Problem resolved - Here's how -RE: Touch Typing Problem

[Karen Poulakos]

Someone emailed me privately, and suggested I go to Settings, General, 
Keyboard, and then turn off Predictive Typing.  That did the trick!

 

While I was there I turned off a few additional items.

 

Karen P

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch Typing Problem

 

Hi Karen,

 

Try checking Settings / General / Accessibility / Voiceover / Typing

 

Make sure the first setting is set for Touch Typing.

 

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
PSA Folks: You can still get gas for under a dollar fifty at Taco Bell! 

- Original Message - 

From: Karen Poulakos <mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 1:38 PM

Subject: RE: Touch Typing Problem

 

Thanks.  Checked that.  Touch typing is on.  There must be something else I'm 
missing.

Karen

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave Clement
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Touch Typing Problem

Hi, 

This sounds as if you have the "slide to type" option turned on. Check:

Settings/General/Keyboards/Slide to type

And turn it off if it is on. 

HTH

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

or you have 

On Jun 19, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

?I recently had to reset my first generation SE phone.  When I type, my phone
seems to want to guess the words I am trying to type, as I run my finger
over the letters.  When I lift my finger, What is in the edit field, is not
what I intended to put there.  It's driving me crazy!  Is there a setting I
can change to get it to just type the letters I select as I lift my finger?
This phone is just getting a bit too smart for me.  I liked it much better
when it was not quite so smart! (smile)

Karen P


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Re: Touch Typing Problem

[Mike B.]

Hi Karen,

Try checking Settings / General / Accessibility / Voiceover / Typing

Make sure the first setting is set for Touch Typing.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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From: Karen Poulakos
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: Touch Typing Problem


Thanks.  Checked that.  Touch typing is on.  There must be something else 
I'm missing.

Karen

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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Touch Typing Problem

Hi,

This sounds as if you have the "slide to type" option turned on. Check:

Settings/General/Keyboards/Slide to type

And turn it off if it is on.

HTH

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

or you have

On Jun 19, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

?I recently had to reset my first generation SE phone.  When I type, my 
phone
seems to want to guess the words I am trying to type, as I run my finger
over the letters.  When I lift my finger, What is in the edit field, is not
what I intended to put there.  It's driving me crazy!  Is there a setting I
can change to get it to just type the letters I select as I lift my finger?
This phone is just getting a bit too smart for me.  I liked it much better
when it was not quite so smart! (smile)

Karen P


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RE: Touch Typing Problem

[Karen Poulakos]

Thanks.  Checked that.  Touch typing is on.  There must be something else I'm 
missing.

Karen

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Dave Clement
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Subject: Re: Touch Typing Problem

Hi, 

This sounds as if you have the "slide to type" option turned on. Check:

Settings/General/Keyboards/Slide to type

And turn it off if it is on. 

HTH

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

or you have 

On Jun 19, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

?I recently had to reset my first generation SE phone.  When I type, my phone
seems to want to guess the words I am trying to type, as I run my finger
over the letters.  When I lift my finger, What is in the edit field, is not
what I intended to put there.  It's driving me crazy!  Is there a setting I
can change to get it to just type the letters I select as I lift my finger?
This phone is just getting a bit too smart for me.  I liked it much better
when it was not quite so smart! (smile)

Karen P


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Re: Touch Typing Problem

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

This sounds as if you have the "slide to type" option turned on. Check:

Settings/General/Keyboards/Slide to type

And turn it off if it is on. 

HTH

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB

or you have 

On Jun 19, 2022, at 3:01 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I recently had to reset my first generation SE phone.  When I type, my phone
seems to want to guess the words I am trying to type, as I run my finger
over the letters.  When I lift my finger, What is in the edit field, is not
what I intended to put there.  It's driving me crazy!  Is there a setting I
can change to get it to just type the letters I select as I lift my finger?
This phone is just getting a bit too smart for me.  I liked it much better
when it was not quite so smart! (smile)

Karen P


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Touch Typing Problem

[Karen Poulakos]

I recently had to reset my first generation SE phone.  When I type, my phone
seems to want to guess the words I am trying to type, as I run my finger
over the letters.  When I lift my finger, What is in the edit field, is not
what I intended to put there.  It's driving me crazy!  Is there a setting I
can change to get it to just type the letters I select as I lift my finger?
This phone is just getting a bit too smart for me.  I liked it much better
when it was not quite so smart! (smile)

Karen P


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RE: weird thing in touch typing

[chaltain]

Is this a new phone? Sounds like you haven’t turned slide to type off yet. Go 
into Settings -> General -> Keyboard and toggle slide to type off.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 5:21 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: weird thing in touch typing

 

I am trying to search for an app in the app store.  I open the search field and 
as I am typing the name of the app and moving my finger around the keyboard it 
starts reading words and I can't figure out how to get back to the regular 
keyboard.  I looked all through the settings but can't seem to find the right 
place to stop this behavior.  Any ideas out there.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: weird thing in touch typing

[Richard Turner]

You want General, keyboard, and turn off predictive and Slide to type.
You are ending up with slide to type, which I personally feel is a pain in the 
behind, unless you are well practiced and like all that chatter.
I keep it turned off.




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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Dan  wrote:



I am trying to search for an app in the app store.  I open the search field and 
as I am typing the name of the app and moving my finger around the keyboard it 
starts reading words and I can't figure out how to get back to the regular 
keyboard.  I looked all through the settings but can't seem to find the right 
place to stop this behavior.  Any ideas out there.


Thanks.



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weird thing in touch typing

[Dan]

  
  
I am trying to search for an app in the app store.  I open
the search field and as I am typing the name of the app and
moving my finger around the keyboard it starts reading words and
I can't figure out how to get back to the regular keyboard.  I
looked all through the settings but can't seem to find the right
place to stop this behavior.  Any ideas out there.

  
Thanks.

  


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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Carolyn Arnold]

Would it ever make a world of difference. How I wish I could have had that - 
but managed over time with Hadley videos. I can't say enough about them. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 12:56 AM
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Subject: RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing

Because somebody suggested it. I think poor Josh is getting entirely too much 
well-meaning advice.
Too bad he doesn't have somebody around who could sit down with him for an hour 
or two because it would make a world of difference.
Joshua, if you have any way to get to an Apple Store make an appointment and 
get one of their people to show you some stuff.

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gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch 
typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[kitty hevener]

I still use that method.  Call me strange, but the touch typing mode seems 
counterintuitive.  I am used to typing where you push down on the key you 
want instead of lifting away from it.  In the standard typing mode, I often 
use "split tap"  When u find the key you want, keep your finger on it. 
Then, use another finger to tap once.  Somehow that method, especially in 
the beginning seemed to help me keep my orientation.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Bullis

Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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touch typing


You also have the option of flicking to the right and double tapping on the 
number you want, if the touch and lift method isn't perfected quite yet for 
you. The flick gesture is the most basic one, like tab and shift tab on the 
computer. Also, if you can, have someone help you load the Looktel Voiceover 
tutorial app so you can practice the various gestures.

Matthew


On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Dave  wrote:

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.


Dave.


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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Because somebody suggested it. I think poor Josh is getting entirely too much 
well-meaning advice.
Too bad he doesn't have somebody around who could sit down with him for an hour 
or two because it would make a world of difference.
Joshua, if you have any way to get to an Apple Store make an appointment and 
get one of their people to show you some stuff.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:32 PM
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touch typing

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

-- 
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Arlene]

Joshua, this is how  we type on the screen, which you could try and we find 
easier. This is Arlene and the way I've gotten use to typing on the screen, 
knowing how the letters are arranged, I slide one of my fingers to the 
letters, and on each letter that I need in a word, when I find that letter I 
need, while my finger is still on it, than I tap with my other
finger for it to be typed. In fact that second finger I typed the letter 
with, could be anywhere on the screen since I have the first finger on that 
letter, while I tap with the other finger. It's interesting how we learn 
some of our own ways of doing things, since we can't visually watch one 
another, and this I found out with Wayne and I talking. Now in talking to 
him, I realize when I get to that right letter I need, I could just tap on 
it with that same finger that I found it with. In the last almost year and a 
half since we've had our phones, Wayne has been a bit a head of me in both 
navigating the screen and swiping, which he's helped me with. Okay here's 
how Wayne types on the screen. Okay with knowing the layout of the letters, 
as he finds each letter he needs, he just lifts his finger just slightly and 
taps the letters. Josh, this is probably something you already know, but on 
the chance you don't, which could make a difference,  when it comes to 
typing in the edit box. To type in the edit box, double tap on the edit box, 
and it will most likely say

insertion at end
which is what you want it to say, to be ready to type.
but in case it says
insertion at start
tap on it wonce more and it should say insertion at end, and you'll be ready 
to type.
If you would like some help, including actually talking all this and doing 
it, we would be happy to do this on the phone with you.
Joshua, some of this seems confusing now, but you can do it with all the 
help here.  and as you find your own  way in navigating the screen, finding 
apps you find useful and ones you enjoy, before you know it you'll be 
recomending goodies to all of us as far as great apps, the way you managed 
something and more, and you'll be helping  many of us too. After almost a 
year and a half we're still learning, and this group is one of the most 
helpful groups ever.

Arlene and Wayne
- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:09 PM
Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing




Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

--
Joshua Hendrickson

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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Joshua, 
Just out of curiosity, why did you select to use the touch typing? 
Janet 


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typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Donna, 
Doesn't one have to have the typing feature added to the rotor? If so, did 
anyone tell Joshua how to do that?  
Janet 


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Hi

Have you tried using the rotor to change the typing mode?

