Re: [WISPA] grant funds ideas
We all have a substancial amount of capital invested in our own ventures... If the Government would like to reimburse us on our investments before they make the Internet a invaluable investment. I wouldn't have much issue with that. However, from what I see they are just trying to make the Internet a free public right. And for what reason? If someone wants something, free enterprise usually puts it in place with a price. The price is to make sure it benefits the entrepreneur and the customer. Free benefits only the customer. Doesn't build revenue that pays for taxes, employees, sparsk anyones economy Get me drift So, in short what would I like to see., I would like to see grant money go to those that have already embarked on the challenge of populating the rural markets with quality Internet service with Qaulity Customer service behind it. I have yet to receive any communication or dollars from my government, other than to spend more money on their so called public safety initiatives, like calea... ...enough, that should get the sounding board moving...just incase anyone needs to know who posted such a Capitalistic Republican view. Ross Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. Effingham Illinois. 217 342 6201 ex 100 _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: legislat...@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:05 AM Subject: [WISPA] grant funds ideas Hi All, I've asked before but saw no discussion so here it is again If WISPA gets a chance to give input to the grant process, what should we tell the government? I can't believe that NO ONE here has any input on this at all. Did my last post fail to make it through? Or should we not give any input into the process if given the chance? We'll just let the telco's get all of it then? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Email
Anyone charging for email sevices? We are spending lots on email servers and Postini Services... Anyone out there charging for email and if so how is it going? Thanks Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email
Martha, It sounds very similar to how we do it also. However, the mounting expenses of Anti Spam services, mail sever software costs, etc... Have begun to strike up this conversation. Email is one of the most expensive service that we offer and receive zero revenue for. Thanks for the feedback. Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Martha Huizenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Email We charge $5 a month if you have an email only account. Otherwise email is included in our web hosting and Internet services. People who already have our email service and either take down their web site or no longer have our Internet seem to want to keep their address and are willing to pay $60 a year for it. We don't sell email only otherwise. Martha Ross Cornett wrote: Anyone charging for email sevices? We are spending lots on email servers and Postini Services... Anyone out there charging for email and if so how is it going? Thanks Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sector Placement
Anyone know for a fact if it is worthy to seperate sector antennas on the same tower. Using 2.4 H Pol 16 db We are readying our 31st tower location and I have been asked why do we seperate the sectors . Besides the reasonable fact that if you place 3 sectors on a 3 sided tower at the exact same height, you will never be able to climb over them or at least with great difficulty. I would like to know first hand examples of anyone having issues or had to move them apart to resolve any issues. I don't like doing things twice... you advise is greatly appreciated... Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sector Placement
How long have you done this and have you had any issues with anything at all... All Documentation tells us to seperate them 10 or so due to the front to back ratio? Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sector Placement are they the tranzeo sectors? I have the same setup, 16db HPOL and i have them all at the same level on the tip of a Rohn SSV self supporter. Since they stand off a little from the tower i can climb through them as long as I am careful where i step. -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Sector Placement Date: 04/23/08 11:39 Anyone know for a fact if it is worthy to seperate sector antennas on the same tower. Using 2.4 H Pol 16 db We are readying our 31st tower location and I have been asked why do we seperate the sectors . Besides the reasonable fact that if you place 3 sectors on a 3 sided tower at the exact same height, you will never be able to climb over them or at least with great difficulty. I would like to know first hand examples of anyone having issues or had to move them apart to resolve any issues. I don't like doing things twice... you advise is greatly appreciated... Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: quot;Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.quot; _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP
Anyone know of anything that can help me here? Frontier communciations is allowing us to port numbers out of their territory, but they are blocking callers from their areas from calling those numbers Is this legal? Does anyone have any ideas that can help me... We are working with Heartland Communciations in Paducah Kentucky. We get our bandwidth from them. They also do our VOIP. When we switched from our Illinois Consolidated telephone system a centrex system. We moved to our inhouse VOIP provided by Heartland Communications in Paducah Kentucky. Frontier Communications started blocking their callers from calling our office and any dialup numbers we ported also... By the way Illinois Consolidated, an independant in Central Illinois has been really nice working with us on this I can't say enough about their assistance... My dialups are going fast If I can't get a solutionlet alone my office will never be able to use the VOIP that I have fibered to my office Ross E. Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ ___ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP
We found that ICTC (Illinois Consolidated Telephone Company) and Frontier use the same tandem in Mattoon illinois... Frontier will pass calls from Frontier to ICTC... However, when we port a number from ICTC, they will not hand the call over to heartland communications, which is our new VOIP provider... I called the ICC(Illinois Commerce Commission) they told me I had to call the FCC they told me until I contacted a lawyer and they would not talk to me... I can't believe the red tape... In the meantime, I have customers in Frontier Communications, that are losing service due to this mishap... _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Eric Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP Have your CLEC call them and make sure it is not just a routing issue or problem in their phone switch. We've run into this quite a bit with rural telco's in our area. If they are truly blocking calls to your numbers, complain to your state's public utility comission ASAP! -Eric On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of anything that can help me here? Frontier communciations is allowing us to port numbers out of their territory, but they are blocking callers from their areas from calling those numbers Is this legal? Does anyone have any ideas that can help me... We are working with Heartland Communciations in Paducah Kentucky. We get our bandwidth from them. They also do our VOIP. When we switched from our Illinois Consolidated telephone system a centrex system. We moved to our inhouse VOIP provided by Heartland Communications in Paducah Kentucky. Frontier Communications started blocking their callers from calling our office and any dialup numbers we ported also... By the way Illinois Consolidated, an independant in Central Illinois has been really nice working with us on this I can't say enough about their assistance... My dialups are going fast If I can't get a solutionlet alone my office will never be able to use the VOIP that I have fibered to my office Ross E. Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ ___ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP
Out of respect for them and due to our contract we are currently engauged with, we cannot divuldge that information. I will say that they have really been wonderful for our business. I cannot say enough good about them. Yes we are able to do VOIP. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP You actually got VoIP out of Heartland? I tried literally dozens of times to get something from them. What do you pay? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP Anyone know of anything that can help me here? Frontier communciations is allowing us to port numbers out of their territory, but they are blocking callers from their areas from calling those numbers Is this legal? Does anyone have any ideas that can help me... We are working with Heartland Communciations in Paducah Kentucky. We get our bandwidth from them. They also do our VOIP. When we switched from our Illinois Consolidated telephone system a centrex system. We moved to our inhouse VOIP provided by Heartland Communications in Paducah Kentucky. Frontier Communications started blocking their callers from calling our office and any dialup numbers we ported also... By the way Illinois Consolidated, an independant in Central Illinois has been really nice working with us on this I can't say enough about their assistance... My dialups are going fast If I can't get a solutionlet alone my office will never be able to use the VOIP that I have fibered to my office Ross E. Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ ___ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Open Range
Please include me in this too... Ross _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Range Bob, Can you please share more info either on-list or off-list please? -Eric M. bcochran wrote: Chris, Yes I know all about this organization. Bob WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP
Glad to know... thanks _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP Darn... I know they once told me $30 and I told them to fly a kite. I get service from someone else in rural Illinois for $8 all inclusive, $3 in the suburbs all inclusive, $1 for a bare number in the rural areas, and pennies in the suburbs for a bare number. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP Out of respect for them and due to our contract we are currently engauged with, we cannot divuldge that information. I will say that they have really been wonderful for our business. I cannot say enough good about them. Yes we are able to do VOIP. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP You actually got VoIP out of Heartland? I tried literally dozens of times to get something from them. What do you pay? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Frontier communications is blocking access to our VOIP Anyone know of anything that can help me here? Frontier communciations is allowing us to port numbers out of their territory, but they are blocking callers from their areas from calling those numbers Is this legal? Does anyone have any ideas that can help me... We are working with Heartland Communciations in Paducah Kentucky. We get our bandwidth from them. They also do our VOIP. When we switched from our Illinois Consolidated telephone system a centrex system. We moved to our inhouse VOIP provided by Heartland Communications in Paducah Kentucky. Frontier Communications started blocking their callers from calling our office and any dialup numbers we ported also... By the way Illinois Consolidated, an independant in Central Illinois has been really nice working with us on this I can't say enough about their assistance... My dialups are going fast If I can't get a solutionlet alone my office will never be able to use the VOIP that I have fibered to my office Ross E. Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. _ Galatians 6:7-8: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. _ ___ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] Web redirect @ hotel.
There is a box out there from dlink that does all this an more...We used at a hotel - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web redirect @ hotel. Mark McElvy wrote: I had a hotel customer call me and the corporate office is requiring that after a customer connects to Internet, wired or wireless, they get redirected to a terms and conditions agreement page the to a corporate portal page. Currently the have wired access only and are not using hotspot or logon of any kind. Also the are running Mikrotik on a RB532 as the router. A bit of cleverness with the Mikrotik hotspot package should get you what you're looking for. Make sure everyone on that network has to go through the Mikrotik system (make it the network-wide DHCP server, for instance), so it can keep track of things. If you're adding wireless APs at the same time, you can either have them act as DHCP relays, or just make them transparent bridges so guests are still talking to that central router on the IP level. The latter is probably simpler, and in a small-scale setup like this the bridging shouldn't cause any problems. Users who aren't logged in can be forced to a certain page (the login page in Mikrotik parlance), which can display the TC. After they log in (make it a simple 'I Agree' button, and internally use MAC authentication), just redirect them to the company portal page. They'll be logged in at that point and can browse freely. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Billing suggestings
Hey guys, I am in a pickle here with my client tracking database. We had a propriatary softward made for us and it is not a great scenario for us. This software stored data in an access database and primarily was client contact, reminding renewals for mailing bills...etc... What are you all using that might be a good transition for me... Thanks in advance... Ross Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? I too would say the same. Initially they did a good job, but soon after they began to be in effective and variable. We contacted them and got very little satisfaction. so, we are now trying mikrotiks at every tower. like a 333... details will follow with our success or failure. We have implemented them at 4 or 5 towers and will be puting them at 30 towers... Ross - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? We purchased a NetEqualizer last year, and we weren't impressed. It did not perform well compared to the Emerging Technologies box we use. The rate limits were not effectively enforced. -Jake Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:16:46 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? I have been considering the Net Equalizer as a possible platform for bandwidth management. I know that topics like this often lead to a myriad of posts about bandwidth management normally. If possible I would like to hear feedback from people who have actually used this one appliance to hear about any advantages or disadvantages to use of this device for managing bandwidth in WISP networks. I appreciate hearing from any past or present users of the Net Equalizer platform. All the best, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Billing suggestings
