RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
Well, yes I agree see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on wormholes, entanglement and the effect on quarks as basis for a global gravitation theory and spooky action at a distance. Teleportation and instantaneous communication between Bob and Alice thru entanglement. Although the paper only deals with subatomic particles my posit is that the quantum effects of Casimir geometry segregate vacuum density regions inside vs exterior surfaces such that this same effect scales up or down - dynamic changes in gravity breaking the isotropy and relativistic effects leading to decay rate anomalies without near C velocity. If the current radioactive decay rate anomalies are due to the geometry and you consider the exposed to geometry duty factor vs the entire volume of gas being measured then the relativistic effects are actually much higher and being averaged down by circulation path and gas populating and pressurizing the less extreme geometry to facilitate the loading. I think LENR will lead to a new relativistic understanding of catalysis and Casimir effect. Getting back to a free energy self assembled Maxwellian demon this context would focus on the geometry segregating regions where vacuum wavelengths are either stretched or compressed from our perspective but negative or positive time dilation from a relativistic perspective at no energy cost! It is setting the stage for sorting gas atoms that are already harnessing zero point in the form of random motion.. no help sorting hot from cold but my posit remains that gas molecules formed in one time frame / fractional orbit oppose random motion to a different frame / fractional value which discounts the disassociation threshold. I like to visualize the covalent bonded orbitals of different fractional molecules as having their orbitals at different angles like butterfly wings where a normal gas molecule orbitals appear flat while an extreme 1/137 fractional molecule would be like the wings straight up parallel to each other and hence appearing smaller from our perspective above. The discount to disassociation threshold is only my pet theory but the relativistic hydrino paper from Naudts has been around since 05 and could be applied to recent threads about transmutation rates in these same regions... It all keeps pointing back to TIME. Fran -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Fran, An interesting perspective. Perhaps related to a paper in my stack (which I have yet only perused)? - Quantum Measurement Information as a key to Energy Release from Local Vacuums - Masahiro Hotta http://arxiv.org/abs/0803.2272 (His other papers at arxiv.org/find/quant-ph/1/au:+Hotta_M/0/1/0/all/0/1) Still a contentious topic, but, hopefully, vacuum energy can be extracted. -- Lou Pagnucco Roarty, Francis X wrote: Lou, I have ben positing this with respect to DCE, the change in casimir geometry and therefore the restriction of virtual particle sizes is just such a Maxwellian demon. Powered by change in geometry it creates boundaries that react asymmetrically to atoms vs molecules. It doesn't sort hot from cold but it sets the stage for discounting the disassociation level of molecules while ignoring atoms. If the area is heated such that the molecules approach disassociation this asymmetrical opposition to molecules will discount the threshold opening the door to over unity at the cost of geometry. I am convinced more heat can be released upon reassociation then the discounted value achieved by geometry and random motion of gas. You are essentially putting the random motion of gas in opposition to these geometrical boundaries. Fran -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: Some recent papers showing that Maxwell's demon may not require energy - Single-reservoir heat engine: Controlling the spin http://fqmt.fzu.cz/13/pdfabstracts/605_1f.pdf Beyond Landauer Erasure http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/11/4956 The latter is part of the journal 'Entropy' - Special Issue Maxwell's Demon 2013 http://www.mdpi.com/journal/entropy/special_issues/maxwells_demon2013 The following paper shows that computation needs no energy - if reversible. The Connection between Reversibility and Heat Generation http://people.ccmr.cornell.edu/~clh/p562/TPH/Bohn_TP.pdf Whether a spin (or other conserved quantity) reservoir can be created (or discovered) for less than the thermodynamic energy it returns in a novel engine is an intriguing question - and, also whether such engines can be scaled
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
