Re: [WISPA] Looking for some...
https://www.microcom.us/smsp260wdcus.html https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SM-SP-260W-DCUS On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 5:18 PM Blair Davis via Wireless wrote: > SunMax Solar Panels... > > SM-SP-260W-DC-US > > New or used... > > Within 500-600 miles of Grand Rapids. > > Need 6+ > > -- > West Michigan Wireless ISP > Allegan, Michigan 49010 > 269-686-8648 > > A Division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [ External ] Scott Stevens
Go here --> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 2:39 PM Norman Schippert wrote: > unsubscribe > -- > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf > of John Seaman > *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2018 11:32 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [ External ] Scott Stevens > > > This is so sad. I had the pleasure of reengaging with Scott very recently > on a tribal broadband project. In fact he was at Wispapalooza, and by all > appearances he was in good spirits. Very sad. > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org *On > Behalf Of *John Scrivner > *Sent:* Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:48 AM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* [ External ] [WISPA] Scott Stevens > > > > This note just came up on Scott Steven's Facebook page: > > On a mountain top, overlooking the ocean, at a tower site in Northern > Washington on Monday, October 15th, Scottie sadly took his own life. They > say the spot was beautiful, and everyone knows that broadband technology > was his passion; perhaps he is finally at peace. > > He left behind three children; Sahara, Tate, and Ty. His dad Jay, mom Deb, > brothers Shawn and Chad, and his sister Jenny. And many family and friends > who will miss him dearly. > > There will be a gathering to share stories, look at pictures of his life, > write messages that will be carried away by balloons, journal memories in a > notebook that will be given to his boys Tate and Ty and his daughter > Sahara, and embrace all of those who lost him. > > All are welcome, his kids deserve the opportunity to know their dad > through your experiences with him. His laughter was contagious, his mind > was brilliant, and like us all...sometimes, he could be a bit of a punk; no > matter your history with him, come share your stories and hear all of ours. > > An event will be created soon and the invitation is open to all. We will > open the house up to guests on November 3rd, 2018 (Saturday). We would love > locals to bring a dish to share too!! > > November 3, 2018 (11/3/18) > Location: Hood River, OR > *Address will be in event details. > Time: 1pm to closing:) > > Please feel free to message any of us for additional details: > > Tricia Stevens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Ftricia.a.stevens%3F__tn__%3D%252CdKH-R-R%26eid%3DARAtbxUrVOdkq9nGT4Jry2Pba34bBEf1JLHW_5azCgQs3plE21jSR2rE00taBtF6HksUjLdnkp6plAm9%26fref%3Dmentions%26hc_location%3Dgroup=02%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C1d43b404ecb24c28645508d6377d87f5%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C636757409659637874=EHB0xnNCgTq6NFwESRSnqbHeD0S9CX1EgrrUfDk3wQk%3D=0> > Chad Stevens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fchad.stevens.79827%3F__tn__%3D%252CdKH-R-R%26eid%3DARCM2RR1Z6lPh2N7-ydrlttd_BoHjHvYpzlYz8-DgkLBlPii1W6NeQ1qz6p7QOjuf9lQTN-mEeC_ln8j%26fref%3Dmentions%26hc_location%3Dgroup=02%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C1d43b404ecb24c28645508d6377d87f5%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C636757409659637874=HazmUYAIWPik66VLaL7uyZqbSgg%2FYAJvenK%2BSXsf%2BT0%3D=0> > Juris Stevens > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fjuris.stevens%3F__tn__%3D%252CdKH-R-R%26eid%3DARCjFoJnALESdiCUtUjcbO1dUXMorAyi7zSGcdT8YUEuEhnVTAR_GQVxE6QUK1Y-1YKl762jaq8x4aRv%26fref%3Dmentions%26hc_location%3Dgroup=02%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C1d43b404ecb24c28645508d6377d87f5%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C636757409659637874=E9mz2MFvWcKddfdNpAXIuw%2BPbaXWjRs48aJSMp6PBqw%3D=0> > (Jay) > > We are all very sad and this is very difficult for the boys who are 11 & > 9, and Sahara who is 19. > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OFF LIST Predictive placement and heat mapping software OFF LIST
No apologies necessary - I enjoyed the info :) On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Brian Webster wrote: > Crap and you have to remember to change the address. Apologies to the > list……. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Brian Webster > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:30 PM > *To:* 'WISPA General List' > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OFF LIST Predictive placement and heat mapping > software OFF LIST > > > > Bryan, > > Since they get touchy if we self-promote our own solutions > on the list I am sending this to you off list. Here is a blog I published > two weeks ago talking about a solution I have developed that may addresses > your question if you are looking for placement based on need. For other RF > predictions there are a few solutions. 3D RF modeling cuts down your > options, actual field survey data and post modeling can also be done in > quite a few ways but Ekahu seems to have a popular solution for in building > surveying and coverage mapping. Are you looking for indoor or outdoor > solutions? Feel free to call and discuss in detail if you want. > > > > https://brianwebsterconsulting.wordpress.com/2018/07/12/ > where-will-the-5g-networks-be-built-carriers-are-not-the- > only-ones-who-know/ > > > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. > > Cooperstown, NY 13326 > > (607) 643-4055 Office > > (607) 435-3988 Mobile > > (208) 692-1898 Fax > Skype: Radiowebst > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On > Behalf Of *Bryan Brooks > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:29 PM > *To:* wireless@wispa.org > *Subject:* [WISPA] Predictive placement and heat mapping software > > > > > > What are folks using these days for predictive wifi heatmapping > (preferably 3D) and post- install wifi heatmapping? > > > > Regards, > > Bryan > > > > Bryan Brooks > > Pavlov Media > > 217-530-1946 > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??
Try here: https://www.facebook.com/butchevansconsulting On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Tony C. Loosle wrote: > Butch, I hope still has login details for my router. My login no longer > works, so if I can't find him I will have to reset and lose connectivity. > > Butch, you out there?? > > t > > CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > > Butch is a WISP operator again. He does still help from time to time but > you have to schedule with him ahead and time. > Not sure if he is still doing full-on consulting or not. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Tim Reichhart > *To:* 'WISPA General List' > *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:10 PM > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ?? > > If you need some tik help hit up Robert Terpe on Facebook or call him at > 360-202-9157 not try to put butch down but Robert does good job. > > > > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Saturday, July 14, 2018 4:49 PM > *To:* WISPA General List > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ?? > > > > He's around... Hear from him all the time. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:47 PM Tony C. Loosle wrote: > > I have been trying to contact Butch Evans for some mikrotik work. > > > Does anyone know if he is still around? > > t > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote: > > Brian > Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I > was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my > powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime > I > call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the > support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I > might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar. > > Tim > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Alan Luelf > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution > > We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net> > wrote: > > > > What do we got out there for billing solutions? My current one is not > > working out. I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I > > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be > > falling apart. I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45 > > days and they just can't get it done. It's beyond frustrating, time > > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why > > my payment site is not secure. I can't take it anymore. I need some > > recommendations on whats out there. I want good support. I need a > > solution with support. What's everybody using? What do you like and > > dislike about it? > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > http://www.avg.com > > > > ___ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This message and all attachments are subject to > the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, Title 18 U.S.C. This email may > contain information that is privileged,confidential, or otherwise exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee or you > have received this email in error, please delete this email, and contact us > immediately at bill...@surelinebroadband.com. > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This message and all attachments are subject to > the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, Title 18 U.S.C. This email may > contain information that is privileged,confidential, or otherwise exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee or you > have received this email in error, please delete this email, and contact us > immediately at bill...@surelinebroadband.com. > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Confidentiality Notice: This message and all attachments are subject to > the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, Title 18 U.S.C. This email may > contain information that is privileged,confidential, or otherwise exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee or you > have received this email in error, please delete this email, and contact us > immediately at bill...@surelinebroadband.com. > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Open Source Credit Control
Does it work with Authorize.net? On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Vance Shipley <van...@sigscale.com> wrote: > Did you know there's a freely available solution for AAA and real-time > credit management? > > SigScale has developed an Online Charging System (OCS) for mobile > operators who need DIAMETER Ro rating and charging for prepaid > cellular services. Open source is a new business model to the > communications service provider industry but SigScale believes CSPs > will want commercial support for these solutions so we're developing > them and making them freely available to anyone. It's free as in beer. > > WISPs should find that SigScale OCS also provides great RADIUS support > and is a lean integrated solution which can be up and running in five > minutes! The following commands are all that is needed for Ubuntu > 16.04 LTS (video here: https://youtu.be/DLNE528SXNM) > > wget repo.sigscale.org/pool/main/s/sigscale-release/sigscale- > release_1.0-4+ubuntu1_all.deb > sudo dpkg -i sigscale-release*.deb > sudo apt update > sudo apt install ocs > sudo systemctl start ocs > sudo systemctl status ocs > > You can see how you may quickly create prepaid products here: > https://youtu.be/crM5jfrqCPg > > -- > Vance Shipley, CEO > SigScale Global Inc. > http://www.sigscale.org > +94771231660 > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] W9 Needed
I filled out the form, now what? J/K LOL! On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:35 PM, William C Bardwell <cbardwel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this is a scam or wrong email address. > > On Dec 15, 2017 8:25 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: > >> Have I done business with you? >> >> On Dec 15, 2017, at 20:36, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >> To who?? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Dec 15, 2017 8:29 PM, "Alan Belvo" <a...@zirkel.us> wrote: >> >>> Greetings, We need a W-9 completed for our payments to you. Please let >>> me know if you have any questions. >>> >>> >>> You can use our bookkeeper's secure online form at >>> https://www.singletrackbookkeeping.com/w9/ >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> *Alan Belvo* >>> *ZIRKEL Wireless * >>> >>> *Internet for Northwest Colorado*970-871-8500 x101 <(970)%20871-8500> >>> office >>> 970-846-8060 <(970)%20846-8060> mobile >>> 866-903-4628 <(866)%20903-4628> fax >>> www.zirkelwireless.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch
I almost switched to the UBNT Infinity. So you're liking them Clay? On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Clay Stewart <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: > Opposite experience here. Then a lot has changed in last few years, like > the latest> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-infinity/ > > The biggest issue I have seen over the years is people not learning the > CLI and resulting capability. > > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM, David Funderburk <df...@globalvision.net> > wrote: > >> How long have you had the EdgePoint in service? We had deployed a number >> of Ubiquiti routers but ended up pulling them all out. Once they were in >> service a little over a year we had MANY ghost issues crop up with them. >> Our latency went down and stability went up after removing them. >> >> Regards, >> >> David Funderburk >> GlobalVision >> 864-569-0703 <(864)%20569-0703> >> >> On 29/09/2017 08:39, Clay Stewart wrote: >> >> Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many. >> Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch. >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher <rbouc...@sanjuanweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n >>> install about 75ft up. >>> >>> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on >>> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5) >>> >>> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE? >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> - >>> >>> >>> Rick Boucher >>> Webmaster / Systems Admin >>> Orcas Online / San Juan Web >>> (360) 376-6411 >>> http://www.orcasonline.com >>> http://www.sanjuanweb.com >>> The information source for the San Juan Islands >>> >>> >>> >>> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact >>> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer." >>> - Martin Luther >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] POE splitter for ToughSwitch
I like the Edgepoints but it's hard to give up Netonix switches! On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Clay Stewart <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: > Consider an EdgePoint, we have not lost one and have deployed many. > Powered by cat5 or wires. A real switch. > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Rick Boucher <rbouc...@sanjuanweb.com> > wrote: > >> Looking for a good POE splitter to power up a ToughSwitch POE on n >> install about 75ft up. >> >> Source inserts power at base (in house) then powers ToughSwitchPOE on >> Roof. ToughSwitch then powers 4 UBNT 24V devices (maybe 5) >> >> Anyone using a good splitter for powering the TSPOE? >> >> Rick >> >> - >> >> >> Rick Boucher >> Webmaster / Systems Admin >> Orcas Online / San Juan Web >> (360) 376-6411 >> http://www.orcasonline.com >> http://www.sanjuanweb.com >> The information source for the San Juan Islands >> >> >> >> Plans for the next day - "Work, work from early to late. In fact >> I have so much to do that I shall spend the first three hours in prayer." >> - Martin Luther >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Major X-Class Solar Flare
