Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Call me cheap I guess. I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in a week or so). $7500 deductible. Next year my rate will drop, after the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the $10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until 10k is paid. I don't mind it, I'd rather not have to pay the extra per month. Just a quick comparison, if I pay $229/mo vs $650/mo, if I max my deductible for the year I pay $1698 more than Marlon, but if I only hit $750, I saved $5052. I'd rather put money in the bank and have it work for me than giving it to an insurance company. -Kevin On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per > person. > > The wife's is covered by her work. > > No dental and a crappy vision plan. > > What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO > much government interference and no lawsuit protection. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Travis Johnson" > To: ; "WISPA General List" > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance > > >> A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's >> insurance rates to go up... :) >> >> We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health >> insurance, the dental and vision is extra). >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>> As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the >>> highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last >>> few years. >>> >>> It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all >>> of >>> your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance >>> Premiums. >>> >>> Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to >>> >>> " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 >>> of >>> our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " >>> offer less benefits for everyone in the company " >>> >>> At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, >>> especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health >>> Insurance... >>> If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, >>> would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company >>> provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the >>> other >>> 10% ? >>> >>> >>> What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing >>> typically >>> $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family >>> >>> >From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our >>> >present >>> coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year >>> increase >>> would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Just a thought. >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net >>> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: [WISPA] health insurance >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets >>> passed >>> in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are >>> estimating >>> our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we >>> already >>> cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would >>> force >>> us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our >>> current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less >>> benefits for everyone in the company. >>> >>> Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't >>> belong. >>> Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or >>> leave it alone. >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >> >> >> ---
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per person. The wife's is covered by her work. No dental and a crappy vision plan. What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO much government interference and no lawsuit protection. marlon - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" To: ; "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance > A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's > insurance rates to go up... :) > > We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health > insurance, the dental and vision is extra). > > Travis > Microserv > > Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the >> highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last >> few years. >> >> It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all >> of >> your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance >> Premiums. >> >> Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to >> >> " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 >> of >> our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " >> offer less benefits for everyone in the company " >> >> At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, >> especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health >> Insurance... >> If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, >> would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company >> provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the >> other >> 10% ? >> >> >> What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing >> typically >> $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family >> >> >From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our >> >present >> coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year >> increase >> would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... >> >> --- >> >> Just a thought. >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net >> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] health insurance >> >> Hi, >> >> What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets >> passed >> in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are >> estimating >> our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we >> already >> cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would >> force >> us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our >> current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less >> benefits for everyone in the company. >> >> Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't >> belong. >> Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or >> leave it alone. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
How about this. Give the employee's a raise and let them buy their OWN insurance! Let them finally come to understand what the rest of us have had to put up with for years.. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance > As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the > highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last > few years. > > It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of > your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance > Premiums. > > Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to > > " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of > our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " > offer less benefits for everyone in the company " > > At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, > especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health > Insurance... > If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, > would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company > provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the > other > 10% ? > > > What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing > typically > $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family > >>From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present > coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year > increase > would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... > > --- > > Just a thought. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net > Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] health insurance > > Hi, > > What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets > passed > in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are > estimating > our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we > already > cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force > us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our > current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less > benefits for everyone in the company. > > Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't > belong. > Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or > leave it alone. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