ouch!!! ...and we are still getting less than a dinner for 2 a month for unlimited internet... this is sick gentlemen. When will we see the light? Ross - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing suggestings Look at www.powercode.com. It's pricy for WISPs, but you have to look at where you are in your business and where you're going. We bought in at the 750-customer level, and it was $5800. The bandwidth manager is an ImageStream router with their software loaded on it (they're partnering). There is a charge per month for software maintenance (I think we're paying like $150 per month) and if you want tech support there's a per-incident charge or a monthly support package for another $150. This software, along with the BMU, should allow us to manage remote pops as well (disconnected from our main network). Even in other towns, or smaller WISPs that we purchase or partner with. With this, we should be able to provide great back-end sales, billing, and support while the local tech or partner works on the network. I partnered with a competitor to leverage our assets to move quicker with growth. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing suggestings what is the cost like on that? Mark Nash wrote: We have just signed on with PowerCode. We like the interface, and it is much more than billing. It's got a bandwidth manager, auto-account shut-off for nonpayment, CRM, lead-tracking, commission-tracking. So far so good, we billed with it this month and that's all we've done. I know that there are other WISPs that have used them in the past, and I received varying degrees of opinions when I asked about them previously. I'll let you know how it goes. They are a WISPA vendor member now, as I understand it. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:24 AM Subject: [WISPA] Billing suggestings Hey guys, I am in a pickle here with my client tracking database. We had a propriatary softward made for us and it is not a great scenario for us. This software stored data in an access database and primarily was client contact, reminding renewals for mailing bills...etc... What are you all using that might be a good transition for me... Thanks in advance... Ross Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? I too would say the same. Initially they did a good job, but soon after they began to be in effective and variable. We contacted them and got very little satisfaction. so, we are now trying mikrotiks at every tower. like a 333... details will follow with our success or failure. We have implemented them at 4 or 5 towers and will be puting them at 30 towers... Ross - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? We purchased a NetEqualizer last year, and we weren't impressed. It did not perform well compared to the Emerging Technologies box we use. The rate limits were not effectively enforced. -Jake Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:16:46 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? I have been considering the Net Equalizer as a possible platform for bandwidth management. I know that topics like this often lead to a myriad of posts about bandwidth management normally. If possible I would like to hear feedback from people who have actually used this one appliance to hear about any advantages or disadvantages to use of this device for managing bandwidth in WISP networks. I appreciate hearing from any past or present users of the Net Equalizer platform. All the best, John Scrivner -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista
Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone?
I too would say the same. Initially they did a good job, but soon after they began to be in effective and variable. We contacted them and got very little satisfaction. so, we are now trying mikrotiks at every tower. like a 333... details will follow with our success or failure. We have implemented them at 4 or 5 towers and will be puting them at 30 towers... Ross - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? We purchased a NetEqualizer last year, and we weren't impressed. It did not perform well compared to the Emerging Technologies box we use. The rate limits were not effectively enforced. -Jake Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:16:46 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Net Equalizer Anyone? I have been considering the Net Equalizer as a possible platform for bandwidth management. I know that topics like this often lead to a myriad of posts about bandwidth management normally. If possible I would like to hear feedback from people who have actually used this one appliance to hear about any advantages or disadvantages to use of this device for managing bandwidth in WISP networks. I appreciate hearing from any past or present users of the Net Equalizer platform. All the best, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Towers on grain legs
I use them a lot. You can email me offline at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ross Cornett HofNet Communications, Inc. 217 342 6201 - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:19 AM Subject: [WISPA] Towers on grain legs It was brought to my attention yesterday that some WISPs put tower sections on grain legs. How many of you have done this? Could you describe the particulars of those installations? Pictures? Did you have an engineer approve your designs? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish
Hey John, We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net... That is our in the door options. Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it. WE also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants it through AERO communications. FYI. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated. All the best, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish
It is just nice to have them both, becuase some customers like each. Both pay well and solid service little support needs... Ross - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish So what's the difference between direct and dish? Can you share what the fee structures are? c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Cornett Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish Hey John, We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net... That is our in the door options. Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it. WE also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants it through AERO communications. FYI. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated. All the best, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish
We deal directly though Heartland Internet out of Paducah KY. They have been real pleasure to work with. I am sorry to hear you misfortune with them. I will have my rep get intouch with you. Ross - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish Good luck with Aero\Heartland... I've been dealing with those guys on and off for years. I say, Give me a price. They never call back. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish Hey John, We are selling direct, dish, wild blue and hughes net... That is our in the door options. Now we can sell Internet and TV to anyone that wants it. WE also will be offering our own VOIP to anyone on our network that wants it through AERO communications. FYI. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated. All the best, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source
We use a 30 X 24 12 we have them made and they are awesome... If you want info seek me offline. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ross - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cabinet or Enclosure source Do what Marlon does if you can. Use a refrigerator! Insulated from cold and warm! ryan On Aug 1, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Jason wrote: Anyone know where I can get an outdoor enclosure, preferably metal, approx 2' x 2' x 4'. Surplus, used, etc; near Arizona? Jason -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
