Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam CAT Config/Cert Renewal with New Root
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Papercut Mobility-print and Enterprise mDNS
We've had it running since it was released. We don't use mDNS however. The DNS config was not quite working for the few weeks of its life, but this was straightened out quickly and has been solid since. We run BIND on our name servers with a zone that forwards the discovery requests to our mobility print server. This works on all networks, wired and wireless. Personally I have never had much luck with enterprise mDNS (I'm looking at you AirGroup). ajs On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:04 PM Michael Davis wrote: > We are an Aruba shop, but I'm curious about any campus WiFi deployments > using > Papercut Mobility-print. > > We've recently started looking at the mobility-print feature of > Papercut. We have it > working in some small and testing deployments, but we're having > difficulty getting > Android and Windows clients (using the papercut app) to see the Papercut > server. > Those same clients can see other mDNS printers on the wireless network, > but not > the Papercut server. > > If anyone has it working with Android/Windows and maybe added any > service types > to make it happen, I'd love to hear from you. > > https://www.papercut.com/products/free-software/mobility-print/ > > thanks > mike > > ** > Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire > community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the > message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. > Additional participation and subscription information can be found at > https://www.educause.edu/community > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Pod-style Residence Halls
Hi Chintin, For our pod-style res halls, we have two network drops per room. We use Aruba hospitality APs and we place them every other room and in the common room. So if you are in a room with an AP, you still have 2 network drops (pretty much only used by gaming rigs at this point). ajs On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 10:46 AM Chintan Patel wrote: > Morning, > > We are in process of building new residence halls (3 buildings) with > Pod-style rooms. Pod-style concept is new to us and I wanted some feedback > from anyone who currently has these living spaces. I will be leading the > Network and Wireless planning for the residence halls. > > Below are couple of my questions: > > 1. In Pod-style rooms - are you providing hard-wired data? > 2. Wireless planning - any issues and/or challenges in wireless coverage? > We currently use Aruba. Are you using "H" style hospitality WAPs? > > If you have any additional feedback and/or are willing to share the good, > bad.. etc - please send me an email. > > Thanks, > > Chintan Patel > Network/Systems Team > Colorado State University - Housing and Dining Services > Ph:970-491-1041 > > > > ** > Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire > community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the > message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. > Additional participation and subscription information can be found at > https://www.educause.edu/community > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Replies to EDUCAUSE Community Group emails are sent to the entire community list. If you want to reply only to the person who sent the message, copy and paste their email address and forward the email reply. Additional participation and subscription information can be found at https://www.educause.edu/community
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam CAT Tool questioin
I would check the connection properties that get set up (by the CAT) and verify they are correct. This sounds similar to an issue we see with Windows 10 clients connecting to older PPTP VPNs, where we have to explicitly pick the EAP type to be used. ajs On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:05 PM Schwartz, Roger J <rschw...@uthsc.edu> wrote: > Tony, > > > > We cannot authenticate, getting the following error: Login incorrect > (eap: No mutually acceptable types found): [uthsc.edu\rschw...@uthsc.edu/ Auth-Type = eap>] or a varation of this when we try other auth methods. I > am pretty sure it has to do with the Supported EAP types for the profile. > > > > Thanks > > Roger > > > > > > *From: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Tony Skalski < > 0057dcfe0332-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> > *Reply-To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Date: *Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 2:57 PM > *To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam CAT Tool questioin > > > > Yep. We have onboarded a bunch. What are you seeing? > > > > There is also: https://lists.geant.org/sympa/info/cat-users > > > > ajs > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:55 PM Schwartz, Roger J <rschw...@uthsc.edu> > wrote: > > Has anyone used the eduroam CAT tool to create the onboarding for Windows > 10 users? We are stuck getting a Windows 10 configuration to work with the > CAT Tool. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Roger > > > > > *___* > > *Roger Schwartz *|Senior Wireless Network Technician*| **Information > Technology Services* > > *UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER* > > 877 Madison Ave., Suite 738 | Memphis, TN 38163 > > ( 901.448.2236 | 7 901.448.8199 |*: rschw...@uthsc.edu > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > > > > -- > > *Tony Skalski* > > System Administrator | IT > > *Office: *507-786-3227 > > 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 > > stolaf.edu > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam CAT Tool questioin
