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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carolyn

Same here, Joshua. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my face or not 
or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how 
> far away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said 
> somebody helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set 
> itup or did a sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should 
> probably first turn off the attention aware feature. Apart from that 
> it would probably be easier if a sighted person can help you trouble 
> shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too close or maybe 
> you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your face 
> properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my
face or not or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far
> away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody
> helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a
> sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn
> off the attention aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier
> if a sighted person can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just
> hold the phone too close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the
> camera doesn't see your face properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Carla
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla

I’ve got it fixed thanks.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Keith, if Voiceover is on when you set up Face Id this is automatically turned 
off.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith

On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla

Thank you.  I will check for that.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 7:10 AM
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Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carolyn

I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Carla

I think I'm getting it.  I like my fingerprint better but I love this phone!

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Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It isn't 
something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think much about 
face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off 
> the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not 
> require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I 
> believe, with visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
>
> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Star Gazer

Yes, with 
attention aware, you have to make eye contact with the screen v. just look in 
the direction. Apple should probably rephrase this feature to mean eye contact 
v. attention since they are different things. 

 

 

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Kramlinger
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 1:30 AM
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hi Carla,

You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.

Best, Keith

 





On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Carla

 

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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-03 Thread Kathy Blackburn

Perhaps Siri made a dictation error. The correct name of the feature referenced below should be "require attention."
Kathy Blackburn
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On Mar 3, 2023 12:29 AM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual difficulties
 turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith



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I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday. 
I went to this phone from the SE3.  
I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc. 
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up. 
Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3. 
I’m even learning to use the power button rather than using a home button. 
I love the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music. 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 


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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It
isn't something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think
much about face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the
> require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require
> your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with
> visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
>
> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Keith Kramlinger

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith


On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:


I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla


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Passcode & Face ID Question

2023-03-02 Thread Carla

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I'm even
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greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 

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RE: face id question

2023-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

It shouldn't if she uses Voiceover with the attention feature turned off.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: face id question

Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She’s having difficulty 
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her 
setting up face ID?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
God bless!
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RE: face id question

2023-01-10 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Paula,

The short answer to your question is, “No.”  As long as she does not have the 
attention aware feature switched on, Face ID does not look for the presence of 
eyes and/or eye position, so to speak.

If she is having difficulty, it is probably because she is not positioning  her 
entire face within the camera’s field of view.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 12:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: face id question

Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She’s having difficulty 
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her 
setting up face ID? 
Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 
God bless!
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face id question

2023-01-10 Thread Paula Jordan

Hi all. I have a friend who just got an iphone 12. She's having difficulty
setting up face ID. Her eyelids are always closed. Would this effect her
setting up face ID? 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 

God bless!

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Re: Face Id Question Please.

2019-08-25 Thread Anthony Vece

I found a way to get Face ID to work and almost be proof.
When I set up Face ID I sat in direct sunlight and set up Face ID.
Face ID works so well for me that I could even leave my sunglasses on inside in 
my living room without sunlight and the phone recognizes my face. Take care