Donna
> 
> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
> minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.
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RE: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[janet gross]

HI Joshua, 
I have to completely agree with what Dave is saying about the standard typing.  
Give it some thought.  
Janet 

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Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 5:30 PM
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touch typing

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to 
touch typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Matthew Bullis]

You also have the option of flicking to the right and double tapping on the 
number you want, if the touch and lift method isn't perfected quite yet for 
you. The flick gesture is the most basic one, like tab and shift tab on the 
computer. Also, if you can, have someone help you load the Looktel Voiceover 
tutorial app so you can practice the various gestures.
Matthew


On Jun 9, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Dave  wrote:

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double tap, 
before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use to the 
iPhone.

Dave.


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typing

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Dave]

I personally, would have stook to standard typing, as you have to double 
tap, before it will enter a character. This is what i did, until i got use 
to the iPhone.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
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touch typing


Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

With touch typing on, simply slide your finger over the numeric keypad and lift 
when the number you want is spoken. For example, if your passcode is 1234, 
slide your finger until you hear 1, then lift it and the 1 will be entered. 
Repeat this process for the other three numbers and you should be good to go.

Alan Lemly   

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
> minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Alan Lemly]

Joshua,

With touch typing on, you simply move your finger over the numeric keypad and 
don't lift your finger until you hear the number you want. So, if your passcode 
is 1234, slide your finger until you hear the 1 and then lift it off the 
screen. The 1 will be input and you repeat that process for the other three 
numbers.

Alan Lemly  

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
> the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
> my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
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Re: having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Donna]

Hi

Have you tried using the rotor to change the typing mode?

Donna
> 
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having trouble entering in my pass code now that I switched to touch typing

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi to all.  I changed my voice over typing to touch typing instead of
the default method.  Well, now I'm having loads of trouble entering in
my passcode correctly.  I keep disabling my iPhone for fifteen
minutes.  I'm afraid if I do this to much, I'll mess up my phone.

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Re: Touch-typing

[Nimer Jaber]

Touch typing is where you move your finger around the screen, lift, and the
letter is typed. Direct touch typing is instead of dragging your finger
around the screen, you just tap where you think the letter is, and it is
typed. You can explore the keyboard, but you then have to double-tap to
type the letter. Direct touch is faster, but is useful only if you ar every
accurate and precise with typing, or if you have some usable vision and are
using the iPhone with voiceover, but can see enough to type by looking.

Thanks.

On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 5:37 PM Terri Stimmel 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
> what is the difference between touch typing, and direct touch typing?
>
> Right now, I just use the standard way of typing. I like it. But I would
> like to explore more with the touch typing option. I think maybe when I
> text, this might be a bit faster.
>
> Who knows though?
>
>
> What do you all who use it, think of it?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Terri
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Touch-typing

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


what is the difference between touch typing, and direct touch typing?

Right now, I just use the standard way of typing. I like it. But I would 
like to explore more with the touch typing option. I think maybe when I 
text, this might be a bit faster.

Who knows though?


What do you all who use it, think of it?


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: [AppleSupportVI] Touch Typing Program for the Mac?

[John Panarese]

  Keystroke might be a third party app you can get from their website. I don't 
recall getting it from the Mac A[pp store.


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> On May 20, 2017, at 6:57 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot to say that the XType app is the one which is out of date and 
> will not work with the latest Sierra. The Keystroke does not appear in U.K. 
> App Store for mac. Any other such accessible Mac apps out there?
> Harry
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 04:11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> [applesupportvi]  <mailto:applesuppor...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>>At the moment, xType and Keystroke are the accessible ones I know of. I 
>> hear that APH is developing a version of Typing Tutor, but I am not sure if 
>> that is rumor or not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>> Director
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>>> <mailto:amy.s...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us> [applesupportvi] 
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>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
>>> 
>>> I was contacted by a colleague who wonders if there is a good auditory 
>>> touch typing program out there for the Mac…she has a student who needs some 
>>> instruction.  Any feedback would be appreciated J
>>> 
>>> Amy
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Amy Snow
>>> 
>>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>>> 
>>> 1700 W State Street
>>> 
>>> Janesville, WI 53546
>>> 
>>> 608 758 6100 ex 5359
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Re: [AppleSupportVI] Touch Typing Program for the Mac?

[Harry Bell]

Sorry, I forgot to say that the XType app is the one which is out of date and 
will not work with the latest Sierra. The Keystroke does not appear in U.K. App 
Store for mac. Any other such accessible Mac apps out there?
Harry

> On 19 May 2017, at 04:11, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com [applesupportvi] 
>  wrote:
> 
>At the moment, xType and Keystroke are the accessible ones I know of. I 
> hear that APH is developing a version of Typing Tutor, but I am not sure if 
> that is rumor or not.
> 
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 18, 2017, at 11:56 AM, 'Snow, Amy L. (TCH)' amy.s...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us 
>> [applesupportvi]  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good morning,
>> 
>> I was contacted by a colleague who wonders if there is a good auditory touch 
>> typing program out there for the Mac…she has a student who needs some 
>> instruction.  Any feedback would be appreciated J
>> 
>> Amy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Amy Snow
>> 
>> Teacher of the Visually Impaired
>> 
>> 1700 W State Street
>> 
>> Janesville, WI 53546
>> 
>> 608 758 6100 ex 5359
>> 
>> amy.s...@wcbvi.k12.wi.us
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[TaraPrakash]

Hi

Is there any podcasts on direct touch typing detailing extra keys u get in this 
mode?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 1:52 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
> almost like Fleksy.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile
> From Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco"  
> wrote:
> 
>> unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
>> translation of Touch Typing.
>> I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> And what is more easier?
>> Touch typing, or blind mode?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
>> enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
>> just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
>> letter is entered.
>> 
>> Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
>> So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kimmie parutu
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
>> that way.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Hi kimie,
>> 
>> I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kimmie parutu
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
>> go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
>> words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of rajmund
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
>> will be inserted.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:
>> 
>> What's the blind mode?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi liel,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
>> I'm trying it again right now.
>> 
>> Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?
>> 
>> 
>>

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Afik Sofir]

Hi,

Thanks so much to all.  I found my preefered meathod, touch typing. 

Again, thanks 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

 

Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
almost like Fleksy.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> 
>From Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com

 





On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:

unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.
 
Andy
 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.
 
Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Hi kimie,
 
I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.
 
Sent from a BrailleNote
 
- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:
 
What's the blind mode?
 
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
 
 
Hi liel,
 
 
 
I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.
 
Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?
 
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly
 
 
 
Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.
 
It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.
 
I hope that it help to you.
 
 
Sent from  my iphone
 
 
??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
 afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:
 
 
 
Hi,
 
 
 
I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.
 
I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.
 
Afik
 
 
 
 
 
?,
 
Regard

Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Devin Prater]

Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
almost like Fleksy.

Sent from Outlook Mobile
>From Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com




On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:










unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie,

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
 afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

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Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Andy Baracco]

unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.

I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.


Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie,

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund

Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.


Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com








On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu"
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



? ???   window-eyes

Support for window-eyes screen reader users





<http://www.highsight.co.il/> Highsight ? ?? ??
?

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Afik Sofir]

דםת ן ודק נךןמג אטפןמע צםגקת נואץץץ ךןאאךק בםצפךןבשאקגץ

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

 

That's right, apple translate it as bblind typing mode, but methe meant to 
touch typing.

Translate litel strange


Sent from  my iphone


‫ב-5 במרץ 2016, בשעה 20:04, ‏‏Afik Sofir ‏< <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> 
afik.so...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:

No. 
Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
you relase your finger, the letter is slected.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and 

Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון]

That's right, apple translate it as bblind typing mode, but methe meant to 
touch typing.
Translate litel strange

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-5 במרץ 2016, בשעה 20:04, ‏‏Afik Sofir ‏ כתב/ה:‬

> No. 
> Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
> you relase your finger, the letter is slected.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
> translation of Touch Typing.
> I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> Hi richard, 
> And what is more easier? 
> Touch typing, or blind mode?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
> enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
> slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
> letter is entered.
> 
> Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  
> So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kimmie parutu
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
> way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Hi kimie, 
> 
> I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kimmie parutu
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
> go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
> words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> rajmund
> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Hello,
> Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
> will be inserted.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Afik Sofir"  To:  Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> What is direct typing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> 
> 
> For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
> input I use tabletop mode.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
>  wrote:
> 
> What's the blind mode?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> 
> 
> Hi liel,
> 
> 
> 
> I've tried the "blind mode" and its lit

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Afik Sofir]

No. 
Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
you relase your finger, the letter is slected.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



? ???   window-eyes

Support for window-eyes s

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Richard Turner]

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



? ???   window-eyes

Support for window-eyes screen reader users





 <http://www.highsight.co.il/> Highsight ? ?? ?? 
?   HighSight assistive technology for blind and 
visually impaired



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RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Afik Sofir]

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





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Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


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Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





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RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

[Richard Turner]

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
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Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

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From: "Afik Sofir" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

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On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
 wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





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On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



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Re: Touch Typing

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Turning the phone landscape and using both thumbs works quite well.
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What is the best way to use touch typing on iOS and get better at it
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Re: Touch Typing

[Jennie Facer]

What I did was to open a new note, and then practice away. It took me just a 
little longer to learn touch typing, but now it is all I use. I sometimes use 
direct touch typing. 

Hope this helps,
Jenn and Kumi


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RE: problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check in Settings > General > Accessibility > Voiceover > Typing Feedback.

Here you can set what sort of feedback you want for software and hardware 
keyboards, I assume your software keyboard typing feedback is set to nothing, 
set it back to characters and you will hear the character both when you touch 
it and when you release it. 

