[WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
Quick alert to those who are not aware... back when I was running my business on T1 lines, I just assumed that when I was ready, I could order a T3 and upgrade my bandwidth. Not so. Just because you can get a T1 doesn't mean you can get a T3 without huge buildout costs. I was quoted $400,000 dollars to upgrade to a T3. I managed to get around it because otherwise ATT would have had to install a high count copper line down my road to be able to keep offering POTS service here, so I got lucky, and had a free install. But you may not be that fortunate. I just thought if I posted this, it might give some people a heads up to start planning for more bandwidth when you're coming close to needing t3 type capacity. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Health Insurance
It seemed to me like when I was paying for health insurance for my family it was a huge waste of money. I'm from England. In England, if you buy insurance for something it covers you. Over here in the US it always seems to cover you UP TO a certain dollar amount, IF the wind is blowing in the right direction. So it never takes all the risk away. Same with car insurance, house insurance, health insurance, etc. Another thing is, if you go to hospital, and you pay cash for your treatment, it costs a fraction of what they would have charged to the insurance company. And another problem was, since I was only paying about a hundred dollars a month for coverage, the insurance covered only 80% of my treatment, AFTER the first $5,000 and only did that if it was in network. So with insurance, I'd end up paying maybe 20% of $100,000 instead of 100% of $40,000 or something plus the $5000 deductable. I don't know the percentages or the numbers, but it seemed like it was a whole lot of expense for only a very small amount of coverage. I had a friend who had a triple heart bypass. They gave him the bill for loadsa money, assuming he would pay it over a long period of time. When he said he was paying cash outright, it cost a tiny fraction of the amount the bill was for. So, all things considered, it seemed to me like I was paying a lot of money for almost no coverage. So what we did was, instead of paying a hundred bucks a month to our health insurance, we paid a hundred bucks a month into our savings account, to cover emergency costs. The great thing about this is, the savings cover ANY emergency, not just a broken bone, but if a tornado tears the house down, or car crash or getting sued or whatever. Seems like health insurance was approximately equal to throwing our money down the drain. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
I suppose you could stick all your equipment at the top, along with a switch in an enclosure, and you could have a backhaul radio shooting down to the shack on the ground :) Then you only have to run a large bell wire up the tower for DC power. Cheers, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field?
SSDs typically have lower power consumption than HDDs and, as a consequence, laptop manufacturers are starting to embrace them as optional replacements to standard HDDs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Oh, make sure if you get a net book that is has a REAL mechanical hard drive in them. Some have a solid state drive and not only do they use more power but they die quicker. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven McGehee Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netbook/Mini for the field? Because we deploy 100Mbps+ links. Yeah looking into EEE Seashells -- look good, just verifying the GigE part. Thanks. On 9/2/2010 11:59, Josh Luthman wrote: Dell Mini? Asus EEE? Why do you need GigE? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Steven McGeheel...@qx.net wrote: Hey guys, We are looking to get a pair of new Laptop/Netbook computers for use in the field. These would be in for installs, dispatching, troubleshooting, speed testing, all of that general use stuff. We aren't looking for a lot -- just a GigE NIC, 10.1 or bigger screen (one that works well in the sun is a plus), Windows 7, 3-6 hour battery is fine, and 80GB or so of HDD is plenty. Right now we use Dell Latitude D-630s, but they're heavier and larger than we really need. We're thinking about a Dell 2100 or 2110 right now (which I need to verify has GigE). If you have a certain portable you like to use, I would be interested in hearing your recommendations. Thank you in advance! -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
I think the solution is to cap the connections to x Gb per month. Our plans start at 30Gb of transfer per month. Then charge per Gb after that. People's usage is just going to go up and up, with more and more streaming video, torrents, gaming etc. My opinion is, eventually you will NOT be able to keep up trying to provide unlimited service, unless you have sky high prices. I think caps and metered usage is inevitable, even for the big guys. Thanks, Roger On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Only 20 connections? I've found 75 to be a good number (Butch put that in place ages ago and I've been the only person in 3 years to get up to that). I'm looking at an SM now from a customer that called in this morning...they're using 43 connections. It's one (wireless) laptop on a Linksys into the SM. Each connection is port 80 or 443 except one - 4500 (Cisco VP?) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: They can do what they want, with the following caveats: They don't open more than 20 connections. The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if the thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed. I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the pipe at the peril of others. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough* But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads so they don't piss off thier neighbors. My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house... Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading movies etc. He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group! (whoops! We sure felt bad) ryan On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Even though our AUP TOS does not allow it, I have a customer demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I being over zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
What do you mean when you say The problem is getting there. I have always disclosed my transfer limits on my website http://g5i.net/internet.php Up until recently, I have not even begun to enforce them. But now it is necessary. I have started IP accounting on my Cisco border router and am collecting the data into a mysql database. I will start to invoice the customers who go over. The way I look at it, these are pretty big limits, and those handful of people who are going over all the time, will either leave my network, because they don't like paying the overages, which will be a good thing because I'm making a loss on them anyway. OR They will reduce their usage, OR they will pay me more. Win, Win, Win. Thanks, Roger On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:21 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I agree and have been saying that since 1997! The problem is, getting there. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: I think the solution is to cap the connections to x Gb per month. Our plans start at 30Gb of transfer per month. Then charge per Gb after that. People's usage is just going to go up and up, with more and more streaming video, torrents, gaming etc. My opinion is, eventually you will NOT be able to keep up trying to provide unlimited service, unless you have sky high prices. I think caps and metered usage is inevitable, even for the big guys. Thanks, Roger On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Only 20 connections? I've found 75 to be a good number (Butch put that in place ages ago and I've been the only person in 3 years to get up to that). I'm looking at an SM now from a customer that called in this morning...they're using 43 connections. It's one (wireless) laptop on a Linksys into the SM. Each connection is port 80 or 443 except one - 4500 (Cisco VP?) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: They can do what they want, with the following caveats: They don't open more than 20 connections. The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if the thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed. I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the pipe at the peril of others. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough* But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads so they don't piss off thier neighbors. My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house... Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading movies etc. He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group! (whoops! We sure felt bad) ryan On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Even though our AUP TOS does not allow it, I have a customer demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I being over zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] -48vdc Gigabit switch
