Re: Editing text in a document

[Duane Steele]

Thanks Richard and Anna,

All that you have suggested is helpful, and I appreciate your getting me 
through a "senior moment".  All is appreciated.


Peace & Blessings,
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> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it works the same with a braille device or qwerty keyboard.
> My method of choice is to use the Text Selection option on the rotor.
> It is not on the rotor by default so you may have to go to the rotor settings 
> and select it.
> Get to the start of the text you want to copy.
> Turn the rotor to text selection.  You can use spacebar plus dots 2,3 or 5,6 
> to turn the rotor.
> Then, use space+dot3 or 6 to navigate to the unit of text you wish to select, 
> characters, words, line, page, or select all.
> Once you have your choice made, use space+dot 4 to select forward.
> When done selecting, turn the rotor to edit, then up or down to copy and 
> activate with space+dots 3,6.
> Go to the other document, make sure it is editing, turn the rotor to edit, 
> navigate to paste and press space+dots 3,6.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:43 PM
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> Subject: Editing text in a document
> 
> Hello iPhone friends,
> 
> I'm sure this topic's been covered before. But I'm having a "senior" moment. 
> I need to cut and paste some text into a document, and I'm using the Notes 
> file on the phone. Can someone remind me how to select blocks of text and 
> either cut or paste them into a separate document. For example, if I want to 
> delete a paragraph in a document and replace it with another from somewhere 
> else, is this possible using a Braille device? Thanks for any help you can 
> give me.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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RE: Editing text in a document

[Richard Turner]

Yes, it works the same with a braille device or qwerty keyboard.
My method of choice is to use the Text Selection option on the rotor.
It is not on the rotor by default so you may have to go to the rotor settings 
and select it.
Get to the start of the text you want to copy.
Turn the rotor to text selection.  You can use spacebar plus dots 2,3 or 5,6 to 
turn the rotor.
Then, use space+dot3 or 6 to navigate to the unit of text you wish to select, 
characters, words, line, page, or select all.
Once you have your choice made, use space+dot 4 to select forward.
When done selecting, turn the rotor to edit, then up or down to copy and 
activate with space+dots 3,6.
Go to the other document, make sure it is editing, turn the rotor to edit, 
navigate to paste and press space+dots 3,6.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:43 PM
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Subject: Editing text in a document

Hello iPhone friends,

I'm sure this topic's been covered before. But I'm having a "senior" moment. I 
need to cut and paste some text into a document, and I'm using the Notes file 
on the phone. Can someone remind me how to select blocks of text and either cut 
or paste them into a separate document. For example, if I want to delete a 
paragraph in a document and replace it with another from somewhere else, is 
this possible using a Braille device? Thanks for any help you can give me.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Editing text in a document

[Anna Dresner]

Hello Duane,

With a braille display, you can set the rotor to characters, words, or lines. 
Then press Space with dots 256 to select text by the amount you chose, or Space 
with dots 235 to deselect by the same amount if you overshot. Press Space with 
C to copy the selected text, or Space with X to cut it. Press Space with V to 
paste.

You can also use the select Text option on the rotor. Flick up or down to the 
unit you want to select, and flick right to select or left to deselect.

HTH,
Anna


> On Apr 26, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Hello iPhone friends,
> 
> I'm sure this topic's been covered before. But I'm having a "senior" moment. 
> I need to cut and paste some text into a document, and I'm using the Notes 
> file on the phone. Can someone remind me how to select blocks of text and 
> either cut or paste them into a separate document. For example, if I want to 
> delete a paragraph in a document and replace it with another from somewhere 
> else, is this possible using a Braille device? Thanks for any help you can 
> give me.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Editing text in a document

[Duane Steele]

Hello iPhone friends,

I'm sure this topic's been covered before. But I'm having a "senior" moment. I 
need to cut and paste some text into a document, and I'm using the Notes file 
on the phone. Can someone remind me how to select blocks of text and either cut 
or paste them into a separate document. For example, if I want to delete a 
paragraph in a document and replace it with another from somewhere else, is 
this possible using a Braille device? Thanks for any help you can give me.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Editing text message

[Giller, Anna]

Hello!
I'm trying to delete a sentence or possibly just a few words in the middle of 
the text message. How to select it? I only know how to select either a single 
word or a whole text.
Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Editing text

[Monica Jones]

If you are new, I understand what you mean. However, if you can catch on to 
the method in IOS9, it is much easier than the way we used to have to do it 
with pinches. It will take some practice. I'm willing to help if I can.



-Original Message- 
From: Harry Bell

Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:39 AM
To: Abridged Recipients
Subject: Editing text

I'm struggling to learn how to edit text using VO in emails or notes. Can 
anyone point me to a help section somewhere? I have found the applevis 
podcast on iOS 9 text selection, which sounds a bit complicated to master: 
is there another method? Thanks. Harry iOS 9.2 on iPhone 5s


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Re: Editing text

[Michelle Bernstein]

Hi Harry,
 
As a novice with any type of assistive technology myself, I have found the 
clear and concise detailed instructions from the Voiceover Easy Net website 
a big help in learning basic skills with voiceover.
 
Here is the link to Lesson 3 which is titled "Editing Text":
http://www.voiceover-easy.net/Basics/Lesson3.aspx
 
If you have two devices or a pc and an apple device, it helps to pull up 
this lesson on one device and practice on the other.
Hope this helps.
 
Regards, Michelle Bernstein
 
On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 6:39:40 AM UTC-5, Harry Bell wrote:

> I'm struggling to learn how to edit text using VO in emails or notes. Can 
> anyone point me to a help section somewhere? I have found the applevis 
> podcast on iOS 9 text selection, which sounds a bit complicated to master: 
> is there another method? Thanks. Harry iOS 9.2 on iPhone 5s 
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Re: Editing text

[Harry Bell]

Thanks, Michelle! Just what I need! H

> On 17 Jan 2016, at 18:40, Michelle Bernstein <hamletsweetl...@gmail.com> 
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> --=_Part_233_167129205.1453056020581
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> 
> Hi Harry,
> 
> As a novice with any type of assistive technology myself, I have found the 
> clear and concise detailed instructions from the Voiceover Easy Net website 
> a big help in learning basic skills with voiceover.
> 
> Here is the link to Lesson 3 which is titled "Editing Text":
> http://www.voiceover-easy.net/Basics/Lesson3.aspx
> 
> If you have two devices or a pc and an apple device, it helps to pull up 
> this lesson on one de

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Editing text

[Harry Bell]

I'm struggling to learn how to edit text using VO in emails or notes. Can 
anyone point me to a help section somewhere? I have found the applevis podcast 
on iOS 9 text selection, which sounds a bit complicated to master: is there 
another method? Thanks. Harry iOS 9.2 on iPhone 5s

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Re: Editing text

[Devin Prater]

If you like manuals, maybe the iPhone manual, in the accessibility section, can 
explain all this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2016, at 5:39 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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> I'm struggling to learn how to edit text using VO in emails or notes. Can 
> anyone point me to a help section somewhere? I have found the applevis 
> podcast on iOS 9 text selection, which sounds a bit complicated to master: is 
> there another method? Thanks. Harry iOS 9.2 on iPhone 5s
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Re: Editing text with Braille Displalythe.7+ key does not work for me. I have also tried grabbing the cursor button with the braille display, and nothing happened. I do not know how to edit this. I ty

[Jennie Facer]

Jenn and Kumi




On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM -0800, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:










There are probably a few ways to do it.
If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
Switch off contracted Braille;
Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
Go to the line the offending character's on;
press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
press d-chord to delete.

-Original Message- 
From: Robbie Miller
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing text with Braille Display

Hello All,
I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
cursor is routed to the corresponding character.

How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?

Thanks.

Robbie

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Re: Editing text with Braille Displalythe.7+ key does not work for me. I have also tried grabbing the cursor button with the braille display, and nothing happened. I do not know how to edit this. I ty

[Flor Lynch]

First navigate to the line your editing is on at that point. In the editing 
area use the Rotor settings to help you and on the display tap the cursor 
button 1 to the right of the braille character you want to edit or start 
editing from. (Use uncontracted Braille.)

From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 12:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text with Braille Displalythe.7+ key does not work for 
me. I have also tried grabbing the cursor button with the braille display, 
and nothing happened. I do not know how to edit this. I typed minutes for a 
meeting I attend, and I cannot seem to get them to edit.


Jenn and Kumi





On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM -0800, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:


There are probably a few ways to do it.
If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
Switch off contracted Braille;
Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
Go to the line the offending character's on;
press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
press d-chord to delete.

-Original Message- 
From: Robbie Miller
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing text with Braille Display

Hello All,
I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
cursor is routed to the corresponding character.

How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?

Thanks.

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


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Re: Editing text with Braille Displalythe.7+ key does not work for me. I have also tried grabbing the cursor button with the braille display, and nothing happened. I do not know how to edit this. I ty

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

You have to use the space bar with dot 7.  This cord acts  like the backspace.

Sharonda
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 On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Jenn and Kumi
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:01 PM -0800, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 There are probably a few ways to do it.
 If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
 Switch off contracted Braille;
 Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
 Go to the line the offending character's on;
 press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
 press d-chord to delete.
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Robbie Miller
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Editing text with Braille Display
 
 Hello All,
 I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
 cursor is routed to the corresponding character.
 
 How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robbie
 
 millerrob...@comcast.net
 
 
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Re: Editing text with Braille Display

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, thank you! My mistake. I've been using a Braille Lite lately and got a 
little mixed up.

Teresa

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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I believe you add the spacebar with dot 7 
 
 Sharonda
 Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 You can also press dot 7 to delete the character to' the left of the cursor.
 
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
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 with the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 There are probably a few ways to do it.
 If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
 Switch off contracted Braille;
 Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
 Go to the line the offending character's on;
 press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
 press d-chord to delete.
 
 -Original Message- From: Robbie Miller
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Editing text with Braille Display
 
 Hello All,
 I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
 cursor is routed to the corresponding character.
 
 How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robbie
 
 millerrob...@comcast.net
 
 
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Re: Editing text with Braille Display

[Teresa Cochran]

You can also press dot 7 to delete the character to' the left of the cursor.


HtH,
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 On Mar 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 There are probably a few ways to do it.
 If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
 Switch off contracted Braille;
 Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
 Go to the line the offending character's on;
 press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
 press d-chord to delete.
 
 -Original Message- From: Robbie Miller
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Editing text with Braille Display
 
 Hello All,
 I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
 cursor is routed to the corresponding character.
 
 How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robbie
 
 millerrob...@comcast.net
 
 
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Re: Editing text with Braille Display

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I believe you add the spacebar with dot 7 

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

 On Mar 1, 2015, at 5:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 You can also press dot 7 to delete the character to' the left of the cursor.
 
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
 the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Mar 1, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 There are probably a few ways to do it.
 If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
 Switch off contracted Braille;
 Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
 Go to the line the offending character's on;
 press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
 press d-chord to delete.
 