You mean like that PicKit3 that I never could get to work right only to find out they took out what worked in the PicKit2 and called it an improvement? Hammer. A hammer fixed my issues. I don't think it works now, though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Cool stuff. Hey Robert, I have a basic stamp programmer and a couple modules. Look in your junk box and trade me something. Mike At 07:16 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote: >This is the sort of thing I was thinking of: >http://tuxgraphics.org/electronics/200904/embedded-webserver-equipment-cont rol.shtml > >Something along the lines of a hobbyist kit project - cheap but some >legwork involved. > >Greg > > >On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Good thoughts. I'll look those over. I think I have some isolators in my > > fun box that I ripped out of something I trashed, never thought of that. > > May as well get fancy and use the GOOD hot glue > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:02 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring > > > > There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based > > connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get > > really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the > > battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the > > desired voltage set points and you could have it email you each > day with the > > battery voltage. It would take some work but it could be nice. > > > > I would be a little concerned about how well buffered the serial port lines > > are on the MT board. You might want to use some opto-isolators for your > > interface. > > > > Greg > > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > >> Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > >> somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > >> anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > >> signal. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > >> many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery > > will > >> drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and > > I > >> swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can > > buy > >> ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > >> just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > >> So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. > > I > >> have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > >> battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or > > the > >> phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to > > my > >> "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think > > I'd > >> be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > >> monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > >> substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > >> ruthless! > >> > >> > >> > >> Robert West > >> > >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > >> > >> 740-335-7020 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > > > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
No, this came from a post on the Buffoon article. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Wrong thread maybe? > > On 12/5/09, Matt wrote: > >> It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations > >> utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #. > >> Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the > >> best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this > >> problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their > >> resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku > >> player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as > >> well. > > > > So basically you are saying its best to use a DNS server on your > > cheapest backbone provider? > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
"What Buffoon" :) Maybe off topic as far as the list goes though. Oh well, its the weekend and we got our fist snow :( On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Off topic??? > > On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett wrote: > > "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." > > > > LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a > > "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit > > everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the > MTV > > channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I > > would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it > up. > > The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and > say, > > "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country > songs?" > > Geez. > > > > Scottie > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: RickG > > Reply-To: WISPA General List > > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 > > > >>LP or 78? > >> > >>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West > >> wrote: > >> > >>> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male > >>> fashion, > >>> fail to proofread! > >>> > >>> BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) > >>> > >>> Bob- > >>> > >>> Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed > is > >>> stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not > >>> digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to > >>> about > >>> 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we > still > >>> generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" > >>> showing > >>> through. > >>> > >>> Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett > >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > >>> > >>> Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used > megabytes, > >>> so > >>> that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > >>> transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > >>> against > >>> > >>> these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > >>> > >>> Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> Mike Hammett > >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>> http://www.ics-il.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> From: "Mike Hammett" > >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > >>> To: > >>> Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > >>> > >>> > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > - > >>> > Mike Hammett > >>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>> > http://www.ics-il.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>> > >> > >> > > >> > >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >> > >> > >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>--- > >>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Vi
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
LOL! The next day you should've put on CMT and played AC/DC! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." > > LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a > "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit > everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV > channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I > would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. > The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, > "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" > Geez. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message -- > From: RickG > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 > > >LP or 78? > > > >On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West >wrote: > > > >> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male > fashion, > >> fail to proofread! > >> > >> BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) > >> > >> Bob- > >> > >> Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed > is > >> stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not > >> digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to > about > >> 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we > still > >> generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" > >> showing > >> through. > >> > >> Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett > >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM > >> To: WISPA General List > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > >> > >> Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, > so > >> that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > >> transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > >> against > >> > >> these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > >> > >> Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> From: "Mike Hammett" > >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > >> To: > >> Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > >> > >> > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > >> > > >> > > >> > - > >> > Mike Hammett > >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> > http://www.ics-il.