RE: Audio Issue With iPhone SE 2020

[Richard Turner]

I wouldn't do more than use a lint free cloth, like a microfiber cloth and wipe 
the area of the speaker.
I know some folks have mini vacuum cleaners they use on their braille displays 
to keep dust out of the braille cells, perhaps something like that...

Otherwise, if there is an Apple store anywhere near you, having it check out by 
a technician.

HTH,

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Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 7:50 AM
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Subject: Audio Issue With iPhone SE 2020

Hi Group,

I believe this may have started with the upgrade to IOS 17.3, but I am not 
sure. For the past month or so, the audio on my SE 2020 iPhone seems somewhat 
muted. This is despite the fact that I have the audio under settings set at 100 
percent.

Is there any generic adjustments I could make to get the audio to match my SE 
2022 iPhone?  Could there be a mechanical reason such as a speaker issue? If so 
can you clean the speaker in any safe and effective way?

Any hehlp would be greatly appreciated.

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Audio Issue With iPhone SE 2020

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Group,

I believe this may have started with the upgrade to IOS 17.3, but I am not 
sure. For the past month or so, the audio on my SE 2020 iPhone seems somewhat 
muted. This is despite the fact that I have the audio under settings set at 100 
percent.

Is there any generic adjustments I could make to get the audio to match my SE 
2022 iPhone?  Could there be a mechanical reason such as a speaker issue? If so 
can you clean the speaker in any safe and effective way?

Any hehlp would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Resetting iPhone SE second generation

[Christopher Chaltain]

If by reset you mean to restore the phone to factory settings, you can go into 
settings -> general -> transfer or reset iPhone. You can also shutdown your 
iPhone by going to settings -> general -> shutdown.

I don't have an SE, but if you want to do a hard restart then you can use the 
instructions I found at 
https://9to5mac.com/2020/04/30/how-to-force-restart-iphone-se-2020-enter-recovery-mode-dfu-more-video/

How to force restart iPhone SE
If you experience problems with your iPhone, you may need to force restart. To 
force restart the iPhone SE, perform the following steps in quick succession:

Step 1: Press and release the Volume Up button.

Step 2: Press and release the Volume Down button.

Step 3: Press and hold the Side button until your device reboots and you see a 
black screen, then release.

Keep in mind that each button press should occur in quick succession, one after 
the other. During Step 3, after pressing and  holding the Side button for 
approximately 10 seconds, the iPhone SE will force restart (hard reset).

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 8:35 PM
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Subject: Resetting iPhone SE second generation

I am currently running the iPhone SE second generation. I am running the 
highest version of iOS 16. Just wondering how you reset the iPhone second 
generation SE? Are used to use it hit the volume up volume down and hold down 
the home button. Doing this on the iPhone SE with a highest version of iOS 16 
didn't seem to reset yet. Just wondering if that has changed and if so, how do 
you do it?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

I should also mention that I use the App Library less now ever since IOS added 
the spotlight search to the page switcher right about the dock. Now when I want 
to bring up a slightly used app, I just double tap on the page switcher and 
type in a few characters until the app pops up and then I double tap on it.

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Subject: RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

You can move apps from your App Library just like you would any other screen. 
In other words, flick down to edit and double tap, flick down to add to drag 
session and double tap. Find where you want to drop the app on your home screen 
and flick down to drop before or after and double tap.

For me, I keep my home screens very lean and use the App Library for those apps 
I don't use all of the time. I was very happy when Apple added the App Library 
since I missed the App Drawer on Android.

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I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




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Subject: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

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Resetting iPhone SE second generation

[Michael Irons]

I am currently running the iPhone SE second generation. I am running the 
highest version of iOS 16. Just wondering how you reset the iPhone second 
generation SE? Are used to use it hit the volume up volume down and hold down 
the home button. Doing this on the iPhone SE with a highest version of iOS 16 
didn’t seem to reset yet. Just wondering if that has changed and if so, how do 
you do it? 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[Christopher Chaltain]

You can move apps from your App Library just like you would any other screen. 
In other words, flick down to edit and double tap, flick down to add to drag 
session and double tap. Find where you want to drop the app on your home screen 
and flick down to drop before or after and double tap.

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I don't use all of the time. I was very happy when Apple added the App Library 
since I missed the App Drawer on Android.

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Subject: RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




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Subject: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

Thanks.

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RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[Richard Turner]

I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




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Subject: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

Thanks.

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Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

[Marty Hutchings]

[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to 
the ap library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 
with IOS 17.2.


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Re: iPhone SE third generation

[David Erich]

I know the brand ONNN makes an adapter that goes from lightning to the 
headphone jack I do not know if they have one that has a splitter on top that 
has the lightning port and the headphone. Jack hope this helps.

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Re: iPhone SE third generation

[Richard Turner]

The earphones need the lightning plug, and yes they use the charging port.Belkin I think it is, make an adapter that allows you to charge the phone and use the earphones. Apple might make one as well. I'd call Apple.Of course, you could go with bluetooth earphones to avoid having to use an adapter.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 21, 2023, at 10:42 AM, h.begum99 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi, Last week I got the iPhone SE 22 but it does not have the normal headphone socket so what sort of headphones should I get and if it goes in the charger socket how would I use the charger and headphones at the same time? Thanks 



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iPhone SE third generation

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

Hi,

 

Last week I got the iPhone SE 22 but it does not have the normal headphone
socket so what sort of headphones should I get and if it goes in the charger
socket how would I use the charger and headphones at the same time?

 

Thanks

 

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Re: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls

[Donna Casteen]

Turning on wifi calling solved the cutting out during calls problem. I know 
this helps, in my case, because I had to do a hard reset of my phone because I 
was using an app & the phone stopped responding. Before I had a chance to turn 
back on wifi calling my son called me & the call cut out about every 4 minutes. 
After we hung up I turned on wifi calling. Later a person called in response to 
my voicemail message & the 43 minute call didn't cut out once. I have have & 
always have had Hey siri turned on.

Donna 
> Yes I am going to do that.
> 
> On 3/9/23, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Good idea to notify Apple Accessibility about this, because we should not
>> have to give up Hay Siri. I am not having that problem at present, but if I
>> did, and turning off Hay Siri was a fix, I would be in touch with Apple to
>> let them know about the problem.
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Amy Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 12:30 PM
>> To: viphone 
>> Subject: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls
>> 
>> Hi just wanted to give an update.  If anyone is still having this problem I
>> may have a solution.  After trying many things and solving the problem on
>> and off I think I finally have found the real solution hopefully.  The
>> problem is with having Hey Siri on.  The reason I know thi is I ended up
>> going to the Apple store after dealing with apple accessability for many
>> weeks and having them reset the software even after getting a new phone.
>> This worked for a while until I turned on Hey Siri.  Then I had the problem
>> again with the phone calls cutting out again.  So I turned off Hey siri and
>> now I do not have this problem anymore.  Hope this may help someone.
>> Thanks,
>> Amy
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Re: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls

[Amy Johnson]

Yes I am going to do that.