 -Original Message- From: Robbie Miller
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Editing text with Braille Display
 
 Hello All,
 I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
 cursor is routed to the corresponding character.
 
 How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Robbie
 
 millerrob...@comcast.net
 
 
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RE: Editing text with Braille Display

[Robbie Miller]

Hi, I'm editing now, thanks.

Robbie.

millerrob...@comcast.net


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There are probably a few ways to do it.
If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
Switch off contracted Braille;
Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
Go to the line the offending character's on; press the cursor button on the 
display corresponding to the character, press d-chord to delete.

-Original Message-
From: Robbie Miller
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing text with Braille Display

Hello All,
I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the 
cursor is routed to the corresponding character.

How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?

Thanks.

Robbie

millerrob...@comcast.net


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Editing text with Braille Display

[Robbie Miller]

Hello All, 
I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
cursor is routed to the corresponding character. 

How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?

Thanks. 

Robbie 

millerrob...@comcast.net


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Re: Editing text with Braille Display

[Flor Lynch]

There are probably a few ways to do it.
If doing it by Braille, What I do is:
Switch off contracted Braille;
Turn the Rotor to characters or words;
Go to the line the offending character's on;
press the cursor button on the display corresponding to the character,
press d-chord to delete.

-Original Message- 
From: Robbie Miller

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing text with Braille Display

Hello All,
I have a Focus 40 Braille display.  When I press a cursor routing key, the
cursor is routed to the corresponding character.

How do you delete incorrect characters, and insert the correct ones?

Thanks.

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Re: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text

[RobH.]

iOs always seems to delete to the left.  Cursor is always beyond the last 
item read, pretty well regardless of direction.  I mean,  if you're flicking 
down to work along the text, the last word or letter will then be behind, or 
left of the cursor.  If you flick up to work back through the text, the 
cursor will be to the left of the last thing spoken.  That is more 
comnfusing when you're trying to back up to correct it by deleting 
something. This can perhaps be proved if you double tap on a text field and 
it says - start of text, or end of text.  Go to start of text, cursor should 
be against the end and thus, left of the first character.  Try delete from 
there, it shouldn't delete anything as there is, well, nothing to the left 
of that point.
I used to find navigation confusing when you flick up and down to wiggle the 
cursor  either way and it seems to repeat the same word or character.  But 
it would if it says what it skips over to move to the left, or right of it.

RobH.

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From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) steven.hi...@nhs.net
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:47 AM
Subject: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text


Hello friends,

I wonder if someone is able to confirm something quickly for me please?
I have been practicing with a text message open in the edit field and 
flicking around the message to edit it but I can's seem to make any logic on 
where the cursur lands and when you click delete on the keyboard, exactly 
what it is going to delete if this makes any sense?
On my PC, the cursor goes in front of the letter that I will delete when 
pressing backspace and if I press delete, it  will delete the character that 
I am on but VO seems to do it differently on an Apple device?

Many thanks in anticipation,

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Re: IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text

[Alex Hall]

The cursor on iOS devices can be thought of as always being between two 
characters. If you're moving backward, your cursor is before whatever VoiceOver 
reads; if you move forward, it is after what you hear. That's why, if you move 
back a character and then forward a character, you hear that character twice, 
once as you pass it one way, and again as you go back the other way.

Deleting always moves left. So, if you move forward a character and then 
delete, you will erase the character you just heard spoken. If you move back a 
character and delete, you will erase whatever is left of the character you just 
heard, since your cursor is now left of the character and you are deleting 
left. I hope this makes sense.
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
 steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
 
 Hello friends,
  
 I wonder if someone is able to confirm something quickly for me please?
 I have been practicing with a text message open in the edit field and 
 flicking around the message to edit it but I can's seem to make any logic on 
 where the cursur lands and when you click delete on the keyboard, exactly 
 what it is going to delete if this makes any sense?
 On my PC, the cursor goes in front of the letter that I will delete when 
 pressing backspace and if I press delete, it  will delete the character that 
 I am on but VO seems to do it differently on an Apple device?
  
 Many thanks in anticipation,
  
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IPhone 5s, And IOS 8.1.2 Editing Text

[Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)]

Hello friends,

I wonder if someone is able to confirm something quickly for me please?
I have been practicing with a text message open in the edit field and flicking 
around the message to edit it but I can's seem to make any logic on where the 
cursur lands and when you click delete on the keyboard, exactly what it is 
going to delete if this makes any sense?
On my PC, the cursor goes in front of the letter that I will delete when 
pressing backspace and if I press delete, it  will delete the character that I 
am on but VO seems to do it differently on an Apple device?

Many thanks in anticipation,

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Re: editing text

[Keith Watson]

Try Drafts out. You can create and append to Dropbox as well as many other 
sites like FaceBook, Twitter and my favorite, OmniFocus.

Keith

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 Eileen, that is fine. It was $3.99. I am just beginning to work with it. I 
 will let you know how it works. Thanks!
 
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 Hi Marianne,
 
 First, let me apologize for not getting your name correct in the last post 
 to you. I am not sure how much this app cost, but I don't think it's over 
 $5. I could be wrong because I purchased it so long ago. Another list member 
 recommended it and it was exactly what I needed because I am on the road a 
 fair amount of time after providing training to my clients. I hope you enjoy 
 this app as much as I do.
 
 Kind regards, 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Eileen, that sounds great.  I think I will give that one a try.  I am
 working with a student and I am teaching him to use technology to
 complete assignments.  I have created a Drop Box folder that several
 people who work with him share.
 
 On 1/28/14, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isaac, a Google search suggests that Text Expander integration is
 possible, but if I limit my Google search to the Simplenote site, I
 come up with nothing.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/28/14, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about text expander.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 last evaluation I could find was from 2010.  Does it still work well?
 Is anyone editing documents with it using a braille key board?
 
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I need a text editor that will sync with Dropbox so a document can be
edited on both Windows and I O S.  I am thinking of Drop Text but the
last evaluation I could find was from 2010.  Does it still work well?
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Re: editing text

[Craig Werner]

Marianne, there is a quite active thread on viphone right now that you
may find helpful.  It's entitled Looking for Text Editor that Syncs
with Dropbox.

Craig

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Re: editing text

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What about text expander.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: editing text

[Craig Werner]

Isaac, a Google search suggests that Text Expander integration is
possible, but if I limit my Google search to the Simplenote site, I
come up with nothing.

Craig

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 What about text expander.

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Re: editing text

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Mary,

I use NoteMaster. I like it because it will save my docs in DOCX format. 
Hence, when I open up DropBox in Win 7, I can do all the editing that I can't 
find in iText Express on the Mac. In that program on the Mac, I save the doc as 
a DOCX and save it to DropBox. . This has been my work around since I don't 
have a virtual machine running on my Mac. I also work out in the field and on 
the phone I am able to complete some of my paperwork before returning home. All 
I need to do is to open DropBox on the PC side and I'm good to go. HTH.

Best,
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

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 come up with nothing.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/28/14, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about text expander.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
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Re: editing text

[Marianne Denning]

Eileen, that sounds great.  I think I will give that one a try.  I am
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On 1/28/14, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
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 come up with nothing.

 Craig

 On 1/28/14, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about text expander.

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Re: editing text

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Hi Marianne,

First, let me apologize for not getting your name correct in the last post to 
you. I am not sure how much this app cost, but I don't think it's over $5. I 
could be wrong because I purchased it so long ago. Another list member 
recommended it and it was exactly what I needed because I am on the road a fair 
amount of time after providing training to my clients. I hope you enjoy this 
app as much as I do.

Kind regards, 
Eileen 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 Eileen, that sounds great.  I think I will give that one a try.  I am
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 complete assignments.  I have created a Drop Box folder that several
 people who work with him share.
 
 On 1/28/14, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isaac, a Google search suggests that Text Expander integration is
 possible, but if I limit my Google search to the Simplenote site, I
 come up with nothing.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/28/14, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about text expander.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:
 
 I need a text editor that will sync with Dropbox so a document can be
 edited on both Windows and I O S.  I am thinking of Drop Text but the
 last evaluation I could find was from 2010.  Does it still work well?
 Is anyone editing documents with it using a braille key board?
 
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[Marianne Denning]

Eileen, that is fine. It was $3.99. I am just beginning to work with it. I will 
let you know how it works. Thanks!

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 First, let me apologize for not getting your name correct in the last post to 
 you. I am not sure how much this app cost, but I don't think it's over $5. I 
 could be wrong because I purchased it so long ago. Another list member 
 recommended it and it was exactly what I needed because I am on the road a 
 fair amount of time after providing training to my clients. I hope you enjoy 
 this app as much as I do.
 
 Kind regards, 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:
 
 Eileen, that sounds great.  I think I will give that one a try.  I am
 working with a student and I am teaching him to use technology to
 complete assignments.  I have created a Drop Box folder that several
 people who work with him share.
 
 On 1/28/14, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isaac, a Google search suggests that Text Expander integration is
 possible, but if I limit my Google search to the Simplenote site, I
 come up with nothing.
 
 Craig
 
 On 1/28/14, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about text expander.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:
 
 I need a text editor that will sync with Dropbox so a document can be
 edited on both Windows and I O S.  I am thinking of Drop Text but the
 last evaluation I could find was from 2010.  Does it still work well?
 Is anyone editing documents with it using a braille key board?
 
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Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[Mary Otten]

Because I am still on iOS 6, I have not yet experienced this difference. 
However, I believe I would prefer voice over not to break up the speech and 
read things strangely. I find I can catch most of the dictation errors by 
carefully listening to the speech as it is read back to me in my dictated 
messages. This would be much harder if words and letters were broken up and 
pronounced strangely.
Mary


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On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:44 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard 
 text. For the sighted, this makes it easier to tell which text has been 
 changed, and which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using 
 speech recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know 
 which words iOS is unsure of and what changes have been made, or VO has 
 pauses / changes so we know which changes have been made and which words iOS 
 is unsure of, but we get broken speech. I figured this out a couple weeks 
 ago, and personally prefer VO reading the highlighted / changed text 
 differently.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:27, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had 
 dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation 
 but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes 
 as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess. 
  Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.  
 Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of 
 characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in 
 one of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the 
 sensitivity bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer 
 have the sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has 
 anyone experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin 
 reading the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
 Take care,
 Ed Przybylek
  
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RE: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi David,
 
Is there any way to change this so that VoiceOver does not read the
highlighted text?  Thanks.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields
 
It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard
text. For the sighted, this makes it easier to tell which text has been
changed, and which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using
speech recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know
which words iOS is unsure of and what changes have been made, or VO has
pauses / changes so we know which changes have been made and which words iOS
is unsure of, but we get broken speech. I figured this out a couple weeks
ago, and personally prefer VO reading the highlighted / changed text
differently.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:27, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Hi all,
 
Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had
dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation
but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes
as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess.
Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.
Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of
characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in
one of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the
sensitivity bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer
have the sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has
anyone experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin
reading the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 
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Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[David Chittenden]

Not that I have been able to locate. Send an email to access ability at 
Apple.com and request the feature.

