Re: apple Airpods

[Jonathan Cohn]

Might be worth looking to see if the information for this old TidBITS article is still available. They did battery replacements for $60.Refresh Your Old AirPods with a Podswaptidbits.comSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Call Apple. They ctell you how much it would cost to replace the batteries assuming you can. I'd call the main Apple number. 800-692-7753Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 19, 2023, at 5:39 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:These were a Christmas present some three years ago but recently they don't seem to be retaining battery power. Is it possible to buy new batteries for these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy cheaper versions?I do have headphones which connect via the lighting connecter but when entering text, these are painfully slow.Alison--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003801d9eaf6%2448e853a0%24dab8fae0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DC57516D-C8DC-4585-A766-4CD0A0659940%40comcast.net.



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Re: apple Airpods

[Richard Turner]

Call Apple. They ctell you how much it would cost to replace the batteries 
assuming you can. I'd call the main Apple number. 800-692-7753

Richard, USA 
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> On Sep 19, 2023, at 5:39 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> These were a Christmas present some three years ago but recently they don't 
> seem to be retaining battery power. Is it possible to buy new batteries for 
> these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices 
> designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy 
> cheaper versions?
> I do have headphones which connect via the lighting connecter but when 
> entering text, these are painfully slow.
> Alison
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apple Airpods

[CJ & AA MAY]

These were a Christmas present some three years ago but recently they don't 
seem to be retaining battery power. Is it possible to buy new batteries for 
these  or do I need to replace them? If so, do I need to purchase the devices 
designed specifically for the iPhone (which are very costly) or can I buy 
cheaper versions?
I do have headphones which connect via the lighting connecter but when entering 
text, these are painfully slow.
Alison

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RE: A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking outdoors

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And why anybody would want to be seenn walking around with such a huge headset 
out in public is beyond my understanding. Not saying this justifies them 
getting it snatched, but of course given the noise cancellation feature the 
wearer probably isn't even aware a moped is coming up from behind until the 
headset is ripped off their head.

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Turner
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 10:51 AM
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Subject: A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking 
outdoors

NYC thieves stealing Apple headphones off victims' heads

By Associated Press
February 26, 2023 at 11:43 a.m. EST


NEW YORK — Listen up! At least 21 people in New York City have had their fancy 
Apple headphones stolen right off their heads by a roving team of moped-riding 
bandits, police say.
The thefts started on Jan. 28 and have typically involved four people on two 
mopeds riding up to victims from behind, snatching their Apple AirPods Max 
headphones and then speeding off. The noise-canceling devices currently retail 
for $549 a piece.

The sonic swipers have struck all over Manhattan, including one incident in 
Central Park, with victims ranging in age from 18 to 41, police said. The bulk 
of the thefts happened in mid-to-late afternoon. Five headphones were stolen on 
Feb. 8 and eight were taken on Feb. 18.
The thieves remain at large, and no arrests have been made.
Police this week released a photo of suspects riding mopeds and a video showing 
one of them getting off a moped carrying two AirPod Max headphones and walking 
into Washington Square Park.
Unlike AirPods and AirPods Pro, which are small and fit inside the ear, AirPods 
Max headphones rest over the ears and have an adjustable headband connecting 
the right and left sides.




Richard, USA.
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A good example of why not to where Apple Airpods Max while walking outdoors

[Richard Turner]

NYC thieves stealing Apple headphones off victims' heads

By Associated Press
February 26, 2023 at 11:43 a.m. EST


NEW YORK — Listen up! At least 21 people in New York City have had their fancy 
Apple headphones stolen right off their heads by a roving team of moped-riding 
bandits, police say.
The thefts started on Jan. 28 and have typically involved four people on two 
mopeds riding up to victims from behind, snatching their Apple AirPods Max 
headphones and then speeding off. The noise-canceling devices currently retail 
for $549 a piece.

The sonic swipers have struck all over Manhattan, including one incident in 
Central Park, with victims ranging in age from 18 to 41, police said. The bulk 
of the thefts happened in mid-to-late afternoon. Five headphones were stolen on 
Feb. 8 and eight were taken on Feb. 18.
The thieves remain at large, and no arrests have been made.
Police this week released a photo of suspects riding mopeds and a video showing 
one of them getting off a moped carrying two AirPod Max headphones and walking 
into Washington Square Park.
Unlike AirPods and AirPods Pro, which are small and fit inside the ear, AirPods 
Max headphones rest over the ears and have an adjustable headband connecting 
the right and left sides.




Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
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Magnetic Anti Lost Strap for Apple Airpods - Siliconen Wireless Band

[William Windels]

hello, i bought airpods pro 2e generation and I want to hold both airpods 
together wit a strip.
I am not shure but are te strips for the airpods pro 1 gen also working on the 
2 gen of airpods pro?

if so, are there some good experiences with this streps? and which one?

Thx in advance
Mvg 
William windels
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Airpods Max here in Canada are $779 + taxes, since in Ontario you have 15% 
HST that means you would pay $ 895.85 for them.
The Airpods Pro are $329 + taxes and the Airpods Third Gen are $239 + taxes, 
still 274.85.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
verrier
Sent: January 1, 2022 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Have a look at the bose noise cancelling headphones.

The qc45 or the new ones which are something 700

And they are a lot cheaper than the apple max things.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2022 2:36 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

So are there some comparable options that wouldn’t be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; mich verrier 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Cc21cdfb1ad6c40a84b0008d9cc559d3b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765490350148016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=xvOVmZHLO%2FfGWxZbvBTnMr6TomYCZDlhYo9pZT1hvM4%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I use my bose NC700 headphones.  They sound very good to me.  I've
been using a set of anker headphones lately, and they also work very
well when listening to audio dramas, or bard books.  It all depends on
what you can afford.  I'm not saying that I'd never purchase a pair of
airpods max, but they are offly expensive.  However, I found some very
good deals on Ebay.

On 1/1/22, mich verrier  wrote:
> I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it
> does cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring
> in to the situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario
> Disibillidey support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills
> etc oncemy rent is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on
> but I am strickley talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play
> around with once the rent is taken off of my check every month since it is
> taken off automatically. So for instince I have never had enough to pay for
> a IPhone out right so I am stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the
> same go's forajy other apple products like the apple watch for example.
> Shure you can get one for 0 dollars down but you still have to pay it off
> over the years. It would be nice if programs hear in Ontario like the
> assistive divices program would support the purchis of different apple
> products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I filld out a servay that
> made that idea. My point is that I agree what people choose or not choose to
> spend there oney on is there choice how ever not everyone has the funds to
> upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what have you. For instince
> I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up verry well. Could I
> upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just wate. But for
> instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless and having
> bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for walks and
> stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How ever I am
> happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I thought
> they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about
> technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less
> so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape,
> but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth
> headset like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the
> border inform me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am
> talking about our currency.
> Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what
> they want and spend their money accordingly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months,
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS
> updates for a while.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much
> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago
> because I know I'd be replacing

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> He

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>> ved=0
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> --
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, and a very good point. This is why I don't presume to tell people what 
they should or shouldn't do and whether a particular product is worth the money 
or not. In addition to not knowing what other people's financial situation is, 
I also don't know how important different features are to someone and how much 
they're willing to pay for it.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods 
> including Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3
>>> A 
>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bda
>>> t
>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4
>>> 3 
>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8e
>>> y
>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3
>>> 0 
>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Drese
>>> r
>>> ved=0
>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.
>>> x
>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>> iPhone list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this 
>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the 
>>> list itself.
>&

Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

['Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone]

I like the Sony WH1000XM4. It is very comfortable. Has great sound. Normally 
retails for $349 US. However, I got a Black Friday deal for two of them for my 
wife and I. They were $100 off for several weeks over the holidays.
Merv


> On Jan 1, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
> Happy new year Anthony
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
>> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
>> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
>> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
>> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
>> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
>> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
>> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
>> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
>> updates for a while.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
>> me by will be better in a year or two.
>> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much 
>> rather buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago 
>> because I know I'd be replacing them by now.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
>> passes them by.
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
>> Airpod Max or at least not yet
>> 
>> 
>>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>>> in or something.
>>> 
>>>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>>>> headphones:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>>>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>>>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>>>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>>>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>>>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>>>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>>>>> ved=0 
>>>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>>>>> lsx?web=1>
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V 
>>>>> iPhone list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, 
>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact 
>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>

Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Anthony Vece]

Everyone may not have the financial resources or the budget that you have. 
Happy new year Anthony

Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Jan 1, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or 
> two I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying 
> people should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting 
> and how unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology 
> for quite a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my 
> iPhone 4S forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, 
> I'll see what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will 
> have some new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was 
> using a device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS 
> updates for a while.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes 
> me by will be better in a year or two.
> A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
> buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
> know I'd be replacing them by now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
> them by.
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
> Airpod Max or at least not yet
> 
> 
>> I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>> in or something.
>> 
>>> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>>> ved=0 
>>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>>> lsx?web=1>
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
>> Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
>> %2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bdat
>> a=04%7C01%7C%7Cc30f8ab5dcf44f487fda08d9ccf673b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb43
>> 5%7C1%7C0%7C637766181135398885%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8ey
>> JWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C30
>> 00sdata=sgTUk3asnycITbuLGyzVoBrQHJEzRYo3o5BHuZU0B0E%3Dreser
>> ved=0 
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign  
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>>
>> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
>> Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_b
>> voutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.x
>> lsx?web=1>
>>
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course 
>> add the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be 
>> able to provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less 
>> than what the Airpods Max dcost.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There have been rumors for quite some time, but earlier this year they 
apparently showed off something at a tech show in Germany and if you Google 
"When will Sonos release a headset" or something like that you find a lot of 
articles from reputable sources where it was expected this would happen in 
2021, but unless they'll make an announcement in the next 49 minutes it will be 
2022 if at all.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: December 31, 2021 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.
Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7C6e4c52b2ea5d490c39d608d9cc49b106%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765439141460686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=cccWjBC9%2BIM%2BnqYjOEBvbr%2B02LqUOtkzu7eWBo7bUeo%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Andy Baracco]

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it 
passes them by.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet




I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
Ambitions<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add 
the

headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the 
Airpods

Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

First, Mary, The batteries can be replaced when they die; or at least that is 
my understanding.
Second, Joshuah, I'm sure if you got an Apple Card you could pay them off in 
time.
If people think Sonos will come out with a pair of headphones for less; I will 
be surprised if they do and if their batery is driving Wi-Fi and bluetooth, who 
knows what that will look like.
I'm quite happy with my purchase.
But, to each his/her own.