The moon was noticeably bright tonight! On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Nick Bright <nick.bri...@valnet.net> wrote: > http://www.spaceweather.com/ > > *GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH (G3-CLASS): *A CME hurled toward Earth by > sunspot AR2673 on Sept.4th is due to arrive later today. NOAA forecasters > say the CME's impact could spark moderately-strong G2-class > <http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/g2.jpg?PHPSESSID=0fsdsi03l27h1p5r0vl5adr4a4> > geomagnetic storms with isolated periods of strong G3-class > <http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/g3.jpg?PHPSESSID=0fsdsi03l27h1p5r0vl5adr4a4> > storming on *Sept. 6th and 7th*. High-latitude sky watchers should be > alert for auroras in bright moonlight. *Free:* Aurora Alerts > <http://spaceweathergallery.com/eclipse_gallery.html> > > *MAJOR X-CLASS SOLAR FLARE: *On Sept. 6th at 1202 UT, sunspot AR2673 > unleashed a major X9.3-class solar flare--the strongest solar flare in more > than a decade. X-rays and UV radiation from the blast ionized the top of > Earth's atmosphere, causing a strong shortwave radio blackout over Europe, > Africa and the Atlantic Ocean: blackout map > <http://www.spaceweather.com/images2017/06sep17/blackoutmap.jpg?PHPSESSID=0fsdsi03l27h1p5r0vl5adr4a4>. > > > Analysis is still underway but this event may have directed a large CME > towards earth. A direct CME strike from an X9 class flare could cause a G5+ > geomagnetic storm; which could cause https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Geomagnetic_storm#Geomagnetic_storm_effects > > > -- > --- > - Nick Bright- > - Vice President of Technology - > - Valnet -=- We Connect You -=- - > - Tel 888-332-1616 x 315 / Fax 620-331-0789 - > - Web http://www.valnet.net/ - > --- > - Are your files safe?- > - Valnet Vault - Secure Cloud Backup - > - More information & 30 day free trial at - > - http://www.valnet.net/services/valnet-vault - > --- > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SpaceX founder files with government to provide Internet service from space
Thanks for the update Jack! On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: > Oh my goodness gracious. Please forgive me Mr. Grand Avenue. > > So here's an article from May 4, 2017 > > <http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/spacex-internet-satellites-elon-musk.html> > <http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/spacex-internet-satellites-elon-musk.html> > > And then there's Apple. Here's an article from April 21, 2017. > > <https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/21/15386854/apple- > satellite-internet-boeing-alphabet-google-hires> > <https://www.theverge.com/2017/4/21/15386854/apple-satellite-internet-boeing-alphabet-google-hires> > > Several other companies are in the race too but, you know; you're probably > right. There's nothing to see here. Move along... > > > > > On 5/17/2017 5:58 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote: > > Dude! 2015? > > On May 17, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: > > *"**Elon Musk’s space company has asked the federal government for > permission to begin testing on an ambitious project to beam Internet > service from space, a significant step forward for an initiative that could > create another major competitor to Comcast, AT and other telecom > companies.* > > *The plan calls for launching a constellation of 4,000 small and cheap > satellites that would beam high-speed Internet signals to all parts of the > globe, including its most remote regions. Musk has said the effort “would > be like rebuilding the Internet in space.”* > > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/spacex- > founder-files-with-government-to-provide-internet-service- > from-space/2015/06/09/db8d8d02-0eb7-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html?utm_ > term=.ebbdac899e9b> > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/spacex-founder-files-with-government-to-provide-internet-service-from-space/2015/06/09/db8d8d02-0eb7-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html?utm_term=.ebbdac899e9b> > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com <http://ask-wi.com>, Inc. > Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" > Serving the WISP Community since 1993 > 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- > Grand Avenue Broadband -- Wireless Internet Service > Circle City to Wickenburg and surrounding areas > http://grandavebb.com > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. > Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" > Serving the WISP Community since 1993 > 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SpaceX founder files with government to provide Internet service from space
Looking for status :P On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband < grandav...@grandavebb.com> wrote: > Dude! 2015? > > On May 17, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: > > *"**Elon Musk’s space company has asked the federal government for > permission to begin testing on an ambitious project to beam Internet > service from space, a significant step forward for an initiative that could > create another major competitor to Comcast, AT and other telecom > companies.* > > *The plan calls for launching a constellation of 4,000 small and cheap > satellites that would beam high-speed Internet signals to all parts of the > globe, including its most remote regions. Musk has said the effort “would > be like rebuilding the Internet in space.”* > > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/spacex- > founder-files-with-government-to-provide-internet-service- > from-space/2015/06/09/db8d8d02-0eb7-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html?utm_ > term=.ebbdac899e9b> > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/spacex-founder-files-with-government-to-provide-internet-service-from-space/2015/06/09/db8d8d02-0eb7-11e5-a0dc-2b6f404ff5cf_story.html?utm_term=.ebbdac899e9b> > > -- > Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com <http://ask-wi.com>, Inc. > Author (2003) - "Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks" > Serving the WISP Community since 1993 > 760-678-5033 jun...@ask-wi.com > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > -- > Grand Avenue Broadband -- Wireless Internet Service > Circle City to Wickenburg and surrounding areas > http://grandavebb.com > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] VoIP Vendor Recommendation
eless mailing >>>> listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> ___ Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> ___ Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> ___ Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > Joey Craig > *Network/RF Engineer* > *Firenet1.Com <http://www.firenet1.com/>* > *Phone: (662) 510-0764* > *Mobile: (662) 404-1118* > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > > > Ing. Paolo Di Francesco > > Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale > > Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo > > C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 > Fax : +39-091-8772072 > assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 > web: http://www.level7.it > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT has horns too!
Thanks but no time for beta testing any more. Someone update us how they do! On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Stuart Pierce <spie...@avolve.net> wrote: > Better hurry on the store.ubnt.com/airmax-beta > > On Thu, February 23, 2017 9:40 pm, RickG wrote: > > But can you get them? > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> *Gino Villarini* > >> President > >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> *Gino Villarini* > >> President > >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Wireless mailing list > >> Wireless@wispa.org > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -RickG > > ___ > > Wireless mailing list > > Wireless@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??
Who supports it, you or them? On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > Hi William, > > The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same > as Netflix and Hulu. We really didn't need to "budget" any more bandwidth > capacity because our clients are already streaming video. > > As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they > can give you their pricing. > > We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub to > our bottom line. > > -Sean > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell <cbardwel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Sean, >> >> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and >> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost? >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >> >> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and >> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL. I've personally never sold >> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself. >> >> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live >> streaming TV with local channels. They are a WISPA member. >> >> -Sean >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope <sp...@arbuckleonline.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to >> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product. The representative has >> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of >> the country. I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or >> failure stories to share? I am cautiously optimistic of the idea. I am >> just looking for feedback. >> >> Thank You in Advance! >> >> Scott Pope >> Network and Operations Officer >> Arbuckle Communications, LLC >> Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234> >> Mobile: 580-277-1108 <(580)%20277-1108> >> www.arbucklecomm.com >> "We Are Built For Business" >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again
Just be sure to educate yourself on your insurance needs and review the policy with a fine tooth comb! On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: > Risk strategies has been awesome > > On Feb 3, 2017 12:07 PM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a >> non-renewal notice with reason code being they no longer insure ISPs. No >> losses for a decade. >> >> Any suggestions out there? We're talking about bulidings, towers, >> liability, etc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marco C. Coelho >> Argon Technologies Inc. >> POB 875 >> Greenville, TX 75403-0875 >> 903-455-5036 <(903)%20455-5036> >> >> ___ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Insurance once again
I had the same issue. After going to a LOCAL, REPUTABLE AGENT we ended up saving money and can beat on his door when/if there are issues! On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Apparently Liberty Mutual has misplaced their testes and has sent us a > non-renewal notice with reason code being they no longer insure ISPs. No > losses for a decade. > > Any suggestions out there? We're talking about bulidings, towers, > liability, etc. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > -- > Marco C. Coelho > Argon Technologies Inc. > POB 875 > Greenville, TX 75403-0875 > 903-455-5036 > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] GREAT NEWS FOR NET NEUTRALITY: TRUMP SELECTS AJIT PAI TO HEAD FCC
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/great-news-for-net-neutrality-trump-selects-ajit-pai-to-head-fcc_012017 -- -RickG KyWiFi ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] The Cord Cutting Sales Pitch
True, it is a very competitive field. Reminds me of VoIP. With that said, it will be interesting to see if customer loyalty gets you anything in that space. On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Mike Meluskey <m...@broadband.vi> wrote: > With Sling TV, Roku, Netflix, AppleTV, Fire, etc. I don’t see a way to > compete with the wave of content that is being offered by doing our own > IPTV solution. > Here is a website we put together, but have not actively promoted (yet): > > http://cutthecord.vi/ > > > On Dec 27, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > > We have several areas where we will soon have FTTH or 50Mbps+ Wireless > available and feel we are capable of competing against the cable company on > speed/price for Internet service. It seems like some portion of current > cable customer would be resistant to change without us being able to > provide their TV service. > > We have been evaluating two IPTV service offerings and just don't feel > like they are going to be profitable or a good business line to invest in > long term. Interested in feedback but between the slim margins, setup > costs, ongoing support, and the transport or transit that would be required > it seems break-even would be a best case. I know it would probably win us > more internet customers but not sure it would be enough to be worthwhile. > > We have done satellite TV sales in the past and I don't want to get back > into that either. > > I am curious if any of you are actively marketing or encouraging streaming > to try to make cord cutting part of your sales pitch. We are even > considering giving one of the $30 Roku players along with installation. I > am curious how you are marketing this and how much support you offer to > people on the streaming side. Like most rural areas we have a large number > of not very tech savvy users. > > Also curious about installing OTA TV antenna as an additional service at > installation. Anyone doing that and how is that working out? > > Thanks > Chris Fabien > LakeNet LLC > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- -RickG KyWiFi ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Mark, You just made my point, it appears to me that WISPA, many WISP's, and small business owners in general have done their best to work with the system. And what rewards do we get for it? I dont know about you but the system is killing me! Mark my words, unless things change, the system that is beginning to fail us now will eventually totally fail us. Sorry for sounding so pessimistic but after watching our government at work after 35 years, the only thing positive is that it can change if we want it to but it's gonna be a long, hard fight. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: You absolutely have a right to chase your dreams in this country, as opposed to other countries. But you have to temper yourself with the absolute fact that you belong to a system. Successful business owners either work within the system, or find a way around it. Do what you can, when you can, to affect change, but to try to wholesale uproot the system is going to cause you persistent pain and anguish. On 7/19/2011 8:15 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: +1 ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:04 PM *To:* fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire ** ** it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services *With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government allows us to be in business that IS the problem. Telecom Act or no, regulation or no, there should be no question that we are allowed to make a living the way we want to regardless.* On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: I am going to address your points backwards:- You wrote --- And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. - We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed... The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services . and it is THE DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's off. You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to continue in this business. Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL EDGE sword here... ---You wrote- You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its soundness and validity. Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and every one has his own right to interpret the events . You wrote - Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with this administration or do a follow up with the previous administration.. that is as partisan as one can get I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the wrong organization.. it is not in WISPA's charter or mission, maybe should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov. has operated for the last 200 years WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)... While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA forums is more like 'Don Quixote Tilting at the windmills Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote: A plan of action? If I said
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
to watch closely what we inform membership, prepare to be involved because unless you are content with the current frequencies and rules we are under you will directly be affected by this Congressional action. If we give in to these irrational rules don't think Congress or the legacy characters will stop there, if they sell the revenue model successfully they could go after existing frequencies too. WISPA will be releasing talking points next week so that you can help us by making appointments with your Congressperson while they are in district during the month of August. We really need to educate them that this path is bad for America and their constituents. If you need constant updates please join the Legislative Committee as we will be posting most of the Legislative work in that venue. Thank you for your time and we appreciate you realizing the huge task we have ahead of us. Forbes Mercy WISPA VP/Legislative Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
