Re: [Wikimedia-l] How the Dutch language WP handles COVID-19 (just some inspiration for other small communities)

2020-03-19 Thread Tito Dutta
>
> Therefore, the community decided to take a different approach: through our
> featured article section on the main page <
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoofdpagina>, we now highlight articles to
> put the COVID-19 in a broader perspective.
>
-- That's interesting. It also highlights if anyone/a group of editors
want(s) to focus on "topic of the week/month" or topic-specific online
edit-a-thon, this " COVID-19 in a broader perspective" might be a good
idea. I remember reading a similar message on a Wikipedia talk page.
Thanks for sharing.

Thanks
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 22:38, Ciell Wikipedia 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I read about the beautiful COVID-19 Wikiproject here on wikimedia-l, and
> through Twitter, about the Italian, German en English Wikipedia giving the
> relevant articles on COVID-19 their own box on the front page, to inform
> readers looking for information.
>
> We discussed this
> <
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Corona_wat_prominenter_op_de_hoofdpagina
> ?>
> on the Dutch language Wikipedia and concluded that our community is to
> small and not knowledgable enough, to act as health information portal. We
> have governmental institutes in place where people are being directed if
> they want to know what to do and what not. These websites will always be
> more up to date, and also there is no (large-scaled) mistrust in the
> measures that are now being taken.
>
> Therefore, the community decided to take a different approach: through our
> featured article section on the main page
> , we now highlight articles to
> put the COVID-19 in a broader perspective.
> Today's FA is on Alexander Fleming (Nobel prize winner for his discovery of
> penicillin), the upcoming days for instance will be about the Spanish flu
> (the influenza epidemic that hit Europe just after WW1) and about
> Decamerone (for some reading inspiration).
>
> Maybe a thought for other small communities, that wrestle with the same
> topic.
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
> Ciell
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Tito Dutta
Like Lane, I also could saw the content security error, anyway... I looked
at the Meta-Wiki translate page to understand the template.

I completely agree that Wikimedians, specially WikiMed team and volunteers
are doing excellent work on Wikipedia and other projects. Other than
(English Wikipedia), I personally really liked the Wikidata WikiProject (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19), and
especially the Wikivoyage article (
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_coronavirus_pandemic)

About the banner (I am reading from the Meta-Wiki page)
" Wikipedia will remain online and available for anyone who needs a trusted
source of unbiased information." and "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic >> Add a
full link to the Wikipedia article in the respective language to the
translation."
-- Perhaps it is also good to note the Wikipedia Medical Disclaimer (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer) which says: "
Wikipedia contains articles on many medical topics; however, *no warranty*
is made that any of the articles are accurate..." or General disclaimers (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer). The
possibility remains that in some languages information are not up-to-date,
or fully accurate.

Again it is really good to see extra-ordinary effort by Wikimedians who are
working in this area on different Wikimedia projects.

Thanks
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 07:40, Florence Devouard  wrote:

> Hello
>
> Worth it if someone also took the time to craft us a message to relay on
> social media. Maybe a good punchy visual reusing that site notice message.
>
> Le jeu. 19 mars 2020 à 21:27, Joseph Seddon  a
> écrit :
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> > important to reassure readers across the globe.
> >
> > We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects
> reaffirming
> > our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> > and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> > in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go
> to
> > school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> > needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
> >
> > We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all
> the
> > medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch
> and
> > keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> > thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the
> pandemic.
> > The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> >
> > The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview
> the
> > banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> > multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner
> into
> > your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
> >
> > Stay safe, and wash your hands!
> >
> > --
> > Seddon
> >
> > [1] - Banner Preview:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
> >
> >
> > [2] - Translate link:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Florence Devouard
Hello

Worth it if someone also took the time to craft us a message to relay on
social media. Maybe a good punchy visual reusing that site notice message.