I agree it points back to TIME, but if the decay rate changes within space around the vacuum, what is time really? I see it as an increase in entropy due to decay rate which appears variable due to vacuum condentration. ie. we are not getting older in time, we are decaying along with the space around us, Entropic gravity sees to it. Less gravity, less decay. The closer you get to the firewall surface of a black hole or vacuum, the faster you decay due to the intense EMF/radiation - it has to convert you to entropy first before it can suck you in. That is why I think if we leave Earth and can protect ourselves from decaying vacuum, we can live longer, ie. more obits The gravity we sense is really the quantum vacuum entanglement of entropy flowing to a black hole (6-D toridal vacuum brane at the center of the Earth). Our weather disturbances are created from local increases in vacuum (creating low pressure, ionization, condensing, precipitation) within our gaseous atmosphere which gradually decays space around it and it is also decaying. We are in a cosmic washing machine (very foamy- lots of bubbles, strings of all different energies) and space is constantly emerging and decaying around us. Life is boring otherwise :) I think we are saying the same thing. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Frank roarty fr...@roarty.biz wrote: Well, yes I agree see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on wormholes, entanglement and the effect on quarks as basis for a global gravitation theory and spooky action at a distance. Teleportation and instantaneous communication between Bob and Alice thru entanglement. Although the paper only deals with subatomic particles my posit is that the quantum effects of Casimir geometry segregate vacuum density regions inside vs exterior surfaces such that this same effect scales up or down - dynamic changes in gravity breaking the isotropy and relativistic effects leading to decay rate anomalies without near C velocity. If the current radioactive decay rate anomalies are due to the geometry and you consider the exposed to geometry duty factor vs the entire volume of gas being measured then the relativistic effects are actually much higher and being averaged down by circulation path and gas populating and pressurizing the less extreme geometry to facilitate the loading. I think LENR will lead to a new relativistic understanding of catalysis and Casimir effect. Getting back to a free energy self assembled Maxwellian demon this context would focus on the geometry segregating regions where vacuum wavelengths are either stretched or compressed from our perspective but negative or positive time dilation from a relativistic perspective at no energy cost! It is setting the stage for sorting gas atoms that are already harnessing zero point in the form of random motion.. no help sorting hot from cold but my posit remains that gas molecules formed in one time frame / fractional orbit oppose random motion to a different frame / fractional value which discounts the disassociation threshold. I like to visualize the covalent bonded orbitals of different fractional molecules as having their orbitals at different angles like butterfly wings where a normal gas molecule orbitals appear flat while an extreme 1/137 fractional molecule would be like the wings straight up parallel to each other and hence appearing smaller from our perspective above. The discount to disassociation threshold is only my pet theory but the relativistic hydrino paper from Naudts has been around since 05 and could be applied to recent threads about transmutation rates in these same regions... It all keeps pointing back to TIME. Fran -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 12:59 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Fran, An interesting perspective. Perhaps related to a paper in my stack (which I have yet only perused)? - Quantum Measurement Information as a key to Energy Release from Local Vacuums - Masahiro Hotta http://arxiv.org/abs/0803.2272 (His other papers at arxiv.org/find/quant-ph/1/au:+Hotta_M/0/1/0/all/0/1) Still a contentious topic, but, hopefully, vacuum energy can be extracted. -- Lou Pagnucco Roarty, Francis X wrote: Lou, I have ben positing this with respect to DCE, the change in casimir geometry and therefore the restriction of virtual particle sizes is just such a Maxwellian demon. Powered by change in geometry it creates boundaries that react asymmetrically to atoms vs molecules. It doesn't sort hot from cold but it sets the stage for discounting the disassociation level of molecules while ignoring atoms. If the area is heated such that the molecules approach disassociation this asymmetrical opposition to molecules will discount the threshold opening the door to over
RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