On 3/9/23, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Good idea to notify Apple Accessibility about this, because we should not
> have to give up Hay Siri. I am not having that problem at present, but if I
> did, and turning off Hay Siri was a fix, I would be in touch with Apple to
> let them know about the problem.
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> Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 12:30 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls
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> Hi just wanted to give an update.  If anyone is still having this problem I
> may have a solution.  After trying many things and solving the problem on
> and off I think I finally have found the real solution hopefully.  The
> problem is with having Hey Siri on.  The reason I know thi is I ended up
> going to the Apple store after dealing with apple accessability for many
> weeks and having them reset the software even after getting a new phone.
> This worked for a while until I turned on Hey Siri.  Then I had the problem
> again with the phone calls cutting out again.  So I turned off Hey siri and
> now I do not have this problem anymore.  Hope this may help someone.
> Thanks,
> Amy
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RE: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls

[Carolyn]

Good idea to notify Apple Accessibility about this, because we should not have 
to give up Hay Siri. I am not having that problem at present, but if I did, and 
turning off Hay Siri was a fix, I would be in touch with Apple to let them know 
about the problem. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 12:30 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls

Hi just wanted to give an update.  If anyone is still having this problem I may 
have a solution.  After trying many things and solving the problem on and off I 
think I finally have found the real solution hopefully.  The problem is with 
having Hey Siri on.  The reason I know thi is I ended up going to the Apple 
store after dealing with apple accessability for many weeks and having them 
reset the software even after getting a new phone.  This worked for a while 
until I turned on Hey Siri.  Then I had the problem again with the phone calls 
cutting out again.  So I turned off Hey siri and now I do not have this problem 
anymore.  Hope this may help someone.
Thanks,
Amy

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Iphone se 2 cutting out on phone calls

[Amy Johnson]

Hi just wanted to give an update.  If anyone is still having this
problem I may have a solution.  After trying many things and solving
the problem on and off I think I finally have found the real solution
hopefully.  The problem is with having Hey Siri on.  The reason I know
thi is I ended up going to the Apple store after dealing with apple
accessability for many weeks and having them reset the software even
after getting a new phone.  This worked for a while until I turned on
Hey Siri.  Then I had the problem again with the phone calls cutting
out again.  So I turned off Hey siri and now I do not have this
problem anymore.  Hope this may help someone.
Thanks,
Amy

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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Holly]

Seigardt:

Sorry, you are right.  My cellular signal shows three bars out of four, and 
wi-fi shows three out of three.

When I switched to Consumer Cellular, I was sent the sym card in the mail, so 
was able to determine what carrier network was being used by the I.D. number on 
the card.

In any case, this problem seems to have just started when update 16.2 was 
installed, and has been reported to Apple accessibility, so not just an 
isolated problem.

I am happy that I was able to find a solution on the list.

Thanks again.

Holly

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Holly, I am not saying I doubt you and I don't know all the ins and outs 
of US providers and MVNO's, it was just a thought. Here in Canada as far as I 
know you definitely can't tell if your number is from a certain provider, but 
we also have a lot less of them and most of the MVNO's here are owned by one o 
fthe 3 big telecom/mobility providers.
Anyways, if your calls are fine with Wi-Fi calling turned on then despite the 
good signal you apparently have something must have been going on. 
Interestingly enough, my status bar shows the cell signal as something like 2 
out of 4 or 3 out of 4 etc., it's only the Wi-Fi signal which shows 3 out of 3 
or 2 out of 3 etc.
And even more interesting is the fact that it used to tell me my provider's 
name in the status bar, e.g. it would say "Telus" or "Koodo", now when I 
checked all I get is "Cellular 3 out of 4 bars". To the right then is my Wi-Fi 
which is called "SJR" so it says "SJR 3 out of 3 WiFi bars".
When I turned Wi-Fi off for a moment I then saw "Cellular 4 out of 4 bars" and 
next to it where normally my Wi-Fi is showing I now get 5G.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 9:13 PM
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Seigardt:

I checked the sym card, and by looking at the number, it is possible to 
determine what network they assign you.  I am sure mine is T Mobile.
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Holly]

Seigardt:

I checked the sym card, and by looking at the number, it is possible to 
determine what network they assign you.  I am sure mine is T Mobile.

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Holly,

I did go ahead and do a quick search on Google and while you may think you are 
on T-Mobil's network, you may be on AT, here is what the first search result 
said:

Featured snippet from the web
Consumer Cellular is a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO), meaning it 
leases service from another carrier.
In Consumer Cellular's case, those carriers are AT and T-Mobile.
It offers unlimited talk time and texting in all its plans, with data plans 
from 1 gigabyte (GB) to unlimited data for $20 to $55 per month.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 8:48 PM
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Seigardt:

Consumer Cellular uses T mobile network.  I get three bars out of three at my 
house.
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Holly]

Seigardt:

Consumer Cellular uses T mobile network.  I get three bars out of three at my 
house.

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Holly, I know a few things about American phone providers and some of the 
MVNO's, but first of all you would want to know which network Consumer Cellular 
is using, e.g. Sprint, Verizon, AT etc.
When you say you live in an area where you feel you don't have bad service, do 
you base this on what you see in your statusbar, e.g how many bars? I think 
some MVNO's in the United States may even use more than one of the major 
networks so this I swhere your problem could be.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
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Seigard:

Turning on wi-fi calling has seemed to help with the audio problem.

I have had Consumer Cellular phone service for a couple of years with no 
problem before.  I live in a large city and am not in an area that has bad 
service, that is why I am wondering how it could be my carrier.

I am curious if others with the same problem have different phone carriers.

I have just given this a short test with one phone call, so not for sure that 
all is solved, but it seems to be working fine as of now without the speaker 
cutting out.

Hope others can see this post and investigate their problem too.

Hope to hear more from those who are frustrated.

Thanks for the tip.

Holly
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Holly]

Seigard:

Turning on wi-fi calling has seemed to help with the audio problem.  

I have had Consumer Cellular phone service for a couple of years with no 
problem before.  I live in a large city and am not in an area that has bad 
service, that is why I am wondering how it could be my carrier.

I am curious if others with the same problem have different phone carriers.

I have just given this a short test with one phone call, so not for sure that 
all is solved, but it seems to be working fine as of now without the speaker 
cutting out.

Hope others can see this post and investigate their problem too.

Hope to hear more from those who are frustrated.

Thanks for the tip.

Holly

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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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Seigardt:

Thanks for that.  I have just turned on Wi-fi calling, so will see what 
happens.  

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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Having Wi-Fi on is not the same as activating Wi-Fi calling which is done in 
Settings > Phone.
If you turn Wi-Fi calling on it means that if you do have a poor cellular 
signal and you are connected to Wi-Fi, that your call is made using Wi-Fi 
instead of cellular.

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That does not help me.  I always have wi-fi enabled all the time and have a 
very good signal.
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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This audio problem just started for everyone after the updat of 16.2.

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As I said, turn off the automatic switching and see if that helps:

Settings > Accessibility > Voiceover > Audio, turn of "Auto Select Speaker in 
Call"
If this fixes your issue then it is quite likely that your phone's proximity 
sensor might not work correctly which then would not be a Voiceover bug.

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Seigardt:

The strange thing is that, after first answering a call, I pull the phone away 
from my ear, so it will go to speaker.  After about a minute or less, the 
speaker cuts out and I have to bring it back to my ear to hear.  Then, again, 
after a minute or so, the ear speaker will cut off for a couple of seconds.  
This happens every thirty seconds, or so.  Also, a couple of times, while 
holding the phone to my ear, the speaker will kick in again, then go back to 
the earphone . 

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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[pegkane52]

Another thing I found very interesting this audio issue with the calls, fading in and out, just started happening for me, I’ve had the same amount of signal strength for quite some time now, and never had an issue before. I find that to be very interesting. I have an SE 20.Take care.Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:20 PM, Holly  wrote:


That does not 
help me.  I always have wi-fi enabled all the time and have a very good 
signal.



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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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Yes I tried that.  Thanks for the suggestion.  I think I've tried
about everything lol.

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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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That does not help me.  I always have wi-fi enabled all the time and have a 
very good signal.

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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If turning on Wi-Fi calling improves the connection and gets rid of drop outs 
then this means your cellular coverage is not very good and that it was the 
reason for bad call quality.

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I have had a problem when talking with someone on the phone and the call feeds 
in an out what it was my phone then I thought it was someone else’s phone. I 
contacted Apple Accessability when discussing another problem with them and 
they said that I should turn Wi-Fi calling on. This does seem to work and most 
of the time I get a good connecting, good connection, when talking on the phone.
Hope this helps.

