell ads I ever see promote the T9 or T10 
thermostats which used to be in the so-called "Honeywell Lyrics" line-up and 
the app used to be called "Lyric", but it is now called "Honeywell Home". I 
can't say for sure, but it seems to me that the Total Comfort platform is older 
and not where Honeywell's focus is.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: November 4, 2021 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Same here, we have Honeywell thermostat with the TCC app and it works great. 
It’s all about the app, I never touch the thermostat on the wall. Works great 
and you can use it independently.
Oh yes, also we have Alexa connected so we can tell Alexa to set the 
temperature to a particular number and she does it for you. Great stuff
Dan

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

HI,
Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.
Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.
Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead 
mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[bentleyj1952]

The Sensi also does not need the C wire.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Richard Turner 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that I do not 
even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the Common wire, usually 
referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart thermostat I found which does 
not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also known as nest learning thermostat. 
However, I do not know how accessible the nest app is. Do you have any 
experience with this app? How accessible is it?

Cheers,

 

On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

HI,

Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.

Honeywell Thermostat

 

9320 WF5003-u

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>   
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.

Sent from my iPhone






On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead mailto:knea...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

 

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible. 

The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Dan Yates]

Same here, we have Honeywell thermostat with the TCC app and it works great. 
It’s all about the app, I never touch the thermostat on the wall. Works great 
and you can use it independently.
Oh yes, also we have Alexa connected so we can tell Alexa to set the 
temperature to a particular number and she does it for you. Great stuff
Dan


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> On Nov 3, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> HI,
> Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
> installer had to get.
> Honeywell Thermostat
>  
> 9320 WF5003-u
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?
>  
> Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
> the phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:
> 
> 
> My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?
>  
> We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
> which is completely accessible.
> The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
> but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
> So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
> HTH,
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this 
> list countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that 
> both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. 
> However, each company makes several models which makes it hard to determine 
> which model is the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is 
> changing rapidly, and because of this, some models are no longer available 
> while newer models are being pushed into the markets.
> My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your 
> opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or 
> nest, and which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be 
> done by any handyman?
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
> 
> 
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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Richard. That really helps.

One of the things that makes it  difficult to decide is the fact that I 
do not even if the wiring of my heating/cooling system has the Common 
wire, usually referred  to as the C wire. So far the only smart 
thermostat I found which does not need the C wire is Nest Gen3, also 
known as nest learning thermostat. However, I do not know how accessible 
the nest app is. Do you have any experience with this app? How 
accessible is it?


Cheers,


On/3/21 11:56 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


HI,

Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I 
think the installer had to get.


Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
with it.” – Jane Wagner


My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Cris Ali

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an 
app on the phone.


Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:



My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more
accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort
(tcc) app which is completely accessible.

The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with
on my own, but one could mark it to adjust up or down.

So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.

HTH,

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
with it." -- Jane Wagner

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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been
discussed on this list countless number of times. From the
past discussions I understood that both Honeywell and google
nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine
which model is the most accessible. Needless to say that
technology is changing rapidly, and because of this, some
models are no longer available while newer models are being
pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can
get your opinions, based on your experience, which is more
accessible, honeywell or nest, and which model? Does the
installation need a technician or it can be done by any handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Richard Turner]

If you want to be able to control your thermostat remotely, the VIP won't work 
as it is a fully accessible thermostat; but is not connected to WiFi.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com

(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:31 AM, Lehmann, Timothy A  
wrote:



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3000 can control most Gas, Oil and Electric 24 Vac Heating and Air Conditioning

Systems including the newest multi-stage (up to 3 stages of heat and 2 stages 
of cooling) furnaces, air conditioners and heat pump systems.  The VIP 3000

can also control Heat Pump / Dual Fuel (Hybrid) systems with 1 or 2 stage 
Compressors and Auxiliary Heat.  The VIP 3000 has enhanced speech functions 
including

a talking Fan Button (fan on - fan auto), the System Button 
(heat-off-cool-auxiliary) and optional auto-changeover.



the VIP Talking Thermostats were introduced in 2003.  They were the first 
accessible digital thermostats that were specifically designed

to offer audio playback of indoor temperature, temperature settings and 
programming instructions so blind and visually impaired users could precisely 
and

easily manage their indoor comfort.

Today, thermostats are difficult to read an adjust because they have LCD 
displays and flat surface keypads that do not provide tactile feedback.

The VIP 3000 provides the necessary feedback in the form of a human voice.  
Everything that is shown on the LCD display is also spoken.  With each press of

the over sized up or down arrow shaped buttons, the talking thermostat ?speaks? 
the temperature setting to the user, i.e., 68, 69, 70, etc.  Pressing the

?REPORT? button, the user hears the current room temperature, temperature 
setting and mode.  Other thermostat settings are also easy to perform because

of the built-in voice instructions.

In addition to the voice instructions mentioned above, an audio CD (compact 
disk) with complete instructions to operate and program the VIP 3000 is included

with each thermostat.  These instructions are in MP3 and Wave file format and 
can be listened to using a CD player or computer.  A text file is also included

that can be listened to using your favorite text to speech software.

The VIP 3000 is a single zone battery powered thermostat that can be setup for 
either programmable (setback) or non-programmable (manual) operation depending

on the application.  In the programmable mode, the homeowner can preset the 
house temperature.  The unit can automatically raise or lower temperature in

the house at pre-determined times of day such as when the occupants go to bed 
at night, rise in the morning, leave the house for the day or return home

in the afternoon.  In the non-programmable mode, all automatic setback 
functions are turned off and the VIP functions as a manual ?talking thermostat?.

The VIP uses four AA batteries with a typical battery life of 18 months.  When 
batteries get weak, a low battery announcement will be heard when the ?REPORT?

button is pressed.  The low battery announcement begins approximately 2 weeks 
before the batteries completely fail.  This gives the user ample time to

change the batteries.

The VIP has built in freeze protection.  In the unlikely event the thermostat 
is inadvertently turned off, becomes inoperative or the batteries fail, the

residence will be maintained at 40 degrees until the problem has been corrected.

Please Note: The VIP Talking Thermostats are not designed to work with high 
voltage electric baseboard systems or high voltage electric wall heaters.

Don't over pay for this fantastic Talking Thermostat!

Save $$

RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Lehmann, Timothy A]

Here is information on the VIP 3000. I have had one for about six years and 
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VIP-3000 Talking Thermostat Special $199.99 & Free U.S. Shipping!

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About the V I P 3000 Talking Thermostat



This  accessible VIP 3000 is the newest member of the VIP family and the most 
popular model.  The VIP 3000 is a universal heating - cooling talking thermostat

designed specifically for persons who are blind or have low vision.  The VIP 
3000 can control most Gas, Oil and Electric 24 Vac Heating and Air Conditioning

Systems including the newest multi-stage (up to 3 stages of heat and 2 stages 
of cooling) furnaces, air conditioners and heat pump systems.  The VIP 3000

can also control Heat Pump / Dual Fuel (Hybrid) systems with 1 or 2 stage 
Compressors and Auxiliary Heat.  The VIP 3000 has enhanced speech functions 
including

a talking Fan Button (fan on - fan auto), the System Button 
(heat-off-cool-auxiliary) and optional auto-changeover.



the VIP Talking Thermostats were introduced in 2003.  They were the first 
accessible digital thermostats that were specifically designed

to offer audio playback of indoor temperature, temperature settings and 
programming instructions so blind and visually impaired users could precisely 
and

easily manage their indoor comfort.

Today, thermostats are difficult to read an adjust because they have LCD 
displays and flat surface keypads that do not provide tactile feedback.

The VIP 3000 provides the necessary feedback in the form of a human voice.  
Everything that is shown on the LCD display is also spoken.  With each press of

the over sized up or down arrow shaped buttons, the talking thermostat ?speaks? 
the temperature setting to the user, i.e., 68, 69, 70, etc.  Pressing the

?REPORT? button, the user hears the current room temperature, temperature 
setting and mode.  Other thermostat settings are also easy to perform because

of the built-in voice instructions.

In addition to the voice instructions mentioned above, an audio CD (compact 
disk) with complete instructions to operate and program the VIP 3000 is included

with each thermostat.  These instructions are in MP3 and Wave file format and 
can be listened to using a CD player or computer.  A text file is also included

that can be listened to using your favorite text to speech software.

The VIP 3000 is a single zone battery powered thermostat that can be setup for 
either programmable (setback) or non-programmable (manual) operation depending

on the application.  In the programmable mode, the homeowner can preset the 
house temperature.  The unit can automatically raise or lower temperature in

the house at pre-determined times of day such as when the occupants go to bed 
at night, rise in the morning, leave the house for the day or return home

in the afternoon.  In the non-programmable mode, all automatic setback 
functions are turned off and the VIP functions as a manual ?talking thermostat?.

The VIP uses four AA batteries with a typical battery life of 18 months.  When 
batteries get weak, a low battery announcement will be heard when the ?REPORT?

button is pressed.  The low battery announcement begins approximately 2 weeks 
before the batteries completely fail.  This gives the user ample time to

change the batteries.

The VIP has built in freeze protection.  In the unlikely event the thermostat 
is inadvertently turned off, becomes inoperative or the batteries fail, the

residence will be maintained at 40 degrees until the problem has been corrected.

