Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
What I do not understand is why?  We have had maps and nearby functionality
for a very long time 2014 based on Wikidata [1]. It has the benefit of
being of use in any of our languages much more than what Apple has to
offer. This was developed at the Hackathon in Vienna.

OSM maps have as a benefit that they serve countries like Haiti much better
[2]. It is why Doctors Without Borders use their maps and not others [2].

A third reason is that by concentrating on the Apple API and kits we are
not developing for the majority of smart phones.

A fourth reason is that it will enhance the cooperation with the OSM
community.

A final reason is that we are already Wikidatafying Commons; this will have
a geo location part as well and consequently I do not see any advantages in
anything but a Wikidata approach to maps because through queries we can
target Wikipedia articles in a language. A final argument, it will drive
more people to add labels in Wikidata in the language where our coverage is
now not so good. Including English in China.
Thanks,
  GerardM

PS I do have an iPhone.

[1]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/05/wmhack-maps-and-wikidata-ii.html
[2] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2011/03/need-for-up-to-date-maps.html

On 11 March 2017 at 03:59, Jonatan Svensson Glad 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I'm not one who usually writes on these lists, but since it seems like a
> good way to get others opinions (and ince I've already formed my own), I
> thought it was a good way to see what others had to say and think.
>
>
> The mobile team for the iOS app (who are all awesome!)  has recently
> released (in beta) a version of the app which incorporates Apple Maps a one
> of it's main feature, to find articles nearby.
>
>
> "The Wikipedia iOS app has released a beta version (5.4.0 1081) which uses
> Apple maps as its map data source. This is not an easy decision and has
> already sparked some discussion of whether this is acceptable given our
> project's values."
>
>
> These maps are not free (non-libre) and is in my strong opinion against
> our values. We only create and publish things which are freely licensed
> (with fair use imagery being the only exception, after a board resolution
> regarding EDP's).
>
>
> Some reasons why this was done can be read here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Maps_service
>
>
> I was asked if we could use non-free elements as long as we said it was
> non-free and you may not be allowed to re-ue it, and I responded with "If
> we can't find enough editors for Wikipedia, would it ever be alright if we
> copied text from Britannica, as long as we said it was from Britannica, and
> that reusers can not use it" i.e. just because we can't make something,
> doesn't mean we should use something else (non-free thing) to reach our
> 'wants', if it causes us to  loose what is... 'us'.
>
>
> I'm seeking imput and opinions from you all whether this i allowed or not
> our according to values, which states:
>
>
> "An essential part of the Wikimedia Foundation's mission is encouraging
> the development of free-content educational resources that may be created,
> used, and reused by the entire human community. We believe that this
> mission requires thriving open formats and open standards on the web to
> allow the creation of content not subject to restrictions on creation, use,
> and reuse.
>
> At the creation level, we want to provide the editing community with
> freely-licensed tools for participation and collaboration. Our community
> should also have the freedom to fork thanks to freely available dumps.
>
> The community will in turn create a body of knowledge which can be
> distributed freely throughout the world, viewable or playable by free
> software tools."
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[James Heilman]

That link does not for me Jonatan?

But yes if the app is pulling from Apple and giving our users data to Apple
that would not be allowed by the privacy policy. Or at least that is my
understanding.

James

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Jonatan Svensson Glad <
gladjona...@outlook.com> wrote:

> > If the nonfree content is presented as an integral part of the
> interface, such as inline with the article, that's a problem.
>
> It is an "integral part of the interface", so mcu so, it is it's own
> "thing" in the app, and not part of "in articles". See screenshot (which I
> can't upload to Commons) here: https://snag.gy/5RpbXZ.jpg It does not
> just "pull up" Apple Maps, but incorporates in it to the app itself.
>
>
> Jonatan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[James Heilman]

Why are we not using OSM? I know Yuri created tiles within the WMF system
of services and those are what Wikivoyage uses. Wikivoyage was once using
no open maps that were not hosted locally which was a breach of our privacy
policy. Thankfully Yuri created the solution mentioned once the issue was
discussed. Maybe he could help with this aswell?