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️


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The strange thing is that, after first answering a call, I pull the phone away 
from my ear, so it will go to speaker.  After about a minute or less, the 
speaker cuts out and I have to bring it back to my ear to hear.  Then, again, 
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This happens every thirty seconds, or so.  Also, a couple of times, while 
holding the phone to my ear, the speaker will kick in again, then go back to 
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[pegkane52]

I have had a problem when talking with someone on the phone and the call feeds 
in an out what it was my phone then I thought it was someone else’s phone. I 
contacted Apple Accessability when discussing another problem with them and 
they said that I should turn Wi-Fi calling on. This does seem to work and most 
of the time I get a good connecting, good connection, when talking on the phone.
Hope this helps. 

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:10 PM, Holly  wrote:
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> Seigardt:
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> the speaker cuts out and I have to bring it back to my ear to hear.  Then, 
> again, after a minute or so, the ear speaker will cut off for a couple of 
> seconds.  This happens every thirty seconds, or so.  Also, a couple of times, 
> while holding the phone to my ear, the speaker will kick in again, then go 
> back to the earphone . 
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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

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Seigardt:

The strange thing is that, after first answering a call, I pull the phone 
away from my ear, so it will go to speaker.  After about a minute or less, 
the speaker cuts out and I have to bring it back to my ear to hear.  Then, 
again, after a minute or so, the ear speaker will cut off for a couple of 
seconds.  This happens every thirty seconds, or so.  Also, a couple of 
times, while holding the phone to my ear, the speaker will kick in again, 
then go back to the earphone . 


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RE: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you disabled the automatic switching between earpiece and speakerphone to 
see if that helps? It would be one thing you can do to try and rule out that it 
could be related to this.

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Amy:

I have been having the same problem.  Have been in contact with Apple 
accessibility and she finally realized that it was cutting off and on while I 
was talking to her.

I got an email saying that they were working on the problem.

About a month later, I sent another email and they responded that they are 
still working on resolving the problem.

Like you say, I can talk OK when wearing my blue tooth hearing aids, but don't 
want to do that all the time just around the house.

Guess we will just have to hang in.

Comfort in knowing we are not alone.

Anyone who is having this problem, please email or call Apple accessibility, as 
the more it reported, the faster we can get it resolved. 

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Re: Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Holly]

Amy:

I have been having the same problem.  Have been in contact with Apple 
accessibility and she finally realized that it was cutting off and on while 
I was talking to her.


I got an email saying that they were working on the problem.

About a month later, I sent another email and they responded that they are 
still working on resolving the problem.


Like you say, I can talk OK when wearing my blue tooth hearing aids, but 
don't want to do that all the time just around the house.


Guess we will just have to hang in.

Comfort in knowing we are not alone.

Anyone who is having this problem, please email or call Apple accessibility, 
as the more it reported, the faster we can get it resolved. 


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Iphone se 2020 audio issue

[Amy Johnson]

Hi all,
Just wondering how many of you are still having the audio issue when
on a phone call of the audio cutting in and out that seems to have
been happening since around IOS 16.2?  I have been communicating back
and forth with apple and I encourage anyone that is still facing this
issue to do the same.  Keep trying to call and discuss this issue
until we can get it resolved.  So far the only thing that helps is
useing bluetooth headphones but who wants to use headphones all the
time?  I kept calling, trying what they told me to try and finally had
the phone cut out enough on a call that they started doing diagnostic
tests on my phone and now are trying to figure it out.  So don't give
up if you've called and feel like you didn't get much help just keep
calling until you get someone that is willing to help and listen to
your problem.
Amy

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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, but 2 or 3 seconds is a long time, at best I'd do a 1 1000 or Mississippi 
count after the tone.

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Fuehrer
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I have also experience this, with the same device running the same iOS I have 
noticed, if you wait a bit longer after the tone sounds, that seems to work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, I find it's well worth waiting the extra half second or so after the tone 
because it seems Siri most often comes back with something stupid if you speak 
too early. For example, I may say "Call John Smith", and Siri may say "What 
would  you like to know about John Smith". I assume what happens is that I 
speak just a bit too quickly and all Siri hears is "John Smith" so it asks me 
what I want with him.

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J. LaPointe
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone se 2020 problem

Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. Anytime I ask 
Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just ablut most things, Siri 
comes back with  something off the wall. For an example, Siri call Joe Walters, 
Siri may comeback and say which one?, or this is on the Web, or many other 
crazy things. At this point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone 
and Siri will call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone 
number of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have this 
problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Thom Spittle]

The tone is way too subtle for being such an important part of the device. . 
Happy New Year Andy.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Thom, yes, I guess that works... I wish I could make the tone a bit 
> louder though. If there is some noise around, it is pretty tough to know it 
> made the sound.  Thanks so much and Happy New Year.. 
> I left a message for  the girl you told me about here in Salem. Nothing yet. 
> Andy and Leroy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem
> 
> Andy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone, then basket 
> to call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the 
> tone that it’s still not listening to you
> 
> SentAndy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone then ask 
> it to call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after 
> the tone that it’s still not listening to you. from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
>> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
>> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
>> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
>> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
>> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
>> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
>> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
>> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
>> 
>> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
>> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
>> 34 Raymond Ave.
>> Salem, MA. 01970
>> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
>> 
>> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
>> Notebook Talking Information Center
>> 
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Carolyn]

I wrote to Apple Accessibility about how quiet the Siri tone is and explained 
that with my hearing difficulty, I simply guess, when I need Siri. 

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Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 1:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

Hi Thom, yes, I guess that works... I wish I could make the tone a bit louder 
though. If there is some noise around, it is pretty tough to know it made the 
sound.  Thanks so much and Happy New Year.. 
I left a message for  the girl you told me about here in Salem. Nothing yet. 
Andy and Leroy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

Andy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone, then basket to 
call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the tone 
that it’s still not listening to you

SentAndy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone then ask it 
to call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the 
tone that it’s still not listening to you. from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Carolyn]

I always release the button after the Siri tone, or after I have guessed it. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:41 PM
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Not only is the tone a little/ or a lot, quieter, but it seems longer to me, 
and if you have any difficulty hearing it clearly, you probably start talking 
before Siri is fully listening.
If using Hey Siri, I don’t' have any issues.
If holding in the button, you have to wait until the tone has fully stopped 
before it will hear everything you say.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Stacy 
Fuehrer
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

I have also experience this, with the same device running the same iOS I have 
noticed, if you wait a bit longer after the tone sounds, that seems to work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
> Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler 
> Notebook Talking Information Center
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Thom, yes, I guess that works... I wish I could make the tone a bit louder 
though. If there is some noise around, it is pretty tough to know it made the 
sound.  Thanks so much and Happy New Year.. 
I left a message for  the girl you told me about here in Salem. Nothing yet. 
Andy and Leroy

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

Andy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone, then basket to 
call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the tone 
that it’s still not listening to you

SentAndy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone then ask it 
to call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the 
tone that it’s still not listening to you. from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
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> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Richard, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thank you, I willtry that in a 
bit.  Thanks a ton. Andy and Leroy

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Turner
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 12:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

Not only is the tone a little/ or a lot, quieter, but it seems longer to me, 
and if you have any difficulty hearing it clearly, you probably start talking 
before Siri is fully listening.
If using Hey Siri, I don’t' have any issues.
If holding in the button, you have to wait until the tone has fully stopped 
before it will hear everything you say.




