Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [PolicyCommittee] Draft Itemsfor August 1 FCC Meeting

[Coran, Steve via Wireless]

My sense is that if you finish before Year 6 and USAC verifies that, you don't 
have to carry the LOC to term.  We can seek clarity in our Comments, or perhaps 
we stay silent so as not to create a strawman for others to oppose.

Stephen E. Coran
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From: members-boun...@wispa.org  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 12:01 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: policycommit...@wispa.org; wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [PolicyCommittee] [WISPA] Draft Itemsfor August 1 
FCC Meeting

Agree 100%

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 11:50 AM, G. Nicholas  wrote:
> 
> Steve and policy committee,
> 
> There is one item in the NPRM that is a change from the CAF2 letter of 
> credit rules and should be lobbied hard against as this adds increased 
> costs for our small WISPS.
> 
> In item #84  "We also propose that the letter of credit remain in 
> place until USAC and the Commission verify that a Rural Digital 
> Opportunity Fund winning bidder has met its minimum coverage and 
> service requirements at the end of the six-year milestone."
> 
> As noted under item 82 "A CAF Phase II auction support recipient must 
> only maintain an open letter of credit until the recipient has 
> certified it has met the final service milestone and the certification has 
> been verified.155"
> 
> 
> Given that WISP technology allows faster build out then fiber, many Wisps may 
> be able to meet their build-out completions in the first year.   Requiring 
> them to carry a letter of credit for 6 years could add 30% to a 
> winning bidders cost (at 5%/yr for the LOC)  these are funds that 
> reduce the actual amount available to be spent on true broadband build out.
> 
> 
> Hopefully we can make one last push to the FCC on why that is a bad 
> idea before the August meeting.
> 
> 
> Garth
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Coran, Steve
> Sent: 7/22/2019 7:55:27 AM
> To: kj...@ethoplex.com;policycommit...@wispa.org;ebow...@aristotle.net
> Cc: memb...@wispa.org;wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] [PolicyCommittee] [WISPA] Draft Itemsfor
> August 1 FCC Meeting
> 
>> Some good ideas here, which need to be measured against the FCC’s
> objectives.  In countless meetings with the FCC on CAF II rules and, 
> more recently, speed/latency testing, it is ever-apparent that the FCC 
> wants as much of this process to be a “check the box” exercise so they 
> do not have to rely on their own resources and lack of expertise to 
> decide eligibility and compliance.  For example, when we approached 
> the FCC about expanding the list of banks eligible to issue letters of 
> credit, the concern was not expanding the list but an ability of the 
> FCC to look at some independent list which would make the judgment for 
> them.  So we went from less than 100 banks on the S list to more 
> than 3,600 banks on the Weiss list.  Requiring audited financials 
> provides a measure of independent verification from the FCC.  I don’t 
> even know if the FCC looks at the audited financials – and I don’t 
> think anyone has been disqualified based on the content of the 
> financials – they just want to know that someone independent and with 
> expertise has conducted an audit (and recall that WISPA was 
> influential in removing this requirement from the front end of the 
> auction so that only winners have to spend the money for the audit).  
> When it comes to assessing financial wherewithal, the FCC would have 
> no ability to look at tax returns and decide who is financially viable 
> and who is not.  Same with speed/latency testing – the FCC wants to 
> look at a list and determine the testing route, not rely on every CAF 
> recipient to provide traffic routing maps.  While we can quibble with 
> the standards the FCC adopted, I think having standards is a better solution 
> than having the FCC make independent – and by definition arbitrary – 
> judgements for each applicant.
>> 
>> Also, each CAF recipient is required to make annual certifications 
>> that it
> has enough money for the next year to meet its obligations.  So, taken 
> together, the FCC prescribes gating criteria on the front end that 
> enables them to determine eligibility without doing any 
> application-by-application analysis and drawing lines in gray areas, 
> and follows that up with annual certifications and threat of USAC 
> audits.  I do not see that structure changing over time.
>> 
>> I do th

[WISPA] WISPAmerica Sunday Evening

[Steve Barnes]

Coming in about 5 Sunday afternoon.  Anyone know of plans for that evening or 
something to do?

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband Comm.
NLBC.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101
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[WISPA] 900MHz band

[Steve Barnes]

We had an issue this week where we had a Power company have a 50K licensed band 
at 901.152 Mhz for power meter reading.  We have still a few older links that 
are 900MHz on Yagi's to individuals in deep woods.  I had to move channels all 
over the place as a 902-912MHz 10Mhz channel with UBNT does not have edge 
filters that don't pollute down to 901MHz.  So moving to the middle of the band 
cleaned up the noise on their license.

Now they are claiming that 10MHz channel width in the 900MHz ISM band is 
Illegal.  That the channel width is to be no larger than 8MHz. I have read all 
kinds of ISM docs from the FCC and I see no mention of max channel widths.  
They made mention of talking to the FCC if we didn't fix the issue.

Proof they are wrong any one?   This is a national company with a $10K Anritsu 
analyzer they hired in to find the noise.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
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Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

[Steve Barnes]

Timothy has been in the business before.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?


Just interested to hear an outsider point of view...

- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

Money...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 8, 2017 12:19 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:

Why do you want to buy a WISP?
- Original Message -
From: t...@steelinternet.com<mailto:t...@steelinternet.com>
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

Good question,

Bill, my name is Timothy Steele we have met before.  I am in the market for 
purchasing a WISP. No idea where to begin.  Could I get your email address? 
Mine is t...@fiberxstream.com<mailto:t...@fiberxstream.com> and anyone else on 
this list aware of a WISP selling or any brokers etc. also please let me know.

Regards,

-TJ

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Bill MacNamara
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:35 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

Jeff,

Would be happy to talk with you offline, I have been a lender to the WISP space 
for over 12 years and have financed dozens of tranactions. Best way to reach me 
would be by phone (928) 970-1340.

Warmest Regards,

Bill MacNamara



Bill MacNamara
(928) 970-1340



On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:33 PM, 
<jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com<mailto:jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com>>
 wrote:
Please share your recommendations and/or experiences with business brokers or 
other suggestions for selling a WISP.

Thanks,
Jeff

Jeffrey A. Franklin, Esq.
Principal Consultant
BrightLine Tech Solutions, LLC
101 Pennsylvania Ave.
Reading, PA  19606-9406
610-314-7130<tel:(610)%20314-7130> (o)
610-914-1953<tel:(610)%20914-1953> (c)
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www.BrightLineTechSolutions.com<http://www.BrightLineTechSolutions.com>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

[Coran, Steve]

To the extent any WISPA member needs relief from FCC rules in an emergency 
situation (e.g., an STA to operate at variance from FCC licenses), that is 
something that we are prepared to do.  But, that need is not known right now.  
I understand Gino is in contact with the feds on the ground in PR, and Mike 
Meluskey has reported that he is working with them in USVI.  Brian Webster and 
I are communicating about equipment delivery, but I'm not sure if that is a 
FEMA/DHS issue or not.  There is equipment stateside for Gino, we just need to 
get it there.  I know Brian is working hard on that, and I've tried as well.

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter PLLC |2001 L Street, NW, Suite 400 
| Washington, DC 20036
202-416-6744 (o) | 202-669-3288 (m) | 
sco...@lermansenter.com  |@stevecoran - twitter

From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Jack Unger
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:16 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance


Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.

The Internet is "critical infrastructure".

Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the FCC, 
FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?

jack

On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
We are in touch with FEMA and DHS... but no help...

From: > on behalf 
of Michael Meluskey >
Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
To: "memb...@wispa.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Hi Guys,
Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the pleasure, 
Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical material.

Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people dedicated to 
helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them ship down the 
gear he needs.

Mike Meluskey
Broadband VI




Gino A. Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger 
> wrote:


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Date:

Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400

From:

Brian Webster 

Reply-To:

WISPA General List 

To:

'WISPA General List' 


Daniel,
I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send me an 
email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. 
Gino Villarini is a large WISP on the island who has requested help. The 
problem is logistics right now. His replacement equipment is still stateside 
and we are working on ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the 
manpower resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to 
the island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is 
not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that 
equipment hits the island.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
www.Broadband-Mapping.com

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Daniel K
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance

Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast after 
Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called 
RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.

I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones, 
communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some of 
the local WISPs get back on their feet.

Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much for 
resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong 
electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could 
benefit any similar effort if there is one.


Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [WISPA] Harness

[Steve Barnes]

https://toweroneinc.com/collections/harnesses


Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Melson
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 12:15 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Harness

My tower climber is asking for a new climbing harness. All we've ever had is 
what came with the company when we bought it in 2010. What brands do you 
recommend?

Thanks,

Kevin Melson
Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
1801 S Harper Rd
Suite 4A
Corinth, MS 38834
662-287-1722
e...@e1w.com
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[WISPA] CBRS

[Steve Barnes]

WISPA Mentioned

http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/ruckus-rise-broadband-cite-concerns-about-potential-3-5-ghz-cbrs-rule-changes?utm_medium=nl_source=internal=775699_tok=eyJpIjoiWldFeU16VTRPVFJtTjJJNCIsInQiOiJnTGxObngzSVwvcXBNa1FNNVV4SDBpS2JwWEg2bFwvV0c3MEcyNFVPZUxBXC96MTZJWjd2YXpndCtZdEJHb0FLY0E3YnNkT29Wb2hrdDhMVTF1TlRYbzBWdU9BUHl1eVdZd2gxaHpFZzdCXC9sdHU2ZUhTWkNoZnQwalM1VlNJOEZJeUsifQ%3D%3D


Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

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Re: [WISPA] RF Armor Non-Pen Tower

[Steve Barnes]

What that is a lot of weight.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Bright
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:52 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF Armor Non-Pen Tower

On 10/4/2016 8:12 AM, Matthew Brendle wrote:
Has anyone used one of these yet?

RF Armor NPM30WM

I have a project where it would be perfect, but I need a picture of one 
installed to show to the building owner.  Anyone have a picture of one they 
would share?

Well, it's not that model but here's a roof sled that we have.


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Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All

[Steve Barnes]

I am so sad to hear about Grants passing.  I have been friends with Grant for 
years as we are a Platypus user and Grant was the Platypus evangelist.   What a 
great guy.  He will be greatly missed.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Trina Coffey, Director of Operations
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:10 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org
Cc: 'WISPA Board Members List' <bo...@wispa.org>; 'WISPA General List' 
<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] A sad day for All

Hello

WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of longtime 
WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved in an accident 
a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and prayers go out to 
Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family.  If you would like to help the 
family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up.  
https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1

The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we will 
miss him.


Respectfully,

Trina Coffey
Director of Operations
WISPA
260-622-5775 direct
866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only)
530-227-6696 cell
www.wispa.org<http://www.wispa.org>

Come see us at WISPAPALOOZA<http://www.wispa.org/Events/WISPAPALOOZA>!!

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Re: [WISPA] Big Guns align behind 3.5 ghz CBRS LTE

[Steve Barnes]

Thanks for posting this Gino,

I read the article and thought it was interesting. My only concern is there 
will be that many more bidders in the PAL license area.  I think that this 
alliance has the capability to be a very good thing for wisps. But it will make 
us have to spend the money to actually purchase our spectrum.  This is a new 
thought for many of us.

These 3 main players are already in the LTE market with Intel, Qualcomm, and 
Nokia already having silicon that can do the CRBS band.  A stable uniform 
platform may arise from this that may interoperate between carriers and may 
give WISPs the first time chance to partner with celcos with interconnect 
agreements.  Our networks will have to be able to handle it but I think there 
is more revenue possible, at least for Rural WISPs.  Companies in very metro 
areas are probably out of luck.

The thought of having a large amount of equipment that all uses the same spec, 
the same timing mechanisms with GPS sync, allows us to buy into the technology 
and share the spectrum. Maybe we can make this band work the way that we wished 
all the bands worked and interoperate with everyone who follows the spec and 
not be fighting the big boys all the time

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:22 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] Big Guns align behind 3.5 ghz CBRS LTE

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/



Gino Villarini

President

Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968


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Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

[Steve Barnes]

Usually UPS have a voltage that they shut down the power and doesn't let the 
batteries go to 0Volts and collapse the batteries.

If you use a Netonix to power your stuff then you can set it to shut down at a 
voltage.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:57 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

Can someone comment on what value there is in the UPS module, vs just using the 
charger and running the load off the batteries?