James

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Todd Allen  wrote:

> I think it depends how it's being used. If the nonfree content is presented
> as an integral part of the interface, such as inline with the article,
> that's a problem. On the other hand, if the interface just allows the
> separate Apple Maps to be pulled up, that's a bit different. We frequently
> link to offsite nonfree content when, for example, we cite such a source as
> a reference. It only becomes a major issue when it's presented as part of
> an article.
>
> My more major concern is, would this be a privacy issue? That concern has
> been brought up before, I think for quite valid reasons, with for example
> social media "Share this" buttons. Would this allow Apple to gather data on
> what a reader is reading?
>
> Todd
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Jonatan Svensson Glad <
> gladjona...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >
> > I'm not one who usually writes on these lists, but since it seems like a
> > good way to get others opinions (and ince I've already formed my own), I
> > thought it was a good way to see what others had to say and think.
> >
> >
> > The mobile team for the iOS app (who are all awesome!)  has recently
> > released (in beta) a version of the app which incorporates Apple Maps a
> one
> > of it's main feature, to find articles nearby.
> >
> >
> > "The Wikipedia iOS app has released a beta version (5.4.0 1081) which
> uses
> > Apple maps as its map data source. This is not an easy decision and has
> > already sparked some discussion of whether this is acceptable given our
> > project's values."
> >
> >
> > These maps are not free (non-libre) and is in my strong opinion against
> > our values. We only create and publish things which are freely licensed
> > (with fair use imagery being the only exception, after a board resolution
> > regarding EDP's).
> >
> >
> > Some reasons why this was done can be read here:
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Maps_service
> >
> >
> > I was asked if we could use non-free elements as long as we said it was
> > non-free and you may not be allowed to re-ue it, and I responded with "If
> > we can't find enough editors for Wikipedia, would it ever be alright if
> we
> > copied text from Britannica, as long as we said it was from Britannica,
> and
> > that reusers can not use it" i.e. just because we can't make something,
> > doesn't mean we should use something else (non-free thing) to reach our
> > 'wants', if it causes us to  loose what is... 'us'.
> >
> >
> > I'm seeking imput and opinions from you all whether this i allowed or not
> > our according to values, which states:
> >
> >
> > "An essential part of the Wikimedia Foundation's mission is encouraging
> > the development of free-content educational resources that may be
> created,
> > used, and reused by the entire human community. We believe that this
> > mission requires thriving open formats and open standards on the web to
> > allow the creation of content not subject to restrictions on creation,
> use,
> > and reuse.
> >
> > At the creation level, we want to provide the editing community with
> > freely-licensed tools for participation and collaboration. Our community
> > should also have the freedom to fork thanks to freely available dumps.
> >
> > The community will in turn create a body of knowledge which can be
> > distributed freely throughout the world, viewable or playable by free
> > software tools."
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[Jonatan Svensson Glad]

> If the nonfree content is presented as an integral part of the interface, 
> such as inline with the article, that's a problem.

It is an "integral part of the interface", so mcu so, it is it's own "thing" in 
the app, and not part of "in articles". See screenshot (which I can't upload to 
Commons) here: https://snag.gy/5RpbXZ.jpg It does not just "pull up" Apple 
Maps, but incorporates in it to the app itself.


Jonatan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[Todd Allen]

I think it depends how it's being used. If the nonfree content is presented
as an integral part of the interface, such as inline with the article,
that's a problem. On the other hand, if the interface just allows the
separate Apple Maps to be pulled up, that's a bit different. We frequently
link to offsite nonfree content when, for example, we cite such a source as
a reference. It only becomes a major issue when it's presented as part of
an article.

My more major concern is, would this be a privacy issue? That concern has
been brought up before, I think for quite valid reasons, with for example
social media "Share this" buttons. Would this allow Apple to gather data on
what a reader is reading?