 

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hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 and I 
would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or a bug. I am 
typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I have typed them. I will 
put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't say the letter it will say it 
when I am having my finger on it but not after I enter it. it also is not 
reading the letters back if I need to delete a letter. is any one having this 
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Re: problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Oh no! Let's hope it's not a general 4S bug with iOS 9.0.1! if so, 
I'll wait to update mine!


El 25/09/2015 06:13 p.m., Mich Verrier escribió:
hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 
and I would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or 
a bug. I am typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I 
have typed them. I will put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't 
say the letter it will say it when I am having my finger on it but not 
after I enter it. it also is not reading the letters back if I need to 
delete a letter. is any one having this problem? I am using a eye 
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problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Mich Verrier]

hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 and I 
would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or a bug. I am 
typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I have typed them. I will 
put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't say the letter it will say it 
when I am having my finger on it but not after I enter it. it also is not 
reading the letters back if I need to delete a letter. is any one having this 
problem? I am using a eye phone 4s. from Mich.

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My impressions about dleksy vs direct touch typing

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello everyone 

I tried again the latest update by dleksy and was not very impressed.  

Maybe it is getting a bit better but with not too much effort I am already 
typing pretty fast using direct touch typing 

I really think it is worth exploring and practicing a cot and gives great 
results. 

I am writing now almost as fast as with braille but make slightly more  more 
mistakes. I am seriously considering getting a speed dots screen protector. To 
make this way of inspiring text even more efficient.


I can honestly say hand on heart goodbye to dleksy 

Vest regards and I hope I have convinced some to give direct touch typing a 
try.  Ioana c



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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I said this morning that touch typing worked  for me. I was not
referring to direct touch typing. I don't use it but rather just touch
typing which does work fine.

On 3/10/15, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> Have no problem with direct touch typing on my iphone6+ using ios8.2
>
> Have you check your keyboard setting under accessibility?
>
>
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>> On 11 Mar 2015, at 9:49, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2.
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in
>>> the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter
>>> until you lift your finger.
>>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but
>>> what they become by it."
>>>  -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for
>>> > the return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS
>>> >> 8.2. I don't think so.
>>> >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same
>>> >> as standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>>> >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering
>>> >> text in an edit field, etc.
>>> >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens
>>> >> unless I double tap on a letter.
>>> >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>>> >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with
>>> >> 8.2, but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be
>>> >> writing to accessibil...@apple.com
>>> >>
>>> >> JMTCW,
>>> >> Richard
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it,
>>> >> but what they become by it."
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Joanne Chua]

Have no problem with direct touch typing on my iphone6+ using ios8.2

Have you check your keyboard setting under accessibility?



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> On 11 Mar 2015, at 9:49, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2. 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the 
>> letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until 
>> you lift your finger.
>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>> what they become by it." 
>>  -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
>> > return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. 
>> >> I don't think so.
>> >> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>> >> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>> >> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering 
>> >> text in an edit field, etc.
>> >> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless 
>> >> I double tap on a letter.
>> >> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>> >> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, 
>> >> but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing 
>> >> to accessibil...@apple.com
>> >> 
>> >> JMTCW,
>> >> Richard
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>> >> what they become by it." 
>> >> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,
I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2. 

Jenn and Kumi




On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:40 AM -0700, "Richard Turner"  
wrote:










The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the 
letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until you 
lift your finger.
The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
Richard



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> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
>> don't think so.
>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text 
>> in an edit field, etc.
>> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
>> double tap on a letter.
>> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but 
>> if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> JMTCW,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Richard Turner]

Interesting.
I even rebooted my 5S and Direct Touch Typing still does not work.
Odd that it works for some.
Time to report it to Apple I guess.
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> On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone. Direct touch typing works fine on my 5s. 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing 
>> does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on 
>> my iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in 
>>> the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter 
>>> until you lift your finger.
>>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>>> what they become by it." 
>>> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
>>>> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. 
>>>>> I don't think so.
>>>>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>>>>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. Direct touch typing works fine on my 5s. 


> On Mar 10, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing 
> does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on 
> my iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the 
>> letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until 
>> you lift your finger.
>> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
>> what they become by it." 
>> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
>>> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
>>>> don't think so.
>>>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>>>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>>>> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text 
>>>> in an edit field, etc.
>>>> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
>>>> double tap on a letter.
>>>> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>>>> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, 
>>>> but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing 
>>>> to accessibil...@apple.com
>>>> 
>>>> JMTCW,
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> what they become by it." 
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Richard! You are spot on: so in ios 8.2 on my iPhone 5s Touch Typing 
does work normally but Direct Touch Typing does not (though it does work on my 
iPad Air). I hadn't realised. Thanks. Harry

 

> On 10 Mar 2015, at 17:40, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the 
> letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until 
> you lift your finger.
> The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
> they become by it." 
> -- John Ruskin, 1819-:1900
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
>> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
>>> don't think so.
>>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>>> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text 
>>> in an edit field, etc.
>>> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
>>> double tap on a letter.
>>> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>>> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, 
>>> but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing 
>>> to accessibil...@apple.com
>>> 
>>> JMTCW,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Richard Turner]

The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in the 
letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter until you 
lift your finger.
The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
Richard



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> On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the 
> return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
>> don't think so.
>> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
>> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
>> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text 
>> in an edit field, etc.
>> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
>> double tap on a letter.
>> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
>> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but 
>> if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to 
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> 
>> JMTCW,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Harry Bell]

Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for the return 
key, which demands a double tap. Harry

 

> On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
> don't think so.
> I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
> standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
> I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text in 
> an edit field, etc.
> If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
> double tap on a letter.
> The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
> Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but 
> if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to 
> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> JMTCW,
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Direct Touch Typing, Not!

[Richard Turner]

OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
don't think so.
I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text in 
an edit field, etc.
If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
double tap on a letter.
The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but if 
I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to 
accessibil...@apple.com

JMTCW,
Richard



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Re: Help verify bug with direct touch-typing in notification replies

[Alex Hall]

I don't use direct touch, but I do use touch typing or braille. Sometimes 
things work fine, but most of the time, VoiceOver lags terribly when replying 
to texts from notifications. I don't know if the two bugs are related, or even 
facets of the same core problem.
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem with my iPhone 6 Plus. I just tried it with my 
> husband.
> Jen
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for getting back to me.I use iPhone 6 with latest iOS FOrgot to 
>> mention this before. Sorry.
>> Best,
>> Ioana 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have not tried it with the 6+, however, I did use it with the iPhone 5 
>>> and did experience that same problem. What iPhone are you using?
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have mailed apple accessibility about a bug but they could not 
>>>> reproduce. Could anyone confirm if they have this also please? 
>>>> 
>>>> When receiveing a message on locked screen swipe up to get to reply and 
>>>> double-tap. 
>>>> After landing in the edit field of the reply, try selecting direct 
>>>> touch-typing from the rotor. 
>>>> After doing this I can never get touch-typing to work. It acts like in 
>>>> standard type. 
>>>> I don't feel like doing a system restore for this, especially if others 
>>>> can reproduce this. 
>>>> Thanks for your feedback 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ioana
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Help verify bug with direct touch-typing in notification replies

[Jennie Facer]

I have the same problem with my iPhone 6 Plus. I just tried it with my husband.
Jen

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> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me.I use iPhone 6 with latest iOS FOrgot to 
> mention this before. Sorry.
> Best,
> Ioana 
> 
> 
> 
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>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not tried it with the 6+, however, I did use it with the iPhone 5 and 
>> did experience that same problem. What iPhone are you using?
>> Jen
>> 
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>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have mailed apple accessibility about a bug but they could not reproduce. 
>>> Could anyone confirm if they have this also please? 
>>> 
>>> When receiveing a message on locked screen swipe up to get to reply and 
>>> double-tap. 
>>> After landing in the edit field of the reply, try selecting direct 
>>> touch-typing from the rotor. 
>>> After doing this I can never get touch-typing to work. It acts like in 
>>> standard type. 
>>> I don't feel like doing a system restore for this, especially if others can 
>>> reproduce this. 
>>> Thanks for your feedback 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ioana
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Help verify bug with direct touch-typing in notification replies

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Thanks for getting back to me.I use iPhone 6 with latest iOS FOrgot to mention 
this before. Sorry.
Best,
Ioana 



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
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> I have not tried it with the 6+, however, I did use it with the iPhone 5 and 
> did experience that same problem. What iPhone are you using?
> Jen
> 
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>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> 
>> I have mailed apple accessibility about a bug but they could not reproduce. 
>> Could anyone confirm if they have this also please? 
>> 
>> When receiveing a message on locked screen swipe up to get to reply and 
>> double-tap. 
>> After landing in the edit field of the reply, try selecting direct 
>> touch-typing from the rotor. 
>> After doing this I can never get touch-typing to work. It acts like in 
>> standard type. 
>> I don't feel like doing a system restore for this, especially if others can 
>> reproduce this. 
>> Thanks for your feedback 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
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Re: Help verify bug with direct touch-typing in notification replies

[Jennie Facer]

I have not tried it with the 6+, however, I did use it with the iPhone 5 and 
did experience that same problem. What iPhone are you using?
Jen

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> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> I have mailed apple accessibility about a bug but they could not reproduce. 
> Could anyone confirm if they have this also please? 
> 
> When receiveing a message on locked screen swipe up to get to reply and 
> double-tap. 
> After landing in the edit field of the reply, try selecting direct 
> touch-typing from the rotor. 
> After doing this I can never get touch-typing to work. It acts like in 
> standard type. 
> I don't feel like doing a system restore for this, especially if others can 
> reproduce this. 
> Thanks for your feedback 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> 
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Help verify bug with direct touch-typing in notification replies

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hello all,


I have mailed apple accessibility about a bug but they could not reproduce. 
Could anyone confirm if they have this also please? 

