RE: [WISPA] WPA2 Radius Auth on Linux with FreeRadius

2007-01-31 Thread Mark McElvy
Might contact Jeremy Davis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], he di a good job for
me.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:01 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] WPA2 Radius Auth on Linux with FreeRadius

I have a consulting request. I need a small embedded Linux distro 
created with FreeRadius built in. It needs to be able to handle WPA2 
Radius requests from access points and authenticate based on username 
password credentials only. I have made this work in Windows XP running 
FreeRadius but I want it to work in Linux. I have experimented with a 
free version of this that I found online and that did not work.

The reason why this will not work normally on the Linux distro I was 
using has something to do with issues involving disagreements over 
licensing. I think it had to do with the particular Linux distro I was 
using did not like the OpenSSL license regarding certificates. I could 
be wrong as it has been some time but I think that is right. The Linux 
distro I was using was Debian. All I know for sure is that the Windows 
version of FreeRadius has the basic certificate infrastructure in place 
to allow WPA2 authentication for access points and the Linux version 
does not.

I need someone to find a way to make this work in Linux because I cannot

and I do not want to buy a Windows XP installation for each of these I 
build in the future. Especially since this requires bigger hardware, 
hard drive, etc. Not to mention added cost for each installation. I want

to load it on a flash module if possible. No GUI needed. Web admin would

be nice but not needed. SSH interface for management is a minimum 
requirement.

Basically the way this needs to be setup is that each server will need a

certificate installed. The APs and the clients will not need a 
certificate. The APs will have the shared secret for the radius server. 
The radius server will have client data identifying the IP and shared 
secret of each AP. Clients will authenticate using username and password

only. (This does require some modification of the default security 
settings for a WPA2 connection in a typical Windows client computer. It 
will work though I promise. )

The Radius server will need a basic text editor so I can edit the client

and user files as needed. Logs will need to be kept for client access. 
DHCP will need to be supported.  I will need detailed instruction in how

to setup the certificate for each installation. I understand the logs, 
client file and user file syntax so I will not need instruction for
that.

I will pay for this to be done but I will need it fairly soon. Contact 
me OFFLIST at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to try to do this project 
and let me know what you will want to be paid for such a project. I have

been using the Deliberant 2350 Access Points to work on this. It is a 
standard WPA2 Enterprise setup though so you can use any AP of this type

I think and it should duplicate my setup.

OFFLIST your questions, quotes, etc.
Kindest regards,
Scriv
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RE: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick
We do a lot of shows.  For this industry, we've found ISPCON and WISPCON to
be of the most value.  WiNOG was headed that way, but it is now dormant.

There are lots of other shows that WISPs can enjoy and learn from:  VON,
WCA, NTCA Annual Meeting, IP Possibilities, and the regional ILEC shows.  We
also show at LinuxWorld (now one per year) and plan to go to Interop this
Spring. 

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

Any of them that you can learn from.

We've participated in ISPCon, WISPCon, and WiNOG that I can think of off the
top of my head.

I think ISPCon is probably the most well rounded.  The others are much more
focused on various wisp market segments.
marlon

- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...


What Trade Shows does WISPA endorse?



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Western Regional Sales Manager , Colubris Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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M: (760) 574-1749

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RE: [WISPA] I'm gonnadothe honorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Personally, I'd rather see one overall WISPA member list, but that's your
call.  If there is a vendor list, I would prefer that it be open to the rest
of the membership.

Jeff
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonnadothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

We originally talked about setting up a vendors only list.  Is there any
interest in that from the vendor community?
marlon

- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna dothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


 Hi Patrick.
 The member list is actually the member wisps operator private list.
 Only people allowed is wisps. It does not include manufacturers, 
 consultants, salespeople etc.
 Just wisps.
 It's designed for wisps to be able to openly and freely express 
 themselves without fear they are pissing off a vendor, etc.

 I'm sure you understand, it's just another perk to the wisps who wispa 
 is working for.

 George

 Patrick Leary wrote:
 I am paid, but not part of that list. Is this member WISPs only or 
 does it include also associate members (vendors)? Fine either way, so 
 long as the policy is firm.

 Patrick Leary
 AVP WISP Markets
 Alvarion, Inc.
 o: 650.314.2628
 c: 760.580.0080
 Vonage: 650.641.1243
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:08 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honorswithout permission-- 
 WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

 I think Scriv normally sets them up when they are paid.  It is a 
 manual but very quick process.  I added two today.

 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482
 Founding Member of WISPA


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:42 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honors without permission-- 
 WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

 Thanks Rick, your the man!

 Hey, does every paid member automatically get signed up to the membes 
 list or is a manual thing?

 George

 Rick Harnish wrote:
 It's taken care of George.
 Thanks

 Rick Harnish
 President
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 260-827-2482
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[WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm

2007-01-31 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have
voice plans.

However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be
able to use email.

I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that
have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why.

Thanks,
Cliff LeBoeuf
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net
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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Sorry, while writing I was thinking any idiot as in a person like me.  
It certainly was not to imply anything bad about phone girl.
I reread it and it does sound bad, and maybe this explanation is no 
clearer.  Either way.  I'm no writer.  I just some guy who like tower 
climbing.


Brian

Dawn DiPietro wrote:

Brian,



...The goal is to have it all set up so any idiot (call center, $6 an 
hour phone girl, ect) can use it for service calls, site surveys, 
billing...


Poor choice of words.

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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Marlon,

If you did not hire someone because of how their assets look in jeans 
maybe you would not have this issue. ;-)


Regards,
Dawn


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

LOL, you clearly have not had the honor of working with some of the 
people I've hired over the years!

marlon

- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program



Brian,



...The goal is to have it all set up so any idiot (call center, $6 
an hour phone girl, ect) can use it for service calls, site surveys, 
billing...



Poor choice of words.

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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Not sure what you mean, but I was not saying girls are idiots.
After reading it, it sounds bad, I know.  Let me try again.

The goal is to have it all set up so any person could use it for 
service calls, site surveys, billing, ect.regardless of their 
technical background they'd be able to quickly learn the system with 
minimal training.


Brian

ps  GIRLS  ROCK  :)
Without my wife and mom I wouldn't keep this biz afloat, that's for sure.

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
LOL, you clearly have not had the honor of working with some of the 
people I've hired over the years!

marlon

- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program



Brian,



...The goal is to have it all set up so any idiot (call center, $6 
an hour phone girl, ect) can use it for service calls, site surveys, 
billing...


Poor choice of words.

Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread George Rogato



Jeff Broadwick wrote:
  WiNOG was headed that way, but it is now dormant.


What happened to Charles' WINOG?
He seemed to be doing a good job..