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 Hi David,
  
 Is there any way to change this so that VoiceOver does not read the 
 highlighted text?  Thanks.
  
 Take care,
 Ed Przybylek
  
  
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 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:45 PM
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 Subject: Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields
  
 It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard 
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 changed, and which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using 
 speech recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know 
 which words iOS is unsure of and what changes have been made, or VO has 
 pauses / changes so we know which changes have been made and which words iOS 
 is unsure of, but we get broken speech. I figured this out a couple weeks 
 ago, and personally prefer VO reading the highlighted / changed text 
 differently.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:27, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had 
 dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation 
 but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes 
 as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess.  
 Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.  
 Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of 
 characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in one 
 of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the sensitivity 
 bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer have the 
 sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has anyone 
 experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin reading 
 the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
 Take care,
 Ed Przybylek
  
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RE: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi David,
 
Sounds like a plan.  They're my next email.  Thanks.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 
 
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Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields
 
Not that I have been able to locate. Send an email to access ability at
Apple.com and request the feature.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Oct 2013, at 5:18, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Hi David,
 
Is there any way to change this so that VoiceOver does not read the
highlighted text?  Thanks.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 
 
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Of David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields
 
It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard
text. For the sighted, this makes it easier to tell which text has been
changed, and which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using
speech recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know
which words iOS is unsure of and what changes have been made, or VO has
pauses / changes so we know which changes have been made and which words iOS
is unsure of, but we get broken speech. I figured this out a couple weeks
ago, and personally prefer VO reading the highlighted / changed text
differently.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:27, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Hi all,
 
Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had
dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation
but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes
as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess.
Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.
Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of
characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in
one of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the
sensitivity bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer
have the sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has
anyone experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin
reading the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 
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Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi all,
 
Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had
dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation
but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes
as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess.
Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.
Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of
characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in
one of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the
sensitivity bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer
have the sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has
anyone experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin
reading the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
Take care,
Ed Przybylek
 

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Re: Problem When Editing Text In Text Fields

[David Chittenden]

It looks like VO is reading the highlights differently from the standard text. 
For the sighted, this makes it easier to tell which text has been changed, and 
which text iOS is unsure was translated correctly when using speech 
recognition. Either, VO ignores the highlighting, and we do not know which 
words iOS is unsure of and what changes have been made, or VO has pauses / 
changes so we know which changes have been made and which words iOS is unsure 
of, but we get broken speech. I figured this out a couple weeks ago, and 
personally prefer VO reading the highlighted / changed text differently.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:27, Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 Back when I updated to iOS 7, I had a problem when editing text I had 
 dictated into a text field.  The text would read just fine after dictation 
 but, when I navigated through the text character by character making changes 
 as I went, it caused VoiceOver to read the updated text as a scrambled mess.  
 Many of the words that had not been changed in any way read just find.  
 Edited words would read as partial words followed by characters or groups of 
 characters that had been changed in the text.  The problem disappeared in one 
 of the following iOS updates but it was at about that time the sensitivity 
 bug was introduced.  With my upgrade to iOS 7.0.3, I no longer have the 
 sensitivity problem but the original problem is back again.  Has anyone 
 experience this problem?  If so, how did you get VoiceOver to begin reading 
 the text field correctly again?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
  
 Take care,
 Ed Przybylek
  
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the define button when editing text

[Dan Beaver GMail]

Hi,

I was reading and found a description of using the dictionary that comes with 
the i phone.

It states that if you hold your finger on a word a bar appears that lets you 
press the define button.  this will bring up a definition of the word.

How do you do this with V O?

I can't seem to get it to work.

thanks.

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Re: the define button when editing text

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Find the word you want to define and then double-tap and hold. A menu will come 
up, one of the options of which is Define.

Best,
Anna



On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dan Beaver GMail dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I was reading and found a description of using the dictionary that comes with 
 the i phone.
  
 It states that if you hold your finger on a word a bar appears that lets you 
 press the define button.  this will bring up a definition of the word.
  
 How do you do this with V O?
  
 I can't seem to get it to work.
  
 thanks.
  
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Re: the define button when editing text

[David Chittenden]

Use the double tap and hold pass through gesture. Hold until you hear the 
triple tone sound. Remove your finger and the option should appear. 

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On 05/03/2013, at 11:15, Dan Beaver GMail dbeaver...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I was reading and found a description of using the dictionary that comes with 
 the i phone.
  
 It states that if you hold your finger on a word a bar appears that lets you 
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 How do you do this with V O?
  
 I can't seem to get it to work.
  
 thanks.
  
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RE: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

[Alan Lemly]

Hi, Dani. No, I have no braille display and have never learned Braille. Any
help with editing text will be greatly appreciated. I'm finding with the
iPhone as I did with computers that there are about 10 different ways to do
most things. Finding the one that works best for me is the challenge.

Alan

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Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

Hi, Alan.
Do you have a braille display? If yes, that would make selecting a lot
easier.I'll wait for your reply about the braille display before I start
rambling about the rotor. But you may want to read up on cursor movement
before you start fighting with text selection. A great article is at
www.blindhow.com; it's called Tips on editing text using the onscreen
keyboard for the iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad and VoiceOver.
HTH,
Dani 



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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

I really need some specific instructions on how to edit text using the
rotor. I've had quite a few occasions where I've been entering text such as
a user name and password and neglected to move the focus to the next field
before entering the next entry. So I end up with the user name and password
mashed together in the user name field or I end up with the phone number I'm
texting to and the text message mashed together in the send to field.

 

I know it's possible to use the rotor to highlight the second field's text,
cut it, and then paste it to the proper field but I need specific
instructions on how to do this. I've tried getting the rotor set to edit,
then swiping up and down to get to select but once I've done this, I've no
idea how to mark the text I want to select. I feel like I've got the general
concepts down but I can't quite figure out the specific steps to highlight,
then cut and paste. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, if anyone can recommend a good podcast on using the rotor, I'll gladly
download it and study it.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

[Dani L Pagador]

Hi again, Alan.
Put a space between the first and second thing in the field you're at.
Make sure your rotor is set to Words, then double-tap  to get yourself to
either the start or end of the field.
Set to rotor to Edit, then swipe up or down to find the Select option and
double-tap it. VO will tell you what's been selected.
Swipe up or down to find the Cut option and double-tap it. VO will confirm
that text was cut.
Swipe left or right to get to the field where you want to paste. If you're
still in Edit mode, swipe up/down to find Paste, then double-tap that. Your
text should be pasted.
I think I've got it about right. Garth Humphrey has a podcast on the rotor
at www.iblindtech.com; David Woodbridge has one on www.applevis.com as well.
The rotor isn't bad. It's the blasted pinch out to select/pinch in to
deselect thing that's a pip.
   HTH,
Dani
 

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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

I really need some specific instructions on how to edit text using the
rotor. I've had quite a few occasions where I've been entering text such as
a user name and password and neglected to move the focus to the next field
before entering the next entry. So I end up with the user name and password
mashed together in the user name field or I end up with the phone number I'm
texting to and the text message mashed together in the send to field.

 

I know it's possible to use the rotor to highlight the second field's text,
cut it, and then paste it to the proper field but I need specific
instructions on how to do this. I've tried getting the rotor set to edit,
then swiping up and down to get to select but once I've done this, I've no
idea how to mark the text I want to select. I feel like I've got the general
concepts down but I can't quite figure out the specific steps to highlight,
then cut and paste. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, if anyone can recommend a good podcast on using the rotor, I'll gladly
download it and study it.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

[Dani L Pagador]

Hi, Alan.
Do you have a braille display? If yes, that would make selecting a lot
easier.I'll wait for your reply about the braille display before I start
rambling about the rotor. But you may want to read up on cursor movement
before you start fighting with text selection. A great article is at
www.blindhow.com; it's called Tips on editing text using the onscreen
keyboard for the iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad and VoiceOver.
HTH,
Dani 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

I really need some specific instructions on how to edit text using the
rotor. I've had quite a few occasions where I've been entering text such as
a user name and password and neglected to move the focus to the next field
before entering the next entry. So I end up with the user name and password
mashed together in the user name field or I end up with the phone number I'm
texting to and the text message mashed together in the send to field.

 

I know it's possible to use the rotor to highlight the second field's text,
cut it, and then paste it to the proper field but I need specific
instructions on how to do this. I've tried getting the rotor set to edit,
then swiping up and down to get to select but once I've done this, I've no
idea how to mark the text I want to select. I feel like I've got the general
concepts down but I can't quite figure out the specific steps to highlight,
then cut and paste. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, if anyone can recommend a good podcast on using the rotor, I'll gladly
download it and study it.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Regina Alvarado]

Cheryl:
Agreed.  I think we must conform far too much! I am told if we saw what
others are doing we would be shocked.  All I care about is that I don't drop
my phone.  Whether I hold it facing out or toward me is of no concern.
Besides, I most likely will be nowhere texting where I am standing and
walking anyway.  I don't even answer my phone if I am not able to keep it
secure as I know I am not the most stable in my hands!
Reggie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

I happen to be  a lady too and I don't care if people think I look strange
just because of the way i hold my iPhone; there are some things I do care
about but that isn't one of them. This is a matter of personal decision and
preference and not a matter of whether somebody is a lady or not.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Well, you might not care, but it matters. Sighted people already see us as
strange and scratch their heads as they watch us walk 
 past. We don't need another mystery about the blind and why they do what
they do. You may not care about these things but as a 
 lady I do. Let's hold off on final judgment until next month.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:47 AM
 Subject: Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille
Touch
 
 
 Who cares whether it looks strange to others? We who are blind probably
have no idea all the things people around us are doing that 
 look strange :-) Some of this is personal preference because I find
holding the phone as recommended but without a case comfortable. 
 But I do respect the developers' recommendations and realize that if one
does this without a case, he/she had better not complain if 
 the phone gets dropped or a hand blocks the speaker. Also, I'm not usually
using my phone in an environment where a drop would be a 
 catastrophe and this makes a big difference.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Yes, I am typing on a device without a case and this does not at all seen
safe nor seem especially graceful to type in this manner
 as I'm thinking this may look strange to others. Holding and typing with
palms on top and fingertips facing away and on screen 
 seems
 a bit more natural, but the device feels as though its ready to fall out
of my grasp. Typing with palms under the device seems 
 like
 I'm typing backwards as my left pinky finger will be Dot1 when in
actuality, typing with a Perkins Brailler it would not be used 
 at
 all. I'll just have to wait until this app is released before speculating
any further. (Smile).
 
