Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul - Where Do I Begin?

2007-01-22 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Marlon,


How reliable do you need it to be?


Considering Jim will be running his whole network off of this backhaul 
link I would imagine 9's would be in order.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

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Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers

2007-01-22 Thread Matt Liotta

RickG wrote:

Dave,

Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their
browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with
speed test website such as speakeasy, etc.
In order to improve speed you need lower RTT and less congestion/packet 
loss on any given route. The best way to achieve that is with a proper 
blend of transit providers and peers. Additionally, having your own 
hosted speedtest helps.


-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread Mac Dearman
That was a heckuva game and a helluva comeback! It was about time for Peyton
to have overcome Brady and the Patriots. 

Now if the Saints had only done as well :-(

Mac Dearman

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Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!

 

 

 

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RE: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread Rick Herrmann
So now they get to lose the Super Bowl!!

Rick Herrmann

Zing Internet

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Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Public safety wants interoperability funds tied to DHS guidelines

2007-01-22 Thread John Scrivner

Dawn,
700 MHz availability is a big deal for us. Can you please take the 
points in this article apart and let us know what you know about what is 
going on here? If funds are available which could help us gain licensed 
spectrum then knowing the inside scoop on this process is a big deal and 
could yield us spectrum. Your thoughts are appreciated. I have to admit 
I am out of the loop on the status of 700 MHz currently. There have been 
so many changes in direction and policy regarding this band that I do 
not know where we stand with access to this spectrum. I heard at the WCA 
show last week that there will be an auction of some of that band in 
about 6 months. That is all I know currently.


On a side note, unless you own 2.3 or 2.5 GHz spectrum there was little 
for you to see at the WCA show this time around. I was there to look for 
direction in the AWS spectrum I own now. There was very little talk of 
AWS at this show.

Scriv



Dawn DiPietro wrote:


All,

As quoted from the article;

Under a law passed in December, the Department of Commerce is 
required to award $1 billion in interoperability grants by Sept. 30.
While public-safety officials have applauded the decision by Congress 
to make the $1 billion in funding available immediately�instead
of waiting for the completion of the 700 MHz auction, which will 
provide the revenue source for the money�they have expressed

concern about the disbursement process.

I found this very interesting and may shed some light on what the 
motive behind the 700MHz space.


Full article here;
http://mrtmag.com/news/publicsafety/interoperability-dhs-guidelines-011706/ 




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Dawn DiPietro


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Re: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Harnish wrote:
 Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!

I'll never understand how this works. We have a team from Indy and a
team from Chicago...

... playing in Florida.

I very much prefer the Major League Baseball (and NBA, and NHL, and
basically every major sport that isn't American football) way of doing
things, where you play the game in one of the two teams' stadiums. Since
the Super Bowl is a single game, not a series, there'd be some
contention over which stadium to play in, but at least it'd make more sense.

David Smith
MVN.net
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RE: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread Jeff Broadwick
That's a glorified high school stadium...bring them to ND...they can put
80,000 in there.   

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I thought West Lafayette (Purdue) would be a good place for the game, based
on the teams.  Stadium may be a little small, but it is in the right place.

David E. Smith wrote:
 Rick Harnish wrote:
   
 Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!
 

 I'll never understand how this works. We have a team from Indy and a 
 team from Chicago...

 ... playing in Florida.

 I very much prefer the Major League Baseball (and NBA, and NHL, and 
 basically every major sport that isn't American football) way of doing 
 things, where you play the game in one of the two teams' stadiums. 
 Since the Super Bowl is a single game, not a series, there'd be some 
 contention over which stadium to play in, but at least it'd make more
sense.

 David Smith
 MVN.net
   

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RE: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread Mac Dearman
We all agree wholeheartedly! The Saints absolutely had the best season in
its franchise history and went way yonder farther thank any of us
Louisianans ever had a dream of.

We are all dreaming of next year already :-) 


Mac 




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Hey, turn that to a :-) 

If someone told you that the Saints would make it to within one game of the
Super Bowl, at the beginning of the season...what would your reaction have
been?!?!

I'm a Detroit Tiger fan...that was how I handled them losing the Series.  It
wasn't pretty, but they had one heck of a year...way better than they had
any right to.

Jeff

 

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That was a heckuva game and a helluva comeback! It was about time for Peyton
to have overcome Brady and the Patriots. 

Now if the Saints had only done as well :-(

Mac Dearman

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Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!

 

 

 

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[WISPA] GigaBeam

2007-01-22 Thread Brett Meier
Has anyone worked with GigaBeam's products? 

http://www.gigabeam.com http://www.gigabeam.com/ 

 

They're cost prohibitive (approx $45,000) for most backhauls/ISP links,
but may be useful for private projects. They pass some crazy bandwidth
either way.