Please Note: The VIP Talking Thermostats are not designed to work with high 
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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Richard Turner]

HI,
Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
installer had to get.
Honeywell Thermostat

9320 WF5003-u





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead 
mailto:knea...@outlook.com>> wrote:

My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Cris Ali]

Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
the phone.

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On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:


My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

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Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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RE: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

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My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.

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Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,


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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Richard Turner]

I'm sure my model is not available. It was put in by the guy who installed our 
AC unit.
I'm not home so I cannot give you the model number, but yes the app controls 
all the features.
Very nice.



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On Nov 3, 2021, at 2:01 PM, Cris Ali  wrote:

 Thanks Richard,
Which Honey well do tyou have? There are quite few of them. Does the app 
control all the features of the thermostat?
Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,



Richard
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
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which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Richard,
Which Honey well do tyou have? There are quite few of them. Does the app 
control all the features of the thermostat?
Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,



Richard
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On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Richard Turner]

We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
which is completely accessible.
The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
HTH,



Richard
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(Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this list 
countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that both 
Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. However, each 
company makes several models which makes it hard to determine which model is 
the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is changing rapidly, and 
because of this, some models are no longer available while newer models are 
being pushed into the markets.
My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your opinions, 
based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or nest, and 
which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be done by any 
handyman?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.


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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

['Andrew Walker' via VIPhone]

I bought my Tado from Amazon in the UK. 

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 4:57:12 AM UTC+1 arlene...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Where can you buy the tado? it sounds good. Thank you.
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* 'Andrew Walker' via VIPhone 
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Thermostats for the Blind
>
> I have had the Tado thermostat for three or four years now. The app works 
> with Voiceover to set schedules, alter the temperature etc. The Tado can 
> track your movements and turn on or off automatically should nobody be at 
> home. It also works with the Amazon Echo well and may well work with 
> Google, but I have not tried this.
>
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
>> accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
>> open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
>> use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
>> our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from 
>> anywhere.  All help is greatly appreciated.
>>  
>>  
>> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
>> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>>  
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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

[Arlene]

Where can you buy the tado? it sounds good. Thank you.
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Andrew Walker' via VIPhone 
  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:58 AM
  Subject: Re: Thermostats for the Blind


  I have had the Tado thermostat for three or four years now. The app works 
with Voiceover to set schedules, alter the temperature etc. The Tado can track 
your movements and turn on or off automatically should nobody be at home. It 
also works with the Amazon Echo well and may well work with Google, but I have 
not tried this.


  On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

Hi All,

I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm open 
to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't use this 
since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for our 2nd 
house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from anywhere.  All help 
is greatly appreciated.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

['Andrew Walker' via VIPhone]

Hello Mike. I have the Tado thermostat which works well with Voiceover. I 
can set schedules, alter temperatures in the app. It can also be used with 
the Amazon Echo and may be used with Google but I have not tried this. It 
can track your movements and turn on or off if nobody is at home. I have 
had this for three or four years.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
> accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
> open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
> use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
> our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from 
> anywhere.  All help is greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

['Andrew Walker' via VIPhone]

I have had the Tado thermostat for three or four years now. The app works 
with Voiceover to set schedules, alter the temperature etc. The Tado can 
track your movements and turn on or off automatically should nobody be at 
home. It also works with the Amazon Echo well and may well work with 
Google, but I have not tried this.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:18:45 PM UTC+1 Mike B wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
> accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
> open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
> use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
> our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from 
> anywhere.  All help is greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
> Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
> Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
>  
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Re: Thermostats for the Blind

[Mike B]

Hi Pam,

Thank you very much for your input.  I finally got through to a sales person 
at ADT that was willing to help instead of selling us an upgrade to our
service.

It turns out that we have an extended warranty and if they can't fix the 
current piece of crap they installed before they'll replace it for free, and 
hopefully
with something better.

I want to stay with something that'll work using the ADT Pulse app, so I'm 
going to give them another attempt at the thermostat.  The 1 before was a 
Nest
thermostat and they don't sell the Nest thermostats any more, so we'll see 
what they show up with.

I'm going to keep your suggestion, so I'll have it if ADT installs another 
piece of crap.  Thanks again for your input.


Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"

- Original Message - 
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2021 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: Thermostats for the Blind


Hi Mike,



We got the Eco-Bee thermostat a few weeks ago and do like it so far.  It can 
be operated via the iPhone or through their website.  We have had a few 
issues with our AC, and like the fact that you can access logs of any 
problems it has detected.



It was a little quirky getting it set up with WiFi at first.  We ended up 
having to enter the WiFi password on the touchpad on the thermostat, and 
used Aira to assist with that.  There may have been another way to do that , 
though.



Good luck,

Pam







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 4:19 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Thermostats for the Blind



Hi All,



I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
our 2nd house and this Is why I need to be able to control it from anywhere. 
All help is greatly appreciated.





Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"


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RE: Thermostats for the Blind

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Mike,

We got the Eco-Bee thermostat a few weeks ago and do like it so far.  It can be 
operated via the iPhone or through their website.  We have had a few issues 
with our AC, and like the fact that you can access logs of any problems it has 
detected.

It was a little quirky getting it set up with WiFi at first.  We ended up 
having to enter the WiFi password on the touchpad on the thermostat, and used 
Aira to assist with that.  There may have been another way to do that , though.

Good luck,
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 4:19 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Thermostats for the Blind

Hi All,

I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm open 
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since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for our 2nd 
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Thermostats for the Blind

[Mike B]

Hi All,

I'm in need of a thermostat that can be operated through an app and, is 
accessible.  I forget the Honeywell model people have recommended, but I'm 
open to other suggestions.  I have the VIP talking thermostat, but I can't 
use this since it can't be operated through an app.  This thermostat is for 
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All help is greatly appreciated.


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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think the fact a thermostat has a touch screen necessarily means it has 
WiFi connectivity.
If your husband is sighted I would get him to check through the menus to see if 
a model number is listed somewhere or he may have to pop it off the wall and 
see if there is a label in the back, such devices normally have to have 
information listed somewhere regarding FCC complyance, model and serial number 
etc.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi all, does anyone know how to figure out the model of Honeywell. We have just 
moved into this house and inherited a touchscreen Honeywell thermostat, but we 
have no idea what the model is. We also can't figure out if it connects to 
Wi-Fi or not. Surely it does, if it's all touchscreen. What are your thoughts?

Thank you,
Traci



On May 1, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You should look a the Lyric series of Honeywell thermostats like the T6, T9, 
T10 etc., they use the Honeywell Home app which is quite accessible. I haven't 
played around with the schedule much because my wife and I are not keeping a 
schedule to the point where it would even make sense to set one up. We also 
have our Honeywell T5, this I think is a discontinued model, but it was very 
inexpensive at $99 at the time) connected to Alexa so whenever we want to 
change the temperature we simply ask Alexa to do so.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust it 
with a little tedious double checking.
But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C947ea2e10aec400d7da908d90c000abc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637554016584805121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=

Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, does anyone know how to figure out the model of Honeywell. We have just 
moved into this house and inherited a touchscreen Honeywell thermostat, but we 
have no idea what the model is. We also can't figure out if it connects to 
Wi-Fi or not. Surely it does, if it's all touchscreen. What are your thoughts?

Thank you,
Traci
 

> On May 1, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You should look a the Lyric series of Honeywell thermostats like the T6, T9, 
> T10 etc., they use the Honeywell Home app which is quite accessible. I 
> haven't played around with the schedule much because my wife and I are not 
> keeping a schedule to the point where it would even make sense to set one up. 
> We also have our Honeywell T5, this I think is a discontinued model, but it 
> was very inexpensive at $99 at the time) connected to Alexa so whenever we 
> want to change the temperature we simply ask Alexa to do so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
> Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust 
> it with a little tedious double checking.
> But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi Mike,
>  
> We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
> probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
> working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.
>  
> Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
> workable about it?
>  
> Thanks,
> Pam
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi Tracy,
>  
> We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
> thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
> VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
> confirmation of setting changes and instructions.  
>  
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
> app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.
>  
> But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.
>  
> The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
> their thermostat, really?
>  
> Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
> thermostats.
>  
> I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
> have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
> things.
>  
>  
> The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
> you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
> adjustments.
> But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C947ea2e10aec400d7da908d90c000abc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637554016584805121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=ab9FT76ey1wddKCLLP4AGWLUgMq5VIapfEcad%2FDrfnw

RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You should look a the Lyric series of Honeywell thermostats like the T6, T9, 
T10 etc., they use the Honeywell Home app which is quite accessible. I haven't 
played around with the schedule much because my wife and I are not keeping a 
schedule to the point where it would even make sense to set one up. We also 
have our Honeywell T5, this I think is a discontinued model, but it was very 
inexpensive at $99 at the time) connected to Alexa so whenever we want to 
change the temperature we simply ask Alexa to do so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust it 
with a little tedious double checking.
But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C947ea2e10aec400d7da908d90c000abc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637554016584805121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=ab9FT76ey1wddKCLLP4AGWLUgMq5VIapfEcad%2FDrfnw%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide between 
a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your experience with 
smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in the article seem 
way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fhome%2Fbest-smart-thermostats%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C947ea2e10aec400d7da908d90c000abc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637554016584805121%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=yHwW%2FYp0ddcPEmlaGTtBqphSO3gefMdFGcFsEY23aAU%3D=0>

--
The following information is import

Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Mike B]

I would think the switches labeled, E, and , G, would stand for electric and 
gas.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...