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Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

I have also experience this, with the same device running the same iOS I have 
noticed, if you wait a bit longer after the tone sounds, that seems to work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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RE: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Richard Turner]

Not only is the tone a little/ or a lot, quieter, but it seems longer to me, 
and if you have any difficulty hearing it clearly, you probably start talking 
before Siri is fully listening.
If using Hey Siri, I don’t' have any issues.
If holding in the button, you have to wait until the tone has fully stopped 
before it will hear everything you say.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Stacy 
Fuehrer
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2023 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

I have also experience this, with the same device running the same iOS I have 
noticed, if you wait a bit longer after the tone sounds, that seems to work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. 
> Anytime I ask Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just 
> ablut most things, Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For 
> an example, Siri call Joe Walters, Siri may comeback and say which 
> one?, or this is on the Web, or many other crazy things. At this 
> point, I will act like I am mad and ask to call someone and Siri will 
> call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give me the phone number 
> of the person I asked to call instead of calling...Anyone else have 
> this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
> 
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Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Stacy Fuehrer]

I have also experience this, with the same device running the same iOS
I have noticed, if you wait a bit longer after the tone sounds, that seems to 
work

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. Anytime I ask
> Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just ablut most things,
> Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For an example, Siri call Joe
> Walters, Siri may comeback and say which one?, or this is on the Web, or
> many other crazy things. At this point, I will act like I am mad and ask to
> call someone and Siri will call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give
> me the phone number of the person I asked to call instead of
> calling...Anyone else have this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
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> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
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Re: Iphone se 2020 problem

[Thom Spittle]

Andy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone, then basket to 
call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the tone 
that it’s still not listening to you

SentAndy, try waiting two or three seconds after you hear the tone then ask it 
to call the person. There seems to be a certain amount of time just after the 
tone that it’s still not listening to you. from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. Anytime I ask
> Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just ablut most things,
> Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For an example, Siri call Joe
> Walters, Siri may comeback and say which one?, or this is on the Web, or
> many other crazy things. At this point, I will act like I am mad and ask to
> call someone and Siri will call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give
> me the phone number of the person I asked to call instead of
> calling...Anyone else have this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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Iphone se 2020 problem

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hello All, I have the Iphone se2020 with the ios 16.?? Update. Anytime I ask
Siri to call Joe or anyone, ask to open an app or just ablut most things,
Siri comes back with  something off the wall. For an example, Siri call Joe
Walters, Siri may comeback and say which one?, or this is on the Web, or
many other crazy things. At this point, I will act like I am mad and ask to
call someone and Siri will call and do what I ask. Sometimes Siri will give
me the phone number of the person I asked to call instead of
calling...Anyone else have this problem? Thank you. Andy and Leroy

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: iPhone SE charging cable.

[Andy Baracco]

it uses the same cable as other iphones. I have an iPhone 8 and yesterday 
upgraded to the SE 3rd gen. and it uses the same charging cable.


Andy

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To: "'Chuck Dean' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2022 2:19 PM
Subject: iPhone SE charging cable.


Hi list members. I have a friend who is using an iPhone SE, I believe the 
original SE. Does anyone know what type charging cable is used with this 
phone? I thought it was a USB to lighting, but apparently not. Also, Is 
there a power bank available for this phone, Or perhaps an adapter? Thanks


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RE: iPhone SE charging cable.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As Ben pointed out, the SE and in fact all iPhones since the iPhone 5 in 2012 
have a Lightning port.
As for a powerbank you can use any power bank you want, most have 1 or 2 
regular USB-A ports like you find on a computer and your USB to Lightning Cable 
plugs into that.
If your friend has a USB-C to Lightning cable then possibly he is trying to 
plug the USB-C plug into the iPhone. It feels quite similar to a Lightning 
port, but it definitely won't fit.
Both Lightning and USB-C can be plugged in either way, i.e. there is no right 
and wrong way. A regular USB-A plug only goes in one way as does Micro USB.


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Subject: iPhone SE charging cable.

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Re: iPhone SE charging cable.

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

All of the SE phones have Lightning ports, so you're correct in saying
that the cable required is USB to Lightning. What's on the non
Lightning end will depend on the charger they're plugging it into.

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iPhone SE charging cable.

[Larry Smith]

Hi list members. I have a friend who is using an iPhone SE, I believe the 
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RE: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Carolyn]

The good thing about USPC is that I can charge my phone from low 20's to around 
80% in about 45 minutes. That is not a deal breaker, but it is nice to have 
that benefit. 

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Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

No, it is not worth the upgrade. The SE 2022 has the iPhone 13 chip, which is 
not much faster than the 11 or 12.  The big change from the
11 to the 13 is 5g connectivity and most cell phone companies in the United 
States have not deployed it in a way that it makes a difference in the 
experience for nearly all iPhone users. They all have network upgrade plans, 
but the promises of dramatic speed increases or vastly greater coverage 
footprints have not materialized. The companies are currently refusing to 
explain how their previous claims fail to match today’s operations for most 
users.

Personally, I have turned off 5g on my 13 Mini and enjoy longer battery life as 
a result.  It only was available in downtown Chicago, and I did not experience 
5g in all parts but just some. iPhone affordability is achieved when people 
hold onto their phones until iOS can no longer be updated or even after iOS 
updates cease.  For the iPhone 6s that was seven  years and it was six years 
for the iPhone 7.
Both are still reliable phones today, particularly if kept in an indestructible 
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will be in phones for next year, although only the Pro will have the super-fast 
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nanometer chips introduced with the 12 series in 2020.  Exciting new 
functionality is coming to the iPhone and I am saving my pennies to run out and 
have the future in my hands when it arrives.

Kelly



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Re: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If I had not had an iPhone 8, but gotten the 11 when I had the chance,
I would still have that phone.  I would wait until the 15 comes out to
get a new phone.  The reason why I got a new phone was because this
was the last year the 8 would be supported.

On 11/23/22, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> No, it is not worth the upgrade. The SE 2022 has the iPhone 13 chip,
> which is not much faster than the 11 or 12.  The big change from the
> 11 to the 13 is 5g connectivity and most cell phone companies in the
> United States have not deployed it in a way that it makes a difference
> in the experience for nearly all iPhone users. They all have network
> upgrade plans, but the promises of dramatic speed increases or vastly
> greater coverage footprints have not materialized. The companies are
> currently refusing to explain how their previous claims fail to match
> today’s operations for most users.
>
> Personally, I have turned off 5g on my 13 Mini and enjoy longer
> battery life as a result.  It only was available in downtown Chicago,
> and I did not experience 5g in all parts but just some. iPhone
> affordability is achieved when people hold onto their phones until iOS
> can no longer be updated or even after iOS updates cease.  For the
> iPhone 6s that was seven  years and it was six years for the iPhone 7.
> Both are still reliable phones today, particularly if kept in an
> indestructible Otterbox hard shell case.  Apple makes highly durable
> hardware that lasts for years. Your SE 2022 will still be useful and
> functional well into the mid-2020s and beyond.  Apple has some really
> big changes planned for future phones. USBC will be in phones for next
> year, although only the Pro will have the super-fast transfer rate.
> In 2023 or 2024, iPhones will have the three nanometer chip, requiring
> less power from the battery and significantly greater speed, enabling
> the iPhone to perform even more complex tasks. Services like live
> text, enhanced image description and LIDAR were either as a result or
> fully enabled by the five nanometer chips introduced with the 12
> series in 2020.  Exciting new functionality is coming to the iPhone
> and I am saving my pennies to run out and have the future in my hands
> when it arrives.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 11/23/22, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> See what you can get towards a 14 pro or pro max.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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>> Buys
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>> Subject: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022
>>
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Re: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Kelly Pierce]

No, it is not worth the upgrade. The SE 2022 has the iPhone 13 chip,
which is not much faster than the 11 or 12.  The big change from the
11 to the 13 is 5g connectivity and most cell phone companies in the
United States have not deployed it in a way that it makes a difference
in the experience for nearly all iPhone users. They all have network
upgrade plans, but the promises of dramatic speed increases or vastly
greater coverage footprints have not materialized. The companies are
currently refusing to explain how their previous claims fail to match
today’s operations for most users.

Personally, I have turned off 5g on my 13 Mini and enjoy longer
battery life as a result.  It only was available in downtown Chicago,
and I did not experience 5g in all parts but just some. iPhone
affordability is achieved when people hold onto their phones until iOS
can no longer be updated or even after iOS updates cease.  For the
iPhone 6s that was seven  years and it was six years for the iPhone 7.
Both are still reliable phones today, particularly if kept in an
indestructible Otterbox hard shell case.  Apple makes highly durable
hardware that lasts for years. Your SE 2022 will still be useful and
functional well into the mid-2020s and beyond.  Apple has some really
big changes planned for future phones. USBC will be in phones for next
year, although only the Pro will have the super-fast transfer rate.
In 2023 or 2024, iPhones will have the three nanometer chip, requiring
less power from the battery and significantly greater speed, enabling
the iPhone to perform even more complex tasks. Services like live
text, enhanced image description and LIDAR were either as a result or
fully enabled by the five nanometer chips introduced with the 12
series in 2020.  Exciting new functionality is coming to the iPhone
and I am saving my pennies to run out and have the future in my hands
when it arrives.