Anyone heard of a gigabit switch that runs on -48vdc that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Only need a few ports, 8-16 would do. preferably rackmountable. I can find plenty of inexpensive gigabit switches, but they normally don't list their power supply voltage, or they list 110v Another option is maybe a 12 or 24v and I can get a DC-DC converter. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] -48vdc Gigabit switch
An arm and a leg would be thousands. $400 is within reason. I'm running directly off batteries with negative earth like the telco. Not sure if I could use a POE switch or not, but I'll check that out. Thanks. Thanks, Roger On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.comwrote: Define arm and a leg. If I understand correctly, The HP Procurve 1810G-24 and the 1810G-8 (24 and 8 port respectively) Can be powered by POE, If that is a option for you. I think its around $400. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 -- *From*: Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com *Sent*: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:20 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] -48vdc Gigabit switch Anyone heard of a gigabit switch that runs on -48vdc that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Only need a few ports, 8-16 would do. preferably rackmountable. I can find plenty of inexpensive gigabit switches, but they normally don't list their power supply voltage, or they list 110v Another option is maybe a 12 or 24v and I can get a DC-DC converter. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
We use Ipacco http://ipacco.sourceforge.net/ This collects the IP accounting data from our border cisco router(s) and puts it into a central MySQL database. But it makes a HUGE database with lots more data than we need that is really slow to query. So we wrote a PHP script that runs every few minutes and summarizes the data into a smaller database. We have a page where we can add subscribers names/IP addresses, and bandwidth limits, and it will start tracking them. Haven't started billing based on this info yet. Rather we're planning to throttle the customers who continually are breach their limits. Thanks, Roger G5 Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth
What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, won't they just undercut it by a little just to get your business? Seems like a strange way of doing business to ask what you're paying for something before giving you a quote. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth
Thanks for your replies everyone, there's good feedback in this thread. Regarding Faisal's comment: Additionally, if you are paying in the range of $1500 to $3000, then it would also be worth-while to consider purchasing a 'Gig E' transport to a Carrier Neutral Faclility ( eg. 56 Marrietta in ATL, or Dallas, or VA etc), and then picking up Bandwidth of your choice either directly or in-directly) I am paying above that range, but most of it is for the local loop of our 20 meg fractional DS-3. Who would I go to to get a circuit as you describe, surely it would have to be my local phone company who is already charging me a lot more money for a lot less circuit? How can I get around this? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel
My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20 But it didn't have a screen :( On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :) My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] making money from voip
Perhaps I should re-phrase the question... If I re-sell Vox service, do I still need to file FCC Form 499-A Registration, Quarterly FCC Form 499-Q, Annual FCC Form 499-A, E-911 stuff, etc? Do I still have to collect and pay fees/taxes to government? Or is that all taken care of by Vox? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Everything we use is branded in our name including the LOA's and the portal. Vox handles everything up front during the setup process. Since 95% of our lines are ported from other companies it was important for this to all have our company name. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: If you use VOX, do you still have to do all the FCC stuff, since you are not the provider? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Tried Telemedium. They were horrible. As a matter of fact they are out of business now. We use VOX. They are a wispa member. I have yet to get a call from anyone complaining about voice quality b Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Whose service do you use? Who if anyone did you try before current provider? Thanks- Ryan On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Our approach is white label to business only bundled with our Internet usually and other Internet outside of our coverage. We include email, webhosting, data backup with all packages to make us sticky. Also we definitely aren't the cheapest. We went that route in the beginning but sales didn't take off until we raised our price. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Ryan Goldberg rgoldb...@compudyne.net wrote: Curious what models you guys are working. Hosted PBX, white label, etc. What approach for SMB v. residential v enterprise. And so on. TIA Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Commercial Service Needed- Ltttlerock WA (near Olympia)
http://www.aristotle.net/ They provide service through skypilot equipment and cover quite a bit of Little Rock. I'm not affiliated with them. Thanks, Roger On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:23 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: Can anyone help? 122200 Bordeaux Rd Littlerock (Little Rock?) WA 98556 Need to find ASAP. Thanks Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Commercial Service Needed- Ltttlerock WA (near Olympia)
Sorry, wrong state, I read over that. Please ignore. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.aristotle.net/ They provide service through skypilot equipment and cover quite a bit of Little Rock. I'm not affiliated with them. Thanks, Roger On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:23 PM, rwf ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: Can anyone help? 122200 Bordeaux Rd Littlerock (Little Rock?) WA 98556 Need to find ASAP. Thanks Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Centurylink bandwidth
I'm thinking of multi-homing with Centurylink as a second provider. Is this a pretty good performing network? I read the following link, which gave me concerns, but I'm not sure if this only effects DSL customers or wholesale customers also. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/CenturyLinks-Network-Is-Choking-112426 I have a 20Mbit DS3 circuit with ACC Business. Bandwidth is maxing out way too much. They want too much money to upgrade to the full DS3. I have just over a year left on the contract. Centurylink can provide a full DS3. Because IPv4 addresses about to run out, I thought it would be good to multi-home, run BGP and get our own IP space from ARIN. Any feedback on how your centurylink circuits perform would be great. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..
