Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 3/9/2006 7:01:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, this is the basis of Sir Grimer's Beta-atmosphere conjecture. However, if you actually read the posts (input vs. output) on this list you would know this.Regards,Terry I tried to find the above conjecture at the vortex-l email archive athttp://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/but the find searchengine does not work. Then I did a complete word search of the VortexB 2001 - present (.txt) (large!) and could not find anything. I then I did a google search and the only thing I could find with Sir Gimmer was below: Northvegr - Sigurd the Dragon-Slayer Sir Grimmer Sir Germer They push away from shore; Wild the storm-wind waxes, loud the billows roar. GRIMILD'S REVENGE 191 ...www.northvegr.org/lore/sigurd/033.php - 38k - Cached - Similarpages
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 3/10/2006 8:33:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then fnord what's the point of reading?Terry When I speed read, I do pick up the general idea and remember the basic facts and figures. I then save all of the emails you post on DVD's, and print most of them on hard copy paper to save in files, and read the emails that interested me the mostlater when I have more time.I read most of the patents posted in detail. I planto use the patents, and other pertinent email poststo develop products for mypre-planned, self sustaining community ventures. I also hoped to start a library someday to preserve the email posts, and some of the books I have collected on alternative energy.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
-Original Message- From: ThomasClark123 I read many of the posts but I missed the above. I also speed read, so that sometimes I miss much. Then fnord what's the point of reading? Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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Original Message- From: ThomasClark123 According to the Unity of Creation Theory (The cosmic matrix piece for a jigsaw puzzle part 2- Leonard G. Cramp), gravity is simply a deficit of 1g on Earth between creative rays (cosmic/ether/compressed magnetic rays) that push upon Earth from the atmosphere with a higher force, Yes, this is the basis of Sir Grimer's Beta-atmosphere conjecture. However, if you actually read the posts (input vs. output) on this list you would know this. Regards, Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 3/9/2006 7:01:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, this is the basis of Sir Grimer's Beta-atmosphere conjecture. However, if you actually read the posts (input vs. output) on this list you would know this.Regards,Terry I read many of the posts but I missed the above. I also speed read, so that sometimes I miss much.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/20/2005 3:23:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:43:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here below is a link to an article that discusses how to make hoverboards and hovercars work based on Forcefield Air-cushion Technology: http://www.spacemagnetics.com/hovercraft/faq_hovercraft.htmlThe page is silly; it's about "ferrofluid-glob technology," not aboutair-cushions or force fields.This site strongly resembles one of the many "fake plans websites" thatplague the Free Energy arena. When "Back to the Future" first came out,there were some fake-plans companies selling stuff as well. The creatorsof these sites don't have any working technology, and their intent is tosell expensive plans which do not work. Don't trust them, and certainlydon't spend your money. See: I had a chance to read more of the Hovertech Designs pdf. I purchased at http://www.spacemagnetics.com/, which discussed some experiments such as Electrostatic repulsion-Levitation Experiment, Magnetic Ion Containment-Magnetic Bottle Experiment, Electrostatic Ion Containment - Ion Pressure Experiment, Paramagnetic Levitation - Paramagnetic Gas Experiment, Multi-Surface Maglev - Maglev Experiment. And which gives plans to build a Van De Graaff Generator, a High Voltage Power Supply, an Ion Detector, a Gauss Meter as well as an Ion Cloud chamber to perform the experiments. They also have a program at their web site used to fine tune the containment coil used in the magnetic bottle experiment which traps a gas and liked charged ions with magnets to create a gasionic air cushion that reduces the overall charge needed to lift the same weight. They plan to publish a more detailed report on the above ideas later. The last names of some of the writers of the Hovertech Designs.pdf, Bertrandas in Bertrand Russelland Ford as in Henry Ford, hint that the Ford Motor Company and theUnited Kingdom's classified researcher's and scientists may beencouraging and leaking out some of the ideaspresented inthe above projects. With General Motors filing for bankruptcy and potentially moving to Mexico, the Ford Company may be the one last hope that the USA has inmaintaining its automotive industry. Perhaps Ford has plans to build hover cars in the USA in the future to provide more USA jobs. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 11/7/2005 11:24:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find these posts highly entertaining mostly because they remind me of the consultant gobbledygook generator... http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/generator.html Thanks for the above link. The gobbledygook generator has many potentials, that if improved with a little bit of Artificial Intelligence and expertise built in, could prove to outwit if not entertain Arthur C. Clarks computer called Hal as depicted inhis book A space oddesy: 2010. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
