Re: [WISPA] AT getting rid of DirectTV?

[CBB - Jay Fuller via Wireless]

I am not a believer of this speculation

Sent from my smartphone

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From: "Mark Radabaugh via Wireless" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] AT getting rid of DirectTV?
Date: Wed, Sep 18, 2019 7:09 PM

https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-explores-parting-ways-with-directv-11568841544?mod=hp_lead_pos1
Interesting, and I wonder what this implies for AT and fixed wireless.   
Direct TV is the workforce that I would have expected them to use if they were 
serious about fixed wireless.  

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Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Butch is a WISP operator again.  He does still help from time to time but you 
have to schedule with him ahead and time.
Not sure if he is still doing full-on consulting or not.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Reichhart 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??


  If you need some tik help hit up Robert Terpe on Facebook or call him at 
360-202-9157 not try to put butch down but Robert does good job.

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 4:49 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??

   

  He's around... Hear from him all the time.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:47 PM Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

I have been trying to contact Butch Evans for some mikrotik work.


Does anyone know if he is still around?

t


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Re: [WISPA] Jay Fuller

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Cullman mostly took hail damage.  SERIOUS hail damage.  Some company vehicles 
in bad shape.
Lots of our business districts are closed with roof damage and word is unable 
to reopen.
Additionally several car lots have millions in damaged inventory.

How are ya'll coping in west GA?

Not much power problems or infrastructure problems really.  Network is fine...

  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 11:03 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Jay Fuller


  Saw a tornado in Falkville just now.

  Hope you guys are OK, since you are close.

  We have had some serious ones here in West GA tonight.

   

  ralph

   

   



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Re: [WISPA] At Wispamerica Monday

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Will also be at baicells training...say hi!

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To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: [WISPA] At Wispamerica Monday
Date: Sun, Mar 4, 2018 7:27 PM

Looking forward to seeing some of you in Birmingham Monday. I am going to the 
Baicells training, but will not be able to attend the remainder of the 
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Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please fileifyou have not already done so.

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

That was actually a post by "Jan", not me ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Lenig 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please 
fileifyou have not already done so.


  I have to agree with you Jay Fuller – but I’m trying to keep my paranoia 
optimistic.  

   

  I read Comcast’s comments…. Very interesting with good, compelling 
suggestions to keep it at the County level, 7 year licenses, bid credits for 
incumbents.  And they showed several examples of where PEA licensing failed to 
encourage innovation and expansion. 

   

  Comcast clearly has a vested interest in this outcome.  Is it to be a player? 
Or to make sure they are not overrun by the cell carriers using a clean and 
powerful frequency.  

   

  Time will tell… 

   

  Best regards,

  Joe Lenig

  Head of Impact

  Virginia Broadband, LLC  “VABB”

  540-727-2863 (direct)

  joele...@vabb.com

  www.vabb.com 

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jan-OOLLC
  Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 4:01 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file 
ifyou have not already done so.

   

  An opinion from this peanut gallery is that o-jit-pie is not interested in 
serving the American public or the governments interests, he is only interested 
in serving himself with all the money he can garner from his large corporate 
donors.  Folks the mafia has taken over the government.  We can cry all we 
want, the tone-deaf aren't listening.

  J

   

  On 12/28/2017 08:27 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

 

I look forward to reading everyone's comments - especially after I stole 
some very useful paragraphs from a few of you. :)

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Ken Garnett 

  To: 'WISPA General List' ; memb...@wispa.org ; 'Principal WISPA Member 
List' 

  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:17 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file 
ifyou have not already done so.

   

  Done.

   

  Proceeding:17-258

  Confirmation #:201712293080913313

  Submitted:Dec 28, 2017 8:07:52 PM

  Status:RECEIVED

  Name(s) of Filer(s)Cal.net, Inc.

   

   

  - Ken Garnett
Chief Technology Officer
Cal.Net
530-672-1078, x103

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:58 AM
  To: memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List <w...@wispa.org>; 
wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file if 
you have not already done so.

   

  WISPA Members,

  We are in the middle of one of the most important fights in the history 
of our industry.  We need every member (operators, vendors, service providers) 
to submit comments to the FCC.  More background and an outline to help you 
cover all the bases are in Steve Coran’s email below.   

  Please take 30 minutes today and put together a letter to the FCC on 
CBRS.  If you need assistance, or want help reviewing a draft, contact me, Mark 
Radabaugh, or Steve Coran off list and we’ll help you.  

  We have also developed a website that will enable you to see the 
difference between census tracts (the current proposal for allocating PALs) and 
PEAS.  Instructions for accessing that website are below.  

  If you would prefer to have a KMZ file showing PEA's that you can use, 
you can download it here: 

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5b1zf1mtm5b0v2/FCC_PEAs_website.kmz?dl=0

   

  THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT 

   

   

  Citizens Broadband Radio Service

  GN Docket No. 17-258

   

  Suggestions for Filing Comments regarding Notice of Proposed Rulemaking

  Deadline: Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 11:59 pm Eastern Time

   

  Background

   

  On October 24, 2017, the FCC released a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking 
(NPRM) that would fundamentally change the Citizens Broadband Radio Service 
(CBRS), which includes the 3550-3650 MHz band and the existing 3650-3700 MHz 
band.  WISPA will be filing extensive Comments opposing many of the proposed 
rule changes, and we believe it is very important for individual members – 
WISPs, manufacturers, vendors, etc. – to also file Comments.

   

  Summary of Current Rules That Will Be Changed If WISPs Do Not Comment

   

  The FCC adopted rules in April 2015 to establish the CBRS band.  The band 
employs a three-tier spectrum access model.  Incumbent Access (earth stations 
and military) that must always be protected from interference; Priority Access, 
which will be auctioned by the FCC according to census tracts and must protect 
incumbents; and Ge

Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file ifyou have not already done so.

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I look forward to reading everyone's comments - especially after I stole some 
very useful paragraphs from a few of you. :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Garnett 
  To: 'WISPA General List' ; memb...@wispa.org ; 'Principal WISPA Member List' 
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file 
ifyou have not already done so.


  Done.

   

  Proceeding:17-258

  Confirmation #:201712293080913313

  Submitted:Dec 28, 2017 8:07:52 PM

  Status:RECEIVED

  Name(s) of Filer(s)Cal.net, Inc.

   

   

  - Ken Garnett
Chief Technology Officer
Cal.Net
530-672-1078, x103

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
  Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:58 AM
  To: memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List ; 
wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Last day to file CBRS Comments is today. Please file if you 
have not already done so.

   

  WISPA Members,

  We are in the middle of one of the most important fights in the history of 
our industry.  We need every member (operators, vendors, service providers) to 
submit comments to the FCC.  More background and an outline to help you cover 
all the bases are in Steve Coran’s email below.   

  Please take 30 minutes today and put together a letter to the FCC on CBRS.  
If you need assistance, or want help reviewing a draft, contact me, Mark 
Radabaugh, or Steve Coran off list and we’ll help you.  

  We have also developed a website that will enable you to see the difference 
between census tracts (the current proposal for allocating PALs) and PEAS.  
Instructions for accessing that website are below.  

  If you would prefer to have a KMZ file showing PEA's that you can use, you 
can download it here: 

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/y5b1zf1mtm5b0v2/FCC_PEAs_website.kmz?dl=0

   

  THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT 

   

   

  Citizens Broadband Radio Service

  GN Docket No. 17-258

   

  Suggestions for Filing Comments regarding Notice of Proposed Rulemaking

  Deadline: Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 11:59 pm Eastern Time

   

  Background

   

  On October 24, 2017, the FCC released a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) 
that would fundamentally change the Citizens Broadband Radio Service (CBRS), 
which includes the 3550-3650 MHz band and the existing 3650-3700 MHz band.  
WISPA will be filing extensive Comments opposing many of the proposed rule 
changes, and we believe it is very important for individual members – WISPs, 
manufacturers, vendors, etc. – to also file Comments.

   

  Summary of Current Rules That Will Be Changed If WISPs Do Not Comment

   

  The FCC adopted rules in April 2015 to establish the CBRS band.  The band 
employs a three-tier spectrum access model.  Incumbent Access (earth stations 
and military) that must always be protected from interference; Priority Access, 
which will be auctioned by the FCC according to census tracts and must protect 
incumbents; and General Authorized Access (GAA), a “license by rule” service 
that must protect Incumbent and Priority Access use.  The FCC allocated up to 
70 megahertz for Priority Access Licenses (PALs) and the remaining 80 megahertz 
for GAA use.  The FCC also will allow GAA use opportunistically when and where 
Priority Access Licenses (PALs) are not in use.  The model will be governed by 
a Spectrum Access System (SAS) that will enforce the three-tier approach.

   

  In addition to fixed wireless service, the CBRS band is viewed as an 
“innovation band” to enable other business models such as Industrial Internet 
of Things, private networks, venues (e.g., airports, arenas, shopping malls), 
neutral host networks and others.

   

  Summary of Proposed Changes to the Rules Sought by the Mobile Industry

   

  Here is a link to the proposed regulatory action that the FCC is considering: 
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-17-134A1.pdf)

  PLEASE BE SURE TO READ Paragraphs 9-27, which are relevant to the proposals 
discussed below  

   

  The FCC, at the request of the mobile industry, is proposing changes to the 
PAL rules so they are friendlier to national mobile carriers.  If adopted, the 
proposed rules would effectively foreclose small companies that wish to acquire 
protected spectrum for small areas and create a “5G-only” band available only 
to the large mobile wireless providers.  The specific proposals are as follows: 
 

  Ø  Conduct PAL auctions based on Partial Economic Areas (PEAs) or other 
geographic areas that are larger than census tracts, such as counties.  There 
are 416 PEAs and more than 74,000 census tracts.  Census tracts are optimized 
at a population of ~4,000.

  Ø  Extend Priority Access License (PAL) terms from 3 years to 10 years and 
add a “renewal expectancy” that could make PALs essentially perpetual.

   

  These proposed rule changes would make the cost of 

Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

listenedenjoyed the calls from listeners too.  good job!

sounds like you may have got some business out of it too!

  - Original Message - 
  From: t...@cherrycapitalconnection.com 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 11:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points


  I was asked to speak on the issue of Net Neutrality.

  This is the recording

   

  
http://wtcmradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Tim-Maylone-Cherry-Capital-Communications-12-01-17.mp3

   

  Staying to point was one of my goals I thought I achieved.

   

  It was my first time in studio, Was kind of fun


  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:17 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

   

  There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another 
(VOIP vs FTP).  It leads to a better quality of service for the end user. 

  Where this was going sideways earlier was when the big ISP companies were 
going to charge Netflix and Hulu directly if they wanted priority on their 
backbones.

   

  On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

Yes but do you prioritize vonage over ooma??? 

-Sean

 

[Sent from mobile]


On Dec 15, 2017, at 6:33 PM, James Wilson  wrote:

  Don't we prioritize VoIP?

   

  On Dec 15, 2017 4:04 PM, "Josh Luthman"  
wrote:

This is fantastic.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh"  wrote:

  For your use, re-posted from last week:

   

  Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet 
Freedom” 

  December 2017 

   

  Overview for WISPA Members 

   

  ·   These talking points are not intended to be used proactively. 
WISPA is not taking a proactive role in advocacy on this issue, and we do not 
recommend that you do. 

  ·   The intent is to help you be prepared for media and public 
inquiries if they do come in. 

  ·   If you receive a query about your company’s position on net 
neutrality, or WISPA’s position, we encourage you to refer it to us to handle. 
Please send it to: 

  o   Dale Curtis, WISPA Communications Support, 
d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com 

  ·   If you do choose to answer a media or public query:

  o   Please let us know, preferably in advance; and 

  o   Please stick to this script; going off script could create 
problems for you and your business.  

   

  General Tips 

   

  ·   Any statements you make must be 100% truthful and backed-up 
with facts; so please don’t say anything that is untrue or unsupportable with 
facts. 

  ·   If you don’t know the answer to a question, just say so. A 
convenient way to say it is: “I don’t know about that, but what I do know is …” 
  

  ·   Don’t bring up other issues. 

   

  Talking Points 

   

  ·   Let’s be clear: We support a free and open internet. 

  o   We don’t block, throttle, or prioritize any content.

  o   We disclose our terms of service in plain English.  

  o   We support robust privacy protections for our customers. 

  o   Those are the core elements of “net neutrality,” and we support 
them.  

   

  ·   We believe you can have a free and open internet without 
heavy-handed regulation and enforcement that is ill-suited for small providers. 

   

  ·   What was wrong with the way the internet was regulated up 
until two years ago? It worked well then, and it will again. 

   

  ·   FCC regulations designed to treat all internet providers like 
large monopoly utilities – with open-ended and vaguely worded requirements, all 
subject to bureaucratic whim – are taking resources away from investment in 
under-served areas and diverting them instead toward lawyers and compliance 
consultants. 

   

  ·   When our compliance costs go up because of government action, 
we either have to reduce investment in our business or pass those costs on to 
our customers. 

   


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Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Just interested to hear an outsider point of view...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?


  Money...


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Dec 8, 2017 12:19 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


Why do you want to buy a WISP?

  - Original Message - 
  From: t...@steelinternet.com 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?


  Good question, 



  Bill, my name is Timothy Steele we have met before.  I am in the market 
for purchasing a WISP. No idea where to begin.  Could I get your email address? 
Mine is t...@fiberxstream.com and anyone else on this list aware of a WISP 
selling or any brokers etc. also please let me know.



  Regards, 



  -TJ



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Bill MacNamara
  Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?



  Jeff,



  Would be happy to talk with you offline, I have been a lender to the WISP 
space for over 12 years and have financed dozens of tranactions. Best way to 
reach me would be by phone (928) 970-1340.



  Warmest Regards,



  Bill MacNamara






  Bill MacNamara

  (928) 970-1340







  On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:33 PM, <jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com> 
wrote:

Please share your recommendations and/or experiences with business 
brokers or other suggestions for selling a WISP.



Thanks,

Jeff



Jeffrey A. Franklin, Esq.

Principal Consultant

BrightLine Tech Solutions, LLC

101 Pennsylvania Ave.

Reading, PA  19606-9406

610-314-7130 (o)

610-914-1953 (c)

jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com

www.BrightLineTechSolutions.com

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Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Why do you want to buy a WISP?

  - Original Message - 
  From: t...@steelinternet.com 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?


  Good question, 

   

  Bill, my name is Timothy Steele we have met before.  I am in the market for 
purchasing a WISP. No idea where to begin.  Could I get your email address? 
Mine is t...@fiberxstream.com and anyone else on this list aware of a WISP 
selling or any brokers etc. also please let me know.

   

  Regards, 

   

  -TJ

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Bill MacNamara
  Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

   

  Jeff,

   

  Would be happy to talk with you offline, I have been a lender to the WISP 
space for over 12 years and have financed dozens of tranactions. Best way to 
reach me would be by phone (928) 970-1340.

   

  Warmest Regards,

   

  Bill MacNamara




   

  Bill MacNamara

  (928) 970-1340

   

   

   

  On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:33 PM,  wrote:

Please share your recommendations and/or experiences with business brokers 
or other suggestions for selling a WISP.

 

Thanks,

Jeff

 

Jeffrey A. Franklin, Esq.

Principal Consultant

BrightLine Tech Solutions, LLC

101 Pennsylvania Ave.

Reading, PA  19606-9406

610-314-7130 (o)

610-914-1953 (c)

jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com

www.BrightLineTechSolutions.com

Twitter | LinkedIn | Clio

 


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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Thanks for all you do Steve - you go above and beyond the call of duty.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Coran, Steve 
  To: memb...@wispa.org ; WISPA General List 
  Cc: Brian Webster (bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com) 
  Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance


  To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right now.  
I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and Mike 
Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and 
I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I'm not sure if that is a 
FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to 
get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I've tried as well.