you are right. I will have to come there, cus this poor state is trying to outlaw the ar 15 and others... Now that you mention it, i know a friend that has an AR 15... that sounds really cooll.The smiley face would look pretty cool with that... thanks Marlon - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross, you need to come up here and use my AR-15 to do the shooting Much more fun to blow 30 small holes though the POS in a few seconds than a few big ones in a couple of minutes! big grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email I appreciate it, but the financial side of it has my attention. .It is truly a depreciable asset as long As I own it. I would lose that if I sold it. So, i will still shoot it... and place it in a trophy case and thenpost the video for you all to see. I will call it barracuda hunting... lol - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote: NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line? I may have a use for it, too (assuming the price is not too much). Okay, sixty dollars, but that's my final offer. :) My point really was that, since the Barracuda is just PC hardware, it's not a total loss (and probably not worth shooting). Even if you don't want to filter email with it, it still has some value. (From what I know of how they're built, I'd guess a recent Barracuda 400, which retails for about $4000, is probably worth $1000 or so from the hardware included. Paradoxically, the older ones are probably worth a bit more, as they had a hardware RAID controller instead of using Linux software RAID.) If you really were gonna shoot it (and that wasn't just a gesture of frustration), seriously, between Butch Evans and I, we'll find a good home for it (that has nothing to do with email). David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Marlon, It is doubtfull I will be able to top that, but I will have to try. that was great... - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email We want pictures! Seen this yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnxKJqmtITE Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email you are right. I will have to come there, cus this poor state is trying to outlaw the ar 15 and others... Now that you mention it, i know a friend that has an AR 15... that sounds really cooll.The smiley face would look pretty cool with that... thanks Marlon - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross, you need to come up here and use my AR-15 to do the shooting Much more fun to blow 30 small holes though the POS in a few seconds than a few big ones in a couple of minutes! big grin Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email I appreciate it, but the financial side of it has my attention. .It is truly a depreciable asset as long As I own it. I would lose that if I sold it. So, i will still shoot it... and place it in a trophy case and thenpost the video for you all to see. I will call it barracuda hunting... lol - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote: NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line? I may have a use for it, too (assuming the price is not too much). Okay, sixty dollars, but that's my final offer. :) My point really was that, since the Barracuda is just PC hardware, it's not a total loss (and probably not worth shooting). Even if you don't want to filter email with it, it still has some value. (From what I know of how they're built, I'd guess a recent Barracuda 400, which retails for about $4000, is probably worth $1000 or so from the hardware included. Paradoxically, the older ones are probably worth a bit more, as they had a hardware RAID controller instead of using Linux software RAID.) If you really were gonna shoot it (and that wasn't just a gesture of frustration), seriously, between Butch Evans and I, we'll find a good home for it (that has nothing to do with email). David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. Had to go back to postini. So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal - Original Message - From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Be offended about what? How much someone is charging for Anti SPAM service using a Barracuda? The Barracuda's are fixed cost based on the device type, so the prices should be competitive. Barracuda Networks used to do 100 mailboxes for $100 per month, I think. John JohnnyO wrote: www.datapipe.com - you'll pay about $79.99/mo for unlimited domains and email addresses. I will more then likely offend a few people here but I've asked several people here that have their own Barracuda's for quotes and noone can seem to touch the price I have been paying for 7+ yrs. I suppose their costs are much higher and are trying to recoup it on a low volume as opposed to the larger mail / hosting outfits. Datapipe uses the Iron Port appliance and they also ANSWER their phone 24/7/365... You get a live person, not some automated system and I actually called them this past year on Christmas with an issue I had with a domain. Hit me up off-list if you want more information or input concerning this. Regards, JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Currently we do in-house email. We always have one problem or another with our old IMail server ,plus dealing with a spam server and antivirus... We have about 15 domains we currently host, about 150 users. Is it cost effective to outsource something this small? Also on a similar note, does anyone know of a free Exchange host out there that will download pop3 mail and Direct Push to my mobile phone? Thanks -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
will do, no problems here... Ross - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email I think what Dave was trying to make a point about was that folks at Barracuda acted as if selling used hardware to others may not allow the new owner to purchase updates, maintenance, etc. Dave talked to them, I did not. The impression was that they would not support second-hand hardware. It might be a good idea for you, Ross, to make a call to Barracuda and see what the terms would be for update support for a new owner of this unit before you sell it. At least then you would be able to tell a new potential owner what to expect as far as costs to continue support for the unit. The Barracuda units do work but if you do not buy support agreements for updates and such then it is useless. The unit can be good as new and not worth a nickel if the manufacturer will not support it with new spam and virus signature updates. There is no way you would know any of this, Ross. We have had a bad experience with Barracuda regarding used hardware. That was all that was being cautioned here. If you find out what the terms are for transferring used hardware to new owners I would like to know what you find. Scriv Ross Cornett wrote: understand... THis is in great shape. WE used it for 2 months... couldn't stand the cryout from the customers that were so used to Postini. thanks. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. Had to go back to postini. So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate it or provide me service, as it was second-hand. There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but I got the impression that they don't like dealing with used units, period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may want to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track update subscriptions and whatnot.