Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mark Koskenmaki]

I can't.  I"m not there.

I just offered space and hosting and a domain for someone to be able to
document what they're doing.

I'm sorry if you take offense at the idea that the blog, though neat and
interesting, doesn't solidly document what's going on.

I sorta doubt the folks doing the stuff have the time, really.   Not unless
it was as convenient as the blog.


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From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations


> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> >The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that.
> >
> >It has some entries and some unlabeled photos.  Interesting, but
> >not really "documenting".
>
> THen, you do it.  If you can do things so much better than everyone
> else (and it seems that way to me), then just do it.
>
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> Bernie, MO
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Re: [WISPA] MRTG

[Barry at Mutual Data]

Brian,

Look here, all in one package fairly straightforward install.
http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/mrtg-xtra.php

Free version too!!!

Barry



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see XP anywhere in here 
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl


I'm asking, what specific thing do I download from there.  Someone 
hold my hand here.  :)  I don't have a clue.


Brian

Jory Privett wrote:

You need the active Perl instillation files. Apache is a web server. 
It is used so you can view the files made by MRTG over the internet.  
If you only care to view them on the one local PC then you don't need 
to worry about it.Yes  both will work on an XP Desktop.  That's where 
mine runs.
 
Jory Privett

WCCS

- Original Message -
*From:* Brian Rohrbacher 
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:45 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] MRTG

What do I need from here  
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl


and what is Apache?  Will it work on my XP desktop.  Thats all I
have to work with.

Jory Privett wrote:

That is all you need id you will use the Microsoft Web server. 
If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it

will work also.
 
Jory Privett

WCCS

- Original Message -
*From:* Brian Rohrbacher 
*To:* WISPA General List 
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM
*Subject:* [WISPA] MRTG

I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph usage. 
I don't know what to download.  I guess I need some
ActivePerl. 
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl 
I don't know what to get for XP.  And for MRTG, I downloaded
from here 
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/  I

downloaded this one,

[   ] MRTG-2.12.2.zip   19-Jun-2005 15:40  1.6M(5th from the top)   



Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need?  Do I need anything else?  If so, what and where (be specific).  For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need.  
Then I can attempt to put it all together.



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RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mike Delp]

Mark,

If you look at my blog,  You can see some of the action I did, and some
photos I took.  The main problem is I did it while driving back to work, and
a couple of days after.  I did not have time to blog while I was down at
Mac's.  Everything is going on at a very fast pace, between actual work, and
planning the next days work.  The guys that were at base camp all day doing
administrative type stuff, were also doing "grunt" work whenever needed, and
they were needed quite often.  They would have been the only ones that
possibly could have had time to do something, and you have seen what they
have been able to accomplish.  My hats are off to Paul Smith and  Jeff Allen
and the other guys that have had time to post what has been happening down
there.  I would not like to see an open website that anyone can post to, so
it should be left to the few that are maintaining it.

Here is my blog.  Not much, and I missed out on the devastation on the
coast.

http://wispengineer.blogspot.com


Mike


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Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations


The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that.

It has some entries and some unlabeled photos.   Interesting, but not really
"documenting".


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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations


> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> >I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all
> >the wireless teams down south...  Just who and what and where.
>
> http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/
>
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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Butch Evans]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

>The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that.
>
>It has some entries and some unlabeled photos.  Interesting, but
>not really "documenting".

THen, you do it.  If you can do things so much better than everyone
else (and it seems that way to me), then just do it.

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Bernie, MO
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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Brian Rohrbacher]

If I had a link to a site which is full documentation of all the work
Mac and the boys have done, I'd send out a mass email to all my subs
and everyone I know asking them to donate a $20.

Brian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not
necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. 
Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones
and PC's, things like that.
   
  Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? 
Other groups are putting out the things they have done and getting
press.  Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of
people using our installations.
   
  Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to
friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate.  A few
responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when some have time you can
do the same.  I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think
Mac got a few $25's out of it.  Not much but buys some gas or healthier
food.  I just donated another $100 myself.
   
  Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
Cognigen Founders' Club member
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
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[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 7, Issue 120

[WWS2]

Thanks Mike and all who posted links!
 