Todd

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Jonatan Svensson Glad <
gladjona...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
> I'm not one who usually writes on these lists, but since it seems like a
> good way to get others opinions (and ince I've already formed my own), I
> thought it was a good way to see what others had to say and think.
>
>
> The mobile team for the iOS app (who are all awesome!)  has recently
> released (in beta) a version of the app which incorporates Apple Maps a one
> of it's main feature, to find articles nearby.
>
>
> "The Wikipedia iOS app has released a beta version (5.4.0 1081) which uses
> Apple maps as its map data source. This is not an easy decision and has
> already sparked some discussion of whether this is acceptable given our
> project's values."
>
>
> These maps are not free (non-libre) and is in my strong opinion against
> our values. We only create and publish things which are freely licensed
> (with fair use imagery being the only exception, after a board resolution
> regarding EDP's).
>
>
> Some reasons why this was done can be read here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Maps_service
>
>
> I was asked if we could use non-free elements as long as we said it was
> non-free and you may not be allowed to re-ue it, and I responded with "If
> we can't find enough editors for Wikipedia, would it ever be alright if we
> copied text from Britannica, as long as we said it was from Britannica, and
> that reusers can not use it" i.e. just because we can't make something,
> doesn't mean we should use something else (non-free thing) to reach our
> 'wants', if it causes us to  loose what is... 'us'.
>
>
> I'm seeking imput and opinions from you all whether this i allowed or not
> our according to values, which states:
>
>
> "An essential part of the Wikimedia Foundation's mission is encouraging
> the development of free-content educational resources that may be created,
> used, and reused by the entire human community. We believe that this
> mission requires thriving open formats and open standards on the web to
> allow the creation of content not subject to restrictions on creation, use,
> and reuse.
>
> At the creation level, we want to provide the editing community with
> freely-licensed tools for participation and collaboration. Our community
> should also have the freedom to fork thanks to freely available dumps.
>
> The community will in turn create a body of knowledge which can be
> distributed freely throughout the world, viewable or playable by free
> software tools."
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[Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

[Jonatan Svensson Glad]

Hello everyone,


I'm not one who usually writes on these lists, but since it seems like a good 
way to get others opinions (and ince I've already formed my own), I thought it 
was a good way to see what others had to say and think.


The mobile team for the iOS app (who are all awesome!)  has recently released 
(in beta) a version of the app which incorporates Apple Maps a one of it's main 
feature, to find articles nearby.


"The Wikipedia iOS app has released a beta version (5.4.0 1081) which uses 
Apple maps as its map data source. This is not an easy decision and has already 
sparked some discussion of whether this is acceptable given our project's 
values."


These maps are not free (non-libre) and is in my strong opinion against our 
values. We only create and publish things which are freely licensed (with fair 
use imagery being the only exception, after a board resolution regarding EDP's).


Some reasons why this was done can be read here: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Maps_service


I was asked if we could use non-free elements as long as we said it was 
non-free and you may not be allowed to re-ue it, and I responded with "If we 
can't find enough editors for Wikipedia, would it ever be alright if we copied 
text from Britannica, as long as we said it was from Britannica, and that 
reusers can not use it" i.e. just because we can't make something, doesn't mean 
we should use something else (non-free thing) to reach our 'wants', if it 
causes us to  loose what is... 'us'.


I'm seeking imput and opinions from you all whether this i allowed or not our 
according to values, which states:


"An essential part of the Wikimedia Foundation's mission is encouraging the 
development of free-content educational resources that may be created, used, 
and reused by the entire human community. We believe that this mission requires 
thriving open formats and open standards on the web to allow the creation of 
content not subject to restrictions on creation, use, and reuse.

At the creation level, we want to provide the editing community with 
freely-licensed tools for participation and collaboration. Our community should 
also have the freedom to fork thanks to freely available dumps.

The community will in turn create a body of knowledge which can be distributed 
freely throughout the world, viewable or playable by free software tools."
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Status of the Code of Conduct for technical spaces

[Pine W]

Looking at the talk page briefly, I'm seeing few objections to the close
and it appears that no one has reverted it, so it's likely to stick. I
remain skeptical of the process (not to say that it's all bad; Matt
certainly did a lot of outreach on mailing lists), but I wouldn't suggest
using this as a template for good policy development methodology.

Since the plan is to move forward with this, I wish for the best. I'm not a
fan of anarchy and there have been a few incidents in technical spaces in
which I felt there were conduct problems. Hopefully this policy will be a
net benefit.