Yep. We have onboarded a bunch. What are you seeing? There is also: https://lists.geant.org/sympa/info/cat-users ajs On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 2:55 PM Schwartz, Roger J <rschw...@uthsc.edu> wrote: > Has anyone used the eduroam CAT tool to create the onboarding for Windows > 10 users? We are stuck getting a Windows 10 configuration to work with the > CAT Tool. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Roger > > > > > *___* > > *Roger Schwartz *|Senior Wireless Network Technician*| **Information > Technology Services* > > *UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER* > > 877 Madison Ave., Suite 738 | Memphis, TN 38163 > > ( 901.448.2236 | 7 901.448.8199 |*: rschw...@uthsc.edu > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <javascript:void(0);> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba 8.0
Hi Chad, We made the move a few months back, running on new controllers in parallel with our 6.x infrastructure. We are still running in parallel, with some buildings with older APs on the older 6.x code and controllers. This worked well for us, and having gone through it, would recommend it. I have no experience with their upgrade process We started fresh, pretty much mirroring our 6.x config on the new controllers. IIRC, we wiped and re-started from the beginning at least 2-3 times as we went. The new managed device structure takes some getting used to, and you'll need to make sure you know how to look at the received config at the controller level. There were a few things that seemed to either work in the CLI and not in the UI, or vice versa, but we never found anything we couldn't work around. We have a few cases open on minor issues, and one AP reboot issue. It is still a fairly new code base. I would engage your local SE and get their assistance. Once we had a basic config working, ours came down to review it. ajs On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Chad Patterson <cpatter...@fsu.edu> wrote: > We are planning to move to the Aruba 8.0 controller architecture/code at > some point in the future and We’d like to know how it was for those of you > who have made the move. Was it painful? Any unexpected issues? Any > information or experience you can provide would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks all! > > > > Chad Patterson > > Network Administrator > > ITS-Wireless > > Florida State University > > (850) 645-3402 > > cpatter...@fsu.edu > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Sudden driver problems with Intel cards and 802.11k
We had a few issues with 7260 and disabling "Advertise Quiet IE" fixed it for us too. (Also an aruba shop.) ajs On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Kees Pronk <cl.pr...@avans.nl> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > You might try and disable " Advertise Quiet IE “ Intel drivers have been > found to not cope well when this is enabled. The STA would not to quiet but > go silent forever…. > > Indeed Advertise Quiet IE is a part of 802.11k. > > -Kees > > On 19 Feb 2018, at 14:47, Voelker, Andy <anvoel...@davidson.edu> wrote: > > Two weeks ago we inexplicably had several models of laptop completely cut > off from our wireless network. On many when they went to look for > available SSID’s the driver would either crash or all networks would > disappear. On others they just wouldn’t connect to any of our networks, > even the open guest network. All work ok off campus. We finally tracked > it down to two intel chips: > > Intel AC 7260 > Intel Centrino R Ultimate-N 6300 > > I discovered that the problem disappeared when I disabled 802.11k. We’re > an Aruba shop. We haven’t done any updates or major changes to our network > since October. Those models couldn’t have all received a bad driver at the > same time. I think we were able to find a driver that fixed the Intel AC > 7260, but they stopped making updates to the Centrino. > > Has anyone else seen this suddenly? Next I’m going to try to tweak some > settings in 802.11k to see if I can re-enable it without the offending > setting. > > -Andy Voelker > Network Administrator > Davidson College > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > > Netwerkbeheer > > Avans Hogeschool > Diensteenheid ICT en Facilitaire Dienst (DIF) - ICT-Beheer > > Bezoekadres: > Bijster 7 <https://maps.google.com/?q=Bijster+7=gmail=g>-21 > 4817 HZ Breda > Postadres: > Postbus 90.116 > 4800 RA Breda > > > E: cl.pr...@avans.nl > P: +31(0)885258054 <+31%2088%20525%208054> > T: @rovinguser > > Disclaimer ( http://www.avans.nl/over-avans/e-mail-disclaimer ) > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Printing to a wired printer from wireless