Hi Andy,



Thanks for the suggestions.  We did try changing the batteries, and that did 
not help.  The only switch we found has the positions labeled “E” and “G”. 
I have no idea what that means, but we tried changing it from where it was 
set at “E”, and it made no difference.



Thanks.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...



on the inside of the unit that contains the batteries, there is a 2 position 
cycling switch. You should make sure that it is set to the short cycling 
position. This will make sure that the AC or heating unit runs for a shorter 
period of time. With some installations, the batteries provide the voltage 
to the system. Try changing the batteries and see if this makes a 
difference.



Andy



  - Original Message - 

  From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 11:15 AM

  Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...



  Hi Traci,



  Quite often, the air conditioner stays on much longer than it needs to. 
For example, we usually have it set to 76 degrees during the day, and often 
have to turn it to 79 or 80 to get it to shut off, even though other 
thermometers indicate that the temperature we set it for has been reached. 
Also, the button to tell you what the current temperature is does not work. 
We had an air conditioning tech out yesterday because our compressor has 
been cycling on and off, and he said the voltage from the thermostat to the 
outside unit was fluctuating.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Traci Duncan
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...



  This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is 
the problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with 
no problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t 
get it disconnected to come to the new house.



  Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I 
found it on this website.



  https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/



  Thank you,

  Traci



  Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:



Hi Mike,



We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.



Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find 
less workable about it?



Thanks,

Pam







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...



Hi Tracy,



We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
confirmation of setting changes and instructions.



Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM

Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...



We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section 
of the app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.



But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.



The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out 
of their thermostat, really?



Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.



I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule. 
I have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
things.





The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes 
down, you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
adjustments.

But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.

HTH,





Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Traci Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...



Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I can

RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the suggestions.  We did try changing the batteries, and that did 
not help.  The only switch we found has the positions labeled “E” and “G”.  I 
have no idea what that means, but we tried changing it from where it was set at 
“E”, and it made no difference.

Thanks.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

on the inside of the unit that contains the batteries, there is a 2 position 
cycling switch. You should make sure that it is set to the short cycling 
position. This will make sure that the AC or heating unit runs for a shorter 
period of time. With some installations, the batteries provide the voltage to 
the system. Try changing the batteries and see if this makes a difference.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND<mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 11:15 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Traci,

Quite often, the air conditioner stays on much longer than it needs to.  For 
example, we usually have it set to 76 degrees during the day, and often have to 
turn it to 79 or 80 to get it to shut off, even though other thermometers 
indicate that the temperature we set it for has been reached.  Also, the button 
to tell you what the current temperature is does not work.  We had an air 
conditioning tech out yesterday because our compressor has been cycling on and 
off, and he said the voltage from the thermostat to the outside unit was 
fluctuating.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is the 
problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with no 
problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t get it 
disconnected to come to the new house.

Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I found it 
on this website.

https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.everydaysight.com%2Ftalking-thermostats%2F=04%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7Cdad530e06a1542a50c2208d90c3cb765%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637554277186279751%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=4%2F8%2FB0Bg3jKZzszRRu103w%2FgiQFC1C2dzFpgnCTBhPA%3D=0>

Thank you,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
th

Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Andy Baracco]

on the inside of the unit that contains the batteries, there is a 2 position 
cycling switch. You should make sure that it is set to the short cycling 
position. This will make sure that the AC or heating unit runs for a shorter 
period of time. With some installations, the batteries provide the voltage to 
the system. Try changing the batteries and see if this makes a difference.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 11:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...


  Hi Traci,

   

  Quite often, the air conditioner stays on much longer than it needs to.  For 
example, we usually have it set to 76 degrees during the day, and often have to 
turn it to 79 or 80 to get it to shut off, even though other thermometers 
indicate that the temperature we set it for has been reached.  Also, the button 
to tell you what the current temperature is does not work.  We had an air 
conditioning tech out yesterday because our compressor has been cycling on and 
off, and he said the voltage from the thermostat to the outside unit was 
fluctuating.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:54 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

   

  This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is the 
problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with no 
problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t get it 
disconnected to come to the new house.

   

  Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I found 
it on this website.

   

  https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/

   

  Thank you,

  Traci

   

  Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:

 

Hi Mike,

 

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

 

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

 

Hi Tracy,

 

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.  

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM

Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

 

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of 
the app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

 

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

 

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

 

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

 

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.

 

 

The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.

But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.

HTH,

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Traci Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...

 

Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
between a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your 
experience with smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in 
the article seem way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set 
programs, be able to adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

 

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/

 

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Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Mike B]

Since the inception of the VIP thermostats, and I've been using them 
literally since they 1st came out over 20 years ago, I can only recall 1 
failing on us.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Traci Duncan
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...


This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is 
the problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with 
no problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t 
get it disconnected to come to the new house.


Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I found 
it on this website.


https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/


Thank you,
Traci


Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:


  
  Hi Mike,



  We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.



  Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find 
less workable about it?



  Thanks,

  Pam







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mike B
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...



  Hi Tracy,



  We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
confirmation of setting changes and instructions.



  Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM

  Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...



  We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of 
the app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.



  But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.



  The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?



  Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.



  I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
things.





  The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
adjustments.

  But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.

  HTH,





  Richard

  "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

  - John Ruskin, 1819-1900



  Web site: www.turner42.com







  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Traci Duncan
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...



  Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
between a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your 
experience with smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models 
in the article seem way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set 
programs, be able to adjust temperature, or turn off the system.



  Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.



  https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/



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Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Mike B]

Hi Pam,

It's only accessible via the ADT Pulse portal / website and manually of 
course.  It doesn't speak, a couple of the buttons are hard to detect and it 
has a bunch of useless settings that we'd never use.  In short, it does work 
fine since when we're only at that house a few times a year, I can control 
it via my iPhone and I have the necessary buttons and functions memorized 
when we're there.

I don't know what company makes it for ADT, but it's an ADT thermostat.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...


Hi Mike,



We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.



Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?



Thanks,

Pam







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...



Hi Tracy,



We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
confirmation of setting changes and instructions.



Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM

Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...



We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of 
the app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.



But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.



The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?



Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.



I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
things.





The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
adjustments.

But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.

HTH,





Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



Web site: www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...



Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
between a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your 
experience with smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models 
in the article seem way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set 
programs, be able to adjust temperature, or turn off the system.



Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.



https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/



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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Traci,

Quite often, the air conditioner stays on much longer than it needs to.  For 
example, we usually have it set to 76 degrees during the day, and often have to 
turn it to 79 or 80 to get it to shut off, even though other thermometers 
indicate that the temperature we set it for has been reached.  Also, the button 
to tell you what the current temperature is does not work.  We had an air 
conditioning tech out yesterday because our compressor has been cycling on and 
off, and he said the voltage from the thermostat to the outside unit was 
fluctuating.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is the 
problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with no 
problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t get it 
disconnected to come to the new house.

Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I found it 
on this website.

https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.everydaysight.com%2Ftalking-thermostats%2F=04%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C91135b05df5e43a9491e08d90c00fb43%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637554020624503532%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=7nOUeuYp7B4mwgwtrHdVxM%2F0RkKxwhg3CIwcn5Y2kvs%3D=0>

Thank you,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand@disney.com>> 
wrote:

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

Web site: 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide between 
a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your experience with 
smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in the article seem 
way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-

Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Traci Duncan]

This is getting just a little bit off topic, but Pam, I’m curious what is the 
problem you’ve been having with the VIP thermostats? I used it fine with no 
problems, as far as I know of, for 10 years. Unfortunately, we couldn’t get it 
disconnected to come to the new house.

Along the talking lines, has anyone heard of HPS talking thermostat? I found it 
on this website.

https://www.everydaysight.com/talking-thermostats/

Thank you,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mike,
>  
> We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have 
> probably had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not 
> working well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.
>  
> Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
> workable about it?
>  
> Thanks,
> Pam
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi Tracy,
>  
> We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
> thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
> VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
> confirmation of setting changes and instructions. 
>  
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
> app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.
>  
> But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.
>  
> The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
> their thermostat, really?
>  
> Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
> thermostats.
>  
> I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
> have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
> things.
>  
>  
> The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
> you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
> adjustments.
> But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
> HTH,
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it."
> 
> - John Ruskin, 1819-1900
> 
>  
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...
>  
> Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
> between a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your 
> experience with smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in 
> the article seem way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set 
> programs, be able to adjust temperature, or turn off the system.
>  
> Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.
>  
> https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/
>  
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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Richard Turner]

BTW, I just took another stab at the scheduling feature in the Total Connect 
Comfort app that works with Honeywell thermostats, and I was able to adjust it 
with a little tedious double checking.
But it is better than it was and it is mostly accessible.



Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message -
From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."
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a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your experience with 
smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in the article seem 
way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Mike,

We have had a VIP Talking Thermostat for years, well actually we have probably 
had three or four of them due to issues with them.  It is again not working 
well, so we are now investigating smart thermostats.