  Stephen E. Coran

  Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20036

  202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran - 
twitter



  From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jack Unger
  Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
  To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



  Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. 

  The Internet is "critical infrastructure".  

  Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts? 

  jack



  On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

We are in touch with FEMA and DHS. but no help. 



From:  on behalf of Michael Meluskey 

Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



Hi Guys, 

Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the 
pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.

We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical 
material.



Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people 
dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them 
ship down the gear he needs.



Mike Meluskey

Broadband VI





Gino A. Villarini
   
President
   
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
   



  On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:




   Forwarded Message  

Subject:
   Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
   
Date:
   Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
   
From:
   Brian Webster 
   
Reply-To:
   WISPA General List 
   
To:
   'WISPA General List' 
   



  Daniel,

  I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send 
me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large WISP on 
the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right now. His 
replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on ways to get it 
to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower resources and response. 
There are no scheduled commercial flights to the island yet. Until he gets the 
equipment there,. Having people show up is not prudent. He is working on a 
detailed manpower list for me once that equipment hits the island.



  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Daniel K
  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance



  Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast 
after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now. 



  I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some of 
the local WISPs get back on their feet. 



  Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much 
for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
benefit any similar effort if there is one.





  Thanks,



  Dan



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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450i Repair Paul McCall

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Weekley 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450i Repair Paul McCall


  Speaking of Pdmnet.  I wonder how did Paul during the storm.

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  > Suggestions for who to send a 450i for repair?
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Re: [WISPA] Need 10Mb service Kenner, LA (ANYONE?)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

You might try FISPA... ?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Carullo 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:45 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Need 10Mb service Kenner, LA (ANYONE?)


  Asked before no love 


  900 Airline Drive
  Room C102-130 Gate C2
  Kenner, LA 70062


  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  Florida High Speed Internet
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Changing the subject to real choice tv , can we insert local commercials into 
that system?

can i tag people in email?  Lol  @layne sisk...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Hogg 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??


  They just can't stop marketing to your customers.  Once you give them Dish 
Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and continually 
blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve, including gift card 
offers, etc.


  Regards,
  Chuck


  On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

The price includes support with server plus...so them.




-Sean




On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:

  Who supports it, you or them?


  On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

Hi William,


The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the 
same as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth 
capacity because our clients are already streaming video.  


As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and 
they can give you their pricing.  


We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub 
to our bottom line.  


-Sean


On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell 
 wrote:

  Sean,


  I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds 
and network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?


  On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list 
and advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold 
satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.


We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) 
live streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.


-Sean






On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
 wrote:

  Hello All,


  We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the 
"Opportunity" to bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The 
representative has told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in 
other areas of the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any 
success or failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  
I am just looking for feedback.


  Thank You in Advance!


  Scott Pope
  Network and Operations Officer
  Arbuckle Communications, LLC
  Office: 580-226-1234
  Mobile: 580-277-1108
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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Rooms for Memphis show

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

thought i'd actually reply using the right subject line

i thought about getting a small house via homeaway or vrbo as i'm planning to 
bring six
but i went ahead and booked in the new hotel.
thanks Trina!

Now to figure out if all six are actually coming or not




  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: Principal WISPA Member List ; Trina Coffey,Director of Operations 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Rooms for Memphis show


  26/night for valet


  But there is a church parking lot across the street




  Josh Luthman
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Paul McNary  wrote:

Trina does the Sheraton have free parking?

Thanks

Paul McNary

pmcn...@cameron.net




On 2/13/2017 3:44 PM, Trina Coffey, Director of Operations via WISP wrote:

  The room block is currently full.  The Sheraton is also sold out on 
Tuesday night, March 14th.  



  I am currently trying to secure an additional block at another hotel 
close by.  If you have not booked your room yet please be patient, I should 
have something later today or tomorrow.



  Please check back to the website for updates.  
http://www.wispa.org/events/WISPAmerica/addl_info/hotel



  Respectfully,



  Trina Coffey

  Director of Operations

  WISPA

  260-622-5775 direct

  866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)

  530-227-6696 cell

  www.wispa.org 



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Re: [WISPA] Anyone having issues with EPMP APs easily dying?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

not here either.  in fact, see more failures on ubnt gear than anything else, 
and even that is lower now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone having issues with EPMP APs easily dying?


  No

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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  On Sep 19, 2016 4:47 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

See way too many failures on Epmp Aps during storms.. Other radios survive 
while Epmp APs die


Anyone else seeing this? 


  Gino Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 





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Re: [WISPA] FM Radio interference

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Is this an AM radio station?
Give me the call sign of the station (FM or AM) and I'll look up its output 
power for you


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Evans 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM Radio interference


  Something not right there, does the station engineer know that?






  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: Marco Coelho  
  Date: 8/4/16 5:47 PM (GMT-05:00) 
  To: WISPA General List  
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM Radio interference 


  We're 60 feet away from the shack.   The antenna excites the tower to the 
point of shocking you if you touch the steel with 40' of the antenna array.



  On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Jeff Evans  wrote:

Besides Mike's fiber, I'd be suspect of the equipment in the shack if
you're near the transmitter.
A problem is more likely there imo.


Quoting Josh Luthman :

> I thought we were missing something ITT.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> *clears throat*
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>>
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Marco Coelho" 
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
>> *Sent: *Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:18:59 PM
>> *Subject: *[WISPA] FM Radio interference

>>
>> I have an existing tower that has a FM transmitter on it.  I believe they
>> are just under 10,000 Watts.
>> Since we have been one that tower, I could never link up Ethernet that
>> runs up the tower to the equipment on the bottom at 100BT.  I've tried
>> ferrite rings on both ends, all cables are shielded and grounded.  Always
>> had to go to 10BT to get a link.
>>
>> I moved our radios 35 feet away from the bottom their antennas and still
>> cannot link at 100BT.
>>
>> The new radios require 1000BT too use them to full advantage.  Ideas?
>>
>> I'm considering conduit all the way up the tower.  I don't want to put
>> switches at the top.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

He said "real" good ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?


  As opposed to bad? :P. 

  On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman  wrote:


"Good"?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jun 18, 2016 8:02 AM, "Matt Hoppes"  
wrote:

  True. It's good though. Real good. 

  On Jun 18, 2016, at 02:24, Chris Ruschmann  wrote:


We all had to sign an NDA. So I'll let the baicells guys answer that 
one.

On Jun 17, 2016 9:05 PM,  wrote:

  Whats the pricing like?

  On Jun 17, 2016, at 19:12, Matt Hoppes 
 wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/thewirelessninja/videos/1017353051688688/

On Jun 17, 2016, at 21:07, Christian Palecek 
 wrote:


  Ours*  brain fart.


  We are deploying in one of our most difficult nlos areas, and 
another in a small town center so we'll have a variety of testing.






  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: Christian Palecek  
  Date: 6/17/16 7:02 PM (GMT-07:00) 
  To: WISPA General List  
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? 


  We'll have ares up pretty quick, don't have a SU yet though.  
Only getting one I guess.






  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


   Original message 
  From: Chris Ruschmann  
  Date: 6/17/16 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00) 
  To: WISPA General List  
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? 


  I should have mine deployed next week as well. Just received the 
gear today.

  On Jun 17, 2016 1:11 PM, "Mike Francis" 
 wrote:

  By: Douglas Adams 

  "Man [has] always assumed that he was more intelligent 
than dolphins because he had achieved so much-the wheel, New York, wars and so 
on-while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a 
good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far 
more intelligent than man-for precisely the same reason." 


John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly Technologies
Internet - Voip - Cloud
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com


On 6/17/2016 4:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Anxiously awaiting your results...and a quote!




  Josh Luthman
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  On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Mike Francis 
 wrote:

We received our first shipment of gear this week and plan 
on beginning
deployment next week. Will let you guys know. We are doing 
a mix-use
test roll out with a gov cyber task force, so it will be 
well documented.

Best regards,

John Michael Francis II
JMF Solutions, Inc
Wavefly Technologies
Internet - Voip - Cloud
251-517-5069
http://jmfsolutions.net
http://wavefly.com


On 6/17/2016 3:05 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> I believe the canary would say people have deployed but 
can not speak
> yet :P  Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will 
forth come very
> soon.
>
> On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear 
deployed?  Care
>> to comment on/off list?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] [Telrad] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Heh :) 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, tel...@wispa.org 
tel...@wispa.org
Subject: [Telrad] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!
Date: Wed, Dec 31, 2014 3:58 PM
God help the Leary family. My wife just walked in with an armful of fireworks. 
I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers and toes. Oochie 
momma.

Happy New everyone. 





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National Sales Director
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M
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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who prints checks?




  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  From: James Howard ja...@litewire.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



  That never ends well on Windows servers =(






  Josh Luthman
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  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule 
you specify...  since at least XP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily use 
Quickbooks every day.






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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

  So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it takes 
to update?



  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it is 
done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is a 
simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...






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  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

Do you even Linux updates, bro?

I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment is 
larger than yours?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't be 
a big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.






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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

  I used to have it running on a Windows server in my virtual 
environment...  until that server (Windows 2003) finally died.

  Run it in your existing virtual environment?



  -
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  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:38:13 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Think that could end up being noticeably less than $50 a month?






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  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

  

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

all our tower rent tenents
any bill that comes in
paychecks
i'm happy with it.
for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and i 
can't see when the other party cashed it.
we write nearly 100 checks a month

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

  I haven't written a check in years.




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  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

   

  i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Who prints checks?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: James Howard ja...@litewire.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



That never ends well on Windows servers =(






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1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

  Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a schedule 
you specify...  since at least XP.



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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily 
use Quickbooks every day.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
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  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it 
takes to update?



-
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http://www.ics-il.com






From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once it 
is done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which is 
a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before and 
after halt...






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Do you even Linux updates, bro?

  I didn't find the resource usage excessive, but maybe my environment 
is larger than yours?



  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:40:54 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  I am now.  I want to get away from it.  If it was Linux it wouldn't 
be a big deal but the Windows updates and excessive resources make it a pain.






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

ah - we are a corporation.  who owns the credit card?

if you're a sole, it's much easier

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  I couldn't care less when they deposit it. If it's over 30 days, my bank 
e-mails me.

  For many things, it will direct deposit them.

  bill the CC anything that I can, autopay the CC, bank's billpay the rest.




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  From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:31:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

   

  all our tower rent tenents
  any bill that comes in
  paychecks
  i'm happy with it.
  for one, if i have the bank write the check the money comes out instantly and 
i can't see when the other party cashed it.
  we write nearly 100 checks a month

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


Who are you writing checks to and why aren't you doing something better?

I haven't written a check in years.




-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:05:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

 

i wouldn't know what to do if we DIDN'T print checks

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Who prints checks?




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  From: James Howard ja...@litewire.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:12:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts


  Are you printing checks from QB?  If you use a 3rd party program to print 
checks using blank check stock, you aren’t going to have much luck with QB 
online.  There were a bunch of other issues too but the conversion process did 
not go smoothly either.  Then when we converted back, we lost something like 6 
months of bank account information and had to re-enter it all.  





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts



  That never ends well on Windows servers =(






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
wrote:

Windows will automatically install most updates on its own at a 
schedule you specify...  since at least XP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com






From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:54:06 PM


Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

You need to update the thing every week, of course.  Don't necessarily 
use Quickbooks every day.






Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

  So if you don't use it on a continual basis, who cares how long it 
takes to update?



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com




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  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:46:19 PM


  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

  Updating on Linux is so much faster and cleaner than Windows.  Once 
it is done you don't even have to reboot unless you want the new kernel...which 
is a simple reboot and isn't an extended reboot doing more installing before 
and after halt...






  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St

Re: [WISPA] Some of our storm damage

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

storm that came through mon evening that did us considerable stress (since we 
were in vegas)we survived it tho.
NWS confirmed 100 mph winds.

nice meeting you!  (if i hadn't already...)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Clay Stewart 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some of our storm damage


  Last night?

  On Oct 19, 2014 4:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:



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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I have confirmed we are experiencing this today as well.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Adair Winter 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade


  ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some errors.
  you?


  On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it.  They said it's due to a 
blank result from IPPay.  Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't see an 
error instead of a blank page.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

  Not sure why bash would be relevant at all.  I would be extremely 
disappointed if it was involved.





  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


Yesreread your message.  Should have read it closer.  Looks like 
the problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ?  Our auto 
transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until tomorrow 
but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue.  I'll alert the staff..

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM




10.03.09?





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


  Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 10.03.09.  In 
factI have confirmed two of us in our company took payments on Friday 
manually on two different computers in two different locations and had no 
problems...

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone


  - Reply message -
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA]PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
  Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:29 PM




  I do not believe we have encountered this yet. curious have you 
tried to take a payment through the customer portal?

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone


  - Reply message -
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
  Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM




  Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm 
not sure if automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 
(their released version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it 
redirects to a blank page.  No event logs for the account on this.



  I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our 
checking account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I 
personally did a manual card charge successfully.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I have told our office to call in.  I'll also reboot the apache service.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Westlake 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade


  Looks like this was a DNS problem, it had nothing to do with the 10.03.09 
update. I'm not sure if the IP of the IPPay gateway changed, but restarting 
Apache (service httpd restart) will flush the cache Apache uses and force an 
update. If it still doesn't work after that, let me know. Most of the tickets 
we've seen over the weekend on this have been solved by a server reboot (which 
accomplishes the same thing.)

  I don't know exactly what happened/changed yet, but that's what I have so far.

  Anyone who is still having this, please make sure you are opening a ticket on 
it with us (supp...@powercode.com / 920-351-1010) and not just posting here.. I 
want to make sure you get assistance.


  On 9/29/2014 9:48 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it.


On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

  Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with 
me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). 






  On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com 
wrote:

Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not 
that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the 
payment problem you are/were experiencing. 



On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

  [root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful
  Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist
  httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for 
powercode.amarillowireless.net
  httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified 
domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName


  I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it 
anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :)




  On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

No.  What errors did you get?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter 
ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

  ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some 
errors. 
  you?


  On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it.  They said it's 
due to a blank result from IPPay.  Couldn't get an answer as to why we couldn't 
see an error instead of a blank page.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Not sure why bash would be relevant at all.  I would be 
extremely disappointed if it was involved.





  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


Yesreread your message.  Should have read it closer.  
Looks like the problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ?  Our 
auto transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until 
tomorrow but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue.  I'll alert the 
staff..

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone


- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the 
upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM




10.03.09?





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


  Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 
10.03.09.  In factI have confirmed two of us in our company took payments 
on Friday manually on two different computers in two different locations and 
had no problems...

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Restarting apache fixed us up.  We were on hold to talk to someone at powercode 
but hung up since the
problem was resolved.

  - Original Message - 
  From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade



  I have told our office to call in.  I'll also reboot the apache service.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon Westlake 
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade


Looks like this was a DNS problem, it had nothing to do with the 10.03.09 
update. I'm not sure if the IP of the IPPay gateway changed, but restarting 
Apache (service httpd restart) will flush the cache Apache uses and force an 
update. If it still doesn't work after that, let me know. Most of the tickets 
we've seen over the weekend on this have been solved by a server reboot (which 
accomplishes the same thing.)

I don't know exactly what happened/changed yet, but that's what I have so 
far.

Anyone who is still having this, please make sure you are opening a ticket 
on it with us (supp...@powercode.com / 920-351-1010) and not just posting 
here.. I want to make sure you get assistance.


On 9/29/2014 9:48 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

  I'll pull the ticket shortly and look at it.


  On 9/29/2014 9:40 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

Just tested, still doesn't work. I'll wait for someone to get back with 
me. I think we opened two tickets on the issue (by accident). 