I can see value in the relay contacts for battery status, but if those are not 
being monitored, what else is that unit good for?  There is no LVD, no 
temperature compensation, no charge voltage regulation, and no real way to 
monitor the DC power supply (Is it even on) built into the unit.   There are 
more expensive units out there with much of this functionality.In our case 
we run without the UPS and monitor the power separately.  Maybe I'm missing 
something?

Example of more $$:
https://www.winncom.com/vi/products/DIN-UPS-24-10
https://www.asi-ez.com/member/~ASIDCU20.asp


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:08 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies


DR-xxx-24 is not just a charger, it is a full power supply.  We used them with 
and without the DR-UPS40.

SD and RSD have smaller footprint.



On 7/14/2016 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
Fully din rail is a 2 part unit.
DR-120-24 as battery charger and DR-UPS40 is the UPS

In non-DIN there is the AD-155B and if you find the right clips you can mount 
that to a DIN rail but its pretty large.


Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 2:24 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org><mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies


SD works for me but people have said RSD is better.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I know this has been covered a bazillion times but i couldn't find the threads.

I don't need UPS capability. Was there a specific Meanwell line to watch out 
for?

Thank You,
Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

[Steve Barnes]

Clay, With the battles you have undergone and the lumps you have undertaken, 
You can handle this.  But it sure looks like you never get a break brother.  
Good luck.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM
NLBC.COM

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:47 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies

Why ouch?


Josh Luthman
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Clay Stewart 
<cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com<mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>>
 wrote:
Good info, thanks.

Also, my daily google scan picked this up... 
http://www.pressreleaserocket.net/signawave-chooses-telrad-networks-for-virginia-lte-internet-deployment/470238/

ouch.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Scott Reed 
<sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com<mailto:sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com>> wrote:

DR-xxx-24 is not just a charger, it is a full power supply.  We used them with 
and without the DR-UPS40.

SD and RSD have smaller footprint.



On 7/14/2016 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
Fully din rail is a 2 part unit.
DR-120-24 as battery charger and DR-UPS40 is the UPS

In non-DIN there is the AD-155B and if you find the right clips you can mount 
that to a DIN rail but its pretty large.


Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Meanwell DIn rail power supplies


SD works for me but people have said RSD is better.

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On Jul 14, 2016 2:20 AM, <mike.l...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
I know this has been covered a bazillion times but i couldn't find the threads.

I don't need UPS capability. Was there a specific Meanwell line to watch out 
for?

Thank You,
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Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....

[Steve Barnes]

I keep thinking it says Gun Control.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol

to Major Tom

Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project

Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought they 
had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds [j...@spitwspots.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM
To: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the provisioning 
mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem collecting stats via that 
method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol to initially connect/provision 
the units first to exchange SSH keys, and you'd want it to be on a different ip 
that your previous aircontrol server.

A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on the same 
ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously provisioned will 
always try to connect to the old ip/server, which causes quite a bit of arp 
traffic.

 one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that, though pssh 
(parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess manually in the past.

josh reynolds :: chief information officer

spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some of the 
provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for aircontrol?  It's nice to 
have subscriber units phone home.
On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:

I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that uses

their own software might offer something.



Mike Hammett wrote:

Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't care

what you want. This is what you get.







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*Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project



For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new

project yesterday.



https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol



Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2.



We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db server,

and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this happen.



The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a

possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar to

observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version that

comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer features

and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this

project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral.



If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation,

ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by and

for the WISP community. Thank you!

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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Steve Barnes]

http://quickbooks.intuit.com/online/


Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

Does anyone have a good source to host Quickbooks?  I'm tired of hosting it 
myself and I would love to drop that Windows server like a bad habit.

I'm currently using Quickbooks Pro 2014 on a Windows terminal server.  I would 
like to be able to have 2 active concurrent users unless there's an additional 
recurring cost to this - in that case just 1 user is sufficient.

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Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

[Steve Barnes]

I have 3 clients that use it.  They love it.   Able to access it from any web 
device anywhere.

I use the Enterprise Edition any I love my windows servers.

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

I saw that in a quick search, but I'm curious if you or anyone is using it.  
Happy?


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On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
http://quickbooks.intuit.com/online/


Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Quickbooks hosts

Does anyone have a good source to host Quickbooks?  I'm tired of hosting it 
myself and I would love to drop that Windows server like a bad habit.

I'm currently using Quickbooks Pro 2014 on a Windows terminal server.  I would 
like to be able to have 2 active concurrent users unless there's an additional 
recurring cost to this - in that case just 1 user is sufficient.

Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

[Steve Barnes]

Faisal do you use these.  I have tried them in the past and when they are 
working to handle enough clean power for a whole tower they seem to get really 
hot.

I also do not recommend running them off a poor generator to get cleaner power. 
 The one I had melted after 2 hours.

Steven Barnes
GM
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

You can do a battery backup unit, like suggested by Sean H.

However to answer your question,  APC makes a whole line of Voltage Regulators, 
which are the product to fix this type of issue.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313_nkw=apc+voltage+regulators_sacat=0


Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.netmailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:30:09 AM
Subject: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

We are having some issues lately on a couple of sites. AC mains is dropping 
below 90 vac, anyone recommends a good Voltage Regulator?



Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] isolated network hacked using fm signals... #mindblown

[Steve Barnes]

WOW!

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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:57 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] isolated network hacked using fm signals... #mindblown


http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/fm-data-leaking/


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[WISPA] What happens in Vegas won't stay in Vegas

[Steve Barnes]

It's not too late folks to get signed up and make it to WISPAPALOOZA.  I cannot 
tell you how excited I am to see all you and meet some of you for the first 
time.

And as the Subject says: What happens in Vegas won't stay in Vegas.  You will 
bring so much knowledge home.  There is no way that this conference cannot 
improve our company.

Don't be left out get on Price line or whatever you have to.  Be there, you 
can't afford not to.

http://www.cvent.com/events/wispapalooza-2014/event-summary-8773af34cc4944efba5cfd664bcce724.aspx

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Re: [WISPA] Bucket Truck or Van for Fiber?

[Steve Barnes]

Van with a Bucket.
[http://www.aboutaeriallifts.com/pics/versalift_van_tel.jpg]

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bucket Truck or Van for Fiber?

As an old fiber tech, I always preferred to splice, etc. inside an 
environmentally controlled van, then coil up and hang overhead or mount down in 
the hole. In PR, with the heat, bugs, rain, go the van route with a small boom 
if you can. That's my recommendation.

Patrick Leary
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Subject: [WISPA] Bucket Truck or Van for Fiber?

We are building our fiber crew, most will be aerial.  Van or Truck?



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Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

[Steve Barnes]

We have had to reset them to factory and upgrade them in office before putting 
them out.
If you use a standard config file for all your radios, STOP! All configs are 
not created equal.  What we found was our NnoBidge config worked great on 
NanBeams until the next upgrade and then they crashed. We now have a separate 
config file for every model, every revision, and every firmware change we 
remake then all.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

Nope I was wrong.  I just got a box of them and they're all 5.5.6.  These were 
airshipped and arrived this morning to my address.


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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
It's possible. Very old ones. Maybe beta only. I can't remember if 5.5.4 or 
5.5.6 was the first.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 09/16/2014 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That doesn't seem possible...


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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, timothy steele 
timothy.pct...@gmail.commailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
A nano beam had 5.5.6 on it? That seems strange
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
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To 5.5.9 no.  Are you using the XW?

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On Sep 16, 2014 3:00 PM, Bryce Duchcherer 
bduc...@netago.camailto:bduc...@netago.ca wrote:
Anyone else having problems with nanobeams crashing after a firmware update?
It’s starting to be a common occurrence for us.

Bryce D
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Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

[Steve Barnes]

I was told by Matt Hardy that there should be a differnet config for each 
radio.  Pretty Simple reset one to factory make your default changes and save 
the config.

One of my techs have even gotten good at loading the factory defaults remotely 
and making enough changes to that config that he doesn’t even loose access.  I 
tell him whatever.  You are the dude that has to go climb and fix it if you 
screw it up.  So far only one has he bricked.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

I've got an nsm2 config and beam2 config.  Never drilled down to firmware 
versions (past 5.5).


Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
We have had to reset them to factory and upgrade them in office before putting 
them out.
If you use a standard config file for all your radios, STOP! All configs are 
not created equal.  What we found was our NnoBidge config worked great on 
NanBeams until the next upgrade and then they crashed. We now have a separate 
config file for every model, every revision, and every firmware change we 
remake then all.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

Nope I was wrong.  I just got a box of them and they're all 5.5.6.  These were 
airshipped and arrived this morning to my address.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
It's possible. Very old ones. Maybe beta only. I can't remember if 5.5.4 or 
5.5.6 was the first.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 09/16/2014 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That doesn't seem possible...


Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, timothy steele 
timothy.pct...@gmail.commailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
A nano beam had 5.5.6 on it? That seems strange
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

To 5.5.9 no.  Are you using the XW?

Josh Luthman
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On Sep 16, 2014 3:00 PM, Bryce Duchcherer 
bduc...@netago.camailto:bduc...@netago.ca wrote:
Anyone else having problems with nanobeams crashing after a firmware update?
It’s starting to be a common occurrence for us.

Bryce D
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[WISPA] FW: [Webinar] An Insight into the Wifi-Offload Technology and Lab Testing Solutions

[Steve Barnes]

Anybody interested in this.  I am out of town that day for travel.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Subject: [Webinar] An Insight into the Wifi-Offload Technology and Lab Testing 
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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Steve Barnes]

Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz backhauls 
for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz Client other 
than business.  I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths in and out for 
redundancy.  So that is 35+ Links.  Most are 5 miles or more so not an AF24 
candidate in my rain zone.  I can't afford to just go out and buy $175,000 
worth of licensed backhauls.  But for the price of one Licensed link I can buy 
2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever)  saving me $100,000 when all is said 
and done.  

Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer?  Heck 
Yes!!  But that is not the reality I live in.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.



On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 Higher one way throughput.
 More channels to choose from.
 DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
 External antennas.
 Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things 
 that vary like X-pol and F/B.
 Lower power consumption.
 Standard PoE.
 Etc.
 
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC
 omputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
 computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL
 
 --
 --
 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
 
 THanks Josh!
 I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
 
 H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
 Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
 And latency is higher than an airFiber
 
 What's the amazing thing about this new device?
 
 On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
 OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing

 submit comments for approval / additions please

 I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some 
 of it I'm lazy on.

 TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / 
 channel width table

 Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of 
 an
 RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).

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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Steve Barnes]

No I wrapped of the County and the City for the most they use me.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adair Winter
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

I'm right there with ya Matt.

Steve,
Do you have any competitors in your area? City/County/Government putting up 
5ghz?

Around here there are 7 (including us) using 5ghz in a WISP/Managed services 
capacity. Add on the city doing a 1-3 antennas on every major intersection in 
town for traffic light control plus some of their own inter building 
connections and it's VERY busy in the main part of town. It's driving us to 
licensed links to get the bandwidth out of our data center where we can use DFS 
to make short jumps to sub towers.
Last week a competitor (wispa member) fired up a 5ghz link and took down an 
entire tower for us until we moved to a DFS channel then eventually they turned 
it off and we moved back to our original channel.
Unfortunately because of the distance to this tower I can't use DFS legally and 
because of channel usage don't have a second link. (sucks)

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Matt Hoppes 
mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
I totally understand, Steve.

What I'm saying is now you have folks throwing up 5GHz 40MHz
backhauls ew.  I guess we'll say.  It's nice the options are out
there, but I wish they could be saved for use in the hands of WISPs only.


On 8/6/14, 2:17 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
 Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz 
 backhauls for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz 
 Client other than business.  I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths 
 in and out for redundancy.  So that is 35+ Links.  Most are 5 miles or more 
 so not an AF24 candidate in my rain zone.  I can't afford to just go out and 
 buy $175,000 worth of licensed backhauls.  But for the price of one Licensed 
 link I can buy 2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever)  saving me $100,000 
 when all is said and done.

 Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer?  Heck 
 Yes!!  But that is not the reality I live in.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCSWIN.com
 Howard LLC.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

 I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.



 On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 Higher one way throughput.
 More channels to choose from.
 DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
 External antennas.
 Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things
 that vary like X-pol and F/B.
 Lower power consumption.
 Standard PoE.
 Etc.




 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC
 omputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
 computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 *From: *Matt Hoppes 
 mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

 THanks Josh!
 I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?

