[Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Hi,
after i played 3
days withwicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short,
ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i
have with the mount i applied to the navomatic demo
application.
Wicket
Pro:
+ good idea and
model
+ intuitive and easy
to understand
+ few code needed
+
OO
Cons:
-
documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you
things thatdont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the
non-deprecated alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage
looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library
under Related Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and
didnt think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken
completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the
navomatic border example found on http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is
de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package de.navo.test
helds the page4).
I then created the
init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as
i like putting things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use
-
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mount("/main",
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy,
as it works as intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages
in main package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly
untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set
each page individually,
try 2 was
this:
public void init()
{getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page1", Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page2", Page2.class);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page3", Page3.class);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page4", Page4.class);}
there
the first 3 pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links become
untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards,
Korbinian
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Settings object is dividedThe StripWicketTags is a part of the IMarkupSettings settings interface.PackageMounting is really the package not subpackages (as far as i know)What that second attempt failed i have to check out for myself first what exactly goes wrong.
johanOn 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3
days withwicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short,
ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i
have with the mount i applied to the navomatic demo
application.
Wicket
Pro:
+ good idea and
model
+ intuitive and easy
to understand
+ few code needed
+
OO
Cons:
-
documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you
things thatdont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the
non-deprecated alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage
looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library
under Related Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and
didnt think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken
completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the
navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is
de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package de.navo.test
helds the page4).
I then created the
init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as
i like putting things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use
-
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main,
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy,
as it works as intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages
in main package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly
untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set
each page individually,
try 2 was
this:
public void init()
{getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page3, Page3.class);mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4
, Page4.class);}
there
the first 3 pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links become
untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards,
Korbinian
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there Page4.class and Page4.htmlThen i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and changed this: wicket:link a href = ""
Page1.htmlPage1/abr/ a href = ""> a href = ""
a href = ""> /wicket:linkPage1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in page4 so Wicket:Link (auto link)
tries to suddenly resolve the same hrefs to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that will fail.So that won't work with auto links..johanOn 8/7/06,
Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3
days withwicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short,
ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i
have with the mount i applied to the navomatic demo
application.
Wicket
Pro:
+ good idea and
model
+ intuitive and easy
to understand
+ few code needed
+
OO
Cons:
-
documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you
things thatdont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the
non-deprecated alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage
looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library
under Related Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and
didnt think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken
completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the
navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is
de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package de.navo.test
helds the page4).
I then created the
init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as
i like putting things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use
-
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main,
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy,
as it works as intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages
in main package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly
untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set
each page individually,
try 2 was
this:
public void init()
{getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page3, Page3.class);mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4
, Page4.class);}
there
the first 3 pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links become
untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards,
Korbinian
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a /convinience/
feature that is meant to help you with simple situations. this usecase
is really an abuse of autolinking. dont expect it to do everything for
you, use regular links or page links instead.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there Page4.class and
Page4.html
Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and changed this:
wicket:link
a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/
a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/
a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a
a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a
/wicket:link
Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in page4 so
Wicket:Link (auto link)
tries to suddenly resolve the same hrefs to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are
not relative to Page4 so that will fail.
So that won't work with auto links..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i
describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the navomatic demo
application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a minute for any
additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default
is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and
it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical way and
ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i checked the pages -
while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage
has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4
instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are
completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i
thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage( /Page2, Page2.class);
mountBookmarkablePage( /Page3, Page3.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 , Page4.class);
}
there the first 3 pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links
become untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards,
Korbinian
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Hi Johan,
if you want i can mail you the complete eclipse-project, so
you dont have to do it yourself.
That
the Settings object is divided is sth. i found out- but its quite hard (and
unlogic for me) that the settings are scattered over various interfaces...
however, the
IMarkupSettings settings
hasnt
got a setStripWicketTags method...is there any overview of all (!) settings
possibilites and their execution ?