 LS
 - Original Message - 
 From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:03 AM
 Subject: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch
 
 
 Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is secure
 enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers along the
 bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with the volume
 buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is precisely why
they
 designed it this way.  If they had arranged the dots along one of the
long
 edges, that would have been the  potential disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in
the
 outer box defender case, which will help if I am wrong and drop it in the
 future.  It may very well be harder to type on a phone with no case at
all
 while standing.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch
 
 
 HI,
 
 after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem
 like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
 and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as
 suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
 typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will
 be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
 characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other
 words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
 entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just
simulate
 holding the device sideways and try typing each character
 of the word nuts as in walnuts

Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Lauren Simmons]

Well, you might not care, but it matters. Sighted people already see us as 
strange and scratch their heads as they watch us walk 
past. We don't need another mystery about the blind and why they do what they 
do. You may not care about these things but as a 
lady I do. Let's hold off on final judgment until next month.

LS

- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


Who cares whether it looks strange to others? We who are blind probably have no 
idea all the things people around us are doing that 
look strange :-) Some of this is personal preference because I find holding the 
phone as recommended but without a case comfortable. 
But I do respect the developers' recommendations and realize that if one does 
this without a case, he/she had better not complain if 
the phone gets dropped or a hand blocks the speaker. Also, I'm not usually 
using my phone in an environment where a drop would be a 
catastrophe and this makes a big difference.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I am typing on a device without a case and this does not at all seen 
 safe nor seem especially graceful to type in this manner
 as I'm thinking this may look strange to others. Holding and typing with 
 palms on top and fingertips facing away and on screen 
 seems
 a bit more natural, but the device feels as though its ready to fall out of 
 my grasp. Typing with palms under the device seems 
 like
 I'm typing backwards as my left pinky finger will be Dot1 when in actuality, 
 typing with a Perkins Brailler it would not be used 
 at
 all. I'll just have to wait until this app is released before speculating any 
 further. (Smile).

 LS
 - Original Message - 
 From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:03 AM
 Subject: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


 Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is secure
 enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers along the
 bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with the volume
 buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is precisely why they
 designed it this way.  If they had arranged the dots along one of the long
 edges, that would have been the  potential disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in the
 outer box defender case, which will help if I am wrong and drop it in the
 future.  It may very well be harder to type on a phone with no case at all
 while standing.

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


 HI,

 after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem
 like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
 and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as
 suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
 typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will
 be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
 characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other
 words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
 entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just simulate
 holding the device sideways and try typing each character
 of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is sitting,
 but if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better
 hope there is carpeting under you.

 LS


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Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Cheryl Homiak]

I happen to be  a lady too and I don't care if people think I look strange just 
because of the way i hold my iPhone; there are some things I do care about but 
that isn't one of them. This is a matter of personal decision and preference 
and not a matter of whether somebody is a lady or not.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, you might not care, but it matters. Sighted people already see us as 
 strange and scratch their heads as they watch us walk 
 past. We don't need another mystery about the blind and why they do what 
 they do. You may not care about these things but as a 
 lady I do. Let's hold off on final judgment until next month.
 
 LS
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 8:47 AM
 Subject: Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch
 
 
 Who cares whether it looks strange to others? We who are blind probably have 
 no idea all the things people around us are doing that 
 look strange :-) Some of this is personal preference because I find holding 
 the phone as recommended but without a case comfortable. 
 But I do respect the developers' recommendations and realize that if one does 
 this without a case, he/she had better not complain if 
 the phone gets dropped or a hand blocks the speaker. Also, I'm not usually 
 using my phone in an environment where a drop would be a 
 catastrophe and this makes a big difference.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yes, I am typing on a device without a case and this does not at all seen 
 safe nor seem especially graceful to type in this manner
 as I'm thinking this may look strange to others. Holding and typing with 
 palms on top and fingertips facing away and on screen 
 seems
 a bit more natural, but the device feels as though its ready to fall out of 
 my grasp. Typing with palms under the device seems 
 like
 I'm typing backwards as my left pinky finger will be Dot1 when in actuality, 
 typing with a Perkins Brailler it would not be used 
 at
 all. I'll just have to wait until this app is released before speculating 
 any further. (Smile).
 
 LS
 - Original Message - 
 From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:03 AM
 Subject: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch
 
 
 Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is secure
 enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers along the
 bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with the volume
 buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is precisely why they
 designed it this way.  If they had arranged the dots along one of the long
 edges, that would have been the  potential disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in the
 outer box defender case, which will help if I am wrong and drop it in the
 future.  It may very well be harder to type on a phone with no case at all
 while standing.
 
 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - 
 From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch
 
 
 HI,
 
 after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem
 like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
 and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as
 suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
 typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will
 be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
 characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other
 words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
 entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just simulate
 holding the device sideways and try typing each character
 of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is sitting,
 but if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better
 hope there is carpeting under you.
 
 LS
 
 
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Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Arnold Schmidt]

Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is secure 
enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers along the 
bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with the volume 
buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is precisely why they 
designed it this way.  If they had arranged the dots along one of the long 
edges, that would have been the  potential disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in the 
outer box defender case, which will help if I am wrong and drop it in the 
future.  It may very well be harder to type on a phone with no case at all 
while standing.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch



HI,

after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem 
like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as 
suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will 
be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other 
words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just simulate 
holding the device sideways and try typing each character
of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is sitting, 
but if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better

hope there is carpeting under you.

LS



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Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[BrailleTouch]

Thanks, Arnold.
We definitely recommend using a case for your phone with BrailleTouch. 
It will help you grip the phone. Please make sure you find a comfortable 
way of gripping the phone that works for you. And please be careful with 
your phone. While it is possible to stand or walk while typing with 
BrailleTouch, it may not be a good idea. Many people have tried it while 
sitting and holding the phone over a table or over their lap.


Best,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/

On 1/7/2013 4:03 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is 
secure enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers 
along the bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with 
the volume buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is 
precisely why they designed it this way.  If they had arranged the 
dots along one of the long edges, that would have been the  potential 
disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in the outer box defender case, which will 
help if I am wrong and drop it in the future.  It may very well be 
harder to type on a phone with no case at all while standing.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Lauren Simmons 
simmonslaure...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch



HI,

after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch 
seem like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as 
suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod 
will be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In 
other words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just 
simulate holding the device sideways and try typing each character
of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is 
sitting, but if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better

hope there is carpeting under you.

LS





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Re: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Lauren Simmons]

Yes, I am typing on a device without a case and this does not at all seen safe 
nor seem especially graceful to type in this manner 
as I'm thinking this may look strange to others. Holding and typing with palms 
on top and fingertips facing away and on screen seems 
a bit more natural, but the device feels as though its ready to fall out of my 
grasp. Typing with palms under the device seems like 
I'm typing backwards as my left pinky finger will be Dot1 when in actuality, 
typing with a Perkins Brailler it would not be used at 
all. I'll just have to wait until this app is released before speculating any 
further. (Smile).

LS
- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Typing While Standing, was Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


Practicing before I actually get it, I find that typing on it is secure
enough while standing. I am supporting it with my pinky fingers along the
bottom edge, and my thumbs along the top edge, the one with the volume
buttons.  I think this ability to type while standing is precisely why they
designed it this way.  If they had arranged the dots along one of the long
edges, that would have been the  potential disaster.   My IPhone 5 is in the
outer box defender case, which will help if I am wrong and drop it in the
future.  It may very well be harder to type on a phone with no case at all
while standing.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Lauren Simmons simmonslaure...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


 HI,

 after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem
 like an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing,
 and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as
 suggested, typing with fingers at the top of the device or
 typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will
 be held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for
 characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other
 words, this does not seem like a very safe manner of data
 entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just simulate
 holding the device sideways and try typing each character
 of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is sitting,
 but if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better
 hope there is carpeting under you.

 LS


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Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[RobH!]

The other side of this, is for them and the producers of type in braille, to 
confer and see how the latter do their editing or navigation mode.  I reckon 
even that could be better, but at least it is there, and good when it works.
Ok, the latter's navigation mode works Ok, just me and struggle to get it 
changed with a rotor setting which VO chooses to respond to first; 
frustrating.
But for Brailletouch purposes, navigation and editing mode of your input has 
to be a must. I don't know what I paid for Type in Braille,  but that is the 
app to beat so far.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch


If this be the case, that is too bad.  I understand that Apple won't let 
these alternative input methods be substituted for the apple keyboard on 
their phones.  Let us hope (wish?) Apple would offer the developers of Flexy 
and BrailleTouch a multi-digit  figure for their apps and include them as 
alternative input methods in the future.

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:37 PM
  Subject: RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch


  Hi Arnold,



  I am not the developer, but I am 99.99% sure that you will first have to 
either send your text to mail or messages or copy it to the clipboard and 
then put it into an app like Notes, Mail or any other app which is basically 
a text editor. This is the same in Fleksy, both these apps are basically 
keyboard apps which offer an alternative input method only.



  Regards,

  Sieghard





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Editing Text With Braille Touch



  I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the 
manual, and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have 
written several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within 
BrailleTouch, or do I have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then 
change it?  I assume that what I am writing appears in the center of the 
screen, between the two rows of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the 
rotor and edit within BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to 
edit text.



  I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you 
very much for producing it.



  Arnold Schmidt

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Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Arnold Schmidt]

I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the manual, 
and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have written 
several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within BrailleTouch, or do I 
have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then change it?  I assume that 
what I am writing appears in the center of the screen, between the two rows of 
dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the rotor and edit within BrailleTouch 
itself, or there is some other way to edit text.

I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you very 
much for producing it.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Arnold,

 

I am not the developer, but I am 99.99% sure that you will first have to
either send your text to mail or messages or copy it to the clipboard and
then put it into an app like Notes, Mail or any other app which is basically
a text editor. This is the same in Fleksy, both these apps are basically
keyboard apps which offer an alternative input method only.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Text With Braille Touch

 

I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the
manual, and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have
written several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within
BrailleTouch, or do I have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then
change it?  I assume that what I am writing appears in the center of the
screen, between the two rows of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the
rotor and edit within BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to
edit text.

 

I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you
very much for producing it.

 

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Arnold Schmidt]

If this be the case, that is too bad.  I understand that Apple won't let these 
alternative input methods be substituted for the apple keyboard on their 
phones.  Let us hope (wish?) Apple would offer the developers of Flexy and 
BrailleTouch a multi-digit  figure for their apps and include them as 
alternative input methods in the future.

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:37 PM
  Subject: RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch


  Hi Arnold,

   

  I am not the developer, but I am 99.99% sure that you will first have to 
either send your text to mail or messages or copy it to the clipboard and then 
put it into an app like Notes, Mail or any other app which is basically a text 
editor. This is the same in Fleksy, both these apps are basically keyboard apps 
which offer an alternative input method only.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Editing Text With Braille Touch

   

  I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the manual, 
and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have written 
several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within BrailleTouch, or do I 
have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then change it?  I assume that 
what I am writing appears in the center of the screen, between the two rows of 
dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the rotor and edit within BrailleTouch 
itself, or there is some other way to edit text.

   

  I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you 
very much for producing it.

   

  Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[BrailleTouch]

Thanks for your email, Arnold.