I keep seeing complaints from operators talking about the woes of Netflix breaking business models etc. From certain comments I've seen, many of you seem to be looking at this wrong. No-one should ever have sold unlimited data. Unlimited data pricing is like T1 or T3 pricing. You can't get unlimited broadband for $50/mo. This was destined to fail from the beginning. Anyone who couldn't see TV ever going over Internet lines was blind. And we're only seeing the early beginnings of it. There's going to be more and more HD stuff. Netflix hasn't broken anything. People's service plans were already broken. You were selling stuff you couldn't provide. You were effectively selling T1 lines for $50/mo. Bandwidth usage was always going to go up. Weather it's Netflix or something else. It was only time before your business model would fail. We have had bandwidth limits posted on our website since 2007. http://g5i.net/internet.php People are now starting to hit them. The limits are fairly high. We have about 5 or 6 people out of 300 who are hitting them each month now. We're going to start throttling to 256k when the cap is met. That way they can still do general Internet stuff, without being able to watch video. And they can call up and pay extra in 10Gb increments to get their high speed back. At the end of the day people, you are paid to provide an Internet connection. Be that to Netflix or Hulu or be that just for email. Sell something that you are able to provide. Take advantage of the situation. I'm getting more and more people signing up for my $80/mo package. That means more revenue so I can buy more bandwidth. We're trying to accommodate online video as best we can. Don't get me wrong, the sudden leap in bandwidth usage has caught me without enough bandwidth. But it hasn't broken my business model... yet. I have seen people talking about triple play. I don't think that's the way forward. I think the cell companies are eventually going to have to become dumb pipes, and sell just mobile broadband. People will use VoIP instead of voice minutes. Be a dumb pipe, and offer VoIP, also. Let people get their video content from online providers. I think this is the way forward. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hulu, etc. The way forward..
Doesn't that eat up your battery having to maintain a 3G connection in order to receive VoIP calls? Which software do you use? Thanks, Roger On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I already use VoIP on my iPhone on 3G. That way I give out that number instead of my real cell phone number. Sent from my iPhone4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Re: OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet
Someone needs to turn on STP on the email server. :) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 15:22, Nick lists-wi...@atomsplash.com wrote: Wow. That was stressful. Eh, we all make silly mistakes sometimes. Good thing electrons are cheap (WISPA gets a bulk discount). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Nexmatrix
Hi, Does anyone on here have experience using Nexmatrix telecom for billing and white label voip services? http://www.nexmatrix.com/WISP-telco.html I had a phone call from them a while back and it looks tempting. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't connect. What am I doing wrong? I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE. I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE. I'm using 10Mhz channels. I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate. I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP. Can anyone think what I'm missing? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
Trying to transition. We have been adding airmax sectors to the towers, changing out StarOS clients for airmax ones, then taking down the StarOS sectors when everyone is upgraded... Then we've been using the StarOS clients on the legacy network which is not upgraded yet. Would be nice if we didn't have to rob Peter to pay Paul, and we could deploy ONLY airmax clients everywhere. I tried version 1.4.22 on the AP and the NSM2 appears to work OK with that. But I have had problems using 1.4.22 since it seems more susceptible to noise. So it sounds like I'm going to have to continue with the original plan. Thanks, Roger On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: ... Sorry for short answer there is more info if you search the UBNT Forums. short / quick:- Don't use Airmax (Airmax off) Setup for 20mhz channels.. (other channel sizes may not be compatible). There is a bunch of ifs' and but's here.. the big question is what is it you are trying to do ? Transition ? or trying to make them all work together ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 2/8/2011 11:13 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't connect. What am I doing wrong? I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE. I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE. I'm using 10Mhz channels. I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate. I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP. Can anyone think what I'm missing? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NSM2 StarOS
Atheros, compex or CM9 cards. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:58 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Whats the StarOS running on? What type of cards? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Calea Compliance
Would I cover myself for calea by having a mikrotik router on the shelf, set up as a bridge, with the calea module installed. Then if I get subpoenaed for a tap, I just run out to the appropriate tower and put it on the ethernet interface of whichever AP the subscriber is on? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Calea Compliance
Ok, but the FBI wouldn't know I stuck the hardware there at the last minute. And the tower glitches off whenever I do a firmware upgrade anyway. The customer wouldn't know the difference. On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Depends who you ask. Some might say the customer could notice a change in network and hence non compliant. On Mar 5, 2011 10:43 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Would I cover myself for calea by having a mikrotik router on the shelf, set up as a bridge, with the calea module installed. Then if I get subpoenaed for a tap, I just run out to the appropriate tower and put it on the ethernet interface of whichever AP the subscriber is on? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Eltek-Valere Contact?