George
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread Dylan Oliver

The real question is: What Trade Shows endorse WISPA?

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Re: [WISPA] I'mgonnadothe honorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The thought was, there may be discussions that you guys need to have.  Maybe 
you need to bounce some ideas around on the practicality of an idea without 
our interference.  Who knows.


WISPA's goal with the mailing list is that of trainer, first and foremost. 
A close second is as a facilitator.


We know that there are some things that the vendors need to work out 
sometimes.  We can provide a neutral venue for such activities.  If they are 
needed.


Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'mgonnadothe honorswithout permission--  
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!




Personally, I'd rather see one overall WISPA member list, but that's your
call.  If there is a vendor list, I would prefer that it be open to the 
rest

of the membership.

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonnadothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

We originally talked about setting up a vendors only list.  Is there any
interest in that from the vendor community?
marlon

- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna dothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!



Hi Patrick.
The member list is actually the member wisps operator private list.
Only people allowed is wisps. It does not include manufacturers,
consultants, salespeople etc.
Just wisps.
It's designed for wisps to be able to openly and freely express
themselves without fear they are pissing off a vendor, etc.

I'm sure you understand, it's just another perk to the wisps who wispa
is working for.

George

Patrick Leary wrote:

I am paid, but not part of that list. Is this member WISPs only or
does it include also associate members (vendors)? Fine either way, so
long as the policy is firm.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honorswithout permission-- 
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


I think Scriv normally sets them up when they are paid.  It is a
manual but very quick process.  I added two today.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honors without permission-- 
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


Thanks Rick, your the man!

Hey, does every paid member automatically get signed up to the membes
list or is a manual thing?

George

Rick Harnish wrote:

It's taken care of George.
Thanks

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA








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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread George Rogato

Well ISPCON just did a nice thing for WISPA, that was a huge endorsement.
WISPNOG opened their booth up to WISPA and gave WISPA time in a 
conference hall and even WISPCON sent WISPA 5 free passes to WISPCON, 
and they are a competing wireless trade org.




Dylan Oliver wrote:

The real question is: What Trade Shows endorse WISPA?

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Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The palms are so danged expensive.  And I tend to break phones often when 
out in the field.


If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has better 
coverage and/or prices.  We just moved away from Cingular and the problems 
are around the same but coverage is better and the costs are lower.  AND the 
support of a local company has been wonderful!  Walk into the store and the 
same people are there month after month, they know my name etc.


Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the average guy.  Those that need 
network access to your gear could use the palms.


I'm looking for a palm or Q phone as soon as I can afford one.  Typing even 
short emails on a standard phone sucks.  And it would be cool to do some 
network stuff via a cell phone from time to time.  I'm not always in range 
of my own towers.  At least not with a laptop.


laters,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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- Original Message - 
From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm


My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have
voice plans.

However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be
able to use email.

I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that
have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why.

Thanks,
Cliff LeBoeuf
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net
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RE: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick
You'd have to run that past Charles. 

Jeff
 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...



Jeff Broadwick wrote:
   WiNOG was headed that way, but it is now dormant.


What happened to Charles' WINOG?
He seemed to be doing a good job..

George
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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Yikes!  Busted!  lol

Sorry Dawn, but I'm living proof that one doesn't have to be good looking to 
be dumb as a post sometimes!  lol


What I tell software people that I run into is that my grandma has to be 
able to figure out how to use the software.  She doesn't have a computer and 
has never used that DVD player we bought her.  If she can figure it out the 
rest of us will be able to pay attention to work not the computer.


I figure that any program that needs a manual in this day and age is poorly 
written.  Usually because the programmers have gotten lazy.  Or they've put 
too much crap in their software (Quicken is a great example of great 
software gone fat, then obese, and now nearly totally useless).


Complicated software is a great mechanism for selling support contracts 
though!


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- Original Message - 
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program



Marlon,

If you did not hire someone because of how their assets look in jeans 
maybe you would not have this issue. ;-)


Regards,
Dawn


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

LOL, you clearly have not had the honor of working with some of the 
people I've hired over the years!

marlon

- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program



Brian,



...The goal is to have it all set up so any idiot (call center, $6 an 
hour phone girl, ect) can use it for service calls, site surveys, 
billing...



Poor choice of words.

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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

So far, ISPCon has done the best job.

Marlon
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- Original Message - 
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...



The real question is: What Trade Shows endorse WISPA?

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[WISPA] ISP Market: Proposing New Services to Customers

2007-01-31 Thread RickG

http://www.iec.org/newsletter/jan07_2/broadband_2.html

ISP Market: Proposing New Services to Customers
Educational content provided by Stefan Bengtsson, BeWAN systems

A Turning Point in Europe's Increasingly Competitive Market
In recent years, Europe has witnessed significant growth of the
Internet, both in the increasing number of subscribers and the
appearance of new operators. While the market has reached maturity in
several countries, competition remains aggressive. The challenge for
Internet service providers (ISPs) is not only to acquire new
customers, but also to improve the long-term loyalty of their
subscribers.

Consumers are also changing their habits. A parallel can be drawn
between how the market for Internet service has evolved and what has
happened with mobile telephony. Imagine trying to sell a mobile phone
today without a color screen or a built-in camera! Users today want
products that offer the broadest possible range of functionality.

ISPs are facing a similar situation with high-speed Internet:
consumers are no longer simply looking for fast access, but also for
services that will impact their daily lives, in addition to
high-quality connections and related services.
Convergence and Added Services
The mobile phone market was the first to offer mass-market convergence
devices: calculators, cameras, notebooks, agendas, e-mail, MP3
players, and video game consoles. The mobile phone has evolved into a
technology center, and as a result, mobile operators have been able to
significantly increase their revenues by developing additional
services.

The same trend is appearing with Internet connectivity products. ISPs
are placing devices in their subscribers' households, which in
addition to managing Internet connectivity, are also providing a
number of complementary services. The French market is a good example:
to sustain and even increase their revenue, ISPs have chosen to use
several technologies that have emerged since the development of
high-speed connectivity, including IP telephony and digital
television. And now, multi-play devices are appearing on the market.

While still taking shape, today's multi-play device offerings are
facing strong competition from market players.

In response, a residential gateway that would allow ISPs to provide
their subscribers new services in digital entertainment and home
automation would complement the more traditional services such as
high-speed Internet connection, IP telephony, and television.

The objective is to allow ISPs to differentiate themselves by
proposing unique services that will best position them to evolve in
response to the needs of their subscribers.
A Scalable Residential Gateway to Support a Range of Significant Services
By choosing a scalable residential gateway, ISPs will be able to
advance at a pace in line with the proliferation of new uses and adapt
their offering to their subscribers' needs and demands.