Kelly



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>
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>
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RE: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Anything wrong with your iPhone 11? I also have an iPhone 11 and personally I 
can't even find any compelling reasons to upgrade to an iPhone 14 let alone an 
iPhone SE 2022 which has the same processor and so on as an iPhone 13.
Things like LiDAR and MagSafe I like, but it's not like they are that crucial 
so I'll definitely wait until at least the iPhone 15 next year.

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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 3:59 AM
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Hello list
Is it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too expensive.
Regards
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RE: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Dennis Long]

See what you can get towards a 14 pro or pro max.

 

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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 6:59 AM
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Hello list

Is it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too expensive.

Regards

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RE: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Carolyn]

I would not do an upgrade from an 11 to an SE2022. I had an 11, good phone. I 
got $800 for it on trade for 14 Pro with monthly, no-interest pay out on the 
balance of the 14 Pro. 

You know, on the 14's, there are no more 64 gb phones, only 128 and up. I ended 
up getting a 256, so am thinking that I'll have this phone for quite some time 
to come. 

I would not have traded my 11 for an SE 2022. 

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Hello list
Is it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too expensive.
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Re: Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Gerardo Corripio]

I'd say go for it! Yes you won't have some of the features that the 14 has, but you'll have the processor of the 13 in an iPhone 8's body (plus of course, the Home Button). Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 23 nov 2022, a la(s) 6:07 a.m., Fanus Buys  escribió:Hello listIs it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too expensive.RegardsFanus



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Upgrade from iPhone 11 to Iphone SE 2022

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list
Is it worth while to do such an upgrade. The iPhone 14 is just too
expensive.
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Problem with Iphone SE 2022 and IOS 16

[danamarieleet]

I do not use a password.

But twice since updating, my phone decides to just randomly stop responding.

The weird thing is, that I am certain it is not completely off as I can tap
the home button 3 times, but nothing happens.  Siri does not respond at all.

The up and down volume buttons respond and it lets me do a restart wherein I
hold down the up and down button and the side button till it restarts and
then works again.

I have not gotten anyone to see the screen when this happened both times,
the only thing I do know is that the phone was locked.

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RE: IPhone SE 2022

[Dennis Long]

Yes it has a home button.  It has a better chip and 5g support.

 

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Hi everyone

I have the IPhone SE 2020!

I want to upgrade later this year to the SE 2022 model.

Is there much of a difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

Does the SE 2022 still have a home button?

I want a phone with the home button, my main reason for sticking with the Se 
model.

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RE: IPhone SE 2022

[Karen Poulakos]

I recently upgraded from the original SE to the 2022, and love it.  It does 
have the Home button, and everything is working pretty much the same as on my 
older phone.  Just a bit faster.

 

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Hi everyone

I have the IPhone SE 2020!

I want to upgrade later this year to the SE 2022 model.

Is there much of a difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

Does the SE 2022 still have a home button?

I want a phone with the home button, my main reason for sticking with the Se 
model.

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IPhone SE 2022

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Hi everyone

I have the IPhone SE 2020!

I want to upgrade later this year to the SE 2022 model.

Is there much of a difference between the SE 2020 and the SE 2022?

Does the SE 2022 still have a home button?

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Re: iPhone SE.

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, everyone, it would be wonderful if it could be available on the 13 pro max. 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 3:20 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I have heard that eventually, fingerprint ID can work with the iPhone's 
> Power Button on the side of the phone. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone SE.
> 
> Here is how you can tell.
> 
> 
> 
> Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.  
> It will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is 
> because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.
> 
> 
> 
> The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when the 
> phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go down 
> when it is pressed.
> 
> 
> 
> Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home 
> button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?  
> I will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what Apple 
> has planned for the future.
> 
> 
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
> not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what 
> feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, 
> rather than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first 
> generation SE.  Hard to describe.
> 
> 
> 
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I 
> am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from 
> the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.
> 
> 
> 
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
> because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
> back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was 
> a line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
> other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would 
> have to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  
> Back then we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added 
> new prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
> letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 
> 
> 
> 
> Those were the days. . .
> 
> 
> 
> Karen P
> 
> 
> 
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? 
> I could be wrong about that. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Crayton Benner
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
> water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> James B  
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
> 
> 
> 
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  <mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:
> 
>I hear it has a home button, my friend 

Re: iPhone SE.

[Daniel MacDonald]

I have an iPhone SE Second Generation. it does have a home button, but it is not phisical like the iPhone 6S and earlier. it is a round button, however, when the phone is powered off, there is no press, like the 6S and earlier. the phisical home buttons can ware out, and I’m not sure if Apple makes replacement parts for such old hardware, iPhone 6S and earlier. On Aug 13, 2022, at 9:49 AM, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:If I am understanding this correct, there is the newist third gen SE, then, the second Gen, and the very old first Generation.  Only the old phone has a phisical home button which can eventually allow water inside the phone or wear out. The newer phones have a haptic feel that mimicks the press of a spring loaded button but it is not a mechanical button at all. Someone let us know if I am incorrect.  It wouldn’t be the first time. Regards, James B   From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: iPhone SE. I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I could be wrong about that. Kind regards,Crayton BennerOn Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote: The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts. Regards, James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Michael FeirSent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: iPhone SE. Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all. On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer <cur...@calweb.com> wrote:I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press work around action?-- Curtis DelzerH.S.K6VFO  Rialto, CAcur...@calweb.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4a43af8f-4449-1fdd-2845-caea7a2481d3%40calweb.com.-- Michael FeirAuthor of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a Totally Blind Userhttp://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-second-edition-of-personal-power.html?m=1Twitter: mfeirSkype: michael-feirCheck out my blog at:http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzpLaWushs%2BxfU30icvKZstRfDu5g%3DNEKf9N9S%3Dyu11f5A%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 

RE: iPhone SE.

[Christopher Chaltain]

Apple does have good reasons to ditch the home button, and I wouldn't want to 
see it come back, but they shouldn't wear out in the time someone will be using 
it and getting rid of them doesn't make it significantly easier to make the 
phone more water proof. I don't think Apple upgraded the water proof rating of 
their phones when they ditched the home button and there are plenty of other 
phones who have a home button and are more water proof than the iPhone. The 
iPhone still has three other buttons on it, a mute switcht, a Lightning port, a 
sim tray  and speaker grills. I suspect it had more to do with aesthetics and 
manufacturing costs.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Yes it does.


On Aug 13, 2022, at 7:29 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that.
Kind regards,
Crayton Benner


On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:

The home button on the SE second and third generation can't wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

Regards,

James B

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer 
mailto:cur...@calweb.com>> wrote:
I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press
work around action?

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Re: iPhone SE.

[joseph hudson]

Yes it does.

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 7:29 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? 
> I could be wrong about that. 
> Kind regards,
> Crayton Benner
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or 
>> allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving 
>> parts.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> James B  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Michael Feir
>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>>  
>> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
>> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
>> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
>> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
>> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
>> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
>> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
>> all.
>>  
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer > <mailto:cur...@calweb.com>> wrote:
>>> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
>>> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
>>> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
>>> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
>>> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
>>> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
>>> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
>>> work around action?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Curtis Delzer
>>> H.S.
>>> K6VFO
>>>   Rialto, CA
>>> cur...@calweb.com <mailto:cur...@calweb.com>
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Re: iPhone SE.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Its fun to purchase things with the iPhone, just use your face ID then
double tap the side button and there you go.