Richard
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly 
greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:30 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
> headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
> payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.
> 
>> On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
>> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
>> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
>> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
>> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
>> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
>> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year everyone
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
 plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
 I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
 issue of any lag. There isn't one.
 
 
 
 
 Richard
 "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
 lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
 
 My web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
>> wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
> to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
> waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
> most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
> mention that the audio quality is amazing?
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
> and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
> figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
> in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
> the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
>> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
>> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
>> the Airpods Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The airpods max are just way to much money.  I've spent $300 on
headphones before, but that was because I could pay them off in
payments.  I don't think I could do that with the airpods max.

On 12/31/21, Mary Otten  wrote:
> I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the
> same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on
> batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth
> speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember
> the days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for
> a decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in
> obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I
>> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved
>> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the
>> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty
>> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the
>> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
>>
>> Happy new year everyone
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not
>>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the
>>> issue of any lag. There isn't one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is
>>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>>>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell 
> wrote:

 I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

 The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of
 headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next
 to me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a
 waist of money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the
 most comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I
 mention that the audio quality is amazing?

 Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are
 “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip
 and it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have
 figured out how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present
 in most “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in
 the slightest.

 They’re worth it in my book.

 Ed


>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add
> the headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to
> provide true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what
> the Airpods Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Mary Otten]

I also agree. The AirPods max are really good. My concern about them is the 
same as my concern about any other high-end earphone which depends on 
batteries. Batteries die. That’s also a problem with high-end Bluetooth 
speakers, like my beloved HomePods which Apple no longer makes. I remember the 
days when you would have a pair of headphones are excellent speakers for a 
decade or more. But that won’t be happening now because of the built-in 
obsolescence due to these damn batteries. That is a problem.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I 
> think they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved 
> the sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the 
> AirPod max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty 
> flat so as a side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the 
> sounds great and now Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.
> 
> Happy new year everyone 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
>> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
>> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
>> of any lag. There isn't one.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
>> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
>> 
 On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>>> 
>>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention 
>>> that the audio quality is amazing? 
>>> 
>>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>>> slightest.
>>> 
>>> They’re worth it in my book.
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
 connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
 headphones:
 
  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
 
 So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
 headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
 true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
 Max dcost.
 
 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Lynda Ingraham]

I totally agree with Richard. I just got my AirPod max for Christmas. I think 
they sound absolutely awesome. There is no lag. And they have solved the 
sleeping issues. I think the noise canceling is probably better on the AirPod 
max in the balls. Also, the design of the ear cup is really pretty flat so as a 
side sleeper no problem at all. I absolutely love them the sounds great and now 
Jerry and Gregory can sleep without being harassed.

Happy new year everyone 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not 
> plan to look for any other headset for music/movies.
> I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue 
> of any lag. There isn't one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is 
> lightly greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
>> 
>> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of 
>> headphones that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to 
>> me. I personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of 
>> money, they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most 
>> comfortable pair of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that 
>> the audio quality is amazing? 
>> 
>> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are 
>> “wireless”, Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and 
>> it makes for a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out 
>> how to get rid of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most 
>> “wireless” headphones. Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the 
>> slightest.
>> 
>> They’re worth it in my book.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>>> headphones:
>>> 
>>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>>> 
>>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>>> Max dcost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Richard Turner]

Ed, I agree 100% I'm coming up on a year with the Airpods Max and do not plan 
to look for any other headset for music/movies.
I've never heard anything so good and you are right on concerning the issue of 
any lag. There isn't one.




Richard
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly 
greased." -- Kehlog Albran, The Profit

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

(Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro)

> On Dec 31, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.
> 
> The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
> that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
> personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
> they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair 
> of headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality 
> is amazing? 
> 
> Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
> Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for 
> a very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid 
> of the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
> Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.
> 
> They’re worth it in my book.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
>> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max 
>> headphones:
>> 
>>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>> 
>> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
>> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
>> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
>> Max dcost.
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Ed Worrell]

I have the AirPods Max headphones, and the sound quality is amazing.

The funny thing about audio is it is very subjective and a pair of headphones 
that sound good to me will not sound good to the person next to me. I 
personally don’t believe the price for the headphones was a waist of money, 
they sound great and I’m happy with them. They are the most comfortable pair of 
headphones I have ever owned. Oh yeah did I mention that the audio quality is 
amazing? 

Bluetooth will be a limitation for any set of headphones that are “wireless”, 
Apple actually has done a remarkable job with their W1 chip and it makes for a 
very seamless experience pairing and they have figured out how to get rid of 
the bluetooth lag that seems to be present in most “wireless” headphones. 
Voiceover doesn’t stutter or drop out in the slightest.

They’re worth it in my book.

Ed


> On Dec 30, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
> is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:
>  
>  Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions
>  
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
> Max dcost.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[chrisjudge1967]

Sonos headphones, well I’m in to Sonos so deep I would have to purchase a pair.

Are their rumors that Sonos is planning to release a head set?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: December 31, 2021 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn’t saying that anyone shouldn’t 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I’ve always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I’m sure I’d be all 
over these headsets. This doesn’t mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I’ve had with myh AirPod Pros though.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Christopher,

 

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

 

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames 

But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,

Depending on the price,

I’ll go there without waiting.

 

Sonos are an audio company 

Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

 

My sound system within my house is sonos,

Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

 

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

So are there some comparable options that wouldn't be a complete waste of money?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
Curralejo
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mich verrier 
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money in 
my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier" 
mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn't read the 
artickle. From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon]Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Cc21cdfb1ad6c40a84b0008d9cc559d3b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765490350148016%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=xvOVmZHLO%2FfGWxZbvBTnMr6TomYCZDlhYo9pZT1hvM4%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

This probably goes without saying, but I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't 
have a pair of Sonos headsets. I've always been intrigued with Sonos myself, 
and if I already had an investment in the Sonos system then I'm sure I'd be all 
over these headsets. This doesn't mean I would ever regret the last 18 months 
I've had with myh AirPod Pros though.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I've got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I'll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7C6e4c52b2ea5d490c39d608d9cc49b106%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765439141460686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=cccWjBC9%2BIM%2BnqYjOEBvbr%2B02LqUOtkzu7eWBo7bUeo%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Marco Curralejo]

Well I have been saying this for many months now. A complete waste of money 
in my opinion because of that lead to technology that Apple allows in their 
headsets in terms of not updating to the latest protocol.


On December 31, 2021 22:51:16 "mich verrier"  wrote:
Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? 
Mycrosoft wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t 
read the artickle. From Mich.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth 
connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:


Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide 
true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods 
Max dcost.



Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 
<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>
 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Simon A Fogarty]

Christopher,

Your right there is argument for waiting and or not waiting,

I’ve got airpods pro and bose frames
But if sonos bring out a pair of real over the head headphones,
Depending on the price,
I’ll go there without waiting.

Sonos are an audio company
Apple make tech devices and are very good at it,

My sound system within my house is sonos,
Why should I not have a set of sonos headphones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, 31 December 2021 11:12 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with waiting, and I’m sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn’t gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I’d been without my AirPod Pros. I’m not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I’m just saying there’s also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[​xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Ce57745901de241e7e98708d9cc25a94a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765284389741210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=oKbcLcVMfj5BFxCTnheCq9Gke2ZLNAD7B%2Fk2fp7PQzQ%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
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lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Christopher Chaltain]

Obviously there's nothing wrong with waiting, and I'm sure the Sonos headset 
will be the bomb, but if I hadn't gotten my AirPod Pros over a year ago then 
that would have been over 12 months I'd been without my AirPod Pros. I'm not 
saying the AirPod Pros are perfect or that everyone should run out and buy a 
pair, but I'm just saying there's also a cost for waiting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/x-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com%2Fpersonal%2Finfo_bvoutdoors_com%2FDocuments%2FDryshod%2520November%2520Order%2520with%2520Changes.xlsx%3Fweb%3D1=04%7C01%7C%7Ce57745901de241e7e98708d9cc25a94a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637765284389741210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=oKbcLcVMfj5BFxCTnheCq9Gke2ZLNAD7B%2Fk2fp7PQzQ%3D=0>

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


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Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign
in or something.

On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth
> connectivity is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max
> headphones:
>
> [?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods
> Ambitions
>
> So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the
> headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide
> true lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods
> Max dcost.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

[?xlsx icon] Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple's AirPods 
Ambitions

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.


Best regards,
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Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Esther Levegnale]

that's correct, they do not have the tips on them like the second generation 
did. I do like the sound of them though. Thanks. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don’t have the Air Pods 3rd generation, but based on what I remember 
> reading, they have a slightly different shape then the 2nd generation. It’s 
> more like the Air Pod Pros without the silicon inserts. They also now support 
> spatial audio.
>  
> The Air Pod Pros, which I do have, have the silicon ear tips, giving you 
> passive noise cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation as well 
> as a transparency mode.
>  
> Again, I’m just going off my memory on what I remember reading about the 3rd 
> generation Air Pods, so you may want to search for a few reviews on line.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
> Downey
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 5:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?
>  
> Thanks Esther!
>  
> I probably will get a new iPhone first and then decide about another set of 
> AirPods. I have the 2nd generation and don’t really use those much!
>  
> Debbie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 12:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?
>  
> Hi, Deb,
>  
> I just purchased the AirPods 3 and I really like them because the bass is 
> pretty prominent.  The trebble is quite good as well.
>  
> Hope that helps.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>  
> 
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods 
> 3rd edition and the AirPods Pro?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Debbie
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Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Esther Levegnale]

sounds like a plan. Good luck. Esther

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Esther!
>  
> I probably will get a new iPhone first and then decide about another set of 
> AirPods. I have the 2nd generation and don’t really use those much!
>  
> Debbie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 12:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?
>  
> Hi, Deb,
>  
> I just purchased the AirPods 3 and I really like them because the bass is 
> pretty prominent.  The trebble is quite good as well.
>  
> Hope that helps.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods 
> 3rd edition and the AirPods Pro?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Debbie
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RE: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don’t have the Air Pods 3rd generation, but based on what I remember reading, 
they have a slightly different shape then the 2nd generation. It’s more like 
the Air Pod Pros without the silicon inserts. They also now support spatial 
audio.

The Air Pod Pros, which I do have, have the silicon ear tips, giving you 
passive noise cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation as well as 
a transparency mode.