Walter
 
In a message dated 9/21/2005 8:23:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Message: 
  3Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:33:59 -0500From: "Mike Delp" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and 
  DonationsTo: "'WISPA General List'" 
  Message-ID: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; 
  charset="us-ascii"Walter,  here is a link to the photos I took 
  while down at the northernLouisiana camp.  I had to head back to 
  work, when the rest of the group wentto the coast.  Also,  go to 
  flickr.com and do a tag search forkatrinawireless for more pics. From the 
  guys.

 
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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mark Koskenmaki]

The blog is interesting, but it doesn't do that.

It has some entries and some unlabeled photos.   Interesting, but not really
"documenting".


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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations


> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
>
> >I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all
> >the wireless teams down south...  Just who and what and where.
>
> http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/
>
> -- 
> Butch Evans
> BPS Networks  http://www.bpsnetworks.com/
> Bernie, MO
> Mikrotik Certified Consultant
> (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html)
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RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

[Scott Reed]

Not to mention that  TV programming coming from a satellite is digital and therefore data, not TV signal (analog).

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


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From: Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


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Sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:51:25 -0400 


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> The latency is not due to the signal type, but the physics of traveling 
that 
> 

distance.  DirectWay is data, not TV signals.  The service is operated 
by 
> 

DirecTV, but it is no different than any other VSAT terminal. 
> 
> 

Joe 
> 
> 

-Original Message- 
> 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> 

Behalf Of David A. Browning 
> 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:00 PM 
> 

To: WISPA General List 
> 

Subject: RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? 
> 
> 

I use satellite in my mobile wireless distribution trailers. With commercial 

> 

grade accounts the bandwidth is decent, but the inherent latency makes VOIP 

> 

typically unusable. You of course notice some delay on the click through 

> 

items as well, but what do you expect for a signal that has to travel 50,000 

> 

miles round trip? There are better systems than Direcway, but the equipment 

> 

costs are ten times more. Direcway's systems are based on TV signal and data 

> 

has to be converted in the transition,  others are based off data signals 

> 

only have far lower latency. 
> 
> 

Thanks! 
> 
> 

David A. Browning 
> 

Advanced Wireless Networks 
> 

(541) 280-5834 
> 
> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 

Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 
> 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:29 AM 
> 

To: WISPA General List 
> 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? 
> 
> 

It's common outside the US as there are often not good connections to even 

> 

the largest cities in many countries. 
> 
> 

In the US I've heard of it being done.  Usually the costs are much higher 

> 

and the performance lower than lan based systems (for $300 to $400 per month 

> 

you can get a 5 year lease on a LOT of high end backhaul gear and cover many 

> 

tens of miles). 
> 
> 

laters, 
> 

Marlon 
> 

(509) 982-2181                    
               Equipment sales 
> 

(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                  
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> 

42846865 (icq)                    
                And I run my own wisp! 

> 

64.146.146.12 (net meeting) 
> 

www.odessaoffice.com/wireless 
> 

www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam 
> 
> 

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To:  
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:25 PM 
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Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone? 
> 
> 

> Hello everyone, 
> 

> 
> 

>    Has anyone successfully used satellite (ie, Directway 7700 or 
similar) 
> 

> as their source of upstream bandwidth?  If so or if not, why?  
How did it 
> 

> turn out?  Any suggestions?  T1's are hard to come by here, and 
I'm still 
> 

> shopping for alternatives. 
> 

> 
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> Jason Wallace 
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RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

[Joe Fiero]

The latency is not due to the signal type, but the physics of traveling that
distance.  DirectWay is data, not TV signals.  The service is operated by
DirecTV, but it is no different than any other VSAT terminal.

Joe

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of David A. Browning
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

I use satellite in my mobile wireless distribution trailers. With commercial
grade accounts the bandwidth is decent, but the inherent latency makes VOIP
typically unusable. You of course notice some delay on the click through
items as well, but what do you expect for a signal that has to travel 50,000
miles round trip? There are better systems than Direcway, but the equipment
costs are ten times more. Direcway's systems are based on TV signal and data
has to be converted in the transition,  others are based off data signals
only have far lower latency.

Thanks!

David A. Browning
Advanced Wireless Networks
(541) 280-5834

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

It's common outside the US as there are often not good connections to even
the largest cities in many countries.