Just curious, which smart thermostat do you have, and what do you find less 
workable about it?

Thanks,
Pam



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Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the VIP 
Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking confirmation of 
setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
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way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

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Re: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Mike B]

Hi Tracy,

We have 2 homes and we have a smart thermostat in 1, and a VIP talking 
thermostat in the other.  If we were to stay in 1 place I would choose the 
VIP Talking Thermostat because of its ease of use and the speaking 
confirmation of setting changes and instructions.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Subject: RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...


We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of 
the app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.



But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.



The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?



Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.



I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I 
have not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those 
things.





The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, 
you would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make 
adjustments.

But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.

HTH,





Richard

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what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900



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Duncan
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...



Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide 
between a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your 
experience with smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models 
in the article seem way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set 
programs, be able to adjust temperature, or turn off the system.



Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.



https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/



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RE: Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Richard Turner]

We have a Honeywell model that works quite well.  The schedule section of the 
app is difficult/not worth using with VoiceOver.

But, Once the program is set, you can do adjustments quite easily.

The Ecobee looks like a tech geeks dream but who wants music coming out of 
their thermostat, really?

Check with your utility company, they may have some great deals on smart 
thermostats.

I do not know, even with ours, if you can use Alexa to set a schedule.  I have 
not tried that as I am spoiled by having a sighted wife to do those things.


The one down side of smart thermostats is that if your internet goes down, you 
would have to be able to use the controls on the device to make adjustments.
But, it will still work on the schedule I believe.
HTH,


Richard
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:03 AM
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Subject: Speaking of smart thermostats...

Hi all, I'm in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide between 
a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your experience with 
smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in the article seem 
way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
adjust temperature, or turn off the system.

Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

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Speaking of smart thermostats...

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, I’m in the market for an accessible thermostat. I cannot decide between 
a smart one or replacing my talking model. What has been your experience with 
smart thermostats and their apps? Some of the below models in the article seem 
way too feature rich for my needs. I mainly want to set programs, be able to 
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Thanks for any assistance. Hope you find the article useful.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/best-smart-thermostats/ 
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Re: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sieghard,
Once again we’re on the same wave length so it seems.  My electrician just left 
and he was kind enough to explore possibilities and it would seem that a Lyric 
t6 might be headed my way soon.
Thanks everyone for educating me as always.  I appreciate being able to benefit 
from the wisdom and experiences of others who must navigate accessibility 
issues regularly.
It is a rare person like my electrician who will enable VoiceOver on his device 
to test the accessibility of an app just because he can and was genuinely 
interested. I salute him for his care and proclaim it to the world.
Take good care.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

And there are also the much less expensive Honeywell Lyric thermostats which 
use an app which used to be called Lyric but got renamed to Honeywell Home, 
it’s very accessible and these thermostats support all 3 major voice platforms, 
Home Kit/SIRI, Alexa and Google Assistant.

They do also have more expensive thermostats which for us all have bells and 
whistles we never use. We have the Lyric T5 which I think is now replaced with 
a newer model, but I think I paid around $180 Canadian for it so it would have 
probably been $129 or $149 US. 

 

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Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Honeywell has thermostats that work over WiFi using their Total Comfort Control 
app. I suspect several will work with the variety of home systems. 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





  On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

   

  Hello Robin, 

  I have the Nest thermostats in my home and love them. The app is pretty 
accessible and they provide tech support. I had the Echo Bee thermostats for 
about five months and at that time (2017) the mobile app was not accessible. I 
tried to work with them over several phone calls with long wait times 25-45 
minutes, and they had no knowledge of accessibility for people who are blind. 
Though it was well passed my money back return period, after a long phone 
discussion on the topic of returning the Echo Bee due to lack of accessibility, 
they did refund my money upon the return of the two thermostats.

   

  Before I tried the Nest thrmostats, I called their tech support and was 
pleasantly surprised that the tech person whipped out his iPhone and turned on 
VoiceOver and walked me through the app. That was so cool and such a contrast 
to my experience with Echo Bee. So I bought the two Nest thermostats for our 
two AC units and have been very happy. Oh, I have not needed to call Nest tech 
support after that first demo. I had an HVAC professional do the installation 
of both the Echo Bee and the Nest. So, I did lose the cost of the first install 
for the Echo Bees. 

   

  I have heard since that the Echo Bee thermostat app is accessible now. Don’t 
know though. 

   

  Best,

  Terri Hedgpeth

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  Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

   

  Hi,

  Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.

  Take good care.

  Robin

   

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RE: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I guess if you have a bunch of other Nest product then using the Nest 
thermostat is certainly a good option since you wouldn’t have to download 
another app just for the thermostat.
At my retail store I still use 2 of the Radio Thermostats, I bought those for 
$139 about 6 or 7 years ago and even though I can’t use Alexa or Google 
Assistant to control them, I won’t upgrade them to a Nest or Honeywell just 
because they work just fine, the app is easily accessible if I want to turn the 
temperature up or down a bit and otherwise they are on a schedule anyways since 
my store is open 9 AM to 6 PM from Monday to Saturday so in this case it is 
easy to set the schedule so it goes to 15 Celsius at 5:45 PM and then at 8:30 
AM it goes to 20 Celsius and while it takes a good 45 minutes to an hour before 
the store is heated up in the morning depending on how cold it is outside, that 
is fine.

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Honeywell has thermostats that work over WiFi using their Total Comfort Control 
app. I suspect several will work with the variety of home systems.


Richard
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On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

Hello Robin,
I have the Nest thermostats in my home and love them. The app is pretty 
accessible and they provide tech support. I had the Echo Bee thermostats for 
about five months and at that time (2017) the mobile app was not accessible. I 
tried to work with them over several phone calls with long wait times 25-45 
minutes, and they had no knowledge of accessibility for people who are blind. 
Though it was well passed my money back return period, after a long phone 
discussion on the topic of returning the Echo Bee due to lack of accessibility, 
they did refund my money upon the return of the two thermostats.

Before I tried the Nest thrmostats, I called their tech support and was 
pleasantly surprised that the tech person whipped out his iPhone and turned on 
VoiceOver and walked me through the app. That was so cool and such a contrast 
to my experience with Echo Bee. So I bought the two Nest thermostats for our 
two AC units and have been very happy. Oh, I have not needed to call Nest tech 
support after that first demo. I had an HVAC professional do the installation 
of both the Echo Bee and the Nest. So, I did lose the cost of the first install 
for the Echo Bees.

I have heard since that the Echo Bee thermostat app is accessible now. Don’t 
know though.

Best,
Terri Hedgpeth
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:03 PM
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Hi,
Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.
Take good care.
Robin

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RE: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And there are also the much less expensive Honeywell Lyric thermostats which 
use an app which used to be called Lyric but got renamed to Honeywell Home, 
it’s very accessible and these thermostats support all 3 major voice platforms, 
Home Kit/SIRI, Alexa and Google Assistant.
They do also have more expensive thermostats which for us all have bells and 
whistles we never use. We have the Lyric T5 which I think is now replaced with 
a newer model, but I think I paid around $180 Canadian for it so it would have 
probably been $129 or $149 US.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 3:40 PM
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Subject: Re: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

Honeywell has thermostats that work over WiFi using their Total Comfort Control 
app. I suspect several will work with the variety of home systems.


Richard
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On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:

Hello Robin,
I have the Nest thermostats in my home and love them. The app is pretty 
accessible and they provide tech support. I had the Echo Bee thermostats for 
about five months and at that time (2017) the mobile app was not accessible. I 
tried to work with them over several phone calls with long wait times 25-45 
minutes, and they had no knowledge of accessibility for people who are blind. 
Though it was well passed my money back return period, after a long phone 
discussion on the topic of returning the Echo Bee due to lack of accessibility, 
they did refund my money upon the return of the two thermostats.

Before I tried the Nest thrmostats, I called their tech support and was 
pleasantly surprised that the tech person whipped out his iPhone and turned on 
VoiceOver and walked me through the app. That was so cool and such a contrast 
to my experience with Echo Bee. So I bought the two Nest thermostats for our 
two AC units and have been very happy. Oh, I have not needed to call Nest tech 
support after that first demo. I had an HVAC professional do the installation 
of both the Echo Bee and the Nest. So, I did lose the cost of the first install 
for the Echo Bees.

I have heard since that the Echo Bee thermostat app is accessible now. Don’t 
know though.

Best,
Terri Hedgpeth
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:03 PM
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Subject: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

Hi,
Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.
Take good care.
Robin

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Re: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Richard Turner]

Honeywell has thermostats that work over WiFi using their Total Comfort Control 
app. I suspect several will work with the variety of home systems.



Richard
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On Jan 2, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Terri Hedgpeth  wrote:


Hello Robin,
I have the Nest thermostats in my home and love them. The app is pretty 
accessible and they provide tech support. I had the Echo Bee thermostats for 
about five months and at that time (2017) the mobile app was not accessible. I 
tried to work with them over several phone calls with long wait times 25-45 
minutes, and they had no knowledge of accessibility for people who are blind. 
Though it was well passed my money back return period, after a long phone 
discussion on the topic of returning the Echo Bee due to lack of accessibility, 
they did refund my money upon the return of the two thermostats.