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Aug 25, 2019, at 2:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You know Face Id is working if it unlocks your iPhone or if a purchase is 
> approved. If you have an Apple Store nearby I would make a genius bar 
> appointment and get them to help you to make sure everything is correctly set 
> up.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
> gross
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Face Id Question Please.
> 
> HI Max and All, 
> Thank you for this Max. Ok, The only thing Vo says is enter passcode.  I 
> don't feel any vibration at all on my Xr phone.  I would usually press the 
> home button two times to wake up the wallet, then place my phone over the 
> Apple register screen at the store,  and then it would ask for face id, and I 
> would hold my phone closer to my face, and then select which card I wanted to 
> use.  I tried this again today at the store, but the Apple register screen at 
> the store was down for a few hours, and I couldn't wait a few hours though, 
> so I don't know if it made any difference by removing and adding my credit 
> and debit card again on my phone.  I have asked Apple Accessibility many 
> times about how can I tell if face id is even working with Apple Pay, and 
> they said that is a good question, but they don't have any idea, and they 
> talked to a few engineers, but they don't know either.  I have had several 
> sighted people with me when using Apple-Pay face id at the store, and I have 
> them to look at my phone screen, but they say they don't see anything on the 
> screen regarding face id, so they don't know either.   Although, Apple did 
> tell me to reset my face id, and that I did, but after resetting face  id, is 
> when the problem got much worse.  I also have face id set up so when I 
> purchase something from the app store, it would prompt me for face id, but 
> that doesn't seem to be working either, because when I purchase something 
> from the app store, it asks me for my passcode instead of face id.  
> At this point, I really don't feel secure enough to have my personal 
> information on my phone.  If I knew face id was working, I would love it!  
> 
> I'm  frustrated! !  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Agent086b
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 6:06 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: Face Id Question Please.
> 
> Hi,
> VO will say hold near reader after face id is recognised. also I feel a 
> slight vibration on the phone. I think the vibration may depend on the model 
> you have. I am using a 10S.
> Max.
> 
>> On 24 Aug 2019, at 8:52 am, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone, 
>> For those who use Apple Pay with Face Id, how do you know Face Id is 
>> working? Does the phone make a sound? Does Voiceover say something? Does it 
>> ask for Face Id? I would be greatful if someone could answer this.  
>> Thank you all.  
>> Janet 
>> 
>> Peace Be With You. 
>> 
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RE: Face Id Question Please.

2019-08-25 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

You know Face Id is working if it unlocks your iPhone or if a purchase is 
approved. If you have an Apple Store nearby I would make a genius bar 
appointment and get them to help you to make sure everything is correctly set 
up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Face Id Question Please.

HI Max and All, 
Thank you for this Max. Ok, The only thing Vo says is enter passcode.  I don't 
feel any vibration at all on my Xr phone.  I would usually press the home 
button two times to wake up the wallet, then place my phone over the Apple 
register screen at the store,  and then it would ask for face id, and I would 
hold my phone closer to my face, and then select which card I wanted to use.  I 
tried this again today at the store, but the Apple register screen at the store 
was down for a few hours, and I couldn't wait a few hours though, so I don't 
know if it made any difference by removing and adding my credit and debit card 
again on my phone.  I have asked Apple Accessibility many times about how can I 
tell if face id is even working with Apple Pay, and they said that is a good 
question, but they don't have any idea, and they talked to a few engineers, but 
they don't know either.  I have had several sighted people with me when using 
Apple-Pay face id at the store, and I have them to look at my phone screen, but 
they say they don't see anything on the screen regarding face id, so they don't 
know either.   Although, Apple did tell me to reset my face id, and that I did, 
but after resetting face  id, is when the problem got much worse.  I also have 
face id set up so when I purchase something from the app store, it would prompt 
me for face id, but that doesn't seem to be working either, because when I 
purchase something from the app store, it asks me for my passcode instead of 
face id.  
At this point, I really don't feel secure enough to have my personal 
information on my phone.  If I knew face id was working, I would love it!  

I'm  frustrated! !  
Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Agent086b
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 6:06 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Face Id Question Please.

Hi,
VO will say hold near reader after face id is recognised. also I feel a slight 
vibration on the phone. I think the vibration may depend on the model you have. 
I am using a 10S.
Max.

> On 24 Aug 2019, at 8:52 am, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> For those who use Apple Pay with Face Id, how do you know Face Id is working? 
> Does the phone make a sound? Does Voiceover say something? Does it ask for 
> Face Id? I would be greatful if someone could answer this.  
> Thank you all.  
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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RE: Face Id Question Please.