I used Diversitec for my valere setup... vsw...@diversitec.com On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone have a contact for a Eltek Valere Disti or Sales guy? ** ** Needing 24 rectifier systems ** ** Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Webpage proof read.
Hi guys, I'm considering adding this page to our website. http://www.g5i.net/whyg5.php I wouldn't mind a proof read or two if any of you have time. Any corrections or input, grammatical or otherwise appreciated. Feel like the points should be in a different order? More graphics to be added. I'll probably add a pic or two of ubnt gear. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webpage proof read.
I also thought I'd make a page about why customers should secure their router, too... but that's to follow, perhaps in a day or two. On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I'm considering adding this page to our website. http://www.g5i.net/whyg5.php I wouldn't mind a proof read or two if any of you have time. Any corrections or input, grammatical or otherwise appreciated. Feel like the points should be in a different order? More graphics to be added. I'll probably add a pic or two of ubnt gear. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Webpage proof read.
Oh yes, I never would have spotted that, since I am British. Thanks! I'll update it. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: In the paragraph about advertising, I would spell out advertise, seems more professional and Webster says advert is British.. On 1/5/2012 10:11 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Hi guys, I'm considering adding this page to our website. http://www.g5i.net/whyg5.php I wouldn't mind a proof read or two if any of you have time. Any corrections or input, grammatical or otherwise appreciated. Feel like the points should be in a different order? More graphics to be added. I'll probably add a pic or two of ubnt gear. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4724 - Release Date: 01/05/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP
Two months ago, we received a /21 direct allocation of IPv4 addresses from ARIN. We have two geographically diverse upstream providers. One is ATT. The other is Windstream. The Windstream circuit is considerably cheaper per meg, than the ATT circuit. We are wanting to do away with ATT. After receiving the IP allocation, we added it to our BGP configs, and contacted ATT and Windstream to have the block advertised out to the Internet. ATT got it dealt with within a few days and traffic to those IPs started flowing in. Windstream we have been fighting with for two+ months to get it done. It's costing us thousands of dollars per month, since we can't do away with the ATT circuit until Windstream bring traffic in via their circuit to these IPs. Windstream say they are awaiting on ATT in order to be able to advertise them. Can anyone explain to me why this could be the case? What does ATT have to do with weather I can advertise an IP block via windstream or not? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi
Fiber to the AP? Why not just do an 802.11ac gigabit backhaul link to the AP with the new Ubiquiti revolutionary radio? :) On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber to the AP is a great idea and the only way we will be able to meet customer demand. Within 1 year I don't think I'll have any towers that are more than 1 hop from fiber, with many directly on fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/26/2012 10:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote: Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now this latest play into Wifi by otherwise generally licensed zealots of the mobile world: The large mobile carrier equipment companies will supply Wifi solutions to the national players who will then build Wifi micro-cell infrastructure out using this commodity priced platform. Then these same equipment makers will develop a New and Improved line of pico-base LTE boxes at a better margin than the Wifi-only APs but much less than their LTE macro-base equivalents. Cellcos, cablecos, etc. will then replace their Wifi-only micro-cell APs with dual mode Wifi and LTE pico-bases to enable the benefits of Wifi and cellular both while removing the disadvantages from either platform for their needs. I believe that this move will enable the melding of fixed and mobile wireless broadband enabling WISPs to finally get into this dual game. Those best positioned to take advantage of this will be fiber to the home operators who are also WISPs who will then build out Fiber to the Access Point and deliver the Last 1000 feet wirelessly to their customers. With an infrastructure model like this ISPs can deliver the capacity needed for customers to supply voice, video and data while eliminating one of the terribly expensive parts of the FTTH platform invoking the drops to the homes. I predict we'll see all this come to pass by 2017-18. We'll see how clear my crystal ball is in a few years. I hope you guys will remember this then and be sure to pull it up and make fun of me for being so far offor not! :-) John Scrivner On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Jack Ungerjun...@ask-wi.com wrote: In a sure sign that the cellular industry is getting serious about Wi-Fi, telecom networking giant Ericsson is buying BelAir Networks, adding its high-performance outdoor hotspot technology to its portfolio, sources told GigaOM. The deal could signal a big shift in the mindset of the big wireless vendors, which have always favored their own specialized and expensive cellular technologies to meet growing mobile data demand rather than more generic but much cheaper Wi-Fi tech... http://gigaom.com/broadband/ericsson-pursuing-wi-fi-with-belair-networks-buy/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author (2003) - Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Serving the WISP Community since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP
This is the way it looked to me, too. I just asked the guy at Windstream who is dealing with it. He said... Windstream has two Tier 1 providers, Level 3 and AT T . This allows us to have two separate drains to the internet backbone. These two providers have two separate processes for setting up the BGP sessions. The level 3 has been completed and we are still waiting on the AT T piece to be completed. That just seems really odd to me. Surely they peer with dozens of big providers? Do I know nothing about the way BGP works? (which is quite possible). http://bgp.he.net/AS7029#_graph4 Also, we have an ATT circuit, running BGP. Surely anything going to ATT's AS# would come in via our ATT circuit anyway. So how does Windstream advertising our block out via ATT help bring traffic in via our Windstream circuit? And by the way, our old IP blocks which were handed to us by ATT, are working fine and the majority of traffic is coming in via windstream to those. So whatever they are doing apparently works. Just seems really strange. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Andrew W. Smith andrew.sm...