They will be better positioned to adjust the price of their users'
subscriptions based on available functionality: high-speed Internet,
IP telephony, IPTV, shared digital support (e.g., data, audio, video,
blogs, pictures, images) and home automation applications (e.g.,
remotely operating surveillance cameras, enabling subscribers to
control the home heating/air-conditioning system from the office)

Furthermore, ISPs could supply their users with hardware that
complements these additional services. The consumer's shopping cart
would include storage peripherals, MP3 and video players, webcams,
cameras, and Bluetooth adapters, resulting in increased average
spending and a deeper involvement with their service provider.
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[WISPA] CALEA

2007-01-31 Thread Ross Cornett
Is anyone aware of this?
a.. Date: May 14, 2007 
a.. Requirement: Deadline for Interconnected VoIP and Broadband Access 
providers.

http://www.askcalea.net/faqs.html

I was notified by a local CO that we had to be compliant by Feb 2nd...  Anyone 
know anything about this?


Ross Cornett
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217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

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RE: [WISPA] CALEA

2007-01-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick
It will be awfully hard to be compliant by Feb. 2nd when the government is
planning to release the compliance standard at the end of February.

Jeff 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ross Cornett
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:29 AM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] CALEA

Is anyone aware of this?
a.. Date: May 14, 2007
a.. Requirement: Deadline for Interconnected VoIP and Broadband Access
providers.

http://www.askcalea.net/faqs.html

I was notified by a local CO that we had to be compliant by Feb 2nd...
Anyone know anything about this?


Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

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Re: [WISPA] I'm gonnadothe honorswithout permission-- WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

2007-01-31 Thread John Scrivner
I can see this may need addressed going forward. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] list 
is not used very much. We use it predominantly to offer things directly 
to paid members that nobody else gets. Most recently we got 5 free all 
access passes to WISPCON that we gave out to WISPs who are paid members 
on that list. I do not make it a habit to share business plans going 
forward to the general public. I do share some degree of higher level 
business planning information with WISPs on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. I 
share brainstorming ideas with how to advance our industry there from 
time to time. That type of information I only feel comfortable sharing 
with those WISPs I know are serious about having a vested interest in 
advancing this industry (Paid WISPA Principle Members). If anything ever 
comes up where I think a vendor needs to be in the loop I would 
certainly ask the group for permission and then if granted I would 
forward it to the respective vendor(s). Vendor debates are not a high 
priority in our private list though I assure you.


I appreciate your feedback. We will consider the possibility of an all 
members list and I do think it is probably needed if for no other 
reason than to handle things like nominations, elections, 
membership-wide issues, etc.

Thanks Jeff,
Scriv


Jeff Broadwick wrote:


Personally, I'd rather see one overall WISPA member list, but that's your
call.  If there is a vendor list, I would prefer that it be open to the rest
of the membership.

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonnadothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!

We originally talked about setting up a vendors only list.  Is there any
interest in that from the vendor community?
marlon

- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna dothe honorswithout permission--
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


 


Hi Patrick.
The member list is actually the member wisps operator private list.
Only people allowed is wisps. It does not include manufacturers, 
consultants, salespeople etc.

Just wisps.
It's designed for wisps to be able to openly and freely express 
themselves without fear they are pissing off a vendor, etc.


I'm sure you understand, it's just another perk to the wisps who wispa 
is working for.


George

Patrick Leary wrote:
   

I am paid, but not part of that list. Is this member WISPs only or 
does it include also associate members (vendors)? Fine either way, so 
long as the policy is firm.


Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Rick Harnish

Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honorswithout permission-- 
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


I think Scriv normally sets them up when they are paid.  It is a 
manual but very quick process.  I added two today.


Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of George Rogato

Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm gonna do the honors without permission-- 
WELCOMEMartyRoadstar!


Thanks Rick, your the man!

Hey, does every paid member automatically get signed up to the membes 
list or is a manual thing?


George

Rick Harnish wrote:
 


It's taken care of George.
Thanks

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

   



 


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Re: [WISPA] CALEA

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Yes.  We're working on this from a couple of different angles.

First, we've got a couple of lawyers (one an ex wisp) working on an FAQ or 
whitepaper so that we all know exactly what the law says, in layman's terms.


Second, we've been talking to the FCC and FBI.  We'll likely end up 
developing an FBI approved wisp calea standard.  That's a ways away though 
and we're still just talking to them.


I'll ramp up the calea talks after I get through the tv whitespaces issues 
and the up coming fcc and ftc meetings in mid feb.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - 
From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] CALEA


Is anyone aware of this?
a.. Date: May 14, 2007
a.. Requirement: Deadline for Interconnected VoIP and Broadband Access 
providers.


http://www.askcalea.net/faqs.html

I was notified by a local CO that we had to be compliant by Feb 2nd... 
Anyone know anything about this?



Ross Cornett
VP
217 342 6201 ex 7
HofNet Communications, Inc.
www.HofNet-Communications.com

HofNet-Communications.com
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Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread John Scrivner
There you go! I see no reason why a trade show would not be a member of 
this association just like a WISP or a consultant or a vendor / 
manufacturer. Makes sense to me. Any shows want to join WISPA? I think 
vendor status would work for that.

:-)
Scriv



Dylan Oliver wrote:


The real question is: What Trade Shows endorse WISPA?

Best,


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RE: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

2007-01-31 Thread David Wilson
Thanks Jeff and the rest.  I will take the list of suggestions to my
marketing and see what's what.

Thanks again.

Dave Wilson
Western Regional Sales Manager , Colubris Networks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: (760) 481-7485
M: (760) 574-1749
http://www.colubris.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

We do a lot of shows.  For this industry, we've found ISPCON and WISPCON
to
be of the most value.  WiNOG was headed that way, but it is now dormant.

There are lots of other shows that WISPs can enjoy and learn from:  VON,
WCA, NTCA Annual Meeting, IP Possibilities, and the regional ILEC shows.
We
also show at LinuxWorld (now one per year) and plan to go to Interop
this
Spring. 

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...

Any of them that you can learn from.

We've participated in ISPCon, WISPCon, and WiNOG that I can think of off
the
top of my head.

I think ISPCon is probably the most well rounded.  The others are much
more
focused on various wisp market segments.
marlon

- Original Message -
From: David Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...


What Trade Shows does WISPA endorse?