On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com 
wrote:

  Those errors won't cause any problems, none of them are critical. Not 
that they shouldn't be fixed.. but they don't indicate any issue related to the 
payment problem you are/were experiencing. 



  On 9/29/2014 9:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

[root@powercode ~]# apachectl -k graceful
Warning: DocumentRoot [/var/www/qbwc] does not exist
httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for 
powercode.amarillowireless.net
httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified 
domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName


I maybe needed additional arguments. not going to fool with it 
anymore and let the people who should actually be messing with it, fix it. :)




On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  No.  What errors did you get?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Sep 29, 2014 10:25 AM, Adair Winter 
ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

ran yum updates again. then apachectl graceful returned some 
errors. 
you?


On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Do an apachectl graceful and it should fix it.  They said 
it's due to a blank result from IPPay.  Couldn't get an answer as to why we 
couldn't see an error instead of a blank page.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Sep 28, 2014 10:15 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Not sure why bash would be relevant at all.  I would be 
extremely disappointed if it was involved.





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


  Yesreread your message.  Should have read it closer.  
Looks like the problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ?  Our 
auto transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until 
tomorrow but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue.  I'll alert the 
staff..

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone


  - Reply message -
  From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the 
upgrade
  Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM




  10.03.09?





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  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy

Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I do not believe we have encountered this yet. curious have you tried to 
take a payment through the customer portal?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM
Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not sure if 
automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their released 
version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a blank 
page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 10.03.09.  In factI 
have confirmed two of us in our company took payments on Friday manually on two 
different computers in two different locations and had no problems...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:29 PM
I do not believe we have encountered this yet. curious have you tried to 
take a payment through the customer portal?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM


Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not sure if 
automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their released 
version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a blank 
page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yes.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM
10.03.09?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 10.03.09.  In factI 
have confirmed two of us in our company took payments on Friday manually on two 
different computers in two different locations and had no problems...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:29 PM



I do not believe we have encountered this yet. curious have you tried to 
take a payment through the customer portal?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM


Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not sure if 
automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their released 
version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a blank 
page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Obviously a common denominator here somewhere.  Are both of you using ippay ? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:53 PM
We can't process manual payments either.. 
On Sep 28, 2014 8:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not 
sure if automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their 
released version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a 
blank page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373


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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

When did you both upgrade ?  We were on this version Friday when we took 
payments...also processed through ippay.  I did not pay attention to see of any 
transactions went through todayI will tho 

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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:59 PM
I am

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

Obviously a common denominator here somewhere.  Are both of you using ippay ? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:53 PM


We can't process manual payments either.. 
On Sep 28, 2014 8:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not 
sure if automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their 
released version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a 
blank page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Nothing posted in our system today since the 3 am transactions 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:59 PM
I am

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

Obviously a common denominator here somewhere.  Are both of you using ippay ? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

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From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:53 PM


We can't process manual payments either.. 
On Sep 28, 2014 8:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not 
sure if automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their 
released version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a 
blank page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We did the patch toobut was late in the evening one day.  Friday night 
perhaps ? 

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From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 9:07 PM
We upgraded to 10.03.09 Thursday or Friday and everything was fine.We had three 
installs scheduled on Saturday and the first one worked fine.Per the email 
powercode sent out requesting to run updates on centos for the bash exploit I 
ran yum -y update. It seems as of that time we haven't been able to process any 
payments. I went in and rolled back the sent os updates, nothing. rebooted, 
nothing.And yes, we are on IPPay.
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

When did you both upgrade ?  We were on this version Friday when we took 
payments...also processed through ippay.  I did not pay attention to see of any 
transactions went through todayI will tho 

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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:59 PM


I am

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

Obviously a common denominator here somewhere.  Are both of you using ippay ? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:53 PM


We can't process manual payments either.. 
On Sep 28, 2014 8:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not 
sure if automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their 
released version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a 
blank page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


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Re: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yesreread your message.  Should have read it closer.  Looks like the 
problem is related to the yum patch...assuming you did it ?  Our auto 
transactions are workingprobably won't take another manual until tomorrow 
but appreciate the heads up there may be an issue.  I'll alert the staff..

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- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:50 PM
10.03.09?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:

Fyi...I can confirm we have taken manual payments on 10.03.09.  In factI 
have confirmed two of us in our company took payments on Friday manually on two 
different computers in two different locations and had no problems...

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From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:29 PM



I do not believe we have encountered this yet. curious have you tried to 
take a payment through the customer portal?

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- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PSA Powercode users - careful on the upgrade
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2014 8:13 PM


Just found out this evening that we can't do manual payments.  I'm not sure if 
automatic will work in the morning.  I'm currently on 10.03.09 (their released 
version).  After you click OK for the payment amount it redirects to a blank 
page.  No event logs for the account on this.
I upgraded last Tuesday.  Automatic charges from 9/24 are in our checking 
account marked 9/26 so I believe that is working.  On 9/26 I personally did a 
manual card charge successfully.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



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Re: [WISPA] canopy interface issue

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

 I see this from time to time using a different channel or if the encryption 
isn't really set right.

  - Original Message - 
  From: heith 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:04 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] canopy interface issue


  Last week we had to replace a canopy AP due to some unknown failure. The new 
one seems to work fine however on both sessions lists a majority of the users 
do not show a name. Of course I cannot click into those subscribers from the 
session lists as well. I can key into them via a private address. I know I need 
to update the radio, was kind of a rush job. Below is a shot of what its 
showing me. I assume that I will need to do an update one at a time for each 
radio, I am a little behind on our canopy updates in some places. I am a little 
scared to do it considering the circumstances.

   



   

  Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

While we're at it, who knows anyone at dollar general?
There's one per every 1.5 miles in this town now.
I am NOT kidding.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sam 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers


  Josh,

  Broadband Consultants (information included below) work with several 
  Tier I providers.

  www.broadbandconsultants.com
  meg...@broadbandconsultants.com
  Ph: 888-488-BROADBAND Ext 1025

  Also, have you checked to see if Hurricane Electric is available in the 
  area where you are needing service?

  Thanks, and good luck!
  Sam



  On 8/12/2014 10:38, Josh Luthman wrote:
   I'm looking for a few people that have deals with multiple carriers
   like Level 3, Cogent, Verizon, etc.
  
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
  
   On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
   mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote:
  
   I guess part of it depends on where and what.  If you are going into
   a co-lo then ethernet is much easier to sell separate from transport.
  
   Justin
  
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   From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
   Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
   mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   Date: Monday, August 11, 2014 at 7:14 PM
  
   To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
   Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers
  
   Does anyone have some contacts?
  
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   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
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Re: [WISPA] Tech support call hits right in the feels

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

the recent storms have had our backlog to about a week in some cases.  i've 
felt like some of the people calling could have done something like this.  
interesting read, none the less.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:15 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Tech support call hits right in the feels


  When you can sit down and take a few minutes to read this short story, I'd 
suggest you do.  I'd almost make this mandatory for any new tech.


  
http://np.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/28qemm/dont_bother_sending_a_tech_ill_be_dead_by_then/


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Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

For $750 / month and 4k startup i'll put up a tower and sell space on it.  Geez.
Can't even get rent here for that in some parts of town
  - Original Message - 
  From: Zach Underwood 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's


  Example. I got pricing from ATC for 200 foot of 250 foot tower in a in a very 
well to do part of town for $750 mrc. Setup cost was $4k. 



  On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

How pricing looked like?






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www.aeronetpr.com   
@aeronetpr






From: Zach Underwood z...@zachunderwood.me
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Friday, May 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's




http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/solutions/solutions-for-industries/wireless-internet-service-providers/index.htm




On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Adair Winter 
ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

  American tower, yes

  On May 23, 2014 9:42 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

Who has the Wisp friendly program? American Towers?






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Re: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Apparently the more you know, the more in demand you are in this industry...
seems to work that way locally here, too :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darin Steffl 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 6:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?


  I have been contacted and things are moving along now. He sent new contact 
information that I was never made aware of when we first started.


  http://www.mtin.net/contact.html 




  On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:57 PM, TJ Trout t...@pcguys.us wrote:

I also engaged Justin for a project and it never went anywhere. I have also 
had the same results with other consultants. I actually engaged Justin because 
my other consultant fell through. Go figure.




On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

  Darin,
  I will have Andrew send you an e-mail from supp...@mtin.net.


  Just for everyone’s reference if you need to get ahold of “me” you can do 
so at the following:
  Phone: 317.644.2224
  Email: supp...@mtin.net


  I wrote a little blog post this morning as kind of “therapy” for me.  As 
many of you know I have been a principal in a WISP we started after the failed 
sale of NDWave to another company.
  http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=50


  The sale of ZigWireless has been my latest “project”.  I am personally 
invested in this so my future of getting this done has been a top priority.  So 
much so that everything else has suffered as a result.  The life of a WISP. 
LOL.  I feel like a “Veteran” after being in the ISP business since 1993.


  Just so this isn’t just about me, if anyone wants to know my thoughts on 
a sale from a tech perspective hit me up off list and I will be glad to share.


  Justin


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  From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?



I have been trying to get ahold of Justin Wilson who started a project 
for me in April and he was out of commission for a little bit but now I haven't 
heard from him since. I have called his cell #, sent him 5 emails to 
j...@mtin.net with no response and I don't know how to get ahold of him. I see 
he has sent emails out to the list multiple times in the last few weeks but 
he's never responded to me. 


Anyone have any special tricks to get him to talk? My project is quite 
simple and he said it would take no more than 2 hours tops but he hasn't done 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i am interested in this as well - in canopy, there is an overload counter and 
some other things we can look at
not sure what to look at from a ubnt standpoint - although i know with 5.6 beta 
there are more snmp things
you can monitor (as in - SOME snmp readable items at all)

we have an access point with 19 on it currentlyi don't think we have any 
with more than 19

  - Original Message - 
  From: Faisal Imtiaz 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put


  My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).


  Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...


  So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

  How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?


   Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit


  Bridged ? Routed ?  
  What is doing Traffic Shaping ?


  How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.


  I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..


  :)


  Regards.




  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet  Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232



  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 




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Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put



Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of 
these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. 


What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when 
they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests 
to the radios and they look ok.


Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.


Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to 
one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to 
watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He 
ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. 


Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?


We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need 
to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. 


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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

would be nice to do a spin cyclea rinseand dry.
maybe i should be doing laundry...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put


  I wish radios had a metric like duty cycle. It would tell you what percent of 
the time the radio is busy, regardless of underlying causes (throughput, 
interference, etc.)




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  Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of 
these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. 


  What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok.


  Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.


  Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. 


  Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?


  We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need 
to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. 


  Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.


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Re: [WISPA] Test

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Horrible.  Just horrible 

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I can't read it... was skooled in a WV 2 room school house and was no good at 
tests.

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Re: [WISPA] OT Email Receipt

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I have a few customer / admin customers who use it in my consulting biz.  If 
i'm reading the email timely - i'll send the receipt.  If not, i won't. LOL.  
It's windows mail / outlook express

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Email Receipt


  There is but no one really uses it nowadays.  I remember seeing it used on 
Outlook (Express?)

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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  On Apr 2, 2014 10:04 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

My owners asked this. Is there a way or a protocol that will allow you to 
be notified that an email recipient received or viewed your email, even if they 
refuse to acknowledge notification receipt? I don't think there is but they 
seem to think they read something a while back

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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

The last seller (from November) has already moved out of the area but is still 
very active with us in discussions, leads, where to expand service too, etc - 
and he should be.  He's still got skin in the game.  His payments are based on 
monthly income moving forward.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Hass, Douglas A. 
  To: Matt Hoppes ; WISPA General List 
  Cc: can...@believewireless.net 
  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  That last point is the one you should focus on. If your goal is to get it 
over as quickly as you can, find a deal structure that helps you do that. Many 
times that will mean cash, which many have pointed out during this discussion 
could come from many different sources. Keep your goals as your primary focus, 
not the mechanics of a deal structure.



  Doug



  -- Original message --
  From: Matt Hoppes
  Date: 3/20/2014 7:46 AM
  To: WISPA General List;
  Cc: can...@believewireless.net;
  Subject:Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

  Cash is king. And the borrower is servant to the lender. Just saying. It's 
always better to just get it over with when you can.

  On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:32 AM, Hass, Douglas A. 
d...@franczek.commailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:

  You and I are on the same page here.

  The short answer to those on this list:

  If your business attorney or CPA is telling you “Always do cash deals” or 
“Never use seller financing,” then thank them for their time and find someone 
else to advise you who is comfortable advising sellers on a full range of 
options, guiding them to the best ones, and is including the right protections 
for you.


  The longer answer:

  Here’s why we’re on the same page.  The first question is not “Is the offer 
100% cash?” but “Why am I selling?”  The second question is “What do I want out 
of the sale?”  That’s what you’re doing below.

  A couple people have expressed concern about getting the business back if 
something goes wrong.  There are many ways to structure that deal so as to 
greatly minimize the time or expense of getting the business back, as I’ve 
mentioned elsewhere.

  Your concern is getting out entirely.  There are many ways to structure that 
deal.  100% cash is one way to do it.  Another that I mentioned during the 
course of this is through an annuity (which you have the option of selling to 
get cash or keeping to get the higher payments, according to your risk 
tolerance).  You can do sweep accounts where the bank guarantees that you get 
paid first as money comes in coupled with business insurance options.  The deal 
structure that might work best for you will depend first on your goals as a 
seller, second on your buyer, and finally on your risk tolerance.

  Saying “I’ll only take 100% cash” is definitely an option, and sometimes the 
best one, but it’s never the only one.  If you have an advisor locking you into 
an all-cash deal, that’s a sign that he or she may not be the best advisor for 
you.  I’ll even bet that they’re probably missing things even in that all-cash 
deal they’re drawing up for you.

  If anyone here on the list ever wants some confidential guidance on how to 
structure a deal, language to put in an agreement, or about sales/purchases 
generally, I’m happy to help share what I can and get you pointed to the right 
advisor (attorney, CPA, whoever) to help (and I’ll be happy to contribute to 
the employment piece of whatever deal you do).

  Doug


  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
can...@believewireless.netmailto:can...@believewireless.net
  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:27 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

  I had a meeting a couple weeks ago with a company looking to buy us. They 
have deep pockets and were looking at cash only deal. If I'm looking to sell, 
it's obviously because I want to go in a different direction. The last thing 
I'd want to do is go through the enter sale process only to have to take the 
company back at a later date. Even if I was able to get my company back 
immediately months later with zero customer loss, the time, effort and lost 
growth just aren't worth the risk in my opinion.

  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Hass, Douglas A. 
d...@franczek.commailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:
  Primary housing is a different deal altogether.  Unlike businesses, where you 
can get immediate repossession, you often can’t with housing.

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:02 PM

  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  Then why do people sell houses on owner financing ?

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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  From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.netmailto:li...@mtin.net
  To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

You also must provide financials - which you did not to us - last time you 
talked to us about selling. :)
(not eagle one, but surfmore)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eagle One Wireless 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies contact us.
  I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we decided
  not to sell.

  Thanks,

  Kevin Melson
  Eagle One Wireless
  1505 Hwy 72 E
  Corinth, MS 38834
  662-287-1722
  e...@e1w.com
  www.e1w.com




  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ryan Morgan
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:30 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP

  What is the current rate for selling your ISP! I would like to sell, for
  health reasons.
  Thanks for your help!
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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We were looking to buy last year and diddoubled our size, now we are 
adjusting. :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Randy Cosby 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big 
buyer (Jab) lately.



  On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:


The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is 
about 1.5x annual revenue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eagle One Wireless 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies contact 
us.
  I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we decided
  not to sell.