2019-08-24 Thread janet gross

HI Max and All, 
Thank you for this Max. Ok, The only thing Vo says is enter passcode.  I don't 
feel any vibration at all on my Xr phone.  I would usually press the home 
button two times to wake up the wallet, then place my phone over the Apple 
register screen at the store,  and then it would ask for face id, and I would 
hold my phone closer to my face, and then select which card I wanted to use.  I 
tried this again today at the store, but the Apple register screen at the store 
was down for a few hours, and I couldn't wait a few hours though, so I don't 
know if it made any difference by removing and adding my credit and debit card 
again on my phone.  I have asked Apple Accessibility many times about how can I 
tell if face id is even working with Apple Pay, and they said that is a good 
question, but they don't have any idea, and they talked to a few engineers, but 
they don't know either.  I have had several sighted people with me when using 
Apple-Pay face id at the store, and I have them to look at my phone screen, but 
they say they don't see anything on the screen regarding face id, so they don't 
know either.   Although, Apple did tell me to reset my face id, and that I did, 
but after resetting face  id, is when the problem got much worse.  I also have 
face id set up so when I purchase something from the app store, it would prompt 
me for face id, but that doesn't seem to be working either, because when I 
purchase something from the app store, it asks me for my passcode instead of 
face id.  
At this point, I really don't feel secure enough to have my personal 
information on my phone.  If I knew face id was working, I would love it!  

I'm  frustrated! !  
Janet 

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Agent086b
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 6:06 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Face Id Question Please.

Hi,
VO will say hold near reader after face id is recognised. also I feel a slight 
vibration on the phone. I think the vibration may depend on the model you have. 
I am using a 10S.
Max.

> On 24 Aug 2019, at 8:52 am, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> For those who use Apple Pay with Face Id, how do you know Face Id is working? 
> Does the phone make a sound? Does Voiceover say something? Does it ask for 
> Face Id? I would be greatful if someone could answer this.  
> Thank you all.  
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
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Re: Face Id Question Please.

2019-08-23 Thread Agent086b

Hi,
VO will say hold near reader after face id is recognised. also I feel a slight 
vibration on the phone. I think the vibration may depend on the model you have. 
I am using a 10S.
Max.

> On 24 Aug 2019, at 8:52 am, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> For those who use Apple Pay with Face Id, how do you know Face Id is working? 
> Does the phone make a sound? Does Voiceover say something? Does it ask for 
> Face Id? I would be greatful if someone could answer this.  
> Thank you all.  
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
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Face Id Question Please.

2019-08-23 Thread janet gross

Hi Everyone, 
For those who use Apple Pay with Face Id, how do you know Face Id is working? 
Does the phone make a sound? Does Voiceover say something? Does it ask for Face 
Id? I would be greatful if someone could answer this.  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

2019-06-09 Thread Maria Reyes

Have you rebooted your phone and tried it again?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
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> On Jun 10, 2019, at 12:20 AM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria, 
> Thank you so much for this, but Apple Accessibility and I , tried this exact 
> same steps you are referring to, but that is the main problem the turn on 
> feature just won't let me turn it on no matter what I do.  
> Again thank you, as I greatly appreciate it.  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.
> 
> Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
> hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
> App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.
> 
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> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> HI All, 
>> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
>> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
>> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
>> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
>> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, 
>> signing back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some 
>> kind of glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on 
>> the face id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open 
>> my email, but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
>> Thank you all. 
>> Janet. 
>> 
>> Peace Be With You. 
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RE: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

2019-06-09 Thread janet gross

Hi Maria, 
Thank you so much for this, but Apple Accessibility and I , tried this exact 
same steps you are referring to, but that is the main problem the turn on 
feature just won't let me turn it on no matter what I do.  
Again thank you, as I greatly appreciate it.  
Janet 

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Subject: Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
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> HI All, 
> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, signing 
> back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some kind of 
> glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on the face 
> id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open my email, 
> but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
> Thank you all. 
> Janet. 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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Re: iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

2019-06-09 Thread Maria Reyes

Hi Janet, if you go into settings, Face ID and passcode, and flick until you 
hear a heading called use face ID for... and swipe until you hear iTunes and 
App Store off. Double tap to turn it on.

