[WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment
Did a little arithmetic tonight... I have a Tranzeo TR5plus access point on my wireless network. Other than being limited by a 10meg ethernet port (it is installed at a noisy FM tower location, and the speed must be turned down to 10meg to keep a reliable connection) - it is a perfectly standard setup. It is hooked up to a 16db H-pol 90 degree sector, and customer ranges are 1 mile to 26 miles. The majority of these customers are on a 1meg plan, with a few 2meg and one 8meg in the mix. This access point has 85 associations on it. Of those 85, two are repeater sites. One has 35 additional customers on it, and the other has 8. Add them all up, and this one AP is passing traffic for almost 130 customers. I see it peak around 6 meg sustained download (4 meg or so sustained upload) and if I run a speed test at my house (which is one of the customers off this access point) I can pull 8meg back to my NOC. Anyone who says that 802.11a gear won't scale is full of it. I'd like to see a Canopy based system that would even come close to delivering that kind of performance. I'm planning to deploy 5ghz gear to as many of my AP locations as possible this year. The money spent on that access point is probably the best money I've spent on wireless gear since I started my current WISP. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
It's that same 'small thinking' owner that kept a national ISP group from ever being successful. The cable and TV industry love it when we are fragmented without a single focus. That is why WISPA is so special. Yeah we all do thing are own way but we can pretty much agree that turning money down over pride is a sign of a small mind. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. I wish it were that way for me. I called a competitor once, as I had a $500/month account. All I could see was the tower they're on. Called them, told em I'd pay them $250 / month for the account ( I know they charge a lot more than that... ) since I'd manage the customer, etc. They hung up on me. I called back to talk to the owner and was rudely told, even by him, that they would not support their competitors. hah. I hooked the customer up with a cable modem, and I paid for the line so I could run an AP off his roof with now 12 customers from there. One of the other customers could see my stuff, so I use the cable line as a backup now. :) Oh, the competitor left that tower, too... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh? I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due to trees etc. While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors. A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him. Got the customer up and running. My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit from the customer, and the customer has service. A great day all around! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
This is an example of Part-15 rules been broken, this has been going on for years ant they recently fined, http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-269874A1.html Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced!
IPTV is such a losing proposition. At 4MB to 10MB per stream, how do you make $$? And most homes have more than one TV - so doouble or triple it. The content costs keep increasing - at the same time that episodes are available for download. The equipment is ridiculously expensive. Scale IS required. I just don't understand the focus on it. TV is a static market. You have to steal from someone else's pie to make money. Small MSO's are getting beat by DBS, because the cost to upgrade the head-end and cabling is too expensive to re-coup. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. (813) 963-5884 Mike Delp wrote: Had to search all over the site to find the dates of the show. Feb 27, 28. You think they would advertise the dates more. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fw: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced! For anyone interested in going. marlon - Original Message - From: Greg Fawson To: 'Greg Fawson' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: IPTV 2007 Final Agenda Announced! Friends and Colleagues, The IPTV 2007 Technology Conference agenda is now final! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of Part-15 rules been broken, this has been going on for years ant they recently fined, http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-269874A1.html So they were running out-of-band AND over-power at 71 sites for 5 years, and they're getting off with a fine for $20k? Sounds like a pretty light fine to me. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
Yeah ... but they got the bad press.. . Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of Part-15 rules been broken, this has been going on for years ant they recently fined, http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-269874A1.html So they were running out-of-band AND over-power at 71 sites for 5 years, and they're getting off with a fine for $20k? Sounds like a pretty light fine to me. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
True .. Are you seeing subscribers turn over from them to you? Did it make the press in PR such that the average subscriber would actually know about it? On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah ... but they got the bad press.. . Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
This just hit the press today... but I wouldt count of subscribers noticing it much Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... True .. Are you seeing subscribers turn over from them to you? Did it make the press in PR such that the average subscriber would actually know about it? On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah ... but they got the bad press.. . Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
And now when they have an outage, the customer will call you and what will you tell them? u... well it's not really my network, so I'm not really sure what the problem is or when it will be fixed. :( Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh? I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due to trees etc. While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors. A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him. Got the customer up and running. My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit from the customer, and the customer has service. A great day all around! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
That's the way we felt after the last ISPCON...just wish everyone from out company could have been there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment
what antenna are you using at the ap? what are you using for customers past 15 miles? marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment Did a little arithmetic tonight... I have a Tranzeo TR5plus access point on my wireless network. Other than being limited by a 10meg ethernet port (it is installed at a noisy FM tower location, and the speed must be turned down to 10meg to keep a reliable connection) - it is a perfectly standard setup. It is hooked up to a 16db H-pol 90 degree sector, and customer ranges are 1 mile to 26 miles. The majority of these customers are on a 1meg plan, with a few 2meg and one 8meg in the mix. This access point has 85 associations on it. Of those 85, two are repeater sites. One has 35 additional customers on it, and the other has 8. Add them all up, and this one AP is passing traffic for almost 130 customers. I see it peak around 6 meg sustained download (4 meg or so sustained upload) and if I run a speed test at my house (which is one of the customers off this access point) I can pull 8meg back to my NOC. Anyone who says that 802.11a gear won't scale is full of it. I'd like to see a Canopy based system that would even come close to delivering that kind of performance. I'm planning to deploy 5ghz gear to as many of my AP locations as possible this year. The money spent on that access point is probably the best money I've spent on wireless gear since I started my current WISP. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
Section 15.1(b) of the Rules states that an intentional radiator that is not in accordance with the requirements of Part 15 must be licensed, Is there and what is the licensing policy for UNII band? what is co-channel MSS operations?-indicated as a reason why 5.1Ghz is only allowed indoors to prevent interferrence with it. It sounds like this is a black eye for Axxelera as well as Neptune. Maybe Axxelera should share paying the fine? Wonder what about Axxelera didn't allow it to comply? The ISP adding their own antennas? Or just not having variable power settings? Was the gear non-compliant jsut for 5.3 and 5.1, and compliant for 5.8G? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of Part-15 rules been broken, this has been going on for years ant they recently fined, http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-269874A1.html So they were running out-of-band AND over-power at 71 sites for 5 years, and they're getting off with a fine for $20k? Sounds like a pretty light fine to me. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
Nope. We'll tell them that we're working on it. What do you tell people when your t-1 goes down I'm getting $15 per month that I'd have had to pass up. If I work with my competitors in a friendly manner, I effectively build a MUCH larger network, for less money AND I help to keep the spectrum that much cleaner. We also sell access on our network to any of our competitors that want/need it. Well all but one of them can buy access from us. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day And now when they have an outage, the customer will call you and what will you tell them? u... well it's not really my network, so I'm not really sure what the problem is or when it will be fixed. :( Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh? I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due to trees etc. While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors. A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him. Got the customer up and running. My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit from the customer, and the customer has service. A great day all around! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
Well that depends how noisy the 5.3 and 5.8 bands are that the custoemrs got turned to. Even worse news if you are using 5.3 and 5.8. That means there is likely going to be an interference war, customers' quality of service is going to go down. It could result in multiple WISPs loosing customers, IF CUSTOMERS have non-wireless options. These are the things that create doubt in customer's minds. Not necessarilly the details of the violation, but the never knowing when there could be an interference problem effecting QOS. I'd argue that Neptune network's illegal use of spectrum, prevented interference for unlicensed broadband in PR. If someone were to break the rules, I'd rather them broadcast in 5.1G, than in 5.3G at overpowered levels. Exceeding power limts, creates interference for the legal competitors. Broadcasting at 5.1, just causes liabilty for the law breaker. That statement is being made assuming that he was not causing 5.1G interference with other legal 5.1G licensed users. So are the legal licenced holder's currently actively using 5.1Ghz? I'm in no way condoning illegal use of spectrum, I'm just discussing the severity of the violation, and the severity of a violation should effect the fine that is imposed for inforcement. For example someone who breaks the law, as a defenses measure to temporarilly get their subscribers up, after interference took them down on their intial legal channels, should be treated more leaniently than a gross abuser. In Neptune's case, it was a clear planned violation at a large number of sites for a long amount of time. I'd argue that that case was a gross abuser, and required little leaniency. But I'd have to argue that $20,000 is a pretty cheap fine and leanient, to more or less operate like they have a license for 5 years. Neptune was clearly a winner in that event. But I think the FCC was leanient in this case, because Neptune immediately conformed on request. I'm pretty sure Neptune could have been given a $10,000 fine per site, if the FCC really wanted to be nasty. But its a difficult thing though, when ISPs are serving the underserved. If the WISP is fined to heavilly, they go out of business and consumers suffer (Schools, hospitols, Students, etc). So I think the FCC is sending a warning to the industry on this one. Get legal, or it could get ugly. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... This just hit the press today... but I wouldt count of subscribers noticing it much Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... True .. Are you seeing subscribers turn over from them to you? Did it make the press in PR such that the average subscriber would actually know about it? On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah ... but they got the bad press.. . Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
The wisp was using stock Axxelera gear, the problem was the channels used were either 5.1 (which is unii indoor only ) or non part 15 at all. Im under the impression that the Axxelera gear doesn't have a way to control power Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... Section 15.1(b) of the Rules states that an intentional radiator that is not in accordance with the requirements of Part 15 must be licensed, Is there and what is the licensing policy for UNII band? what is co-channel MSS operations?-indicated as a reason why 5.1Ghz is only allowed indoors to prevent interferrence with it. It sounds like this is a black eye for Axxelera as well as Neptune. Maybe Axxelera should share paying the fine? Wonder what about Axxelera didn't allow it to comply? The ISP adding their own antennas? Or just not having variable power settings? Was the gear non-compliant jsut for 5.3 and 5.1, and compliant for 5.8G? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an example of Part-15 rules been broken, this has been going on for years ant they recently fined, http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-269874A1.html So they were running out-of-band AND over-power at 71 sites for 5 years, and they're getting off with a fine for $20k? Sounds like a pretty light fine to me. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