  Thanks,

  Kevin Melson
  Eagle One Wireless
  1505 Hwy 72 E
  Corinth, MS 38834
  662-287-1722
  e...@e1w.com
  www.e1w.com




  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ryan Morgan
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:30 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP

  What is the current rate for selling your ISP! I would like to sell, for
  health reasons.
  Thanks for your help!
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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Depends on how bad you want to sell ...we don't always want to buy. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:08 PM
Cameron— 

There’s lots of ways to structure the deal so that you’re protected, even if 
the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn’t have cash up 
front.  
If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don’t let the all-cash restriction 
prevent you from making a deal.  If you end up in court chasing payments from 
the buyer, then you likely didn’t draft your agreement carefully enough given 
your tolerance for risk 
(of course, your due diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an 
imbecile, and that information should inform what kind of deal you’re willing 
to accept). 

To categorically reject buyers who don’t have 100% cash to hand you at closing 
might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from someone who 
can put together a more attractive end package.  In that sense, it works like 
selling real estate.  The all-cash offer isn’t always your best one. 

To Randy’s point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of the 
senior executive staff have departed in the last few months.  That might 
account 
for some of the quietness.  I don’t have any inside information, just what I 
learned trying to round up potential panelists and speakers for WISPAmerica. 

Doug 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Cameron Crum

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP 


The seller is not a bank. Why should they take on all the risk? What happens if 
the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the network into the ground and 
defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing for money you will most likely 
never 
see, and even if you retake possession of the network, it may be in shambles or 
most of your customers have left. We walked away from a couple of buyers who 
would not pony up the cash. I'd say as one who sold a wisp, if the buyer can't 
afford it, or can't 
arrange their own financing, you don't want to sell.  




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: 


There's many more buyers out there. 







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From:  
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 

Sent:  
Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00:34 AM 




Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP



Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big buyer 
(Jab) lately.





On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: 






The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is about 
1.5x annual revenue 

















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We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies contact us.

I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we decided

not to sell.



Thanks,



Kevin Melson

Eagle One Wireless

1505 Hwy 72 E

Corinth, MS 38834

662-287-1722

e...@e1w.com

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-Original Message-

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Ryan Morgan

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:30 AM

To: wireless@wispa.org

Subject

Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Then why do people sell houses on owner financing ? 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:50 PM
Having been a part of a deal gone bad I recommend cash up front.  Once you hand 
over the keys it’s pretty hard to get it back.  If you have to go to Litigation 
you are going to be spending money out of pocket for attorneys.  I agree with 
Cameron.   Cash at closing. If you don’t do 100% cash at closing you should be 
prepared to not see another dime if you do anything else.
I know ISPs who sold, got some money at closing, and then ended up spending 
twice that money on attorney fees and still ended up with nothing.  Selling a 
business should be like selling a high dollar item.  If I was going to sell a 
car I sure wouldn’t sell it on contract.   Too many things can go wrong.
If I had 100% ownership in an ISP today and wanted to sell I would take a hit 
on the overall price.  If then user couldn’t afford it and I really needed to 
sell for whatever reason I would simply take a lower price.  Less stress that 
way.
Justin

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From:  Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com
Reply-To:  WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wednesday, March 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM
To:  WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject:  Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

Cameron— There’s lots of ways to structure the deal so that you’re protected, 
even if the buyer is a complete imbecile and even if the buyer doesn’t have 
cash up front. 
If you want to sell or if you want to buy, don’t let the all-cash restriction 
prevent you from making a deal.  If you end up in court chasing payments from 
the buyer, then you likely didn’t draft your agreement carefully enough given 
your tolerance for risk
(of course, your due diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an 
imbecile, and that information should inform what kind of deal you’re willing 
to accept). To categorically reject buyers who don’t have 100% cash to hand you 
at closing might mean leaving money on the table or more flexible terms from 
someone who
can put together a more attractive end package.  In that sense, it works like 
selling real estate.  The all-cash offer isn’t always your best one. To Randy’s 
point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of the senior 
executive staff have departed in the last few months.  That might account
for some of the quietness.  I don’t have any inside information, just what I 
learned trying to round up potential panelists and speakers for WISPAmerica. 
Doug From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP The seller is not a bank. Why should they take 
on all the risk? What happens if the buyer is a complete imbecile and runs the 
network into the ground and defaults on payments? Now you are in court suing 
for money you will most likely never
see, and even if you retake possession of the network, it may be in shambles or 
most of your customers have left. We walked away from a couple of buyers who 
would not pony up the cash. I'd say as one who sold a wisp, if the buyer can't 
afford it, or can't
arrange their own financing, you don't want to sell.  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 
1:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:There's many more buyers 
out there. 


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http://www.ics-il.com From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgSent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 
11:00:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


Is anyone actually buying right now?  I haven't heard much about the big buyer 
(Jab) lately.

On 3/19/2014 9:49 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: The going rate, we've seen (and 
has been discussed here many times), is about 1.5x annual revenue
Douglas
A. 
Hass
Associate
312.786.6502
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Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We are four months in on THIS deal and have made every payment.  About two 
years ago we did another albeit smaller deal ...made every payment on it too.

As a buyer...I guess I see this differently

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:52 PM
Of course there are lots of ways to get money too, besides banks. When it comes 
down to it, I don't care where the money comes from, as long as it isn't my 
pocket.
The guy we ended up using was an attorney and cpa and had done nothing but put 
together business sales of all kinds for the last 40 years. He had actually 
just retired but came back to do our deal as a favor to one of our partners. He 
said a strong majority of the seller financed deals ended with the sellers 
seeing less than promised for one reason or another. What he told us was that 
if you are going to finance it, don't expect to ever see anything past the down 
payment. Treat the financed portion like an unexpected bonus. I followed Steve 
Miller's advice, Went ahead, took the money, and ran.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote:









Next time you talk to the business attorney or accountant, ask them ldquo;How 
many purchase agreements for ISPs, telecom companies, and Internet/web 
properties have
you negotiated?rdquo;

Irsquo;ll bet you a beer at the next WISPA show that the answer is either 
ldquo;Nonerdquo; or ldquo;1rdquo;


Doug


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:16 PM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


Every business attorney and accountant has told me the same thing, cash only.




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

Doug,




The problem I see with that is that you will most likely have to take the other 
party to court to enforce the terms of your agreement if one of the terms is 
breached. It could take months or even years to get a final judgement at which
time there may be nothing left. This may be good advice for a non-wisp 
business, but in the fast paced world of broadband, customers will likely flee 
before a resolution is reached. If the buyer is left insolvent, you are left 
with nothing, and may be on the
hook for all your  own legal fees. I talked to three different business 
attorneys and they all told me to run from any seller financed deal regardless 
of who the buyer was. Again, if the buyer can't get financing on their own, are 
they a good buyer? 








On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote:


Of course!  You have to have a willing seller and buyer to start.  My point is 
that setting preconditions
before you get started (as a buyer or as a seller) unnecessarily limits what 
you ultimately would be able to do.  Donrsquo;t take options off the table 
until you have a specific deal to consider.  Then is the time to say 
ldquo;Irsquo;m only taking cashrdquo; or ldquo;Irsquo;ll finance,
but only with X, Y, and Z terms that protect me.rdquo;

Doug




From:
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On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:53 PM




To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP









Depends on how bad you want to sell ...we don't always want to buy. 



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From: Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP

Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:08 PM


Cameronmdash;

Therersquo;s lots of ways to structure the deal so that yoursquo;re 
protected, even if the buyer is a complete
imbecile and even if the buyer doesnrsquo;t have cash up front.  If you want 
to sell or if you want to buy, donrsquo;t let the all-cash restriction prevent 
you from making a deal.  If you end up in court chasing payments from the 
buyer, then you likely didnrsquo;t draft
your agreement carefully enough given your tolerance for risk (of course, your 
due diligence should be telling you whether the buyer is an imbecile, and that 
information should inform what kind of deal yoursquo;re willing to accept).


To categorically reject buyers who donrsquo;t have 100% cash to hand you at 
closing might mean leaving
money on the table or more flexible terms from someone who can put together a 
more attractive end package.  In that sense, it works like selling real estate. 
 The all-cash offer isnrsquo;t always your best one.


To Randyrsquo;s point--Jab has undergone a major shakeup at the top.  Many of 
the senior executive staff
have departed in the last few months.  That might account for some of the 
quietness.  I donrsquo;t have any inside information, just what I learned 
trying

Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

The going rate, we've seen (and has been discussed here many times), is about 
1.5x annual revenue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eagle One Wireless 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Selling ISP


  We priced ours at 2.5x gross revenue. We had about 10 companies contact us.
  I would say 5 were serious but they wanted us to finance it so we decided
  not to sell.

  Thanks,

  Kevin Melson
  Eagle One Wireless
  1505 Hwy 72 E
  Corinth, MS 38834
  662-287-1722
  e...@e1w.com
  www.e1w.com




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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Ryan Morgan
  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:30 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: [WISPA] Selling ISP

  What is the current rate for selling your ISP! I would like to sell, for
  health reasons.
  Thanks for your help!
  Jean
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Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ok...well...news to me :)

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- Reply message -
From: David Williamson dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:19 PM
I would disagree.  We have P8 hardware on our network with 12.1 firmware 
installed on them.
David WilliamsonWinchester Wireless  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions 
Yes...p8 hardware does not support  software versions above 7 .3.6

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From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:37 AM Welcoming all knowledge on the P8 platform. I 
seem to have a few of these floating around the network as Backhaul and SM 
gear, did they cap those at 7.3.6? Seems that the SM's are fine to upgrade but 
the backhaul's will have no part in it. I'm really just trying to standardize 
interfaces that our techs see since there were very slight changes in the 8-9.x 
series, but would gladly take any performance/stability increase. Things are 
well under way, with the exception of those few p8's hanging around!

Thanks for all the input so far!Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or 
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transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the 
expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Sean 
Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:If the unit is not in production then you can 
just jump ahead to the latest software version.  However if the radio is 
deployed in a production environment then it's best to follow the path cambium 
has laid out so that settings stick through the upgrade process. 2 cents YMMV 
Sean

On Saturday, March 15, 2014, David Williamson 
dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote:Do you have to follow that path or 
can you just skip up and flash to 12.1?  Is there a purpose for following that 
specific path? David Williamson
Winchester Wireless  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions I contacted Cambium support 
about this recently. The upgrade path the technician gave me was this:7.3.6 - 
8.2.7 – 9.0 – 9.4.2 – 9.5 – 10.3.2 – 10.5 – 11.0..1 - 11.2 - 12.1 They 
also indicated that there were timing changes in 10.x and that causes some 
issues with older firmware. They highly recommend to run the 12.1 firmware 
whenever possible. We are using 12.1 without any issues so far in a couple 
different cells.  Adam Kennedy | Network Engineer
Watch Communications
PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
866-586-1518
adamkenn...@omnicity.net
www.broadbandnetworks.com From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions I have been using:

8.1.5.1 - 8.2.7 - 9.0 - 9.5 - 10.3.2 - 10.5 - 11.2there seems to be some 
debate online about which path to use and this is the one I elected to go with, 
right or wrong. We were stopping at 11.0.1 but I have 11.2 which I assume is 
going to provide some benefit. Anyways, I'm just going to try to even the 
playing field in the direction that I have been heading but I may have to 
escalate this project in order to maintain a good level of service. 

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Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ok...only aps and sms we use extensively are 900 which started at p9 
hardware...so that explains why we weren't otherwise familiar...

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- Reply message -
From: Scott motorolali...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
Date: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:47 PM
P8 SMs will do hardware scheduling, thus they can run versions higher than 
V7.3.6, APs and back hauls do not support hardware scheduling prior to P9 
(supposedly) thus they are limited to the older software-scheduling loads.
Scott
On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:19 PM, David Williamson 
dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote:I would disagree.  We have P8 
hardware on our network with 12.1 firmware installed on them.
David WilliamsonWinchester Wireless  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 1:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions 
Yes...p8 hardware does not support  software versions above 7 ..3.6

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From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:37 AM Welcoming all knowledge on the P8 platform. I 
seem to have a few of these floating around the network as Backhaul and SM 
gear, did they cap those at 7.3.6? Seems that the SM's are fine to upgrade but 
the backhaul's will have no part in it. I'm really just trying to standardize 
interfaces that our techs see since there were very slight changes in the 8-9.x 
series, but would gladly take any performance/stability increase. Things are 
well under way, with the exception of those few p8's hanging around!

Thanks for all the input so far!Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871
419.753.5000

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unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or 
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transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the 
expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Sean 
Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:If the unit is not in production then you can 
just jump ahead to the latest software version.  However if the radio is 
deployed in a production environment then it's best to follow the path cambium 
has laid out so that settings stick through the upgrade process. 2 cents YMMV 
Sean

On Saturday, March 15, 2014, David Williamson 
dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote:Do you have to follow that path or 
can you just skip up and flash to 12.1?  Is there a purpose for following that 
specific path? David Williamson
Winchester Wireless  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions I contacted Cambium support 
about this recently. The upgrade path the technician gave me was this:7.3.6 - 
8.2.7 – 9.0 – 9.4.2 – 9.5 – 10.3.2 – 10.5 – 11.0..1 - 11.2 - 12.1 They 
also indicated that there were timing changes in 10.x and that causes some 
issues with older firmware. They highly recommend to run the 12.1 firmware 
whenever possible. We are using 12.1 without any issues so far in a couple 
different cells.Adam Kennedy | Network Engineer
Watch Communications
PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173
866-586-1518
adamkenn...@omnicity.net
www.broadbandnetworks.com From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions I have been using:

8.1.5.1 - 8.2.7 - 9.0 - 9.5 - 10.3.2 - 10.5 - 11.2there seems to be some 
debate online about which path to use and this is the one I elected to go with, 
right or wrong. We were stopping at 11.0.1 but I have 11.2 which I assume is 
going to provide some benefit. Anyways, I'm just going to try to even the 
playing field in the direction that I have been heading but I may have to 
escalate this project in order to maintain a good level of service. 

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Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yes...p8 hardware does not support  software versions above 7 .3.6

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- Reply message -
From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions
Date: Mon, Mar 17, 2014 12:37 AM
Welcoming all knowledge on the P8 platform. I seem to have a few of these 
floating around the network as Backhaul and SM gear, did they cap those at 
7.3.6? Seems that the SM's are fine to upgrade but the backhaul's will have no 
part in it. I'm really just trying to standardize interfaces that our techs see 
since there were very slight changes in the 8-9.x series, but would gladly take 
any performance/stability increase. Things are well under way, with the 
exception of those few p8's hanging around!


Thanks for all the input so far!
Mark Spring
Systems Analyst

New Knoxville Telephone Company
301 W. South St.
New Knoxville, OH 45871

419.753.5000

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

If the unit is not in production then you can just jump ahead to the latest 
software version.  However if the radio is deployed in a production environment 
then it's best to follow the path cambium has laid out so that settings stick 
through the upgrade process.


2 cents YMMV
Sean

On Saturday, March 15, 2014, David Williamson 
dwilliam...@customcomputersva.com wrote:


Do you have to follow that path or can you just skip up and flash to 12.1?  Is 
there a purpose for following that specific path?

David Williamson


Winchester Wireless  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adam Kennedy


Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions I contacted Cambium support 
about this recently. The upgrade path the technician gave me was this:

7.3.6 - 8.2.7 ndash; 9.0 ndash; 9.4.2 ndash; 9.5 ndash; 10.3.2 
ndash; 10.5 ndash; 11.0..1 - 11.2 - 12.1

They also indicated that there were timing changes in 10.x and that causes some 
issues with older firmware. They highly recommend to run the 12.1 firmware 
whenever possible. We are using 12.1 without any issues so far in a couple 
different cells.