So it wasnt the 1996 Telecom Act that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: ** No policy that I'm aware of prevented anyone from being an ISP. It was a cost issue. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 7/16/2011 8:03 PM, RickG wrote: it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services With all due respect, it's exactly the mindset that government allows us to be in business that IS the problem. Telecom Act or no, regulation or no, there should be no question that we are allowed to make a living the way we want to regardless. On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: I am going to address your points backwards:- You wrote --- And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. - We have been wireline ISP's first, since 2000, if you really believe what you wrote (above) then you are truly mis-informed... The simple facts are ... it is Regulation (1996 Telecom Act) that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services . and it is THE DEREGULATION over the past 5 years, that has been KILLING the ISP's off. You forget, that if you don't have the ability to connect to other networks in a fair and equitable manner, you are not going to be able to continue in this business. Get a grip of reality and the full picture.. you are playing with a DUAL EDGE sword here... ---You wrote- You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its soundness and validity. Not sure where you are coming up with this from ...however each and every one has his own right to interpret the events . You wrote - Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. hehe.. when you start off a paragraph with this administration or do a follow up with the previous administration.. that is as partisan as one can get I agree with your 'Principle Numero Uno', but you are harking at the wrong organization.. it is not in WISPA's charter or mission, maybe should be a member of the SBA association, or FISPA or COMPTEL ... but then again you will have to get your head straight about how the US Gov. has operated for the last 200 years WISPA's mission has been to address issues related to Wireless, (not business, not telephone service, not hosted services, etc etc)... While I understand your frustration with the Gov., and do agree with some of your points, but what you keep putting forward on the WISPA forums is more like 'Don Quixote Tilting at the windmills Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/16/2011 12:59 AM, MDK wrote: A plan of action? If I said this is what WISPA should do and laid it out in detail, all you'd do is say who are you? Why should we hacve to do what you say? Frankly, I have no idea why you're having difficulty. You see, when you have proper business principles as your guiding mechanism, what you should do is crystal clear. Nobody needs to write out a plan of action, it becomes self evident - you always advocate FOR the proper and best thing. And, after being consistent, year after year, and when stuff like this comes up, which becomes so blatantly obviously a result of failure to follow true principle, again, nothing is obscure or difficult. Additionally, I said absolutely NOTHING partisan. Not even ideological. It's simple straightforward business principles. Principle Numero Uno is have the freedom to be in business, and there is nothing convoluted or difficult about that. You seem to be interested in mere expediency. That's what's gotten us
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
Bingo! It had nothing to do with the wireless business. On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 7/17/2011 01:44 PM, RickG wrote: So it wasnt the 1996 Telecom Act that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services It didn't allow entry into the internet business per se. It allowed entry into the DSL business. It allowed entry into the local dial tone business. This is worth good money to some ISPs today, and it was necessary to prevent the PSTN from melting down during the dial-up boom in 1997-2000. The Bell alternative was to price ISPs too high to create congestion. It led to EELs, which allow some ISP-CLECs to reach non-local commercial customers at much lower rates than Special Access. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
no body was scrambling to build private networks to connect to them But those were early days. If left alone, we may have had something more advanced and even better. At the very least, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. ;) On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Yes may be true .. but I think it would be naive this think so.. The evolution of the telecom and internet, I believe are inter-related, think of it this way.. if there was no internet, then why would folks need your wireless connection ? Least we forget before the internet, there were the BBS operators.. and a couple of very large ones.. CompuServe ? Prodigy ? IBM ? etc etc. those .no body was scrambling to build private networks to connect to them :) So my question to the wireless folks is .. if there was no Internet Boom, which had a significant relationship with the Telcom Boom.. where would you all be today ? The Wire line ISP's learned the hardway...that their ability to continue offering services was tied to 'Regulations'... and forces were already in play which the ISP's in general choose to ignore (it does not affect us..) and the outcome of those decision ended up being their demise. At the end of the day, we are all in the same boat.. (providing communication services) to our customers.. I believe it would be prudent to really think things thru before you / us / we / just take a blanket position on Regulation or DeRegulation. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/17/2011 3:50 PM, RickG wrote: Bingo! It had nothing to do with the wireless business. On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 7/17/2011 01:44 PM, RickG wrote: So it wasnt the 1996 Telecom Act that allowed us (ISP's) to be able to go into the business of providing internet access and other communication services It didn't allow entry into the internet business per se. It allowed entry into the DSL business. It allowed entry into the local dial tone business. This is worth good money to some ISPs today, and it was necessary to prevent the PSTN from melting down during the dial-up boom in 1997-2000. The Bell alternative was to price ISPs too high to create congestion. It led to EELs, which allow some ISP-CLECs to reach non-local commercial customers at much lower rates than Special Access. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 %2B1%20617%20795%202701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
by Congress and their answer seems to be one of 'lets just put all frequencies up for bid, licensed and unlicensed'. None of us WISP's could afford to bid against the likes of ATT and Verizon and it has the potential of locking all small business out of any future frequencies. Yesterday the Legislative, FCC, and Promotions Committee of WISPA got together and released a letter to all Congressional Members of several committees relevant to this battle, in addition we paid to have a formal press release sent to the media objecting to this path that both the Senate and House seem to be pursuing. We are now interviewing potential Lobbyists (something we've never needed before) and, other firms that can help us with this new front we have to fight on. Where WISPA will have to go to get the ear of Congress to stop this insane path is all new to us but we are up to the challange. We have great legal counsel, members that can attend and testify hearings, allies in other groups such as New America feel the pain like us on this issue. We will be making alliances, learning how to do social networking to reach our members, our members subscribers and, anyone who will side with us to form grass roots efforts to get the attention of Congress. At this point we are not asking for a special assessment or other means to aggressively answer this call, we are within budget so far but it's hard to say how far this will go. We simply are asking you to watch closely what we inform membership, prepare to be involved because unless you are content with the current frequencies and rules we are under you will directly be affected by this Congressional action. If we give in to these irrational rules don't think Congress or the legacy characters will stop there, if they sell the revenue model successfully they could go after existing frequencies too. WISPA will be releasing talking points next week so that you can help us by making appointments with your Congressperson while they are in district during the month of August. We really need to educate them that this path is bad for America and their constituents. If you need constant updates please join the Legislative Committee as we will be posting most of the Legislative work in that venue. Thank you for your time and we appreciate you realizing the huge task we have ahead of us. Forbes Mercy WISPA VP/Legislative Chair WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
for the benefit OF THE OWNER, that's us.The FCC and Congress are managing for the benefit of the federal treasury and the donations to campaigns - which is the polar opposite of managed for the good of the people. In the previous post, I wrote an analogy, one where the city effectively puts every service and business up for licensure at auction. It takes no imagination at all to see that the city coffers and the winning bidder are the beneficiaries and the people are the losers. Spectrum is a public or national resource held in trust by the federal government. Auctions to the highest bidder do not benefit anyone but the monopoly holder and the treasury, by creating monopolies or very limited competition. Again, we as consumers and businessmen are the losers. Imagine if there were enough spectrum delegated so that if us WISP's wanted to be mobile broadband providers we could, as well as cellular, or even video / audio broadcasters. Instead, such services have been delegated a minute slice of available spectrum, keeping up the price of the auctions - and the number of competitors down. Why? It is in the interest of politicians to separate us from our money. But their REAL job is to defend us keeping it. There are NOW myriad political allies to spread this message, to change the discussion from whom to screw out of lots of money to what is the best policy for the people and keep competition alive? And, that's the message that is NOT being advocated by WISPA, and it should be. You seem to think that the answer is to find the right pol to influence and the right committee members to lobby and the right allies to obstruct X or advance Y, but those are expediency, not principle. They should be TACTICS to a principled purpose, one that will attract others, on the basis of its soundness and validity. And lastly, about the FCC, the last administration's appointees were advocates for free markets and for competition and deregulation. Not particularly effective ones, but at least they were not our enemy. The current administration's people at the FCC are IN NO WAY our friend, for any way, manner, or purpose, and everything they want is bad for us and the country. STop talking political party talking points, and get some reality. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:01 PM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire Errr... and your point is ? Ok, I am a nobody... I have seen / read your emails, not once can I say I have been able to pick out a proposed specific, action or a plan of action from you My friend you and I can agree or dis-agree on concepts all day long... but the point still remains ... I for myself still am not able to ascertain what exactly is it that you have been proposing ? ( I understand the anger at all of the powers to be part...and I beg to differ when you start blaming ..'this administration'. I personally have been watching and following the FCC stuff, on sliding slopes, for the last 12 years..that according to my calculations has been multiple administrations.) You clear your head, and try to articulate your position in a non-partisan manner, which can be understood by the general public, and put forward a reasonably understandable plan of action I guarantee you, you will have many here who would be willing to listen and follow your lead... But if you continue expressing yourself in the convoluted manner, as in your email belowthen there is a very high probability that these will continue to be chalked off as tirades and rants. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] The Legislative Situation Is Dire
And that's not regulation, that's bribery and corruption! Maybe we need to regulate the regualtors?!?! On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Curtis Maurand cmaur...@xyonet.comwrote: On 7/15/2011 9:03 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote: Forbes Mercy WISPA VP/Legislative Chair Just to give you an idea of what you're up against, the #1 provider of lobbying money and political donations to congress is the healthcare industry. They are followed by the telecom industry. --Curtis Maurand Biddeford, ME 04005 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
+1 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I like ARC Wireless, been happy with them. Never heard of Lanbowan or Jirous. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas
I'll save Chuck from having to type this again: http://www.ubnt.com/stock :P On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Jawad A Hai ahja...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Hello Jerry, Thank YOu for the suggestion. You have exactly understood my problem, I read specs and bring the product and test then compare it with other I always had issues. My main issues is the place where I live I don’t have liberty of importing using direct channels. I have to use backdoors for importing and I usually import large numbers and keep them in stock. The stock usually last for 2-4 months. Problem now is UBNT is out of stock and waiting time is 6 weeks +. Appreciate your reply Jerry. *From:* Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:48 PM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas Jawad, There is no simple answer to this. ** ** You have to take manufactuer specs with a grain of salt as many will skew the numbers leading you to believe the product is better than it is. The other issue is that in many cases the product is a re-branded product made by someone else. ** ** Truth be told, if you want PtP in noisy environments you might consider using the new Ubiquity RocketM-GPS radios. You will be able to run channels closer together and in some cases re-use channels which will help a lot. The kits are low-cost and high performance, and the dishes work great. ** ** For panels, ARC has always performed as I expected it to. ** ** - Jerry ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jawad A Hai *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:15 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] PtP Flat Panel and MiMo Dish Antennas ** ** Hello, I have posted below in several forums without success, I will appreciate if you some body can advise me. Hi, This is my first post in the forum.( have posted in mikrotik and ddwrt without any luck ) I wanted to know what antennas users/Pros use for PtP needs.(Apart from UBNT) Both Flat Panel and MiMO dish as well as Panel. i was looking at different companies like Lanbowan, Jirous, ARCWireless. Lanbowan has 27 dbi Flat Panel, which others are not offering. ARC has got good reviews on mikrotik forum but jirous has got best port to port isolation(MIMO). Can you all please share your thoughts on antennas. Cuz a good Radio is nothing without a good antenna. My requirement is to have a good PtP links distance from 10-50 KMs range in very crowded environments. I have been trying different brands with different results and its difficult to test the brands in live environments, just thinking to take an advise here on the forum and buy the same and test it. Its not about just one link or two, i needed some permanent vendor. Thank YOu -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3762 - Release Date: 07/13/11*** * -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO
+1 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I have never in all my years of working with Ubiquiti products had issues with rma's...in fact they are better then most other companies out there. Chuck On Friday, June 24, 2011, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: It is interesting. But I am just astonished that a company with annual sales in excess of $100M can't do a better job of supporting their customers. Relying on the forum and a couple of overworked CSRs is just ridiculous. I still can't get answers to my emails or returns of RMA'd items. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO That was a very interesting read. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/06/20/ubiquiti-networks-files-200m-ipo.html -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Regards, Chuck WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO
The forums are good and then you got Ben :) On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Please advise what RMA's you are having trouble with. Send to me here: ben.mo...@ubnt.com. Our RMA process is typically very good (we have heard from many customers that it is one of the better in the industry). Let me know RMA #'s and will look into this. Sorry for the trouble you have experienced. Regards, Ben On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote: It is interesting. But I am just astonished that a company with annual sales in excess of $100M can't do a better job of supporting their customers. Relying on the forum and a couple of overworked CSRs is just ridiculous. I still can't get answers to my emails or returns of RMA'd items. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO That was a very interesting read. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/06/20/ubiquiti-networks-files-200m-ipo.html -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller
I thought RB750 is EOL? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Check their site. I think they just came out with some PoE stuff. Otherwise the RB750 is enough to handle many many sessions. There are plenty of How To's on VPN server/client. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Shoemaker *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:14 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller That could work. I like that idea. I’m a Mikrotik novice, what sort of hardware should I be using? Anything with PoE injector built in to power the UniFi APs? -- Patrick Shoemaker *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:46 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Why not use MT Routers to PPTP tunnel the remote networks back to your NOC with one one server managing/monitoring all the networks? Less costly and you get the benefit of a single server to view all the networks and a MT on site for diagnostics and bandwidth management. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Shoemaker *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:21 AM *To:* WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) *Subject:* [WISPA] UBNT hotspot controller Is anyone using Ubiquiti’s UniFi APs and running the controller software on a device other than a normal PC server? I’d like to deploy these things at some remote locations (free public WiFi hotspots) and am looking for a single board computer or something like a SheevaPlug that will run the controller software and is small, inexpensive, and doesn’t consume much power. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3703 - Release Date: 06/14/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Towers
Maybe their heavy duty models but the light and medium weight have weak cross bracing that hurts your feet? I've seen heavy winds twist bend them too easily. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:33 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: *Price wise Titan freestander... Make sure you buy it from a distributor that gets it already kitted. Got several of these from Tessco a few years ago and they were a nightmare because Tessco kitted the tower ** themselves** ** **Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless* -Original message- *From: *Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net* To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org* Sent: *Wed, May 25, 2011 19:58:03 GMT+00:00* Subject: *[WISPA] Towers WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel
No matter what quality, the shirt inevitably get ripped torn from heavy use such as doing installs and climbing towers. I buy the cheapest shirts so I can replace them often. On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: OK, Lets look at this from a different angle Durability. I've never been a fan of brand name, until Ralph Lauren Polo brand Polo shirts. They might cost two three four times as much, but they last longer than any other brand polo style shirt I've ever bought, years compared to months. Even high end department store brands are lucky to make it longer than 1 or 2 towerclimbs before they look like they are on their last leg, with snags. And if the tower doesn't kill it, surely the Coffee Mug spill on the drive in will, or the mustard stain from lunch on the run will. So, how is the quality durablity of the shirts, from the online stores you members are recommending? Any hints on the type (specifications) shirt that will last in the field for the working man WISP? With that said... I had gotton some polo shirts made by Anvil which were 100% cotton for $8 each, and they seemed just as durable as any other brand I bought, (other than RL Polo). (google search for Anvil can find sellers of). I figured if I wasn't going to find top quality, I'd go quantity, and at $8 a peice, so what if I had to replace them after a few weeks in the field. (I had my neighbor embroider them who had a busienss doing that. ). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - *From:* Forrest Christian f...@mt.net *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2011 6:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel Cabelas evidentally does this also, although I haven't tried it out yet... http://corporateoutfitter.cabelas.com On 5/18/2011 7:03 PM, RickG wrote: www.queensboro.com On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Cintas works for us. Shirts are inepensive and logo is only $4 per shirt and a $50 setup fee. Shirt prices range from $9-$50. Regards, Chuck On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: That is what we do, as well From: Cameron Crum [mailto:cc...@wispmon.com] To: WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org] Sent: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel Or go buy all the shirts and take them to an embroidery place. I got a bunch of the same brand/style in the sizes and colors I needed at Costco and had one of my customers who had an amazing computer controlled embroidery machine put our logo on them. They turned out great! Cameron On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 13:54, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have found this to be an issue. All the retail shops want to do a min or 12 like shirts. Basically I have 4 staff that are everywhere from size small to 4X with me doing different names and different colors and different sizes I doubt that I have more than 2 shirts the same. You'll probably have better luck finding a small local outfit to do this, precisely because the big companies usually have large minimum orders. If you do want to do it all online, try customink.com. Can't vouch for their embroidery, but I've ordered hundreds of screen-printed T-shirts through them with no problems. Their Web site they have a minimum embroidery order of just 6 shirts, and you can mix-and-match. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG
Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel
www.queensboro.com On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Cintas works for us. Shirts are inepensive and logo is only $4 per shirt and a $50 setup fee. Shirt prices range from $9-$50. Regards, Chuck On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: That is what we do, as well From: Cameron Crum [mailto:cc...@wispmon.com] To: WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org] Sent: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Staff Apparel Or go buy all the shirts and take them to an embroidery place. I got a bunch of the same brand/style in the sizes and colors I needed at Costco and had one of my customers who had an amazing computer controlled embroidery machine put our logo on them. They turned out great! Cameron On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 13:54, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have found this to be an issue. All the retail shops want to do a min or 12 like shirts. Basically I have 4 staff that are everywhere from size small to 4X with me doing different names and different colors and different sizes I doubt that I have more than 2 shirts the same. You'll probably have better luck finding a small local outfit to do this, precisely because the big companies usually have large minimum orders. If you do want to do it all online, try customink.com. Can't vouch for their embroidery, but I've ordered hundreds of screen-printed T-shirts through them with no problems. Their Web site they have a minimum embroidery order of just 6 shirts, and you can mix-and-match. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters
Tropos had a unit as well. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a streetlight to get power. -- Original Message -- From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400 Used some of these in a few deployments http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l ighting-poles-6618 Made in Illinois. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote: Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by power/phone etc with success? I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area coverage -- Thanks, Cam Kilton -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fuel surcharge for Customer Repairs?
Thats how I've always handled it. With that said, there are things we are not responsible for because the equipment is in the customer's care. Up until now, we havent charge for acts of God but we're close to doing so. Actually, we're considering pushing our $5/month protection plan. My analogy is similar to leasing a car: the leasing company expects to you to cover everything! On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: IMHO, if you own the equipment, you are responsible for repair and upgrade of the equipment. Our policy is that if we roll the truck and the problem is not in our gear, you pay. Since switching to UBNT and MT, we can troubleshoot most anything remotely... On 4/28/2011 11:49 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: Any thoughts on a service charge for on-site CPE repairs or relocating equipment due to changed signals. We have a bit of a disagreement within as to whether this would be ethical. The customer does not own the equipment at their location. We use a lot of 900Mhz so there are regular equipment relocates due to interference or degraded signals. Thanks Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414 -- Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Safety Harness
Ditto! D-Rings padding makes life much easier up there! On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote: I have the Elk River also and like it. It has a built-in seat which makes suspended work much easier. Like sitting on a swing in a playground. Martha, feel free to stop by my office if you want to check it out before buying anything. -- Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems llcshoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36http://www.vectordatasystems.com On 4/18/2011 22:06, Josh Luthman wrote: Tessco or Midwest Unlimited. Brands are arguable. It's like Dewalt or Ryobi, Ford or Dodge, Dell or Gateway, etc Mine is Elk River. I think it's this one... http://www.midwestunlimited.com/detail.lasso?cat_master=1002cat_level=1254product_id=10679 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.netwrote: Can anyone tell me where they purchase Safety Harnesses? Is there a special kind or brand I should be looking for? Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 202-546-5898 *Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!** Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess or follow us on [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/dcaccess * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Update - what Matt Liotta has been doing...
Airmax ;) On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Matt, are you around? This method of farming can certainly grow produce where it would otherwise be impossible or impractical. It also is more resource efficient. However, I am curious how Matt can get a 136x increase in yield vs. conventional farming. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/16/2011 8:45 AM, Charles Wu wrote: From WISP to high-tech farmer to being profiled on CNN; gotta give the guy some credit... http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/04/16/podponics/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
Shared, aka burst = $99.95/month. Dedicated = $1000/month. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:37 AM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: Rick, what price are you offering 10 megs at? In our neck of the woods Towerstream is doing 8 meg at $800 per month. John On 4/5/2011 9:23 PM, RickG wrote: Thats what I thought which is why I spent so much time and money on upgrading. I've got 30-50 megs at nearly every tower and I started offering 10Mbps posted rates. I even lowered the upgrade prices above 3Mbps. Very few care and even fewer take it. In fact, I have some that ask if we have a slower plan! I'm starting to be concerned that dial-up is good enough! On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: For now. I doubt that you will be able to sustain that 90% with 1.5 or 3.0 indefinitely. I know we won't. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:08 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without the big antenna outside. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wuc...@cticonnect.com To:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralList wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW most of the test are half duplex tests. In few words, they do one direction, then the other direction (e.g. first the customer download, then the customer upload). Suppose you have a 10Mb half duplex: the test will tell you that you have 10Mb in one direction and 10Mb in the other direction. Then you use the connection in 10Mb full duplex and you will discover the story is totally different ;) Also, yes it's interesting to see what is happening on the network interface when the test is running... Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla Speedtest.net test are bogus 99.9% percent of the time because it's based on screwy test algorithms. On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote: Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up at Speedtest.Net to my handset -Charles
Re: [WISPA] PING
Better than being on meth ;) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: response in 385 ms. I'm on Verizon. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: just checking WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
Thats what I thought which is why I spent so much time and money on upgrading. I've got 30-50 megs at nearly every tower and I started offering 10Mbps posted rates. I even lowered the upgrade prices above 3Mbps. Very few care and even fewer take it. In fact, I have some that ask if we have a slower plan! I'm starting to be concerned that dial-up is good enough! On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: For now. I doubt that you will be able to sustain that 90% with 1.5 or 3.0 indefinitely. I know we won't. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2011 9:08 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without the big antenna outside. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wuc...@cticonnect.com To:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralListwireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW most of the test are half duplex tests. In few words, they do one direction, then the other direction (e.g. first the customer download, then the customer upload). Suppose you have a 10Mb half duplex: the test will tell you that you have 10Mb in one direction and 10Mb in the other direction. Then you use the connection in 10Mb full duplex and you will discover the story is totally different ;) Also, yes it's interesting to see what is happening on the network interface when the test is running... Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla Speedtest.net test are bogus 99.9% percent of the time because it's based on screwy test algorithms. On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote: Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up at Speedtest.Net to my handset -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update