Dave Wilson

Western Regional Sales Manager , Colubris Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

W: (760) 481-7485

M: (760) 574-1749

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[WISPA] New WISPA Member - Gino Villarini of Aeronet Wireless Broadband

2007-01-31 Thread John Scrivner
Please help me welcome Gino Villarini as a new Principle WISPA Member. 
He has been part of our group on the public wireless@wispa.org list for 
sometime and has decided to make his alliance with WISPA official. We 
thank you for that step, Gino. Any industry needs a good trade 
association to represent the interests of its members and WISPA is that 
trade group for the WISP industry. There is power in numbers and each of 
you make WISPA that much stronger when you make your membership 
official. Here is some information about Gino and his company Aeronet 
Wireless Broadband:


Aeronet Wireless Broadband started in 2002 as an endeavor to provide
Business Class IP services to the local Small, Medium and Large
Businesses in San Juan, PR. Utilizing a 95% Motorola Canopy Network, as
of 2006, we are covering 80% of the Business Centric Areas trough our 45
POPS in Puerto Rico.  Current offerings include Broadband Internet, VLAN
WAN and VOIP.

We are support all WISP centric efforts, thus we have joined WISPA to
help grow the Industry 


Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145


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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Member - Gino Villarini of Aeronet Wireless Broadband

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Welcome aboard.

John Scrivner wrote:
Please help me welcome Gino Villarini as a new Principle WISPA Member. 
He has been part of our group on the public wireless@wispa.org list 
for sometime and has decided to make his alliance with WISPA official. 
We thank you for that step, Gino. Any industry needs a good trade 
association to represent the interests of its members and WISPA is 
that trade group for the WISP industry. There is power in numbers and 
each of you make WISPA that much stronger when you make your 
membership official. Here is some information about Gino and his 
company Aeronet Wireless Broadband:


Aeronet Wireless Broadband started in 2002 as an endeavor to provide
Business Class IP services to the local Small, Medium and Large
Businesses in San Juan, PR. Utilizing a 95% Motorola Canopy Network, as
of 2006, we are covering 80% of the Business Centric Areas trough our 45
POPS in Puerto Rico.  Current offerings include Broadband Internet, VLAN
WAN and VOIP.

We are support all WISP centric efforts, thus we have joined WISPA to
help grow the Industry
Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145



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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Jim Stout
I tend to agree with Dylan.  I struggled for over two weeks trying to get a 
similar-sounding billing system up and running.  It was very fragile and if 
you sneezed close to the server, it required a call to their Technical 
Support to get it back up.  I sent it back and have yet to receive my 
refund.  BTW, I'm now running  MikroTik Router OS on a Wintel platform and 
it does exactly what I need.  It provisions bandwidth and it runs.


FWIW, Jim

Jim Stout
LTO Communications, LLC
15701 Henry Andrews Dr
Pleasant Hill, MO 64080
(816) 305-1076 - Mobile
(816) 497-0033 - Pager

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program


Well, he didn't say it was a secret but he didn't tell me to tell the 
world.  He asked me to send a list of suggestions of anything I wanted in 
the program and said he had another guy who just sent a half dozen 
suggestions in and they were all added into the latest rev.  I don't think 
it's my place to release the product.  I just want suggestions on what 
the perfect wisp program would include so we can get it.


Brian

Dylan Oliver wrote:

On 1/30/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Remember nothing is set in stone, but it sounded like the software would
be almost free to use if your gear was from this manufacturer, and every
time you bought a cpe
you'd get a license.

I don't know much about radius but it is suppose to work nice with it.

Now is the time, throw out your crazy ideas everyone...



I'm guessing we'd be more interested if we knew who this vendor was?

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Re: [WISPA] billing program

2007-01-31 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
You can agree with whatever you want, but I'm not asking anyone to be 
interested in a program.


Don't worry about how why or who would make such a program.  All I am 
asking is if such a beast exists, what would everyone want included in it. 
I only need you to imagine a perfect world with that perfect wisp 
program in it.  Now describe the program.


Brian

Jim Stout wrote:
I tend to agree with Dylan.  I struggled for over two weeks trying to 
get a similar-sounding billing system up and running.  It was very 
fragile and if you sneezed close to the server, it required a call to 
their Technical Support to get it back up.  I sent it back and have 
yet to receive my refund.  BTW, I'm now running  MikroTik Router OS on 
a Wintel platform and it does exactly what I need.  It provisions 
bandwidth and it runs.


FWIW, Jim

Jim Stout
LTO Communications, LLC
15701 Henry Andrews Dr
Pleasant Hill, MO 64080
(816) 305-1076 - Mobile
(816) 497-0033 - Pager

- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] billing program


Well, he didn't say it was a secret but he didn't tell me to tell the 
world.  He asked me to send a list of suggestions of anything I 
wanted in the program and said he had another guy who just sent a 
half dozen suggestions in and they were all added into the latest 
rev.  I don't think it's my place to release the product.  I just 
want suggestions on what the perfect wisp program would include so 
we can get it.


Brian

Dylan Oliver wrote:

On 1/30/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Remember nothing is set in stone, but it sounded like the software 
would
be almost free to use if your gear was from this manufacturer, and 
every

time you bought a cpe
you'd get a license.

I don't know much about radius but it is suppose to work nice with it.

Now is the time, throw out your crazy ideas everyone...



I'm guessing we'd be more interested if we knew who this vendor was?

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Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm

2007-01-31 Thread Carl A jeptha
Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 
(Has built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check 
email and so on. Also can use skype.


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
The palms are so danged expensive.  And I tend to break phones often 
when out in the field.


If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has 
better coverage and/or prices.  We just moved away from Cingular and 
the problems are around the same but coverage is better and the costs 
are lower.  AND the support of a local company has been wonderful!  
Walk into the store and the same people are there month after month, 
they know my name etc.


Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the average guy.  Those that 
need network access to your gear could use the palms.


I'm looking for a palm or Q phone as soon as I can afford one.  Typing 
even short emails on a standard phone sucks.  And it would be cool to 
do some network stuff via a cell phone from time to time.  I'm not 
always in range of my own towers.  At least not with a laptop.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm


My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have
voice plans.

However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be
able to use email.

I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that
have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why.

Thanks,
Cliff LeBoeuf
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net

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Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Price


In my experience, Blackberry is much better for emailing.  The scroll 
wheel and the software are a lot more intuitive for heavy email users.


Palm has more apps and is better for people that need to do web apps or 
special mobile apps.


Mark



Cliff Leboeuf wrote:


My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have
voice plans.

However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be
able to use email.

I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that
have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why.