 

I'm thinking of presenting them to some of my clients as links to
off-site data storage.

Best regards,
Brett M. Meier - Network Systems Engineer
MicroStream Communications 
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Re: [WISPA] GigaBeam

2007-01-22 Thread Matt Liotta

Brett Meier wrote:
Has anyone worked with GigaBeam's products? 

http://www.gigabeam.com http://www.gigabeam.com/ 

  

We are more happy with Bridgewave's offering.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] Pardon the SPAM but..............

2007-01-22 Thread George Rogato
I can't believe the Pat's blew that one after manhandling the Colts 
early on.




Rick Harnish wrote:

Go Colts!  Wow what a game.  Finally Superbowl Bound!

 

 

 


Rick Harnish

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260-827-2482

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Re: [WISPA] Horizontal 5.8

2007-01-22 Thread Tom DeReggi

Depends what Polarity you are desiring.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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any suggestions on horizontal 5.8 120 degree or 90 degree sector antennas?

Thanks,

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RE: [WISPA] OT: eBay opinions? Best eBay store for used wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Patrick Leary
Hello Jack, 

I know you guys sell on eBay (including a recently posted lot of old
SU-Rs), but what I'm looking for are free opinions on the questions I
posted!

Patrick

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Patrick what are you looing for cables , connectors , radios??? 


Jack Weinberg, President
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Hi folks,

This post is more for personal interest than professional. I'm usually
an
excellent Google searcher, but pulling up info about eBay in terms of
reputable eBay resellers, top eBay stores, etc. is proving difficult.
So, I thought I'd go straight to you since I know most of you have at
some
point (or frequently) sell or purchase off eBay.

Any opinions on good eBay resellers of wireless gear? Any horror stories
about companies to stay away from?

Patrick




 
 



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[WISPA] good snmp client?

2007-01-22 Thread steve
Hi,
I'm wondering what people are using for snmp monitoring of the network. 
I've got about a dozen devices so far, and more to come with expansion
and am looking for a nice snmp poller that would preferably run on linux
(debian) and give me nice looking reports with either web interface or
client software.
Thanks!
Steve



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RE: [WISPA] OT: eBay opinions? Best eBay store for used wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread Jack Weinberg
My question to you is are you looking for references on stores that sell
cables, antennas, pigtails?? 


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Hello Jack, 

I know you guys sell on eBay (including a recently posted lot of old SU-Rs),
but what I'm looking for are free opinions on the questions I posted!

Patrick

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Patrick what are you looing for cables , connectors , radios??? 


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570-823-9804
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570-823-9867 fax
 
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Hi folks,

This post is more for personal interest than professional. I'm usually an
excellent Google searcher, but pulling up info about eBay in terms of
reputable eBay resellers, top eBay stores, etc. is proving difficult.
So, I thought I'd go straight to you since I know most of you have at some
point (or frequently) sell or purchase off eBay.

Any opinions on good eBay resellers of wireless gear? Any horror stories
about companies to stay away from?

Patrick




 
 



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RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread paul hendry
I have been using the E70 for a while and it is great. It has all the 
features of the E61 (sip, wifi, etc) but it also has a camera and flips 
open to reveal a full qwerty keyboard which I found really quick to get 
use to. Add an SSH client and I can suddenly manage almost every aspect 
of my network with only my mobile. Convergence is a wonderful thing ;)

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

I'm trying the Nokia E61 (same as Cingular's E62 but without being 
crippled
by Cingular turning off the Wi-Fi and 3G support).  It's very good, too.
You can get them on ebay unlocked and just put your Cingular SIM into 
it.
It's thinner than the Ipaq but no camera.  It seems to go forever on a
single charge and doesn't cause pain when I sit down with it in my 
pocket.

It has a SIP phone client and I use it at any Wi-Fi to access my home
Asterisk VoIP server...free.  I can see why Cingular wanted to cripple 
this
feature since, in Europe; I no longer pay $1.35 a minute but $0 a 
minute.

I can put 4 or 5 full length DVDs in it's accessory memory to watch 
while
waiting in airports.  I can also keep all our PDF and WORD and 
POWERPOINT
collateral in it and have it ready for display or copying to somebody's 
PC.