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Well, my first contact to Barracuda was exactly that. I am diggin in deeper to better understand their policy. But, they did tell me they will not support a device that they did not sell directly. Wow, that is hidden deep into their users agreement. Since you have to agree to it to use it, you are bound by it... I will update the list if I find any better answer. Ross - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email I think what Dave was trying to make a point about was that folks at Barracuda acted as if selling used hardware to others may not allow the new owner to purchase updates, maintenance, etc. Dave talked to them, I did not. The impression was that they would not support second-hand hardware. It might be a good idea for you, Ross, to make a call to Barracuda and see what the terms would be for update support for a new owner of this unit before you sell it. At least then you would be able to tell a new potential owner what to expect as far as costs to continue support for the unit. The Barracuda units do work but if you do not buy support agreements for updates and such then it is useless. The unit can be good as new and not worth a nickel if the manufacturer will not support it with new spam and virus signature updates. There is no way you would know any of this, Ross. We have had a bad experience with Barracuda regarding used hardware. That was all that was being cautioned here. If you find out what the terms are for transferring used hardware to new owners I would like to know what you find. Scriv Ross Cornett wrote: understand... THis is in great shape. WE used it for 2 months... couldn't stand the cryout from the customers that were so used to Postini. thanks. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. Had to go back to postini. So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate it or provide me service, as it was second-hand. There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but I got the impression that they don't like dealing with used units, period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may want to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track update subscriptions and whatnot.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
Ok. It is final. You cannot resell your Barracuda box to anyone and expect Barracuda to license it. I just spoke with a VP of sales and he said just that. I told him that they should tell people this when they buy them and he told me they try to tell everyone. I will tell you this I wasn't told. $2500 later it isn't worth a dime. I did ask why they cannot refurb the machine for a fee and then allow it to be resold. They told me it wasn't policy to do this. I look at it as this is how they are protecting their margins on new sales. No buy back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. Oh, he did mention that it is still a functioning server if I wanted to use as such. Anyway, end of thread for me. I just want you all to know this if you consider purchasing one. Stay with it for 3 years or you lost your investment. Thanks for the headsup on this guys. Now we know. I hope I stuck to the facts with no rumor or bad info. Ross - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Like Microsoft? If you read user agreements, you will find that many software vendors do not allow license transfer. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Mike Hammett wrote: I'd refuse to do business with a company like that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. Had to go back to postini. So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate it or provide me service, as it was second-hand. There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but I got the impression that they don't like dealing with used units, period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may want to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track update subscriptions and whatnot.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
their 2 concerns I noted are their margins and their liability of customer data being passed onto the buyer and puting a companies data at risk and be sued.. They fear being sued because of the data that this box captures, they made the box, so they are liable for it. Kind of like a gun manufacturer, match manufacturers, knife manufacturers...and so on...get their paranoid view yet, when it can all be managed by wipeing or replaceing a hard drive... oh well... They will not budge on this. I told them I would inform the industry and it will impact their future sales I am certain. Ross - Original Message - From: Brandon Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email You may consider leasing the server? Perhaps you can deal with support and licensing and lease it to a third party. Maybe get some roi anyway. Brandon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Cornett Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ok. It is final. You cannot resell your Barracuda box to anyone and expect Barracuda to license it. I just spoke with a VP of sales and he said just that. I told him that they should tell people this when they buy them and he told me they try to tell everyone. I will tell you this I wasn't told. $2500 later it isn't worth a dime. I did ask why they cannot refurb the machine for a fee and then allow it to be resold. They told me it wasn't policy to do this. I look at it as this is how they are protecting their margins on new sales. No buy back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. Oh, he did mention that it is still a functioning server if I wanted to use as such. Anyway, end of thread for me. I just want you all to know this if you consider purchasing one. Stay with it for 3 years or you lost your investment. Thanks for the headsup on this guys. Now we know. I hope I stuck to the facts with no rumor or bad info. Ross - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Like Microsoft? If you read user agreements, you will find that many software vendors do not allow license transfer. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Mike Hammett wrote: I'd refuse to do business with a company like that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: I have a barracuda for sale if anyone is interrested off list. Switched from Postini to Barracuda and it was like I turned off their oxigen. Had to go back to postini. So, if you are interrested email me off list. I will make you a deal Fair warning for anyone who's interested in this: Check with Barracuda first, to be sure you can actually do this. A few months back, I picked up a used Barracuda Spam Firewall on eBay, and they wouldn't activate it or provide me service, as it was second-hand. There were other odd circumstances involving this particular unit, but I got the impression that they don't like dealing with used units, period. Call Barracuda, make sure this won't be a problem. (You may want to get the serial number of the unit first, as that's how they track update subscriptions and whatnot.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... Ross - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: No buy back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. Dude, I'll totally give you fifty bucks for it. (I'm serious.) If you're not interested in using it as a Barracuda, hey, it's still a decent 1U rackmount PC. Pop it open, connect a CD or DVD drive, install your favorite Linux or BSD, call it a server. David Smith MVNnet -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
straight from Barracuda - Original Message - From: W.D.McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross, Who did you buy that unit from? If you boaught it from a reseller, please contact them if you haven't yet. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:23:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... Ross - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email Ross Cornett wrote: No buy back no resale, no good, but I will have fun when I take my .270 and try to paint a smiley face on it from 200 yards away. Dude, I'll totally give you fifty bucks for it. (I'm serious.) If you're not interested in using it as a Barracuda, hey, it's still a decent 1U rackmount PC. Pop it open, connect a CD or DVD drive, install your favorite Linux or BSD, call it a server. David Smith MVNnet -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email