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >--- > >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as > $30.00/mth. > Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Remember to take a little off for overhead :) On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > T-1 = 1.544 Mbits/sec in either direction full duplex. > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, > so > > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > against > > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -- > > From: "Mike Hammett" > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > > To: > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > >> http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > -- > Marco C. Coelho > Argon Technologies Inc. > POB 875 > Greenville, TX 75403-0875 > 903-455-5036 > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Cool stuff. Hey Robert, I have a basic stamp programmer and a couple modules. Look in your junk box and trade me something. Mike At 07:16 PM 12/5/2009, you wrote: >This is the sort of thing I was thinking of: >http://tuxgraphics.org/electronics/200904/embedded-webserver-equipment-control.shtml > >Something along the lines of a hobbyist kit project - cheap but some >legwork involved. > >Greg > > >On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > Good thoughts. I'll look those over. I think I have some isolators in my > > fun box that I ripped out of something I trashed, never thought of that. > > May as well get fancy and use the GOOD hot glue > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:02 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring > > > > There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based > > connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get > > really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the > > battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the > > desired voltage set points and you could have it email you each > day with the > > battery voltage. It would take some work but it could be nice. > > > > I would be a little concerned about how well buffered the serial port lines > > are on the MT board. You might want to use some opto-isolators for your > > interface. > > > > Greg > > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert West wrote: > > > >> Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > >> somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > >> anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > >> signal. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > >> many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery > > will > >> drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and > > I > >> swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can > > buy > >> ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > >> just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > >> So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. > > I > >> have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > >> battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or > > the > >> phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to > > my > >> "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think > > I'd > >> be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > >> monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > >> substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > >> ruthless! > >> > >> > >> > >> Robert West > >> > >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > >> > >> 740-335-7020 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > > > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subs
Re: [WISPA] H.R. 2902: Broadband Internet Fairness Act
New York - it figures! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Matt wrote: > http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2902 > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Well I guess someone had to invent the space pen. Go to it techowizze! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 6:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Let me tell ya, pal, that's EXACTLY what I was gonna do but thought it was way too "Red Green" to show to anyone else! (I have a reputation to keep up of "weird" and that just don't it) Sure, I probably have that stuff just laying around already and I'm sure I still have a camera hidden someplace in the downstairs bathroom... uh... or, someplace... ahem But yeah, it would be done and over in just a couple of hours and would work perfectly. Where is the fun in that? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Ok techowizzes, why not a $2.00 volt meter a $20-30 ethernet b&w camera, w / power supply on power controller?I guess I'm the one who still uses a pencil. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are ruthless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the > highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last > few years. > > It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of > your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance > Premiums. > > Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to > > " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of > our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " > offer less benefits for everyone in the company " > > At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, > especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... > If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, > would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company > provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other > 10% ? > > > What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically > $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family > > >From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present > coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase > would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... > > --- > > Just a thought. > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net > Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] health insurance > > Hi, > > What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed > in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating > our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already > cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force > us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our > current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less > benefits for everyone in the company. > > Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. > Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or > leave it alone. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " offer less benefits for everyone in the company " At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family >From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Let me tell ya, pal, that's EXACTLY what I was gonna do but thought it was way too "Red Green" to show to anyone else! (I have a reputation to keep up of "weird" and that just don't it) Sure, I probably have that stuff just laying around already and I'm sure I still have a camera hidden someplace in the downstairs bathroom... uh... or, someplace... ahem But yeah, it would be done and over in just a couple of hours and would work perfectly. Where is the fun in that? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 9:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Ok techowizzes, why not a $2.00 volt meter a $20-30 ethernet b&w camera, w / power supply on power controller?I guess I'm the one who still uses a pencil. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are ruthless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Ok techowizzes, why not a $2.00 volt meter a $20-30 ethernet b&w camera, w / power supply on power controller?I guess I'm the one who still uses a pencil. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are ruthless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