Thanks,
Cliff LeBoeuf
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net
 



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[WISPA] FCC High Speed Services Data

2007-01-31 Thread Rick Harnish
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE NEWS MEDIA
CONTACT:

January 31, 2007
Mark Wigfield at (202) 418-0253

 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RELEASES DATA ON 

HIGH-SPEED SERVICES FOR INTERNET ACCESS

 

High-Speed Connections to the Internet Increased by 26% in

the First Half of 2006

 

Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) today
released new data on high-speed connections to the Internet in the United
States.  Twice a year, all facilities-based broadband providers are required
to report to the Commission basic information about their service offerings
and types of customers pursuant to the FCC's local telephone competition and
broadband data gathering program (FCC Form 477).  Statistics released today
reflect data as of June 30, 2006. 

 

For reporting purposes, high-speed lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kilobits per second (kbps) in at least one
direction, while advanced services lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kbps in both directions.  Commencing with
the June 2005 data, we collect and report more detailed information about
the speeds of in-service lines, provide finer distinctions among
technologies, and collect and analyze information about the availability of
high-speed Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) connections from incumbent local
exchange carriers (incumbent LECs) and high-speed cable modem service from
cable TV system operators.   

 

1)  High-Speed Lines

 

*  High-speed lines increased by 26% during the first half of 2006,
from 51.2 million to 64.6 million lines in service, compared to a 21%
increase, from 42.4 million to 51.2 million lines, during the second half of
2005.  For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, high-speed
lines increased by 52% (or 22.2 million lines).  High-speed lines encompass
advanced services lines and also include lines that deliver services at
speeds exceeding 200 kbps in one, but not both, directions.   

 

*  Of the 64.6 million total high-speed lines reported as of June
30, 2006, 50.3 million served primarily residential end users.  Cable modem
service represented 55.2% of these lines while 40.1% were asymmetric DSL
(ADSL) connections, 0.2% were symmetric DSL (SDSL) or traditional wireline
connections, 0.9% were fiber connections to the end user premises, and 3.7%
used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial fixed or
mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and electric power
line.  

 

*  ADSL lines increased by 3.1 million lines during the first half
of 2006 compared to an increase of 2.0 million lines for cable modem
service.  For the full year, ADSL increased by 6.3 million lines compared to
an increase of 4.6 million lines for cable modem service.

 

2)  Advanced Services Lines

 

*  Advanced services lines, which deliver services at speeds
exceeding 200 kbps in both directions, increased by 15% during the first
half of 2006, from 43.8 million to 50.4 million, compared to a 18% increase,
from 37.3 million to 43.8 million lines, during the second half of 2005.
For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, advanced services
lines increased 35% (or 13.2 million lines).  

 

*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines reported as of June
30, 2006, 63.1% were at least 2.5 mbps in the faster direction and 36.9%
were slower than 2.5 mbps in the faster direction.

 

*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines, 45.9 million served
primarily residential end users.  Cable modem service represented 59.9% of
these lines while 35.8% were ADSL connections, 0.2% were SDSL or traditional
wireline connections, 1.0% were fiber connections to the end user premises,
and 3.2% used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial
fixed or mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and electric
power line.

 

3)  Geographic Coverage

 

*  As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL
connections were available to 79% of the households to whom incumbent LECs
could provide local telephone service as of June 30, 2006, and that
high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to
whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service.  

 

*  Providers list the Zip Codes in which they have at least one
high-speed connection in service to an end user, and 99% of Zip Codes were
listed by at least one provider.  Our analysis indicates that more than 99%
of the nation's population lives in those Zip Codes.  The most widely
reported technologies by this measure were satellite (with at least some
presence reported in 90% of Zip Codes), ADSL (in 82% of Zip Codes), and
cable modem (in 64% of Zip Codes).  ADSL and/or cable modem connections were
reported to be present in 88% of Zip Codes.

 

The summary statistics 

[WISPA] Refreshing Day

2007-01-31 Thread Rick Harnish
Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana.
We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the
base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get
out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still
having issues.  Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave
me a chance to interface with some customers face to face.  

 

It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks
for bringing broadband out into the rural areas.  These were a few customers
that had very little service in the last few days.  I almost feel like I
should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month.  It
really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do.  Eight
years ago when we started this, it was very apparent.  Lately it seems like
most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price.
Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression.
Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO
YEAR CONTRACT, no way!.  Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the
smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all
that away.  Heck, I think I was happier than they were.

 

My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a
distance.  He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged
on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio.   He was
so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the
installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would
be home in about an hour.  I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue
rather quickly.  Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower
needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue.  I guess I could have done that
from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face.
The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that
he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff.  Some
people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its
customers.  It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for
life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else.

 

Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway.  You
know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go
on home now :-)

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA

 

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Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh?

I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due 
to trees etc.  While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so 
ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors.


A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him.  Got the customer up 
and running.  My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit 
from the customer, and the customer has service.  A great day all around!


marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day



Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana.
We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing 
the
base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to 
get
out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were 
still
having issues.  Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it 
gave

me a chance to interface with some customers face to face.



It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many 
thanks
for bringing broadband out into the rural areas.  These were a few 
customers

that had very little service in the last few days.  I almost feel like I
should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month.  It
really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do.  Eight
years ago when we started this, it was very apparent.  Lately it seems 
like

most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price.
Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression.
Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO
YEAR CONTRACT, no way!.  Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing 
the
smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes 
all

that away.  Heck, I think I was happier than they were.



My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a
distance.  He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged
on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio.   He 
was

so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the
installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I 
would
be home in about an hour.  I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the 
issue

rather quickly.  Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower
needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue.  I guess I could have done 
that
from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to 
face.
The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure 
that
he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. 
Some

people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its
customers.  It's not all about price, service like this makes customers 
for

life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else.



Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway.  You
know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you 
go

on home now :-)



Respectfully,



Rick Harnish

President

OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482

Founding Member of WISPA



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RE: [WISPA] Refreshing Day

2007-01-31 Thread Rick Smith
I wish it were that way for me.

I called a competitor once, as I had a $500/month account.  All I could
see was the tower they're on.  Called them, told em I'd pay them
$250 / month for the account ( I know they charge a lot more than
that... ) since I'd manage the customer, etc.

They hung up on me.  I called back to talk to the owner and was rudely
told, even by him, that they would not support their competitors.  hah.

I hooked the customer up with a cable modem, and I paid for the line
so I could run an AP off his roof with now 12 customers from there.  
One of the other customers could see my stuff, so I use the cable
line as a backup now.  :)

Oh, the competitor left that tower, too...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day

Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh?

I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due
to trees etc.  While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so
ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors.

A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him.  Got the customer up
and running.  My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit
from the customer, and the customer has service.  A great day all around!

marlon

- Original Message -
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day


 Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana.
 We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing 
 the
 base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to 
 get
 out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were 
 still
 having issues.  Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it 
 gave
 me a chance to interface with some customers face to face.