Before I tried the Nest thrmostats, I called their tech support and was 
pleasantly surprised that the tech person whipped out his iPhone and turned on 
VoiceOver and walked me through the app. That was so cool and such a contrast 
to my experience with Echo Bee. So I bought the two Nest thermostats for our 
two AC units and have been very happy. Oh, I have not needed to call Nest tech 
support after that first demo. I had an HVAC professional do the installation 
of both the Echo Bee and the Nest. So, I did lose the cost of the first install 
for the Echo Bees.

I have heard since that the Echo Bee thermostat app is accessible now. Don’t 
know though.

Best,
Terri Hedgpeth
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:03 PM
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Subject: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

Hi,
Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.
Take good care.
Robin

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RE: smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Terri Hedgpeth]

Hello Robin, 

I have the Nest thermostats in my home and love them. The app is pretty 
accessible and they provide tech support. I had the Echo Bee thermostats for 
about five months and at that time (2017) the mobile app was not accessible. I 
tried to work with them over several phone calls with long wait times 25-45 
minutes, and they had no knowledge of accessibility for people who are blind. 
Though it was well passed my money back return period, after a long phone 
discussion on the topic of returning the Echo Bee due to lack of accessibility, 
they did refund my money upon the return of the two thermostats.

 

Before I tried the Nest thrmostats, I called their tech support and was 
pleasantly surprised that the tech person whipped out his iPhone and turned on 
VoiceOver and walked me through the app. That was so cool and such a contrast 
to my experience with Echo Bee. So I bought the two Nest thermostats for our 
two AC units and have been very happy. Oh, I have not needed to call Nest tech 
support after that first demo. I had an HVAC professional do the installation 
of both the Echo Bee and the Nest. So, I did lose the cost of the first install 
for the Echo Bees. 

 

I have heard since that the Echo Bee thermostat app is accessible now. Don’t 
know though. 

 

Best,

Terri Hedgpeth

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Frost
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:03 PM
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Hi,

Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.

Take good care.

Robin

 

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smart thermostats and their apps with voiceover?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sorry for the vague subject line there. But I was just curious what if any 
smart thermostats people are making use of either in conjunction with Amazon 
Echo's and smart home apps that might be accessible with voiceOver. All 
thoughts appreciated as I begin considering purchasing such a device.
Take good care.
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RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Anne West]

Have heat pumps here, one in my living room and one in my bedroom. They operate 
with a remote. Unfortunately, there is not an app or talking system. If you 
want more info, drop me a note off list.

 

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Subject: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats 

 

I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
that kind of stuff.  I am having to replace my furnace and am going with the 
heat pump system so is there a total accessible app that works with voice over? 
 Many thanks for any help you can give.

 

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Re: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

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Subject: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
that kind of stuff.  I am having to replace my furnace and am going with the 
heat pump system so is there a total accessible app that works with voice over? 
 Many thanks for any help you can give.

Carla


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RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Carla]

Will do thanks.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 3:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats
 
Ask them which model and which app is used with it.
Yu can then download the app and it will likely have a demo mode so you can 
begin getting familiar with it.
You will need the Mac address of the thermostat once it is installed and have 
them help you get it connected to your WiFi.
You’ll also need to create an account with Honeywell.
Enjoy,
 
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 
Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/> 
 
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Yes it is going to be a Honeywell.  Thanks so much!
 
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It depends on the thermostat you get with your system.
Honeywell thermostats have ones that are WiFi accessible and work well with an 
iPhone and VoiceOver.
That is the only brand I have direct experience with.
HTH,
Richard
 
 
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I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
that kind of stuff.  I am having to replace my furnace and am going with the 
heat pump system so is there a total accessible app that works with voice over? 
 Many thanks for any help you can give.
 
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RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

Ask them which model and which app is used with it.
Yu can then download the app and it will likely have a demo mode so you can 
begin getting familiar with it.
You will need the Mac address of the thermostat once it is installed and have 
them help you get it connected to your WiFi.
You’ll also need to create an account with Honeywell.
Enjoy,


Richard

 Live long and prosper


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2019 3:02 PM
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Yes it is going to be a Honeywell.  Thanks so much!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

It depends on the thermostat you get with your system.
Honeywell thermostats have ones that are WiFi accessible and work well with an 
iPhone and VoiceOver.
That is the only brand I have direct experience with.
HTH,
Richard


Richard

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Subject: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
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heat pump system so is there a total accessible app that works with voice over? 
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RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Carla]

Yes it is going to be a Honeywell.  Thanks so much!
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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It depends on the thermostat you get with your system.
Honeywell thermostats have ones that are WiFi accessible and work well with an 
iPhone and VoiceOver.
That is the only brand I have direct experience with.
HTH,
Richard
 
 
Richard
 
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I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
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heat pump system so is there a total accessible app that works with voice over? 
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RE: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

It depends on the thermostat you get with your system.
Honeywell thermostats have ones that are WiFi accessible and work well with an 
iPhone and VoiceOver.
That is the only brand I have direct experience with.
HTH,
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
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Subject: Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the 
thread.  Please don't tell me to look in the archives because I am not good at 
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Accessible iPhone App For Thermostats

[Carla]

I know this has been covered before but not needing one I didn't follow the
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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That depends entirely on your schedule and who else lives in your house and 
their schedule. At my retail store we also use connected thermostats and since 
there are of course regular hours it is easy to set a schedule for the heat to 
come on about half an hour before opening time and get things to a certain 
level and to also get it to turn the heat down to 15 Celsius about 15 minutes 
before closing However, at our house this wouldn't work because my wife usually 
comes to the store 3 or 4 times a week and sometimes she goes with me in the 
morning and sometimes she comes later, sometimes I may go at 7 AM and other 
times at Noon. It is much easier for us to use our smart thermostat with our 
smart speakers at home or, when we are both at the store, on our iPhones to 
turn the heat up a bit before we go home or to turn it down if we forget to 
tell Alexa or the Google Home to do so when we leave.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

The thing about programmable thermostats is that it is usually a set and forget 
thing. I hardly ever have occasion to diddle with the thermostat once the 
programming is done.

Andy

- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats


I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

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Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than hal

Re: Talking Thermostats

[Andy Baracco]

The thing about programmable thermostats is that it is usually a set and 
forget thing. I hardly ever have occasion to diddle with the thermostat once 
the programming is done.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats


I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.


It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.


HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?


Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a Nest costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.


Dulce


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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

It connects through your WiFi.
It is just hard wired to the furnace/AC.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 4, 2019, at 8:11 AM, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,
Good to know than you. So the hard wiring gives it its power but is it 
connecting via wi-fi then? It isn't hard wired to your modem/router then is it? 
I didn't think so but didn't want to assume.


-Original Message- From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control panel 
is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, program it on 
the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, we 
call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done buttons 
so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told me 
the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key since 
you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your specific 
thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth paying 
to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Good to know than you. So the hard wiring gives it its power but is it 
connecting via wi-fi then? It isn't hard wired to your modem/router then is 
it? I didn't think so but didn't want to assume.



-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control 
panel is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, 
program it on the touch screen.

The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, 
we call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done 
buttons so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet 
access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told 
me the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key 
since you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your 
specific thermostat.


It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth 
paying to have that done as it protects the warrantee.


HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I 
don't think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. 
Maybe with the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could 
be done, never tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make 
some sort of tactile overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that 
works. I still have a plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as 
well (the one with the lever underneath which you push from left to right) 
so if the smart thermostat for some reason does not work I can simply use 
it. I must say, however, that I probably had to do this once or twice in the 
years I had my smart thermostat, but it of course all depends on how 
reliable your internet is. There have been definitely more times when a 
power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours was an issue although for 
us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter since we have a wood 
stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our house if we leave all 
the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric 
T5 has to be hardwired.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?


Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a Nest costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.


Dulce


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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Richard Turner]

I have a different model of a Honeywell thermostat and while the control panel 
is a touch screen, my sighted wife can control it and if needed, program it on 
the touch screen.
The app is fully accessible with VoiceOver.
And, I just had my wife check, it would be very easy to put a tactile dot, we 
call them lock dots, that are tiny and clear, on the up, down, and done buttons 
so a blind person could adjust the temperature without the internet access.
The guy who installed ours was doing that while my wife was out, but he told me 
the info I needed to set up the app, the mac address number is the key since 
you have to have that since it is the unique identifier for your specific 
thermostat.

It is, as Sieghard said, hardwired, and personally, I think it is worth paying 
to have that done as it protects the warrantee.

HTH,
Richard
.

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

Yes, the Honeywell thermostat can be used just like any thermostat, but I don't 
think it could be done by a blind person since it is a touch screen. Maybe with 
the help of a sighted assistant from Aira or Be My Eyes it could be done, never 
tried it nor did I ever try to  have a sighted person make some sort of tactile 
overlay or put dots on the touch screen to see if that works. I still have a 
plain old $20 mechanical thermostat in my house as well (the one with the lever 
underneath which you push from left to right) so if the smart thermostat for 
some reason does not work I can simply use it. I must say, however, that I 
probably had to do this once or twice in the years I had my smart thermostat, 
but it of course all depends on how reliable your internet is. There have been 
definitely more times when a power outage which lasted more than 3 or 4 hours 
was an issue although for us it's also not such a big issue even in the winter 
since we have a wood stove which can easily heat the entire upstairs of our 
house if we leave all the doors open.
And yes, just as any smart thermostat I have ever seen this Honeywell Lyric T5 
has to be hardwired.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking Thermostats

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in any 
kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance just 
raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't mean 
programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this thread 
which was powered by 4 AA batteries?

Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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Re: Talking Thermostats

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sieghard,
Can you tell us more about the Honeywell thermostat? I.E. what is the unit 
itself like does it have any controls on it in the event that internet 
connectivity is down can someone who is still blind operate it manually in 
any kind of fashion? Can sighted people operate it manually for instance 
just raising or lowering temperature settings that sort of thing I didn't 
mean programming of course.
Is it hard wired or is it like the talking thermostat that started this 
thread which was powered by 4 AA batteries?


Thanks as always for insights shared from experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking Thermostats

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure 
Nest thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a 
Honeywell Lyric T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also 
works very well and has an accessible app and it only costs less than half 
of what a Nest costs.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dulce 
Muccio Weisenborn

Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.


Dulce


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RE: Talking Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are many good connected thermostats available these days, I am sure Nest 
thermostats are good, but they do seem to be pricy and I have a Honeywell Lyric 
T5 (I think there is probably a newer model now) which also works very well and 
has an accessible app and it only costs less than half of what a Nest costs.
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Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking Thermostats

Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

Dulce


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Talking Thermostats

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Hi, All.  I'd like to hear from anyone who is using a Nest thermostat with a 
google app or smart speaker.  I think that is what my neighbor suggested.

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yu can't really operate it manually as a blind person, at least I haven't 
tried. I guess maybe you could if you had a sighted person figure it out first 
and then maybe put on a few tactile dots to indicate where you have to push.
Our T5 has at times disconnected, but you typically only have to take it off 
it's wall-mount cradle and snap it back on to reset it and it should reconnect. 
Probably a good idea to get the installer to show you how that works. I guess 
in my case I have the advantage that Jackie can do some trouble shooting if 
necessary and I still have a super-old fashion thermostat upstairs which just 
has the lever at the bottom you slide from left to right. Our Lyric T5 is 
downstairs as it's always a bit cooler there and this way if we have a visitor 
staying in our guest room downstairs it's easier to make sure it's comfortable 
and we just know that whatever temperature we set downstairs makes it a degree 
or 1.5 degrees warmer upstairs and of course for my lovely wife warmer = better 
*smile*.
We also have a woodstove in the living room upstairs and at times when it's 
really cold outside and nobody is using the downstairs we set the Lyric 
downstairs to 15 or 16 degrees, close all the vents upstairs and then use the 
woodstove upstairs which makes it warmer than you want in n o time if you are 
not careful and put in too many pieces of wood.
It might just be a good idea to ask your installer if he can put a basic 
manual/mechanical thermostat next to the Lyric T6, just keep it turned all the 
way down but this way if you ever have an issue with the T6 at least you have 
something to fall back on and these things only cost $20.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 7:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  Yes, that is why I bought the T6, not much difference in price 
from the T5.
Just received it and feeling a little intimidated with that flat face, almost 
like the first time I saw an IPhone.
What is your experience with operating it manually and how was it to install?

Cheers….Reg


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

That sounds like a good option at a good price and checking the differences I 
would now probably have ordered the T6 instead of the T5. When I bought the T5 
I did so with I think it was Aeroplan points and they are not that different, 
one difference is that the T6 allows you to connect additional indoor or 
outdoor sensors so for example you could buy whatever compatible sensor that 
would be and put it in a different room.

Take care,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hey Sieghard and good morning.
I ordered the Honeywell Lyric U T6 WIFI Thermostat from Amazon for $146.
Fingers crossed that it will be an easy installation and that it will work well 
with Google as promised!

Will review it when installed.

Cheers….Reg



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5
There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple 
Store<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best 
Buy<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home 
Depot<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordere

RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Reg Sullivan]

Hi Sieghard.  Yes, that is why I bought the T6, not much difference in price 
from the T5.  

Just received it and feeling a little intimidated with that flat face, almost 
like the first time I saw an IPhone.

What is your experience with operating it manually and how was it to install?

 

Cheers….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

That sounds like a good option at a good price and checking the differences I 
would now probably have ordered the T6 instead of the T5. When I bought the T5 
I did so with I think it was Aeroplan points and they are not that different, 
one difference is that the T6 allows you to connect additional indoor or 
outdoor sensors so for example you could buy whatever compatible sensor that 
would be and put it in a different room.

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hey Sieghard and good morning.

I ordered the Honeywell Lyric U T6 WIFI Thermostat from Amazon for $146.

Fingers crossed that it will be an easy installation and that it will work well 
with Google as promised!

 

Will review it when installed.

 

Cheers….Reg

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5

There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

 

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple Store 
<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>
 

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best Buy 
<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>
 

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home Depot 
<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>
 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.

I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.

Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.

After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

 

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Tru

RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Reg,

That sounds like a good option at a good price and checking the differences I 
would now probably have ordered the T6 instead of the T5. When I bought the T5 
I did so with I think it was Aeroplan points and they are not that different, 
one difference is that the T6 allows you to connect additional indoor or 
outdoor sensors so for example you could buy whatever compatible sensor that 
would be and put it in a different room.

Take care,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hey Sieghard and good morning.
I ordered the Honeywell Lyric U T6 WIFI Thermostat from Amazon for $146.
Fingers crossed that it will be an easy installation and that it will work well 
with Google as promised!

Will review it when installed.

Cheers….Reg



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5
There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple 
Store<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best 
Buy<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home 
Depot<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.
I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.
Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.
After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

Regards….Reg


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

Regards….Reg




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, A

RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Reg Sullivan]

Hey Sieghard and good morning.

I ordered the Honeywell Lyric U T6 WIFI Thermostat from Amazon for $146.

Fingers crossed that it will be an easy installation and that it will work well 
with Google as promised!

 

Will review it when installed.

 

Cheers….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5

There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

 

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple Store 
<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>
 

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best Buy 
<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>
 

 

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home Depot 
<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>
 

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.

I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.

Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.

After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

 

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.

In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected 

RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Reg,

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5.
There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple 
Store<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best 
Buy<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home 
Depot<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.
I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.
Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.
After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

Regards….Reg


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

Regards….Reg




From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@google

RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Reg Sullivan]

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.

I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.

Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.

After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

 

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Reg,

 

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.

In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robbie Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Tom Rash]

I agree with that.  That is just the one I started out with.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi Tom,

 

I have no doubt the Nest thermostat is also good, but the Lyric T5 can do the 
same thing at less than half the price.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

We control our Nest thermostat via the iPhone or Alexa.  I’m not able to 
actually turn on heat or cool.  For example, if it is set to heat, which it 
usually is in the winter, just say Alexa, set the thermostat to 72 and the heat 
comes on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

millerrob...@comcast.net <mailto:millerrob...@comcast.net> 

 

 

 

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tom,

I have no doubt the Nest thermostat is also good, but the Lyric T5 can do the 
same thing at less than half the price.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 5:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

We control our Nest thermostat via the iPhone or Alexa.  I’m not able to 
actually turn on heat or cool.  For example, if it is set to heat, which it 
usually is in the winter, just say Alexa, set the thermostat to 72 and the heat 
comes on.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hello,
I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed.
Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat.

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa.

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone.

Is anyone using either of these thermostats?
Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?
I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Robbie

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Hi Reg,

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

Regards….Reg




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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on.

Regards,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hello,
I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed.
Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat.

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa.

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone.

Is anyone using either of these thermostats?
Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?
I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Robbie

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Tom Rash]

We control our Nest thermostat via the iPhone or Alexa.  I’m not able to 
actually turn on heat or cool.  For example, if it is set to heat, which it 
usually is in the winter, just say Alexa, set the thermostat to 72 and the heat 
comes on.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Reg Sullivan]

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

 

Regards….Reg

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.

In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on. 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robbie Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hello,
I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed.
Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat.

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa.

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone.

Is anyone using either of these thermostats?
Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?
I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Robbie

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RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi,

The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet

Hth -Steve

.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

 

Hello, 

I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

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Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

[Robbie Miller]

Hello, 

I'm looking to have a smart thermostat installed. 

Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat. 

 

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa. 

 

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone. 

 

Is anyone using either of these thermostats? 

Is anyone using one that's more accessible?

I would appreciate any advice. 