When receiveing a message on locked screen swipe up to get to reply and 
double-tap. 
After landing in the edit field of the reply, try selecting direct touch-typing 
from the rotor. 
After doing this I can never get touch-typing to work. It acts like in standard 
type. 
I don't feel like doing a system restore for this, especially if others can 
reproduce this. 
Thanks for your feedback 

Best,


Ioana





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direct touch typing bug in notification reply?

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Did anyone notice that direct touch typing does not work within message reply 
from notification? 

On my iphone 5 it acts as standard typing would.
Do you also see this? 
Will be writing to Apple accessibility.

Best,

Ioana




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Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

on the direct touch typing it also appears that you can move your finger 
around the screen and it speaks everything that is on your screen when u 
move your finger around it will speak what your finger is over

simular to what android explore by touch does.
just something I observed


On 11/27/2014 9:49 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Also with touch typing, even if you land right on top of the character 
you want to enter, you still need to wait a beat before the character 
is entered. This is so if you land on the wrong character you have a 
chance to move around and find the right character before lifting your 
finger. With touch typing, try just touching a character very quickly 
and lifting your finger. You'll see that it wasn't entered. This is to 
prevent erroneous characters from being typed.


With direct touch typing there is no pause. Just touch a character on 
the virtual keyboard as quickly as you can, and you'll see that it's 
entered immediately.


On 11/27/2014 09:58 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi Mike, direct touch typing is actually a pretty good description of
how the feature works. Rather than dragging your finger around the
screen and lifting your finger when you find the character you were
looking for, direct touch typing is designed for you to tap the
character exactly. It requires good muscle memory, but particularly on
an iPhone 6 Plus or an iPad, you can get speeds comparable to regular
touch typing on a PC or Mac with it if you practice enough and make good
use of auto-correct.
Jonathan Mosen
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work fine, only issue I have found so far is that the caller id does
not always speak. Anyway, wondering what the difference is between
touch typing and direct touch typing. The direct touch typing option
is new with IOS 8

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Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

[Christopher Chaltain]

Also with touch typing, even if you land right on top of the character 
you want to enter, you still need to wait a beat before the character is 
entered. This is so if you land on the wrong character you have a chance 
to move around and find the right character before lifting your finger. 
With touch typing, try just touching a character very quickly and 
lifting your finger. You'll see that it wasn't entered. This is to 
prevent erroneous characters from being typed.


With direct touch typing there is no pause. Just touch a character on 
the virtual keyboard as quickly as you can, and you'll see that it's 
entered immediately.


On 11/27/2014 09:58 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:

Hi Mike, direct touch typing is actually a pretty good description of
how the feature works. Rather than dragging your finger around the
screen and lifting your finger when you find the character you were
looking for, direct touch typing is designed for you to tap the
character exactly. It requires good muscle memory, but particularly on
an iPhone 6 Plus or an iPad, you can get speeds comparable to regular
touch typing on a PC or Mac with it if you practice enough and make good
use of auto-correct.
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Mosen Consulting
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Hey everyone. I finally did upgrade to IOS 8.1.1, so far it seems to
work fine, only issue I have found so far is that the caller id does
not always speak. Anyway, wondering what the difference is between
touch typing and direct touch typing. The direct touch typing option
is new with IOS 8

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Re: difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

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Hi Mike, direct touch typing is actually a pretty good description of how the 
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your finger when you find the character you were looking for, direct touch 
typing is designed for you to tap the character exactly. It requires good 
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practice enough and make good use of auto-correct.
Jonathan Mosen
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> direct touch typing. The direct touch typing option is new with IOS 8
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difference between touch typing and direct touch typing

[Mike Arrigo]

Hey everyone. I finally did upgrade to IOS 8.1.1, so far it seems to work fine, 
only issue I have found so far is that the caller id does not always speak. 
Anyway, wondering what the difference is between touch typing and direct touch 
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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Sieghard,

It's definitely a preference iisue. Tapping feels more like typing to me than 
lifting. Also, I just can't seem to get the muscle memry of Fleksy, or it may 
just be that I don't like a lot of audio distraction while I'm typing. The 
autotext drives me mad. :) I usually proofread after I enter a big block of 
text.

I guess it goes into the category of "to each one's own." :)

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Teresa,
>  
> If you slide and verify the character, then lift and tap to type I t, then 
> why not use regular touch typing which would type the character as soon as 
> you lift the finger and it will not require you to lift and tap again. Just a 
> thought, everybody has different preferences. I really understood the 
> benefits of direct touch typing in combination with auto correct for the 
> first time when I listened to this Podcast and whenever I have time I’ll 
> practice and play around with that. At this point I am still faster using the 
> regular touch typing, but I can really see how the other way could work well 
> with lots of practice and of course even better on an iPad in landscape mode 
> where you could probably really type just as on a keyboard with pretty good 
> results. I’ll have to try this at Christmas time on my Mom’s iPad. I could 
> also see where a tactile screen protector may help with direct touch typing 
> so I probably order one again for my 5S and give it a shot.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>  
> Don't forget that you can slide your finger to find the correct character 
> before you type. I somehow find direct touch typing easier, as it feels more 
> natural to tap once, rather than lifting or double-tapping. I am often very 
> close to the correct character but rarely right on it. Still, I find it more 
> satisfying to type this way, even verifying the character before I tap.
>  
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
> 
> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have 
> auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not 
> worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe 
> the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to 
> do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar 
> the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good 
> in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one 
> letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the 
> Podcaster shows how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I 
> always thought this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and 
> lots of practice I think some people will be really good with this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardit really at least 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
> a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
> in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
> get a bit better at it.
> 
> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
> 
> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>  
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>  
> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>  
> Teresa
>  
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>  
>  
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli  <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
>T

RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Jennie Facer]

Keep on typing the word you want.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

So what do you do when you hear a word that isn't correct?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 
To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!


Settings general accessibility speech speak autotext turn that on.
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:39, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>
> How do I get auto correct to start speaking words? It won't do it on my 
> phone or iPad mini 2.
>
> Jenn
>
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Trying direct touch typing!
>
> Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, 
> if it doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set 
> to Words it will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Jennie Facer
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that 
> podcast, and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying 
> to get him to accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I 
> have auto correct on like he did.
>
> Jenn
>
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
>>
>> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the 
>> letter when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. 
>> If you have auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as 
>> with Fleksy not worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter 
>> you wanted or maybe the one right next to it because auto correct will do 
>> what it is supposed to do and auto correct what you are typing and as 
>> soon as you press the spacebar the correct word will usually be written. 
>> But you still have to be very good in terms of hitting the letter you 
>> want most of the time or maybe be just one letter off. There is an 
>> excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows how this 
>> works and while I realized basically how it works, I always thought this 
>> was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice 
>> I think some people will be really good with this.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghardit really at least
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>>
>> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It
>> requires a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located,
>> and at least in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at
>> least until I get a bit better at it.
>>
>>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>>>
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>>>
>>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>>>
>>> Teresa
>>>
>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
>>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli >> <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>>>
>>>   Jose Lomeli
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>   --
>>>   The following information is impor

RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Teresa,

 

If you slide and verify the character, then lift and tap to type I t, then why 
not use regular touch typing which would type the character as soon as you lift 
the finger and it will not require you to lift and tap again. Just a thought, 
everybody has different preferences. I really understood the benefits of direct 
touch typing in combination with auto correct for the first time when I 
listened to this Podcast and whenever I have time I’ll practice and play around 
with that. At this point I am still faster using the regular touch typing, but 
I can really see how the other way could work well with lots of practice and of 
course even better on an iPad in landscape mode where you could probably really 
type just as on a keyboard with pretty good results. I’ll have to try this at 
Christmas time on my Mom’s iPad. I could also see where a tactile screen 
protector may help with direct touch typing so I probably order one again for 
my 5S and give it a shot.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

 

Don't forget that you can slide your finger to find the correct character 
before you type. I somehow find direct touch typing easier, as it feels more 
natural to tap once, rather than lifting or double-tapping. I am often very 
close to the correct character but rarely right on it. Still, I find it more 
satisfying to type this way, even verifying the character before I tap.

 

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks


On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi Claudia and Christopher,

As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter when 
you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have auto 
correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not worry too 
much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe the one right 
next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to do and auto 
correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar the correct 
word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good in terms of 
hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one letter off. 
There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows 
how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I always thought 
this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice 
I think some people will be really good with this. 

Regards,
Sieghardit really at least 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
get a bit better at it.

On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:



How do you use Direct Touch Typing?

 

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On

Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran

*Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM

*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

*Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!

 

Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)

 

Teresa

 

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing

with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

 

 

On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com> 

<mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 

   This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!

 

   Jose Lomeli

   Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[carol.pearso...@googlemail.com]

So what do you do when you hear a word that isn't correct?

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!


Settings general accessibility speech speak autotext turn that on.

On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:39, Jennie Facer  wrote:

How do I get auto correct to start speaking words? It won't do it on my 
phone or iPad mini 2.


Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying direct touch typing!

Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, 
if it doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set 
to Words it will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jennie Facer

Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Hi all,

I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that 
podcast, and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying 
to get him to accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I 
have auto correct on like he did.


Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Claudia and Christopher,

As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the 
letter when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. 
If you have auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as 
with Fleksy not worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter 
you wanted or maybe the one right next to it because auto correct will do 
what it is supposed to do and auto correct what you are typing and as 
soon as you press the spacebar the correct word will usually be written. 
But you still have to be very good in terms of hitting the letter you 
want most of the time or maybe be just one letter off. There is an 
excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows how this 
works and while I realized basically how it works, I always thought this 
was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice 
I think some people will be really good with this.


Regards,
Sieghardit really at least

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It
requires a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located,
and at least in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at
least until I get a bit better at it.


On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
How do you use Direct Touch Typing?

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
*Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!

  Jose Lomeli
  Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[Teresa Cochran]

Don't forget that you can slide your finger to find the correct character 
before you type. I somehow find direct touch typing easier, as it feels more 
natural to tap once, rather than lifting or double-tapping. I am often very 
close to the correct character but rarely right on it. Still, I find it more 
satisfying to type this way, even verifying the character before I tap.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
> 
> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have 
> auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not 
> worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe 
> the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to 
> do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar 
> the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good 
> in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one 
> letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the 
> Podcaster shows how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I 
> always thought this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and 
> lots of practice I think some people will be really good with this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardit really at least 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
> a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
> in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
> get a bit better at it.
> 
>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli > <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>> 
>>Jose Lomeli
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Jennie Facer]

I promise I won't do this very often, but I really appreciate that Chris. I 
couldn't figure it out.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:41 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Settings general accessibility speech speak autotext turn that on.
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:39, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> How do I get auto correct to start speaking words? It won't do it on my phone 
> or iPad mini 2.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, if 
> it doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set to 
> Words it will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jennie Facer
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that podcast, 
> and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying to get him 
> to accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I have auto 
> correct on like he did.
> 
> Jenn
> 
>   TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
> ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
>> 
>> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
>> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you 
>> have auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy 
>> not worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or 
>> maybe the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is 
>> supposed to do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press 
>> the spacebar the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to 
>> be very good in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or 
>> maybe be just one letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on 
>> www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows how this works and while I 
>> realized basically how it works, I always thought this was not for most 
>> blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice I think some people 
>> will be really good with this. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghardit really at least
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It 
>> requires a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, 
>> and at least in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at 
>> least until I get a bit better at it.
>> 
>>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>> *On Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>>> 
>>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
>>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli >> <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>>> 
>>>   Jose Lomeli
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[christopher hallsworth]

Settings general accessibility speech speak autotext turn that on.
> On 4 Nov 2014, at 19:39, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> How do I get auto correct to start speaking words? It won't do it on my phone 
> or iPad mini 2.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, if 
> it doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set to 
> Words it will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that podcast, 
> and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying to get him 
> to accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I have auto 
> correct on like he did.
> 
> Jenn
> 
>   TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
> ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
>> 
>> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
>> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you 
>> have auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy 
>> not worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or 
>> maybe the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is 
>> supposed to do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press 
>> the spacebar the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to 
>> be very good in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or 
>> maybe be just one letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on 
>> www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows how this works and while I 
>> realized basically how it works, I always thought this was not for most 
>> blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice I think some people 
>> will be really good with this. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghardit really at least
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It 
>> requires a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, 
>> and at least in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at 
>> least until I get a bit better at it.
>> 
>>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>>> 
>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>>> 
>>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
>>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli >> <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>>> 
>>>   Jose Lomeli
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Jennie Facer]

How do I get auto correct to start speaking words? It won't do it on my phone 
or iPad mini 2.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Trying direct touch typing!

Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, if it 
doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set to Words it 
will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Hi all,

I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that podcast, 
and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying to get him to 
accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I have auto correct 
on like he did.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
ARE THE WORLD!

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
> 
> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have 
> auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not 
> worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe 
> the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to 
> do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar 
> the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good 
> in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one 
> letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the 
> Podcaster shows how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I 
> always thought this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and 
> lots of practice I think some people will be really good with this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardit really at least
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It 
> requires a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, 
> and at least in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at 
> least until I get a bit better at it.
> 
>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and 
>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli > <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>> 
>>Jose Lomeli
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just tap the spacebar as soon as auto correct speaks the correct word or, if it 
doesn't, tap the spacebar anyways and if your keyboard echo is set to Words it 
will speak the word and you'll know if it's correct.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Hi all,

I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that podcast, 
and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying to get him to 
accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I have auto correct 
on like he did.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
ARE THE WORLD!

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
> 
> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have 
> auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not 
> worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe 
> the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to 
> do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar 
> the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good 
> in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one 
> letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the 
> Podcaster shows how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I 
> always thought this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and 
> lots of practice I think some people will be really good with this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardit really at least 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
> a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
> in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
> get a bit better at it.
> 
>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli > <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>> 
>>Jose Lomeli
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

I am trying this direct touch typing out myself. I listened to that podcast, 
and his phone talks as he is typing. Thee auto correct is trying to get him to 
accept the word it wants. How do I get it do that for me? I have auto correct 
on like he did.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU 
ARE THE WORLD!

> On Nov 4, 2014, at 8:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Claudia and Christopher,
> 
> As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter 
> when you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have 
> auto correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not 
> worry too much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe 
> the one right next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to 
> do and auto correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar 
> the correct word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good 
> in terms of hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one 
> letter off. There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the 
> Podcaster shows how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I 
> always thought this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and 
> lots of practice I think some people will be really good with this. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardit really at least 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!
> 
> Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
> a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
> in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
> get a bit better at it.
> 
>> On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
>> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>> 
>> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli > <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>> 
>>Jose Lomeli
>>Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Claudia and Christopher,

As Christopher pointed out, direct touch typing works by typing the letter when 
you tap it not when you lift your finger as in touch typing. If you have auto 
correct turned on, you can, however, type and just as with Fleksy not worry too 
much whether you totally hit the exact letter you wanted or maybe the one right 
next to it because auto correct will do what it is supposed to do and auto 
correct what you are typing and as soon as you press the spacebar the correct 
word will usually be written. But you still have to be very good in terms of 
hitting the letter you want most of the time or maybe be just one letter off. 
There is an excellent Podcast on www.appleviss.com where the Podcaster shows 
how this works and while I realized basically how it works, I always thought 
this was not for most blind people, but with auto correct and lots of practice 
I think some people will be really good with this. 

Regards,
Sieghardit really at least 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
get a bit better at it.

On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:
> How do you use Direct Touch Typing?
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!
>
> Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)
>
> Teresa
>
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli  <mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!
>
> Jose Lomeli
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: Trying direct touch typing!

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just single tap the screen on the letter you want to enter. It requires 
a pretty good knowledge of where each character is located, and at least 
in my case, a pretty extensive use of the delete key, at least until I 
get a bit better at it.


On 11/04/2014 04:13 AM, Claudia wrote:

How do you use Direct Touch Typing?

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Teresa Cochran
*Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 2:19 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Trying direct touch typing!

Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks


On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli mailto:jose.lome...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Trying direct touch typing!

[Claudia]

How do you use Direct Touch Typing?

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Trying direct touch typing!

 

Very nice. I'd say you're getting the hang of it. :)

 

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On Sep 21, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Jose Lomeli  wrote:

This is a test. I am trying direct touch typing on my iPhone!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[Teresa Cochran]

I know that with with direct touch typing, I can't enter my passcode except 
using the standard typing method. I have an iPod Touch 5G, so haven't tested 
the keypad for dialing phone numbers. I also haven't experimented with Touch 
typing for entering passcode, but it has worked in the past.

This could be a bug.

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> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:36 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Direct Touch Typing currently does not work everywhere, The numeric keypad 
> might be one area.
> 
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:31, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on 
>> for text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I 
>> miss some setting that says set as default? 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Sherry Wells
>>  
>>  
>> From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?
>>  
>> You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on 
>> the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
>> Jen
>> 
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
>>> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or 
>>> split tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the 
>>> numeric keypad?
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sherry Wells
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[christopher hallsworth]

Yeah, I know, I'm just pointing this out in case there was any confusion over 
the matter.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 25 Sep 2014, at 20:03, Alan Lemly  wrote:

> I believe sherri is talking about the regular touch typing which has been 
> with us for several versions not direct touch typing which just came in with 
> iOS 8. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 1:36 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
>> Direct Touch Typing currently does not work everywhere, The numeric keypad 
>> might be one area.
>> 
>> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:31, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on 
>>> for text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I 
>>> miss some setting that says set as default? 
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sherry Wells
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?
>>>  
>>> You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it 
>>> on the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  
>>>> When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
>>>> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or 
>>>> split tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the 
>>>> numeric keypad?
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sherry Wells
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[Alan Lemly]

I believe sherri is talking about the regular touch typing which has been with 
us for several versions not direct touch typing which just came in with iOS 8. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2014, at 1:36 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Direct Touch Typing currently does not work everywhere, The numeric keypad 
> might be one area.
> 
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:31, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on 
>> for text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I 
>> miss some setting that says set as default? 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Sherry Wells
>>  
>>  
>> From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?
>>  
>> You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on 
>> the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
>> Jen
>> 
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
>>> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or 
>>> split tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the 
>>> numeric keypad?
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sherry Wells
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[christopher hallsworth]

Direct Touch Typing currently does not work everywhere, The numeric keypad 
might be one area.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 25 Sep 2014, at 17:31, Sherry Wells  wrote:

> I'm fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on for 
> text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I miss 
> some setting that says set as default? 
>  
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
>  
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?
>  
> You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on 
> the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
> Jen
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
>> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or split 
>> tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the numeric 
>> keypad?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Sherry Wells
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Are you talking about when making a call? Mine uses touch typing there
as well. I didn't make any changes except turn on touch typing.