In the US I've heard of it being done.  Usually the costs are much higher
and the performance lower than lan based systems (for $300 to $400 per month
you can get a 5 year lease on a LOT of high end backhaul gear and cover many
tens of miles).

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?


> Hello everyone,
>
>Has anyone successfully used satellite (ie, Directway 7700 or similar)
> as their source of upstream bandwidth?  If so or if not, why?  How did it
> turn out?  Any suggestions?  T1's are hard to come by here, and I'm still
> shopping for alternatives.
>
> Jason Wallace
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Re: [WISPA] MRTG

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't see XP anywhere in here http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl

I'm asking, what specific thing do I download from there.  Someone hold
my hand here.  :)  I don't have a clue.

Brian

Jory Privett wrote:

  
  
  You need the active Perl
instillation files. Apache is a web server. It is used so you can view
the files made by MRTG over the internet.  If you only care to view
them on the one local PC then you don't need to worry about it.Yes 
both will work on an XP Desktop.  That's where mine runs.
   
  Jory Privett
  WCCS
  
  
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From:
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To:
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Sent:
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Subject:
Re: [WISPA] MRTG


What do I need from here   http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl

and what is Apache?  Will it work on my XP desktop.  Thats all I have
to work with.

Jory Privett wrote:

  
  
  That is all you need id you will
use the Microsoft Web server.  If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it will
work also.
   
  Jory Privett
  WCCS
  
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To:
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General List 
Sent:
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Subject:
[WISPA] MRTG


I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph usage.  I don't
know what to download.  I guess I need some ActivePerl.  http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl 
I don't know what to get for XP.  And for MRTG, I downloaded from here 
http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/ 
I downloaded this one, 
 MRTG-2.12.2.zip  19-Jun-2005 15:40  1.6M(5th from the top)   


Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need?  Do I need anything else?  If so, what and where (be specific).  For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need.  
Then I can attempt to put it all together.


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Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

[Pete Davis. NoDial.net]

The high latency of satelite based internet makes it un-friendly for 
VOIP, VPN, online gaming, etc.
The slow upload speed that is usually offered doesn't make it very 
friendly for much else.
I have considered getting one to redirect P2P traffic to in order to 
free up T1's.


Pete Davis
NoDial.net

David A. Browning wrote:


I use satellite in my mobile wireless distribution trailers. With commercial
grade accounts the bandwidth is decent, but the inherent latency makes VOIP
typically unusable. You of course notice some delay on the click through
items as well, but what do you expect for a signal that has to travel 50,000
miles round trip? There are better systems than Direcway, but the equipment
costs are ten times more. Direcway's systems are based on TV signal and data
has to be converted in the transition,  others are based off data signals
only have far lower latency.

Thanks!

David A. Browning
Advanced Wireless Networks
(541) 280-5834

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?

It's common outside the US as there are often not good connections to even
the largest cities in many countries.

In the US I've heard of it being done.  Usually the costs are much higher
and the performance lower than lan based systems (for $300 to $400 per month
you can get a 5 year lease on a LOT of high end backhaul gear and cover many
tens of miles).

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Satellite Anyone?


 


Hello everyone,

  Has anyone successfully used satellite (ie, Directway 7700 or similar)
as their source of upstream bandwidth?  If so or if not, why?  How did it
turn out?  Any suggestions?  T1's are hard to come by here, and I'm still
shopping for alternatives.

Jason Wallace
WISP Startup in AZ

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RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mike Delp]

Walter,  here is a link to the photos
I took while down at the northern Louisiana
camp.  I had to head back to work, when the rest of the group went to the
coast.  Also,  go to flickr.com and do a tag search for katrinawireless
for more pics. From the guys.

 

I can’t get the pics to show up on
my blog yet though.

I’mm gonna try wordpress next on my
site.

 

 

http://www.midconqc.com/gallery

Camp Shagnasty and

Relief pics are the two folders from my
trip.

 

Hope this helps

 

Mike









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21,
2005 12:21 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR
and Donations



 



I wish 'our team' down South would put up
more pictures-not necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are
doing.  Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our
phones and PC's, things like that.





 





Second-does anyone have a PR person on
staff or 'related'?  Other groups are putting out the things they have
done and getting press.  Our group should be showing some more press with
pictures of people using our installations.