Another +1 for PaperCut MF. We rolled out Mobility Print and configuring printers on student devices has never been easier. ajs On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Glinsky, Eric <eric.glin...@uconn.edu> wrote: > We used PaperCut MF in my previous workplace as well and we were satisfied > with it. When we first implemented (summer 2016), we also used Presto to > handle the DNS. I'm a bit fuzzy on the details at this point but that was > flakey (biggest issue being print jobs not getting cleared from the Presto > queue after being passed on to PaperCut and filling up the server's disk), > so as soon as PaperCut released their own solution (Project Banksia), we > implemented it and it proved much more reliable. I believe it's built in to > newer PaperCut releases. As I recall, mDNS did still need to be enabled on > the WLC. > > We had PaperCut set to advertise a single printer, then the user logged in > to the nearest printer/copier to release the job. > > -Original Message- > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:18 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Printing to a wired printer from wireless > > Max, > > I will add that to our list of things to test! Looking at their website, > it appears that it can use DNS (and not just mDNS). If so, that would solve > one of key issues I foresee. > > Thank you, > Christina > > - Original Message - > From: "Max McGrath" <mmcgr...@carthage.edu> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:03:55 PM > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Printing to a wired printer from wireless > > We use Papercut MF at Carthage. > > Max > > -- > Max McGrath <http://www.linkedin.com/in/max-mcgrath-a299124b> > Infrastructure and Security Manager > Carthage College > 262-551- > mmcgr...@carthage.edu > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Christina Klam <ck...@ias.edu> wrote: > > > All, > > > > I knew this day would come... People want to print to our network > > printers from their mobile devices. We have enable mDNS on our > > wireless network so that anyone on the wireless SSIDs can print to any > > printer on the wireless network. For us, this means people can > > register their printer on one of the SSIDs and print to it. This > > works fine in our ResNET environment. Now, people want to print to > > the enterprise wired network printers while on campus. > > > > What is everyone using to allow mobile devices printing capabilities > > to the enterprise printers or print servers? One of the schools is > > looking at PrinterLogic. Another Presto. I will be guiding everyone > > towards agreeing to a single idea, whatever that may be. > > > > Thank you for your help, > > Christina Klam > > Network Engineer > > > > ** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > ****** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Poll - Campus Open Guest Wireless
We went from self-registration to captive portal (click to accept AUP), and a year and a half ago to an open guest wifi with no captive portal and no registration. We and our customers couldn't be happier with it (and we're not worried about how much it is used). ajs On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Christopher H Ressel <cres...@unr.edu> wrote: > Hi all, > > We are actively looking at pursuing an open guest wireless solution where > all guests are required to do for access it to accept terms of use via a > captive portal (no self-registration). I was hoping to get an idea > (general head count) of how many of you are out there to give us an idea of > how prevalent this is amongst similar institutions. If you do in fact > have a similar open guest setup how has your experience been thus far? > > Chris Ressel > Network Engineer > University of Nevada, Reno > (775) 682-6034 > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > -- *Tony Skalski* System Administrator | IT *Office: *507-786-3227 <(507)786-3227> 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 stolaf.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 2.4GHz - educating end users about interference
information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > > > > > > Michael Hulko > Network Analyst > > Western University Canada > Network Operations Centre > Information Technology Services > 1393 Western Road, SSB 3300CC > London, Ontario N6G 1G9 > > tel: 519-661-2111 x82433 <(519)%20661-2111> > > direct: 519-850-2433 <(519)%20850-2433> > e-mail: mihu...@uwo.ca > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > discuss. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID names
>how do you stop roaming mobile devices from sucking up all your dhcp
addresses?