RE: [A-albionic_Subscription] Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
Title: Message I find these posts highly entertaining mostly because they remind me of the consultant gobbledygook generator... http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/generator.html For those comfortable with editing a simple _javascript_ array, you can modify the inputsof this script with the pervasive jargon below and generate seemingly identical and indistinguishable nonsensical messages of your very own. 8^) -john -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vortex-l@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [A-albionic_Subscription] Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars In a message dated 10/27/2005 2:55:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More on J. Searl's devices and other topics are contained in articles at The Institute for New Energy website:http://www.padrak.com/ine/ Thanks for the links on the Searl engine. I read in the Scalar Waves book by Konstantine Meyl, that the Searl Engines captured and used neutrino energies that come form the sun. Some of the Searl tiny flying saucers which went out of control flew directly into the sun since they followed the neutrinos to the source in the sun. The sun being a black whole that leads to the center of the universe collects and resonates with neutrinos from the other stars at the center of the Universe. Ships made of light energy by means of tesla teleportation coils which transmute matter into light as in the Philadelphia experiment, can slip through the black whole in the sun to travel to the center of the universe and other star systems by means of the solar star network. Information made of light energy can also be transmitted between the universal solar star network from any sun to the center of the universe to any other sun. Traveling through the sun's black whole along the energyrifts and around energy vortexes that lead to other places in the universe in the 4th dimensioncan be dangerous since it is alleged that only machines or persons specially trained with brains genetically engineered to see the energy rifts in the 4th dimension may navigates ships safely. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: [A-albionic_Subscription] Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/27/2005 2:55:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More on J. Searl's devices and other topics are contained in articles at The Institute for New Energy website:http://www.padrak.com/ine/ Thanks for the links on the Searl engine. I read in the Scalar Waves book by Konstantine Meyl, that the Searl Engines captured and used neutrino energies that come form the sun. Some of the Searl tiny flying saucers which went out of control flew directly into the sun since they followed the neutrinos to the source in the sun. The sun being a black whole that leads to the center of the universe collects and resonates with neutrinos from the other stars at the center of the Universe. Ships made of light energy by means of tesla teleportation coils which transmute matter into light as in the Philadelphia experiment, can slip through the black whole in the sun to travel to the center of the universe and other star systems by means of the solar star network. Information made of light energy can also be transmitted between the universal solar star network from any sun to the center of the universe to any other sun. Traveling through the sun's black whole along the energyrifts and around energy vortexes that lead to other places in the universe in the 4th dimensioncan be dangerous since it is alleged that only machines or persons specially trained with brains genetically engineered to see the energy rifts in the 4th dimension may navigates ships safely. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: OT: Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: orionworks I get the impression that you have not read Sagan's book, Deamon-Haunted World, specifically the chapter The Dragon in my Garage. I read the synopsis of Sagan's book Deamon-Haunted World on the Internet which said he debunked most claims about E.T.'s, Atlantis, and flying saucers, since I could not find a copy of his book in the Library. That's a pity. But the title of Sagan's book hints that he could not tell the truth about' E.T.'s living amongst us, since our world is haunted by Daemons who repress such knowledge publicly and may prevent him from speaking about it. Sagan debunked uncritical thinking about UFOs, ETs, Atlantis, and flying saucers, not the subject itself. BIG difference. In fact I suspect he had a lot to say on some of these subjects, and particularly on the possibility of ETs having visited our planet. Careful research on Sagan's earlier writings indicates that earlier in his career he was more forthcoming. In Argosy magazine, published back in 1975 the following paragraph might be of interest: * * * * * * * * Basing his estimate on just one space launching per year by 1,000,000 stars, Sagan believes the earth would have been visited once every 10,000 years. Since our planet is 5,000,000,000 years old, this means that it may have received some 50,000 visits by alien intelligences - one of which may have taken place within historical times. * * * * * * * * ...and here's another interesting piece on Sagan, published in Popular Science Magazine, March 1997, by Arthur Fisher just after Sagan's death. * * * * * * * * ...I