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> On Jun 9, 2019, at 10:05 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> HI All, 
> I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for 
> the iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app 
> store, face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times 
> to enable this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the 
> face id options under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, signing 
> back in, restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some kind of 
> glitch, but not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on the face 
> id for iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open my email, 
> but face id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
> Thank you all. 
> Janet. 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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iTunes-App Store and Face Id question Please.

2019-06-09 Thread janet gross

HI All, 
I spent over an hour with Apple Accessibility trying to turn on Face ID for the 
iTunes-app store,  as I always had it enabled, but when I go to the app store, 
face id doesn't request for face id.  Apple and I tried several times to enable 
this face id by entering and entering turning on face id in the face id options 
under settings.  I've signed out of iTunes-app store, signing back in, 
restarting the phone.  Apple is thinking this must be some kind of glitch, but 
not for sure yet.  Does anyone have ideas how to turn on the face id for 
iTunes-app store? I also have face id set up so when I open my email, but face 
id once again is not asking for face id, it just opens!  
Thank you all. 
Janet. 

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Re: face id question

2018-09-14 Thread Devin Prater

Yes, then you'd need to use your passcode.

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> On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> Can the face id be disabled? Thank you.
> 
> Arlene
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Maslo" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> 
> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a phone 
> that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention part  of 
> facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you have to do 
> is have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your phone. Hope 
> this helps
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael maslo
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>> 
>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they get 
>> around the face id?
>> 
>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a issue 
>> for me.
>> 
>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>> 
>> Hank
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2018-09-14 Thread Arlene

Can the face id be disabled? Thank you.

Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Maslo" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: face id question

Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a 
phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention 
part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you 
have to do is have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your 
phone. Hope this helps

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:

Hello I keep meaning to ask this

on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they 
get around the face id?

if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a 
issue for me.

can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?

Hank

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Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone

Even if they got a hold of your phone depending on how you have auto lock 
configured by the time that person gets away your phone will be locked.

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Michael Maslo  wrote:
> 
> It is supposed to be faster. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael maslo
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 17:09, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am the same also a woodworker. I really have been waiting for face id. 
>> More days than not I can’t use touch id either. Does anybody know if the XR 
>> has face id that works quickly. I heard that on the last years X face id was 
>> slow.
>> Max.
>> 
>>> On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi mary,
>>> 
>>> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
>>> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be 
>>> better since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for 
>>> days because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
>>> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 
>>> months ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little 
>>> other incentive to upgrade.
>>> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option 
>>> to upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 
>>> plan (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so 
>>> that means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's 
>>> just not happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, 
>>> my wife and I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it 
>>> frustrating how slow they sometimes are.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Cristobal Muñoz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: face id question
>>> 
>>> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: face id question
>>> 
>>> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your 
>>> iPhone on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop 
>>> somebody from snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for 
>>> you? I just think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally 
>>> glossed over by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine 
>>> the notion that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away 
>>> and you never even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you 
>>> heard of folks having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security 
>>> issue. Not for too many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And 
>>> apparently it doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who 
>>> say that even for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went 
>>> home, they have a turned off, because it is a hassle.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>>>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on 
>>>> the Touch Id.
>>>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>>>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>>>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to 
>>>> get into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>>>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>>>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>>>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>>>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>>>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife 
>>>> and I have other plans which require spending money, but I t

Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Michael Maslo

It is supposed to be faster. 

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 17:09, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am the same also a woodworker. I really have been waiting for face id. More 
> days than not I can’t use touch id either. Does anybody know if the XR has 
> face id that works quickly. I heard that on the last years X face id was slow.
> Max.
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary,
>> 
>> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
>> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be 
>> better since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for 
>> days because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
>> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 
>> months ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
>> incentive to upgrade.
>> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
>> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
>> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
>> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
>> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife 
>> and I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating 
>> how slow they sometimes are.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: face id question
>> 
>> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: face id question
>> 
>> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your 
>> iPhone on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop 
>> somebody from snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for 
>> you? I just think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally 
>> glossed over by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine 
>> the notion that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and 
>> you never even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of 
>> folks having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not 
>> for too many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently 
>> it doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that 
>> even for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they 
>> have a turned off, because it is a hassle.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on 
>>> the Touch Id.
>>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to 
>>> get into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife 
>>> and I have other plans which require spending money, but I think once you 
>>> get used to it it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since 
>>> Touch Id is not perfect, either. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: face id question
>>> 
>>> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
>>

Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Anna Dresner

Hello,

I believe Face ID is supposed to be twice as fast on all the new phones as on 
the iPhone X.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 13, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am the same also a woodworker. I really have been waiting for face id. More 
> days than not I can’t use touch id either. Does anybody know if the XR has 
> face id that works quickly. I heard that on the last years X face id was slow.
> Max.
> 
>> On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary,
>> 
>> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
>> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be 
>> better since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for 
>> days because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
>> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 
>> months ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
>> incentive to upgrade.
>> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
>> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
>> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
>> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
>> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife 
>> and I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating 
>> how slow they sometimes are.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: face id question
>> 
>> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: face id question
>> 
>> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your 
>> iPhone on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop 
>> somebody from snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for 
>> you? I just think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally 
>> glossed over by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine 
>> the notion that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and 
>> you never even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of 
>> folks having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not 
>> for too many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently 
>> it doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that 
>> even for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they 
>> have a turned off, because it is a hassle.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on 
>>> the Touch Id.
>>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to 
>>> get into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife 
>>> and I have other plans which require spending money, but I think once you 
>>> get used to it it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since 
>>> Touch Id is not perfect, either. 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: face id question
>>> 
>>> If you

Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Agent086b

Hi,
I am the same also a woodworker. I really have been waiting for face id. More 
days than not I can’t use touch id either. Does anybody know if the XR has face 
id that works quickly. I heard that on the last years X face id was slow.
Max.

> On 13 Sep 2018, at 4:46 pm, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary,
> 
> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be better 
> since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for days 
> because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 months 
> ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
> incentive to upgrade.
> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife and 
> I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating how 
> slow they sometimes are.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: face id question
> 
> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
> on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
> snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just 
> think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over 
> by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion 
> that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never 
> even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks 
> having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too 
> many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it 
> doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that even 
> for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they have a 
> turned off, because it is a hassle.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
>> Touch Id.
>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get 
>> into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and 
>> I have other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get 
>> used to it it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id 
>> is not perfect, either. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: face id question
>> 
>> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>>> Hello Hank, yes you ca

Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Michael Maslo

Hello Janet,
What is saying that if you unlock your phone using your finger some one does 
not come up and take the phone from you also? I do not have to hold it up to my 
face. Most times it is on my lap and I just glance at it.

We was wondering if you have ever tried facial I'd previously to make these 
statements or assumptions? 
 

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 11:24, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and all, 
> Well, I have to admit, if I'm walking down the street or sitting in a 
> restaurant and I want to unlock my phone for whatever reason, I would feel 
> like a real idiot pulling my phone out of my purse, and just holding it up to 
> my face, so now, I've unlocked my phone so someone can just walk right pass, 
> and grab the phone, but who knows, they just might say thank you!  
> Janet 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> Yes, I am upset about the security ramifications of face ID. In my own 
> personal use case, living where I do and with my current mobility 
> limitations, thank you chemotherapy, it’s not a huge deal for me. But I can’t 
> see it being a big deal for others. So it’s not all about me.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi mary,
>> 
>> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
>> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be 
>> better since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for 
>> days because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
>> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 
>> months ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
>> incentive to upgrade.
>> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
>> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
>> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
>> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
>> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife 
>> and I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating 
>> how slow they sometimes are.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Cristobal Muñoz
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: face id question
>> 
>> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: face id question
>> 
>> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your 
>> iPhone on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop 
>> somebody from snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for 
>> you? I just think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally 
>> glossed over by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine 
>> the notion that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and 
>> you never even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of 
>> folks having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not 
>> for too many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently 
>> it doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that 
>> even for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they 
>> have a turned off, because it is a hassle.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on 
>>> the Touch Id.
>>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to 
>>> get into that section in Settings you have to e