We dont have lines forming but we get as many customers are I want/need. Sure, I could get lots more if I wanted but it's just more to worry about. As far as Telco's, my ATT contacts says High Cap sales are virtually nill around here. My Time Warner Rep says the same. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: You can always upgrade More! The key central question is ... how to 'Capitalize' on it and make some Money. There are always two ways the Market move .. Either PUSH (try to sell your excess capacity on the network , making it attractive , lower the selling price, while increasing margins ... or Packaging your products differently for a different Target Market). or PULL .. where the customers are knocking on your doors to demand more. So.. here is bit of Challenge for All of US, including Rick Travis If we have the capacity to deliver the high bandwidth to our customers.. and in our market place the Phone Company is still selling T1' s and Metro Ethernet's like hot cakes.. then there is only one possible conclusion . We need to Review our products / pricing / packaging strategy... since we are leaving a LOT on the Table.. now, if you tell me that in your / our market place.. the Telco's are hurting in business because folks are lining up purchase your / our circuits.. .then and only then I can say you are starting to 'saturate' your territory.. time to expand and break new ground. Some Food For Thought.. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 4/6/2011 12:08 AM, RickG wrote: +100%! I've upgraded my network to the point that I cant anymore but 90% of the customers are fine with 1.5 or 3Mbps! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: The other question is how much do you pay for the service? It all comes down to price. I can deliver 10Mbps x 10Mbps up to 300Mbps x 300Mbps to anyone that wants it... however, most people don't want to pay for it... ;) Travis Microserv On 4/5/2011 5:37 AM, Charles Wu wrote: It's generally known that the 20 Mb burst given by cable companies is throttled to sustained download speeds in the 1-3 Mb range That said, the point I'm trying to make is that the technology has come so far for mobile cellular data that we are now unconsciously comparing it side-by-side to fixed terrestrial broadband technologies (think of it this way, how many WISPs can deliver up-to speeds of 8-10 Mb to a low power handset in the middle of a concrete building 3+ miles away from a tower) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update I just checked my Charter via Ookla and it said I was getting 20 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up, horse pucky. I only get that in speedtests and never when I have to upload or download a big file via FTP or whatever. It generally gets throttled to dial up speeds or worse. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update Sitting in my living room at 8 pm3 bars, laptop connected to wireless router on phone http://www.speedtest.net/result/1236758959.png -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW Yeah, its nice when a product is brand new, and you get the whole sector all to yourself. I guess, its amazing that you are getting the speed to a handset, without the big antenna outside. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wuc...@cticonnect.com To:paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralList wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW It is my understanding that Verizon is deploying an FDD version of LTE -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW most of the test are half duplex tests. In few words, they do one direction, then the other direction (e.g. first the customer download, then the customer upload). Suppose you have a 10Mb half duplex: the test will tell you that you have 10Mb in one direction
Re: [WISPA] Nothing on Ebay
No Returns Accepted On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Cliff Leboeuf cliff.lebo...@cssla.comwrote: I can find anything on Ebay. How about NOTHING? http://cgi.ebay.com/BUY-NOTHING-/200592911741?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb444ed7d Place you bid now before NOTHING is left! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
If you use QOS then they are not using the internet the way they choose. They want it wide open. Besides, this is not about choice. In my scenario, they still have a choice. If people understood how a network works then they would glad to do as I say. For instance, what if there were no traffic lights or laws such as speed limits and those that keep slower traffic in the right lane? The roads would be a mess! Tell me the difference? For me, I want a nice, neat, efficient network that allows me to take advantage of it when I need it to. I'd pay a premium to do so just like those who pay to use high capacity lanes in the big city. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I think alot of what your talking about is going to be market driven. Right now none of my competition uses caps on their business customers and neither can I. I use QOS and wimax to try to keep everything fair but my customers feel like they should be able to use their Internet in any way they choose. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:15 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, I respectfully disagree. First off, applications being run on my network ARE my business. Many apps can have detrimental effect on it and therefore I have a right and responsibility to say what can run on it. Secondly, priority bits simply cost more to provide and tax the network more than non-priority. Everyone expects their high priority apps (video/voice) to be first in line without delays and that's really what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile, we have been focusing on raw usage but that is only a part of the equation. Just billing for monthly overages does not consider daily peak usage times. In fact, in questioning many customers, they would be happy to pay a premium for a high-priority, low latency connection for certain apps. Heck, I can even see premiums for usage based on the time of day but that may be pushing it. This may sound extreme but everyone laughed at me back in 1997 when I bought an Allot box for UBB. BTW:While economic optimization is good, network optimization is better. Over the years, I've seen fast networks and slow networks, I'd pay more any day to be on a fast network. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 3/29/2011 01:20 PM, RickG wrote: I still say there needs to be more than just caps. There needs to be a matrix of billing by priority such as video at .03/meg, file transfer at .02, email at .01, etc. Heck, perhaps HD can be .05 and SD at .03? (Prices are just for arguments sake) Well, no, there doesn't. Applications are none of the network's business. That's one reason why DPI is evil. HOWEVER, I am not opposed to appliation-agnostic billing for usage, by QoS. It is perfectly reasonable for a network to charge for usage that imposes a cost. And while the teevee fiends are sure, just certain, that 300 GB/month imposes precisely zero cost on the network, I doubt many WISPs would agree. Especially rural ones who have to pay for backhaul, or who have multi-hop networks. IP, of course, is one-size-fits-all, with QoS being rare. Hence caps and overage charges are a way to do cost averaging for the majority (since people hate billing for usage), while still hitting the heaviest users. Block pricing (like wireless, having say 10, 50, and 150 GB/month plans, plus overage) also works. And if you go beyond plain old IP and do have a QoS-enabled protocol, then lower-loss or delay-limited (or whatever) traffic should carry a premium. Regardless of what it's used for. Then the applications could adapt to the pricing. This leads towards economic optimization. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at http://ionary.comionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
I'm not sure my argument is the same as theirs but actually that's my point. Currently, I cant allow certain applications such as PTP due to lack of network and billing inefficiencies. In my scenario, you would be able to run any application but there will be a cost associated with it. As far as the ILEC's - as long as they take public funds I feel we have a right to their networks. I dont feel we have the same right with CableCo's. AFAIK, TW doesn't have to allow me to have access but they do for a price. -RickG Not as much late night climbing these days as continue to add redundancies. Thanks! On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: Rick, Be-careful when going down this road... this is slippery slopes... This is the exact argument used by the ILEC's / and Cable Co's to keep folks like you and me to connect to their networks. The one attribute of the Internet has been 'no one is going to mess with the apps running on it'... that is the primary sole attribute of the Internet that has made it what it is... There is noting wrong with they way you look at your network, but if everyone looked at their network in this manner, we all would not be in business... Just pointing out that there is a sensible middle ground in this debate, but be very careful as you start to define terms and conditions.. What you do for your customers is exactly what the Upstream providers can do for us who are downstream and their customers.. :) Regards.. Hope you are doing well and not climbing towers late at night . Faisal Imtiaz On 3/29/2011 11:15 PM, RickG wrote: Fred, I respectfully disagree. First off, applications being run on my network ARE my business. Many apps can have detrimental effect on it and therefore I have a right and responsibility to say what can run on it. Secondly, priority bits simply cost more to provide and tax the network more than non-priority. Everyone expects their high priority apps (video/voice) to be first in line without delays and that's really what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile, we have been focusing on raw usage but that is only a part of the equation. Just billing for monthly overages does not consider daily peak usage times. In fact, in questioning many customers, they would be happy to pay a premium for a high-priority, low latency connection for certain apps. Heck, I can even see premiums for usage based on the time of day but that may be pushing it. This may sound extreme but everyone laughed at me back in 1997 when I bought an Allot box for UBB. BTW:While economic optimization is good, network optimization is better. Over the years, I've seen fast networks and slow networks, I'd pay more any day to be on a fast network. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 3/29/2011 01:20 PM, RickG wrote: I still say there needs to be more than just caps. There needs to be a matrix of billing by priority such as video at .03/meg, file transfer at .02, email at .01, etc. Heck, perhaps HD can be .05 and SD at .03? (Prices are just for arguments sake) Well, no, there doesn't. Applications are none of the network's business. That's one reason why DPI is evil. HOWEVER, I am not opposed to appliation-agnostic billing for usage, by QoS. It is perfectly reasonable for a network to charge for usage that imposes a cost. And while the teevee fiends are sure, just certain, that 300 GB/month imposes precisely zero cost on the network, I doubt many WISPs would agree. Especially rural ones who have to pay for backhaul, or who have multi-hop networks. IP, of course, is one-size-fits-all, with QoS being rare. Hence caps and overage charges are a way to do cost averaging for the majority (since people hate billing for usage), while still hitting the heaviest users. Block pricing (like wireless, having say 10, 50, and 150 GB/month plans, plus overage) also works. And if you go beyond plain old IP and do have a QoS-enabled protocol, then lower-loss or delay-limited (or whatever) traffic should carry a premium. Regardless of what it's used for. Then the applications could adapt to the pricing. This leads towards economic optimization. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 %2B1%20617%20795%202701
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
Rick, Thats great! The real trick is can you prioritize AND bill accordingly? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote: At 10:37 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote: Wow that would be cool. Now just to find a device which can split all that out easily and maintain accounting. I have this all automatically controlled with a Packeteer. Eight levels of priority with on the fly per packet control, partitioning of bandwidth, and the ability to control both priority and volume on a per customer basis, right down to the actual type of traffic such as www or smtp, or Citrix, or you name it. Traffic discovery, makes graphs, runs scripts to change things on weekends for example, all kinds of features. These things are cheap on Ebay. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
Flamefests accomplish nothing! I agree with what you say below and at this point not sure what else I can add. Making it happen is what I want to see. I may be wrong but I truly beleive proper UBB it's the only way to true QOS on the internet, especially as applications continue to grow and become even bigger resource hogs. I beleive we previously established that you have a few years on me but this subject reminded me of back in '79 when I worked at IBM as an Engineer. Companies charged for usage of their multi-million dollar mainframes to both their internal and external customers in order to keep a handle on resources. The current attitude of internet users is that network resources are cheap. Over-usage is an unsustainable model even with Moore's Law in play. The next few years will be interesting to say the least! On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 3/29/2011 11:15 PM, RickG wrote: Fred, I respectfully disagree. I'm glad to see that we have a good discussion going here, and it's not a flamefest or anything. First off, applications being run on my network ARE my business. Many apps can have detrimental effect on it and therefore I have a right and responsibility to say what can run on it. Let's set that aside for a moment... Secondly, priority bits simply cost more to provide and tax the network more than non-priority. Everyone expects their high priority apps (video/voice) to be first in line without delays and that's really what all the fuss is about. I entirely agree. My original note, if you look carefully, said that priority and other higher-than-BE QoS *should* cost extra. Lack of a good charging model is one reason why we have a big BE Internet and not much else. But I'd like to see one. BTW, entertainment video is much more tolerant than voice. It can use retransmission and buffering, or find other strategies to cope. Real-time video (telepresence) is the bear. Meanwhile, we have been focusing on raw usage but that is only a part of the equation. Just billing for monthly overages does not consider daily peak usage times. I don't object to time-of-day pricing either. One rough example: Usage midnight to six, not counted. Usage 6AM to 9AM, counted half. In fact, in questioning many customers, they would be happy to pay a premium for a high-priority, low latency connection for certain apps. Heck, I can even see premiums for usage based on the time of day but that may be pushing it. This may sound extreme but everyone laughed at me back in 1997 when I bought an Allot box for UBB. BTW:While economic optimization is good, network optimization is better. Over the years, I've seen fast networks and slow networks, I'd pay more any day to be on a fast network. Sure. But if your network is capacity-constrained, or the cost of capacity is particularly high somewhere, then you have to make do with what you have. Which is why you care what apps are run. I am one of those old-timers who thinks that the Computer II decision was one of the smartest moves the FCC ever made. It literally made the ISP industry possible, and its revocation in 2005 directly created the network neutrality kerfuffle. CI II banned LECs from dealing in the upper layers; any enhanced services had to be on a fully separated basis. So it was literally against the law for the telco to ask what the application (in the layer 7 sense) was. But it could certainly offer services with optional QoS features that were optimized for different applications. So it might offer a CBR service (voice-optimized) and a BE (UBR) service (Internet-optimized). But if somebody ran voice over a BE service, that was their own issue, not the telco's. On the other hand, the ISP is explicitly not a common carrier, and thus has the right to be more specific. ISPs are above that boundary, not below. So sure, as an ISP, you should have the right to sell applications. There is no bright line between ISP and ASP, or between ISP and time-sharing service. (That ancient business has been revived under the moniker cloud.) So sure, you can do DPI if you want, provided that you do it in a way that respects customer privacy. Note that I do not think that DPI should go all the way in to the payload, as some systems do, or ferret out value from transactions, etc., as some vendors propose. I call that wiretapping. However, I'll quote R. Milhouse Nixon here and suggest that in most cases, you can do it, but it would be wrong. The reason is that the value proposition that customers want from the Internet is one of flexibility and openness. They probably don't want their ISP to be a mail-and-web service, although that's what Blackberries usually get (in exchange for unmetered usage of those applications). While I am not one who believes that all innovation happens at the edge, I don't want edge innovations to be blocked