On 9/25/14, Sherry Wells  wrote:
> I'm fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on
> for text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I
> miss some setting that says set as default?
>
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
>
>
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?
>
> You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on
> the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
> Jen
>
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMENE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells 
> wrote:
>
>
>   Hi all,
>
>   When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated
> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or split
> tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the numeric
> keypad?
>
>   Thanks,
>   Sherry Wells
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[Sherry Wells]

I’m fine using touch typing everywhere.  I currently have touch typing on for 
text entry.  It is not working for the numeric keypad though.  Did I miss some 
setting that says set as default?  

Thanks,
Sherry Wells


From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on 
the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
Jen

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On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:


  Hi all,

  When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or split 
tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the numeric 
keypad?

  Thanks,
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Re: Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[Jennie Facer]

You have to use touch typing on the whole thing if you're going to use it on 
the keypad. There's no way to set it for the keypad only.
Jen

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> On Sep 25, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Sherry Wells  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated 
> system, I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or split 
> tapping the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the numeric 
> keypad?
>  
> Thanks,
> Sherry Wells
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Any Way to Use Touch Typing on Numeric Keypad?

[Sherry Wells]

Hi all,

When on a call and needing to touch numbers to go through an automated system, 
I would find it much easier to use touch typing than double or split tapping 
the numbers.  Is there any way to set touch typing on the numeric keypad?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

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Re: Direct touch typing

[RobH.]

Time will tell, some are getting good at it.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Cleveland" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:29 PM
Subject: RE: Direct touch typing


Who came up with this direct touch typing idea?  It seems half baked to me.
I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8 launch.  It
reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the last minute to
IOS 7.  I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting input method on a
regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with the direct touch
typing as well.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing



No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just tap
directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and precise
movements on the touch screen.


Sent from my Macbook Pro



On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers  wrote:





Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With
touch typing,



you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place."


I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around to
look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way all I
have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With direct touch
typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step. When I get to a
character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now have to bring it
down and tap again.

I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and others
are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over where you
think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can slide if you
miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to simply use it
like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower your finger seems
more trouble than it is worth to me.

Neal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the
difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a
letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from
accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger
around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is
entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be faster
if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and can land
on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For my part, I'm
getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I practice direct touch
typing.

On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:



I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my
finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct
touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing,
you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It
sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I
think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing
more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if
that makes sense.

Teresa

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seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:




At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either.
When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to
enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the
edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character
I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I
guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the
descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me.

On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:



Touch typing is where you can slide your finger to a letter then
lift it before it will be inserted in a text field. Direct Touch
Typing involves directly tapping on the letter which will be
immediately inserted into a text field. I don't understand the confusion
here?

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 21 Sep 2014, at 18:36, Pablo Morales mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com> <mailto:pablomorale...@gmail.com>>
wrote:




But it sound like the old touch typing style, doesn't it?
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I tried it out, and I understand now! Thank you all for the great explanations!

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse all mistakes 

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing
> on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and
> that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no
> split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is
> inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is
> inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it
> requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature
> which is more useful on a larger device.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sharonda Greenlaw
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
> 
> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
> from standard typing?
> 
> Sharonda
> 
>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Now I don't understand anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>> 
>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
> including
>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little
>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
>> something
>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Teresa Cochran]

You make an excellent point, Cheryl. I'll try this method and see if I can gain 
some more accuracy. I ended up typing the weirdest things in fleksy, but yes, I 
absolutely understand that lots of people can use it effectively, and I have no 
criticisms of it  at all.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> But the difference is that if you guess wrong, if you hear the letter and 
> have quick reflexes, you don't lift your finger and can then just lift up 
> normally and try again. But yes, I think it does take a very good feel for 
> where things are on the keyboard. I never did do well with fleksy myself, but 
> I know it has been helpful for a lot of people.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> This is the problem I had with Fleksy. Though I'm a touch typist on a 
>> standard keyboard, it's extremely difficult for me to guess exactly where 
>> the virtual keys are, because I have poor spatial memory. I can get within a 
>> character most of the time. For myself, I do estimate the general area with 
>> direct touch typing, then slide my finger a character or so to make sure I'm 
>> going to tap the correct key. Then I lift quickly and tap gkly where that 
>> key is. Oddly enough, this is faster and more accurate for me than touch 
>> typing, because with touch typing, I'm slow enough that I get hung up in the 
>> alternate characters mode a fair amount of the time and have to delete a 
>> character I've accidentally typed in. So no, I don't think I'll ever get to 
>> the point where I can strike the right key the first time. I'd bet, though 
>> that with a tactile screen protector, this task would be made much easier, 
>> as Jonathan has pointed out before.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing 
>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. 
>>> Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it 
>>> keeps coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can.
>>> 
>>> The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a 
>>> quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the 
>>> letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you 
>>> don't get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative 
>>> characters coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull 
>>> away quickly the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go 
>>> into an edit field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover 
>>> settings. Don't worry about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a 
>>> finger and pull away as if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or 
>>> covered by Arctic ice or as if sharp little needles or thorns had been 
>>> implanted and you didn't want to get pricked (maybe a bit of an 
>>> exaggeration). When you touch lightly and pull away quickly, the letter 
>>> will be written. To do this accurately, I think you would have to have 
>>> developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and responsive finger 
>>> muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing on a keyboard; 
>>> without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do usually pull 
>>> away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know how to 
>>> explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to 
>>> hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger 
>>> lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger 
>>> memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometim

Re: Direct touch typing

[Cheryl Homiak]

But the difference is that if you guess wrong, if you hear the letter and have 
quick reflexes, you don't lift your finger and can then just lift up normally 
and try again. But yes, I think it does take a very good feel for where things 
are on the keyboard. I never did do well with fleksy myself, but I know it has 
been helpful for a lot of people.



-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 22, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> This is the problem I had with Fleksy. Though I'm a touch typist on a 
> standard keyboard, it's extremely difficult for me to guess exactly where the 
> virtual keys are, because I have poor spatial memory. I can get within a 
> character most of the time. For myself, I do estimate the general area with 
> direct touch typing, then slide my finger a character or so to make sure I'm 
> going to tap the correct key. Then I lift quickly and tap gkly where that key 
> is. Oddly enough, this is faster and more accurate for me than touch typing, 
> because with touch typing, I'm slow enough that I get hung up in the 
> alternate characters mode a fair amount of the time and have to delete a 
> character I've accidentally typed in. So no, I don't think I'll ever get to 
> the point where I can strike the right key the first time. I'd bet, though 
> that with a tactile screen protector, this task would be made much easier, as 
> Jonathan has pointed out before.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. 
>> Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it 
>> keeps coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can.
>> 
>> The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a 
>> quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the 
>> letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you 
>> don't get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative 
>> characters coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull 
>> away quickly the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into 
>> an edit field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. 
>> Don't worry about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and 
>> pull away as if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by 
>> Arctic ice or as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and 
>> you didn't want to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you 
>> touch lightly and pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this 
>> accurately, I think you would have to have developed a pretty good 
>> finger/ear coordination and responsive finger muscles but to some extent we 
>> do something similar typing on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type 
>> well and rapidly really do usually pull away pretty quickly from each key 
>> when we press it. I don't know how to explain it any better. Maybe to get 
>> the feel, pretend you are going to hopscotch or skip with your finger and 
>> that you are out if your finger lingers on the ground. Even for those who 
>> don't have that accuracy/finger memory of the keyboard, you can still use 
>> this kind of typing sometimes just to feel all over the screen without 
>> anything happening. Then switch for a while to a light tap/touch and quick 
>> release at various places. Jonathan explains it pretty well in his book but 
>> i wish I could give you a mental feel for the kind of tactile 
>> touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a split tap can't be employed 
>> with this typing choice but it appears to me that what this is really meant 
>> to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard with one finger, a light 
>> touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good at it yet but I think the 
>> progress i've made so far is promising enough for me to continue to work on 
>> it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really going to get it across to 
>>

Re: Direct touch typing

[Teresa Cochran]

This is the problem I had with Fleksy. Though I'm a touch typist on a standard 
keyboard, it's extremely difficult for me to guess exactly where the virtual 
keys are, because I have poor spatial memory. I can get within a character most 
of the time. For myself, I do estimate the general area with direct touch 
typing, then slide my finger a character or so to make sure I'm going to tap 
the correct key. Then I lift quickly and tap gkly where that key is. Oddly 
enough, this is faster and more accurate for me than touch typing, because with 
touch typing, I'm slow enough that I get hung up in the alternate characters 
mode a fair amount of the time and have to delete a character I've accidentally 
typed in. So no, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where I can strike 
the right key the first time. I'd bet, though that with a tactile screen 
protector, this task would be made much easier, as Jonathan has pointed out 
before.

Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. 
> Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps 
> coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can.
> 
> The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a 
> quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the 
> letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't 
> get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters 
> coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly 
> the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit 
> field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry 
> about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as 
> if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or 
> as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want 
> to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and 
> pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think 
> you would have to have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and 
> responsive finger muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing 
> on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do 
> usually pull away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know 
> how to explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to 
> hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger 
> lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger 
> memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes just 
> to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch for a 
> while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. Jonathan 
> explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a mental feel 
> for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a 
> split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it appears to me that 
> what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard 
> with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good 
> at it yet but I think the progress i've made so far is promising enough for 
> me to continue to work on it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really 
> going to get it across to everybody the way I would like to communicate it 
> because it really is neat in my opinion!
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
>> 
>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
>> from standard typing?
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> 
>>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>>> Oh my gosh.
>>> Now I don't understand anything.
>>> 
>

Re: Direct touch typing

[Joanne Chua]

Sounds like i will love this direct typing to bits. Can't wait to try
it out, eventually.

On 23/09/2014, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> One more comment on this to try to compare the three kinds of typing.
> Standard typing is careful, methodical: you find your letter and double-tap
> it.
> Touch typing makes the letters stick to your finger; you can slide around
> but when you liftup, that character comes right along with your finger.
> In direct touch typing, you have freedom to explore much like you do in
> standard typing; you can slide aaround and explore and when you lift off,
> unless it's an immediate, quick movement nothing is typed. But it also gives
> the quickness of touch typing as you touch quickly and pull away and the key
> is typed. But characters don't stick to your finger; pulling away does
> nothing unless it's a quick, purposeful motion.
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>
>> You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that.
>> Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it
>> keeps coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you
>> can.
>>
>> The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a
>> quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the
>> letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you
>> don't get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative
>> characters coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull
>> away quickly the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go
>> into an edit field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover
>> settings. Don't worry about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a
>> finger and pull away as if you had discovered your phone was burning hot
>> or covered by Arctic ice or as if sharp little needles or thorns had been
>> implanted and you didn't want to get pricked (maybe a bit of an
>> exaggeration). When you touch lightly and pull away quickly, the letter
>> will be written. To do this accurately, I think you would have to have
>> developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and responsive finger
>> muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing on a keyboard;
>> without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do usually pull
>> away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know how to
>> explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to
>> hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger
>> lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger
>> memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes
>> just to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch
>> for a while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places.
>> Jonathan explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a
>> mental feel for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It
>> isn't that a split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it
>> appears to me that what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to
>> fly around the keyboard with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to
>> another letter. I'm not good at it yet but I think the progress i've made
>> so far is promising enough for me to continue to work on it. I really am
>> sorry that this still isn't really going to get it across to everybody the
>> way I would like to communicate it because it really is neat in my
>> opinion!
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfuln

Re: Direct touch typing

[Terje Strømberg]

I do not, but one way to do it, may be as follow: Slide your finger to q and a. 
Only these two letters in notes for example. Over and Over again 10 times 
about. Then try to directly hit first q and then a like one tap with the 
finger. One finger tap on letter q and a may be direct touch typing. When you 
have learned these two letters, you find two or more or less letters as you 
like.

Take care 

23. sep. 2014 kl. 05:06 skrev Neal Ewers :

You are correct, it is like typing on a regular keyboard. But I think the
confusion here is that you can slide your finger around until you find the
letter you want and then lift your finger and tap it. However, this is not
what is meant to happen with this mode of typing. It is like typing on a
keyboard. You figure out where the letter would be on the keyboard and put
your finger there and quickly lift it up. It takes some practice, and
myself, I think sliding around to find the letter may lengthen the time it
takes for people to get good at just knowing where the letter is. So imagine
that your fingers are suspended above the keyboard. You press your finger
down and release it and hope to heck you are on the right letter. You will
likely become quite acquainted with the delete key.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Direct touch typing

You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing
on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and
that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no
split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is
inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is
inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it
requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature
which is more useful on a larger device.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap
somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard
typing?

Sharonda

On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> Oh my gosh.
> Now I don't understand anything.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
> 
> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know 
> of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
including
> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a 
> little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other 
> method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try 
> it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it 
> wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that 
> suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't 
> think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar 
> or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in 
> extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for 
> them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular 
> method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different 
> strokes, etc. Right? :)
> 
> Teresa
> 
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Cheryl Homiak]

One more comment on this to try to compare the three kinds of typing.
Standard typing is careful, methodical: you find your letter and double-tap it.
Touch typing makes the letters stick to your finger; you can slide around but 
when you liftup, that character comes right along with your finger.
In direct touch typing, you have freedom to explore much like you do in 
standard typing; you can slide aaround and explore and when you lift off, 
unless it's an immediate, quick movement nothing is typed. But it also gives 
the quickness of touch typing as you touch quickly and pull away and the key is 
typed. But characters don't stick to your finger; pulling away does nothing 
unless it's a quick, purposeful motion.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 22, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. 
> Somebody posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps 
> coming up but that's actually not what you need to do though you can.
> 
> The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a 
> quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the 
> letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't 
> get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters 
> coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly 
> the letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit 
> field, like notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry 
> about what you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as 
> if you had discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or 
> as if sharp little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want 
> to get pricked (maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and 
> pull away quickly, the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think 
> you would have to have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and 
> responsive finger muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing 
> on a keyboard; without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do 
> usually pull away pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know 
> how to explain it any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to 
> hopscotch or skip with your finger and that you are out if your finger 
> lingers on the ground. Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger 
> memory of the keyboard, you can still use this kind of typing sometimes just 
> to feel all over the screen without anything happening. Then switch for a 
> while to a light tap/touch and quick release at various places. Jonathan 
> explains it pretty well in his book but i wish I could give you a mental feel 
> for the kind of tactile touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a 
> split tap can't be employed with this typing choice but it appears to me that 
> what this is really meant to do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard 
> with one finger, a light touch and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good 
> at it yet but I think the progress i've made so far is promising enough for 
> me to continue to work on it. I really am sorry that this still isn't really 
> going to get it across to everybody the way I would like to communicate it 
> because it really is neat in my opinion!
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
>> from standard typing?
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> 
>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>>> Oh my gosh.
>>> Now I don't understand anything.
>>&g

RE: Direct touch typing

[Neal Ewers]

You are correct, it is like typing on a regular keyboard. But I think the
confusion here is that you can slide your finger around until you find the
letter you want and then lift your finger and tap it. However, this is not
what is meant to happen with this mode of typing. It is like typing on a
keyboard. You figure out where the letter would be on the keyboard and put
your finger there and quickly lift it up. It takes some practice, and
myself, I think sliding around to find the letter may lengthen the time it
takes for people to get good at just knowing where the letter is. So imagine
that your fingers are suspended above the keyboard. You press your finger
down and release it and hope to heck you are on the right letter. You will
likely become quite acquainted with the delete key.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Direct touch typing

You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing
on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and
that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no
split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is
inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is
inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it
requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature
which is more useful on a larger device.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have to tap
somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different from standard
typing?

Sharonda

On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> Oh my gosh.
> Now I don't understand anything.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>
> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know 
> of four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
including
> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a 
> little like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other 
> method of doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try 
> it, and it never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it 
> wasn't something blind people could use. It just wasn't something that 
> suited me specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't 
> think folks should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar 
> or new. I've trained many people, some of whom learn things in 
> extremely different methods from the ones I use. But it works for 
> them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a particular 
> method, there's another one out there to use. Literally, different 
> strokes, etc. Right? :)
>
> Teresa
>
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Cheryl Homiak]

You don't have to tap somewhere else though I suppose you can do that. Somebody 
posted that direct touch typing involves a split tap and so it keeps coming up 
but that's actually not what you need to do though you can.

The actual main ingredients in direct touch typing are a light touch and a 
quick release. You can move your finger all over the screen and hear the 
letters without anything happening, and the benefit of this is that you don't 
get the problem of a letter being selected and its alternative characters 
coming up. But if you lightly touch a letter and release/pull away quickly the 
letter will register. To try to get the feel of it, go into an edit field, like 
notes or the practice area in the voiceover settings. Don't worry about what 
you are typing. Just lightly touch down a finger and pull away as if you had 
discovered your phone was burning hot or covered by Arctic ice or as if sharp 
little needles or thorns had been implanted and you didn't want to get pricked 
(maybe a bit of an exaggeration). When you touch lightly and pull away quickly, 
the letter will be written. To do this accurately, I think you would have to 
have developed a pretty good finger/ear coordination and responsive finger 
muscles but to some extent we do something similar typing on a keyboard; 
without realizing it we who type well and rapidly really do usually pull away 
pretty quickly from each key when we press it. I don't know how to explain it 
any better. Maybe to get the feel, pretend you are going to hopscotch or skip 
with your finger and that you are out if your finger lingers on the ground. 
Even for those who don't have that accuracy/finger memory of the keyboard, you 
can still use this kind of typing sometimes just to feel all over the screen 
without anything happening. Then switch for a while to a light tap/touch and 
quick release at various places. Jonathan explains it pretty well in his book 
but i wish I could give you a mental feel for the kind of tactile 
touch-and-release this involves. It isn't that a split tap can't be employed 
with this typing choice but it appears to me that what this is really meant to 
do is allow you a way to fly around the keyboard with one finger, a light touch 
and zoom off to another letter. I'm not good at it yet but I think the progress 
i've made so far is promising enough for me to continue to work on it. I really 
am sorry that this still isn't really going to get it across to everybody the 
way I would like to communicate it because it really is neat in my opinion!