To the
PackageMount - does this mean i have to define a mount for every
subpackage?
Thanks
for help,
Best
Regards,
Korbinian
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Johan
CompagnerGesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:43An:
wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day
beginners overview / broken mounts
Settings object is dividedThe StripWicketTags is a part of
the IMarkupSettings settings interface.PackageMounting is really the
package not subpackages (as far as i know)What that second attempt
failed i have to check out for myself first what exactly goes wrong.
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian
Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days withwicket,
its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short, ill just write the
pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i have with the
mount i applied to the navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to
understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the
word...
(wiki tells you things thatdont
work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the non-deprecated
alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to
find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related
Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt
think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you
use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the navomatic border example
found on http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default
is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw
this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as i like putting
things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use -
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mount("/main",
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy, as it works as
intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages in main
package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4 and if youre
on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly untouched
(the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set each
page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init()
{getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page1",
Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
"/Page2", Page2.class);mountBookmarkablePage( "/Page3",
Page3.class);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page4" ,
Page4.class);}
there the first 3
pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links become untouched
again and present the dummy text
Best
Regards,
Korbinian-Using
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Hi,IMarkupSettings: /** * Sets whether to remove wicket tags from the output. * * @param stripWicketTags * whether to remove wicket tags from the output */
void setStripWicketTags(boolean stripWicketTags);Yes you need to mound package by package. How would we else handle collisions?You can have a PageX in both packages. Or then suddenly add a piece of that dir that is left also to the url?
Packages in java are standalone things. There is not really such a thing as subpackages Thats only how we view them if we view them as a directory structure..johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Johan,
if you want i can mail you the complete eclipse-project, so
you dont have to do it yourself.
That
the Settings object is divided is sth. i found out- but its quite hard (and
unlogic for me) that the settings are scattered over various interfaces...
however, the
IMarkupSettings settings
hasnt
got a setStripWicketTags method...is there any overview of all (!) settings
possibilites and their execution ?
To the
PackageMount - does this mean i have to define a mount for every
subpackage?
Thanks
for help,
Best
Regards,
Korbinian
Von:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
] Im Auftrag von Johan
CompagnerGesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:43An:
wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff:
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day
beginners overview / broken mounts
Settings object is dividedThe StripWicketTags is a part of
the IMarkupSettings settings interface.PackageMounting is really the
package not subpackages (as far as i know)What that second attempt
failed i have to check out for myself first what exactly goes wrong.
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian
Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days withwicket,
its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short, ill just write the
pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i have with the
mount i applied to the navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to
understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the
word...
(wiki tells you things thatdont
work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the non-deprecated
alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to
find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related
Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt
think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you
use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the navomatic border example
found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default
is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw
this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as i like putting
things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use -
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main,
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy, as it works as
intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages in main
package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the
http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4 and if youre
on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly untouched
(the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set each
page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init()
{getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1,
Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class);mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page3,
Page3.class);mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 ,
Page4.class);}
there the first 3
pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links become untouched
again and present the dummy text
Best
Regards,
Korbinian-Using
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got a lot of
complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does so much, i just
expectet it will do this, too :P
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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von Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a
/convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple
situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking.
dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular links or
page links instead.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there
Page4.class
and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and
changed this:
wicket:link
a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/
a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/
a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a
a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a
/wicket:link
Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in
page4 so
Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the same hrefs to
urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that
will fail.
So that won't work with auto links..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a
small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my
opinion. Later
on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc - has
anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a
minute for
any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and enhanced it
with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is
de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on
javalobby and
it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical way
and ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i
checked the
pages -
while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the
subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page
4 instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are
completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt
replaced) -
so i thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class); mountBookmarkablePage( /Page3,
Page3.class); mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 , Page4.class); }
there the first 3 pages work as intended, however on
page4 all the
links
become untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards,
Korbinian
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Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
if you look in wicket.settings package you will see all the setting
interfaces. wicket has /a lot/ of options you can configure and having
them in a single object is overwhelming. just look at Settings in the
same package - this is the aggregate all interfaces point to - its
insane. the idea was to compartmentalize settings into units that will
make it easier for users to find - so if you want to change something
related to markup such as stripping wicket tags you just do
getMarkupSettings(). and your ide will show you all settings related
to markup.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
IMarkupSettings:
/**
* Sets whether to remove wicket tags from the output.