interviewed [Sagan] in Washington, D.C., after Mariner 9 had sent back spectacular pictures of the Martian surface. Sagan had acted as head of one of Mariner's imaging teams. That interview, close-up Photos Reveal a Turbulent Mars, appeared in Popular Science in September 1972. I had originally headlined the story The Red Planet Isn't Dead, but Sagan pleaded with me to change it. I'm in enough hot water with some of my colleagues as it is, he said, referring to the resentment felt in conservative scientific quarters over his growing fame as a popularizer. * * * * * * * * Indeed Sagan learned later in his career to be more cautious about expressing certain personal opinions that were not necessarily held by the scientific establishment, particularly on subjects like ET visitations. He knew what side of the bread the butter was spread on - and his career as a popular scientist profited handsomely as a result of exploiting that realization. One does not, however, need to conjure up with mythic interpretations implying that Sagan stopped telling the truth because ...our world is haunted by Daemons who repress such knowledge publicly. Your writings indicate to me that you either have a difficult time with, or you simply chose not to distinguish the difference between mythic reality and scientific reality. Both are in my view absolutely important for a fuller more balanced perception on reality, but only if one can distinguish the difference. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
OT: Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
The Baron sez: OrionWorks sez: Ok... I have some free time - it's my lunch break. Since we are talking about the writings of weighty authors might I suggest another individual, Carl Sagan, specifically his book Demon-Haunted World - Chapter 10 titled: The Dragon in my Garage. The reference to Carl Sagan reminded me that a gyroscope was used in the Contact movie to cause a ship to teleport into the 4th dimension. Forth dimension? This then caused me to reverse engineer Sagan's gyroscope teleportation force field engine. Reverse engineer? If we assume that the high frequency rotating gyroscopes placed around the ship creates complex super vortex patterns in all 3 directions, then we can postulate that the high frequency rotating gyroscopes jam out normal gravity and 3d space energies in all directions to cause the ship to be placed into the 4th dimension of pure energy where time and space are very different. An assumption is made, and then a postulation based on that assumption. How much do you bet on your assumptions? Sagan's gyroscopic force field engine can also be used to cause a ship to levitate by canceling out gravity waves and energies along the gravity plane. Perhaps to get a ship to levitate rather than teleport in the 4th dimension some of the HF gyroscopic force field engines may be slowed down or only rotated along the gravity planes to just jam out gravity and not 3d space energies. In other words, if we build what we saw in the movies it must work as advertised. I get the impression that you have not read Sagan's book, Deamon-Haunted World, specifically the chapter The Dragon in my Garage. Making a difference one person at a time Get informed. Inform others. If only... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
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Baron sez: ... The Harry Potter novels speak about communities on Earth which make it illegal to speak about their communities if you wish to be a part of their community. In some communities which already know how to make cars fly, it is illegal to fly them due to the United Kingdom Ministry of Magic (Beam energy computer control of airspace on Earth) which prevents such cars from being made and used. However hover cars do not fly, they simply hover a few inches above the ground, and are not covered by UK laws that forbid flying cars. Since we are talking about the writings of weighty authors might I suggest another individual, Carl Sagan, specifically his book Demon-Haunted World - Chapter 10 titled: The Dragon in my Garage. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/21/2005 10:04:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since we are talking about the writings of weighty authors might I suggest another individual, Carl Sagan, specifically his book "Demon-Haunted World" - Chapter 10 titled: "The Dragon in my Garage."Regards,Steven Vincent Johnsonwww.OrionWorks.com Thank you for the reference to Carl Sagan. I liked his Contact
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In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:43:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here below is a link to an article that discusses how to make hoverboards and hovercars work based on Forcefield Air-cushion Technology: http://www.spacemagnetics.com/hovercraft/faq_hovercraft.html I just bought a copy of their Hoverboard design notes at the above link, which is very professionally written. It mentions a patent that presently exists for electrostatically levitated vehicles (Patent 3,095,167, filed June 1975 by H.C. Dudley) to propel a missile from Earth by using a high charge on the order of 400,000 to 500,00 volts that can be used to raise the charge on a hoverboard to compensate for the difference in charge between the board and the ground. The problem is to maintain such a high charge with such close distance to the ground. The above design notes that I purchased also give a practical design answer that works using ions and microwaves with electrostatics but which has to be researched more andfine tuned tobemass produced.