Again, I’m just going off my memory on what I remember reading about the 3rd 
generation Air Pods, so you may want to search for a few reviews on line.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 5:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

Thanks Esther!

I probably will get a new iPhone first and then decide about another set of 
AirPods. I have the 2nd generation and don’t really use those much!

Debbie

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

Hi, Deb,

I just purchased the AirPods 3 and I really like them because the bass is 
pretty prominent.  The trebble is quite good as well.

Hope that helps.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Debbie Downey 
mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods 3rd 
edition and the AirPods Pro?

Thanks!

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RE: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Debbie Downey]

Thanks Esther!

 

I probably will get a new iPhone first and then decide about another set of 
AirPods. I have the 2nd generation and don’t really use those much!

 

Debbie

 

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Levegnale
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 12:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

 

Hi, Deb,

 

I just purchased the AirPods 3 and I really like them because the bass is 
pretty prominent.  The trebble is quite good as well.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Debbie Downey mailto:debdow...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:



Hi,

 

Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods 3rd 
edition and the AirPods Pro?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie 

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Re: Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Deb,

I just purchased the AirPods 3 and I really like them because the bass is 
pretty prominent.  The trebble is quite good as well.

Hope that helps.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Debbie Downey  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods 
> 3rd edition and the AirPods Pro?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Debbie
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Apple AirPods 3rd edition and AirPods Pro?

[Debbie Downey]

Hi,

 

Can someone tell me the difference or differences between the Apple Airpods
3rd edition and the AirPods Pro?

 

Thanks!

 

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Fwd: Apple AirPods Pro vs Beats Fit Pro - Reviewed

[Mickey Quenzer]

***  MQ ***


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kliph 
> Date: November 6, 2021 at 9:44:19 AM CDT
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple AirPods Pro vs Beats Fit Pro - Reviewed
> Reply-To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
>>> Lee NeikirkUpdated November 5, 2021
>>> 
>>> Recommendations are independently chosen by Reviewed’s editors. Purchases 
>>> you make through our links may earn us a commission.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Beats recently launched what are arguably the company’s most exciting pair 
>>> of true wireless earbuds yet: the Beats Fit Pro. These buds present a 
>>> high-value package for the price, not least of all because they so handily 
>>> emulate the Apple AirPods Pro, generally regarded as the best earbuds for 
>>> pairing with an iPhone.
>>> 
>>> You might know where this is going: After careful evaluation, we’re 
>>> impressed enough with the Beats Fit Pro that we don’t just think these true 
>>> wireless buds successfully emulate the AirPods Pro—for many folks they 
>>> might just be the superior choice. So what else could we do but put these 
>>> two mighty true wireless options head-to-head to see which is best? Let’s 
>>> find out.
>>> 
>>> Get the Beats Fit Pro from Amazon
>>> 
>>> Get the Apple AirPods Pro from Amazon
>>> 
>>> Price
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>>> Not sure which buds to give your dollars to?
>>> Price tends to be the easiest comparison to make, and while that’s still 
>>> generally true here, there are a few considerations to take into account. 
>>> For example, the AirPods Pro originally launched in 2019 at an MSRP of 
>>> $249, but you can often find them on sale well below the $200 mark.
>>> 
>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>> The Beats Fit Pro launched on November 1st, 2021 at an MSRP of $199. 
>>> They’re certainly the cheaper of the two from an MSRP perspective, but it’s 
>>> also unlikely we’ll see similar price drops for the Fit Pro for a while 
>>> considering how much newer they are.
>>> 
>>> Without the advantage of sales during holiday season, however, the AirPods 
>>> Pro are often pricier than $200, and that's may be even more likely as they 
>>> transition to a newer version that tacks on MagSafe wireless charging. As 
>>> such, we’ve got to give this one to the Beats.
>>> 
>>> Our pick: Beats Fit Pro
>>> 
>>> Fit and design
>>> 
>>> The AirPods Pro went a long way to fixing some of the issues we took with 
>>> the original AirPods, not least of which was to drastically improve the 
>>> general level of comfort thanks to their magnetic ear tips.
>>> 
>>> Related content
>>> 
>>> Yet they also continue to use Apple’s “semi-open fit” design, which means 
>>> that despite replacing the plastic shell of the original AirPods with an 
>>> ear-tipped design that fits comfortably and snugly into most ear canals, 
>>> they still fit a bit loosely in the outer ear.
>>> 
>>> Some folks love this design—and swear by it—but to my ears, the AirPods Pro 
>>> always feel like they might jump ship unexpectedly, especially during a 
>>> workout or any kind of vigorous activity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Credit: Reviewed / Lee Neikirk
>>> Design and fit are one major way these true wireless buds differ.
>>> The Beats Fit Pro take a different approach: They’re not just fitted with 
>>> traditional ear tips, they also have a stabilizing wing that fits snugly 
>>> into the outer ear. This is in place of the clunkier (but very stable) ear 
>>> hooks that defined previous Beats buds like the Powerbeats and Powerbeats 
>>> Pro. The wing design isn’t a new thing for true wireless earbuds, but if 
>>> most of your experience revolves around AirPods, it’s a notable change in 
>>> fit and feel to be sure.
>>> 
>>> ADVERTISEMENT
>>> In terms of waterproofing, the AirPods Pro and Beats Fit Pro are 
>>> essentially identical: both offer an IPX4 Ingress Protection rating, which 
>>> translates to “water splashes over 5-10 minutes have no harmful effect.” 
>>> That means you can work out with either pair of buds, but probably 
>>> shouldn’t rinse them off in the sink afterward.
>>> 
>>> Finally, what about weight? The AirPods Pro clock in at 5.4 grams per bud, 
>>> while the Beats Fit Pro are just a smidge heavi

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Christopher Chaltain]

One of the minor reasons I got the Airdpod Pros was because with the Trekz 
Titaniums, which has the band going around behind the neck, you can’t lie down 
at all or even put your head back on a high backed chair. You can do this with 
the Airpod Pros. Although I wouldn’t sleep in the Air pod Pros, I’m sure I’ve 
nodded off while wearing them. I used to fall asleep with the wired Apple 
earbuds in my ears, and that worked but I could end up with some pretty soar 
ears if I ended up sleeping in the wrong position. For Christmas my son gave me 
some sleep phones, which were mentioned on one of these lists, and they’re 
awesome for listening to a book as I’m nodding off at night.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

Good on you for being able to wear the headphones,

I can’t sleep with even the airpods series 1 or 2 in my ears
And I move around a lot,
I’d probably break the max if I tried sleeping with them on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:05 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

I can assure you it is not me the one that is snoring. It has actually been 
reduced somewhat. My retired guy dog used to sleep on her bed in her head would 
hang off and we don’t have carpeting in the bedroom due to allergies etc. Her 
snoring would just resonate. And one night I was sleeping with my Bose 
headphones noise canceling and I could hear it so I was up on my elbow take the 
headphones off to figure out if it’s my husband so I need to get him to roll 
over is it my retired dog or is it my current guy dog. Headphones come off the 
noise stops. I try to lay back down, the noise starts. The third or fourth time 
I set up I took the headphones off I’m going who’s doing that! And my husband 
it’s like it’s a dog it’s the dog. So I am very sensitive to that noise I had 
to have a sleep study. The two rooms that were being occupied one by me another 
person. I don’t know why they set it up this way, but the head of the two beds 
were sharing the same wall. Actually when I think about it I think it’s for all 
the electronics. Let me tell you that guy on the other side of the wall made my 
crew look like nothing. I told the doctor when I went back, do you have any 
clue how close it came to a homicide in your facility? And I think the tech 
must’ve put it in the notes in here I could hear them trying not to laugh 
because I’ll miss Ingraham what was wrong. I told them I said this is not cool 
at all.

That’s a good idea to make a custom pillow that would accommodate the 
headphones. I think that’s what I’m gonna do.

Stay well,

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Including yourself snoring!

I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
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On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My be

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Simon A Fogarty]

Good on you for being able to wear the headphones,

I can’t sleep with even the airpods series 1 or 2 in my ears
And I move around a lot,
I’d probably break the max if I tried sleeping with them on.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:05 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

I can assure you it is not me the one that is snoring. It has actually been 
reduced somewhat. My retired guy dog used to sleep on her bed in her head would 
hang off and we don’t have carpeting in the bedroom due to allergies etc. Her 
snoring would just resonate. And one night I was sleeping with my Bose 
headphones noise canceling and I could hear it so I was up on my elbow take the 
headphones off to figure out if it’s my husband so I need to get him to roll 
over is it my retired dog or is it my current guy dog. Headphones come off the 
noise stops. I try to lay back down, the noise starts. The third or fourth time 
I set up I took the headphones off I’m going who’s doing that! And my husband 
it’s like it’s a dog it’s the dog. So I am very sensitive to that noise I had 
to have a sleep study. The two rooms that were being occupied one by me another 
person. I don’t know why they set it up this way, but the head of the two beds 
were sharing the same wall. Actually when I think about it I think it’s for all 
the electronics. Let me tell you that guy on the other side of the wall made my 
crew look like nothing. I told the doctor when I went back, do you have any 
clue how close it came to a homicide in your facility? And I think the tech 
must’ve put it in the notes in here I could hear them trying not to laugh 
because I’ll miss Ingraham what was wrong. I told them I said this is not cool 
at all.

That’s a good idea to make a custom pillow that would accommodate the 
headphones. I think that’s what I’m gonna do.

Stay well,

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Including yourself snoring!

I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
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great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
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On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

HI Jennie,

Interesting.
It is not consistent.
Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
It could be a processing issue?
I’m not sure.
But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
it to Apple.

Later,



Richard

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RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’m laughing at the idea of you and your wife sleeping on a massage table,
I’d hope you both like cosie!

sf

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 7:14 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

You may find that there are pillows made for people using C-Pap machines that 
might work.
Or ones that are like massage tables where your face fits in them. I could see 
a combination that would allow one to sleep on their side and not put pressure 
on the ear piece, but it will be tricky.
Good luck with it. Who knows, you may find a market for such a pillow.