We wish that Apple would allow alternative keyboard apps for iOS, and I 
suspect that other developers such as Fleksy do as well. We have built 
an in-house version of BrailleTouch for Android phones. Android will 
allow alternative keyboards, so BrailleTouch would pop up for any text 
field in any app instead of the standard mini-QWERTY keyboard.  It works 
very well, and even supports Grade 2 braille!


Unfortunately, the Android accessibility layer, Explore by Touch (which 
is comparable to VoiceOver), is not compatible with multi-touch input. 
BrailleTouch relies on multi-touch input to make a braille keyboard work 
on a touchscreen. We have spoken with the engineer at Google who wrote 
Explore by Touch for Android. He is great, and was very helpful and 
supportive. We are excited about the potential to release BrailleTouch 
as an alternative keyboard for Android phones, pending a future version 
of Android where Explore by Touch is compatible with BrailleTouch and 
multi-touch input.


Best wishes,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/

On 1/6/2013 9:54 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
If this be the case, that is too bad.  I understand that Apple won't 
let these alternative input methods be substituted for the apple 
keyboard on their phones.  Let us hope (wish?) Apple would offer the 
developers of Flexy and BrailleTouch a multi-digit  figure for their 
apps and include them as alternative input methods in the future.

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message -
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:37 PM
*Subject:* RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch

Hi Arnold,

I am not the developer, but I am 99.99% sure that you will first
have to either send your text to mail or messages or copy it to
the clipboard and then put it into an app like Notes, Mail or any
other app which is basically a text editor. This is the same in
Fleksy, both these apps are basically keyboard apps which offer an
alternative input method only.

Regards,

Sieghard

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt
*Sent:* Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Editing Text With Braille Touch

I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in
the manual, and the faq, and did not find an answer to the
following.  If I have written several lines and want to edit them,
can I do this within BrailleTouch, or do I have to paste it into
whatever I am sending and then change it?  I assume that what I am
writing appears in the center of the screen, between the two rows
of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the rotor and edit
within BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to edit text.

I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.
Thank you very much for producing it.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I asked the devs about the possibility of being able to edit with Braille Touch 
in the future, and they said they would like to make this happen, so while it 
won't work in the initial release, possibly it will later on.

Best,
Anna



On Jan 6, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the manual, 
 and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have written 
 several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within BrailleTouch, or do 
 I have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then change it?  I assume 
 that what I am writing appears in the center of the screen, between the two 
 rows of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the rotor and edit within 
 BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to edit text.
  
 I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you 
 very much for producing it.
  
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RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Yolanda]

I looked for this app after loistening to the accessible device podcast but
am unable to find it in the app store.  Has it been released?

 

 

If one dream should fall and break into a thousand pieces, never be afraid
to pick

one of those pieces up and begin again. -Flavia Weedn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrailleTouch
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

 

Thanks for your email, Arnold. 

We wish that Apple would allow alternative keyboard apps for iOS, and I
suspect that other developers such as Fleksy do as well. We have built an
in-house version of BrailleTouch for Android phones. Android will allow
alternative keyboards, so BrailleTouch would pop up for any text field in
any app instead of the standard mini-QWERTY keyboard.  It works very well,
and even supports Grade 2 braille!

Unfortunately, the Android accessibility layer, Explore by Touch (which is
comparable to VoiceOver), is not compatible with multi-touch input.
BrailleTouch relies on multi-touch input to make a braille keyboard work on
a touchscreen. We have spoken with the engineer at Google who wrote Explore
by Touch for Android. He is great, and was very helpful and supportive. We
are excited about the potential to release BrailleTouch as an alternative
keyboard for Android phones, pending a future version of Android where
Explore by Touch is compatible with BrailleTouch and multi-touch input.

Best wishes,
Caleb
http://brailletouchapp.com/

On 1/6/2013 9:54 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

If this be the case, that is too bad.  I understand that Apple won't let
these alternative input methods be substituted for the apple keyboard on
their phones.  Let us hope (wish?) Apple would offer the developers of Flexy
and BrailleTouch a multi-digit  figure for their apps and include them as
alternative input methods in the future.

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:37 PM

Subject: RE: Editing Text With Braille Touch

 

Hi Arnold,

 

I am not the developer, but I am 99.99% sure that you will first have to
either send your text to mail or messages or copy it to the clipboard and
then put it into an app like Notes, Mail or any other app which is basically
a text editor. This is the same in Fleksy, both these apps are basically
keyboard apps which offer an alternative input method only.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Text With Braille Touch

 

I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the
manual, and the faq, and did not find an answer to the following.  If I have
written several lines and want to edit them, can I do this within
BrailleTouch, or do I have to paste it into whatever I am sending and then
change it?  I assume that what I am writing appears in the center of the
screen, between the two rows of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the
rotor and edit within BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to
edit text.

 

I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you
very much for producing it.

 

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Editing Text With Braille Touch

[Lauren Simmons]

HI,

after reading the FAQ, and as I understand, doesn't this BlindTouch seem like 
an accident prone way of typing? If you're standing, 
and if you hold the IPhone or IPod touch in the horizontal manner as suggested, 
typing with fingers at the top of the device or 
typing with fingers at the bottom of the device, the IPhone or IPod will be 
held with a very loose grip. This is especially true for 
characters that use upper and lower characters such as S and T. In other words, 
this does not seem like a very safe manner of data 
entry on an IPod or IPhone. For those who own these devices, just simulate 
holding the device sideways and try typing each character 
of the word nuts as in walnuts. This is not a problem if one is sitting, but 
if one is standing up right in a line, you'd better 
hope there is carpeting under you.

LS

- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 6:25 PM
Subject: Editing Text With Braille Touch


I have listened to the podcast, looked through the topics list in the manual, 
and the faq, and did not find an answer to the 
following.  If I have written several lines and want to edit them, can I do 
this within BrailleTouch, or do I have to paste it into 
whatever I am sending and then change it?  I assume that what I am writing 
appears in the center of the screen, between the two rows 
of dots, so I am hoping I perhaps can use the rotor and edit within 
BrailleTouch itself, or there is some other way to edit text.

I plan to purchase this app, even if you answer my question no.  Thank you very 
much for producing it.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: editing text files on IPhone

[Ioana Gandrabur]

I like plain text. It can synchronize with dropbox. 
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Steve Vandecar steve.vande...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I want to be able to import a text file to my IPhone and then edit it.  What 
 is the best way to do this?
 
 Thanks
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Re: editing text files on IPhone

[Damashe Thomas]

Hello,

There several apps that could perform this task pretty well. As Ioana 
mentioned, the app plainText, which to my knowledge still has both a free 
version and a paid one. It could be a free version with an in app purchase 
to lose the ads. There is also nebulous notes, which has a free version as 
well a paid. I have been using elements the longest, but have used the two 
others at times. Elements does not have a free version though. You may want 
to take a look at both plain text and nebulous notes and see if you like one 
of those. I only suggest this because there are free versions of these apps 
you can try to see if you like the feature set and the interface. All the 
apps I mentioned will link to dropbox. Nebulous notes will allow you to 
browse the entire contents of your dropbox folder, where as both elements 
and plain text can only show you the contents of a particular folder that 
you choose to link the app to in drpbox. By default, the two apps will 
create a folder with their names as yur sync folder for that app. I am not 
sure about plain text, but I know that elements' default can be changed to a 
folder of your choosing. Another place worth checking for accessible text 
editors for iOS is applevis

www.applevis.com

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From: Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: editing text files on IPhone



I like plain text. It can synchronize with dropbox.
Sent from my iPhone

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Hello,

I want to be able to import a text file to my IPhone and then edit it. 
What is the best way to do this?


Thanks
Steve

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RE: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[Richard Turner]

Great!  I don't know if he lowered the price, or if it is just on sale, but
that is fantastic.

Thanks,
Richard
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

Yesterday after reading this thread I downloaded the paid vbersion of the
APP and found it to be only $0.99. It is nice that it has the formatting
commands, folders or categories as they want to call them and can synch with
dropbox. Definitely well worth a buck and well worth more than that really.

On 8/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, that is exactly how it works.
 Hth,

 Richard

 On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Marianne Denning 
 maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:

 Okay, I think I will purchase it.  If there is a document on Dropbox 
 and my student wants to edit it would he download it onto his IPad, 
 edit it and then sync with Dropbox?  We are using Dropbox as a way 
 for the student to get work and turn in assignments.  He loves his 
 IPad and voiceover.

 On 8/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
 It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.

 If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.

 If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to 
 either read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and 
 down to move line by line.

 Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one 
 large chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.

 One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the 
 ability to password a given category.  (He uses the term category 
 the same way I think of folders.)

 I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the 
 sync does not take long.

 I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, 
 so I am going to write the developer to see what the file size limit 
 is, because this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.

 Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough 
 to figure them out.

 Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder 
 called Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor 
 Notes does the same thing.

 Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.

 Later,
 Richard




 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: editing text

 This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.

 On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite 
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good 
 news is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the 
 Word 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while 
 to test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both 
 directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is 
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for 
 him and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should 
 the documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  
 We currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that 
 will work
 well with voiceover?

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Re: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[Richard Turner]

Yes, that is exactly how it works.
Hth,

Richard 

On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 Okay, I think I will purchase it.  If there is a document on Dropbox
 and my student wants to edit it would he download it onto his IPad,
 edit it and then sync with Dropbox?  We are using Dropbox as a way for
 the student to get work and turn in assignments.  He loves his IPad
 and voiceover.
 
 On 8/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
 It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.
 
 If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.
 
 If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to either
 read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and down to move
 line by line.
 
 Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one large
 chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.
 
 One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the ability to
 password a given category.  (He uses the term category the same way I think
 of folders.)
 
 I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the sync
 does
 not take long.
 
 I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, so I am
 going to write the developer to see what the file size limit is, because
 this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.
 
 Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough to
 figure
 them out.
 
 Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder called
 Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor Notes does the
 same
 thing.
 
 Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.
 
 Later,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: editing text
 
 This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.
 
 On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news
 is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word
 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to
 test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.
 
 Later,
 Richard
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text
 
 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We
 currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will work
 well with voiceover?
 
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Re: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[James Mannion]

Yesterday after reading this thread I downloaded the paid vbersion of
the APP and found it to be only $0.99. It is nice that it has the
formatting commands, folders or categories as they want to call them
and can synch with dropbox. Definitely well worth a buck and well
worth more than that really.

On 8/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, that is exactly how it works.
 Hth,

 Richard

 On Aug 29, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com
 wrote:

 Okay, I think I will purchase it.  If there is a document on Dropbox
 and my student wants to edit it would he download it onto his IPad,
 edit it and then sync with Dropbox?  We are using Dropbox as a way for
 the student to get work and turn in assignments.  He loves his IPad
 and voiceover.

 On 8/29/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
 It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.

 If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.

 If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to
 either
 read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and down to move
 line by line.

 Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one large
 chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.

 One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the ability to
 password a given category.  (He uses the term category the same way I
 think
 of folders.)

 I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the sync
 does
 not take long.

 I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, so I
 am
 going to write the developer to see what the file size limit is, because
 this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.

 Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough to
 figure
 them out.

 Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder called
 Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor Notes does the
 same
 thing.

 Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.

 Later,
 Richard




 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: editing text

 This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.

 On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news
 is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word
 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to
 test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both
 directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We
 currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will
 work
 well with voiceover?

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RE: editing text

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite version to
try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news is that
when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word 2007/2010 version
of Word documents.
The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to test,
but this is looking very good.
I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both directions.
But, it does not take long to sync.
The paid version is $4.99, I think.

Later,
Richard
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
To: viphone
Subject: editing text

I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is using his
IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him and he
interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the documents be
saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We currently use droptext
on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will work well with voiceover?

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Re: editing text

[Marianne Denning]

This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.

On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite version
 to
 try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news is
 that
 when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word 2007/2010
 version
 of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to test,
 but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is using his
 IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him and he
 interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the documents be
 saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We currently use droptext
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Re: editing text

[David Chittenden]

Text is the most universal format. 

In the app store, do a search for rtf and you will get a very long list of apps 
that can handle rtf. Many of them can only view rtf, so you need to read the 
descriptions. 

I do this occasionally using docx as my search term. I am looking for an app 
which will write word docx files. Thus far, pages is the only one for iPhone, 
and it has some frustrations. 

You can also add write to the app search to exclude viewer apps that don't 
write to files. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/08/2012, at 0:45, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We
 currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will
 work well with voiceover?
 
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Re: editing text

[Marianne Denning]

I prefer rtf over plain text.  I will check out the app store.  I
didn't know if someone had checked out which ones work best with
voiceover or not.  I need to start taking some risks in trying out
apps.  I really appreciate those of you who do the hard work.
 I do this occasionally using docx as my search term. I am looking for an app
 which will write word docx files. Thus far, pages is the only one for
 iPhone, and it has some frustrations.

 You can also add write to the app search to exclude viewer apps that don't
 write to files.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 29/08/2012, at 0:45, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We
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RE: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[Richard Turner]

OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.

If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.

If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to either
read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and down to move
line by line.

Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one large
chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.

One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the ability to
password a given category.  (He uses the term category the same way I think
of folders.)

I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the sync does
not take long.

I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, so I am
going to write the developer to see what the file size limit is, because
this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.

Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough to figure
them out.

Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder called
Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor Notes does the same
thing.

Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.

Later,
Richard


 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: editing text

This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.

On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite 
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news 
 is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word 
 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to 
 test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is 
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him 
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the 
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We 
 currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will work
well with voiceover?

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RE: editing text, NoteMaster now uses .docx format with Drop Box

[Richard Turner]

Oops, I misspoke in the below message.  It is Drafts that uses the apps
folder in Drop Box, not Meteor Notes.
Too late and too tired.

Original message:
OK, I spent more time with NoteMaster today.
It creates, edits and reads docx files just fine.

If you have a keyboard or a braille display, it is easier.

If you want to just use the touch screen for navigating, you need to either
read to end, or use the rotor in line mode and flick up and down to move
line by line.

Flicking left to right seems to skip the text, or treat it as one large
chunk, even if you have double hard returns for paragraphs.

One of the pluses, which I have not mentioned or used, is the ability to
password a given category.  (He uses the term category the same way I think
of folders.)

I cannot get it to sync automatically with Drop Box.  However, the sync does
not take long.

I had a book in docx format that seemed to cause errors in syncing, so I am
going to write the developer to see what the file size limit is, because
this was a cookbook that is 198 pages in Word.

Some of the button labeling could be better, but it is easy enough to figure
them out.

Also, with Drop Box, it puts the NoteMaster folder under a folder called
Apps, which is a system recommended by Drop Box.  Meteor Notes does the same
thing.

Feel free to ask more questions and I'll try to answer them.

Later,
Richard


 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: editing text

This sounds very good.  Please keep me up to date.

On 8/28/12, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Take a look at the latest version of NoteMaster.  There is a lite 
 version to try out, but the paid version is worth while I think.
 He just updated it to sync with DropBox, and the extremely good news 
 is that when it syncs to dropbox, it uses .docx.  That is the Word 
 2007/2010 version of Word documents.
 The update just came out today, and I have only had a little while to 
 test, but this is looking very good.
 I think we may have a good alternative for editing Word documents.
 I hope to have time at work today to do more with it.
 I don't seem to be getting the automatic syncing to work both directions.
 But, it does not take long to sync.
 The paid version is $4.99, I think.

 Later,
 Richard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:45 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: editing text

 I hope someone can answer this question.  I have a student who is 
 using his IPad in class.  He has an aid who prepares materials for him 
 and he interacts with these documents through dropbox.  Should the 
 documents be saved as a text document or will rich text work?  We 
 currently use droptext on the IPad.  Is there a better app that will work
well with voiceover?

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Lea Langley]

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units 
 of text can you select?
 
 Thanks.
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the 
 phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and 
 if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again. 
  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to 
 send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have 
 lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among 
 them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Eric SS]

Isn't everything old new again fairly quickly these days? This question was 
just discussed, hashed and rehashed two days ago.

Please take a look at the archives.

 

Telephone: (614)522-9725 
Skype: sseric57


On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units 
 of text can you select?
 
 Thanks.
 Tom
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the 
 phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and 
 if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again. 
  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to 
 send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have 
 lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among 
 them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe 
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward. 
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7 
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c, 
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you 
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the 
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are 
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor 
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the 
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the 
letter a will be deleted.


Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed 
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.


Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the 
other half is spent trying to lose weight.

Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to get 
the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would really 
appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all of you on 
the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do most 
of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research papers.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the phone, 
but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in Windows.  
Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one reason is because 
editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might change but then maybe 
not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
text can you select?

Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v and 
c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if you 
are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone itself, 
if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a 
horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone 
numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the 
phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for 
the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
just frustration.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
other times the character which was immediately before the character
that VO last spoke gets deleted.
So, how exactly does this work?
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
H O U L instead of R A H U L.
So, where should I press

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Tara Prakash]

I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can 
you please let me know how?



- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
other half is spent trying to lose weight.
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem 
to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I 
would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for 
everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I 
do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my 
research papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri 
things might change but then maybe not.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
units of text can you select?


Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much 
hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I 
just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete 
the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail 
on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address 
connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for 
me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone 
but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.


I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not 
make perfect, just frustration.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.

Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've 
typed.

For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last

RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
do.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
you please let me know how?


- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
other half is spent trying to lose weight.
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem 
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I 
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for 
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I 
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my 
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri 
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much 
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I 
 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete 
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail 
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address 
 connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for 
 me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone 
 but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
 and feel I have nothing else to do.

 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and

 the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not 
 make perfect, just frustration.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

 When I first got my iPhone I thought

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Kimber Gardner]

Further to Jennie's explanation, if you're in a text editor like
draftpad and you want to select the entire text you've just typed,
there is a select all option on the edit menu of the roter. Just
double tap select all then flick to copy and double tap. The phone
will say something like text copied. You can then go to another app
and paste the text you've copied.

I'm not very practiced at the pinch gesture so this is what I do when
I want to copy text from one place to another.

Kimber

On 6/18/12, Jennie Facer pup...@me.com wrote:
 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?


 - Original Message -
 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on
 the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they
 do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and

 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so

 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I

 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
 connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
 me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
 but editing, cutting

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Tara Prakash]

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want 
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?

Regards

- Original Message - 
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you 
use

your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
do.

Hope this helps,

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
you please let me know how?


- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
letter a will be deleted.

Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
other half is spent trying to lose weight.
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
research papers.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on 
the


phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they 
do



in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
things might change but then maybe not.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
units of text can you select?

Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored
and feel I have nothing else to do.

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions 
and



the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not
make perfect, just frustration.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Eric SS]

Jenny, you first must be in and edit field. You will want to choose character 
word or line. Then place your index and middle fingers in the middle of the 
screen. To select a character, word or line, spread your fingers slowly apart. 
If you are selecting by line, you will hear all of the line spoken or maybe 
just the last few words. You will lift your fingers, put them together and put 
them back on the screen and spread them apart again to select more lines. Some 
people have found other maneuvers to accomplish this, such as putting both for 
fingers on the screen and pulling them apart. I have not had luck with that 
method. If you find that you have selected a line too many, you can simply 
squeeze your fingers back together to unselect that character, word or line. 
Once you think you have selected all necessary, then use the rotor to get to 
edit and flip your finger up or down to select copy or cut, etc.

Hope this helps some. It does take some practice and some frustration, too.

Eric

Telephone: (614)522-9725 
Skype: sseric57


On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Tara Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want to 
paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message - From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Jenn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 
 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.
 
 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.
 
 Good luck.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.
 
 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the
 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do
 
 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text

RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

You put your fingers on the phone and pinch them together to select, and
pull them apart to deselect. It takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than you 
 use
 your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what you want to
 do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. Can
 you please let me know how?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 7
 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear c,
 that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap delete, you
 will delete the letter c because you are moving forward and c is the
 last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and let's say you are
 swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that means your cursor
 is between a and b. This is because you are moving backwards and the
 last letter you heard was b, so this time if you press delete, the
 letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem
 to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I
 would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for
 everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I
 do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my
 research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on 
 the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they 
 do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri
 things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
 units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
 connected

RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Jennie Facer]

Please disregard my last email. Eric did a much better describing it. I had
it backwards evidently.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

You put your fingers on the phone and pinch them together to select, and
pull them apart to deselect. It takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

Jenn

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Okay thanks. Can you explain pinch gesture. I wrote some thing which I want
to paste to other edit fields. What exactly do I need to do?
Regards

- Original Message -
From: Jennie Facer pup...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


 You have to use the pinch gesture to select text first of all. Than 
 you use your roter and go to edit. Here, you flick down to choose what 
 you want to do.

 Hope this helps,

 Jenn

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tara Prakash
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I remember it is possible to cut copy and paste text from edit field. 
 Can you please let me know how?


 - Original Message -
 From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone


 Hi, first set your rotor to characters. Now, in short, if you swipe 
 down, you are moving forward. If you swipe up, you are moving backward.
 Your cursor is landing between the letters. So, if you have the first 
 7 letters of the alphabet, abcdefg, and you swipe down until you hear 
 c, that means your cursor is between c and d. If you double-tap 
 delete, you will delete the letter c because you are moving forward 
 and c is the last letter you heard. Now, again, taking abcdefg and 
 let's say you are swiping up and the last letter you heard was b, that 
 means your cursor is between a and b. This is because you are moving 
 backwards and the last letter you heard was b, so this time if you 
 press delete, the letter a will be deleted.

 Also, check the archives of this list as this topic was discussed 
 recently. Maybe they will help with a better explanation.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 America: a country where half the money is spent buying food, and the 
 other half is spent trying to lose weight.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 6/18/2012 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrote:
 Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can 
 seem to get the cursor in the right place to delete the right 
 character. I would really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so 
 much for everything to all of you on the list. God bless, Wren

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few 
 days when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is 
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes, 
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at 
 it. I do most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts 
 of my research papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages 
 on the

 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as 
 they do

 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool 
 and one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get 
 Siri things might change but then maybe not.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
 On Behalf Of Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by 
 what units of text can you select?