Adam Kennedy | Network Engineer


Watch Communications
PO Box 8 | Rushville, Indiana | 46173


866-586-1518
adamkenn...@omnicity.net
www.broadbandnetworks.com



From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net


Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 at 1:54 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PMP100 Software Revisions

I have been using:



8.1.5.1 - 8.2.7 - 9.0 - 9.5 - 10.3.2 - 10.5 - 11.2there seems to be some 
debate online about which path to use and this is the one I elected to go with, 
right or wrong. We were stopping at 11.0.1 but I have 11.2 which I assume is 
going to provide some benefit. Anyways, I'm just going to try to even the 
playing field in the direction that I have been heading but I may have to 
escalate this project in order to maintain a good level of service. 



Open to suggestion as this unfolds, thanks for your input!



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Re: [WISPA] Packetflux/CMM Alternatives

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Been using them for years, great solution, price is right.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Spring 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:31 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Packetflux/CMM Alternatives


  Folks,


  We are in need of some spare CMM's and I have looked at the packetflux 
offering. Does anybody have any feedback on their results dropping one in place 
of any existing CMM's? Any gotchas I should lookout for? I would be looking to 
provide timing via power since that is how they are run today and it seems like 
this is feasible by combining a few of their solutions. Just looking for 
feedback that will keep me from filling the lab with more solutions that didn't 
live up to their description.


  Thanks,



  Mark Spring
  Systems Analyst

  New Knoxville Telephone Company
  301 W. South St.
  New Knoxville, OH 45871
  419.753.5000

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

How are you differancing pricing between tiers ?

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- Reply message -
From: heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: FW:
Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 7:09 PM
Looks like a friggin dryer vent to me. I have not seen this before, that’s 
my confusion. Its alien to me. Usually I have smarter customers that ask me how 
much data they are doing. Other dump me, then get an outrageous bill from 
Verizon when they watched 15 movies on the Netflix and realize I am not that 
bad. We recently installed a 450 pointed right at this neighborhood and are 
running tests with a banker customer. Looking real good, and I am ready to pump 
out more speed to these customers




From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:46 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:


Looks like a 4G cantenna to me.  What's the confusion?


Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 
Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:




I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour 
away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use her 
4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or service 
around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was laying by her 
house as she was away for the day when we were there, but stated that the new 
equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took this picture and it 
said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the Cantenna I have seen in 
the past. I am real positive that I do not have another WISP in the area. Do 
some WISPS use these devices? The closest business is a John Deere dealership, 
and I am fairly certain their IT would not allow external usage of their 
network, and all of the houses in the area use our service. Anyways just 
curious if any one had any ideas of what they could be using this for. I have 
had other customers cheat WiFi from their neighbors with different Cantennas, 
but I would use a UBNT device to re-distribute the service, if that’s whats 
going on

thanks
heith 




From: 6052801...@mms.att.net 

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
To: he...@mncomm.com 
Subject: FW:
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Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Forrest...what is your offlist email ?

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- Reply message -
From: Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
Date: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:53 AM
I'm going to agree with others...
Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds like 
you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining about the 
ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use than to exceed 
the limits.

I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they should 
be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My experience 
over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific tx power and if 
you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed over.  Even if the 
radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf than is likely needed 
causing an overall rising of the noise floor.

Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all either 
dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you are 
now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which is hard 
to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules.  Which makes us a 
bit grumpy.

I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better 
understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your operations 
which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd drive over 
there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.

In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you reap 
the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:
Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these 
frequencies.Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from 
that platform.First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which 
for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 
5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,

Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.Seems like DFS is such 
a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it.Case in point the new 
NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.

Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 
5170-5875.Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes 
more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both 
wisps and consumers.


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24001 E Mission Suite 50
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Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

What was the solution?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joe Miller 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:24 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] be on the look out for this


  We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis at 
JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network help.I would 
strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions.

   

  Kudos to Mike Francis.

   

  http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573 

   

  Joe Miller

  www.dslbyair.com

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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

a whole he$$ of a lot of us...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Who uses POP?  :-p




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  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change?

  thanks
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Re: [WISPA] HAM colo costs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

$100 / mo

  - Original Message - 
  From: Hwtx 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] HAM colo costs


  We usually let them on in exchange for grounds maintenance.

  Sent from my Ranch Phone

  On Jan 13, 2014, at 10:28 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote:

   For those of you that own towers or just know... What do HAM operators 
   usually get charged for colocation?
   
   
   
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Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

my problem with imap that i've seen is all the packrats in the world never ever 
want to delete their email.
so then they have gigabytes of mail on the server dating back to 2004

  - Original Message - 
  From: heith petersen 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Well, thanks to our new server people we can offer both. Our old provider 
wasn’t able to do IMAP until real recently. So it works both ways. On the 
iphone deal I map not a big deal, its just the other settings that get skewed

  thanks
  heith

  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 9:29 AM
  To: Heith Petersen ; WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPhone email issues

  Who uses POP?  :-p




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



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  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:59:26 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] IPhone email issues


  Just curious if others have been having the same issues with IPhone over the 
last few weeks. I think I have seen it in the past, but for the last 3 weeks I 
have been getting calls, I think due to a recent update, of users having email 
issues with their Iphones. When we walk the customer through the settings, 
account types were switched from pop to IMAP, outgoing security had been 
changed, as well as server ports. Settings that would never, usually, be 
changed by the users. It doesn’t help that these happened during a mail 
conversion we were doing right before. No calls on droids. Anyways, if this is 
true due to a IPhone update, is there a way to tell the phone not to change?

  thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Packages regarding geography

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

That is a good idea 

Sent from my wy too expensive android mobile vzw 4gish device.

- Reply message -
From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Internet Packages regarding geography
Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2013 9:34 PM
What we have done is offer the same packages across the board. If you can't get 
at least the package you want we don't install you. 
On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:11, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:





We are getting to the point in a lot of our markets that we need to offer 
different speed packages. Issue being some markets, being 900 or slightly 
sub-par infrastructure, we wouldn’t be able to promote these packages across 
the 
board. Was curious if others are offering packages to different areas that 
would 
not be possible in some? And if so, do you get any backlash from those who 
cannot get those packages? Is it appropriate to offer extended packages to 
users 
on one tower when another tower down the road wouldn’t be capable of these 
packages? Its bad but we just offer a residential rate, no matter if that 
customer can get 1 meg down via Canopy 900 or close to 10 meg on a UBNT SM. I 
have caught a little heat in an area where we fired up 900 about 4 years ago to 
a market that had only satellite. Then we hooked up a tower in a small town 4 
miles away with UBNT M2 and news spread like wild fire. We went from 40 900 
subs 
to about a dozen, and a pile of radios I don’t want to deploy again.  Shame 
on me for not offering the extended packages at that time for those wanting 
more 
bandwidth.

I also have the area outside my home town that Century Link offers what 
they claim is 12 meg service, but it never gets close. I am constantly adding 
more sectors in these areas, Im getting to the point where I am adding UBNT to 
offload Canopy, then adding more UBNT to offload the UBNT that was offloading 
the Canopy, it gets to be a vicious circle. I am already $20 per month more 
than 
CL, not sure if a lot of customers would stay if I were to charge them more for 
what they are getting now. Once again shame on me. The bosses think the prices 
should be the same across the board, but technically performances cannot be 
matched across the board, plus Im running ragged satisfying existing customers 
when I should be looking at new areas, and start the vicious circle all over 
again LOL.

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower companyBPL trials)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I'll look them up next week - yes - had as many as four connected.  There was 
no master unit, it was all one big bridge, like having them all on a switch

  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower 
companyBPL trials)


  Thanks Jay.

  Did you ever try to get more than one remote to connect to a master without 
doing anything special?

  That’s my ultimate goal. And do you remember the model unit you used?

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:43 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

   

   

  Ralph - pretty sure we used the netgear model units and they did not require 
anything more than plug and pray.  Worked great.

   

- Original Message - 

From: ralph 

To: 'WISPA General List' 

Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

 

Then you may not be talking about what I am talking about.

I think it may have been Duke Power who did some of the 1st generation 
trial/pilots I speak of.  It was quite a while ago,  It was too expensive, 
didn’t work well, and, well, yes it certainly did interfere with licensed users 
(Ham Radio and International broadcasters). It is a part 15 service. It 
transmits on unshielded wires on approximately 2-30 MHz. This covers almost all 
low frequency Ham bands, International broadcast, and CB.  Here is the database 
of the “trials” http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html#Cities  It is way out 
of date, but there is tons of interesting information here. Unfortunately a 
great many of the links are broken.

 

The two most spectacular failures were those of IBEC, (the company I 
believe Clay is describing) who folded January of 2012. They cited the power 
line disruption from the Southeastern Tornadoes as the reason.  These are the 
same tornadoes that tore up several of us here on this list- especially in 
Alabama!  IBEC was competing with WISPS and all the while causing illegal 
interference to FCC licensed users.


http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-shows-ibec-bpl-systems-are-interfering-violating-fcc-rules

 

The second was the City of Manassas, VA, who started their trial way back 
in 2002. The “plug was pulled” on their BPL in July of 2010.

 

A little Google-ing will find you demonstrations of how horrible the 
interference was.

 

The part 15 rules concerning BPL are very interesting:  47 C.F.R. §15.615  
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.615

 

The official database of BPL systems that operators are, per the FCC, 
supposed to list their systems in at least 30 days before beginning operations 
is at  http://www.bpldatabase.org/listing/  IBEC repeatedly violated that FCC 
rule

 

 

 

 

 

The most recent technology (HomePlug) incorporates protection 
(filtering/notching)  for the Amateur bands and is a much more friendly 
neighbor.

 

Speaking of your Radio Shack devices (and I had a lot of them too) – they 
were based on the BSR X10 technology. The 80’s stuff was pretty poor. Later on 
it evolved to be a lot better and even worked bidirectionally, which really 
helped the reliability.  Many home automation companies sprang up to utilize 
the technology. When I was in the burglar business we laughed at the “Car 
Trunkers” trying to sell an alarm based on them- before they were even 2 way.  
My smart thermostat uses the X-10 passive infrared sensors to let it know when 
the different rooms are occupied.

 

And like yours, many of modules are now dead, but I try to keep a few 
around to use to turn the Christmas lights off and on.   That X10 company who 
advertised us to death a few years ago was also responsible for those 2.4 GHz 
analog video cameras that can singlehandedly wipe out the entire 2.4 WiFi band. 
Boy am I glad they don’t advertise like that anymore! They seem to have calmed 
down and are mostly about security and switching again now.

 

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Clay Stewart
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
company BPL trials)

 

Funny to see this today. I was upgrading a customers equipment today who 
works for the Electric company that provided service for BPL here, until it 
failed.

 

He was telling me how they are still, after two years, finding and pulling 
the equipment off their poles and piling them up in a heap.

 

I would like to make a correction on A above

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (notthe failedpower companyBPL trials)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Where in GA are you? :)
Sounds like I need to come rent a boat...

  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (notthe failedpower companyBPL 
trials)


  That’s what I’m looking for, Jay.

   

  When I say “Master”, I mean the one functioning as the backhaul to my 
network. 

  One master on the pole (in the case of MuniWiFi enhancement)  (or in the 
rafters of the covered dock in a marina application) and a number of slaves on 
the boats or in housed, all on the same secondary.  Our marinas have 
transformers on shore and 60-70 boat slips on the single phase secondary. I 
could do the whole dock with 2 masters.

   

  Of course to have a n Ethernet manageable one would be the cat’s meow. Then 
we could authorize the subscribers individually, like a CATV CMTS.

   

  But since  our network is run as a hotspot the size of half a state, they 
still have to get past the captive portal anyway so that’s why Manageable is 
just something really nice but not required.

   

  The WiFi works pretty well in the boats, but some of these yachts have 
basements that the WiFi doesn’t get into or the boats are so big (120-150ft) 
the coverage is poor.

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:22 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower 
companyBPL trials)

   

   

  I'll look them up next week - yes - had as many as four connected.  There was 
no master unit, it was all one big bridge, like having them all on a switch

   

- Original Message - 

From: ralph 

To: 'WISPA General List' 

Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower 
companyBPL trials)

 

Thanks Jay.

Did you ever try to get more than one remote to connect to a master without 
doing anything special?

That’s my ultimate goal. And do you remember the model unit you used?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

 

 

Ralph - pretty sure we used the netgear model units and they did not 
require anything more than plug and pray.  Worked great.

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: ralph 

  To: 'WISPA General List' 

  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

   

  Then you may not be talking about what I am talking about.

  I think it may have been Duke Power who did some of the 1st generation 
trial/pilots I speak of.  It was quite a while ago,  It was too expensive, 
didn’t work well, and, well, yes it certainly did interfere with licensed users 
(Ham Radio and International broadcasters). It is a part 15 service. It 
transmits on unshielded wires on approximately 2-30 MHz. This covers almost all 
low frequency Ham bands, International broadcast, and CB.  Here is the database 
of the “trials” http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html#Cities  It is way out 
of date, but there is tons of interesting information here. Unfortunately a 
great many of the links are broken.

   

  The two most spectacular failures were those of IBEC, (the company I 
believe Clay is describing) who folded January of 2012. They cited the power 
line disruption from the Southeastern Tornadoes as the reason.  These are the 
same tornadoes that tore up several of us here on this list- especially in 
Alabama!  IBEC was competing with WISPS and all the while causing illegal 
interference to FCC licensed users.

  
http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-shows-ibec-bpl-systems-are-interfering-violating-fcc-rules

   

  The second was the City of Manassas, VA, who started their trial way back 
in 2002. The “plug was pulled” on their BPL in July of 2010.

   

  A little Google-ing will find you demonstrations of how horrible the 
interference was.

   

  The part 15 rules concerning BPL are very interesting:  47 C.F.R. §15.615 
 http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.615

   

  The official database of BPL systems that operators are, per the FCC, 
supposed to list their systems in at least 30 days before beginning operations 
is at  http://www.bpldatabase.org/listing/  IBEC repeatedly violated that FCC 
rule

   

   

   

   

   

  The most recent technology (HomePlug) incorporates protection 
(filtering/notching)  for the Amateur bands and is a much more friendly 
neighbor.

   

  Speaking of your Radio Shack devices (and I had a lot of them

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (notthe failedpower companyBPL trials)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

This is the part / part number description from newegg.

POWERLINE NETGEAR|XET1001-100NAR


  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (notthe failedpower companyBPL 
trials)


  That’s what I’m looking for, Jay.

   

  When I say “Master”, I mean the one functioning as the backhaul to my 
network. 

  One master on the pole (in the case of MuniWiFi enhancement)  (or in the 
rafters of the covered dock in a marina application) and a number of slaves on 
the boats or in housed, all on the same secondary.  Our marinas have 
transformers on shore and 60-70 boat slips on the single phase secondary. I 
could do the whole dock with 2 masters.

   

  Of course to have a n Ethernet manageable one would be the cat’s meow. Then 
we could authorize the subscribers individually, like a CATV CMTS.

   

  But since  our network is run as a hotspot the size of half a state, they 
still have to get past the captive portal anyway so that’s why Manageable is 
just something really nice but not required.

   

  The WiFi works pretty well in the boats, but some of these yachts have 
basements that the WiFi doesn’t get into or the boats are so big (120-150ft) 
the coverage is poor.

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
  Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:22 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower 
companyBPL trials)

   

   

  I'll look them up next week - yes - had as many as four connected.  There was 
no master unit, it was all one big bridge, like having them all on a switch

   

- Original Message - 

From: ralph 

To: 'WISPA General List' 

Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failedpower 
companyBPL trials)

 

Thanks Jay.

Did you ever try to get more than one remote to connect to a master without 
doing anything special?

That’s my ultimate goal. And do you remember the model unit you used?

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

 

 

Ralph - pretty sure we used the netgear model units and they did not 
require anything more than plug and pray.  Worked great.