It's not clear at all if they have fully complied, the investigation was last summer were we started seeing interference problems on the site under investigation... the interference later disappeared go figure Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... Well that depends how noisy the 5.3 and 5.8 bands are that the custoemrs got turned to. Even worse news if you are using 5.3 and 5.8. That means there is likely going to be an interference war, customers' quality of service is going to go down. It could result in multiple WISPs loosing customers, IF CUSTOMERS have non-wireless options. These are the things that create doubt in customer's minds. Not necessarilly the details of the violation, but the never knowing when there could be an interference problem effecting QOS. I'd argue that Neptune network's illegal use of spectrum, prevented interference for unlicensed broadband in PR. If someone were to break the rules, I'd rather them broadcast in 5.1G, than in 5.3G at overpowered levels. Exceeding power limts, creates interference for the legal competitors. Broadcasting at 5.1, just causes liabilty for the law breaker. That statement is being made assuming that he was not causing 5.1G interference with other legal 5.1G licensed users. So are the legal licenced holder's currently actively using 5.1Ghz? I'm in no way condoning illegal use of spectrum, I'm just discussing the severity of the violation, and the severity of a violation should effect the fine that is imposed for inforcement. For example someone who breaks the law, as a defenses measure to temporarilly get their subscribers up, after interference took them down on their intial legal channels, should be treated more leaniently than a gross abuser. In Neptune's case, it was a clear planned violation at a large number of sites for a long amount of time. I'd argue that that case was a gross abuser, and required little leaniency. But I'd have to argue that $20,000 is a pretty cheap fine and leanient, to more or less operate like they have a license for 5 years. Neptune was clearly a winner in that event. But I think the FCC was leanient in this case, because Neptune immediately conformed on request. I'm pretty sure Neptune could have been given a $10,000 fine per site, if the FCC really wanted to be nasty. But its a difficult thing though, when ISPs are serving the underserved. If the WISP is fined to heavilly, they go out of business and consumers suffer (Schools, hospitols, Students, etc). So I think the FCC is sending a warning to the industry on this one. Get legal, or it could get ugly. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... This just hit the press today... but I wouldt count of subscribers noticing it much Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... True .. Are you seeing subscribers turn over from them to you? Did it make the press in PR such that the average subscriber would actually know about it? On 2/1/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah ... but they got the bad press.. . Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
Marlon, We don't sell T1's any longer. We install our own wireless thus keeping control of the entire connection. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Nope. We'll tell them that we're working on it. What do you tell people when your t-1 goes down I'm getting $15 per month that I'd have had to pass up. If I work with my competitors in a friendly manner, I effectively build a MUCH larger network, for less money AND I help to keep the spectrum that much cleaner. We also sell access on our network to any of our competitors that want/need it. Well all but one of them can buy access from us. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day And now when they have an outage, the customer will call you and what will you tell them? u... well it's not really my network, so I'm not really sure what the problem is or when it will be fixed. :( Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh? I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due to trees etc. While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors. A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him. Got the customer up and running. My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit from the customer, and the customer has service. A great day all around! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
I had a Palm phone. The draw back is occationally they loose their internal battery power the the Flash, and you loose all the software and configs loaded. So its hard to rely on anything you put on it, and must rely on the Sync to destop for data retention. Do any of the hand helds, have rock solid storage systems, that are near impossible to wipe out? Such as Compact Flash or HardDisk? I LOVE my Sprint Phone. It has taken more abuse than any device on earth should be capable of taking, and keeps ticking. (dropped off a tower at 200 ft, Caught up in a Car Wheel well (wrapped around front wheel drive shaft) and driven 20 miles). And the Voice quality is the BEST or most consistent of any service that I've used in DC, based on attempting to communicate with Field techs with their various phone service provider brands. Where the Sprint falls short is Internet Access and messaging. We were never able to figure out how to pass data into the needed messaging field correctly, and it does not have full Internet Access for remote anywhere access to do critical low bandwidth things like remote access to reboot radios. The Cingular on the other hand, had crappy voice, but we get meaningful easilly to check alerting, and Instant Internet access adequate for low bandwidth usage. As much as I hate to leave Sprint after 10 years, I may have to change to Cingular, or get an EVDO portable device. I never really understood the Blackberry thing. But what I will say is that every executive that uses a Blackberry, that I do business with, has excellent and timely communication with me. I don't believe in cooincidences. There is something uniquely advantages about the Blackberry other than just its exchange integration. But I have not put my finger on what it is. I've avoided the srpint change because my hearing is so bad, and the Sprint makes all the difference. But in todays generation, as an IT company we can not ignore the mobile broadband advantage. I still believe that for the average consumer, portal broadband is unnecessary. But for support personelle and mobile work force, it is a REAL big time and money saver. Technology is the secret to response time. Plus Sprint's evil billing practices have been getting annoying recently. But then again, Sprint's unlimited Text Messaging doesn't send me random $400 Text message bills like Cincular had the ability to do from time to time. (I think they charged per page, We had to change all our Alerting to be several lines, because the full report took 3 screens and trippled our bills). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Anyone have a solution for connecting a PDA to the PoE CPE to program it w/web browser? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 (Has built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check email and so on. Also can use skype. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: The palms are so danged expensive. And I tend to break phones often when out in the field. If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has better coverage and/or prices. We just moved away from Cingular and the problems are around the same but coverage is better and the costs are lower. AND the support of a local company has been wonderful! Walk into the store and the same people are there month after month, they know my name etc. Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the average guy. Those that need network access to your gear could use the palms. I'm looking for a palm or Q phone as soon as I can afford one. Typing even short emails on a standard phone sucks. And it would be cool to do some network stuff via a cell phone from time to time. I'm not always in range of my own towers. At least not with a laptop. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:29 AM