 

Thanks,

 

Robbie

 

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RE: Talking/accessible thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think some of these smart thermostats are overpriced and are trying to be too 
smart. This is why I like the Honeywell Lyric T5, it’s reasonable, it offers a 
schedule of course but it doesn’t pretend to do anything else like “learn”. 
Granted, Honeywell has the “Round” thermostat which I think also does this and 
which also costs more, for me spending $300 for a thermostat is just overkill 
and I bet a lot of people use a thermostat like my wife and I, we turn it up 
when we want it warmer and down when it’s too warm. Our schedules are way too 
irregular for a schedule and the beauty of these connected thermostats is that 
you can turn the temperature up or down from anywhere so there is not as much 
of a reason to program a schedule so it's warm when you come home, simply tell 
it to go up to whatever temperature you want 20 or 30 minutes before you get 
home and it will be warm when you get there.
I admit that I do use a schedule at my retail store, but that is easy since we 
open at 9 AM every day and close at 6 PM so getting the thermostat to turn on 
at 8:30 AM and off at 5:30 PM is easy and then on Sundays when we are closed we 
just keep it cool. I would rather spend $150 or there abouts and have a 
thermostat which works well with SIRI and Alexa as the Hoeywell does than to 
spend double just so my thermostat tries to learn what I want but it doesn’t 
work when I’m at home and tell Alexa to make it 2 degrees warmer.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 5:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Talking/accessible thermostats

I have the Nest, which works great with the iPhone, but not 100 percent 
accessible with Alexa.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Clark
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking/accessible thermostats

Hello,

Not sure if this topic has been discussed before. I am in need of purchasing a 
replacement thermostat and looking for feedback from others of what people are 
using. The VIP 1007 bit the dust and I am looking for different options 
including, but not limited to talking thermostats. I know there are smart ones 
out there with Alexa and IOS, but I would like to know how accessible they are.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff


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RE: Talking/accessible thermostats

[Tom Rash]

I have the Nest, which works great with the iPhone, but not 100 percent 
accessible with Alexa.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Clark
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking/accessible thermostats

 

Hello,

 

Not sure if this topic has been discussed before. I am in need of purchasing a 
replacement thermostat and looking for feedback from others of what people are 
using. The VIP 1007 bit the dust and I am looking for different options 
including, but not limited to talking thermostats. I know there are smart ones 
out there with Alexa and IOS, but I would like to know how accessible they are. 

 

Thanks in advance,

Jeff

 

 

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RE: Talking/accessible thermostats

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Without knowing the country I would say to take a look at the Honeywell Lyric 
line of WiFi smart thermostats. Here in North America the T5 is quite 
reasonable in price and it works well and has a very accessible app, it is both 
Apple Home Kit and Alexa capable so you can use either SIRI or Alexa to tell it 
to raise the temperature or lower it or set it to a certain number of degrees 
etc.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Talking/accessible thermostats

This topic was covered earlier. check the archives. the options depend
on your country. North America uses different electrical standards
than Europe.  You do not say for some reason your country so it is
impossible to respond to your question directly.


Kelly 


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On 8/30/18, Jeff Clark  wrote:
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>
>
>
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> purchasing
> a replacement thermostat and looking for feedback from others of what
> people
> are using. The VIP 1007 bit the dust and I am looking for different options
> including, but not limited to talking thermostats. I know there are smart
> ones out there with Alexa and IOS, but I would like to know how accessible
> they are.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
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Re: Talking/accessible thermostats

[Kelly Pierce]

This topic was covered earlier. check the archives. the options depend
on your country. North America uses different electrical standards
than Europe.  You do not say for some reason your country so it is
impossible to respond to your question directly.


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On 8/30/18, Jeff Clark  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Not sure if this topic has been discussed before. I am in need of
> purchasing
> a replacement thermostat and looking for feedback from others of what
> people
> are using. The VIP 1007 bit the dust and I am looking for different options
> including, but not limited to talking thermostats. I know there are smart
> ones out there with Alexa and IOS, but I would like to know how accessible
> they are.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
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Talking/accessible thermostats

[Jeff Clark]

Hello,

 

Not sure if this topic has been discussed before. I am in need of purchasing
a replacement thermostat and looking for feedback from others of what people
are using. The VIP 1007 bit the dust and I am looking for different options
including, but not limited to talking thermostats. I know there are smart
ones out there with Alexa and IOS, but I would like to know how accessible
they are. 

 

Thanks in advance,

Jeff

 

 

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RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I doubt it is compatible with the Honeywell Home app which used to be called 
the “Lyric” app as it is for the Lyric family of devices.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Sieghard,

I’ve got one of the (I think) 95xx series.It’s probably 3-4 years old or more 
at this point.  It was the first talking/wifi/touchscreen models they came out 
with.

Todd

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:39 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Todd,

Which thermostat do you have? This app I use, Honeywell Home, used to be called 
“Lyric” and it si for the line of Honeywell Lyric thermostats, the T5, T6 and I 
think therre might be one other one.

Regards,
SieghardYou might need to

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:38 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,

I think I know why we have the discrepencies.  I’m using the Honeywell Total 
Comfort Connect app, not the Honeywell Home app.  I didn’t realize there was 
another app from Honeywell that would control the thermostats.  I’ll check it 
out.  Thanks for your detailed descriptions.

Todd


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:07 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Todd,

When I open my Honeywell Home app I have a “Menu: button at the very top left.
If I double tap on it and then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen 
it takes me all the way down to “Logout”, if I swipe back once to the left I’m 
on a link “About the app”, double tap on that and do another 4-finger tap near 
the bottom of the screen and Voiceover jumps directly to the last item on the 
screen which is the version.

My version is 4.2.0 (371)

As for the current indoor temperature, when I first open the app and I have the 
menu button at the top left, I have an “Add new device” button as the last 
element on that screen and again a 4-finger single tap in the bottom half of 
the screen will take me there. Swiping back once to the left currently tells me 
“21.5 ring above inside”. Note that the “ring above” is a symbol and visually 
looks like the degrees symbol, but Voiceover in this instance speaks it as 
“ring above”.
Here is a full description of the screen:

Top line underneath the status bar: Menu button on the left, name of your home 
in the middle as a heading and “Weather Forecast” button at the top right
Underneath this: “My Thermostat” on the left, double tapping on that will open 
a new screen”,, next in the middle “Temperature set to 16.0 degrees Celsius, 
double tap to increase button” and on the right “Set temperature is 16.0 
degrees Celsius”
Underneath that on the left: “21.5 ring above inside”, the current room 
temperature measured by the thermostat and I think again underneath that (have 
to ask somebody to actually describe it) is the Add new device button.

Regards,
Sieghard

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:26 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,

Looks like my app is up to date from the app store.  I can’t find a version 
number anywhere in the app itself to confirm, though and my inside temp still 
doesn’t speak.  Knowing that yours does is hopeful...maybe it’ll show up soon 
in mine.

Todd


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
As Todd said, you may need to run a completely new wire from your furnace to 
where the thermostat goes if your existing wire doesn’t have the power lead 
which a regular thermostat does not require. You won’t know until you take off 
the existing thermostat and check.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Bill,
Matching wiring colors is not a problem.  I have sighted friends who can be 
present to match the colors for me when I do the install, but other than 
matching the colors of the four wires, would there be any other challenges in 
the installation itself?  I understand that I may need sighted help connecting 
it to my network, which should not be a problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Holton
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subj

Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

[Todd W]

Sieghard,

I’ve got one of the (I think) 95xx series.It’s probably 3-4 years old or
more at this point.  It was the first talking/wifi/touchscreen models they
came out with.

Todd

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:39 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Todd,
>
>
>
> Which thermostat do you have? This app I use, Honeywell Home, used to be
> called “Lyric” and it si for the line of Honeywell Lyric thermostats, the
> T5, T6 and I think therre might be one other one.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> SieghardYou might need to
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Todd W
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:38 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
>
>
> I think I know why we have the discrepencies.  I’m using the Honeywell
> Total Comfort Connect app, not the Honeywell Home app.  I didn’t realize
> there was another app from Honeywell that would control the thermostats.
> I’ll check it out.  Thanks for your detailed descriptions.
>
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:07 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Hi Todd,
>
>
>
> When I open my Honeywell Home app I have a “Menu: button at the very top
> left.
>
> If I double tap on it and then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the
> screen it takes me all the way down to “Logout”, if I swipe back once to
> the left I’m on a link “About the app”, double tap on that and do another
> 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen and Voiceover jumps directly to
> the last item on the screen which is the version.
>
>
>
> My version is 4.2.0 (371)
>
>
>
> As for the current indoor temperature, when I first open the app and I
> have the menu button at the top left, I have an “Add new device” button as
> the last element on that screen and again a 4-finger single tap in the
> bottom half of the screen will take me there. Swiping back once to the left
> currently tells me “21.5 ring above inside”. Note that the “ring above” is
> a symbol and visually looks like the degrees symbol, but Voiceover in this
> instance speaks it as “ring above”.
>
> Here is a full description of the screen:
>
>
>
> Top line underneath the status bar: Menu button on the left, name of your
> home in the middle as a heading and “Weather Forecast” button at the top
> right
>
> Underneath this: “My Thermostat” on the left, double tapping on that will
> open a new screen”,, next in the middle “Temperature set to 16.0 degrees
> Celsius, double tap to increase button” and on the right “Set temperature
> is 16.0 degrees Celsius”
>
> Underneath that on the left: “21.5 ring above inside”, the current room
> temperature measured by the thermostat and I think again underneath that
> (have to ask somebody to actually describe it) is the Add new device button.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
>  *On Behalf Of *Todd W
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:26 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
>
>
> Looks like my app is up to date from the app store.  I can’t find a
> version number anywhere in the app itself to confirm, though and my inside
> temp still doesn’t speak.  Knowing that yours does is hopeful...maybe it’ll
> show up soon in mine.
>
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> As Todd said, you may need to run a completely new wire from your furnace
> to where the thermostat goes if your existing wire doesn’t have the power
> lead which a regular thermostat does not require. You won’t know until you
> take off the existing thermostat and check.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cris Ali
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:56 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Matching wiring colors is not a problem.  I have sighted friends who can
> be present to match the colors for me when I do the install, but other than
> matching the colors of the four wires, would there be any other challenges
> in the installation itself?  I understand that I may need sighted help
> connecting it to my network, which should not be a problem.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Bill Holton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:52 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> 

RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Todd,

Which thermostat do you have? This app I use, Honeywell Home, used to be called 
“Lyric” and it si for the line of Honeywell Lyric thermostats, the T5, T6 and I 
think therre might be one other one.