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:

> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
> from standard typing?
> 
> Sharonda
> 
> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Now I don't understand anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>> 
>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including
>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little
>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
>> something
>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the

RE: Direct touch typing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think handwriting is the best thing ever invented for opening apps. Yes,
true, I also don't use it for writing longer text, but as Christopher said,
it's a good way to enter a opasscode if you don't want people around you to
hear which numbers you are typing and it absolutely rocks for finding and
opening apps. I have my most used apps on the first home screen and can
usually put my finger on every one of them at the first try, but for
anything else I use handwriting, it's extremely rare that I switch to my
second or third home screen or open a folder.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I use the handwriting input method on a regular basis. I don't use it 
much for typing text messages, but I use it to enter my pin when 
unlocking my phone and using it to search for apps on my home screens. 
I've seen others on the list make similar references, so I don't think 
I'm alone in this.

I also don't see what's wrong with adding another input method. If you 
don't like it then don't use it. I don't see either direct touch typing 
or handwriting causing any ill side effects.

On 09/22/2014 04:29 PM, David Cleveland wrote:
> Who came up with this direct touch typing idea?  It seems half baked to
> me.  I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8
> launch.  It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the
> last minute to IOS 7.  I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting
> input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with
> the direct touch typing as well.
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM
> *To:* Viphone
> *Subject:* Re: Direct touch typing
>
> No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just
> tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and
> precise movements on the touch screen.
>
>
> Sent from my Macbook Pro
>
> On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers  <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With
> touch typing,
>
> you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
> typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place."
>
>
> I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around
> to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way
> all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With
> direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step.
> When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now
> have to bring it down and tap again.
>
> I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and
> others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over
> where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can
> slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to
> simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower
> your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me.
>
> Neal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>
> I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the
> difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a
> letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from
> accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger
> around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is
> entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be
> faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and
> can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For
> my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I
> practice direct touch typing.
>
> On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>
> I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my
> finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct
> touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing,
> you simply lift your finger to enter 

RE: Direct touch typing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You don't have to tap anywhere else. Direct Touch typing is just like typing
on a regular keyboard. You hit the letter you want on the first try and
that's that. There is no sliding around and lifting to insert the letter, no
split or double tapping, you hit where you think the letter is and it is
inserted. If you hit the wrong letter then well, the wrong letter is
inserted and you press delete to get rid of it. As Jonathan said, it
requires a lot of practice and muscle memory and it is probably a feature
which is more useful on a larger device.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
from standard typing?

Sharonda

On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> Oh my gosh.
> Now I don't understand anything.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>
> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
including
> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little
> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
> something
> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>
> Teresa
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Christopher Chaltain]

I use the handwriting input method on a regular basis. I don't use it 
much for typing text messages, but I use it to enter my pin when 
unlocking my phone and using it to search for apps on my home screens. 
I've seen others on the list make similar references, so I don't think 
I'm alone in this.


I also don't see what's wrong with adding another input method. If you 
don't like it then don't use it. I don't see either direct touch typing 
or handwriting causing any ill side effects.


On 09/22/2014 04:29 PM, David Cleveland wrote:

Who came up with this direct touch typing idea?  It seems half baked to
me.  I don't remember reading anything about it prior to the IOS 8
launch.  It reminds me of the handwriting feature added seemingly at the
last minute to IOS 7.  I don't know anyone who uses the handwriting
input method on a regular basis and I suspect the same will be true with
the direct touch typing as well.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *christopher hallsworth
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:55 PM
*To:* Viphone
*Subject:* Re: Direct touch typing

No. Direct Touch Typing does not involve any lifting at all. You just
tap directly on the letter to have it inserted. It involves quick and
precise movements on the touch screen.


Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 22 Sep 2014, at 04:42, Neal Ewers mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>> wrote:



Christopher. This makes sense. But, to quote another list member. "With
touch typing,

you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place."


I can't see this making sense. If I am going to slide my finger around
to look for characters, why wouldn't I just use touch typing. That way
all I have to do is to get to a character and lift my finger. With
direct touch typing used in the quote above, I am simply adding a step.
When I get to a character, I not only have to raise my finger, but I now
have to bring it down and tap again.

I would think what one would want to do her is what Christopher and
others are suggesting. You don't slide your finger, you just hover over
where you think the character is and then touch the screen. Yes, you can
slide if you miss it, and I guess this is a good way to practice. But to
simply use it like touch typing all the time and have to raise and lower
your finger seems more trouble than it is worth to me.

Neal

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Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I've plaid with direct touch typing just a bit now, and I think the
difference is that with touch typing you need to leave your finger on a
letter for a beat before you lift it. I think this keeps you from
accidentally entering the wrong character as you're sliding your finger
around the keyboard. With direct touch typing, I think the character is
entered if you just tap the character. Direct touch typing would be
faster if you're pretty good at knowing right where the character is and
can land on it without having to slide your finger around at all. . For
my part, I'm getting good at knowing where the delete key is as I
practice direct touch typing.

On 09/21/2014 09:49 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

I'm about half the time one character off so I do have to slide my
finger to the correct character in that case. Touch typing and direct
touch typing are exactly alike up to this point. With touch typing,
you simply lift your finger to enter a character. With direct touch
typing, you lift your finger, then tap it down in the same place. It
sDs like there wouldn't be much difference between the two, but I
think the action of actually tapping creates the illusion of typing
more effectively, and kind of awakens the muscle memory for typing, if
that makes sense.

Teresa

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seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
<mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


At the risk of being condescended to, I guess I don't get it either.
When I use touch typing, I drop my finger on the character I want to
enter and then I lift my finger to insert that character into the
edit field. I don't slide my finger around looking for the character
I want, so I'm not quite seeing what direct touch typing buys me. I
guess I'll just have to bring it up and play with it, since the
descriptions I'm seeing on the list aren't really clicking with me.

On 09/21/2014 12:37 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Touch t

Re: Direct touch typing

[Chuck Dean]

I would hold off installing IOS8  It has a lot of bugs and glitches, and Fleksy 
doesn't work with that at all.
By the way, I use the Fleksy VO app constantly and get absolutely fantastic 
results with it. I'm looking forward to it incorporation in the iOS eight as an 
additional keyboard.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> 
> I'm like you Teresa, Fleksy never works for me. I can only type like
> 10 to 15 words prm in Average using fleksy, compare to 50 or 60 words
> prm to standard or touch typing.
> 
> i haven't try the direct typing yet, as i can't really be bother to
> install iOS8 just yet. More to do with my laziness than anything
> though really. :)
> 
> I'll initially get to install ios 8, as i found that the battery issue
> that i have been having with my ip hone 5, even after changing
> battery, or changing phone, is not to do with the hardware, or the
> ios. It is definitely to do with specific apps. As to which apps, i
> can't put my finger on it just yet.
> 
>> On 23/09/2014, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
>> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
>> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
>> from standard typing?
>> 
>> Sharonda
>> 
>>> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>>> Oh my gosh.
>>> Now I don't understand anything.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Teresa Cochran
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>>> 
>>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
>>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
>>> including
>>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a
>>> little
>>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
>>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
>>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
>>> something
>>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
>>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
>>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
>>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
>>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
>>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
>>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>>> 
>>> Teresa
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Joanne Chua]

I'm like you Teresa, Fleksy never works for me. I can only type like
10 to 15 words prm in Average using fleksy, compare to 50 or 60 words
prm to standard or touch typing.

i haven't try the direct typing yet, as i can't really be bother to
install iOS8 just yet. More to do with my laziness than anything
though really. :)

I'll initially get to install ios 8, as i found that the battery issue
that i have been having with my ip hone 5, even after changing
battery, or changing phone, is not to do with the hardware, or the
ios. It is definitely to do with specific apps. As to which apps, i
can't put my finger on it just yet.

On 23/09/2014, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
> to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
> from standard typing?
>
> Sharonda
>
> On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Now I don't understand anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Teresa Cochran
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>>
>> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
>> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully,
>> including
>> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a
>> little
>> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
>> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
>> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
>> something
>> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
>> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
>> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
>> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
>> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
>> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
>> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>>
>> Teresa
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Re: Direct touch typing

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I still don't understand the use of direct touch typing. If you have
to tap somewhere else when you find the letter, how is that different
from standard typing?

Sharonda

On 9/22/14, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> Oh my gosh.
> Now I don't understand anything.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Direct touch typing
>
> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
> four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including
> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little
> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
> never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't
> something
> blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
> specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
> should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
> trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
> methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
> counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
> out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)
>
> Teresa
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RE: Direct touch typing

[Pablo Morales]

Oh my gosh.
Now I don't understand anything.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Direct touch typing

I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of
four totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including
myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little
like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of
doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it
never clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't something
blind people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me
specifically, as far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks
should be lambasted for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've
trained many people, some of whom learn things in extremely different
methods from the ones I use. But it works for them, so that's all that
counts. If a person doesn't like a particular method, there's another one
out there to use. Literally, different strokes, etc. Right? :)

Teresa

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Re: Direct touch typing

[Chuck Dean]

I am looking forward to a podcast of demonstration of this particular type of 
typing, as I have just tried it on my iPad mini, and got nothing but gibberish.

Chuck (mobile)
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> On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> I'm a little puzzled by the general statements in this thread. I know of four 
> totally blind people who have used this method successfully, including 
> myself. Maybe it's because it's a little tricky to describe. It's a little 
> like describing balancing on a bicycle. But it's like any other method of 
> doing anything. When Fleksy first came out, I decided to try it, and it never 
> clicked with me. I didn't then proceed to say that it wasn't something blind 
> people could use. It just wasn't something that suited me specifically, as 
> far as I could tell. That is fine. I don't think folks should be lambasted 
> for using a method that is unfamiliar or new. I've trained many people, some 
> of whom learn things in extremely different methods from the ones I use. But 
> it works for them, so that's all that counts. If a person doesn't like a 
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> 
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