Devices always get the same IP address (until we change the VLAN
assignments for the AP group (i.e. vap profile in Aruba-speak)). Granted,
Aruba's VALN-assignment hashing algorithm is not perfect and once in a
while one of the /24s assigned to the guest SSID exceeds 80% used (our
alerting threshold), but that has only happened a few times since school
started in September. I do have in my back pocket a plan to flatten these
/24s into one larger network if need be, given that Aruba has sufficient
controls to deal with {broad,multi}cast traffic.
ajs
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) <
bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:
> With the captive portal removed, how do you stop roaming mobile devices
> from sucking up all your dhcp addresses? We have found that a captive
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> for college users and a 1x protected SSID for college users. There was
> considerable overlap between the open and guest SSIDs, so we collapsed them
> into one. We now have: eduroam and 'St. Olaf Guest'. We decided we were OK
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> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Adam T Ferrero <a...@temple.edu> wrote:
>
>
> These have served us pretty well. We only have a mac auth SSID in our
> residence halls. Occasionally it would be useful to have it everywhere but
> we don't currently.
>
> TUsecurewirelessWPA2 enterprise which gives different access
> levels (staff, student, guest)
> TUguestwireless Open for onboarding (SMS text credentials)
> eduroam Guest like access for anyone
>
> Adam
>
> -Original Message-
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Dickson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID names
>
> eduroam (our only 802.1x offering)
> UMASS (open, CP, primarily for guests)
> UMASS-DEVICES (MAC auth'd device support for non-802.1x capable devices,
> as allowed by policy)
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Dickson
> Network Analyst
> Information Technology
> University of Massachusetts Amherst
> 413-545-9639
> michael.dick...@umass.edu
> PGP: 0x16777D39
>
>
> On 2017-02-21 15:36, Jim Stasik wrote:
> > Hello, I have been encouraged by one of our governance bodies to
> > consider renaming our wireless SSIDs to better match the network names
> > to the function of the networks behind them. I don’t get it, but
> > maybe I am a little too close to it. We don’t have any residential on
> > our campuses so have just two primary SSIDs in use on our campus (as
> > well as eduRoam). One is named Public and is our onboarding/guest
> > network. The other is our authenticated/secure network which we call
> > MC3Waves and is for all students, staff, faculty and administrators,
> > with 802.1x on the back end to steer the end user to the appropriate
> > role. We have had these network around for as long as I can remember
> > (15 years maybe). I am curious how others are naming and separating
> > the SSIDs in their environment?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Jim Stasik
> >
> > Director of Enterprise Infrastructure Services
> >
> > Montgomery County Community College
> >
> > jsta...@mc3.edu
> >
> > 215.641.6678
> >
> > -
> >
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> > access and success.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] edroam as main 802.1x ssid
We moved to just eduroam and a guest SSID this fall. We used the eduroam CAT tools to get users onboard and those have worked well. And when a few users with new Google Pixels (Android 7.1) could not use the CAT tool, the issue was corrected within 2 days. ajs On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Hunter Fuller <hf0...@uah.edu> wrote: > We are moving in this direction. We will have eduroam and one wide-open > ESSID for connection instructions and non-dot1X devices. > > On Thursday, November 10, 2016, Becker, Jason <jbec...@wustl.edu> wrote: > >> We're getting ready to reduce the number of ssid that we have across >> Campus and one idea is to use edroam as our main 802.1x secure ssid. Is >> anyone else doing this and if so how is it going? >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> > > -- > > -- > Hunter Fuller > Network Engineer > VBRH Annex B-1 > +1 256 824 5331 > > Office of Information Technology > The University of Alabama in Huntsville > Systems and Infrastructure > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] About the Guest wireless network and account