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 11:43:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here below is a link to an article that discusses how to make hoverboards and hovercars work based on Forcefield Air-cushion Technology: http://www.spacemagnetics.com/hovercraft/faq_hovercraft.html The page is silly; it's about ferrofluid-glob technology, not about air-cushions or force fields. This site strongly resembles one of the many fake plans websites that plague the Free Energy arena. When Back to the Future first came out, there were some fake-plans companies selling stuff as well. The creators of these sites don't have any working technology, and their intent is to sell expensive plans which do not work. Don't trust them, and certainly don't spend your money. See: FREE ENERGY FAQ: But plans are for sale! http://amasci.com/freenrg/fefaq.html#plans I just bought a copy of their Hoverboard design notes at the above link, Ask yourself this question: if the design notes are a bunch of untried speculations, and the authors are actually some college kids (or even high-school kids) trying to make money by selling stuff on the internet, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY FOR THEIR DESIGN NOTES? My own answer would be: zero. I wouldn't spend any money, since I probably can come up with much better speculations than dishonest non-scientists who are trying to gain customers rather than trying to advance the research. Also, always ignore fancy blueprints: they're aimed at gullible people who can be deceived by surface appearances. The above design notes that I purchased also give a practical design answer that works using ions and microwaves with electrostatics but which has to be researched more and fine tuned to be mass produced. Meaning, they haven't tried it themselves, that's why they can't post any photos of their experiments. Go look at the J. L. Naudin site if you want to see how genuine alt-science experimenters behave. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/20/2005 3:23:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Meaning, "they haven't tried it themselves, that's why they can't post anyphotos of their experiments." Go look at the J. L. Naudin site if youwant to see how genuine alt-science experimenters behave. Thanks for the reference to the above website. I was looking for it but I forgot its location. I found a good article that was posted a few years ago at this site on a ufo plasma engine: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/ufoplasmaengine.htm. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
From: ThomasClark123 ... Thanks for the reference to the above website. I was looking for it but I forgot its location. I found a good article that was posted a few years ago at this site on a ufo plasma engine: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/ufoplasmaengine.htm . Greetings Baron, Excuse me for butting in here... I was going to suggest that you might want to focus the creative energies of your inner light more in the manner of mythic interpretive tales, but then, after browsing some of your web links I see that is precisely what you do! For example, I see you've published poems and tales in Praise of Plato's Elysium and other scholarly subjects as well. That impresses me. For what it's worth, the problem with expressing the universe in mythological terms and then speculating on scientific technologies (particularly speculative ones) is when one can not or is unwilling to distinguish the difference between the two realities. Both perceptions of reality are absolutely necessary. Both are absolutely needed. But both perceptions are absolutely not the same. I think it would also be helpful to review and test the contents of Inspired Writing (including what some would call channeled messages) in the same rigorous manner that any collected scientific data must endure. This harkens back to my previous comment that if one can not or is unwilling to distinguish the difference between the two perceptions of reality then one is in danger of loosing touch with the unique strengths both universes offer and how, when understood, both can complement and nurture the growth of our individual psyches. As you say: Get informed. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/20/2005 5:28:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it would also be helpful to review and test the contents of Inspired Writing (including what some would call "channeled" messages) in the same rigorous manner that any collected scientific "data" must endure. This harkens back to my previous comment that if one can not or is unwilling to distinguish the difference between the two perceptions of reality then one is in danger of loosing touch with the unique strengths both universes offer and how, when understood, both can complement and nurture the growth of our individual psyches. We all think with the two parts of our brain (logical) and (dreaming)at the same time which is bipolar thinking, and some think with many more parts of their brain in parallel which is multipolar and which creates a new form of logic and science which is multi-logicalthat defines truth as becoming trueor false in a more vague probabilistic manner depending on the data given for any given universe of being which defines our subconscious mind and our reality. Oxford University throws out any students or professors who dare teachlogicbased on five levels of truthhood that may define how our subconscious mind works, since then we may model our subconscious mind computationally so as to be able to engineer our present by means of