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
It sounds like it has improved somewhat from when I was using the Allot box back in '97. It would be nice if there was more automation in the process. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote: It's been a lengthy learning curve, I've been forming this mechanism since around 2001 but it all works very well now. I use 5 levels of priority for customers, Level 0 through Level 4. Level 5 is for special use when needed and 6 is infrastructure equipment. Level 7 (top level) is reserved so I can reach things in the event of some other host or interface causing a packet storm or the like. Then the balancing act is grouping day-user businesses with night-user residentials, or whatever is needed to lump all customers into a few smaller groups. Then the total bandwidth is partitioned into the same number of slices as there are groups of customers. This becomes the CIR but is fundamentally based on priority. The burst then comes in from the scattering of priority levels within each group. Basically residentials are sacraficed during the week days for any other higher priority packet. But ceilings are also put in place to keep any one customer from sucking all the Ether out of the wire. That's also inherent in the grouping strategy. It's always a moving target though, and needs re-shuffling from time to time as the usage patterns of some users change over time. Some groups are geographical, but mostly it's random based on usage patterns. What I've seen change the most over the last 6-12 months especially is that residential is overtaking business. The night time bandwidth demands are equal to and starting to exceed daytime business demands. The former having ramped up considerably lately with movies and the like. A streaming Netflix standard def movie is roughly a 1.2 meg stream for a couple hours, but the duty cycle as I like to call it is only about 50% to 80%. Rk At 08:53 AM 3/30/2011, you wrote: Rick, Thats great! The real trick is can you prioritize AND bill accordingly? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rick Kunze mailto:rku...@colusanet.comrku...@colusanet.com wrote: At 10:37 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote: Wow that would be cool. Now just to find a device which can split all that out easily and maintain accounting. I have this all automatically controlled with a Packeteer. Eight levels of priority with on the fly per packet control, partitioning of bandwidth, and the ability to control both priority and volume on a per customer basis, right down to the actual type of traffic such as www or smtp, or Citrix, or you name it. Traffic discovery, makes graphs, runs scripts to change things on weekends for example, all kinds of features. These things are cheap on Ebay. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
I still say there needs to be more than just caps. There needs to be a matrix of billing by priority such as video at .03/meg, file transfer at .02, email at .01, etc. Heck, perhaps HD can be .05 and SD at .03? (Prices are just for arguments sake) On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet
lol! I know, which is why I still call it GW ;) On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: You better watch it. They get mad now when you call it that! Go check your Fax Daily! It’s called climate change, duh! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2011 11:19 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet Thats OK. Algore can get credit for global warming ;) On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: They left our poor old Al Gore. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: http://www.onlinemba.com/blog/internet-history/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming
Fred, I respectfully disagree. First off, applications being run on my network ARE my business. Many apps can have detrimental effect on it and therefore I have a right and responsibility to say what can run on it. Secondly, priority bits simply cost more to provide and tax the network more than non-priority. Everyone expects their high priority apps (video/voice) to be first in line without delays and that's really what all the fuss is about. Meanwhile, we have been focusing on raw usage but that is only a part of the equation. Just billing for monthly overages does not consider daily peak usage times. In fact, in questioning many customers, they would be happy to pay a premium for a high-priority, low latency connection for certain apps. Heck, I can even see premiums for usage based on the time of day but that may be pushing it. This may sound extreme but everyone laughed at me back in 1997 when I bought an Allot box for UBB. BTW:While economic optimization is good, network optimization is better. Over the years, I've seen fast networks and slow networks, I'd pay more any day to be on a fast network. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 3/29/2011 01:20 PM, RickG wrote: I still say there needs to be more than just caps. There needs to be a matrix of billing by priority such as video at .03/meg, file transfer at .02, email at .01, etc. Heck, perhaps HD can be .05 and SD at .03? (Prices are just for arguments sake) Well, no, there doesn't. Applications are none of the network's business. That's one reason why DPI is evil. HOWEVER, I am not opposed to appliation-agnostic billing for usage, by QoS. It is perfectly reasonable for a network to charge for usage that imposes a cost. And while the teevee fiends are sure, just certain, that 300 GB/month imposes precisely zero cost on the network, I doubt many WISPs would agree. Especially rural ones who have to pay for backhaul, or who have multi-hop networks. IP, of course, is one-size-fits-all, with QoS being rare. Hence caps and overage charges are a way to do cost averaging for the majority (since people hate billing for usage), while still hitting the heaviest users. Block pricing (like wireless, having say 10, 50, and 150 GB/month plans, plus overage) also works. And if you go beyond plain old IP and do have a QoS-enabled protocol, then lower-loss or delay-limited (or whatever) traffic should carry a premium. Regardless of what it's used for. Then the applications could adapt to the pricing. This leads towards economic optimization. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I know this is Canada, but I can just see some congressman here in the US one day bitch about not being able to cleaning watch the Jackass 3 movie from Netflix and demanding that all service providers get rid of bandwidth quotas and throttling by introducing a new bill. On 03/29/2011 11:26 AM, Matt wrote: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/data-caps-claim-a-victim-netflix-streaming-video.ars -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consultinghttp://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] History of the Internet
Thats OK. Algore can get credit for global warming ;) On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: They left our poor old Al Gore. On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: http://www.onlinemba.com/blog/internet-history/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
Like I said, probably on something - besides the tower :) On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: I don't know man, It seems like a lot of trouble to go to if you are just going to kill yourself. At 50' any fool can see you are high enough to get the job done. Even in the dark. On 3/18/2011 9:05 PM, RickG wrote: You know what happens when you assume :) But he was young and strong and it might be safe to assume on something... On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Actually, he didn't ride the elevator. I knew I read it... http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm An elevator in the tower stops about 45 feet short of the top. Ginopolis said the man did not appear to have access to the elevator, which is kept locked. “The only thing it’s safe to assume is that he got there under his own power,” Ginopolis said. “You have to climb the tower get to the top.” WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
You know what happens when you assume :) But he was young and strong and it might be safe to assume on something... On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Actually, he didn't ride the elevator. I knew I read it... http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm An elevator in the tower stops about 45 feet short of the top. Ginopolis said the man did not appear to have access to the elevator, which is kept locked. “The only thing it’s safe to assume is that he got there under his own power,” Ginopolis said. “You have to climb the tower get to the top.” http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:26 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Well, he didnt climb, it had an elevator. They just announced it a suicide. http://michiganmediacenter.com/2011/03/death-of-man-on-tv-tower-ruled-a-suicide/ On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Yea, right, a guy climbed 1,000' in his undies and a T-shirt, in the cold of Michigan. Something doesn't add up. I guess he could undress once he got to the top, but the story doesn't add up. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped from the sky? They didn’t said he was tied down or anything. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. LOL, isn’t that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 800-813-5123800-813-5123 x106 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the tower because he suffered from a mental disorder. lol - dont we all?!?! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
Well, he didnt climb, it had an elevator. They just announced it a suicide. http://michiganmediacenter.com/2011/03/death-of-man-on-tv-tower-ruled-a-suicide/ On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Yea, right, a guy climbed 1,000' in his undies and a T-shirt, in the cold of Michigan. Something doesn't add up. I guess he could undress once he got to the top, but the story doesn't add up. Regards, Chuck On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Makes me wonder because he died from blunt force trauma. Maybe dropped from the sky? They didn’t said he was tied down or anything. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Broadwick - Lists *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:47 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. LOL, isn’t that pretty much a BFOQ to leave terra firma and climb a piece of metal hundreds of feet into the sky? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123800-813-5123 x106 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2011 12:15 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy.. A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the tower because he suffered from a mental disorder. lol - dont we all?!?! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Always climb with a buddy......
A public safety official speculated that the man may have climbed the tower because he suffered from a mental disorder. lol - dont we all?!?! On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: http://www.agl-mag.com/newsletter/AB_031511_Oak_Park.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EnGenius ECB-3500 Comments??
And the new Unifi looks interesting! http://ubnt.com/unifi Anyone using them yet? On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Rick Lindahl ri...@invictusnetworks.comwrote: Hey Bob, I have lots of history with the EnGenius radios as well and generally while having lots of issues with the earlier EOC series, the indoor ECB series have been pretty solid. Another great alternative would the Ubiquiti PowerAPN. High Power, 2x MIMO 802.11bgn, switched ports, etc. Good luck and let me know if I can help Rick Lindahl Invictus Networks, LLC - 503-635-2562, F503-635-9207 www.invictusnetworks.com - www.invictuswireless.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EnGenius ECB-3500 Comments?? I was fed up with EnGenius long ago. Radios dying, defaulting, etc just made it impossible to do business. On Mar 14, 2011 5:18 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Anyone use this or have an opinion about its reliability, coverage, etc. Is it going to work or do I need to reboot it every 10 minutes or...? Need to provide a high powered indoor router for a client and this is what he likes Tnx -B- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Principal Members Map Updated
Tornadoes moved them? :) On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Chris, I just checked and you show up on the Principal Map. I have your icon at 35.525921, -98.709341. 214 W Main St Weatherford, OK 73096http://maps.google.com/?q=to:214%20W%20Main%20St%20Weatherford%2C%20OK%2073096 Rick *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *ch...@htswireless.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:40 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA Principal Members Map Updated I don’t even show up on there... Chris Hudson Hudson Technology Solutions, Inc. 214 W Main St. Weatherford, OK 73096 Office: 580-772-2224 *From:* Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:16 PM *To:* 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA Principal Members Map Updated This has been fixed Cameron. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:12 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA Principal Members Map Updated Rick, I noticed that our phone number on the vendor map is incorrect. It should be 817-764-0956. I'm not sure what the 920 number is that is on there. Regards, Cameron On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=170 To join WISPA, go to http://signup.wispa.org Attend the Orlando Service Provider Summit March 23-25http://fispawispaspring2011.eventbrite.com/ Respectfully, * * *Rick Harnish* Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service request
So did I and they do ;) Besides growing up there, I also worked there as a Field Engineer for IBM for nearly 10 years. Got to know every street like the back of my hand. Especially the places not to go! On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I grew up in LA... I didn't know the street names went that low!!! :) On 3/3/2011 5:01 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: 110 East 9th Street LA CA 90079 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Who can hit this address? 110 East 9th Street Looking for bus class alternative to dsl. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech
I had the same issue and canned them. Also, removed my Dell Gigabit switches. Got brand new HP Proliants and love them! On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last year, we bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling. Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just locking up with all lights on. We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business and to contact some place in China. They never even responded to our requests. I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are having the same trouble. Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them? Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with 24 port managed switches from Demarc-Tech
LOL, I said Proliant, I meant ProCurve :) http://h10144.www1.hp.com/products/switches/HP_ProCurve_Switch_1800_Series/overview.htm On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Rick... We had a Dell Gigabit switch go out. I think it was a 5324. What model Proliants are you buying that you love??? On 2/28/2011 1:45 PM, RickG wrote: I had the same issue and canned them. Also, removed my Dell Gigabit switches. Got brand new HP Proliants and love them! On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: When Tony Morella and Demarc-Tech was going out of business last year, we bought quite a few of the managed switches he was selling. Within a month, they were dropping like flies. Not dying, but just locking up with all lights on. We asked Tony for assistance but he said he was out of business and to contact some place in China. They never even responded to our requests. I’m asking whether anyone else purchased these dogs and if you are having the same trouble. Does anyone know is there is a firmware update for them? Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] users...