RE: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold

OK, so what is it that an Apple watch does that I would find to be 
advantageous? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id question

Hi mary,

You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be better 
since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for days because 
my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 months 
ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other incentive 
to upgrade.
I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
(canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife and I 
both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating how slow 
they sometimes are.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id question

Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

 Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think 
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over by most 
folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion that somebody 
could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never even knew it was 
gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks having their pockets 
picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too many people, because 
it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it doesn’t affect all blind 
people, although I do know folks who say that even for them, when they can’t 
use the attention feature, went home, they have a turned off, because it is a 
hassle.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
> Touch Id.
> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
> remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
> that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
> year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
> other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
> it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
> perfect, either. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you 
>>> get a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Michael m

RE: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Carolyn Arnold

Why would you leave your phone out in a big city or crowded place or house 
where there is a toddler or most of the time?

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

 Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think 
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over by most 
folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion that somebody 
could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never even knew it was 
gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks having their pockets 
picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too many people, because 
it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it doesn’t affect all blind 
people, although I do know folks who say that even for them, when they can’t 
use the attention feature, went home, they have a turned off, because it is a 
hassle.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
> Touch Id.
> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
> remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
> that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
> year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
> other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
> it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
> perfect, either. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you 
>>> get a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Michael maslo
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>>> 
>>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can 
>>>> they get around the face id?
>>>> 
>>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be 
>>>> a issue for me.
>>>> 
>>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>>> 
>>>> Hank
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread janet gross

Hi Mary and all, 
Well, I have to admit, if I'm walking down the street or sitting in a 
restaurant and I want to unlock my phone for whatever reason, I would feel like 
a real idiot pulling my phone out of my purse, and just holding it up to my 
face, so now, I've unlocked my phone so someone can just walk right pass, and 
grab the phone, but who knows, they just might say thank you!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

Hi Sieghard,
Yes, I am upset about the security ramifications of face ID. In my own personal 
use case, living where I do and with my current mobility limitations, thank you 
chemotherapy, it’s not a huge deal for me. But I can’t see it being a big deal 
for others. So it’s not all about me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary,
> 
> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be better 
> since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for days 
> because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 months 
> ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
> incentive to upgrade.
> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife and 
> I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating how 
> slow they sometimes are.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: face id question
> 
> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
> on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
> snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just 
> think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over 
> by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion 
> that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never 
> even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks 
> having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too 
> many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it 
> doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that even 
> for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they have a 
> turned off, because it is a hassle.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
>> Touch Id.
>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get 
>> into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and 
>> I have other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get 
>> used to it it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id 
>> is not perfect, either. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent:

Re: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Sieghard,
Yes, I am upset about the security ramifications of face ID. In my own personal 
use case, living where I do and with my current mobility limitations, thank you 
chemotherapy, it’s not a huge deal for me. But I can’t see it being a big deal 
for others. So it’s not all about me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi mary,
> 
> You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
> I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be better 
> since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for days 
> because my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
> I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 months 
> ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other 
> incentive to upgrade.
> I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
> upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
> (canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
> means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
> happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife and 
> I both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating how 
> slow they sometimes are.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: face id question
> 
> Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
> on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
> snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just 
> think it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over 
> by most folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion 
> that somebody could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never 
> even knew it was gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks 
> having their pockets picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too 
> many people, because it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it 
> doesn’t affect all blind people, although I do know folks who say that even 
> for them, when they can’t use the attention feature, went home, they have a 
> turned off, because it is a hassle.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
>> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
>> Touch Id.
>> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
>> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could 
>> not remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get 
>> into that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
>> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
>> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
>> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
>> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least 
>> another year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and 
>> I have other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get 
>> used to it it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id 
>> is not perfect, either. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: face id question
>> 
>> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/12/18, Mi