Le jeu. 19 mars 2020 à 21:27, Joseph Seddon  a
écrit :

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
> Seddon
>
> [1] - Banner Preview:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
>
>
> [2] - Translate link:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Perfect, thanks! The plural was indeed part of the confusion :)

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‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 במרץ 2020 ב-23:26 מאת ‪Joseph Seddon‬‏ <‪
jsed...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬

> The latter I believe to be the most applicable, I have dropped the "plural"
> which does more imply the former in english.
>
> Thanks
> Seddon
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:13 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for the invitation.
> >
> > In the part that says "We are proving that, even in a time of social
> > distancing, we can celebrate our human bond by coming together online to
> > share our knowledge and experiences.", the word "experiences" - is it
> more
> > like "life experiences, such as travel, raising kids, etc.", or more like
> > "knowledge acquired from practical work"? The translation would be
> > different in the languages I know.
> >
> > --
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> > http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> > ‪“We're living in pieces,
> > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
> >
> >
> > ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 במרץ 2020 ב-22:27 מאת ‪Joseph Seddon‬‏ <‪
> > jsed...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬
> >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it
> is
> > > important to reassure readers across the globe.
> > >
> > > We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects
> > reaffirming
> > > our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online,
> open
> > > and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral
> information
> > > in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go
> > to
> > > school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone
> who
> > > needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
> > >
> > > We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all
> > the
> > > medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch
> > and
> > > keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> > > thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the
> > pandemic.
> > > The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> > >
> > > The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview
> > the
> > > banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> > > multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner
> > into
> > > your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
> > >
> > > Stay safe, and wash your hands!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Seddon
> > >
> > > [1] - Banner Preview:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
> > >
> > >
> > > [2] - Translate link:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Joseph Seddon
The latter I believe to be the most applicable, I have dropped the "plural"
which does more imply the former in english.

Thanks
Seddon

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:13 PM Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Thanks for the invitation.
>
> In the part that says "We are proving that, even in a time of social
> distancing, we can celebrate our human bond by coming together online to
> share our knowledge and experiences.", the word "experiences" - is it more
> like "life experiences, such as travel, raising kids, etc.", or more like
> "knowledge acquired from practical work"? The translation would be
> different in the languages I know.
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 במרץ 2020 ב-22:27 מאת ‪Joseph Seddon‬‏ <‪
> jsed...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> > important to reassure readers across the globe.
> >
> > We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects
> reaffirming
> > our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> > and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> > in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go
> to
> > school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> > needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
> >
> > We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all
> the
> > medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch
> and
> > keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> > thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the
> pandemic.
> > The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> >
> > The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview
> the
> > banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> > multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner
> into
> > your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
> >
> > Stay safe, and wash your hands!
> >
> > --
> > Seddon
> >
> > [1] - Banner Preview:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
> >
> >
> > [2] - Translate link:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Sam!

Rough headline numbers are being run for pageviews, editors and edits
globally but we will get those numbers tomorrow.

Seddon

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:19 PM Samuel Klein  wrote:

> > "The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> "
>
> Can you run the count for everything in that category, and across all
> languages?
> Should be a good deal more!
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joseph Seddon 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> > important to reassure readers across the globe.
> >
> > We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects
> reaffirming
> > our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> > and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> > in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go
> to
> > school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> > needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
> >
> > We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all
> the
> > medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch
> and
> > keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> > thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the
> pandemic.
> > The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> >
> > The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview
> the
> > banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> > multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner
> into
> > your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
> >
> > Stay safe, and wash your hands!
> >
> > --
> > Seddon
> >
> > [1] - Banner Preview:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
> >
> >
> > [2] - Translate link:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Samuel Klein
> "The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone. "

Can you run the count for everything in that category, and across all
languages?
Should be a good deal more!

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
> Seddon
>
> [1] - Banner Preview:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
>
>
> [2] - Translate link:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Please don't use the "coronavirus pandemic" misnomer, at least in the
version in Portuguese.
"Coronavirus" is a group of virus, not the disease. It's proper name is
COVID-19. Using that misnomer is akin as calling "retrovirus epidemic" to
AIDS, and fertile ground for all kinds of fake news, such as the
"coronavirus" interferons from Cuba and ppl caughting unrelated
"coronavirus" (such as MERS-CoV) and using that to spread panic.
We've already enough "coronavirus" disinformation around without that
banner.

Thanks,
Paulo

Joseph Seddon  escreveu no dia quinta, 19/03/2020
à(s) 20:27:

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
> Seddon
>
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi!