@corp.airmail.net wrote: This should have nothing to do with ATT. It sounds like Windstream has incorrectly assumed that you are trying to announce something owned/controlled by ATT, or did you also ask them to allow your ATT /24s through as well? If so, you might be able to get them to allow the ARIN /21 before processing the ATT /24s. Perhaps forwarding them the results of an ARIN whois showing you fully in control of that prefix could help? Sorry I couldn't help more than confirming that it doesn't appear that you've set anything up incorrectly with ATT. On 1/26/2012 9:00 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Two months ago, we received a /21 direct allocation of IPv4 addresses from ARIN. We have two geographically diverse upstream providers. One is ATT. The other is Windstream. The Windstream circuit is considerably cheaper per meg, than the ATT circuit. We are wanting to do away with ATT. After receiving the IP allocation, we added it to our BGP configs, and contacted ATT and Windstream to have the block advertised out to the Internet. ATT got it dealt with within a few days and traffic to those IPs started flowing in. Windstream we have been fighting with for two+ months to get it done. It's costing us thousands of dollars per month, since we can't do away with the ATT circuit until Windstream bring traffic in via their circuit to these IPs. Windstream say they are awaiting on ATT in order to be able to advertise them. Can anyone explain to me why this could be the case? What does ATT have to do with weather I can advertise an IP block via windstream or not? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP
This is what stops me from advertising blocks which I don't own. So if I became an ISP for a multi-homed business, and they had their own IPs, I'd have to contact both of my upstreams, Windstream and ATT in order to have them route traffic in to this customer. I think I get that part. But we already have an ATT circuit. ATT are already advertising ALL of our IPs. Surely anything that they advertise is reachable through them is going to come in our ATT circuit? What I don't understand is how does Windstream advertising our IPs to ATT help traffic to come in through Windstream? Surely any traffic that gets to ATT's AS# will come in via our ATT circuit? Since I'm shutting off the ATT circuit anyway, and since these blocks are apparently being advertised now via Level 3, they should be reachable if I stop the BGP advertisements via ATT, right? So perhaps there's no need for me to wait, and I should stop advertising them via BGP to ATT, and go ahead and start re-numbering to the new IPs? On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: If they are following proper protocols you have to tell your upstream what netblocks you are going to advertise to them, they verify this and write route-maps/filters to allow this through. They then contact their upstream and tell them the same thing. Repeat this up the chain. It's one of the very few protections BGP has. Justin -Original Message- From: Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com Reply-To: ro...@g5i.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:56:34 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advertising ARIN IPs via BGP This is the way it looked to me, too. I just asked the guy at Windstream who is dealing with it. He said... Windstream has two Tier 1 providers, Level 3 and AT T . This allows us to have two separate drains to the internet backbone. These two providers have two separate processes for setting up the BGP sessions. The level 3 has been completed and we are still waiting on the AT T piece to be completed. That just seems really odd to me. Surely they peer with dozens of big providers? Do I know nothing about the way BGP works? (which is quite possible). http://bgp.he.net/AS7029#_graph4 Also, we have an ATT circuit, running BGP. Surely anything going to ATT's AS# would come in via our ATT circuit anyway. So how does Windstream advertising our block out via ATT help bring traffic in via our Windstream circuit? And by the way, our old IP blocks which were handed to us by ATT, are working fine and the majority of traffic is coming in via windstream to those. So whatever they are doing apparently works. Just seems really strange. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Andrew W. Smith andrew.sm...@corp.airmail.net wrote: This should have nothing to do with ATT. It sounds like Windstream has incorrectly assumed that you are trying to announce something owned/controlled by ATT, or did you also ask them to allow your ATT /24s through as well? If so, you might be able to get them to allow the ARIN /21 before processing the ATT /24s. Perhaps forwarding them the results of an ARIN whois showing you fully in control of that prefix could help? Sorry I couldn't help more than confirming that it doesn't appear that you've set anything up incorrectly with ATT. On 1/26/2012 9:00 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Two months ago, we received a /21 direct allocation of IPv4 addresses from ARIN. We have two geographically diverse upstream providers. One is ATT. The other is Windstream. The Windstream circuit is considerably cheaper per meg, than the ATT circuit. We are wanting to do away with ATT. After receiving the IP allocation, we added it to our BGP configs, and contacted ATT and Windstream to have the block advertised out to the Internet. ATT got it dealt with within a few days and traffic to those IPs started flowing in. Windstream we have been fighting with for two+ months to get it done. It's costing us thousands of dollars per month, since we can't do away with the ATT circuit until Windstream bring traffic in via their circuit to these IPs. Windstream say they are awaiting on ATT in order to be able to advertise them. Can anyone explain to me why this could be the case? What does ATT have to do with weather I can advertise an IP block via windstream or not? Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
[WISPA] Customer Forums
Do any of you wireless operators out there provide a forum on your website for your users? How has your experience with this been? Does it help with getting the word out to everyone that you are awesome, or do the few problems take over and make you look bad? Recommended, or not? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Forums
Dude, some of the models on your website are almost as hot as my wife. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Paul Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote: Our support forum is only accessible to our customers so it doesn't draw or deter potential customers. Most of the users that post there use it as an alternative to picking up the phone and calling our support group. Some users use it to lash out when they're upset. I always feel it's better to give them a non-global place to vent. They're going to vent somewhere. I'd rather have it be where only or existing customers can see it rather than on a global forum like broadbandreports.com Our experience has been good On 2/23/2012 3:21 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Do any of you wireless operators out there provide a forum on your website for your users? How has your experience with this been? Does it help with getting the word out to everyone that you are awesome, or do the few problems take over and make you look bad? Recommended, or not? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Forums
Thanks. Some good points there. Really I want to announce one to many and get feedback, good and bad. And I get less feedback if it's just the people who want to write back to me personally, as opposed to posting to a forum. I'd agree that forum could be very bad during outages. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net wrote: From a former manager: http://chuck.goolsbee.org/archives/636 ryan On 2/23/2012 1:21 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Do any of you wireless operators out there provide a forum on your website for your users? How has your experience with this been? Does it help with getting the word out to everyone that you are awesome, or do the few problems take over and make you look bad? Recommended, or not? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Linux guy