On 8/13/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I have heard that eventually, fingerprint ID can work with the iPhone's
> Power Button on the side of the phone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone SE.
>
> Here is how you can tell.
>
>
>
> Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.
> It will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is
> because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.
>
>
>
> The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when
> the phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go
> down when it is pressed.
>
>
>
> Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home
> button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?
>  I will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what
> Apple has planned for the future.
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving
> or not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what
> feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself,
> rather than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first
> generation SE.  Hard to describe.
>
>
>
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I
> am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from
> the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.
>
>
>
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s
> because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young,
> back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that
> was a line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to
> each other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you
> would have to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your
> call.  Back then we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until
> they added new prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were
> indicated by letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers.
>
>
>
> Those were the days. . .
>
>
>
> Karen P
>
>
>
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe
> not? I could be wrong about that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Crayton Benner
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>
>
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or
> allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving
> parts.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel.
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at
> all.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  <mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:
>
>   I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
>   tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
>   I still wish I had a home button. I belie

RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

I have heard that eventually, fingerprint ID can work with the iPhone's Power 
Button on the side of the phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

Here is how you can tell.

 

Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.  It 
will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is 
because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.

 

The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when the 
phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go down 
when it is pressed.

 

Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home 
button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?  I 
will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what Apple has 
planned for the future.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

 

It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what feels 
more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, rather 
than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first generation 
SE.  Hard to describe.

 

Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I am 
feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from the 
button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.

 

The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was a 
line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would have 
to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  Back then 
we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new 
prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 

 

Those were the days. . .

 

Karen P

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner

 

On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many 
ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, 
can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

-- 
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
  Rialto, CA
cur...@calweb.com <mailto:cur...@calweb.com> 

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RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

I totally agree with you, Joshua. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

I don't miss the home button at all.  Although I have an iPhone 8 with all my 
bard books on it that I'm keeping which does have the home button.  The third 
gen SE doesn't have enough internal storage space for me.  I'm surprised at how 
easy I found it going from a home button to not having one.  Everyone will 
eventually have to use an iPhone without a home button, so why not get used to 
it as quickly as possible.

On 8/13/22, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually 
> moving or not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on 
> it, I feel what feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, 
> in the phone itself, rather than under my finger.  It’s a different 
> response than with my first generation SE.  Hard to describe.
>
>
>
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than 
> what I am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking 
> sound from the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 
> is moving.
>
>
>
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess 
> that’s because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When 
> I was young, back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you 
> younger people, that was a line shared between 2 or more families, who 
> may not even live next to each other.  If you picked up the receiver 
> and heard someone talking, you would have to hang up and wait till 
> they were finished before making your call.  Back then we only had to 
> dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new prefixes, 
> then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by letters of 
> the alphabet, rather than numbers.
>
>
>
> Those were the days. . .
>
>
>
> Karen P
>
>
>
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. 
> Maybe not? I could be wrong about that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Crayton Benner
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out 
> or allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No 
> moving parts.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware 
> out over time. Also, not having a home button improves water 
> resistance. One way to feel the results of the gestures which replace 
> the home button for VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio 
> settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. This makes those indicator 
> bumps easier to feel.
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem 
> feeling the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the 
> home button at all.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:
>
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many 
> ways I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of 
> Apple not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. 
> I contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear 
> that little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? 
> Or, can you enter the home button via voice command instead of that 
> back press work around action?
>
> --
> Curtis Delzer
> H.S.
> K6VFO
>   Rialto, CA
> cur...@calweb.com
>
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RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

I remember well, Karen. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karen Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what feels 
more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, rather 
than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first generation 
SE.  Hard to describe.

 

Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I am 
feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from the 
button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.

 

The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was a 
line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would have 
to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  Back then 
we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new 
prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 

 

Those were the days. . .

 

Karen P

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner





On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many 
ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, 
can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

-- 
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
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RE: iPhone SE.

[Carolyn]

I would not want to go back to Home Button, just takes up screen space. Good 
thing that we still have choices. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Curtis Delzer
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 2:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone SE.

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I tell him 
it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways I still wish I 
had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple not to include home 
buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I contend it makes it harder to 
use, not easier; every try and hear that little sound or feel it while any 
background noise is happening? Or, can you enter the home button via voice 
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Re: iPhone SE.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

There is no touch ID for the newer iPhones yet.  I hope there will be
one in my next iPhone.

On 8/13/22, bentleyj1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Here is how you can tell.
>
>
>
> Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.
> It will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is
> because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.
>
>
>
> The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when
> the phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go
> down when it is pressed.
>
>
>
> Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home
> button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?
>  I will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what
> Apple has planned for the future.
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen
> Poulakos
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving
> or not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what
> feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself,
> rather than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first
> generation SE.  Hard to describe.
>
>
>
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I
> am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from
> the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.
>
>
>
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s
> because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young,
> back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that
> was a line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to
> each other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you
> would have to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your
> call.  Back then we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until
> they added new prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were
> indicated by letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers.
>
>
>
> Those were the days. . .
>
>
>
> Karen P
>
>
>
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe
> not? I could be wrong about that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Crayton Benner
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>
>
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or
> allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving
> parts.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel.
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at
> all.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:
>
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press
> work around action?
>
> --
> Curtis Delzer
> H.S.
> K6VFO
>   Rialto, CA
> cur...@calweb.com <mailto:cur...@calweb

RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

Here is how you can tell.

 

Turn your phone completely off.  Now press down firmly on the home button.  It 
will feel like you are pressing on a solid hard piece of glass.  That is 
because you are actually pressing down on a rigid piece of glass.

 

The haptic bump that you feel while pressing down on the home button when the 
phone is turned on tricks us in to believing that we felt the button go down 
when it is pressed.

 

Its kind of cool technology.  I suppose getting use to a phone with no home 
button is no real problem but where will the finger print reader be located?  I 
will absolutely hate not having a finger print reader if that is what Apple has 
planned for the future.

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Karen 
Poulakos
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

 

It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what feels 
more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, rather 
than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first generation 
SE.  Hard to describe.

 

Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I am 
feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from the 
button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.

 

The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was a 
line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would have 
to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  Back then 
we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new 
prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 

 

Those were the days. . .

 

Karen P

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner

 

On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

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H.S.
K6VFO
  Rialto, CA
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Re: iPhone SE.

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't miss the home button at all.  Although I have an iPhone 8 with
all my bard books on it that I'm keeping which does have the home
button.  The third gen SE doesn't have enough internal storage space
for me.  I'm surprised at how easy I found it going from a home button
to not having one.  Everyone will eventually have to use an iPhone
without a home button, so why not get used to it as quickly as
possible.

On 8/13/22, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving
> or not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what
> feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself,
> rather than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first
> generation SE.  Hard to describe.
>
>
>
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I
> am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from
> the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.
>
>
>
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s
> because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young,
> back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that
> was a line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to
> each other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you
> would have to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your
> call.  Back then we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until
> they added new prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were
> indicated by letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers.
>
>
>
> Those were the days. . .
>
>
>
> Karen P
>
>
>
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe
> not? I could be wrong about that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Crayton Benner
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or
> allow water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving
> parts.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> James B
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>
>
>
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel.
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at
> all.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:
>
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press
> work around action?
>
> --
> Curtis Delzer
> H.S.
> K6VFO
>   Rialto, CA
> cur...@calweb.com
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Haptic sensors in iPhone SE.

[deidre muccio]

That is because the home button does not click, it has haptic motion sensors… 
Added little springs. Those settings can be tweaked. I don’t happen to like it 
or didn’t at first but I pretty much ignore it now and have as much of that 
turned off as I can.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> 
> It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
> not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what 
> feels more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, 
> rather than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first 
> generation SE.  Hard to describe.
>  
> Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I 
> am feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from 
> the button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.
>  
> The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
> because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
> back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was 
> a line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
> other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would 
> have to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  
> Back then we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added 
> new prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
> letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers.
>  
> Those were the days. . .
>  
> Karen P
>  
> From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>  
> I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? 
> I could be wrong about that. 
> Kind regards,
> Crayton Benner
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
>  
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
> water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> James B  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Michael Feir
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>  
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
> work around action?
> 
> -- 
> Curtis Delzer
> H.S.
> K6VFO
>   Rialto, CA
> cur...@calweb.com
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RE: iPhone SE.