Re: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment
The AP is a 5plus, with a 90 degree 16db H-pol sector. I use the SL5 (16db) up to about 5 miles, 5a20 up to 10 miles, 5a24 8 to 18 miles and 5plus with 26db grid up to 25 miles. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what antenna are you using at the ap? what are you using for customers past 15 miles? marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment Did a little arithmetic tonight... I have a Tranzeo TR5plus access point on my wireless network. Other than being limited by a 10meg ethernet port (it is installed at a noisy FM tower location, and the speed must be turned down to 10meg to keep a reliable connection) - it is a perfectly standard setup. It is hooked up to a 16db H-pol 90 degree sector, and customer ranges are 1 mile to 26 miles. The majority of these customers are on a 1meg plan, with a few 2meg and one 8meg in the mix. This access point has 85 associations on it. Of those 85, two are repeater sites. One has 35 additional customers on it, and the other has 8. Add them all up, and this one AP is passing traffic for almost 130 customers. I see it peak around 6 meg sustained download (4 meg or so sustained upload) and if I run a speed test at my house (which is one of the customers off this access point) I can pull 8meg back to my NOC. Anyone who says that 802.11a gear won't scale is full of it. I'd like to see a Canopy based system that would even come close to delivering that kind of performance. I'm planning to deploy 5ghz gear to as many of my AP locations as possible this year. The money spent on that access point is probably the best money I've spent on wireless gear since I started my current WISP. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day
You know that's not what I meant Travis! grin Back when you bought a t-1 for your service, way back when. Sometimes it went down. What did you tell your customers? This is really no different. And the benefits from a cost, spectrum, speed of deployment far outweigh any problems that we have. I already work with this guy on other projects and things have gone well. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Marlon, We don't sell T1's any longer. We install our own wireless thus keeping control of the entire connection. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Nope. We'll tell them that we're working on it. What do you tell people when your t-1 goes down I'm getting $15 per month that I'd have had to pass up. If I work with my competitors in a friendly manner, I effectively build a MUCH larger network, for less money AND I help to keep the spectrum that much cleaner. We also sell access on our network to any of our competitors that want/need it. Well all but one of them can buy access from us. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Refreshing Day And now when they have an outage, the customer will call you and what will you tell them? u... well it's not really my network, so I'm not really sure what the problem is or when it will be fixed. :( Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, a guy needs days like that once in a while eh? I went to do an install today and found that I couldn't hit the customer due to trees etc. While up on the roof I noticed that one of the dozen or so ap's I was picking up belonged to one of my competitors. A quick phone call later and I had an IP addy from him. Got the customer up and running. My competitor will make some money from me, I'll get a bit from the customer, and the customer has service. A great day all around! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Refreshing Day Well it was 10 degrees above zero this afternoon here in northern Indiana. We have been having an issue on one particular tower and after changing the base station equipment a couple times in the last few days, I decided to get out from behind a desk and go out to some customer locations that were still having issues. Turned out to be some minor tweaking of settings but it gave me a chance to interface with some customers face to face. It was very refreshing to hear compliments about our service and many thanks for bringing broadband out into the rural areas. These were a few customers that had very little service in the last few days. I almost feel like I should make each member of my staff go do this at least once a month. It really gives a guy a renewed appreciation of why we do what we do. Eight years ago when we started this, it was very apparent. Lately it seems like most people expect service anywhere they are and at a very cheap price. Normal phone conversations seem to leave me with a bad guy impression. Too Much, not fast enough, whaddya mean, I can't get service, TWO YEAR CONTRACT, no way!. Well today, shaking people's hands and seeing the smile on their face when everything was fixed and back to normal, takes all that away. Heck, I think I was happier than they were. My last service call was to a gentleman I have known for 20 years from a distance. He called late in the afternoon and said he couldn't get logged on and that our installer had been there today to replace a radio. He was so complimentary on the phone about the quality work and attitude of the installer and the rest of my staff, so I called my wife and told her I would be home in about an hour. I drove 15 miles out of town and fixed the issue rather quickly. Same IP address, different radio MAC addresstower needed a reboot to get rid of the arp issue. I guess I could have done that from the office but this one seemed like it was better handled face to face. The customer was off to church as soon as I left his house and I'm sure that he probably told all his friends about our service and my fine staff. Some people just value the local support a WISP is willing to give to its customers. It's not all about price, service like this makes customers for life, no matter how cheap they can buy it from somewhere else. Oh yeah, I also backed into his mailbox on the way out the driveway. You know, it didn't even bother him.I'll fix that right up tomorrow, you go on home now :-) Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc.