It's true. The good news is that the more you buy the cheaper it is per meg! On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: How much bandwidth is that exactly? I have found that if I have it, they will use it. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: a fun little note... three weeks ago, I doubled my networks available bandwidth... tonight, at 10:05PM EDT, those $#%@ users managed to saturate it again! Grrr WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
Whats the StarOS running on? What type of cards? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Can't speak to the 2.4GHz gear, but I've been using NS5, NS5loco, and various Tranzeo 5GHz gear with 10MHz channels on StarOS for almost 2 years without issues. On 2/8/11 10:13 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't connect. What am I doing wrong? I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE. I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE. I'm using 10Mhz channels. I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate. I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP. Can anyone think what I'm missing? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world
and I only know 3 chords! On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: shoot give me 10 billion and in 10 years I'll own and control most of the world are you thinking what I'm thinking pinky? I think so brain, but where are we going to find 50 gallons of jello to put in our leather pants! marco On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: $10 billion dollars for a national broadband system for Public Safety??? Hahahaha Motorola will eat that up just putting equipment in for NYC, Chicago, LA, Dallas, Miami, and Washington DC. Prevailing wage and union labor will chew that up so fast it won't be funny. Just like that other multibillion dollar deal to make more jobs -B- On 2/10/2011 5:44 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: “Obama's wireless plan involves increasing the space available on the airwaves for high-speed wireless by auctioning off space on the radiospectrum to commercial wireless carriers. The White House says this would raise nearly $30 billion over 10 years, and the money could be spent on initiatives that include $10 billion to develop a national broadband network for public safety agencies and $5 billion for infrastructure to help rural areas access high-speed wireless.” Doesn’t this just make more spectrum unavailable for general use? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:27 PM To: us...@wug.cc; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world Here's some more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama my response: Dear Mr. President, I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company. I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13 years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported areas. So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess things up. Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's still adds more work for those who have to live through it. We may even do pretty well buying up all that equipment that was purchased with the peoples monies and squandered. Leave business to the business people. We don't want your money, it came with too many strings attached. Rather than sell radio spectrum, also an asset of the people, you should designate more of it for the unlicensed bands that us WISPs use. Marco Coelho President, Argon Technologies Inc. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3434 - Release Date: 02/10/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
wrap or war? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Atheros, compex or CM9 cards. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the StarOS running on? What type of cards? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
+1 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: I would question whether using 10mhz channel size would work... you probably have to go back to standard 20mhz channel sizes to make them talk... this is just a guess... Travis Microserv On 2/8/2011 9:13 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't connect. What am I doing wrong? I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE. I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE. I'm using 10Mhz channels. I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate. I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP. Can anyone think what I'm missing? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
Correct. As an aside, UBNT 5GHz doesnt like StarOS/CM9 combos which I previously used for backhauls. The trick was to make the Ubiquiti radio the AP and the StarOS the station, then it works. Glad those days are over! On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: ... Sorry for short answer there is more info if you search the UBNT Forums. short / quick:- Don't use Airmax (Airmax off) Setup for 20mhz channels.. (other channel sizes may not be compatible). There is a bunch of ifs' and but's here.. the big question is what is it you are trying to do ? Transition ? or trying to make them all work together ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 2/8/2011 11:13 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't connect. What am I doing wrong? I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE. I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE. I'm using 10Mhz channels. I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate. I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP. Can anyone think what I'm missing? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Very Random 5GHz Noise Problem
There are plenty of 5GHz home routers as well ;( On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: 5ghz cordless phone system and just the right magic path. In one case it was only a issue when one of the cars were home, but not when the 2nd was also there (car vs jacked up truck). On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: I saw someone mention a problem in the 900MHz yesterday, but would anyone have any ideas as too what could be causing a problem in the 5GHz range? And I'm talking the entire 5GHz range (5-6GHz). At random times throughout the day our 5GHz customer get knocked off by what looks like a frequency hopping system putting out some serious power. The frustrating thing is that it's not consistent, but very random. We can go weeks without problems and then we get nailed, mostly on the weekends or evenings, but very rarely during business hours! The randomness of the problem has made tracking it nearly impossible. We are pulling our hair out as to what could be causing it. We've contact all other operators on the tower, none of them seem to be the culprit, even contacted BAE systems down the street that works on military radar, but they say they are not doing anything. Right now I'd take any idea/suggestion no matter how crazy they maybe! Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] $50 Google Voice Device for Free U.S./Can. Calling
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Re: [WISPA] [Board] WISP A Final Defination ...
+1 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Need to yank the * primarily governed by FCC Part 15 regulations *part, There are WISP all across the globe plus it's never a good idea to tie a government entity into an industry unless you want to invite yet more government regulation into that industry. Yeah, yeah, I know what we do is tied closely to the FCC regulations, but why make it lock step with the definitionIMHO. Also why tie the industry to fixed wireless? I'm keeping my eye on how to also service the mobile market, not in a cell phone way, but more towards the industry that the iPAD has created...that market is only going to grow dramatically over the coming year. *A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology to transport and sell fixed and/or other wireless broadband access or related Internet Protocol derived services to end users.* Bret Bret Clark Spectra Access 25 Lowell Street Manchester, NH 03101 www.spectraaccess.com On 02/04/2011 10:06 AM, Martha Huizenga wrote: I think this looks great. Thanks for taking this on Victoria! Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 202-546-5898 *Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!** Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/DCAccess or follow us on [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/dcaccess * On 2/4/2011 9:57 AM, Victoria Proffer wrote: *A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology, primarily governed by FCC Part 15 regulations; to transport and sell fixed wireless broadband access or related Internet Protocol derived services to end users.* *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO *** StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ *ShowMeBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ *** *BLOG: FarmingtonMO.us http://www.farmingtonmo.us/blog*** 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband *St. Louis WISP since 2003* SBA Certified WOSB [image: STLBBLogo] http://stlbroadband.com/ *WISPA Board of Directors 2010 - 2011*** *WISPA - Missouri State Coordinator* *[image: Wispa_logo2008SM]* http://wispa.org/** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: *This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting or destroying the e-mail and any attachments without retaining any copies. Thank you for your cooperation.* WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG image/gifimage/gifimage/gifimage/jpeg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP A Final Definition ...
like On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: We need to take part 15 out of there. 3.65 is part 90 and those outside the US do not abide by FCC rules. There are also WISP’s who would operate on EBS frequencies plus there is the whole part 101 thing. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax Skype: Radiowebst www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *St. Louis Broadband *Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2011 10:01 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] WISP A Final Defination ... *A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology, primarily governed by FCC Part 15 regulations; to transport and sell fixed wireless broadband access or related Internet Protocol derived services to end users.* *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO * StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ *ShowMeBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ * *BLOG: FarmingtonMO.us http://www.farmingtonmo.us/blog* 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband *St. Louis WISP since 2003* SBA Certified WOSB [image: STLBBLogo] http://stlbroadband.com/ *WISPA Board of Directors 2010 - 2011*** *WISPA - Missouri State Coordinator* *[image: Wispa_logo2008SM]* http://wispa.org/** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: *This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting or destroying the e-mail and any attachments without retaining any copies. Thank you for your cooperation.* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG attachment: image001.jpg attachment: image002.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP A Final Definition ...
*Why? How about: A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology, governed by FCC regulations; to transport and provide wireless broadband access and derived services to end users. Victoria, you're doing very well with a difficult task, good luck! * On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:46 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.comwrote: Then we need to include Part 90 and 101. We have to be frequency specific, IMHO. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com www.FarmingtonForum.com http://farmingtonforum.com/ 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2011 12:37 PM *To:* bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISP A Final Definition ... like On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: We need to take part 15 out of there. 3.65 is part 90 and those outside the US do not abide by FCC rules. There are also WISP’s who would operate on EBS frequencies plus there is the whole part 101 thing. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile (208) 692-1898 Fax Skype: Radiowebst www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *St. Louis Broadband *Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2011 10:01 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* [WISPA] WISP A Final Defination ... *A WISP is a Community based, Wireless Internet Service Provider that operates using terrestrial-based radio technology, primarily governed by FCC Part 15 regulations; to transport and sell fixed wireless broadband access or related Internet Protocol derived services to end users.* *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO * StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ *ShowMeBroadband.com http://showmebroadband.com/ * *BLOG: FarmingtonMO.us http://www.farmingtonmo.us/blog* 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband *St. Louis WISP since 2003* SBA Certified WOSB [image: STLBBLogo] http://stlbroadband.com/ *WISPA Board of Directors 2010 - 2011* *WISPA - Missouri State Coordinator* *[image: Wispa_logo2008SM]* http://wispa.org/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: *This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this e-mail or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by returning it to the sender and deleting or destroying the e-mail and any attachments without retaining any copies. Thank you for your cooperation.* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG image002.gifimage001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
Of course. But that wasnt the question :) On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:00 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:08, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: legally? If you turn the transmit power down, probably. Heck, the Bullet 2M makes it easy, with a Obey Regulatory Rules checkbox (just type in the antenna gain, and it sets the radio power accordingly). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
legally? On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: The two AirGrids are 16 and 20 dB. The NanoStation Loco is 8 and the NanoStation2 is 11. Or you can stick a Bullet2M on anything. Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
My Tranzeo CPE didnt like M radios. I've switched out most of my CPE to UBNT but where I didnt, I used regular Bullet's and Pico's as the Tranzeos work fine with those until I can get them swapped out with M radios. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We are making the switch from Tranzeo AP's and CPE's to Ubnt and have run into a problem. Seems that the Tranzeo CPE's don't play well with the Ubnt AP's. They will only bind when both are set to 20 Mhz and the Tranzeo CPE's lose there connection after a period of time and need to be power cycled to rebind to the Ubnt AP's. Anybody else having these problems and are there any work arounds? I have tried several different configurations and updated all to newest firmware, but no joy. Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
Yup! Thats the migration pattern I've been doing for over a year now. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Phil, Swap out the CPEs first, then you can swap the APs. That is what I'm doing and it seems to be working very well. The UBNT radios don't seem to have a problem associating to the older APs. I use StarOS for the APs instead of Tranzeo, but that shouldn't make much difference. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 1/29/2011 8:45 AM, RickG wrote: My Tranzeo CPE didnt like M radios. I've switched out most of my CPE to UBNT but where I didnt, I used regular Bullet's and Pico's as the Tranzeos work fine with those until I can get them swapped out with M radios. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We are making the switch from Tranzeo AP's and CPE's to Ubnt and have run into a problem. Seems that the Tranzeo CPE's don't play well with the Ubnt AP's. They will only bind when both are set to 20 Mhz and the Tranzeo CPE's lose there connection after a period of time and need to be power cycled to rebind to the Ubnt AP's. Anybody else having these problems and are there any work arounds? I have tried several different configurations and updated all to newest firmware, but no joy. Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
i havent had any issues with either as long as you dont use m. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote: All, In your experience, what tzt product has parity with what ubnt product? CPQ19=UBNT? SL9=UBNT? ryan On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: Phil, Swap out the CPEs first, then you can swap the APs. That is what I'm doing and it seems to be working very well. The UBNT radios don't seem to have a problem associating to the older APs. I use StarOS for the APs instead of Tranzeo, but that shouldn't make much difference. Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 1/29/2011 8:45 AM, RickG wrote: My Tranzeo CPE didnt like M radios. I've switched out most of my CPE to UBNT but where I didnt, I used regular Bullet's and Pico's as the Tranzeos work fine with those until I can get them swapped out with M radios. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We are making the switch from Tranzeo AP's and CPE's to Ubnt and have run into a problem. Seems that the Tranzeo CPE's don't play well with the Ubnt AP's. They will only bind when both are set to 20 Mhz and the Tranzeo CPE's lose there connection after a period of time and need to be power cycled to rebind to the Ubnt AP's. Anybody else having these problems and are there any work arounds? I have tried several different configurations and updated all to newest firmware, but no joy. Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...