RE: face id question

2018-09-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Hi mary,

You are so worried about Face Id yet you want to buy one of the new phones?
I am not worried about it at all and actually think for me it would be better 
since often when I do lots of woodworking I can't use Touch Id for days because 
my fingers have little cuts, I get glue on them etc.
I have a 6S Plus and had the battery replaced by Apple a little over 3 months 
ago and while I'd love to have a waterproof phone, I see little other incentive 
to upgrade.
I guess if I were on a plan where I paid lots of money to have the option to 
upgrade every year I'd of course do it, but at this point I like my $49 plan 
(canadian Dollars) with unlimited calling, texting and 6Gb of data so that 
means for me that I'd have to buy a phone at full price and that's just not 
happening. I am, however, much more tempted by the Apple Watch 4, my wife and I 
both have second generation Apple Watches and I do find it frustrating how slow 
they sometimes are.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: face id question

Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

 Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think 
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over by most 
folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion that somebody 
could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never even knew it was 
gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks having their pockets 
picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too many people, because 
it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it doesn’t affect all blind 
people, although I do know folks who say that even for them, when they can’t 
use the attention feature, went home, they have a turned off, because it is a 
hassle.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
> Touch Id.
> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
> remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
> that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
> year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
> other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
> it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
> perfect, either. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you 
>>> get a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Michael maslo
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>>> 
>>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can 
>>>> they get around the face id?
>>>> 
>>>> if I w

RE: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Cristobal Muñoz

Um yeah, no. My phone stays in my pocket or in my hand. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

 Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think 
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over by most 
folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion that somebody 
could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never even knew it was 
gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks having their pockets 
picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too many people, because 
it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it doesn’t affect all blind 
people, although I do know folks who say that even for them, when they can’t 
use the attention feature, went home, they have a turned off, because it is a 
hassle.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
> Touch Id.
> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
> remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
> that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
> year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
> other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
> it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
> perfect, either. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you 
>>> get a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Michael maslo
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>>> 
>>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can 
>>>> they get around the face id?
>>>> 
>>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be 
>>>> a issue for me.
>>>> 
>>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>>> 
>>>> Hank
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> check out my song on youtube
>>>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>>>> 
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>>>> iPhone list.
>>>> 
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>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please 
>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list 
>>>> itself.
>>>> 
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>>>> mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara 
>>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
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>

Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten

 Presumably nothing. But have you never been out in public and had your iPhone 
on the table say at a coffee shop or wherever. What would stop somebody from 
snatching your iPhone even if it was locked and that’s it for you? I just think 
it’s a security issue. And it’s one that has been totally glossed over by most 
folks. Imagine you’re in a big city. Can’t you imagine the notion that somebody 
could take your phone and unlock it and go away and you never even knew it was 
gone until it was too late? Haven’t you heard of folks having their pockets 
picked? Again I say, it is a security issue. Not for too many people, because 
it wouldn’t affect the sighted. And apparently it doesn’t affect all blind 
people, although I do know folks who say that even for them, when they can’t 
use the attention feature, went home, they have a turned off, because it is a 
hassle.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would 
> stop them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the 
> Touch Id.
> Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
> unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
> remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
> that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
> Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of 
> your face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id 
> would work if most of your face was covered by your hand.
> I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
> year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
> other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
> it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
> perfect, either. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: face id question
> 
> If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
>> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
>> course I want to. But if there's no security?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get 
>>> a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Michael maslo
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>>> 
>>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can 
>>>> they get around the face id?
>>>> 
>>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be 
>>>> a issue for me.
>>>> 
>>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>>> 
>>>> Hank
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> check out my song on youtube
>>>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> iPhone list.
>>>> 
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>>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
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RE: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Mary,

If somebody really wants your iPhone and they want it unlocked what would stop 
them from just grabbing you, take the iPhone and put your finger on the Touch 
Id.
Also, even if somebody did as you describe, they run away with your phone 
unlocked after snatching it and pointing it at your face they still could not 
remove the requirement for a passcode or Face Id since if you try to get into 
that section in Settings you have to enter your PIN.
Also, if you are somewhat quick you could easily put your hand in front of your 
face if you noticed somebody snatched your phone and I doubt Face Id would work 
if most of your face was covered by your hand.
I don't yet have a phone with Face Id and won't have one for at least another 
year since I currently don't see the need to upgrade and my wife and I have 
other plans which require spending money, but I think once you get used to it 
it will be perfectly fine and in many cases better since Touch Id is not 
perfect, either. 