Re: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment
coolness - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment The AP is a 5plus, with a 90 degree 16db H-pol sector. I use the SL5 (16db) up to about 5 miles, 5a20 up to 10 miles, 5a24 8 to 18 miles and 5plus with 26db grid up to 25 miles. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Marlon K. Schafer wrote: what antenna are you using at the ap? what are you using for customers past 15 miles? marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] Scalability of 802.11a based broadband equipment Did a little arithmetic tonight... I have a Tranzeo TR5plus access point on my wireless network. Other than being limited by a 10meg ethernet port (it is installed at a noisy FM tower location, and the speed must be turned down to 10meg to keep a reliable connection) - it is a perfectly standard setup. It is hooked up to a 16db H-pol 90 degree sector, and customer ranges are 1 mile to 26 miles. The majority of these customers are on a 1meg plan, with a few 2meg and one 8meg in the mix. This access point has 85 associations on it. Of those 85, two are repeater sites. One has 35 additional customers on it, and the other has 8. Add them all up, and this one AP is passing traffic for almost 130 customers. I see it peak around 6 meg sustained download (4 meg or so sustained upload) and if I run a speed test at my house (which is one of the customers off this access point) I can pull 8meg back to my NOC. Anyone who says that 802.11a gear won't scale is full of it. I'd like to see a Canopy based system that would even come close to delivering that kind of performance. I'm planning to deploy 5ghz gear to as many of my AP locations as possible this year. The money spent on that access point is probably the best money I've spent on wireless gear since I started my current WISP. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
I use the Sprint 6700 Pocket PC Windows based smartphone and I can connect to almost everything through cell EVDO - X1 data, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi (802.11 B/G) and it can receive email and IMs in the background. I can watch TV on it from my Slingbox located at my home, keep up with info from the Web and it has 1 gig SD card for backup, etc. Plus, I leave a little room on the card for a few of my country music tunes (grin) Dave David T. Hughes Director, Corporate Communications Roadstar Internet Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell(703) 587-3282 Home (703) 234-9969 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm I had a Palm phone. The draw back is occationally they loose their internal battery power the the Flash, and you loose all the software and configs loaded. So its hard to rely on anything you put on it, and must rely on the Sync to destop for data retention. Do any of the hand helds, have rock solid storage systems, that are near impossible to wipe out? Such as Compact Flash or HardDisk? I LOVE my Sprint Phone. It has taken more abuse than any device on earth should be capable of taking, and keeps ticking. (dropped off a tower at 200 ft, Caught up in a Car Wheel well (wrapped around front wheel drive shaft) and driven 20 miles). And the Voice quality is the BEST or most consistent of any service that I've used in DC, based on attempting to communicate with Field techs with their various phone service provider brands. Where the Sprint falls short is Internet Access and messaging. We were never able to figure out how to pass data into the needed messaging field correctly, and it does not have full Internet Access for remote anywhere access to do critical low bandwidth things like remote access to reboot radios. The Cingular on the other hand, had crappy voice, but we get meaningful easilly to check alerting, and Instant Internet access adequate for low bandwidth usage. As much as I hate to leave Sprint after 10 years, I may have to change to Cingular, or get an EVDO portable device. I never really understood the Blackberry thing. But what I will say is that every executive that uses a Blackberry, that I do business with, has excellent and timely communication with me. I don't believe in cooincidences. There is something uniquely advantages about the Blackberry other than just its exchange integration. But I have not put my finger on what it is. I've avoided the srpint change because my hearing is so bad, and the Sprint makes all the difference. But in todays generation, as an IT company we can not ignore the mobile broadband advantage. I still believe that for the average consumer, portal broadband is unnecessary. But for support personelle and mobile work force, it is a REAL big time and money saver. Technology is the secret to response time. Plus Sprint's evil billing practices have been getting annoying recently. But then again, Sprint's unlimited Text Messaging doesn't send me random $400 Text message bills like Cincular had the ability to do from time to time. (I think they charged per page, We had to change all our Alerting to be several lines, because the full report took 3 screens and trippled our bills). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Anyone have a solution for connecting a PDA to the PoE CPE to program it w/web browser? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 (Has built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check email and so on. Also can use skype. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: The palms are so danged expensive. And I tend to break phones often when out in the field. If it were me, I'd FIRST look around to see if anyone in the area has better coverage and/or prices. We just moved away from Cingular and the problems are around the same but coverage is better and the costs are lower. AND the support of a local company has been wonderful! Walk into the store and the same people are there month after month, they know my name etc. Next, I'd probably do blackberrys for the