computational dream engineering. I think along many different parallel timelines and possible realities all at once at every moment in time, since the future(s) and past(s) may always be changing due to time travel and other choices we all may make in the present(s). B.F. Skinner mentioned in his Walden II novel that in his communities the past is forgotten, and new archetypes of the present and future are engineered so that the members of the communities may live and think and dream in new ways. I do have a part of me which is purely scientific and logical, and another part which is mythological and dreaming, since we can not altogether forget our distant Jungian historical archetypes that we may have inherited from the past, which perhaps we should honor and upgrade and rewrite in a better way to make a better future for ourselves and others in the future and a better past for our distant ancestors whomay bedependent on what we do and think todayas we may be dependent on them. The Harry Potter novels speak about communities on Earth which make it illegal to speak about their communities if you wish to be a part of their community. In some communities which already know how to make cars fly, it is illegal to fly them due to the United Kingdom Ministry of Magic (Beam energy computer control of airspace on Earth) which prevents such cars from being made and used. However hover cars do not fly, they simply hover a few inches above the ground, and are not covered by UK laws that forbid flying cars. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/13/2005 8:36:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here below is a link to an article that discusses how to make hoverboards and hovercars work based on Forcefield Air-cushion Technology: http://www.spacemagnetics.com/hovercraft/faq_hovercraft.html I just bought a copy of their Hoverboard design notes at the above link, which is very professionally written. It mentions a patent that presently exists for electrostatically levitated vehicles (Patent 3,095,167, filed June 1975 by H.C. Dudley) to propel a missile from Earth by using a high charge on the order of 400,000 to 500,00 volts that can be used to raise the charge on a hoverboard to compensate for the difference in charge between the board and the ground. The problem is to maintain such a high charge with such close distance to the ground.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/7/2005 5:15:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you ever figure out what Keely was talking about, and get a design for that machine Baron we'd all love to see it. In Keely's day in the 1800's, according to Konstantine Meyl, in his book Scalar Waves, there were more neutrino energies in the atmosphere than there are today. Keely's technologies may only work if the density of neutrino energies are higher than they are today. However I have figured out that the vortexpipes and funnels used by Keely in many of his devices, may have been used to amplify and focus electrostatic energies into a vortex to cause them to then increase the amount of neutrino energies in and around the devices to cause them work. I have postulated that if we were to place hundreds of pipes in seriesinside of an ovalpiece of metal used as a base for a hover car, and then placed a dozen tiny ram jet like funnels and bed spring like wiresinside ofeach pipe, then this may cause the electrostatic energies around the hover car to be increased and to form into thousands of tiny vortexes, which may increase the neutrino density energies under the hover car to form a cold plasma which if pressurized properly could form a high pressure field which could cause the hover car to levitate a few feet above the ground. If the above technologies were made to work, then we could miniaturize the pipes and ram jet funnels by using nanotechnologies, to increase the electrostatic forces, and neutrino energy forces millions of times more, by increasing the number of pipes and ram jets per square inch to many millions, which would allow us to get more power per square inch and define the levitation height desired preciselyby the number of nano-tech vortex chips placed in the metal bodyofeach hover car. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
Here below is a link to an article that discusses how to make hoverboards and hovercars work based on Forcefield Air-cushion Technology: http://www.spacemagnetics.com/hovercraft/faq_hovercraft.html The link above also sells plans to their hoverboard designs which include discussions on electrostatic surface repulsion, a magnetic bottle to contain ionized air, a rotating spark column, paramagnetic air cushion, diamagnetic repulsion, and ferrofluidic forcefields. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
Title: Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars Ha la, ha la, the Baron's back. In a message dated 10/6/2005 4:49:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean practical? As far as I'm aware, nobody has ever demonstrated any sort of electrostatic hover effect which can lift large There was an article published in either Popular Science or Mechanics in the 1950's about the flying bed spring. It levitated itself. It worked great until it hit the end of the drop cord. Of course it consumed more power per unit of weight levitated than a rocket, I have not tested such ideas yet but John W. Keely demonstrated a hover like car in 1800's which may have worked off of vibratory acoustics.I just assumed that the If you ever figure out what Keely was talking about, and get a design for that machine Baron we'd all love to see it.