Thanks for the invitation.

In the part that says "We are proving that, even in a time of social
distancing, we can celebrate our human bond by coming together online to
share our knowledge and experiences.", the word "experiences" - is it more
like "life experiences, such as travel, raising kids, etc.", or more like
"knowledge acquired from practical work"? The translation would be
different in the languages I know.

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‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 במרץ 2020 ב-22:27 מאת ‪Joseph Seddon‬‏ <‪
jsed...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
> Seddon
>
> [1] - Banner Preview:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
>
>
> [2] - Translate link:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hey Lane,

That's just a warning by centralnotice in preview that it's detecting an
external script. Nothing to worry about!

Seddon

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:47 PM Lane Rasberry  wrote:

> I see this error message
>
> Content Security Policy violation detected! Tried to load something from
>
> https://xtools.wmflabs.org/api/page/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/NASA?format=html=en
> .
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joseph Seddon 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> > important to reassure readers across the globe.
> >
> > We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects
> reaffirming
> > our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> > and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> > in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go
> to
> > school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> > needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
> >
> > We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all
> the
> > medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch
> and
> > keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> > thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the
> pandemic.
> > The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
> >
> > The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview
> the
> > banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> > multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner
> into
> > your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
> >
> > Stay safe, and wash your hands!
> >
> > --
> > Seddon
> >
> > [1] - Banner Preview:
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
> >
> >
> > [2] - Translate link:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
I see this error message

Content Security Policy violation detected! Tried to load something from
https://xtools.wmflabs.org/api/page/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/NASA?format=html=en
.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:27 PM Joseph Seddon  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
> important to reassure readers across the globe.
>
> We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
> our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
> and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
> in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
> school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
> needs a trusted source of unbiased information.
>
> We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
> medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
> keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
> thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
> The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.
>
> The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
> banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
> multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
> your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.
>
> Stay safe, and wash your hands!
>
> --
> Seddon
>
> [1] - Banner Preview:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US
>
>
> [2] - Translate link:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate=Centralnotice-tgroup-Programmatic_translations_2020=view=%21translated=translate
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[Wikimedia-l] Message to readers from the Wikimedia Foundation regarding COVID-19

2020-03-19 Thread Joseph Seddon
Dear list,

Given the unfolding global events, the Wikimedia Foundations feels it is
important to reassure readers across the globe.

We'll be displaying a short message at the top of the projects reaffirming
our commitment to keep Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects online, open
and free for all. Readers often turn to Wikipedia for neutral information
in times of stress. This is a critical moment for students who can't go to
school, people who have to stay home with their families, and anyone who
needs a trusted source of unbiased information.

We also want to take a moment to acknowledge the invaluable work of all the
medical contributors on Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping a close watch and
keeping misinformation at bay. Coronavirus topics have received tens of
thousands of edits by thousands of editors since the start of the pandemic.
The article has been read more than 30 million times, in English alone.

The message will be displayed just once to readers, and you can preview the
banner [1]. The draft is in English but we want this message to be
multilingual. If you have a moment, please help translate this banner into
your language [2]. Thank you all, for your work and efforts.

Stay safe, and wash your hands!

--
Seddon

[1] - Banner Preview:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA?banner=programmatic_mlWW_rsp_covid19=1=US


[2] - Translate link:
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[Wikimedia-l] How the Dutch language WP handles COVID-19 (just some inspiration for other small communities)

2020-03-19 Thread Ciell Wikipedia
Hi!

I read about the beautiful COVID-19 Wikiproject here on wikimedia-l, and
through Twitter, about the Italian, German en English Wikipedia giving the
relevant articles on COVID-19 their own box on the front page, to inform
readers looking for information.

We discussed this

on the Dutch language Wikipedia and concluded that our community is to
small and not knowledgable enough, to act as health information portal. We
have governmental institutes in place where people are being directed if
they want to know what to do and what not. These websites will always be
more up to date, and also there is no (large-scaled) mistrust in the
measures that are now being taken.