I have it on a 3 year amort so I would have to have at least $500 for it I can still shoot it and keep it on my shelf as an asset...If I sell it I loose the depreciation from the books...LOL - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced vs in-house email On Wed, 16 May 2007, Ross Cornett wrote: NOpe... worth more to me to shoot it... Not wanting to start a bidding war, but where do you draw that line? I may have a use for it, too (assuming the price is not too much). -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
We use a DLINK hotspot router that emails me every connect and disconnect from our hotels. The FBI could take that log and compare it to room number and date of stay and they can find their man that way... FYI - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question There will likely be cases where that's impossible. Lets say that I have a customer that's a hotel. They, at first, only know the ip addy or mac addy. A subpoena comes to me looking for info on the user in question. There's no way to use the hotel's Linksys hardware to do the tap to find the specific think that LEA is looking for. Can't change the network because any action on our side tips off the suspect. In some cases it won't be possible to filter out all info. Especially if we don't know what we're looking for (which we won't and shouldn't) as far as specific data goes. I talked to the head of the FBI's CALEA group for about an hour again yesterday. They know full well that there are just some things that can't be done. At the end of the day, the just need our help when and where we can give it to them. There are far too many possibilities to deal with every single possible situation, we know that, they know that. As long as we make a real effort to help I don't think we have to worry about getting in trouble. It's those that thumb their noses that will run enforcement risks. I was told that there has NEVER been an enforcement issue occur. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question Marlon, I was under the impression the providers are only supposed to send the LEA the data covered in the subpoena and no more. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Read the FAQ. In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to get at what they want. marlon - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of NAT. The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to identify the end user, and the WISP would become the customer and be liable. To many degrees of seperation at the upstream for the captured data to be meaningful. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question The FCC wrote: we conclude that establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments are not considered facilities-based broadband Internet access service providers Hm. It'd be one heckuva stretch, but by reading the letter (as opposed to the spirit) of that paragraph, many smaller WISPs would automatically be exempt. I know my office has acquired broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider (our upstream ISP) and we're enabling our customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments (i.e. our customers pay for Internet at their homes or offices). By the letter of that paragraph (and, to be fair, I haven't read all the context surrounding it) most any single-homed WISP would be exempt, as they could just say go talk to our upstream. (I doubt it'd work for multi-homed ISPs, as that would require multiple upstreams to be tapped and somehow synchronized, which is probably technically annoying.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk upon themselves by not becoming compliant. It appears that it is time to start charging a homeland security fee. Since we cannot authorize taxes, we can charge fees that will allow us to mange these cost. By my figures, I will have to charge at least $1.53 per month per customer. Since this doens't include dialup customers, my broadband customers will have to incurr this burden alone. What are you thougths on this. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question Peter R. wrote: Why not check with a knowledgeable legal professional instead of guessing? That'd be my boss's department. :D I'm just a pundit - full of opinions and hot air. Now you can choose to ignore it, and say a prayer daily that Barney Fife or any other LEA officer does not knock on your door I'd encourage Barney Fife to knock on my door, I wouldn't mind having his autograph. Remember him from Three's Company? Edit: Apparently Don Knotts died last year. Now I'm sad. :( David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Motorola Powerline
I used the netgear version of this. It seems to work well. The advantage that I saw in teh motorola was that it has a device that connects all 3 phase of electricity to the same network. The Linksys could not do that. FYI - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] Motorola Powerline Hi, Has anyone used the Motorola Powerline products? How did it work for you? Thoughts? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
Sounds good thanks Sriv. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question I think you better just take a rate increase and chalk it up to increased expenses all the way around as opposed to creating a CALEA charge line item. Adding a fee as a line item could get you in trouble with the FTC if not approved as a legitimate added government fee (just my opinion, nothing to base this on other than my gut). Your fuel and electricity have jumped considerably I am sure. I am considering a rate increase over these added costs also. I see no way around it. I have never raised my rates in 10 years. Times are changing I am afraid. Scriv Ross Cornett wrote: I give up I just signed a contract to ensure my protection under CALEA. My hope is tht those that become compliant do not get underminded by those that have hidden in the bushes and took the risk upon themselves by not becoming compliant. It appears that it is time to start charging a homeland security fee. Since we cannot authorize taxes, we can charge fees that will allow us to mange these cost. By my figures, I will have to charge at least $1.53 per month per customer. Since this doens't include dialup customers, my broadband customers will have to incurr this burden alone. What are you thougths on this. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question Peter R. wrote: Why not check with a knowledgeable legal professional instead of guessing? That'd be my boss's department. :D I'm just a pundit - full of opinions and hot air. Now you can choose to ignore it, and say a prayer daily that Barney Fife or any other LEA officer does not knock on your door I'd encourage Barney Fife to knock on my door, I wouldn't mind having his autograph. Remember him from Three's Company? Edit: Apparently Don Knotts died last year. Now I'm sad. :( David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance
I appreciated Tim's remarks, but this sounded very much like a response from someone that is getting fed by the process of CALEA. If I am wrong I duly appologize. if I am correct then I have said enough. I agree with you Sam. It boils down to Uncle Sam is pushing an INTERNET SECURITY TAX on the everyone in the industry and only funding the TELCO's Side of it and we have no say so in the matter. They have plenty of resources and just determined that we can take it or shut down. This too is another way that the multi funded telcos will continue to be fed by the feds and we will have to pickup the scraps that the telco's don't have time or the interest to reach. Now doing that will just be a tougher battle. It must be nice getting a subcity... only a telcos know how to spell that the rest of us have never had money give to us we have to earn it. lol Ross - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance Tim Kery wrote: Hi Ross, SNIP You also have to remember that Law Enforcement's primary focus is Law Enforcement and not developing technology. The FBI/DEA/DOJ said as much when in 2004 they petitioned the FCC to expand CALEA to broadband and VoIP. Essentially, they argued that it isn't possible for them to keep up with the pace of technology. (By the way, this isn't an ability issue, the FBI and Secret Service, ect. have exceptionally talented teams. Instead it really is a resource issue; the number of staff they have to cover these issues can't cover the scale of the problem.) So I, as a small provider, am suppose to have more and better resources than the federal government and their various agencies? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance
I still would like to know the amount of incident that this CALEA will cause for all of its costs to our industry. Did anyone ask the FBI, why they cannot have several machines and deliver them as needed pre-configured then we can install them when they are needed. It is highly unreasonable for the FBI to ask everyone to have a utility and manage this utility when it will never be used by a very large portion of our industry. It is far cheaper for the government to sameday ship their device to us anywhere in the nation then it is to have everyone else trying to scramble to satisfy a need that will largely be an expensive dust collector in most businesses. Anyone know if this has been posed to the FBI. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance John Scrivner wrote: We look forward to proving that this thinking is wrong. What part of CALEA compliance is it that makes you think we cannot develop a low cost and reasonable solution which will not break the bank? Even if you do come up with a way to handle LI in time for the deadline that is only going to solve one part of CALEA. We checked with Cisco in the beginning regarding CALEA. We were assured they were working on it and would have a solution in time (much the same way WISPA has). We now have Cisco's solution and understand it does exactly what they say it would do; namely LI. Unfortunately, LI isn't enough as I have outlined in other posts. We have had to develop the rest of the solution on our own. Reread my post on the practical requirements of dealing with ELSUR and check with your attorneys. I think you'll find no technical solution to those requirements. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mt. Vernon. Net Celebrates 10 Years in Business
Outstanding John. Congrats... Wheres the party... You don't live that far from Effingham. Ross - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Mt. Vernon. Net Celebrates 10 Years in Business Today my company turns 10 years old. Building this company has been one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. I feel very blessed to be part of all this. Many of you have played a large role in my success and I thank all of you. I have always considered my success in this business to be attributed mostly to my belief that God answers prayer. Thank you God! I hope all of you get to reach those landmarks in your company that make you take pause and reflect. I hope when you do you get to have as positive a feeling about it all as I do. We have a whale of a day planned. The girls made up balloons and various decorations. We have hotdogs, brats and bbq to feed an army. We will have two washer pits setup. I plan to play some rock and roll with friends later in the afternoon. For those of you who do not know it I play the drums. Thanks again to all you guys and gals. I am off to have some fun today! Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance
If we can come up with a device to capture and send to an FTP server and allow for VPN connectivity then why can the most powerful law agency in the world not do the same. This way they controll it all. We just provide the pipe to get the data back to their preferred location. I do not know much about CALEA. I am still reading more and more, but if they are asking us to do something, then they had better already know how to do it. ross - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance Ross Cornett wrote: I still would like to know the amount of incident that this CALEA will cause for all of its costs to our industry. Did anyone ask the FBI, why they cannot have several machines and deliver them as needed pre-configured then we can install them when they are needed. It is highly unreasonable for the FBI to ask everyone to have a utility and manage this utility when it will never be used by a very large portion of our industry. It is far cheaper for the government to sameday ship their device to us anywhere in the nation then it is to have everyone else trying to scramble to satisfy a need that will largely be an expensive dust collector in most businesses. Let's assume that the FBI would send you a box for LI. What about the remaining requirements for CALEA? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress
We are just reverse taping on the connectors, then mastic just past the connector and its rubber seal, then taping it up on the outside tighter on the N connector end to make sure it squeezes the mastic to the radio no problems yet... - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] Moisture Ingress I would like a bit of feedback from those of you who have been installing outdoor antennas for a while. I have a problem that I would like to see fixed. It seems that after every long rain we see problems with the occasional connection outside at the antenna getting water into it. We use the Scotch seal mastic tape to seal the connections. The guys do not like having to climb and they work hard to try to make sure we do not get these problems and yet they come back. I would like to hear what you veterans out there are doing to make sure the water stays out. Thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
That is what I was looking for. We all serve the same interest and that is customer satisfaction. I did learn a great deal from you all providing me your feedback. Our scenario has been been using bulk ordered refurbs. We used to be all Linksys until we started seeing a high failure rate. Power in this area is seems to be poor. intermittent flickers cause a router to loose its config or completely slam it. The customer never tells us it was due to power until we ask a few simple questions. Then we realize we are being misinformed. Moved to the netgears to see what they could do and started out with refurbs and now I believe we are paying for htat decision. I will once again consider the linkys and I will surely look into the belkin. I have also been informed that motorola was putting out a good router, the BR700 but they are discontinued. So, thank you to all that have provided me this feedback. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Who has a lifetime warranty? KyWiFi LLC wrote: Yes, I'm serious. Lots of companies offer a lifetime warranty. If they have a good product, they should stand behind it. If their product is junk, then... Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routers
Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Routers
I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CALEA
Is anyone aware of this? a.. Date: May 14, 2007 a.. Requirement: Deadline for Interconnected VoIP and Broadband Access providers. http://www.askcalea.net/faqs.html I was notified by a local CO that we had to be compliant by Feb 2nd... Anyone know anything about this? Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 2.4