Regards,
SieghardYou might need to

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,

I think I know why we have the discrepencies.  I’m using the Honeywell Total 
Comfort Connect app, not the Honeywell Home app.  I didn’t realize there was 
another app from Honeywell that would control the thermostats.  I’ll check it 
out.  Thanks for your detailed descriptions.

Todd


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:07 AM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Hi Todd,

When I open my Honeywell Home app I have a “Menu: button at the very top left.
If I double tap on it and then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen 
it takes me all the way down to “Logout”, if I swipe back once to the left I’m 
on a link “About the app”, double tap on that and do another 4-finger tap near 
the bottom of the screen and Voiceover jumps directly to the last item on the 
screen which is the version.

My version is 4.2.0 (371)

As for the current indoor temperature, when I first open the app and I have the 
menu button at the top left, I have an “Add new device” button as the last 
element on that screen and again a 4-finger single tap in the bottom half of 
the screen will take me there. Swiping back once to the left currently tells me 
“21.5 ring above inside”. Note that the “ring above” is a symbol and visually 
looks like the degrees symbol, but Voiceover in this instance speaks it as 
“ring above”.
Here is a full description of the screen:

Top line underneath the status bar: Menu button on the left, name of your home 
in the middle as a heading and “Weather Forecast” button at the top right
Underneath this: “My Thermostat” on the left, double tapping on that will open 
a new screen”,, next in the middle “Temperature set to 16.0 degrees Celsius, 
double tap to increase button” and on the right “Set temperature is 16.0 
degrees Celsius”
Underneath that on the left: “21.5 ring above inside”, the current room 
temperature measured by the thermostat and I think again underneath that (have 
to ask somebody to actually describe it) is the Add new device button.

Regards,
Sieghard

mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:26 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,

Looks like my app is up to date from the app store.  I can’t find a version 
number anywhere in the app itself to confirm, though and my inside temp still 
doesn’t speak.  Knowing that yours does is hopeful...maybe it’ll show up soon 
in mine.

Todd


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
As Todd said, you may need to run a completely new wire from your furnace to 
where the thermostat goes if your existing wire doesn’t have the power lead 
which a regular thermostat does not require. You won’t know until you take off 
the existing thermostat and check.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Bill,
Matching wiring colors is not a problem.  I have sighted friends who can be 
present to match the colors for me when I do the install, but other than 
matching the colors of the four wires, would there be any other challenges in 
the installation itself?  I understand that I may need sighted help connecting 
it to my network, which should not be a problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Holton
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

You will have to match wiring colors.  You will also need sighted help to 
connect the app, as I recall it displays an icon on the thermostat screen you 
have to match.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,
How easy is it to install this smart thermostat?  I am usually Okay with 
installing lights and such things, but I never installed thermostats.  Do I 
ne

Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

[Todd W]

Hi Sieghard,

I think I know why we have the discrepencies.  I’m using the Honeywell
Total Comfort Connect app, not the Honeywell Home app.  I didn’t realize
there was another app from Honeywell that would control the thermostats.
I’ll check it out.  Thanks for your detailed descriptions.

Todd


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:07 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Todd,
>
>
>
> When I open my Honeywell Home app I have a “Menu: button at the very top
> left.
>
> If I double tap on it and then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the
> screen it takes me all the way down to “Logout”, if I swipe back once to
> the left I’m on a link “About the app”, double tap on that and do another
> 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen and Voiceover jumps directly to
> the last item on the screen which is the version.
>
>
>
> My version is 4.2.0 (371)
>
>
>
> As for the current indoor temperature, when I first open the app and I
> have the menu button at the top left, I have an “Add new device” button as
> the last element on that screen and again a 4-finger single tap in the
> bottom half of the screen will take me there. Swiping back once to the left
> currently tells me “21.5 ring above inside”. Note that the “ring above” is
> a symbol and visually looks like the degrees symbol, but Voiceover in this
> instance speaks it as “ring above”.
>
> Here is a full description of the screen:
>
>
>
> Top line underneath the status bar: Menu button on the left, name of your
> home in the middle as a heading and “Weather Forecast” button at the top
> right
>
> Underneath this: “My Thermostat” on the left, double tapping on that will
> open a new screen”,, next in the middle “Temperature set to 16.0 degrees
> Celsius, double tap to increase button” and on the right “Set temperature
> is 16.0 degrees Celsius”
>
> Underneath that on the left: “21.5 ring above inside”, the current room
> temperature measured by the thermostat and I think again underneath that
> (have to ask somebody to actually describe it) is the Add new device button.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
>  *On Behalf Of *Todd W
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:26 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
>
>
> Looks like my app is up to date from the app store.  I can’t find a
> version number anywhere in the app itself to confirm, though and my inside
> temp still doesn’t speak.  Knowing that yours does is hopeful...maybe it’ll
> show up soon in mine.
>
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> As Todd said, you may need to run a completely new wire from your furnace
> to where the thermostat goes if your existing wire doesn’t have the power
> lead which a regular thermostat does not require. You won’t know until you
> take off the existing thermostat and check.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cris Ali
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:56 AM
>
>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Matching wiring colors is not a problem.  I have sighted friends who can
> be present to match the colors for me when I do the install, but other than
> matching the colors of the four wires, would there be any other challenges
> in the installation itself?  I understand that I may need sighted help
> connecting it to my network, which should not be a problem.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Bill Holton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:52 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> You will have to match wiring colors.  You will also need sighted help to
> connect the app, as I recall it displays an icon on the thermostat screen
> you have to match.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Cris Ali
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:49 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas
> Heating
>
>
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
> How easy is it to install this smart thermostat?  I am usually Okay with
> installing lights and such things, but I never installed thermostats.  Do I
> need an electrician to install it or you think I can do it myself?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Cris
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9

RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Todd,

When I open my Honeywell Home app I have a “Menu: button at the very top left.
If I double tap on it and then do a 4-finger tap near the bottom of the screen 
it takes me all the way down to “Logout”, if I swipe back once to the left I’m 
on a link “About the app”, double tap on that and do another 4-finger tap near 
the bottom of the screen and Voiceover jumps directly to the last item on the 
screen which is the version.

My version is 4.2.0 (371)

As for the current indoor temperature, when I first open the app and I have the 
menu button at the top left, I have an “Add new device” button as the last 
element on that screen and again a 4-finger single tap in the bottom half of 
the screen will take me there. Swiping back once to the left currently tells me 
“21.5 ring above inside”. Note that the “ring above” is a symbol and visually 
looks like the degrees symbol, but Voiceover in this instance speaks it as 
“ring above”.
Here is a full description of the screen:

Top line underneath the status bar: Menu button on the left, name of your home 
in the middle as a heading and “Weather Forecast” button at the top right
Underneath this: “My Thermostat” on the left, double tapping on that will open 
a new screen”,, next in the middle “Temperature set to 16.0 degrees Celsius, 
double tap to increase button” and on the right “Set temperature is 16.0 
degrees Celsius”
Underneath that on the left: “21.5 ring above inside”, the current room 
temperature measured by the thermostat and I think again underneath that (have 
to ask somebody to actually describe it) is the Add new device button.

Regards,
Sieghard

 On Behalf Of Todd W
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,

Looks like my app is up to date from the app store.  I can’t find a version 
number anywhere in the app itself to confirm, though and my inside temp still 
doesn’t speak.  Knowing that yours does is hopeful...maybe it’ll show up soon 
in mine.

Todd


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
As Todd said, you may need to run a completely new wire from your furnace to 
where the thermostat goes if your existing wire doesn’t have the power lead 
which a regular thermostat does not require. You won’t know until you take off 
the existing thermostat and check.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 11:56 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Bill,
Matching wiring colors is not a problem.  I have sighted friends who can be 
present to match the colors for me when I do the install, but other than 
matching the colors of the four wires, would there be any other challenges in 
the installation itself?  I understand that I may need sighted help connecting 
it to my network, which should not be a problem.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Bill 
Holton
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

You will have to match wiring colors.  You will also need sighted help to 
connect the app, as I recall it displays an icon on the thermostat screen you 
have to match.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

Hi Sieghard,
How easy is it to install this smart thermostat?  I am usually Okay with 
installing lights and such things, but I never installed thermostats.  Do I 
need an electrician to install it or you think I can do it myself?
Cheers,

Cris

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating

The Honeywell app works fine and is very accessible.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordan 
Radic
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: HoneyWell Smart Thermostats, was: Thermostat for Gas Heating


Hi, Sieghard!

Can you write a line or two about HoneyWell accessibility? I already found some 
HW products for European market, T6 is ind