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: ralph 

  To: 'WISPA General List' 

  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)

   

  Then you may not be talking about what I am talking about.

  I think it may have been Duke Power who did some of the 1st generation 
trial/pilots I speak of.  It was quite a while ago,  It was too expensive, 
didn’t work well, and, well, yes it certainly did interfere with licensed users 
(Ham Radio and International broadcasters). It is a part 15 service. It 
transmits on unshielded wires on approximately 2-30 MHz. This covers almost all 
low frequency Ham bands, International broadcast, and CB.  Here is the database 
of the “trials” http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html#Cities  It is way out 
of date, but there is tons of interesting information here. Unfortunately a 
great many of the links are broken.

   

  The two most spectacular failures were those of IBEC, (the company I 
believe Clay is describing) who folded January of 2012. They cited the power 
line disruption from the Southeastern Tornadoes as the reason.  These are the 
same tornadoes that tore up several of us here on this list- especially in 
Alabama!  IBEC was competing with WISPS and all the while causing illegal 
interference to FCC licensed users.

  
http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-shows-ibec-bpl-systems-are-interfering-violating-fcc-rules

   

  The second was the City of Manassas, VA, who started their trial way back 
in 2002. The “plug was pulled” on their BPL in July of 2010.

   

  A little Google-ing will find you demonstrations of how horrible the 
interference was.

   

  The part 15 rules concerning BPL are very interesting:  47 C.F.R. §15.615 
 http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.615

   

  The official database of BPL systems that operators are, per the FCC, 
supposed to list their systems in at least 30 days before beginning operations 
is at  http://www.bpldatabase.org/listing/  IBEC repeatedly violated that FCC 
rule

   

   

   

   

   

  The most recent technology (HomePlug) incorporates protection 
(filtering/notching)  for the Amateur bands and is a much more friendly 
neighbor.

   

  Speaking of your Radio Shack

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power companyBPL trials)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We saw quite a bit of the same kind of reports that Clay did and saw IBEC 
deploying in our Electric Coop as well. We subsequently met with some of the 
techs who worked locally with them (they were based in Alabama) who swore up 
and down the technology worked.  In fact, we heard a substantially different 
story - the gov'mt pulled their funding and their insurance company wouldn't 
pay off without the government funding - so they had no choice but to shut down.

Additionally, they were trying to operate with T-1 circuits to the substations. 
 They could have easily asked one of us wireless companies to help put in their 
back haul for them (me thinks) and offered much better speeds - but they never 
did.  In fact, they started doing the paperwork to lay their own fiber to the 
substation - but they never got that far.

Our office (post tornado 2011) is ACROSS THE STREET from the Coop. They know of 
us.  They have no interest in getting back into the broadband biz.  Wish they 
would.

Jay Fuller
Cyber Broadband Inc
Cullman Al

  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)


  Then you may not be talking about what I am talking about.

  I think it may have been Duke Power who did some of the 1st generation 
trial/pilots I speak of.  It was quite a while ago,  It was too expensive, 
didn’t work well, and, well, yes it certainly did interfere with licensed users 
(Ham Radio and International broadcasters). It is a part 15 service. It 
transmits on unshielded wires on approximately 2-30 MHz. This covers almost all 
low frequency Ham bands, International broadcast, and CB.  Here is the database 
of the “trials” http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html#Cities  It is way out 
of date, but there is tons of interesting information here. Unfortunately a 
great many of the links are broken.

   

  The two most spectacular failures were those of IBEC, (the company I believe 
Clay is describing) who folded January of 2012. They cited the power line 
disruption from the Southeastern Tornadoes as the reason.  These are the same 
tornadoes that tore up several of us here on this list- especially in Alabama!  
IBEC was competing with WISPS and all the while causing illegal interference to 
FCC licensed users.

  
http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-shows-ibec-bpl-systems-are-interfering-violating-fcc-rules

   

  The second was the City of Manassas, VA, who started their trial way back in 
2002. The “plug was pulled” on their BPL in July of 2010.

   

  A little Google-ing will find you demonstrations of how horrible the 
interference was.

   

  The part 15 rules concerning BPL are very interesting:  47 C.F.R. §15.615  
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.615

   

  The official database of BPL systems that operators are, per the FCC, 
supposed to list their systems in at least 30 days before beginning operations 
is at  http://www.bpldatabase.org/listing/  IBEC repeatedly violated that FCC 
rule

   

   

   

   

   

  The most recent technology (HomePlug) incorporates protection 
(filtering/notching)  for the Amateur bands and is a much more friendly 
neighbor.

   

  Speaking of your Radio Shack devices (and I had a lot of them too) – they 
were based on the BSR X10 technology. The 80’s stuff was pretty poor. Later on 
it evolved to be a lot better and even worked bidirectionally, which really 
helped the reliability.  Many home automation companies sprang up to utilize 
the technology. When I was in the burglar business we laughed at the “Car 
Trunkers” trying to sell an alarm based on them- before they were even 2 way.  
My smart thermostat uses the X-10 passive infrared sensors to let it know when 
the different rooms are occupied.

   

  And like yours, many of modules are now dead, but I try to keep a few around 
to use to turn the Christmas lights off and on.   That X10 company who 
advertised us to death a few years ago was also responsible for those 2.4 GHz 
analog video cameras that can singlehandedly wipe out the entire 2.4 WiFi band. 
Boy am I glad they don’t advertise like that anymore! They seem to have calmed 
down and are mostly about security and switching again now.

   

   

   

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Clay Stewart
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:19 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power company 
BPL trials)

   

  Funny to see this today. I was upgrading a customers equipment today who 
works for the Electric company that provided service for BPL here, until it 
failed.

   

  He was telling me how they are still, after two years, finding and pulling 
the equipment off their poles and piling them up in a heap.

   

  I would like to make a correction on A above. It was not a trail and it 

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power companyBPL trials)

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ralph - pretty sure we used the netgear model units and they did not require 
anything more than plug and pray.  Worked great.

  - Original Message - 
  From: ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power 
companyBPL trials)


  Then you may not be talking about what I am talking about.

  I think it may have been Duke Power who did some of the 1st generation 
trial/pilots I speak of.  It was quite a while ago,  It was too expensive, 
didn’t work well, and, well, yes it certainly did interfere with licensed users 
(Ham Radio and International broadcasters). It is a part 15 service. It 
transmits on unshielded wires on approximately 2-30 MHz. This covers almost all 
low frequency Ham bands, International broadcast, and CB.  Here is the database 
of the “trials” http://p1k.arrl.org/~ehare/bpl/ex2.html#Cities  It is way out 
of date, but there is tons of interesting information here. Unfortunately a 
great many of the links are broken.

   

  The two most spectacular failures were those of IBEC, (the company I believe 
Clay is describing) who folded January of 2012. They cited the power line 
disruption from the Southeastern Tornadoes as the reason.  These are the same 
tornadoes that tore up several of us here on this list- especially in Alabama!  
IBEC was competing with WISPS and all the while causing illegal interference to 
FCC licensed users.

  
http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-shows-ibec-bpl-systems-are-interfering-violating-fcc-rules

   

  The second was the City of Manassas, VA, who started their trial way back in 
2002. The “plug was pulled” on their BPL in July of 2010.

   

  A little Google-ing will find you demonstrations of how horrible the 
interference was.

   

  The part 15 rules concerning BPL are very interesting:  47 C.F.R. §15.615  
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.615

   

  The official database of BPL systems that operators are, per the FCC, 
supposed to list their systems in at least 30 days before beginning operations 
is at  http://www.bpldatabase.org/listing/  IBEC repeatedly violated that FCC 
rule

   

   

   

   

   

  The most recent technology (HomePlug) incorporates protection 
(filtering/notching)  for the Amateur bands and is a much more friendly 
neighbor.

   

  Speaking of your Radio Shack devices (and I had a lot of them too) – they 
were based on the BSR X10 technology. The 80’s stuff was pretty poor. Later on 
it evolved to be a lot better and even worked bidirectionally, which really 
helped the reliability.  Many home automation companies sprang up to utilize 
the technology. When I was in the burglar business we laughed at the “Car 
Trunkers” trying to sell an alarm based on them- before they were even 2 way.  
My smart thermostat uses the X-10 passive infrared sensors to let it know when 
the different rooms are occupied.

   

  And like yours, many of modules are now dead, but I try to keep a few around 
to use to turn the Christmas lights off and on.   That X10 company who 
advertised us to death a few years ago was also responsible for those 2.4 GHz 
analog video cameras that can singlehandedly wipe out the entire 2.4 WiFi band. 
Boy am I glad they don’t advertise like that anymore! They seem to have calmed 
down and are mostly about security and switching again now.

   

   

   

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Clay Stewart
  Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 6:19 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power company 
BPL trials)

   

  Funny to see this today. I was upgrading a customers equipment today who 
works for the Electric company that provided service for BPL here, until it 
failed.

   

  He was telling me how they are still, after two years, finding and pulling 
the equipment off their poles and piling them up in a heap.

   

  I would like to make a correction on A above. It was not a trail and it did 
not fail due to ham radio interference.

   

  This one company walked away after failing due to the technology... after 
spending well over 130 million dollars of tax payer money. I would suggest 
twice that in order expenditures, such as the direct costs to our local 
Electric Cooperative company. The best speeds obtained were 4-5, but 90% or 
more was less then 400k!! Fact, I replaced many of these, including a 
manufacturer two blocks away from the BLP NOC, who had 300k D and 45k U!

   

  The technological issues were plenty, but the reason they failed, went 
bankrupt, was because the business model did not match the technology reality. 
When a lightning storm came through, it would take out several relays which 
were used to bypass pole transformers. Then, not the ISP, but a certified 
electrician and line man had to do the repairs... usually several down a route 
at great expense. Storms were 

Re: [WISPA] 1 of 2 towers down for good

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Wow...I am saving the pictures for prosperity...or future advertising for our 
disaster relief arm

internet - served straight to the devil  : /

do you guys need some help?  Look like the structures they were on are still 
good, just going to
be replacing a lot of rohn 25?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg Osborn 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:22 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] 1 of 2 towers down for good


  More pictures to come when I get them for the second site.

   

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Re: [WISPA] 2 of 2 tower down

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

When something like this happens, can you just remove the top sections of the 
tower and replace them?  Or is the entire tower compromised?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg Osborn 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:43 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] 2 of 2 tower down


   

   

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Re: [WISPA] FS: Canopy 900 SM, KPP Yagi, 600ss, ns2, 900 super stinger

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Price ?

Sent from my wy to expensive android mobile vzw 4gish device.

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: a...@afmug.com a...@afmug.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] FS: Canopy 900 SM, KPP Yagi, 600ss, ns2, 900 super stinger
Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 3:58 PM
Going in the dumpster if no one wants them!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




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Let me know if you're interested!
http://imgur.com/RxmbB1d,LJYonNh,U0qDquK


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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] Re: FS: Canopy 900 SM, KPP Yagi, 600ss, ns2, 900 super stinger

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Ok...pkee. n/m

Sent from my wy to expensive android mobile vzw 4gish device.

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: a...@afmug.com a...@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Re: [WISPA] FS: Canopy 900 SM, KPP Yagi, 600ss, ns2, 900 super 
stinger
Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 7:12 PM
900 Canopy SM and Yagis have been sold.
What's left is the 600ss, ns2 and 900 super stinger
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343


1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:54 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:



Price ?

Sent from my wy to expensive android mobile vzw 4gish device.

- Reply message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com


To: a...@afmug.com a...@afmug.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org


Subject: [WISPA] FS: Canopy 900 SM, KPP Yagi, 600ss, ns2, 900 super stinger
Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 3:58 PM


Going in the dumpster if no one wants them!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343


1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:




Let me know if you're interested!
http://imgur.com/RxmbB1d,LJYonNh,U0qDquK




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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I just looked - apparently they are not all up yet.  For example, looking at 
the wispapalooza page, then agenda, then each event - there is a hyperlink as 
part of the description that says presentation

a few of them say no presentation



  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:51 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Slides


  I was told Wispa members would be able to download the slides from the
  show and they were uploaded already for fiber weekend.  I cannot seem
  to find them anywhere on Wispa.org even when logged in.  Where are
  they?

  Also, when and where will the videos of the show be uploaded?
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Re: [WISPA] OT: King Solomon story from awards banquet

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I would venture a guess Rick does ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:52 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT: King Solomon story from awards banquet


  Does anyone have a softcopy by chance?


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Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Video?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Will any of the previous year sessions be made available?  I know they were 
recorded, although they may not have been complete...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Webster 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Video?


  Rick,
  I would highly recommend you purchase the new frames for the go
  pros. They are not waterproof but allow you use the same mounting system yet
  leave the camera so that you can plug in a USB power supply while the camera
  is running, this will also expose the microphones for better audio
  recordings.

  http://gopro.com/camera-mounts/the-frame

  Thank You,
  Brian Webster
  www.wirelessmapping.com
  www.Broadband-Mapping.com


  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Rick Harnish
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:39 PM
  To: 'WISPA General List'
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Video?

  Matt,

  I bought extended batteries for our GoPros to record the event without issue
  this time.  They will be made available to WISPA Members.  It won't be right
  away as it takes some time to process 50 or so 1 hour sessions.

  Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!
  Join Us at WISPAPALOOZA 2013 - Las Vegas, Oct 12-18

  Respectfully,

  Rick Harnish
  Executive Director
  WISPA
  260-307-4000 cell
  866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office
  Skype: rick.harnish.
  rharn...@wispa.org
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   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   On Behalf Of Matt
   Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:43 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] WISPALOOZA Video?
   
   Will there be any video/youtube recording of WISPALOOZA this year?  I 
   am pretty sure not all out key people cannot make the fiber weekend 
   and the conference.  Very interested in the fiber weekend.
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Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

tornadoes.

damned if you do, damned if you don't
 :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Lyon 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas


  Stihl :)

  On Aug 21, 2013, at 21:04, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

   What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both 
Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put up 
a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the UBNT 
solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied with. 
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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ Frequency Range

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I'd like to hear a price...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:53 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ 
Frequency Range


  Just got this today:

  This sounds interesting anyone have any thoughts?  900MHz always 
  gets the propagation advertisement, but my experience has been that 
  while it propagates better, the gain limitations and size of reasonable 
  antennas make it unusable.


   Original Message 
  Subject: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ
  Frequency Range
  Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:16:18 +0300
  From: Asa Yanai a...@runcom.com
  To: undisclosed-recipients:;



  
__

  Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products:

  v*New 4G/WIMAX  Solution at 900MHZ Frequency Range *

  *Combines long Range , High Capacity and low susceptibility to
  Interference *

  ·Long Range - due to 900MHz propagation

  ·Non Line of Sight – due to 900MHZ propagation and OFDMA technology
  (unique to 4G)

  ·High Capacity – due to 4G/WIMAX  high spectral efficiency (4
  bits/sec/Hz) and MIMO utilization

  ·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization

  ·Base Stations and Outdoor CPE's available now

  v*New Enhanced WIMAX Base Station with Radius Interface. *

  ·IEEE.802.16e compliant

  ·Enables stand alone connection to the NOC without the need of ASN Gateway

  ·For additional features please refer to the attached  brochure

  For more information please contact :

  */Asa Yanai/*

  RUNCOM USA

  V.P Business Development  Marketing USA

  Cell: 917 848 3753

  Email: a...@runcom.com mailto:a...@runcom.com

  or

  */Israel Koffman/*

  VP Marketing and Sales

  USA Mobile Phone: 1-646-530-1502

  Skype: Israel.Koffman

  FAX:+972-3-9528805

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Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

we have a lot of 900 in the airbut honestly, have never heard of anything 
like this. :(

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Hannum 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:43 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC


  We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is the 
situation.  We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a few 
homes around it.  So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the 
tower, both on Omni's.  The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart.  
There are six subs on the 900MHz radio.  About a month ago, I had an issue 
where (after about 9 months) the signal to all of the customers just faded out, 
to the point that only two subs were still good.  I swapped the antenna and 
that did not help.  I swapped the radio, and that fixed the problem.  Trouble 
is, it only lasted about three weeks, and the same thing happened again.  I 
swapped the radio again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat.  The 
radio in the AP keeps going out.  I had the climbers check the grounding, and 
we actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank.  My knee jerk 
feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and the 2450 is 
burning up the 900.  Could this be the case?  Any ideas?  