 H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
 Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
 And latency is higher than an airFiber

 What's the amazing thing about this new device?

 On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
 OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing

 submit comments for approval / additions please

 I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some
 of it I'm lazy on.

 TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal /
 channel width table

 Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of
 an
 RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).

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Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

[Steve Barnes]

Josh are you billing your Wisp customer with QuickBooks? I would stop that 
practice. Get a billing system and keep QuickBooks for AP and GL.

Steve Barnes
PCSWIN.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] credit card processors

Who are using for credit card processing, and why? What are your rates?
-- 

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SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Steve Barnes]

Ben and Matt,
So the new RocketAC Lite wont do PTMP and it will not have AirPrism.  That I 
get.  So what is the benefit of these units over a standard Rocket M5 other 
then it has AC which with only dual Pol what other advantage with this have.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ben Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

No products currently available in AirMax like with airprism.

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

So when you said no products you mean no Airmax products?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 2, 2014 5:32 PM, Ben Moore 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
Yes nothing in AirMax yet.

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Randy Cosby 
dco...@infowest.commailto:dco...@infowest.com wrote:
Unifi AP+?

On 7/2/2014 2:52 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
No products released yet with airprism...

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard 
mat...@litewire.netmailto:mat...@litewire.net wrote:
nevermind what I just said ;-)

So is anything besides the non-lite Rocket AC getting airprism at this point?


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
Lite = less cost, no airprism, etc...

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
So non-lite = $$$



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

See response in forum...

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Matt,

The first post asked: What does the LITE mean in the new Rocket M5 AC Lite?

in which Ben totally skipped over answering it...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Matt Hardy 
m...@ubnt.commailto:m...@ubnt.com wrote:
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-General-Discussion/Rocket-M5-AC-Lite/m-p/900726#U900726

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca 
wrote:
I saw that as well. But again, if this is the Lite product, is there a higher 
level product to come, perhaps with GPS?

Daniel Mullen
ISN Inc.

Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote ..
 Says PTMP comes with a firmware upgrade.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zach Underwood 
 z...@zachunderwood.memailto:z...@zachunderwood.me
 wrote:

  Have a look at this http://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket-ac/
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, 
  wi...@metrocom.camailto:wi...@metrocom.ca wrote:
 
  So if this is the 'Rocket M5 AC PTP Lite' you should expect something
  above this as well. Any ideas?
 
  Daniel Mullen
  ISN Inc.
 
 
  Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote ..
  
  https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=ExhibitsRequestTimeout=500calledFromFrame=Napplication_id=527992fcc_id=SWX-RM5ACPTP
  
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax

[Steve Barnes]

You can also ask them for a letter of determination. It may take them a while 
to get it to you but with that you are covered.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax


--
Under the grandfather clause included in the Internet Tax Freedom Act, Texas is 
currently collecting a tax on Internet access charges over $25.00 per month. 
Texas collected tax on internet access prior to the enactment of ITFA under the 
Taxables Services provision of its Tax Code, see older § 151.0101(a). Texas 
has refined its tax code to define Internet access service, include it under 
Taxable Services and exempted the first $25.00 on a monthly basis, See 
current Texas Tax Code § 151.325  151.0101(a)
---

and also listed in detail...

http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=Tapp=9p_dir=Np_rloc=166385p_tloc=14689p_ploc=1pg=2p_tac=ti=34pt=ch=3rl=365

-

Don't be afraid of picking up the phone and calling the State's Tax Dept. and 
speaking with their Legal Staff, for guidance, they are obligated to assist you 
with the info, and they cannot hold your questions against you.

That is one of the best ways to get accurate legal advice at no charge / cost 
to you.





Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
 From: Sam w...@csilogan.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:52:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax
 
 Thank you to everyone for your thoughts about my question. If any of 
 you are in Texas or New Mexico, are you currently collecting taxes 
 from your customers? I'm reading online that the first $25 of service 
 fees are exempt from taxes, meaning (if I'm understanding this 
 correctly) that it you charge say $40 a month, you'd have to collect 
 sales tax on $15 of that charge. Or is that not the way it works?
 
 Thanks again everyone! (Hope everyone in the Midwest made it through 
 that storm last night we had 114 MPH straight-line winds in and 
 all around Omaha NE.
 
 Sam
 
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Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?

[Steve Barnes]

The future is going to be interesting for sure.

A few questions come to mind.
Is there a business model where WISP's can partner with a Google or Microsoft 
to help advance our offerings or would you be just selling your soul to Satan.
How do you compete against that level of investment if they start putting up 
hotspots to offload from the LTE networks in your area since that will most 
likely destroy 2.4 and 5.7-8 bands.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?

http://gigaom.com/2014/05/21/google-reportedly-plans-to-target-businesses-with-wi-fi/?



Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Paging S. Coran

[Coran, Steve]

Nope, I'm up to date.  Just sent a note to Gino.  Thanks.

Stephen E. Coran
Lerman Senter, PLLC
2000 K Street, N.W., Suite 600
Washington, D.C. 20006-1809
(202) 416-6744 - office
(202) 669-3288 -mobile
@stevecoran - twitter
sco...@lermansenter.commailto:sco...@lermansenter.com

From: Rick Harnish [mailto:ri...@wispa.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 4:13 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Cc: Coran, Steve
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Paging S. Coran

I was with Steve yesterday in Mechanicsburg, PA at the Mid-Atlantic WISP 
Roundup and he spent most of the day at the FCC and is on an Agenda Committee 
call right now for WISPAPALOOZA.  He is probably behind on his emails.

Join us at WISPAPALOOZA 2014 in Las Vegas, Oct. 11th - 
18thhttp://www.wispapalooza.net/

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-622-5699 Cell
866-317-2851 Ext. 101 WISPA Office
260-622-5774 Direct Line
Skype: rick.harnish.
rharn...@wispa.orgmailto:rharn...@wispa.org
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Paging S. Coran
Importance: High

Steve, are you getting my off list emails?



Gino A. Villarini
President
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www.aeronetpr.comhttp://www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr





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Re: [WISPA] Shielded enclosure for Rockets

[Steve Barnes]

http://www.rfelements.com/en/products/shields/rockshield/

Not sure how close they are to being in distribution.  They were showing them 
at Little Rock.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:17 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Shielded enclosure for Rockets

I'm using non Ubnt antennas and looking for a shielded enclosure where I can 
mount a Rocket easier.  Right now I'm using the same thing for MTs:

http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SBX-ALU

This box doesn't have an easier mount for a Rocket and overall a bit 
clumsy/heavy for a Rocket.

I'm not using Rocket Titaniums at this time.

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Re: [WISPA] Power Airfiber via alternate port?

[Steve Barnes]

Gino, I don't think so.  I think I tried with the last set and had no luck.  
Sent email to Matt Hardy or Ben Moore for sure.  Post to 
ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org they roam there sometime.


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Power Airfiber via alternate port?

Does the AF24 supports POE on the mngmt port? Got a situation where I need to 
power the AF24 via another port... not on the data port



Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

[Steve Barnes]

Call Procera and tell them you are having bottlenecks. Is not this the very 
thing they are supposed to not allow.

Steve Barnes
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PCSWIN.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Art Stephens
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing 
the shaping.
Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet.
Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links

Hope that helps

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
fai...@snappytelecom.netmailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:
My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
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From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.commailto:asteph...@ptera.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these 
in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to 
figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

[Steve Barnes]

ADP offers a full line of online time tracking.  You pay for it though, through 
the nose.

But they then do it all.  Fed, State, and local taxes paid on time by them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:42 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

Check out TimeTrex.  There's a free/community edition, and the paid version is 
pretty reasonable and has an Android/iOS app, job costing, etc.  The setup, 
especially if you have to shoehorn existing policies into it, can be a little 
arduous.  But after that, it just works.

hth,

-Kristian

On 03/31/2014 03:39 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. 
 Presently we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with 
 that...just too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark 
 down their own time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone 
 has to retrieve their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then 
 add up the time, enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The 
 crews turn out at a remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

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Re: [WISPA] remote employee

[Steve Barnes]

You need to consider talking to an Employment Lawyer.  Consider Doug Haas.

Timeclock is a NO NO.
You setting his schedule is a NO NO.

Contractor = Plumber
You hire them for a job.  He can bill you by the hour and you can agree on a 
time but you cannot control his time and you do not provide him with his tools. 
 The job he is to do is all he is to do not whatever you tell him to do.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/independent-contractor-or-employee-government-decision-29681.html

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 1:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] remote employee

So, we finally got our former local tech set up at his office at his new home 3 
hours away. He has tunnel access into our net, access to billing and his VoIP 
phone tied to our switch to make and receive calls on our local lines, just 
like he did when he sat 10 feet from me. So next is to fine tune things.

We dumped him as a regular employee and moved to contract labor with no 
benefits, basically bumped him to a level where his pay per hour covered what 
he received via benefits, like insurance and vacation. Makes it easier for the 
accountant as she just cuts a check and doesn’t have to deduct taxes, however 
it now becomes his responsibility to claim wages and pay the taxes.

What we are working on now is management. My boss wants him to log everything 
he does and pay from there, but to me that seems to be a lot of work. We have a 
web based time clock, but I already have issues with techs forgetting to clock 
in or clock out, I cant imagine it would be better having a guy clock out after 
every single support call. Our phone system can log time on the phone and where 
the calls went to, but of course a guy can be busy updating firmware and 
re-configuring equipment without being on the phone.

The guy really only wants to clock 4 hours a day, but I need him available off 
an on during the day. He is unique and he could sit at home all day. I would 
almost just pay him 4 hours flat a day to sit and have him there and available, 
but the bosses want to pay him for only what he works, which I think puts more 
load on us deciphering logs to see what he actually worked.

Anyways kind of a first for us, and maybe a last. Just wondering what others, 
if any, have done. I don’t want to lose the guy because he takes care of a lot 
of stuff when I am gone and I don’t have to train him.

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?

[Steve Barnes]

WISPAmerica has opportunities for some of what you are looking for.

http://www.wispamerica.net/


Steve Barnes
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Isaac Wilder
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:27 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?

Long time subscriber, first time poster.

My name is Isaac Wilder. I'm one of the cofounders of the Free Network 
Foundation, an NGO that supports user-owned telecommunications systems.

I'm writing to ask if any of you have recommendations for seminars/cert 
programs for tower engineering (calculating loads, ballasts, guy tension, 
assembly, grounding, testing). I am in the Kansas City area, but could travel 
for the seminar. Something that ended with a cert would be a plus, but the key 
thing is the know-how.

Also interested in climbing/rigging programs.

If I could get both in one place, that would be great, but it's not a 
requirement.
We're a small org, and operate on a shoestring, so price is a factor, but 
obviously safety/quality comes first.

Looking for reccomendations, but would also like to know if there are folks to 
avoid.
Any guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated.


with gratitude,
Isaac Wilder
Director, The Free Network Foundation
www.thefnf.org
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Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput

[Steve Barnes]

Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests.  If 
you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 
100 on top of that .

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput

What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up.

http://www.att.com/speedtest/

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann 
zma...@gmail.commailto:zma...@gmail.com wrote:
It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net.   If Att has their own 
server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's 
on the same network


On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard 
g5inter...@gmail.commailto:g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously 
to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like 
speedtest.nethttp://speedtest.net and 
speakeasy.net/speedtesthttp://speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the 
place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just 
me, or do those test sites do that for everyone?

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Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput

[Steve Barnes]

How is your CPU on your router?  65 mbps sounds low for sure.  If you are on a 
100 Mbps circuit have you ever plugged a PC in directly and made sure you are 
getting the speed. With 100 M setup 92 is about the Max but you have a long way 
to get to there.   What type of router?

Things to look at:
Router CPU Load (while running test)
Queues setup wrong
Poor cable between upstream and router.
Wrong Handshaking from upstream.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:18 PM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput

Yes, it's doing around 20-25mbps download right now, and less than 3 megs on 
the upload. When I'm running the test, the download speed on the router climbs 
to about 50mbps.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests.  If 
you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 
100 on top of that .

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput

What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up.

http://www.att.com/speedtest/

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann 
zma...@gmail.commailto:zma...@gmail.com wrote:
It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net.   If Att has their own 
server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's 
on the same network


On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard 
g5inter...@gmail.commailto:g5inter...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,

I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously 
to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like 
speedtest.nethttp://speedtest.net and 
speakeasy.net/speedtesthttp://speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the 
place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just 
me, or do those test sites do that for everyone?