 





Third-I sent out over the weekend 100
letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate.  A few
responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when some have time you can do
the same.  I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac
got a few $25's out of it.  Not much but buys some gas or healthier
food.  I just donated another $100 myself. 



 





Walter
W. Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
Cognigen Founders' Club member
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ
 07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
fax 775-667-1995
WISPA member
http://ld.net/?wstumpf










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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[rcomroe]

I'd been following the wordpress site (great work).  The format for pictures 
changed a couple times over the past week, and as of the last format change 
all links to pictures seem to be gone.  Am I missing it?

Rich

- Original Message - 
From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 2:49 PM
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

>I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all
>the wireless teams down south...  Just who and what and where.

http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/

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Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act:Senate Bill S.1504

[Tom DeReggi]

NO, unless we trade support for support back. This is a bill to promote 
Rapid TELCO expansion.  Consumer Choice meaning, Choice to use Verizon 
instead of Cable Franchise.


The question is, do WISPs consider the cable industry or ILEC industry a 
bigger competitor?  Making ILECs a stronger competitor does not make Cable 
companies a lesser competitor to us.


The question is, will the senators consider adding text to support WISPs, so 
that Consumer Choice is really a consumer choice bill?


My opinion is, the longer it takes ILECs to build out their fiber to the 
home, the better off WISPs are to gain market share. ILEC fiber buildout is 
cost effective only as a tripple play in my mind.  Helping ILECS provide 
video, I don't see as very smart.


However, these rules could be beneficial to CLECs and ISPs, so that they can 
build out their own network also offering the tripple play in competition 
with ILECs and Cable Companies, using the rules of the bill.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Cc: "Kristopher Twomey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice 
Act:Senate Bill S.1504




Hm.

Kris, know anything about this?  Is this something that wispa should stand 
behind?


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: 
Senate Bill S.1504



Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill 
S.1504


On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the 
Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among 
other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees 
(perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill 
is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right 
to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all 
zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises
and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public 
with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a 
summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are 
available here.
  (See web 
site for full review and links.)
(Draft legislation is at:) 


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Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504

[Tom DeReggi]

Don't let the title fool ya.  This bill is written by the Telco.  Passing 
this as is, could be the worst thing that could ever happen to a wireless 
provider, As ILEC's tripple play to the home, gets installed in turbo mode. 
What iritates me most, is this type of legislation that does not adequately 
support WISPs as an intrical player in the telecom market.  Based on some 
possible changes, this bill could be turned into a bill that actually could 
help WISPs.  WISPA should have a formal response to this legislation, as far 
as modifications, we suggest.  I believe its likely that a version of this 
bill could go through that gives ILECs more preferencial treatment. It 
critical that rules to support WISPs are also added to the bill, if it does 
go through.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: 
Senate Bill S.1504



Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill 
S.1504


On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the 
Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among 
other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees 
(perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is 
not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to 
use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of 
cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises
and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public 
with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a 
summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are 
available here.
  (See web 
site for full review and links.)
(Draft legislation is at:) 


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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Butch Evans]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

>I'm talking about a site which simply documents the efforts of all
>the wireless teams down south...  Just who and what and where.

http://www.radioresponse.org/wordpress/

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RE: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Rick Harnish]

Yee Haw, The POT BELLY SNEECHES RULE!  Congrats Mac!  Now go see that
beautiful wife of yours.  Your two days late for your 25th anniversary.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations


Hey Gang,

Just a REALLY fast email from Bay St. Louis - - Waveland Mississippi - - 
- - - - -

we are now running a 45 meg pipe into town!! This is the second email 
sent through terrestrial link so stand bu for an update tonight. I 
havent had internet acces, I have been on towers from 7:00am to dark:30 
and just havent had the energy to post via a satellite link. I apologize 
for this, but my arse is dragging 10 feet behind me right now!! Time for 
a bath, a bunch of brew and LUNCH

Mac



Rick Harnish wrote:

> Walter,
>
> Here is a link to some of the pictures I took while John and I were 
> down there this weekend. 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ I have some 
> of Mac up on a tower 200' but I have filled up my allotment right now. 
> I am hoping to get an upgrade to a larger account very soon.
>
> Concerning the press, we have been generating press releases and have 
> gotten responses from the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and 
> the NYTimes to name a few. New America also did a nice piece last 
> week. Any help you can give in that department is appreciated. With 
> all the Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost.
>
> Thanks,
>
> **/Rick Harnish/**
>
> /President/
>
> /OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.///
>
> /260-827-2482 Office/
>
> /260-307-4000 Cell/
>
> /260-918-4340 VoIP///
>
> /www.oibw.net /
>
> **/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /**
>
> **/ /***/ /*
>
> **//**
>
> 
>
> 
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>




> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations
>
> I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not 
> necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. 
> Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones 
> and PC's, things like that.
>
> Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other 
> groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. 
> Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people 
> using our installations.
>
> Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to 
> friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org 
>  site and donate. A few responded back that they 
> did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if 
> they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out 
> of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated 
> another $100 myself.
>
> Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
> Xanadu Group Inc.
> Cognigen Founders' Club member
> 179 Statesville Quarry Road
> Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA
> 973-702-3899
> fax 775-667-1995
> WISPA member
> http://ld.net/?wstumpf
>


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   "High Speed Internet for the South"
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Re: [Emergency-Relief] [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mac Dearman]

Hey Gang,

Just a REALLY fast email from Bay St. Louis - - Waveland Mississippi - - 
- - - - -


we are now running a 45 meg pipe into town!! This is the second email 
sent through terrestrial link so stand bu for an update tonight. I 
havent had internet acces, I have been on towers from 7:00am to dark:30 
and just havent had the energy to post via a satellite link. I apologize 
for this, but my arse is dragging 10 feet behind me right now!! Time for 
a bath, a bunch of brew and LUNCH


Mac



Rick Harnish wrote:


Walter,

Here is a link to some of the pictures I took while John and I were 
down there this weekend. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ I have some 
of Mac up on a tower 200’ but I have filled up my allotment right now. 
I am hoping to get an upgrade to a larger account very soon.


Concerning the press, we have been generating press releases and have 
gotten responses from the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and 
the NYTimes to name a few. New America also did a nice piece last 
week. Any help you can give in that department is appreciated. With 
all the Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost.


Thanks,

**/Rick Harnish/**

/President/

/OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.///

/260-827-2482 Office/

/260-307-4000 Cell/

/260-918-4340 VoIP///

/www.oibw.net /

**/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /**

**/ /***/ /*

**//**





*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
*On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]








*Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM
*To:* wireless@wispa.org
*Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not 
necessarily of the destruction, but of the work that they are doing. 
Like Mac 200' up a tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones 
and PC's, things like that.


Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'? Other 
groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press. 
Our group should be showing some more press with pictures of people 
using our installations.


Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to 
friends-relatives-co workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org 
 site and donate. A few responded back that they 
did do it. Maybe when some have time you can do the same. I asked if 
they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out 
of it. Not much but buys some gas or healthier food. I just donated 
another $100 myself.


Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
Cognigen Founders' Club member
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
fax 775-667-1995
WISPA member
http://ld.net/?wstumpf




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   www.inetsouth.com
  "High Speed Internet for the South"
318-728-8600   318-450-4101 NOC  
   


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Re: [WISPA] MRTG

[Jory Privett]

You need the active Perl instillation files. Apache 
is a web server. It is used so you can view the files made by MRTG over the 
internet.  If you only care to view them on the one local PC then you don't 
need to worry about it.Yes  both will work on an XP Desktop.  That's 
where mine runs.
 
Jory Privett
WCCS

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Rohrbacher 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] MRTG
  What do I need from here   http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerland 
  what is Apache?  Will it work on my XP desktop.  Thats all I have to 
  work with.Jory Privett wrote: 
  



That is all you need id you will use the 
Microsoft Web server.  If you want you can download Apache http://www.apache.org and it will work 
also.
 
Jory Privett
WCCS

  - 
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  To: 
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  List 
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:27 PM
  Subject: 
  [WISPA] MRTG
  I need to get MRTG on my XP computer so I can graph 
  usage.  I don't know what to download.  I guess I need some 
  ActivePerl.  http://www.activestate.com/Products/Download/Download.plex?id=ActivePerl  
  I don't know what to get for XP.  And for MRTG, I downloaded from 
  here  http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/pub/  
  I downloaded this one,  MRTG-2.12.2.zip  19-Jun-2005 15:40  1.6M(5th from the top)   


Sodo I have the right MRTG, and what ActivePerl do I need?  Do I need anything else?  If so, what and where (be specific).  For now I just need to get everything downloaded I need.  
Then I can attempt to put it all together.