Richard
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On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:04 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I can assure you it is not me the one that is snoring. It has actually been 
reduced somewhat. My retired guy dog used to sleep on her bed in her head would 
hang off and we don’t have carpeting in the bedroom due to allergies etc. Her 
snoring would just resonate. And one night I was sleeping with my Bose 
headphones noise canceling and I could hear it so I was up on my elbow take the 
headphones off to figure out if it’s my husband so I need to get him to roll 
over is it my retired dog or is it my current guy dog. Headphones come off the 
noise stops. I try to lay back down, the noise starts. The third or fourth time 
I set up I took the headphones off I’m going who’s doing that! And my husband 
it’s like it’s a dog it’s the dog. So I am very sensitive to that noise I had 
to have a sleep study. The two rooms that were being occupied one by me another 
person. I don’t know why they set it up this way, but the head of the two beds 
were sharing the same wall. Actually when I think about it I think it’s for all 
the electronics. Let me tell you that guy on the other side of the wall made my 
crew look like nothing. I told the doctor when I went back, do you have any 
clue how close it came to a homicide in your facility? And I think the tech 
must’ve put it in the notes in here I could hear them trying not to laugh 
because I’ll miss Ingraham what was wrong. I told them I said this is not cool 
at all.

That’s a good idea to make a custom pillow that would accommodate the 
headphones. I think that’s what I’m gonna do.

Stay well,

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Including yourself snoring!

I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
"
great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
--
Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cfdd4cff82b69491215cb08d8f341bd15%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637526810966338715%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=ioAX36%2BAHMxUuBimmsnUBXzlt4mW%2BDsK8ncOSlCTmUw%3D=0>




On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone



On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richar

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Richard Turner]

You may find that there are pillows made for people using C-Pap machines that 
might work.
Or ones that are like massage tables where your face fits in them. I could see 
a combination that would allow one to sleep on their side and not put pressure 
on the ear piece, but it will be tricky.
Good luck with it. Who knows, you may find a market for such a pillow.



Richard
"
great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
--
Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com


On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:04 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:

 I can assure you it is not me the one that is snoring. It has actually been 
reduced somewhat. My retired guy dog used to sleep on her bed in her head would 
hang off and we don’t have carpeting in the bedroom due to allergies etc. Her 
snoring would just resonate. And one night I was sleeping with my Bose 
headphones noise canceling and I could hear it so I was up on my elbow take the 
headphones off to figure out if it’s my husband so I need to get him to roll 
over is it my retired dog or is it my current guy dog. Headphones come off the 
noise stops. I try to lay back down, the noise starts. The third or fourth time 
I set up I took the headphones off I’m going who’s doing that! And my husband 
it’s like it’s a dog it’s the dog. So I am very sensitive to that noise I had 
to have a sleep study. The two rooms that were being occupied one by me another 
person. I don’t know why they set it up this way, but the head of the two beds 
were sharing the same wall. Actually when I think about it I think it’s for all 
the electronics. Let me tell you that guy on the other side of the wall made my 
crew look like nothing. I told the doctor when I went back, do you have any 
clue how close it came to a homicide in your facility? And I think the tech 
must’ve put it in the notes in here I could hear them trying not to laugh 
because I’ll miss Ingraham what was wrong. I told them I said this is not cool 
at all.

That’s a good idea to make a custom pillow that would accommodate the 
headphones. I think that’s what I’m gonna do.

Stay well,

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Including yourself snoring!

I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
"
great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
--
Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cfdd4cff82b69491215cb08d8f341bd15%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637526810966338715%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=ioAX36%2BAHMxUuBimmsnUBXzlt4mW%2BDsK8ncOSlCTmUw%3D=0>



On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

HI Jennie,

Interesting.
It is not consistent.
Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
It could be a processing issue?
I’m not sure.
But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
it to Apple.

Later,



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turn

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Lynda Ingraham]

I can assure you it is not me the one that is snoring. It has actually been 
reduced somewhat. My retired guy dog used to sleep on her bed in her head would 
hang off and we don’t have carpeting in the bedroom due to allergies etc. Her 
snoring would just resonate. And one night I was sleeping with my Bose 
headphones noise canceling and I could hear it so I was up on my elbow take the 
headphones off to figure out if it’s my husband so I need to get him to roll 
over is it my retired dog or is it my current guy dog. Headphones come off the 
noise stops. I try to lay back down, the noise starts. The third or fourth time 
I set up I took the headphones off I’m going who’s doing that! And my husband 
it’s like it’s a dog it’s the dog. So I am very sensitive to that noise I had 
to have a sleep study. The two rooms that were being occupied one by me another 
person. I don’t know why they set it up this way, but the head of the two beds 
were sharing the same wall. Actually when I think about it I think it’s for all 
the electronics. Let me tell you that guy on the other side of the wall made my 
crew look like nothing. I told the doctor when I went back, do you have any 
clue how close it came to a homicide in your facility? And I think the tech 
must’ve put it in the notes in here I could hear them trying not to laugh 
because I’ll miss Ingraham what was wrong. I told them I said this is not cool 
at all.

That’s a good idea to make a custom pillow that would accommodate the 
headphones. I think that’s what I’m gonna do.

Stay well,

Lynda

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:35 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Including yourself snoring!
>  
> I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
> move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri
>  
> First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording 
> with Just Press Record.
> As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
> back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
> not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
> like just what you need.
>  
>  
> Richard 
> "
> great minds discuss ideas
> , 
> average minds discuss events
> , 
> small minds discuss people
> ." 
> --
> Eleanor Roosevelt
>  
>  
> www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
> 
>  Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
> switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
> difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
> the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
> would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of 
> dictation.
>  
> Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other 
> people actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep 
> with my noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a 
> little bit more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be 
> very comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.
>  
> Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> HI Jennie,
>  
> Interesting.
> It is not consistent.
> Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
> It could be a processing issue?
> I’m not sure.
> But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
> it to Apple.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
> becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after 
> that few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have 
> any of the same issues?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Jenn
>  
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Simon A Fogarty]

Including yourself snoring!

I’m thinking sleeping on your side might get uncomfortable unless you don’t 
move and your pillow has a hole for the headphones ear piece to sit in.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
"
great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
--
Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
mailto:lynda.ingra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

HI Jennie,

Interesting.
It is not consistent.
Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
It could be a processing issue?
I’m not sure.
But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
it to Apple.

Later,



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C7a728cb53fac4b77ef0d08d8f274637d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525928989703280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=gMR7cP90x71KsXhwRadfQwGekFRU7Qq%2BPHTg6xQhvlQ%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

Hi all,

When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after that 
few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have any of 
the same issues?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi



On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Good news.
For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
when Noise Cancelation was on.

I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because they 
will disconnect.
Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!

That is all it took.
Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from the 
outside world.
Very nice indeed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C7a728cb53fac4b77ef0d08d8f274637d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525928989703280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=gMR7cP90x71KsXhwRadfQwGekFRU7Qq%2BPHTg6xQhvlQ%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I’d be 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Richard Turner]

First on the recording, that was not "dictation" that was simply recording with 
Just Press Record.
As for sleeping with the AirPods max, if you are a person who sleeps on your 
back I could see them being very easy to wear at night just remember you will 
not hear anything in the room if you have noise cancellation on, which sounds 
like just what you need.


Richard
"
great minds discuss ideas
,
average minds discuss events
,
small minds discuss people
."
--
Eleanor Roosevelt


www.turner42.com


On Mar 28, 2021, at 10:34 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:

 Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation 
switched over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a 
difficult time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference 
the AirPod max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I 
would be willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


HI Jennie,

Interesting.
It is not consistent.
Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
It could be a processing issue?
I’m not sure.
But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
it to Apple.

Later,



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C7a728cb53fac4b77ef0d08d8f274637d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525928989703280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=gMR7cP90x71KsXhwRadfQwGekFRU7Qq%2BPHTg6xQhvlQ%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

Hi all,

When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after that 
few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have any of 
the same issues?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Good news.
For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
when Noise Cancelation was on.

I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because they 
will disconnect.
Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!

That is all it took.
Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from the 
outside world.
Very nice indeed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C7a728cb53fac4b77ef0d08d8f274637d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525928989703280%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=gMR7cP90x71KsXhwRadfQwGekFRU7Qq%2BPHTg6xQhvlQ%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroup

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Lynda Ingraham]

Richard thank you very much for the demonstration. When the dictation switched 
over to your SE, it was very eye-opening as to why Siri had such a difficult 
time transcribing our dictated messages properly. What a difference the AirPod 
max mix. Hopefully, Apple will fix the 17 second switch over. I would be 
willing to use The AirPod simply to improve the accuracy of dictation.

Would you say they might be comfortable to sleep with? I have two other people 
actually a person in a dog in my bedroom that snore. I generally sleep with my 
noise canceling headphones on. But always looking for something a little bit 
more comfortable than what I have. I have not found the Bose to be very 
comfortable. My beats are absolutely terrible to sleep on.

Thank you very much. Hope you’re enjoying retirement.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> HI Jennie,
>  
> Interesting.
> It is not consistent.
> Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
> It could be a processing issue?
> I’m not sure.
> But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
> it to Apple.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
> Facer
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
> becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after 
> that few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have 
> any of the same issues?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Jenn
>  
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good news.
> For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
> developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
> when Noise Cancelation was on.
>  
> I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
> headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
> noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
> the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because 
> they will disconnect.
> Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!
>  
> That is all it took.
> Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from 
> the outside world.
> Very nice indeed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
&g

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Richard Turner]

HI Jennie,

Interesting.
It is not consistent.
Sometimes I get the static for a little while, but mostly I don’t.
It could be a processing issue?
I’m not sure.
But, as I use them more, I will pay attention and write something up and send 
it to Apple.

Later,



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

Hi all,

When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after that 
few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have any of 
the same issues?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Good news.
For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
when Noise Cancelation was on.

I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because they 
will disconnect.
Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!

That is all it took.
Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from the 
outside world.
Very nice indeed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C2cf91312d58b457a474c08d8f1325aa6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524545853654062%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=rFlSvHOXmKjS%2FvKucfQI6tfbpljRFzViMimV0duOqhY%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've never heard of that happening when I use Siri.  I usually use
Siri to play music from youtube music and it works very well.

On 3/28/21, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but
> it becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal
> after that few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones
> have any of the same issues?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Good news.
>> For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max
>> developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones
>> even when Noise Cancelation was on.
>>
>> I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset
>> the headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and
>> the noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them
>> connected to the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the
>> reset because they will disconnect.
>> Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!
>>
>> That is all it took.
>> Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones
>> from the outside world.
>> Very nice indeed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair,
>> as it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would
>> be. Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However,
>> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the
>> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple.
>> Thanks.
>> Best,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>>
>> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out
>> if I have a defective set.
>> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
>> I’ll be calling apple today.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing
>> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain
>> instruments coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I
>> got an extra sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly
>> lower the volume on the Pods which should assist in additional battery
>> life. I appreciate your question, as I now know I can use both devices
>> without difficulty.
>> Best,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>>
>> Les, one question for you since you have them.
>> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still
>> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on
>> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
>> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you
>> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
>> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're
>> retired?'
>> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one
>> o

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours regarding Siri

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

When I say hey Siri and then instruct her to play some music, she does but it 
becomes staticky for just a few seconds. It then goes back to normal after that 
few seconds. Do you Richard or anyone else with these headphones have any of 
the same issues?