 It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many 
 thanks
 for bringing broadband out into the rural areas.  These were a few 
 customers
 that had very little service in the last few days.  I almost feel like I
 should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month.  It
 really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do.  Eight
 years ago when we started this, it was very apparent.  Lately it seems 
 like
 most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price.
 Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression.
 Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO
 YEAR CONTRACT, no way!.  Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing 
 the
 smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes 
 all
 that away.  Heck, I think I was happier than they were.



 My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a
 distance.  He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged
 on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio.   He 
 was
 so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the
 installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I 
 would
 be home in about an hour.  I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the 
 issue
 rather quickly.  Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower
 needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue.  I guess I could have done 
 that
 from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to 
 face.
 The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure 
 that
 he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. 
 Some
 people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its
 customers.  It's not all about price, service like this makes customers 
 for
 life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else.



 Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway.  You
 know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you 
 go
 on home now :-)



 Respectfully,



 Rick Harnish

 President

 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

 260-827-2482

 Founding Member of WISPA



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Re: [WISPA] FCC High Speed Services Data

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Just think of how much better all of those numbers would be if the other 
2600+ wisps out there would fill out that danged 477!


marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: [WISPA] FCC High Speed Services Data


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE NEWS 
MEDIA

CONTACT:

January 31, 2007
Mark Wigfield at (202) 418-0253


Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RELEASES DATA ON

HIGH-SPEED SERVICES FOR INTERNET ACCESS



High-Speed Connections to the Internet Increased by 26% in

the First Half of 2006



Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) today
released new data on high-speed connections to the Internet in the United
States.  Twice a year, all facilities-based broadband providers are 
required
to report to the Commission basic information about their service 
offerings
and types of customers pursuant to the FCC's local telephone competition 
and
broadband data gathering program (FCC Form 477).  Statistics released 
today

reflect data as of June 30, 2006.



For reporting purposes, high-speed lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kilobits per second (kbps) in at least 
one

direction, while advanced services lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kbps in both directions.  Commencing with
the June 2005 data, we collect and report more detailed information about
the speeds of in-service lines, provide finer distinctions among
technologies, and collect and analyze information about the availability 
of

high-speed Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) connections from incumbent local
exchange carriers (incumbent LECs) and high-speed cable modem service from
cable TV system operators.



1)  High-Speed Lines



*  High-speed lines increased by 26% during the first half of 
2006,

from 51.2 million to 64.6 million lines in service, compared to a 21%
increase, from 42.4 million to 51.2 million lines, during the second half 
of

2005.  For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, high-speed
lines increased by 52% (or 22.2 million lines).  High-speed lines 
encompass

advanced services lines and also include lines that deliver services at
speeds exceeding 200 kbps in one, but not both, directions.



*  Of the 64.6 million total high-speed lines reported as of June
30, 2006, 50.3 million served primarily residential end users.  Cable 
modem

service represented 55.2% of these lines while 40.1% were asymmetric DSL
(ADSL) connections, 0.2% were symmetric DSL (SDSL) or traditional wireline
connections, 0.9% were fiber connections to the end user premises, and 
3.7%

used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial fixed or
mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and electric power
line.



*  ADSL lines increased by 3.1 million lines during the first half
of 2006 compared to an increase of 2.0 million lines for cable modem
service.  For the full year, ADSL increased by 6.3 million lines compared 
to

an increase of 4.6 million lines for cable modem service.



2)  Advanced Services Lines



*  Advanced services lines, which deliver services at speeds
exceeding 200 kbps in both directions, increased by 15% during the first
half of 2006, from 43.8 million to 50.4 million, compared to a 18% 
increase,

from 37.3 million to 43.8 million lines, during the second half of 2005.
For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, advanced services
lines increased 35% (or 13.2 million lines).



*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines reported as of June
30, 2006, 63.1% were at least 2.5 mbps in the faster direction and 36.9%
were slower than 2.5 mbps in the faster direction.



*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines, 45.9 million 
served

primarily residential end users.  Cable modem service represented 59.9% of
these lines while 35.8% were ADSL connections, 0.2% were SDSL or 
traditional
wireline connections, 1.0% were fiber connections to the end user 
premises,

and 3.2% used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial
fixed or mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and electric
power line.



3)  Geographic Coverage



*  As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL
connections were available to 79% of the households to whom incumbent LECs
could provide local telephone service as of June 30, 2006, and that
high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to
whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service.



*  Providers list the Zip Codes in which they have at least one
high-speed connection in service to an end user, and 99% of Zip Codes were
listed by at least one provider.  Our analysis indicates that more than 
99%

of the nation's population lives in those Zip 

[WISPA] Fw: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!

2007-01-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
For anyone interested in going.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Fawson 
To: 'Greg Fawson' 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!


Friends and Colleagues,

 

The IPTV 2007 Technology Conference agenda is now final!  

 

Be sure to go online to check out all the new additions and the full agenda 
with titles and abstracts for each session. (For reference, we've included the 
full agenda below)  With so many new additions in the past two weeks, we've 
decided to extend the early-bird registration rate to accommodate those who 
have been waiting for the final agenda to be published.  We're looking forward 
to one of the most important and comprehensive conferences on deploying IPTV 
services.  This is truly a can't miss event to kick off 2007!

 

Register Now: www.s2data.com/iptv2007/register.htm

 

Check out the final agenda with these new additions!

· Jeff Spagnola, Vice President, Worldwide Service Provider Business 
Cisco

 

New Sessions:

· Creating a Content Delivery Path to the Home

· Access Network Architectures: Video Transport Network: Building the 
Business Case for Video Services

· Codec Wars 2.0 - This Time, It's Personal

 

Consolidated Final Agenda

 

Keynote:

IPTV - Driving Discontinuities in the TV Experience

Peter Barrett, Chief Technology Office and General Manager of Engineering - 
Microsoft TV

 

Keynote

Jeff Spagnola, Vice President, Worldwide Service Provider Business - Cisco

 

Telco Operator Panel Discussion

The Need For Triple-Play: IPTV From the Carrier's Perspective

Claas Heise - T-Ventures (Deutsche Telekom)

Sean Crawford - France Telecom Labs

Vernon Reed - ATT

 

 

Gaining a Competitive Edge in Consumer Digital Service Strategies

Dr. Ken Morse, Vice President Client Architecture - Scientific Atlanta, A Cisco 
Company

 

Deployment Challenges For an IPTV Solution

Geeta Chaudhary, Director of IP Video Solutions - Lucent Worldwide Services

 

Delivering Mainstream Entertainment Over Powerlines

Chano Gomez, VP Technology and Strategic Partnerships - DS2

 

Making Triple Play Mainstream Business - 13 Weeks to Video

Steve Klein, Director Video Solutions - Zhone Technologies, Inc.