Prior to this year, we had open guest SSID with a captive portal where users had to accept an AUP every 8 hours. This year we removed the captive portal and merged it with another SSID that was used for consoles and other devices that do not support 802.1x. The new guest SSID is open and effectively outside our firewall. ajs On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Thomas Carter <tcar...@austincollege.edu> wrote: > We use PacketFence as well; while faculty, staff, and student accounts are > tied to AD, guest accounts reside only in packetfence. What is nice for us > is accounts can have limited time frames and limited expirations to help > prevent abuse. > > > > Thomas Carter > > Network & Operations Manager > > Austin College > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Max McGrath > *Sent:* Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:09 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] About the Guest wireless network and account > > > > We use PacketFence (https://packetfence.org/) as our NAC. It has > built-in guest functionality and works fairly well. Guests can register > either via SMS or email. > > > > Max > > > -- > Max McGrath <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/max-mcgrath/1b/3a6/a21> > Network Administrator > Carthage College > 262-552-5512 > mmcgr...@carthage.edu > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Linchuan Yang <linchuan.y...@concordia.ca> > wrote: > > Dear All > > > > We are doing research for the wireless Guest network. Currently, we create > temp employee account for the Guests in our AD and using a separate captive > portal for the Guest login. For the group Guests (e.g. external event), we > allow them to share the same guest account. > > > > However, we found that it’s not easy to manage and track the temp wireless > guest accounts. Could you please share how your institute setup and manage > the wireless guest network and the accounts? > > > > Thank you, and have a good afternoon. > > > > Yours, > > Linchuan Yang (Antony) > Wireless Networking Analyst > Network Assessment and Integration, > IITS-Concordia University > Tel: (514)848-2424 ext. 7664 > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Res hall wireless printing..
Is the issue getting them onto your wireless network, or to stop them from broadcasting their own SSIDs? We try (by providing ~75 follow-me release stations around campus) to get them to use our infrastructure. We tell them not to bring printers. We see their SSIDs in the res, but to date, we haven't spent much time making them turn them off. We trust that they are low power transmitters and that they are only disruptive at short distances. If someone complains about poor performance in the area, and we can see evidence of interference, we will use it to encourage the student to turn off the wireless on their printer. We have no interest in getting them on our network. ajs On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler <j...@scrippscollege.edu > wrote: > Have you considered adding more printers in the residence halls, > mitigating any compelling need for a student to have their own printer? > There are a number of solutions out there today that provide air > print/google print (or mobile print clients), making it even simpler. > > > > Basically, you’ll likely spend less to provide more/better > college-provided printing then to engineer a solution for the personal > printers. > > > > Jeff > > > > *From: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV. > EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Brian Helman <bhel...@salemstate.edu> > *Reply-To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV. > EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Date: *Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 9:08 AM > *To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV. > EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] Res hall wireless printing.. > > > > Can you tell it’s the start of the new academic year?... > > > > I know we talk about this every year, but here we go again. How are > people tackling/addressing students who want to use their wireless printers > in their dorm rooms? In the past, we’ve told them they have to disable the > wireless and use a USB from their laptop. That’s not flying as well as > more and more people are more and more dependent on tablets, phablets and > phones. > > > > We haven’t thought it through, but one option is to set up a separate, > non-Internet accessible SSID for printers. We’d have to think though if it > should hit the NAC, be somehow otherwise registered, do we care about > security, contain those SSID’s to buildings (and not pass that traffic > between buildings) etc, etc. > > > > -Brian > > > > > *Brian Helman, M.Ed *|* Director, ITS/Networking Services | *(: *978.542.7272 > <978.542.7272>* > > *Salem State University, 352 Lafayette St., Salem Massachusetts 01970* > > *GPS: 42.502129, -70.894779* > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/ > groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How big are your wireless segments?