That, my friend, sounds like the winner! Sad, isn't it? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Another option would be to split into two companies to keep them the right size. A installation subcontracting company that loses you money might be good for your taxes. On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 05:50:02PM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets > passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are > estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for > us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically > this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least > for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit > and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. > > Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't > belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding > it), or leave it alone. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I was thinking of doing this on a per county basis to segment the areas, have one parent, and all the rest are subs that "operate" the wisp as installers, the installation revenue is given to the child companies, support is operated by the child companies, the monthly service is provided by the parent. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Another option would be to split into two companies to keep them the right size. A installation subcontracting company that loses you money might be good for your taxes. On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 05:50:02PM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets > passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are > estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for > us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically > this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least > for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit > and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. > > Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't > belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding > it), or leave it alone. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Another option would be to split into two companies to keep them the right size. A installation subcontracting company that loses you money might be good for your taxes. On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 05:50:02PM -0700, Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets > passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are > estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for > us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically > this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least > for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit > and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. > > Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't > belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding > it), or leave it alone. > > Travis > Microserv > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I think you're absolutely right. We don't see health care costs anywhere on our paperwork up here in the frozen North (yes, it is snowing in the last couple of days). We just pay higher taxes to cover it which is simply a fact of life. Everyone gets a health card that is just a different coloured drivers license, literally. You show the card when you go for care. It works pretty well, we don't worry about where we go for care as the card is valid anywhere and everywhere, we just get on with the job. Simple is good. I had a great health plan living in Florida, but boy was it complicated working out what I could and could not do when it came to care. And it changed from time to time and you had to work it out all over again. As you say; get in and get it done, or get out. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of "get all the way in or get all the way out". I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
This is the sort of thing I was thinking of: http://tuxgraphics.org/electronics/200904/embedded-webserver-equipment-control.shtml Something along the lines of a hobbyist kit project - cheap but some legwork involved. Greg On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Robert West wrote: > Good thoughts. I'll look those over. I think I have some isolators in my > fun box that I ripped out of something I trashed, never thought of that. > May as well get fancy and use the GOOD hot glue > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:02 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring > > There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based > connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get > really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the > battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the > desired voltage set points and you could have it email you each day with the > battery voltage. It would take some work but it could be nice. > > I would be a little concerned about how well buffered the serial port lines > are on the MT board. You might want to use some opto-isolators for your > interface. > > Greg > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert West wrote: > >> Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are >> somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for >> anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off >> signal. >> >> >> >> I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like >> many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery > will >> drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and > I >> swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. >> >> >> >> I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can > buy >> ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows >> just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. >> So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. > I >> have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the >> battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or > the >> phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to > my >> "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think > I'd >> be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would >> monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it >> substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. >> >> >> >> Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are >> ruthless! >> >> >> >> Robert West >> >> Just Micro Digital Services Inc. >> >> 740-335-7020 >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of "get all the way in or get all the way out". I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Good thoughts. I'll look those over. I think I have some isolators in my fun box that I ripped out of something I trashed, never thought of that. May as well get fancy and use the GOOD hot glue -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the desired voltage set points and you could have it email you each day with the battery voltage. It would take some work but it could be nice. I would be a little concerned about how well buffered the serial port lines are on the MT board. You might want to use some opto-isolators for your interface. Greg On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] health insurance
Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
There are some really cool (and cheap) ASIC boards with Ethernet based connectivity that you need to write a custom program for but you could get really fancy with. They have A/D converters and you could monitor the battery voltage accurately, and you could have the device email you at the desired voltage set points and you could have it email you each day with the battery voltage. It would take some work but it could be nice. I would be a little concerned about how well buffered the serial port lines are on the MT board. You might want to use some opto-isolators for your interface. Greg On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Thanks, Aaron. I'll give it a browse. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Google "ComCap4" - they have a package to monitor virtual serial ports. While you may not need to spend the $80 to $130 (price based on features needed) - their site discusses a free routine from sourceforge that you may find useful I'm on the road at the moment so I don't have the URL handy Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: "Robert West" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:52:07 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/piperm
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Could I afford it? Yeah, I could. I just have that streak of innovation in me (just plain cheap) and I have a little time to tinker. 150 bucks is darn cheap enough to be sure and I'll probably do that once I spend 2 to 3 hundred bucks being cheap. What can I say, at least I'm honest! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I know it might be out of some peoples budget, but a PacketFlux Sitemonitor ($99.95) and a shunt (<$50 I think) will do what you want. It is what we use on our solar sites, and we graph/monitor them to make sure that the voltage stays high enough. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
I know it might be out of some peoples budget, but a PacketFlux Sitemonitor ($99.95) and a shunt (<$50 I think) will do what you want. It is what we use on our solar sites, and we graph/monitor them to make sure that the voltage stays high enough. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Google "ComCap4" - they have a package to monitor virtual serial ports. While you may not need to spend the $80 to $130 (price based on features needed) - their site discusses a free routine from sourceforge that you may find useful I'm on the road at the moment so I don't have the URL handy Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -Original Message- From: "Robert West" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:52:07 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Thanks Scott. I knew there had to be a lot of people wanting to use the serial pins for similar things. I was surprised to see it not in the recent releases. Stopped me dead in my tracks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