ChemE, you said [snip] Less gravity, less decay. The closer you get to the firewall surface of a black hole or vacuum, the faster you decay due to the intense EMF/radiation [/snip]. You got this backwards. The paradox twin approaching the speed of light or equivalently deep in a gravity well slows down in time from our perspective. We grow old and it is our grand children who then welcome back the still young twin back to earth upon his return. Just like the Paradox twin a radioactive gas on board the same spaceship would remains blissfully unaware of time dilation and would have an extended half life from our earth bound perspective of measurements made before and after the trip which is perfectly acceptable under SR and has been reported to a lesser extent along with anomalous cold by researchers in the past. The more familiar claims of anomalous radioactive decay have been for reduced half life and anomalous heat. I predict these anomalous decay rates will be found much more frequently now that we know to look for them and will become a powerful tool in unlocking the secret behind LENR and proper understanding of Casimir effect and catalysis. The accelerated decay rate you mention does apply to radioactive gas migrating thru regions of Casimir geometry because restricting virtual particles in a cavity results in a negative pressure relative to us in the macro world outside the cavity, and that difference can be just as extreme as the relationship we accept in SR for the paradox twin without the need for near light speed velocity or equivalent gravity wells. In this case we outside the cavity become the Twin that remains young and slow down in time from the perspective of a tiny observer in the cavity, Not that it is all time dilation, CHANGE in geometry is actually the dominant factor in catalytic action, If the cavity were constant geometry like mirrors manufactured to produce Casimir plates for lab experiments there would only be catalytic action around the plate perimeters like the measurements by Chen at Purdue where catalytic action was only found to occur at the openings and defect regions of a nanotube. It is this dynamic feature that becomes multiplied in the tapestry of a skeletal catalyst or nano powders where the constant change in geometry changes the dilation rate and compounds the reaction rate from our perspective. I think gas ages more rapidly in a catalyst and it is only recently that these half life anomalies are starting to be investigated. Fran From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons I agree it points back to TIME, but if the decay rate changes within space around the vacuum, what is time really? I see it as an increase in entropy due to decay rate which appears variable due to vacuum condentration. ie. we are not getting older in time, we are decaying along with the space around us, Entropic gravity sees to it. Less gravity, less decay. The closer you get to the firewall surface of a black hole or vacuum, the faster you decay due to the intense EMF/radiation - it has to convert you to entropy first before it can suck you in. That is why I think if we leave Earth and can protect ourselves from decaying vacuum, we can live longer, ie. more obits The gravity we sense is really the quantum vacuum entanglement of entropy flowing to a black hole (6-D toridal vacuum brane at the center of the Earth). Our weather disturbances are created from local increases in vacuum (creating low pressure, ionization, condensing, precipitation) within our gaseous atmosphere which gradually decays space around it and it is also decaying. We are in a cosmic washing machine (very foamy- lots of bubbles, strings of all different energies) and space is constantly emerging and decaying around us. Life is boring otherwise :) I think we are saying the same thing. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Frank roarty fr...@roarty.biz wrote: Well, yes I agree see http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on wormholes, entanglement and the effect on quarks as basis for a global gravitation theory and spooky action at a distance. Teleportation and instantaneous communication between Bob and Alice thru entanglement. Although the paper only deals with subatomic particles my posit is that the quantum effects of Casimir geometry segregate vacuum density regions inside vs exterior surfaces such that this same effect scales up or down - dynamic changes in gravity breaking the isotropy and relativistic effects leading to decay rate anomalies without near C velocity. If the current radioactive decay rate anomalies are due to the geometry and you consider the exposed to geometry duty factor vs the entire volume of gas being measured then the relativistic effects are actually much higher and being averaged down by circulation path and gas
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
I am not convinced time even exists, you will have to find one of those
younger twins to convince me. I think time is something wives made up to
let husbands know they are late. Catalysis is a sign of increased
ionization energy to make a reaction go forward, which makes sense it would
show up in the nooks and crannies where space is shredded closer to the
vacuum firewall due to emf
I am with you on the space warping stuff.