Brian

  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mark Koskenmaki]

Ok, let me clear this up...
 
I'm talking about a site which simply documents the 
efforts of all the wireless teams down south...  Just who and what and 
where.
 
Mark
 
 
 
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 
509-593-4061personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot 
netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, 
NO 
WIRES!-

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark Koskenmaki 
  
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and 
  Donations
  
   
  If someone wants to do the web work and put up 
  the scripting...
   
  I'll donate a domain name, hosting, and at least 
  a gig of space
   
  Mark
   
   
   
  North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
  to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
  neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
  WIRES!-
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Rick Harnish 
To: 'WISPA General List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 
11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR 
and Donations


Walter,
 
Here is a link to 
some of the pictures I took while John and I were down there this weekend.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ 
 I have some of Mac up on a 
tower 200’ but I have filled up my allotment right now.  I am hoping to get an upgrade to a 
larger account very soon.
 
Concerning the 
press, we have been generating press releases and have gotten responses from 
the Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a 
few.  New America also 
did a nice piece last week.  Any 
help you can give in that department is appreciated.  With all the Katrina news lately, 
stories like this seem to get lost.
 
Thanks,
 

Rick 
Harnish
President
OnlyInternet 
Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 
Office
260-307-4000 
Cell
260-918-4340 
VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  

 





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 
12:21 PMTo: 
wireless@wispa.orgCc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and 
Donations
 

I 
wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the 
destruction, but of the work that they are doing.  Like Mac 200' up a 
tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones 
and PC's, things like that.

 

Second-does anyone 
have a PR person on staff or 'related'?  Other groups are putting out 
the things they have done and getting press.  Our group should be 
showing some more press with pictures of people using our 
installations.

 

Third-I sent out 
over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers asking 
them to go to the www.wispa.org site and 
donate.  A few responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when 
some have time you can do the same.  I asked if they could donate 
$10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it.  Not much 
but buys some gas or healthier food.  I just donated another $100 
myself. 

 

Walter W. Stumpf 
Jr.Xanadu Group Inc.Cognigen Founders' Club member179 Statesville Quarry 
RoadLafayette NJ 
07848-3128 USA973-702-3899fax 
775-667-1995WISPA 
memberhttp://ld.net/?wstumpf



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RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Rick Harnish]

More pictures:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/katrinawireless/

 

 



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President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21,
2005 12:21 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR
and Donations



 



I wish
'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the
destruction, but of the work that they are doing.  Like Mac 200' up a
tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things
like that.





 





Second-does
anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'?  Other groups are putting
out the things they have done and getting press.  Our group should be
showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations.





 





Third-I
sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers
asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site
and donate.  A few responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when
some have time you can do the same.  I asked if they could donate
$10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it.  Not much but
buys some gas or healthier food.  I just donated another $100 myself. 



 





Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
Cognigen Founders' Club member
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ
 07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
fax 775-667-1995
WISPA member
http://ld.net/?wstumpf










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Re: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Mark Koskenmaki]

 
If someone wants to do the web work and put up the 
scripting...
 
I'll donate a domain name, hosting, and at least a 
gig of space
 
Mark
 
 
 
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to:  mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to:  purchasing at 
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WIRES!-

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rick Harnish 
  To: 'WISPA General List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:14 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and 
  Donations
  
  
  Walter,
   
  Here is a link to 
  some of the pictures I took while John and I were down there this weekend.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/ 
   I have some of Mac up on a tower 
  200’ but I have filled up my allotment right now.  I am hoping to get an upgrade to a 
  larger account very soon.
   
  Concerning the press, 
  we have been generating press releases and have gotten responses from the 
  Washington Post, Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a few.  New America also 
  did a nice piece last week.  Any 
  help you can give in that department is appreciated.  With all the Katrina news lately, 
  stories like this seem to get lost.
   