I ask them at MUM and they said this will be enabled soon. I sent it as enhancement suggestion, but have not heard anything from them. Robert West wrote: > Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are > somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for > anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off > signal. > > > > I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like > many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will > drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I > swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. > > > > I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy > ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows > just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. > So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I > have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the > battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the > phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my > "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd > be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would > monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it > substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. > > > > Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are > ruthless! > > > > Robert West > > Just Micro Digital Services Inc. > > 740-335-7020 > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik Serial Port Monitoring
Before I go over to the MT forums and get treated like an idiot (they are somehow able to see through my clever disguise, darn it!) I'm looking for anyone who has used the serial pins on the Routerboard to send an on/off signal. I have a home brew solar install that runs an AP but there are times, like many cloudy days in a row, things don't charge as well and the battery will drop and then I lose the AP. I have a backup battery I carry with me and I swap the things from time to time but still, sometimes it drops out. I'm cheap, so bear with me here. I know there are lots of things I can buy ($$$) to do what I want to do but I'm a maverick, a rebel, a guy who knows just enough to screw everything up and almost enough to fix some of it. So I only want the MT to send me a message that the battery is low. I have an el-cheapo device, cost me fifteen bucks, that will monitor the battery and turn on 3 lights ,"Good", "Low" and "You better get here or the phone is gonna start ringing". If I can take the voltage that is sent to my "low" led and use that to send a signal to the serial port then I think I'd be almost there. Older versions of RouterOS had a package that would monitor the serial port but from what I read, it's no more. Was it substituted with anything? If so, I can't find it. Any help is welcome, just don't send me to the forums, those guys are ruthless! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Wrong thread maybe? On 12/5/09, Matt wrote: >> It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations >> utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #. >> Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the >> best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this >> problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their >> resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku >> player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as >> well. > > So basically you are saying its best to use a DNS server on your > cheapest backbone provider? > > Matt > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
> It does, Netflix is served via many different geographical locations > utlizing geographical DNS based on information about your AS #. > Sometimes folks are routed to Netflix streaming mirrors which aren't the > best, and therefore play at a lower resolution. I don't have this > problem, but I'm aware of ISP's who have created a local zone in their > resolving DNS for Netflix's streaming mirrors. If you check the Roku > player forums you will find this advise coming from their engineers as well. So basically you are saying its best to use a DNS server on your cheapest backbone provider? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Yup. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. So ya... Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door. Exponential - not linear. On 12/5/09, Robert West wrote: > This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it > started. :) > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > Off topic??? > > On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett wrote: >> "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." >> >> LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a >> "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit >> everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the > MTV >> channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I >> would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. >> The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, >> "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" >> Geez. >> >> Scottie >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: RickG >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 >> >>>LP or 78? >>> >>>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West >>> wrote: >>> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, fail to proofread! BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) Bob- Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed > is stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we > still generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" showing through. Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM To: Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>>- - > -- >>>WISPA W
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
So ya... Idiot news guy...T1spot head smoking next door. Exponential - not linear. On 12/5/09, Robert West wrote: > This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it > started. :) > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > Off topic??? > > On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett wrote: >> "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." >> >> LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a >> "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit >> everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the > MTV >> channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I >> would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. >> The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, >> "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" >> Geez. >> >> Scottie >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: RickG >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 >> >>>LP or 78? >>> >>>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West >>> wrote: >>> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, fail to proofread! BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) Bob- Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed > is stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we > still generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" showing through. Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM To: Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>>-- > -- >>>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>-- > -- >>> >>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>http://lists.wisp
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