Therefore, the community decided to take a different approach: through our
featured article section on the main page
, we now highlight articles to
put the COVID-19 in a broader perspective.
Today's FA is on Alexander Fleming (Nobel prize winner for his discovery of
penicillin), the upcoming days for instance will be about the Spanish flu
(the influenza epidemic that hit Europe just after WW1) and about
Decamerone (for some reading inspiration).

Maybe a thought for other small communities, that wrestle with the same
topic.

Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of Wikimedia Affiliates Data Portal

2020-03-19 Thread Dumisani Ndubane
Hello Pine

Thank you for your response. We appreciate the stewardship that the
community has on meta, and this is not in dispute.

In this case because we are working with a system that aims to collect
Affiliates data in a structured form, as well as make it accessible to the
community via query tools, it became necessary to protect the Lua modules
and tables that hold this data. The forms themselves are protected by.
default and accessible to administrators only. The individual Affiliates
remain in control of the data that they will submit via these forms.

As the data grows, it is possible that we may move that to another wiki,
should current security concerns on the data validity and integrity
increase. However, we strongly felt that the forms should be developed on
meta in order to avoid disrupting established reporting norms by Wikimedia
Affiliates.

Be assured that we will continue to be sensitive to community stewardship
as we improve the system.

Best regards

Dumisani Ndubane

Monitoring & Evaluation Strategist

Wikimedia Foundation 



On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 11:16 PM Pine W  wrote:

> Hello Dumisani ,
>
> I would like to remind you of the questions in this thread, although I
> understand that there may be some delays in getting responses due to
> the issues with Covid-19.
>
> I have not looked into the new portal and I don't have an opinion
> about it, but I hope that affiliates will find it to be an
> improvement.
>
> I have one point that I would like to make. Protection of a page is an
> administrative action, and I do not believe that any WMF staff should
> make content administrative actions on Meta unless under exceptional
> circumstances such as a legal mandate. If WMF wants a page on Meta to
> be protected, then WMF should make a request to a community
> administrator for page protection, which the administrator may
> independently decide whether to grant. If WMF wants more control over
> content, then a more appropriate venue for affiliate reports would be
> one of the WMF wikis instead of a (mostly) community wiki. I feel that
> it is important that WMF staff not encroach on the jurisdiction of the
> community such as by making administrative actions, however small,
> that can and should be done instead by community administrators.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] [Covid-19] Postponing Wikimania Bangkok until 2021

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Lih
Hi all,

We are indeed investigating remote options not just for Wikimania, but for
many events, meetups and conferences for 2020 and beyond. Please feel free
to join the meta page and conversation around the tools and paradigms for
doing remote events.

Meta page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiProject_remote_event_participation
Telegram chat: https://t.me/joinchat/FE0P5FlfxzREOMlLljnNcA

-Andrew


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:32 AM Thomas Shafee 
wrote:

> Regarding remote participation Wikimania 2020:
>
> The *Research Data Alliance* has moved it's current conference that was
> meant to be over the next five days to in stead be online across 18 march -
> 10 Apr (several sessions of high interest to wikimedians):
>
>- *https://www.rd-alliance.org/rda-virtual-plenary-programme
> *
>
> What was previously $700 is now free and was re-organised with only 1
> week's notice. Possible learning items for a remote Wikimania? It's a mixed
> working-group and plenary session based format that is highly relevant to
> wikimedia movement.
>
> All the best,
> Thomas
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 13:33, Roman Bustria Jr. 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Katherine for this update.
> >
> > We at ESEAP confirm that Wikimania will not happen this year. We
> appreciate
> > your support and understanding on this recent development.
> >
> > We will continue to collaborate with the Wikimania Steering Committee and
> > the Wikimedia Foundation with the remaining tasks to be done and plan
> > accordingly for next year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Butch Bustria
> > Head of Communications
> > ESEAP Wikimania Organizing Team
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 4:57 AM Katherine Maher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear everyone,
> > >
> > > As a part of the Wikimedia movement’s ongoing response to the COVID-19
> > > pandemic, we are postponing Wikimania Bangkok 2020. This decision was
> > made
> > > with the full support of the ESEAP host team and Wikimania Committee.
> > > Together, we will hold Wikimania in Bangkok in 2021.
> > >
> > > We are filled with sadness to not see you all in Bangkok in August.
> > > However, we are confident that this is the best possible decision for
> the
> > > well-being of our global community and public health overall. This
> > decision
> > > was proposed by the ESEAP organizers in line with their countries’
> > response
> > > to the COVID-19 pandemic and is in line with recommendations from the
> > World
> > > Health Organization (WHO).
> > >
> > > You are certain to have many questions. We hope to answer some of your
> > > questions below. We will continue to answer questions on the Wikimania
> > > Meta-Wiki page and on the Wikimania Telegram group chat (more
> information
> > > below).
> > >
> > >
> > > *== What does “postponing” Wikimania mean? ==*
> > > We will not host an in-person Wikimania in 2020. We are rescheduling
> > > Wikimania Bangkok until 2021. The ESEAP organizing team[2] will
> continue
> > > their work as a regional collaborative between affiliates in the East,
> > > South East, and Pacific regions to host us in Thailand next year.
> > >
> > > The hotel and venue[3] in Bangkok will remain the same. We have not yet
> > > finalized dates for 2021. We will work with the ESEAP team and
> Wikimania
> > > Steering Committee to confirm new dates. We will let you know these
> dates
> > > by the end of 2020.
> > >
> > > The good news is that Wikimania 2021 will coincide with Wikipedia’s
> 20th
> > > birthday year. We expect this to be a truly memorable Wikimania -- an
> > > opportunity to celebrate reconnection after a year apart, along with
> the
> > > remarkable accomplishment of two decades of free knowledge.
> > >
> > > *== Will there be an alternative to the in-person event? ==*
> > >
> > > There are no plans by the 2020 Wikimania hosts to organize a virtual,
> > > online event. Hosting Wikimania is a lot of work. The ESEAP team is
> > > committed to hosting the best possible in-person event in Bangkok in
> > 2021.
> > > Therefore, they will not have the capacity to organize a virtual
> > Wikimania
> > > this year.
> > >
> > > However, the Wikimania committee, the ESEAP host team, and the
> Wikimedia
> > > Foundation all recognize that other members of the community may be
> > > interested in organizing a remote, global Wikimedia event for 2020.
> > > Although the Wikimedia Foundation does not have the capacity at this
> time
> > > to lead the organizing of a virtual online conference, we recognize
> > others
> > > may have the desire to do so.
> > >
> > > We welcome discussion about online events. Interested parties are
> welcome
> > > to contact the Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimania Foundation
> > staff
> > > for advice on the Wikimania Meta-Wiki page[1].
> > >
> > > We are also considering proposals for improving the capacity of
> > > communities to organize local virtual convenings, and for how we can
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Education Office Hours, March 2020

2020-03-19 Thread Sailesh Patnaik
Hi everyone,

A gentle reminder, we have the education office hours today at 12:00 PM
UTC, in the next 6 hours. It is a good time to check-in with each other and
see how we can better support our work. Also, as you know that the
pandemic is affecting more than 500 Million students worldwide. please let
us know how Wikimedia projects can be helpful in this time:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdIN2H68TDlsYzXxHJJfUggdeSoPhRr5ifkDsmQne5YzUS0wA/viewform

You can join the call by clicking here: https://meet.google.com/pzb-ancr-nhc

Best!
Sailesh  

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:09 PM Sailesh Patnaik 
wrote:

> Juhar everyone,
>
> Sorry for crossposting. We are here with the education office hours for
> the month of March. Know more here:
> https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/wikimedia-education-office-hours/3263
> Join us on 19th March 2020 at 12:00 PM UTC.
>
> The agenda for March Office Hours are:
>
> -Reading Wikipedia pages are now on Outreach, know more about the research
> -Wikimedia Education evaluation recommendations
> -Highlight series by the education team
> -Please add other topics you want to discuss during the event:
>
> Looking forward to seeing you all then, Please let me know if you have any
> questions.
>
> Do you want to reach out to the education team for a 1:1 consultation?
> Request for a slot for Education Office Space (
> ttps://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/About/Office_Space
>  ) by
> filling this google form ( http://bit.ly/EduOfficeSpace )
>
> Dhanyabaad!
> --
> *Sailesh Patnaik*
> Program Coordinator, Education
>


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