 

Maintaining QoE in Triple Play Networks

Joe Haver, Wireline Program Manager -Agilent Technologies' Assurance Solutions 
Division

 

Hybrid STB and the Migration to IPTV

Keri Waters, Sr. Director, Strategic Marketing - Micronas

 

Making the Business Case for Delivering IPTV Services: Solving the Home 
Networking Conundrum

Steve McKay, CEO - Entone

 

BREAKING DOWN THE WALLED GARDEN - Anywhere, Anytime Media Access Within the Home

Frank Galuppo, President, CEO, and Director of Amedia Networks, Inc

 

Evaluating Home Networking Technologies

Vernon Reed, Principal Member of Technical Staff - Video   Home Networking  
ATT Labs Inc. 

 

Digital Content Monitoring: Assuring a Flawless IPTV User Experience

Eric Conley, CEO - Mixed Signals.

 

Interactivity and the IPTV Experience 

Jonathan Symonds, Vice President - TANDBERG Television

 

The Best Medium for Distributing Video Throughout the Home Already Exists

John Graham, Vice President - Entropic Communications 

 

Ways to Solve the IPTV Packet Loss and Delay Conundrum

Dr. Deepak Kataria, Systems Integration Manager - Agere Systems

 

Creating a Content Delivery Path to the Home

Eric Free, Senior Vice President and General Manager Hardware Licensing Group - 
Macrovision

 

Beyond 802.11n: A Real-world Look at How Service Providers are Solving the 
Last 100 Feet Problem with WiFi

Rob Mustarde, Vice President - Ruckus Wireless

 

Successfully Implementing IPTV Middleware to Your Existing OSS and Billing 
Systems 

Frank Gine, Vice President, Sales and Marketing - ETI Software

 

Features of Today's Leading IPTV Multimedia Home Networking Technology

Richard Nesin, VP Marketing - Coppergate Communications

 

IPTV: A Look Forward

Rick Sailor, VP Americas - Amino Communications LLC

 

Make or Break? The Power of the User Interface on Entertainment Devices and 
Services 

Simon Woodward, CEO - ANT

 

Home Networking and IPTV - A Happy Marriage

Steve Oetegenn, EVP of Global Sales  Marketing - Verimatrix

 

Making VOD a reality for IPTV: Challenges and Solutions

Sandeep Gupte,  Director of Product Marketing - Modulus Video

 

The New Generation of On Demand TV

Safi U. Qureshey, Chairman  CEO - Quartics, Inc.

 

Codec Wars 2.0 - This Time, It's Personal

Jeremy Hendy, Vice President - Aspex

 

Deepening the Impact of Marketing Through Interactivity and IPTV

Rex Wong is the CEO of Dave Networks, Inc.,

 

Finding Synergies between FMC and IPTV 

Brian Caskey, VP Worldwide Marketing - Advanced Technology - UTStarcom Inc.

 

Personalization Versus Privacy: The Two Can Co-Exist

Kelly Anderson, President and COO - IPDR.org

 

Internet VOD - What Have You Done For Me Lately?

Josh Goldman, 

Re: [WISPA] FCC High Speed Services Data

2007-01-31 Thread John Scrivner
No...we can't fill that out. Why should we follow the law and allow 
regulators to see we are actually filling the digital divide? It is far 
better to give them ammo to ignore our efforts and build justification 
for federally subsidized funding of rural broadband through telco and 
cable. Why should we count for anything?

Scriv


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Just think of how much better all of those numbers would be if the 
other 2600+ wisps out there would fill out that danged 477!


marlon

- Original Message - From: Rick Harnish 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: [WISPA] FCC High Speed Services Data


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 
NEWS MEDIA

CONTACT:

January 31, 2007
Mark Wigfield at (202) 418-0253


Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION RELEASES DATA ON

HIGH-SPEED SERVICES FOR INTERNET ACCESS



High-Speed Connections to the Internet Increased by 26% in

the First Half of 2006



Washington, D.C. - The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) today
released new data on high-speed connections to the Internet in the 
United
States.  Twice a year, all facilities-based broadband providers are 
required
to report to the Commission basic information about their service 
offerings
and types of customers pursuant to the FCC's local telephone 
competition and
broadband data gathering program (FCC Form 477).  Statistics released 
today

reflect data as of June 30, 2006.



For reporting purposes, high-speed lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kilobits per second (kbps) in at 
least one

direction, while advanced services lines are connections that deliver
services at speeds exceeding 200 kbps in both directions.  Commencing 
with
the June 2005 data, we collect and report more detailed information 
about

the speeds of in-service lines, provide finer distinctions among
technologies, and collect and analyze information about the 
availability of
high-speed Digital Subscriber Line (DSL) connections from incumbent 
local
exchange carriers (incumbent LECs) and high-speed cable modem service 
from

cable TV system operators.



1)  High-Speed Lines



*  High-speed lines increased by 26% during the first half of 
2006,

from 51.2 million to 64.6 million lines in service, compared to a 21%
increase, from 42.4 million to 51.2 million lines, during the second 
half of

2005.  For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, high-speed
lines increased by 52% (or 22.2 million lines).  High-speed lines 
encompass

advanced services lines and also include lines that deliver services at
speeds exceeding 200 kbps in one, but not both, directions.



*  Of the 64.6 million total high-speed lines reported as of 
June
30, 2006, 50.3 million served primarily residential end users.  Cable 
modem

service represented 55.2% of these lines while 40.1% were asymmetric DSL
(ADSL) connections, 0.2% were symmetric DSL (SDSL) or traditional 
wireline
connections, 0.9% were fiber connections to the end user premises, 
and 3.7%

used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial fixed or
mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and electric power
line.



*  ADSL lines increased by 3.1 million lines during the first 
half

of 2006 compared to an increase of 2.0 million lines for cable modem
service.  For the full year, ADSL increased by 6.3 million lines 
compared to

an increase of 4.6 million lines for cable modem service.



2)  Advanced Services Lines



*  Advanced services lines, which deliver services at speeds
exceeding 200 kbps in both directions, increased by 15% during the first
half of 2006, from 43.8 million to 50.4 million, compared to a 18% 
increase,

from 37.3 million to 43.8 million lines, during the second half of 2005.
For the full twelve month period ending June 30, 2006, advanced services
lines increased 35% (or 13.2 million lines).



*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines reported as of 
June

30, 2006, 63.1% were at least 2.5 mbps in the faster direction and 36.9%
were slower than 2.5 mbps in the faster direction.