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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Steve Barnes]

I don’t see them bringing the price down.  With the ease of the tab they are 
worth it. Try to find another good quality  shielded cat5e end for $.45 each.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

I hope bringing the price down on the tough RJ-45's will be a topic from UBNT 
at AF
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Dan Petermann 
d...@wyoming.commailto:d...@wyoming.com wrote:

We do too
On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Me


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele 
timothy.pct...@gmail.commailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable?
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy 
jeremysmi...@gmail.commailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer 
(509.982.2181tel:%28509.982.2181) 
o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
That says gel filled.  the other is a dry “gel”.

marlon


From: Kevin Owenmailto:ko...@fsr.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott.


[https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/50x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/c/dc-1041_2.gif]

Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool

DC-1041


Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

INTERESTING!

I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only 
used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's 
site (streakwave).

Thanks for the find/info!
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
You can get it either way, shielded or not.
Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html
On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
Marlon,

Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded?  Do you have a part/product # for 
it?

Thanks,

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer 
(509.982.2181tel:%28509.982.2181)
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Have you tried the Shireen dry gel?  I’m addicted.

Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet.  IF there’s a problem that 
allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole.  Pretty cool stuff.

I do wish they had a better packaging system.  I really miss the “rabbit pull” 
mechanism that my indoor cable uses.

marlon


From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.
On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:
I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys 
making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for 
towers and installs so there is that option
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:
Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or 
easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is 
ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is 
better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Steve Barnes]

Scott does not have the same issues due to using Mikrotik in mostly metal 
cases.  The ESD of Plastic cases makes it so that you need the drain wire to 
protect the ports.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Are you using the unshielded for UBNT installs? I have started to to avoid 
radio defaulting due to crap cable install. Well, I havent seen the cables 
myself but they were unshielded and may have taken a surge of sorts.

From: Scott Reedmailto:sr...@nwwnet.net
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:31 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.
On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:
I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys 
making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for 
towers and installs so there is that option
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:
Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or 
easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is 
ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is 
better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] possible frozen antenna

[Steve Barnes]

They get condensation in them and they can leak down into the RF connector.  
Just had one in here that was taken down that was leaking.  Visually looked 
perfect.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] possible frozen antenna

http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-15-dbi-omnidirectional-antenna-n-female-connector

I have attached a link for an antenna we commonly use on our Canopy PMP100 2.4 
Omnis. I have an issue with an AP where everyone has decent signal but 
throughput is suffering (decent down capacity, crappy up capacity). Usually I 
have never had ice on these antennas. I did however use to have an icing issue 
on a smoother 5.7 AP 4 winters ago where I de-iced a few times a day, maybe a 
total of 20 times that season, on the same tower. This antenna has a rough 
texture, but I have never, that I know of, had an ice issue on it before. I 
have a guy trying to determine from the ground if he can detect ice, but it’s a 
175 foot climb. It’s a better day than today to climb for sure

anyways, just curious if others who may use this antenna has had the issue

thanks
heith
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Steve Utick]

We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used
one of these:

http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=9products_id=55

We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the
battery array.   We've got the controller set to auto start the generator
if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time
and then shut off.   We are about $1,000 into the whole setup.  (Doesn't
include the battery charger, that was already at the site)






On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Steve Utick]

Actually, I just looked, and they are down a bit from that:

http://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400E-Portable-Generator-Electric/dp/B001BMDFPS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1385486828sr=8-2keywords=xp4400eh

$400.   They are an electric start dual fuel generator.   The PacketFlux
generator controller takes care of auto starting the generator when
needed.   We used a $5 electric door lock actuator motor from eBay on the
thing to take care of opening and closing the choke to start it.   Works
great.




On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Steve, what LP gas gen did you buy for $650? You say it has an automatic
 electric start?


 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote:

 We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used
 one of these:


 http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=9products_id=55

 We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the
 battery array.   We've got the controller set to auto start the generator
 if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time
 and then shut off.   We are about $1,000 into the whole setup.  (Doesn't
 include the battery charger, that was already at the site)






 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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Oops.   Sorry, I forwarded the wrong one.   This is the one we are using:

http://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400EH-Portable-Generator-4400-Watt/dp/B009RBKGZC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1385488324sr=8-1keywords=XP4400EH

$499



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  Where does it say it runs LP?

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 On 11/26/2013 12:29 PM, Steve Utick wrote:

  Actually, I just looked, and they are down a bit from that:


 http://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400E-Portable-Generator-Electric/dp/B001BMDFPS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1385486828sr=8-2keywords=xp4400eh

  $400.   They are an electric start dual fuel generator.   The PacketFlux
 generator controller takes care of auto starting the generator when
 needed.   We used a $5 electric door lock actuator motor from eBay on the
 thing to take care of opening and closing the choke to start it.   Works
 great.




 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Clay Stewart 
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Steve, what LP gas gen did you buy for $650? You say it has an automatic
 electric start?


 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote:

  We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and
 used one of these:


 http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=9products_id=55

  We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the
 battery array.   We've got the controller set to auto start the generator
 if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time
 and then shut off.   We are about $1,000 into the whole setup.  (Doesn't
 include the battery charger, that was already at the site)






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 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
 Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...

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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

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We just took off the factory hose and had the propane company come out and
hook it up to a 250 gallon tank outside.   We've also got an electric
propane valve on it, controlled by the generator controller so we can turn
the LP off when it's not running.



On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

 Is there a simple way to connect this to a large LP tank?



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 Oops.   Sorry, I forwarded the wrong one.   This is the one we are using:


 http://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400EH-Portable-Generator-4400-Watt/dp/B009RBKGZC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1385488324sr=8-1keywords=XP4400EH

 $499



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 Where does it say it runs LP?

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 On 11/26/2013 12:29 PM, Steve Utick wrote:

 Actually, I just looked, and they are down a bit from that:


 http://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP4400E-Portable-Generator-Electric/dp/B001BMDFPS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1385486828sr=8-2keywords=xp4400eh

 $400.   They are an electric start dual fuel generator.   The PacketFlux
 generator controller takes care of auto starting the generator when
 needed.   We used a $5 electric door lock actuator motor from eBay on the
 thing to take care of opening and closing the choke to start it.   Works
 great.



 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Clay Stewart 
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Steve, what LP gas gen did you buy for $650? You say it has an automatic
 electric start?



 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote:

 We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used
 one of these:


 http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=9products_id=55

 We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the
 battery array.   We've got the controller set to auto start the generator
 if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time
 and then shut off.   We are about $1,000 into the whole setup.  (Doesn't
 include the battery charger, that was already at the site)





 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
 plus a $300 mount.


 It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
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Re: [WISPA] Good source for refurb Juniper?

[Steve Barnes]

I still have one company that uses it every 5 min for in office IM


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good source for refurb Juniper?

I thought AIM was shut down a while back?


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
Sig is from an email a week ago.  Steve is old school I guess.

-Kristian


On 11/20/2013 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
How old is that information?!  It has an AIM account!!!


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On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
Don't know about Juniper, but I've gotten Cisco and old Marconi gear from these 
guys...

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We are in the market for possibly 2 MX240 units, any good sources for 
refurb/used Juniper gear?

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Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

[Steve Barnes]

Had this issue a few weeks ago.  Had to down flash the firmware then upgrade to 
get it working.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

No auto filling Yes Incognito Tab
This is  setup on a radio only basis No Network.

New Chrome installation.
NGL
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To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

It also kind of sounds like you might have two devices with the same IP (hence 
the login requirement again).


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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Is it auto filling?  Did you use an Incognito Tab?


Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.netmailto:n...@ngl.net 
wrote:
Same results with Chrome.
What now?
NGL
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To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

Try Chrome.  If it fixes it, that's your problem.  If it doesn't, there are 
other things you can try.


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wrote:
I have been using IE on all makes of radios for several years with no problem. 
If I have to I will.
NGL
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On purpose?


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations
IE 8
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:54 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

What browser are you using?

Try Chrome in Incognito mode, see if you can reproduce it there.


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I have 2 Nanostations M2 that will not save a SSID change. When I change it 
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What is going on?
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Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

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I have 1 Tower with UBNT 900Mhz and 1 tower with MT and XR9 cards.  Both have 
~25 clients.  The MT tower Has more trees and a Single V-Pol Omni. The UBNT has 
a the UBNT 120* sector so it is limited to the direction it is pointed.  I get 
the same throughput on both.  I can give Clients a 5MB service no issues 
depending on SNR but most have a 2MB or less service.  They both work.  But 
these are very Rural and when the RTK farming system is active for Planting or 
Harvesting then it gets a little dicey.  But they have no other option when 
they call and complain during those times I explain that it is noise I have no 
control over, Sorry.

[my opinion]
Putting multiple 900Mhz Radios on a single tower is IMPOSIBLE without GPS sync. 
 The Noise from one to the other, even from bounces off of buildings 1 mile 
away makes the noise too high for the sector.  I mean come on you only have 
25MHz to play in and in today's world to offer the speeds you need to on 900 
you need to use 20 MHz.  Even if you use 10Mhz and use the top and bottom you 
only have 5MHz Separation and on the same tower unless you are on opposite 
sides of a solid steel water tower, you will have enough bleed over that your 
receive sensitivity will be shot.
[/my opinion]

Steve Barnes
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PCSWIN.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas


Ubnt 900 is a joke
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Well the one I remember is Canopy and Ubnt on the same tower, both
900.  The Canopy would rx more than enough to work while Ubnt wouldn't
hear the AP at all.  Moving around the trees (similar distance from
the tower) the signal would appear strong.

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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.netmailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Almost every time someone has detailed their installations to me, there just
 isn't enough signal to do anything. They're getting a -76 and wondering why
 it doesn't work. Increase that another 15 dB and try again. The Canopy will
 work a little better because it requires less signal, but it also has
 nowhere near the same throughput, so they're really apples and oranges.




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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

 Ubnt 900 apparently has extremely poor nlos for 900 MHz.  I've heard
 this a handful of people but haven't tried it myself.

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 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett 
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 How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their
 other
 products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better.
 Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these
 technologies have very low bandwidth.

 On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used
 both
 Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just
 put
 up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards
 the
 UBNT solution but hate

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[Steve Barnes]

But Mike that is the Rub. All things are never the same.  900 is dirty and 
Susceptible to so much noise and reflection because the signal does not die as 
quick.  I understand the “Theory” but still have a hard time understanding how 
a slower carrier wave (900MHz) can carry the same Data as 5800MHz carrier wave 
but I know that it could in a vacuum. The issue is we don’t live in a vacuum.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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900 will move the same amount as data as 2.4, 3.65 and 5 GHz with all else 
being the same.

If your throughput is low, you have too little signal for the noise you're 
seeing.


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I don't have anything to compare it to other than Tranzeo 900, but I have had 
decent results with it.  It obviously won't push the throughput that 5G or even 
2.4G will, even with the same channel sizes, but UBNT salvaged most of my 900 
customers when the Tranzeo gear started running into problems.


On 08/22/2013 09:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz system 
was junk had a poor RF environment.


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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Erik Anderson 
erik.ander...@hocking.netmailto:erik.ander...@hocking.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their other 
products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better. Out 
limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these technologies 
have very low bandwidth.

On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both 
Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put up 
a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the UBNT 
solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied with.



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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

[Steve Barnes]

I have to agree with Gino.  I have not had much luck with M365 PTMP setup.  PTP 
is fine but you only have 25MHz to use.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

Don't do it??  Where'd that come from.

There's really only two models of CPEs in the 3.65 world... the NanoStation and 
the NanoBridge.  The NanoStation will be good for about a mile clear line of 
site.  The NanoBridge will be good a few miles out, and perhaps closer with a 
small obstruction (bush, single tree, etc).

3GHz requires nearly clear line of site to operate properly.

You must register your 3GHz with the FCC and pay the $200 license fee.

You must coordinate with grandfathered earth stations if there are any near you.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 7/31/13 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Hey it could work...

 Why are you replacing the gear?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Don't do it...

 Gino A. Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 787.273.4143

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:01 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

 We are putting up a 3.65 GHz system next week to take existing customers off 
 of an existing Canopy 2.4GHz system.

 Is there anyone who has deployed the 3 Ghz gear from Ubnt and could 
 recommend which model of CPE and if there anything to know to avoid a steep 
 'learning curve' since we have never deployed anything from Ubiquiti until 
 now.