 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, 
 said from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing 
 to edit where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with 
 separate keys so you know

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Monica Jones]

I'm getting better at it but still not good lol. As David says, it takes 
practice.


-Original Message- 
From: hunter

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:39 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
 in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
 one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things 
 might change but then maybe not.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Lange

 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
 units of text can you select?


 Thanks.
 Tom

 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate 
 editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just 
 leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the 
 whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the 
 phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected 
 to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least 
 a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing, 
 cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have 
 nothing else to do.


 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
 the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Dean

 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.

 Chuck

 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,

 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

 Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Monica Jones]

No lol I wouldn’t want to do a research paper without a keyboard.

From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

Now, I use a keyboard and Word all day long, I would never in this lifetime try 
writing a research paper on the phone itself, that would be punishment.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do most 
of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one reason 
is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might change but 
then maybe not.  

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

   

  Hi,

  How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
text can you select?

   

  Thanks.

  Tom

   

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM

Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v and 
c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if you 
are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone itself, 
if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a 
horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone 
numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the 
phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for 
the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.  

 

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
just frustration.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi all, 

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
other times the character which was immediately before the character 
that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
So, how exactly does this work? 
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

Best, 
Rahul 

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Monica Jones]

Hey, it's what the list is for. If not, we may as well have archives and no 
list for discussion. It's not that I never use them, but there are new folks 
coming on the list all the time. What is old to us is new to them. If a 
topic doesn't need reading by myself, I delete it.


-Original Message- 
From: Eric SS

Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Isn't everything old new again fairly quickly these days? This question was 
just discussed, hashed and rehashed two days ago.


Please take a look at the archives.



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On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi all, I have trouble with the delete part of editing. I never can seem to 
get the cursor in the right place to delete the right character. I would 
really appreciate some help on this. Thank you so much for everything to all 
of you on the list. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:


Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do 
in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and 
one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things 
might change but then maybe not.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what 
units of text can you select?


Thanks.
Tom

- Original Message -
From: Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said 
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit 
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so 
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate 
editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just 
leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the 
whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the 
phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected 
to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least 
a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing, 
cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have 
nothing else to do.


I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and 
the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
perfect, just frustration.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Dean

Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.

Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
other times the character which was immediately before the character
that VO last spoke gets deleted.
So, how exactly does this work?
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
H O U L instead of R A H U L.
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Best,
Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[David Chittenden]

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do most 
of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research papers.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
 text can you select?
  
 Thanks.
 Tom
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
  
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if 
 you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
 itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
 make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
 don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on 
 the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses 
 for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am 
 bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
 just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
 finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
 H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best, 
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[hunter]

Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
  phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
  Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
  reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
  change but then maybe not.
 
 
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
  Of Tom Lange
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
  Hi,
  How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units 
  of text can you select?
 
  Thanks.
  Tom
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rose Combs
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
  Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
  The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
  someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
  and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
  if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the 
  phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and 
  if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again. 
   I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to 
  send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
  e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have 
  lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among 
  them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 
  I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
  rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
  perfect, just frustration.
 
 
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
  Of Chuck Dean
  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
  Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
  When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
  realized my mistake.
  Chuck
 
  On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
  For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
  finger and VO reads the text character by character.
  Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
  So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
  other times the character which was immediately before the character
  that VO last spoke gets deleted.
  So, how exactly does this work?
  Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
  H O U L instead of R A H U L.
  So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
  Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
  Best,
  Rahul
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RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Now, I use a keyboard and Word all day long, I would never in this lifetime
try writing a research paper on the phone itself, that would be punishment.


 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do
most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research
papers.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in
Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one
reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might
change but then maybe not.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Hi,

How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units
of text can you select?

 

Thanks.

Tom

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM

Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v
and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly
if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone
itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I
make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I
don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send
phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail
on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of
uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them
unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.  

 

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
perfect, just frustration.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi all, 

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
other times the character which was immediately before the character 
that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
So, how exactly does this work? 
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

Best, 
Rahul 

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[James Mannion]

That would be useful. I would listen to it. Even being someone able to
edit what I need to, I would listen to it for any pointers or somethin
I could pick up a better way of doing.

On 6/17/12, hunter weeksca...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Should I do a recording of me editing text on my I touch and or iPad?
 Editing on any iOS device works the same. If so, I will in a few days
 when I get back to the place where I left my recorder. This is
 assuming that nothing comes up, and y'all want a recording. Oh yes,
 I'm typing this on the screen of my iPad. LOL.

 David Chittenden wrote:
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research
 papers.


 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the
  phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do
  in Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and
  one reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things
  might change but then maybe not.
 
 
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Tom Lange
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
  Hi,
  How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what
  units of text can you select?
 
  Thanks.
  Tom
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rose Combs
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
  Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
 
  The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
  from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
  where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
  you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate
  editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just
  leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the
  whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the
  phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected
  to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least
  a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing,
  cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have
  nothing else to do.
 
  I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and
  the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
  perfect, just frustration.
 
 
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
  Behalf Of Chuck Dean
  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
  Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
  When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
  realized my mistake.
  Chuck
 
  On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've
  typed.
  For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
  finger and VO reads the text character by character.
  Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
  So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
  other times the character which was immediately before the character
  that VO last spoke gets deleted.
  So, how exactly does this work?
  Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
  H O U L instead of R A H U L.
  So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
  Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
  Best,
  Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[David Chittenden]

I use a braille keyboard when writing documents. I use the touch-screen for 
text messages, calendar appointments, short emails, Etc. I am using my braille 
keyboard right now. Note: I am a slow typist, so any QWERTY keyboard is a pain 
for me.


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Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 18/06/2012, at 14:59, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now, I use a keyboard and Word all day long, I would never in this lifetime 
 try writing a research paper on the phone itself, that would be punishment. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 David Chittenden
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yep, anything is a royal pain until you practice and get good at it. I do 
 most of my writing on my iPhone, even the initial drafts of my research 
 papers.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 17/06/2012, at 11:36, Rose Combs rosecom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the 
 phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in 
 Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one 
 reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might 
 change but then maybe not. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Tom Lange
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Hi,
 How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
 text can you select?
  
 Thanks.
 Tom
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Rose Combs
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
 Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone
  
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if 
 you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
 itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
 make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
 don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on 
 the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses 
 for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am 
 bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
 just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
 finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
 H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best, 
 Rahul
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[Tom Lange]

Hi,
How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units of 
text can you select?

Thanks.
Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM
  Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone


  The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v and 
c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if you 
are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone itself, 
if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a 
horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone 
numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the 
phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for 
the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored 
and feel I have nothing else to do.  

   

  I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
just frustration.  

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chuck Dean
  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

   

  Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

  When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
realized my mistake.
  Chuck

  On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

  Hi all, 

  I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
  For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
  finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
  Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
  So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
  other times the character which was immediately before the character 
  that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
  So, how exactly does this work? 
  Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
  H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
  So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

  Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

  Best, 
  Rahul 

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Scott Howell]

ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with your 
statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There certainly is 
some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would have to say the 
editing functionality works well and I have used it on several occasions with 
great success. I point this out because I want others to have another opinion 
and understand that they should give it a go before assuming it is junk.
I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how 
editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve will 
be a bit more.

On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if 
 you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
 itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
 make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
 don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on 
 the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses 
 for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am 
 bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
 just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
 finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
 H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best, 
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[John Panarese]

 I agree.  Calling something, junk is a matter of personal opinion.  I 
use the editing functions many times and I teach folks how to use them.  In my 
experience, it's taking the time to learn how to do something and practicing at 
it.  Unfortunately, like anything else, if the frustration threshold is 
reached, it's human nature just to dismiss something as being too hard or not 
worth the effort.


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On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with your 
 statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There certainly is 
 some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would have to say 
 the editing functionality works well and I have used it on several occasions 
 with great success. I point this out because I want others to have another 
 opinion and understand that they should give it a go before assuming it is 
 junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how 
 editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve 
 will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
 itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
 make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
 don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail 
 on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of 
 uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them 
 unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
 finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
 H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best, 
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hey Scott, I'm with you 100%. I really like the fact that the cursor is 
between the letters. So if you move backwards, then pressing delete will 
delete the character prior to the one spoken last, if you move forward, 
delete will delete the character last spoken. Basically, if you stop to 
think it through, it will be very logical. I find editing with the touch 
screen to be very nice, and even better than with a bluetooth keyboard. 
Not junk at all, but then again, that's my opinion too. smile.


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On 6/16/2012 1:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with
your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There
certainly is some learning curve which is true with about anything. I
would have to say the editing functionality works well and I have used
it on several occasions with great success. I point this out because I
want others to have another opinion and understand that they should give
it a go before assuming it is junk.
I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to
how editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning
curve will be a bit more.

On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:


The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored
and feel I have nothing else to do.
I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions
and the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does
not make perfect, just frustration.
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
*Sent:*Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:*Re: Editing text in iPhone
Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until
I realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
Hi all,

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
finger and VO reads the text character by character.
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
other times the character which was immediately before the character
that VO last spoke gets deleted.
So, how exactly does this work?
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
H O U L instead of R A H U L.
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Best,
Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  if you have trouble selecting maybe a couple of these tips will help.  if 
you double tap and hold the delete key it will keep deleting until you raise 
your finger, also if you have trouble selecting lots of text, you can select by 
word, flick down until you hear voice over say the word you want, turn the 
roter to edit and choose select the word under the cursor can now be changed 
deleted etc.

hth


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On 17/06/2012, at 3:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with your 
 statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There certainly is 
 some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would have to say 
 the editing functionality works well and I have used it on several occasions 
 with great success. I point this out because I want others to have another 
 opinion and understand that they should give it a go before assuming it is 
 junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how 
 editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve 
 will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
 and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly 
 if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
 itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
 make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
 don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail 
 on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of 
 uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them 
 unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
 rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make 
 perfect, just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all, 
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
 finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
 H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best, 
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[James Mannion]

I agree that the editing functionality does in fact work well if you
master how it works. Yes there is a learning curve, but it really is
not that difficult to learn either. Everyone is entitled to their
opinion, but the statements in the message against it sound like they
come from someone who has given up on atempting to learn it.
On 6/16/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with
 your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There
 certainly is some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would
 have to say the editing functionality works well and I have used it on
 several occasions with great success. I point this out because I want others
 to have another opinion and understand that they should give it a go before
 assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how
 editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve
 will be a bit more.

 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from
 someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl
 v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know
 exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on
 the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it
 there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing
 and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only
 mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone
 because reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant
 experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and
 pasting are not among them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else
 to do.

 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and
 the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
 perfect, just frustration.


 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
 realized my mistake.
 Chuck

 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,

 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?