[Karen Poulakos]

It’s really hard for me to tell whether the Home button is actually moving or 
not.  I’ve heard that it doesn’t.  When I put pressure on it, I feel what feels 
more like a slight knock, or a single vibration, in the phone itself, rather 
than under my finger.  It’s a different response than with my first generation 
SE.  Hard to describe.

 

Ok, I just pulled out my old phone.  That button moves much more than what I am 
feeling with my new phone.  There was also a slight clicking sound from the 
button on my old SE.  I don’t think the button on the SE2022 is moving.

 

The functionality of these devices is totally amazing to me.  Guess that’s 
because I remember when phones were wired into our homes.  When I was young, 
back in the 50’s, we even had a Party line.  For you younger people, that was a 
line shared between 2 or more families, who may not even live next to each 
other.  If you picked up the receiver and heard someone talking, you would have 
to hang up and wait till they were finished before making your call.  Back then 
we only had to dial 5 digits to make a local call, until they added new 
prefixes, then it was 7 digits.  And the first 2 digits were indicated by 
letters of the alphabet, rather than numbers. 

 

Those were the days. . .

 

Karen P

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner





On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

-- 
Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
  Rialto, CA
cur...@calweb.com

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RE: iPhone SE.

[Dennis Long]

You are not.  However I have heard the iPhone SE third gen will be the last 
with a home button.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone SE.

 

If I am understanding this correct, there is the newist third gen SE, then, the 
second Gen, and the very old first Generation.  Only the old phone has a 
phisical home button which can eventually allow water inside the phone or wear 
out.

 

The newer phones have a haptic feel that mimicks the press of a spring loaded 
button but it is not a mechanical button at all.

 

Someone let us know if I am incorrect.  It wouldn’t be the first time.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner

 

On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer mailto:cur...@calweb.com> > wrote:

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?

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RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

If I am understanding this correct, there is the newist third gen SE, then, the 
second Gen, and the very old first Generation.  Only the old phone has a 
phisical home button which can eventually allow water inside the phone or wear 
out.

 

The newer phones have a haptic feel that mimicks the press of a spring loaded 
button but it is not a mechanical button at all.

 

Someone let us know if I am incorrect.  It wouldn’t be the first time.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 

Kind regards,

Crayton Benner





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<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

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I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
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Re: iPhone SE.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yes. It does handle finger prints just like the older phones did. Same process 
too. 
Kind regards, 
Crayton Benner

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 08:27, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
> Curtis,
> 
> I got the new SE a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy with it.  I chose 
> it because I'm not ready to give up the home button just yet.  The home 
> button does have a different feel.  When you put your finger on the screen, 
> you feel a round spot at the bottom of the screen, which feels like you would 
> expect the home button to feel, however They say it isn't an actual button.  
> When you put pressure on it, it doesn't move, but you do feel the response of 
> the phone as a single vibration in the phone itself, rather than under your 
> finger.  , The intensity of the response is adjustable in the Settings menu.  
>  
> 
> You can tell your friend that it does handle fingerprints just like the older 
> phones. 
> 
> Karen P
> 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone SE.
> 
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
> work around action?
> 
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Re: iPhone SE.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

Yep. I am right there with you. I don’t miss the home button personally either. 

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 06:18, Michael Feir  wrote:
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> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  > wrote:
> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
> work around action?
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Re: iPhone SE.

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that. 
Kind regards,
Crayton Benner

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, bentleyj1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
> water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> James B  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: iPhone SE.
>  
> Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out 
> over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way 
> to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for 
> VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics 
> to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. 
> Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling 
> the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at 
> all.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  <mailto:cur...@calweb.com>> wrote:
>> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
>> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
>> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
>> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
>> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
>> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
>> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
>> work around action?
>> 
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RE: iPhone SE.

[Karen Poulakos]

Curtis,

I got the new SE a couple of weeks ago, and am very happy with it.  I chose it 
because I'm not ready to give up the home button just yet.  The home button 
does have a different feel.  When you put your finger on the screen, you feel a 
round spot at the bottom of the screen, which feels like you would expect the 
home button to feel, however They say it isn't an actual button.  When you put 
pressure on it, it doesn't move, but you do feel the response of the phone as a 
single vibration in the phone itself, rather than under your finger.  , The 
intensity of the response is adjustable in the Settings menu.   

You can tell your friend that it does handle fingerprints just like the older 
phones. 

Karen P

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Curtis Delzer
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone SE.

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
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RE: iPhone SE.

[bentleyj1952]

The home button on the SE second and third generation can’t wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

 

Regards,

 

James B  

 

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Feir
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Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

 

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

 

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I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
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contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
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Re: iPhone SE.

[Michael Feir]

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out
over time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One
way to feel the results of the gestures which replace the home button for
VoiceOver usders is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics
to a higher percent. This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel.
Personally, even without taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling
the bumps even when I can't hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button
at all.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer  wrote:

> I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
> tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
> I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple
> not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I
> contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that
> little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can
> you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press
> work around action?
>
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iPhone SE.

[Curtis Delzer]

I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I 
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways 
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple 
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I 
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that 
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can 
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press 
work around action?


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RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[khevener]

Richard was spot on with his suggestion about checking the volume control.  
Hope that will work for u as well.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

I also have  and older  SE and  having the same problem. In fact, I often have 
to power down completely. No idea why

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Jul 7, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Julie Dawson mailto:julie.magnoli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Is anyone having trouble double tapping to end a phone call. I am using the 
older SE. I am also having trouble with VO lsoing speech and having to turn 
speech on to reactivate speech.

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

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Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:56 PM

Subject: RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.

 

You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the up 
volume button until you hear something.

 

Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.

 

Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 

礪

 

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Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is on 
according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, I’m 
back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and settings 
heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

 

Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a supervisor 
and there was no one above her.  

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Re: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

This sounds suspiciously like you may have "screen recognition" turned on for 
an app that is already fully accessible. Check this seting in:
Settings/Accessibility/Voiceover/Voiceover Recognition/Screen Recognition.

If it is on, try turning it off then going back to the app you were using. 

Good luck,

Dave Clement
Winnipeg, MB


On Jul 7, 2022, at 3:45 PM, chaim biberfeld  wrote:

I also have  and older  SE and  having the same problem. In fact, I often have 
to power down completely. No idea why

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

> On Jul 7, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone having trouble double tapping to end a phone call. I am using the 
> older SE. I am also having trouble with VO lsoing speech and having to turn 
> speech on to reactivate speech.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over
> 
> Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.
>  
> You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
> already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the 
> up volume button until you hear something.
>  
> Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.
>  
> Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over
>  
> I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is 
> on according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
> up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
> the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, 
> I’m back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and 
> settings heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help . 
>  
> Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
> suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a 
> supervisor and there was no one above her. 
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RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[khevener]

Richard, you are a true genius!!!  The “change with” button was off.  Because I 
could hear what siri was saying, hear the phone ringing, and hear conversations 
okay, I thought my volume was okay.  Good lesson and thank you so much for your 
help.  You knew far more than the apple accessibility rep did.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.

 

You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the up 
volume button until you hear something.

 

Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.

 

Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/> 

礪

 

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Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is on 
according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, I’m 
back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and settings 
heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

 

Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a supervisor 
and there was no one above her.  

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Re: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[chaim biberfeld]

I also have  and older  SE and  having the same problem. In fact, I often have 
to power down completely. No idea why

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> On Jul 7, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is anyone having trouble double tapping to end a phone call. I am using the 
> older SE. I am also having trouble with VO lsoing speech and having to turn 
> speech on to reactivate speech.
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over
> 
> Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.
>  
> You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
> already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the 
> up volume button until you hear something.
>  
> Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.
>  
> Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 礪
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> kheve...@fuse.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over
>  
> I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is 
> on according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
> up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
> the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, 
> I’m back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and 
> settings heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help . 
>  
> Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
> suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a 
> supervisor and there was no one above her. 
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Re: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[Julie Dawson]

Is anyone having trouble double tapping to end a phone call. I am using the 
older SE. I am also having trouble with VO lsoing speech and having to turn 
speech on to reactivate speech.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:56 PM
  Subject: RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over


  Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.