 Suggestions as to the best prices are most welcome too!

 Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP

[Steve Barnes]

You can do it from the command line but Why would you want to.  Throw a MTik in 
front Bridge the Bullet and Control it all on the MTik.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP


I think the newer software allows more...something about that was mentioned.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 3, 2013 1:10 PM, Matt Hoppes 
mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
Are you talking about MAC ACL?  Yes, use something other than the AP to
manage your clients... or depending on why you are doing MAC ACL, switch
to use WPA2 encryption.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312

On 7/3/13 1:08 PM, Greg Osborn wrote:
 Bridge it and us a Mikrotik router for ACL

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *~NGL~
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:53 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP

 How do I add more than 32 Client on a Bullet2 HP. At 32 the add button
 is greyed out.

 Thanx'

 NGL



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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

[Steve Barnes]

I am to the point that I believe the only way to block all torrents is to turn 
the internet off.  So many are even using port 80 now.  You can do packet 
inspection and help out if on a MT but not sure on a UBNT.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

Can I block all Torrents using the Ubiquiti ERLite-3 ?
Thanx
NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

[Steve Barnes]

+1   Yeah since I went to their home page an it said nothing about DHS Iwas not 
inclined to input.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Richard Strittmatter
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

Rick,

If you have a contact, yes, it would probably be in our best interest to find a 
little background on these emails. DHS, and requirement in the same email, 
requesting contact
info, doesn’t give me that warm fuzzy feeling..

Call me paranoid, but I don’t feel comfortable with blanket information 
gathering for no good reason.

Richard


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:41 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

I don’t believe I met Paula Denbow at WISPAmerica, but I did help her Admin 
Asst. get her registered.  American Roamer joined WISPA in July 2009.  They 
changed their name to Mosaik a few years ago and dropped membership for a year. 
 They just rejoined as a Vendor Member a few months ago.  I did have a 
conference call with a few of the team before they rejoined.  They do a lot of 
demographic type mapping and statistical evaluation of industries.  I wish I 
could remember more, but my mind is fried with WISPAmerica last week.  If you 
guys want, I will reach out to Paula and express your concerns about this 
letter.  Maybe she can give me a better explanation so I can relay it back to 
the list.

Where there is a Wisp, there is a 
way!http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
rharn...@wispa.orgmailto:rharn...@wispa.org
adm...@wispa.orgmailto:adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

Mosaic was at Wispamerica.  Who/what are they?


On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.commailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
 wrote:
phishy phishy phishy
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Adam Greene 
maill...@webjogger.netmailto:maill...@webjogger.net wrote:
Anyone else receive a “Law Enforcement Contact Verification” email from Mosaik 
Solutions (formerly American Roamer) requesting our company’s “organizational 
contacts responsible for interacting with Homeland Security and other law 
enforcement agencies, as is required of us by the US Department of Homeland 
Security”?

Seems strange to me that a private company would contact me out of the blue, 
implying that they are an official intermediary of the US Government.

I’m not liking it … almost sounds like a phishing scheme.

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Re: [WISPA] Siklu Eband -finally affordable

[Steve Barnes]

When you get into 80 GHz don't you have to worry about Oxygen absorption of the 
signal.


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Siklu Eband -finally affordable

Wow!

(partially because of the price drop, but mostly because I haven't seen Tom 
post in forever, welcome back)

I haven't really studied up on 80GHz stuff, but it is my understanding that you 
don't have to worry about rain fade, and you have 10GHz of spectrum to use 
which should ease co-location issues.

On 04/04/2013 09:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Its been ages since I've posted, butthis advertisement surely caught my eye.

Siklu Eband radios (licenced light) for sub $3500 per link.  FINALLY !!!  We 
can afford to start using this 70G spectrum.

Some may say not that exciting, considering 24Ghz products have already hit 
that price mark and functionality, and can go 3x the distance.
But, I say its exciting, thats one ambitious price drop from where other 80Ghz 
products have been priced at ($30k), historically 2-4x over priced compared to 
60Ghz equivellent  product, just because of the uniqueness to license 80Ghz and 
slight increase in range. Its nice to see someone finally do it, after I've 
been screaming for it for the last 10 years.

Anyway... anyone use the product yet and have feedback?



Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: ~NGL~mailto:n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:55 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Bullet M5HP

What kind of throughput can I expect with a pair of Bullet M5's PTP with 24 DBI 
Grids and pure LOS at 2-5 miles?
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Re: [WISPA] US and Worldwide Versions

[Steve Barnes]

They do not match the FCC rules for the US UNII bands.  They are the same 
radios just not locked down correctly.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WINhttp://www.rcwifi.com/
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] US and Worldwide Versions

What are the differences between Nanabridge US and Worldwide versions?
Are the Worldwide versions usable in the US?
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Farewell and good luck to you all!!!

[Steve Barnes]

Good luck 

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:30 PM
To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] Farewell and good luck to you all!!!

It is with a heavy heart I send this email to you all to let you know I am 
moving on from my current employment and even this industry to the next step in 
my career. I've been a part of this group for 8.5 years and I've enjoyed being 
a part of the discussions (usually more passive) and observing and 
participating in growing the community we all love. A large majority of you 
I've probably never met, but we may have brushed shoulders at a WISPA shows, or 
others. I want to thank each and every one of you for your continued 
participation in this industry and I hope it continues to grow by leaps and 
bounds. You are all an inspiration and example of what a grass roots 
organization can do when determined and led by fantastic people.

The next step in my career is taking me to Raleigh (from Central Florida) into 
a pre-sales solutions engineer position for data center products. I'm excited 
for this next BIG step in life as it will be a BIG change for me, not only 
professionally but personally as well.

If any of you want to keep in touch, please email me directly before next 
Friday and I'll be happy share my personal email address with you.

Again, thank you to all of you and good luck in your future endeavors!

Dylan
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

[Steve Barnes]

I would expect that her would be some side lobe interference.  If they were 
more like 40 Degrees then you would probably be fine.  But 11 is really close.  
What Kind of distances from A to B and A to C.  The closer the better, the 
further its going to get more tricky.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

Hi All

I was wondering what is your experience on Airfiber. In particular my question 
is if the following scenario could work or not work in your opinion/experience

On tower at LocationA there are two Airfiber pointing at the same direction 
LocationB and LocationC, more or less.
On the tower at LocationA, the two airfibers are mounted at let's say
1-2 meters distance (horizontal and vertical) and 10 degrees of difference in 
the 2 directions LocationB and LocationC.
LocationB and LocationC are two other towers both pointing at LocationA.

I am wondering if at 24Ghz I could see some interference or not , in this 
situaitons

Thank you in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

[Steve Nedolast]

As well as samsung recently.

Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection
TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that
capacitor issue...

You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well.  Two of the
big boys in electronics.

Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier s
you.

Live and learn.

--


On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. 


Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why
would they be any different?  That wouldn't make any sense and would go
against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. 


Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to
get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to
your distributor who batches them back to Latvia.  With Ubiquiti, being
US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one. 


Support?  You must have a secret number for MT support. The only way I
know to get support on MT is to go to the MT forums where you'll get
beat up... And heaven forbid you find a bug.you'll get tarred and
feathered. And certainly no discussion of competitors products on their
forums because that would be a bad thing.   I think it speaks worlds
that MT uses sometimes come over to the Ubiquiti forum to get help 
and people help them!


Ubiquiti has phone support, a very active FRIENDLY forum. When was the
last time you saw a MT firmware developer on the forum answering
questions?


And finally.the Ubiquiti router doesn't blow caps after being in
service for a year. . Oh it wait  That issue was never
acknowledged was it?

Sent from my iPad


On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:35, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage.  You can't honestly
expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik.  Features are better in
Mikrotik.  Price doesn't have a huge gap between them. 


Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when they
haven't even started shipping.  Unless you got a beta unit or
something, which is probably not the same product that you'd buy from a
distributor.


Simple question:  What does the Ubiquiti router have over my Mikrotik? 
Now what's the answer...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes
mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:

Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things?  Many of us have
had them in heavy production without issue for months. 

Sent from my iPad


On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Build a Win ME machine.  Put it on some batteries in the corner.  Get
your 9 mo uptime.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:

Do you have anything to base that on?

I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without missing a
beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+ months ago.

Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to fill if they plan on unseating
Mikrotik, but give them a couple years and I think they'll be alright.
I likely won't use the first generation in production.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:56:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router



I have no reason to buy them at all. They're going to be less reliable
than Mikrotik (which is really really bad) and not be as good software
wise. Where does this device fit?


Their ad suggests it is to replace a Cisco. Ya right.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Mike Hammett  wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:


That's an awfully bold statement. How come?



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- Original Message -
From: Christian Palecek  christ...@cybernet1.com 
To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 4:30:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

I wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless smartphone

Jon Auer  j...@tapodi.net  wrote:

Streakwave is supposedly shipping orders placed back when it was
announced.
Mine hasn't arrived yet :-(
On Jan 8, 2013 12:57 PM, Steve Barnes  st...@pcswin.com  wrote:

 That’s the new UBNT Edge Router line. I was not aware that they have
 actually shipped to general public yet. 

 ** **

 UBNT is trying to get into the Router market as well. Time will
tell.

 ** **

 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

[Steve Nedolast]

A bulge is better.

Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good as a schematic.

Maybe. But I wouldn't use that line until at least the third date ;-)
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  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router


A trusted supplier also has suppliers who have suppliers.  We had over
a dozen Princeton monitors that all quit within 6 months of each other
after 4 years.  As they piled up, one of our engineer-programmers had
an epiphany that it might be one common problem…looking at the stack of
monitors 6’ high.  It was caps, of course.  

   

Opening them up, you could see the bulge in the top of one or two caps.
There were 4 or 5 of the same kind and one or the other were blown in
the first 3.  He got to the point where he could fix a monitor in 8
minutes…and we got them all back.  If you’re lucky, a bulge is as good
as a schematic.

   

This time it wasn’t the supplier.  They were all running a volt or two
above the rating.  It was the designer.

   

  . . . j o n a t h a n

   

   

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Nedolast
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 5:04 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

   

  As well as samsung recently.

  Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

BTW, as a electronics teck, who still repairs DLP and Rear Projection
TV's as a hobby, MikroTik ain't the only people who got bit by that
capacitor issue...

You can add Thompson and Mitsubishi to the list as well.  Two of the
big boys in electronics.

Like UBNT with the ToughCable, sometimes your trusted supplier s
you.

  Live and learn.

  --



  On 1/9/2013 8:02 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

   Ok. Now that I'm on a larger device than my phone let me elaborate. 

 

Yes. Beta units are the same as what are shipping to distributors. Why
would they be any different?  That wouldn't make any sense and would go
against every previous beta Ubiquiti has ever done. 

 

Being in Latvia RMAs with MT are a pain in the rear and take months to
get completed - usually involving sending it direct yourself or back to
your distributor who batches them back to Latvia.  With Ubiquiti, being
US based, you just send the device back to SJ and you get a new one. 

 

Support?  You must have a secret number for MT support. The only way I
know to get support on MT is to go to the MT forums where you'll get
beat up... And heaven forbid you find a bug.you'll get tarred and
feathered. And certainly no discussion of competitors products on their
forums because that would be a bad thing.   I think it speaks worlds
that MT uses sometimes come over to the Ubiquiti forum to get help 
and people help them!

 

Ubiquiti has phone support, a very active FRIENDLY forum. When was the
last time you saw a MT firmware developer on the forum answering
questions?

 

And finally.the Ubiquiti router doesn't blow caps after being in
service for a year. . Oh it wait  That issue was never
acknowledged was it?

Sent from my iPad


On Jan 8, 2013, at 22:35, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

I'm not bitter, I just don't see their advantage.  You can't honestly
expect support to exceed that of Mikrotik.  Features are better in
Mikrotik.  Price doesn't have a huge gap between them. 

   

Not exactly sure how you've had them running for months when they
haven't even started shipping.  Unless you got a beta unit or
something, which is probably not the same product that you'd buy from a
distributor.


Simple question:  What does the Ubiquiti router have over my Mikrotik? 
Now what's the answer...




  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Matt Hoppes
mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:

Wow, josh. Why are you so bitter towards these things?  Many of us have
had them in heavy production without issue for months. 

  Sent from my iPad


On Jan 8, 2013, at 21:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Build a Win ME machine.  Put it on some batteries in the corner.  Get
your 9 mo uptime.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 8, 2013 8:56 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:

Do you have anything to base that on?