On Sunday, December 8, 2013, Frank roarty wrote:
ChemE, you said [snip] Less gravity, less decay. The closer you get to
the firewall surface of a black hole or vacuum, the faster you decay due
to the intense EMF/radiation [/snip]. You got this backwards. The paradox
twin approaching the speed of light or equivalently deep in a gravity well
slows down in time from our perspective. We grow old and it is our grand
children who then welcome back the still young twin back to earth upon his
return. Just like the Paradox twin a radioactive gas on board the same
spaceship would remains blissfully unaware of time dilation and would have
an “extended” half life from our earth bound perspective of measurements
made before and after the trip which is perfectly acceptable under SR and
has been reported to a lesser extent along with anomalous “cold” by
researchers in the past. The more familiar claims of anomalous radioactive
decay have been for “reduced” half life and anomalous heat. I predict these
anomalous decay rates will be found much more frequently now that we know
to look for them and will become a powerful tool in unlocking the secret
behind LENR and proper understanding of Casimir effect and catalysis. The
accelerated decay rate you mention does apply to radioactive gas migrating
thru regions of Casimir geometry because restricting virtual particles in a
cavity results in a negative pressure relative to us in the macro world
outside the cavity, and that difference can be just as extreme as the
relationship we accept in SR for the paradox twin without the need for near
light speed velocity or equivalent gravity wells. In this case we outside
the cavity become the Twin that remains young and slow down in time from
the perspective of a tiny observer in the cavity, Not that it is all time
dilation, CHANGE in geometry is actually the dominant factor in catalytic
action, If the cavity were constant geometry like mirrors manufactured to
produce Casimir plates for lab experiments there would only be catalytic
action around the plate perimeters like the measurements by Chen at Purdue
where catalytic action was only found to occur at the openings and defect
regions of a nanotube. It is this dynamic feature that becomes multiplied
in the tapestry of a skeletal catalyst or nano powders where the constant
change in geometry changes the dilation rate and compounds the reaction
rate from our perspective. I think gas ages more rapidly in a catalyst and
it is only recently that these half life anomalies are starting to be
investigated.
Fran
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I agree it points back to TIME, but if the decay rate changes within
space around the vacuum, what is time really? I see it as an increase in
entropy due to decay rate which appears variable due to vacuum
condentration. ie. we are not getting older in time, we are decaying
along with the space around us, Entropic gravity sees to it. Less gravity,
less decay. The closer you get to the firewall surface of a black hole or
vacuum, the faster you decay due to the intense EMF/radiation - it has to
convert you to entropy first before it can suck you in. That is why I
think if we leave Earth and can protect ourselves from decaying vacuum, we
can live longer, ie. more obits
The gravity we sense is really the quantum vacuum entanglement of entropy
flowing to a black hole (6-D toridal vacuum brane at the center of the
Earth). Our weather disturbances are created from local increases in
vacuum (creating low pressure, ionization, condensing, precipitation)
within our gaseous atmosphere which gradually decays space around it and it
is also decaying.
We are in a cosmic washing machine (very foamy- lots of bubbles, strings
of all different energies) and space is constantly emerging and decaying
around us. Life is boring otherwise :)
I think we are saying the same thing.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Frank roarty fr...@roarty.biz wrote:
Well, yes I agree see
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131205142218.htm on
wormholes,
entanglement and the effect on quarks as basis for a global gravitation
theory and spooky action at a distance. Teleportation and instantaneous
communication between Bob and Alice
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum and that cosmic string I think was photographed from ISON on Thanksgiving day is vacuum then DUDES, WE ARE THE 5% IMMERSED IN THE 95% QUANTUM VACUUM FOAM made up of vacuum branes and strings all around us. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:00 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I am not convinced time even exists, you will have to find one of those younger twins to convince me. I think time is something wives made up to let husbands know they are late. Catalysis is a sign of increased ionization energy to make a reaction go forward, which makes sense it would show up in the nooks and crannies where space is shredded closer to the vacuum firewall due to emf I am with you on the space warping stuff. On Sunday, December 8, 2013, Frank roarty wrote: ChemE, you said [snip] Less gravity, less decay. The closer you get to the firewall surface of a black hole or vacuum, the faster you decay due to the intense EMF/radiation [/snip]. You got this backwards. The paradox twin approaching the speed of light or equivalently deep in a gravity well slows down in time from our perspective. We grow old and it is our grand children who then welcome back the still young twin back to earth upon his return. Just like the Paradox twin a radioactive