   

  You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the up 
volume button until you hear something.

   

  Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.

   

  Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.

   

   

   

  Richard

  “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

   

  My web site: https://www.turner42.com

  礪

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
  Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 10:55 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

   

  I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is 
on according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, I’m 
back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and settings 
heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

   

  Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a supervisor 
and there was no one above her.  

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RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[Carolyn]

Do you think Speech is off? Try a two-finger double tap on your screen. If it 
says speech off, of course, repeat, so that it will then say Speech on. 

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I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is on 
according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, I’m 
back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and settings 
heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

 

Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a supervisor 
and there was no one above her.  

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RE: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[Richard Turner]

Try a three finger double tap to toggle speech on.

 

You should hear it say, speech on.  If it says speech off, then speech was 
already on and you may have to try getting VoiceOver reading and tapping the up 
volume button until you hear something.

 

Your volume may have gotten turned down too far.

 

Make sure under Settings, Sounds and Haptics, that change with buttons is off.

 

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

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kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

 

I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is on 
according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or 
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on 
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends, I’m 
back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and settings 
heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

 

Btw, I called apple accessibility.  The rep really could not help.  When I 
suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a supervisor 
and there was no one above her.  

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trouble accessing screen on iPhone se 2020 using voice over

[khevener]

I can not tell what is on my screen.  Siri says voice over is on.  Speech is
on according to my braille display.  However, when I move left and right or
up/down, nothing is spoken.  I powered off and back on.  No change.  When on
the phone, I could hear info being spoken.  But, as soon as the call ends,
I'm back to nothing.  At most, I was able to hear it say lisen button and
settings heading.  I hope I have given u enough info to help .  

 

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suggested she transfer me to her supervisor, she said that she was a
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RE: IPHONE SE 2022 AND CONVERTING AN EMAIL INTO A TEXT

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Clement
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 02:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPHONE SE 2022 AND CONVERTING AN EMAIL INTO A TEXT

 

Hi, 

 

Here's the way I do it on my iphone. There are likely other and better ways to 
do it as well.

 

1.Open the email in the Apple Mail app.

2.Turn the rotor to "text select".

3.Flick down to the "select all" option then flick right.

4.Turn the rotor back to edit and choose "copy"

5.Open the Messages app and prepare to send a new message to the person you 
want.

6.Again use the rotor to go to edit then choose the paste option.

7.Send the message. 

 

Hope this helps. 

 

Dave Clement

Winnipeg MB

 


On May 27, 2022, at 11:22 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. mailto:fiore...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Good morning:

 

I have the body of an email that I want to convert to a text to send to 
someone, as that person cannot get my email.

 

Can't seem to figure out how to do that. 

 

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Re: IPHONE SE 2022 AND CONVERTING AN EMAIL INTO A TEXT

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

Here's the way I do it on my iphone. There are likely other and better ways to 
do it as well.

1.Open the email in the Apple Mail app.
2.Turn the rotor to "text select".
3.Flick down to the "select all" option then flick right.
4.Turn the rotor back to edit and choose "copy"
5.Open the Messages app and prepare to send a new message to the person you 
want.
6.Again use the rotor to go to edit then choose the paste option.
7.Send the message. 

Hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


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Good morning:
 
I have the body of an email that I want to convert to a text to send to 
someone, as that person cannot get my email.
 
Can't seem to figure out how to do that.
 
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IPHONE SE 2022 AND CONVERTING AN EMAIL INTO A TEXT

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning:

 

I have the body of an email that I want to convert to a text to send to 
someone, as that person cannot get my email.

 

Can't seem to figure out how to do that. 

 

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Re: HARD SHUTDOWN ON THE IPHONE SE 2022

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi John,

Press volume Up, then Volume Down, then hold the Power button for 10 seconds.

Best,
Anna


> On Apr 21, 2022, at 4:23 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> Good morning:
>  
> Can someone tell me how to perform a hard reset        on the iPhone SE 
> 2022?
>  
> Thanks. 
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HARD SHUTDOWN ON THE IPHONE SE 2022

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning:

 

Can someone tell me how to perform a hard reseton the iPhone SE 
2022?

 

Thanks. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 01:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: my iPhone and notifications

 

Casey,

 

Make sure you check your focus setting in Control Center to ensure Do not 
disturb is not turned on.  You can go to Control Center by placing focus on 
something in the top status line such as time and then doing a 3 finger swipe 
up. You can then single finger swipe right to get to Focus to ensure it is not 
turned on. When Do not disturb is turned on here, you will still receive 
notifications but they won’t be announced by Voiceover when they come in. 
You’ll have to place focus on the status line and do a 3 finger swipe down to 
access your notifications.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Casey Wollner
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: my iPhone and notifications

 

Hi I don't have it muted.

Just not receiving no notifactions at all.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: my iPhone and notifications

 

Did the mute button accidentally get pressed? It is the button on the side of 
the phone just above the volume buttons.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

 

On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Casey Wollner mailto:cwoll...@wi.rr.com> > wrote:



Hi starting sometime yesterday afternoon.

My phone isn't giving me the new notification sound I can see the notifications 
but I don't seem to be getting them.

As I said that this just started yesterday afternoon.

I have A T and T wireless and I do have wi-fi calling on and do not have 
airplane mode on.

So I also have powered my phone off and back on again.

Still nothing.

I can get and make calls so do I need to update all of my apps and if so how do 
you do that in one shot?

Or is there something else that I need to do I really don't want to reset the 
hole phone?

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HARD SHUTDOWN ON THE IPHONE SE 2022

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning:

 

Can someone tell me how to perform a hard reseton the iPhone SE
2022?

 

Thanks. 

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Re: Performing a reset on an iPhone SE

[Scott Davert]

No headphone jack means it's a second gen SE. Another way to tell is
whether the Home button presses down or gives haptic feedback. if you
can physically press the button and feel it click with the Home
button, it's a first gen SE.

Good luck
Scott

On 3/18/22, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> Thanks Alan. I had not considered the presence or lack of a headphone
> jack as a defining factor. I have an iPhone SE as a work phone, and
> mine does not have a headphone jack, which means I've got the SE 2020.
> I should see him today and can help him determine which model he has.
>
> Respectfully,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 3/17/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Wayne,
>>
>>
>>
>> Your student needs to determine whether he has an iPhone SE first
>> generation
>> or SE second generation commonly called the SE 2020. The first generation
>> model is physically smaller than the SE 2020 which is the same physical
>> size
>> as the iPhone 7 and 8. Also, the first generation SE has a headphone jack
>> while the SE 2020 does not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is how to reset for both models:
>>
>>
>>
>> *SE first generation: Press and hold both the right side power button
>> and
>> the Home button at the same time. I would recommend holding them for at
>> least 12 seconds. The Apple logo will appear but this is entirely visual
>> with no audible cues. Release both buttons after 12 seconds.
>> *SE 2020:  Press and release the volume up button (top left side)
>> quickly
>> followed by a quick press and release of the volume down button (middle
>> left side just below volume up) and then press and hold the right side
>> power
>> button for about 12 seconds and then release.
>>
>>
>>
>> Users will be required to enter their device’s passcode after doing a
>> reset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Wayne
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 10:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Performing a reset on an iPhone SE
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello. One of my students has an iPhone SE. He is not sure of the model
>> or
>> year number. I thought there was a way I could have him do a software
>> reset
>> using the home and power buttons. I did a YouTube search and those videos
>> said to use the volume and side buttons and not the home button. Could
>> someone clear this up for me and give steps for doing a software reset?
>> He
>> is having an issue with Siri and the phone's speech coming out of the
>> handset versus from the speaker. I thought that perhaps a reset would fix
>> the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 11
>>
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