Thanks,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Good news.
> For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
> developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
> when Noise Cancelation was on.
>  
> I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
> headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
> noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
> the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because 
> they will disconnect.
> Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!
>  
> That is all it took.
> Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from 
> the outside world.
> Very nice indeed.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
> the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
> question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
> to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to 
> the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person 
> on the 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, yes I get the sounds. No, I don’t have to switch off and back on the 
Bluetooth setting on my phone. It just works as it should.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, I probably have that resource somewhere, but send it along anyway with the 
answer to one more question before I try the PC pairing. 

Do you get all the computer sound, Jaws and system over the Max? That is what I 
would want.

Do you have to turn off bluetooth on the computer to switch back to the phone?

O well that was two questions. Ha, ha.

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 




 






On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9811f5ddcb154c6644b708d8f23104d4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525639639685441%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=TS%2FQPNov0IDOsPDNXQBeB1JSAeGjkpVjkSM52nc6Lt0%3D=0>
 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancella

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, that’s more than I got, but I could have missed the sounds. BTW, my 
iPhone was in an adjoining room when I paired the Max to my PC, and they paired 
the first time today. I believe the reset made the difference. That was an 
unexpected pleasant surprise.

Best,

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Also Les, et al, There was no message about them disconnecting, I just knew by 
the fact that the sound came out of the iPhone for a few seconds. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 




 






On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9811f5ddcb154c6644b708d8f23104d4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525639639685441%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=TS%2FQPNov0IDOsPDNXQBeB1JSAeGjkpVjkSM52nc6Lt0%3D=0>
 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my rig

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Also Les, et al, There was no message about them disconnecting, I just knew by 
the fact that the sound came out of the iPhone for a few seconds.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard,
I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Les,
I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.
A hard reset did the trick.
And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.
Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.
So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.
Later,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9811f5ddcb154c6644b708d8f23104d4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525639639685441%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=TS%2FQPNov0IDOsPDNXQBeB1JSAeGjkpVjkSM52nc6Lt0%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through tho

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Les, I probably have that resource somewhere, but send it along anyway with the 
answer to one more question before I try the PC pairing.
Do you get all the computer sound, Jaws and system over the Max? That is what I 
would want.
Do you have to turn off bluetooth on the computer to switch back to the phone?
O well that was two questions. Ha, ha.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard,
I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Les,
I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.
A hard reset did the trick.
And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.
Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.
So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.
Later,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9811f5ddcb154c6644b708d8f23104d4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525639639685441%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=TS%2FQPNov0IDOsPDNXQBeB1JSAeGjkpVjkSM52nc6Lt0%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C2cf91312d58b457a474c08d8f1325aa6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524545853654062%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=rFlSvHOXmKjS%2FvKucfQI6tfbpljRFzViMimV0duOqhY%3D=0>
 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Yes, look what has happened with the original Homepod that Apple has now 
discontinued.

I’ve heard the Bose QC headphones, and I have an older pair of the Plantronics 
BeatSense headphones, and for sound quality and design, the Apple Airpods Max 
are far superior to my ears.  Note, to my ears.  I do not say they will be for 
all.
I probably have not stressed it enough, but I feel blessed that I am able to 
afford these.

I bought them with much skepticism, expecting that I would send them back for a 
refund.

But, I am keeping them.
I still have about 27 days left to return them for a refund if something really 
goes south, but I doubt that is going to happen.

The great thing with Apple, and most other companies these days, is you can 
mail order something, and if you decide it isn’t worth it, you can return it 
for a full refund.

That is, if you and the place you ordered it from is in the United States.  I 
cannot speak for other countries.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I agree these are expensive head phones, and I go back and forth myself on 
whether I can justify the cost of these myself, but there are a lot of 
expensive things out there in the world, and if there are enough people that 
think they’re worth it then more power to them and Apple. If the market things 
they’re too expensive then they won’t survive and Apple will move on. There are 
a lot of other nice less expensive options, and no one is being forced to buy 
these head phones against their will. Just because I think something is too 
expensive doesn’t mean that someone else, in a different financial situation, 
and with different priorities, isn’t going to think it’s a steal.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 3:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I would turn off noise cancelation as well.  I just can’t see in spending $700 
or whatever it is 550 650?  Its expensive.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
yes.
With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.
And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C1c592ea83f7e435a430f08d8f2042b6f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637525447012758534%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=IRZ5P28gLhaB2Bv9fxX588zatbA%2FT7IjF5o%2FBVI%2BJA8%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree these are expensive head phones, and I go back and forth myself on 
whether I can justify the cost of these myself, but there are a lot of 
expensive things out there in the world, and if there are enough people that 
think they’re worth it then more power to them and Apple. If the market things 
they’re too expensive then they won’t survive and Apple will move on. There are 
a lot of other nice less expensive options, and no one is being forced to buy 
these head phones against their will. Just because I think something is too 
expensive doesn’t mean that someone else, in a different financial situation, 
and with different priorities, isn’t going to think it’s a steal.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 3:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I would turn off noise cancelation as well.  I just can’t see in spending $700 
or whatever it is 550 650?  Its expensive.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
yes.
With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.
And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cbff32e01e6f94e88339808d8f15d5e44%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524730602049860%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=kbMLxET%2FNLY0x434%2FG9q5vIjrmVKs5IWeeZxCOQbotk%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Dennis Long]

I would turn off noise cancelation as well.  I just can’t see in spending $700 
or whatever it is 550 650?  Its expensive. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
yes.

With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.

And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: Pete Nalda <mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates 

Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Facebook.com/lpnalda

Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda

Twitter: @lpnalda

 

On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cbff32e01e6f94e88339808d8f15d5e44%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524730602049860%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=kbMLxET%2FNLY0x434%2FG9q5vIjrmVKs5IWeeZxCOQbotk%3D=0>
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 

On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, L

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Hi Les,
I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.
A hard reset did the trick.
And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.
Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.
So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C2cf91312d58b457a474c08d8f1325aa6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524545853654062%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=rFlSvHOXmKjS%2FvKucfQI6tfbpljRFzViMimV0duOqhY%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal p

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Joshua,
All electronic products are going to have problems. Thousand dollar computers, 
3 thousand dollar computers, billion dollar space crafts, etc.
The question is whether the problem is resolvable.
In this case it was an easy solution.

I can easily recommend these for those who can afford them.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

Richard, glad you got  your max working correctly.  For $550, they
shouldn't have any problems.

On 3/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
I just did another test.
I called my wife on our land-line from my iPhone while wearing the Airpods
Max.
She couldn’t tell any difference in my voice whether I had Transparency Mode
or Noise Cancelation on.
So it has no impact on how someone hears you on their end.

HTH.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C528202dd0c5b4554848a08d8f16c0112%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524793460110541%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=co7Y9TZ5J2I%2B1%2BLEYdiFGmkSp5p73XjCnFJYEjC60Y4%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C528202dd0c5b4554848a08d8f16c0112%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524793460120501%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=I3gTcw8kZvsmq3IxsV7Zt4snhhb36nqnP2RY3mzAt0o%3Dreserved=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete
Nalda
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I can speak to this, but with the pros. Once I turn on noise canceling to
hear the color better and all the sudden she could not hear me. So I turned
it back off to transparency mode I don’t have yeah nerve to try that with
the max to somebody yet. I think it opens the mics more to be in
transparency mode
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had
a connection problem
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as
it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be.
Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However,
everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the
performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if
I have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C528202dd0c5b4554848a08d8f16c0112%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524793460120501%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=I3gTcw8kZvsmq3IxsV7Zt4snhhb36nqnP2RY3mzAt0o%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C528202dd0c5b4554848a08d

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Richard, glad you got  your max working correctly.  For $550, they
shouldn't have any problems.

On 3/27/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I just did another test.
> I called my wife on our land-line from my iPhone while wearing the Airpods
> Max.
> She couldn’t tell any difference in my voice whether I had Transparency Mode
> or Noise Cancelation on.
> So it has no impact on how someone hears you on their end.
>
> HTH.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete
> Nalda
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
> I can speak to this, but with the pros. Once I turn on noise canceling to
> hear the color better and all the sudden she could not hear me. So I turned
> it back off to transparency mode I don’t have yeah nerve to try that with
> the max to somebody yet. I think it opens the mics more to be in
> transparency mode
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco
> mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:
> 
> If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
> A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had
> a connection problem
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler
> mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be.
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However,
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if
> I have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
> Richard
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume
> on the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate
> your question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

I just did another test.
I called my wife on our land-line from my iPhone while wearing the Airpods Max.
She couldn’t tell any difference in my voice whether I had Transparency Mode or 
Noise Cancelation on.
So it has no impact on how someone hears you on their end.

HTH.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I can speak to this, but with the pros. Once I turn on noise canceling to hear 
the color better and all the sudden she could not hear me. So I turned it back 
off to transparency mode I don’t have yeah nerve to try that with the max to 
somebody yet. I think it opens the mics more to be in transparency mode
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,
Richard
"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our po

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Pete Nalda]

I can speak to this, but with the pros. Once I turn on noise canceling to hear 
the color better and all the sudden she could not hear me. So I turned it back 
off to transparency mode I don’t have yeah nerve to try that with the max to 
somebody yet. I think it opens the mics more to be in transparency mode

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Pete Nalda
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> 
> A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had 
> a connection problem
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
>> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
>> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
>> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
>> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
>> Best,
>> Les
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if 
>> I have a defective set.
>> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
>> I’ll be calling apple today.
>> Richard
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> Hi Richard,
>> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
>> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
>> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
>> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume 
>> on the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate 
>> your question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
>> Best,
>> Les
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>> Les, one question for you since you have them.
>> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
>> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
>> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
>> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
>> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
>> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
>> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
>> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
>> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
>> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was 
>> close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and 
>> listened to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone 
>> call. The person on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no 
>> difficulty hearing him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the 
>> pods working via Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to 
>> them when I wish to use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice 
>> to switch sound output, so I will check that out. I still h

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Pete Nalda]

I am sorry! Someone had come in saying they were having connection problems 
adding another little branch to the thread, I was directing my advice and 
towards them, that maybe they needed to do a hardware reset. That may not fix 
the transparency problem, Although I think it did in that case as well. I got 
the idea of resetting to correct an errant problem. It was a troubleshooting 
step even to me from an Apple article. In my case I did not have my phone 
screen open when I reset them, as I could see the little amber light. It comes 
on during that process. Sorry for the confusion! Back to your regularly 
scheduled programming folks.  