  Here is an example of what happens.  Customers that run signals -47 to -57 
become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear off.  Swap 
the radio, and everything goes back to normal.  This is now three radios that 
have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the previous.  (this one did 
not make it 24 hours).

  I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very wooded area.  
But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the radio.

  Thoughts?

  Dave Hannum
  New Era Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Let us know what you find

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Hannum 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC


  Swapped antennas first, thinking that might have been the issue.  Did not 
help.  I've heard off list from a couple of others who are experiencing the 
same exact issue.  And like us, it's limited to a given tower or towers.  We 
have 9000APC all over the place.  This is the only spot for this problem.  I'm 
wondering about static on this fiberglass shell tower . . .   But we ran a 
dedicated ground to both the antenna mount and the LPU on the CAT-5.  And 
overnight it went out.

  Dave Hannum
  New Era Broadband




  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Antenna has a dead short. Just a guess.

  --- On Thu, 6/13/13, David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.com 
wrote:


From: David Hannum d.han...@newerabroadband.com

Subject: [WISPA] Strange problem with Canopy 9000APC

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Thursday, June 13, 2013, 7:43 AM



We're having an issue with a 9000APC that is very strange.  Here is 
the situation.  We have a remote water tank (stand pipe 75' high) that has a 
few homes around it.  So, we have a 9000APC and a connectorized 2450AP on the 
tower, both on Omni's.  The antennas are on a stand almost exactly 4' apart.  
There are six subs on the 900MHz radio.  About a month ago, I had an issue 
where (after about 9 months) the signal to all of the customers just faded out, 
to the point that only two subs were still good.  I swapped the antenna and 
that did not help.  I swapped the radio, and that fixed the problem.  Trouble 
is, it only lasted about three weeks, and the same thing happened again.  I 
swapped the radio again yesterday, and today, I'm back in the same boat.  The 
radio in the AP keeps going out.  I had the climbers check the grounding, and 
we actually ran a dedicated ground yesterday off the water tank.  My knee jerk 
feeling today is that maybe the radios are too close together, and the 2450 is 
burning up the 900.  Could this be the case?  Any ideas?  

Here is an example of what happens.  Customers that run signals -47 
to -57 become -70 to -75 and those who's signals were -70 and up fall clear 
off.  Swap the radio, and everything goes back to normal.  This is now three 
radios that have gone, each lasting a much shorter time than the previous.  
(this one did not make it 24 hours).

I can't completely rule out lightning - the tower is in a very 
wooded area.  But usually you burn up the NIC in that case - not weaken the 
radio.

Thoughts?

Dave Hannum
New Era Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Canopy Question

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

True that.   I just had to change channels on an entire tower for about the 
first time i can ever remember
i just switched the channel maps around.  Enough interference was coming in 
where my uplinks were in
the 30s.

I think there is an unsynced ap nearby


  - Original Message - 
  From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Canopy Question


  And interestingly, I remember changing channels a LOT back before the switch 
to Canopy.  Not so much since.



  On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:


no sir, it does not.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:39 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Canopy Question


  Can anyone who's used Canopy on a regular basis answer a question or two 
  for me?

  Does Canopy probe for interference on a regular basis... and if so, can 
  it be programmed to jump to another frequency on its own?
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Re: [WISPA] Canopy Question

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

no sir, it does not.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:39 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Canopy Question


  Can anyone who's used Canopy on a regular basis answer a question or two 
  for me?

  Does Canopy probe for interference on a regular basis... and if so, can 
  it be programmed to jump to another frequency on its own?
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I saw Joe Miller mention a week or two ago he rents from them.  They're not the 
industry fav...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Carullo 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:22 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Anyone have a contact at crown castle?


  I've been trying to lease space on 2-3 new towers for two weeks now and have 
not received a returned phone call or email.  Not getting warm and fuzzies with 
them


  Anyone have someone who works there that wants my money?  Thanks


  Scott Carullo
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik Assistance Needed in Nashville, TN

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We're two hours from Nashville, are vaguely familiar with mikrotik but not 
enough to be dangerous - if you need a man on the ground i might can find you 
someone.

jay fuller
cyber broadband inc
reply to jayfuller at cyberbroadband dot net


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Framson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:45 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik Assistance Needed in Nashville, TN


  Does anyone have a Mikrotik RB1200 in the Nashville, TN area  willing to 
help out next week on a special project?

  Thanks  please let me know.




  Ian Framson
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  Connect With Us 

  On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com 
wrote:

Hi WISPS,


Happy Easter to everyone.

I have a client event in 2 weeks just outside of Nashville, TN (Antioch, to 
be precise).  I am looking for referrals to local WISPS.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] City teams up with local WISP to provide hotspots

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We did free public wifi for about 10 city properties back in 2006 or so.  
Made some good money
installing and configuring / supporting the project ; but as soon as the grant 
money behind it ran
out , so did the free access.

The city kept one hot spot out of about nine - and it's in the most illogical 
place (behind a city building)
I think they kept it so the police dept could pull in there and do some 
things

We had it at public ball parks, the civic center, lots of public areas.

We could have offered to keep it live or move it to a paid model, but as part 
of the grant they were
awarded they were required to purchase the equipment - so we didn't even own 
the SMs at the sites,
just the access point they were delivered from.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Ralph 
  To: 'WISPA General List' ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA Members] City teams up with local WISP to provide hotspots


  Just thought the group would be interested.

  We run this Muni WiFi and have struck a deal with the City and the downtown 
merchants to to provide this.

   

  http://thedecaturminute.com/2013/02/26/free-wi-fi-hotspots-coming-soon/

   

  Brightlan  (Georgia)

  http://brightlan.net

  Full WISPA member!

   




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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] City teams up with local WISP to provide hotspots

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

absolutely ; but i know better than to turn this into a political discussion :-D

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paolo Di Francesco 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Cc: CBB - Jay Fuller ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] City teams up with local WISP to provide 
hotspots


  Hi Jay

  that's the point: in most cases free=paid with my taxes

  So, the question is if we really need that type or market, i.e. a 
  service that is paid with my taxes. I am not talking about essential 
  services nor I am talking about high prices
  An example of an essential service to me, would be a service that 
  helps the poor people to get a school degree or decent health
  And regarding the price, it's few bucks if you REALLY need it NOW and 
  HERE. Otherwise the user con wait to be home to see if somebody posted 
  something on facebook

  Therefore personally I am against any form of free=paid with my taxes. 
  Some collegues and we offer free limited hotspot access in order to get 
  access and more attention from potential customers. But that's MY 
  investment not the investment of my taxes :)

  Just my 2 Euro cents
  Paolo

   We did free public wifi for about 10 city properties back in 2006 or
   so.  Made some good money
   installing and configuring / supporting the project ; but as soon as the
   grant money behind it ran
   out , so did the free access.
   The city kept one hot spot out of about nine - and it's in the most
   illogical place (behind a city building)
   I think they kept it so the police dept could pull in there and do some
   things
   We had it at public ball parks, the civic center, lots of public areas.
   We could have offered to keep it live or move it to a paid model, but
   as part of the grant they were
   awarded they were required to purchase the equipment - so we didn't even
   own the SMs at the sites,
   just the access point they were delivered from.
  
   - Original Message -
   *From:* Ralph mailto:r...@brightlan.net
   *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org ;
   memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org
   *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:33 AM
   *Subject:* [WISPA Members] City teams up with local WISP to provide
   hotspots
  
   Just thought the group would be interested.
  
   We run this Muni WiFi and have struck a deal with the City and the
   downtown merchants to to provide this.
  
   http://thedecaturminute.com/2013/02/26/free-wi-fi-hotspots-coming-soon/
  
   Brightlan (Georgia)
  
   http://brightlan.net
  
   Full WISPA member!
  
   
  
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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

we run quite a bit unifi's for a client, and it's pretty self-sufficient, but 
it not plug and play out of the box.
hafta do some configuration

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sean Heskett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs


  Ubnt unifi 

  On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote:

This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found an easy 
solution yet.


I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the way I 
expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd to use.  I 
want a solution so users can easily get online via their phone/tablet/computer 
without any complication, like hotels and such.


Does anyone know of a solution for this?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

We have found on our unifi network they tend to lock up maybe once every 
three months or so.
(could be an issue on-site too) ; it could be where i have the controller too - 
although the controller
isn't required for it to run.

Hasn't annoyed me enough yet to do anything about it - and i can reboot the 
unit from the controller
software without having to truck roll to the site, so - well - just keeping an 
eye on it.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs


  I'd have to replace all of the radios for that, unfortunately.  That's a 
great idea, though, and I may do that if taking the calls gets to be too high.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

Ubnt unifi 


On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote:

  This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found an 
easy solution yet.


  I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the way 
I expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd to use.  I 
want a solution so users can easily get online via their phone/tablet/computer 
without any complication, like hotels and such.


  Does anyone know of a solution for this?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yes.
and that tends to resolve the issue.
(the issue being the unit is powered up and clients can't connect to it)

i have about 16 of these on a catholic campus here ; boarding school.

happens in two areas - the high school building - and the boys dorm.
usually random times, and not at the same time.
i'd say each has locked up probably twice - we installed 3rd and 4th quarter
of 2012.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs


  Rebooting the radio via software (the Unifi controller)?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:


We have found on our unifi network they tend to lock up maybe once every 
three months or so.
(could be an issue on-site too) ; it could be where i have the controller 
too - although the controller
isn't required for it to run.

Hasn't annoyed me enough yet to do anything about it - and i can reboot the 
unit from the controller
software without having to truck roll to the site, so - well - just keeping 
an eye on it.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs


  I'd have to replace all of the radios for that, unfortunately.  That's a 
great idea, though, and I may do that if taking the calls gets to be too high.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

Ubnt unifi  


On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman wrote:

  This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found 
an easy solution yet. 


  I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the 
way I expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd to 
use.  I want a solution so users can easily get online via their 
phone/tablet/computer without any complication, like hotels and such.


  Does anyone know of a solution for this?


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

The reports I get of problems are apple ipads  but when I went to test it 
out my acer tablet but not connect either without a reboot


Sent from my wy to expensive android mobile vzw 4gish device.

- Reply message -
From: Shaun Hoggan shog...@mtwire.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs
Date: Mon, Feb 11, 2013 6:21 PM
With respect to UniFi gear, has anyone has any trouble with UniFi connection 
reliability with Apple products?  I have an installation where Apple products 
(laptops and iphones) have sporadic connectivity while my neighboring Dell 
laptop works just fine.  

To define sporadic connectivity the connection works fine then all of a 
sudden, without notice, the connection will drop.  After 3-5 minutes it will 
reconnect.  While this happens, my Dell laptop will stay connected without any 
problems or disconnect.  

Shaun Hoggan MtWire.net801-899-6072

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:









Yes.
and that tends to resolve the issue.
(the issue being the unit is powered up and clients can't connect to 
it)
 
i have about 16 of these on a catholic campus here ; boarding school.
 
happens in two areas - the high school building - and the boys dorm.
usually random times, and not at the same time.
i'd say each has locked up probably twice - we installed 3rd and 4th 
quarter
of 2012.
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: 
Josh Luthman 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:00 
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot 
programs


Rebooting the radio via software (the Unifi controller)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 
Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net 
wrote:



 
We have found on our unifi network they tend to lock 
up maybe once every three months or so.
(could be an issue on-site too) ; it could be where i 
have the controller too - although the controller
isn't required for it to run.
 
Hasn't annoyed me enough yet to do anything about it - 
and i can reboot the unit from the controller
software without having to truck roll to the site, so 
- well - just keeping an eye on it.
 
 


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman 

To: WISPA General List 


Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:57 
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot 
programs




I'd have to replace all of the radios for that, 
unfortunately.  That's a great idea, though, and I may do that if 
taking the calls gets to be too high.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St

Suite 
1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

Ubnt unifi  



On Monday, February 11, 2013, Josh Luthman 
wrote:


This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone 
has found an easy solution yet. 


I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they 
did it the way I expect, but with the lack of support or contact I 
found it too odd to use.  I want a solution so users can easily 
get online via their phone/tablet/computer without any complication, 
like hotels and such.


Does anyone know of a solution for this?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St

Suite 
1337
Troy, OH 
45373
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Re: [WISPA] KY show in April

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Many of us are cheap...that's why we're still here. :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:51 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] KY show in April


  Is anyone else looking to save some cash by staying a mile or two away 
instead of right downtown?

  To me, $126 a nite +tax is a LOT for a motel room.

  Especially when I can find places within 4 miles for less than $50 a nite + 
tax.

  I can't believe that parking or a taxi will cost more than $75 a day...

  Maybe I'm just cheap, but the only time I've ever paid more than $69 a night 
was for a special weekend away.


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Re: [WISPA] DirecTv On-Demand

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yup...mine too.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] DirecTv On-Demand


  I believe all DirecTV DVRs are capable of this. Ours were before the HR34 
(Genie).



  -
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  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com

  - Original Message -
  From: Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:01:21 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] DirecTv On-Demand


  Is it just me,or is everyone being bombarded with constant traffic from the 
new Genie system they are heavily pushing? I'm seeing a ton of traffic from 
these things on port 80. 
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Re: [WISPA] FL Panhandle or south AL WISP?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

North Alabama here - love visiting in South Alabama.  I'm sure our broadband 
folks would love to meet you from our state office.  You, of course, are 
legendary (everyone knew who you were at Wisapaloosa in Vegas, me, not so much, 
but we did chat a bit).  I know there are few WISPs in South Alabama - it's 
mostly rural and our state broadband coordinator, Jessica Dent, would LOVE to 
see some started up in south Alabama.

That being said, it's a three to four hour ride for me.  I've thought about 
starting one and running it from north alabama if i could find some good 
people.  Feel free to hit me up offlist and we'll talk more.  

jayfuller at cyberbroadband dot net.

Joe Miller has a wisp on the coast down there (mostly in MS but he touches AL 
and LA) and Harbour Communications is in Mobile, but they're mostly fiber with 
wireless as a backup.  I've got some contacts there as well.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Patrick Leary 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 9:35 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] FL Panhandle or south AL WISP?


  If you are a WISP in the subject area and would like a visit from me around 
the 11th of December, please let me know OFFLIST. I'd know I'd enjoy and 
appreciate it.

   

  Regards,

   

  Patrick Leary

  Eastern U.S.  Canada Sales Director

  Alvarion

  m: 727.501.3735

  o: 727.851.9140

   

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I kept bitching at their sessions at wispapaloosa ;)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal


  AT boasts a 4WISP program.  Not sure what sparked it.

  Josh Luthman
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  On Nov 8, 2012 8:38 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

Did WISPA score a deal with them or something?


-mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:36, Joe Miller joemiller...@cableone.net wrote:


  I called them last week…. Still waiting on a call back from them…L





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:31 PM
  To: a...@afmug.com
  Cc: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal



  I have my name in.  Waiting on info from my rep.

  Josh Luthman
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  On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  Anyone has the details on this?



  Gino A. Villarini

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  Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

  787.273.4143

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] East coast storm

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Keeping an eye on it ; will coordinate if assistance is needed.