It doesn't have internal GPS so I use a $60 lipstick-sized Bluetooth GPS 

http://www.holux.com/product/search.htm?filename=gpsreceiver_bluetooth_index
.htmtarget=gpsreceiver0level=grandson

accessory that I place on my dash of the car to get solid satellite lock
while I have he display near my eyes.  This tiny GPS thingymajig goes 8
hours on a charge but has a car charger and USB (from laptop) charger.  
If
you use it with your laptop you can link to Microsoft Streets and Trips.
You can get a pretty good mapping application for most phones with 
internal
or external GPS for free:
http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php  It has 
mapping
and talking directions, too.  It covers a lot of the world...amazing.

...and, this phone doesn't crash all the time like my Palm used to.

. . . j o n a t h a n

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Nice OT thread guys; I am learning and hope others chime in.

Patrick Leary

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Matt,

It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new 
test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP iPaq 
6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have been 
playing with it on an off for the last couple of days.

The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with WiFi

and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already built-in 
to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS coordinates on the 
picture when you take it (if you enable that option). Also, many 
commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work on this phone with the 
GPS. With a simple car mount and car adapter, you have a full-fledged 
GPS device built into your phone. There are also programs that will 
connect to WiFi and update GPS coordinates to a website... so you could 
have real-time locations for your installers with no monthly fee. ;)

It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other Windows 
phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as the Palm OS. 
The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS messaging. It's 
easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat dialog going with 
each person you have talked to. I send and receive over 100 messages per

day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick, easy, and can be done with one hand.

If there was just a simple program that would function the same, the 
iPaq could be a great phone for me.

I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This is a

pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth, running 
Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It just doesn't 
have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for that type of a
device.

Travis
Microserv

Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 It was finally time to replace my Nokia 6800 with 600 hours and a 
 broken screen from being dropped too many times, so I decided to get a

 Nokia E70 phone.

 It has been a little bit of a challenge, but it is pretty close to 
 cell phone nirvana.  It has been able to do I have wanted to 
 accomplish with a PDA or cell phone combined.

 The first main issue was getting the phone contacts/calendar/notes 
 synchronized with my PC.  My previous phone was extremely flaky when 
 used with the Nokia PC Suite software, and 

RE: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure

2007-01-22 Thread Gino Villarini
Huh ? that's weird  how much ?

Gino A. Villarini
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To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure

On closer inspection, the Teletronics aren't dual-pol and hence don't 
meet the pre-requisit. Winncom have been great and the integrated 
version of the MTi 23db dual-pol is actually cheaper than the standard 
version.

-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 January 2007 17:38
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure

The Teletronics also are in seperate models.  The reason is you don't 
want 
to have bolt holes in an antena if they are not covered by a case.
The same enclosures though will fit all the model and sizes of panel 
antennas.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure


I know there are 2 variants (see original post). Are the Teletronic
enclosures for specific antennas or have they devised a way to integrate
them with any antenna?

-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 January 2007 23:49
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure

Take note that the MTI antenna models come in two format, with screw
holes
for enclosure, and without screw holes for enclosure.

Side note,  I wanted to mention that Teletroncs has EXCELLENT pricing
and
availabilty of their Model of antenna enclosure, very similar to MTI's.
Bascially they look identical, just that Teletronics includes it with a
different mount that only supports a 2 pole.  The Teletronics version
is
very affordable.  They also carry most of the MTI antennas, although the

non-common ones they need to special order.

Winncomm, has always been a good distributor, but Teletronics is also a
great source for MTI products and their lower cost version that are near

identical.  Our rep is, Win.

Now you were specifically asking for the Dual POl, and I'm not sure that

they stock the Dual Pol, but I know they can order it for you, if they
don't
stock it.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: paul hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure


Hi Rick,

Do you know if Winncom sell the dual-pols that are compatible with the
MTI enclosure? I can see they sell the enclosure and the standalone
dual-pols but can't see any reference to it on there site and
unfortunately there aren't open on Saturdays to ask :(

Many thanks,

Paul.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Harnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 January 2007 14:50
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] MTI Dual-Pol with Integrated Enclosure

Paul,



I have bought 26 db dual pol antennas from Winncom.  www.winncom.com  We
are
about to start testing them but have not deployed any yet.  I have
deployed
23 and 26 db single pol and I really like them.



Respectfully,





Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA



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RE: [WISPA] good snmp client?

2007-01-22 Thread Mac Dearman
Nagios!


Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of steve
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:51 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] good snmp client?

Hi,
I'm wondering what people are using for snmp monitoring of the network. 
I've got about a dozen devices so far, and more to come with expansion
and am looking for a nice snmp poller that would preferably run on linux
(debian) and give me nice looking reports with either web interface or
client software.
Thanks!
Steve



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[WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell, great, 
if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread Rick Smith
As if I had to say it...
DON'T EVER BUY A HARNESS USED.