*
* @param stripWicketTags
*whether to remove wicket tags from the output
*/
void setStripWicketTags(boolean stripWicketTags);
Yes you need to mound package by package. How would we else handle
collisions?
You can have a PageX in both packages. Or then suddenly add a piece of that
dir that is left also to the url?
Packages in java are standalone things. There is not really such a thing as
subpackages
Thats only how we view them if we view them as a directory structure..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Johan,
if you want i can mail you the complete eclipse-project, so you dont have
to do it yourself.
That the Settings object is divided is sth. i found out- but its quite
hard (and unlogic for me) that the settings are scattered over various
interfaces... however, the
IMarkupSettings settings
hasnt got a setStripWicketTags method...
is there any overview of all (!) settings possibilites and their execution
?
To the PackageMount - does this mean i have to define a mount for every
subpackage?
Thanks for help,
Best Regards,
Korbinian
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Im
Auftrag von Johan Compagner
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:43
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Settings object is divided
The StripWicketTags is a part of the IMarkupSettings settings interface.
PackageMounting is really the package not subpackages (as far as i know)
What that second attempt failed i have to check out for myself first what
exactly goes wrong.
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a small
conlcsion. To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion.
Later on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a minute for any
additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default
is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby
and it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical way and
ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i checked the pages
- while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage
has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4
instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are
completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i
thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage( /Page2, Page2.class);
mountBookmarkablePage( /Page3, Page3.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 , Page4.class);
}
there the first 3 pages work as intended, however on page4 all the links
become untouched
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Ah, sorry, had implemented a wrong interface
The collision is logic, but could be resolved as the
highest level gets the primary attention... but ok, writing some lines
mount-code is not a big problem.
Thanks for your help!
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Johan
CompagnerGesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:07An:
wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day
beginners overview / broken mounts
Hi,IMarkupSettings:
/** * Sets whether to remove wicket tags from the
output. * * @param
stripWicketTags
*
whether to remove wicket tags from the output */
void setStripWicketTags(boolean
stripWicketTags);Yes you need to mound package by package. How
would we else handle collisions?You can have a PageX in both packages. Or
then suddenly add a piece of that dir that is left also to the url?
Packages in java are standalone things. There is not really such a
thing as subpackages Thats only how we view them if we view them as a
directory structure..johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian
Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi
Johan,
if you
want i can mail you the complete eclipse-project, so you dont have to do it
yourself.
That the Settings object is
divided is sth. i found out- but its quite hard (and unlogic for me) that
the settings are scattered over various interfaces... however, the
IMarkupSettings settings
hasnt got a
setStripWicketTags method...is there any overview of all (!) settings
possibilites and their execution ?
To the PackageMount - does
this mean i have to define a mount for every subpackage?
Thanks for
help,
Best
Regards,
Korbinian
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Im
Auftrag von Johan CompagnerGesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006
19:43An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.netBetreff: Re:
[Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken
mounts
Settings object is dividedThe StripWicketTags is a part
of the IMarkupSettings settings interface.PackageMounting is really
the package not subpackages (as far as i know)What that second
attempt failed i have to check out for myself first what exactly goes wrong.
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian
Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days withwicket,
its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short, ill just write
the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i have with
the mount i applied to the navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and
model
+ intuitive and easy to
understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the
word...