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
Are you saying that it was you who reported them to the FCC? If so, had you tried working it out with them first or ? Gino Villarini wrote: It's not clear at all if they have fully complied, the investigation was last summer were we started seeing interference problems on the site under investigation... the interference later disappeared go figure Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC considers treating wireless broadband as an 'information service'
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070201/FREE/70201010/100 1/FREE This applies to the licensed spectrum holders but could be interesting to unlicensed as it might make life easier for carriers like Clearwire and shape the field for competition. A topic worth watching I am sure. I can see a push for more VOIP/Cellular type systems to get around regulatory rules and brand it as an information service rather than a mobile phone system Thank You, Brian Webster -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
Nop, it wasn't me, Another local wisp reported them. The docs are on the FCC website Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:01 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ... Are you saying that it was you who reported them to the FCC? If so, had you tried working it out with them first or ? Gino Villarini wrote: It's not clear at all if they have fully complied, the investigation was last summer were we started seeing interference problems on the site under investigation... the interference later disappeared go figure Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Martin vs. Copps at Senate
I only read the B.S. from Harry Potter about how wonderful things are with him large and in charge. Then I read Copps' statement :) WRITTEN STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE KEVIN J. MARTIN, CHAIRMAN, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION. Before the Committee on Commerce, Science Transportation, U.S. Senate by Testimony. OCM http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270192A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270192A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270192A1.txt TESTIMONY OF FCC COMMISSIONER MICHAEL J. COPPS, COMMISSIONER, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION, HEARING ON ACCESSING THE COMMUNICATIONS MARKETPLACE. Before the Committee on Commerce, Science Transportation, U.S. Senate by Testimony. CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270194A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270194A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270194A1.txt STATEMENT OF JONATHAN S. ADELSTEIN, COMMISSIONER, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION. Before the Committee on Commerce, Science Transportation, U.S. Senate by Testimony. CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270200A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270200A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270200A1.txt WRITTEN STATEMENT OF DEBORAH TAYLOR TATE, COMMISSIONER, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION ON ASSESSING THE COMMUNICATIONS MARKETPLACE: A VIEW FROM THE FCC. Before the Committee on Commerce, Science Transportation, U.S. Senate by Testimony. CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270198A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270198A1.txt STATEMENT OF COMMISSIONER ROBERT M. MCDOWELL, FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION. Before the Committee on Commerce, Science Transportation, U.S. Senate by Testimony. CMMR http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270199A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-270199A1.txt -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] M2Z - 2155-2175 MHZ NATIONAL BROADBAND RADIO SERVICE
Released: 01/31/2007. WTB ANNOUNCES THAT M2Z NETWORKS, INC.'S APPLICATION FOR LICENSE AND AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A NATIONAL BROADBAND RADIO SERVICE IN THE 2155-2175 MHZ BAND IS ACCEPTED FOR FILING. (DA No. 07-492). (Dkt No 07-16). WTB. Contact: Joel Taubenblatt at (202) 418-2487, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.txt -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC considers treating wireless broadband as an 'information service'
Brian Webster wrote: http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070201/FREE/70201010/100 1/FREE This applies to the licensed spectrum holders but could be interesting to unlicensed as it might make life easier for carriers like Clearwire and shape the field for competition. A topic worth watching I am sure. I can see a push for more VOIP/Cellular type systems to get around regulatory rules and brand it as an information service rather than a mobile phone system Thank You, Brian Webster On the VOIP/Cellular front -- it is about Inter-Carrier Compensation. A fight that will get bloody this year. VOIP is a packet; cellular is a minute. How do you compensate each carrier for it? -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] M2Z - 2155-2175 MHZ NATIONAL BROADBAND RADIO SERVICE
And who's equipment will they use? -RickG On 2/1/07, Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Released: 01/31/2007. WTB ANNOUNCES THAT M2Z NETWORKS, INC.'S APPLICATION FOR LICENSE AND AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE A NATIONAL BROADBAND RADIO SERVICE IN THE 2155-2175 MHZ BAND IS ACCEPTED FOR FILING. (DA No. 07-492). (Dkt No 07-16). WTB. Contact: Joel Taubenblatt at (202) 418-2487, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.doc http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-492A1.txt -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Local WISP Fined by FCC ...