Pine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] March 10: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#10)

[Pine W]

Thanks Katherine. It's nice to see how this process is coming along. The
weekly updates are helpful.

If I may highlight a point: I very much like Victor's video. I think it has
good perspective(s) on this ambitious project.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2030.wikimedia.org.webm.

Pine
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[Wikimedia-l] March 10: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#10)

[Katherine Maher]

Hi all!

It’s the 10th update! According to English Wikipedia, the traditional gift
for a 10th anniversary is tin and aluminum.[1] So, here is a photo of some
art taken during Wiki Loves Art Netherlands that features a Ta'zīya[2] made
from bamboo and aluminum foil: https://commons.wikimedia.org/?curid=7623863

And now, on with the update!

*Feedback requested*

This week there are two items in particular on Meta-Wiki that would benefit
from your thoughts:

   - What should every participant in the strategy discussions know? The
   briefing document still needs your comments and input to help answer that
   question.
   - https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10184031
   - There have been very few comments on the basic premises that should be
   mutually agreed upon by all participants and used as the basis of
   arguments. Once the discussions start, the premises will be fixed, so we
   would like to invite you to review them now.
   - https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10191140

*All Tracks*

   - The Core Team began mapping out a draft of the movement strategy
   process beyond Wikimania. They will share more details next week.
   - Guillaume and Nick Wilson worked on expanding the content and
   navigation of the Meta-Wiki based Movement Strategy Portal.[3]
   - Victor Grigas completed a video which will be used to promote the
   movement strategy process.[4]


*Track A (Organized groups) and Track B (Individual contributors)*

   - The Core Team spent last week in Seattle with Nicole and Jaime A.,
   onboarding them as Track Leads and working through the details of launching
   Tracks A and B by March 14th.
   - Nicole sent 240 emails to invite organized groups to prepare to host
   discussions. So far, 29 have signed up to be Discussion Coordinators.
   - The Core Team and Track Leads posted the toolkit for coordinating
   community discussions on Meta-Wiki and are finalizing the discussion guide
   and discussion prompts.[5]
   - Nicole published the charter for the Track A Advisory Group and
   started to reach out to potential members.[6]
   - The Core Team discussed types of movements, and how different
   movements are organized, as examples for the strategy briefing on Meta.[7]
   - They also proposed a process to read, interpret, and summarize the
   expected volume of ideas from the consultation in an efficient manner.
   - Guillaume has begun onboarding the 19 part-time language coordinators
   who will be supporting discussions with their language communities.[8] Jan
   Eissfeldt is leading the group of Asian language coordinators. The
   coordinators have already started translating strategy materials and
   planning the outreach to their communities.[9] The coordinators are looking
   for additional volunteers to assist them in their and other communities.[10]


*Track C (Partners and readers in higher awareness regions) and Track D
(Partners and readers in lower awareness regions)*

   - The proposed process for Track C has been published on Meta.[11] We
   welcome your thoughts and feedback on the Track’s talk page.
   - Track Leads have developed a job description for a contract Project
   Assistant to support research, event management, and general coordination.
   If you are interested or have a referral, please apply![12]
   - The Core Team and Track Leads received some great recommendations on
   experts to consult across most regions. The team is discussing how to best
   collect your recommendations and will share an update next week.
   - The Core Team is reviewing research proposals from two potential
   research partners to support survey research and desk research.
   - Track D is talking to Reboot,[13] the firm we have worked with for the
   New Readers project, about coordinating the overall track research. They
   are interviewing local research firms for Egypt, Indonesia, and Brazil.
   They expect to have a final arrangement by the middle of next week.
   - The proposed process for Track D will be posted on Meta-Wiki in the
   coming week.

*Next steps*

   - Final preparations for the launch of Track A & B discussions,
   including posting discussion guide and prompts, strategic direction
   definitions/examples, summary pages/templates on Meta-Wiki, and process map
   (currently being designed by the Communications department).
   - Plan and host orientation sessions for paid and volunteer coordinators
   and translate pages to prepare for launch.
   - Publish program outline for the Strategy Track at Wikimedia Conference
   and finalize the schedule.
   - Identify and select Track C & D research firms and consultants.
   - Continue building out the list of experts and developing the expert
   interview guide for Tracks C & D.