what polarity contact me off line. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 2.4 If anyone is running Tranzeo 2.4, I have about 4 of their 17db 90degree Horizontal sectors collecting dust. As well as a few of the 900MHz radios. It turns out the big city of Greensboro is not very RF friendly outside of the 5.3/5.8 range :-) _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 2.4
:] ok.. i didn't read all the way first... simple male issue... please contact me offline. - Original Message - From: Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 2.4 If anyone is running Tranzeo 2.4, I have about 4 of their 17db 90degree Horizontal sectors collecting dust. As well as a few of the 900MHz radios. It turns out the big city of Greensboro is not very RF friendly outside of the 5.3/5.8 range :-) _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/655 - Release Date: 1/28/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] $20 'naked' DSL
I have not and will not be concerned about the phone company. We all should be streaming our businesses to have multiple revenue streams to adjust to the influx of customers coming and going from DSL and Cable. I don't know what it is like in your areas, but just because they are here doesn't mean any of the following. 1. their networks are capable even after upgrading. 2. they have any clue on costomer service and the needs of their valued customers 3. the customer is typically sick of the out of town influence 4. they cannot stay on a price point without stuffing all the inclusives down the customers throat. 5. they can never have the quality control that we have when we manage our networks becuase we care down to the placement of the ethernet in the home for the customers 6. computers are always going to create the need for us to repair them. ATT can't manage a phone let alone a computer 7. When you get so big as they are money is everything. We alwasy maintain customer relationships are everything. 8. ok... you get my point. As for $99 per month for you 256K... i am underpriced that is what the market will do for you. It is an abosolute shame that the large companies have destroyed the margins in this business. They found that they cann't manage the money from the phone services and now when they all had a chance to make some real money the screwed that up too. Give it time and stay the course. They cannot continue to smash the price to floor and make the money they need to stay afloat. Mergers cost money, network upgrades cost money, every time they slip in cheap and press the locals out of business they win again. Spread your streams out and stay the course. Install Dish, sell computers, offer voip, network homes, fix computers, go onsite to fix the phones that the phone companies charge to much for, install cable, etc... shore up your business by spreading your weight out and when the ice gets thin from DSL you won't fall through the ice Sorry so lengthy... but Telco stands for lack of quality and your money is leaving town. Rural America doesn't like. Ross - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] $20 'naked' DSL Nice words from ATT but... I'm in Los Angeles County only 1/2 mile from the city/country line. ATT doesn't offer DSL here - apparently they don't think there are enough customers to justify the cost of upgrading their network. Will ATT be required to offer DSL here? It sounds like they will according to the terms of the ATT purchase of Bell South. I think the Los Angeles market is at least 80% upgraded for broadband but will ATT ever REALLY offer DSL here? I'm not holding my breath. Will there ever be any enforcement of these merger terms? Again, I'm not holding my breath. I don't want to seem (or feel) ungrateful because half the secret of enjoying life is remembering to practice an attitude of gratitude. I'm grateful that there is a WISP in the area who provides me with 256 kbps symmetrical service for only $99.99 per month. jack Peter R. wrote: January 16, 2007 ATT to offer $20 'naked' DSL service LESLIE CAULEY, USA TODAY Cheaper high-speed Internet service is coming. Within a few months, ATT is expected to start charging $19.95 a month for naked DSL, meaning you don't have to buy any other ATT service, including phone, to get that rate. It currently charges $45 for a stand-alone broadband subscription. ATT also is developing $10 DSL for new subscribers who also buy ATT-branded phone service. ATT plans to offer both services for at least 30 months. The clock starts as soon as the media giant starts selling them in any of the 22 states where it is the incumbent local phone company, including California, Florida, Illinois and Texas. Why so cheap? Three words: Federal Communications Commission. The FCC, which has broad regulatory control over the U.S. telecommunications industry, recently approved ATT's acquisition of BellSouth. To get needed votes from the FCC's two Democratic members, ATT agreed, reluctantly, to offer these DSL bargains. ATT is required to roll out the $19.95 offer within one year and the $10 rate within six months. Gene Kimmelman, public policy director of Consumers Union, says he expects ATT to move faster. Under the terms of the FCC agreement, ATT is required to offer naked DSL for $19.95 in markets that are at least 80 percent upgraded for broadband. That describes many of ATT's biggest markets, says Kimmelman, who helped negotiate the settlement. Under the deal, ATT's cheap DSL products will clock in at 768 kilobits per second. While that's slower than the 1.5 megabits to 3 megabits popular with many U.S. consumers, it's more than good enough for Internet telephony, Kimmelman says. As such, he thinks the twin offers
Re: [WISPA] Forgetful
that sounds like it thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:36 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Forgetful I believe this is the one Dawn posted a couple weeks ago. You will have to zoom in to see the tower locations/owners etc. Its a great tool!! http://towers.conxx.net/ Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross CornettSent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:28 AMTo: Conversations over a new WISP Trade OrganizationSubject: [WISPA] Forgetful Recently, someone posted a website that linked to all the towers in the country and that site was a listing of contact phone numbers for each tower. can you please post that site again. Thank you. Ross CornettVP 217 342 6201 ex 7HofNet Communications, Inc.www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Email Hosting
Talk to me off list. I can provide if reasonably. Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: [WISPA] Email Hosting List, Anyone know a good place to out-source email hosting to? Jason Wallace -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Back bone
Gentlemen and Ladies, Just curious if anyone outside the major mets have a back bone of DS3 either partial or full and what they are paying for them. I have been quoted $12000 per month for mine from ATT who has to lease lines from IL Consolidated. and I don't see now that is a workable figure in the wireless world. Any help would be appreciated. Ross CornettVP 217 342 6201 ex 7HofNet Communications, Inc.www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Farmers Wanting full Farm Coverage
Hey guys, I have a farmer that wants farm coverage with little or no trouble. He wants to browse from his tractor while the satelite guides his tractor for him. I am putting out 2.4 from his Elevator leg, and I believe with an omni he can get signal, is there a better way to do this? Please any ideas would be appreciated. Ross CornettVP 217 342 6201 ex 7HofNet Communications, Inc.www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