I have both MT and UBNT devices that have been up without missing a
beat since they last had firmware upgraded 9+ months ago.

Now I know UBNT will have big shoes to fill if they plan on unseating
Mikrotik, but give them a couple years and I think they'll be alright.
I likely won't use the first generation in production.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

[Steve Barnes]

That's the new UBNT Edge Router line.  I was not aware that they have actually 
shipped to general public yet.

UBNT is trying to get into the Router market as well.  Time will tell.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

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Of ~NGL~
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

Anyone have any experience with this router?
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Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

[Steve Barnes]

I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know that 
I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable that will 
fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios and go one 
with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I 
would put it out.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead 
ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the cable in 
short runs 15ft, and are finding more and more places it was used as those 
sites fail.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:
 Hi All,

 it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time 
 ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.

 It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same 
 site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...

 Any comment?

 Thank you

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Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Steve Barnes]

II was told NO!! 27VDC

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v?

Greg
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves 
jree...@18-30chat.netmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side,
the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from
the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo 
adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote:
 It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree
 I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel
 segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the
 installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will
 work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery
 cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from
 12v will be negligible

 So this is how it would be:
 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries
 connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel
 segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the
 load connected to the charge controller at 24v

 What do you think?

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
 kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

 Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8.  If it blew up then
 there was probably a short somewhere.

 -Kristian


 On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote:

 Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right
 I will check though they swear that they did


 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 What voltage were the batteries spitting out?  They charge at 27v but
 without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging.
 If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not
 that the voltage was too high.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
 adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What's your typical config for the NSM5?
 Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no
 charger connected just battery) and it fried good

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
 kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

 We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V.
 The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power
 on with 27V.  Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage
 protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls.

 -Kristian


 On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged,
 it's usually 27v.

 I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could
 reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
 adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Aha, thanks
 That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk
 I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v
 regulated power

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Yes you will.  The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt
 won't like.  You'll need to clean the ~18-27v from the batteries to 24v.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
 adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Need help,
 I'm looking to deploy a UBNT NSM5 powered by a 24v solar supply.
 Does anyone have experience with this? The data sheet shows that it
 requires a 24v supply however the POE injector supplied is 15v, do I 
 need

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Steve Barnes]

I believe it was Matt Hardy and Then was told the same when I went to AirMax 
Certification classes.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Can you reveal your source?

-Kristian
On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
II was told NO!! 27VDC

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v?

Greg
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves 
jree...@18-30chat.netmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side,
the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from
the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo 
adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com wrote:
 It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree
 I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel
 segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the
 installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will
 work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery
 cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from
 12v will be negligible

 So this is how it would be:
 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries
 connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel
 segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the
 load connected to the charge controller at 24v

 What do you think?

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
 kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

 Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8.  If it blew up then
 there was probably a short somewhere.

 -Kristian


 On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote:

 Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right
 I will check though they swear that they did


 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 What voltage were the batteries spitting out?  They charge at 27v but
 without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging.
 If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not
 that the voltage was too high.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
 adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What's your typical config for the NSM5?
 Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no
 charger connected just battery) and it fried good

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
 kh...@fire2wire.commailto:kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

 We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V.
 The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power
 on with 27V.  Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage
 protection until 28V, but we've come across a few odd balls.

 -Kristian


 On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged,
 it's usually 27v.

 I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could
 reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
 adal...@gmail.commailto:adal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Aha, thanks
 That explains why I have a dead NSM5 on my desk
 I guess the charge controller is not very good at giving out 24v
 regulated power

 - - -
 Olufemi Adalemo
 M: +234-803-5610040tel:%2B234-803-5610040
 M: +234-809-8610040tel:%2B234-809-8610040
 f...@adalemo.commailto:f...@adalemo.com




 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Yes you will.  The batteries will probably be around 27v which Ubnt
 won't like.  You'll need to clean

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Steve Barnes]

Not to add an advertisement but Level 2 networking is one of the topics that we 
plan to hit on at WISPAPOLOOZA in the Technical Knowledge Exchange at 4:00 on 
Thursday the 25th. That is one of the point Gino wanted to bring up.  I will be 
moderating so if someone has other important Technical questions that might be 
a good session or the Technical Round table Tuesday evening from 7:45 till we 
go to bed.  Hope to see you all there.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Dustin Jurman
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

Hey Fred,  we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed 
links between MEF switches.  Rapid deployment with fiber forward design.

I think we have been through all configurations,  bridging, routing and layer2 
switching.  You could not hit the nail on the head any better here.

The advantages of this type of design include scaleability, performance and 
reduced opex.

DSJ

Dustin Jurman C.E.O
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 North Westshore BLVD suite 711
Tampa, Fl 33607
Building Better Infrastructure

On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein 
fgoldst...@ionary.commailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:

Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE 
has it's own public IP?

There could be one NAT, at the access point.

My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless network (but 
plan to), is to follow what is becoming standard wireline practice and do 
switching, not bridging, at layer 2.  Routing would then be lumped into one 
place, making it easier to manage.

The problem with small Linux-based systems (this includes both UBNT and MT) is 
that they don't tend to have switching documented or set up in the UI, even if 
it's possible.  Bridging is bad -- it was designed for orange hose Ethernet, 
and it passes broadcast traffic to everyone.  We invented this at DEC in the 
1980s and discovered how it doesn't scale too well -- we had a couple of 
thousand DECnet and IP nodes on a bridged LAN, and the background broadcast 
traffic level was 400 kbps.  This was a lot for systems to handle in 1991.  I 
was testing ISDN bridges and discovered how you can't just bridge that type 
of network across a 56k connection.  (I discovered the traffic when I first 
turned up the bridge.  I ended up isolating it behind a router, built from an 
old VAX.  At DEC, we built everything ouf of VAXen.)

Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and ATM do, and now Carrier Ethernet is 
the big thing for fiber.  It uses the VLAN tag to identify the virtual circuit; 
the MAC addresses are just passed along.  Since it's connection-oriented (via 
the tag), it can have QoS assigned.  I think it's theoretically possible to tag 
user ports, route on tags and set QoS on RouterOS, but it's not obvious how to 
do it all.  Switching doesn't pass broadcast traffic; it provides more 
isolation and privacy than plain routing.  Mesh routing then works at that 
layer, transparent to IP.  It'll be interesting to set up.



On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is.  We run them 
in as routers, but do not NAT.  Same benefits others mentioned for routing, 
just one fewer NAT.  Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any 
good reason to NAT there.

On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote:

We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the 
customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be 
double natted when they hook up their routers?
Or does it not matter from the customer experience?

Thanks

--
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Senior Sales Technician
Ptera Wireless Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Steve Barnes]

All my customers are natted at the CPE unless they have Static IP. Actually we 
Nat at the AP as well. So they are triple Natted and I have lots of customers 
doing VPN's and every form of video and music and have never had one problem.

Pro's:
Customer can plug PC right into POE or switch and don't need a Router.
No worry if customer plugs router in backward of getting their DHCP on our AP
Customer has another level of security (yes its poor)

Con's:
Some items such as XBOX don't like it.
I can't remote login to their Router to see what they have done wrong.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Arthur Stephens
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:47 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the 
customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be 
double natted when they hook up their routers?
Or does it not matter from the customer experience?

Thanks

--
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Senior Sales Technician
Ptera Wireless Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
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Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

[Steve Barnes]

Ralph as you can see the issue is not how it works out of you network but how 
it works in your network.  You are getting every kind of answer depending on 
where the tester is and what the path looks like between you and them.  Like 
your text says this pretty close measures the speed on your network.

Looks good and good text.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

Oops  again. Sorry, I changed the text of the link but not the link.

http://brightlan.net/page26.html



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

Duh. Sorry.
http://brightlan.net/page26.htmlhttp://brightlan.net/page22.html


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

I have just finished installing Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would 
like some help testing it.
If you have a big pipe, it would be especially helpful to have your feedback.

Thanks very much

Ralph
Brightlan.net
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Re: [WISPA] ???

[Steve Barnes]

You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On 


Steve Barnes
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PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Rick Kunze
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ???

No list traffic since the 9th?

Rk

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Re: [WISPA] ???

[Steve Barnes]

Foul Ball... Sheesh Josh :)

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???

Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Rick Kunze
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ???
No list traffic since the 9th?

Rk

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Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

[Steve Barnes]

Tom Good to see you on the list.  I had thought you had fallen off the planet.  
I hope all is well.  I miss your insights.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Any WISPA members, WISPs or Contractors, serve Downtown Houston, TX?

If so, I'd like to refer an exciting profitable job to you, for an event.

(Originally, I was going to fly down and do it, using a 24Ghz link to a nearby 
building with Cogent Fiber. But unfortuantely I have a conflict I cant get out 
of, so my company will be unavailable to accept job)

If interested, reply to me ASAP, and I'll disclose details.
There is plenty of time before event date, but I could really use a reply today.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
301-515-7774

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Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

[Steve Barnes]

Would love to see you at WISPAPOLOOZA in Vegas. You would be a great speaker 
for several sessions.  Think about it and let me know we still have lots of 
sessions that need panelist.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Thanks.

I kind of did fall off the earth. My personal life got real ugly this year, so 
I had to refocus my time. But RapidDSL is still alive and doing well.
I hope to get back to WISPA more in the Fall.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Steve Barnesmailto:st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Tom Good to see you on the list.  I had thought you had fallen off the planet.  
I hope all is well.  I miss your insights.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Any WISPA members, WISPs or Contractors, serve Downtown Houston, TX?

If so, I'd like to refer an exciting profitable job to you, for an event.

(Originally, I was going to fly down and do it, using a 24Ghz link to a nearby 
building with Cogent Fiber. But unfortuantely I have a conflict I cant get out 
of, so my company will be unavailable to accept job)

If interested, reply to me ASAP, and I'll disclose details.
There is plenty of time before event date, but I could really use a reply today.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
301-515-7774


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Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

[Steve Barnes]

What do you mean by emergency broadcast? Free service to any customer for a 
while or actually send out a communicating broadcast. If so how do you expect 
others to receive it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

We just had a 8000 acre fire go through our area. Called the Wye Fire.  In fact 
it is only 75% contained at this time. I came within 1/2 mille of my main tower 
for that area. 450 families were forced to evacuate with very little notice/ 
The phone lines went down about 2 hours prior to evacuation. There is no cell 
phone or television  service in the area.
What I would like to do is do an emergency broadcast from the AP's to the 
clients. Is this possible?

NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

[Steve Barnes]

No you cannot force something on their normal screen.  But what Josh was 
stating was you can setup a Redirection so that any client that opens a browser 
and tries to go to a website will be redirected to a site of your choice.  Now 
that works good but that is all they would get.  Like Chris stated if you have 
a Mikrotik in the line you can enable the hotspot so that they would get a 
splash page for until the hit a continue button.  Neither are a very good 
option.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

I would like to send it out to all clients, to be seen on their monitor.
NGL
From: Steve Barnesmailto:st...@pcswin.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

What do you mean by emergency broadcast? Free service to any customer for a 
while or actually send out a communicating broadcast. If so how do you expect 
others to receive it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

We just had a 8000 acre fire go through our area. Called the Wye Fire.  In fact 
it is only 75% contained at this time. I came within 1/2 mille of my main tower 
for that area. 450 families were forced to evacuate with very little notice/ 
The phone lines went down about 2 hours prior to evacuation. There is no cell 
phone or television  service in the area.
What I would like to do is do an emergency broadcast from the AP's to the 
clients. Is this possible?

NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support

[Steve Barnes]

I am not sure it is.  I think the UBNT Noise Floor on their radios is not an 
actual detected floor but a calculation.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN / RC-WiFi

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support

why is the tranzeo noise floor lower than ubnt stuff?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:14 PM, David Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 A nod to the folks at Tranzeo who helped me unbrick a radio 180 ft in 
 the air. And I'm the one who bricked it. Ken spent hours helping, 
 reconfigured two systems there to replicate my configs. Found a way in 
 and sent me a how-to.
 
 Price upfront is not my only criteria for purchasing.  I still use the 
 TR5a series for backhauls where I only need 20MB links. Love working 
 with a -105 noise floor on the Tranzeo's on a busy tower instead of 
 Rockets and NanoBridges that sit at -85.
 