Thank you for joining us for the tenth update - happy weekend!

Cheers,
Katherine

PS. A version of this message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.[14]

[1]

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

[Guillaume Paumier]

Hi Lane,

2017-03-10 8:01 GMT-08:00 Lane Rasberry :

> Congratulations to everyone.
>
> I notice that some of these users do not have their WMF accounts connected
> to their user accounts.
>
> Would it be a problem to ask for user and work accounts to reference each
> other?


Not a problem at all; it is probably an oversight. The coordinators have
had a lot to do this week with onboarding, translations, and preparations,
and it may simply be that they didn't get around to completing their user
page. I would suggest leaving them a friendly note on their talk page if
you notice something missing.

-- 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

[Yaroslav Blanter]

Thanks Guillaume for your answer. I provided enough info for the Community
Engagement to double-check if they want to, and I have no personal interest
in the outcome, so I am happy to leave it as it is now.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Guillaume Paumier 
wrote:

> Hello Yaroslav,
>
> Yes, the Foundation's Community Engagement department, who are the most
> familiar with Wikimedia communities, reviewed the applications thoroughly.
> If you have concerns about a specific person, which obviously can't be
> discussed on a public list, I happy to discuss them with you privately.
>
>
> 2017-03-09 23:48 GMT-08:00 Yaroslav Blanter :
>
> > Thanks the coordinators. I do not know everybody on the list, but I
> > recognize there names of many excellent people.
> >
> > I also see there a name which has rung a bell for me, and the sound of
> the
> > bell was somewhat alarming. I checked and found indeed that the
> coordinator
> > has a sizable block log on the Russian Wikipedia, their home project, for
> > actions which include trolling and disruptive editing, and at some point
> > had to be placed under a topic ban. The most recent block is one and half
> > years ago. Which poses a natural questions whether the candidates were
> > actually screened.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

[Lane Rasberry]

Congratulations to everyone.

I notice that some of these users do not have their WMF accounts connected
to their user accounts.

Would it be a problem to ask for user and work accounts to reference each
other?

Thanks,



On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Guillaume Paumier 
wrote:

> Hello Yaroslav,
>
> Yes, the Foundation's Community Engagement department, who are the most
> familiar with Wikimedia communities, reviewed the applications thoroughly.
> If you have concerns about a specific person, which obviously can't be
> discussed on a public list, I happy to discuss them with you privately.
>
>
> 2017-03-09 23:48 GMT-08:00 Yaroslav Blanter :
>
> > Thanks the coordinators. I do not know everybody on the list, but I
> > recognize there names of many excellent people.
> >
> > I also see there a name which has rung a bell for me, and the sound of
> the
> > bell was somewhat alarming. I checked and found indeed that the
> coordinator
> > has a sizable block log on the Russian Wikipedia, their home project, for
> > actions which include trolling and disruptive editing, and at some point
> > had to be placed under a topic ban. The most recent block is one and half
> > years ago. Which poses a natural questions whether the candidates were
> > actually screened.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

[Guillaume Paumier]

Hello Yaroslav,

Yes, the Foundation's Community Engagement department, who are the most
familiar with Wikimedia communities, reviewed the applications thoroughly.
If you have concerns about a specific person, which obviously can't be
discussed on a public list, I happy to discuss them with you privately.


2017-03-09 23:48 GMT-08:00 Yaroslav Blanter :

> Thanks the coordinators. I do not know everybody on the list, but I
> recognize there names of many excellent people.
>
> I also see there a name which has rung a bell for me, and the sound of the
> bell was somewhat alarming. I checked and found indeed that the coordinator
> has a sizable block log on the Russian Wikipedia, their home project, for
> actions which include trolling and disruptive editing, and at some point
> had to be placed under a topic ban. The most recent block is one and half
> years ago. Which poses a natural questions whether the candidates were
> actually screened.