I bought mine here:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/bodyharness2.htm
(Eagle Tower LE - the first one..)

Should get one'a these:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/wireropegrabs.html

One'a these:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/shocklanyards.htm

A few a these:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/miscequipment.htm

Get a saddle positioner:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/miscequipment3.htm
(Tower positioning Kit)

Need a Bolt / tool bag:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/carrybags2.html

and don't let OSHA catch you without:
http://www.glenmartin.com/industrial/headprotection.html

About $750 worth of hardware - but how much is your life worth ?


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Subject: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread Mac Dearman
Forbes,

 You will need more than a harness if you don't have any climbing gear
already. If you are not an experienced climber - - deal with someone who can
lead you in what you do need for the type/style towers you will be climbing.
A good start would be:

Tennessee Equipment supply Co.
Cliff Kirk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Knoxville, Tn
800.327.4036


Mac Dearman

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Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread chris cooper
Tessco has them.

Although- I went to my local outdoor store/pawn shop last week. They had
a whole rack full of climbing harnesses that had been pawned.  Not quite
sure how to read that one.

chris

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Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread Mac Dearman
Chris,

Read those harnesses at the pawn shop like this:

D A N G E R!!  D A N G E R!! 

A brand spanking new TOWER harness w/6 D rings costs about $200.00 - - why
fool with a used one that may have lain in the back of a pick up for weeks,
rain, sleet, snow, stepped  on, bunched up, dry rot, molded,,etc? 

Life is short! They have the printing presses printing more money everyday,
but we only have one life to live.


Mac Dearman

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

Tessco has them.

Although- I went to my local outdoor store/pawn shop last week. They had
a whole rack full of climbing harnesses that had been pawned.  Not quite
sure how to read that one.

chris

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Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread chris cooper
Didn't say I bought one, just thought it made an interesting statement.
They did have a real sweet Martin guitar though.

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Chris,

Read those harnesses at the pawn shop like this:

D A N G E R!!  D A N G E R!! 

A brand spanking new TOWER harness w/6 D rings costs about $200.00 - -
why
fool with a used one that may have lain in the back of a pick up for
weeks,
rain, sleet, snow, stepped  on, bunched up, dry rot, molded,,etc? 

Life is short! They have the printing presses printing more money
everyday,
but we only have one life to live.


Mac Dearman

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Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:55 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

Tessco has them.

Although- I went to my local outdoor store/pawn shop last week. They had
a whole rack full of climbing harnesses that had been pawned.  Not quite
sure how to read that one.

chris

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Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:45 PM
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Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

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Re: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread George Rogato
I think the one we bought a year ago is an Elk River harness. It has a 
seat, which is just a bar that goes under your behind. It's very 
comfortable.


Think it was more than 200, more like 300.
But you will also need a few different lanyards and such.

Harness is useless without the lanyards, safety wise.

George

Mac Dearman wrote:

Forbes,

 You will need more than a harness if you don't have any climbing gear
already. If you are not an experienced climber - - deal with someone who can
lead you in what you do need for the type/style towers you will be climbing.
A good start would be:

Tennessee Equipment supply Co.
Cliff Kirk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Knoxville, Tn
800.327.4036


Mac Dearman

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Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:45 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 




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Re: [WISPA] GigaBeam

2007-01-22 Thread Matt Liotta

Marty Dougherty wrote:

Can you tell us more about your bridgewave links? How have they
performed?
  

We haven't had a single problem with them. They perform as advertised.

-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] good snmp client?

2007-01-22 Thread Frank
MRTG for trending/graphing:
http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/



Frank Keeney
Pasadena Networks, LLC
Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
http://www.wlanparts.com  

 -Original Message-
 From: steve
 
 Hi,
 I'm wondering what people are using for snmp monitoring of 
 the network. 
 I've got about a dozen devices so far, and more to come with expansion
 and am looking for a nice snmp poller that would preferably 
 run on linux
 (debian) and give me nice looking reports with either web interface or
 client software.
 Thanks!
 Steve
 
 

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[WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread Rick Smith
Anyone have a way to convert mass addresses into lat / long numbers ?

I have a spreadsheet of locations for a customer that I'd like to map in
Radio Mobile, and obviously need to do it via Lat/Long.

R

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Re: [WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread Ryan Langseth
There are a bunch of ways to do this, the two easiest I would be:

geocoder.us

google maps and some programming

Ryan
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 18:55 -0500, Rick Smith wrote:
 Anyone have a way to convert mass addresses into lat / long numbers ?
 
 I have a spreadsheet of locations for a customer that I'd like to map in
 Radio Mobile, and obviously need to do it via Lat/Long.
 
