Re: [WISPA] NTIA - Gallagher leaving
A read of Harold Feld's comment and opinion on Gallager leaving, may shed some light on his support of the WISP community. http://www.wetmachine.com/item/400 snip With Gallagher's departure, the last high-level true believer in wireless and advocate for spectrum change has left the administration. As I have written elsewhere, Martin does not view spectrum, either licensed or unlicensed, as a particular priority. Neither do either of the Democrats. While supportive of the promise of unlicensed, they have not pushed for new unlicensed spectrum in a high-profile way. /snip Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - Interesting. Is that good or bad? Was he on our side of the fence or theirs? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] COMMERCE OFFICIAL LEAVING BUSH TEAM [SOURCE: New York Times] via Benton Michael D. Gallagher, the top Bush administration official for telecommunications issues, said on Monday that he had decided to step down early next year. Gallagher, the head of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration at the Commerce Department, has played a major role in negotiations between the wireless industry and the Pentagon over steps to free valuable radio spectrum for use by the industry. He has also led the administration's efforts to beat back proposals by some countries for tighter regulation over the Internet. Earlier this year, Mr. Gallagher was a contender to head the Federal Communications Commission, ultimately losing to Kevin J. Martin. Mr. Gallagher said he would take time off, probably beginning in January, to consider his next career move. He said he expected to remain in Washington. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Names New Wireless Legal Advisor Posted on: 12/02/2005 FCC Chairman Kevin Martin said today Fred Campbell will serve as his legal advisor for wireless issues. Campbell most recently was an attorney advisor in the wireline competition bureau. Before joining the commission, Campbell worked as an attorney for the law firm of Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis, where he addressed legal issues associated with the provisioning of domestic and international telecommunications services. Campbell previously practiced commercial litigation with the law firm of Wolfe Snowden and served as an adjunct faculty member at the University of Nebraska College of Law. Prior to that, he clerked for Judge William M. Connolly of the Nebraska Supreme Court. Campbell has served in the U.S. Army. He also earned his B.A. from the University of the State of New York and his J.D. from the University of Nebraska College of Law. http://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/5ch211017.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies
Bev's web stock levels are often wrong. I place my orders with her by phone. The intent of the post was to provide a supplier that I knew and that also carried what John was looking for. The current was not mentioned. Wisp-Router carries several different 48V supplies with different current ratings. I would assume that John would pick the unit he needs to do the job. To anyone who was offended or misled by my providing a link to a supplier who was temporally out of stock, I apologize. Bob Moldashel wrote: Blair Davis wrote: Try http://www.wisp-router.com/index.php?cPath=38osCsid=35487c8a3c68aaca1f13a9fe560a0c26 Blair John Scrivner wrote: Can anyone hook me up with a source for the 48 volt supplies? I need to buy some of those DS3 to Ethernet converters and they require that supply. I have never seen them before and need a source. Also, does anyone have a manual and/or drawings of the PCOM radios we are buying? I need to start reading up on these radios to make sure I know what all I need to get them installed. Please help if you have a source of information on them. If any of you have experience with the PCOMs and DS3 to Ethernet converters I would like to pick your brain on a few things. Many thanks, Scriv Eje has no stock of 48 vdc anything unfortunately. You also need to look at the current draw. john will need a 48 vdc supply to run the radios also. Might as well get something that will do the job right. -B- -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies
RFlinx has 48v POE supplies 60watts. www.rflinx.com Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:37 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies Can anyone hook me up with a source for the 48 volt supplies? I need to buy some of those DS3 to Ethernet converters and they require that supply. I have never seen them before and need a source. Also, does anyone have a manual and/or drawings of the PCOM radios we are buying? I need to start reading up on these radios to make sure I know what all I need to get them installed. Please help if you have a source of information on them. If any of you have experience with the PCOMs and DS3 to Ethernet converters I would like to pick your brain on a few things. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies
ah, strap a couple of 24 volt batteries on with some chargers.. :-) ps: we do that for backup - less expensive than a UPS. We run Redline equipment - relatively high current - for 4 days w/o electricity. works great. be sure to get a charger that resets properly after the A/C kicks out - we learned that lesson on the 5th day of the first outage :-) Kurt Fankhauser wrote: RFlinx has 48v POE supplies 60watts. www.rflinx.com Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:37 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies Can anyone hook me up with a source for the 48 volt supplies? I need to buy some of those DS3 to Ethernet converters and they require that supply. I have never seen them before and need a source. Also, does anyone have a manual and/or drawings of the PCOM radios we are buying? I need to start reading up on these radios to make sure I know what all I need to get them installed. Please help if you have a source of information on them. If any of you have experience with the PCOMs and DS3 to Ethernet converters I would like to pick your brain on a few things. Many thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies
Blair, OKI went back and re-read my post. And now I see why you are a little sharp in your reply. My appologies. It was the way it can be read, not the way it was meant to be said. I was not looking to correct you. I was just trying to point out that the units did not appear to be in stock and that the current draw for the units is slightly under one amp. As such, any old 48 vdc POE won't work. It must be with enough current to support it as I'm sure you know. While John may know enough to look for what's needed, it is the lurker that may just buy them without knowing that i am trying to inform. And as for anyone being offended or misled..the heck with them! :-) Again, my appologies. It was not meant to be that way. Regards, -B- Blair Davis wrote: Bev's web stock levels are often wrong. I place my orders with her by phone. The intent of the post was to provide a supplier that I knew and that also carried what John was looking for. The current was not mentioned. Wisp-Router carries several different 48V supplies with different current ratings. I would assume that John would pick the unit he needs to do the job. To anyone who was offended or misled by my providing a link to a supplier who was temporally out of stock, I apologize. Bob Moldashel wrote: Blair Davis wrote: Try http://www.wisp-router.com/index.php?cPath=38osCsid=35487c8a3c68aaca1f13a9fe560a0c26 Blair John Scrivner wrote: Can anyone hook me up with a source for the 48 volt supplies? I need to buy some of those DS3 to Ethernet converters and they require that supply. I have never seen them before and need a source. Also, does anyone have a manual and/or drawings of the PCOM radios we are buying? I need to start reading up on these radios to make sure I know what all I need to get them installed. Please help if you have a source of information on them. If any of you have experience with the PCOMs and DS3 to Ethernet converters I would like to pick your brain on a few things. Many thanks, Scriv Eje has no stock of 48 vdc anything unfortunately. You also need to look at the current draw. john will need a 48 vdc supply to run the radios also. Might as well get something that will do the job right. -B- -- Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. Broadband Deployment Group 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, New York 11741 USA 800-479-9195 Toll Free US Canada 631-585-5558 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?
I am seeing a future that is very much a mix of fiber, coax, wireless and twisted pair. Somewhat like it is now. I think we will see some ultra-high bandwidth roll-outs over all mediums that dwarf what we see in most situations today. I do see an emerging gravitation toward fiber / wireless as the predominant technologies for broadband deployment. We live in a time when the promise of $500 - 1.25 Gbps radios is not too far off. I am not talking about junk spectrum here. I am talking about licensed 70 to 90 Ghz millimeter-wave technology. These are licenses we can all get easily. I was talking to Jack Rickard not long ago about this technology and its impact going forward. I did not understand the advantages of moving the semiconductor platform for these millimeter-wave radios from SiGe (Silicon Germanium) to CMOS (Complementary Metal Oxide Semiconductor) that I had heard others touting as the next big move in this budding industry. Jack explained it to me as only he can. He said, Shit John, it's like the difference between building chips out of diamonds or rusty nails.. It is an economic advantage obviously when it is put like that. I wish you guys could have been on that call. It was a trip. Anyway, I think there are some places where any one technology platform is the best choice and I think the delivery technologies are all continuing to mature and advance. Prices continue to fall and performance continues to increase in DSLAMs, Fiber Systems, Wireless Radio Technology, DOCSIS, etc. I see no reason to think there is a dead technology in the lot. I simply think that some will prove to be better in some applications than others. I do think that fiber is going to be a clear winner in the numbers game of which technology serves the highest number of bits in and out. That said I do not think people can fathom how much data will be airborne within the next few years. I have two airborne DS3 links on their way to me today. I believe these may last three years in their placement before being edged outward in the network. This is how my network grows. It parallels someone else's post here recently.Very little of my network is ever Dead technology. It simply gets re-allocated to the outermost edges of the network to lower demand areas as needs increase and change. When I outgrow the DS3 radio at my main tower then I am sure there will be $500 1.25 Gbps radios ready to put in their place. It is just the natural progression of the cycle of technology it seems to me. Let's just hope Uncle Sam does not screw things up too much under the new FCC leadership which seem to want to thwart the efforts of a growing and thriving industry. If any of you believe we have a WISP friendly FCC right now then I assure you that the facts do not support it. Do not wring your hands in fear though. As long as we can all work together as a group we will fight the battles for policy and law for this industry. I do not plan to sit idly by and let others put up barriers to opportunities. I plan to help make policy and law work for a balanced and fair framework we can all work within. WISPs are now officially very much on the radar. We have made an impression. Now Goliath is scared. Congratulations WISPs. You are officially important enough to be feared and controversial. In the FCC right now the term WISP is well known and understood from a policy standpoint. The term WISP is being used in policy hearings, legal debates, rulemakings, etc. We are officially a real industry. Now we just have to start handling this industry instead letting others handle it for us. If you are not already involved then it is time for you to pay up, show up or shut up. Pick your path. There is work to do. Merry Christmas, Scriv PS. You would think I would lighten up at Christmas time! Sorry so deep today guys! :-) George wrote: Money wise you may be right, not sure of the entire situation that john is involved with. But the focus today is on fiber. And how the community you serve perceives your company is very important. We talked about fiber in 2001 and today people still ask us when the fiber is going to be deployed. Lately our City has been doing telecommunications studies and fiber is the key word. Everyone who studies the future of broadband and connectivity comes to the conclusion that fiber is the technology that has the most potential in terms of potential to keep up with and surpass any thing that comes down the pike. When everyone was copper a lot of us isps were pioneering wireless, now that wireless is the hot topic, we need to keep our minds open on what is available to deploy and fiber is the other option. In Johns case, which is similar to mine, Charter is rolling out fiber builds. They are leap frogging ahead. Charter and Telco is our competition and we have to consider our future when considering what we deploy today and what our long term investments