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
> yes.
> With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.
> And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Pete Nalda
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had 
> a connection problem
> 
> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
> Louie P (Pete) Nalda
> Facebook.com/lpnalda
> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> Twitter: @lpnalda
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
> Richard
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
> the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
> question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
> Les
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> On Mar

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

That is a personal choice.  If you want to hear what is happening around you, 
yes.
With noise cancelation on, all you will hear is the person on the phone.
And, the other people I have talked to say I come through loud and clear.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

- Original Message -
From: Pete Nalda<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.
Richard
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cbff32e01e6f94e88339808d8f15d5e44%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524730602049860%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=kbMLxET%2FNLY0x434%2FG9q5vIjrmVKs5IWeeZxCOQbotk%3D=0>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,
Les
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,
Richard
"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do hav

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Andy Baracco]

If you are on a phonecall or zoom call should you turn on transparency?

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Pete Nalda 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours


  A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had 
a connection problem


  Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
  Louie P (Pete) Nalda
  Facebook.com/lpnalda
  Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
  Twitter: @lpnalda


On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:



Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, 
as it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,



Les



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours



That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if 
I have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.









Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, www.turner42.com







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours



Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,



Les



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours



Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,



Richard



"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





  On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

   

  Hi Richard,

  I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised 
how sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was 
close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened 
to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person 
on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing 
him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via 
Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to 
use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, 
so I will check that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but 
that should proceed without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I 
used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off 
over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the 
purchase price back. Not a lot, but everything helps!

  Best,



  Les



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours



  I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding 
them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!



  Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Sm

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Pete Nalda]

A hard reset, holding down crown and noise button might help here too. I had a 
connection problem

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as 
> it was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. 
> Also, I had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, 
> everything is working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the 
> performance of the Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
> have a defective set.
> I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
> I’ll be calling apple today.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Hi Richard,
> I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing 
> aids. With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments 
> coming through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra 
> sound boost from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on 
> the Pods which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your 
> question, as I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> Les, one question for you since you have them.
> Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
> allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
> transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
> I'm just wondering if this is normal.
> Thanks,
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
> to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to 
> the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person 
> on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing 
> him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via 
> Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to 
> use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound 
> output, so I will check that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple 
> Tv’s, but that should proceed without difficulty. They are expensive, but 
> like you, I used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them, except I am 
> paying them off over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as well as getting 
> 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not a lot, but everything helps!
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>  
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch",

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Good news.
For those who have not read earlier message, my new, fabulous, Airpods Max 
developed an issue where sound was coming in the right ear microphones even 
when Noise Cancelation was on.

I called Apple support and the first thing the man had me do was to reset the 
headphones.  You reset them by holding down both the digital crown and the 
noise cancelation button for several seconds.  If you have them connected to 
the phone when you do this you will know they have begun the reset because they 
will disconnect.
Then, poof, they are reconnected and the problem is gone!

That is all it took.
Now, with noise cancelation on, nothing is coming over the microphones from the 
outside world.
Very nice indeed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C2cf91312d58b457a474c08d8f1325aa6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637524545853654062%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=rFlSvHOXmKjS%2FvKucfQI6tfbpljRFzViMimV0duOqhY%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was in

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 

 

 

On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.
I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.
I’ll be calling apple today.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Hi Richard,
I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,

Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler 
mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if y

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living ro

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Simon A Fogarty]

I have  a number of Bluetooth and wired headphoens 
Including the airpods second gen and the airpods pro,
And they work fine when the phone is locked.

>From all my apple airpods and my bose frames I use hey siri to do everything I 
>need,
Be that make a phone call or play music etc.


So if the airpods max aren't working on your phone when it's locked,

You've probably done something wrong

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, 27 March 2021 7:24 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

If you can't use the apple max when your iPhone is locked, I would not get one. 
 I usually lock my iPhone when listening to audio books.  I'm thinking of 
getting a set of anker earbuds.  Anker makes some great products which don't 
cost to much, but work very well.  I also like wearing headphones and don't 
usually wear ear buds, but if I'm out and
about, it would be easier if I stuck some ear buds in my pocket.   Its
great we have so many choices when it comes to bluetooth stuff.

On 3/27/21, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
>
> I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial 
> audio yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it 
> with Hulu. I wonder if Dizney Plus has it?
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
>
>
> Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu 
> has it. I should go double check, because I know there’s at least one 
> other service that has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in 
> for the AirPods Pro, you can just hear a little sample of what it 
> sounds like. And it’s very impressive. So I’m thinking that if it gets 
> adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite awesome. Of course maybe 
> competing services won’t go for it, but why not?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>  Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
> interested in hearing that.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep 
> you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
>
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
>
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and 
> one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into 
> urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi richard,
>
> Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before 
> buying the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what 
> they are.
> I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice 
> wide soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would 
> get on board with it would be awesome.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>  Hi Mary,
>
> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I 
> will use the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer 
> headphones that go over the ear.
>
> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so 
> that they sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
>
> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really 
> in your own little world.
>
> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
>
> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
> noticeable.
>
> Later,
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep 
> you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
>
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
>
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and 
> one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into 
> urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
&

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

The Apple Airpods Max, and any bluetooth earphone or speaker on the planet work 
fine while the iPhone is locked.
Whomever said that they don't was passing along misinformation.
Locking the iPhone has no impact on audio output unless the app you are using 
doesn't allow it. For example, if you do not have a YouTube paid subscription, 
you cannot play anything with the phone locked.
Right now, that is the main one that comes to mind.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

If you can't use the apple max when your iPhone is locked, I would not
get one.  I usually lock my iPhone when listening to audio books.  I'm
thinking of getting a set of anker earbuds.  Anker makes some great
products which don't cost to much, but work very well.  I also like
wearing headphones and don't usually wear ear buds, but if I'm out and
about, it would be easier if I stuck some ear buds in my pocket.   Its
great we have so many choices when it comes to bluetooth stuff.

On 3/27/21, Les Kriegler  wrote:
Hi Mary,

I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial audio
yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it with Hulu. I
wonder if Dizney Plus has it?

Best,



Les



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours



Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has
it. I should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other
service that has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the
AirPods Pro, you can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And
it’s very impressive. So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider
scale, it could be quite awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t
go for it, but why not?



Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very
interested in hearing that.



Richard



"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'

Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of
the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do
it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown









On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying
the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are.
I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board
with it would be awesome.

Mary





Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Mary,

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use
the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go
over the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not
noticeable.

Later,



Richard



"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'

Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of
the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do
it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown









On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range,
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be
getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do
you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very
impressed with spacial audio, but 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If you can't use the apple max when your iPhone is locked, I would not
get one.  I usually lock my iPhone when listening to audio books.  I'm
thinking of getting a set of anker earbuds.  Anker makes some great
products which don't cost to much, but work very well.  I also like
wearing headphones and don't usually wear ear buds, but if I'm out and
about, it would be easier if I stuck some ear buds in my pocket.   Its
great we have so many choices when it comes to bluetooth stuff.

On 3/27/21, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Mary,
>
> I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial audio
> yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it with Hulu. I
> wonder if Dizney Plus has it?
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
>
>
> Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has
> it. I should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other
> service that has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the
> AirPods Pro, you can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And
> it’s very impressive. So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider
> scale, it could be quite awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t
> go for it, but why not?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>  Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very
> interested in hearing that.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
>
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
>
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi richard,
>
> Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying
> the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are.
> I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide
> soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board
> with it would be awesome.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>  Hi Mary,
>
> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use
> the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go
> over the ear.
>
> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they
> sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
>
> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your
> own little world.
>
> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
>
> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not
> noticeable.
>
> Later,
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
>
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
>
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range,
> seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be
> getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do
> you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very
> impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I
> think if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,

I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial audio 
yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it with Hulu. I 
wonder if Dizney Plus has it?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that. 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Mary, 

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm we

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Well, I’ll check and get back to you. Because I have a hearing loss now, I may 
not be able to answer your question. Having said that, I do have Bluetooth 
Hearing aids. I wonder if both devices would work? That might allow for me to 
check this out. It will be an interesting experiment. By the way, after wearing 
hearing aids most of the day, It’s nice to wear something over my ears that 
than having something inside my ears. I’ll get back to you later today.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in t

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

My iPhone is locked, and the Air Pods Max work fine. I have not done anything 
to make that happen that I am aware of. There could be something in Settings on 
your device that may need to be changed.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

The only thing I don't like about it is that you can't use it when the device 
is locked. Unless there's a way to get that working that I haven't discovered? 
hahaha

 

On 3/27/2021 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that. 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.

Mary

 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  wrote:

 Hi Mary, 

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com> 
 wrote:

 

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  wrote:

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Yohandy]

The only thing I don't like about it is that you can't use it when the 
device is locked. Unless there's a way to get that working that I 
haven't discovered? hahaha



On 3/27/2021 12:02 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu 
has it. I should go double check, because I know there’s at least one 
other service that has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in 
for the AirPods Pro, you can just hear a little sample of what it 
sounds like. And it’s very impressive. So I’m thinking that if it gets 
adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite awesome. Of course maybe 
competing services won’t go for it, but why not?



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that.



Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep 
you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're 
retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and 
one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka 
into urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before 
buying the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for 
what they are. I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. 
They have a nice wide soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, 
if others would get on board with it would be awesome.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:


 Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I 
will use the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer 
headphones that go over the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so 
that they sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are 
really in your own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is 
not noticeable.

Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that 
keep you living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're 
retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background 
and one of the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and 
vodka into urine. I do it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- 
Author unknown




On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of 
my range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of 
months and won’t be getting Social Security for another year. So 
I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have AirPods Pro? I ask 
because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with spacial 
audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it 
catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.



Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was 
surprised how very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've 
heard about them, but holding them in your hands for the first 
time, everything about them screams quality!


Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some 
people call the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart 
Bra"; but I would go with pouch.  I don't know if they changed 
the material, but the descriptions I had heard made me think I 
was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of stretchy 
like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, 
this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon. My wife says 
it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a 
purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no 
charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep 
sleep…


Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the 
average headphones but so well designed you don't notice that 
much after putting them on.


Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather 
hits how much I'll want to have them on.


But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works 
with Apple, they are fabulous!


One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency 
Mode.


There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While 
you are listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you 
turn on Transparency mode, those microphones allow you to hear 
the outside world without diminishing the sound quality of 
whatever you are listening to. Unlike 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Les, one question for you since you have them.
Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.
I'm just wondering if this is normal.
Thanks,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:


Hi Richard,
I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!
Best,

Les

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can b

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
> interested in hearing that.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying 
>> the AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. 
>> I don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
>> soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
>> with it would be awesome.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi Mary,
>>> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
>>> the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
>>> over the ear.
>>> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that 
>>> they sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
>>> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in 
>>> your own little world.
>>> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
>>> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
>>> noticeable. 
>>> Later,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
>>> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
>>> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
>>> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
>>> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
>>> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 
 Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my 
 range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and 
 won’t be getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a 
 sale. Smile. Do you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and 
 I’ve been very impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very 
 many places. I think if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely 
 stunning.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
> very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
> screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go 
> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the 
> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of 
> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's 
> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  
> My wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like 
> a purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of 
> its own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting 
> them on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits 
> how much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with 
> Apple, they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very interested 
in hearing that.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Pete Nalda]

Note you can change the volume direction of that crown, I made mine higher to 
the back, as then it feels like I’m turning it clockwise, like you’d do on most 
stereos. I’m impressed at your detailed correlation of all the mics and 
transparency!  Transparency on the iPod pro isn’t nearly as effective. I sort 
of implied this on a post to Mac Visionaries, but not in as much detail. 
Transparency on the AirPod Max is really approaching augmented reality 
territory!  Especially when you turn down the music.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
Facebook.com/lpnalda
Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
> pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
> heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
> stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this 
> one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks 
> odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be 
> quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the 
> headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
> on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
> much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
> they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other 
> things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
> someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>  
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>  
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. 
>  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
> enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>  
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
> is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
> Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
> since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
> with the computer for Jaws.
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the 
> cable even if the battery is dead.
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
> cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that 
> works all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the 
> button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is 
> nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's 
> happening around you more than with it off.
>  
> I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.
>  
> There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
> side of the bar that goes over your head.
> The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
> The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a 
> large version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and 
> playing, and holding it to ask siri.
> That is all I know so far.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Hi richard,
Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi Mary,
> No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
> the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
> over the ear.
> The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
> sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
> I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
> own little world.
> I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
> O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
> noticeable. 
> Later,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
>> seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be 
>> getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do 
>> you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very 
>> impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I 
>> think if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
>>> very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
>>> holding them in your hands for the first time, everything about them 
>>> screams quality!
>>>  
>>> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
>>> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go 
>>> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the 
>>> descriptions I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of 
>>> thing that was kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's 
>>> clothing.  However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My 
>>> wife says it still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a 
>>> purse, but it appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its 
>>> own, it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>>>  
>>> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>>> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
>>> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting 
>>> them on.
>>> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
>>> much I'll want to have them on.
>>>  
>>> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
>>> they are fabulous!
>>>  
>>> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
>>> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
>>> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
>>> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
>>> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike 
>>> other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, 
>>> if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>>>  
>>> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
>>> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
>>> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>>>  
>>> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
>>> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
>>> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some 
>>> music.  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, 
>>> but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>>>  
>>> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
>>> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
>>> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when 
>>> it is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug 
>>> into my Dell laptop.  I have to turn 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I won't be getting any stimilus chec but I'm glad for those that did
get their checks.  The apple max headphones just cost way to much
money for me.
They do sound very cool.  I'll probably save up for a pair of bose
headphones.  Maybe I could get the apple max headphones, but it would
take me quite a while to save up that kind of money.  I'm glad they
are designed so well.  I tried out a pair of sony xm4 headphones that
were supposed to be so good, but they look so cheaply made, I sent
them back for a refund.

On 3/26/21, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how
> sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was
> close to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and
> listened to the Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone
> call. The person on the other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no
> difficulty hearing him as well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the
> pods working via Bluetooth on my PC. I have to switch the sound source to
> them when I wish to use them on my PC. I was informed I could use my voice
> to switch sound output, so I will check that out. I still have set up to do
> for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed without difficulty. They are
> expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our Stimulus check to get them,
> except I am paying them off over six equal payments on my Apple Card, as
> well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not a lot, but
> everything helps!
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours
>
>
>
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>
>
>
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call
> the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go
> with pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions
> I had heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was
> kind of stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.
> However, this one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it
> still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it
> appears to be quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just
> tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>
>
>
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
>
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting
> them on.
>
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how
> much I'll want to have them on.
>
>
>
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple,
> they are fabulous!
>
>
>
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
>
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike
> other things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So,
> if someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left
> side.
>
>
>
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>
>
>
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some
> music.  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background,
> but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>
>
>
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when
> it is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into
> my Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the
> headphones since they take more power to drive th

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

 

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.

But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.

 

I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.

 

There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.

The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/ova

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

They are, and I hope you are sitting down, $549.
And if you want the cable to use them with non-Bluetooth devices its $35.
Apple Care is $59.
So, I'm very blessed to have been able to get them.


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

How much do these miracles cost???
At 07:39 PM 3/26/2021, you wrote:

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!



Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…



Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.



But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!



One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.



Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.



I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.



Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.

But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.



I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.



There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.

The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.

The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a large 
version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and playing, 
and holding it to ask siri.

That is all I know so far.



Later,



















Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.





My web site, 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Ann Byrne]

How much do these miracles cost???
At 07:39 PM 3/26/2021, you wrote:

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed 
them and was surprised how very sturdy and solid 
they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but 
holding them in your hands for the first time, 
everything about them screams quality!




Now, everything I have read about the "smart 
case" which some people call the "smart pouch", 
and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I 
would go with pouch.  I don't know if they 
changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh 
kind of thing that was kind of stretchy like the 
afore mention article of women's 
clothing.  However, this one feels like 
polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it 
still looks odd, and with the headphones in it, 
more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, 
it just tells the headphones to go into a deep sleep…




Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are 
heavier than the average headphones but so well 
designed you don't notice that much after putting them on.


Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when 
the warm weather hits how much I'll want to have them on.




But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind 
of just works with Apple, they are fabulous!




One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the 
headphones.  While you are listening over 
Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on 
Transparency mode, those microphones allow you 
to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening 
to.  Unlike other things I have had that tried 
to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.




Those microphones are used to assist with the 
noise cancelation mode so it can tell what the 
outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when 
Noise Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.




I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when 
my wife turned on the TV in the living room, the 
sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on 
Noise Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV 
while I was listening to some music.  Between 
songs, I could tell something was on in the far 
background, but not enough to identify it or be bothered by it.




Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug 
them into a standard 3.5 MM earphone jack like 
on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It 
is over price.  But, while you do not get the 
fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it is 
running all of it processes, they sound fine for 
speech when plug into my Dell laptop.  I have to 
turn the volume up on the computer or the 
headphones since they take more power to drive 
them, but I could see myself using them with the computer for Jaws.


They apparently do have to be charged to use 
them with the cable even.  Unlike my old 
Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be 
used with the cable even if the battery is dead.


But an interesting note about the Transparency 
Mode when using them with the cable.  There 
appears to be at least one microphone on the 
right ear that works all the time when the cable 
is plugged in.  But, if you press the button 
that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the 
microphones come on.  It is nowhere near as loud 
or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear 
what's happening around you more than with it off.




I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.



There are only two buttons on the right 
ear.  They are on the top on either side of the bar that goes over your head.


The one on the side of the bar nearest your face 
is a rectangular/oval button that toggles 
between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.


The one on the other side of the bar is the 
round, Digital Crown.  Like a large version of 
the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, 
pausing and playing, and holding it to ask siri.


That is all I know so far.



Later,



















Richard



Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow 
any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.






My web site, www.turner42.com







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Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Andy Baracco]

Yesterday I received a notice that mine will be arriving next Friday.  it will 
miss my birthday by 4 days, but it will be 11 days earlier than the date that 
was originally given.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours


  Hi Mary, 
  No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use 
the wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go 
over the ear.
  The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
  I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
  I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
  O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 
  Later,



  Richard


  "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  
  "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
  Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


 
Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my 
range, seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be 
getting Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do 
you have AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very 
impressed with spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think 
if it catches on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.



Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


   
  I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how 
very sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding 
them in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!



  Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call 
the "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…



  Now, as for the headphones themselves…

  I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

  Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits 
how much I'll want to have them on.



  But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with 
Apple, they are fabulous!



  One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

  There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.



  Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so 
it can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.



  I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV 
in the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.



  Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.

 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

Hi Mary,
No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.
The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.
I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.
I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.
O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable.
Later,


Richard

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-
"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?'
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown


On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

Now, as for the headphones themselves…
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.
But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more 

Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Mary Otten]

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
> sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them 
> in your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!
>  
> Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
> "smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
> pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
> heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
> stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this 
> one feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks 
> odd, and with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be 
> quite sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the 
> headphones to go into a deep sleep…
>  
> Now, as for the headphones themselves…
> I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
> headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
> on.
> Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how 
> much I'll want to have them on.
>  
> But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, 
> they are fabulous!
>  
> One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode. 
> There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
> listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
> mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without 
> diminishing the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other 
> things I have had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if 
> someone speaks to you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.
>  
> Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it 
> can tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise 
> Cancelation is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.
>  
> I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in 
> the living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
> Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music. 
>  Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
> enough to identify it or be bothered by it.
>  
> Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
> earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
> price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
> is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
> Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
> since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
> with the computer for Jaws.
> They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  
> Unlike my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the 
> cable even if the battery is dead.
> But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
> cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that 
> works all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the 
> button that toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is 
> nowhere near as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's 
> happening around you more than with it off.
>  
> I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.
>  
> There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
> side of the bar that goes over your head.
> The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
> that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
> The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a 
> large version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and 
> playing, and holding it to ask siri.
> That is all I know so far.
>  
> Later,
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the V 

Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Richard Turner]

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep...