 Thanks in advance for your assistance.

 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[AppleGourmet]

Hi agree! The editing function is actually very very user-friendly. However can 
someone please explain me once again how to select text. I just don't seem to 
be getting that track! Many blessings! Thank you.

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Raul and Scott,

Thank you for encouraging us to learn to edit on our phones.  This encouraged 
me to explore the skill further.  In Anna and Dean's book, there is an 
excellent section explaining how to edit text with specific examples provided.  
They then go on to explain how to select various chunks of text.  I would 
highly recommend that everybody who is having difficulty grasping the editing 
concept on the iPhone to red this section of their book.

Les
On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

 Hey Scott, I'm with you 100%. I really like the fact that the cursor is 
 between the letters. So if you move backwards, then pressing delete will 
 delete the character prior to the one spoken last, if you move forward, 
 delete will delete the character last spoken. Basically, if you stop to think 
 it through, it will be very logical. I find editing with the touch screen to 
 be very nice, and even better than with a bluetooth keyboard. Not junk at 
 all, but then again, that's my opinion too. smile.
 
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 On 6/16/2012 1:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with
 your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There
 certainly is some learning curve which is true with about anything. I
 would have to say the editing functionality works well and I have used
 it on several occasions with great success. I point this out because I
 want others to have another opinion and understand that they should give
 it a go before assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to
 how editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning
 curve will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
 from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit
 where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so
 you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much
 hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I
 just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete
 the whole thing and try again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail
 on the phone, only mail I get is to send phone numbers to the address
 connected to the phone because reading e-mail on the phone is not for
 me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses for the phone
 but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am bored
 and feel I have nothing else to do.
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions
 and the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does
 not make perfect, just frustration.
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
 Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
 *Sent:*Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*Re: Editing text in iPhone
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until
 I realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one
 finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at
 other times the character which was immediately before the character
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A
 H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Well, I don't do a lot of it because I don't write long messages on the
phone, but I do know that control C and control V still work as they do in
Windows.  Sorry, I just do not use the phone for a writing tool and one
reason is because editing is a royal pain, if I ever get Siri things might
change but then maybe not.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Hi,

How do you do text selecttion with a bluetooth keyboard, and by what units
of text can you select?

 

Thanks.

Tom

 

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs mailto:rosecom...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:26 AM

Subject: RE: Editing text in iPhone

 

The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v
and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly
if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone
itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I
make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I
don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send
phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail
on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of
uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them
unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.  

 

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
perfect, just frustration.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi all, 

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
other times the character which was immediately before the character 
that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
So, how exactly does this work? 
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

Best, 
Rahul 

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RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Glad it works for you, I just do not have loads of time to spend messing
with it and have no desire at this point to use the phone like a computer.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with
your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There
certainly is some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would
have to say the editing functionality works well and I have used it on
several occasions with great success. I point this out because I want others
to have another opinion and understand that they should give it a go before
assuming it is junk.

I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how
editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve
will be a bit more.

 

On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:





The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from
someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v
and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly
if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone
itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I
make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I
don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send
phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail
on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of
uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them
unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 

 

I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the
rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
perfect, just frustration. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 

Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.

When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
realized my mistake.
Chuck

On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:

Hi all, 

I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
other times the character which was immediately before the character 
that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
So, how exactly does this work? 
Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 

Thanks in advance for your assistance. 

Best, 
Rahul

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RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Maybe, I just have been overly busy with working and illness in the family
to have much time and since I don't use the phone like a computer I have not
taken time to spend on something I don't need often.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Panarese
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

 I agree.  Calling something, junk is a matter of personal opinion.  I
use the editing functions many times and I teach folks how to use them.  In
my experience, it's taking the time to learn how to do something and
practicing at it.  Unfortunately, like anything else, if the frustration
threshold is reached, it's human nature just to dismiss something as being
too hard or not worth the effort.


Take Care

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 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with
your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There
certainly is some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would
have to say the editing functionality works well and I have used it on
several occasions with great success. I point this out because I want others
to have another opinion and understand that they should give it a go before
assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how
editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve
will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said
from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where
ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know
exactly if you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on
the phone itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there,
and if I make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try
again.  I don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get
is to send phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because
reading e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I
have lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not
among them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
  
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and
the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make
perfect, just frustration. 
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chuck Dean
 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
  
 Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I
realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with 
 one finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work? 
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R 
 A H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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RE: Editing text in iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Read it, tried it, but my life has been very stressful over the past year so
some of it did not take and since I am not fond of texting and will not do
e-mail on my phone except to send myself stuff from work occasionally, I
have not tackled it lately.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone

Hi Raul and Scott,

Thank you for encouraging us to learn to edit on our phones.  This
encouraged me to explore the skill further.  In Anna and Dean's book, there
is an excellent section explaining how to edit text with specific examples
provided.  They then go on to explain how to select various chunks of text.
I would highly recommend that everybody who is having difficulty grasping
the editing concept on the iPhone to red this section of their book.

Les
On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

 Hey Scott, I'm with you 100%. I really like the fact that the cursor is
between the letters. So if you move backwards, then pressing delete will
delete the character prior to the one spoken last, if you move forward,
delete will delete the character last spoken. Basically, if you stop to
think it through, it will be very logical. I find editing with the touch
screen to be very nice, and even better than with a bluetooth keyboard. Not
junk at all, but then again, that's my opinion too. smile.
 
 --
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 That awkward moment when all your friends are visiting and your dog walks
in the room with your underwear in his mouth.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/16/2012 1:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree 
 with your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. 
 There certainly is some learning curve which is true with about 
 anything. I would have to say the editing functionality works well 
 and I have used it on several occasions with great success. I point 
 this out because I want others to have another opinion and understand 
 that they should give it a go before assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to 
 how editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the 
 learning curve will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, 
 said from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to 
 edit where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate 
 keys so you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I 
 very much hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a 
 mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on 
 typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
 lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I 
 have lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are 
 not among them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions 
 and the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does 
 not make perfect, just frustration.
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*O
 n
 Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
 *Sent:*Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*Re: Editing text in iPhone Yes, as above, make sure you 
 are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk 
 until I realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with 
 one finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R 
 A H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Les Kriegler]

Well, hopefully things will calm down, and when that happens, you can always 
try at a latter time.  I'm certain it takes some time and considerable 
practice, I haven't mastered it by any means, but as I'm training a student on 
the use of the iPhone, I feel I have an obligation to learn this so that I can 
assist her with acquiring this ability.

Les
On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

 Read it, tried it, but my life has been very stressful over the past year so
 some of it did not take and since I am not fond of texting and will not do
 e-mail on my phone except to send myself stuff from work occasionally, I
 have not tackled it lately.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi Raul and Scott,
 
 Thank you for encouraging us to learn to edit on our phones.  This
 encouraged me to explore the skill further.  In Anna and Dean's book, there
 is an excellent section explaining how to edit text with specific examples
 provided.  They then go on to explain how to select various chunks of text.
 I would highly recommend that everybody who is having difficulty grasping
 the editing concept on the iPhone to red this section of their book.
 
 Les
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 
 Hey Scott, I'm with you 100%. I really like the fact that the cursor is
 between the letters. So if you move backwards, then pressing delete will
 delete the character prior to the one spoken last, if you move forward,
 delete will delete the character last spoken. Basically, if you stop to
 think it through, it will be very logical. I find editing with the touch
 screen to be very nice, and even better than with a bluetooth keyboard. Not
 junk at all, but then again, that's my opinion too. smile.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 That awkward moment when all your friends are visiting and your dog walks
 in the room with your underwear in his mouth.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/16/2012 1:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree 
 with your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. 
 There certainly is some learning curve which is true with about 
 anything. I would have to say the editing functionality works well 
 and I have used it on several occasions with great success. I point 
 this out because I want others to have another opinion and understand 
 that they should give it a go before assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to 
 how editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the 
 learning curve will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, 
 said from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to 
 edit where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate 
 keys so you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I 
 very much hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a 
 mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on 
 typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
 lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I 
 have lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are 
 not among them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions 
 and the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does 
 not make perfect, just frustration.
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*O
 n
 Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
 *Sent:*Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*Re: Editing text in iPhone Yes, as above, make sure you 
 are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk 
 until I realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with 
 one finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my

Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Scott Howell]

Rose that certainly has nothing to do with editing being junk, useless, etc. I 
suspect in your case the issue is time and effort balanced against other issues.

On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

 Read it, tried it, but my life has been very stressful over the past year so
 some of it did not take and since I am not fond of texting and will not do
 e-mail on my phone except to send myself stuff from work occasionally, I
 have not tackled it lately.  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Les Kriegler
 Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
 
 Hi Raul and Scott,
 
 Thank you for encouraging us to learn to edit on our phones.  This
 encouraged me to explore the skill further.  In Anna and Dean's book, there
 is an excellent section explaining how to edit text with specific examples
 provided.  They then go on to explain how to select various chunks of text.
 I would highly recommend that everybody who is having difficulty grasping
 the editing concept on the iPhone to red this section of their book.
 
 Les
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 
 Hey Scott, I'm with you 100%. I really like the fact that the cursor is
 between the letters. So if you move backwards, then pressing delete will
 delete the character prior to the one spoken last, if you move forward,
 delete will delete the character last spoken. Basically, if you stop to
 think it through, it will be very logical. I find editing with the touch
 screen to be very nice, and even better than with a bluetooth keyboard. Not
 junk at all, but then again, that's my opinion too. smile.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 That awkward moment when all your friends are visiting and your dog walks
 in the room with your underwear in his mouth.
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 6/16/2012 1:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree 
 with your statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. 
 There certainly is some learning curve which is true with about 
 anything. I would have to say the editing functionality works well 
 and I have used it on several occasions with great success. I point 
 this out because I want others to have another opinion and understand 
 that they should give it a go before assuming it is junk.
 I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to 
 how editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the 
 learning curve will be a bit more.
 
 On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:
 
 The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, 
 said from someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to 
 edit where ctrl v and c work and where deleting works with separate 
 keys so you know exactly if you are going the right direction.  I 
 very much hate editing on the phone itself, if Vokul makes a 
 mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I make a horrible on 
 typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I don't do 
 lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
 phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading 
 e-mail on the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I 
 have lots of uses for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are 
 not among them unless I am bored and feel I have nothing else to do.
 I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions 
 and the rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does 
 not make perfect, just frustration.
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*O
 n
 Behalf Of*Chuck Dean
 *Sent:*Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:*Re: Editing text in iPhone Yes, as above, make sure you 
 are going in the right direction.
 
 When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk 
 until I realized my mistake.
 Chuck
 
 On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed.
 For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with 
 one finger and VO reads the text character by character.
 Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button.
 So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
 other times the character which was immediately before the character 
 that VO last spoke gets deleted.
 So, how exactly does this work?
 Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R 
 A H O U L instead of R A H U L.
 So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O?
 
 Thanks in advance for your assistance.
 
 Best,
 Rahul
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