This thread has been teetering on the edge of being off topic since it started. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:38 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. Off topic??? On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett wrote: > "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." > > LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a > "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit > everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV > channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I > would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. > The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, > "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" > Geez. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message -- > From: RickG > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 > >>LP or 78? >> >>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West >> wrote: >> >>> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male >>> fashion, >>> fail to proofread! >>> >>> BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is >>> stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not >>> digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to >>> about >>> 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still >>> generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" >>> showing >>> through. >>> >>> Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >>> >>> Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, >>> so >>> that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte >>> transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win >>> against >>> >>> these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. >>> >>> Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Mike Hammett" >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >>> >>> > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 >>> > >>> > >>> > - >>> > Mike Hammett >>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> > http://www.ics-il.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >>-- -- >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>http://signup.wispa.org/ >>-- -- >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>--- >>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as > $30.00/mth. > Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. > > >
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Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Off topic??? On 12/5/09, Scottie Arnett wrote: > "Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." > > LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a > "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit > everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV > channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I > would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. > The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, > "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" > Geez. > > Scottie > > -- Original Message -- > From: RickG > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 > >>LP or 78? >> >>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West >> wrote: >> >>> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male >>> fashion, >>> fail to proofread! >>> >>> BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is >>> stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not >>> digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to >>> about >>> 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still >>> generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" >>> showing >>> through. >>> >>> Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >>> >>> Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, >>> so >>> that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte >>> transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win >>> against >>> >>> these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. >>> >>> Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From: "Mike Hammett" >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >>> >>> > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 >>> > >>> > >>> > - >>> > Mike Hammett >>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> > http://www.ics-il.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> > >>> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> > >>> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> >>WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>--- >>[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] >> >> > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as > $30.00/mth. > Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archi
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
"Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record..." LOL. Reminds me of when I was in college and living in the dorm. I had a "pothead" that lived next door to me, and was always trying to visit everyone on the floor. For kicks and giggles I would turn the TV on the MTV channel(back when they played music videos) and turn the volume down. I would put a CD in the radio of some upbeat country artist and crank it up. The "pothead" would come in and look at the MTV video on the tube and say, "Dude, thats a kick a@@ tune. When did AC/DC start singing country songs?" Geez. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: RickG Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 12:30:42 -0500 >LP or 78? > >On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West wrote: > >> My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, >> fail to proofread! >> >> BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) >> >> Bob- >> >> Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is >> stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not >> digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about >> 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still >> generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" >> showing >> through. >> >> Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >> >> Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so >> that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte >> transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win >> against >> >> these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. >> >> Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Mike Hammett" >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM >> To: >> Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. >> >> > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 >> > >> > >> > - >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> >> >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
T-1 = 1.544 Mbits/sec in either direction full duplex. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > To: > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > >> http://www.benton.org/node/30268 >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
at $40/meg ;P On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Robert West wrote: > Not sure. How fast does an MP3 spin? > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > LP or 78? > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West > wrote: > > > My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male > fashion, > > fail to proofread! > > > > BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) > > > > Bob- > > > > Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is > > stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not > > digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to > about > > 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still > > generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" > > showing > > through. > > > > Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, > so > > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > > against > > > > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -- > > From: "Mike Hammett" > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > > To: > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > > > > - > > > Mike Hammett > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
I get those people once in a while. The last one turned around and asked me if I needed installers. I said, "sure, if your doing it for a hobby, your hired"! On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Robert West wrote: > You charge too much. Don't you know it's supposed to be a hobby and not a > business? You are a very bad man. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll > flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West > wrote: > > > It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending > > your immoral and dishonest marketing. > > > > You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister! > > > > Bob- > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of RickG > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > LOL! > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: > > > > I went a bit further on this. That "Stop the Cap" guy posted that he > > > does > > > > not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb. > > > > > > Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to > that > > > moron's twitter page. He had a link to a story that was shortened by > > > "tr.im". When I clicked the link, here is what I got: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I went to his website and sent him a > > > > challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have. I > gave > > > him > > > > my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll > > buy > > > it. > > > > I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at > > > http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/ > > > > and ask him to help you out as well. Let him actually be part of the > > > > solution instead of just another noise maker. > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living > and > > > how > > > > much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much! > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I suppose not. I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time > > and > > > > that > > > > > guy rattled my box. He also replied and I in turn added more to > the > > > > debate > > > > > but people like that are in the "more for me" frame of mind and all > > > > > business > > > > > owners are rich and greedy. > > > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM > > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Couldn't hold it in. Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom. > > > > > > Eatmoresoap is my alter ego. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > On > > > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM > > > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good to see you're beating on him Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The original post and comments section are here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the comments are pretty well thought out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > > > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > > > On > > > > > > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM > > > > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Not sure. How fast does an MP3 spin? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. LP or 78? On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West wrote: > My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, > fail to proofread! > > BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) > > Bob- > > Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is > stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not > digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about > 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still > generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" > showing > through. > > Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > against > > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > To: > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
You charge too much. Don't you know it's supposed to be a hobby and not a business? You are a very bad man. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West wrote: > It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending > your immoral and dishonest marketing. > > You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister! > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > LOL! > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: > > > I went a bit further on this. That "Stop the Cap" guy posted that he > > does > > > not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb. > > > > Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that > > moron's twitter page. He had a link to a story that was shortened by > > "tr.im". When I clicked the link, here is what I got: > > > > > > > > > I went to his website and sent him a > > > challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have. I gave > > him > > > my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll > buy > > it. > > > I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at > > http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/ > > > and ask him to help you out as well. Let him actually be part of the > > > solution instead of just another noise maker. > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and > > how > > > much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much! > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I suppose not. I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time > and > > > that > > > > guy rattled my box. He also replied and I in turn added more to the > > > debate > > > > but people like that are in the "more for me" frame of mind and all > > > > business > > > > owners are rich and greedy. > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Couldn't hold it in. Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom. > > > > > Eatmoresoap is my alter ego. > > > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM > > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head! > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good to see you're beating on him Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > The original post and comments section are here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the comments are pretty well thought out. > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > > On > > > > > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM > > > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Mike Hammett > > > > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
LP or 78? On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Robert West wrote: > My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, > fail to proofread! > > BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) > > Bob- > > Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is > stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not > digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about > 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still > generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" > showing > through. > > Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > against > > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > To: > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
"Don't rain on my "make fun of the people that don't know anything about ISPs" parade." -j/k u! Thats the trouble with these people. We're too busy doing the work to catch our typing abilities. I almost didnt post but Bob needed some backup. -RickG On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so > that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte > transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win > against > these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. > > Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM > To: > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Hah! I just rolled out my new plans with faster speeds, up to 6Mbps. He'll flip. I still cant figure out what his deal is. -RickG On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Robert West wrote: > It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending > your immoral and dishonest marketing. > > You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister! > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > LOL! > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: > > > I went a bit further on this. That "Stop the Cap" guy posted that he > > does > > > not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb. > > > > Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that > > moron's twitter page. He had a link to a story that was shortened by > > "tr.im". When I clicked the link, here is what I got: > > > > > > > > > I went to his website and sent him a > > > challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have. I gave > > him > > > my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll > buy > > it. > > > I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at > > http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/ > > > and ask him to help you out as well. Let him actually be part of the > > > solution instead of just another noise maker. > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and > > how > > > much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much! > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I suppose not. I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time > and > > > that > > > > guy rattled my box. He also replied and I in turn added more to the > > > debate > > > > but people like that are in the "more for me" frame of mind and all > > > > business > > > > owners are rich and greedy. > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Couldn't hold it in. Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom. > > > > > Eatmoresoap is my alter ego. > > > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM > > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head! > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good to see you're beating on him Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > The original post and comments section are here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the comments are pretty well thought out. > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > > On > > > > > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM > > > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > Mike Hammett > > > > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > >
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