Re: [WISPA] 48 volt power supplies
Thanks to all for your feedback in helping me to ramp up my backhaul. I learned some very valuable stuff here from the collective...as usual. I sure do appreciate those few people who pay their WISPA dues and actually maintain this organization so we all have resources like this :-) Scriv Bob Moldashel wrote: Blair, OKI went back and re-read my post. And now I see why you are a little sharp in your reply. My appologies. It was the way it can be read, not the way it was meant to be said. I was not looking to correct you. I was just trying to point out that the units did not appear to be in stock and that the current draw for the units is slightly under one amp. As such, any old 48 vdc POE won't work. It must be with enough current to support it as I'm sure you know. While John may know enough to look for what's needed, it is the lurker that may just buy them without knowing that i am trying to inform. And as for anyone being offended or misled..the heck with them! :-) Again, my appologies. It was not meant to be that way. Regards, -B- Blair Davis wrote: Bev's web stock levels are often wrong. I place my orders with her by phone. The intent of the post was to provide a supplier that I knew and that also carried what John was looking for. The current was not mentioned. Wisp-Router carries several different 48V supplies with different current ratings. I would assume that John would pick the unit he needs to do the job. To anyone who was offended or misled by my providing a link to a supplier who was temporally out of stock, I apologize. Bob Moldashel wrote: Blair Davis wrote: Try http://www.wisp-router.com/index.php?cPath=38osCsid=35487c8a3c68aaca1f13a9fe560a0c26 Blair John Scrivner wrote: Can anyone hook me up with a source for the 48 volt supplies? I need to buy some of those DS3 to Ethernet converters and they require that supply. I have never seen them before and need a source. Also, does anyone have a manual and/or drawings of the PCOM radios we are buying? I need to start reading up on these radios to make sure I know what all I need to get them installed. Please help if you have a source of information on them. If any of you have experience with the PCOMs and DS3 to Ethernet converters I would like to pick your brain on a few things. Many thanks, Scriv Eje has no stock of 48 vdc anything unfortunately. You also need to look at the current draw. john will need a 48 vdc supply to run the radios also. Might as well get something that will do the job right. -B- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?
VIA with StarOS on 5.2/5.3 will get 100Mb. WAR board might do same. - cw John Scrivner wrote: I need some feedback from the collective. I am looking for a backhaul radio link for my main tower. 5.8 Ghz is fully utilized at this location. It is only a 1500 foot shot. I would like at least 50 meg full or 100 meg half duplex. I would like this solution to be under $8K or so. 5.3 Ghz is pretty open here. Does a solution exist? I can lay fiber for about $12K or so. I am considering doing that but I think laying fiber for my main connection when I am a fixed broadband wireless provider sends the wrong message to my potential customers when Charter is going all over town selling fiber connections. I welcome your feedback. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?
Have you actually seen these speeds? I have never seen a Star OS installation do more than about 17 meg aggregate. If you have seen this then by all means please share the details of the actual hardware used and configuration if you do not mind. Thank you, Scriv noc.kl.terranova.net wrote: VIA with StarOS on 5.2/5.3 will get 100Mb. WAR board might do same. - cw John Scrivner wrote: I need some feedback from the collective. I am looking for a backhaul radio link for my main tower. 5.8 Ghz is fully utilized at this location. It is only a 1500 foot shot. I would like at least 50 meg full or 100 meg half duplex. I would like this solution to be under $8K or so. 5.3 Ghz is pretty open here. Does a solution exist? I can lay fiber for about $12K or so. I am considering doing that but I think laying fiber for my main connection when I am a fixed broadband wireless provider sends the wrong message to my potential customers when Charter is going all over town selling fiber connections. I welcome your feedback. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?
I get about 25 meg aggregate through StarOS on WRAP boards and have seen at least double this on a 2 port WAR board running StarVX. Testing was done using 2 Mikrotik routers at each end with random UDP traffic. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: 22 December 2005 18:14 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Have you actually seen these speeds? I have never seen a Star OS installation do more than about 17 meg aggregate. If you have seen this then by all means please share the details of the actual hardware used and configuration if you do not mind. Thank you, Scriv noc.kl.terranova.net wrote: VIA with StarOS on 5.2/5.3 will get 100Mb. WAR board might do same. - cw John Scrivner wrote: I need some feedback from the collective. I am looking for a backhaul radio link for my main tower. 5.8 Ghz is fully utilized at this location. It is only a 1500 foot shot. I would like at least 50 meg full or 100 meg half duplex. I would like this solution to be under $8K or so. 5.3 Ghz is pretty open here. Does a solution exist? I can lay fiber for about $12K or so. I am considering doing that but I think laying fiber for my main connection when I am a fixed broadband wireless provider sends the wrong message to my potential customers when Charter is going all over town selling fiber connections. I welcome your feedback. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 21/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 21/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