 R
 
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RE: [WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread Brian Webster
Rick,
Send me the file.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
Cooperstown, NY 13326
(607) 643-4055 Office Please note new number
(607) 435-3988 Mobile
(208) 692-1898 Fax
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com 


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Subject: [WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?


Anyone have a way to convert mass addresses into lat / long numbers ?

I have a spreadsheet of locations for a customer that I'd like to map in
Radio Mobile, and obviously need to do it via Lat/Long.

R

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RE: [WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread Frank
If you have Microsoft MapPoint you can convert this way.

Open/Import your Excel address spreadsheet inside MapPoint.

However, I seem to remember having an issue of getting the lat/long back
out. I believe that there was some freeware utility to extract the MapPoint
data back out of MapPoint. 


Thank you

Frank Keeney
Pasadena Networks, LLC
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http://www.wlanparts.com 



 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Smith
 
 Anyone have a way to convert mass addresses into lat / long numbers ?
 
 I have a spreadsheet of locations for a customer that I'd 
 like to map in
 Radio Mobile, and obviously need to do it via Lat/Long.

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Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread Steve Stroh


Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770.  
I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// 
www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me  
it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux  
hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for  
portable Internet-connected devices.


One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth  
GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a  
restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more  
than 20' away.



Thanks,

Steve


On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22  10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:


Matt,

It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new  
test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP  
iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have  
been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days.


The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with  
WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already  
built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS  
coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that  
option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work  
on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car  
adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone.  
There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS  
coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations  
for your installers with no monthly fee. ;)


It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other  
Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as  
the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS  
messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat  
dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and  
receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick,  
easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple  
program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great  
phone for me.


I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This  
is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth,  
running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It  
just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for  
that type of a device.


Travis
Microserv



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Re: [WISPA] Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread George Rogato
Very nice, I've been looking for this. Is there any that you can do 
batches of addresses?



Ryan Langseth wrote:

There are a bunch of ways to do this, the two easiest I would be:

geocoder.us

google maps and some programming

Ryan
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 18:55 -0500, Rick Smith wrote:


Anyone have a way to convert mass addresses into lat / long numbers ?

I have a spreadsheet of locations for a customer that I'd like to map in
Radio Mobile, and obviously need to do it via Lat/Long.

R



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RE: [WISPA] good snmp client?

2007-01-22 Thread W.D.McKinney
- Original Message -
From: Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
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Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] good snmp client?


 MRTG for trending/graphing:
 http://oss.oetiker.ch/mrtg/
 
 


Hi Frank,

For anyone that used MRTG in the past, I highly recommend RRDtool instead.
See http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/

We use this and Cacti and it's more up-to-date than MRTG. Runs well on linux.

-Dee 






 
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 Antennas, Cables and Equipment:
 http://www.wlanparts.com  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: steve
  
  Hi,
  I'm wondering what people are using for snmp monitoring of 
  the network. 
  I've got about a dozen devices so far, and more to come with expansion
  and am looking for a nice snmp poller that would preferably 
  run on linux
  (debian) and give me nice looking reports with either web interface or
  client software.
  Thanks!
  Steve
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Dual-WAN routers

2007-01-22 Thread RickG

Thanks Matt! Yes, the first thing I did was set up my own speed test
site on net.

On 1/22/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RickG wrote:
 Dave,

 Thanks for the explanation. Really, my clients want to improve their
 browsing speed. Of course, like most people, they associate speed with
 speed test website such as speakeasy, etc.
In order to improve speed you need lower RTT and less congestion/packet
loss on any given route. The best way to achieve that is with a proper
blend of transit providers and peers. Additionally, having your own
hosted speedtest helps.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread RickG

I took someones suggestion last year and bought the Elk River with the
seat too and LOVE it!

*** I AGREE WITH ALL HERE: SAFETY EQUIPMENT IS PERSONAL - DONT SHARE 
DONT BUY USED!!!

On 1/22/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think the one we bought a year ago is an Elk River harness. It has a
seat, which is just a bar that goes under your behind. It's very
comfortable.

Think it was more than 200, more like 300.
But you will also need a few different lanyards and such.

Harness is useless without the lanyards, safety wise.

George

Mac Dearman wrote:
 Forbes,

  You will need more than a harness if you don't have any climbing gear
 already. If you are not an experienced climber - - deal with someone who can
 lead you in what you do need for the type/style towers you will be climbing.
 A good start would be:

 Tennessee Equipment supply Co.
 Cliff Kirk
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Knoxville, Tn
 800.327.4036


 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
 Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

 Hello Fellow WISP's

 I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
 great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

 Thanks,
 Forbes Mercy
 President - Washington Broadband, Inc.