My bad. I sometimes type before I think and then, in typical male fashion, fail to proofread! BTW, I really hate "my bad". Somehow it seemed right though. :) Bob- Thanks, Mike. I really do appreciate the checks on this. My T1 speed is stuck in my head from years ago when we sold T1s that were analog, not digital. They were around 1.3 so I've always managed to round it to about 1mb. However, when Qwest took over LCI they went to digital but we still generalized it as 1mb. Not accurate at all, I admit. Just my "old" showing through. Now I'm gonna go turn down the TV and play a record... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM To: Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
Guys, make sure you get your terminology right. Someone used megabytes, so that is what he's arguing on now. He's saying no one pays $40/megabyte transferred. He's correct on that, I hope. You can't expect to win against these guys when you don't use proper terms yourself. Also, a T1 is about 1.5 megabit, not 1. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:06 PM To: Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure
Titan Wireless offers an upgrade option when ordering this enclosure that replaces all the steel with stainless. Looks nicer, goes together nicer, and doesn't rust. On 12/4/09, rwf wrote: > You got that right! Very difficult to weatherproof once mounted on the > tower. Even if it's not on the tower it is difficult if the bottom mounting > "ear" is attached. > > Plus- they weather badly and look horrible after a year. > Plus- the 4 screws for the cover rust. > Plus- we don't see how, but the weatherproof gland that protects the RJ45 > socket on the bottom somehow allows water in. We will lose connectivity and > then go up the tower only to find the plug completely corroded in the jack. > Instant need to replace the radio. We have one dow right now that has half > a city's mesh network down, as it is a signal injection source point. > > > > Ralph > > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:18 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure > > Those look like they have a lot of junk sticking out where you'd need to > weather proof connectors. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure > > >> Does die cast aluminum count as metal in this case? Do you normally use >> steel if not? >> >> I use these: >> http://quicklinkwireless.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DCE-H-LG-2&eq=&Tp= >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> --- Albert Einstein >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >> wrote: >> >>> I've given up on this. There is just too much cross talk. I put all >>> radios >>> in the same band in their own METAL enclosure nowadays. I try to keep >>> them >>> at least 3 or 6 feet apart too. Life is much much nicer. >>> marlon >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Mike" >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:13 AM >>> Subject: [WISPA] Multiple Radio cards in an enclosure >>> >>> >>> > Since I am probably one of the veterans called out yesterday for my >>> > messaging etiquette, I am changing the subject. >>> > >>> > I am interested in the multiple radios in an enclosure idea. I do >>> > have a couple with 5.8 and 2.4 gear in the same box, but have been >>> > afraid to put cards in the same band in the same case. >>> > >>> > The foil spacer you put between cards Bob, do you then ground it to >>> > create a sort of Faraday shield? I know the XRx cards do a good job >>> > of shielding if you attach the pigtail. >>> > >>> > How about the receive sensitivity on the 411 cards? Has that been an >>> > issue? I think the XR cards have better specs. Wouldn't having >>> > multiple 411 cards in the same box possibly have desense issues too? >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > >>> > >>> > At 09:41 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: >>> >>Forgot to add, if you're concerned with any RF collisions inside the >>> >>box, >>> >>the other thing I talked about earlier, having just 3 411 cards in >>> >>their >>> >>own >>> >>box at the sector then running Cat5 to transparent bridge the 411's to >>> >>a >>> >>central RouterOS device would take any of that issue totally away. >>> That's >>> >>one that I'm doing just to do it, basically. Was an idea from someone >>> >>a >>> >>couple of months ago. (I actually listen to you guys) Had a 600a >>> >>doing >>> >>nothing and some 411 cards "so why not play?" was my thinking. >>> >> >>> >>Bob- >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>-Original Message- >>> >>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> >>Behalf Of Mike >>> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM >>> >>To: WISPA General List >>> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors >>> >> >>> >>Have you had any issues with putting 3 radio cards in the same >>> >>spectrum in the same box? I've thought about that but wondered if >>> >>there would be desense issues where one transmitting desensitizes >>> >>another one listening. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>At 08:38 AM 12/2/2009, you wrote: >>> >> >Yep, looks like you're hitting the wall. We aren't lucky enough to >>> push >>> >> >3 >>> >> >meg here, the most is usually 1 so again, all depends on your >>> >> >customer >>> >>base. >>> >> > >>> >> >I'd say if you already have 35 on that one AP, just splitting it into > >>> >> >2 >>> >> >180 >>> >> >degree sectors will just cost you cash as soon as you gain a few more >>> >> >customers. You already have 35 pulling it down, sounds like if you >>> just >>> >> >do >>> >> >2 180's, if split evenly (and it never will be) that would put you to >>> >> >where >>> >> >you probably want to be for smooth delivery but not much room for >>> >
Re: [WISPA] What buffoons..
It's about time you replied to that guy. I was getting tired of defending your immoral and dishonest marketing. You really have some nerve selling 3mb speed for 59 bucks, mister! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. LOL! On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 23:17 -0500, Robert West wrote: > > I went a bit further on this. That "Stop the Cap" guy posted that he > does > > not believe that I pay $40.00 per mb. > > Maybe it's just my funny sense of humor, but I followed the link to that > moron's twitter page. He had a link to a story that was shortened by > "tr.im". When I clicked the link, here is what I got: > > > > > I went to his website and sent him a > > challenge to find me the cheaper access that he's sure we have. I gave > him > > my address and contact information and told him if he finds it, I'll buy > it. > > I urge everyone else to visit Phillip at > http://stopthecap.com/contact-us/ > > and ask him to help you out as well. Let him actually be part of the > > solution instead of just another noise maker. > > > > Bob- > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of RickG > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:35 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > Most of us here know the type. I ask them what they do for a living and > how > > much they make. Then, I tell them thats way too much! > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Robert West > > wrote: > > > > > I suppose not. I tend to get up on the soap box from time to time and > > that > > > guy rattled my box. He also replied and I in turn added more to the > > debate > > > but people like that are in the "more for me" frame of mind and all > > > business > > > owners are rich and greedy. > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:08 PM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > I had a feeling. But are you sure its your alter ego? > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Robert West > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks. Couldn't hold it in. Sometimes I have a bit of wisdom. > > > > Eatmoresoap is my alter ego. > > > > > > > > Bob- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > > Behalf Of RickG > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:34 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > Eatmoresoap hit the nail on the head! > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM, George Morris > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good to see you're beating on him Mike. > > > > > > > > > > The original post and comments section are here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fiberevolution.com/2009/12/whats-a-bandwidth-hog-.html#comments > > > > > > > > > > Some of the comments are pretty well thought out. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:06 PM > > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] What buffoons.. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.benton.org/node/30268 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Mike Hammett > > > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > Archives: http://lists