 YMMV, Dave
 
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 1995 Allison Lane, Suite 100
 Corydon, IN 47112
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 www.portative.com
 
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Re: [WISPA] Its Friday, Feels like Monday.

[Steve Barnes]

That's a nice photo shopped picture.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Its Friday, Feels like Monday.

http://i.imgur.com/hiGWy.jpg

Yikes
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one fat AP?

[Steve Barnes]

Mikrotik would be much better for what your talking about doing.  You are 
talking about a lot of router functions.  UBNT has some ability but is mostly a 
Wireless OS. Where Mtik has some wireless ability but is a RouterOS.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Rogelio
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Sam Tetherow
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one fat AP?

Thanks, Sam.  That is helpful.

FWIW, I'm currently researching the following things on UBNT...

1) How exactly is UAM done on all Ubiquiti radios?  Specifically, can an AP do 
the following...

a) white lists an offsite portal page (e.g. NNU or Aptilo)
b) redirects unauthorized users to this portal page?
c) after client pays on portal page, tell the AP UAM webserver on Ubiquiti 
radio to authenticate the user
d) pre-authenticate user MAC addresses that roam from other APs?

2) If a Ubiquiti device already services an SSID, how can it also serve a 
separate SSID that (a) does it's own UAM, and (b) does its own DHCP scope?  Can 
I do this existing hardware?  Or do I need to get a new radio for each new 
service?

Ideally, I'd like to stack services on existing UBNT networks, as well as 
roll out new ones...hence the reason I'm hoping for some sort of simple UAM 
overlay.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:
 This sounds pretty much like UniFi.  The UniFi units do not handle the 
 DHCP so you would need something handing out leases like a small Mikrotik box.
 You then add all the UniFi units that you want to be 'seamless' to the 
 same network in the unifi controller.  The unifi controller can be run 
 anywhere that is reachable from the UniFi units (the UniFi's do not 
 have to be reachable from the controller though, so then can be behind a NAT).



 On 07/04/2012 05:17 PM, Rogelio wrote:

 (Apologies if my questions are a bit naive, I'm still getting used to 
 how Ubiquiti does things. I've always done things the traditional way 
 in carrier networks, i.e. tunneling everything back to the core and 
 then breaking out traffic accordingly).

 I have some questions about Ubiquiti's ability to integrate with UAM.

 I have a scenario where I will have approximately 1000-2000 APs 
 scattered across different extremely rural areas with limited backhaul 
 space. These areas will likely NOT have the expertise to properly 
 babysit a core solution.

 In a past life, I've often just put in an access point with some sort 
 of DHCP solution and UAM redirect. This AP plugged directly into the 
 modem (DSL, cable, etc) and then got a public CPE address which I 
 could manage remotely. When customers hit the open SSID, they got a 
 spash page that was served by NetNearU (NetNearU.com), and when they 
 authenticated, their MAC was whitelisted on for the duration of time. 
 When they went to another AP that had a different DHCP server, their 
 MAC address was pre-authenticated and they appeared (from their perspective 
 to roam).

 A few questions on how I can do this The Ubiquiti Way.

 1) Does Ubiquiti do DHCP at the edge on each AP? If not, is there some 
 3rd party software I can use? I understand if this is not supported 
 and if I have to figure this out myself. That is not a problem.

 2) Does Ubiquiti have a way of vectoring the users off to this 
 database? I see that Chili has a plugin, and it looks relatively simple to 
 integrate.
 Does this still work with the current OS? Or have things changed?

 http://coova.org/node/3685

 3) Can someone recommend a hosted user database solution that is cheap 
 and reliable? If I had to roll it myself, what would you recommend?

 4) Do I have to use UniFi? Can I just script out some sort of login 
 script to quickly deploy and configure these thigns?

 This project (if it takes off) could be about 1000-2000 thousand APs 
 scattered across rural Africa and South America. I'm hoping for 
 limited equipment at the edge (things like battery backups and 
 customized antennas may be needed in some cases, but I'm hoping for limited 
 network equipment).

 If anyone has any ideas or would like for me to connect them with the 
 various decision makers, please feel free to contact me offline. I'm 
 not looking to make anything off this project, just donate a little 
 time in helping it get off the ground by asking the right questions.

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Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

[Steve Barnes]

Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks 
as well.  What was the subjects of yesterday.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

3 yesterday
a bunch the day before.

On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
Is this list dead?  I haven't received an email since 6/18.

Eric




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Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

[Steve Barnes]

Agreed I have an email of 6/15 from Gino  on High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 Mhz.  
That was the last I received. I did get 3 yesterday on the WISP list.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:24 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

Check the subjects.  I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven't had 
anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15).  I have them both 
forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it 
looked like there were 3 emails yesterday.


James Howard
LiteWire Internet Services, Inc.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks 
as well.  What was the subjects of yesterday.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
On Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

3 yesterday
a bunch the day before.

On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
Is this list dead?  I haven't received an email since 6/18.

Eric


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Re: [WISPA] EFT Billing

[Steve Barnes]

IPPAY we do it all but prefer to not do paper.  Charge extra for paper. Echeck 
and Credit card is what we push for.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ch...@mycountrylink.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] EFT Billing

How do you do your EFT (transfers directly from the subscriber's account) 
billing?  Is everyone using authorize.nethttp://authorize.net or IPPAY?  Or 
do most WISPs take Credit Card and Debit Cards only?


Chris Schipper
Service Manager
CountryLink LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Inventory control

[Steve Barnes]

I handle it with a single Line: Misc. install parts.  I hate Keeping up 
inventory!

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ch...@mycountrylink.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 5:07 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Inventory control

How are other WISPs managing their inventory?  We run AZOTEL’s SIMPLer, but its 
inventory controls only let us manage the APs and SMs.  What inventory programs 
are you using to manage: clamps, cable, connectors, nuts, bolts, zip ties, etc.?

Thanks for your help,
Chris Schipper
CountryLink LLC
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

[Steve Barnes]

What?? Its supposed to be designed after the look of High dollar European 
Luxury car head lights.  (Ok Yeah.. its ugly) However Functionality of separate 
transmit and receive antennas makes it that way.  I look forward to trying them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

That thing definitely wins the ugly antenna award...

-B-
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Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

[Steve Barnes]

My installers hate the SA or KPP Reflector with Nanostation installs at the top 
of a tv tower.  They much prefer the NanoBridge.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN / RC-WiFi

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Osborn
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

There is nothing easy about the nanobridge install.  100% PITA and the gain 
isn't very great.  10-12 db additional with a securalign or kpp.  The power is 
much lower on the bridges also.  600 mw vs 200-300.

On 3/23/2012 12:03 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:

trying to standardize on a single radio platform with the NSM2.



On 3/23/2012 10:58 AM, m...@tc3net.commailto:m...@tc3net.com wrote:

Why not just use Nanobridge? They work well, and are cheaper then NS2/Reflector 
combo, and easier to install, probably at the same gain.



Regards

Michael Baird



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To: Ubiquiti Users Groupubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, 
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:55:11 AM

Subject: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs



We have decided to standardize on the NanoStationM2 for all our 2.4Ghz

installs.  At this time, the installers use the lights on the radio for

alignment.  When using a reflector, they are complaining that they can't

see the lights on the radio to align it.  Besides allowing them to login

to the radio to check signal, what are you guys doing to properly align

the NSM radios when using a reflector?  Is it as difficult as my

installers are making it out to be?





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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Steve Barnes]

Blair, how is this setup working?  Is this a real Option for future 
deployments?  I have a grain Leg that would be perfect 25 homes within a 2 mile 
radius, however, light to moderate woods at 1 Mile almost 100% around the Gran 
leg.  Backhaul not a problem from top but without 900 I cant get 1 mile and 
only 3 house.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

opps!  V-pol on chain 1

On 3/13/2012 9:02 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
Reverse them.  Put the H-pol omni on chain 0 and the V-pol on chain.  Works 
much better.

Not sure why, but my field testing proved it.



On 3/13/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
We are looking into a situation like this, using a 900 Vertical Omni with on 
chain 0 and a Horizontal Omni on chain 1
with about 10 foot pf spacing between the two. I too would like to know if 
anyone else has done this..

Ryan

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jason Bailey 
j284...@yahoo.commailto:j284...@yahoo.com wrote:
What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and 
pointed it toward the majority of customers.

--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo 
edua...@webjogger.netmailto:edua...@webjogger.net wrote:

From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.netmailto:edua...@webjogger.net
Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM

I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket 
M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since 
we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available.

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

Thanks,
Eduardo
Webjogger Internet Services
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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Nope ended up not being so. Had to use another route to get in.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

You can SSH into a Tranzeo unit ? Which model, certainly not a CPQ, 5a, 6x 
variety ?

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:23:32 +

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the
gateway on a Tranzeo to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the 
gateway)  Trying to save a 25 Mile drive.

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Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

[Steve Barnes]

Options I see:
With the right SSL have the SBS2003 setup its own VPN's.
Setup a PPTP with Mtik and Make a step by step for the Employees to do it.
Cisco box and Clients (oh and bend over and take it like a man)

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:16 PM
To: Josh Luthman; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

They have multiple mapped drives that they are use to. So Dropbox would require 
a complete re-teach of the whole office. And I'd use PPTP and Mikrotik before I 
used Hamachi.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106

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From: Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

Are you open to other applications, like Dropbox?  Hamachi?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Eric Tykwinski 
eric-l...@truenet.commailto:eric-l...@truenet.com wrote:
If they have a OSX server or Linux server, the Apples could just use a simple 
SSH Tunnel.
A little AppleScript setup and it's just a click for the user.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300tel:610-429-8300
F: 610-429-3222tel:610-429-3222

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Remote Access

We've currently got a customer using the a sonicwall SSL VPN Netextender to VPN 
into their internal network. However, Lately it hasn't been working to well for 
them. And they are getting a few mac's in the mix these days. And sonicwall 
says the software doesn't work with macs and there is no plan to.

Now, I know I could do this with a simple mikrotik router and PPTP as pretty 
much everything under the sun supports pptp. But we were looking for something 
that might be a little more user friendly. Anyone have any suggestions.
The customer is just looking to gain internal access for things like windows 
filesharing..exchange..etc.. in a secure fashion.
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[WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

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General Manager
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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Never mind Guys we got it. Have a great weekend.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

EOIP to Subnet static ip on pcs, then used GUI.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo


Care to share the answer?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mar 9, 2012 2:49 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
Never mind Guys we got it. Have a great weekend.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Steve Barnes]

Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
Ubiquiti didn't?

Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2 Connection 
rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down to 3.3M with 45% 
CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid 48 MB 90% CCQ.  I 
have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all replaced in DEC due to ICE 
getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or two and Change to a Rocket with 
a new 120* sector. 

But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had 
good luck with the ones I've tried out here.

Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
Ubiquiti didn't?

I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had their 
stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the 
 same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.

 Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!

 I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's though.
 Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug

 Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had 
 good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Cc: wireless@wispa.org; ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE


 Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible 
 help at defeating noise.



 On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us wrote:

 I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity 
 Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the 
 clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.

 I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been 
 running in 802.11b mode previously.

 The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels 
 appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor 
 has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.

 At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to think straight.  
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thank you.

 --
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 Chief Engineer
 Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
 100 N Roland St, Suite B
 McBain, MI 49657

 Office: 231-825-2500
 Direct: 231-908-0033
 Fax: 231-908-0039
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Steve Barnes]

Sorry Guys I see you point and you would be right.  However, Our Installer was 
using a AirGrid not a Nanostation M2.  Airgrid actually gave better signal 
strength -65 as compared to the Tranzeo  -71 but the Tranzeo had much better 
Connection rate.  Last month had another customer complain off same AP that her 
speeds were terrible.  Got looking and same issue AP RX rate was 3.3.  Went out 
replaced a NSM2 with a standard NS2 connection rates went from 3.3 to 48/2 
(10Mhz Channel)  Install just told me he has had 3 more like that and wants to 
change the sector.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

I was thinking the same thing...

Regards,
Chuck

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
Ubiquiti didn't?

 Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2 Connection 
 rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down to 3.3M with 
 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid 48 MB 90% 
 CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all replaced in DEC 
 due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or two and Change to 
 a Rocket with a new 120* sector.

 But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.

 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
good luck with the ones I've tried out here.

 Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
 Ubiquiti didn't?

 I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had their 
 stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
 (509-982-2181tel:%28509-982-2181) 
 o...@odessaoffice.commailto:o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
 same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.

 Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!

 I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's though.
 Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug

 Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
 good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Hoppes 
 mhop...@indigowireless.commailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
 To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
 ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Cc: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org; 
 ubnt_us...@wispa.orgmailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE


 Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
 help at defeating noise.



 On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
 jdeb...@summitdigital.usmailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us wrote:

 I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
 Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
 clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.

 I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
 running in 802.11b mode previously.

 The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
 appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
 has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.

 At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to think straight.
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thank you.

 --
 Jay DeBoer

 Chief Engineer
 Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
 100 N Roland St, Suite B
 McBain, MI 49657

 Office: 231-825-2500tel:231-825-2500
 Direct: 231-908-0033tel:231-908-0033
 Fax: 231-908-0039tel:231-908-0039
 jdeb...@summitdigital.usmailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us

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Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race

[Steve Barnes]

Airmax off? 20Mhz Channel? Can you if you turn off WPA?

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General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Carl Shivers
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race

We have an Marathon next week and the organizers have asked if we can supply 
connectivity. I had a spare UB Rocket M2 with a 90 degree sector antenna 
waiting for another job, so I decided to use this.

Here is basics on our config.
Access Point
Bridge Mode
SSID LittleRockMarathon
WPA-PKIP
Static Management IP

This will sit behind a router, which has a static WAN and will dish out IPs via 
DHCP on the LAN side.

That's about it, but we can't connect our laptops to the ssid.

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Re: [WISPA] Air Control

[Steve Barnes]

If they are gray that means they are not connected. You can Sort By status.  
Highlight the disconnected ones, right click and hit connect/disconnect.  Enter 
the user and password and wait.  (of course this works if you have them all 
with the same user and pass) if not you will have to connect one at a time.

If the status light is orange then they are just off-line.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Air Control

On the All Devices Page. I have green dot on some of the Status indicators for 
that are on but not all. how do I set it so all devices that are online are 
green?
The devices are all Bullets.
Thanx
NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control

[Steve Barnes]

I though it may be red but my 42 screen up on the wall in the NOC makes it 
look more Orange.

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General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:05 PM
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Red is offline.

Haven't seen orange.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Steve Barnes 
st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote:
If they are gray that means they are not connected. You can Sort By status.  
Highlight the disconnected ones, right click and hit connect/disconnect.  Enter 
the user and password and wait.  (of course this works if you have them all 
with the same user and pass) if not you will have to connect one at a time.

If the status light is orange then they are just off-line.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Air Control

On the All Devices Page. I have green dot on some of the Status indicators for 
that are on but not all. how do I set it so all devices that are online are 
green?
The devices are all Bullets.
Thanx
NGL
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Re: [WISPA] No mail

[Steve Barnes]

I think the list has just been slow.

I got
4 emails on the 2nd
2 emails on the 3rd
3 on the 4th
1 on the 5t 
And 2 today

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I'm going to ditto this.  I've gotten no mail except this discussion, and 
normally I get much more.

Also am not getting the fiber list, even though I'm subscribed and have been 
told mail was sent there.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 2/6/12 10:27 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
 I only see about 3-4 per day.  I did get the ones about No Mail over
 the weekend.  Am I on B also?

 Eric

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:12 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] No mail

 Somehow your subscription was set to send no mail. I assume it was
 because of Bounced emails as the reason was (B). I think B = Bounced.

 It should be ok now.

 Rick

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Tim Kerns
 *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:25 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] No mail

 Rick,

 I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days.

 Come to think of it I didn't receive the usual you are subscribed
 to messages either.

 Tim Kerns

 CV-Access, Inc.





 
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Re: [WISPA] No mail

[Steve Barnes]

If we wanted to start the traffic flowing we could start a thread about how 
UBNT is better than Cambium, or what political party will help the wireless 
community out the best.  But lets not do something that stupid. :)


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Leroy Koglin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:45 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

Same number of messages received here also.

Leroy



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I think the list has just been slow.

I got
4 emails on the 2nd
2 emails on the 3rd
3 on the 4th
1 on the 5t
And 2 today

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I'm going to ditto this.  I've gotten no mail except this discussion, and 
normally I get much more.

Also am not getting the fiber list, even though I'm subscribed and have been 
told mail was sent there.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 2/6/12 10:27 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
 I only see about 3-4 per day.  I did get the ones about No Mail over 
 the weekend.  Am I on B also?

 Eric

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:12 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] No mail

 Somehow your subscription was set to send no mail. I assume it was 
 because of Bounced emails as the reason was (B). I think B = Bounced.

 It should be ok now.

 Rick

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Tim Kerns
 *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:25 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] No mail

 Rick,

 I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days.

 Come to think of it I didn't receive the usual you are subscribed 
 to messages either.

 Tim Kerns

 CV-Access, Inc.








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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

[Steve Barnes]

Does the M365 force AirMax?

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General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

 I have just completed testing and using a RocketM365 with a Nano365 with a 
 KPP reflector and I was able to get close to 16 megs!

5mhz channel?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
I load my 5 gig UBNT APS with 45 clients on a 10 meg channel and
they all are able to pull between 18 and 24 megs down at all times.  I do not 
think you have anything
to worry about even on a 5 meg channel.  I have just completed testing and 
using a RocketM365 with a Nano365 with a KPP reflector and
I was able to get close to 16 megs!




---Original Message---

From: Carl Shiversmailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net
Date: 1/17/2012 8:58:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65 APs; 1,3,5 
and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients we can get on 
each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of our customers would be in 
the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are purchasing the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits.








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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Re: Bandwidth Monitoring and Presentation

[Steve Barnes]

Didn't make it off list.  You get the DOOOHHH!  For the day.

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General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:17 PM
To: Kevin Battersby; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Re: Bandwidth Monitoring and Presentation

Kevin,

Wispmon can probably integrate with this and it has a customer portal page that 
allows a user to view daily updated usage. If you need a full Wisp Management 
platform ratehr than several pieces of cobbled together software, give us a 
shout and we can show you a demo.

Regards,

Cameron Crum
Wispmon.com
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Kevin Battersby 
ke...@battersby.netmailto:ke...@battersby.net wrote:

Greetings

We have been using Pmacct to gather bandwidth accounting information for some
time now. This is processed for our own use on a monthly basis.

Our current problem is customers requesting access to this information on a
regular basis throughout the month.

At the moment I believe we are looking at a completely custom job to get this
done.

My question is, what software might be available to do this presentation? Any
success stories?

--
Regards,
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[WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

[Steve Barnes]

I have a company that is going to deploy a WiFi Hotspot underneath a tower that 
I already have 4 UBNT M2 Sectors on.  The reason for the Deploy is they need to 
use hand barcode scanners over their whole Lot.  Luckily they plan to work with 
me on this situation and coordinate frequencies.  I have a stock of old Omni's 
that I have taken down, half are Horizontal and Half are vertical polarity.  
Since my AP's are dual pol that does not matter.  There however is generally 
less noise on Horizontal.  The hand held barcode readers give no spec as to how 
the internal antenna is oriented.  What would others recommendation.  I am 
using as high gain antenna as possible then turning down the transmit so the 
receive will be good both ways.  This will be covering about 4 acres.

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General Manager
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Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

[Steve Barnes]

Two basic reasons, I am on 10Mhz channel size and they want it all in-house for 
their security.  It's a  multimillion dollar company that turns normal gas and 
diesel delivery trucks to electric and there is allot of high tech tracking 
through the steps.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

why not just let them use your system for the scanners?

Everything will work better that way.
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Steve Barnesmailto:st...@pcswin.com
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:47 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

I have a company that is going to deploy a WiFi Hotspot underneath a tower that 
I already have 4 UBNT M2 Sectors on.  The reason for the Deploy is they need to 
use hand barcode scanners over their whole Lot.  Luckily they plan to work with 
me on this situation and coordinate frequencies.  I have a stock of old Omni's 
that I have taken down, half are Horizontal and Half are vertical polarity.  
Since my AP's are dual pol that does not matter.  There however is generally 
less noise on Horizontal.  The hand held barcode readers give no spec as to how 
the internal antenna is oriented.  What would others recommendation.  I am 
using as high gain antenna as possible then turning down the transmit so the 
receive will be good both ways.  This will be covering about 4 acres.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/




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Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs

[Steve Barnes]

Scottie, I have the same issue here in Indiana with one exchange in particular. 
 I have been in contact with the Indiana Utility Regulatory Committee.  They 
are in process of helping us.  They could not understand why we could port and 
have access to all other exchanges in the same rate center but not that one.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs

We just happen to fall into one of those 3.65Ghz protected areas! But I have 
heard that the local telco has something going on there too!

Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com
- Original Message -
From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs


 At 11/21/2011 11:18 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
Re-reading your posts brings me to another question.has any VOIP
carriers ever used cellular carriers numbers? Is it even possible?

 First, wrt the Livingston exchange, 931-397 and 931-403 belong to US
 Cellular; the latter is pooled (they're using the 7's).  Nextel has
 -871, pooled (using 6 and 7).  Oddly, US Cellular but not S-N says it
 subtends a Gaineborough tandem, which is Twin Lakes, but most Twin
 Lakes exchanges subtend Nashville.

 As to VoIP via cellular numbers, well, its sort of odd, but it might
 be possible.  The new rules may actually say something about this -- 
 there was a VoIP company affiliated with a wireless company that was,
 uh, alleged to have been laundering its LD calls via the cellular
 company in order to get the lower termination rates.  They deny it of
 course... but that may have been addressed in the intercarrier
 rules.  I haven't gotten through it all yet. (It's freakin' huge.)  I
 actually had a client that was a wireless company whose business
 included lots and lots of modems, way back when, so it's not
 unprecedented to have, uh, incidental non-wireless traffic go
 through a wirless feed.  And heck, put up one 3.65 GHz base station
 (if it's allowed there) and declare it CMRS, and you're a cellco too!

 There's one lawyer I know who sort of specializes in this sort of thing.

Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com
- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing 
ILECs


  Please explain about the Livingston exchange!!! I have been trying to
  break
  this barrier for almost 12 years.
 
  Scottie Arnett
  President
  Info-Ed, Inc.
  Electronics and More
  931-243-2101
  sarn...@info-ed.com
  - Original Message -
  From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing
  ILECs
 
 
  At 11/21/2011 09:29 PM, you wrote:
 The only other telcos/cellcos here that have local numbers are US
 Cellular
 and Verizon. None of the big VOIP carriers do, such as
 Vonage/Packet8/take
 your pick. They have NO Clec's here either.
 
  I like to think of that as a challenge. ;-)  The good news is that
  they use the Nashville tandem, not their own, so the traffic exchange
  can be indirect.
 
  But it's true that there are no CLECs with numbers in TLTC's
  area.  Powertel, US Cellular, VZW and Sprint Nextel are the only
  other carriers there, all mobile.  No Celina numbers, either, if it
  matters. But Livingston has pooled prefix codes available.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding

[Steve Barnes]

No. For a secondary radio or backup connection only.  You can't even control it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] MT interface bonding

Will bonding interfaces of 2 Rocket M5 Dish units result in full duplex 
transmission?  We are needing to increase the backhaul throughput of one of our 
links.  The obvious answer is to convert to a licensed full duplex unit  (which 
we plan to do) but in the meantime to get by will bonding interfaces fix our 
issue?  We are getting about 45-50 mbps duplex mode on a single unit (using the 
built in speed test), if we bond two we are assuming that we will see 
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Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

[Steve Barnes]

Being in eastern Indiana 35 Miles from fiber we are bandwidth poor.  Soon to 
change but until we have a better situation.

$39.99 plan 1M/256K 20Gig/month $2/gig overage
$59.99 plan 2M/512K 50Gig/month $2/gig overage
$79.99 plan 3M/1M 100Gig/month $2/gig overage
$99.99 plan 5M/1M Unlimited

Big MUST!!! You must have a method in place for your customers to see their 
usage.  Daily/Week/Month  and previous months.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of David Hannum
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage

What do you folks feel is excessive usage on your system?  And how do you 
deal with it?  Do you have bandwidth limits?  Where do you draw the line.  I 
have one residential sub  who month after month uses more bandwidth than the 
next 3-4 residential subs combined.  Last month, they used over 105GB.  Is this 
excessive?  The next top residential sub in the same month consumed 37GB (which 
in and of itself was 10GB higher than the next one).
With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . . .

Thoughts?

Kind Regards,
David Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC





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