If you're still looking for help, this guy should be able to sort you out... wolson AT gmail DOT com He helps us out quite often. Thanks, Roger G5 Internet, LLC On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Looking for a linux guy for a quick mod to our mail server. Server is running vpopmail and qmail under the qmailrocks setup. I just want it to stop sending bounce messages back to spammers who send mail to nonexistent addresses in my domains from faked addresses. The bounces go to people who had nothing to do with the spam and tend to annoy them... I'd be happy if it just silently dropped all messages to bad addresses... or maybe just held the spammers connection open for a bit and then dropped it. To slow up the spammer I've used my MT to block too many simultaneous SMTP connections to any one IP address at one time. This has made a major drop in incoming spam, and reduced outgoing as well. But the lists time out after a while and then the spam starts again. -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DMCA infringent notices...
Happened to me twice this week. I guess they are getting busy. I pass them on to the customer, advise to secure their router if it's not already, because it might be their neighbor doing it. Recommend to not run bittorrent with uploading mode. Tell them I intend to ignore this notice, but I don't know what their next course of action will be. Thanks, Roger On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: We pass them on. On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Got my first DMCA infringement notice today (yay! Not...) Curious to hear what other action WISPs have taken with their customers when these notices come down. Do you simply pass the notice to the customer and have them correspond with the accuser or does the WISP act as an intermediary between rhe accuser and the WISP customer? Thanks in advance! -mike Sent from my iPhone ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Portable Alternators?
Alternatively, run your equipment on DC from an Iota DLS charger, which is constantly trickle charging some batteries. When the power goes out, it will run a lot longer because you're not converting (like a UPS) from DC coming out of your batteries to AC and then converting from AC back to DC again in a POE to power the radio. Just use DC to DC converters to get the different DC voltages you need to run your various equipment. Plug your generator into the Iota charger to power it. I bet you'll get clean DC out of it. Especially if a battery is plugged in, which I think will help smooth out the DC current. I haven't tested it, but we're using DC everywhere. Just don't have to use a generator since the battery backup lasts so long. I recently had a tower with 6 radios on it, which had two deep cycle marine batteries from walmart. Someone somehow left the breaker off after working on the site. It ran for 3 days directly off the batteries before going down. We now have to monitor each the site is being fed by AC or not. Haven't got around to that yet. Maybe some mFi will help with this. Except the single port mFi doesn't have ethernet. Cheers! Roger G5 Internet, LLC On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Especially with those small, cheap 2-cycle, 800-1000W generators, a 200-400W light stabilizes it well. -- On 5/8/2013 1:27 PM, Joel Mulkey wrote: We've noticed that our cheap generators won't charge the UPSs back up without some extra load to stabilize things. To provide that load we include a 500w or 1000w halogen construction light with each generator kit. Plug the light in and the voltage stabilizes, which allows the UPS to kick back on to the line power. It also provides some nice lighting if it's at night. Joel Mulkey CIO Freewire Direct: 503-616-2557 | Support: 503-614-8282http://www.gofreewire.comhttp://twitter.com/FreewireNetwork On May 8, 2013, at 10:17 AM, wireless-requ...@wispa.org wrote: This is the third time in about two years that we've had some major power outages across our region due to the supplier lines going down. Every time the situation is the same, We roll out our portable generators to a few of our smaller sites that don't have full-time generators -- and every time we have to fight with them to get clean power out of them -- usually just ending up putting equipment directly on the generators and bypassing the UPS systems. I've seen the generators go everywhere from 40Hz to 90Hz. Has anyone come across a nice portable alternator (as opposed to a generator) that can be taken to tower sites as supplementary power? ~ Matt ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] ATT Contact
Does anyone have a contact for wholesale sales within ATT for fiber circuits? Looking on http://wholesale.att.com/ I see no way to make contact with anyone. Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ATT Contact
Thank you, I have made contact! Now awaiting quote. Appreciate it Craig! On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.netwrote: DAVID D FOUTS df0...@att.com - Original Message - From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net To: ro...@g5i.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:16:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT Contact You could try calling ACC. My contact is: Patrick Fidell National Account Executive/Team Lead Office: 310-697-0287 - Matt On 10/14/2013 08:48 AM, Roger Howard wrote: Does anyone have a contact for wholesale sales within ATT for fiber circuits? Looking on http://wholesale.att.com/ I see no way to make contact with anyone. Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Liability Insurance
When a wireless ISP shops for general liability insurance, do you just tell the insurance agent that you are an ISP? Or should you tell them you climb towers and climb on people's roofs? I just want to make sure that in the event of a claim that we are covered. If I tell them I'm an ISP and then there is a tower incident, would they say sorry that's not covered since you didn't tell us you climb towers? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Powercode BMU NX216
I know the official answer from powercode is that in order to have a DC powered BMU, then you need to shell out $1995 for the GX266. My question is, is anyone familiar with the internals of the NX216? Can I void my warranty, take it apart, take out a AC-DC power supply, and wire it in directly to my DC plant? Like I can with say a Ubiquiti toughswitch? I don't have that many subscribers, so the GX266 is way overkill for me at the moment. Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput
Hi, I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just me, or do those test sites do that for everyone? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput
What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up. http://www.att.com/speedtest/ On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net. If Att has their own server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's on the same network On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just me, or do those test sites do that for everyone? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput
Yes, it's doing around 20-25mbps download right now, and less than 3 megs on the upload. When I'm running the test, the download speed on the router climbs to about 50mbps. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests. If you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 100 on top of that . *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Roger Howard *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM *Cc:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up. http://www.att.com/speedtest/ On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net. If Att has their own server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's on the same network On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just me, or do those test sites do that for everyone? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput
Thanks, some good points. It's an edgerouter lite. CPU stays low. It's around 3%. I was having trouble originally, when ATT had their switch port set at 100/full, and the edgerouter was too. I was only getting 1-2mbps on the upload. I finally got ATT to switch their port to auto negotiate. Now it's communicating at a gigabit and upload speeds are much better. However, it seems like something is still not quite right. Even when it was at 100/full I could plug in my laptop directly at 100/full and get good speeds. But going through the edgerouter was poor. I need to try plugging in directly again now that the switch port is on auto negotiate. I think I'm going to have to go down there during the night and plug in directly and do some testing. Figure out if it's the edgerouter that is the problem or the fiber link itself. Thanks, Roger On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: How is your CPU on your router? 65 mbps sounds low for sure. If you are on a 100 Mbps circuit have you ever plugged a PC in directly and made sure you are getting the speed. With 100 M setup 92 is about the Max but you have a long way to get to there. What type of router? Things to look at: Router CPU Load (while running test) Queues setup wrong Poor cable between upstream and router. Wrong Handshaking from upstream. *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Roger Howard *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:18 PM *Cc:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput Yes, it's doing around 20-25mbps download right now, and less than 3 megs on the upload. When I'm running the test, the download speed on the router climbs to about 50mbps. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests. If you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 100 on top of that . *Steve Barnes* General Manager PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Roger Howard *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM *Cc:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ATT MIS Throughput What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up. http://www.att.com/speedtest/ On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net. If Att has their own server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's on the same network On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously to an ATT test server. But single stream speed tests like speedtest.net and speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just me, or do those test sites do that for everyone? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] IP managment software
I'm looking for some recommendations for software to help manage our IP addresses. We're currently using BIND on linux, with webmin control panel, and we're using ipplan software to keep a record of what IPs are where. This way, it's a pain setting up all the reverse DNS manually, so we mostly just don't bother. We're close to needing to request more IPs from ARIN, which requires much better documentation than just that we have a /27 on this AP and a /28 on this ap. It also requires the utilization of each block. Is there anything out there better than IP Plan, preferably that can tie in with BIND to provide reverse DNS, and output in a manner that ARIN will like? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test
I just loaded that one a few times and managed to get 217Mbps on a 100Mbit fiber *217739.688 Kbps* On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you describe... www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php -- On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote: Good Morning Folks! Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of it. Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower to their equipment at their home or business. Hopefully this makes sense Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test
I think I like that.. . Might put it on my website. Hahaha. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com wrote: I just loaded that one a few times and managed to get 217Mbps on a 100Mbit fiber *217739.688 Kbps* On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you describe... www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php -- On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote: Good Morning Folks! Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of it. Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower to their equipment at their home or business. Hopefully this makes sense Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Guy Wire Calculator
Assuming the tower is vertical and the ground is flat, they are two sides of a triangle and the guy wire is the hypotenuse. So the calculation you are looking for is the pythagoras theorem. A squared, plus B squared = C squared. Here's an explanation... http://www.wikihow.com/Find-the-Length-of-the-Hypotenuse You probably need a guy wire about every 25 feet vertically, but I'd look up the rohn docs to be sure. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Eagle One Wireless e...@e1w.com wrote: We are putting up a 120 ft rohn 25 tower. First tower we have actually put up in a few years. Anyone have a calculator to help me figure up how much guy wire to order? And maybe how many sets i need? Thanks, Kevin Melson Eagle One Wireless 1505 Hwy 72 E Corinth, MS 38834 662-287-1722 e...@e1w.com *www.e1w.com http://www.e1w.com* ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Guy Wire Calculator
Right, or how much you gain by using big grips, turnbuckles, guy wire brackets and guy posts. It just gets you in the ballpark basically. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Of course that doesn't take into consideration how much slack you need prior to tensioning the guy wires. On 03/17/2014 09:44 PM, Roger Howard wrote: Assuming the tower is vertical and the ground is flat, they are two sides of a triangle and the guy wire is the hypotenuse. So the calculation you are looking for is the pythagoras theorem. A squared, plus B squared = C squared. Here's an explanation... http://www.wikihow.com/Find-the-Length-of-the-Hypotenuse You probably need a guy wire about every 25 feet vertically, but I'd look up the rohn docs to be sure. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Eagle One Wireless e...@e1w.com wrote: We are putting up a 120 ft rohn 25 tower. First tower we have actually put up in a few years. Anyone have a calculator to help me figure up how much guy wire to order? And maybe how many sets i need? Thanks, Kevin Melson Eagle One Wireless 1505 Hwy 72 E Corinth, MS 38834 662-287-1722 e...@e1w.com *www.e1w.com http://www.e1w.com* ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] VoIP reselling.