gas on board the same spaceship would remains blissfully unaware of time dilation and would have an “extended” half life from our earth bound perspective of measurements made before and after the trip which is perfectly acceptable under SR and has been reported to a lesser extent along with anomalous “cold” by researchers in the past. The more familiar claims of anomalous radioactive decay have been for “reduced” half life and anomalous heat. I predict these anomalous decay rates will be found much more frequently now that we know to look for them and will become a powerful tool in unlocking the secret behind LENR and proper understanding of Casimir effect and catalysis. The accelerated decay rate you mention does apply to radioactive gas migrating thru regions of Casimir geometry because restricting virtual particles in a cavity results in a negative pressure relative to us in the macro world outside the cavity, and that difference can be just as extreme as the relationship we accept in SR for the paradox twin without the need for near light speed velocity or equivalent gravity wells. In this case we outside the cavity become the Twin that remains young and slow down in time from the perspective of a tiny observer in the cavity, Not that it is all time dilation, CHANGE in geometry is actually the dominant factor in catalytic action, If the cavity were constant geometry like mirrors manufactured to produce Casimir plates for lab experiments there would only be catalytic action around the plate perimeters like the measurements by Chen at Purdue where catalytic action was only found to occur at the openings and defect regions of a nanotube. It is this dynamic feature that becomes multiplied in the tapestry of a skeletal catalyst or nano powders where the constant change in geometry changes the dilation rate and compounds the reaction rate from our perspective. I think gas ages more rapidly in a catalyst and it is only recently that these half life anomalies are starting to be investigated. Fran *From:* ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:50 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons I agree it points back to TIME, but if the decay rate changes within space around the vacuum, what
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/04/mystery-of-neutron-lifetime-discrepancy-deepens (Oscillating) non-exponential decays of unstable states http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1896 Radioactive Decay Anomaly Finally Explained (Maybe) - A long-standing puzzle over periodic oscillations in the decay of some elements may have finally been solved, say physicists http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425731/radioactive-decay-anomaly-finally-explained-maybe/ And, I'm still not convinced that the explanations offered so far really account for the fact that chiral molecules, like ammonia, insist on staying in either their right-handed (|R) or left-handed (|L) states rather than decaying to their lowest energy symmetric state (superposition |R+|L, normalized, of course.) Somehow, the universe finds the superposition a bit abhorrent. -- Lou Pagnucco ChemE wrote: Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum and that cosmic string I think was photographed from ISON on Thanksgiving day is vacuum then DUDES, WE ARE THE 5% IMMERSED IN THE 95% QUANTUM VACUUM FOAM made up of vacuum branes and strings all around us. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com [...]
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
It has been shown that information can be converted into energy: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428670/entangled-particles-break-classical-law-of-thermodynamics-say-physicists/ *Entangled Particles Break Classical Law of Thermodynamics, Say Physicists* The Ni/H reactor may be a system where entanglement is converted into energy. Here is are reasons why entanglement can be converted into energy. The preferred state of the plasmons exciton is entanglement. When plasmons are formed under the proper topological conditions, the plasmons entangle with extreme vigor. If plasmon entanglement is formed faster than an energy extracting de-coherence process can destroy it, might it not be possible that the Ni/H reactor can extract energy out of the Higgs field (aka vacuum energy) for free? On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/04/mystery-of-neutron-lifetime-discrepancy-deepens (Oscillating) non-exponential decays of unstable states http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1896 Radioactive Decay Anomaly Finally Explained (Maybe) - A long-standing puzzle over periodic oscillations in the decay of some elements may have finally been solved, say physicists http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425731/radioactive-decay-anomaly-finally-explained-maybe/ And, I'm still not convinced that the explanations offered so far really account for the fact that chiral molecules, like ammonia, insist on staying in either their right-handed (|R) or left-handed (|L) states rather than decaying to their lowest energy symmetric state (superposition |R+|L, normalized, of course.) Somehow, the universe finds the superposition a bit abhorrent. -- Lou Pagnucco ChemE wrote: Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum and that cosmic string I think was photographed from ISON on Thanksgiving day is vacuum then DUDES, WE ARE THE 5% IMMERSED IN THE 95% QUANTUM VACUUM FOAM made up of vacuum branes and strings all around us. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com [...]