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Re: [WISPA] OT: eBay opinions? Best eBay store for used wireless?

2007-01-22 Thread RickG

I've built out my WISP using eBay! I've bought some things new but
cant pass up the deals. Only had one problem and the seller took care
of it.
-RickG

On 1/22/07, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi folks,

This post is more for personal interest than professional. I'm usually
an excellent Google searcher, but pulling up info about eBay in terms of
reputable eBay resellers, top eBay stores, etc. is proving difficult.
So, I thought I'd go straight to you since I know most of you have at
some point (or frequently) sell or purchase off eBay.

Any opinions on good eBay resellers of wireless gear? Any horror stories
about companies to stay away from?

Patrick







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[WISPA] RE: Addresses - Lat long?

2007-01-22 Thread Frank
A number of utilities will allow converting of GoogleEarth .kml files into
text files, csv and other GPS file formats.

A few:
GPS TrackMaker:
http://www.gpstm.com

G7toWin:
http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/

GPSBabel:
http://www.gpsbabel.org

The above links from my blog entry:
http://snipurl.com/tundra




Thank you

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http://www.wlanparts.com 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Petermann
 
 Google Earth can import the addresses, but I haven't figured out a  
 way to get the lat / long back out. Other than to copy them from the  
 individual address locations.

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Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread Rich Comroe
Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few 
months.  Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be 
dozens.  I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 
tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full 
keyboard, huge screen.  Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows 
mobile 5 development environment.  But I was disappointed at how stripped down 
the windows mobile version of MFC was.

If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier.  The carriers 
have stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your 
phone as a wifi access point for nearby laptops.  I've got the original fully 
capable OS and it's amazing what you can do.  If you see a pop-up that says a 
newer version of OS is available, click here ... DON'T!!!  It's a neutered 
version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up 
networking components to limit your abilities.

You mention Linux as the preferred platform.  My old Moto buddies tell me Moto 
offered a Linux based phone platform for 2 whole years and NOBODY stepped up 
for developing applications ... so Moto abandonned it switching to Windows to 
launch the Q phone.  I think it casts doubt whether the market really wanted a 
Linux platform phone.  I mean, when you offer a supported Linux product and 
nobody gives a hoot ... what would you conclude?

Rich
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Stroh 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...



  Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770.  
  I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// 
  www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me  
  it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux  
  hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for  
  portable Internet-connected devices.

  One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth  
  GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a  
  restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more  
  than 20' away.


  Thanks,

  Steve


  On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22  10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

   Matt,
  
   It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new  
   test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP  
   iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have  
   been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days.
  
   The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with  
   WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already  
   built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS  
   coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that  
   option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work  
   on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car  
   adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone.  
   There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS  
   coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations  
   for your installers with no monthly fee. ;)
  
   It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other  
   Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as  
   the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS  
   messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat  
   dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and  
   receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick,  
   easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple  
   program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great  
   phone for me.
  
   I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This  
   is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth,  
   running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It  
   just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for  
   that type of a device.
  
   Travis
   Microserv


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Re: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

2007-01-22 Thread Pete Davis
OSHA (or some big insurance co maybe) recently required that all 
harnesses on oil rigs were to be replaced with fireproof ones, at least 
for welders.
The yellow nylon ones that are popular with WISPs, etc all showed up on 
the used market in big quantity. Many of them with minimal wear or 
apparent damage. My friend who worked on a offshore rig, who climbs for 
me sometimes said they threw out about 100 of them, many still new in 
the package. Since they get on/off the rig via chopper, and the personal 
bags weight is very limited, he couldn't easily bring any home, and I 
suspect that they ended up like most of the refuse on the rig... at the 
bottom of the Gulf.


Not suggesting that anyone buy a used harness, but just trying to put 
some possible explanation out there as to why they are there.


pd

chris cooper wrote:


Tessco has them.

Although- I went to my local outdoor store/pawn shop last week. They had
a whole rack full of climbing harnesses that had been pawned.  Not quite
sure how to read that one.

chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Climbing Harness

Hello Fellow WISP's

I need to purchase a tower climbing harness.  If you have one to sell,
great, if you know of a company that sells them that would be great too.

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc. 

 



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Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread Travis Johnson

Yes, that looks like a great phone... even running Windows... ;)

Has anyone seen or come across a better SMS program for Windows 
Mobile? The SMS client on the Palm 650 is the best I have seen... it 
puts each incoming and outgoing message in a chat format for each 
person... so you have history for each person, and can immediately click 
on their conversation and send a message. It makes messaging very quick 
and easy... two button presses (one to get into SMS, one to select the 
person) and you can start typing the message... but I can't find 
anything for Windows Mobile that will do even close to the same.