So I've been using Vitelity for a while in the office here, with freeswitch, and it works great. I was considering reselling the vitelity service to my customers, the only thing that has held me back is the legal requirements. I thought I had to collect USF fees, register with the FCC, pay it to them. Maybe sales tax. etc. I was at wispamerica yesterday and talked to a fellow at the Vitelity booth. He told me that they collect the USF, so we don't have to, the e-911 is optional, all I have to do is sign up as a reseller to get better pricing and charge what I like to the customers. Is this correct? I've learned to never trust a salesman. Something doesn't sound right, surely it can't be that easy? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] VoIP reselling.
So if I'm de minimis, do I have to register anything with the FCC? or just ignore it and let Vitelity pay until I get big? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote: On 3/26/2014 12:53 PM, Randy Cosby wrote: Doesn't sound right to me, unless they are going to do all the billing and tax filing in your behalf. If they charge you USF on your wholesale rate, who pays on the difference between your wholesale rate and the customer's marked up rate? USF rules are pretty strict. If a USF-subject class of carrier has interstate telecommunications revenues (not Internet per se) that would subject it to USF payments of $10k/year, then it is de minimis and does not pay. BUT then its suppliers treat it as retail and they pay on the services supplied to the de minimis carrier. Once the carrier crosses out of de minimis, it suppliers must verify that it is paying USF, and then should not charge it USF on their wholesale sales. So it's paid once, only once, by the last non-de mimimis carrier en route to the retail customer. (Disclaimer: IANAL and that's just my understanding.) E911 is a state requirement. Interconnected VoIP services have to do it, but the state sets the price. On 3/26/2014 10:51 AM, Roger Howard wrote: So I've been using Vitelity for a while in the office here, with freeswitch, and it works great. I was considering reselling the vitelity service to my customers, the only thing that has held me back is the legal requirements. I thought I had to collect USF fees, register with the FCC, pay it to them. Maybe sales tax. etc. I was at wispamerica yesterday and talked to a fellow at the Vitelity booth. He told me that they collect the USF, so we don't have to, the e-911 is optional, all I have to do is sign up as a reseller to get better pricing and charge what I like to the customers. Is this correct? I've learned to never trust a salesman. Something doesn't sound right, surely it can't be that easy? Thanks, Roger ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc435-674-0165 x 2010 --- This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Charger
Which 12v DC chargers do you guys use to power small rooftop repeaters from? I've been using iota dls chargers, but 12v at 15 amps is as small as they go. It'd be nice if they were physically smaller to save room in the cabinet, too. Cheers, Roger G5 Internet, LLC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Relay agreement
+1.. we're starting to expand again and looking for the same thing. About to go on a new rooftop in a couple weeks. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I need an agreement that covers my using a clients roof to relay wifi to other clients. Anyone have one they would share? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth brokers
Looking for bandwidth? Have you looked at these guys? http://ifnetwork.biz/ On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Does anyone have some contacts? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Download of Copyrighted Material - What do you do?
We should all report them as spammers to the blacklists :) On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: We simply forward them to the customer. We wrote an in-house application to assist with managing these notices. It automatically downloads the messages, correlates the IP to a customer, and forwards the emails to the customer through our ticketing system. It comes in handy when we receive 200+ DMCA infringement notices in a single day. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 14, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Russ Van Vlack rvanvl...@freedomnet.com wrote: WISPA Colleagues, We are fighting the neverending battle of dealing with the IP-Echelon notices of copyright infringement and need a more firm policy in place. Our acceptable use policy and account terms and conditions clearly state that these actions are illegal and/or against company policy, however we do not have a firm course of action in place in dealing with customers in violation. Would anyone be willing to share what their company policy is in regards to these notices? Especially, if you do anything further than passing the notice on to the customer? Thanks. --Russell Van Vlack ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software
Powercode isn't organic It's grown with the use of NOS, Redbull, Monster etc. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Grown without the use of artificial pesticides? :) -- *From*: Brian Wilson br...@wildsong.biz *Sent*: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:37 PM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software Our current billing system is home grown. Completely organic. On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: As do most of the other billing systems that are WISPA members. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