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons
Lot's of decohering/oscillating/collapsing wave functions best I can figure I like to stick to looking for the big stuff... On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/04/mystery-of-neutron-lifetime-discrepancy-deepens (Oscillating) non-exponential decays of unstable states http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1896 Radioactive Decay Anomaly Finally Explained (Maybe) - A long-standing puzzle over periodic oscillations in the decay of some elements may have finally been solved, say physicists http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425731/radioactive-decay-anomaly-finally-explained-maybe/ And, I'm still not convinced that the explanations offered so far really account for the fact that chiral molecules, like ammonia, insist on staying in either their right-handed (|R) or left-handed (|L) states rather than decaying to their lowest energy symmetric state (superposition |R+|L, normalized, of course.) Somehow, the universe finds the superposition a bit abhorrent. -- Lou Pagnucco ChemE wrote: Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum and that cosmic string I think was photographed from ISON on Thanksgiving day is vacuum then DUDES, WE ARE THE 5% IMMERSED IN THE 95% QUANTUM VACUUM FOAM made up of vacuum branes and strings all around us. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com [...]
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More... There is every indication that the Ni/H reactor remains entangled when in the process of energy production. These indications include gamma ray thermalization using entangled superatoms and super-fluidic heat transfer. Is it true to say that an entangled thermodynamic system will extract energy from the vacuum? On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: It has been shown that information can be converted into energy: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428670/entangled-particles-break-classical-law-of-thermodynamics-say-physicists/ *Entangled Particles Break Classical Law of Thermodynamics, Say Physicists* The Ni/H reactor may be a system where entanglement is converted into energy. Here is are reasons why entanglement can be converted into energy. The preferred state of the plasmons exciton is entanglement. When plasmons are formed under the proper topological conditions, the plasmons entangle with extreme vigor. If plasmon entanglement is formed faster than an energy extracting de-coherence process can destroy it, might it not be possible that the Ni/H reactor can extract energy out of the Higgs field (aka vacuum energy) for free? On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/04/mystery-of-neutron-lifetime-discrepancy-deepens (Oscillating) non-exponential decays of unstable states http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1896 Radioactive Decay Anomaly Finally Explained (Maybe) - A long-standing puzzle over periodic oscillations in the decay of some elements may have finally been solved, say physicists http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425731/radioactive-decay-anomaly-finally-explained-maybe/ And, I'm still not convinced that the explanations offered so far really account for the fact that chiral molecules, like ammonia, insist on staying in either their right-handed (|R) or left-handed (|L) states rather than decaying to their lowest energy symmetric state (superposition |R+|L, normalized, of course.) Somehow, the universe finds the superposition a bit abhorrent. -- Lou Pagnucco ChemE wrote: Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum and that cosmic string I think was photographed from ISON on Thanksgiving day is vacuum then DUDES, WE ARE THE 5% IMMERSED IN THE 95% QUANTUM VACUUM FOAM made up of vacuum branes and strings all around us. Stewart Darkmattersalot.com [...]
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Axil, This is a perplexing issue. The environment seems to hate many entangled states, and tries to destroy them, even when they are in a deeper energy well than the disentangled states they generate. Maybe sometimes the energy to disentangle them does come from vacuum energy. I wish I knew for sure. -- LP Axil wrote: More... There is every indication that the Ni/H reactor remains entangled when in the process of energy production. These indications include gamma ray thermalization using entangled superatoms and super-fluidic heat transfer. Is it true to say that an entangled thermodynamic system will extract energy from the vacuum? [...]