Travis
Microserv

Rich Comroe wrote:

Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in the last few 
months.  Just 12 months ago there were only 3 ... and now there's got'ta be 
dozens.  I love my PPC6700 so much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 
tri-mode, bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, slide-out full 
keyboard, huge screen.  Got Microsoft VC++ enterprise ... it comes with windows 
mobile 5 development environment.  But I was disappointed at how stripped down 
the windows mobile version of MFC was.

If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be happier.  The carriers have 
stripped key networking components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a wifi access 
point for nearby laptops.  I've got the original fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do. 
 If you see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, click here ... 
DON'T!!!  It's a neutered version from your carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific 
dial-up networking components to limit your abilities.

You mention Linux as the preferred platform.  My old Moto buddies tell me Moto 
offered a Linux based phone platform for 2 whole years and NOBODY stepped up 
for developing applications ... so Moto abandonned it switching to Windows to 
launch the Q phone.  I think it casts doubt whether the market really wanted a 
Linux platform phone.  I mean, when you offer a supported Linux product and 
nobody gives a hoot ... what would you conclude?

Rich
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Stroh 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:10 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...



  Apparently Nokia is now out with the N800, the successor to the 770.  
  I don't have techno-lust details yet - look for yourself at http:// 
  www.nseries.com/products/n800/#l=products,n800, but friends tell me  
  it fixes the weaknesses of the 770, and is the preferred Linux  
  hacking platform (cool open source stuff coming out for it) for  
  portable Internet-connected devices.


  One of the funnier... cooler... things I've seen of late is Bluetooth  
  GPS devices. One I saw REALLY impressed me - it was deep inside a  
  restaurant, but was still able to get a fix from the windows more  
  than 20' away.



  Thanks,

  Steve


  On Jan 22, 2007, at Jan 22  10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

   Matt,
  
   It's funny you posted this message today I just picked up a new  
   test phone I am trying to replace my Treo 650. I grabbed an HP  
   iPaq 6945 from Cingular for $189 (with two year contract) and have  
   been playing with it on an off for the last couple of days.

  
   The biggest advantage to this phone is the built-in GPS, along with  
   WiFi and Bluetooth. There are some neat functions that are already  
   built-in to the main OS... such as the camera showing GPS  
   coordinates on the picture when you take it (if you enable that  
   option). Also, many commercial map programs (TomTom 6, etc.) work  
   on this phone with the GPS. With a simple car mount and car  
   adapter, you have a full-fledged GPS device built into your phone.  
   There are also programs that will connect to WiFi and update GPS  
   coordinates to a website... so you could have real-time locations  
   for your installers with no monthly fee. ;)

  
   It's running Windows Mobile 5, which is better than any other  
   Windows phone OS I have used, but still not as easy to navigate as  
   the Palm OS. The biggest feature on the Treo 650 for me is the SMS  
   messaging. It's easy to access (single button) and it keeps a chat  
   dialog going with each person you have talked to. I send and  
   receive over 100 messages per day, sometimes 200-300. It's quick,  
   easy, and can be done with one hand. If there was just a simple  
   program that would function the same, the iPaq could be a great  
   phone for me.

  
   I should also mention I purchased a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. This  
   is a pretty cool device as well built in WiFi and Bluetooth,  
   running Linux with a nice GUI. Nice wide, bright screen too. It  
   just doesn't have a phone or GPS, just WiFi. Still pretty cool for  
   that type of a device.

  
   Travis
   Microserv


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RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread Frank
I have the T-Mobile version of this phone called the MDA. AFAIK Sprint and
T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone. I belive one or two of
the other carriers do strip some features. 

A little writeup on all the software that I use on my MDA, GPS (Franson
GPSgate highly recommended for use with GPS), Mapping etc:
http://snurl.com/ultimatePDA 

I've used this phone in Europe and the mobile data worked perfectly for the
PDA and Dial Up Networking for my laptop (with no roaming data surcharge). 

Frank


 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Comroe
 
 Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in 
 the last few months.  Just 12 months ago there were only 3 
 ... and now there's got'ta be dozens.  I love my PPC6700 so 
 much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, 
 bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, 
 slide-out full keyboard, huge screen.  Got Microsoft VC++ 
 enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development 
 environment.  But I was disappointed at how stripped down the 
 windows mobile version of MFC was.
 