  Thanks,
   
  
  Rick 
  Harnish
  President
  OnlyInternet 
  Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
  260-827-2482 
  Office
  260-307-4000 
  Cell
  260-918-4340 
  VoIP
  www.oibw.net
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
    
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 
  PMTo: 
  wireless@wispa.orgCc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and 
  Donations
   
  
  I wish 
  'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the 
  destruction, but of the work that they are doing.  Like Mac 200' up a 
  tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things 
  like that.
  
   
  
  Second-does anyone 
  have a PR person on staff or 'related'?  Other groups are putting out the 
  things they have done and getting press.  Our group should be showing 
  some more press with pictures of people using our 
  installations.
  
   
  
  Third-I 
  sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers 
  asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site 
  and donate.  A few responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when 
  some have time you can do the same.  I asked if they could donate 
  $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it.  Not much but 
  buys some gas or healthier food.  I just donated another $100 myself. 
  
  
   
  
  Walter W. Stumpf 
  Jr.Xanadu Group Inc.Cognigen Founders' Club member179 Statesville Quarry 
  RoadLafayette NJ 
  07848-3128 USA973-702-3899fax 
  775-667-1995WISPA 
  memberhttp://ld.net/?wstumpf
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[Rick Harnish]

Walter,

 

Here is a link to some of the pictures I
took while John and I were down
there this weekend.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/wispa_rick_harnish/44998312/
 I have some of Mac up on a tower
200’ but I have filled up my allotment right now.  I am hoping to get an upgrade to a
larger account very soon.

 

Concerning the press, we have been
generating press releases and have gotten responses from the Washington Post,
Network World, LATimes and the NYTimes to name a few.  New America also did a nice piece last week.  Any help you can give in that department
is appreciated.  With all the
Katrina news lately, stories like this seem to get lost.

 

Thanks,

 



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482 Office

260-307-4000 Cell

260-918-4340 VoIP

www.oibw.net

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

  

 













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21,
2005 12:21 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] Pictures and PR
and Donations



 



I wish
'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of the
destruction, but of the work that they are doing.  Like Mac 200' up a
tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things like
that.





 





Second-does
anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'?  Other groups are putting
out the things they have done and getting press.  Our group should be
showing some more press with pictures of people using our installations.





 





Third-I
sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co workers
asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site
and donate.  A few responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when
some have time you can do the same.  I asked if they could donate
$10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got a few $25's out of it.  Not much but
buys some gas or healthier food.  I just donated another $100 myself. 



 





Walter W. Stumpf Jr.
Xanadu Group Inc.
Cognigen Founders' Club member
179 Statesville Quarry Road
Lafayette NJ
 07848-3128 USA
973-702-3899
fax 775-667-1995
WISPA member
http://ld.net/?wstumpf










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[WISPA] OT - Clipboard Synchronizer

[rcomroe]

This is definitely off-topic.  But I've 
visited wisps that operate a rack of windows box's.  If anyone does and is 
interested in a clipboard synchronizer that works between multiple windows 
box's (copy from one machine, paste to another, etc) please contact me 
OFF-LIST.  I'm looking for beta users willing to help (to give free 
copies to).  Again, please hit me OFF-LIST and not disrupt the list for 
such an OT subject.
 
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[WISPA] Pictures and PR and Donations

[WWS2]

I wish 'our team' down South would put up more pictures-not necessarily of 
the destruction, but of the work that they are doing.  Like Mac 200' up a 
tower, Matt on a roof top, people using our phones and PC's, things 
like that.
 
Second-does anyone have a PR person on staff or 'related'?  Other 
groups are putting out the things they have done and getting press.  Our 
group should be showing some more press with pictures of people using our 
installations.
 
Third-I sent out over the weekend 100 letter emails to friends-relatives-co 
workers asking them to go to the www.wispa.org site and donate.  A few 
responded back that they did do it.  Maybe when some have time you can do 
the same.  I asked if they could donate $10-$100-$1000, and I think Mac got 
a few $25's out of it.  Not much but buys some gas or healthier food.  
I just donated another $100 myself. 
 
Walter W. 
Stumpf Jr.Xanadu Group Inc.Cognigen Founders' Club member179 
Statesville Quarry RoadLafayette NJ 07848-3128 USA973-702-3899fax 
775-667-1995WISPA 
memberhttp://ld.net/?wstumpf
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Re: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Hm.