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Since all mass comes from the Higgs field; and E=MC2, then all energy comes from the Higgs field or the vacuum. On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Axil, This is a perplexing issue. The environment seems to hate many entangled states, and tries to destroy them, even when they are in a deeper energy well than the disentangled states they generate. Maybe sometimes the energy to disentangle them does come from vacuum energy. I wish I knew for sure. -- LP Axil wrote: More... There is every indication that the Ni/H reactor remains entangled when in the process of energy production. These indications include gamma ray thermalization using entangled superatoms and super-fluidic heat transfer. Is it true to say that an entangled thermodynamic system will extract energy from the vacuum? [...]
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Yes Axil, that is based on the same underlying concept. The relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect says the larger virtual particles are not excluded from the cavity but rather space time translates locally such that they get more space at the cost of less time. These dilated virtual particles form the fabric of space time in the cavity and any hydrogen gas to migrate through the region become fractional or Rydberg. I am currently considering an idea that would benefit from your advice since we have conflicted on this subject previously and this is my premise.. What if the inverse Rydberg atom is not really inverse at all.. Naudts' paper on relativistic hydrogen has always intrigued me as to the possibility of the orbital being displaced on the time axis appearing smaller from our perspective but locally unchanged, The change in my thinking is regarding the energy level and why would a relativistic orbital, [and I use the term relativistic loosely with respect to an orbital existing in a region of dilated virtual particles not the velocity of the orbital], drop to a lower energy level to reach these 137 different fractional states. The concept I am suggesting is that these so called fractional states from our perspective could enjoy all the normal space of their Rydberg equivalent from their own local perspective through dilation. Could the hydrino series be Lorentz transformed Rydbergs? Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:52 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons It has been shown that information can be converted into energy: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428670/entangled-particles-break-classi cal-law-of-thermodynamics-say-physicists/ Entangled Particles Break Classical Law of Thermodynamics, Say Physicists The Ni/H reactor may be a system where entanglement is converted into energy. Here is are reasons why entanglement can be converted into energy. The preferred state of the plasmons exciton is entanglement. When plasmons are formed under the proper topological conditions, the plasmons entangle with extreme vigor. If plasmon entanglement is formed faster than an energy extracting de-coherence process can destroy it, might it not be possible that the Ni/H reactor can extract energy out of the Higgs field (aka vacuum energy) for free? On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Fran and ChemE, I wish I could add some explanations, but all I can add are more examples of (real or apparent?) anomalies and paradoxes seemingly related to physical interactions and boundary effects. Perhaps of interest: Mystery of neutron-lifetime discrepancy deepens http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/dec/04/mystery-of-neutron-life time-discrepancy-deepens (Oscillating) non-exponential decays of unstable states http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.1896 Radioactive Decay Anomaly Finally Explained (Maybe) - A long-standing puzzle over periodic oscillations in the decay of some elements may have finally been solved, say physicists http://www.technologyreview.com/view/425731/radioactive-decay-anomaly-finall y-explained-maybe/ And, I'm still not convinced that the explanations offered so far really account for the fact that chiral molecules, like ammonia, insist on staying in either their right-handed (|R) or left-handed (|L) states rather than decaying to their lowest energy symmetric state (superposition |R+|L, normalized, of course.) Somehow, the universe finds the superposition a bit abhorrent. -- Lou Pagnucco ChemE wrote: Fran, What I am really trying to say is that if you hang around close to the surface/horizon of vacuum/black hole/zpe/dark matter (whatever you want to call it) expect more radiation/decay, which ionizes you at a faster rate - like catalysis that speeds up reactions that you are describing and I agree with. If you can protect yourself from the radiation/flux then yes, you will age slower (the surface/shields of your ship will have to protect you...) But I think that is the same on Earth. If we can protect ourselves from ionizing radiation around us, we