(wiki tells you things thatdont
work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the non-deprecated
alternativeto getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to
find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related
Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt
think a minute for any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you
use more than 1 package
Mount problem
description:
i programmed the navomatic border
example found on http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.htmland
enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my
default is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw
this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as i like putting
things in a hirarchical way and ordered by their use -
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mount("/main",
PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));}
First i was happy, as it works as
intended, but then i checked the pages - while the first 3 pages in main
package are ok, the 4th in the subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page4instead
of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4 and if youre
on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are completly untouched
(the code wicket should replace isnt replaced) - so i thought to set each
page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void
init() {getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);mountBookmarkablePage("/Page1",
Page1.class);mountBookmarkablePage( "/P
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Perhaps disabling it by default and creating a doc-page that explains its
limits and usage would do the trick
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
von Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:08
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got
a lot of complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does so much, i
just expectet it will do this, too :P
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview /
broken mounts
and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a
/convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple
situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking.
dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular
links or page
links instead.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there
Page4.class
and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and
changed this:
wicket:link
a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/
a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/
a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a
a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a
/wicket:link
Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in
page4 so
Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the
same hrefs
to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that
will fail.
So that won't work with auto links..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a
small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my
opinion. Later
on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand few code needed OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated
etc - has
anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to
getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth.
specific on it
is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets
instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a
minute for
any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and
enhanced
it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my
default is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3
are and the
package de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on
javalobby and
it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical
way and ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i
checked the
pages -
while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the
subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Pa
ge
4 instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself,
are completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt
replaced) -
so i thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class); mountBookmarkablePage( /Page3,
Page3.class); mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 , Page4.class); }
there the first 3 pages work as intended, however on
page4 all the
links
become untouched again and present the dummy text
Best Regards
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Yeah. And I argued to have it not in there in the first place. But
many users and some team members felt really strong about this
feature, and probably still feel like that today. Convenience isn't
always the right thing.
Anyway, we have to live with this feature now, and we should support
it in the best way we can. Maybe the best way here is to document the
catches in a place that is easy to find.
Eelco
On 8/7/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got a lot of
complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does so much, i just
expectet it will do this, too :P
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
von Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a
/convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple
situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking.
dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular links or
page links instead.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there
Page4.class
and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and
changed this:
wicket:link
a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/
a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/
a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a
a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a
/wicket:link
Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in
page4 so
Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the same hrefs to
urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that
will fail.
So that won't work with auto links..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a
small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my
opinion. Later
on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand
+ few code needed
+ OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc - has
anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a
minute for
any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and enhanced it
with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is
de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package
de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on
javalobby and
it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical way
and ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i
checked the
pages -
while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the
subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Page
4 instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself, are
completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt
replaced) -
so i thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class); mountBookmarkablePage( /Page3,
Page3.class); mountBookmarkablePage(/Page4 , Page4.class); }
there the first 3 pages work as intended, however on
page4 all the
links
become untouched again and present the dummy text
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
are you willing to do that? :) we rely on users to create wiki
articles because we ourselves lack the time.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps disabling it by default and creating a doc-page that explains its
limits and usage would do the trick
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag
von Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:08
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got
a lot of complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does so much, i
just expectet it will do this, too :P
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview /
broken mounts
and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a
/convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple
situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking.
dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular
links or page
links instead.
-Igor
On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there
Page4.class
and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and
changed this:
wicket:link
a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/
a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/
a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a
a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a
/wicket:link
Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in
page4 so
Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the
same hrefs
to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that
will fail.
So that won't work with auto links..
johan
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a
small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my
opinion. Later
on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application.
Wicket Pro:
+ good idea and model
+ intuitive and easy to understand few code needed OO
Cons:
- documentation isn worth the word...
(wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated
etc - has
anyone a
clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to
getSettings() ??? )
- wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID
html)
- wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth.
specific on it
is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets
instead under
Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a
minute for
any additional projects)
- mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description:
i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and
enhanced
it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my
default is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3
are and the
package de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on
javalobby and
it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical
way and ordered by their use -
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mount(/main, PackageName.forClass(navomatic.class));
}
First i was happy, as it works as intended, but then i
checked the
pages -
while the first 3 pages in main package are ok, the 4th in the
subpackage has big problems - its link is
http://localhost:8080/Navo2?wicket:bookmarkablePage=:de.navo.test.Pa
ge
4 instead of the http://localhost:8080/Navo2/main/test/Page4
and if youre on page4, all links, includig to the page4 itself,
are completly untouched (the code wicket should replace isnt
replaced) -
so i thought to set each page individually,
try 2 was this:
public void init() {
getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
mountBookmarkablePage(/Page1, Page1.class);
mountBookmarkablePage(
/Page2, Page2.class
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
well, after playing around for only 3 days it might be a bit too early, but basicly i would do some work in that way - btw: you mentioned the wiki and sth, that had was a big problem is that the wiki never tells you what version is covered with the current page, so you should add a needed field there where the users have to enter the version of wicket they write this for Reagrds, Korbinian PS: if i use mount for e.g. /dummy can i then use another mount for /dummy/dummy2 or would this create big problems for wicket ? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:22 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts are you willing to do that? :) we rely on users to create wiki articles because we ourselves lack the time. -Igor On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps disabling it by default and creating a doc-page that explains its limits and usage would do the trick -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:08 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got a lot of complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it. -Igor On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does so much, i just expectet it will do this, too :P -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a /convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking. dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular links or page links instead. -Igor On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there Page4.class and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html and changed this: wicket:link a href = Page1.htmlPage1/abr/ a href = Page2.htmlPage2/abr/ a href = Page3.htmlPage3/a a href = test/Page4.htmlPage4/a /wicket:link Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on. That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in page4 so Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the same hrefs to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that will fail. So that won't work with auto links.. johan On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion. To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the navomatic demo application. Wicket Pro: + good idea and model + intuitive and easy to understand few code needed OO Cons: - documentation isn worth the word... (wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc - has anyone a clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? ) - wicket Markup output is on by default (pls care for VALID html) - wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a minute for any additional projects) - mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package Mount problem description: i programmed the navomatic border example found on http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my default is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package de.navo.test helds the page4). I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a hirarchical way
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
i think we can handle those nested mountsI believe that is igors code (sorting on length) :)johanOn 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:well, after playing around for only 3 days it might be a bit too early,
but basicly i would do some work in that way -btw: you mentioned the wiki and sth, that had was a big problem is that thewiki never tells you what version is covered with the current page, so youshould add a needed field there where the users have to enter the version of
wicket they write this forReagrds, KorbinianPS: if i use mount for e.g. /dummy can i then use another mount for/dummy/dummy2 or would this create big problems for wicket ?
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:22 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts are you willing to do that? :) we rely on users to create wiki articles because we ourselves lack the time.
-Igor On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps disabling it by default and creating a doc-page that explains
its limits and usage would do the trick-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 20:08
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
well, i have often argued to remove autolinking. we have got a lot of complaints/things people thought were bugs because of it. -Igor
On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:thats a problem with my wicketed-mind! as wicket does
so much, ijust expectet it will do this, too :P-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Igor Vaynberg
Gesendet: Montag, 7. August 2006 19:59 An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview /
broken mounts and we are back to autolinking. autolinking is really a /convinience/ feature that is meant to help you with simple
situations. this usecase is really an abuse of autolinking. dont expect it to do everything for you, use regular links or page links instead.
-Igor On 8/7/06, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: ahh ok tested it, i made a subpackage test and added there Page4.class and Page4.html Then i looked at NavomaticBorder.html
and changed this:wicket:link
a href = ""> Page1.htmlPage1/abr/ a href ="">
Page2.htmlPage2/abr/ a href = ""> a href =
""> test/Page4.htmlPage4/a /wicket:link Page1 works then and the Page4 link i can click on.
