Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Mark Nash wrote: Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). Hi Mark I was waiting for the wind to start. Was supposed to be about 8pm. At 8 pm I was outside looking up and seeing stars and the moon, wondering when is it gonna hit us. At 12.30 it was a little windy, some gusts, but not like earlier in the week. I think it was Tuesday night that we got a howling wind storm, probably the worst all season. It knocked out a temp mast I had on my house I was using for testing. We've had about 6 high wind storms this winter. It's been the 2nd rainiest winter I can remember since moving to the coast in 90. Usually it's 50's to 60's and sunny in the afternoon most days. This year there has been hardly any sunny days. Anyways, didn't really have any damage from wind, but the electrical outages have been a pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Mark, I have used a 6 gallon portable gas tank that is normally used with a small outboard boat motor. You can purchase from a boat dealer and it even included a fuel gauge in the filler cap. Works like a charm. Just make sure that you position the can above the engine. Should allow you to run 10-12 hours on a full tank. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Thanks Travis. I know that the Coleman is not 'computer-friendly' but I haven't had a problem yet with it powering our equipment...just the problem with the UPS. How'd you rig you gas can...that IS the big problem with these smaller-wattage generators is the tank size. Got photos? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:50:36 To:WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Hi, Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel line directly to the fuel line on the generator. It was about $10 worth of parts (including the 5 gallon can) and the generator will now run for 24-26 hours straight on 5 gallons of gas. Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: > Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - > heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). > > I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. > They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at > the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many > different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified > that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site > with a generator. > > My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's > the scenario I want: > > 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get > geared up. > 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES > CHARGE ON UPS. > 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. > 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on > batteries. > 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. > > Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips > because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had > power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site > was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans > in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of > driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. > > I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power > sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the > generator. So I think I need cleaner power. > > Recommendations? > > (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta > go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the > UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
If you plug something into the surge only outlet on the UPS then when the power goes down intermapper or whatever you use will let you know - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS > Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you > guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). > > I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They > keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I > put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events > without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery > power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. > > My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the > scenario I want: > > 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared > up. > 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE > ON UPS. > 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. > 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on > batteries. > 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. > > Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I > think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a > site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority > because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to > a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very > very old very very very quickly. > > I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity > level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I > think I need cleaner power. > > Recommendations? > > (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and > take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers > down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Try adjusting the frequency (speed) of the generator. This may get it to work with your APC Smart UPS. - Original Message - From: "Mark Nash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Hi, We just took the side panels off and got the size of fuel line we needed. We went to Ace Hardware and purchased 4 feet of hose and a connector. We just unhooked the line from the existing tank and hooked it to the line going into the 5 gallon can. We put a couple flat washers on the bottom of the line in the can to keep it on the bottom, dropped the line thru the normal can opening, and then set the can on top of two cinderblocks. Two pulls on the generator (to fill up the line with fuel) and it starts and runs. :) Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: Thanks Travis. I know that the Coleman is not 'computer-friendly' but I haven't had a problem yet with it powering our equipment...just the problem with the UPS. How'd you rig you gas can...that IS the big problem with these smaller-wattage generators is the tank size. Got photos? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:50:36 To:WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Hi, Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel line directly to the fuel line on the generator. It was about $10 worth of parts (including the 5 gallon can) and the generator will now run for 24-26 hours straight on 5 gallons of gas. Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Thanks Travis. I know that the Coleman is not 'computer-friendly' but I haven't had a problem yet with it powering our equipment...just the problem with the UPS. How'd you rig you gas can...that IS the big problem with these smaller-wattage generators is the tank size. Got photos? -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:50:36 To:WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Hi, Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel line directly to the fuel line on the generator. It was about $10 worth of parts (including the 5 gallon can) and the generator will now run for 24-26 hours straight on 5 gallons of gas. Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: > Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - > heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). > > I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. > They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at > the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many > different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified > that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site > with a generator. > > My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's > the scenario I want: > > 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get > geared up. > 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES > CHARGE ON UPS. > 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. > 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on > batteries. > 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. > > Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips > because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had > power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site > was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans > in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of > driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. > > I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power > sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the > generator. So I think I need cleaner power. > > Recommendations? > > (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta > go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the > UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). > > Mark Nash > Network Engineer > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Correct. -Original Message- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 12:47:59 To:"'WISPA General List'" Subject: RE: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Are you saying you don't have solar/wind power at this site and you constantly shuttle gas? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 2/3/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Hi, Is your generator a "computer friendly" type? We have both a Honda and Yamaha 1000 generators that deliver clean power (you can plug electronics into them directly without problems). Those will charge the UPS. The other thing we did was hook up a 5 gallon gas can with fuel line directly to the fuel line on the generator. It was about $10 worth of parts (including the 5 gallon can) and the generator will now run for 24-26 hours straight on 5 gallons of gas. Travis Microserv Mark Nash wrote: Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Are you saying you don't have solar/wind power at this site and you constantly shuttle gas? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Generator --> UPS Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.1/250 - Release Date: 2/3/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Generator --> UPS
Winds in my area knocked power out early this morning (GEORGE R - heard you guys had 100mph gusts on the Oregon coast...how'd it go?). I power all my WiPOPs with an APC UPS (Smart-UPS 700) and grid power. They keep the sites up for 2-3 hours depending on equipment load at the site. I put in a SNMP card (AP9617 - can e-mail upon many different UPS events without having a SNMP server). I get notified that the site is on battery power...buys me time to get to the site with a generator. My goal is to have a generator that I can plug the UPS into. Here's the scenario I want: 1: Power out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. Get geared up. 2: Hook up generator to UPS. (here's the important part) BATTERIES CHARGE ON UPS. 3: UPS Battery gets fully charged. I get notified 'fully charged'. 4: Fuel in generator runs out. I get notified that UPS is running on batteries. 5: Get fuel to site within 1-2 hours & restart generator. GOTO 3:. Site never goes down and I don't have to make unnecessary trips because I think the generator might be low on fuel. Last year we had power down at a site down for 2.5 weeks. Problem was that the site was a last priority because the problem was past any homes with humans in them. Shuttling gas to a generator twice a day for 3 hours of driving for 2.5 weeks got very very very old very very very quickly. I've got a generator now (Coleman 1850W). Even with the power sensitivity level set to low on the UPS's, it they won't run on the generator. So I think I need cleaner power. Recommendations? (power just came back up to my site...got notified by the UPS...gotta go and take the equipment off the generator and plug it into the UPS...customers down for 60 seconds while the Trango backhaul boots). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/