Now, as for the headphones themselves...
I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.
Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.
There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk and when my wife turned on the TV in the 
living room, the sound came over my speakers.  Well, I turned on Noise 
Cancelation, and heard nothing of the TV while I was listening to some music.  
Between songs, I could tell something was on in the far background, but not 
enough to identify it or be bothered by it.

Now, about the $35 cable to allow you to plug them into a standard 3.5 MM 
earphone jack like on Windows computers, Victor Readers, etc.  It is over 
price.  But, while you do not get the fidelity you get over Bluetooth when it 
is running all of it processes, they sound fine for speech when plug into my 
Dell laptop.  I have to turn the volume up on the computer or the headphones 
since they take more power to drive them, but I could see myself using them 
with the computer for Jaws.
They apparently do have to be charged to use them with the cable even.  Unlike 
my old Plantronics Beat Sense headphones that can be used with the cable even 
if the battery is dead.
But an interesting note about the Transparency Mode when using them with the 
cable.  There appears to be at least one microphone on the right ear that works 
all the time when the cable is plugged in.  But, if you press the button that 
toggles to Transparency Mode, all the microphones come on.  It is nowhere near 
as loud or clear as when on Bluetooth, but you can hear what's happening around 
you more than with it off.

I plan to run them through their paces and see how long the battery does last.

There are only two buttons on the right ear.  They are on the top on either 
side of the bar that goes over your head.
The one on the side of the bar nearest your face is a rectangular/oval button 
that toggles between Noise Cancelation and Transparency Mode.
The one on the other side of the bar is the round, Digital Crown.  Like a large 
version of the one on the watch.  That is used for volume, pausing and playing, 
and holding it to ask siri.
That is all I know so far.

Later,









Richard

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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Joseph Hudson]

OK, that's the way I did it and that worked.

> On Feb 16, 2021, at 2:38 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
> 
> Yes, with the Airpods in the case and the lid on the case open. I tested this 
> out just the other day with my S7.
> 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 2:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>> 
>> Hey, I'll give this a try. I assume that I do this with the case open?
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Joseph and all,
>>> 
>>> Joseph, have you tried resesting your airPod pros by pressing and holding 
>>> the
>> little button on the back of the Case for about 10 seconds or so? This should
>> bring them back to pairing mode. Don't know if you have tried that or not. 
>> Also,
>> I tried a third-party cable and no go.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to 
>>>> pair them
>> with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. Could
>> you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this purpose. 
>> But I
>> can't seem to keep them good in my ears.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone
>> and my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume 
>> it
>> would work, although I do agree with Brad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>>>>> 
>>>>> My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple
>> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
>> your
>> Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other AirPod
>> model with the Trek as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair
>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original
>> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader 
>> Trek,
>> they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Joseph Hudson]

OK awesome, that worked. I was able to get them paired. The only thing that was 
wrong, what's the timing. I had to hold the button down for about 30 seconds 
before my phone saw them.

> On Feb 14, 2021, at 9:48 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
> 
> Sure, place your Airpod Pro's in their case. Open the case without taking out 
> the Airpod Pro's. Hold the round button in for about ten seconds to place 
> them in pairing mode.
> 
> Now, on your Android phone, go into Settings -> Connectivity -> Bluetooth and 
> look for your Airpod Pro's. You may need to double tap on the scan button at 
> the top before they'll show up.
> 
> Here's some more information 
> https://www.gearbest.com/blog/how-to/how-to-connect-apple-airpods-pro-with-android-devices-9043#:~:text=Step%201:%20First,%20open%20the%20lid%20of%20the,device%20to%20the%20Android,%20just%20do%20the%20opposite.
> 
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Joseph Hudson
>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 4:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>> 
>> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to pair 
>> them
>> with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. Could
>> you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this purpose. 
>> But I
>> can't seem to keep them good in my ears.
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone and
>> my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume it
>> would work, although I do agree with Brad.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Brad Snyder
>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple
>> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
>> your
>> Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other AirPod
>> model with the Trek as well.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair
>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original
>> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader 
>> Trek,
>> they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
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RE: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[chalt...@outlook.com]

Yes, with the Airpods in the case and the lid on the case open. I tested this 
out just the other day with my S7.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 2:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> 
> Hey, I'll give this a try. I assume that I do this with the case open?
> 
> > On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joseph and all,
> >
> > Joseph, have you tried resesting your airPod pros by pressing and holding 
> > the
> little button on the back of the Case for about 10 seconds or so? This should
> bring them back to pairing mode. Don't know if you have tried that or not. 
> Also,
> I tried a third-party cable and no go.
> >
> > Jenn
> >
> > Jenn and Kumi
> >
> >> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to 
> >> pair them
> with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. Could
> you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this purpose. 
> But I
> can't seem to keep them good in my ears.
> >>
> >>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone
> and my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume it
> would work, although I do agree with Brad.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> >>> Chaltain at Outlook
> >>>
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf Of Brad Snyder
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> >>>
> >>> My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple
> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
> your
> Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other AirPod
> model with the Trek as well.
> >>>
> >>> - Brad -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair
> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original
> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader Trek,
> they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Joseph Hudson]

Hey, I'll give this a try. I assume that I do this with the case open?

> On Feb 14, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph and all,
> 
> Joseph, have you tried resesting your airPod pros by pressing and holding the 
> little button on the back of the Case for about 10 seconds or so? This should 
> bring them back to pairing mode. Don't know if you have tried that or not. 
> Also, I tried a third-party cable and no go. 
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to pair 
>> them with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. 
>> Could you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this 
>> purpose. But I can't seem to keep them good in my ears. 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone 
>>> and my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume 
>>> it would work, although I do agree with Brad.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
>>> Snyder
>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple 
>>> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
>>> your Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other 
>>> AirPod model with the Trek as well.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
>>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the 
>>> original Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor 
>>> Reader Trek, they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
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RE: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[chalt...@outlook.com]

Sure, place your Airpod Pro's in their case. Open the case without taking out 
the Airpod Pro's. Hold the round button in for about ten seconds to place them 
in pairing mode.

Now, on your Android phone, go into Settings -> Connectivity -> Bluetooth and 
look for your Airpod Pro's. You may need to double tap on the scan button at 
the top before they'll show up.

Here's some more information 
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/how-to/how-to-connect-apple-airpods-pro-with-android-devices-9043#:~:text=Step%201:%20First,%20open%20the%20lid%20of%20the,device%20to%20the%20Android,%20just%20do%20the%20opposite.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> 
> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to pair 
> them
> with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. Could
> you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this purpose. 
> But I
> can't seem to keep them good in my ears.
> 
> > On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
> >
> > I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone and
> my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume it
> would work, although I do agree with Brad.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Outlook
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Brad Snyder
> > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> >
> > My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple
> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
> your
> Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other AirPod
> model with the Trek as well.
> >
> > - Brad -
> >
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> >
> > I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair
> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original
> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader Trek,
> they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
> >
> > Andy
> >
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Joseph and all,

Joseph, have you tried resesting your airPod pros by pressing and holding the 
little button on the back of the Case for about 10 seconds or so? This should 
bring them back to pairing mode. Don't know if you have tried that or not. 
Also, I tried a third-party cable and no go. 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> I have a pair of the AirPods pros. And I think that be kind of cool to pair 
> them with my android phone. However, I have been unsuccessful in doing so. 
> Could you send me instructions off list? I bought the pixel buds for this 
> purpose. But I can't seem to keep them good in my ears. 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 3:32 PM, chalt...@outlook.com wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve paired my Airpod Pros with non-Apple devices, like my Android phone and 
>> my PC running Windows. I don’t have the Max’s or a Trek, but I’d assume it 
>> would work, although I do agree with Brad.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>> 
>> My understanding is that, yes, the AirPods Pro Max can pair with non-Apple 
>> devices.  However, if you have a problem pairing your original AirPods with 
>> your Trek, I would expect you will also have a problem pairing any other 
>> AirPod model with the Trek as well.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 13:46, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original 
>> Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader 
>> Trek, they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Brad Snyder]

Only the specialized cable from Apple will work for connecting AirPods Max with 
3.5 mm jack.

- Brad -


On Feb 14, 2021, at 13:38, Andy Baracco  wrote:

Use 3rd party cables at your own risk.
 
Andy
 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:11 AM
> Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Pro Max
> 
> Such cables are available for much less on Amazon or probably also places 
> like Best Buy.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>  
> it is a lightning to 3.5 mm cable.  As far as i know, it does not come with 
> the headset, and you can only get it from Apple.
>  
> Andy
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Marie <mailto:scribbles...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 10:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>>  
>> What sort of cable is used to connect via wire to a Victor device? This 
>> could go further to convince me they are worth the price.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Jennie Facer 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 6:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max
>>  
>> I love these things. They fit my ears really well, and though they feel 
>> heavy at first, once they are on my head, they fit wonderfully. I also do 
>> not see why you could not use them outdoors. The ear cups are not water 
>> proof, but the outside of them is made with illuminum. I think they are 
>> cool, but again you have to be looking at the price as well to see if they 
>> will fit comfortably. 
>> You can get a cable from apple to wire your victor readers and that with 
>> them. It does not come with it though. It should if you ask me.
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Andy Baracco >> <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
>>> them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the 
>>> original Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor 
>>> Reader Trek, they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.
>>>  
>>> Andy
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Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

[Andy Baracco]

Use 3rd party cables at your own risk.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:11 AM
  Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Pro Max


  Such cables are available for much less on Amazon or probably also places 
like Best Buy.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

   

  it is a lightning to 3.5 mm cable.  As far as i know, it does not come with 
the headset, and you can only get it from Apple.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: Marie 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

 

What sort of cable is used to connect via wire to a Victor device? This 
could go further to convince me they are worth the price.

Marie

 

 

From: Jennie Facer 

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 6:23 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Pro Max

 

I love these things. They fit my ears really well, and though they feel 
heavy at first, once they are on my head, they fit wonderfully. I also do not 
see why you could not use them outdoors. The ear cups are not water proof, but 
the outside of them is made with illuminum. I think they are cool, but again 
you have to be looking at the price as well to see if they will fit 
comfortably. 

You can get a cable from apple to wire your victor readers and that with 
them. It does not come with it though. It should if you ask me.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi





  On Feb 12, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

   

  I am considering buying the Airpods pro Max.  My question is can you pair 
them with a non Apple device like a Victor Reader Trek?  I have the original 
Airpods, and even though they show as being paired with my Victor Reader Trek, 
they will not play content sent to them via bluetooth.

   

  Andy

   

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