We have about 50 /24s. The Aruba controllers hash the MAC address and drop users into one of the /24s. We are at about 5,000 daily users. We have broadcasts and multicasts turned off for these wireless nets. We don't use VLAN pools. ajs On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Brian Helman <bhel...@salemstate.edu> wrote: > We are in the process of moving from a controllerless vendor to Aruba. > Our current design is very segmented, to keep wireless device broadcasts > from overwhelming the network and AP’s (we had this problem back in 11g > days). Presently, we’ve limited segments to /23’s (give or take). In your > controller-based environments, how large have you let these segments go? > Is a /21, /20 … viable? > > > > -Brian > > > > > *Brian Helman, M.Ed *|* Director, ITS/Networking Services | *(: *978.542.7272 > <978.542.7272>* > > *Salem State University, 352 Lafayette St., Salem Massachusetts 01970* > > *GPS: 42.502129, -70.894779* > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11k and 802.11r in BYOD
>This says that OS X has supported 802.11r starting with Mavericks 10.9. Ha! I even double-checked on Apple's site to see if this had changed recently. I guess they're too busy to let people know (or they don't care so much about OS X these days). ajs On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Bruce Curtis <bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu> wrote: > > > On Apr 20, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Tony Skalski <a...@stolaf.edu> wrote: > > > > > > We've had 802.11k enabled for a few years. The only issue we've had was > with some Intel wireless chipsets. To work around this we disabled the > Quiet Information Element which appears in beacons and probes as part of > 802.11k. If you search for Intel and Quiet Information Element you can find > lots more info. > > We have had 802.11k enabled for months rather than years. Had to disable > 802.11k "Assisted Roaming Prediction Optimization” on our Cisco wireless > since it appeared to cause lots of drops for clients. > > We still have 802.11k "Neighbor List Dual Band” enabled > > > > > We've never enabled 802.11r, because it is not supported by OS X. It is > supported on iOS but not sure about other OSes. > > > This says that OS X has supported 802.11r starting with Mavericks 10.9. > > > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/technotes/8-2/b_Enterprise_Best_Practices_for_Apple_Devices_on_Cisco_Wireless_LAN.pdf > > > I think the showstopper is Microsoft devices. > > "Not all Windows 10 devices support 802.11k, 802.11v, and 802.11r.” > > > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/mt484190(v=vs.85).aspx > > > > > > > > Environment: about 5,000 daily associations, close to 4,000 of which are > BYOD. > > > > ajs > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Voelker, Andy <anvoel...@davidson.edu> > wrote: > > I’m sure this question gets recycled occasionally, but I wanted to check > in on everyone’s experience with these two protocols in a very BYOD > environment. I just became a WLAN admin in August and I’m finally to the > point where I can tweak some finer details of the network. We have 1600 > residential students that bring all kinds of devices. I’m particularly > interested in 802.11k since it has been out for a while and I think device > compatibility or at least tolerance is pretty good. What about 802.11r? > > > > > > > > I appreciate your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy Voelker > > > > Network Technician/Wireless LAN Manager > > > > Davidson College > > > > > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tony Skalski > > Systems Administrator > > a...@stolaf.edu > > 507-786-3227 > > St. Olaf College > > Information Technology > > 1510 St. Olaf Avenue > > Northfield, MN55057-1097 > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > --- > Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu > Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 > North Dakota State University > > > ** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 802.11k and 802.11r in BYOD
We've had 802.11k enabled for a few years. The only issue we've had was with some Intel wireless chipsets. To work around this we disabled the Quiet Information Element which appears in beacons and probes as part of 802.11k. If you search for Intel and Quiet Information Element you can find lots more info. We've never enabled 802.11r, because it is not supported by OS X. It is supported on iOS but not sure about other OSes. Environment: about 5,000 daily associations, close to 4,000 of which are BYOD. ajs On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Voelker, Andy <anvoel...@davidson.edu> wrote: > I’m sure this question gets recycled occasionally, but I wanted to check > in on everyone’s experience with these two protocols in a very BYOD > environment. I just became a WLAN admin in August and I’m finally to the > point where I can tweak some finer details of the network. We have 1600 > residential students that bring all kinds of devices. I’m particularly > interested in 802.11k since it has been out for a while and I think device > compatibility or at least tolerance is pretty good. What about 802.11r? > > > > I appreciate your thoughts. > > > > > > Andy Voelker > > Network Technician/Wireless LAN Manager > > Davidson College > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] OT - Anyone using OpenDNS Umbrella DNS security product?