*  Of the 50.4 million advanced services lines, 45.9 million 
served
primarily residential end users.  Cable modem service represented 
59.9% of
these lines while 35.8% were ADSL connections, 0.2% were SDSL or 
traditional
wireline connections, 1.0% were fiber connections to the end user 
premises,

and 3.2% used other types of technology including satellite, terrestrial
fixed or mobile wireless (on a licensed or unlicensed basis), and 
electric

power line.



3)  Geographic Coverage



*  As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL
connections were available to 79% of the households to whom incumbent 
LECs

could provide local telephone service as of June 30, 2006, and that
high-speed cable modem 

RE: [WISPA] Fw: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!

2007-01-31 Thread Mike Delp
Had to search all over the site to find the dates of the show.  Feb 27, 28.
You think they would advertise the dates more.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:09 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Fw: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!

For anyone interested in going.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Fawson 
To: 'Greg Fawson' 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!


Friends and Colleagues,

 

The IPTV 2007 Technology Conference agenda is now final!  

 

Be sure to go online to check out all the new additions and the full agenda
with titles and abstracts for each session. (For reference, we've included
the full agenda below)  With so many new additions in the past two weeks,
we've decided to extend the early-bird registration rate to accommodate
those who have been waiting for the final agenda to be published.  We're
looking forward to one of the most important and comprehensive conferences
on deploying IPTV services.  This is truly a can't miss event to kick off
2007!

 

Register Now: www.s2data.com/iptv2007/register.htm

 

Check out the final agenda with these new additions!

· Jeff Spagnola, Vice President, Worldwide Service Provider Business
Cisco

 

New Sessions:

· Creating a Content Delivery Path to the Home

· Access Network Architectures: Video Transport Network: Building
the Business Case for Video Services

· Codec Wars 2.0 - This Time, It's Personal

 

Consolidated Final Agenda

 

Keynote:

IPTV - Driving Discontinuities in the TV Experience

Peter Barrett, Chief Technology Office and General Manager of Engineering -
Microsoft TV

 

Keynote

Jeff Spagnola, Vice President, Worldwide Service Provider Business - Cisco

 

Telco Operator Panel Discussion

The Need For Triple-Play: IPTV From the Carrier's Perspective

Claas Heise - T-Ventures (Deutsche Telekom)

Sean Crawford - France Telecom Labs

Vernon Reed - ATT

 

 

Gaining a Competitive Edge in Consumer Digital Service Strategies

Dr. Ken Morse, Vice President Client Architecture - Scientific Atlanta, A
Cisco Company

 

Deployment Challenges For an IPTV Solution

Geeta Chaudhary, Director of IP Video Solutions - Lucent Worldwide Services

 

Delivering Mainstream Entertainment Over Powerlines

Chano Gomez, VP Technology and Strategic Partnerships - DS2

 

Making Triple Play Mainstream Business - 13 Weeks to Video

Steve Klein, Director Video Solutions - Zhone Technologies, Inc.

 

Maintaining QoE in Triple Play Networks

Joe Haver, Wireline Program Manager -Agilent Technologies' Assurance
Solutions Division

 

Hybrid STB and the Migration to IPTV

Keri Waters, Sr. Director, Strategic Marketing - Micronas

 

Making the Business Case for Delivering IPTV Services: Solving the Home
Networking Conundrum

Steve McKay, CEO - Entone

 

BREAKING DOWN THE WALLED GARDEN - Anywhere, Anytime Media Access Within the
Home

Frank Galuppo, President, CEO, and Director of Amedia Networks, Inc

 

Evaluating Home Networking Technologies

Vernon Reed, Principal Member of Technical Staff - Video   Home Networking
ATT Labs Inc. 

 

Digital Content Monitoring: Assuring a Flawless IPTV User Experience

Eric Conley, CEO - Mixed Signals.

 

Interactivity and the IPTV Experience 

Jonathan Symonds, Vice President - TANDBERG Television

 

The Best Medium for Distributing Video Throughout the Home Already Exists

John Graham, Vice President - Entropic Communications 

 

Ways to Solve the IPTV Packet Loss and Delay Conundrum

Dr. Deepak Kataria, Systems Integration Manager - Agere Systems

 

Creating a Content Delivery Path to the Home

Eric Free, Senior Vice President and General Manager Hardware Licensing
Group - Macrovision

 

Beyond 802.11n: A Real-world Look at How Service Providers are Solving the
Last 100 Feet Problem with WiFi

Rob Mustarde, Vice President - Ruckus Wireless

 

Successfully Implementing IPTV Middleware to Your Existing OSS and Billing
Systems 

Frank Gine, Vice President, Sales and Marketing - ETI Software

 

Features of Today's Leading IPTV Multimedia Home Networking Technology

Richard Nesin, VP Marketing - Coppergate Communications

 

IPTV: A Look Forward

Rick Sailor, VP Americas - Amino Communications LLC

 

Make or Break? The Power of the User Interface on Entertainment Devices and
Services 

Simon Woodward, CEO - ANT

 

Home Networking and IPTV - A Happy Marriage

Steve Oetegenn, EVP of Global Sales  Marketing - Verimatrix

 

Making VOD a reality for IPTV: Challenges and Solutions

Sandeep Gupte,  Director of Product Marketing - Modulus Video

 

The New Generation of On Demand TV

Safi U. Qureshey, Chairman  CEO - Quartics, Inc.

 

Codec Wars 2.0 - This Time, It's Personal

Jeremy Hendy, Vice President - Aspex

 

Deepening the Impact of Marketing Through Interactivity and 

Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Nash
Anyone have a solution for connecting a PDA to the PoE CPE to program it 
w/web browser?


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm


Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 (Has 
built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check email 
and so on. Also can use skype.


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
skype cajeptha



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
The palms are so danged expensive.  And I tend to break phones often when 
out in the field.


If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has 
better coverage and/or prices.  We just moved away from Cingular and the 
problems are around the same but coverage is better and the costs are 
lower.  AND the support of a local company has been wonderful!  Walk into 
the store and the same people are there month after month, they know my 
name etc.


Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the average guy.  Those that need 
network access to your gear could use the palms.


I'm looking for a palm or Q phone as soon as I can afford one.  Typing 
even short emails on a standard phone sucks.  And it would be cool to do 
some network stuff via a cell phone from time to time.  I'm not always in 
range of my own towers.  At least not with a laptop.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm


My cell plan for my office is due next month. Currently, we only have
voice plans.

However, I am considering adding data for a few of my employees to be
able to use email.

I have the option of Blackberry and Palm phones. For those of you that
have compares each, which solution would you recommend and why.

Thanks,
Cliff LeBoeuf
www.cssla.com
www.triparish.net

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