That shows me the Page4 but I reused the navomaticborder in page4 so Wicket:Link (auto link) tries to suddenly resolve the
same hrefs to urls. But Page1 and Page2 are not relative to Page4 so that will fail. So that won't work with auto links..
johan On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, after i played 3 days with wicket, its time to come to a small conlcsion.
To have it short, ill just write the pro and cons in my opinion. Later on i describe a problem i have with the mount i applied to the
navomatic demo application. Wicket Pro: + good idea and model + intuitive and easy to understand few code needed OO
Cons: - documentation isn worth the word... (wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated
etc - has anyone a clue what is the non-deprecated alternative to getSettings() ??? ) -wicket Markup output is on by default (pls
care for VALID html) - wicket-webage looks nice, but try to find sth. specific on it is
horrific (e.g. Wicket Library under Related Projets instead under Documentation... as a newbie i want docs and didnt think a minute for
any additional projects) - mount seems broken completely if you use more than 1 package
Mount problem description: i programmed the navomatic border example found on
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/ExampleNavomatic.html and enhanced it with a fourth page (page4) wich lies in a subpackage (my
default is de.navo, where navomatic, page1/page2/page3 are and the package de.navo.test helds the page4).
I then created the init this way (i saw this recommended on javalobby and it makes sense to me, as i like putting things in a
hirarchical way and ordered by their use - public void init() { getSettings().setStripWicketTags(true);
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Wicket Pro: + good idea and model + intuitive and easy to understand + few code needed + OO Cons: - documentation isn worth the word... We've had this discussion many times and it depends on what you think documentation should be. If you mean a manual you are right. That completely sucks and the little there is is horribly out-of-date. On the other hand, we have very decent JavaDocs (whereas most OSS project pretty much suck at that in my opinion) and we put a lot of effort in our examples: wicket-examples (including the compref), wicket-phonebook, wicket-extensions-examples, etc. Personally I prefer to work with examples and test cases over manuals. That said, what we need is someone to take care of the documentation and site. We're an open source project, the current team members are awfully busy with things like supporting this list, fixing and improving Wicket's code, writing a book, etc. There are just no more hours in a day. I other words - like we've consistently been asking through the years - we need people in our team for documentation! Anyone can start right now by going to the WIKI, fix what is wrong, and write something up that you might think would be helpful for others. (wiki tells you things that dont work, are deprecated etc It is maintained by anyone that feels like it (though we try not to allow bots). Eelco - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
On 07/08/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im not a wiki admin so hopefully gwyn is reading with us ;) You are, actually! :-) Anyway, it's certainly worth suggesting to people who're adding code that they mention the version they're using, but I'm not sure how easy it'd be to tweak the wiki to ensure there's a field to be set... /Gwyn as far as the mounts it shouldnt be a problem, wicket resolves the longest mount it can first. -Igor On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, after playing around for only 3 days it might be a bit too early, but basicly i would do some work in that way - btw: you mentioned the wiki and sth, that had was a big problem is that the wiki never tells you what version is covered with the current page, so you should add a needed field there where the users have to enter the version of wicket they write this for -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! - http://wicketframework.org - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] 3 day beginners overview / broken mounts
Maybe just add some notification text to the edit page to remind people to add it. I know the Hibernate forums provide default text in the textarea to remind people to enter as much relevant info as possible, which could be another option. On 8/7/06, Gwyn Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/08/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: im not a wiki admin so hopefully gwyn is reading with us ;)You are, actually! :-)Anyway, it's certainly worth suggesting to people who're adding code that they mention the version they're using, but I'm not sure how easyit'd be to tweak the wiki to ensure there's a field to be set.../Gwyn as far as the mounts it shouldnt be a problem, wicket resolves the longest mount it can first. -Igor On 8/7/06, Korbinian Bachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, after playing around for only 3 days it might be a bit too early, but basicly i would do some work in that way - btw: you mentioned the wiki and sth, that had was a big problem is that the wiki never tells you what version is covered with the current page, so you should add a needed field there where the users have to enter the version of wicket they write this for --Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! - http://wicketframework.org-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