Kris, know anything about this?  Is this something that wispa should stand 
behind?


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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: 
Senate Bill S.1504



Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill 
S.1504


On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the 
Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among 
other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees 
(perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill is 
not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right to 
use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all zoning of 
cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises
and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public 
with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a 
summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are 
available here.
  (See web 
site for full review and links.)
(Draft legislation is at:) 


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[WISPA] Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504

[George]

Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment & Consumer Choice Act: Senate Bill S.1504

On July 27 Senators John Ensign and John McCain introduced S. 1504, the 
Ensign/McCain Broadband Investment and Consumer Choice Act, which among 
other things, abolishes cable franchising; reduces cable franchise fees 
(perhaps substantially); apparently (we say apparently because the bill 
is not entirely clear on these points) grants video providers the right 
to use public rights of way in perpetuity; apparently abolishes all 
zoning of cellular towers; apparently abolishes telephone franchises
and fees; and attempts to prevent governments from providing the public 
with communications service. Senate Bill S.1504 is available here; a 
summary is available here and Sen John Ensign's floor remarks are 
available here.
  (See web 
site for full review and links.)
(Draft legislation is at:) 


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Re: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast

[Linda Pond]

Dear John,

What a magnificent human being you are.  I can't even begin to imagine what 
you went through, and the toll it has taken on your senses.

Please don't suffer alone.  Find someone to talk to - get it out of your 
system before it starts to fester.

Linda Pond
- Original Message - 
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Restoring the Gulf Coast


I just got back last night from the gulf affected areas after helping
crews establish Internet and phone service for use by evacuees and
assistance staff. It looks like a thermo-nuclear device detonated on the
gulf coast. Bay of St. Louis (across from Gulf port) is nothing but a
landfill with bull-dozed paths through the debris to clear roadways. I
cried, everyone cried, it was life altering. On television it is awful
but you can go to the other room when you are watching on television.
When you are there you cannot get away from it. I thought I was going to
have an anxiety attack when I first got to Bay of St. Louis. You cannot
smell or feel the sense of what it is like there unless you are actually
there. I took pictures but wondered why. It was almost a sick feeling to
photograph such devastation.

I came home last night and I still feel a little shell shocked. I am not
right. I am definitely more right in the head than those who lived
through the experience and those who have been there since day one. I
don't know how people who are helping can last as long as they are.
There are people there who have been helping non-stop for 2 weeks. I
cannot imagine it. I spent four days helping and thought I was going to
fall apart mentally and physically. I am not as strong as I thought I
was. At least I did some good there. I am glad I went even though I will
never be completely the same person ever again.
Scriv
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[WISPA] Google WiFi

[Blair Davis]

I wonder if this announcement might have anything to do with the
request for all the hotspot and ap location data that were being
requested on the list a few weeks ago?

http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/20/technology/google_wifi.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

Google plans WiFi service
Pages on the search engine's Web site refer to
upcoming product, but company declines comment.


LONDON (Reuters) - Internet search leader Google is preparing to launch
its own wireless Internet service, Google WiFi, according to several
pages found on the company's Web site on Tuesday.



The Google site refers to a product called "Google Secure Access,"
which is designed to "establish a more secure connection while using
Google WiFi," according to a frequently asked questions page
(http://wifi.google.com/faq.html).



A separate page (http://wifi.google.com/download.html) offers a free
download of Google Secure Access.


Google declined to comment.


The launch of a WiFi service would move Google away from its core
Internet search service and into the competitive world of Internet
service providers and telecommunications giants.


Speculation about a forthcoming Google WiFi service has been rife
since August, following an article in Business 2.0 magazine, but the
company has refused to discussed its plans.


WiFi is an increasingly popular technology that is used to provide
high-speed wireless Internet access in homes, business and public
spaces like airports and coffee shops. Google launched a sponsored WiFi
"hotspot" in San Francisco's Union Square district in April with a
start-up called Feeva.


The FAQ says that the Google Secure Access service is in "beta,"
meaning that the company does not consider it a fully finished product
-- similar to the company's Gmail e-mail service.


Google, which is rapidly expanding beyond its core Internet search
service, introduced an instant messaging and telephony service called
Google Talk in August.

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