 If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be 
 happier.  The carriers have stripped key networking 
 components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a 
 wifi access point for nearby laptops.  I've got the original 
 fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do.  If you 
 see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, 
 click here ... DON'T!!!  It's a neutered version from your 
 carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up 
 networking components to limit your abilities.

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Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I finallyunderstand it

2007-01-22 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Tom,

I just read this now- but I would say that you likely didn't deploy a
packetwave with the CBR qos enabled. Aperto works like crap if you don't
Set up service flows on a bsr.




On 1/9/07 9:41 PM, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeff,
 
 Not to be confrontational but.
 
 400 calls per sector
 
 Hogwash, not a chance in heXX.
 
 I do agree that Aperto was one of the first products in the market place to
 offer full feature sets in one package, with strengths on its QOS and
 Bandwidth management, and NLOS ability.  A lot of smart innovated things on
 their radios, much earlier than other vendors.
 
 But its down fall was limiting itself to only 6 Mhz channels, and mandatory
 pre-defined split of bandwidth allocated for each direction, limiting its
 possible bandwdith to approximately 1/6 what the VL could deliver REAL
 WORLD.  Aperto limited themselves to believe there wouldn't be fast enough
 backhauls to justify having faster sectors, which was wrong. They also
 didn't consider noise as a key factor, when doing their math on what speed
 they could get with 6Mhz.  Then throw in their lack of having remote live
 testing tools, so half the time it was hard to even know what performance
 was even being acheived, without a truck roll and taking the client down to
 test.
 
 I got better VOIP performance out of our Trango's than I did Aperto, which
 is why we pulled our Aperto out of DC.
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] churn, double play and why WLP is key - I
 finallyunderstand it
 
 
 
 I believe it can now be said without reservation, that if you are using
 unlicensed and wanting to implement a double play of VoIP + data, the
 ONLY product out there that can do it in scale and with toll quality is
 BreezeACCESS VL.
 
 
 Bzzz.. Wrong.
 
 Aperto supports toll quality voice of about 400 calls per sector, on 1/3
 of
 the channel width that vl requires.
 
 Other than aperto though, I would agree with most of your sentiments.
 
 -
 
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Re: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...

2007-01-22 Thread Rich Comroe
AFAIK Sprint and
T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone.

Oh yeah?  Both my PPC6700s are on Sprint.  Our main SW developer uses the 2nd 
one ... he has a habit of regularly getting latest updates on all devices.  
Sprint's support site listed a new OS for download (it wasn't from a microsoft 
site -- it was from Sprint).  The PPC6700 with the Sprint downloaded OS 
Update has key elements of the dial-up networking removed.  I didn't update 
mine, and glad I didn't.  I can browse the web from my laptop over bluetooth 
thru the phone.  On the phone with the updated OS we can't do this anymore.  
It's natural that the carrier would try to remove some of the OS flexibility, 
as they want to sell a higher cost subscription for pc tethered operation.  
From their perspective it was a problem needing to be solved that Microsoft 
windows mobile 5 would permit any phone with a pc wireless interface to do this.

Rich
  - Original Message - 
  From: Frank 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:13 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] SmartPhone Happiness...


  I have the T-Mobile version of this phone called the MDA. AFAIK Sprint and
  T-Mobile do not strip any features from the phone. I belive one or two of
  the other carriers do strip some features. 

  A little writeup on all the software that I use on my MDA, GPS (Franson
  GPSgate highly recommended for use with GPS), Mapping etc:
  http://snurl.com/ultimatePDA 

  I've used this phone in Europe and the mobile data worked perfectly for the
  PDA and Dial Up Networking for my laptop (with no roaming data surcharge). 

  Frank


   -Original Message-
   From: Rich Comroe
   
   Absolutely amazing how many windows phones have come out in 
   the last few months.  Just 12 months ago there were only 3 
   ... and now there's got'ta be dozens.  I love my PPC6700 so 
   much I bought a 2nd one ... EVDO / RTT1X / IS95 tri-mode, 
   bluetooth, wifi, camera, added a couple GB on mini-SD, 
   slide-out full keyboard, huge screen.  Got Microsoft VC++ 
   enterprise ... it comes with windows mobile 5 development 
   environment.  But I was disappointed at how stripped down the 
   windows mobile version of MFC was.
   
   If you can get one without the neutered OS you'll be 
   happier.  The carriers have stripped key networking 
   components of the OS to keep you from using your phone as a 
   wifi access point for nearby laptops.  I've got the original 
   fully capable OS and it's amazing what you can do.  If you 
   see a pop-up that says a newer version of OS is available, 
   click here ... DON'T!!!  It's a neutered version from your 
   carrier (not from Microsoft) which removes specific dial-up 
   networking components to limit your abilities.

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