[wispa's emergency action response team..]

www.wecat.org   (i think this is online now)


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  To: a...@afmug.com ; us...@wug.cc ; WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:03 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] East coast storm


  Hope everyone is ok out east!  Looks like a wicked bad storm.


  Lets us know if there is something we can do to help.


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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450 event - my notes on the gear and demo

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Happy to see 3.65 reported ; think it will perform as good or better than 
existing wimax products?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gino Villarini 
  To: a...@afmug.com 
  Cc: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:41 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] Cambium 450 event - my notes on the gear and demo


  Here are some notes from yesterday events, please note this are not official 
facts, most are notes from the slideshow and comments by Cambium Staff

  450 Current Status:
  -shipping as of yesterday
  -currently supports 20 mhz channels 1/16 CP
  - 29 vdc

  Q4 Update
  -New fw upgrade, full 200 subs support
  -Integrated GPS support
  -5.4 support , pending FCC approval
  -10 mhz channels and 1/8 CP

  2013
  -New Band (didn't confirm which one, 3.65 seems a heavy contender)
  -PPS, C/I and Range enhancements
  -Dual Channel Combo ( Didnt had a chance to ask)
  -1 Mhz Raster
  -GigE support, 48 vdc an/or 802.3at POE format 


  2014
  -Interference Mitigation techniques - Orthogon technology
  -Dual Sector Siso
  -40 Mhz Channel Size
  -256 QAM
  -Multi User Mimo ( Smart Antenna tech plus 4x4 or 8x8 mimo) I assume will 
require new AP HW

  So my take is that the 450 platform is on solid ground to serve the wisp 
market for the next 4-5 years

  We were able to visit the Cambium Offices and Lab, great experience! Staff 
was super! and went the extra mile to accommodate our comments and questions.

  The Lab visit really impressed me, way to many toys there! gear been tested 
left and right! I was able to peak and some skunk works stuff... but thats all 
I can say. I wish i could had taken pictures!

  For Closing, we went to the parking lot where theay had a van with a 
pneumatic mast and a bare 450 SM registered to an 450 AP 1 mile away, some 
tests:

  Mast at 65 ft - LOS -65 db rssi , LT was  98 Mbps at 6X 40 Mbps TCP transfer
  Mast at 30 ft NearLOS - 70 rssi, LT was at 63 Mbps at 4x 40 Mbps TCP Transfer
  Mast at 10 ft NLOS -870 rssi, LT was at 22 Mbps at 2x 14 Mbps TCP Transfer

  Note LT data rates are the total of Downlink + Uplink

  Thanks for the Cambium Staff for all...

  Sent from a Apple Newton

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I will say we've had a higher instance of lightning problems with ubnt gear 
than our moto gear.
Time will tell...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Matt Hoppes 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?


  They are focusing on their core product (wireless).  The team there has 
  not been taken to any other projects.  Rather, the income from the 
  wireless has generated enough profits that they can hire NEW teams in 
  order to be able to expand their product lines.

  And why not?  A router is a perfect fit.  So now we have:

  * Wireless Equipment
  * Switch that can power equipment
  * Router
  * Hotspot equipment
  * Hi-Cap Backhaul

  Really, Ubiquiti is staged to clean-up the WISP market.  They are a 
  one-stop shop.  They make equipment and make equipment that works well.


  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312

  On 9/14/12 11:24 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
   Hmm lately they (UBNT) seem like a sidewalk salesman selling anything
   from show cones to tennis shoes… IMHO they should focus on the core
   products
  
   Its like the VC approach.. invest in 100 startups, 1 would be a hit
  
   Gino A. Villarini
  
   g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
  
   Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
  
   787.273.4143
  
   *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
   *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
   *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2012 11:14 AM
   *To:* paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?
  
   They hired the Vyatta engineers, it's basically running Vyatta.  It's
   even stated as such on their forums...
  
  
   Regards,
   Chuck
  
   On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
   paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
  
   Hi all
  
   I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
  
   Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market and
   I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
   instead of other well knows products
  
 From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in the
   number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and instabilities.
  
   A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
   since years in my network?
  
   I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a new
   brand.
  
   Comments?
  
  
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   Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
  
   Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
  
   C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
   Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I was going to say that about our ubnt gear as well, but I will admit they were 
running beta firmware at the time.  So, I can't say that - as a public release. 
:)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?


  Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or 
  Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My 
  main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been 
  up for over 2+ years.

  We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more than 100 days 
  uptime, you have to reboot them BEFORE doing a firmware upgrade or else 
  when they come back they won't pass traffic (even though they are 
  connected via wireless).

  Travis
  Microserv

  On 9/14/2012 9:42 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
   Greg,
   I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
   from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
   are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
   had any problems with the final releases of software.
  
   I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
   routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
   their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
   hear from them again.
  
   Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
   rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.
  
   No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
   working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
   Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
   been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.
  
   Matt Hoppes
   Director of Information Technology
   Indigo Wireless
   +1 (570) 723-7312
  
   On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
   Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
   bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless gear?
  
   Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps
   throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
   /and/ easy?
  
   It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.
  
   Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only features
   relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth accounting
   etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a lot
   of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
   protocols come to mind).
  
   Greg
  
   On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
   paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
  
Hi all
  
I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.
  
Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market 
and
I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti router
instead of other well knows products
  
  From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only in 
the
number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and 
instabilities.
  
A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others working
since years in my network?
  
I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a 
new
brand.
  
Comments?
  
  
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Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
  
Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
  
C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product.... another router?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

very true.
+1

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Hogg 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti next product another router?


  I must live on a different planet, but there are products that Ubiquiti has 
failed on over the years and has EOL'd the product as a result.  Look at GPS 
Sync in the RM5/RM2 product lines.  Look at ToughCable L1/L2.  Look at 
LiteStations.  Wonder why they are EOL?  I give praise to UBNT when praise is 
deserved.  Not before a product has even been put through it's paces.

  Regards,
  Chuck



  On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

Sorry... I don't agree that Ubiquiti is in the same category as Cisco or
Motorola. I have Cisco switches and routers with 5+ YEARS of uptime. My
main Cisco switch is moving over 1500Mbps of graphic daily and has been
up for over 2+ years.

We have had many Ubiquiti radios that if they have more than 100 days
uptime, you have to reboot them BEFORE doing a firmware upgrade or else
when they come back they won't pass traffic (even though they are
connected via wireless).

Travis
Microserv


On 9/14/2012 9:42 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 Greg,
 I don't ever recall seeing bleeding-edge firmware with bugs released
 from Ubiquiti unless you mean the betas?  But that's what they
 are... betas.   Since 5.3.3 up to the current 5.5.2 release I haven't
 had any problems with the final releases of software.

 I can't count the number of Linksys, DLink, Hawking, whatever wireless
 routers we've replaced for customers because they had problems with
 their Internet.  We put in a Power AP-N, or an AirRouter and we never
 hear from them again.

 Truth be told... Ubiquiti equipment just runs... it doesn't need
 rebooted.  It doesn't need babysat.  It just runs.

 No I am not being paid to make these statements.  I just have many years
 working in IT.  I've used Cisco, MikroTik, Alvarion, Motorola and now
 Ubiquiti.  The Ubiquiti equipment just works.  I have a backhaul that's
 been up for over a year with no reboots and no problems.

 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 9/14/12 11:20 AM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
 Are people going to be able to tolerate the bleeding-edge cycle of
 bugs/firmware updates that has been the history with their wireless gear?

 Once again they're breaking new ground, this time with low cost/high pps
 throughput. Will they be able to make it powerful (rich feature set)
 /and/ easy?

 It's going to have to be really good to make people switch.

 Maybe they're going for a niche market of people who want only features
 relevant to the WISP market (bandwidth management, bandwidth accounting
 etc, vlans) and not people who want a do-all box like MT which has a lot
 of features most WISPs probably don't use (BGP and the forwarding
 protocols come to mind).

 Greg

 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

  Hi all

  I see that Ubiquiti is launching a new product, a router.

  Well, personally, I do not think that it's a good idea, hard market 
and
  I really do not see a real reason why I should buy the Ubiquiti 
router
  instead of other well knows products

From my perspective the value or a core/edge router is not only 
in the
  number of packets, it's more into the number of bugs and 
instabilities.

  A new product has less or more bugs/instabilities than others 
working
  since years in my network?

  I am not sure that I want to restart thinking new workarounds for a 
new
  brand.

  Comments?


  --


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  Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

  Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

  C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
  Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Wholesale dialup

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I might can helpif my dialup provider can be reached...my accounts are 
still active

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

- Reply message -
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
Date: Fri, Aug 31, 2012 2:20 pm
Subject: [WISPA] Wholesale dialup
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Anyone offer wholesale dialup or know a good place that does?

Jeormie
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Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I agree with this, i may only serve certain areas, but i can sure build links 
to many other areas.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email


  Well if I'm 5 miles away from a zipcode and have a 400 foot tower ready to 
throw up a backhaul on there and they can pay for it, but I'm not already in 
that zip code then they'll never know I'm next door =(

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

  I am sure that is why they are wanting the database updated  
To contact only those people that are serving the zip codes of the client   




  ---Original Message---

  From: Josh Luthman
  Date: 8/3/2012 10:42:54 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Cc: memb...@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Opportunity, don't ignore this email

  Where are the 70 locations? 

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org 
wrote:

  Members,



  I was just called by a company with a large client who is looking for 
10-100 Mbps service to 70 locations around the US.  They are willing to assist 
in getting roof rights to help the individual providers accomplish this service 
level.  Although service is needed on a temporary basis, the company is willing 
to annualize the subscription rate and renew temporary service as needed.  They 
understand the costs involved and are willing to pay substantial fees to the 
fixed wireless providers that are able to help them accomplish their needs.  
I’m not going to tell you much more than that, but it is in the upper five 
figures for temporary service.



  This is one reason why it is essential that we get zip codes in our 
database from each member company, so that you can reap the benefits of such 
opportunities.  Deals like this come along once in a while and we need to have 
a rapid method of finding Wisps (members) in these locations rapidly.  
Opportunities like this are one of the reasons, I continue to be excited about 
our industry and work hard to facilitate and promote our member services and 
needs.  Please assist me by updating your company profiles with the zip codes 
you serve so that we can help you drive your revenue higher and higher.



  To do this and please follow the directions closely:

  1.   Go to the WISPA website.

  2.   Go to My WISPA and then My Profile in the main navigation 
bar below the WISPA logo.

  3.   Once you click on My Profile, you will be presented a Login 
screen.  Your username should be your email address we have on file and your 
password is whatever you have changed it to or the default password is 
Password1, which you will need to change.  There is an opportunity to request 
your password to be sent to you on this page if you have forgotten it.

  4.   If you have trouble with this, you may have logged in to 
Memberfuse in the top right hand corner of the WISPA homepage.  You should be 
able to go back to the Homepage and start over at Item 2 above.

  5.   Once logged in, you should be presented with an Individual 
Information page.  This is your individual profile that you can edit.  However, 
below your personal name and info, you will see your company name below under 
Organization Information.  Click on your company name (it is a link).  This 
takes you to your Organization Profile. 

  6.   Click on Edit Information in the Organization Profile and go 
to the large data field near the bottom of the form, which calls for zip codes. 
 

  7.   Enter the zip codes in comma delimited fashion such as 
46777, 46750, 46430, ……  MAKE SURE YOU PUT A SPACE AFTER EACH COMMA!  THIS IS 
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

  8.   Save 



  This company wants to move quickly and thus, you need to move quickly 
in updating your information.  This may be the best time you spend today or 
over the weekend.  Try to keep this updated on no more than a quarterly basis 
as I’m sure other opportunities will arrive and we will need updated 
information to assist you in gaining high dollar clients.



  If you are not a member, this is a very good reason to become one.  
Either go to the Online Store and purchase a principal membership or go to 
http://signup.wispa.org and fill out the form.  The Online Store is the 
quickest way to activate your membership.



  Where there is a Wisp, there is a way!



  Respectfully,



  Rick Harnish

  Executive Director

 

Re: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Yup.  I haven't found a device that will function similar to a openrange 
modem, either, with
say, a 2.5 receive chip, and rebroadcast wifi, phone, etc.


  - Original Message - 
  From: John McDowell 
  To: a...@afmug.com ; wireless@wispa.org ; memb...@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 10:56 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] ATA and POE built into router -- need opinions


  All,


  If you feel you could benefit from a SOHO router with built in POE, built in 
ATA or both, please email me on or off list with your comments and opinions. 
What are you currently using for ATA/POE, what percentage of your customers are 
voip customers, etc? What ATA do you use now?



  Sincerely,

  John McDowell
  Sales Executive
  Direct: 801.984.5137
  Cell: 256.996.0252
  j...@readynetsolutions.com
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Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

This is what WISPA needs for the disaster recovery group...
whats the average price tag on one of these?
How about used?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Doug Clark 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz


Why not just use a TOW but for Bandwidth? You do not have to do roof 
top rights and you will have the equipment wherever you go.
This one will go up to 106 feet self supporting.  150 feet if you guy 
it.

http://www.towerworx.net/products.php 




---Original Message---

From: Cameron Crum
Date: 6/14/2012 10:08:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz

Good luck. The only thing they will offer is 4G mifi type routers. They 
simply don't do one-off backhaul. They make a lot more off cell traffic than 
off a few hundred dollar event and they certainly aren't going to carve out a 
piece of spectrum for one organization.  


Cameron


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ian Framson 
i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote:

Hi Wisps,

Though it may be taboo to ask, is anyone familiar with a high bandwidth 
(50-100+ Mbps) solution from any of the cellular carriers on 700/800/1900 MHz 
licensed frequencies?

We're looking for a way to bring in a large amount of wireless 
bandwidth for conferences at hotels and convention centers without having to 
tango with the venue over roof access rights for a site survey, mast location, 
low voltage requirements for running ethernet cable, etc.

Perhaps the cellular carriers offer some sort of 
non-commercially-available 4G Premium plan that is available upon request?

Thanks in advance for your ideas,




Ian Framson
Co-founder/CEO




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i...@tradeshowinternet.com
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Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I wonder if a wimax device would do this, 3.65 ?
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Framson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz


  More specifically, does anyone have a good Near-Line-of-Sight wireless 
backhaul solution that can be deployed inside a hotel/convention center 
*without* installing anything on the roof?

  We need something that doesn't require roof access or low voltage wiring 
(since many of the buildings in which we operate won't grant it).


  On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:

  Why not just use a TOW but for Bandwidth? You do not have to do roof 
top rights and you will have the equipment wherever you go.
  This one will go up to 106 feet self supporting.  150 feet if you guy 
it.

  http://www.towerworx.net/products.php 




  ---Original Message---

  From: Cameron Crum
  Date: 6/14/2012 10:08:45 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 MHz

  Good luck. The only thing they will offer is 4G mifi type routers. 
They simply don't do one-off backhaul. They make a lot more off cell traffic 
than off a few hundred dollar event and they certainly aren't going to carve 
out a piece of spectrum for one organization.  


  Cameron


  On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ian Framson 
i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote:

  Hi Wisps,

  Though it may be taboo to ask, is anyone familiar with a high 
bandwidth (50-100+ Mbps) solution from any of the cellular carriers on 
700/800/1900 MHz licensed frequencies?

  We're looking for a way to bring in a large amount of wireless 
bandwidth for conferences at hotels and convention centers without having to 
tango with the venue over roof access rights for a site survey, mast location, 
low voltage requirements for running ethernet cable, etc.

  Perhaps the cellular carriers offer some sort of 
non-commercially-available 4G Premium plan that is available upon request?

  Thanks in advance for your ideas,




  Ian Framson
  Co-founder/CEO




  www.tradeshowinternet.com 
  i...@tradeshowinternet.com
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