Electrostatic Hover Cars
Electrostatic Hover Cars Electrostatic hovers cars which operate by utilizing high voltage electrostatic repulsion forces (Biefeld/Browneffect, Polarity plus on top side and negative on bottom side of thecar's shell with a neutral band around the middle edge.)are discussed in many models of flying saucer plans as postedat (http://www.zephyrtechnology.com/UFO_Technology/Build_Flying_Saucer_/body_build_flying_saucer_.html). However an electrostatichover car which hovers just a few inches to a few feet above the ground and no more, may prove to be more practical,legaland easier to build than a flying saucer, since the cars strictly speaking do not fly but simply hover just above the ground and no flying license would be needed to use them.Someadvantages of electrostatic hover cars are that they are noiseless, do not wear out roads, nor needroadsor tires. Electrostatic hover cars if ever built to work, could only be practically and realistically developed for small preplaned communities which have been designed to use such cars and which collectively agreed to use such cars which would not effect the mass economy or car industry for at least a hundred years. A company trust which decides to build a preplaned community could then make an agreement with an automobile manufacturer to build the electrostatic car body and engine parts since the number of cars built would be many thousands and would not effect the mass market or economy so that automobile companies may be willing to builds such cars. Preplaned communities which have agreed to use electrostatic hovercars can also agree to use computer systems in the cars which are preprogrammed to monitor the speed limit of the car, and to cause the car to avoid all dangerous objects by slowing down or moving around them. Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However an electrostatic hover car which hovers just a few inches to a few feet above the ground and no more, may prove to be more practical, legal and easier to build than a flying saucer, since the cars strictly speaking do not fly but simply hover just above the ground and no flying license would be needed to use them. Some advantages of electrostatic hover cars are that they are noiseless, do not wear out roads, nor need roads or tires. What do you mean practical? As far as I'm aware, nobody has ever demonstrated any sort of electrostatic hover effect which can lift large mass. (Have you?) On the contrary, a charged pair of planes as you describe should be attracted downwards towards the slightly-conducting Earth surface, no? (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: Electrostatic Hover Cars
In a message dated 10/6/2005 4:49:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean "practical?" As far as I'm aware, nobody has everdemonstrated any sort of electrostatic "hover" effect which can lift largemass. (Have you?) On the contrary, a charged pair of planes as youdescribe should be attracted downwards towards the slightly-conductingEarth surface, no? I have not tested such ideas yet but John W. Keely demonstrated a hover like car in 1800's which may have worked off of vibratory acoustics.I just assumed that the saucer pages that I read had tested some of their ideas. Also the Michael J. Fox Back to the Future Movies seem to indicate that hover skate boards work somehow in the near future? Baron Von Volsung, http://www.rhfweb.com/baron, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.htmlPresident Thomas D. Clark, Email: http://www.rhfweb.com/emailform.html, Personal Web Page: http://www.rhfweb.com/personalNew Age Production's Inc., http://www.rhfweb.com/newageStar Haven Community Services, at http://www.rhfweb.com/shRadiation Health Foundation Trust at http://www.rhfweb.com/Making a difference one person at a timeGet informed. Inform others.