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcoming 19 long-time Wikimedians as Coordinators for Movement strategy

[Sydney Poore]

+1 I'm thrilled to see this group from around the globe.

Sydney

On Mar 10, 2017 2:55 AM, "Christophe Henner"  wrote:

Welcome in your new roles Venus, Tuan, Todd, Takashi, Oleg, Szymon, Satdeep,
Samuel, Robin, Tomasz, Niccolò, Nahid, Marco, Ran, Jonatan, Gereon, Chico,
Bohdan, and Abbad!!!

For years we've been struggling to get involvement from local communities
in global processes, and with you we're finally gonna make it! :)

Thanks for your help!!!



Christophe HENNER
Chair of the board of trustees
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On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Yaroslav Blanter  wrote:

> Thanks the coordinators. I do not know everybody on the list, but I
> recognize there names of many excellent people.
>
> I also see there a name which has rung a bell for me, and the sound of the
> bell was somewhat alarming. I checked and found indeed that the
coordinator
> has a sizable block log on the Russian Wikipedia, their home project, for
> actions which include trolling and disruptive editing, and at some point
> had to be placed under a topic ban. The most recent block is one and half
> years ago. Which poses a natural questions whether the candidates were
> actually screened.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Anna Stillwell 
> wrote:
>
> > Welcome. Thank you for joining us and offering your talents.
> > /a
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Welcome all! I am so grateful for your participation and perspective
as
> > we
> > > begin this work.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 00:46 Tanweer Morshed 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Welcom to all the 19 Wikimedians! I see, most of the names are
> familiar
> > > to
> > > > me. Thank you all for your dedication for the movement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Tanweer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Tanweer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Guillaume Paumier <
> > > > gpaum...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > As most of you are aware, the Wikimedia movement has embarked on
an
> > > > > ambitious initiative to discuss our collective future and
> determine a
> > > > > movement-wide strategic direction. [1]
> > > > >
> > > > > The movement is composed of people in many different roles,
notably
> > > > > individual contributors who may not be affiliated with any
> organized
> > > > > group. It can be challenging to reach individual contributors and
> > > > > involve them in strategy discussions, since they may not monitor
> the
> > > > > usual communication channels, and they may not think that strategy
> > > > > discussions are relevant to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > For this year’s movement strategy process, the Wikimedia
Foundation
> > > > > has decided to hire 19 part-time discussion coordinators to better
> > > > > bridge the gap between the strategy discussions and local
> communities
> > > > > of contributors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Today, I am thrilled to announce that we have concluded the search
> > and
> > > > > assembled a stellar team of 19 long-time Wikimedians, who have
> agreed
> > > > > to join the movement strategy efforts in this capacity.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you go through the team’s page on Meta-Wiki, you will see many
> > > > > familiar names. [2] The team is composed of Abbad, Bohdan, Chico,
> > > > > Gereon, Jonatan, Ran, Marco, Nahid, Niccolò, Tomasz, Robin,
Samuel,
> > > > > Satdeep, Szymon, Oleg, Takashi, Todd, Tuan, and Venus. Because of
> the
> > > > > team’s geographic distribution, Jan Eissfeldt, from the
> Foundation’s
> > > > > Support and Safety team, has agreed to help lead the day-to-day
> > > > > activities of the group of Asian language coordinators.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the coordinators started on Monday for a 3-month contract, and
> > > > > they have already been hard at work, translating materials on Meta
> > and
> > > > > organizing the outreach to their local communities. [3] Some will
> > > > > focus their efforts on specific language communities [4], and
> others
> > > > > will support an array of smaller communities.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are interested in working with the coordinators to bridge
> the
> > > > > gap with your local communities, I invite you to take a look at
the
> > > > > description of the coordinator role, and sign up using the form on
> > > > > that page. [5] You can also contact them directly via their talk
> > page.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to express my deepest gratitude to everyone who was
involved
> > in
> > > > > this ultra-fast hiring process, most notably the Foundation’s
> Talent
> > &
> > > > > Culture team, who handled the recruiting and administrative
> > onboarding
> > > > > masterfully, and the Community Engagement department, who reached
> out
> > > > > to