will all age slower. Problem is, our gravitational flux (of entropy to the Earth's center) and due to weather(vacuum) disturbances they are aging all of us at a similar rate over 80 or so obits...and we decay. Human's half life is around 24 years or so (actually probably less but our bodies replace damaged cells all of the time or we would all be dead quicker). Best way I can explain it. Trying to separate all of the fusion/fission reactions occurring near the surface of the quantum vacuum foam is like separating gnat shit from pepper...:) But it is important and I agree with the overall direction of the discussion. If the core of the Earth, Sun, Gas Giant Planets, ETC. are curled up vacuum orbifolds with decaying firewalls and our weather disturbances are vacuum
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Lou, I have ben positing this with respect to DCE, the change in casimir geometry and therefore the restriction of virtual particle sizes is just such a Maxwellian demon. Powered by change in geometry it creates boundaries that react asymmetrically to atoms vs molecules. It doesn't sort hot from cold but it sets the stage for discounting the disassociation level of molecules while ignoring atoms. If the area is heated such that the molecules approach disassociation this asymmetrical opposition to molecules will discount the threshold opening the door to over unity at the cost of geometry. I am convinced more heat can be released upon reassociation then the discounted value achieved by geometry and random motion of gas. You are essentially putting the random motion of gas in opposition to these geometrical boundaries. Fran -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: Some recent papers showing that Maxwell's demon may not require energy - Single-reservoir heat engine: Controlling the spin http://fqmt.fzu.cz/13/pdfabstracts/605_1f.pdf Beyond Landauer Erasure http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/11/4956 The latter is part of the journal 'Entropy' - Special Issue Maxwell's Demon 2013 http://www.mdpi.com/journal/entropy/special_issues/maxwells_demon2013 The following paper shows that computation needs no energy - if reversible. The Connection between Reversibility and Heat Generation http://people.ccmr.cornell.edu/~clh/p562/TPH/Bohn_TP.pdf Whether a spin (or other conserved quantity) reservoir can be created (or discovered) for less than the thermodynamic energy it returns in a novel engine is an intriguing question - and, also whether such engines can be scaled to macroscopic size. -- Lou Pagnucco
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Fran, An interesting perspective. Perhaps related to a paper in my stack (which I have yet only perused)? - Quantum Measurement Information as a key to Energy Release from Local Vacuums - Masahiro Hotta http://arxiv.org/abs/0803.2272 (His other papers at arxiv.org/find/quant-ph/1/au:+Hotta_M/0/1/0/all/0/1) Still a contentious topic, but, hopefully, vacuum energy can be extracted. -- Lou Pagnucco Roarty, Francis X wrote: Lou, I have ben positing this with respect to DCE, the change in casimir geometry and therefore the restriction of virtual particle sizes is just such a Maxwellian demon. Powered by change in geometry it creates boundaries that react asymmetrically to atoms vs molecules. It doesn't sort hot from cold but it sets the stage for discounting the disassociation level of molecules while ignoring atoms. If the area is heated such that the molecules approach disassociation this asymmetrical opposition to molecules will discount the threshold opening the door to over unity at the cost of geometry. I am convinced more heat can be released upon reassociation then the discounted value achieved by geometry and random motion of gas. You are essentially putting the random motion of gas in opposition to these geometrical boundaries. Fran -Original Message- From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com [mailto:pagnu...@htdconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 11:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:More versatile Maxwell's demons Those interested in thermodynamics may find the following worthwhile: Some recent papers showing that Maxwell's demon may not require energy - Single-reservoir heat engine: Controlling the spin http://fqmt.fzu.cz/13/pdfabstracts/605_1f.pdf Beyond Landauer Erasure http://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/15/11/4956 The latter is part of the journal 'Entropy' - Special Issue Maxwell's Demon 2013 http://www.mdpi.com/journal/entropy/special_issues/maxwells_demon2013 The following paper shows that computation needs no energy - if reversible. The Connection between Reversibility and Heat Generation http://people.ccmr.cornell.edu/~clh/p562/TPH/Bohn_TP.pdf Whether a spin (or other conserved quantity) reservoir can be created (or discovered) for less than the thermodynamic energy it returns in a novel engine is an intriguing question - and, also whether such engines can be scaled to macroscopic size. -- Lou Pagnucco