;>>>> It is a easy to setup and mange. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Mike Hanson, CISSP >>>>> Network Security Manager >>>>> The College of St. Scholastica >>>>> Duluth, MN 55811 >>>>> <mhan...@css.edu>mhan...@css.edu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Gregg Heimer < <ghei...@mc3.edu> >>>>> ghei...@mc3.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We are also investigating OpenDNS as a possible replacement for >>>>>> expensive URL filtering costs integrated into our firewall. Would also >>>>>> love to hear feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gregg Heimer >>>>>> >>>>>> Sr. Network Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> Montgomery County Community College >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>>>>> [mailto: <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >>>>>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Jeffrey D. Sessler >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 19, 2015 11:18 AM >>>>>> *To:* <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> >>>>>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>>>>> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] OT - Anyone using OpenDNS Umbrella DNS >>>>>> security product? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bit off topic, but I’m in the process of evaluating OpenDNS’ Umbrella >>>>>> DNS security product and looking for others that may have it deployed. So >>>>>> far it seems like a good addition to end-point security, but the devil is >>>>>> in the details. If anyone on the list is using it, I’d sure appreciate >>>>>> comments/feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeffrey D Sessler >>>>>> >>>>>> Director of Information Technology >>>>>> >>>>>> Scripps College >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Participation and subscription information for this >>>>>> EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>>>> <http://www.educause.edu/groups/>http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Montgomery County Community College is proud to be designated as an >>>>>> Achieving the Dream Leader College for its commitment to student access >>>>>> and >>>>>> success. >>>>>> ** Participation and subscription information for this >>>>>> EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>>>> <http://www.educause.edu/groups/>http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ** Participation and subscription information for this >>>>> EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>>> <http://www.educause.edu/groups/>http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Randy Mahurin >>>> Office of Information Technology >>>> Boise State University >>>> 1910 University Drive, Boise, ID, 83725-1249 >>>> Phone: (208) 426-4003 <%28208%29%20426-4003> >>>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>> <http://www.educause.edu/groups/>http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>> >>>> >>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Randy Mahurin >> Office of Information Technology >> Boise State University >> 1910 University Drive, Boise, ID, 83725-1249 >> Phone: (208) 426-4003 >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> <http://www.educause.edu/groups/>http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> >> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Looking for interest among Wi-Fi professionals
I would much prefer a mailing list, but would use it regardless. Ditto On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: This is not meant to self-promote, apologies if it seems that way. Looking for interest on whether those on the list would get value out of a potential new wireless-oriented discussion board, as described here: *https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/hey-wireless-professionals-would-you-use/* https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/03/18/hey-wireless-professionals-would-you-use/ Won’t hurt my feelings either way, but could be kind of valuable if you picture it widely used. Regards- Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi
... On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Thomas Carter tcar...@austincollege.edu wrote: I'm disappointed in the statement from the FCC. This was a chance to clarify their position on this, but it's still as vague as ever. What is a commercial establishment? Does that include K-12 or Higher Ed? What about a corporate HQ? I'm also disappointed that the wireless vendors have been quiet on this issue as well. Where is Cisco, Aruba, Rukus, et. al who provide us with these tools? One reading of the FCC notice is that the product they market and sell is illegal. I feel they should be leading the charge with the FCC for clarification for us, their customers. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:38 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] latest from FCC on de-authing Mi-Fi http://www.fcc.gov/document/warning-wi-fi-blocking-prohibited Which would imply that a subset of our tools are illegal: https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/01/06/are-wlan-vendors-selling-illegal-jammers/ Complicated times. -Lee ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- ---======--- Want to quickly check a system status or report a problem to the IT team? Use http://justme.westmont.edu Have a problem that requires tracking and IT email response? Use http://mayday.westmont.edu -- ---======--- Want to quickly check a system status or report a problem to the IT team? Use http://justme.westmont.edu Have a problem that requires tracking and IT email response? Use http://mayday.westmont.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal
from my Galaxy S4. Tiny keyboards=typing mistakes. Verify anything sent. -Original Message- From: Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi. A number of these users - smart, highly technical IT professionals - instead just said Nah, I'll just use my hotspot. I suspect it's a combination of two things. First, I paid for it, so I have to use it to get my money's worth. Second, I'd have to think about how to set up a new wifi, or I can just turn on my hotspot by rote memory. In both cases, the cost (or lack thereof) and quality of any host offered wifi doesn't even factor into the decision at all. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 10/3/2014 3:21 PM, Philippe Hanset wrote: Everything would be so much simpler if locations would provide Wi-Fi for free or at a reasonable price. When a technology is used by everyone (e.g. Electricity) like Wi-Fi, just include it in the cost of doing business. Stop charging users for Wi-Fi, especially when the room is already at $200+/night. People will bring their own Mi-Fi or smartphone-hotspot, and bypass the silly cost model! At Educause this week the Vendor-floor was plagued with hundreds of Mi-Fi and private Wi-Fi. The event was charging upward of $150/day for Wi-Fi to exhibitors. So, many of them had their own solutions! Humans are resourceful...and if you piss them off they will read the law and call the FCC (or they pirate your network ;-) Philippe Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.us http://www.eduroam.us On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: What do you all think of this? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/after-blocking-personal-hotspot-at-hotel-marriott-to-pay-fcc-60/ - Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. http://www.educause.edu/groups/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Tony Skalski Systems Administrator a...@stolaf.edu 507-786-3227 St. Olaf College Information Technology 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN55057-1097 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal
that the hotel was jamming mobile hotspots so you can’t use them in the convention space. Is this a distinction between them blocking in their conference facilities vs. their hotel rooms? We all know that radio signal propagation is not so clean cut, but I'm wondering if the lawyers are seeing things differently. Kitri Waterman Network Engineer (Wireless) University of Oregon On 10/3/14 2:07 PM, Thomas Carter wrote: I suspect the clause will still be valid, but we cannot use wireless countermeasures to enforce them. Telling students to turn them off, disabling wired ports, student discipline, etc are outside the FCC’s jurisdiction it seems to me. Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 [image: AusColl_Logo_Email] *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian Helman *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 3:39 PM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal I just saw this on CNN and jumped on the list to post. Using your own AP is against the AUP everyone signs at our institution. Now I wonder if that clause is invalid. -Brian Sent from my Galaxy S4. Tiny keyboards=typing mistakes. Verify anything sent. -Original Message- From: Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine features illegal I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi. A number of these users - smart, highly technical IT professionals - instead just said Nah, I'll just use my hotspot. I suspect it's a combination of two things. First, I paid for it, so I have to use it to get my money's worth. Second, I'd have to think about how to set up a new wifi, or I can just turn on my hotspot by rote memory. In both cases, the cost (or lack thereof) and quality of any host offered wifi doesn't even factor into the decision at all. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 10/3/2014 3:21 PM, Philippe Hanset wrote: Everything would be so much simpler if locations would provide Wi-Fi for free or at a reasonable price. When a technology is used by everyone (e.g. Electricity) like Wi-Fi, just include it in the cost of doing business. Stop charging users for Wi-Fi, especially when the room is already at $200+/night. People will bring their own Mi-Fi or smartphone-hotspot, and bypass the silly cost model! At Educause this week the Vendor-floor was plagued with hundreds of Mi-Fi and private Wi-Fi. The event was charging upward of $150/day for Wi-Fi to exhibitors. So, many of them had their own solutions! Humans are resourceful...and if you piss them off they will read the law and call the FCC (or they pirate your network ;-) Philippe Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.us http://www.eduroam.us On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: What do you all think of this? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/after-blocking-personal-hotspot-at-hotel-marriott-to-pay-fcc-60/ - Lee Badman ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. http://www.educause.edu/groups/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Tony Skalski Systems