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: face id question

If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like 
> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of 
> course I want to. But if there's no security?
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get 
>> a phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the 
>> attention part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this 
>> happens, all you have to do is have your camera towards  your face 
>> and it will unlock your phone. Hope this helps
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Michael maslo
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>> 
>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can 
>>> they get around the face id?
>>> 
>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be 
>>> a issue for me.
>>> 
>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> check out my song on youtube
>>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>>> 
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Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten

If you have a tension on, you’re fine. If you don’t, not so much.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of
> course I want to. But if there's no security?
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a
>> phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention
>> part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you
>> have to do is have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your
>> phone. Hope this helps
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Michael maslo
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>> 
>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they
>>> get around the face id?
>>> 
>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a
>>> issue for me.
>>> 
>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> check out my song on youtube
>>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>>> 
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Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Maslo

Hello,

No no one could use your phone unless you gave them your phone and they pointed 
it towards your face. That is why I have attention on. 

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:39, Deb Cook Lewis  wrote:
> 
> But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
> that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of
> course I want to. But if there's no security?
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
>> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a
>> phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention
>> part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you
>> have to do is have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your
>> phone. Hope this helps
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Michael maslo
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
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>>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>> 
>>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they
>>> get around the face id?
>>> 
>>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a
>>> issue for me.
>>> 
>>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>> 
>>> Hank
>>> 
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Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Deb Cook Lewis

But then, anyone could unlock it, right? I wouldn't necessarily like
that. I'm not planning to upgrade at all right now, but eventually of
course I want to. But if there's no security?


On 9/12/18, Michael Maslo  wrote:
> Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a
> phone that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention
> part  of facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you
> have to do is have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your
> phone. Hope this helps
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael maslo
>
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
>>
>> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
>>
>> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they
>> get around the face id?
>>
>> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a
>> issue for me.
>>
>> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
>>
>> Hank
>>
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Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Hank,
When you get an iPhone it doesn’t have touch ID, and you are a voiceover user, 
as you set up the phone with voiceover in abled, the phone knows that you’re 
using voiceover, so it disables the attention feature. That’s the one that 
makes you look at the iPhone with your eyes open and looking at the camera. 
With that disabled, all you have to do is point your face towards the phone 
once you have the Face ID thing done, and it will open. That’s why it is a 
security risk. Somebody swiped your iPhone out of your hand, pointed at your 
face, and they have an open iPhone that they can run away with or whatever. But 
if you’re OK with that risk, or if you just basically use your phone at home, 
then no problem. So there is a way around it. It’s just not very secure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:19 PM, The wolf  wrote:
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> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
> 
> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they get 
> around the face id?
> 
> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a issue 
> for me.
> 
> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
> 
> Hank
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Re: face id question

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Maslo

Hello Hank, yes you can get past this without a problem. When you get a phone 
that uses facial ID and if you are a voiceover user, the attention part  of 
facial ID is automatically turned off. When this happens, all you have to do is 
have your camera towards  your face and it will unlock your phone. Hope this 
helps

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 21:19, The wolf  wrote:
> 
> Hello I keep meaning to ask this
> 
> on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they get 
> around the face id?
> 
> if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a issue 
> for me.
> 
> can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?
> 
> Hank
> 
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face id question

2018-09-12 Thread The wolf


Hello I keep meaning to ask this

on face id if a person does not have any eye muscle control how can they 
get around the face id?


if I were to ever get a iphone with touch id this could possibly be a 
issue for me.


can any one tell me if people have gotten around this?

Hank


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