If memory serves, MSS is Mobile Satellite Service. Like many vendors, Axxcelera makes gear that is flexible in its frequency coverage and power output. MANY countries allow higher power outputs than US, as well as different spectrum usage. It's certainly not illegal to manufacture such devices. But with Part 15 systems, it's the responsibility of the USER to insure that such equipment is being used properly, and in this case, the WISP wasn't doing so, having selected parameters that were not in accordance with US FCC Part 15.547 rules. I also think they got off easy with a $20,000 fine. Their entire network could have been summarily shut down if the FCC felt that they were causing interference with a licensed service, not to mention that the FCC can request arrest and forfeiture of offenders. Thanks, Steve On Feb 1, 2007, at Feb 1 07:32 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: Section 15.1(b) of the Rules states that an intentional radiator that is not in accordance with the requirements of Part 15 must be licensed, Is there and what is the licensing policy for UNII band? what is co-channel MSS operations?-indicated as a reason why 5.1Ghz is only allowed indoors to prevent interferrence with it. It sounds like this is a black eye for Axxelera as well as Neptune. Maybe Axxelera should share paying the fine? Wonder what about Axxelera didn't allow it to comply? The ISP adding their own antennas? Or just not having variable power settings? Was the gear non-compliant jsut for 5.3 and 5.1, and compliant for 5.8G? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
Sounds like that may be the way to go. almost everything through cell EVDO - X1 data Is that a Sprint plan option? Or through another carrier's service? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David T. Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm I use the Sprint 6700 Pocket PC Windows based smartphone and I can connect to almost everything through cell EVDO - X1 data, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi (802.11 B/G) and it can receive email and IMs in the background. I can watch TV on it from my Slingbox located at my home, keep up with info from the Web and it has 1 gig SD card for backup, etc. Plus, I leave a little room on the card for a few of my country music tunes (grin) Dave David T. Hughes Director, Corporate Communications Roadstar Internet Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell(703) 587-3282 Home (703) 234-9969 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm I had a Palm phone. The draw back is occationally they loose their internal battery power the the Flash, and you loose all the software and configs loaded. So its hard to rely on anything you put on it, and must rely on the Sync to destop for data retention. Do any of the hand helds, have rock solid storage systems, that are near impossible to wipe out? Such as Compact Flash or HardDisk? I LOVE my Sprint Phone. It has taken more abuse than any device on earth should be capable of taking, and keeps ticking. (dropped off a tower at 200 ft, Caught up in a Car Wheel well (wrapped around front wheel drive shaft) and driven 20 miles). And the Voice quality is the BEST or most consistent of any service that I've used in DC, based on attempting to communicate with Field techs with their various phone service provider brands. Where the Sprint falls short is Internet Access and messaging. We were never able to figure out how to pass data into the needed messaging field correctly, and it does not have full Internet Access for remote anywhere access to do critical low bandwidth things like remote access to reboot radios. The Cingular on the other hand, had crappy voice, but we get meaningful easilly to check alerting, and Instant Internet access adequate for low bandwidth usage. As much as I hate to leave Sprint after 10 years, I may have to change to Cingular, or get an EVDO portable device. I never really understood the Blackberry thing. But what I will say is that every executive that uses a Blackberry, that I do business with, has excellent and timely communication with me. I don't believe in cooincidences. There is something uniquely advantages about the Blackberry other than just its exchange integration. But I have not put my finger on what it is. I've avoided the srpint change because my hearing is so bad, and the Sprint makes all the difference. But in todays generation, as an IT company we can not ignore the mobile broadband advantage. I still believe that for the average consumer, portal broadband is unnecessary. But for support personelle and mobile work force, it is a REAL big time and money saver. Technology is the secret to response time. Plus Sprint's evil billing practices have been getting annoying recently. But then again, Sprint's unlimited Text Messaging doesn't send me random $400 Text message bills like Cincular had the ability to do from time to time. (I think they charged per page, We had to change all our Alerting to be several lines, because the full report took 3 screens and trippled our bills). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Anyone have a solution for connecting a PDA to the PoE CPE to program it w/web browser? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Try an HP IPAQ 6515 (I have this one, with and sd wifi card) and 6900 (Has built-in wifi). With licensed Opera I can program my radios. Check email and so on. Also can use skype. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: The palms are so danged expensive. And I tend to break phones often when out in the field. If it were me, I'd FIRST
Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm
No, EVDO and RTT1X are the data modulations that the PPC6700 can do, which the Sprint network supports. The Sprint option plan for data is called PowerVision, and includes unlimited internet to the phone ... pretty sweet, and for only a few dollars a month over the phone service. With PowerVision I don't think you're supposed to use it tethered to your PC ... they sell separate packages for EVDO PCMCIA cards. But with the original installed Windows Mobile (don't download the sprint provided OS update) I can run dial-up network thru the phone via USB cable or bluetooth. However, I find the PPC6700 big display slide-out keyboard sufficient for daily use. Thanks to you David for the clue that there was a windows mobile version of Slingbox player. Didn't know that. Loaded it up and it's great! Rich - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm Sounds like that may be the way to go. almost everything through cell EVDO - X1 data Is that a Sprint plan option? Or through another carrier's service? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David T. Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm I use the Sprint 6700 Pocket PC Windows based smartphone and I can connect to almost everything through cell EVDO - X1 data, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi (802.11 B/G) and it can receive email and IMs in the background. I can watch TV on it from my Slingbox located at my home, keep up with info from the Web and it has 1 gig SD card for backup, etc. Plus, I leave a little room on the card for a few of my country music tunes (grin) Dave David T. Hughes Director, Corporate Communications Roadstar Internet Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell(703) 587-3282 Home (703) 234-9969 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Blackberry vs. Palm I had a Palm phone. The draw back is occationally they loose their internal battery power the the Flash, and you loose all the software and configs loaded. So its hard to rely on anything you put on it, and must rely on the Sync to destop for data retention. Do any of the hand helds, have rock solid storage systems, that are near impossible to wipe out? Such as Compact Flash or HardDisk? I LOVE my Sprint Phone. It has taken more abuse than any device on earth should be capable of taking, and keeps ticking. (dropped off a tower at 200 ft, Caught up in a Car Wheel well (wrapped around front wheel drive shaft) and driven 20 miles). And the Voice quality is the BEST or most consistent of any service that I've used in DC, based on attempting to communicate with Field techs with their various phone service provider brands. Where the Sprint falls short is Internet Access and messaging. We were never able to figure out how to pass data into the needed messaging field correctly, and it does not have full Internet Access for remote anywhere access to do critical low bandwidth things like remote access to reboot radios. The Cingular on the other hand, had crappy voice, but we get meaningful easilly to check alerting, and Instant Internet access adequate for low bandwidth usage. As much as I hate to leave Sprint after 10 years, I may have to change to Cingular, or get an EVDO portable device. I never really understood the Blackberry thing. But what I will say is that every executive that uses a Blackberry, that I do business with, has excellent and timely communication with me. I don't believe in cooincidences. There is something uniquely advantages about the Blackberry other than just its exchange integration. But I have not put my finger on what it is. I've avoided the srpint change because my hearing is so bad, and the Sprint makes all the difference. But in todays generation, as an IT company we can not ignore the mobile broadband advantage. I still believe that for the average consumer, portal broadband is unnecessary. But for support personelle and mobile work force, it is a REAL big time and money saver. Technology is the secret to response time. Plus Sprint's evil billing practices have been getting annoying recently. But then again, Sprint's unlimited Text Messaging doesn't send me random $400 Text message bills like Cincular had the ability to do from time to time. (I think they charged per page, We had to change all our Alerting to be several lines,
[WISPA] MT and UPS experience suggestions
All, I'm relatively new to MT, and wanted to get your feedback suggestions on some systems I'd like to deploy. I'd like to purchase an inexpensive UPS system that interfaces to MT and gives me battery voltage, current temp. I would then modify this UPS and use it in my own remote solar powered system. With the information apparently provided by the UPS, I could put together a decent remote MT system with monitoring. I have plenty of solar experience since I live off it :-) questions: 1) what are my UPS choices? have You used them with MT and do the statistics work right? 2) how much can these UPS units be had for? Thank you kindly, Marshall, Rabbit Meadows Technology -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: New America and Allies Submit FCC Comments Proving Case for Unlicensed Access to Unused TV Channels
for those following such stuff. marlon - Original Message - From: New America Foundation To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: New America and Allies Submit FCC Comments Proving Case for Unlicensed Access to Unused TV Channels New America and Allies Submit Comments to FCC Proving Case for Unlicensed Access to Unused TV Channels Yesterday, New America with Media Access Project and allies (NAF, et al.) filed comments in the FCC's proceeding to open up the unused channels (white space) in the prime frequencies of the TV band to unlicensed use for broadband and wireless innovation (Docket 04-186). NAF, et al., have filed numerous sets of comments in this proceeding since it was initiated in 2004. The proceeding, stalled at the FCC for almost two years, was re-activated in October after the Senate Commerce Committee unanimously adopted a bill (reintroduced this month by Sens. John Kerry and Gordon Smith) to require the FCC complete the rulemaking and open the vast wasteland of TV white space for unlicensed, wireless broadband and innovation. Our new comments authoritatively address two overriding issues: First, claims made by the TV broadcast industry that unlicensed devices operating in unused TV channels would interfere with TV reception and other licensed uses of the TV band; and second, whether the TV white space spectrum should be exclusively licensed instead of unlicensed. NAF, et al. filed three sets of comments yesterday: Economic/Legal Comments We challenge the FCC's re-opening of the issue of whether or not to license the TV white space, given its prior decision and an indisputable record in favor of an unlicensed approach. The comments summarize the tremendous and still rapidly increasing social and economic benefits of unlicensed spectrum, including more affordable and ubiquitous broadband - particularly in rural areas - home and enterprise networking, wireless device and service innovation, and more. The comments explain why licensing is both impractical and inadvisable in this band. We argue that the interference-avoidance mechanisms proposed in the FCC's original 2004 rulemaking are sufficient-along with specific technical parameters to be developed by the FCC-to protect licensed TV band users. Full comments available at: http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/economic_legal_comments_on_further_notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_for_unlicensed_access_to_tv_white_s Technical Comments Our Technical Comments, drafted by NAF technical advisor and prominent former FCC engineer Michael Marcus, address further technical issues that have arisen since the original 2004 comment period. These technical comments address the specific concerns and confusion propagated by the broadcast lobby with respect to the interference potential of unlicensed devices. They summarize the results of two engineering studies commissioned by NAF making an irrefutable empirical case for why unlicensed devices can both sense TV broadcast signals AND avoid causing interference. One of these studies, examining the potential for unlicensed devices to use cognitive radio sensing to detect and avoid occupied TV channels, was filed as an appendix to the Technical Comments. This White Space Sensing Study is available on our website here. Full comments available at: http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/technical_comments_on_further_notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_for_unlicensed_access_to_tv_white_spaces Final Results of University of Kansas TV White Space Interference Study NAF, et al. also filed the results of an unlicensed device interference study, commissioned by NAF and conducted at the University of Kansas IT labs, proving irrefutably that portable and low-power unlicensed devices can operate in empty TV channels without causing interference with television viewing on other channels. Full comments and study available at: http://www.newamerica.net/publications/resources/2007/final_results_of_university_of_kansas_tv_white_space_interference_study Thanks as always for your time and attention to these important issues. Best wishes, Michael Calabrese Vice President and Director, Wireless Future Program New America Foundation *** To be removed from this email list, please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