LOL, they installed your Rocket mount in the wrong place! On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Whats wrong? No, its not an optical illusion lol Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Why you should always encrypt your smartphone
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/01/why-you-should-always-encrypt-your-smartphone.ars?utm_source=google%20gmailutm_medium=social-mediautm_campaign=addtoany -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Verizon Drops “New Every Two” Program
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Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Remember, it was on the general list... On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: WISPA talks to the FCC. How do you think they respond to us when we ask for something knowing we allow such actions? On Jan 14, 2011 11:50 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Josh, you're comparing apples to oranges. AFAIK, CN is not a competitor nor a member. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: WISPA is represented by its members. Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know, I've never met Bob but everyone on this list knows that he is a comedian at heart and and his post was done in satire. It's too bad people cant lighten up and enjoy life without taking offense to such things. Or was it that his post so close to the truth it hurt? Why do we eat our own on behalf of the enemy? As far as making WISPA look bad, are we really judged by the actions of one person? If so, WISPA needs to review the membership list and do a better scrutinizing who is allowed to join. Just my .02. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Ditto here! On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I didn't say that, but it is well known. Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect Kentucky. I said sure, send over the paperwork. It was a minimum $10k to be listed on the associates part. $50k to be a partner. Do they honestly think I can afford either? Guess who was partners? HughesNet, WildBlue, Bellsouth (ATT), Time Warner, Windstream, Insight... so when a customer in my area called them to see about access, even though I fully cooperated with CK, went to EVERY meeting, provided them with full mapping data and showed them how to use Radio Mobile, they referred them to HughesNet or WildBlue. They knew I had that area covered, it was very blatant, but because I didn't pay them the money, they referred them to an inferior product, satellite service. They were provided with MILLIONS!!! to do mapping for Kentucky. The maps they did were immediately removed and taken offline as soon as their funding ran out. It was done in spite of the Kentucky Government. The TAX PAYERS OWN THAT DATA, and they stole it from us all. Guess what happened another year later? Another company was hired to do THAT EXACT SAME MAPPING again, and yes, they got MILLIONS again. I tried MULTIPLE times to work with them, and MANY MANY MANY open ended promised were made by them. None of this is opinion, it's all FACT. Ask MANY MANY MANY people around the US that are under a Connect program. Most will show their displeasure. Regards, Chuck On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:41 PM, David Hannum oujas...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck said: It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front for the Bells. I would agree with that it is a well known opinion by many on this list. However, from what we've seen, they lobby as much, if not more, for independent companies like most of us are. They lobby for Broadband in general - they don't play favorites at the high level. However, they have some very knowledgible, dedicated wireless guys. And if you work very much with them, you'd see that wireles is all those guys are about. Dave Hannum New Era Broadband, LLC On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 1/15/2011 08:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised. However, nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and I do. After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this mapping, that public information was removed from their website. Millions of tax paying dollars down the drain. Because of the potential WISPA problems, I won't tell you how I really feel. I'm not a member (yet) so take that as a disclaimer. This is the public forum, not official correspondence. It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front for the Bells. Bob's satire was harmless, reflective of their value to independent ISPs, wireless and otherwise. If CN is whinging, let them, because it hit home. Bob's contributions have at times been a high point of this list. Not everything has to be somber. On Saturday, January 15, 2011, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Josh, you're comparing apples to oranges. AFAIK, CN is not a competitor nor a member. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: WISPA is represented by its members. Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know, I've never met Bob but everyone on this list knows that he is a comedian at heart and and his post was done in satire. It's too bad people cant lighten up and enjoy life without taking offense to such things. Or was it that his post so close to the truth it hurt? Why do we eat our own on behalf of the enemy? As far as making WISPA look bad, are we really judged by the actions of one person? If so, WISPA needs to review the membership list and do a better scrutinizing who is allowed to join. Just my .02. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules
Very good point. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Is Bob a member? I could be wrong - but I thought this was just on the public list ... that being said - since Anyone can post - and Anyone can join the public list - Perhaps it might be good for WISPA to have a disclaimer @ the Bottom of all emails - stating This is a public forum provided to the Internet Community at large. The comments and or opinions expressed are not endorsed by WISPA and are the sole responsibility of the person making the posting. :-) Just my 2 cents. On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: WISPA is represented by its members. Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know, I've never met Bob but everyone on this list knows that he is a comedian at heart and and his post was done in satire. It's too bad people cant lighten up and enjoy life without taking offense to such things. Or was it that his post so close to the truth it hurt? Why do we eat our own on behalf of the enemy? As far as making WISPA look bad, are we really judged by the actions of one person? If so, WISPA needs to review the membership list and do a better scrutinizing who is allowed to join. Just my .02. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ *Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com * Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Miss America
And now all your techs want to take service calls to her home ;) On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Shout out to Miss Nebraska, Theresa Scanlan. She won the talent competition today and is one of the youngest contestants ever in the show (17). The Scanlans are Vistabeam customers and we are very proud of Theresa and her entire family.12 months ago, she was carrying out groceries and now there is a great chance that she will be on the final stage of the pageant. Best wishes to you Theresa! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Job Posting
In that case, they might pry the radios from my cold, dead hands! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Jason Scobbie j.scob...@jpiworldwide.comwrote: Quick note about a job posting on the wispa.org classifieds ( http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2298id=236). Looking for a couple staff for WISP installs and support in Afghanistan (on US / ISAF bases) and in Western Africa (Liberia/Sierra Leone). More info on the posting URL above. Thanks Jason * * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!
cảm ơn bạn On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: At 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? Vietnam. (The sign is legible enough to recognize the language.) That *does* challenge some of the wireline plant here. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS?
Remember, Ubiquiti said the 900 line would come out last March. Always add 6 months ;) On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: It will in a couple months. On Jan 11, 2011 10:35 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: That product does not exist Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Rocket M 900 GPS? Has anyone done any BETA tests with the 900MHz version of the Rocket GPS? Any real world results you can share? Looking to replace some old Canopy 9000 units and so far this is looking okay. Has anyone tried the external SMA on the Locos? Is this a single SMA or are there 2? Data sheet just lists Connector. If one, would it make sense to pair a yagi to it if need be? So many questions and so many reasons not to go out in the snow.. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report
*The world according to the CWA.* * * *From:* Beth Allen [mailto:bal...@cwa-union.org] *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 10:51 AM *To:* Rick Gunderson *Subject:* Re: Your Speed Test Results Rick, Actually, if you look at today's SpeedTest.net rankings (with the larger server network) the US ranks 31st (http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0). And according to the OECD, which uses advertised speeds, the US ranks 24th (see http://www.oecd.org/document/54/0,3746,en_2649_33703_38690102_1_1_1_1,00.html, table 5a). We welcome the FCCs project to collect data in a more randomized and standardized way through their performance monitoring project with SamKnows (http://www.testmyisp.com/faq.html). We feel that our test and our report over the past few years have helped point out the problems with buildout in the US, particularly the rural-urban digital divide. Beth On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:11 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Am I making too much of this? -- * * *From:* Rick Gunderson [mailto:r...@kywifi.com] *Sent:* Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:06 AM *To:* 'Beth Allen' *Subject:* RE: Your Speed Test Results Believe me, I understand speed tests, and sure, I do speed tests of 30+Mbps all the time. But that’s the point. The speedmaters.org website is proposing that the “The U.S. ranks 25th in the world in average Internet connection speeds.” Is this statement based upon these test servers? Rick Gunderson *KyWiFi* 859-274-4033 *From:* Beth Allen [mailto:bal...@cwa-union.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 5:14 PM *To:* Rick Gunderson *Subject:* Re: Your Speed Test Results Hi Rick. I'm not sure what might be causing the lower reported speed in your case. We regularly have tests that come through as 100Mbps or more (mostly from research institutions). Your distance from the testing server could be a factor. We use the same technology as speedtest.net, but fewer servers due to cost constraints. You might try their site to see if you get a different result. Beth On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rick Gunderson r...@kywifi.com wrote: Beth, I ran my speed test directly from my fiber connection which is set for 40Mbps and the highest speed I can get I 5Mbps. It appears your tests are highly inaccurate. What’s the deal? Rick Gunderson On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Communications Workers of America. I have had no respect for them ever since I worked in a prison, years ago right out of high school, and the prevailing union for the prison guards was……. (Drum Roll….) The CWA! I bet they contracted with non-union workers to do the study. Anyone wanna take that bet? J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 1:43 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report Oh, I get it now, CWA, telco unions, that explains it all - duh! -- *From:* Wood, Ernie [mailto:ew...@connectednation.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 1:13 PM *To:* r...@kywifi.com *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report It is a Communication Workers of America initiative. Ernie Executive Director Strategic Program Office Connected Nation 502-599-1093 www.connectednation.org -- *From*: Rick Gunderson r...@kywifi.com *To*: Wood, Ernie *Sent*: Fri Jan 07 10:06:05 2011 *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report Ernie, Who’s in charge of all this? The reports are flawed. I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their best speed test only gives me 5Mbps! Rick Gunderson *KyWiFi* 859-274-4033 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their speed test gives me a whole 5Mbps! Great test! ;( On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test servers are probably in states like Rhonda Island. Speed to Rhode Island to Rhode Island Rhonda Island to California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We’re 41! We’re 41!!! Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation. I’m so proud…….. http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf http://cwa.3cdn.net/299ed94e144d5adeb1_mlblqoxe9.pdf Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 [image: Logo5] WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] something to watch out for with genset
Those are actually called rain caps for a reason. If you are prone to snow, your better off with a exhaust pipe Thimble system such as this: http://www.kraftpower.com/pdfs/KPC_Info_12_Exhaust_System.pdf On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Since the weather had turned nasty here in Texas, I thought I'd test out the Generator to ensure it would do it's job. It fired up just fine, but one of the exhaust flaps that keep water out of the exhaust had frozen shut with a large clump of ice on top to boot (counter weight). This would have eventually fouled the plugs on one side had I not checked. Running for 5 minutes did not clear it. Yet something else for us to look for. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Too late for Friday but too funny not to share
OK, had to share. A customer of mine from Britain sent me this Ronnie Corbett show on BBC. The first segment is a riot keeping in mind the brits have their own style of funny ;) Link: http://rcpt.yousendit.com/1018547473/ad915510b589202a4dc0e8eba42c55cb -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report
So, I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their speed test gives me a whole 5Mbps! Great test! ;( On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Speed test servers are probably in states like Rhonda Island. Speed to Rhode Island to Rhode Island Rhonda Island to California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: We’re 41! We’re 41!!! Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation. I’m so proud…….. http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf http://cwa.3cdn.net/299ed94e144d5adeb1_mlblqoxe9.pdf Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 [image: Logo5] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report
Oh, I get it now, CWA, telco unions, that explains it all - duh! -- *From:* Wood, Ernie [mailto:ew...@connectednation.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 1:13 PM *To:* r...@kywifi.com *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report It is a Communication Workers of America initiative. Ernie Executive Director Strategic Program Office Connected Nation 502-599-1093 www.connectednation.org -- *From*: Rick Gunderson r...@kywifi.com *To*: Wood, Ernie *Sent*: Fri Jan 07 10:06:05 2011 *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report Ernie, Who’s in charge of all this? The reports are flawed. I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their best speed test only gives me 5Mbps! Rick Gunderson *KyWiFi* 859-274-4033 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their speed test gives me a whole 5Mbps! Great test! ;( On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Speed test servers are probably in states like Rhonda Island. Speed to Rhode Island to Rhode Island Rhonda Island to California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: We’re 41! We’re 41!!! Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation. I’m so proud…….. http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf http://cwa.3cdn.net/299ed94e144d5adeb1_mlblqoxe9.pdf Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 [image: Logo5] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- -RickG image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report
Beth, Am I making too much of this? -- * * *From:* Rick Gunderson [mailto:r...@kywifi.com] *Sent:* Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:06 AM *To:* 'Beth Allen' *Subject:* RE: Your Speed Test Results Believe me, I understand speed tests, and sure, I do speed tests of 30+Mbps all the time. But that’s the point. The speedmaters.org website is proposing that the “The U.S. ranks 25th in the world in average Internet connection speeds.” Is this statement based upon these test servers? Rick Gunderson *KyWiFi* 859-274-4033 *From:* Beth Allen [mailto:bal...@cwa-union.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 5:14 PM *To:* Rick Gunderson *Subject:* Re: Your Speed Test Results Hi Rick. I'm not sure what might be causing the lower reported speed in your case. We regularly have tests that come through as 100Mbps or more (mostly from research institutions). Your distance from the testing server could be a factor. We use the same technology as speedtest.net, but fewer servers due to cost constraints. You might try their site to see if you get a different result. Beth On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rick Gunderson r...@kywifi.com wrote: Beth, I ran my speed test directly from my fiber connection which is set for 40Mbps and the highest speed I can get I 5Mbps. It appears your tests are highly inaccurate. What’s the deal? Rick Gunderson On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Communications Workers of America. I have had no respect for them ever since I worked in a prison, years ago right out of high school, and the prevailing union for the prison guards was……. (Drum Roll….) The CWA! I bet they contracted with non-union workers to do the study. Anyone wanna take that bet? J *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 1:43 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report Oh, I get it now, CWA, telco unions, that explains it all - duh! -- *From:* Wood, Ernie [mailto:ew...@connectednation.org] *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2011 1:13 PM *To:* r...@kywifi.com *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report It is a Communication Workers of America initiative. Ernie Executive Director Strategic Program Office Connected Nation 502-599-1093 www.connectednation.org -- *From*: Rick Gunderson r...@kywifi.com *To*: Wood, Ernie *Sent*: Fri Jan 07 10:06:05 2011 *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] CWA Broadband Report Ernie, Who’s in charge of all this? The reports are flawed. I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their best speed test only gives me 5Mbps! Rick Gunderson *KyWiFi* 859-274-4033 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: So, I'm sitting on a fiber connection with up to 40Mbps with about 3Mbps currently being utilized and their speed test gives me a whole 5Mbps! Great test! ;( On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test servers are probably in states like Rhonda Island. Speed to Rhode Island to Rhode Island Rhonda Island to California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: We’re 41! We’re 41!!! Just got this from our pals at Connected Nation. I’m so proud…….. http://cwa.3cdn.net/25239e0340bb2a2021_v9m6bzg1t.pdf http://cwa.3cdn.net/299ed94e144d5adeb1_mlblqoxe9.pdf Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 [image: Logo5] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
If they're like the rest of ARC's equipment they should be excellent. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
Not cheap but cool: http://www.islandtimepc.com/marinepc.html On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
Do they run on direct 12 volts? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Just buy a refurbished 10 eeePC, and get a mount. It's hardened, no hard drive, cheap, and ready to go. I like the linux version. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Tuesday, January 04, 2011 5:52 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer Not cheap but cool: http://www.islandtimepc.com/marinepc.html On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
